that china will switch from the supply of such technological goods to a certain extent to the direct supply of military goods to russia, i.e. weapons, is china ready to actually take such actions? it seems to me that china is not yet ready for such a thing, because it will be associated with a serious complication of relations with the united states of america and with the european union, it will be something that is already in the red line, but after all, that is why, or rather, blinken and other european leaders talk about the inadmissibility of this aid, for today it preemptive talk for china so that he does not do this, for now, for now we will think that it is enough for china, and its personal interests from in on in the american market, in western technologies and ... still keep

moderate relations with the west the world, with the americans, as well as certain personal risks, they will be such a serious deterrent, well, plus obviously, it's also important that the world is really feeling the negative consequences of this war right now, and china is among those countries that we see are interested to stop the conflict. it's another matter, we already are they spoke, on what terms, they are not, not pro-ukrainian, unfortunately, nevertheless, discomfort from the conflict, and china, in particular, was emphasized by scholz, because he said after the visit that many countries that are friends with russia, they are not satisfied this war, they are not satisfied with this war, obviously, because of the global consequences, because of the impact on the economy and because of... how do you think

the rivalry between the united states and china in the asian-texas region affects the whole situation, because we we see that congress will deal with aid today not only to ukraine, israel, but also to taiwan, other asian-texas allies of the chinese people's united states, the people's republic of china, in its turn, shows an obvious initiative to somehow drag the allies of the united states into its own. minister of foreign affairs vanya was in indonesia, today he is in planned guinea, where the americans would like to have their real military capabilities, he has already held talks there with justin takachenko, the minister of foreign affairs of this country, that is, these are their clear, i would say, such attempts, even those the countries of the pacific region, which are trying to cooperate with the united states, to pull their side, how can the americans counteract this, well, the americans have really created a bar for china, especially recently... we are observing such

a partner bar, so to speak, because biden managed to establish relations between korea and japan and create this triangle that actively interacts, last week japan, the philippines, the united states also agreed to interact, there is also alkus, there is kwat, and accordingly, china feels that the united states covered them with such cliques, china calls it, and of course it is... and is trying to advance its counter-countermeasures, and you named there those countries that china is trying to attract to its side, well, it is not difficult for it, because economic interaction with these countries, it gives certain trump cards for china, however, as regards, let's say, indonesia, this is a country that is known for its non-alignment policy, and rather interaction with the united states. both in indonesia and

in many countries of the asia-pacific region, it is the desire to establish a balance in confrontation between the united states of america and china, because these countries in the region, they very often show, both vocally and by their actions, that they do not want to choose a side and that they really do not like the fact that this tension is flaring up between the united states and china, which can grow into something more in their re'. accordingly, this policy is more about balancing than, for example, about creating some alliances that will oppose the united states of america there, or will be directed, for example, against the united states of america, especially since china behaves quite aggressively, and he has territorial disputes with the same indonesia as well, because he claims an economic zone that belongs to indonesia, just a country.

region, and malaysia, let's say, and the philippines, until now, until they clearly sided with the united states, but there is a different story, they have a bilateral treaty. all these countries try not to oppose china due to the fact that they do not have such power to oppose it, accordingly, economic interaction, well, is what helps to preserve peaceful relations, and get certain benefits from this interaction. ms. natalia, thank you. nataliya plaksienko butyrska, expert on east asia, master of foreign policy. we have a short break. and in a few minutes we will come back to you and talk with vitaly portnikov on all the most important topics of this week. damn,

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by football, together stronger, we are returning to the live broadcast, the saturday political club and... now we will talk with vitaly portnikov, as i already said, about the main topics of this week. so, mr. vitaly, the main topic is that we still have... the kind of vote that is currently in the house of representatives, right now the vote is taking place, in fact the first amendments are already being considered, there are four of them in total, if i am not mistaken, that we expect, we are 100% sure that there will be aid to ukraine, that others will be voted bills, at least there to support israel, so is your point, i think so. i don't see any reason right now for that not to happen for the simple reason that we

've seen the procedural vote numbers and they 've been over 2/3 there, there's a bipartisan majority, so it's just a matter of waiting, waiting to see how it plays out the vote on all three of these bills proposed by the speaker will literally be in the next few hours, well at least there is no reason to believe that this is somehow will fail according to uh all the observers who are dealing with the congress right now, well it should be as it was planned before it was brought up to the house of ee representatives, and by the way, there might be another rather interesting situation that the senate might to vote already tomorrow, well, it will also be very serious then. and because we're getting this aid sooner than we could have gotten

the previous one, so that's also a very important point, and what happened, why johnson, trump, a whole bunch of republicans who, relatively speaking, opposed the aid aid to ukraine, or blocked it, that is, we remember what is being blocked. de facto aid to ukraine, not only ukraine since october last year. what happened in the last two weeks, why there was such a radical change of approaches and a radical change of thoughts of the same johnson. i think that this could be a real understanding of the mood of voters, including voters of the republican party. it is connected not only with ukraine, it is connected with israel, we

talked with you when there was an attack by iran on israel, that now help will be delayed much more difficult, you say about two weeks, but when the attack happened, we were in the studio exactly a week ago, by the way, and an hour after the end of our broadcast was actually, the week of last saturday, yes last saturday. and in fact from that moment on, of course, because it became clear that if the republicans failed this test, they could lose a lot of important votes, you know, while there was a war in the gas sector, uh, you could drag it somehow, israel and so can argue, and themselves the united states does not want an intensification of hostilities, here is a situation where israel has to actively defend itself, say, from the next attacks, it may need money for an air defense system, for those guns. and the republicans say no, let's not vote for all this, it's general aid in general, not only to ukraine and israel, it's

aid in general, like money, what donald trump is talking about, we don't want to help them, because we have there are american problems, but he does not single out a special ukraine, he is a general principle, if we we give money to someone, let them give it back, and by the way, thanks to this statement, we have a 7.5 billion loan in this ukrainian legal profession, but it is clear that they could no longer. afford the luxury of dragging it out for a long time, and this attack, it changed the situation quite seriously, well, besides, you understand, we may not fully understand these people, here i mean johnson, here is mike mccaul, the chairman of the committee on foreign affairs affairs, a republican, by the way from the state of texas, he said as we discuss this vote, every congressman should ask himself, i chamberlin or churchill, that is the question. and so everyone understands this, johnson also understands this, if he does not risk anything in particular,

he sees that this situation will seriously affect the course of military operations, that it will be against his values, and at the same time he saw that he will not be dismissed, that trump supports him, because trump needs him now. that the conservatives in the republican faction have no desire to set the procedure for his vote, they talk about it, but do not do it. that the democrats they say they won't vote for it, why would i even change the rule that the speaker can be removed on the motion of one or two congressmen, well here's a quote from johnson: my son is going to the naval academy this fall, it's a challenge for me, as well as for representatives of many american families, this is not a game or

a joke, we cannot play politics, we must do the right thing and... i will give the opportunity to each member of the house to vote according to his conscience and will, i will give the opportunity to vote by and large, it is only about this, to give an opportunity to vote, the speaker no longer decides how the congressmen will vote, they can vote against, he gives them the opportunity to express their position, this is the frequency of his conscience as the speaker of the house of representatives, and that's why such congressmen are so mad. our great heroine, because what she says, what she writes, what she proposes, in general, is very strange, very strange, because they understand that there is a stable majority in this situation, and this majority this is the main thing we have in

voting for each, for each of these bills, well, including that we have to... that actually a large number of republicans supported this aid to ukraine, that is, not just a minority supported it, but the majority, and by the way, here are the minutes minute there will be a vote for aid to ukraine in the congress, in the house of representatives, that's why we're seeing it now, by the way, you're watching the vote, it's 83. this is the peace through force law, this law comes from the assets of these, as it's called, russian assets can be confiscated, that's where it can to be banned from tiktok, 360 congressmen in total, 186 republicans and 174 democrats voted for this bill

80 e. 38, so it is still very important for us to see how the next bills will be voted, now we are also talking about this, by the way, this is the first of four , which is relevant, yes, because there will be four separate draft laws in total, and the first one, we saw, has already been voted on, this, by the way, is symptomatic, it means that with almost 100% probability, other draft laws will also be voted on, i.e. the next it will be to help israel, and the third one, if i'm not mistaken, is to help ukraine, so we, well, we can now follow this vote with a vote, how it will look, this is, as far as i understand, the next will be a vote now, as i understand it, 8:30, it's

a ukrainian law, we can follow it live, it's a law, no, it's not a ukrainian translation. but now we 're going to see all the bills, this is bill 836 about money for allies in the indoocean region, we 're going to see it, 5 minutes, by the way, the congressmen have to vote, to press for or against, and when 5 minutes pass, then there will be the next draft law, which most likely... will already concern ukraine, so we are watching, well, in fact, in fact already, if you look, then already, then already the majority is there, and now it will be, but be careful, the interesting thing is that you see, so far in this law on the innotechokean region, i'm just curious what the party majority is in each draft law, you see,

it's all adopted by an overwhelming majority of votes, practically. the absolute majority is bipartisan, you see, there are practically no democrats who are voting against, huh, and the republicans are, yeah, well, all, practically, not that it's already 2/3, more than 2/3, will be the most important moment for us, so what are we waiting for, we'll see, i think all these four laws to be. there are literally a few minutes left, i wanted to remind you that this may remind you, dear viewers, of the atmosphere of a football match, but this is not a football match, because the lives of our defenders depend on this money, and

the lives of your own lives depend on it, so that this is an air defense system, this is money for improving the ukrainian defense, this is what we are seeing now, this is a very important moment for everything that we... generally perceive as the future of the ukrainian-russian confrontation, well, there are literally two minutes left, and by the way, when we were talking a few a few minutes ago about the fact that the majority of republicans, no matter what, they supported these bills, they all said, they just had to say yes about the fact that you said that there was actually a minority, that minority, got trampled. or the most ultra ultra right, ultra-conservative, as they are called, they are, we will actually see them now, what is their number, relatively speaking, 33, 33, well

, 17 more did not vote, well, somewhere up to 50 people, and in general, republicans practically vote like democrats, but it is interesting me too, who and why are the republicans, they have always traditionally supported taiwan, they believed, as did the president. trump that china is the main threat of this whole story, why don't they vote for er aid to taiwan, it's a strange story, right? well, here is the main news now, you see, andrei in the russian newspaper izvestia. the us house of representatives passed a bill on the confiscation of frozen assets of ukraine. on the bark of russia in favor of ukraine, so, as you can see, we are not the only ones who are closely following this vote, our russian neighbors know that their money is now, how should

i say it, by the way, interestingly, this will be a precedent, it is actually will be an impetus to other states, because many states have said, listen, look, the united states of america does not vote, the united states of america does not confiscate, neither do we we will not confiscate either, in this case we now see that the united states of america has actually set an example, and we can expect similar actions now, including from european partners, finally, because in fact they have the most money, the most russian frozen funds is on the territory of the european union, there we are talking about tens of billions of euro-dollars. therefore, therefore, of course, this will be a good example for other states to join in, and accordingly, this will mean that quite

maybe we will have additional support so that we can fight against the russian aggressor in the future, well, the law is passed, 385 votes in favor, it's not even 2/3, it's 3/4, even 75%. we are expecting the next law from minute to minute, it will already be a law for ukraine, as far as i understand, it will be announced now, after the results of this legislation are announced, you see that it is not the speaker who announces these laws, the whip, so to speak, now a new law is being announced, as i understand it, a new law will be announced, this

there will be a law on additional allocations for aid to ukraine, here it is, it is being announced now, that's what it's called, it's the law of 80'. if of course there will be no changes and

amendments. as far as i understand, so here it is, you see, we have a broadcast at such a historic moment, practically the past broadcast was also historic, in general, every time now , every saturday, we find all such key geopolitical events not just for ukraine, but for the world and the events that are happening now in ukraine, this is russia's war against ukraine, this is also a geopolitical event, well, yes, if we say that the speaker of the house of representatives of the american parliament can lose his position in connection with the aid to ukraine, then this is generally a matter of appearance, it is strange, however, from the point of view of the past, it was difficult to imagine how it would be, but now i understand, the question is there, as far as i remember, there were certain amendments, and they

can also be proclamations. is going to be announced now, we're seeing this ceremony happening in the house of representatives, we're seeing it live, and it's bill 835, it's a relief bill to ukraine, but it seems to me that this is a correction, a correction, yes spurs. that is, this is an amendment to the law to the law, now we will look, we see that the democrats are voting against, and even that, and even pay attention that the republicans are also in the majority, well mostly the majority and are now voting against, there were several amendments allowed to vote, four, yes.

so, we will now also see a vote on them, as far as i understand, the house of representatives will fail them all, it is already clear, but they are voted on faster than bills, so it goes literally fast for a minute, and you and i can watch these amendments being voted on, you know that ms. sparts, she's... right now she's opposing aid to ukraine, even though she's the first congresswoman of ukrainian descent to become a member of congress, she's a staunch supporter of donald trump, bye things, recently she wanted to leave the congress, but then she decided that she would stay, and here she made such an amendment that the vast majority of congressmen practically do not pass.

all republicans and half, all democrats and half republicans from this amendment from are scrambling, we see that the republicans are divided 50-50, that is, it is actually interesting, by the way, yes, if in the past the vote for the bill itself was essentially almost consolidated, now we see that they are actually divided. 50 to 50, so we will continue to watch, there are a few seconds left before the end of the vote on this amendment and most likely after it it has not passed , everything will be like this, now there will be a second amendment from the medzheller, so there will be a second amendment, by the way , you see that the house of representatives does not allow 155 references to the vote, they allow those that can really reasonably change the essence of the law, so you can't

just change the law there. well, as in, as in, as in our verkhovna rada, as they call it, amendment spam, yes, there is no such thing there, everyone knows it, now the second amendment is being announced, and this is also important, it has been announced, voting is now starting according to this second amendment, you see, in the second amendment, the presidium. chambers is the second amendment, uh, yes, yes, it's major taylor green, our, representative georgia, yes, the most i would say is that now there is a harsh criticism of aid to ukraine, but there is no way to pass this amendment at all, you know that among ms. green's amendments, let's say, replace all numbers of aid to ukraine with zeros,

that is, it's just a major game. taylor, he knows a lot about.