insulting on so many levels and it also feels insulting to patients who have come to make medical decisions thoughtfully. >> and in consultation with loved ones and after a lot of thinking and talking and decisions like this, essentially tell patients and they tell me as a physician that we are no longer seen as qualified to make these decisions on our own. and we are being required to run these decisions by politicians who are not medical providers. >> what is i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt, but the women who've been coming in the last few days as as this ban has been an approaching, what have you been hearing from women in the last few days? in. the last few days i mean, excuse me, the band goes into effect today. but in florida, there is a 24 hour waiting period, which means that you have to have two physician visits, at least 24 hours apart in order to obtain an abortion?

so for example, that means that if yesterday on tuesday, april 30, i saw patients who are exactly six weeks and zero days of pregnancy yesterday because of the 24 hour waiting period, we cannot provide them an abortion today because they are six weeks one day today so we are already seeing just the absolute distress and english this is causing people we had. so many conversations yesterday with patients redirecting them to care and other states. i firmly believe that this is human cruelty and moral injury and distress to me as a physician to my patients who know their body is better than any politician could dr. chelsea daniel's. >> we appreciate your time this morning. thank you for sharing your experience. >> we have a new arrow, cnn news central beginning right now are continuing to follow breaking news here we are watching live pictures right

here. this is i believe these are from overnight is are these live guys? these are overnight pictures from from ucla's campus. this is what was playing out. this morning, is just an absolute mayhem, if you will. it was wild night of violent clashes there. the nypd called in to the campus. we're standing by now to see what happened. this next. now that university of officials have declared the pro-palestinian encampment on that campus. they have declared it illegal. fights broke out overnight is we're showing you after that statement from the school's administration and counter protesters showed up la's mayor put out a statement this morning calling what took place? absolutely abhorrent and inexcusable unrest and chaos is engulfed and campuses still across the country, police confronting protesters at the university of arizona at two lane as well, just in the last 24 hours in new york, the nypd says there have now been over

200 arrests overnight as officers cleared out and took back that academic building. here's video of it. that academic building at columbia university were protesters had taken it over and seized it for some 20 hours we're standing by now this morning to hear from new york city mayor eric adams. he's expected to hold a press conference about all of this very soon, and sara sidner live at the scene at columbia university. i'm very interested to hear what the mayor has to say this morning. sarah yeah. >> in less than an hour, we will hear from the new york city mayor on what happened here last night. we know that there were about 100 protesters who were arrested both here on the campus of columbia after police stormed hamilton hall to move the protesters who had broken in and occupying the building with their pro-palestinian chance. they were taken out. so the building is at this point, secured by police for the very large police presence here

surrounding the building. now, with barricades that were up that we have not seen before. we are going to be talking to the student reporters who was on the ground. and inside of canvas and just a bit. but there is also an unfolding seen happening right now in los angeles on ucla please campus. that is where we find our stephanie ylim after overnight, there were clashes between pro-israeli protesters and pro-palestinian and protesters who were in that in canada, we saw some violence certainly breakout overnight. and now you've got a serious police presence on the ground. stephanie elam, what can you tell us they're yeah, sarah, it's definitely changed since i last spoke to you here mainly because the police have arrived. >> they've taking control of situation. we saw them push out some of the people who were protesting inside and they've set up this barricade here. you can see that there's a lot for of a heavier police presence

out here now what we can tell you though, is that for our overnight, there was may him on campus and the sense of that there were skirmishes going on. there were definitely little scuttled that were happening. we could see that happening there's video that we've been able to see from overnight where you can see it looks like people who we're going after the pro-palestinian encampment we're pulling away the barricades from them and trying to remove that barricade and just to explain again, the way the things have been set up here on campus it has been this barricade that was on the back end of where you're seeing right now on the back end of this, there's another barricade and then there is a walkway and then another barricade and there was some hired security that was in there that was basically trying to pull back these barricades overnight but there wasn't a police presence until after

1:00 a.m. or so on campus, we know that mayor karen bass came out and said that she had requested this, calling it a boring. what was it's happening here? we saw the chancellor also saying that what was happening here was unlawful and so this change of tone now and now you can see it's much calmed down. a lot of the people that were distinct any out here after they got pushed out, were remaining in this area. they have now love, they're playing loud music. we heard some chanting going on from inside of the pro-palestinian in cabinet. that is all ended at this point. so it's a much different tone, but they're still very many questions, sarah, about what change to cause this to happen overnight what was the catalyst that is still unclear and still unclear why was such a long time before the police presence was felt here on campus and to bring this time in procure much back down to where it is right now stephanie elam, i know you'll be watching this all day. >> thank you so much. for your good reporting out there and

giving us the scene on the ucla campus where overnight, as you mentioned, there were firecrackers grown. there was pepper spray, there was smoke and they're this violence, people holding things like pisces, matching people. we saw people. one of the pro-palestinian protests are being pulled out and eaten we saw all of this with the coverage from a helicopter over one of our local affiliates. i do want to talk to one of the people who was there joining me now, vincent door, he's political science phd students and a spokesperson for the palestinian pro-palestinian encampment. they're on ucla's campus. thank you so much for joining us. this morning. vincent can you describe what happens last night and how this blew up into a violent scene yeah what happened last night was an attack on our encampment by a zionists thugs that the university did nothing to stop. we have worn the university about the threats of rape,

death, threats against our students, physical harassment the release of rats on our encampment by zionists during the nighttime. and the university instead released a statement yesterday claiming that the encampment was the source of the violence. >> well, we know that actually every night zionists have come and harassed the encampment, harass students trying to peacefully call for divestment of the ucs endowment from corporations that profit off of the israeli genocide of palestinians we saw zionists grab our barricades and tried to rip them down zionists maced the majority of students in the encampment and the police that the university had hired a private security guards, scared and watched as this happened, despite us warning that you see repeatedly that this was likely to happen i won't ask you about a couple of things. one is, how do you know they're zionists. i know there's been

people who definitely we're pro israel but if you just give me some sense of how you know, they're zionists in secondly, what's the crowd different than what you were seeing throughout? the time that you all have been there at the encampment was there a different group of people that came up last night that you had not seen before? >> well, first of all, zionism means support for the creation of the jewish state in historic palestine, which is what these people do. they were exclusively supportive of israel. that's that is what is in it is and second of all, know, we've actually sent photos of many of the people who were here to the university administration and they still allowed them onto campus and to attack us using weapons such as pepper spray mace boards, bricks fireworks, not firecrackers fireworks were shot directly at students and exploded at ground level inside

the encampment. i think that's unacceptable. >> let, me, ask you this because there has been a lot of accusations is flying back and forth and there are people accusing the pro-palestinian protesters of being pro hamas. is that a fair assessment? >> no, we're here to call for an end to israel's genocide of palestinians and divestment to view season donut. i don't know why people are now trying to justify violence against students on university campuses i thought that the uc was supposed to care about the safety of its students. clearly, that's not the case, given that they allowed these people onto campus to attack us. again, for over three hours before anyone did anything. we only survived because of our bearing if we had not been holding them for three hours straight, being amazed having to rinse our eyes, which saline and bottled water we wouldn't be here right now. and i'm sure that the uc would be in a much

different situation if one of us were dead because of it can you give me a sense of you talked about how this kind of started that they were fireworks that were tossed into the encampment that people with pipes and boards, which we saw on camera or smashing into the folks that were in the encampment. we also saw someone who was dragged. it appeared dragged from the encampment and was kicked and beat do you have any sense of how that student is doing this morning and do you have any sense of who that student is we're not sure how many of our students are doing because so many of our students have had to be taken to the emergency room. >> but the reagan medical center in formerly asked us to take our students elsewhere. that is how much ucla has failed at students but yeah, it began with zionists crabbing are barrett question to you and you break down our barricades using weapons like pipes and boards and then fireworks

happened they were shot directly at us. five is ins and then these thugs maced and pepper sprayed students at a point blank range. while ucs hired security, watched i can hear the frustration in your voice with how there was no major security that intervene with their i do. >> lastly, when asking you you were makes to yourself, i am glad to hear. okay. i do want to ask you about the police presence. lastly, there are police on campus from multiple different from multiple different agencies. who are there. the university as you just mentioned, has said that the encampment is any legal encampment. so what will you do if police move in? what is your concern? >> we the lapd still has the legal obligation to declare our encampment and unlawful assembly and must give us warning to disburse. they've not done that yet. so we intend to stay vincent door. thank you

so much for taking the time to talk to us after being maced and and being sort of in the midst of virus last night and overnight, the encampment still there, the police are on the scene and the university has declared the encampment legal. and so we will see what has happened here. but you heard from vincent near the police have not yet made the statement that people need to disperse. we will keep up with you. we will keep up with what's happening on ucla and canada this is across the country, including here at columbia where there was a raid last night, were police went into hamilton hall and took the protesters who were occupying it out okay yeah does sound like that protest for dating suggests that in spite of all of this and everything that's happening, he doesn't really believe it. >> he'd suggesting that he doesn't believe that israel's right to exist as a jewish state. much more to cover with what's playing out of ucla. sara is covering everything for us out standing outside columbia university we're also watching this, this morning

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morning, women who are six weeks or further along in their pregnancies in florida, they face an entirely new reality. the state's six-week ban went into effect abortion ban went into effect at midnight. vice president kamala harris is traveling to florida today to ratchet up the biden campaign's efforts to draw a direct line between abortion bans today and donald trump. and they're trying to make sure voters see that across the country. just talked about florida in arizona, there's also action today. the state's senate could vote today to repeal that civil war era ban on all abortions. that law is expected to take effect as early as june 8, if the legislature doesn't move quickly joining us right now is someone who knows all too well. the real-world impact of these state abortion bans amanda's ross gay, she nearly died twice after being denied an abortion after learning that her pregnancy was not viable. all because of the new abortion

restriction in her home state? of texas. and she has become something of a surrogate for the biden campaign and speaking out on this very issue, amanda joins me now, amanda, thank you so much for being here you have told you have told your story. and i have heard your painful story many times but just to bring up to remind everyone, you found out that your pregnancy she was not viable at 18 weeks, i believe in texas law prevented you from getting an abortion. women in florida are waking up today facing this ban after six weeks and some women may face a similar reality to what you did. and the terrible things that happen to you after you were denied an abortion, what reality is that well, thanks for having me. >> i can't believe that this is our reality, to be honest with you many women don't know that they're pregnant at six weeks in this ban is just absolutely herring are we and it's terrifying and it's a result

of donald trump and his policies. >> and the longer his policies are in place, the more of these bands are going to be passed. we're seeing it all across the country and it's terrifying to me if he's reelected, this will be our national situation because of him and the policies that he supports. it's terrifying how i and many first came familiar with you and your story was through, it was a very jareh was gut wrenching ad. >> it was a campaign ad. the biden campaign that you that you coordinated with the biden campaign on an app at the very end of telling your heartbreaking story, the ad ends with the words that flashed on the screen. donald trump did this. >> trump just did this new interview with time and he was asked about his position on abortion. >> he refused to entertain the question about whether or not he'd be two a federal abortion ban because he says it should be left to the states. and then he said this. he was asked by a reporter, amanda, are you comfortable? >> if states decide to punish women who access abortions

after the procedure is banned, donald trump responds, i don't have to be comfortable or uncomfortable. >> the states are going to make that decision. the states are going to have to be comfortable or uncomfortable, not me in part of what he's saying there, amanda is. he says this is not on him. >> what's your reaction i mean it's ridiculous, right he's he's endorsing what happened to me. he's endorsing people who seek abortions, getting punished for seeking health care, and we know that this is a result of him because he elected the supreme court justices that allowed the fall of roe v. wade that put the rights back in the states who are making these insane draconian laws like the ones in texas and florida and arizona. this this is his fault and he continues to endorse these crazy bands by saying that this is, this is how it should be the state's shouldn't be able to make these decisions when he

says he has, he really avoided despite multiple questions from this report or with time to take a position on whether or not he would veto a nash tional abortion ban if it came across his desk. >> if congress passed it, he says, well, it's just not going to happen in this, isn't up to me to decide does that i don't know. does that bring you comfort? do you believe those words? what do you say to them no, of course it doesn't bring me comfort. >> i don't believe it. he also failed to say whether he would protect ivf he's talking out of both sides of his mouth because he knows that this is a critical issue. it's it's one of the key issues of this election and he knows that most americans do not support the policies and bans that he has previously endorsed, that he continues to endorse you know, he he's he's trying to walk back things that he knows or an ocular and all you have to do

is look at his track record which speaks for itself. >> he he will endorse a national abortion ban has already told us that. and who knows how much farther he'll he'll go beyond that i'm after what happened to you in 2022, do you have any you and your and your and your husband, you started sharing your story. you become you became this lead plaintiff in the lawsuit against the state of texas. and you've now become something of a surrogate for the biden campaign on this issue. i gather you weren't entirely is active or political before all of this happened what does it been like being basically part of the campaign, going to battleground states and speaking out and meeting with people and telling them your story over and over again. >> it's a good question and you're right. i was definitely not envisioning this for my life in any in any shape i was always interested in informed and politics, but i definitely wasn't as active as i am now, but because of what happened to me and because of what i know is happening across the country

to pregnant people all across our country. this has become the most important thing in my life. and so the opportunity to campaign for president biden and vice president harris is so important to me, it's been so encouraging, so motivating i've met both the president and the vice president he are warriors for reproductive freedom which is so important to me. and it's why i continue to do this work because there is people are saying this is the most important election of our lives. and i really believe that it is the most important thing to me this year to make sure that we liked president biden and vice president harris amanda's or i'll scape. >> thank you for joining us this morning john. all right. in a revealing and important new interviewed, donald trump says what he thinks was the biggest mistake of his term in office being too nice lactate

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right. >> i mean, it is pretty significant, john, because since the trial started, we really haven't seen much of donald trump, at least on the campaign trail. part of that wasn't entirely his fault. he did want to hold one rally the weekend before last in north carolina, but that was canceled at the 11th hour due to severe storm weather, but luck, donald trump has wednesday's, saturdays and sundays to be hitting the trail and his team had to consistently told us that they were planning to use because those days too aggressively hit the ground and campaign, but we haven't seen that yet. this is really the first rally he is holding since his trial began. so that's very significant. look, he's going to be in wisconsin. i'm here in waukesha. you can see the crowd behind me started to gather here. doors will open later today and then later he's going to be speaking and michigan and these are both very critical battlegrounds that his campaign and his advisers have told me they are characterizing as must win in order to win the white house ahead of november. now, part of what he's going to be focusing on today in both of his

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in large numbers stormed to hamilton hall to take out pro-palestinian protesters who had broken in an occupied that building dozens of people well rested here in two lanes. >> swat teams have gone in and there has been a rumble on that campus and then all the way to the other side of the country. in california, in los angeles, there is a large police presence at ucla at this hour. we are watching police in riot gear there on that campus after violence broke out on that campus overnight with fireworks being thrown into the pro-palestinian encampment from those who support israel. there has been clashes. we have seen a student beaten. we have seen people holding all kind all manner of things like boards and pipes to try and get the protesters out of that encampment. now that's that is two groups that have nothing to

do with the police. now the police are on campus and the university has declared there at ucla, they have declared that that encampment is illegal. we just spoke with a student who said they have not yet i've been told by the police that they must disperse, which is something they have to do legally, but we will be watching that scene very closely. meanwhile, here on the columbia campus, we are hearing from two professors who i just spoke with, who are telling me that some of those students and some of the people who were inside of hamilton hall occupying it as pro-palestinian protesters, have been now released from jail. some of them they said had lacerations and bruises that they are treating themselves with volunteer medics outside here in new york, but we you do understand that some of the people who were inside of that hall have now been released from jail after being arrested overnight, about 100 people arrested overnight. between columbia university here in new york and city college as well. there is still a large paris police presence surrounding columbia at this hour, and we'll be watching all of this

all throughout the show, john. >> all right, sara, thank you very much. >> knew this morning a six-week abortion ban takes effect in florida this morning we have a new scene and pull out just this morning that shows that in states with some kind of a gestational limit, either six weeks or 15 weeks on abortions almost two-thirds, say those bands are too restrictive with us this morning, cnn's senior data reporter, harry enten, that's in states with restrictions as we look toward the election. and we talk about important states, swing states in the election. >> what does the polling show? yes. so let's take a look at states that will or may have an abortion measure on the ballot, say abortion should be legal. and arizona and 59% believe that abortion should be always are mostly legal in nevada. it's two-thirds, 66%. now in florida where all the news is developing this morning, 57% of registered voters say that in

fact, abortion should be legal up to 24 weeks. now, why is that 57% important? because in florida, in order for a ballot measure to pass, you need 60% of the vote. so even though the majority here believed that abortion should be legal up to 24 weeks, the fact is that may not be enough to enshrine abortion rights in the state of florida. because again, you need at least 60% of the vote to do so. if you are the biden campaign looking at these numbers for his important states, for them on the magically arizona and nevada, what do you see? >> yeah, you love the fact that abortion is in the news because would bind or trump do a better job. this is nationally look at abortion. biden leads on this measure by 14 points. it's by far his best issue. the economy trump please immigration. trump leads foreign conflicts. trump leaves and even on preserving democracy, which has obviously been a focal point of the joe biden campaign. he only leads on this, you buy this issue by four points. so abortion being

in the news is something that joe biden wants because it's the issue that he runs most ahead of donald trump on what to the polls. >> now i'll say about how important the abortion issue could be in voting. >> yeah, so all right. you see this 14 point lead for joe biden, but will abortion be important for votes, for folks and they're voting patterns. so in our new cnn paul, abortion affect your vote for major offices, candidates must share your views only 23%, john, only 23% of americans say that candidates must share your views and abortion. so even if they agree with joe biden, it doesn't necessarily mean they vote for him and more than that, john, when we look at the top issues, the nation's most urgent issues, look, we're abortion is on this list. it's all hello, way down at 5%. the issues that are at the top of this list are immigration and the economy, which a coarser donald trump's last-ditch democrats are convinced that a borse them help them do well in the 2022 midterm elections, it's interesting to see if

maybe something's not showing up on the polling. but right now, it's not showing up, but it is not john as a driving issue, harry, thank you. thank you. much let's take this all together. >> let's get some perspective politically joining us right now, a cnn political commentator and democratic strategist, maria cardona and cnn senior political commentator, republican strategist, former trump campaign adviser, david urban. let's just jump in to recap very briefly what we just heard from harry and john, because the numbers are interesting. one here, what it means though for strategy this abortion is the issue that joe biden runs most ahead of donald trump on 23% though, of voters polled say that the candidates must share their views on abortion. that's saying that they could agree with biden on the issue, but still not vote for him. and the top issue amongst voters in terms of top issues, abortion is at 5% in terms of voters who are saying it's their top issue. >> you see that you would you would do what with strategy

regarding reproductive rights right now? i would make it front and center. it doesn't mean at the expense of all the other issues, kate, but hearing this discussion just now between john and harry, i just got deja vu from 2022 all over again and i guarantee you that there is something that is absolutely not showing up in this polling that also did not show up in the polling for 2022, which is what allowed so many people to talk about this massive red wave that never appeared. and frankly, abortion being on the front pages is something that is going to help democrats because it's something that republicans have not learned their lesson on. clearly, women believe that they should have bodily autonomy women believe that they do not want their daughters to grow up in a country where their daughters will have less rights than they do. women believe that women should not be treated as second-class citizens with all of these extremist spans,

including the one that's going into affect today in florida, which should practically be a full all out banned because as you know, a lot of women don't even know they're pregnant by six weeks. so the majority of american women and the men who loved them believe that republicans are going for the rights of women and women are going to go for republicans in the fall. >> one thing is worth repeating. i have said it before, and it is it is not a talking point when you say most women do not know they were pregnant? i did not. with one of my daughters. i did not know i was pregnant until i was seven and weeks and it was it was it was it was a total surprise right. >> let's okay. david, bring blood, focus in on florida on this issue the vice president is headed there today trying definitely trying to draw a direct line between florida's ban and donald trump. >> you have the six-week ban going into place. we have everything that maria just said. and you also have i want to play for you. we heard from an abortion provider, a doctor in florida, who spoke with john

last hour. let me play this the demand goes into effect today, but in florida, there is a 24 hour waiting period, which means that you have to have two physician visits, at least 24 hours apart in order to obtain an abortion. >> for example, that means that if yesterday on tuesday, april 30, i saw patients who are exactly six weeks and zero days of pregnancy yesterday because of the 24 hour waiting period, we cannot provide them an abortion today because they are six weeks one day today. so we are already seeing just the absolute distress and english that this is causing people that's reality, right? how worried about you about what this means for republican candidates, including donald trump well, look, it's obviously a tragedy for people who have to face these issues in real life. >> but as harry pointed out, the numbers if you, look down the list, abortion is and i know maria doesn't take you

know, she she has a different opinion on this, but abortion was way down there, wade, the bottom, and even people who, who thought it was an issue, only 23% said they'd vote that was solely should they'd be voting on the economy and the border were much, much higher, much, much higher. so it's the only issue, really the only issue that the biden harris administration has to run on. and so it's not a surprise that that's there gonna be out beating the drum on it because it's the only jerome they have to beat. they're trying to say, look at the shiny spoon over here, don't pay attention instead of the economy don't pay attention to the border crisis, don't pay attention to crime, don't pay attention to all the other things that are facing your life. we want you to pay attention to this abortion issue and they're going to shout it loudly and repeat it often because it's the only thing they have we're at today. so go ahead, maria. go ahead i was going to say so here's a problem with what david is saying what when you treat abortion as this, when

you treat abortion as this kind of side issue that is not that important, that is incredibly insulting to women who feel like republics against are taking away their rights and freedoms and they feel that way because republicans are taking away their rights and freedoms. >> and so again, i have spoken to so many republican women, david, who say, you know what, maria, the economy. yes. i'm worried about the economy, but guess what? i can hold two issues in my head that are important. the economy is it's coming back. the economy will continue to come back. my rights will not come back if donald trump and republicans take them away, republican women november not democrats not progressives, republican women who have told me, i'm gonna vote for the democrat. i'm gonna vote for joe biden. i'm not even going to tell my husband about it because i believe in a country where meet my daughter, my granddaughter, my nieces should not have less rights than what i had growing up. >> emory, i'm not trying to solve it, but i'm just reflecting the numbers that

harry put up on the board. i'm just you know, what's wrong. >> these are just the fact. well, there's just the facts. i'm not trying. it's salt anybody i'm just giving a recitation of the facts were just presented to us i'm just dealing a reality. i'm not trying to you know, attack anybody or minimize anything. i'm just trying to you know, harry put up the facts and i'm discussing the facts that harry presented to us, the political reality is right political reality that we're talking about, right here also colliding very much so with the he reality that is hitting, hitting people, families, women in florida. and we're talking and other states today showing very clearly that this is, this political issue is one that will continue throughout the next six months and will continue to see what happens. and we'll have you guys on. thank you both. >> john. >> all right. the criminal case against donald trump, what is the one thing the prosecution has left to do to make its case in front of the jury

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donald trump on the campaign trail today, back in court tomorrow, charged with falsifying documents to cover up hush money payments to an adult film actress. >> so the judge in the case found trump in criminal contempt for violating the gag order in the case with a $9,000 fine, and he warned that trump could face jail time if he does it again and there will be a hearing on even more alleged violations tomorrow with us now seen senior legal analyst, former federal and state prosecutor, elie honig, the bureau chief of our tuczyn bureau. elie. i want to start with where we are in the case in some of the exchanges we saw yesterday between the prosecution and key date davidson, who was the lawyer who represented a karen mcdougal and stormy daniel's and negotiated their hush money payments. this is the prosecutor steinglass did you ever believe michael cohen was going to be the ultimate source of the funds? we have a graphic for this. davidson responds, never, never prior to funding, no. steinglass, the prosecutor

says, even after he said, i'll just do it myself. where did you understand the money would be coming from? the defense objects. objection. the judge overruled davidson the witness says from donald trump or some corporate affiliation thereof, if you read along, it makes a lot more sense. >> elie might the question to you is, what is it that the prosecution has accomplished so far in what do they have left to do so john, that's actually a perfect excerpt to illustrate this point, which is the prosecution has done a very good job thus far of laying the foundation of explaining to the jury who is who, what the lines of communication were, what the transactions were. but the challenge and i think this excerpt really nicely illustrates this is tying it all back to donald trump himself because the jury's heard a lot about negotiations between, for example, on the national enquirer side, david pecker and dylan howard on the stormy daniels and karen mcdougal's sayyed, you have

mr. davidson who you just read the excerpt from it in the middle of it, all, you have michael cohen, but what they need, the prosecutors need to do is drive home that donald trump knew about all this stuff hello, trump knew about these details. and so it's fine for keith davidson in the excerpt you just read to say, my understanding was this was all going back to donald trump. it's another thing to actually prove it. and the way they're going to have to prove that primarily is through michael cohen. >> it look, we have one more exchange and i think illustrates the same point you're making. this is steinglass, the prosecutor saying, did you no, when you were dealing with michael cohen, that you were dealing with donald trump, heat davidson says, yes, i never thought otherwise. so you have as you point out, keith davidson saying this was his understanding how will the prosecution prove more than that? will it just be michael cohen who says it? and how much does he have to say so i think the prosecution is hoping to do this in two ways. >> of course, they're going to rely on michael cohen and a key question from michael cohen is not going to be just did donald

trump? no, you weren't negotiated with stormy daniel's. i think that's clearly got to be a yes, but how much of the details did he know? because the details is where the crime sits, the structuring and the financing behind the payment. that's the actual crime here, which is falsifications of business records, which leads me to the second way prosecutors are going to want to prove this. they don't want to just have michael cohen's word. they want to back him up. and so if they have ledgers, invoices, notes, emails, memos, texts, we've started to see a few of them in the trial thus far, that backup michael cohen. that's gold for prosecutors. they're going to want to say, folks, you don't need to just rely on michael cohen's word. you can rely on michael cohen's word as backed up by the documents to what extent are you expecting some kind of you're right. i did order the code red moment here. i'm obviously dealt. donald trump won't be on the stand, but will there be a document that needs to definitively show that donald trump knew? >> i don't think there needs to be or will be a document

where donald trump says, for example, okay, michael, go ahead and finance the payment to stormy daniel's, so we make it look like attorney's fees. i mean, maybe if donald trump was an email or a texter, but perhaps to his benefit, he's not and this isn't sort of lead lesson in real life trials. doubt it not like tv, it's not like a few good men. a lot of times prosecutors build cases in ways that are methodical. and i think the prosecutors here are doing that, not without any flaws, but you build methodically and you don't have a code red moment, but you can still prove your case if the evidence adds up we love the codered moments from tv. hang on one second. la, new york city mayor eric adams is speaking about the situation at columbia. let's listen that the war should have been a peaceful protests it has basically been co-opted by professional outside agitators we were extremely cautious

about releases, releasing our intel information because i'll go with swish sure. >> the safety of our students faculty, and without any destruction of property and we are here today to update new yorkers about the ongoing situation at columbia university protect students, staff in the public and we were well aware based on a series observations that what should have been peaceful protests that is part of the constitution rights of americans has clearly been co-opted right which this

administration supports in fence to voice your concern but we have also will continue and we have sounded the alarm numerous times before about external actors who attempted to hijack this protests. >> tonight. >> we're here to show you some example of these external actors who have no no affiliation with columbia columbia university as well as some of our other educational facilities what's happened all right so we are on just off of a columbia university day and you're seeing behind me that is hamilton hall, where police stormed in for many different vant