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a good day from msnbc headquarters in new york, for you an extra bonus hour of "alex witt reports." there is so much going on today including donald trump said to speak in a matter of hours. his first beaches since the start of his trial just days before opening statements and a crucial hearing on the gag order in the case. much more on that coming up shortly. let us talk with what we've seen unfold over the past few errors in aware saturday session of the house of representatives. the house passing a quartet of bills, two of them of writing new u.s. aid to israel and ukraine. upper contain security systems for taiwan in the indo pacific region. on the last involves the effort to force tiktok's parent company to sell it or be banned in the united states. the reason for the password effort of separate bills, the inability of mike johnson to find enough common ground to
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pass this as one large foreign aid package. the four bills will be packaged as one and they will go to the senate for approval sometime in the next few days. altogether the build include $95 billion of an aide package champion by joe biden for months now with some changes from the version past two months ago. here is speaker johnson after the passage of the bills. >> i know there are critics of the legislation. it is not perfect. we are not insured that. in a time of divided government at a time where there are lots of different opinions but there is no question whatsoever but the house has made many strong improvements to the senate bill and the product we have sent over there is much better. this package, i will note, this is important, also includes national security priorities in many of them. it is the only way that we can get democrats to support aid to israel. that is a fact.
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>> the victory may come at a significant cost in the form of a looming motion to vacate pushed by a few of his most vocal far right critics. let us get right into it right now with julie tsirkin on capitol hill. julie, i want to get this a motion to vacate. we will get to that in a moment. take us through the process for getting the bills passed. >> reporter: you know have talking every weekend about how crucial it was to pass the aid for ukraine. i am starting at that for the bulk of the $85 million is $60 billion that would go partly to ukraine for their lethal arms and weapons and partly to replenish our own stockpiles. also some economic assistance in the form of a loan that is forgivable pending presidential congressional review. that last bit is something that the former president, president trump, had demanded republicans do before they put any aid on
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the floor. it was his procedural maneuvering that johnson had to do to get to this point. what we saw unfold today over about it our of the house is they have a measure that will be tied together in a package with the senate later today to tiktok. this would band tiktok within a year if the parent company, chinese company bytedance, does not sell the app to an american company, and owner that does not pose any national security risk in the eyes of the intelligence community and the eyes of lawmakers. that was the first bill they took the next, the ball to a taiwan and their end up at the big allies but there is about $8 million for that part and then came the ball for ukraine followed by a vote for israel. $26 billion and billions more for humanitarian aid. some of which should be used with civilians in gaza. all of these voters resented bipartisan numbers.
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300 vote cast each between republicans and democrats. marking the pivotal moment and an end to a lot of political dysfunction to get to this point. what happens to speaker johnson's job? >> that is a big question and we will have to wait and see. something not happening today that could potentially be the start of it. where do we stand now on this threat? she did speak after today's vote. and she is none too pleased about what happened. talk about that? >> reporter: she is not please print the person you're talking about is marjorie taylor greene who brought up this idea to our speaker johnson from his office last month when he put the government funding bills on the floor. she has some company. thomas massey coming out in support of it. paul gosar coming out in support of it yesterday. she did not force a vote on the floor but this. this is something she is still
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keeping in mind. here's what she said right after the vote today. >> i support the majority next temperate he is already a lame duck. he would not be speaker today. he is already a lame duck. >> as i said many times, i do not walk about the spelling the word about a motion to vacate. i have to do my job and we did. i have done what i believe to be the right thing and that is to allow the house to work as well. you let the chips fall where they may. >> reporter: i asked him if he is going to resign because that is exactly what the group of three, maybe less so marjorie taylor greene, who wants to force the ball to vacate. the rest want him to resign and step aside so there is no public show, like we saw in the fall when i keim jeffries ended up getting more vote than which ever republican candidate raise their hand to be speaker. that was embarrassing for republicans. something they do not want to
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see happening again. johnson walking away and not answering my question if he will resign but at this point, he does not plan to. >> julie, thank you for that update from a capital capitol hill. the pivotal and important as well today. drowning out brendan buck, the former press secretary to jon weiner and in msnbc political analyst. good to seal. these bills all passed with 300 vote. why did speaker johnson field they needed to be passed one by one instead of as one big package altogether? >> reporter: it gets into the procedural man's that a speaker faces but one of the things that they make a leadership too often together bundles together things with massive bills people cannot read. it simplifies the ways thing work. it was just an effort to give them a little something as they were doing something they were totally opposed to. that did not appease anybody.
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to your point, this could have been done, three medically, long time ago. what mike johnson has found is that he had to, at least, talked to enough members to get a sense of where the conference is before he felt like he could roll over a significant portion of the conference. not easy to do for any leader. i think he needed to explore all options before he realized this was the only way to go. >> i will ask you to stand by because i will bring in the congress roman joining us from capitol hill, chrissy houlihan of pennsylvania. she is an air force veteran currently sitting on the house intelligent and armed services committee. i know you have had a long day so far. we will begin quickly with the aid for ukraine, which he voted in favor of. as an air force bat, a member of the house intelligence and armed services committee. give us your perspective about the importance of finally getting the aid past.
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>> i will go but on that, actually. in addition to the things you have listed, i am also the daughter of a person who was born in the in 1942 but he was born in poland, what is now ukraine and survived the holocaust and is a very small child and came here and served in the military himself. i was raised up on the history of that area of the world. and the fact that this part of the world is just so incredibly intrinsic to the peace and security, not only of the continent of europe at the world at large. the importance of making sure to keep putin at bay and you believe him at his word was something that i was raised on. it has been an urgent thing to be in congress and ask and plead to for us to take this seriously. as goes ukraine so goes the security of the world, frankly. >> it does appear that everyone listened to you in taking it seriously. there was one thing that we saw
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on the house floor with supporters, i think it was a couple dozen democratic supporters of ukraine. they were seen the ukrainian flags him up for, little ones but technically it is a violation of house rules. beaker johnson said there is only one flag that should be waived on the house floor. given what you have mentioned about your history and what you have grown up being exposed to an understanding, ukraine being a part of paul and when your father was born. i do not want to get you in trouble but were you one of those waving the flag today? what his reaction to the speakers singling out that for condemnation? let me add i had a representative from colorado on the show earlier but he brought out his little fight he had waived. you're not alone and in good company. >> i was one of the people waving the flag it is emblematic of something larger than the ukrainian people in the country of ukraine but it is and the medic of democracy around the world and our l.a. ship. the fact that we are on
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american soil and we should be studying those alliances. it was also a triumph for all the people who have worked hard to make sure we were delivering a ukraine. and importantly the vote was at the end of the series where we also had voted on heading into a ball for israel heading into a vote from taiwan but it is an important symbol. >> abby's reaction president zelenskyy that he posted on x? it was heartfelt. he named members of both parties. he thanked speaker johnson at the end. he said thank you, america. what did it mean to be that? >> it meant a ton to me. i've had a conversation with the ukrainian parliament about this issue. i know this is a sacrifice coming from the american people. i know we are allocating scarce resources that could be spent other places. i know that vote coming from
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members of congress are not easy votes. the idea but he would recognize almost instantly how important and harvey's vote were for people to take was meaningful. i hope they are meaningful to like constituency as well. >> you ever voted in favor of aid to israel. there was talk about the possibility of democratic opposition to protest how israel is conducting the war. 173 democrats supported it. were you surprised by how your colleagues voted? >> it actually felt about right on every one of the bills, all three of them were someone in the 300 or so at a 400 or so people in terms of supporting them. this is an example of what i hope we have shown what is possible, regardless of who the speaker is. the speaker should be the speaker for the whole house and not a specific party. there are about three quarters on any date who will be supportive of any smart, pragmatic solution to many of
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the problems that we have. we need the chance to vote. >> let me ask you one a question about marjorie taylor greene, her threat to file a motion to vacate. it is being supported by two other republicans. if it comes to it, and it likely could, will you vote to save speaker johnson? what might democrats as for in return for that kind of support? >> this is a hard question. first of all i am frustrated by some of my colleagues, marjorie taylor greene being one of them may feel as one person should rule the entire body. 435, representing 770,000 people each. we ought to be able to be functional. she has found this house in chaos to the point where her own party is disgusted and annoyed by it but i would hope that we have passed through that. we have talked to speaker johnson and asked for the ability to vote. he has answered that and has said we have four different vote on four different subjects.
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and now we move through and see what happens when we come back from our district week. he did the right thing. i told when i spoke to him privately that i believe him to be a good man. i believe he did that thing and he did desmet he said something in a public comment that he wanted to be on the right side of history. i believe he was. for that, we should reward him. >> chrissy houlihan, i want to thank you so much at the end of a long day. i detect a smile on your face as you head home. thank you for your time with us. let us go back to brendan buck. thank you for standing by. we wanted the congressman to finish this long day on capitol hill. let us talk about political playbook. it reports one of the other republicans who has signed on to marjorie taylor greene's motion to vacate, congressman massey is hoping to force johnson to resign on his own rather than remove them.
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and they were siding the decision nine years ago to step down. can you share what the pressure was like on speaker paneer at that time? do you think johnson could withstand and a similar amount of pressure to leave voluntarily. >> i have no doubt that thomas massey would like him to resign jon weiner was born a half years into his service. he was expecting to step down the previous congress he was actually sticking around longer. pressure had risen throughout the conference, the freedom caucus made john boehner famous among conservatives. i don't know -- thomas massey talks about going home and having members feel pressure. i don't know your average voter knows who mike johnson is, let alone is passionate they will demand their members kick him out of office. i think johnson will be able to withstand desperate the reason i did not bring a ball up today
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and they are asking to resign is they do not have the vote to get rid of him but if they have the vote they would have done so. democrats will support hamburg you have a small number of republicans who are willing to do it. he is an an okay position for the time being. >> can i ask you about something that has stuck with me? he said dealing with the republican party was like herding cats. has anything changed? >> reporter: it has changed for the worse. the incentive structure is only devolving. the leadership structure, regardless of who the speaker is, has far less power than it ever did. all of these numbers can gain attention and fund raise. they don't need anything from leadership. they all are free agents and do whatever they want. marjorie taylor greene is getting everything she wants right now. everyone talks to her.
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they also have a narrow majority. it is not an easy job in any circumstances. mike johnson has been hit had a difficult hand. i think he did believes is the right thing to do. if you do the right things for the right reasons, things will work out for you. clearly, i think they have today. >> very good to see you, thank you for joining us today. volodymyr zelenskyy will speak exclusively with kristen welker tomorrow morning on meet the press. tune into that. we come back, out of the courtroom and onto the campaign trail per donald trump set to speak soon. it is his first speech following a tough week in court that included arguments over whether he is already violated a gag order in the case. a live report in 80 seconds. s deeply nourished, soft and lightweight. new herbal essences.
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out on the campaign trail. in a few hours he will take the stage at a rally in lillington, north carolina. it comes less than 48 hours before opening statements in his new york hush money trial. yasmin vossoughian is joining us from wilmington, north carolina , which i learned it actually exist. i thought it was delaware. anyway -- geography lesson today. you have covered the jury selection all week long but you are getting it on both fronts. on tuesday, the judge in the trump case will preside over hearing about the gag order. how closely do you think prosecutors will watch what the former presence is tonight at the rally? >> reporter: barry. i think many of the incidents that attorneys for the people have already cited when it came to violations in the gag order were about trump social post that he put out and/or things he said at campaign rallies. they were cited in front of
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juan merchan. that is why they have set the date of the hearing on tuesday to go over the violations and see what judge juan merchan says. if you find season held in contempt of court because he violated the gag order. i imagine and assume that prosecutors in the case will watch the rally incredibly close. you think about the timing of this. this is the first campaign rally happening after this trial is up and going before opening statements happen on monday. i imagine the former president is coming armed and ready to deliver not only part of his defense if he decides to take the stand but also likely to attack manhattan d.a.s office and their case here. >> the other hat you are wearing is being outside of the courtroom all week during the jury selection. what were some of the biggest takeaways for you with opening statements set for monday? >> reporter: emotion. many of the potential jurors understanding the gravity of
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the situation of the trial they were going to oversee and eventually decide the possible fate of the former president of the united states and the presumptive republican nominee for president. there were jurors, for instance, that were seated on the first day who came back the next day and said i slept on it and thought about it but i cannot be impartial. if you ever part of our coverage one of the first questions that judge juan merchan asked before giving the questionnaire, can you be impartial? folks that raise their hands actually left the courtroom . there were other folks that felt like they could be impartial. when thinking further about it, they felt as if they could not bring was a woman just yesterday who said she had fear and anxiety, thinking about the possibility of serving in this jury. she just could not do it. she got so emotional. she was sobbing when talking to the judge in open court. let me remind you for a moment
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what is happening in this courtroom. you have these jurors reading off this jury questionnaire and talking about their impartiality or not. it is a room full of the former president of the united states, secret service agents, all of his attorneys, attorneys for the people along with judge juan merchan. a camera trained on the courtroom with an overflow room and a ton of press. you can imagine the pressure for so many of these jurors and the worry as well that their identity will be figured out to print something that many of them boys they did not want. >> what is interesting in conversation which i had and i know you have been listening to this this afternoon. there are analyst, journalist, expert who are wondering if that same thing may happen as people consider this weekend what lies ahead and what they may be exposed to. i know you will watch that on monday. we will as well and see if we have to head into the alternate jury poll. that is possible.
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a quiet day so far in the showdown between israel and iran. we are learning more about the counterattacked lunch against iran earlier this week the new york times reporting on friday israeli airstrikes hit and damaged and iranian air defense system and a key military base. the iranians, however, have downplayed the attack. matt bradley has more on the fallout from the israeli retaliation. matt. >> reporter: a rare day in the middle east where the big news is the lack of news. so far it has been 40 hours since israel launched several missiles in central iran in retaliation for a week early when iran launch 300 projectiles, missiles and drones, at israel. that put the entire region on alert. that was waiting to see if this would turn into a regionwide
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war. this back-and-forth between israel proper and iran proper. we do see fighting between these two heavyweights but they are normally done by proxies, like hezbollah in lebanon, hamas, which we have seen engaged in the past six months. all of these groups backed by iran and were in the balance. they could have been targets in what could have been a major conflict but instead, it looks like both parties have now stepped back from the edge of a really, really blistering war. we do have fresh reporting from the new york times. they have set it looks as though israel's pinpoint precision target, which had not done damage was actually meant to send a message to the iranians. it was disabling into aerial systems that the iranians could have used to strike down other missiles. it sounded like it did little damage of a map of the iranians have spent much of the past two days almost mocking the israeli counterattacks saying it had
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the nothing. the foreign ministry even told nbc news the weapons they used resembles children's toys but it looks as though that was a message and one that effectively put the iranians on notice and kept the region from breaking out into a massive regionwide war that could have brought in the united states. >> matt bradley, thank you for that. i want to bring admiral james, commander of nato and chair of the rockefeller group. he is now a cheap international allergist -- analyst. let me just at a good friend to the broadcast. welcome and thank you for being here. before we get to the situated between iran and israel, i do want to talk about the actions in the house. president biden and ukrainian president zelenskyy have been asking for this aid for quite some time. what kind of impact on the $60 billion plus have on the battlefield in the war?
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>> this is remarkably good news. my first instinct, what took so long? like president zelenskyy who tweeted just a few moments ago how grateful he was, this is a real potential game changer for the ukrainians, who were on the backs foot over the last four to form -- five months. it is going to give them f-16 capabilities with advanced fighters. it will give them long rage cruise missiles to go at russia. it will provide additional cyber and above all, i'm sure president zelenskyy is thinking our defense. you will not see the kinds of scenes you are showing right now of destruction, attacks against civilians. this is good news for ukraine. >> dear point -- to your point of being on the fence, what has this cost ukraine, this delay?
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>> in practical terms, they have lost, 5% of their territory. secondly, they have lost thousands of their soldiers. thirdly, they have lost a great deal of capability in their electric grid to support their civilian population. this has had a real cost, this delay of four, six, seven months. we ought to be happy but this is happened. we have to be questioning why it took so long. >> there was also more than $26 billion in aid to israel but includes humanitarian help for gaza. how will this impact the offensive in gaza? >> the vast majority of this additional aid will go towards the vending israel in terms of its air defense capabilities. there is no mystery as to why israel was able to knock down
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350 drones, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles a few days ago. it is because of this kind of advanced air defense capability in knocking down that attack of 350 incoming targets. israel probably expended 800 to 1000 interceptors. this will go a long way towards replenishing the stock. as you say, alex, there is going to be a significant bit of this that will go as aid to the people of gaza. both of those, in my view, is money well spent for u.s. taxpayers. >> let us turn to the iran/israel showed up iran's board mr. satilla tom llamas this weekend and like and the weapons to children's toys. he said iran would not escalate further unless israel launches a attack. do you think this is over or could something reignite this confrontation between these two
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countries? >> i think the chances are 85%, at this point, that we are done with this rounder. meaning this will put both israel and iran back to a position of not attacking each other's home and directly. that is what creates a destabilizing effect and has had many of us observers and animals and active duty military very concerned. that is the good news, 85% probably settles down. that leaves 15%. the potential for a miscalculation is still there and how that could happen is one of the proxy groups that matt bradley was talking about a while ago, the houthi, has below, score some hit on israel. other actors in the region could begin to create more
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disturbances that drag israel and iran back. the bottom line, neither iran nor israel want a war. iran does not want it because they will lose it. and israel does not want it because they have their hands full with hamas and hezbollah to the north. >> i think you were reading my mind because you answered in a comprehensive manner the next question i was going to aspirate i thank you admiral. shortcut when we return, less than 48 hours away from opening statement in the first criminal trial. glenn kirschner will join me to break down what we can expect. s hipping to your advantage. keep those expectations with reliable ground shipping. thanks brandon. with usps ground advantage®. ♪♪ ♪ that colonoscopy for getting screened ♪ ♪ is why i'm delaying ♪ ♪ i heard i had a choice ♪
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as donald trump prepared to speak in a few hours in north carolina, he is also going up the next stage in his criminal trial in new york. on monday, prosecutors and attorneys will make their statements in the former president's has money case this after a contentious week of jury selection returning is now former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, glenn kirschner. it is good seeing you. as we look ahead to monday, we have opening statement said. lay out the strategy for each side when it comes to the first crucial chance to make an impression on the jury. >> reporter: the prosecutor's
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goal in opening statements is threefold. first of all, obviously, you want to highlight all of the incriminating evidence you will be able to prove that you will bring to their attention during the trial. almost as important as highlighting the incriminating evidence is not hiding any of the weak spots from the jury. you want up front for the jury, anything that might feel like a short ball in the evidence. the one thing the prosecutor never wants to hear in a defense opening statement, buddies and gentlemen, let me tell you what the prosecutor did not tell you about the weakness in his or her case. third, you want to develop that rapport with the jury. you want to be the one the jury looks to as an honest broker of the facts and honest broker of the law, somebody will give it to them straight. the defense goal, alex is also threefold. it is great reasonable doubt, create reasonable doubt and great reasonable doubt. >> is there anything the other side cannot do in opening statements? something they just absolutely,
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they have to avoid it? >> great question. they are called opening statements and closing arguments. you are actually not permitted to argue in your opening statements. what you can do is lay out the road map. what you expect the evidence will be but you cannot, for example, say, i want to argue the inferences that you will be able to draw from the evidence. you have to say that for closing arguments. >> on his way out of court yesterday, donald trump was asked about his plans to testify. let us take a look at the moment. here it is. >> what you testify? >> yes. >> there he put it, plain and simple. could his attorney stop him if he really wants to take the stand? >> reporter: there are no sure
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things in a criminal trial but as close as i think we will have a sure thing is that donald trump will not take the stand. yesterday they have the sandoval hearing a hearing where the prosecutors laid out 13 instances of other misconduct, not charged in the case that they would want to cross-examine donald trump with if he took the stand. it was devastating evidence. it is always a defendant's right to make that the decision the attorney cannot make the decision for the defendant but i'm sure the defense attorney will work mightily to make sure donald trump does not testify. i do not believe he will testify. >> okay. what you are saying is what everybody else, every other legal analyst have said that he will not testify. why does he keep saying that he wants to? is there something that he could legally use for an appeal? could he say i was held back from testifying and i wanted to? no?
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>> reporter: not an appealable issue because the judge will make there when the time comes and donald trump has to put up or shut up, the judge will inquire of him in d.c. we call it the boyd inquiry. as a -- as to whether he wants to testify or not but my guess is, he keep saying he will testify because once judge merchan rules on the sandoval evidence, he will say it is an unfair ruling and they will let the prosecutors cross- examine that i am unable to testify because the whole process is unfair. >> okay. there is a hearing on tuesday about the gag order in this case. just a few hours, donald trump will be back on the campaign trail. he will speak in north carolina. what could he say that lands him in hot water now that a jury has been chosen? >> reporter: great question. if he starts to rail against the jurors or start to call out
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the witnesses and denigrate them and solved -- insult them or threaten them, that i think the contempt charges have been piling up. at last count, i think we are at seven. the seven contempt charges will be argued tuesday morning. i cannot imagine judge merchan will decline to sanction donald trump in some way. it will probably be a money find but look for this on tuesday morning. look for judge merchan after he opposes the sanction to say a defendant, trump, one more violation and i may have to order you into a jail cell. donald trump cannot usually help himself but we will keep an eye to see if he can have more potential trump charges -- at his rally. the white house reaction to the house passage of aid packages for ukraine in israel that the president has spent months calling for. hs pregn
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aaron gilchrist is joining us live from delaware where he is traveling with the president but we're joined by political analyst brendan buck, who is the former press secretary to -- >> is really a victory for the administration this afternoon. >> reporter: a victory for sure for the administration but the white house has been pushing for this funding for ukraine for israel for the indo-pacific for six months, since october. you remember the present in his second oval office address tuck company to support israel. he laid out the contours of this national security supplemental he wanted to send to congress at the time. a huge portion of it focused on ukraine. we saw him travel to israel and just the day before he made the announcement about this from the oval office talking about the needs of supporting israel
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and the need to make sure that there was humanitarian support for palestinians still living in gaza. of course, the president made a trip to kyiv in the days after the russian assault on kyiv. the mind and -- the by the ministry has been behind israel and ukraine for a long time. and now to have this piece of legislation or b's bills come through the house on their way to the senate is a major win for the biden administration. i want to show you part about the present had to say in the minutes after these two bills came through the house and made their way towards the senate. the present speaking about the bipartisan nature of the passage we saw today saying at this infraction point they came together, the two parties, to answer history's call passing needed national security legislation. i have bought for months to secure for this package will deliver critical support to israel and ukraine, provide
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needed humanitarian aid to gaza, sudan, haiti and other locations impacted by conflicts and natural disasters around the world. and both the security and stability in the indo-pacific as well. the statement went on to say that the president has that i want to thank speaker johnson, leader jeffries and the bipartisan coalition of lawmakers in the house who voted to put our national security first. he encouraged the senate to take this up quickly. we do expect the senate to do that in the early days of next week. of course, while all indicators are that this will come through the senate and pass the senate, it is not a done deal until it is a done deal and the legislation makes it to the present's desk working his signature which would then release some of the aid that the president has talked about, ukraine needing it so badly as it has been barely holding on trying to hold up against russia. >> it cannot come soon enough. aaron, thank you for that. the president did not spend any time attacking speaker johnson over the delay. they reportedly spoke regularly.
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is that strategy vindicated by the outcome today? >> reporter: i think they played it smart. it is only way to do it. i am glad that johnson and biden were back channeling there but it would have been easy for the speaker to get a little greedy and put some of those things and the package that democrats would have projected and making sure the white house was in a good place. and providing, giving johnson the space you need. if joe biden was front and center, it would've been a lot harder. he has been watching the issue but this is clearly a decision by mike johnson to do what he thought was the right thing to do. a lot of republicans did not vote for best but this was atop a vote. i would be lying if i said i did not think the reluctance to give biden a win was on the mind of a lot of republicans who voted no. they handled it well. there is still a long way to go not just in getting the senate bill passed but putting these resources to work in a way that
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will bring outcomes that we are hoping for >> do you think this cost johnson his job? >> reporter: it is a real question. i think it would be difficult to get re-elected right now. there is a lot of factors at play. i don't know he is necessary losing the ball. democrats seem like they will protect him if there was a vote to remove him now. down the road, the next congress, we do not know how big a republican majority is. there is a lot of things that could impact his future. it is a real possibility that he does not survive this. and maybe the biggest thing he has ever done. i don't think that is anything to be shameful about. this was a courageous move for him but he was doing the right thing in his heart but we will find out later whether or not the politics are ugly today to allow that to be rewarded. >> brendan buck, thank you so much for your analysis. that will do for me on this
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