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around the campus. to me, this feels like a place we didn't need to end up- being and something that many of us did not need to go _ through last night. president biden breaks his silence about the college protests in america and a peaceful cease—fire hangs in the balance. we here tonight from a former nato weapons expert about ukraine and is there a
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rusted assault on ukrainian gas plans causing problems for european supplies with matt we get the view from kyiv. good evening. president biden has told the pro—palestinian demonstrators they have "the right to protest, but not a right to cause chaos". it was the first time the president has spoken on the campus protests amid criticism from donald trump and republicans that he has been absent from the debate. peaceful protest in america. violent protest is not protected. peaceful protest is. it's against the law when violence occurs. destroying property is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations — none of this is a peaceful protest. threatening people, intimidating people, instilling fear in people is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. dissent is essential to democracy, but dissent must never lead to disorder or to denying the rights of others so students can finish the semester
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and their college education. the truth, president biden is walking a fine line in defending the rights of free speech and condemning the violence and anti—semitism that has disrupted college life. overnight, police moved in on the encampment at ucla. by morning, it was a field of ruins — sleeping bags, tents and barricades strewn about. dozens of students had been arrested. our north america correspondent emma vardy was watching. after midnight, the first signs police had begun to execute their operation. we're not leaving! despite building a makeshift fortress around them, the protesters' barricades were overpowered. we're seeing police now going into one side of the encampment, and it looks like they're starting to tear tents down. it became clear the encampment was unlikely to last the night. hundreds of police formed a ring
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of steel, while others systematically took ground. a large number of officers are gradually making their way further in, and they're setting off a volley of flash bangs here to disrupt the crowd as they do it. the deafening police grenades continued for much of the operation. some protesters claimed officers had fired at them with rubber bullets, butjust before dawn, their task was almost complete. in a matter of hours, police have now dismantled and flattened much of this encampment, and the last remaining protesters are now being detained and taken away. it's being reported that more than 100 arrests were made. bbc news, can you give us your reaction to what has happened tonight? expected, they're cops. why did you want to be here? cos it's upsetting, it's upsetting. are you a student here? no, i go to oxy. what do you feel you've achieved with this? president biden said students have a right to protest,
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but not to break the law. the university hasn't yet commented. by morning, this is what remained of the encampment that occupied the main quad of ucla for more than a week. police operations across the us have demonstrated that encampments will not be tolerated for long. here, it has disrupted many students' exam week. it may still be some time before this campus returns to normality. emma vardy, bbc news, los angeles. tom bateman is at collin county jail in texas, where some of the protesters are being held. what is going on around you? what ou can what is going on around you? what you can see — what is going on around you? what you can see is _ what is going on around you? what you can see is that _ what is going on around you? ibd'iié’il you can see is that the protests that have been on the campus here in dallas has now shifted to hear, the countyjail. the protesters same 21 people were detained when those texas state troopers moved in armed with batons and write here yesterday. they pulled away we saw at least a dozen being dragged away
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yesterday. the authorities say the number is somewhere around 17. but we are seeing now is the way this was sort of energising the protesters. they are safe these police tactics are completely different portion it is so this anti—war protest has effectively now moved out of the jail itself. what we are seeing here every few minutes and this not be at the moment now about to happen is when those who have been jailed or about to happen is when those who have beenjailed or being released, a huge cheerfrom have beenjailed or being released, a huge cheer from the crowd goes up. that will perhaps a bit premature. but we have seen in the last hour or two around five or so people being released. they then move over to the side of some of the protesters with a huge amount of applause and cheering and these people say they will remain here until everyone who is being held has been released. they call them political prisoners. they call them political prisoners. they had been accusing the police here in texas of racism for the way they said they broke up this protest. they said they broke up this rotest. , , , ., protest. the republicans have criticised president _ protest. the republicans have criticised president biden - protest. the republicans have criticised president biden for. protest. the republicans have -
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criticised president biden for being equivocal on this issue. any answer that criticism today?— that criticism today? well, i think he had to respond _ that criticism today? well, i think he had to respond because - that criticism today? well, i think he had to respond because of - that criticism today? well, i think he had to respond because of the j he had to respond because of the pressure has become so great with the pictures that we are all seeing it all america's receiving of what is happening on college campuses. remember he is under dual pressures in a very polarised country because if you say you have the republicans accusing the protesters are basically in their view fuelling an environment of it as limited as him on college campuses, which the protesters utterly reject. it should be said the vast majority of these protests are entirely peaceful and that's what we have seen on the campus here in dallas and austin as well. on the other hand, for president biden's democratic base, many of whom oppose the way that the us is arming israel's war in gaza, he knows that those images of state troopers heavily armed with right gear coming into protests is causing him a big problem among parts of his
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base. 50 him a big problem among parts of his base. so he's trying to address it. what he did was saved people have the right of free speech but not to cause chaos, and i think there was an implicit offence of the policing of all. i don't think that will do much to appease the protesters. on the other hand it probably has not done too much either to appease the republicans who are accusing him of equivocation on this. he is call in a bind absolutely over this, but that goes to the much larger issue of the way that the only real offer politically for president biden did all of this is that much needed cease—fire deal and that is why politically he has been pursuing that but so far in vain. tam politically he has been pursuing that but so far in vain. tom bateman in dallas, thank _ that but so far in vain. tom bateman in dallas, thank you _ that but so far in vain. tom bateman in dallas, thank you very _ that but so far in vain. tom bateman in dallas, thank you very much - that but so far in vain. tom bateman in dallas, thank you very much for i in dallas, thank you very much for that. let's pick up that point then. us officials say they have made progress in outlining what governance and security plans for gaza might look like if a ceasefire could be negotiated, but still hamas has to decide whether it will accept the revised terms put forward by the israeli government. the proposal includes a 40—day truce in return for the release of hostages,
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with the prospect displaced families being would be allowed to return to northern gaza. today, hamas phoned the egyptian minister of intelligence, major general abbas kamel, to inform him they are looking at the proposal "in a positive spirit". they said their negotiating delegation would travel to egypt as soon as possible to complete the ongoing discussions. let's speak to gershon baskin, a former israeli negotiator with hamas, now director of middle east operations for the uk—based ngo international communities organisation. thank you for being with us. always good to have you on the programme. what are you picking up about the negotiations and where they stand tonight? the negotiations and where they stand toni . ht? ., . negotiations and where they stand toniaht? .. ., negotiations and where they stand toniaht? .. . . ., negotiations and where they stand toniaht? . . ., tonight? the fact that hamas has not said no is a good _ tonight? the fact that hamas has not said no is a good sign. _ tonight? the fact that hamas has not said no is a good sign. it's _ tonight? the fact that hamas has not said no is a good sign. it's a - said no is a good sign. it's a good sign _ said no is a good sign. it's a good sign that— said no is a good sign. it's a good sign that we — said no is a good sign. it's a good sign that we have had in several weeks _ sign that we have had in several weeks of— sign that we have had in several weeks of negotiations coming out, and hamas announced that they will send in _ and hamas announced that they will send in negotiating team back to cairo _ send in negotiating team back to cairo we — send in negotiating team back to cairo. we are now waiting to wait and see _ cairo. we are now waiting to wait and see if— cairo. we are now waiting to wait and see if the israeli government will also —
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and see if the israeli government will also decide to sin and negotiating team to cairo that will also be _ negotiating team to cairo that will also be a — negotiating team to cairo that will also be a good sign but i think the most _ also be a good sign but i think the most positive thing that we can say tonight is— most positive thing that we can say tonight is that the negotiations are continuing and therefore there is still reason for hope. the americans sa the still reason for hope. the americans say they have _ still reason for hope. the americans say they have made _ still reason for hope. the americans say they have made a _ still reason for hope. the americans say they have made a lot _ still reason for hope. the americans say they have made a lot of- still reason for hope. the americans | say they have made a lot of progress on the so—called day after it's an area, so that would involve normalising relations with saudi arabia and of course a step towards a two state solution. you have written a piece that i have read today saying he would be the ultimate victory over hamas and islamichhad if that could be achieved. islamicjihad if that could be achieved. . islamicjihad if that could be achieved-— islamicjihad if that could be achieved. . , . ,, achieved. can you explain? sure. hamas is a _ achieved. can you explain? sure. hamas is a political— achieved. can you explain? sure. hamas is a political islamic- hamas is a political islamic fundamentalist movement that was created _ fundamentalist movement that was created in— fundamentalist movement that was created in order to prevent any kind of peace _ created in order to prevent any kind of peace process developing between the state _ of peace process developing between the state of israel and the palestinian people. hamas has always been against a two state solution. only recently they have come out with statements in support of it, but for— with statements in support of it, but for 20 — with statements in support of it, but for 20 years now, they have been
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opposed _ but for 20 years now, they have been opposed to _ but for 20 years now, they have been opposed to the two state solution. they have — opposed to the two state solution. they have always been opposed to recognising israel. a two state solution — recognising israel. a two state solution includes the recognition of the state _ solution includes the recognition of the state of israel and of the state of palestine and it should be done now tty— of palestine and it should be done now by the entire international community. and therefore it is the ultimate _ community. and therefore it is the ultimate price for the israeli and palestinian people, but it is not what _ palestinian people, but it is not what hamas is fought for for all these _ what hamas is fought for for all these years. hamas is wanted to destroy— these years. hamas is wanted to destroy israel, and now it seems that they— destroy israel, and now it seems that they are coming around are being _ that they are coming around are being forced to come around to recognising that israel is here to stay and — recognising that israel is here to stay and they might as well get a piece of— stay and they might as well get a piece of the land of palestine because _ piece of the land of palestine because they are not going to get all of— because they are not going to get all of it _ because they are not going to get all of it. �* ., , ., , ~ all of it. but it does not seem like the prime minister _ all of it. but it does not seem like the prime minister wants - all of it. but it does not seem like the prime minister wants it - all of it. but it does not seem like | the prime minister wants it either, orfeels the the prime minister wants it either, or feels the pressure to even engage with it. do you think given the losses on both sides and the viciousness and the latest cycle of war the events moved past him? well. war the events moved past him? well, i think that when _ war the events moved past him? well, i think that when this _ war the events moved past him? well, i think that when this war _ war the events moved past him? well, i think that when this war is _ war the events moved past him? well, i think that when this war is over, whenever— i think that when this war is over, whenever it — i think that when this war is over, whenever it ends, we are going to have _ whenever it ends, we are going to have a _ whenever it ends, we are going to have a new—
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whenever it ends, we are going to have a new leadership in israel. we are going _ have a new leadership in israel. we are going to— have a new leadership in israel. we are going to go to elections in the majority_ are going to go to elections in the majority of— are going to go to elections in the majority of israelis no longer want netanyahu to rule a source of this true on _ netanyahu to rule a source of this true on the — netanyahu to rule a source of this true on the palestinian side is the curreht_ true on the palestinian side is the current leadership there is not considered legitimate by the majority of palestinian people. hamas— majority of palestinian people. hamas is— majority of palestinian people. hamas is brought tremendous disasters on the policy to people and they— disasters on the policy to people and they have to look up from this horrific— and they have to look up from this horrific situation that they are in and decide — horrific situation that they are in and decide if they want to have a future _ and decide if they want to have a future of— and decide if they want to have a future of peace and peace and stability— future of peace and peace and stability and dignity or if they want — stability and dignity or if they want to— stability and dignity or if they want to continue on a struggle in israel— want to continue on a struggle in israel and — want to continue on a struggle in israel and continue to loose. i think— israel and continue to loose. i think it's _ israel and continue to loose. i think it's time for both israelis and palestinians to begin looking forward _ and palestinians to begin looking forward in — and palestinians to begin looking forward in understanding that we cannot— forward in understanding that we cannot keep doing this. we keep kill each other— cannot keep doing this. we keep kill each other for more than a hundred years— each other for more than a hundred years and _ each other for more than a hundred years and i— each other for more than a hundred years and i think also the international community never recognises that this conflict does not stay— recognises that this conflict does not stay limited within the boundaries of the jordan river and the mediterranean sea. it has spilt over and _ the mediterranean sea. it has spilt over and will continue to spill over and endangers regional and international security and the international security and the international community have to be serious _ international community have to be serious about it. so i think we are going _ serious about it. so i think we are going to _ serious about it. so i think we are going to see — serious about it. so i think we are going to see real change is
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happening in the not—too—distant future _ happening in the not—too—distant future despite the fact that our current— future despite the fact that our current leaders are opposed to it. and just _ current leaders are opposed to it. and just finally in respect of the operation that still seems intent on within rafah, committee within the secretary of state made any progress or should in virtually understanding what the plan is and secondly dissuading them from going ahead with it? bloom at the best way of preventing the israeli land occurs in a rafah is by having to commit between israel and hamas on the release of hostages and a cease—fire. if that negotiation fails and we don't have an agreement, that i think that israel is going to move forward with its plans to attack that area despite the objection of the international community and israeli's neighbours. you don't have a threat to real unless you intend to use it, and it's a situation that israel is in right now. always good to talk to you. think of her coming on the programme. you. think of her coming on the programme-— around the world and across
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the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. john swinney looks set to become scotland's next first minister after his potential main rival, kate forbes, joined forces with him. mr swinney pledged to create a modern, diverse and dynamic scotland and to give the former finance secretary, ms forbes, a significant role in his government. other candidates have until monday to come forward. a man charged with murdering schoolboy daniel anjorin with a samurai sword in london has appeared in court. marcus arduini monzo was remanded into custody over the attack in hainault on tuesday morning. westminster magistrates' court heard daniel, who was 1a, suffered fatal stab wounds and four other people were injured. take that are the latest pop group to move their concerts from the co—op live in manchester. the arena's opening was postponed for a third time last night when a show by the rapper, a boogie wit da hoodie, was called off.
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olivia rodrigo has also had a concert cancelled. there are two things happening simultaeously in ukraine that are deserving of much greater attention. since the middle of march, moscow has intensified its attacks on ukraine's energy infrastructure, and today 50% of it is damaged. it is the price of leaving ukraine exposed, and it will have a knock—on effect here in europe. potentially, it could lead to an increase in ukrainian demand for gas and electricity in europe and an overall market response to the likelihood that vladimir putin is winning the war. before long, we could be paying the price through our own domestic bills. when we don't deliver, when we delay supplies, it's about life and death. it has real consequences. this war is not a kind of theoretical thing.
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something's going on 21w, and when we are not delivering as we should, then the ukrainians are paying the price. of equal concern is russia's alleged use of choking agents at the front. the united states has today accused the russian forces of using chloropicrin, a choking agent that has forced ukrainian troops to flee under fire or suffocate to death. "the use of such chemicals is not an isolated incident," says the state department. at least 500 ukrainian troops have been treated for exposure to a toxic substance, one dying as a result of suffocation. former british army colonel hamish de bretton—gordon has been giving me his analysis on the situation. chloropicrin is, in effect, what people would know about tear gas and or a riot control agent. it's its effects as a choking agent makes it very difficult for people to breathe who've come into contact with it. incredibly painful on your eyes or any area that's exposed
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with fluid, and gives a natural reaction to get out of the way for people. cos the best antidote for it is fresh air. so in a confined space, but used around the world by police and riot control forces to contain crowds, but unfortunately also used in warfare. and it's illegal in warfare because it is very similar to a chemical weapon and actually illegal under the chemical weapons convention. i was going to ask you about that. what does the convention say about its use? well, in warfare, all toxic chemicals that are used to injure or kill people are illegal not only under the chemical weapons convention, but also under the geneva conventions. so although a slight ambiguity, which i think the russians are really playing on to be used by police against rioting crowds, it's legal, but in warfare it is illegal.
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as you say, the kremlin denies it. they say that moscow remains bound by their obligations under the treaty. is there any way to prove that it's being used? and, i mean, does it linger? can it be tested? absolutely. apart from what the us state department have said overnight, that they are sure that this chemical is being used, there's been two investigations in the last few weeks, one by reuters and one by the telegraph which i was involved in. and that was an extensive investigation across the front—lines with people involved, and samples of the projectile used were recovered and proved to be cs gas or cn gas, riot—control agent. so i don't think there's any doubt. the ukrainian government have submitted a report to the un's police body, in this case the organisation for the prohibition of chemical weapons,
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stating over 600 times. now this report is a couple of months old. in the last few months, the pace of use of these riot control agents has increased markedly, and there are thought to be over 1000 uses in the last six months or so. in the syrian war, we talked about a red line being crossed. and once it was crossed, there were several incidents of these weapons being used against civilian populations. what would be your concern now that we're starting to see evidence of this for the first time? well, i think, first of all, the russians saw how effective toxic chemicals like this were in the syrian war. and i collected evidence of that myself and saw it first—hand. if you have no morals or scruples, they're incredibly effective at rooting people out, as it were. and i think it's this grey area, this area of ambiguity that the russians are playing to. president biden has said last year
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that use of chemical weapons would elicit a direct response from the american government, but they did say the context that it was used. and as far as chemical weapons go, this is a very left end of the scale, the very sort of least dangerous and least toxic. but it is proving incredibly effective, basically because ukrainian troops don't have effective gas masks. they're leaving their trenches for five or ten minutes to try and recover from this gas. and in that time, the russians are using conventional weapons and assaulting and taking those positions. and a lot of the kilometres made in the last few months have been on the back of using this illegal weapon. is there any way we could help with this? well, yes, we certainly can. these toxic chemicals are only effective for a few minutes, five minutes, ten minutes at most. but the problem at the moment is that the gas masks that ukrainians have are all soviet ones that don't work. it might not be known to many people, but britain is the leading producer of top—quality gas masks in the world.
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we supply the american military, the british military and most of the nato countries as well. so it would be relatively straightforward, i assume, and easy for britain to solve this problem by giving the ukraine military effective british gas masks, which would make this illegal weapon of no consequence on the battlefield and wouldn't give the russians the advantage that it currently is. the core supplies of gas masks, like supplies of missiles, have not been forthcoming, and that if the problem around the country now in defending some of these energy plants. inna sovsun is a ukrainian mp and joins me now from kyiv. lovely to have you on the programme again. let's talk about energy. president zelensky has made several urgent appeals now for the supplies to be speeded up. just how exposed are these energy plants around the country? are these energy plants around the count ? ~ ., , . . . country? well, to explain the damage that was done — country? well, to explain the damage that was done over _ country? well, to explain the damage that was done over the _ country? well, to explain the damage that was done over the last _ country? well, to explain the damage
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demand and we will not have the capacity to cover it with anything| capacity to cover it with anything truly at — capacity to cover it with anything truly at this _ capacity to cover it with anything truly at this point. _ capacity to cover it with anything truly at this point.— truly at this point. there was a recent strike _ truly at this point. there was a recent strike on _ truly at this point. there was a recent strike on to _ truly at this point. there was a | recent strike on to underground storage facilities in the west of the country which caused a
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significant spike in european gas prices. the reason for that is they were fully operational, and that europeans were trading some of that gas. so the question is how connected are people in europe, how connected are people in europe, how connected are people in europe, how connected are there domestic energy bills to what is going on right now? well, likely those attacks on gas storages— well, likely those attacks on gas storages have _ well, likely those attacks on gas storages have not _ well, likely those attacks on gas storages have not been - well, likely those attacks on gas storages have not been as- well, likely those attacks on gas - storages have not been as successful as they— storages have not been as successful as they have — storages have not been as successful as they have treen— storages have not been as successful as they have been on _ storages have not been as successful as they have been on the _ storages have not been as successful as they have been on the attacks - as they have been on the attacks on electricity— as they have been on the attacks on electricity generation. _ as they have been on the attacks on electricity generation. so _ as they have been on the attacks on electricity generation. so as - as they have been on the attacks on electricity generation. so as of - electricity generation. so as of right— electricity generation. so as of right now. _ electricity generation. so as of right now. i_ electricity generation. so as of right now, ithink— electricity generation. so as of right now, i think it's - electricity generation. so as of right now, i think it's more - electricity generation. so as ofj right now, i think it's more the mood — right now, i think it's more the mood and _ right now, i think it's more the mood and expectation - right now, i think it's more the mood and expectation for- right now, i think it's more the mood and expectation for the. right now, i think it's more the - mood and expectation for the attacks rather— mood and expectation for the attacks rather than _ mood and expectation for the attacks rather than the — mood and expectation for the attacks rather than the real— mood and expectation for the attacks rather than the real destruction - mood and expectation for the attacks rather than the real destruction of. rather than the real destruction of -as rather than the real destruction of gas that— rather than the real destruction of gas that was— rather than the real destruction of gas that was stored _ rather than the real destruction of gas that was stored there. - rather than the real destruction of gas that was stored there. so - rather than the real destruction of gas that was stored there. so i. gas that was stored there. so i would — gas that was stored there. so i would not _ gas that was stored there. so i would not say— gas that was stored there. so i would not say that _ gas that was stored there. so i would not say that it _ gas that was stored there. so i would not say that it has - gas that was stored there. so i would not say that it has direct influence. _ would not say that it has direct influence, but _ would not say that it has direct influence, but of— would not say that it has direct influence, but of course - would not say that it has direct influence, but of course it - would not say that it has direct| influence, but of course it does influence — influence, but of course it does influence the _ influence, but of course it does influence the markets - influence, but of course it does influence the markets and - influence, but of course it does influence the markets and the. influence the markets and the expectations _ influence the markets and the expectations of— influence the markets and the expectations of the _ influence the markets and the expectations of the worst - influence the markets and the expectations of the worst is l influence the markets and the i expectations of the worst is the comp _ expectations of the worst is the comp can— expectations of the worst is the comp can shape _ expectations of the worst is the comp can shape the _ expectations of the worst is the comp can shape the market. i expectations of the worst is the l comp can shape the market. but expectations of the worst is the . comp can shape the market. but i would _ comp can shape the market. but i would not — comp can shape the market. but i would not say— comp can shape the market. but i would not say this _ comp can shape the market. but i would not say this is _ comp can shape the market. but i would not say this is the - comp can shape the market. but i would not say this is the biggest i would not say this is the biggest contributor... _ would not say this is the biggest contributor... but— would not say this is the biggest contributor. . ._ would not say this is the biggest contributor... but what about the winter? to _ contributor... but what about the winter? to feel _ contributor... but what about the winter? to feel the _ contributor... but what about the winter? to feel the shortfall - contributor... but what about the winter? to feel the shortfall that| winter? to feel the shortfall that you were talking about, preferably ukraine would have to draw energy from that european supplies. does
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that put further strain on the markets? is it we are talking about? well we will probably by a european electricity— well we will probably by a european electricity during _ well we will probably by a european electricity during the _ well we will probably by a european electricity during the winter. - well we will probably by a european electricity during the winter. our. electricity during the winter. our capacity— electricity during the winter. our capacity to — electricity during the winter. our capacity to truy— electricity during the winter. our capacity to buy electricity - electricity during the winter. our capacity to buy electricity from l electricity during the winter. our. capacity to buy electricity from the eu is— capacity to buy electricity from the eu is limited. _ capacity to buy electricity from the eu is limited, so— capacity to buy electricity from the eu is limited, so it _ capacity to buy electricity from the eu is limited, so it would - capacity to buy electricity from the eu is limited, so it would not - eu is limited, so it would not significantly— eu is limited, so it would not significantly influence - eu is limited, so it would not significantly influence the - eu is limited, so it would not - significantly influence the european market— significantly influence the european marketjust — significantly influence the european marketjust because _ significantly influence the european market just because the _ significantly influence the european market just because the technical. market just because the technical capacity— market just because the technical capacity and — market just because the technical capacity and the _ market just because the technical capacity and the regulatory - market just because the technical. capacity and the regulatory capacity are very _ capacity and the regulatory capacity are very limited. _ capacity and the regulatory capacity are very limited. so— capacity and the regulatory capacity are very limited. so i— capacity and the regulatory capacity are very limited. so i would - capacity and the regulatory capacity are very limited. so i would not- capacity and the regulatory capacity are very limited. so i would not sayj are very limited. so i would not say that this _ are very limited. so i would not say that this will — are very limited. so i would not say that this will mean _ are very limited. so i would not say that this will mean that _ are very limited. so i would not say that this will mean that ukraine - that this will mean that ukraine will take — that this will mean that ukraine will take up— that this will mean that ukraine will take up a— that this will mean that ukraine will take up a big _ that this will mean that ukraine will take up a big portion- that this will mean that ukraine will take up a big portion of- will take up a big portion of european _ will take up a big portion of european electricity- will take up a big portion of. european electricity produced. will take up a big portion of- european electricity produced. as for gas, _ european electricity produced. as for gas, we — european electricity produced. as for gas, we have _ european electricity produced. as for gas, we have only— european electricity produced. as for gas, we have only been - european electricity produced. asl for gas, we have only been storing european — for gas, we have only been storing european gas _ for gas, we have only been storing european gas we _ for gas, we have only been storing european gas. we have _ for gas, we have only been storing european gas. we have been - for gas, we have only been storing| european gas. we have been using for gas, we have only been storing - european gas. we have been using our own gas— european gas. we have been using our own gas for— european gas. we have been using our own gas for consumption _ european gas. we have been using our own gas for consumption over - european gas. we have been using our own gas for consumption over here, i own gas for consumption over here, so again— own gas for consumption over here, so again unless _ own gas for consumption over here, so again unless we _ own gas for consumption over here, so again unless we will _ own gas for consumption over here, so again unless we will need - so again unless we will need additional— so again unless we will need additional gas _ so again unless we will need additional gas for— so again unless we will need additional gas for our- so again unless we will need | additional gas for our needs, so again unless we will need - additional gas for our needs, which does _ additional gas for our needs, which does not _ additional gas for our needs, which does not seem _ additional gas for our needs, which does not seem likely— additional gas for our needs, which does not seem likely as— additional gas for our needs, which does not seem likely as of- additional gas for our needs, which does not seem likely as of right - does not seem likely as of right now, _ does not seem likely as of right now. i— does not seem likely as of right now. i don't— does not seem likely as of right now, i don't think _ does not seem likely as of right now, i don't think that - does not seem likely as of right now, i don't think that this - does not seem likely as of right now, i don't think that this will| now, i don't think that this will influence — now, i don't think that this will influence the _ now, i don't think that this will influence the european - now, i don't think that this will influence the european market dramatically _ influence the european market dramatically. but _ influence the european market dramatically. but if— influence the european market dramatically. but if they- influence the european market. dramatically. but if they continue their attacks _ dramatically. but if they continue their attacks and _ dramatically. but if they continue their attacks and with _ dramatically. but if they continue their attacks and with that - dramatically. but if they continue their attacks and with that of - their attacks and with that of course — their attacks and with that of course a _ their attacks and with that of course a situation _ their attacks and with that of course a situation can - their attacks and with that of. course a situation can change. right — course a situation can change. right talk— course a situation can change. right talk to _ course a situation can change. right. talk to me _ course a situation can change. right. talk to me about - course a situation can change. right. talk to me about the i right. talk to me about the situation at the front because we have not focused on it for a few days but these reports of gas being
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used in advances in some places, the cheaper said the front line is under real pressure right now. how serious is it becoming? it is real pressure right now. how serious is it becoming?— is it becoming? it is extremely serious, is it becoming? it is extremely serious. and — is it becoming? it is extremely serious, and of _ is it becoming? it is extremely serious, and of course - is it becoming? it is extremely serious, and of course we - is it becoming? it is extremely| serious, and of course we have is it becoming? it is extremely . serious, and of course we have all been _ serious, and of course we have all been excited _ serious, and of course we have all been excited about _ serious, and of course we have all been excited about the _ serious, and of course we have all been excited about the congress i been excited about the congress providing — been excited about the congress providing aid _ been excited about the congress providing aid to _ been excited about the congress providing aid to ukraine - been excited about the congress providing aid to ukraine finally, i providing aid to ukraine finally, but unfortunately— providing aid to ukraine finally, but unfortunately it _ providing aid to ukraine finally, but unfortunately it did - providing aid to ukraine finally, but unfortunately it did not - providing aid to ukraine finally, i but unfortunately it did not change the situation — but unfortunately it did not change the situation on _ but unfortunately it did not change the situation on the _ but unfortunately it did not change the situation on the front - but unfortunately it did not change the situation on the front levels i but unfortunately it did not change the situation on the front levels up with still— the situation on the front levels up with still feel _ the situation on the front levels up with still feel a _ the situation on the front levels up with still feel a lack _ the situation on the front levels up with still feel a lack of _ the situation on the front levels up with still feel a lack of ammunition and we _ with still feel a lack of ammunition and we still— with still feel a lack of ammunition and we still feel— with still feel a lack of ammunition and we still feel a _ with still feel a lack of ammunition and we still feel a lack— with still feel a lack of ammunition and we still feel a lack of all- and we still feel a lack of all supplies_ and we still feel a lack of all supplies and _ and we still feel a lack of all supplies and unfortunately. and we still feel a lack of all. supplies and unfortunately the russians— supplies and unfortunately the russians have _ supplies and unfortunately the russians have had _ supplies and unfortunately the russians have had so - supplies and unfortunately the russians have had so much i supplies and unfortunately the - russians have had so much increased their capacity — russians have had so much increased their capacity to — russians have had so much increased their capacity to attack. _ russians have had so much increased their capacity to attack. they - russians have had so much increased their capacity to attack. they have . their capacity to attack. they have so much _ their capacity to attack. they have so much more _ their capacity to attack. they have so much more drones, _ their capacity to attack. they have so much more drones, so- their capacity to attack. they have so much more drones, so much. their capacity to attack. they have i so much more drones, so much more missiles, _ so much more drones, so much more missiles, and — so much more drones, so much more missiles, and they— so much more drones, so much more missiles, and they are _ so much more drones, so much more missiles, and they are really - so much more drones, so much more missiles, and they are really movingl missiles, and they are really moving forward _ missiles, and they are really moving forward on _ missiles, and they are really moving forward on the — missiles, and they are really moving forward on the east _ missiles, and they are really moving forward on the east specifically. - forward on the east specifically. not so — forward on the east specifically. not so much _ forward on the east specifically. not so much on _ forward on the east specifically. not so much on the _ forward on the east specifically. . not so much on the south campus forward on the east specifically. - not so much on the south campus and of course _ not so much on the south campus and of course we _ not so much on the south campus and of course we are — not so much on the south campus and of course we are very _ not so much on the south campus and of course we are very much _ not so much on the south campus and of course we are very much concerned j of course we are very much concerned about _ of course we are very much concerned about potential — of course we are very much concerned about potential attacks _ of course we are very much concerned about potential attacks over _ of course we are very much concerned about potential attacks over the - about potential attacks over the next month _ about potential attacks over the next month. and _ about potential attacks over the next month. and unfortunatelyi about potential attacks over the . next month. and unfortunately we don't _ next month. and unfortunately we don't have — next month. and unfortunately we don't have what _ next month. and unfortunately we don't have what it _ next month. and unfortunately we don't have what it takes _ next month. and unfortunately we don't have what it takes to - next month. and unfortunately we don't have what it takes to stop i next month. and unfortunately wej don't have what it takes to stop it, including _ don't have what it takes to stop it, including of— don't have what it takes to stop it, including of course _ don't have what it takes to stop it, including of course the _ don't have what it takes to stop it, including of course the air- including of course the air superiority _ including of course the air superiority which - including of course the air superiority which are - including of course the airl superiority which are made including of course the air— superiority which are made probably the biggest — superiority which are made probably the biggest challenge _ superiority which are made probably the biggest challenge to _ superiority which are made probably the biggest challenge to the - the biggest challenge to the ukrainian _ the biggest challenge to the ukrainian front— the biggest challenge to the ukrainian front line. - the biggest challenge to the ukrainian front line. find - the biggest challenge to the ukrainian front line. and 'ust cuickl a ukrainian front line. and 'ust quickly a slight i ukrainian front line. and 'ust quickly a slight change h ukrainian front line. and just quickly a slight change for i ukrainian front line. and just| quickly a slight change for un ukrainian front line. and just - quickly a slight change for un kyiv as a result?— as a result? well, we have had several attacks _ as a result? well, we have had several attacks around - as a result? well, we have had several attacks around kyiv - as a result? well, we have had| several attacks around kyiv over as a result? well, we have had - several attacks around kyiv over the last month, —
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several attacks around kyiv over the last month, but _ several attacks around kyiv over the last month, but likely— several attacks around kyiv over the last month, but likely we _ several attacks around kyiv over the last month, but likely we still- several attacks around kyiv over the last month, but likely we still have i last month, but likely we still have electricity— last month, but likely we still have electricity here. _ last month, but likely we still have electricity here. i'm _ last month, but likely we still have electricity here. i'm very— last month, but likely we still have electricity here. i'm very much - last month, but likely we still have electricity here. i'm very much is. electricity here. i'm very much is it about — electricity here. i'm very much is it about what _ electricity here. i'm very much is it about what is _ electricity here. i'm very much is it about what is to _ electricity here. i'm very much is it about what is to come - electricity here. i'm very much is it about what is to come in - electricity here. i'm very much is it about what is to come in the i it about what is to come in the summer— it about what is to come in the summer and _ it about what is to come in the summer and especially- it about what is to come in the summer and especially over i it about what is to come in the. summer and especially over the winter — summer and especially over the winter people _ summer and especially over the winter. people are _ summer and especially over the winter. people are feeling - summer and especially over the winter. people are feeling it. i summer and especially over the i winter. people are feeling it. they know _ winter. people are feeling it. they know that — winter. people are feeling it. they know that the _ winter. people are feeling it. they know that the level— winter. people are feeling it. they know that the level of _ winter. people are feeling it. they know that the level of destruction | know that the level of destruction of energy— know that the level of destruction of energy infrastructure _ know that the level of destruction of energy infrastructure has - know that the level of destruction of energy infrastructure has been| of energy infrastructure has been bad, _ of energy infrastructure has been bad, some — of energy infrastructure has been bad, some people _ of energy infrastructure has been bad, some people are _ of energy infrastructure has been bad, some people are trying - of energy infrastructure has been bad, some people are trying to i of energy infrastructure has been i bad, some people are trying to get ready _ bad, some people are trying to get ready but — bad, some people are trying to get ready. but there _ bad, some people are trying to get ready. but there is _ bad, some people are trying to get ready. but there is so _ bad, some people are trying to get ready. but there is so much- bad, some people are trying to get ready. but there is so much you i bad, some people are trying to geti ready. but there is so much you can do if— ready. but there is so much you can do if you _ ready. but there is so much you can do if you live — ready. but there is so much you can do if you live in a _ ready. but there is so much you can do if you live in a multistory- do if you live in a multistory apartment— do if you live in a multistory apartment building, - do if you live in a multistory apartment building, so, - do if you live in a multistory. apartment building, so, yeah, do if you live in a multistory- apartment building, so, yeah, people feelthis— apartment building, so, yeah, people feel this pressure _ apartment building, so, yeah, people feel this pressure and _ apartment building, so, yeah, people feel this pressure and they— apartment building, so, yeah, people feel this pressure and they feel - feel this pressure and they feel exhausted _ feel this pressure and they feel exhausted and _ feel this pressure and they feel exhausted and they— feel this pressure and they feel exhausted and they feel - feel this pressure and they feel exhausted and they feel left i feel this pressure and they feel - exhausted and they feel left alone. not the _ exhausted and they feel left alone. not the best— exhausted and they feel left alone. not the best mood _ exhausted and they feel left alone. not the best mood in _ exhausted and they feel left alone. not the best mood in the _ exhausted and they feel left alone. not the best mood in the country. i exhausted and they feel left alone. i not the best mood in the country. we have not the best mood in the country. c have the not the best mood in the country. have the best and we have to go to a break. lovely to talk to you. if you grandma is coming on the programme. stay with us. hello there. good evening. it was stormy last night across the south, around 4000 lightning strikes recorded, and still the potential for more thunderstorms overnight tonight and throughout the day tomorrow for some. once again, the best of the warmth and the sunshine for western areas of scotland. overnight tonight, we've
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still got that waving front across england and wales, lots of cloud here with some outbreaks of rain. watch out for some heavy, thundery showers pushing into lincolnshire in yorkshire by the time we get to tomorrow morning, perhaps. still with that onshore breeze for north sea—facing coasts, a misty start to the day. plenty of cloud here. and it's a frost—free start to the day tomorrow, of course, as well. now, through friday, we're going to see our waving front slowly push its way a little further northwards, introducing cooler—feeling conditions across the far south coast. but to start with, through the morning, there'll be outbreaks of rain. watch out for these thunderstorms tracking further northwards and westwards through the day, into north—west england, perhaps parts of northern ireland as well. it's a bright start to the day here, but it will cloud over through the afternoon. again, still that onshore breeze — cloudier, coolerfor north sea —facing coasts. a huge drop in temperature for east anglia between thursday and friday. highest temperatures, best of the sunshine across western areas of scotland once again, 21 or 22 degrees. now, as we head through saturday, our front continues to push further northwards across scotland and northern ireland,
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so this is where we're likely to see more cloud across the north as we head through saturday. watch out for some showers as well. and i wouldn't totally rule out the possibility of some further showers across the south—east of england. perhaps the best of the sunshine will tend to be across northern england. temperatures more or less the seasonal average. and on saturday night into sunday, we start to see this area of low pressure roll in from the south—west, so possibly the focus for the showers, the cloud will tend to be out towards the south and the west, gradually pushing further northwards and eastwards through the day. so, again, more sunshine for northern england, perhaps more showers and cloud across northern scotland into northern ireland. but it's important not to take the graphics too literally at this stage through the bank holiday weekend, because they're still likely to change. it's a very messy picture all in all. what we do know is that there will be some sunshine at times and, of course, the sun fairly strong at this time of year, so it will feel warm in the best of that, but expect to see more wet weather, showers and longer spells of rain, too.
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