>> all right. it's not every weekend you find the house of representatives at work. they're trying for an aid package that will help not only israel, but ukraine, a little for taiwan as well. there are a couple of members in that republican ranks there that are not keen on the way the speaker is handling it. one of them thomas massie, the republican will be joining us, saying maybe it's time for the

speaker to pack it up. that's coming up. and in the meantime, to tel aviv and how they're responding to this. and that's in iran and might have escalated, and jeff with more in tel aviv. >> so far the period of calm between iran and israel appears to be holding for now, but tensions throughout the middle east region are very much still elevated and what happened just last night underscores that perfectly. this was in iraq. it was being described as an explosion on a base in central iraq utilized by a coalition of iran-allied militias. one person was killed and another eight were injured. u.s. military official tells fox news it had no involvement, the coalition of militias, saying the explosion was an attack and didn't blame any particular source. the blast happened a day after israel hit iran with a

retaliatory attack. and iran, at the moment appears to be downplaying the strike for now and perhaps signaling it's trying to move on. when you hear how some in the iranian military are describing israel's strike. >> you saw that the suspicious flying objects appear in our skies, they will not be spared from our defense. it was suspicious and acted safely. thank god there were no major issues. >> while iranian officials aren't saying much, some iranian citizens aren't hiding their feelings. this was the scene in tehran shortly after friday prayers, worshippers took to the street with some chanting quote, death to israel. back here in tel aviv there were been zero comments coming from israeli government officials and any israeli military officials regarding that strike in iran and as far as people who call this country home, they're going about their

lives as they normally would. neil. neil: jeff paul, thank you for that, be safe. let's bring in chad pergum and how is that going? >> they're on the ukraine bill and the house is debating bills for israel, ukraine and taiwan, but it took the democrats to put it on the floor. the republicans stumbled despite being in the majority so democrats bailed them out. >> generally in this body it takes the majority party to pass its rule and the minority party never votes for it, but this moment is no big that house democrats said, we're not playing politics with this. >> democrats helped the g.o.p. put the foreign aid plan on the floor yesterday, but some on the left opposed the plan for

israel. >> prime minister netanyahu has been reckless. his actions have not led to the release of the remaining hostages. he's ignored the pleas of the families of hostages. we should not be sending offensive weapons to israel right now and i hope that this body will not. >> the house likely passes each bill with a super majority of yeas and then the focus to marjorie taylor greene. it's unclear if she'll try to remove mike johnson from his job. some members are surrounding mike johnson. >> our standing in the world with our vote today. we can choose dishonor or choose to help friends oppressed by strong and malignant neighbors. speaker mike johnson has chosen honor and is to be commended. >> if green triggers her

resolution, they could vote immediately on killing or tabling the effort. democrats could protect johnson. at least three house republicans want a new speaker. green, ghost gosser of arizona and thomas massie from kentucky. neil: thank you. thomas massie is joining us now, and preferring to see the speaker leave, if he would resign, why? >> we would like to see him resign in the manner that john boehner did and give us a few weeks advanced notice and have a republican speaker in the chair and go about our business of investigations and hearings while we pick a speaker in our conference instead of letting that play out on the floor. why do we think he needs to go? he's about to commit his third betrayal today of the american public. the first was an omnibus bill that spent more than nancy pelosi, his second betrayal last week, reauthorizing fisa without letting us require

warrants for spying on americans, and he put his thumb on the scale on that. today we're going to see the third betrayal,'s going to give up all of our leverage to get any security at the border because he's going to shove schumer's bill through the house. neil: would it be any different if he went? you only have such a republican majority, three, four, five seatsment that won't change. the reality of that math won't be altered. >> we're worried about 2025, 0 we want to keep the majority. here is the problem. mike johnson is giving americans no reason to put republicans back in the maj majority. he's the uni-party majority. people know he's a lame duck, he'll lose his seat sometime this year. even if you were going to change the rules and hang onto power and form a coalition with democrats, he can't win speakership next year and frankly shall the donors aren't inspired to talk to a speaker

who is a lame duck. neil: are the donors any more inspired, or voters, with you and two years, doesn't that look like a keystone cop there and making it look more vulnerable. >> i think replacing mccarthy last fall was keystone cop. he was trying to fight on the border, but what we're trying to do is a more controlled version and basically to pick a better speaker. this speaker failed the republican congress. neil: do you have any names who might fit that bill. >> at least a dozen people to do the job. our problem with mike johnson isn't just what he's doing right now, but he's failed in every negotiation. when you go into negotiation with chuck schumer and you come back with nothing every time, you are either a poor

negotiator or you want what chuck schumer wants. in either case, mike johnson needs to go. neil: maybe you recognize the mathematical reality there's only so much you can demand when you don't have much backing, right? >> right, you need to demand something. he's demanded nothing. neil: all right, not a fan. well, i spoke to new york republican colleague of yours mike lawler on the show and this is the congressman earlier on, he's not a fan. >> this is a continuation of the crown show. now, when you look at the challenges facing our country, voters elected a house republican majority to govern, to serve as a check and balance on the biden administration. what is happening within our conference is undermining our ability to govern and hold this administration accountable. speaker johnson, like speaker mccarthy before him, is doing the right thing by putting

critical legislation on the floor in favor of the american people, and in favor of america's role in the world. neil: so, he's saying you're part after clown show. i wanted to give you the opportunity to respond. >> well, i like mike lawler, he's trying to get me kicked off the rules committee. i asked him to try harder because i've tried every day to get kicked off the rules committee. one thing we need to remind mike lawler, he led the effort to get rid of george santos. and i think that was a very unwise move and shrunk our majority and we saw that seat replaced by a democrat. i don't think he's got the best take of what we need to be doing in congress to keep a majority. neil: there's a difference between george santos and mike johnson, whatever your differences? >> the thing is george santos wasn't convicted of anything, we threw him out. i'd rather have a republican with a cloud over than a

democrat in that seat because it, frankly, the majority relies on it and mike lawler got rid of george santos. mike johnson was part-- mike johnson did nothing to stop that effort and i think that's another reason that mike johnson needs to go. neil: when you told him to his face this, to your credit you didn't do something behind someone's back. to his face, i think you should go. how did that go? >> when i told him to his face, this was in front of our conference in a private meeting and i'd same the same thing more or less to mike johnson two weeks earlier. of course it didn't go well, he didn't think he should resign, he says he's not going to. that's what john boehner said up until the day he resigned and i'd like to see mike johnson do the honorable thing like john boehner did and not put us in the lurch. mike johnson is the only one

that can prevent what happened last fall without a speaker. he can acknowledge he's a lame duck, doing things we don't want and acknowledging he's not the man for the job and announcing his resignation and give us notice so we can replace him in conference. neil: let me come back, it comes back to the aid package that's cobbled together i'm not on the rules committee and i don't understand the process fully. i want to ask you about aid outright. to israel it seems like you're for it, ukraine, you're not, right? >> yeah, and a lot of conservatives are struggling with that aid to israel and the overall package because in order to get this bill to the floor, mike johnson had to agree to put $9 billion for gaza and some conservatives here are afraid that some of that will make its way to hamas and you know, that's the nature of this aid. that's a big problem. and when it gets to the senate, the way they've structured the rules for this, they're not going to be able to separate

these things. it's going to be all or nothing. it's going to be money to ukraine and gaza, if you want to send money to israel. neil: thomas massie, thank you very much. let us now how the relations are going and what your next step might or might not be. the kentucky republican who is no fan of the speaker wants him forced out. and a certain general who is watching this closely because when it comes to aid to countries like ukraine and certainly israel, he says it's in our best interest to make sure that they get it. he's next. ♪(relaxing music)♪ (♪) (♪) (♪) (♪) (♪) (♪) book in the hotels.com app to find your perfect somewhere.

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>> you know, it is probably safe to say that a retired general is not much into talking politics and dramas played out on capitol hill. he's into life and death issues and things at stake right now, including aid for israel and ukraine and taiwan, that hangs in the balance of all of these

politics. try as i might to get him to try to talk politics, he never does. i gave up on that. and thank you general very much. you wrote an eloquent piece saying this is what's important and why it's important in the aid to the country. as you can see as it's playing out on capitol hill, not everyone agrees with you. why is it so important? >> well, neil, first of all, i think it's important to recognize that israel and ukraine are both engaged in fights that are directly tied to core u.s. interests and frankly, we need to do all we can to see that they prevail on those wars, if we don't, that will embolden our adversaries and dramatically increase the odds that america's sons and daughters will ultimately have to spill their blood. there comes a point where evil must be checke is that unfortunately, too many

understands don't understand that, nor is there awareness that o military has been in decline while our adversaries are growing in power. and you know, i don't think folks recognize. here is a good example. our u.s. air force today is the smallest, oldest and the least ready in its history. think about that. the b-52, the backbone of the free world's bomber force, just celebrated its 72nd anniversary of its first flight. neil: wow. >> while not as geriatric, similar could be found in every service. the world is on fire and it's woefully unprepared and getting that conversation this year. neil: you're getting that conversation and might not be the way you like. certainly among republicans who are open to aid for israel, not so much to ukraine, what do you

think about that? >> well, i think it's extraordinarily shortsighted. and the degree of ignorance, i don't mean that in a per g goreative sense. and the united states has faced the decisions before and done the right thing, the leaders of past eras stood on the side of right and today's leaders need to do the same thing. neil: but they're not. not all of them, but the protests popping up across the country at some of our elite institution, they call into question if israel is worth that sacrifice, that cost, that it comes at a tremendous sacrifice financially and morally, they say, to us. some are even waving pro-hamas signs as they walk in the

shadow of what used to be the world trade center. how do you feel about that? >> well, as we've discussed before, these protests are not accidental nor spontaneous, they're part of a concerted set of information operations crafted by our adversaries to create friction and discontent inside the united states. look, iran, russia and china have huge malign information efforts designed to capitalize on our freedoms of speech while at the same time, they control and suppress what's allowed to be heard and said inside their own countries. now, these u.s. university students and faculty participating in these extreme protests, frankly, are dupes and they're displaying gross ignorance of how they're being manipulated and in some cases, these protests inciting violence and the perpetrators

should be arrested and convicted as terrorists. i would remind you and our audience the first amendment does in the protect speech that incites imminent violence or lawlessness which some of the protesters have been engaging in. neil: general, i want to go back to israel and want your thoughts or what has gotten to be the sort of assessment, always dangerous, when that's accepted at face value. that israel's response was tactical, precise, surgical, sent a message to iran. not going to be any dust-ups, might be down the road with proxies, there has been for many, many years. the worst is over, that's the consensus building between those two countries, i'm not talking about israel's ongoing war with hamas. what do you think of that? >> neil, i think the israeli action this past week was a pretty well-crafted response. if we view it through a lens of deterrence, israel successfully

demonstrated its ability to defeat iran's mass aerial assault and that's an element of deterrence all on its own and then the limited strike, the israelis executed in response was calibrated to demonstrate their ability to strike inside iran while at the same time preserving their relationship with saudi arabia and others who seek to provide a counter weight to iran without open conflict. and what this course of action also did was preserve israel's relationship with the united states who urged restraint, and prevented a flareup of hezbollah on the northern border of israel. so israel satisfied the demands for response to iran's attack without opening a new campaign in an already complex conflict with iran's proxies. so i think the bottom line, israel's stronger today and iran is weaker, but don't think by any measure that this is the end of iran's long war against israel and the united states.

neil: general deptula, thank you very much and for your service to this country. thank you. >> have a great day. neil: general deptula on that. of course, you know the hush money trial for one donald j. trump on monday. he's politicking and precious little time to do so. karl rove on that weighing in. and i'm gonna' cashback on a few other things too! starting with the sound system... that's caaaaaaaaash. cashback like a pro with chase freedom unlimited. how do you cashback? hi, i'm david, and i lost 92 pounds on golo. i noticed within a week that the release supplement really knocked out my sugar cravings. i didn't feel the need to go to the store for candy, or go through the drive-thru after work. i feel so much better these days, and i have golo to thank for that.

>> all right. monday is the day when donald j. trump and that trial, that trial on the hush money trial begins. they've got their jurors all set. 12 individual jurors have been picked here so it's ready to go and of course, then, we've got the six alternates in case any one of them have to go. karl rove on what's at stake for the former president

because as i understand it, as long as it goes on six weeks or so, four days out of each week minimum, he's not on the campaign trail. >> the judge indicated he's not going to conduct business on wednesday so he can devote time to other cases under his purview. at best, donald trump will have wednesdays, saturdays and sundays to campaign. in a way it's big disadvantage, time is important in a campaign and getting to the battle ground states important for trump or biden for the election. on the other hand we'll pay a lot of attention to donald trump and in a weird way, he likes to do rallies. he didn't like to do 200 people sitting in an auditorium, or show up at a factory and tour. he likes the huge rallies. it's expensive and one thing his campaign didn't have, it's lots of money to put on four or five of these things a week.

so, he will be kept on the campaign trail-- i think off the campaign trail. i think the biggest thing is the wear and tear on him as a human being. this is really tough and it's not pleasant and i'm sure it's going to wear on him despite the fact he's an energetic guy. neil: he's a clever campaigner. he's making lemonade out of the lemons he's dealt and taking a trip to chick-fil-a and the trip to a bodega. and he scored points doing that, i don't know how often. but you can find some opportunities there. how do you think that part is going? >> look, you're right. think about it, when he gets in the situation and just do the contrast between him and joe biden and who wins that picture, if you will, every time. the bodega, i thought was brilliant and how many opportunities will he have in easy striking distance of the courthouse and the stop in

atlanta, well, that was on his way to a fundraiser and again, that's what's going to be sort of crimped his ability to do a lot of fundraisers, he can't do them five times a week, at best a couple of days a week. neil: i had a chance to catch up with bill barr, the former attorney general who was no fan of the president, the former president, the way that he led, but he just compared to joe biden he's an easy pick, he would choose him over joe biden. he explained to me exactly why. from bill barr, a few minutes ago. >> i'm not happy with the choice. i think this is a terrible choice for the country, but it is a choice. at the end of the day, we have to select between two different individuals and i've said all along that i think it's my duty to pick the person i think will do the least harm to the country and i think that to me, that's clearly trump and republican administration. neil: of course, we know all the things he's said about donald trump, that he isn't fit

to hold that office again, but obviously he feels that joe biden is even less so. how do you see that? because a number of republicans of his ilk aren't certainly reconciling that, tortured souls dealing with that. invariably to man and woman, not all of them, invariably for trump. >> publicly that's the case. and it's by this dilemma, if you will. millions of voters, i don't like the choice of the party i'm inclined to vote for. i don't like donald trump or i don't like joe biden, but the alternative is worse. this is an election we're not voting primarily for somebody, it's going to be we're voting against the other guy. and it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the course of the election. publicly we're going to hear from those democrats who have made the decision reluctantly to vote for biden and from republicans like general barr who have reluctantly made the decision to vote for trump.

the question, what's the level of enthusiasm and personal decisions of millions of americans from whom we're not going to hear. if both sides have the problem for different reasons, but both of them have it, and right now, if you look at the national polls, that donald trump is doing a better job of keeping his team together than is joe biden, but joe biden has improved over the last couple reas is because democrat the blacks, hispanics and young voters have decided reluctantly that their choice has got to be biden. this is what the election is going to come down to. how many people say i'm holding my nose and voting for the person i'm inclined to vote for as a republican or democrat and we don't know how that's going to play out. neil: some, not to vote at all. >> right. neil: that's a wild card. let me ask you, one of the things that bill barr was mentioning as well, karl, was this notion of how donald trump would perform and lead as president, that he hopes it

isn't a vendetta tour or anything like that. he thinks there are big issues he was very good at when he was president and hopes he pounds those issues when he's president. that's another raging debate that some republicans are having. what do you think? >> oh, yeah, absolutely. in fact, you see iowa and new hampshire. iowa donald trump's message was i'm humble, gratified, say complimentary things about my opponents. that left a taste in a lot of people's mouth of this guy even if i didn't vote for him he's the leader of my party and i can get behind him. and then new hampshire where he took a two by four to nikki haley and has not reached out since. that's the other side of it. so you have this concern that people have, are they-- are they going to be voting for the guy who is going to be able to unite the party and therefore unite the party or not. neil: do you think he could be a uniter if he wins? >> if he decides to be a uniter he will win because the country

is clearly upset with the leadership exhibited by joe biden and they want to be told there's something better coming their way. neil: and as president he could operate that way? >> well, that's the big question. and how he campaigns is going to demonstrate that. and that's one of the things why, you know, getting more time is important to him because he gets a chance, if he has more time, to not be talking about 2020 being stolen and the j-6 being hostages, but instead to paint a vision of what it is that he wants to do for the country and give people a sense of hope and optimism that things can be better. they already think things were better when he was in the white house than joe biden and now he's got to convince them it will be better if he returns to the white house. neil: great catching up with you, karl rove, former deputy chief of staff and fox contributor and best selling author. we're back on the middle east right now and rising tensions there because they're rising in other respects and unfortunately, and this has been a big issue for the markets, so have rising prices and delays in rate cuts and

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kelly o'grady has more. >> well, neil, inflation is unfortunately proving harder to tame than expected. and you've seen a number of key metrics that have actually ticked up in the last few months. now, recall that the market cpi came in at 3 1/2% year over year, that's well above the fed's 2% target. the narrative here does appear to be changing. no more celebrating from fed chair powell, instead a hard pivot towards the admission that rates may need to be higher longer. >> and it has not given us confidence and likely to take longer than expect today achieve that confidence. if higher inflation does persist we can maintain the current level of restriction for as long as needed. >> and perhaps not even at the current level. there are analysts warning rates may need to increase, there's a risk that the fed could raise the rate to 6 1/2%

next year. what does it mean for you. >> rates could go higher. if you're a first time home buyer waiting to pounce you could be waiting longer. and inflation, it's not just a problem when it comes to rates. it calls into question whether we have a handle on the economy. i think a perfect indication is what's happening in the bond market. in times of uncertainty people buy bonds because a government-backed treasury means safety. invests don't think so anymore, they're not buying. neil: another troublesome sign there. kelly o'grady. i want to go to aaron gibbs, and kathy, the capital markets genius. if you don't mind i'd like you to sort of react to something that neel kashkari told me. he kind of echoed what both of you had been warning about, the back drop for interest rates not getting cut anytime soon. this is from neel kashkari. >> we just need to sit here and be patient until we see the data and hopefully get

convinced that inflation continues to fall back down. the good news, as you indicated, the economy continues to be strong, gdp growth is strong, consumer spending is strong and the labor market is strong. so, we're in a good position from which to take our time before we decide where to go with interest rates. neil: take your time until next year? >> well, i mean, potentially. i dialed in in march, i had dialed in two interest rate cuts this year, two 25-basis points cuts before some of the data we've seen. i'm in the view we need to wait and see. neil: all right, that echoes what i've heard from austan goolsby, much of the same thing hurry up and wait and wait for a while. if we get no rate cuts at all and market rates are backing up as they have been lately this year, what happens? >> well, i think again, wall street is going to be a bit disappointed. we've seen markets already move to more defensive measures

already, you know, the fed suggesting that maybe we'll only get one rate cut this year. i think if it doesn't happen at all, and again the shift the equity values down a little farther and push those bond prices even lower so that we get higher yields. so, i think that that will be a bit of a shift, a bit of a disappointment and definitely there will be some volatility as people digest this, but again, i think the risk of reinflation, the second wave, is very high, and investors aren't taking it as seriously as they should because we are in that late stage of an economic cycle with good, strong gdp, low employment and we're already seeing those signs of increasing inflation, particularly on the commodities side. so, i think it's something that people should really be aware of and be ready to protect their investments from. neil: you know, katherine, we're seeing in mortgage rats popped back over 7% again, that's very low for someone my

age, remembers they were very higher. we were used to much lower rates and it's putting a chill on housing and we saw that in the housing data this week. are you worried? >> well, housing prices aren't going to come down soon if mortgage rates don't come down, neil. there's a shortage in the housing market of supply and that's really keeping prices higher, so, it's pushing out the capacity for new entrants to the market to buy a house and i'll disagree with erin. you have to have been defensive already. you don't want to start getting defensive when the market is spooked. you do that when the market is greedy. so, i think the put options i've been recommending on the s&p 500 and the triple q's, which is the technology sector have done remarkably well. gold is soaring and that's one of the defensive positions that i've been recommending. i like at this moment short duration treasuries, they're 5% yield on the two-year space. i think that's an attractive buy. i think the fed ultimately does cut.

this is a fed that wants to cut and the biggest risk is keeping this high for a period of time, risk of recession. neil: you both are geniuses on this. someone who is betting on put options, declining in price. when you made a bet on that, particularly the technology qqq and 100, technology latent. and having said that, i notice the magnificent seven, googles, nvidia, what have you. a lot of them earned into correction territory and nvidia is in bear market territory following about 19%, 20% from its highs. are you worried for technology? are you worried that maybe the heyday is getting tested here? >> i think it's more that we're seeing a shift, one, into different areas of technology, but certainly, if we're taking

some value off of the magnificent seven. they were already highly valued and use the phrase, price today perfection and things aren't going perfectly. there's a lot of world turmoil and they could certainly decline farther, particularly if we see increased middle east confrontation and other of these types that have been suggested with china could also create, you know, figurer fears and more volatility. we're not seeing widespread volatility across the u.s. markets, but certainly, i think everybody should be prepared for valuations to come down for the markets to come down, and to be more defensive and yes, i agree, i've been saying, look at gold. you know, take, you know, some of your riskier equity bets off the table and look at types of, like, short-term treasury inflation protected bonds in case we do get a second wave in 2015. neil: still have a ways to go

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>> you know, every morning i get in on saturdays and i do the special show which i always love doing, i always pay attention to the weather and what's going on. when i heard about snow in colorado and quickly looked at any calendar, it's april 20th, what's going on. adam klotz told me it's not too unusual, but this is the weather that we're facing and it's crazy in some parts of the country of the what's going on? >> may and april actually across the mountain west, neil, is a time when they typically see some of the biggest

numbers. that's not totally unheard of. neither across portions of the south. you think spring and big storms, they're seeing them currently in texas and this is a very robust system. you see all of that lightning, the heaviest rain coming down from dallas and stretching further off into portions of east texas here. really heavy rain and flooding could be an issue. we have a low end severe storm threat across this region here today. don't be surprised if some of the storms get severe and that means really big thunderstorms with hail and strong winds and the larger concern, pretty consistently here is going to be the flooding. because of the amount of rain that we're falling across this region. i'll get out of the way. a time stamp there. 6 p.m. we're watching the storms drag across portions of the southeast, ultimately overnight they run across the southeast getting more into georgia, alabama, into the carolinas, by the time you get in sunday and you finally clear off by the time the weekend is over, so there will be some sunshine across texas eventually. how much rain are we ultimately talking about here?

well, you see some of the green colors, two to three inches, those yellow colors, three to five, or excuse me, the orange colors more like three to five inches. quite a bit of rain and the only thing is, largely in some portions of texas. they need it. as you get further off to the east here, neil, everything in the turquoise color, that's wet ground. all of this rain has nowhere to go. we'll certainly see flooding from today and into tomorrow. neil: adam. thank you. adam klotz following the nation's weather. weather had nothing to do with the near miss at reagan international airport the other day. maybe more to do with tired air traffic controllers. we don't know. this much we do, it was a close call. ate. because you... you are not doing this. save with drivewise and get a rate based on you. you're in good hands with allstate.

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>> left turn at november. ground point 7. >> embraer, stop, stop, stop 2937 stop! >> we're stopped cleared runway four. neil: they say that was a close call. i don't know how close those planes got to each other, but the one cleared for takeoff, could see what's going on here, the frantic voices from an air traffic controller, controllers and stopped and avoided something that could have been different. kyle bailey, a pilot, former f.a.a. safety team member and knows the industry well. kyle, what do you think happened here? >> you know, it's interesting. apparently there was a trainee controller and you could hear the chaos in the control tower, so the interesting thing it appears that the one airplane, the southwest, was legitimate

to cross the runway and the takeoff clearance, the pilots did the right thing, but there's a problem with the controllers that perhaps, maybe perhaps a training controller might have actually given the wrong clearance or the airplane across the runway when it shouldn't have. you could hear from the chaos, there was a lot going on in that control tower. appeared i heard three or four voices on there. normally two, a ground controller and the controller who controls the flights in the air for takeoff and landing. but that third voice that we heard on there indicates that maybe there was a trainee or they were training somebody on that position. neil: so who would be the voice or which would be the voice that says stop, stop? that would be the authority? >> you know, it almost seemed like the supervisor. neil: right. >> or a combination of. they're up there in that cab together. so it could have been one of a number of individuals who actually saw what was going on

at the radar scope or out the window. neil: and i know they're rare instances. and this one was caught and maybe the pilots involved at that level they see each other and obviously stopped, but remember what happened in the 70's, canary islands two points collided and the weather back drop and we've since corrected for that, or have we? >> fortunate enough here, the jetblue aircraft, you know, wasn't at excessive speed and extremely close proximity to the southwest aircraft sore we would have had a disaster on our hands here. this is happening more frequently and with air traffic controllers with pilots, and then we're seeing all the other crazy stuff happening over the last couple of months with the airplane, parts falling off, but you know, stress is a key here with these controllers and i think the f.a.a. directive that the administrative announced yesterday to increase that rest time is very critical here and i think that's a great

thing that's happening. neil: we do have that built-in for pilots, i think, do we have it built in for f.a.a. folks? >> it is built in. but the issue here, a lot of the controllers -- like i live here in new jersey and a lot of the controllers are commuting from new york, from long island because they're moved around from facility to facility. neil: i see. >> they don't want to pick up and move so on top of, you know, their time off, they might be commuting an hour, hour and a half back to their homes. so if they're doing a quick turn, it's pretty difficult, but there are mandates as far as the hours worked and also, the rest periods. so a controller, if they're on between 90 and 120 minutes, they need an automatic 30-minute break so they're not staring at a radar scope for eight straight hours or looking out of a window for a long period of time. so there are mandates as far as the rest while on duty and

also, when you're off duty, as far as to get sleep. neil: yeah, very important, we've got to get our rest, particularly those guys because they have a lot of people they're responsible for. thank you, kyle, very good seeing you. kyle bailey. this was an anomaly and they're investigating in terms of who was tired and an investigation. meanwhile we're investigating what is happening in washington d.c. right now with a busy and working as if it's a regular workday in washington. the house is taking up measures to provide aid to the likes of israel and ukraine, and taiwan, and mixed up in this is a divide among some republicans that speaker johnson is capitulating too much on this and they don't think he's long for the job. they doesn't want him in the job. we've explored that with those on both sides of the aisle. as will alicia acuna and griff jenkins that take you through this fox news day and so much. feel more confident with stock ratings from j.p. morgan analysts in the chase app.

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