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augustine, florida police down there. have a record of it encounters with him, things that may have to do with being emotionally unhinged. he had in-depth conspiracy theory and called the ponzi papers that he had posted online that has to do with banks cryptocurrency universities, movistar is murder plots. it's very detailed and not much of it has anything to do with donald trump or the campaign. he did have a sign with him that said, trump is with biden and they're about to fascist coup us, which is a sign of how disjointed his conspiracy theories are his driver's license was taped to the sign because he wanted to he wanted get people to know who he was. police theorize the reason he did this. in front of the courthouse, in the park just adjacent to where the cameras were was so that he could get national or global attention to what he was doing.
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and the weird theories that he's posted online behind it. >> john miller. thank you very much for that update. john miller helping us. i'm wolf blitzer in this room. thanks very much for watching the news continues next on sienna tonight are 36012 jurors, six alternates. >> now, just three days away from making history as the first american to ever to decide the guilt or innocence of a former president of the united states. also, we're following breaking news, but explosions reportedly five at a base used by pro iranian fighters in iraq. is his new video just in all just a night after israel's response to iran's missile and drone attack. and later how house speaker mike johnson's active by partisanship with democrats to pass aid to israel, ukraine, and more as. being treated as betrayal by some radical republicans. good evening, thanks for joining us at the end of historic but also harrowing day in and around new york city courtroom or opening
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statements in the first trump criminal trial are now set for monday historic for what are by now familiar, but still astonishing reasons. a former president facing felony charges for the first time ever harrowing in that a deeply troubled man used the occasion as set himself on fire outside the courthouse tonight. all 18 jurors and alternates had been chosen. an appeals court judge declined to pause the trial for defense motion to change the venue. the former president who yesterday complained the trial was keeping him off the campaign trail, complained today that it's moving too fast. >> we just had another hearing and the trials tax or monday, which is long before a lot of people thought the judge wants it's good to go as fast as possible. let's history's himself for my reasons are what he says. it now appears all systems are go to trial will begin monday. we're now from cnn's kara scannell. so what happened in today's proceedings? >> so anderson as he proceeded through jury selection, trump at times, look bored. other
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times he looked really engaged again, creating his neck to look at the jurors when his lawyers we're asking them their opinion in of the former president we were still inside the courthouse when we started to get word that the man outside had set himself on fire. now the judge had left the bench. trump was still in the courtroom standing. we saw a secret service agent walked over him to talk to him that this was just moments after those final five alternates were selected and told to return monday for opening statements we have our full panel that announcement from judge juan wir schon after jury selection concluded, 18 manhattan nights, 12 jurors and six alternates. now seated there's any good to go now, so and this will go on for another four or five weeks and it's very unfair trump appeared board much of the trial de for as attorneys on both sides probe potential jurors until they fill the remaining five alternate seats moments after the full jury was picked, a bizarre and tragic moment outside court as a man set
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himself on fire authorities say he was previously known to the police. >> and while they are searching for any domestic terror connections, that is not believed to have been the motivation in court. a handful of perspective jurors became emotional. one was excused after she told the judge she had anxiety and was worried as the trial goes on, more people could know she's part of the jury saying, i might not be able to be completely fair and not emotional. so that concerns me. another was dismissed after she began crying, saying, i'm sorry, i thought i could do this. i wouldn't want someone who feels this way to judge my case either. i don't want you to feel i've wasted anyone's time. this is so much more stressful than i thought a third way but sent home after noting she was feeling anxiety and self-doubt as she listened to a line of questioning about the credibility of witnesses at the defense table. trump's set flipping through papers with charts, photos, and graphics. he whispered and passed notes with his lawyers and at some points was hunched over with his elbows on the desk
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prosecutors susan ha finger started off questioning potential jurors, telling them this is not about mr. trumping, a former president. it's not about his being a candidate for the presidency. it's only about whether the evidence proves he's guilty during her presentation, trump leaned back in his chair at one point, his eyes closed trump's attorney, susan necklace focused on bias against the former president. she told those in the jury box, you all bring biases and you particularly bring biases about someone who is as publicly an outspoken as president trump. there's nobody that doesn't know him in this room in the afternoon, the court moved to a routine hearing to determine how much of trump's legal history the prosecution will be allowed to ask him about if he testifies which he said he plans to prosecutors argued they should be allowed to question trump about the findings in the e jean carroll defamation case, among others. despite trump's attorneys strong objection. the former president shook his head as a prosecution smoke about how he
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defamed carroll when will the judge actually decide if prosecutors can ask the former president about his past legal cases so judge number sean said that he would rule on this on monday, likely before opening statements get underway, know trump's lawyer also tried, again to try to learn who the prosecution's first witnesses who they expect to call after openings. prosecutor said that he would give them the name on sunday, but if it showed up on social media, it would be the last time anderson curves no, thanks. joining us now is johnny jones the third former chief judge for the us middle district court of pennsylvania. with me here is john miller, former new york deputy police commissioner for intelligence and counter terrorism, cnn senior legal analyst elie honig, and jury consultant jill huntley, taylor. so first of all, we're waiting on the judge to rule about what they can asked him about how much they can ask about past cases. when do you think that's going to happen and how likely is it they're gonna get everything they want. >> so i think it's going to happen monday morning, probably before openings the test here
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is not whether the other information that prosecutors might want to cross-examine trump about show that he's a terrible guy. that in fact is supposed to be not the purpose. the purpose is to show that he's dishonest, that he lacks trustworthiness. so if you look at the various things prosecutors are trying to get in, i think the judge will allow prosecutors to ask him about the civil fraud trial, perhaps defaming e. jean carroll, then you get into sort of more distinct, separate stuff like the frivolous lawsuit against hillary clinton feels like a stretch to me so i think the judge is going to do what we've seen him do quite a lot of which is little bit for the prosecution, little bit for the defense. and then that'll inform donald trump's decision whether he's going to testify. i am still a solid absolutely not. but this may further that decision. >> judge jones, do you see anything wrong with the speed or the proceedings so far? >> no, i don't see anything wrong at all. anderson and as i said last evening, i think any responsible judge is going to try to move this case forward. you have to be concerned about the jurors time and the outside
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noise that's taking place. i commend, judge, merchan for getting the jury picked. this week. i don't see that that creates a problem at all. the perception may be that it's going too fast. this is typical of a trial when, you know, you're going to be seated for maybe a month or month-and-a-half you need to get busy. i mean, you're taking time out of people's lives and it only makes sense to get started. >> chill. we heard about potential jurors crying, getting emotional, talking about a lot of people talking about stress and anxiety. can you just talk about the stress i mean, anybody might feel on a jury, but particularly this yeah. >> and there's a lot of reasons people don't want to be on juries, but i don't want to add another one, but it is strike last fall is stressful in any case, think of cases like where there's a horrific crime involved in the jurors are going to be exposed to her photos and scenes and things like that. it can be very, very
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stressful here. the jurors know that all eyes are on this case all eyes are watching they walk into court. there's donald trump, a president. there's, there's people all outside the courtroom. the courtroom is full they they know that all eyes are on the case and that their decision is going to be highly scrutinized no matter what it is. & their life is going to be under a microscope exactly very soon, john, in terms of the godo center, myself on fire, what do we know? well, we know he's have 36 year-old man from st. augustine, florida, the police down there have had contact with him in a number of incidents that could be connected to mental health crises nowhere in the nypd files are in the intelligence holdings in the counterterrorism world of the police or the fbi. so the question is anderson why that, why there why today he carried a sign with him that said trump is with biden and there are about to fascist coup. the
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united states but his conspiracy theory material, which was all over the web, and he directed people to that today before he did this. doesn't have much to do with donald trump or joe biden. it's about cryptocurrency and universities, movistar whereas in millionaires and a whole web of corruption and murder. but i think the idea he came with was there's one place where every camera from every media outlet everywhere in the world is going to be at a specific time. i'm going to make sure that i direct them to my theories. it's one of the reasons we don't go deep into what they are or talk a lot about him by name is he's done a terrible thing to himself and his family and you don't want to encourage anybody else, right? to do it. so in terms of access to that location, to being that closed, is going to change i mean, it could it's a public park, but it sits between three courthouses and collect pond park is used by people,
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especially as the weather gets nicer. >> so is the answer widening the perimeter? and if you do that, what do you do with the park behind the courthouse, which is also open to the public or is the answer just posting more police, they're ready the respond rapidly if something occurs, led these likely they're going to sequester these jurors at some point because they're going be leaving the courthouse every day. what am getting on the subway? i mean, what's to stop some weirdo from following? >> that's a great question. it's an option that's available to courts and what we talk about sequestration, there's various gradations of that we see sometimes in the movies the full sequestration where everyone lives in a motel together. i don't think we'll ever get to that point, but there are intermediate versions and i've had this with some of my trials where they will have the jurors, for example, meet at a certain common spot a few miles away from the courthouse and then bust them in using the underground tunnel to get in and then take them back to that location. you want to give the jurors sense of security. joe's absolutely right. it is a scary at times traumatic
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experience and anything you can do to make them feel protected, i think is important to do. now, that'll be up to the judge. one thing you always want to watch out is this weekend here when they come back on monday sometimes jurors will read things, hear things, people will say things to them. so it wouldn't show talk me if we have a juror or to come monday morning, say to the judge, i don't think i can do this, by the way, you have to add in defense lawyers hate this. yeah. because it's a signal. they say unspoken signal that you're being treated differently because this defendant is dangerous, are a danger to you or is people are so they'll oppose it. >> judge jones? think it would make sense to me for the protection of the jurors to somehow sequester them to yeah two things the logistics of sequestering a jury, as my co panelist, no are really daunting and the expense is high and jurors don't like it necessarily i agree that defense attorneys typically don't like it either, but i'll tell you what at the end of a trial de i would typically say
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to juries, don't read anything about this case, don't research it, don't get on the internet, don't do your own. >> looking into the details and you know, i always thought there's a certain number of jurors that would go home and they jump right on google and check the case out. so it is perilous that no matter what admonitions you give, unless the juror gets on social media, there's really no way to check whether they've done some kind of sidebar research on the case. that is a problem. and you could have juror show up and admit that they did it. that's why you have alternatives. but it is a tough aspect to a trial when there's a long weekend, gelatin. >> does that add i mean, if a juror is sequestered, i assume that would add to the stress of it there away from their families or their loved ones and kinds of stress, right? you're taking away some stress this and you're adding a different one and it also suggests that some jurors may not be able to be sequestered. some of the jurors who already seated. they might have an
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issue with being away from their family in a greater way than they currently are. so i would be concerned that some of them would have to go joe jones, the former president, said again today that he intends to testify. do you think that could change? ange once the judge actually rules and which of his past legal run-ins can be introduced as evidenced, are or do you think it's him just talking that no defense attorney would allow his client in this case to testify well, here's a scenario, anderson i think could happen, and ellie mae agree with me on this that, you know, he's saying he's going to testify. and then judge merchan and i agree fully with the le that although the prosecution has loaded the wagon with a number of things that they'd like to introduce a go-to his credibility so now, merchan will give them some things and you could imagine that former president trump would say, well, you know, i was going to testify, but this corrupt judge is letting all this evidence and that's irrelevant cases that i have on
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appeal and so forth. and unfortunately, i can testify because he he's done me wrong, so to speak. that's an out for him. i would think if he wants to take it. no lawyer that i know of a node if no credible defense attorney would advise foreign president trump to testify in this trial. i can imagine, that would allow to evidence all these things which he has reason to want to have in evidence, it would be disastrous. they would allow and all these other things that the jury, by the way, won't otherwise here about. >> they're not going to hear about e jean carroll in the civil fraud case. plus he will be grilled on this case itself. and let me just make another prediction when the moment comes, what i think i'll say in addition to what judge jones said is i'm eager to testify, but my lawyers told me that we did such a good job tearing down found the government's case that there's no need, and that's what i'm gonna do. >> all right. elie honig, jill huntley taylor. thank you, judge jones, as well. and john miller. thank you. coming up next, could you be fair if you want to trump jury seen as miguel marquez puts that question to new yorkers. and later multiple explosions and a pro iran based in iraq just a
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tomorrow at nine this week, speedy jury selection in the first trump criminal trial provided a fascinating look at the lives and sensibility for the men and women who will be deciding his fate. >> and though for obvious reasons, we can't sit down and speak with them. we can spend time talking with the same broad slice of people here in new york but the jury was drawn from cnn's miguel marquez. did that you know, donald trump for many years. what is what was your impression of him before he was president? and arrogance but not a bad person. >> but you think you could even that courtroom and you could judge the evidence fairly? yeah. because i haven't delved into the details or him or anything. he doesn't really interest me that much. >> do you think you could be a fair and impartial in the trump trial? no, that's why? >> because as i said before, i really hated his total catastrophes we are going from? the top of manhattan to the
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very bottom of manhattan, talking to manhattan nights potential jurors whether they could be fair and impartial so in the donalds, on trial on the 34 counts that he is charged with, you could make a fair and impartial decision, follows to the facts and everything, yeah. i think i can i will i will i won't let him being a jerk cloud my legal sense of of fair play. >> i don't have an advisory opinion blogging. i think people should be judged by what they've done before. well, and i think they've diluted down and its history and its evidence so i should be judged by that. >> you think you could be fair to gun and saw it's just i mean, i feel like deserves that. >> yes, i would totally be fair and impartial because that's what i believe in i'm always i'm a new yorker. i'm up front now. i'm honest about everything. >> could you be fair and impartial? know why because all the tv and speculation in and things that i've seen that he's done and i don't really agree on his character in 2020 manhattan nights voted democratic in overwhelming
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numbers, just over 12% for trump biden nearly 87% do you think donald trump can get a fair trial in manhattan? i am say yes, if there's a place that it's going to happen, it's going to happen here because new yorkers in general, we may have opinions but i feel like we set the tone for fair and equity. that's what we do. >> clearly, our justice system is being attacked. i think it's up to us to defend it, to defend and due process and to defend the rule of law against all of its enemies so now, even some conservatives we spoke to said that they thought he liked the idea the trial, but they thought he could get a fair trial and all the manhattan it so too said that they weren't concerned about their personal safety, that they trusted the system and puffy be fine. >> but given everything that's happened this week downtown manhattan, one has to wonder if they were actually on that jury, if they feel the same, anderson, we've got more cash. thanks so large perspective now from former trump campaign adviser davidai urban and norm
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eisen, who investigated trump is counsel to house democrats in the first impeachment and litigated cases involving him previously, he's also the author of trying trump a guide to his first election interference, criminal trial david, you've been saying all along, you don't think the foreign president can get a fair trial in manhattan, is it that you just don't believe those 12 jurors and six alternates when they say that they can't be fair. fair. and judge, the case in the facts hey, look, anderson, i think it's a tough it's tough situation, right? everybody believes, i think in their heart, they can be fair, but they come, they come to this case with their own set of biases. and and if you just look at the demographics, almost eight and ten people in manhattan voted against donald trump so if you're, if you're one of those folks, i don't know how the jury breaks down, but i'm wondering who they voted for. and if you didn't vote for the former president i think you probably come to that jury with a real bias against him. >> norm, the former president's allies, they're not having about juror number 11. she said in court that she doesn't like the foreign presence persona that he seemed
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selfish self-serving, though she didn't tell the judge she could put all that aside and be fair. should the judge number accused her for cause i don't think so. >> anderson, this was one of the most searching scrutinise of each of these jurors that you could have asked for it, the judge's scrupulously fair tara, at times, i thought he was too fair to donald trump and he asked these jurors over 40 questions. they were examined, re-examined by the parties look, donald trump is a very well-known and very polarizing figure. but americans take it very seriously when they promised to be fair and independent. and i have seen juries over my decades of practicing law set aside that stuff that happens outside the courtroom. we also saw a huge number of jurors who said they couldn't be fair, over half of each of the two
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panels that came in of 96 jurors stepping away because they felt they couldn't meet that standard 20 jurors excused over 24 peremptory challenges challenges for cause. i have every confidence that this jury and this judge can be fair and that donald trump will be judged on the evidence and on the law, which is how it should be. >> david, the former president. he's complained that the trial is keeping them off the campaign trail that he's forced to sit in a cold courtroom all day late today, though he complained the trial was moving too fast. >> does and doesn't need to kinda pick a lane on when it comes to complaints because now it sounds like you wants it to go slower well, i have not talked to the former president about this. i believe he probably wished that they had had more time to pick a jury that was probably different, right? he probably didn't like the like, the jurors that were seated and they probably ran out of peremptory strikes as norm i wasn't in the courtroom like normalise, but i'm so they ran out of their strikes
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you get what you get, you. so you get what you get. and anderson in norm, listen, if the script was flipped in this case, right if that juror that you just read had those same feelings about joe biden? joe biden was on trial, right the other sayyed would be losing their minds right. about getting fair and having a fair and imbalanced trial. look, this is a very important case. i think we should we should try. they should move the venue. they should struck the judge. if you want to if you want to have a serious case about this or you can just have a kangaroo court that's what's going to play out. and that's how it's going to be perceived by americans. norm, as we mentioned, the foreign presence request for a stay of the trial pending a venue change was denied by a statement the appeals judge say trump's attorney argued that seating a jury this quickly in this climate was so many prospective jurors being dismissed over bias or self acknowledged bias or should point out was untenable. does that logic makes sense or does it i mean, i guess there's a counter argument which is that it shows the process worked is intended by weeding out those with with bias yeah.
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>> anderson having been in the courthouse, i mean, the vast number of jurors who screened this one of the most elaborate processes i've seen donald trump never saw at trial delay that he didn't like. there is absolutely no basis in new york lai has has been affirmed by the judge. and reaffirmed by the appellate courts for this case to be moved delayed, or slow down in any way so i think it can be a fair trial and it is it's a good thing that we are moving with reasonable expedition in one of these criminal cases. and if i may add the judge has described the case in the prosecutor will argue that the case is one of election interference. the judge explain that to the the jury. the same fundamental
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pattern, voter deception to grasp and then a cover up as we find in the 2020 election, interference cases so that makes it all the more imperative that we move with reasonable speed. and that's what's happening. >> your minds and thank you, david urban as well. thanks. >> thanks thank you coming up, we're following the breaking news explosion south of baghdad at a base controlled by an iranian-backed group reported a short time ago, what israel and the us now have said about it, this comes almost 24 hours after what appeared to be limited israeli response to iran's weekend attack it's the latest on both great teammates trust each other. we're going to do a trust falls, stand up, you close your eyes. i'll see before trust what you suddenly up doc i told you it was a dummy that smell could be 8
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breaking news a day after an apparent is really counter-strike against iran, a security official in iraq says five explosions occurred at a military base south of baghdad, belonged to a pro iranian group. >> however, moments ago and israeli official told cnn, israel had no involvement in the explosions, us central command, which oversees military actions in the middle east, also says it did not carry out strikes in iraq paula hancocks joins us now with the latest so what more do we know about these explosions in your baghdad? >> well understand this information came through to us just after midnight local time when the early hours of saturday and from a security source saying that there had been a huge explosion at a military base of the popular mobilization forces. now this is one of the bigger iranian-backed group within a rock. it's just south of baghdad& the babylon province. so we understand from that security source, there were about five explosions. it is an ammunitions death, as well. so
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this is the pictures that you're seeing at the moment. now, we understand there isn't investigation team on the scene. there has it's been material losses that have been injuries, at least three injured were hearing at this point, it's not clear though whether this was an accident or whether this was an attack. we don't know that at this point, but the very fact that we have had denials already just goes to show the tensions in this region at the moment anderson israel doesn't often offer these denials for this kind of incident, but the fact that an israeli official has felt that they have to say that israel was not involved in this. just goes to show the tensions of the moment. of course, it just comes hours after israel didn't carry out that retaliatory strike against an army base in iran as well. the us also saying that they don't have any involvement. so there are us troops in iraq at this point, part of this multinational mission to try
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and beat isis this pmf, this particular group has carried out attacks against, you us troops in the past, as i say, it's, it's one of the many groups you see in a rock that is a radiant backed. it's a trained iranian equipment's there as well. but at this point, we understand there have been at least three injured and investigations underway and a sample hancocks. >> thanks very much. tend to fall the story with any new developments again, to the point about tensions in the region. these explosions come moments a day after what appeared to be limited israeli retaliation to iranian strikes of the weekend. the strikes and the almost muted reply from iran today and seemed to signal the possible de-escalation. nic robertson has the latest in what we know ambiguity, not escalation iran's response to explosions in the sky near is for harm military base, several hundred miles south of tehran events under investigation heat
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nothing to see here as the objects were suspicious. >> and our defense system acted swiftly thank god, there were no major issues. >> satellite images exclusively obtained by cnn appear to support damage on the ground was minimal us officials informed of an unspecified israeli strike just hours before iran's air defenses went on alert in the early hours of friday, the secretary of state, drawing a line, trying to move forward. >> united states has not been involved in any offensive operations what we're focused on what the g7 is focused on. and again, it's reflected in our statement and in our conversation is our work to de-escalate tensions rawlins response anti israel rally, manifesting on the streets of tehran we're large crowds can only gather when sanctioned by the government another indication for now it's anger
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could take to shouting, not sending missile south as it did lost weekend approximately 350 drones cruise and ballistic missiles fired it israel following a deadly strike on the iranian consulate in damascus, almost three weeks ago mostly intercepted without major damage. >> bush on him or her the prime minister shunning allies calls the take the wind vowed to strike back on. now ambiguity deafening silence for ms officials, except for an illuminating online span hard-right cabinet member. it tamar ben gvir, posting on x lame quickly lambasted by centrist opposition leader yair lapid. never before has a minister in the defense cabinet done such heavy damage to the country's security. its unforgivable, much an onset. the stakes had appeared extremely high. iran's for a
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minister in the moments before the attack, promising instant devastating retaliation in nic robertson joins us now from drew some summing, there have been multiple different stories about what was fired and from where is there a sense of when or if we can get a clearer picture? yeah. i don't think so because number one is rho doesn't seem to be in the business of the moment of talking about it never mind even sort of breaking it down. is that level of detail of aircraft and munitions, that sort of thing. and the iranian sayyed really seems to be trying to sort of paper this over the idea that there's going to be an investigation, but no one was hurt and there were these objects that had caused them to switch on the air defense system in the first place. it doesn't seem as if there's any advantage at the moment domestically where they can claim nothing really bad happened and people are out on the street shouting about how bad israelis know the tensions,
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just exist and perhaps that underscores the fact that we won't know more. the way that ambiguity works, but it also still sort of leaves those tensions out there. the tensions still exist. the red lines are both israel and iran misinterpreted on each other sayyed about striking those are now blurred. and the stakes are just as high. i think as they ever were anderson. >> yeah. robertson in israel for us tonight, nick, thank you. i'm joined now by former israeli ambassador to the us, michael or an investor or i mean, it seems after last night strike events could be on a d escalatory path. do you think this explosion in iraq i mean, is it worrisome in that it could change the equation if there was a miscalculation or misunderstanding yeah. >> hi, good to be with the i just said there's always i don't think so. i think it's clear to israel was not involved in the iraqi explosion. it would be a very sharp turn from that longstanding israeli policy. we
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haven't struck back any rock, and certainly no shortage of iranian-backed militias in iraq, including iranian-backed militias. because we may have participated in last saturday faraj against israel. but it hasn't been israel's policy if anything, is really seeking to trick some kind of new relationship with iraq. it's a sunni arab country, despite the fact that these large shi'ite iranian-backed militias. and frankly, who could be responsible for that explosion, you could take a number, anything? thank from certainly americans who've wanted to take it vinge for the many, many attacks over 170 attacks that were launched at an american basis by these malicious, it could be isis, it could be any number of opponents that iran and its malicious have in the region. but no, i think israel sent that unequivocal message. it's an amide it's a big us message. no one's taking responsibility before. but i think i think it's been internalized by the iranians and that message is very simple. iran tried to smack israel with 350 projectiles.
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some of them larger than to take out entire neighborhoods. >> but couldn't do it but all of it, all iran israel allegedly has proven all of iran is vulnerable to israeli capabilities, well, in particular in terms of sending a message that the city, the the city were this strike took place in iran. there's a uranium processing facility there, as i understand it, which has a bowl in the iranian nuclear program that's not an accident. i would assume that that would be the city that whose defenses were penetrated in terms of sending a message probably there were number of nuclear facilities in the region. it's a nuclear rich environment. and i think you're absolutely right. i think that the alleged is strike we have to stress that this is just not taking responsibility is sending that message to there's really nowhere in iran that is in vulnerable to
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israeli abilities including these nuclear sites i'm wondering you heard in nic robertson's report that israel's national security minister posted the slang term meaning week are lame on social media, presumably referring to the strikes i mean, we know the cabinet is obviously very divided. >> there's these hard right figures. what does it say to you about the level of disagreement, right now in that cabinet? >> well yeah, there's disagreement in the cabinet. i think that the ministered bank mirrors posting was totally indefensible irresponsible and dangerous. i would stress that is really it's trying to de-escalate here and setting the message that we want to retain. the regional alliance that emerged after last saturday night moderate sudo city-states standing basically shoulder to shoulder with odds against iran and the united states, great britain, and france also standing shoulder to shoulder, us to maintain all
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of that. and yet send that message to iran. i think it was exceeded threading any number of needles. it was very impressive and along comes this internal security management stewart and threatens to unravel very, very dangerous. but there are differences of opinion. there were reports and israel that actually some of the more moderate ministers in the government, benny gantz, gadi, eisenkot were part of the national unity government or from the opposition party were in favor of a much more robust response at one that can immediately on the heels iran's attack on saturday night. but that was turned down by the by prime minister netanyahu in consultation with president biden. so there are many dynamics here, and it's really even public opinion was divided about the degree and the extent and the immediate see with which israel should have responded to that iranian non-slav but i think it's done. i think that i think the majority of israelis would agree that this was a prudent
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response. if in fact there's rebidding, michael jordan forming israeli ambassador with us. thank you so much. just ahead, breaking news, a foreign aid bill with billions for ukraine and israel has passed a key procedural hurdle. now, speaker mike johnson, who helped engineer the deal faces the threat of losing his job as congresswoman marjorie taylor greene declares there's a civil war in the house more in that ahead supplemental riyad say's new album is breaking records pain means pause on the things you love brene me go cool the pain with bio free and keep on going bio freeze green means go look at all no snacks. i did just pay 60% less for my ticket with the gametime app. it's the best place to get last-minute deals on tiktok, i guess i'm
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congresswoman's response. the vote today on steve bannon's podcast as we have completely lost confidence in his leadership now that he is allowing hakeem jeffries and chuck schumer to completely control the house. >> basically save as civil war has broken out in the house of representatives we all need to be asking the most concerning question, what has mike johnson made a deal? ledoux, what has he promised he will give them in the future. and this is why we have to remove mike johnson from the speakership because he has made a deal melanie, zanona joins us now from capitol hill with the latest on the threat to johnson's speakership. so what is the state of play between johnson, marjorie taylor greene, and company? >> well, anderson, this is shaping up to be a real showdown between speaker mike johnson and his right flank. and it could really all come ahead, come to a tomorrow republicans are furious that johnson has had to rely on democrats out every step of this process to try to pass
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this package of foreign aid bills, including on some key procedural votes, which historically have always been done along party lines. and so that is renewed in sparked some new calls to oust johnson from the speakership today, a third republicans that's paul gosar of arizona announced that he was officially signing on to the motion to vacate this speakership now, for his part, speaker mike johnson has been defiant. he said he's not worried about losing his job, especially if it means doing the right thing. but just given the math and given the margins, it's likely that johnson is going to need to rely on democrats to help bail him out if this motion to vacate does come to the floor. >> and where did the democratic sen. because congressman ro khanna was on cnn the other night, said, even though he disagrees with speaker johnson and many issued, he'd seriously consider voting to defeat the motion to vacate yes. >> so democratic leaders have not yet committed to bailing out johnson, but behind the scenes, anderson, i can tell you there is a lot of interests in throwing him a lifeline and that is because democrats really appreciate the fact that johnson defied his right flank,
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put this package of critical foreign aid bills on the floor. there's also just a lot of concern about the chaos of yet another potential motion to vacate& the harm that could do to the institution long-term. a feeling certainly shared by many republicans as well. >> sure what happens next? >> so the house is going to vote tomorrow on these foreign aid bills that is likely to pass with the support of democrats. and then it's going to head over to the senate the timeline little less clear there. the senate is scheduled to be on recess this next week, so it's something they could pick up after the recess and president biden did say he would sign these bills if they come too his desk, but some of the things anderson that we are watching out for tomorrow are does marjorie taylor greene finally forced this floor vote on the motion to vacate. do anymore republicans get behind her? and importantly, as we mentioned, to democrat, step up and say, they are committed and willing to saving johnson's speakership. so just a lot to look out for here on capitol hill over the next 24 hours, sanderson will is unknown and thanks very much. so. what are those who know mike johnson
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best think about his abilities, his house speaker and the attacks from congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, gary tuckman visited his hometown for some answers in the small northwest louisiana town of denton, where speaker of the house, mike johnson and his family live. >> by now he and his wife, kelly well many people not so surprisingly, offer glomming a's u's above the speakers i think that he's very fair minded and he's led my god and he really tries to make his decisions according to prayer and his heart. >> and when you go elsewhere in johnson's congressional district, like it's biggest city, shreveport, you will hear similar vibes a great guy. it's got great moles and i think what he's doing is great. >> i think he's a good christian man. i think it's what our country needs and i trusting. >> and even from non-republicans, how my democratic, but you support i suppose i like my. >> so with that being said, what the speaker is louisiana constituents think of georgia congress when marjorie taylor
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greene trying to take them down, i think that there's different factions within the republican party that all have, you all want to be heard and i think that mike's doing a good job of managing all those different opinions. and i think marjorie taylor greene is just causing trouble does it anger you yeah, it does because i think that, you know, the last thing we wanna do is get back in situation where the houses is in turmoil and there's no leadership. >> what do you think of marjorie taylor greene, the congressman from georgia, trying to oust him as speaker of the house. >> i don't like it i don't i mean, once she do just like his stances on a number of things like funding for ukraine, for example, she doesn't want it so what do you think about that? >> i think we started helping them. i think we should continue helpful. >> i think she's making a big mistake promoting that she's not my favorite congressperson what do you think i'm so glad she's not my representatives. >> we go inside this office
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building downtown shreveport and meet with this man and the oil and gas business. a lot of things that are happening today in this country remind me what happened back in the 90s. >> it all you a slide el versa. hey chick is from bosnia and says he immigrated to the united states three decades ago in the midst of the sectarian war, which led to the breakup of yugoslavia, was a beautiful country. >> people were getting along a lot of good people in the divisiveness between politicians have caused a major war. and a lot of innocent people suffered in this office in this congressional district. we've talked to a lot of people, one and republicans and democrats to work together. and in this case, republicans and republicans, it's not good to be throwing, throwing up bombs at each other instead of just, let's work together and moving forward. >> andersson, this is like johnson's fourth term in congress. his first three election wins. we're not close his fourth when in 2022, he ran
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suddenly the numbers have grown from a couple here, possibly to ten, maybe 20 over by the tree line over there possibly coming in this direction this is already too close if they charge, it would all be over a torch light used to always be enough or they would bang pots and pans and now nobody wants to risk going soft. so they reach straight gunpowder usually the elephants just run button, but sometimes they charge. well it's us who have to run walsh says is