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repeated union. all right, so why would the georgian prime minister be scratching his head over to use all position to this particular law? maybe because the process itself unveiled similar legislation last december against for an implant, citing the need to bolster democracy with the need for organizations and individuals to formally declare their activities and funding in a public register under financial pendants penalty for noncompliance. now, where did you get this idea something new? well, from washington's foreign ages, registration tax fair act. so of course, washington would be all in favor of the george in law. right. this legislation in georgia in dreams, anti western rhetoric put georgia on a precarious trajectory. the statements and the actions of the george and government are incompatible with the democratic values that underpin membership in the you and nato invest jeopardize georgia's path to euro. atlantic integration use of force to suppress peaceful assembly. and freedom of speech is unacceptable. and we urge authorities to allow non violent protesters to continue to exercise their
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right to freedom of expression. yeah, let george's pro medalie supporters protests. it's not like the modeling is russian, right? because is our, the case. they be all for a law to prevent it. so if it's not russian modeling that the west is opposing, d wonder who could possibly be, must be minor of life straightness. wrapping it up here and i'll tell you, thank you so much for joining us today. was keeping in mind that one of our stories and updates are remaining fluid online with a multi calm telegram odyssey and gab load the places the casual latest news from onto the meantime. the ticket for should look around this life kaleidoscopic isn't just
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a shifted reality distortion. by power to vision with no real live indians. fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really one say better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st? can you see through their illusion going underground? can the the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm peter live out west,
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her lips endlessly declared. they are virtuous because of their so called values. the assault on the palestinians destroys the midst of their virtues and reveals they have no values at all. you know, this is the case when they say, i believe in free speech, but the prospect in palestine. i'm joined by my guess, lionel in new york. he is a legal in media analyst in the kitchen, or we have roberts latina, he is a journalist, as well as author of settler colonialism in palestine and cashmere. and until then we crossed to mohammed mirandi, who was the professor at the university of doran, cried filming cross cypress, and effect. that means you can tell me anytime you want, and i always appreciate why don't let me go to it for you 1st here, you're our residents in the fishbowl. so you're, but your opinion is very valuable to us. the us house passed a bill that would conflate criticism of israel with anti semitism. i thought when you became a member of congress who took an oath to the constitution,
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or am i getting something wrong to? this is the constitution of the united states, and i hold it up and people say, there you go again. peter, i don't even know how to tell you that this week i'm finding myself aligning with people that i swore i would never agree with. as of the time of day, jerry nod lettering adler with jerry now. adler, who was a mighty congress person who, who is devoid of any even scintilla of reality, is a jew or a member is saying, anti semitism is a violent or excuse me, probations against the slot the for the i the issue, the bad you semitism is against the notion of a breeze please. it's unconstitutional. i just heard you're not gonna believe this from the n y p, the police counter intelligence unit. a woman say that she's concerned
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about i d is being discussed on campuses that deal with terrorism and get this people wearing scarves, head oh, and bands associated with terrorism going to get is this the co fee? yeah, i think he, what is happening one minute we have the n y, b, d, r, resting no one for anything. now we're talking about id ation. thought, and it's one last thing. it's not the thought police i worry about is the 5 digit land to use. because if you watch fox news, oh my god, because what, what country am i live? well, yeah, exactly, mohammed and so then again, you know, there were uh, the rules based order. uh, they liked to echo, but look what they did to the students that uh, the university of california, los angeles. they allowed vigil land teeth. they come in and clear those students
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using extreme force. and from what i understand, the police were either not there, or they just watched professor, as you know, what is amazing is that the united states and it's western allies. they don't seem to recognize that the world has changed. people see what's going on in new york, on campus at columbia university. they see what's going on in u. c. l. a while people in the united states are in the east coast may be a sleep. people in asia are watching the video visual and he's crush the protesters. so the united states and the europeans, not only are they violating all of the principles that they tend to support. and not only is this rule based order, very different from what we are told that was supposed to be to be. but the united
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states and europeans are destroying their own soft power. they've already destroyed it yet, but they are dirt their main street making sure that nothings left. well, it certainly is the same robbery as we were captivated and rightfully so. what was going on with these anti war anti genocide? what's called? it's called them what they should be called. okay. protests. we had, the slaughter continue in cost is always very interesting. we said, all we see is the use of force without any legitimate backing to it whatsoever. what is real is that is doing is genocidal. and what the police are doing in the united states and breaking the law on so many different levels. and then you have the prime minister of israel, coordinating, it seems like a facial them in the united states. the what the, what to do about of crushing defense against his country and his regime. you can't get it. you can't make this stuff up. robert. know you can't and it's kind of
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shocking to think the end of the year 2024 people are arrested for opposing genocide. and this idea of the uh, the uh, anti israel participants visual. be able to submit a, this is, this is an has for a long time, because even before, it could've been caught in a fight and lost the professors are afraid to talk about in your class. if they're talking about a colonialism, maybe the tongue. busy canadian colonialism, certainly, or quoted as ned states, and if they ask their students, can you give us an example of colonialism? if they say, yes, israel and palestine, they can get in trouble for that and it makes students feel uncomfortable. well, if you're in university, you're going to get a comfortable sometimes that just comes with the territory because you're gonna be learning different things of being exposed to different ideas. so being uncomfortable, it's not criminal. then as you mentioned, benjamin netanyahu tell him tonight, it states that they have just to, to squash these or crush these,
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these protests who is the leader of any other country, let alone one that's been declared. and a part i presume by, by several very respect was human rights organizations to tell you, i did states how to deal with campus protest. this is actually, this is bizarre, this is unreal. it's likely. busy down some, some rabbit whole somewhere. yeah. and we, and we have in the haven't learn any of the important lessons of the last 75 years last a 100 years. when it comes international relations. we have the genocide conventions because a genocide was committed line. oh, you're a lawyer here, attorneys inside the bite administration or the us to cut off is real. also a group of 90 lawyers including 20, within the administration. se israel's actions do not comply with us and international law. mean these are lawyers within the administration. okay. it's, it's, they shouldn't be shocked by people being demonstrating against their own lawyers. no, it's wrong lines. i even know where,
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where to start with or something. let me just do a couple of things on here. is that the same people, gentleman who, who, who and i was one of the who said, why are you arresting j 6 protestors. many of these people were just standing there or they were part of a washington tour or the said, hey, what's all this noise next? we, you know, there, there are there crowd and thrown into one underground go rod for the, for god knows how long. and they argued against this. we have jill stein yet, who is in the dictionary next to meek and passive and ha, i'm not horrible, isn't intellectually, but just the nicest. she's just standing there being cooperate, why? the police? and they said, well, she shouldn't have been there. then this is the best part, the media will focus on these. lona techs who come forward. there was a woman who stood before a self appointed spokesperson, an expert, the media relations complaining about the fact that her food service cards had been
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discontinued and the can't get certain bottled water when there get this protesting against har. ready. terrific. a star vision in gaza and this woman is arguing about she didn't get the right flora data water. i mean, this is, it is in say, and there's also can cognitively peaceful, virility, your discussions never discussed, never mentioned by anybody in mainstream media, constructive jose, uh, a palestinian talking without any problems. nobody talks about. yeah, it would be the interesting thing is, is that it seems to me that again, these protests are need to be covered. we're discussing them right now. but there is a defense of being organized against profit. and i think with this passage of this legislation center will go along with it. you know, of course this is just proforma, but they,
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they want to shut down any discussion and didn't debate when that invasion starts. i feel it in my bones go ahead moment. but what are they going to do when it does start? and when the genocide intensifies, when uh, the daily footage that we see on our cell phones gets worse. and when this riley machine will also fail on the ground, as it has already failed and causes the city in the north and elsewhere, what will happen in the united states will be students and other students remain quiet or well. the anger and discontent grow. and regardless of what happens in, in the united states, what will the rest of the world do? what will the people in the global south do what, what ordinary people in europe do? how will they respond to this? when they see on the one hand, the united states is crushing dissent when it's sending funds to
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u. c. l. a to beat and bad, or these students who as drew a guest, right, the point that we're just protesting, genocide, they're not doing anything but they're not even protesting against the, the, the u. s. regime. they're protesting about what another regime is doing to you know, to, to wipe out the policy, need people. so what, what is going to happen when the attack on the roof begin is only going to make things worse for washington is going to make things worse for london. in fact, what, what do people in the global south think when they think when they look at china and the united states? so they see freedom versus authoritarianism. when they look at iran or mosque out tap, ron or moscow, what do they see? the, the united states as free and tap ron and mosque out as a for a terry and they don't see it that way. any more. why? because the capability of the western media to enforce this narrative across the
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world has collapsed. right now when i speak. i recently, i had a, an interview with piers morgan. and the reaction was hostile towards him. not towards me because people are seeing through the this matter. so the united states is demolishing its empire. it's already been doing so. but this is, i think the last day it's, it's really interesting. how did you bring that up here? is morgan because he had on the professor mirror showing me or, and i never so i, i, i've never seen in my life a host embarrassed himself by his own stupidity and a double down and a triple out. and it was just amazing that he even put it on youtube anyways. so humiliated. but that's what, that's what happens when you, you support the powers that be and you don't interrogate troops. ok, that's i, i think that's what force. how do we, what we're going to see, more of gentlemen, i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. i'm powerless by state bar to
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the the video of alleged abuse by an officer today for sheriff's deputy and columbia, south carolina forcibly removed a student from a classroom at spring valley high school. i saw him just talked to her who sprained
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her and initially, you know, i didn't think is a problem because i knew that she was just this quiet student in the class. someone looked at the police officer and says, here was law enforcement that is worse. clearly attacking, abusing power and influence and other than others besides, this is what's wrong with the poorly be on discipline. black children, he was there, enforcing a lot to meet in the crime, to quote, disturb schools in any way. that means any disturbance that any kids causes and school is using force has never prayed for necessary. a tops people were never gonna change your mind. so people who never change their minds about video, they think i was wrong. and that's it. the welcome back. across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle to mind you were discussing policy the
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right. let's go to robert here. robert. it's very interesting. they indic waiting times. it comes to is real. it's always an exception. it's different. uh they, it's a special case, etc. but actually if you look at what's going on a miss, nothing. yeah. who's campaign against the obviously the people of gaza but also targeting him us. this is just another example of a forest regime change that started in the former yugoslavia and went all to the middle east. and now they're trying to do it in, in gaza. but roberts, i'd like to point out, it never works and never works out the way you expect it to. and they're trying. and again, these people have no learning curve, and professor mirandi is absolutely right. they're their soft power of abilities are dissipating or it's gone. go ahead, robert. yes, it, it never works because the states, other western governments forget that people in different countries have loyalty to
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their countries. they have a way that they want their, their governments to run. they don't want to be forced into some kind of a form of government that is not to their liking. one example going back a while is, is iran with united states and 1953, i believe, was over to the government of iran and installed the doodle shop. and he will for doing 30 years. i believe it was until the people of iran river over to him and, and it's taught a government to their liking. now any government has problems, any governance issues. they're going to be some people that disagree with certain government policies. doesn't mean the one over to the government, and they tell me doesn't mean that they want a government forced by the united states to be, to be installed in their, in their nation. and when we talked about the forthcoming rasa innovation, which is going to be just so brutal and so bloody and how the, this new bar repressing descent is going to play out in it. people who are
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protesting know that they're following all the rules that the government sets for their, their protest. the process is worthless. it's, it's an exercise in futility. so if in the university campuses, people are, they have to have 2 days. notice that they're gonna have a protest, they have to be in one certain area and stay there. well, they know that's a waste of time, which is will not bother still going to take action. that is going to get them publicity and get what i'm well, i mean a rubber today. i agree with you. i mean, if the authorities aren't going to play by the rules and why should the students say this is what we're just sending into the abyss right now a little, you know, you love words. you know, again, this whole phrase um, from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. well, who has the right to determine what that means? because when i say it, when i think about it, i think about everyone being free, the palestinians, jews, secular, people, all people being equal from the river to the sea, but i can get them
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a lot of trouble. i probably have already gotten myself into trouble by saying that, but i will not allow someone to tell me what my words mean. go headlines. well, either a couple of things to do this is you, you, you talking about great words. i go back to the words of our senator daniel patrick moynihan, who brought above locks the most nearly beloved occasion. one time, which is the action of estimating is worthless, which is what i feel i'm doing. what i'm trying to explain to people what's going on at least here, let me give you the example. there was a senator who said, because there was a talk of bite and bringing folks over from gaza to the united states. oh no, no, no, we can't do that way my why? well, because their home, my supporter and their id already and i. so i asked, and somebody said, you know, you're right about that because if there's one thing we got to get to the bottom of, it's all the fun to know, cartels in gaza, i mean, what are you talking about as a whole lot again, right now next they talk about ideology, i said,
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why wasn't anybody interested in the, as all battalion and right sector, and neo nazis in ukraine? you, so just stick with your program. i'll go along with you, but you can change the rules in mid stream and then expect to, and by the way, i sound like the most unpatriotic all only in america. could you pull this off where you could save the most? blatantly loaded chris, hypocritical nonsense and nobody will call you out because we don't know because remember in, in here how much gaza is real. but if this is just gone low of term, what does managed to email that line? oh it's, it's a liberalism. okay, and it's toxic and it can kill you and it certainly kills a lot of people around the world mohammed. one of the interesting things for me is that, you know, when they mention it in the media, when they talk about israel, well, let's be more specific. this is a zine is presume it is run by
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a zionist ideology and people that adhere to it. okay. and what we have is design ization of the west. okay. a willingly allowing themselves to be colonized by these ideas. yes, and it is, it is the starting, the rest, the west. and but what is what is happening now is because of the sheer boot talent to of this right of the machine. people are waking up to this fact the reason why they're passing this law is big is because they're desperate. and i think it shows how there's ravings and design this lobby, which by the way, is there more christian scientists, as we all know, been to a scientists and the many scientists who are secular. so this, this has nothing to do with do days and may need use a completely against this genocide. and this really regime in the same is true with, with christians and others. but there's really what she doesn't care about the
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united states. it doesn't here i oh yeah, is willing to sacrifice the credit ability and the image of the united states for its own sake. there's really prime minister says, crush defense and a crush dissent. there's really redeem calls on the united states to silence these, these young people and these people will be scientists. what does that have? as i said earlier, it destroys the united states image abroad, but it also destroys the image of the united states for the younger generation. young americans who were taught to believe that this was the land of the free and the home of the brave. now they are waking up to a reality, which is almost ex, exact opposite of what they were told. yeah. yeah, there's makers, but they realize that they are brave, but they're, they're governed by cowards. that's what they are. cowards. ok, it's interesting, robert,
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you to be up until october 7th is if that should be the center of everything. it was, it was an important day, but there's a long history before. but before october 7th, at least for the western world, particularly americans that are intentionally on an on educated about this is that remember the phrase, it's complicated that was always it of, oh just because it's been going on along to its complement. that's no longer the case. people are being educated, they're educating themself. it is easy to do that. and this is what the leads were afraid of. they were afraid of the truth. yes, they are. the fact, the idea that this is complicated is just a method spend a minute perpetuated by us government officials and the very obedient media for decades. it isn't complicated, all it involves international law and basic human rights laws and rights that are in trying to and united nations step united states has signed onto and united states has violated them. you guys violated its own laws to lady law, for example,
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which says that a military aid cannot be given to a country that doesn't reach a certain minimal standard of human rights is here it is real. comes nowhere near close to that. there are other domestic laws that it, it violates there's a big complicate about this. this is not a religious issue. it is not the jews versus muslims at all. it is an issue of colonialism, of one very dominant nation, repressing a nation with no army. maybe no military whatsoever. and the dominant nation is supported by the most powerful nation on the planet. there's nothing equal about the, the conflict. it's not a war. it's not, it's simply a genocide. it's been a slow going genocide for decades of israel has attempted with some success to erase palestine by stealing land, displacing member of palestinians, and killing many thousands of them over the over the decades. so it's not that complicated about this and that narrative is finally finally being switched and
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being recognized for what it is, which is just a major lie. and it's not holding water anymore. you know, line one of the big problems about getting to controlling this narrative of what's going on in god's in, in the right to protest is that there's a lot of american jews involved in these protests here. and they just have a hard time explaining that away vinyl. oh, absolutely. and. and again, many people believe that there is this monolithic organizational. yeah, that you, you, you, you, you become a member of the club and this is your articles of faith. i gotta tell you this one, this is the best part about this. you're talking about people that i'm listening to . i thought i was hallucinating. i'm listening to michael moore the other night. i'm thinking, oh my god, he'd make sense. let me tell you what's gonna happen in about 6 months. there's gonna be the election and donald trump's going to win this thing and if he ever thank anybody, he'll say, i want to say joe biden. i want to think this ridiculousness because gentleman,
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what's happening right now is people, especially in new york, are seeing, hey, that's what the police look like irrespective of what they're doing, whether right or wrong. but people are saying, you know, we have been so bereft of this notion of law and order. and gavin newsome in california the governor who was supposedly up until just recently going to be the last and it could be the replacement. the candidate california is tumbling into the sea, is daily then with in tone. it is a cut pastor of feet and people are now saying, what does this sound like, peter? we always go back to watch, out of $9068.00 order law and order next in chicago. look at what people doing is you idiots. you so i don't know why. oh, i wish i could be that optimistic. well, i'm going to finish up the program with my home, and here is that we have this unit party here. we have republicans, and we have democrats here in there on the wrong. these leaders are on the wrong
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side of history. and i think that's what there's a class will be a societal class against the leads and got one minute go ahead. i think that's a really important point. i think both of you are correct in the sense that trump will probably be elected. but i think increasingly, people across the board are going to see that trump will be no different than biden . and that is going to create even further at this illusion meant among americans. they will see increasingly that the united states is not a democracy. it's one of despotic regime with 2 factions which agree on almost everything, almost every for exactly. well, unfortunately, you know, this is a way if it's the election is going to be determined by donors and it probably will be, we're gonna find ourselves exactly in the same dreadful place gentlemen, that's all the time we have one to. thanks my guess is in case you in our new york and in colorado. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at
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