the question is when. when that happens, what -- how do these protestors react? i think it's safe to assume, dana, that they will only accelerate in other parts of the country. >> dana: possibly. with graduation and people going home for the summer, you might get a little bit of a lessening of it. they aren't talking about palestine so much anymore. the university of chicago they're asking for the green new deal and for admissions to be cut by 50% by 2030. >> one sign side blank your borders. >> dana: they want to end campus police at the university of utah. a lot of this has morphed and become left wing progressive nonsense. the president of the united states we'll wait to see what he has to say. so far he hasn't said much at all except on paper. a quick couple of hours. harris faulkner will take you through the next hour. here she is. >> harris: let's begin with the breaking news as we monitor

former president trump's new york criminal trial. moment by moment updates. journalists and producers are in the courtroom and we'll stay on the right side of your screen right now. and at any moment president biden is expected to speak on the anti-israel protesting that is rocking college campuses across america. and that would be the first time in about nine days that he said anything on the explosion of anti-semitism we have been watching. he has been talking through the white house press secretary and his other representatives and spokes people but to hear from the commander-in-chief when the nation is covered in protests among young people in particular. and that is a segment of the voting base for the democratic party that he will desperately need to win re-election in november. not to have heard from him on that, not to have heard from him definitively on the anti-israel and anti-jewish hate that is

just all over these campuses right now has been odd not to see. so we look forward to that. we can't promise he will talk about that but there will be journalists there and you can bet he will be asked about it. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." another day of violence at a different major american university. [flash bangs] >> harris: we're going to take you to the left coast of america, police descending on the university of california in los angeles. the crackdown on that campus, on ucla's anti-israel encampment is happening days after anarchy, we're already seeing it happen at columbia university. schools are finally calling in

law enforcement and clearing out those dangerous manifestations of hate against jews. officers in riot gear tore down plywood and removed pallets and metal barriers. we see some of that on the video. they used smoke flares and flash bangs that you could hear. they were trying to control the crowd. look at the guy, he is not just wearing a mask, he had on goggles, too, did you see that? they don't want you to know who they are. we know they hate. then they started making arrests and the show of force after only scenes like this earlier this week. watch. pro-israel counter protestors took on their rivals. the outcome chaos and violence before police arrived in riot gear, william la jeunesse was standing by at ucla. and will bring us up to date. first i want to go to peter doocy at the white house. we're waiting on the president

to speak. peter. >> you mentioned it has been a couple of days. april 22nd was the last time president biden talked about this and wasn't prepared remarks, just a stray question that a pool producer managed to get to him while he was exiting an earth day event. this is what he said then. >> president biden: i condemn the anti-semitic protests. why i've started a program to deal with that. i also condemn those who don't understand what's going on with the palestinians. >> a lot of folks, critics of president biden, said it was similar to president trump's remarks after charlottesville where he said there are very fine people on both sides. yesterday karine jean-pierre said fundamentally they are are not the same. bad faith to say that. that's really all that we've been getting. they have not told us which university presidents the president has talked to or how much of this he has been consuming on tv like the rest of us. instead, they have just been telling us and assuring us he is

being briefed in realtime. >> the president has not been silent on this issue when it comes to hate speech, anti-semitism. he launched the first-ever anti-semitism strategy to counter anti-semitism. something no other president did. we are going to continue to do the work. as the president is being kept regularly updated on what is happening, he is monitoring the situation closely. >> and that's critical. they are looking at this as something that president biden doesn't need to talk about every day. something crazy happens overnight on a college campus. they think he has such a strong record speaking out against anti-semitism. when you look at it. he does have a strong record, just not this week. he put out an anti-semitism plan for college campuses but since that plan went out, there has been vile anti-semitic rhetoric. buildings have been occupied, lawns have been posting these huge encampments.

so there are huge problems that he has not responded to. it represents a big difference between his comments in 2017 after charlottesville and anything that he has done or said in 2024. so as we look at what he is going to say any minute in the roosevelt room, where they have a small group of press that has been assigned just to travel with him today, standing by, it will likely be updated to be less of the kind of yes, it's wrong what is happening anti-semiticly but also wrong what is happening people that don't understand the palestinians. it is probably going to be different than that. >> harris: anti-semitism, jewish hate. all of it we should have heard from him even if he is repeating himself if that's what he says he would do. just keep doing it. tell the people that they are wrong for carrying out threats against jewish students, so on and so forth. places like brown university are negotiating with the agitators,

protestors, some students and people who come onto campus to join the fray. one of the things they say that they want is for these universities to divest any monies from israel. this goes beyond feeding palestinians in case anyone was wondering. the president has a lot to talk about if he chooses to go there. peter doocy, thank you very much. let's go back to the university of california in los angeles where police are clearing that encampment there. they began at 3:00 a.m. students and professors are sharing how it has been to live and to exist on campus lately. >> jews were not allowed to go into the campus. jews were not allowed to go into the library or allowed to go to classes. it was never peaceful. >> this looks like a war zone. it demonstrates to me that this school is run by a bunch of cowards. >> ucla needs to step up and keep their jewish students safe. it was a total disaster.

>> harris: william la jeunesse is at ucla and at the center of it all pre-dawn this morning. quite a day already, william. >> yeah, it sure has. the campus is closed now. the university wants students to avoid this quad area. maybe you can see why. police are now moving in again. but i want to show you one important area, right? a lot of people wonder how did this encampment continue to resupply itself? it was right through here, the back door area they have continued to bring in supplies, plywood, power tools, you name it. came through here and had to have a password or i.d. this is basically royce hall. i will take you down here. you can see security is just begin to arrive. they haven't been here all morning since police left. here you can take a look at some of the graffiti on the walls along here. spray painted.

>> harris: p president of the united states is speaking. >> president biden: the right to free speech and for people to peacefully assembly and make their voices heard. the second is the rule of law. both must be upheld. we are not an authoritarian nation where we silence people or squash dissent. the american people are heard. in fact, peaceful protests is in the best tradition how americans respond to issues. but -- but neither are we a lawless country. we are a civil society. order must prevail. throughout history we've faced moments like this because we are a big, diverse, free thinking and freedom loving nation. moments like this are always those who rush into score political points. but this isn't a moment for politics. it's a moment for clarity. so let me be clear, peaceful protests in america, violent protest is not protected.

peaceful protest is. it's against the law when violence occurs. destroying property is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations, none of this is a peaceful protest. threatening people, intimidating people, instilling fear in people is not peaceful protest. it's against the law. dissent is essential but it must never lead to disorder or denying the rights of others so students can end the semester and finish their education. it is matter of fairness and what's right. the right to protest but not the right to cause chaos. people have the right to get an education, the right to get a degree, the right to walk across a campus safely without fear of being attacked. let's be clear about this as well, there should be no place

in any campus, no place in america, for anti-semitism or threats of violence against jewish students. there is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind whether it's anti-semitism, islamaphobia or discrimination against arab americans or palestinian americans. it is simply wrong. there is no place for racism in america. it's all wrong. it's unamerican. i understand people have strong feelings and deep convictions. and in america we respect the right and protect the right for them to express that. but it doesn't mean anything goes. it needs to be done without violence, without destruction, without hate, and within the law. make no mistake, as president i will always defend free speech and i will always be just as strong standing up for the rule of law. that's my responsibility to you, the american people. my obligation to the

constitution. thank you very much. >> mr. president, have the press forced you to reconsider our policies? >> no, thank you. >> do you think the national guard should intervene? >> president biden: no. >> mr. president, the former president said -- >> dana: wow, okay. so those as we heard from peter doocy it's a small group of media who are tasked with -- that's the travel group today. he is going to see them again. this is the first time in nine days that we've heard from the president on this. let's go deeper. ben domenech, editor at large for the spectator, leo terrell civil rights attorney from the ucla school of law. interesting to hear from him on a sun dry of things. phil holloway, former district attorney and legal advisor to the georgia sheriff's department. we just saw the president walk away.

ben, i will start with you. >> look, i think this is the most forceful thing he has said to this point. obviously it is a carefully crafted statement. one that i think acknowledges the fact that he has frankly been ignoring this issue for too long and this white house, i think, acknowledges now this is a problem for them. it's a political problem for them. he can talk about people rushing in to score points. i don't think that's actually what was going on here. i think the american people were sitting back and looking at what was playing out on these campuses waiting for the president to show some leadership, to stand up for the jewish communities in these areas and to frankly speak to a lot of people who are part of his democratic coalition who are engaged in this type of chaotic behavior. they've been waiting. he has finally done it. we'll see if there is any actual impact from this in terms of a response from campuses or from add min is -- administrators.

we'll see where it goes from here. >> harris: phil holloway, address the substance of the president's comments and any of it, as ben is talking about, that you think legally might compel some of these universities to step up. >> harris, i think technically he said the right words. legally is on point. the first amendment protections end when things get violent. first amendment protections end when they bar jewish students from going into buildings where they are entitled to go. the first amendment protections end when they put up encampments on property they do not own. however, he came too late. where was he a week and a half or so ago before things got out of hand? that's when the president needed to show some leadership. he didn't do it. just like we saw no leadership from the president of columbia university or even ucla. they allowed these individuals to get a foothold.

allowed them to bring cardboard and other things in there and to build these encampments. they let these people own that property with the tools they needed to create this chaos. this should have been addressed and nipped in the bud a week or week and a half ago. that being said, the president's words were on point. he said what the first amendment means and it does not allow for unpeaceful, violent protests, things that violate the rights of third parties. >> harris: leo, your alma mater is the university of california at los angeles. ucla. and i want to get first your take on what you've seen unfold and continue to since 3:00 a.m. >> harris, i went to law school there. that is not the school i went to. i went to ucla law school. that was a national embarrassment. i respect my colleagues but the president gave a generic speech on what the first amendment is. i get it.

what you are watching and what the fox viewers are watching at ucla last night is not free speech. that's everything that is -- represents criminal conduct. i don't see free speech at ucla right now. that's criminal conduct. what is missing from the speech is what are you going to do to protect jewish american citizens? where is it? i heard nothing. i heard crickets. i want to give everybody a news flash. all those individuals that were arrested, we're in los angeles, they'll be released. we are in george gascon territory. he won't prosecute anyone. where is mayor bass and governor newsom? i didn't hear anything. one final point, harris, president trump and the federal government can stop everything that's going on. it is called title vi. it is called the f.b.i. it is called the department of justice. no federal prosecution whatsoever. what i'm seeing here as a law student and ucla law student and

civil rights attorney? i see the jewish american students being victimized just like black students were in the 50s and 60s. they were protected by the federal government. they had federal marshals. they had protection. jewish american citizens are not being protected by president joe biden and the democrats. >> harris: you bring up an interesting point. i want to further the leo is saying. the f.b.i. director said their number one focus has been hate crimes. and how they are exploding across the united states. that was previous to october 7th. the border then became also, you know, right alongside that issue. as leo is pointing out, the hate speech, the threats to kill, just alone the physical that we've seen when we talk with

students who say they are physically held back by students who say they are pro-palestinian, anti-israel, what do you make of the f.b.i. not getting involved at this point? >> harris, actions speak louder than words. if the f.b.i. wants to start prosecuting these people that are barring jewish people from attending class, if the federal authorities want to start prosecuting people for false imprisonment and other federal violations, then we'll have something. but until the f.b.i. and the department of justice actually do something, these are just hollow words. instead we will be left with the local prosecutors who we already see in many places do nothing. they could learn a lot from the governors of texas and georgia and florida and elsewhere where these governors showed leadership and said it won't be tolerated. if you violate the law you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and you don't see those things happening in those states.

it takes leadership. something that we have not unfortunately seen from this administration. >> harris: gentlemen, will you be with me for this hour. police are patrolling the campus of portland state university as anti-israel protests are raging on yet another campus, as they are across the country. plus another gag order hearing in the historic new york versus trump trial. why his defense team says it is so unfair that the former president cannot talk but others in the case can do all sorts of things in his name. they can defame him, they can lie, or speaking of lying, the professional and convicted liar michael cohen is putting out posts. he can do that. it is part of the proof to defend the former president against the gag order. stay close.

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campaign and he railed against this trial that's keeping him off the campaign trail. >> i got to do two of these things a day. you know why? i'm in new york all the time with the biden trial. biden trial. a fake trial. [booing] >> harris: fox senior correspondent eric shawn is in new york at the state supreme court in new york city. >> this may be the donald trump trial. this morning it seemed as if michael cohen was the defendant. the president's lawyer put cohen on trial this morning. he criticized cohen for raising money on tiktok. he said cohen has been posting live streams every night on the social website and trashing his former boss on his podcast. the tweet from cohen, keep messing with me, donald, and i

won't send any money to your commissary. it shows a trump doll with an orange suit. trump action fixture featuring a jumpsuit and removal hair. grab yours now before they all escape. the judge is considering if trump violated the gag order for more times. prosecutor cited this attack from the former president on the jury last week saying quote, that jury was picked so fast, 95% democrats. there is mostly democrat. you think of it as purely a democrat area. the former president seems to be mindful now of the gag order. at his wisconsin rally yesterday he did reinstate that attack but he left out naming the jury. >> i have a crooked judge, totally conflicted judge. i come -- unfortunately it is a 95% or so democrat area.

other than that, things are wonderful. >> after the gag order hearing finished back on stand beverly hills lawyer keith davidson. the lawyer who negligent eliteed the deals with his clients play buy playmate karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. he thought payments were meant to help trump but no direct communication with trump about that. the defense lawyers will drill into that to try and show he is testifying on only what he thinks and believes, not exactly what he knows. he also criticized trump on the stand saying trump has criticized michael cohen on the stand sake cohen had his pants on fire and said cohen was extremely disappointed he did not go to washington with the president elect when he went down to the white house. expletive riddled paragraph of testimony. davidson quoted mr. cohen as saying after all i did for that

blank guy, so clearly putting michael cohen in the spotlight here today, harris. >> harris: i guess he didn't bring his good words with him. thank you very much. let's get back to ben domenech and phil holloway and leo terrell. the movement against former attorney for donald trump, michael cohen, the heat is too hot for him apparently. he is getting a barrage of questions now from the defense. >> i think hanging this case on your reliance on michael cohen was really a mistake from the get-go. one of the reasons why this is such a time waster of a case and one of the reasons why it is a ridiculous path to go down given all that he has admitted in the past and frankly his continued behavior in terms of everything that was just being detailed there. the way he has offered a running commentary and fundraiseed off of this existing effort. look, he is just a terrible

lawyer and i think that one of the things you can look at in this situation is all of the people who have gone down this path of trying to engage in an effort to use law fare to eliminate donald trump's ability to be reelected as president of the united states, these efforts have failed because they have depended time and again on some of just the worst and least reliable people in the business of law. >> harris: leo, from what ben was saying it is such a good point to make. if this was your choice to hang your entire case on a convicted liar and a former sex film worker who i'm not even really sure how this case moved ahead six years past its freshness date, if you will. because even the current manhattan district attorney alvin bragg had passed on it. so here we sit. >> politics is the reason why this case is being brought right

now. the prosecution has been trying to hide michael cohen. this witness -- davidson something very magical to the ears of the defense. he had no direct communication with donald trump. where is the relevance of his testimony? three weeks of trial, harris, and no evidence implicating donald trump committing a crime. >> harris: thank you very much, all of my guests. anarchy campuses are dealing with across the nation, ucla encamp. cleared away. so much to get to. louisiana senator john kennedy is in "focus" next. g, ned's plaque psoriasis. he thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. otezla can help you get clearer skin. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people taking otezla had depression,

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[shouting] >> harris: it's been seven or eight hours now since police went to work before the sun came up at ucla. you can see the job they had to do breaking down jewish hate spewing encampments. this is rocking coast to coast now, the hatred. on the east coast activists at new york university reestablished their encampment in a school plaza where students were told to disband. they don't care.

unfolding at city university of new york and fordham, anarchy. on the campus of columbia anarchy. we have seen what police have had to do. nypd also working night operations to try to break things up. one protestor told reporters occupiers might die without food or water delivery. just watch. >> why should the university be obligated to provide food to people who have taken over a building? >> well, first of all we're saying they are obligated to provide food to students who pay for a meal plan here. >> you mentioned there was that food and water be brought in. >> i guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation columbia feels it has to its students. do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill even if they disagree with you? >> harris: oh my goodness. the woman behind her nodding her head yeah girl.

what about the palestinians they say they want to help. they aren't helping them in this process. that would be offensive if you literally didn't have food or water and you were depending on those people to help change the game for you. can you even imagine? well that woman is being mocked online. one tweet this. the resolution will be catered. another writing, you can't globalize the intifada and cry about low blood sugar. wow. cb cotton reporting for us at nyu. cb. >> hi, harris. here we can see about 15 to 20 tents and several signs all calling for nyu to divest from israel. all of these students here in this open air encampment have been threatened with suspension but they are still here. presumably trying to make this open air encampment as comfortable as possible. food, water, plenty of blankets and pillows.

no word yet whether the nypd will be called in to clear it out. an up-close look at what officers dealt with at columbia university. they had to use a high-powered electric saw. once they were in this is what happened next. [shouting] >> based on the facts and the law. that will -- some of you camera footage and interviews with witnesses. >> okay, there you just heard from manhattan d.a. alvin] talking about how he is going to review all of the cases, all the students and others non-affiliates arrested over at columbia university. it will be interesting to see, as we watch these cases play out in the courts. again, harris, back here at nyu there has been a lot of protests and most recently the president

addressed the student body to say at one of the protests of more than 100 people were arrested, she says less than half of those people were students here at nyu. >> harris: we have no doubt. they have to put up the tents and take them down. the students don't do that. they can barely feed themselves according to them. cb cotton, thank you for the report. let's watch. >> vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduation, none of this is a peaceful protest. threatening people, intimidating people, instilling fear in people is not peaceful protest. it is against the law. dissent is essential to democracy but it must never lead to disorder or denying the rights of others. >> harris: breaking news this hour. we showed you live the president. wanted you to see his comments

again moments ago. if there could have been a reporter follow-up it would have been what about the hate speech and people not feeling safe? will you tell the campuses to do more, particularly the private campuses that have the ability to expel and basically end people's careers if any of them are here illegally they lose their foreign visa? none of that can be asked about because he walked out the door. the first time we had heard from the president on this issue in nine days. that silence has many people asking where is biden? yesterday republican senators tore into the administration. watch. >> these little gazas are disgusting cess pools of anti-semitic hateful of pro-hamas sympathizer, fanatics and freaks. >> the universities need to put an end to this now. if they don't, they should kiss their federal funding goodbye. >> jewish students are being told it is not safe for you to be there anymore. i can't imagine any other group

on campus that university officials would say it's no longer safe for you to be here. >> president biden is scared to death to alienate the hamas wing of the democratic party. you should call it for what it is. rule by mob. rule by mob. a belief in diversity, equity, inclusion and the right to kill jews. and it's wrong. >> harris: republican senator john kennedy of louisiana is with me now. why is president biden afraid to do the right thing? >> well, harris, the mayhem you see is an effort to put pressure on president biden and it's working. what we're seeing happening on our college campuses is an x-ray of the democratic party as it exists at the moment. you have college presidents who

are democrats at war with faculty members and students who are also democrats but they are a special kind of democrats. as i said, they are members of the hamas wing of the democratic party. and they believe in diversity, equity, inclusion, and the right to kill jews. they want to change middle eastern policy for the united states. they want america to turn its back on israel and the jewish people and support iran and hamas. now, they can't get congress to go along with that. they can't get the courts to go along with that. so they have to get biden to do it. and president biden, with respect, he is old, he is weak. we will all get there someday. i'm sorry, but it takes longer than medical school for him to walk across a stage and he is polling up there with robocalls. he is weak politically. he knows he has to have the

hamas wing of the democratic party to be reelected. he is scared, as my dad used to say he is nervous as a pregnant nun. what they are doing to him is working. the president started out as a full-throated supporter of israel. now oh my gosh, you don't recognize him. he wants to leave hamas in charge of rafah in southern gaza. he has told the israelis they have to get a new prime minister because the current one is too tough. he wants to bring there the palestine liberation authority to take over gaza. the pla hates jews. they want to destroy israel. i mean, the whole thing is -- it ought to trigger the gag reflex of every american. >> harris: you know we've been talking a lot about gag orders. almost like he is under one. what you are talking about is happening so he is not telling us that it is and not having to

be held to account for what is going on. real quickly with this president what needs to happen next or do you think it has cost him so much politically that he can't get that young vote now? >> i think the president of the united states, for a change, needs to do what is moral and what is right. and in his heart he knows. we need to stand with israel and the jewish people. we need to fight with everything we have against hamas and iran. we need to do to hamas what we did to isis and al qaeda. i hope -- i've said it before, the president needs to go to amazon and buy spine online and do the right thing. >> harris: are you suggesting we go to war with israel against hamas? >> no, i am suggesting we back israel just like the president started out. he gets weaker by the day. we need to back israel.

we need to destroy hamas just like we did isis and al qaeda. and we need to realize who is behind all this, iran. i understand the president has political problems. i'm sorry for that. but, you know, he made them. and just because the democratic party has been taken over by people who hate israel and love hamas, that's no reason for him to go along with it. >> harris: senator john kennedy of the great stay of louisiana. no one puts it quite like you. i appreciate your time and expertise at this hour and as a nation we're perched to see what this president can and will do. thank you. we're following two breaking stories this hour and we've been splitting the coverage and the screen between them. former president's trumps new york criminal trial making history now and mass anti-israel jewish hate on college campuses in america. stay close.

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>> harris: all right. just a quick wrap-up now with leo terrell, ben domenech and phil holloway. the trial is on a break now. the defense is set to cross-examine the former attorney to stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. leo, i come to you first for your quick last thoughts. >> harris, this is a waste of time in the legal system. it is not a case of a criminal case. it is a political case designed to hurt trump and it is going to fail. >> harris: phil. >> we've heard little to nothing about any crimes committed by donald trump. we have learned a lot about how campaigns don't want negative information to get out. we have learned a lot about catch and kill. we have not seen any criminal

conduct. what we have seen is a biased judge who is itching to put donald trump in jail so regardless of how shoddy the prosecutor's case is we have to worry that the result will be something that is unfair. >> harris: this is live right now. the former president of the united states, donald trump, and his defense team have just walked back into court. so they are getting ready to resume. their breaks have been short today. they started off with a gag order hearing to see whether or not this judge would go after him again and fine him $1 thousand for four additional gag order violations that the prosecution is alleging. we didn't see the threat to throw him in jail, though, by the prosecution. we haven't heard it again by the judge. he had said that earlier. ben, your thoughts. >> the american people care a lot more about the violence they see occurring on campuses and the violence they see on the american border and about chaos around the world than anything

that's going on in that courtroom. that's not going to change. it is a real problem for democrats who had pinned their hopes to this to bring down the former president. >> harris: what does it mean for trump, just the last one with you, ben? >> i think that this for trump to navigate this situation, he will continue to run up against these gag orders but i don't think it hurts him at all to engage in this. you are talking about $1 thousand here and there for him spouting off on something where most people agree with him. >> harris: he is allowed to say with the man who has a doll of him in an orange jumpily jump sight and not allowed to comment on that. >> who is the con here? >> harris: andy mccarthy said trump should hand the judge a $10,000 check for covering what i will say this week. "outnumbered" after the break.

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