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i was this far from being full fan boy screaming when i saw you. i didn't. i told you later, internally i was. >> let me just tell you, the folks in my car, they saw jose. is that jose? yes, compose yourself and get out of the car like normal people and do not bother him. he is an icon. >> i love you guys. i thank you very much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media. you can watch on youtube sections of this show at msnbc.com/jdb. thank you for the privilege of your time. ryan nobles picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," tensions ramp up at colleges across the nation, including new clashes
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this morning. all after columbia university leaders allow the nypd to enter campus and arrest 300 people in connection to pro-palestinian protests. >> what became clear that public safety was a real concern, especially after the protests escalated the situation by breaking and entering into university buildings, the nypd was called in to do their job. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene puts mike johnson on notice, saying next week she will move forward with her efforts to oust the house speaker from his office, something he could overcome now with democratic support. >> once he became speaker, he has become a man that none of us recognize. mike johnson is not capable of his job. florida's controversial six-week abortion ban goes into
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affect today sending ripple affects far beyond the sunshine state as the political battle over reproductive rights spreads across the country. ♪♪ thanks for joining. i'm ryan nobles in washington. andrea mitchell is traveling with secretary of state blinken in israel who just this morning met with hostage families chanting, bring them home. the war in gaza inflaming protests here in the states. right now, police in riot gear are on college campuses like the university of wisconsin madison, arresting protesters who refuse to leave. some schools asking police to permanently remain on campus for weeks to come. overnight, tensions coming to a head at columbia university in new york city, after school officials called in the nypd to secure hamilton hall after it was occupied by protesters. police broke up violent confront
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confrontations on the campus of ucla. all classes are canceled there today. eric adams echoing concern that outside agitators are taking advantage of the situation. >> these external actors with a history of escalating situations and trying to create chaos, not to peace it wilfully protest, b create chaos. they are attempting to disrupt our city. we are not going to permit it to happen. >> we start with antonia hylton back outside columbia university, and nbc's steve patterson is on the ucla campus. how are students reacting to the nypd and everything that went down last night?
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>> reporter: students are disturbed by what they saw transpire last night. they felt the response was disproportionate, even if not surprising. students describe seeing many of their classmates get arrested, even students who had nothing to do with what happened in hamilton hall but were shouting at the nypd or trying to protest around the streets surrounding columbia or on the campus behind me here. in some ways, they have seen this as traumatizing. that's a word that has come up several times, going back to april 18 when the nypd first arrested about 100 students here. the other challenge that people saw was just simply moving around the area. there were kids who describes being barricaded by the nypd in dorm rooms so they couldn't move to different areas of campus. they couldn't go to sleep if they were in the wrong dorm room and couldn't reach their own bedroom. student reporters were unable to reach studios covering what was happening.
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students on all sides, including students who haven't been supportive of pro-palestinian protests here on campus, you would be hard pressed to find someone who found it exciting or positive to see the nypd here. there's this feeling that even if the protests are over the encampment, hamilton hall is clear now, that the tension is still very much present. it's hard to get back to business as usual and to look forward to graduation, coming on may 15th, whether so much of the community is facing disciplinary action, court summons and more broadly pain associated with all of the conflict here that's transpired the last few weeks. >> antonia, thank you. let's go to steve on the west coast, where the los angeles police department is being criticized for their response last night. steve, tell us what happened and how are students responding today? >> reporter: i think there's this lingering residue, equal parts anger and anxiety from students and protesters who remain here on campus.
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this encampment is right behind me. this is where we probably saw the worst violence that we have seen since this encampment has been on campus. some of that anger, and that of the anxiety, has to do with the response, with police showing up when they did and dividing the protesters and counter-protesters when they did. this started -- what you see on screen -- at 11:00 last night. this came in from a student who gave some video to us as well. counter-protesters flooded this area, from 50 to 100 of them. they tore down some barriers. they used those materials to assault protesters inside. protesters fought back. there were pipes used, fireworks thrown inside the encampment, possibly tasers and pepper spray. this is happening and going on for hours, an extreme amount of time according to one student i
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spoke to. police arrive hours later. when they got here, they mostly stood and watched holding a perimeter around the encampment, protecting the students outside of this before they intervened and divided the students a part of this. we spoke to one student about what he saw of the fear. here is what he told me. >> a group of guys coming in. they started tearing down wood and the gates and tore down flags and started tearing down one by one. people were -- started cussing each other, things got heated. it got violent. i will state that for a fact. i have never seen this tension at all. it did get -- it got ugly. >> reporter: police remain here. the mood here is much more serene than it was a few hours ago with the fact now that classes are canceled for the rest of the day.
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>> antonia and steve, thanks to both of you. let's talk more about this with new york congressman espiat. you called this unacceptable. explain what you mean by that. >> i think that we -- america needs to have a conversation with its young people. it's not a sin to listen to young people. they obviously have an opinion that must be heard. but it cannot occur in the middle of violent, vandalism, or even anti-semitism or hatred. so i am sure it was a difficult decision for the school to bring stability and order back to campus. but that's where we can have a conversation. we can listen to each other. not in an atmosphere of violence or intimidation.
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>> do you agree with the decision to bring the nypd on campus? do you think that was the only option they had? >> i have been around long enough to remember the 1960s and the legacy of columbia and the ability for young people to have freedom of expression is so important to democracy and our nation. but if you are creating an atmosphere of intimidation and other students feel threatened and there is violence and there is vandalism, then obviously, steps must be taken to ensure that everybody is safe, including the students themselves. i'm sure it was a painful decision for the administration. i'm sure that they still are committed to having students have freedom of expression, which is so important to democracy and our nation. >> to that end, congressman, do you think that the administration should have done
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more to open a line of dialogue with these students before it got to the point where it got out of control? did they make mistakes along the way to what we saw play out last night? >> i think there was pretty much ongoing negotiations and dialogue that were fruitless and did not lead to any conclusions. once the takeover of hamilton hall occurred and the way it was done, i think it left no avenue for them but to take other actions. i encourage for there to be an ongoing dialogue with young people. they are not just the future of america, they are the present of america. but it must be done in an atmosphere of peace. anti-semitism cannot be all over the campus where jewish students feel threatened and left alone. they will never be alone. i think that a dialogue for america with its young people, it's right on time.
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>> congressman, thank you for being here. we appreciate it. >> thank you. balancing act. president biden tries to carefully navigate how to speak to the protests on college campuses while standing against anti-semitism and alongside allies in israel. that's next when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 60 seconds, only on msnbc. s, only c that's why i love my swiffer wetjet. it's a quick and easy way to get my floors clean. wetjet absorbs and locks grime deep inside. look at that! swiffer wetjet. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000
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constituency for his re-election chances, and they could feel into the narrative that he presided over disarray at home and abroad, which could alienate middle of the road swing voters. peter, what can the president do to balance these protests and the calls for a cease-fire with his support for israel all while campaigning for re-election? >> it's a very complicated thing. the administration feels like there's a chance for a cease-fire deal with hamas. it's looking hard and it's not clear hamas will go along with it. they have a lot of factors at play there. that's the most important thing that would help calm things at home. the administration and the president's political team tell you that these young people are upset at the president for the
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support of israel. his support among young people has dropped. the larger issue to young people are things like abortion rights, the economy and so forth. by fall, assuming there's a cease-fire in place and campuses have calmed down, it might not be that big a price to pay. you hear democrats worried about this. worried the president has not spoken out more forcefully. he left it to his aides to speak about his feelings about these college campus protests. he does not support anti-semitism. he condemns anti-semitism and violence on the campuses but does support the right to free speech, even if it's opposed to his own policy. >> you mention the fact that the administration is working hard with the partners in the middle east to come up with a cease-fire deal, bring the hostages home. could the protests influence that effort? do you think the negotiators are paying attention to the unrest in the united states? are they two separate issues? >> that's a good question.
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when i talk to national security officials, i don't hear them talk about the domestic issues. it's not something they are focused on. the complicated nature of the diplomacy is hard enough for them. it's an interesting question as to whether or not it emboldened hamas to see these pictures to say, maybe we don't need to make a deal because we are winning the war of public opinion, we are winning over young people. they may over assume how much support they have in the united states. israel has more support than hamas among americans. but the pictures are driving some of the conversation. they may take that into account as they are making a decision. we don't know that. they are not giving us interviews or speaking publically. that's a worry on the part of some negotiators. >> this is going to get more difficult for the president. we are entering into commencement season, which is an opportunity for the president to hit the road, go to swing states, offer up a compelling message about the future.
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he is scheduled to speak at a historically black college in georgia. the faculty feeling apprehensive about that. is this going to be a problem for the president during this particular season because there's so much angst on college campuses? >> going to a college campus is a fraught possibility for the president. he gets protests many places he goes from pro-palestinian left wing demonstrators. they shout at him "genocide joe" and things like that. they can be loud and they have disrupted some of his speaking engagements of the you can imagine at a college campus, some of the students, some of the young men and women, may use that opportunity to make their feelings known. i think that does present a volatile possibility for him this spring as he heads to morehouse. he has one other as well.
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next week, i am going to be calling this motion to vacate.
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absolutely calling it. i can't wait to see democrats go out and support a republican speaker. >> that, of course, marjorie taylor greene this morning saying next week she will pull the trigger on her motion to vacate house speaker mike johnson. she didn't give an exact time line. it comes a day after the house democratic leadership said they would help the republican speaker keep his job. ali vitali and brendan buck. ali, what are we hearing from speaker johnson after this announcement? when can we expect this to happen? >> reporter: a man of a few words, the speaker. this, of course, coming as marjorie taylor greene finally gives us a sense of when she's going to make good on this threat that has hung over house proceedings for the last few weeks, telling reporters this morning that they will launch it
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in a privileged fashion next week. that word privileged is one we have been looking for. that sets the clock that house leaders have two days of legislative days to bring this to the floor for an actual vote. for marjorie taylor greene, next week they come back on monday. that's when we will begin our watch. the speaker said little about this, putting out a 17-word statement that he just reiterated to our colleague here basically saying, the motion is wrong for the republican conference, wrong for the institution of the house and wrong for the country. of course, he gets to say that knowing he has the majority of his republican conference behind him and that democrats are likely to step into the breach and if not outright save his job, then table the motion to get rid of him and get him out of it. >> brendan, we are in an era of unprecedented things happening on capitol hill. this is another unprecedented
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thing, the idea that democratic leadership would step in and help an embattled speaker like this. they did, however, offer up a huge caveat. they only said that this relates to marjorie taylor greene's specific motion to vacate. there is such a tight majority here. if they do get over this hurdle, could they create a new precedent? is this a risky proposition for some democrats? >> i think it's unpopular for a lot of democrats to have to do this. this is still a very conservative republican who they attacked when he was first elevated to speakership. obviously, they are supporting him here because he just brought up the aid to ukraine. they think that was the right thing to do. they don't want to set the precedent to boot the speaker for doing the right thing. what happens after the first vote? marjorie taylor greene is going to be defeated. that's great. she will probably be defeated by a large margin. there's nothing that stops her from bringing it up again and
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again. over time that could get unpopular. they are promising to bail him out once. for jeffries, it's hard to go to his conference and say, we have to bail out the speaker again, especially if they are not getting anything for it. they got ukraine aid before. i don't think mike johnson will give democrats something. he will survive now. it's a very open question as to what happens even just a few weeks down the road. >> ali, expand on that. you have done a lot of reporting in the democratic caucus. how nervous are they about what happens after the first vote? >> reporter: you know this. we have been hearing from democrats, some singularly saying on the record, i will help the speaker out if it gets to a motion to vacate because i want to keep the house functioning. now house leadership on the democratic side making that public yesterday, saying with the full force of the top three leaders that they will back up the speaker by tabling this motion. inside the caucus meeting they
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had yesterday, sources told me that there were questions from within the caucus about the very things that we talk about regularly and that brendan is bringing up right now. this is a man in speaker johnson that the house democratic campaign arm called an anti-abortion advocate. that's true. they have gone after him for that. they have gone after him for his stances against lgbtq+ issues. they have got off him for the role he plays around january 6, being what one member said last year is the chief architect of one of the plans to overturn the electoral college results in various states that were important to president joe biden's win. none of that is far from mind for the democrats. they asked their leader about that in a caucus meeting. they are concerned about the idea, as one member put it, about being cheap dates here. they don't want to get something for nothing. they got ukraine aid. but brendan is right, that's a fading memory.
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they need something if they have to continuously go to the mat for republicans here, especially with a speaker who they do not agree with substantially on anything. >> who would have imagined when kevin mccarthy agreed that one person could call into question the status of the speaker of the house that we would end up with this chaos? maybe all of us knew this would happen. right? what a surprise that it's turned out this way. thank you both. words matter. former president trump gets back on the campaign trail today. it's his comments about his criminal trial which could put him in hot water with the judge back in new york. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc.
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this just in to nbc news. the nypd reports three patients were evaluated for minor injures at columbia last night. columbia is the flashpoint of pro-palestinian protests. student journalists are among those providing firsthand accounts of what's unfolding there from protests, to arrests, to last night's crackdown by the nypd on the occupied hamilton hall. joining me is a senior at columbia university. she's a former nbc news intern who has been reporting on the ground for us. you were there last night. tell us what you saw. >> i'm a student. they restricted our i.d. access
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on the campus. i was outside of campus all day yesterday where i usually go to get food and go to the library. i was out there. i did see the correction buses being loaded up and taken out. a lot of outside protesters, the video on screen is a human chain blocking the students. many of them passively resisted arrest. i couldn't get home. i live close to campus. i was not able to get back. i was trapped in this weird barricade. like you said before, student journalists have been on this from the beginning, are working 24 hours. i saw a lot of my colleagues sitting on bus benches and under awnings when it started raining writing up this information. >> you couldn't get home. where did you end up sleeping last night? >> i ended up getting home.
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i was delayed for a couple hours. they created a frozen zone. they wouldn't let anyone through. they were only letting emergency vehicles and police vehicles through. i talked to several cops. i explained i was -- i lived on campus and i needed to get through this particular street. both sides of broadway and amsterdam were blocked. i was not able to get back to my house. finally, they let me through. >> we should point out, that's your video we are showing. tell me what campus is like today. what are you and your fellow journalists doing to cover the developments amid the police presence? >> yeah. today, campus is still locked out. or i'm still locked out. i haven't been on today. outside, it seems to have kind of returned to a semblance of calm. the encampments are removed.
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it's crazy to see students walking around but not able to get on their campus. student journalists -- i'm checking in with my sources. most of them that i heard back from are providing jail support. they are going down to bring students their belongings or food for when they get out of jail and camping out until there's more information. >> shining example of the importance of student journalism, especially around a story like this. thank you so much for being here. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much. just after the judge in donald trump's hush money trial held him in criminal contempt, trump took to social media calling the trial rigged and attacking judge merchan as highly conflicted. while that post doesn't violate the gag order, it is close.
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joining us to talk about this, joyce vance and former federal prosecutor paul butler. joyce, let's start with you. court not in session today. it will kick off tomorrow. they will start with a hearing on this gag order. donald trump is on the campaign trail today. how much trouble could he get himself into in the next 24 hours or so? >> yeah, with donald trump, you never know. right? it's clear that this post does not cross the line established by the gag order. the judge has made himself fair play. trump will get into trouble if he continues to talk about witnesses. he was particularly sharp about michael cohen and stormy daniels in past weeks. he seems to have moderated his behavior. if he crosses the line again, the judge made it clear, future violations may have to be dealt with by custodial time. >> that means he could
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potentially be put in jail? >> absolutely. the law that the judge is operating under ties his hands. it only gives him two remedies. up to $1,000 in a fine. the judge wrote yesterday in his order that the law doesn't give him the flexibility to set a fine amount that's appropriate in the circumstances. he recognizes that this fine has not force against donald trump. the judge says, look, here is what comes next. the law authorizes me to impose up to 30 days in jail. that could be overnight in a holding cell at the courthouse. but it would be a wake-up for donald trump. >> yeah. paul, let's talk about the situation with the witnesses that have testified so far. how do you think the prosecution has tried to connect the dots in the story they are trying to tell the story? >> paying hush money is not a crime. sometimes this is incorrectly referred to as a hush money
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trial. the prosecution has to connect it to the fake business records. keeping fake business records is a crime. the fake business records to election interference. fake business recorders, that's a misdemeanor. if bragg can prove it violated tax laws, that gets him a felony. we have witnesses like keith davidson, the lawyer for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, who yesterday got connected -- he connected the dots. he demonstrated how high the stakes were for trump after the "access hollywood" tapes came out. the next day, stormy daniels threatens to go public with her story. they had to do something. the other importance of the testimony yesterday was connecting trump, through michael cohen, to the conspiracy, to this dole to shut
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up stormy daniels to advance trump's campaign. >> how difficult is it to make that clear to a jury? the hush money part seems like an easy thing to digest. connecting all the complicated dots, how hard is that? >> i looked at the opening statement once again. it's compelling. they are not presenting this as the crime of the century. bragg was willing to let the federal cases go forward. the supreme court didn't cooperate with that in d.c. judge cannon didn't cooperate in terms of advancing that case. he is not claiming that this is the crime of the century. he is presenting a very methodical case that's, i think, kind of easy for the jury to understand. they know these payments were fraudulent. they will learn that. the hardest part is connecting trump to the conspiracy, because he likes to keep his hands off. >> great. paul, joyce, thank you. we appreciate it. tense negotiations. secretary blinken meets with hostage families in israel as he
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u.s. position on rafah hoping to prevent a ground assault there. netanyahu vows to invade with or without a cease-fire. blinken met with families of those loved ones who are being held in gaza. he then spoke briefly with demonstrators outside repeating his message to those families. >> bringing your loved ones home is at the heart of everything we're trying to do. we will not rest until everyone, man, woman, soldier, civilian, young, old is back home. please keep strong, keep the faith. we will be with you every single day until we get this done. >> joining me now is raf sanchez who is in tel aviv. what else can you tell us about the meeting with the prime minister?
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>> reporter: this was a long meeting, longer than scheduled. two main topics, one, progress on the cease-fire deal, and two, israeli threats to invade rafah. in terms of the cease-fire deal, israel and the united states appear to be on the same page. we just heard a couple moments ago from secretary of state blinken. he was down at the port. he reiterated a message that he said earlier this week in saudi arabia and also in jordan, which is, from the perspective of the united states, israel has made serious concessions, that there's a very generous offer to hamas on the table right now. under this offer, hamas would release 33 hostages from the so-called humanitarian category, women, children, elderly, people with medical conditions. in return, israel would agree to a 40-day cease-fire and to the release of potentially thousands of palestinian prisoners. israel and the u.s. are waiting
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for hamas to formally respond to the offer. we spoke to a senior hamas official earlier today. he said the group is taking its time. it's studying this proposal. one of the major sticking points is whether this is a deal for a pause in the fighting, which is what israel says it wants, it wants to resume its offensive on rafah on the other side of any deal, or whether this is a negotiation about ending the wall all together, which is what hamas wants. bridging that gap is a key part of the negotiations. when it comes to rafah, israel and the united states are not on the same page. it does not appear that the two sides resolved what is a pretty fundamental difference during this marathon meeting today. secretary blinken reiterating the american position, which is that the u.s. feels any israeli invasion of rafah without a credible plan to get those million plus palestinian civilians out of the way would be a disaster in terms of loss
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of innocent life but also disruption of the flow of humanitarian aid into gaza, which is something the u.s. has been has been trying to ramp up in recent weeks. netanyahu says israel has no choice but to go into rafah to destroy the remaining hamas battalions that are hiding there. he says israel is going in with or without a deal. he has indicated he is prepared to delay an israeli ground offensive if there is an agreement. but that he will not put it off all together. >> a lot of developments on the ground there. raf sanchez, thank you for that. let's talk more about this with congressman schneider. you were just in saudi arabia at the world economic forum. the secretary was there as well. he said, the one -- the only thing standing between the people of gaza and a cease-fire is hamas. it does appear there's a renewed sense of urgency to get this deal done. is there a fear from the
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administration's perspective, your perspective, this may be the last good opportunity that we have to get this done? >> thank you. i can't speak for the administration. we have seen multiple offers made to hamas where israel has agreed. these have been brokered by the united states, qatar and egypt, to bring the hostages home in exchange for a pause in fighting. it opens the door to bring all the hostages home, not just a few released at the beginning. these are hostages living as well as those dead, to bring their bodies and allow the families closure. to set a course to make sure hamas cannot control gaza in the future and israel and the palestinians can find a path towards a new direction. hamas has rejected all of those. this is in all likelihood the last one on the table that's available as secretary blinken said. the israelis reduced their initial demand to accepting 33 hostages as well as the release of many prisoners -- palestinian
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prisoners, including convicted terrorists with blood on their hands. this is something that hamas has to choose. >> you were just in israel recently. you met with the president. you met with netanyahu and the defense minister. what did you get out of those conversations? >> we saw that israel is fighting a war against hamas. you have conflict on the north with hezbollah. houthis are firing rockets. at the core of that is iran. israel has the fact that there are 133 hostages that need to come home. long-term, israel is looking for a strategy where it can have its security. the united states is saying that security is dependent upon not just finding a resolution to the war in gaza, but creating the opportunity for israel's normalization of relationships between the abraham accords but
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with saudi arabia and integration for the room on. then the ultimate defeat of hamas will be when israel and its neighbors are living in peace. >> we have seen demonstrations across the country at college campuses. how concerned does that make you? how do you think the differences between these protesters and these administration officials can be resolved? >> let me start with saying that it's the right of all americans for the students to speak their minds. there will be some who you 50 -- who you agree and some you don't. i defend everyone's right to have their say. each those who are completely wrong and often completely vile. that doesn't give them the righ the vandalism we see is very different, so the protests are one thing. the actions of many of these groups on campus is something else. we need the administrations to step up and to speak out against many of these actions, and when
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the students cross the line as we saw at columbia, when it crosses the line into vandalism and destruction, those students need to face the consequences of the law. >> and while i have you here, one off topic, that's the situation with marjorie taylor greene. she's decided that she is going to pull this motion to vacate against speaker johnson. your democratic leadership has said they will support a motion to table. where are you? >> leader jeffries asked the caucus, i was one of the ones who stood up and spoke, that this is very different than what happened last september, october when then speaker mccarthy basically thumbed his nose a the democrats. what speaker johnson did by bringing the bills to provide aid for taiwan, which passed with 385 votes, israel, 366 vote, ukraine 311 votes, this had overwhelming support. i am not prepared to penalize the speaker for taking this action. my colleagues overwhelmingly agreed with me and leadership made it clear that we will not allow this action by marjorie
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taylor greene to go forward. that was the right thing to do. every day is a new day. what we hope is maybe this sets a new path, what speaker johnson hopefully recognized and we achieved is that by working together, bringing people in the middle to move things forward, it's not just national security bills like we passed two weeks ago or two saturdays ago, we need to fund the faa, we need to pass a farm bill, and finding that bill is a way to go. >> you only feel comfortable with this first motion to vacate. if subsequent ones come down the pike, you're going to have to assess each individually, right? >> what i'm hoping is speaker johnson learned from the experience of getting something really important done by working across the aisle. if he continues to do that, that's wonderful. many people are saying we want a new speaker. i want a new speaker. we have an election in november. hopefully the democrat, and i expect the democrats will take the majority in the house. >> congressman, great conversation.
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i appreciate you. a ripple effect, the impact of florida's six-week abortion ban going into effect today could be felt beyond the sunshine state. a look at how far some women will be forced to go for reproductive health care. that's next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. "andrea l reports" only on msnbc busy working from home... ...so he scheduled with safelite in just a few clicks. we came to his house... then we got to work. we replaced his windshield... ...and installed new wipers to protect his new glass. >> customer: looks great. thank you. >> tech: my pleasure. >> vo: we come to you for free. schedule now for free mobile service at safelite.com. ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. that's great. i know, i've bee telling everyone. baby: liberty. oh! baby: liberty. how many people did you tell? only pay for what you need. jingle: ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ baby: ♪ liberty. ♪
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and they're all coming? talk to a healthcare provider those who are still with us, yes. grandpa! what's this? your wings. light 'em up! gentlemen, it's a beautiful... ...day to fly. vice president harris has just arrived in jacksonville, florida. this is her second visit there in less than a year to highlight the far right's attacks on
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reproductive freedom. as of this morning, florida has one of the nation's most restrictive abortion bans. nbc's yamiche alcindor is in charlottesville, virginia, at a clinic that is staffing up and staying open late to treat the influx of out of state patients. yamiche, what are you finding there? >> that's right, the staff here at whole woman's health clinic in charlottesville is bracing for an influx of patients from florida and really all of the southeast as florida's new six-week abortion ban for most abortions takes effect. they're telling me that they're adding hours as you said. they're also going to be trying to get more doctors to come here. they're also treating women who are farther along in their pregnancy. actually, they extended the number of weeks that women are going to be able to be pregnant. i'm standing right where these new patients will be sitting.
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we were here embedded talking to people in this health clinic. they say that these seats right here, they're trying to make them calm. they're trying to make them in a way to feel like the women here will be able to sort of let go of their anxiety. there are a lot of women who are coming driving hours and hours from out of state to get the help they want here and the treatment they need here. i want to play for you sound from the ceo of the health clinic. she said she's feeling for the clinics in florida that are going to have to turn women away. take a listen to what she said. >> every one of us who provides abortion has had to look someone in the eye and say i can't help you today. i could have helped you five minutes ago. i could have helped you yesterday, and now you have to go elsewhere and be denied that care, and when you're put in that position where there's that one real human in front of you whose life is greatly impacted, it's not abstracted, it's unforgettable denying somebody care just because of, you know,
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politics. >> and that ceo told me she's already had to close all of the clinics that were associated with this network in texas, which is why she feels so much for the people in florida, but here this clinic in charlottesville, they said they rarely used to see out of state patients. now in 2024 they've seen 25% of their patients come from out of state. now treating multiple patients a day from out of state. i also wanted to stress they're really a trying to not only beef up the sort of treatments and opportunities here, they're talking about opening up new abortion clinics on the border of virginia as far south as they can go. it really tells you that the abortion providers here in virginia and north carolina and other places, they're trying their best to really help the women that are now going to be coming from places like florida but also alabama and louisiana, ryan. >> it doesn't seem like a huge clinic. i mean, i imagine that this is going to be quite a load that they're going to be forced to deal with. >> reporter: it's going to be
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quite a load that they're going to be dealing with, and they are telling me that they're welcoming this work. i was talking to the ceo and a patient advocate who was talking to me about a woman who came from florida, she drove 11 hours. she was a mother of three. she came here. she was stressed and they told me they felt they were relieved that they were able to give her the health care she needed, which in her case was giving her an abortion. i have to show people again, we rarely get to be inside an abortion clinic. when you see these chairs it looks sort of like a spa, they have purple walls to calm the women. they want to make sure the women here when they come, they can feel like they're taking a load off. they're coming with all this anxiety and all this stress from having to travel from out of town, ryan. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you for that report. we appreciate it. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on