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Index Bnpptemfliit to the NotM and Qneries, with Ko. 185, July 15, 1871.
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NOTES AND QUERIES;
iHeliium ot intercommunication
FOB
LITERARY MEN, GENERAL READERS, ETC.
* When fommlf «ia1i3 c ndU'ol'*-^ Captain Ccttle.
FOURTH SERJES.— VOLUME SEVENTH.
January — June 1871.
LONDON:
PUBLISHED AT THB
OFFICE, 43 WELLINGTON STREET, STRAND, W.C.
1871.
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4<fcS.VIL JjkK.T.Tl.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
1
I
CX)NTENTS.— N«> 158.
KOTF!* r — AlT^rnr V ?n " ^h^ Yr\^'T\iy Q^fPn." 1 — lH?tt<?rf of
— ' : . . _ -' *■ - : _ |^fi_
17 —
i' iiU'ii iii^cv nv ijnv*r tJold-
>al<'B — The Fjitc Sir Sutimel
.• . ' I iJin::au Lift' — French War Songi — .Jflont
<;--M- i'-b net. 9.
11, Ronp'*— Artn^ ; I'nniilifa —
j: f Samllwch— Bil' iii» — Jr.hn
i: ^ -^1 TMl»— Cobbi. Ill lUly —
• I 'i«oko — Coriiiali B|j(*keii in D«von-
1 - £iist4>m Siorv — Sir Chaile/i Eirer-
nrinl«t Hooks— Tim Print of " (iuido'« Aurora'' — Xiie
iVonuiiciatiun of Greek aiid Latin* Ac^ U.
BBPLtES: -Til* " r .^^^ jj _ Parodies, 15 — The
" Bfiif* Law^ " lit, 16- St. Aui^atin'A 8er-
i«m«. T7 - A ^^ ' '^ — Robur t*;-irotl — Pi-r^r Tren
— ii rlcr AnoH— Barf
on L 'U Eipeditiou ~ i
<if \. ; .i*if — rt\nirnl"vr.r
:' 1*11100 of llio }'rr.paj(^n'iafor Ubrist-
- The Farts Catacombs, Ac, 18.
Bfitoa on llonka« 4o.
ALLEGORY IN *^TU£ TAEEIE QUEENV
Spenser stjle* his poem '' o continued allegory
ordijrk coaceit*' J but he does not by that mean
taity thftt it forms ona contioued aHegorv in Ihe
laitein which we now tinder? tan d the term. In
fact there is but one aUegory in it — namely^ the
fi«t book, " The Legend of lloline?s '■ ; and in all
tie rest tjf the poem the characters are mere
impersonationB ot moral or physical qualities, or
of ntl D«r^>n9f withont any f^pecially connected
Urm of Mvents* I will here brie lly state my con-
'What I rejrard aa the only allegory of
TIn>. then, I take to be' the history
'^^ '^ ^ from ita comuiencement trll the
pw* ^ .In Una I *ee, not Truth mmnly^
"i"( li; in Daessa, not mere Faiee-
i - ^ Church^ — that of Rome. The
a^r of Una, tbo ldn<7 and queen
* to be God the Father and the
> r.^ ^-"*"tafchal Church. In the
it enemy of man, Satan,
it the Chriijtian people,
je, the patron saint of
iipion of the true faith ;
, Satan in his character
t the knight begin with his
of Error, and hii* encounter-
^i aiwi filK)iJig that moiujter. By thia is pro-
II
bably meant the conflict with the various fonDft
of religious error or heresy in the Church. Arch-
imnge then tries hi^ wiles, and sepwates tha
knight from Una; but hu doing eo by making
him suspect her purity seems rather to break the
allegory. Ilowever, he abandons ber, and thea
falLd in with Due^sa in company with a *' faithleaa
Sarazin " named Sansrfoy, that i^^ Pagtinism, whom
he slays; and he is then deceivetl l>y Dtit'ii'*rt, who
conducts him to the House of Pride, thnt ia, the
Roman Empire, which now becomf^a Christiati.
Here he encounters and slays a brother of Sao&foy,
named Sans joy, by which ia perhaps meant the
joyless condition of the Empire when separated
from the True Church, On hii? discovering tha
real nature of the House of Pride, he seizea the
earliest opportunity of tlight, and abaTidoris it.
Una meanwhile wanders alone in search of the
champion who bad deserted her. She inefetd with
a lion, who becomee her protector. Thi^ Hon
ioTci^s an entrance for her into the houae of Cor-
ceca and Abeiaa, and kills Kirktapine, the para-
mour of the latter; but is himstilf t^bitn soon after,
defending Una against a Paynim natned Siineloy.
who had overcome Arch image, who bad rejoined
her under the form of the Red-ci'o«8 Knight. From
bim she is delivered by a band of fawns and
satyns whom her sliri^ks brought to her aid.
They lead her to their abode in the woods and
mountains^ where she livea among them and in-
fltruets them in morala and religion. By the ud
of a knight named Sir Satyrane ehe leaves them,
and sets out again in quest of the lied- cross
Knii^ht
In this part of the allegory the lion »eem3 to
signify the counts of TouloiJj*e, who protected the
True Church against that of Home, and gained ita
members admi-ssiou into the religioua boiigea
against the will of their inmates, and pu«ij>hed
those who made spoil of sacred thinga. By i\^^
ra>'nim Sau&loy may be meant the papal adherents
under De M on i fort and others, who overcame the
counts of Toulouse, and from whom Una is eaved
bv the fiatyrs, that is, the Wnlden**efl, whose
abode was m the woods and valleya of Switzer-
land, Sir Satyrane, who is connectt-nl with them,
I take to represent the Huguenots of France, who
derived their creed and their name from the
Informer of Switzerland ; and it is very remark-
able that he and Sansloy are left Cghling— just
as the Huguenots and the Papiata were a I the
time — and are not mentioned any more in thia
book.
The Red-crosa Knight meantime is overtaken
and again aeduced by Diiessa, and be drinks of a
fountain, the water of which quite enervalei* him,
and he is then seized and thrown into a loath-
some dungeon by ft huge giant, ^ who makea
Duessa his leman, dresses her magnificently, nnd
mounts her on a strange beast witk aeTen heads*
2
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Here , then we have in tbis giant Charlemagne
and his aucceaaors, the power and i*lory of the
PflpacT, and the mifierahle thraldom of the
Christian people. ]
Una havinfr learned the fate of her knight, now
appeals to Prince Arthur^ whom she meeta ; and
he tights and &kys the giaot, deUvera the knight, *
and strips and exposes Duessa, who Hie^ to bide '
her ahame in the wilderness. Prince Arthur, the '
poet tella us, is Magnificence, i, e. the doinjr of
great deeds. He is the impersonation of British
royalty as shown forth in the house of Tudor,
and we have here the Tictor}' of that hou^ over
the papacy and its abettors*
In order to restore her knight to the Tijrour
requisite for his conflict with the dragon, tjna
now leads him to the House of Holiness, where
he IB put throuf^h a course of instruction and
discipline by Faitb, Hope, and Charity, the daugh-
ters of Holiness. He then engages the dragon,
whom he oveicoraea and slays after a perilous
con diet of three days' duration. At the end of
the first day, when the hero's strength is nearly
exbauwted,'it is restorGd by bis falling into the
Well of Life ; and at the end of the second day
he 13 Again saved by fulling into the *' stream of
halui '■ that flowed from the Tree of Life. By
the well and tree I think the two aacramenta
seem to be indicated. The remainder of the
allegory is simple and easy to be understood*
I will only further ohserre, that the allegorical
chjiructera cease Tsrith thia hook, So when we
meet with the Red-cross Knight and Sat3'ranB
again, they are dmply knights of Faerie, Archi-
mwgo a mere enchanter, and Duessa the Queen
of Scots, Thos. Keightlet,
LETTEKS OF NELL GWYXNE AND KlTTt
CLIVE,
De\ti Mr. Editor—
In your interesting Miscellnny vou have re-
c<j!ntly"iivtroduced two letters from ?f ell Gwynne.
I think it might plea.^e your readers to have a
copy of her letter which ia in my collection of
autographs. It is, no doubt^ authentic, and was
formt-rlv in the possession of ilr* Singer, at whose
fi4^ile r boufiht it. It wa^ so well illustrated by
our dear mutual friend Mr, Bruce, and introduced
by liim, with some others, into the Camden Mtf^-
cellitmf (vol. v.)| that I tiddto it his valuable notes.
I aUo enclose another curious specimen, written
hy the fnmuus Kitty Clive, addressed no doubt
to her friend Miss Pope the actress, of whom
Horace Walpole, writing to the Countess of
Ottsory on July 15, 1783, says: —
•* Wbs Pope bus been at Mrs. Qive*9 this Yrcck, ntid I
have not be«n able to call on lliom. I wrote a line of
':uf-*r. but bc»ped very soon to «alute Mist Prype* rye. I
•:tt8c iny radotaffe, tf^ut what beiter con you expect ? "
The glorious old gossip of Strawberry Hill, in i
letter to Lady Oa&ory of Oct. 23, 1784, fumiahe
ftnotbcr account of tho incident mentioned in '
Kittys letter: —
'* It ia vnry true Madnin we arc robbed In tbe &cq of
the Stm, Jif wdl AS at the goio^ dcwn thereof. I know
not how other districts fare, but for five mile* round ns
we uric in perpetufll jeopardy. Two of our justices re-
turn in (j from a Cabinet Council of tlieir own, at Brent'
foTd» were robbed laat week before thre« o'clock, at tbe
Ijateg of Twickenham : no wonder; 1 t»elieve they are all
hoodwinked, like their Alma Mater herself, and, conse-
quenlly as they mnnot see, it ia not surprising that both
slie and they should oi\en weigh out their good* with
uucqufll BCalc3.'*
Can you or any of your readers tell me who
Mrs. Hart wa.«, and the ** old Weasel which ehe
left behind " ? ' William Titb.
43, Lowndes Square. ■
pray Deare Mr. Hide * forfi^ive me for not wiittiK
ing to you before now for the reasone is I Hatb
bin sick thre months Sc ainse I recoverd I have
had nothing to intertaine you withall nor have
nothing now worth writings but that I can holde
no longer to let you know 1 never have hen in
any compauio wethout drinkiuff your health for
I lou© you with all my mxth, the pel mel is now
to me a did male plase sintkj I have uterly lost S'
Car Scrope ' never to be recourd agane for he touid
me he could not live nllwaye^ at tbia rate & so
begun© to be a littel uncivil, ^which I could not
Fufer from an uglye hatiiffargcon, M' Knights*
Lady mothers dead & abe ha^ put up*a scutchm no
beiger then my Lady grins* sconchis*** My lord
^ Mr. Hid« h conjectured to have been the handsome
Lory or Lawrence ly'de, second mm of Lord Chatic^^Uor
Clartmdon, created Earl of Rochester in lfl82. In May
and June lli78 be was at the Ilaj^ue on diptomatic busi-
ne!i5i. (Ctfrrespmdence of Ciarcndon and Rochttttr^ i.
IG. '20.)
^ Sir Carr Scrope was created a baronet 1667-8, o&d
died unmarried 1^180, H^ waa one of tlie witty com-
panions of Charles IT., ami autlior of various tioetlcal
efFuHioii«, to be found in Dryden^s MiMcettanteM. Johnson
noticeHi him in his life of Rochester-
^ Mrs, Knightt a ^inj^rof great celebrity, and a rival
to Nell G Wynne in the tender regard of Charles IL Sho
is mentioned hy botli Evelyn and Pf^pvf, although the
latter had not heard her tJng up to the period at which
his diary closce* The name of her Lady-mother has not
he en found*
^ Lady Greene, who escaped the rescarchc.'* of Mr.
BrctTCK» has bet-n idenfeitkd by Mr, J. G» NictiOL»
(**N. Si Q/* 3^"* S. viii, 4\:i)* She wafl another favourite
of Chflrk'j* II., hy whom the was the mother of his son
Chufles FitK Chnrle?, created iR lG7o Earl of Plrmauth,
and of a dauphter Katherine. Lady Grecno waa Ka-
therine, daughter of Thomas Petrge, Epq. of Vclder^Iey,
CO, Derhy \ became the wife of Sir Hdward Greene, Ban
of Sampford in Easeic, who died in Flanders in 1076
Lady Greena herself had prohahly died shortly before tliil
letter was written, — Fak " N, & Q/'
* » Probahlv the writer tnbplaced the it in Uii« wo
writing tcunchU for fCucAifta*
««»s.vn.jAx.r,7t.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Hocbeflter ' ia gon io the cantrei, M*^ Savil ^ baa
got A niisfortuoe, but i« upon recovery & i« to
nmry nn haiires, wbo T thinke wont wont [sic]
hrivc3 nn iU time ont if he holds up his thumb.
Mj lord of Dorscit'^ apiera wonse in thre niunths,
for he drinkea aile with Shadwell ^ & M' Ham *
at the Duke? house all day long, my Lord Bur-
furd *° reraimbera his aarvia to you. my Lord
Bauclairo " la ia [tic] {roein^ intii france. we are a
poeing to supe with the king at whithall & my lady
llarvie.** the King remembera hia sar^'ia to you.
* Jaha Wilinot, the [ujcticjil Earl of Kochcftter, who, aa
Johnsoa remaTlLe<lf ** blazed t}ut hia youth and hia health
la lavuh Toluptuou9ne>5/* and with ^' avowed eontempt
of aU decency and order/' The hbtory of the contrait
presmitcd by the close of hia life is a well-known book by
Bishop Buraet* lie died on tho 26th July, IG80, at th«
ag«of S4.
• The centWmnn who could govern by rale of thumb
WA^ n«irv Sjvilp, the future Vice-Cbaniberlain, for whom
f > '* -^^ ff CorrcMpondenct:^ edited by Mr, W. D. Copper
I ivn Society io 1858, The project«d marriage
e off.
uo Karl of Donot was one of the wildest of the mad
, aioQi of the merry monarch. Hid dojng^s are
r» r;Ura at )«rj;o in all the scandalous cbronii^loj of that
p<*riwl, Nf'll G Wynne w*a living with hiin as hu mia-
tf^M when thf king^ took a fancy to her, and the terms
»*f the bar|^:ija and sale bv which she wae tranfferrod to
the »ovcrei2n may be read in Cunningham, p. G8. Dorset
< - ^> ■-' ' Tit, for the latter was his title whilst X<?U
< I with him, ifi more crcntitably known by hia
? Ill you Indies now at land/* and by his con-
duct Ai, ihe> cloflc f»f the rcipn of James II. His life is
included nmon£c Johnsi^in'i LheM of the Poets.
¥ 1 1, .„, .. vt ..i... !i ,\.. '>f.t» who owed to (he influence
♦ intment as latireate on the
* volution of 1G8!^. However
T ^try, hU canvcrsfltion is ^aid to have been.
1 V and atnusini;. From hia companionship
. ,. r.r,.T r^ ,,^ui.t ,'t ia not to be wondered at
i and profane.
ited actor, who drew sword
1 liveii to delight the town^
* M hello, Alexander, Brutus,
1 ,v - ■ '"'^^ him as a man of most at-
ilies. "I do find him a very excellent per-
In my whole acqti^iinUnce I do not know
' for converje, whether in things
tier kind; a man of preat under-
t ,uon» and very jagrecinble in the
-iflryCi and civil as far as is possible. I
wjw t! ;i-M?d with hi^ «^ompiny." Lord Bray-
^r I in a n.^r '' {H IdfA Hint Harfia
il or left t It 107«>. The present
, 'UCo that d si _ if or two, and Dr. Doran
suost «mu*in^ treosurv of informntioii respecting
jna (Their Afajesties i§err<in/*, voL i. p. 63), dates
I ^rueut frum the stage in 1082, and his interment
ii re \L»_'^nain 1683.
' i r.iirl Mfd, at we have already noticed, wan the
1! G Wynne's two children by the king. He
h Xf ay, 1G70, created Lord Burford on the
r, tore, and Duke of St. Alban's on the 10th
^i I,
krk, Nell Gwynne's younger sod, was
cr, 1671, and died, aj ire have before
' in September, K^SO.
y was Elizabeth, eister of Ralph third
now lets talke of state affairS; for we never caried
things BO cunningly as now for we dont know
whether we shall have peace or war, but I am for
war and for no other reaaon but that you may
come home. 1 have a tboLisaad merry conseets,
but I cant make her write urn & therfore you
must take the will for the deed, god bye, your
most loueing obedunt fnithfuH & humhel
Barvant
KG.
Twickenham Oct' y* 17, 1784.
My dear Popv,
The Jftclt I muat have, and I suppose the
Cook will be as much deli^^hted with it| aa a fins
L idy with a Birthday Suit ; I send You Wall-
nuta which are lioe, but pray be moderate in your
admiration for they are dangeroug Diuntiea ; John
b&a CATried about to my Keighboura above six
thnosand and he tells me there [are] aa many a till
left; indeed it is a mo^t wonderfull tree M"
Prince has been robd at Two o'Clock at Noon of
her Gold Watch and four Guineas, and at the
same time our two Justices of three and aixpence
a Fiece, they had like to be shott for not having
more. Every body inquires after You and I de-
liver your C*omp\* Poor M" Hart is dead— well
ftpoken nf by every body. 1 pity the poor old
W<^aseel that h left behind.
Adieu my dear Popy
Y'""evef
The Jack must carry six or seven and twenty
pounds, the Tvaterman ahiill bring the money whea
I know what.
MONS VCLTUR.
1 do not know that I hnve much that is new ta-
say respecting Mona Vullur: but it is so seldom
that a traveller penetrate» to this secluded part of
Italy, that anything, however tridinir, will be
intereflting to some of your reader?, pajfticularly to
the Admirers of Horace and his works. It was a
little beyond the middle of June that I mounted
this beautiful mountain, clothed with oaks, el ma,
I>ord Montagu of Dou^btoo, afterwards Enrl and Duke of
Manch Piter. Elizabeth married Sir Daniel Harvey, a
con a pieuous person nt that time; as ranker of Kichmond
Park be gave sheltir in bt"i bouse to Lady Ca«tlemaine
durinf^ her quarrdA with Chjirles H. Her ladyship, ac-
conliniij to Pepys, rewarded Lady Harvey by cncouraj^-
ing '* Didl Common," or Mrs. t*oVy, who was the dlstin-
gui^lied representative of that character, to mimic Lady
Harvey on the stage, in the character of Sempronia,
Lady Harvey "provided peofde to hiss her and fling
oranges at her/' and, that being unsuceefisful. procured
the Lord Chamberlain to imprison her. Lady Cai^tle-
maiue ** made the king to rclciiae her," and a great dis-
turbance was excited both in the theatre and at court.
In the mean time Sir Daniel Harvey was sent away am-
basiador to Constantinople.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'»S.VJ1, Ja3I.7,'?U
1
chestDute, aofi, in its higher riaiges, with beechea
and pines. It was aucb a day for heat aB^infipixed
Horace to aiDg {Carm. in, 4, 9) : —
*• Mt! fribuloBtti Vulture in AppulOt
Altrioi* "vii I lin,. n Apuliii",
Frmi I juwpidutoWs
Texere/'
Woodpigeons are still aa numerous as they
"wer^in the days of Horace; while the cooing' of
the dove and the hummiDg- of the beea invited to
sleep. I approached the mountnin from the side
of Melfi, which ffives name to the hit^hesl peak,
*' 11 Pizzuto di Melfi," four thoutiftnd three nun-
dred and fit'ty-seven feet above the level of the sen*
The approach to the mountdti is through vine-
yards, which grow with great lux ariHace, aa vines
always do on volcanic soil?. The wine ia strong,
and requires dilution for the sober Italian.
At the foot of the mountain to the north, the
Anfidua could be traced for many miles by the
winding of the valley through which it rune. In
its upper course it is a stream of no great size in
summer, though evidently a violent toirent from
the winter snow and rain. I can easily under-
stand why its presiding nymphs should have been
propitiated by the superstitious, aa the following'
mecriptiou shows : —
XmPHig . AVFIDI
SfiEVAXmC . 8ACB
C « XAOtVS . 0 . F
VELLKIANVS
REST , ET . DKDIO .
It id pftHieularly interestiflg to find the name
of Miigius Velleianus in this neighbourhood, and
we cannot but imagine that we may have here
Magius Celer Velleianus, brother of the historian
Velleiua Paterctilus^ who served as legate to
Tiberius in the Dalmatian war a.d. 0, and shared
in the honours of his commander's triumph. At
the time of Augustuses death (a.d, 14), he and
Ma brother were the ** caudidati Ctesaris" for the
pnetorahip (Veil. Pat. n. 11*5, 121, 124). It is
the more likely that this should be so, as the
family, thotJgh originally of the highest rank in
Capua (Liv/xxiii. 7, 10), were evidently settled
in this direction, as the *^ atavus ^^ of Velleius
Paterculus is calked by him *' Asculaneusis " (Veil,
Pat. rt. 16)^ dbtingiushed in the Social War
^B.c, &0) by his fidelity to the Romans. Now
Asculum Apulum Asvo'ti U at no great distttnee
from the banks of the Aufidus^ and the propertj
of Magius might be oft*-*n subjected to the mun-
datjons of the river.
The forest MouticchiCi, with its lofty and aged
trees, afforded a pletisant shade aa I ascended the
filopes. There can be no doubt of the rolcanic
nature of the mountain : there are several craters,
but one in partiiTulai- far more perfect than that of
VesuTius. The sides of this crater rise in nearly
an unbroken line around, dotted with Hq&t J!ipeca|
mens uf timber than I have ever aeon, evi^n
our northern regions. IDatorical records urc ^le
aa to the time when it was in operation ; but tJ>
intelligent inhabitaiits maintain that thuy wou'
b© in a great measure relieved from the ea ^
quakes that desolate their country if it \
again to burst forth and let oSt the pent-up j
underground.
It id curious that I should have heard the san
observation when I was at Casal Nuovo,
southern Calabria, the central spot, wliere tli
earthquake of 1783 had been felt most severely
and where the Princess Gerace and maov thou!
sands of the inhabitants had been swallovvLn] up
Towards the soiiih my host pointed to the highe
mounliMn, Aspromoute, and said that aU thw
calamities arose from that central point. ThI
was the opinion of one who had watched for ha
a century the shocks to which they weri> *
atantly subject, and this man, ahnot^m '*
was probably not far from the truth.
Id the largest crater of Mons Vultur are tw|
email lakes, from which at timts ii^sae sulphunsou
exhalations, like those which rise from Lacii^
Ampsanctas, which is at no great distance, and i
no doubt counectod with this aucient volcaad
The inhabitants feel that they are resting on
volcano that might burst out at any moment, a
Vesuvius did eighteen hundred yeai's ago ; btij
the Italians me in general a pioiia race, and havJ
much dependence on a Higher Power. They bar
frequent admonitions by slight shocks ; and I wn
told that the appoaranco of the lakes gave warn J
ing of what was likely to happen, as they becami
more turbulent and threw out exhalations mop
largely before a severe shock took place. Then
are more than a dozen cones scattered over lb
surface of the mountain, but, what is very curiou
no appearance of an^^ extensive stream of lava
To my eye, the little lava I saw had much mn
of a basaltic structure than what I had bee
accustomed to see round the base of Ve,«uvittj<i.
Sulphureous springs are abundant. I Ijenrd i
"una mofeta con due bocche'* at La IT< fulinn
where the country was elflorescent wili!
At Bftrile, originally a rolony of Albani :
is another very powerful spring, which is used lor
chronic diseases by the inhabitants of the sur-
rounding country* NearAtella there is said
be another still more strongly saturatcnl ; indci$
on every aide of tht) mountain such spring
abound.
There is an idea prevalent among Italia
geologists that jVIous Vultur was in dijjtant a^
close to the Adriatic, as they believe that Pi
Piann, as it is called, was then submerged^!
only raised gradually by the violent throe
nature. There is no doubt that this port nf Italj
is only slightly raised above the level of the a«%l
4«'S. VII. Jax. 7,T1.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Wk
»ud the laad lying between the ploijis of Onnnfie
and A'enusta would have then formed an inland
bar,
i tmTdlied for thirty miles along the banks of
th^ " ■ * H, from CanncB to Venusia, and I was
p y etnick by the level nature of the
oounirj iiii I arriTed near to the birth-place of
Homce. Venosia stands in the water-shod of a
11'^ -' " ^lig aid© of which the waters flow into
II - and hence into the Adrifttic^ while
yf they fttU into tbe river Bradanus,
\no, at the mouth of which I found,
t» fiftv miles farther south, the ruins of tbe
<"^ 'emple at iVIetapontum, now known to
ti fiiats as **Tavoia dei Paladini." The
Bra^Janus has a long course, taking its rise at tbe
foot of Moos Vultur, and flowing southward into
the (tulf of Taranto, it formed the boundary
between Apulia and Lucania.
At the time when Puglia Plana is supposed to
havt* been submerged, g-t^ologists imaf^ine that the
Oulf of Taraato was united to the Adriatic across
the neck of land which joins Bmnduaium to
T so that the Japvpnn ptminsula must
t ! een an island, No doubt thL^ neck of
^ T at height above the sea level, I
it from ^fanduria, through Uria,
* - 1 . u=j.i i^iuu. I found that it was at Una the
cenlml point, where the lidge began to riae,
i;r1m I, ruT.^ northward and forms what is known
ins as Puglia Pietrosa. A very slight
__ would again make the Japygian penin-
■iiia into an bland.
Ckauftrd Tait Bahaoe,
L
LONDON COFFEE HOUSES,
1 hive in my possession a copy of Mendez's Col*
r-iu/n (if r<^ni»^ which you aie aware was pub-
'^iM m 1707 aa a supplement to Bodsley's
^^^^fdio9L I am not about to make any remark
^m the book itself; but on the (ly- leaves, at the
^"fsiiming and end, are written in the neatest of
md» two poeme. One is called " The Quakers*
^Uetiag, by Mr. John Ellis: ** this I do not propose
totiotthift you with, as it has no great merit, and
Miit the taste of the present day. The
ver, may be interesting, not as a poem,
" L d.^ uiiutrating the manners and customs of
^^ Jiticestora, and as recalling the memory of
^ - f public /esort and entertainment
urhood of the Royal Exchange,
* K.iii. probably being no longer in eiist-
U is called an " Epi-tle horn M. Mendez,
, to 3itr. J. ElJis''— no doubt the author of
ther poem» but of whom the biographical
' '^* at present at my call do not give any
^*<»3ttnt. He was, no doubt, a choice spirit of the
^f iit| mme corroetly perhaps, the night.
1 fRTe you the whole poem, but there is one
Terse which probably you may think had better
be omitted : —
** KriSTLE WROU II . HKSTDBX, ESQ., TO HUt J. ZLUS.
I,
** Wh€D to Ellis I write, I in rerso mu*t iadilw —
Como Phoobus, und give itic a knock :
For on Fridav nt eight, all b^tiiod the 'Change gate,
Mr. £liu wUl be at the Cock«
11.
" I will try to be there, where I firmly declare
I shrtnld want neither clsrct nor hock ;
But in nuinbcTT! would 9port, quite in«pir'd byyoor port!
Who verse would deny for the Cock ?
IIT.
" The Floece of rich SpAin pooplo envj in vttin»
Full fts good is the wool of our flock :
Nor the Hcjid of tho Pope shttll in%ite as to tope
Such wine tu wa drink at the Cock.
IV.
''' In leam'd Abchorch Lane let them BwHt ,Utcir oham-
pdii,
Till the lifjtior their ncnsejf shall lotrk ;
I^'i thcui iiiidlo »f}d aing at the Artiu of the Kin^,
Wo have wit with our wine at the Cack.
Y,
** A Swjin of hUck hue is n wonder, *t\» tme,
And the Swan in a Hoop we will mock ;
Knv, the Fountain in rain spouts hertiooiLa of red rain,
ft raiiia deeper red at the Cock.
VI.
• •••••
VII,
" A htmrfw, n<> lew, 'tl-^ to Britain's saooeiB.
yi .- [ ' i<n\t aaa rodki
Jkl I 1 1 66et whereaoevor they meet,
A.. . 1.:. -. - .-,:-! Shroye-tide Cock.
vrii.
** 'Tia time to bo ^one, for the *ChaDge has etrack one:
0» 'tis an impertinent clock !
For with VJUa Vd atay from September to May;
rU Slick to my friutid and tho Coek.
Richmond, Surrey. W. C.
LEGAL COMMOX-PLACES, temjK JAMLSL
I have a dilapidated cotntnon-pkce book in
which are entered «t»voral MS, notee of casea, rulea
and orders of Courts dicta of judges, and legal
memoranda, in two different hands^thoso dated
1601, 2, J3, iipparently copied from origrJnal notes
by a clerk, and those ot 1G04, 6, 6, 7 in the re-
porter's own handwriting, which is eomewhat dif-
ficult to decipber. Tbe Lord Keeper named was
doiibtless Sir ThomnB Egerton, afterwards Lord
Chancellor ; tho Attorncy-generul, Sir Edward
Coke, Mr. Bacon was Francis Bacon, who he-
came Lord Chancellor; Hnnt, LL.D.i ft
Master in Chancery, and in 1G05 Master of the
Holla.
The entries are under tbe following heads ;-^
Suhpo;na, Attachmenta, Comissious, lieaponsionea,
Gener^ ohaerTacooa, inter tUta, 1001*
" None may malce or paait grtmo Dookoa bv my Lordea
appoyntmeut" [at thia prcacatl Ht €, (jSa.^ tk^ 1u^<6.^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[.A»iS.Vn. jA3r.7,'71
(but not as Clorke of the CroTrnc) [the elenrke of] the
HftiTvper and i rnoro, or such ns my Lord sball nominnle.
but he mflv name as mnnie na he likt»*
The reason whie *iett hand l>r>okc^ orgreenc boffkffl he
writt in vellum \b because ihat overvi* wordo thoriii u
vrriUen at length, as Uichurdus and nue Eicha% and not
in course.
Termino Michis anno U, Hc^g-i^ .lac" primoapud Winton
lfi03, 14 Novembr. This tornie for tnc 5tckn«*3 vtas ad-
iorned vnto Winton Citty: till Cm. MartTni. The mrolc
poj nt was hereon, whether thr dny of t !rO. Marty ni, or
the 4 dare after (via.) Twe*l,iy, shoulde be the Imte daye
or not, yt was resolued iHrrr. M*' Ty ndall ton Id ns so in t lie
Kiiii^'sBcdchambC'r at Winchester, that beings n^dcthe
chappie cliambiT for my Lo**" Chancellor.
Di*mi\aion-- Costs-— Publicacon — Demurrer — Exarain-
ftcfni of WittncsscA— BriJ de Execucoc — Replications —
Rfiliinctio — Dtdim* roteslatem — Acute et gravitfcr dictn,
M*^ BaooD Bftyd : the poore man went Itke a sheepc to
a Bufihe in a storm,e, and he robbad him of i^l hia wooll.
Let one devill torment the other sayd my Lord Keep*
to n question a^sked lilm what should became of the
Broker : that both llroker & vu^urer had conripired lo
cosin a younfi;epentlrman.
One Jath in the afUrmAtive ia better then k thowsand
in the negative.
M'' D'tor Hunt in Cotirte beinge dcmsundcd the citIU
lawe rule in witnesaea. ^
My Lo''* Keep gayd no man j^oeth by the Kings uli^h'
way* but the dojfga will hnrke at hiin; neaver lett «n
ho ileal man care for yll wordtw, they be but dogif* bark-
inffe.
in ft miona of yll carriage; althoug^he Ihere be no
apparant proofest yet cverie suripicAn carrieth hia force :
Hftd yf there be sundrle auHpitJonii omnes su^pi lionet
^^reactint, sayth my LoJ* Keeji,
I will not cutt the txKlye bceau*e the coate h too little,
trpeakin^ of a roans intent by liis last will to esttate some
of his fFrlend^, hut wonted forme. [Ld. Kcr^ in margin.]
Qui iu p'tibua luenUtur ncfyrius eat.
<^ui ruam ct eandein rem duobua vendit, fraudulBntu^
cat.
Omdna nihil habct ingenuum.
Libenter ignore vt li bonus patrem [nltertMl from
Mai^ii et minus non differnnt /ipecio. My Lord Keep
B peeking!! that I in the hundred waa ai much taurlc oa
10 in the hundred.
Litis ct lerifl alien! comes mi <^ 1:^11:1. Idem.
You had the Bird in yo"" hand, yoti might kill him <jr
Ictt him flie at yo^ pleasure. Idem,
rius valeut duo aflirmante^ qnam raille negantes*
D'>c' Hunt in euria.
Volenti non tit iniiiria. modo non induct u» rit fraude ad
illam Toluntatcin. [Una custoa in marg,]
You brushe yo''{iealf so longe that you hro^he the dust
into vft' owoe eyea. L^" Keeper to Sient Spurlinge that
exeUAed him sealf of an imputacon both longe & crno^tlie.
Thia cawae hath been carried in the heigth of witt onil
strength of wordea, and I heir fore impar con;Ejressus for
me to awniwer, in regard of my insuflicyenrN-e in the
■caj** l>etweene Francklyn and Gaseoijin'C- Qui-* pinxit
leoncm, speakinge of a forged deode beinge in the partves
luinde that coaiplayoed of the forgerye lUerof.^ [Bit/
Bacon in marg. ]
My Ldfl marks of an yll caune be manye. AmA>ngate
the reat one to make private peticoui^/and worke to
pvcrt Justice by private Irea and mocOn of grent men.
And my Lord vaeth to say I am a blabber and p''«ent1ic
wiU dim)ver the ooatenl of the Ire and meanea vsetl In
ihe behalf of the ptyc [Da* Custos.]
eak-
1
Yt
Tott warble in yo^sealf j you are n«we pushing to fai
[Doa eu»tc»9.]
A brnlye iwililique hath no ^wle am! therfore 5ome
them ymaiiine they f^honld hate no
Cuf*to9] ^pcakinge of the Deane of Roeh
Tantic ne animis cdslejitibaa ira». Sp'-^.^ii-^^ ^t w. _,,
mens feirce pseeucon of a ca\V!»e.
M*" Altomrr ^prnl^in^ of the malicioQA carriages of
cauRo by i ill and church psona, Clericua
oppjdo tati in arido,
vt fielitu.x..^ . . ys.^Q quantum veils etc mfticrnitndini
nuHo quantum pos.*i4. / in a demurrer int' Bowes
dham Reginam, [UitchoocJce.]
My Lord Keeper *ard thiU Carua will was the l»e»t<
who would neaver make anie other Kxccutor* hut (li
hande\ nor auie other orurwcra but bia eyes, (19 Mai
1^ Jacobi.)
You hare made a longe entrie to a little how.^ speok-
tngo to M^^ Hi'i^tni that r<cd a l«>nge p^'face to a cauae ~^
little worth, and might have beene aouner anawei
[Dtis Cu5lo?.]
Possihilifye i» the mother of hope, and hope the nurae
de-^ire. M' Kinge ni Powlc* cro^«ie Sii*** Octohr*
This cawAe will fare like a froste, for yt will haTC
fowle end. Miehis 1 1'^ tt 45'^ [ Dna Cu*tofl.]
My Lo^*^ a*-ked what did the ptye give him that
jihonld vndertake all their chargta. all that he had my
Jjotd flwnswered they* All that he had sayd my Lord yt
may be that was of Vmall ar no vale we. Much like yu"
awnswer lo the (wiyinge nf Peeter to Chrlste. Wee ha
fonaken all and f.dlowtHl rhe. I knnwe nothing
Peeter hud but an owld boote and a broken nett. So inaj-
yo^ all be, 11 Octo; U^ ct 4>.
The same to M" Fullkmbe havioge ordered that an
atmuitye of Ixxx" p annum fhouM bo p«i to hir from hir
huflhond (Jie beinge severed from him) and Hrste ap-^
povmted the Roth for the place of payment at hir rcqui
and then she alteriuge that minde requested yt luiifht
paid hir ftt Yorke/w*^'« h^^ likewise granted; Las
naminge a thinl place ^bastgingt- hir former opiriim ; m;
L<>ni sayd» (steinge hir so variable) M" Fullinmbe yt wi]
trutnpe a good Tavler to make a garment for the tnoi>i
w*:^* you resemble becaw&i? y<Hi wax* «a<l wayu« «u ofiei
Thia wag spoken two vcircaj before the former about
Octo. Miu-his ^V'> ct 15^'*
[The fallowing are in the second hand] : —
"M»chi>, ICnL Octob. 12. L** Keep. Non refert
nomine modo oun^tct de feifm: nsyf a man bff arested
the niHnc of Sawkeld wlr-n hh name i^ Sal<iott.
Sin^ulanias te^tium viriat testimonium— Idem : as
one liy one have .scene or hcarde speake iuch a thing ai
not 2'or more at one tyme,
20 Octobrii*. M"" Attorney Generall dining at the
clearke* olTiee witli vs ; naycd : Oleum iu auramo^ vinttl
in medio, et mel in irao ii wU wayea best.
20 Nove. IG04. My L** Chanctdor taxed one f honnlti
of one an other before they had fint«hed ther
of S' Jerom ast he «iyeAt toucliing speacb. 1
tientia. 2. Loquendi onportunitoa, 3. Virlutn 1 utui
meiita.
llillarii. 1604. 2. R. R. %
Tyll 32 H. X, no innn might device hi5 landc
will vnlesfto it wcare in certaync manners llini
such a cu!*tom, and in my opinion it hath I i^
. , , omenta that a dying man paynedai:
thcrby »hoold in arlicid'o miiriii when hi* sou \
prouididg viaticum for that neaver recoring iom
^hoold be-%tow his thoughts (having no learned men b;
on Ihe inberltance of hh laiiiK
Idem. — Cum factor renim priua.«et »emina clerum
Ad ialanie votum succeasit herba nepotum.
** S, VII. Jas. 7, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
My T.* ria.inL'jIlnrs vs\ld verfttt on tbe clearipy pnr»
ICV0W8, othcrwys thef cliildnni.
pNiyri '^^pnriking of Cupley, a
' _ :: r-t ^^t: II J HUH fu'CCfltL M"' At-
-i^ of jif*?^uaut Witts tv bt caver struyning
i.iij j.n,,^ ii« Jtinij. M"" Attorny. Male facieutea
furruai Ad [Mtentejii upcAkitig or fiuitcrj Lo noblemen for
kt(.
kiJmI of A L.^ily what vcrtwe the
nf liiui held, am we red, gre;ite
OTIC hundred inowud out of
Miuth she luul pftyod for
hand vaiilo*H5 had of tbc
<uukc iui 200 pcrle to pay HOO for
. p.
, ,j Xo: fr, riAC0i),
'J of Ju»tii;:;e dLitri bullae is to coniiider not
' nt ^<! tAiitn* and not to pronounce aeutbtice
lie* hut by graine*.
1 1 matitier for Marche LonU U to have
Mil by dcathe, but not by purchtti*e or
I unM^i, a certaoe Mod (*( c!outn bution
r it yet of dutie) whiche thev call Mici^s.
I : li i [.ihrnke prcteudcMi the like od' tht
i< ' -;.: "^ I - ' r, ' t whom he claimcth a cotitribu-
1 r If atui Li ^^nnU tho pairn** of five hundred
(which he his whole tiitctH) to be paid in five
Thivj cAu*c vfa<» hjiiidted in the Cimn: courts
^A^ of the KoK's Justice Warbrton and Do''
1005 ami two foimer decrees were shewed
^ . , by the Lo: of rembr: counsell.
i\ he two laVl entries are in thq first hjtiid.]
iia,i, J60t;,JulijII.
IcTioranHa JudieU : mi^em inocctitifl,
Mitiufl mi&acracith nidtus parttur.
The h^ Cooke, h^ Checf Justice a&ibtiug in Chancery.
S^ JuJv. Lo*» Cooke being Attor.
' " ■ - - * *' r L^of North , . , the Starr
He saved Bu^fjicionees levcA,
n, probabilt:«, iucurceratioc, aod
itid«mt]atiou.
1-1' 1. ^ ii.itjcellonr snycd lo one fliat was
t ID hi5 owrif oaw6#, 1 thou^^ht yowe had a
S3tt mynde htcuuse yowe kicku Irttforo they
r,,, ^f* * '■ nnd with thi'tn 3 or more
(ft ; my L<* Chimed, ftayd
u to Ih; at a shjg pi uy heere
ucaiu: uulil mother A tephenn with her
: over the coort to them, What can we
-■. rnmns dies TLTiuiui.
:ittrclliir wiycfj ; dislyking the
Im ther' children "and of di-
churehea: this li ablative
<y of thcr liviogefl but in
:kdt>wjnent» wwirc to the
:ty waa in I he dative ciiac
On A
Mar
for the wch Robert
i:)d wi^iitcihu him self
thnt all th<^ plopse of heven k crthe
vppon Ihu wrettche mavc light
thiit fury frette her j^all
her payne maye never ceass^e
liorr fynd tioe freml in her diairesso
that may her woe relea^^e/*
Q, A, CAETmm,
I ijf might
CHARBON DE TEEBE: A LIEGE LEGEND.
Id the year 119S a poor blacksmitli ia tlie ctty
of Liege waa toiling m on obscure street where
hi^ wretclied little forge was estal>lishe<J. H^
waa working- awa}' as hard m be could, and hiil
face was bedewed with pewpiration,
A etranper who was passing down the street,
observiojy the earnest maDDer with which the hardy
ftmith waa lahouring, stopped to look at him.
This etninper was a Tery venerable old man, ,
with hair and beard as white as snow; and h#|
was arrayed in garinents that were the same
colour as hk beard ajid hair. (Canitic et harhd
vmiermidiUf aWd veUe indtiimj Uilles d^Orval, t. ii.
101.)
" 'rhat is a wearisome trade yon have devoted
yourself to/' said the stranger. " Axe you con-
tent with the profits it yields vou P "
«< What proiits do you thinlc I can derive from
it?"8iud the blacksmith, aa he wiped his fore-
head. *' Nearly everything I gain by my labour
I aw obliged to expeud ia buying this miserable
e/mrbon, which coats me so dear.^*
*• Aye; aye ! ** said the straoger, " I see that the
chitrhon you use is made of wood, and that it^
must cost a good deal by the time it is conveyed,
to you from the adjoining forests."
**I assure you/' observed the blacif smith, ''that,
the utmost 1 can possibly gain is barely f?ufficient
to buy food for myself and my family."
•'But/' rc'plied tbe old man, "if you could have-
a species of vhdrbtm which would cost vou nothing
more than the trouble of diggini? a little depth
into the earth for it, where it lies hidden, and
when you could have as much of it as you wished
for, would you be very happy ? "
" Would^ I be very happy ? Ah I '^ fiighed the
blacksmith, as he gazed at the atranger, and en-
deavoured to make a guess at the meaning of the
worda addressed to him.
" Well, then/* continued the venerable stranger,.
** liaten now atteutivelv to what I am saying. You^^
know the Mo nt-dea- Moines that lies cloee by thi^
place, as you must have often passed by it, Havci
you never remarked, if you did so, a sort of black
earth that is in some places mixed up with the
ordinary soil? Go there ; take that black emtli,
put it in the fire, and, take my word for it, you
will never again have lo buy an ounce of cltarlfon
of wood.*'
The blacksmith stared with. «kmttxei\a^wV, wc^^ ^V*
first thought the old BViai^ei ^%a 1t\^\\\^^ ^'VO^
8
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[#&».
yjisr,T/7t.
him; but that thouglit yanisbed aa he looked at the
Jtindlj fftco of the good old nittn, bidding hiai
** good bye " as he disappeared. The smith's con-
fidenco retunied ; he put on hLa coat at once (for
the ho&est men of Liege never take long to de-
liborat9 oa anything), and the same instant he
ran off to thoMont-des-Moines. Upon examining
the soil, he there perceived what ne had before
never paid any att^^ntion to, that there were
tmcks, ttnd what appeared to be ymna of earth
that waa black and friable* He Elled his apron
with tbia earth, and returned home Patiafied. Ilia
confidence in the words of the venerable stranger
was fully realised; for scarcely had he ca€>t a
haodful of his black earth into the braaier than
it b«»jfan to burn up and pjiarkle brllliAiuly,
He had maile a jnwid discovery ! Ho bad found
out coftl ! He had hit nixin the r/mriton de terreJf
Transported with delight, he ran to tell his
neighbours of what hud orcurred to him. The
neighbours in their turn, beinj^r luHy convinced of
the value of the discovery, repaired t*i Mont-des-
Moines — which tbey also called Mofd'}*uUk\
because it had been waste coujmon-land, nnd every
one that lik<ed had a right to repair to it — and
there, with the black earth, they perceived stones
of the same colour, which were found to make
eoEoellent fuel.
It may eas^ily be guessed what a reputation the
disoovery of this valuable mine won for the poor
blacksmith in hia natal city. His name was
Wmlloij and from his nam% was aft<.»r wards called
thftt species of coal that is kuown fw /umlU (pit-
coal).
The extraction of pit-coal {liouUle) becamo, in
course of time, the source of great riches to Liege ;
but then us to the g^ood old man who had re-
vealed tht» &<utro6 of these riches, HouUoss and
his companions in vain eong^ht after him from a
desire to testify their gratitude ; but no one waa
ever able to gain anj inteUigenco rospecting^
him.
Who then was this ohl man P From whence
came he ? Howwaahe master of a i^ecret which
was concealed fmm the inhabitants of the count it ?
" Wo have " ( says M. E. De Conde, in his Momtmen s
0t StmvenirH dit ta ville ilc Liegey c* iv,, from whii^h
this legend is translated) *'on this subject con-
sulted ancient autliors. The oldest work refer-
ring to it is an antique manuscript, verj' sadly
deteriorated* T!i: ript, havinj? recuunted
in detail the prf< ty, ftd<ia : •* That there
cuinot bo any du*.^, t«:A mysterious per-
sonage introduced int that, beyond th©
ftlightost question, he v .,iuj . . /' "The In^t
letters have been obliterated by endous time.
Could the manuscript have intended to alHrm
that the author of the discovery wa^i an oftyel
(mngelui^) F off might it not have been an ^ri^li-
caa— an Englishman {Aiigtm) ? for tiie use of
coal (chnrhon iff icrre) w«ia well known in tbol
twelfth century in Kngland.
W. B. Mic Cabx.
MonGontour-de-Brel«giiii, Cotoa da Kurd. Fnu)<*«.
DB, AKBUTHNOT.
That this celebrated wit and eminent phv-
siciAn, upou whom the mantle of the cquallrl
clev&r and skilful Dr. i*itc«ira had fallen, was n^
cadet of the noble family of Arbuthnot, i«, w©
believe, undoubted, although there is some diffi-
culty in putlinf? together the uece.«sary links ot
his pedigree. His father was the episcopal cbjrgy-
man of Arbuthnot, where his son is asserted to
have been bom shortly after the Restoration.
In the Library of the Faculty of Advocated
there id a MS. which is thus tilled: ** A Con-
tinuation of the (reuealogie of the noble Familyl
of vVrbuthnot, by Mr. Alexander ,\rbuthnot, somO'-
time Minister at the Kirk of Arbuthnott.'^ This
person wa? the father of Dn John Arhnthnot,^
who, not choosing to adopt the Pr<
tern of worship, pi^eferred reliiiquiKl
and retiring to aji estate, represeniou by ^. imbi-
bers * to have been but a ** small *' one, whicli
he had inherited, nnd where, it may be rensonAM^
assumed, he passed the remainder of his days.
This Continuation was intended to form thfl
concluding portion of an account of the ArbuthH
not family which had never been printed, bufi
which may be amongat the muniments of th^
Viscount of Arbuthnot, Its existence was uu^
known t4:j Dr. Irving, who has itfiven a sketcll
of the life of the alb?ged writer in his Lhym oi
Sro(t)fh Poeiff and to Dr. Robert Chumbers, whoi
brief notice of Principal Arbuthnot, the author^
derived from Irving and M*Crie»
On the back of the title of the Contimiation
the following memorandum : —
** For conn^ctincr Prfnripnl Arbutlin'^tt'^ Tntln Orne ^
*lo^y with ! 1
Mtvarl of P.kU...L,.., ,... ^ . ,. . ., ..
chnn^cd to blench, Mp ^rn^ removed by imniatuit* ileatii
in the flowi*r of his t^c, in the yejir'l521» nnd to hin
9 nrr^^di'd Hnbert hi^ fton, the third of that nanuv
called after h'm grnndrathcr,**
Copicfi of this Latin genealogy may exist
some public or private library ; but none harei
hitherto been found, which la the ni' "■ ^^1
regretted^ as the author waa a man ol
ability^ and an el errant writer in ].^.*v\
prose and verse. He di»?d ** at Al* i i "ri th^
Lm$ ^/Mminent Scotehmmt p. Otf>
'guvn. ja».7,ti.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
9
atli of October, 1663, ba^nre he bad completed
Bg-e of fortj-five." A fnvourable picture of
is giTen by ArcbbUhap Spottiawood, who
iinrks : —
"-*^*}r lovetl of all men, hated of none. Riirl
r liii* raodemLioii with the chivf rnon
u TTtthout hi- nflviiT t>Kv o<in>hi ^lo
n liicli j lit liim ill a r' ' ^jT he dni
llija. pW'iant nnd i tion, and
.^ .- , M. rf, a ^ooil ju, J. Ill, pliilo-
few, lawyer, iin«l m medicine skilful; so
; he could |jrompily dLicourac, and to
It i& believed tbftt the Principal was tbe graDd-
r of Aleicander, the clergyman of Arbuthnot,
I tbtui great-gmijdfiitbBr of the friend of Swift
I Pope. The conjee turo may be erroneouS| but
sfftuld be sati^fatlory to haVe it either proved
liefatod. J* M.
I^EDITED ElEGT BY OLIVER GOLDBMTTH.
uggling the other day throuph a quaiititv of
i j^iperd, I lighted on poor Goldy^s pane^'^ync of
If Hi- hearted patron, the amiiihle and iotel-
LQuaker, Josieph Fenn Sleigh (Foote'a
.^U-o"), *^ the fichoolfellow of Burlce at
friend of Barry the painter, who
in 1771, an eminent phyaiciaa
(I'iior'd Life of Gold^mi/h, I liS-9.)
h^ do<?tor, who wufl of Derbyshire desceut| died
, May 10, 1770, aged thirty^«even (a
i^ t for hifi sorrowinfT frienda !), lettTtng
11 idiotic lister and a large fortune—
too many .know to their bitter coat) a
^*n*iT-* ' ^^et of litigation; but to which,
^ vyny his due, we believe a certain
^' ^ 1 '> rjcaLTu iitts, or ought to bsve, a prior
*i , ■- - - "- '^ -^-:^s uiiivarsally
CJnwn, ' ry huuti OOfl'-
^•*«l »• it could not
^ggtrau Miti risiility, Ua Fiiucy atu. here find no
yii«JE«i«i»lly vacaat for it^iadiiusuon— on tho hearts
I'^irllio Jroew'liiin ; od the wretch whom he relieved—
J I^PaitDl whom he fiolaeed j of the Friend whom he
lt«! (Tfief I po ^ef Gxe«»sivQ call*
} Ihi? tf^T^ whi'^'h now in torr^^tiU fall.
' dl ndBiirGtl,
vh liredf
Piio nt ^ ht'liei;
I r iriendly «i^lii«.
|1 ^«^ f'hflritr msiifc,
"' ' " II Aectire
^<ht eav«
11' - , ^ , . . I
r tmd heart, uor injure by yuur lav»
iftliy man you faititly gtrivc to praiAc !
^^-ffl»try f»cc-^behold the rich and poor —
"ith downcaist eyoa regret that Skigh'a no more I
"OuvETi Gor.nsMiTH,
" RoflcomuK^n, Ireland."
MooRLiHB Lad.
I)l80itKPA.JfCtE9 TS DATES. — ^AmODgst AEIcietlt
charters and indentures sudi errors are by no
means uaconimon, and might lead an inexperi^
enced archasologiat to prouounce the document-i
in which they occur Bpurious, whereas these very
errors someti'naes aifordeven corroborative evidence
of authenticity, A note on this subject would,
I believe, be valtied by the public. The author «
of a paper on " Ancient Sherrit Beala/' published ■
a few years ago in the Herald and Oenemittjist^ baa
had a very exteneivetexperienee in this branch of
nrchieology, and might fie induced on seeing this
reference to bi^ qualifications to contribute a
reply. There are probably many other archieolo-
giuta equnUy qnahtled to give an opinion (auii-
ported by evidence ) on this flubjd'ct, out as J ao
not happen to know them aa tbu« apecially
qualified, I have alluded to him whom I do know
as having directed his attention to the question.
The jiATSL Sir Samitel O'Mallict, Bart. — In
a cutting from the Mttyo ComtUution newspaper
publiabea in August, 1804, 1 find it stated that
this gentleman, who died on the 17th of that
month, had been for the long period of sLiiy-three
years a magistrate and grand juror of the co.
Mayo, and that during the whole of that period
no act of his as a magistrate ever met the censure
of the superior tribunals or the government of the
country. This is, I Chink, worth putting on
record in the pages of '*N. & Q." Y» 8. M,
SuROPSHrRE Sayings, — An old lady, who was
the daughter of a Salopian farmer, and who died
not long since at the age of seventy-eight, waa
accustomed l^ make use of the following sayings,
whicb had been current in her early dRys m her
native county. Some of them are curious, and
may be found interesting : —
»*^ Choke chicken, more hatching.*' A vanation
of the proverb, that ** As good iish remain in the
sea as over came out of it*'
'^ Noble aa the race of Sheukin and line of
Hurry Tudor.''
'* lie smites like a basket of chips *' ; t. «. of
habit and unconsciously.
*' Useful as a shin of beef, which has a bigbooe
for the big dog, a little bone for the little dog,
and a sinew for the cat**
*' It's all on one side like Bridgnorth election.*'
*'Ahem! as Dick Smith said when he swal-
lowed the diflhclout," signifying that troublea
should be borne with fortitude.
** All frienda roimd the wiiikin.*'
^ElKCN BAtiAiKH'.— On the Uy-leaf of a weH-
bound and ill- thumbed copy in* my poseeasion of
the third edition ^t A Vindictilimi of K^ CKarUt
the Mwit/r (London : prmted ioi '&..N^'^^te;\,iiX'Oafe
^^Jb
10
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«fcS.TrLXv.v.7.7K
KiDg*8 Ileftd iQ St, Paura Cbu^h YnnJ, 1711),
proTing that His Majesty was the author of this
fiercely-coD tested work, are these MS, note5>,
with the autogTRpha of their respective attes-
tors:—
** Wlnehilsea, Aug. y" 12, 1722.
" I dot' afSrm that in the yenr l(^SS^ M" (fomposson
(wife to Thomas Mcnnpes9on/E5q, of liruhnm, in Somer-
^etshiri*, a worthy and a verv good V\''om.in) told mo and
my Wife that Archbishop J*nxton (*»>) a^aur'd lier that
to his Of ruin knowledge the'lilKHNBASUlKH' wat all
com pa?) VI and written by Kin^; Charles y* first.
*' Although in the following Book the King's Book is
thoroughly Vindicated, and proved to be of his Majesties
Compoaiogi I was willing to add this CircumBtance from
M" Motnpeasotit with wlu^ni and her IJa^band my Wife
acd I at that time sojotiru*d. " WixcniUiEA.
•* The Author of the following Tracts was the R' Rer-
«Tend M' Wagstaffe, who was conacrrutcd a Bishop bv
the Rt. Reverend the Deprived Bpa. of Norwich, Ely &
Pet«rbur(jb, & the R^ RevVi Ctorge If tckoa. Suffhignii
Bishop of Thetford. The Kt. Honorable Henry Earl af
Clarendon being a Witriesa llicreto.
"J.Cu«YK,
" Chaplain to L* Winchelaea.'*
John Slkioh.
Thornbridge, BakewelL
AvEBAGE OP Hitman Life. — I am rector of a
' country parish^ the popuktioB of which, at the
Inst censUB, was 401, the males and females heing
exactly equal iti umuber* In the ten flucceedinf?
years there have b>'en sixty-eight deaths, of which
thirty-six have heen those of females. The
general average of age has been forty- nine years ;
•the average of males a fraction over forty-nine
years; that of the females, therefore, a fraction
under that age. Ten of the entire number have
lived to over ei^^hty yearst of whom eight were
feoiAlefii one of theae latter being ninety-two
when she died. I do not Imow how these nurn-
bera will bear coir pa i son with those of other
panshea* but one thing atrikes me in looking them
over— while the averag:e length of life is a little
itt favour of the males, the females show a larger
aumber atttiiuing to extreme old age,
W. M. IL C.
French War .^ongs.— In 77*<? Standard of
Dec. ^0 is *' The Christmas of a German Soldier."
Fritz, in a letter to Oretchen, describes "the
situation *' and his hopcs^ ami gives snatches of a
song which he hears the French ringing on the
opposite bank of the Mame : —
'♦These words they put into King VVilUnm's moolh :—
" * Qni soutlonfka h ch"<? des miens? De vos valise
Qui sondcra la jirofondeur?
Von Tano, liero.-i |iil];»rd, V'erder, brulcar d'(%li96S)
Et Tieacon, gendarme frondeur.
« Ces Fmnc9» fils de Rati!, n^ont-ils pas rimpndence
De combattrc en jileine clartd
Nona* Seigneur, que tu i\n ncrpeats par la pmdence
£t loupa par la filrodttS ?
*' Ta justice, o Seigneur, e»t comine la tortuc»
Leiite, mais sdre d'arriver»
La mienne a pris son temp*; ma rancoue tctue
Mit cinquante ans k la couver.
"Qui* dei)uis Iifna^ je n*ai pn aans «onQVauc«
Digerer le rire latin.
Digt^rer est le mot ; s'lla sunt tout co&nr en France,
Chez noud on est ton! iateaiin.
"Bismarck a des consctls loyatix sur toutes choscs;
II me souffla Vavia divin
D'envover mes enfantii, chiens oonchantSf donsc et ro^eiil
Mendier au pays du vin.
^ Comment se d^fier dc cea souples earrurefl ?
Tout foyer leur fut indulgent,
Mes cherub ins on t pris I'empri^iute dei sefrorcs t
^A moi la eavc, ^ moi Targcnt.**
I cannot learn more about the song, but I thini
if the whole can be found it ia quite as worthy oi
preservation in '* N. & Q." as any war song j%*fl
tne^erted. 11. B, C. '
U, U. Club.
MoxT Ce^is Tujtnel. — The following, fron
the 2>rti/y NttDs of Dec. 27, 1870, is worth putting
on record in '* N, & Q.'* :—
** Bardonbche, Dee, 25. 4.15 P.M,
**The last diaphragm has just been bored exactly in
the middle of the Mont Ceni^ Tunnel, amid rcpewtcd
shouti from one side to the other of * Long live Italy I *
" The greatest engineering work of the great centur
of engineering ha» at last been aecomplished. The Monti
Ccnifl Tunnel is perliaps a more wonderful trimrtph off
goDiiis and perseverance than the Atlantic Telo^'inph oc
the Suez Canal. Its length is seven miles and ti)rea-|
fiAhss it is twenti*-Bl3t feet and o quarter in width, nnd nine
teen feet eight fnchei in height, and will carrj' a doubh
line of rail 3 from France, umWr the Al pis to Itnly. Tlifl
tunnel, which b of course anfinished as yet, hfti? hi^n cuft
by atmospheric machinery through the ftoUd rock, echiii^
limestone, and quartz, the air which moved the cliiicli
escaping from its compression to *upply the lungs of th
workmen. The work has been fifteen years in i^r^ ^
without reckoning the time ?pent in preliminary i
ligations ; it has been carried on conlintiously fmrnl
tiJi now. The railway up the Sion valley will rt<y
before long, carry ibi passengers straight throiiixh frunn
Fourneau:x to Ilardoni^idie, and it will be po^ ' ' ' ^^
from Paris to Milan wilhont climbing an Ali
even changing the railway carriage. So far
transit is concerned, there are therefore do n>tau Alpi
The gresil rocuntnin chain has been flnally removedi
Thi^ immense work has been curried out under va«it diftn
cuUiea. There could be no ?ihflft» m in the fehort tunnell
which pierce oor little English hills, and all the df^hrim
had to he carried back to the entmnce. It was begun a^
both end*, and the workmen who thus st^rtcil sfivi-a
miles apart, with a moontain chain between them, hav|
met as accurately as thongh there had been but a hill td
pierce. As a trinmpli of engineering skill, we imuM
mark this work as one of the new wonders of the world/'*
Phtli? S. Kik&.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
AlXrSlOir WANTMD : HbITET VATTOHAJr. —
*• if sadden storms the day inviid<?,
Thvy flock «bout him to the aliade :
Wli€r« wisely they exptrt the entl,
Giving the tempest time to spend;
And hard by shelters on sonie bough,
HHariofCt senmnt, the taffe vnttp"
Who IB HUarion ? And how is the crow called
his f^rrant ? A. B. Gbosart,
Si- GeorgeX Blackbom, Lancaahire,
AMEBiCAif "National Sqi^o/' — Can I obtain
tkrough ♦* N, A Q.," or by tUo medium of your
coirespondenta in America, information respecting
a ** national song*' which cauie out shortly after
the declaration of war between Engliind and
America in the year 1612 P
I can only remember the fiiBt stanza, -which la
M follows : —
** Co] aiobia'« shores are wide am! wild^
Columbiana hills are high i
And rudely pkDtcd side Uy Mde,
Her forests mett the eye.
B«t lowly must liiose shores be made,
And low Colttmbta's hilLa ;
And low her andi'pi forest a laid,
K'fT freedom quits her Ht Ida.
Fur in thia Inod so rude and wild
She plaved her gambols when a cbil«l.**
A:x5A IIarrisojt.
Anifii or FLTsinsn FAMTLTEa.— Labl4ci: would
W glad to know if there is any list of names nnd
»nns of Flemish famiUefj Miuilur to our Edmoud-
wn; or where would be the proper place to in*
^uixe for the arms of a family of Flemiah origin.
lUrn AunLET of Saxdhach, — I _find in an
old memoranda book for 18C4 —
r*Ti) Srtndbach (in Che*lure), ivhcre I went to the
clir, t, ^- ne years, ago it waa nearly rebuilt, and con-
. m'ofiumcnts suffered consid^^ralKv I went
li!in«e, where be showed mo a bra.** pljitc
n on it to one Raph Audley; this 1j«
! the church at the time of the repftire,
...-. ui ^^ . never been rt-placed Uecimao the clcrin-
>^Q tftoiuriu it was too shabby to be put agaiast the
Who was Raph Audley ? G. W. M.
BiBtE lLLrsTBATio\'s. — ^^Tlavlng a fragment
^oaisting of thirty-tivc leaves of u &aiall qtiuito
^ '> '^ ' i|^ri«iinf( woodcut illustrntioua to the Old
I am desijrous of learning the dat^
, . - .1 cation^ kc. The illusU ations ( probably
c«t la the fiixteenth century) aie 3j inches by
2i inches, tet in a framewo'rk having fifriirea at
w« »ide with deTicea and such like at top and
^teiil. Under the illustration are five or ax
li^H in German explanatory of the subject, while
•^vu it are the references to the hook and chap-
**t. iVohably the framework may have served
^ot some other religious publication ; there are
eight varietieB of it, repeated on each sheet, witli n
ninth variety occasionally itsod. On two of them,
at the bottom^ occur the letters mf, the letter F
being formed on the li^t limb of the letter M.
Some of the j^ubjects are drawn in a masterly
manner; others are rather poor. I shall bo glad
of a reference to a perfect copy for a further
knowledge of the few leaves in rav posaeasion.
W. P.
Jonix Bo VET, — I shall be much obliged for
any information concerning the ancestry, mar-
riage, kc. of J ohn Ik)vey, whose daughter Mary
married Francis Courtenay (who obit 1699, v,p*
Sir William Courtenay of Fowderhnm ), ancestor
of the present Lord Devon.
Edmund M, Boixk.
Cathedral Biclls. — What are the weights of
the great bell of St. Peter's at Rome, the great
bell of the liremlin at Moscow, and the great bell
of St. PauFa of London ? and are there any others
exceeding the weight of the lai-gest of iheao
three? C.
[The great bell of St PetBr*a at Rome wefp^hs eight
tons, aecordini:; to Mr E. B«M:kett Donison, The great
bell of Moscow contains 10.000 poodo, equal to 4O0»O0O
Russian pounda, or to 36t^000 EDy;li«h pounds. (Dr,
Lyall, see " N. & Q." -i^^ S. i. ,140,) The present great
bell of St. Paul's weifjh?^ about dve tons. (Sin, Tiiukvlj
WALKsnt in « N, & q;* 1»«» S, v. 41[).) ]
CoBBLTsns' Lamps ix Italy. — In niany of thd
smnll towns and villages of Italy, the cobblers, at
nighty have a glai«s globe filled with water, fixed
in a wire frnme, and attached to their lamps or
candles. This has somewhat the same effect as
a ground-glas* shade^ and causes a subdued light
to be thrown upon the work, I suspect that this
simple contrivance is very ancient, and probably
of Koman origin. It see ma confined to the son a
of ** Cre5«pino/* Are such globoa alluded to by
any ancient author ? James IlESinr Dixon.
CooKEs: Cookbsey: Cookb,— Some years ago
a friend drew my attention to the review of some
book in which the author seemed to show that
those who bore the above names were of the samo
fauiily. This I believe to be the case, hot should
like to see the book. Can any reader of *' N.^^ Q.J*
do me the favour to send me its title? The
review appeared in some newspapt^r, it is believed,
within the last t«n years. 11. W, Cookes.
Afctley Rectory, near StourporL
CoRXisn SPOKEN ly Devonshihe.— Can you
tell me where to fmd a statement that I have
read somewhere, that the Comiah, or at least a
British, dialect was stili spoken in Devonshire
after the Norman conquest, and whether there is
any authority for it ? There is reason to believe
that in AHBer*s time it was used in Somersetshire
also J for he gives ua the BdlUV tvKcaa oK. *Caa
SrOTEB AM) QUERIES,
f4*«"9,vn, JA3r,7,*nJ
This was about the *nd
R. 0. A. P,
forest called Selwood,
of tUu iilutli ceotury,
^ Tub Puioow.— What U the eaiiieet deUaea-
llon of the drmon, acui bad it two or fotir U^ P
M.D.
Eastern Story. — At th© end of the thirtj-
eighth cUnpter of Great Expt^dxitiom ttllusion is
made to the Eiistorti story of u heavy elah that
was to full on a bed of statt}. Where is the story ?
DoK.
Sixt Chahles Egertott, KjnoHT, — Wruited,
information on this 'Mrnight'* (probably a foreign
honour), vrho was living in 1G51. Henry Vaughan,
tha Silurifit^ dedicated two volumca to him. I
have searcht^d in vain in many quarters^ and
others fur me^ with equal un success. Required
im media t<3h% and therefore answers will please be
addre«eed to Rev. A. B. Gao84.BT| St George's,
BJackbonij Lancashire*
EftirrvALENT Foreign Titles. — By what court
can foreign titles used in Eoijlaud be tested ? So
far as I can uiiderstand, an Knplii*h arniiger ranks
with a foreign ohle, while Englidh peers are dc
facto more than a mutcli for mere titular princes,
who*e claims cannot be referred to a committee
of priviU'ges^ and who are therefore only to be
taken for what they may bo worth in eafh one's
opinion. It does seom wronp^r however, that fvd^
applied to our own noble* and gentry abould be
waived in the case of atran^^er^. At this rate
mauy noblemen and untitled gentry have equal
nretensions to royal descent fromSaxon and Welsh
Jctngs aud princes, but how absurd were JU^rd
Howdea to style hinutelf H.R.H, Prince Ooradoc*
T— N,
"Lk Faecefr bu Joitr rt be la Nuit.*^ —
I have a very badly printed and faulty copy nf
this little book. Will some one oblige me with
the worda j^ven below? The lines count from
the top of the page.
Page 16. Two fir.* " " ' -' ''"- 1, 5, M, 17, 18.
PaK«29, The wl
Page 47. Two ti) -1-34 incltwive,
Puge Hi, Two In: L uiirdn u\ liuci U, 24.
P»go 8 L The whulo of lino *i.
L. X.
Lbtxkk OP OAtrtEO,— In a book, csalled The
liimie L{ft of GaliUo^ publishid by Macmillan
and Co., 1870. the aulhor*s nftmo not attached,
there is pv<^n in a note (p. 74) j? ' Ide
letter of Ualileo to Father Bene i 'ri>
feasor of Mi^' — '■ " at Pi^a, i" •>, ^>u luir mler-
pretation ot . The fef»^r^nce not being
given, I«h-Mii I tr . i <: i on tly obliged to any of your
l«aden« if they could give me the authority, and
aBBttre me of the authenticity of the letter.
Heraldic. — 1, Supposing a woman, not
heti'vis^ to marrv and to ot-come a widow, and the
to mniTy agaui, what arms ebould her second
husband impale? Those of her lather, or the
of her first husband ?
2, If a man who, though in tlio poailaon of %^
gentleman, u not legally entitled to any armoiia^H
bearings should mai-iy an heiress, can the isaue o^|
Ihu marriagL^ bear the mother^ Htixm% in any way —
I. c, fiiaiply, or with some diflWuoce P
w, M. n. c
Herbert of Mpckrtjsb*— Mr. ITenry Artht
Ilerbert of Miickruaa married on Oct.
Elizabeth, second daughter of Viscount
Did tiiis ludy, who was born July 4» I7Li2, pi a
decease her hufibaud ? What ai'e tL<* dat^'8
their respective deaths ? li. 0, 3L \
BoBtERT K^cit, — Can any of your readers ii
form me whether there ia any portrait in^exi*
enco of Mr. Hobert Keck, who purchased tUi
portrait of Shakespeare (afterwards known as tl
Chandos portrait) of Mi*9. Barry tho actresi^P
believe I have a portrait of this gf^
came from Minchenden House, ;
cannot identify it for certain unless by compiri
with an undisputed picture of Mr. Keck
F. L. COLVILBJ
Lei?k-Wotton, Warwick^
Laird, — Can a *' port loner '* of land be pr<
perly styled *' Laird/' a^ I see Mr. IloGi:ns, in hi
account of the Eoger family, portiomvA of Coupi
Grange (4*" S, vi. 482), tireata the designatioiifi
aynonymoua ? The possesc^ion of an entire '
in fee- simple appears to me to be necea
constitute a landed proprietor a laird. If I
'' portioner,^' i. e. every proprietor of one or mo,
portions of a parish or barony, be a Ifiirtl, that till
has lost ita meaning — laird or lord = baron, oa^
who, originally at Icaat, held a barony dircctl'
from the crown. C* S« K«1
St, l'oter*s Square, Ufttnmcrsroitli, W.
Pbdiorke or Horximeb. — Sir Fdmund
Mortimer, of Wigmore, mortaDy v - ^ ^ * '
battle of Builth, ]:jO:3, married *i^l
ter of Sir William de Fenolles, autj » xi.ii-.>.-u-
of Queen Eleanor, How waa i)iU >targarel^
related to the good q^ueon? AV, M. H. C.
Pools, 'or MoTjTHf? op Strkajis. — ^The area
or mouths of streams opening into the Men
loaat as high as the tide llows. ai^e de
** Fools," and I el " ' ' ' ' w yfU
this ia a local pe^ ^ in ot
rivers. On thesouia nuiu r.i
Walla<»ey Pool, Biikct or Ti;
boro* Pool, Nether and Over 1 uw, .-
Boat-houae Pool at Uunconi, and Wilder i
near Warrington. Then on its north l>a
have Pool Mouth, or Fresh Pool, alao near W«
rf^
4^s-Tn*jA3i.7*'n.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
13
ftetoQ; Ladf Pool at Hale, Gar.^oii Pool, Ot-
ter ji Pciol, and lastly » Livcrpaol. M. D.
PinvAiTLY-rHijrTco Boojfs. — IMiat is the
OKciltst instnace of n book bearing on its title-
piffs tfmt it U ^* \mviii*Ay printed*' or **prmt«d
^ l2\Uou**F Am I correct in sup-
V'
iu no oxampla of iiuoh aa aii^
u yivvioas to IToO, if aa early P
F. M. S,
■ ■■ ■ \x
< 'wa-
ited
■ /fa-
1$:
$•• B
SoeLely.]
Tnt' T>f>Tv't> op " Gdido's AiTBOHA."— Can any
'i: mform me who is the atithor of
tli^ ._ ,„....; appear at the bottom of the well-
lown print of *'Guid(ya Aurora," I have in-
ind in vfu:i of iinvong whom I know; and the
nliject 39 L'di and the lities themseUos
lie so accui nptivo of it, and ao poetical,
tbat 1 venture to think that an nnsw^^r to my
miery may ratify othnra beside myself. It is a
<|Adsllo(n ill' :^t, whether th© lines were
imttfrTt for iv>, orthu picture ^vas com-
Ml-., : ,. ,.._ ..■. .W*
1 quatd tlie lines from memory.
*8iir. RoBixsox
TlIK PJ10KU5CIATI0K D» GHEBtL AND LaTLX.
\\.:\ . r .1 _:__ _ i. i,^^^ ^^|^^ write in
rua'r iSV»/iiAWHnd
n , uad niiiiHt wort>ally
i^ljon of Hughy^ writinjj:
— tlie Latin v ** was always
r w^ or «£>*'; «o that i^nitm wa.i
jLnura/*nQd r*a"weeft/* Another
at asdca how wc would pronounce
animi/' or the following well-known
*• Vrn f ttri r vnlidat ia Tiiopr^vertite vires."
become '* Qui otii-di I ** A
uk-
VoF SiVTrirrt'^ ♦'TnT:\TT^T^ on Obligations."
h them n in of this work?
WheiiP iwi. . review, or notices
fmavftlly of th<3 wurk in uillier French or Ene^-
fafcf T, A, M,
W * ^ — The Inte Lord ITotham had a
wMi m i ^ir clnspi. Could anyone hare
a medal with fowiten claapa ? Or what is the
greate-it numbiT of clasps that anyone cotdd bo
entitled top Box.
Wttlfbu^a. — Who was Wulfrima? Threo of
your correspondents (4*** S. vi, 53G) name her A3
the sister of three did'ereut Saxon king^, and give
two datei, tweaty-gix years apart, fur the foimdn-
tion of her monastery. Wuifruna, wit's of Earl
AldheliUp miiat have been Edgar's sister, if her
fomidation were in 070 j for had she been tha
dieter of Ethelred II,, her age in that year would
have been six ytars at the utmost^ Bbe appCKTS
to have been tie only daughter of Edmund 1, and
Elgiva, and the sL^tor of Edwy aud Ed;/ar* The
sister of Egbert would inOOO'hfive attiiiiied the
venerable age of 20O yeara. IlEaiLnxrRUDE.
YoHKdHrBE Prayer-book.— A friend of mine
has an old will, in which occurs the pa&fsage : —
'* 1 leave the »imi of siJspeacD Ui , to buy a Yofk-
^liiro Pmyer-hook, tlierewilti to quiat kb conicieace, if
mdcfid be have auy coujcciencc."
What was the Yorkshire Prayer*hook? la
Lowndes* Bibiiof/raphe/s Manual I find ; —
**lV»ok rtf Common Pmyer, Sheflild, \1^% -Ito, with
aa Exposition, being a few foot-not«a to evade th« law."
la this the Prayer-book rdbwed to, and has it
any farther peculiariiies? M. D.
THE BLOCK BOOKS.
(4^*8. ii. 313, 361, GS5, 4i>l, 447.)
This interesting: subject bavin ^r \if!^n revived m
connection with uiy name in the Art Jfntmal of
November, and in the Bm frier of the lUth ult, I
venture to resume it after a Ispae of two years,
during which it has been impossible I could
attend to it with that care its importance demand*
If however, by your indul^euc<>, I am now ner—
mitted to continue it iu ** N. ."t Q,,'' I shall b©
prepared to do !*o as long as may be ncce&sary for
a crtmplete elucidation of the numt?rous questions
which yet remain to be solved.
One of the mnst mischievous ff* a tnres connected
with the ** History of Early Printing and En-
pra\injr *^has been the system adopted by authors
of induljrin^ in ** j^eneral pos^biiities," and after-
Trards dealinj^ with them as " ndmiiit <1 frutha/*
The extent to which this pernici o has
been carried i.« ind«ed almost inc An
ioBtfince of it may be readily found in Mr. H,
Xoel HumphTey*8 work entitled A Jftstoiyo/the
Art of Fnndnff. London^ 18t>fi: where, iu pp*
:30, 31, the following crowd of imugiBarr Iheoriea
oceura ! —
<* It is hij^hly pvobnble"—*' which may be
fairly attributed to'*— *'It is mora than pro-
bable'* — ** There i« yet «ome T>ttkftatk \.^ vi^-
I
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[4»hS.Vn. jAW.7,Ti.
poee"^ — ^'*It i« eTident from ** — " whicli l^ad
probftbly for'*— " whicli could only h& obtained I
by '* — *' we may preaumo *' — ** These last may
however *' — ** which latter were possibly " —
«* appears highly probable *' — ** It is therefore
possible'* — ** may have been brtmght ** — "The
knowledge may have spread ^* — ** may however
hav<? beeu ^* — ** may have been turned '* — " may
possibly have never been/^ &c,, &c*
As the result of these ** possibilities/' several
startling^ but positive fitatements appear in the
same two pages, unqualified by doubt of any kind j
and authoritatively announced as /ac^^ to be relied
on| and to be accepted aa such by tbe reader.
JBx, ^, % -^
** Engraving^ on wood had however been us«d in
Europe, in a crude forui, hng bffort the time of the
FgloB."
*^ It is kMwn that imagojt of Miint^ were produced by
flimllar nieaus as enrly us tbc ninth century*."
"The art of printing patterns on stuflTs, by means of
engntved tablcta of woodor metal, was in use la Europe
ia tbe twelfth century/^
These declarations only equal in boldness that
of Moirs. J. Ph. Beejeau (in '^ N. & Q./' Oct. 31,
1868, p. 421), who therein affirmed that *' thou-
sandi of such i mattes of saints [viz., like the " St.
Chrishpher^^ called of ** 1423'*] were printed before
the invention of typography, and cHstnbuted for
cash at the doors of the conieftts''' — ^an assertion,
I venture to state, as reckless and unfounded as
ever escaped the pen of the moat careless writer.
Being an utter diabeliever in any theories
"which need so many flights of fancy to maintain j
them^ I at once declare mv preference for the
region of " Fact/' and therefore call upon !^f tsarH.
H. Noel Humphreva and J, Ph. Berjeau for the
authorities on which their stirmises ore hazarded.
If they are forthcomingj well and good ; their
true value can then be properly estimated ; but,
in any other event, the interest of art demands
they should be swept away as mischievous ^^ Will
o* the Wiaps" — mere decoys — to mislead the
unwary. Isotwithatanding the credit deservedly
attached to the well-known name of " Weigel of
Ij*)ip8ig/' AS one of the *' oraclea '* in connectioii
with ♦* Early Engraving and the Block Books,"
1 venture, at the risk of being roundly abused for
on- temerity^ to positively deny the power of
Mr. Weigel to produce a eingle engraving of the
twelfth century, to which period he attributes a
portion of his collection, and I invite him to do
eo. The truth is (unpalatable as it may be) that
all the professors of xylograpbic art have per^
mitted themselves to be thormighly deceived by
the so-called " St Christopher of 1423,'* now in
Lord Spencer^s collection ; and, misled by Hei-
Jiecken's folly, have blindly wandered into a
labyrinth of difficulties from which they cannot
now escape. From Heinecken (1771) to "H. Noel
Humphreys (18(58), '<1423** has been treated byi
one and all as the true date of ** the St. Christopher, j
and they have accordingly eagerly seized upon*
and adopted it as their sheet-anchor— the foun*
dation stone of thtir building — the compass
by which all their theories have been guided,
and their "dreams*' attempted to be justitied:
whereas my showing in September 18(38 that
the date "1423'* was not that of the enff raving A
butj with the inscription, had direct and ejrchmvel
reference to the ** Legend of St Christopher^** I
whose jubilee year was *^1423" (aa shown by'
Mr. TnoMS), added to the undeniable fact that
the woodcut was printed with printing ink, and
produced by a printing press — altogether ex-
ploded the deception, and, as a neceweary conse-
quence, utterly destroyed at one fell swoop all
the legion of unsound speculative theories founded
on such universal belief in the imaginary date
assigned to the engraving. It is wholly useless,
for any one of those who have written on theJ
subject to now attempt to deny that all werel
tboroufi^hly misled by the date on the *^ Stil
Christopher " ; and such being the case, I find in
that simple but important fact (as well as in]
the circumstance that every icriter on " £arlj
Engraving and tbe Block Books '' has altogethel
overlooked the labour of ten of the most aetiva
years expended on wood engraving by the greatest
master in that branch of art of the fifteenth cen-
tury) a perfect justification for mv altogether re-
jecting either of the theories heretofore propounded
on the subject of " Early Engraving and tneBlo '
Books,'^ which are repugnant tn common sen
and antagonistic to truth ; ond I ckim to standi
excused if, in tighting my present battle single-]
handed^ I unhesitatingly declare the statement
** of the Block Books being the production of the
beirinmngof the fifteenth century " as thoroughly
illusory and groundless as the supposed ** Sl
Cbristopher or 1423,*' ** tbe Brussels Virgin
1418," or " the Paris impostures of 140C."
My rt^mark applies equally to the statement
nuide by the conceited Heinecken, the critic*
Ottley, the volatile Dibdia, the plodding Jackson
the ponderous Sotheby, the enthusiasric Weigelj
or to Messrs, U. Noel Humphreys and J. Phi
Berjeau, all of whom I maintain to be utterly
wrong in every cardinal point of their theoriea^
and I challenge literature to make good, by satis-
factory proof, a single one among them.
This broadcast defiance may prima facte apj^ea
indiscreet, if not unjustifiable; but the propriet;^
of it will, if my challenge be accepted, be fulljj
justified by the elucidation of a state of things i
present but feebly imngined by the general nubli
and a death-blow be dealt to illusions which haf
hitherto sufficed to blind the senses » and mi sic a
the intelligence of some of the most eminent mejj
who have made " early printing and engraving ^
ided
;loclc^
tan<^l
igle-H
"'^nt ^
^he
4«8.Vn. J*a.7,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
15
tlittr p^^ciilirir Etudy. ** False dates" — ^* wilful
111 —'* inventions '* — ^Mgnorance*^ —
4ti -t fliglita of imag-ination^" have,
iJi -'1 uf time, been accepted as fact, and
hi uUcbief has conaequentlj ariaen there-
froou Many instances of tliia being so mifyht
b» readily adduced, but for the present one will
Wbmt document connected with art literatare
esa be cited to conn pare in interest to the Family
Diary of Albert Diirerf the details of which are
y*,^ _, :iu. ...„ ,. ,j^ throughout the civilieed
v nl faith, as being: the simple
fcii'ui c..*vo.^t ii i.xM 'u of the great artist himself;
and yet, no more mendacious relation can be fijund
than that verv Diary in the shape in which it haa
been permitted to reach the maeteenth centurr.
Author after author has sointerijolated it— firi^t m
one language and then in another, to suit his
pirticular views and Btrengthen his especial argu-
ment*— that ii« truth, as a guide to Diirer'a real
|K«it3on in life, has he«n utterly and wilfully per-
tefted and lost aii^ht of; and yet, to this moment,
not a soul eveu imagines Buch a possibility,
Kootring it to bo so (and being at present engaged
ifl pfep^ifiog for publication the proof of what I
ti '■ », I may well claim indulgence, if,
' r all that has hoen written or i ma-
gi ii* a fMi ihe subject of the *' Block Books and
Early Printing and Engraving/" I prefer to con-
*ult dirfrl the sources whence every author on
Ums subject must, or at all events ought to, have
(1^^, .J t, ;. information, and to express my own
\' 81, notwitkstandiug it may be diame-
tr )3ed in almost every circumstance and
<« V and every thing hitherto submitted
tii%li can possibly bo desired by my
. md their name is " Infegion *') than to
ftc«wi*r and crush my objections, if they have
but fn'fh ntj their side. Let them furnish the
/ liich they rely to justify their avowed
c and 1 will then citlier promptly refute
lljcm, 01 very thankfully admit my defeat and their
jtwt cljiini to' ft victory, which will ii5siiredly secure
tliMO Uic grateful remembrance of posterity.
IlBNur F, II01.T.
PARODIES*
(4** S. yi. 470.)
Tlie fnllnmng books consist of parodiesi or
halMons of modern authors, more or less in the
•Ctb of thoaii in the Reiecied Addressee : —
f; «r, tlieTheatnim
ilior/* 4th cd, with
VifSiot, oonipoi»ed by
1 r, bat uol published
in any former edition of their works/* 8vOf London,
im4,pp. 102.
[Attributed to Horace Twiss].
*' Parodies on Gay, To which is added th(^ Batth of"
the RuAta : a Fab U{ attempted in the Style of Uudibras."
&ina]l 8vo, London, n, d,, pp. b2.
" VVarn?uiana ; vriih Notea» Critical and Exptanatorj'.
Uy the Editor of a Quarterly Review,'* Small 8vo, Lou-
don, 1824, pp. 208.
[A series of clever jeu^ d'etprk in the manner of the
Bejected Adtbessen, written bv William Frederick Dea
e«ni, a friend aud fellow-pupil of the late Serjeant Ta"
fourdf who has prefixed a memoir of blin to hl^ ta
Annette, 3 vol^. 8vo, 1852. Mr. Deacon wrote alao "Th
Sorrows of a Bashful Irishman " in Blackwood s Mag<
zine, and a series of papers entitled *' The Picture Gallery.*
if e died at hlin^tou iu lb45, aged forty-six.]
♦'Rejected Articles.** 8vo, London (Colhum), 1826,
pp. 35a.
[These clever Imitations of Elta, Cobbett, Ward, Haz-
litt, Leij^h Hunt, d>o., are, onlike those I have already
notedt entirely in prote,']
*^ Scenes from the Rejected Corae<Ues, by loiue of the
Competitors far the Prize of 500/, oifvred bv Mr.B. Web-
ster," &c. Svo, Lnn.iun (Punch O^ce}, 1844, pp. 48.
" The ShilUnji Book of Beauty. Edited and lllttalrated
by Cuthbert Bede, B.A." 8vo, Londou (Blackwood),
ii. d., pp. 326.
♦*Tho Ptippet-Showmsn*s Album. With Contributions
bv the most eminent Light and Heavy Writers of the
iJft.v. Illustrated hy Gavanii." 8vo, LandDn, n. d., pp. 52.
•*Oiir Miijccllany (which ouf^ht to havo Come out,
but Didn't)^ containing Contributions bt' W. llaraaaiug^J
PjiinjjW(irtb» Prt^fesAt>r Strongfellow, G. P. II. JacobuivJ
&o., and other eniJaent Authors." Edited by £. H,
Vates and R, B. Brougb." Small 8vo, London, 1856,
pp. 189.
In addition to these volumes, which contftin
parodies of variott^ anthora, the following may !
mentioned aa being imitAtions of some otte author
or book :^
♦* WhitehaU ; or, the Davs of George IV," 8vo, Lou-
don (W. Marah), 1827, pp. ^30.
[This e^ttraorriinary and now *oar<w work waa the pro-
duction of the late W. Mairinii, LL.D. " Th& object/^
mvfi the Quarterfif Rivietc^ " jj* to laugh down the Bram-
Idctye House 8peciea of novel; and for this purpose w«
are 'prcAtnt^^d with such an historical r(*niflnce as an au-
thor of lirumblt'tyo Hou*e, flouriahin^ in Barb^doej 200
or 2000 year.-* hence, we «re not certain which, nor is the
circumstance of material moment, might fairl}' he ejt-
pected to rompof^; of and concerning the personages^
manners, and events of the age and country' in which 1
we live Tbe bofik is, in fact, a series of pnrotlicgJ
upon unfortunate Mr. Horace Smitb,— and it h payiogl
the author no compliment to say that \u» miniicry (witR 1
all iti imperfectioas) dejervea to outUvo the ponderoulj
original/* My own opinion is somewhat at varianc<l»i
with that of the reviewer; but the work i« a very curlousJ
one, and raoilt* a pl;ico among clever imitations.— StMJ th« "
Dublin Unie. Mug., Jan. 184-1, p. 8C.]
"Lexiphanei!, a Dialogue imitated from Luciao, And
suited to the present time*. Being an attempt to restore
tin? r'n^U^h tongue to its ancient purity," Ac. 8vo, Lon-
don, 1783.
[A well-known imitation of the JtyU «£ \>t.^cfQ3iW
by Archibald Campbell.'l
16
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[4*^8. TIL Jaw. 7.'
**The VVhtg'd Snpprtcatioii, or the 3cot*« Hudfbran. A
Mock Poem. In Two rojrU/' By Samuel ColviL 12mo,
St. Aiiaaw*, 1796.
** The Lay of Lbe Scottuh Ftddlc, A Poem. In ¥iv6
Cftotoa. Siippoiwl to be written hy W S , Esq/'
Small 8vo, London, 1814.
[Variously 'nttribnted to WailiiniTtoTi Irviji^ and Jani^A
Kirko Paulding; the lutt^r Attribution probably eor-
rKt].
**JokebTrta Burlos^uc oa Rokeby. A Poc*ni. In Six
Cantod. By au AiuAtour of Faahioo." Bro, Londoa,
1813.
[By T. Tegg or John Hoby. S«e " Jf , Ji Qr ptusim.^
*• Friii^mcnts, nft<^r tho Manner of Interne." By Isaac
BraiidoQ. r2mo. Printed for the AuLbor,
This list mijLcht be greatly extended, but is
alrendy sufHcieutly long. I mudt not^ however,
conclude without reminding W* O. D of a, few
derer piurodjea buried i^moa^ other matter. 8ucb^
for infltAnce, w© : Pope's ** Irnitalions of English
Poets ^*; tbo well-known ** Pipe of Tobacco; in
Imitation of Six Several Authors,'* by Isaac
Hawkina Browne (see bis Pt^etm upon VariovM
^uif/eoiitBYOf 1708, or the CamhndtjeTart, p. 176) ;
the *^ Caatle of Indoleuce," by James Taomson,
. ** writ in the nianmjr of Spenser"; the imitations
\(/LfA of the style of Milton, by Wmmmm PhilUpa; those
^ I of Miltna and Spenser, by T. Warton; and, finftDy,
tbe "Curious Fragments extracted from a Com-
mon Place Book, which b«lon;,fed to Robert Bur-
ton^ the Famous Author of the Anatomt/ of
Mdancholy^^^ by Charles Lamb ; cwm m»U(* aim.
WlU-LlM BjklEd.
Birmlogham.
Though this class of composition is by no
means scarce, very few collections of parodies have
at any time appeared. I may mention Thackeray's
aeries of Old Friends with New Faca^ aA ful Ellin ^jr
tbe requirements of jjarody, though they perhaps
Ml short of a collection. "Among them is to be
found a parody on ** Wapning Old Stairs,'* in
which the usual order of burlesque is inverted,
the ridiculous being raised to the her^iic instead
of the heroic being lowered to the ridiculous. I
am acquainted with no more plea^og parody than
that on Southey^s ballad *' You are old, Father
William t the young man cried/* to be ft»imd in
Alices Adiienturei in Wondtrhmdj though it is
not BO generally known as the ahnost classical
narody in Ingoldaby ou the " Death of Sir John
Moore/' In Hood's works will be found some
half-score of them, mostly on songs and ballads
ponnlar forty years ago, and eonsi^ticntly not very
telling on the present generation. ''"We met,
'twas in a crowd, and I thought he had done
me,'* is one I can at present call to miud. iVl-
though the number of parodies of reputation is
small, few works escape the ordeal of bmrleeque.
VoningMhy begat Codlingt^y^ and liokdry begat
Jokcbtj, The hvnms of Dr. WatU are made the
vehicle of parody in a manner whidi wonli
scarcely b© admircrd by that divine, Goethe^
Fmt9t has quite recently passed through aevej
dramatic versions, in one of which, ** There
king in Thule," is rendered by *' There wiw a
man in Tooley Street*' I would suggest that the
lUjectHl Addrex$eg are travestied imitationt
than parodies, as your correspondent has dej
them. JuLlAJI 8b.
30, Eastboame Terrace, W.
TIIE **BLirE LAWS" OF COXXECTICCT.
(¥^ S. vi. 485.)
Your C-- - -!nnt Nephbtte gives an
tract relai king tobacco from the **_Bl
Laws, or i^. ; -^,1 .>f lii50 of the Gtmeral
of Connecticut." I should feel much
if he could give some information as
document from whiah the quotation is mi
and as to its authenticity. For many vearo tfai
** Blue Laws '* have been a byword ^ir aaKaam
and satire at the expense of the stem old Pi*
Fathers, wlio went forth to people tbe
ness, the Bible in one hand and the s'
the other, and who were more conversant
the code of Moses than with the practicee of
hetm monde. We often see quotations made, and no
doubt there ia something m existence purporting
to be the code in question, but that there ia any
authentic document containing the absurdities bo
freuuently ascribed to it I cannot admit until it
is demonstrated hy satisfactory evidence. I ba-
lieve it to be a literary imposture, to bo clneaad
with the Epistles of Pbalans and the CltroftieiMl
of Ingulf.
I have met with a passage in a work receni
published,* which contirms this view* The wni
paid a via it to Dr, John Todd, the author of ^
well'lmown Stmhrnt's Manual — one of the oldi
and most respected clergymen in New EogrlaJli
Amongst othi^r things, the following converaaf'
took place : —
" Speaking of the old Patitin strictnesi, nnd of tht
Bo-ealled Blu« Laws of Connectieatj the I ^
* I hava been ainiuod to sea that toine of v «
imagine thnt thtre really m^ctc such laws in Ktu i.i-i^i
The whale thinfj is an nb.^urd ficliont got up t»y
Etiglijih oflict^r who live^l for eomo timo in Conncctlenti
but who dishkwl so much iw strict Sabbath observani'^
tliat, when he went to New York, he drew up thew p!
tended hiws out of *pite and pansed them off tat
i-ntttrtments. It was not wonderful, nerhups, thnt i
so,ignoriLut about ua as thci KnglHU were (should
be^n hoaxctl into the belief that there had really
laws in Connecticut making it penal for a maa to
his wift) on Snudaysi and all that nnnsense ; bat to
some of your living writers still falling into an errori
• Tht Americans at Homif: Pen and Ink Sketehea af
American Men, Manrjerw, and In^ttituttoas, Bv Dtfid
Macrao, 2 vols. Ediabaivh: Ednumstoa ^ t>Ottgta&
ie70.
♦as. VII. Jajc. 7, 71.]
KOTES AXD QUERIES.
17
W
^le
is vtry mtUnrholy* What would ytm think
of an AmcricAQ ivrHin;^ nboat England, imd {juoihi^
k and Uio Bean Stalk* as an autlicotic biiiortcal
k?"
-^f '1- hf* correct, the "Blue Laws of Oonnec-
ti/ np: to tho same cftU'j?*ti«y as Knicker-
bw.-. ^^.4iunj of New York. \ tbink it w very
desirable, for the sake of literary nnd historical
truth, ilutt this point should be cleju-ed up. Your
D it Xepurite may ftid in the inquiry,
In I rom what eoureo he dcri\^ed the qi;o-
lition be? baa given. "What is tht- imprint. Bud
usider wbftt authority is it piibliahed? From
t archives is it drawn? What \% its date,
_^ hat nfimes are attached? Where ib the
tmsrinal documeut, and what sturap of an then-
ticity docs it bear? Auswew to these queries
~^ld ftid in cleariiier up a mystery, or in ex-
1^ a borix whith has been anything: but
ilefl0, J. A* ricToif.
teu^lnow^ WtTertf*^ near LiTeqio?*!,
m. ACGUSTtN'S SRRMOXS.
(4^** S. vi. o02.)
I am U'A awiue of any book which mentions
'' of CftPtbnge ; nor have the churches
^- the srjrniriii'7 of St. Augiistin were
rolled been |> ren in any edition of
tr^tr!;^. For ; i hc; ^leiilMr number of
imkii'tw]! veral places
l'ath^?^ pfL ; specilied in
i^ ol his worii>. TIte CiMfclia JSeiectu
^ Pidjyun (Pitrisiis, 16?iG, cf ^tr/.) COD-
* I [lie works in full, and in this
' i hia sermons huve notices of
tilt pi.ice- where they were pnmched, and with
vae tbe dfttes are also |:^lven* Most of those
oaimer: ' ' ' T, P. will be found in the follow-
^^hl ' 11 the above edition. I give its
OWE etiuKi-t.ru'un generally appending the old
numbering, as attter : —
^mJL XLpC. a/. 237 da tempore, in Matt xx, Ae con-
*»5» iti Tinea. — ^Habitus ad mea^ani * S* C'ypriani in
fcrnj. LXXXVm, al. 18 dc v?rb. Dom«. Pfeacbed at
wbase baCitre hhs XtLnhop Aurelius,
*i.^,„ \i J I* ,. 1... '-^ irmo ado Deverhia K Vang.
iiiif.i.
: at it5 conclu*io»
ly will be th(? anni*
uop — '^dorani aeuLi
• Tlw *' Meny.sx rvpniirii " was the altar de^licated to
Tlij !itm«ur iirti. Bt. Augrii^tin him»t>lf thus
»lt: " i ut DfMtis, qukamqiie Cartha-
' I "n*a Deo cr * ' tj
^ ' non quirt it iti
yJT' I &*t iinmol:. • _;i3j.
L.it Itanc nitiisam, n<ju in qua
Ml ()iifi 3iieri(i<uum Deo, cui et
.u.,.u.u."-&Vm, CCCX. al. 113 in
Atirelli,** and that the btubop desires the faitliful to a
blc Ihrtt dav nt the Qa^iUiefi of Fau-^tus*
iSemi, CXn. Do verbis KvangcUi Lucflc xix,, **Homo
fecit pojunm ituipnam/' utc.
Habit (ifi ia Basilica ItARtitnta,
6crm. CXI V. De verb. Ev, Lucw xvii*, ^* fii pecoarerU
IJI tc»" etc
IIrtt>itti» sd mensam S* Cypriani, pncsente comlte
Bntiifiiitio.
Serm, CXXXL al, 2 de verb, Apost
Habit u» ad toensam b^ Cypriani is. £al. Ooiobu ^
dip iJom".
Sprm. CL, de verbis Aot.*Apo9t. xvii.
Flabitan Carthaginc,
Berm. CLIL de verbis Apost. Hoin. viL et Yiii.
Habiium Curtbaginc cretUmoa.
8emi- CLIV, de verbiis Apost, Horn, vit
Habitufl ad m^nsara S. >f ' ' ■ ■ mi.
Scrm. CLV. al. vi. de verJ i m, viii.
Habitu.4 la Boeilica SS. litanomm.
Sprm. GLVI. «/. xiiL dc voiUt,> A}>uaL Horn, viii.
Utihliuti in Basilica Gratianj die imuili Mart", Boli^
tanorota.
Scrni. (^LXUL ah lit. de verb. Apoflt. GaL v.
ilabittia in Bci»lica Uonoriaoa viii. Kal. Oetob.
S<?rm. CLXIV. a/.xxiL dc verb. Apoat Gal. vi. Contm
Dunutiiluf:, fwulo [lost liObikun Carthngirie collation em
pronuntifituK.
Barnu CLX V, a/, vjj. dc verb. Apost. Epbea. iii.
Uabitui; ia Ha«ilica Mnjurum*
Serm, CLX IX. e/. xv. de v«rb, A past. Philip. uL
Ua bit II 8 ad mBnsani ii' Cypriani.
Serin. CLXXIV. al, viii. de verb. Apost. 1 Tim. i*
Habitus ill Bikiilicti Celerime, die Dominica.
B«mi. CCLV. De Alleluia. At some other phu:e Ihao
Hippo ; perbap'^ sti Cartha'j^e, anno 4 IK.
Berm. CCLVIH. lo diflbus ra^balibus.
In Ba^lica mnjore.
6«rm. CCLX. D« inonitie baptizatorunuj
In ecelesia L^onli/ma.
Berm. CCLXJ. In dir I^ Dom*»
HabituH riirthagriTi t Fuusti.
Serm. CCLXIL In u; ...
Habitu« in lta«tilica Lf^ontinna.
*krm. CCLXXVIL In festo S* Viaiccntii M.
In Basilica Hi'Stitnta.
Serm, CCXCIV. aL xiv, innatall roartytiB GuddcnlU^ '
5 Kal. Julii (anno 413. Fleury),
Serm, CCCV. in solomnitatc martyris lAnrentii IV.
Habit UR ad mens am 8. Cypnani.
Senn.CCCXVllJ. «/. 25. H^biluH in ipso die deposi-
tionis relii^niamm 8. Stcplmni jpad Hipponcm.
ScTtn. CCCLV. at. 49 da diviTsi'*, at Hip|Ki.
S«rin. CCCLVh a/. 60 ....... at Hippo.
8i*riii. CCCLVn: a/. 85. De kude paciv, ante collat.
cum PotiAtifti-}.
A pud Cartha^nnRin anno 411 eirdtcr 15 Mail.
Serrn. CCCLVltl. aL 36. De pace ct cliaritate,
ApiidCartbaif. eotlem tempore.
Sorm. CnCLlX. De lite et concord ia cum Donatiitla.
A pud Cariha^. Podt colUt. cum oia.
Sermona iritditi,
Berm. XVII. In j»otemnltate MacchabflDortnii.
Habitue Bull If lie;;ij'» roi^atu epi.'^eopi civitatis^
Serin. XV'lIl. liv ntitdi Qiiadrati MnrtrriB*
Preached not at Ilippo» but siimc place unknown,
5eni?rt/if* <?x Cndict CaMinetun*
Senn. V. Ad nitiii.'<;im R. Cvpriant M. Sexto idus Sep-
terobria, de Apoft. ad Galat. : " Fratres ai occiipatua
fuerit homo in aliquo delicto, etc."
A Wdtter Saytno (4>^ S. vL 495.) — Very
eimLlar to this snying in Nottinf^hamshire is one
which I hefird the other dny from a medical man
in West Kent: ** If before Christmas the Ic© will
bear a goose, after Christmas it will not bear a
duck/» n. p. D.
[Af a comment on the At>ove, we append an occasional
note from the Faif Mall Guznitt of December 23. — Ed.]
'* Some people flutter themaelvea that because the IVost
biifi set in this 3^ear before Christmas D«y, we ahull have
a mihl winter after it ; but thin theory b not in accord-
ance with past experience. Some of our most severe
fVosta have bcgon on the 21st of December. * In 1566/
aayi Holinshed, * the one-ainl-twciitieth i\ii\ of December
began a frost which continued so extremely that on New
Year's Even people went over and alouRst tlie Thames on
the ice from London Bridge to Westminster. Some
played at football so boldly as if it bad been on dr^^And.
Divers of the coast shot daily at the prick* set up on the
Thflnies* and the people, both men and women, went on
the Thames in ^cater numbers than in any iitreet of
Ix>ndon. On the 31st day of Januar>\ ot night, it began
to thaw, and five davs after was no ice to lie seen between
London Bridge and Lambeth, whif?h sudden thaw caused
great doods and high waters thnt bare down bridg:cs aiui
bonsea and drowned many people in England, espedaJly
in Yorkshire.* In 16S3 a har<l fro<st &et in early in De-
eembeft and lasted till the 7th of Ftbruary, On ih«
occasion, the Thames being frozen, there was a street
upon it ffom the Temple to Southwnrk^ Hned with shops,
and hackney coaches plied on the river. In 1762 a hard
fro0t commenced on Christmas Day and lasted till the
59 th of January, and carnages were af^aia seen on the
Thames ; and in the same j^ear the Rhine was frozen nt
Coblentz for nearly fonr weeks from the 2 1st of Decem-
ber. The great frost of the present century was the
famous one of 1814, which lasted severiil weeks and put
everybody to intense inoonvenicnce. To add to this dis-
comfort, London was wrapped in an extraordinary fog
for a week in the early part of January of that year,
which, among other mi?* for tunes, cau!»ed the Prince
Recent to lo«^e his way when goiiif*^ to pay a vi^it to Lord
Salisbury at Ilntfield* and not to get further than Ken-
tish Town."
RoBTTR Caroli C-i'** S. vL 47tl, ^^.)— "Cor
Caroli '* is not a conBtellation, but a double star
situated in the conatellatioQ Canea VenaticL
G. T,
Pear Tree f4*»* S. vl 476.)— The somewhat
rustic'looking tenement which stands on the right-
hand side of the main road leading to Nazing, cc.
Essex, has boroe from a remote period the appel-
lation of "Pear Tree Farm," To this tenement
or messuage (as I am informed) is appended about
forty acres of land. Thi^ farm has most probably
derived its name from a very old pear tree, the
remains of which are now standing on the green
opposite. But why the singular additional title
of the sacred name of **God Almighty*' is at-
tached to it is beyond my knowledge to state,
except that it might possibly have been con*
nected with the ancient monfustery of Waltham,
either in part or whole, and so have been deemed
sacred by the religious order of the Augustine
brotherhood which bluff King Hall diasoked in
the thirty-first year of his reign. The farm ia ii)
the hamlet of Ilolyiield, W. Wi>'TBRS.
Waltham Abbey.
Right to quartkr Arms (X^^ S. vi. 470.)— I
reply to W. M. H. C, I would repeat a solutiofl
of his dilEculty given in a former number
" N. & Q./' though I am unable to refer to i
exact page.
John Smith*8 eldest son dies #. p, ; his secon
son succeeds^ and leaves an only daughter ; tha
daughter is the heiress in blood to her grand's
father John Smith, and transmits bis arnid to he
descendants. As long as the line of A^v* descendant
remains, John Smith*8 daughters (her aunts) cid
have no right to transmit the Smith arms to theil
issue. Their niece is the heireM through whoq
the right must first descend, and whose hntd mus
be extinct before her aunts become co-heire^sep.
E. W.
Barof Nicnoiaojf (4^'* S. vi, 477.)^! quite
agree with your editorial note. As an autobio-
graphy' is in print, what more is wanted ? Some
account of his literary labours, however, would
not he out of place in " N. k Q." lie wrote and
publisbod in numbers Cockney Tales — very humoi
ous, and quite free from anythbg offensive. If
also published a novels Dombetf and Dauifhter
had nothing to do with Dickens*s atory ; the tit]
was a mere ad captandnm. He wrote also a nrett
little poem called "The Derbyshire Dalej*, * ani
some good imitations (not parodies) of Moore,
Eliza Cooke, &c, I remember reading in The
Times the advice of Mr. Commissioner Philli
after the delivery of the Baron's certificate — **
Nicholson, one word at parting : in future confij
your practice to your own court, and keep out
mine/^ Stepiten J.vcKSOIf.^
Epigram on the Walchiirrn Eipkhiti*
(!•* S. xi. 52 ; 4»^ S. v. 174, 497, G(H3 ; Ti. S4, 1
244.) — The controversy with regard to the oo)
rect version of this epigram is, I think, set
rest by the following extract from a letlar ai
dressed by Lord Palmerston to his sistt^r, tl
Hon, Miss Temple, dated Feb. 27, 1810. (
Henry Lytton Bulwer^s Life of ViscomU Pnlnti
»ton,lS70,l 117);—
" Did you see the following epigram the Other day
the ChtvmeU f if you did nut it is a pitv you aboul
miss it, and I send it to you j il is by Jekyli : —
* Lord Chatham with his aword undrawn,
Stood waiting for Sir Richard Strachan ;
Sir lUchard, eager to get at 'em^
Stood waiting— but for what ?— Lord Chatham I '
** It ia very good, I think, both in rhyme and point."
It will be observed that Lord Palmerstoa gtat'
positively that the epigram is by Jekyli,
n. P. Dj
ROBBRTDE CoMTTTjEaRLOF NoRTHtrM«KHI.AI
(4«'» S, vi. 457.)— S. will find some informatio
nd
I
4*s.vii. jAs.r.Ti.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
19
in Burke* 8 Eji met and Dormant Peernge^ ed* 1840^
p. ISu. The account therein pven would not place
mm in tho ^' firat rank '- amoug noble mea.
ILW.
Robert <Ie Comyn wns Duko of Northumberland
for the. spRce of only one year, 1068-9, and waa
fiJn^fj m Dtirham with most of bia followers,
[*' L'hter was mnde the fifth of the Calenda
c: V, anno 1070/* Millea' Cat, of Htmour,
p. 7U'J;. J See Sir IL Nicholas' Ilidoric Peerage
9f England, revised by W. Courtbope, Esq., 1857,
^ 3^^. B. C. E.
CrcuMBSR (4**' 8. Ti* 474.)— Cucumber from
gherkin is only a false extension of the joke, as
p thf? celebrated "pair of crocodiles '* anecdote
li: '/-. A, B,^ meeting 0, D,, detains bim
V . IX narrative of the capital pair of gaiters
It . 1 i 1 ked up in Change Alley* C. LX, to cut
Iht ci^i 1 r -hort/acetiouslysug-gesta that he should
ciul them his (nair of) aUigatorB, Whereupon
A B. tr ota off delighted, and meeting E. F. re-
^ ' t 'frd jokeof C» D/s about how the
that he had just purchased in
Ajit^v ought to be called a pair of croco-
^^^ ha ! 'ha I '' *; Well," said K F., - a pair of
ilea? I don*t SCO the joke," ''No more
w/' sjiidthe hapless A. B., " but it seemed
...J iiiimy when C. D. first said it! '* So, as a
j«ike mmj lose by repetition, a gherkin melaoior-
Xi\iif^A irtfo a cucumber becomes pointless,
Verd¥M Sap.
MK J ACKSOX mu?t excuse my saying that it is
h who has spoiled this ancient juke^ for to omit
the cucumber is to omit the point. V.'s mistake
b a mere putting the cart before the horse acci-
dtaitiilly. The anecdote used to be told as fol-
lows : — King w&s pooh-poohing some man's
«=K*ii,.]rigi€si with a "Nonsense ! you may as well
name is derived from cucumber/^ *' Well,
: . /' was the quick retort: *' Jeremiah King^ '
hrry King — jerking — gherkin — cucumber ! " i
Bmiebow 1 have always connected the story with {
• OQiUege dinner, but I really cannot say why. A
W pan on Jerry King and gherkin would not
kiTt* UtnI bo long. In codcIusiod, will some one
t»ll ui how it is that young cucumbers are called
Ifbtrkixi* ? I do not see the etymology myself.
P. P.
1 is not gherkin from Jeremiah
uber from Kins' Jeremiah* ' Thus
iiab, Jeremiah Kinsr^ Jerry King,
i.in, cucumber. R. S, Charnock.
Lmiung Lo?n a^f 5^ ▼1,476.)— Your corre-
•I -i assured that there is
T^ ! between Lo thing Land
"en. The latter (not-
i tion -ingen) u dmply a
corruption of Loikarintjin^ i. e. Lotharii Pei/tinm,
According to the Stat, Atv, Scot, the name Lo-
thian is said to be from loch, but it is more pro*
bably derived from htd^ /o</ = water. Poly u ore
Virgil informs us that Laudonia (t. e, Lothian) in
his time was an extensive district beginning at
the Tweed, and stretching considerably beyond
the city of Edinburgh. Lolhing Land (in Domes-
day Luditigahnd) anciently formed part of the
hundred of Ludinga, which waa afterwards called
the Half Hundred of Mutford. It mny have had
its name from Lake Lothinjj, from the same root
tis the name Lothian* Sackling (Surtblk) says of
Lothingland : *^ The Waveney wa«»hes it^ western
side, while Qui ton Broad and Lake Lot king form
its soulbern boimdnry, which uniting with the
Ocean near Lowestoft; insulate the district/'
11, S, CiiAasfocK.
Grny'* Ino,
P.S. Conf. the river names Lyd, Lud, Loddoa,
and local names commencing with Lud, Lod.
The name of Loth rin gen (Lorraine) has nothing
to do with the German word loth^ plummet, or
with tho accidental fact that the region which
bears the name ** adjoins Champagne, a level
country." Lothringen is Lotharingia. The pre-
sent Loth rin gen is a Bmall part of a region that
was named Lothftringia because it was assigned
to the Emperor Lothar (Lothaire in Gibbon's
Decline mid Fall) when, on the death of Lewis
the Fiona (Charlemagne's son), the empire wiis
divided among bis three sons — ^Lothar, Charles
(king of the West Franks), and Lewi a (king of
the East Franks), Jony HosKTWa-AaRAHALL.
Combe Vicaraj^e, nenr WtKjdstock.
** Ceetosino " (4*^ S. vi, 475.) — I never heard
or met with the word. But it may be a diminu-
tive of Certosa, the Italian word for a CartbuijiHa
convent. In the Certosa, near Florence (now
dissolved), various tradea were carried on. Tbero
wrts a laboratory, a distillery of Chartreuse and
peppermint-water, Sec, &c,, a shoemakers* shop,
a tailors* ditto, kc. As a carpenters* workshop
was on the premises^ the inlaying of ivory and
ornamental wood (a common occupation in Italy)
may have formed a nart of the conventual in-
dustry; and sLicb work, as well as other bibour,
may have been called ccr/osino work, or in Italian
lavoro certosino. There does not seem to mo any
mystery about the term,
James HEiffRT Diiox.
Ancient Scottish Deed (4^'' S. vi, 453.) — The
deed given by J. M. ia doubtless interestmg, but
I have one in pbotozincograph lyiog before me,
earlier by one hiindred and twenty*one year», and
deserving of notice in your columns, as believed
to be the earliest document in the yernacular
extant. It ia an award of an anceatot of x\\va^,
Andrew Mercer, Lord of MeVkWuij m «^ vil^^vkX^
*
*
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[4»» S. Vlt. Jas. \
between Robert Stewart, Eurl of Fife and Men-
teitb^ und Jobn I^ogie, son and heir of Sir John
T ' ' ■ i 'ht^ rtlalivc to tbe binds of Logie and
^ y in Perthsbire. It was given in \iYc-
fiLi.»-c_ -L li^iu^ Itobert IL and bis son Job d, Karl
of Carrick^ and is datwd May 15» 1385.
The originnl is in tbe charter chest of Sir Wll-
liAta R Stewart, Bart., of Murthly, and a copy
WAS published in tbe JE^mhurgh Ei'mting CotfTitik
of March IG last by a correspondent who digued
Limself J. A. R,j and termed it "the oldest
"writing yet discovered in the Scotch lanjruage."
I nndorstaad that the fac-simile of which I am
possenaed ia to be foand in tbe Red Book of
lirantnlly, W. T. M.
ROTAL TTPOQRApnr (4^'* 6. vi, 209, 44^1)— -It
ia woU known that aomewhere between the yeftrs
1840 and 1860 Her Miij*^aty and Prince Albert
occasionally emploj-'ed theuiaelvea by etching up-on
copper. Tbey retH3ived practical instruction in the
art from Mr. Ha>^er, afterwarda Sir George
Hayter, who attended every morniog at Windsor
Castle fur the purp(>se. If a private copper-plate
press woa made use of for striking off impreseions
of the plates produced, it would be at Windsor
Castle, and not at Buokingbam Palace, as stated
b}* IL F. P.; but there ia eome doubt as to tbe
existence of such a thing, and certain it is that
Mn John Burg^e^ Brown, a bookseller and copper-
plate printer of Windeor, was regrnlarly employed
0T tbe royal artists to produce impreasions of the
plates as they were etched. As tiecrecy woa de-
eiredj he was careftil to stie that the earae quantity
of proof paper which he bad given to bis work-
man wa3 received back in tbe shape of impressions.
It seeniB, however, that the latter, perhaps with-
out ultt^rior objwct, struck ofl' a waste or trial
proof or two ot each on cni'd or ordinary paper.
These be pasted, as curiositi&s^ in a sort of album,
to tbe number of sixty- three, and in this state
tbey were seen by a Mr. Jasper Tomsett Jud^re, of
Windsor. This person managed, after some hag-
gling, to purchase the lot for tbe sum of five
pounds, and having cleaned and mounted them,
propost^d to recoup biraaelf by their exhibition
nod by tbe sale of an analytical list, under the
title of A Ihscriptive Cfiiahtfue of the Hot/of Vic-
iorm and Albert Gallenj nf mchwtjK, At*tbis the
royal artists werti greatly annoyed, and gave in-
structioufl to their solicitor tu tile a bill ia Chancery
against Strange, the publisher of the catalogue,
on the ground that the etchings referred to bad
been wrongfully obtained.
The subsequent prooeedings— which oeri-ainly
appear to have been harshly oppressive against
the ofTending parties— with a list of the etchings,
nod a large amount of curious matter, are minately
set forth in a publication entitled —
•; Th« * Koyiil Etchtngr«/ A 6t«ti!iiicnt of Facta re-
iatiiig to tii«3 Origin, Object, and Prfl^rrera of the Pjo-
t
Prifi
to th. '___._.: _ _.,._^. ,.^. „_-,--, ,._,.„.
JiliJ{;c Hvi), London, W. StrODge, Juu, (ttii^} pp.
Price Half-n-Crown,
WlLUAll BaTM"
Bimuji^am.
Paulet of AiiP<mT (4** S. vi. G.)^The brotbets
of Ck^orge twelfth Marquis of Wiucbester
** 1. Norton Paulct, M.P. for Wincheater, married,
diod *. fj 175t)."
2. Henry P., cap t. to the Arm r ' ' ^ - i 1745
5. John P , in the Army, ditid naiiv,
4. Charles P., capt. R.JC-, died I
6. William P,, in the Navy, died uum^ifi^ 1
C, Herbert P.^ cant, ia the Acmv, died unmai
1746. ^
7. Francis P., died a miaor at Cambridge 1742.**^ — .
brttfM Pteruffty 1825.
CHABLB8 Rr88EL£.
Gamp, Aldersfaot.
'^ There was a Littlk "SLxs " (4"» S. vi. 51^
Me. Jackson is careless hb to tbe measure of tli
old nursery rhyme. Ill^ last lin« would ueit
read nor smg in time. It ought to be —
•* And shot him through the head.*'
The first and second verses are cans tan tlv fiim-i
the nursery; but there is a third vei
Percy Society ^e Tracts) which ia not h.
known. There is in the same collection nnoth
short ballad, which goes to the same measure -
** There was a little man, iLnd ho wooed a ULtie maidY*^
where the little maid, with a most bouse wifi
prudence, desires to loiow bis meflna of au
in marriage, and asks^ —
** Will I he love tliJit yoa*ro so rich in
Mnko B lire to the kitchco,
Or the litUa God of Loir« laro the spit F ''
The Swan-Sojtg or Pabson Avert (4^ S.
4B^) — There is a remarkable ooincidence ia 1
narrative, which I mention with a dewre to elu
some fuller information, tending to identify Pa
son Avery as an emigrant from England, aiid^
settler in North Carolina — probably the
of a congregation composed ot Presbyter
grating from Newbury in I^n-kshire, **^ on© j
thousands of families who, iu lt^35, retired (
EogUind,'' and possibly founders of Newl
(Newberie ?) in the above-named state.
The Avery family were connected with __
clothing trade in Newbury, Berks, at 1^1^*1 'l-^t
They were Presbyterians, and the nar:
been extinct for a few years. Lalterlv
Blackwall flail factors in Cat»'aton Street,
a branch settled at Marlbro in Wilts. Dr, Avef
the second treasurer of Guy*s Hospital, was
lated to tbe Averys of Newbury. They utcd 1
arms confirmed by Cooke to Wm. Averj* of F
ingby, co. Warwick — vi%. ermine on a pule
gtailed asurei three boos' beads couped or.
4«»8.TII. jA3r.7,7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
21
if
It it rery evideDt that the poem relates to
•notlter Xcwbury than the Englisb town. It stiits
'iPiU with the town of that Dftme in North Caro-
Unt ; Ami pf>»^ibly sorae reader of " N. & Q,^' oti
thit shore of the A tin n tic may be able to furnish
linl »7-wlHi,,no ^, rjiitirm the existence of rocks
i to identify Parson Avery aa
•=t from Newbury, Berks, who
nt after the home they
.^ ions and civil freedom.
E.W.
The poem referred to is one of Wliittier*8, pnb-
Ikhed in hia volume entitled Rome Ballath.
A. E.
Ibish FORFBITX7BE3 (4*^ S. vi, 546.) — The
or hook referred to by the Ahb^ MacGeo-
R^flgm aa accompaoyiDg the R^jport on Irish For-
'ettTir^.fi m 1700, mliat be, I conclude, that rare
>~^»]iuae —
**A Lift ''*" ♦'^» '"^iims it tti*".* "*" "n*'^t| iHtb the
TrT]*>r'i* n Ilf]U5« oti i n, Dublin,
*-'t\. yrl>?fur. ill of j\uj:ru>t, . i. " Uuljlin,
pe-iDlfi \\f Ja-tjiii Kay, n!i<l are Lu be aulJ by Patjick
C^AmpbeiJ, fiodUdler, in Skinner Row, 1701."
The cony which belonged to William Luttrell
*« in my Insh library. E. Ph. Sjiiklei'.
pATcnijr (4"» S. vi. 240, ,31)0, Am.) — Pannm,
t^li£ Lnlin equiTalent of patch, is used by PUny of
^* ♦ - t liat ^Tows on the tree ^l^^lopa be-
€ii^ ^.sr (PL 16. 8, 1:3, § 85.) May not,
^ the "legend *^ We've got another
3, J at *ome aa this one Vre aia*t ev^en so
1- > ^fff cA «;tww '* (** N, & Q," p. 300) raenn
I ' 'ere '* is no more to be compared with
^ • Lap at 'ome," Uian is the para^te
1 iy with the acorns? Or may not a
';ition be found in the practice of
!-ed garments? The pnfch Bhonld
,. t« ;n^ uioy be to the matenal to be patvlwtL
11 ucf, when one person is very much nnlilin
'— he may properly be said to be "no
r him/' EDsnrND Tew^ M. A-
IiTE RocirBgTER HoapiTAL (4"" S. vi. 502.) —
The wcrfd •* proctor'* in connection with Watts'a
is now understood to mean a pTivileged
It 19 used in this aen«e in the statutKiS of
dw, VI. and Elirabeth, For an admirable ftc-
tmmt of the use of the word which ao bothered
KfiDf' ' ' uiries of the last century see a paper
\n y rn Brenchley Rye in Archa^ohi/ia
(Wm- If, Ti. o2, 58. Geobge Bedo.
Rnar.^' Jlmis r4*'^ S. vL 476.) — These are m-
Reatea^oHy or Gefiilen\tm'ii
,, in the part about bell-
i in £Ilaeombe*» Biflfritt ondRm^m's
•^ t»»votidir, nor ht the boll* be ntnde thy lullaby, ^
diQrwn «>cii« dli'illaftffiriimi ttid ao make Uiee icpur to
laoi^tiil
ibe lielfwe (like the narBO to bw wbi»t1e-beM<i) lo quiet
thy dijiinH>ed mind ; and thn« (n» the diviae jMMt excel-
lently exiiresitfl it) to silence it with —
' Look, look, what's here I A dainty golden thing ?
See how the dancing bella turn round, aod ring
To please no J banthng,' " <tc.
Can any one tell U3 who the " divino poet" is ?
Mr. Ellflcombo does not know. In my copy of
the School of Becreatim (1606) the above doea
not occur. J, T. F.
North Kclfley, Brigg.
Addison makea mention of baby ^8 corala in
No, 1, of the Spertator^ where, drawing a fanciful
portrait of himself, he says : —
*'The gravity of my behaviour at my very first iip-
pcarance in thv world seenved to favour my niotber'a
dream ; for, m she has often fold mp, I threw away luy
rattle when I wai two months old, and would not make
use of my coral lUl Xhty bad taken the bella from it,"
The Spectator appeared in 1711, and its autlior
wa§ brought into the world with the gravity and
Bolemnity in the text recorded in 10/2; so this
tfdces us bnck two hundred years in the hiatory of
the coral and bells. ' Jin-IAN Sjiarm an*
EcsTATics (4*^ S, vL 475.) — Last year there
was publiahed a very able and interesting work
descriptive of the town and vicinity of Gheel, the
Bedlam of Belgium. The title of the book is
Oheel^ the City of the Simple , by the author of
FUmiiih Inicytortif Cbflpmao and fltiU, 18(51). It ie
dedicated to that distinguished philftnthropist and
Belgian savant, the lat« Dr. Ducpetiaux. Perhaps
thia might be of service to your inquirer.
Ebmuttd Jor,
S.vMPiiEiia (4^** 3. vi. COO.) — Preauroiug that
M, B. does not desire to con fine the ispecimens of
sampler poety for which he asks to such as are
obtainable in the dwellings of the humbler classes,
I send some lines worked on a sampler by one of
my aunts at the age of nine :■ —
*' JesuB, permit thy graciaiia name to stand
As the lirst work of Arabella's hand I
And while her fingers on the canvas moviB,
Engoge her ttoder thoughts to seek thy lovp*
With thy dear children may Mie have a part^
And forai thy Imagu on her youthful heart.
** MAltY AnABKlJ*A PKAnsoJc.
•♦July llt^ 1801."
I shall be glad to know if any of your corre-
ppondenta have met with tlicse lines elsewhere,
as my aunt, who was talten to her rest jui^t nine
years later, was from an early jige accustomed to
versify in the atyle of the above. J. A. Px.
The Bor-Bisnop of the Propaoaxpa for
Chbistmas (4'*' 8. vl 491.)— As Mr. MacCabb
has recently furnished two notes upon Christmaa
Customs and Boy-Bishnpp, I write to say that the
custom exists even in our time at the Propaganda
College of Rome of choosiuj? on Christmas Eve
(by ballot) a boj-bii^op. t\i«> "^m^i^\^^ Sa «a^
i
I
I
I
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[1»»«S.V1L JA3f.7^7lJ
to have been stipulated for in tKo originftl grant |
of monej at lb 6 found atioD of thi^ iDMitutiuiii t
to perpetuate the Middle Ages* custom in tbis
feimtiary at tlie Chriatinas time. The liappy boy-
bishop's attendants are a deacon and subdeacon,
fielected bj bis lordship ffenerally from the Italian
portion of the community. His episcopal func-
tions cease the day after the Epiphany,
I will be very thankful for your insertion of
this note^ as all Chnstmas usages are of much
interest to your readers. David Flym.
Due or Doue (4^" a \l 500.)— The usual
meaning of dur^ dour^ dor, found in geographical
names, is water^ from the Welsh dtcr (dtcfr)^
Cornish dower^ doury douar^ Ihotir ; Arnioric dvtfVj
doitar ; Gaelic dohhar^ dumhar^ dur ; Irish dw\
Fiondour {Jxi/nn-dur) is = "white or fair water ;
and Durdoman may mean deep water (dur-dmn-
hnni}). Wat! hter says thnt dur in some Con-
tinentiil names is ^ trajectus fLuminis : hence
Eojodurum, " Irajectua Bojonim in Norico*';
Batavoduruni, trajectus Batavoruoi in Belgio;
Duren, 1) urate do, llurocassium (DreiLv), &c. The
Dame Leadu h not derived from this root, aud
the only etymological part of the word is l—d.
K. S. CHAHNocr.
Gray*s Inn.
Dur = water in British. George BEno.
Ihvr is British, perhaps European, for water
D^vrwent, I believe, though I am not certain,
meaning running-water, a riven This may be
found in JJvncetU'Waier^ a not un common form of
adding a current word with the same meaning to
fiji enriier one. Dwr is found also in Dwrby^
Perby, a place by water, the river being the Der-
went, pronounced **BaiTand,'' and assuming in
the dialect of the neighbouring counties the
harder torm of ** Trent." "There is a Herefordshire
river Dour, and I have no doubt but the word
Douro has the same origin, J, Place.
The Paris Catacombs (4**» S. vi. 3C0, 407-)—
Your correspondent H. H. seems to have fallen
into the common mistake of confounding the CaUt-
cvmhes of Paris with the Carneres. The fact is
the CatncombestoTm but a comparatively small por-
tion of tbe va.st aublerranean maze which extends
under the southern quarters of Paris, and from
which wa.g quarried Uie atone for the building of
old Lutetia. In 1785 a certain part of these ex-
cavations was separated from the remainder by a
thick wall, and was othorwbe prepared for the
reception of the bones to be taken from the c-eme-
tery of the Innocents. In the year following the
place was consecrated by the clergy under the
name of the Cataeomhes^ and from that date to
181 i numerous consignments of human remains
removed from the various intramural church-
yards have been made to those gloomy bias,
where the skuHa are stacked up very much after
the manner of old port wine* Of this o^w«iir«, i
it is termed J I possess a very exact pliui, includiii
a considerable portion of the adjacent passage
made ** fious la direction des ingdnieiira des niineal
in 1657 ; and a few years previously I saw at th
olfice of the director a plan in the course of exa
cution on a large scale of the whole of the Car
ner&t. An accurate guide to these excavations [
indeed absolutely necessary^ as men are eonstanl^
employed in making good with masonry the oil
supports, which from time to time give way unda
the weight iuiposed upon them. Formerljr
CatacombeJi formed one of the regular lions of th
city, but for a long period access to them on i "
part of visitors has been strictly prohihited* Tb
usual approach is by a stair in a courtyard adjoin
ing the Barriere d'Enfer, but there are not leg
than fifty entrances in alL tt. II. D. .
Fert, oh F. e, r. t. (3"* S, pamm : A^^ S,
461.) — The opinion of llttonuCAXAjas, that the
letters originally formed one word, aud bore
natural and not a sort of anagram ma tic meanin
seems to be perfectly well founded, lUs etati
ment of the use of the word iji the arms of Sav<3[
before the date of the defence of Khodes is con
elusive on that point What, then, was the meanin
of the woi'd ? Mere ia a suggestion which natural'
piesents itself to the mind. The princes of the hou
of Savoy set up, from a very early period, to 1
very pious. Amadeits was a favourite name will
them. A cross was their cognisance. The mo
fitting word to apply to it would be FeH in til
proper and popular sense of the verb "He bear^
mdicating ttat lie, of whom the Cross waa tue^
typical emblem, bore the eina of the world. A
clever and insinuating courtier might afttTwa
discover that the letters of the word could he i
plied as a flattering eulogium to the Defender
Khodes, and the discovery once made and pub
lishcd would be readily adopted by a delight
prince and a loyal people. But it is a curio'Q
fact that the v^rj- prince to whom this sort
flattery was applied^ and to whose martial
Ian try writers of a subsequent date (Sausoyind
Delta Onffim de Cavalien\ \^enice, 158H^ ascribe
the origin of the word itself as a heraldic dlstiad
tion, took for his own device a running strea
with the motto ** Virea acquirit eundo '* (B^t
linij Compmdi'o deUa Storia della Ileuh Casa
Sacoia), "
Babders* FoRPEiia (4^'' S. iii. 204.)— Twen
five years ago no allusion to a rainr as a wea[
or as a sulci diil instrument wns permitted, und4
a fine of a gallon of beer, in any of the Dortfo;
barbers' shops. In the celebrated breweries
the same town the wonl imUr is tabooed unde
heavy fine i the article when alluded to mufti
styled tiquot, A» J» BuNJtl
44, D«Sdbe;ough Gardens, South BdgrsvU.
i«h S.yiL J or* 7.710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
23
TiTE SoNo "DoraxA8'* (4*'* S. vu rm.)—Thh
wmg litts nl»o been get to music by Clara Bell (not
*' Claribel *'), and was publisbed six or more yeara
ance. I bave vainly endeavoured to Rnd by
whom. Can ony reader assist me ? I bave it in
oamiacript, and moat of my friends prefer it to
Lidy Scott's rendering:. In each case tbo word a
are somewhat altered from the originnl as pub-
lished at p. 292 of "PiWTAw, by the author of John
Esdifai^'* where it is headed ** Too late/' followed
1>y tne line
** DowglaA, DowgWt tendir and treu."
James BRixTEif.
Old CuKiSTKls Carol (4«»' S. vl 50<3.)— Me.
fxTSi 19 evidently not aware that the Latin
soiQg^, of which he givca only tbe 6r^t three verseB,
t^nd entire in ** N. & y/* (4*»* S. il />57)» It
mi «ent by me, apropos of an old Lntin poem of
ft somewhat similar kind sent bv Mr, Hazlitt
(i"* S. ii. IVJO), Afl the first three versea dtflcr
eooaiderably in my copy from those sent by Mb.
PiTyn, it ia more than probable that the huc-
oeeding verses are na much at variance in our
respective copies. I will here repeat merely the
fint tbree as I have always heard them : —
•• Die mihi, quid jit unus ?
Uniu est veros Deus, qQi^regnat in coeli«.
• Die Tnihi» (\uU\ fdnt dno ?
Doir UbtlliQ Moy»is :
Utms est veru^ Ueus, qiu r^gnat in ctelix.
•* Pi** tniM, qtiid sint trcB ?
Ti' '■' ■ '-hK*
I> Tovsit:
-, as f>ett», qui rcgnat in ccdIjs."
Br is referred for the nine succeeding
, _ " N. & Q." at the above reference.
T am no Sanscrit iciiolar, and know nothing of
lodiin literature. But I have seen a Hebrew
imty Of aong of similar construction, though not
Oii saered subject^ but more resembling" our well-
bown ** House that Jack built." Indeed these
toass, made to be repeated backwards at the end of [
Mui Terse, seem to have been favourite composi-
lioiia in «U age« and countries. Tbe Hebrew song
tma op<jn a kid, and U pretty evidently the
wjginal model of our ** House that Jack built.**
liawit in private posisession; but a translation
tt^ven in ilalliweirs Nurgery Rhfjmes, together
tith some others of a similar character, including
thf famouij story of the " Old Woman and her
Rg/* This Inar/however, is not well ^ven. The
dit^ aa I alwayi heard it in childhood ia far
^tter, but I fear hardly worth insertion in the
(igM of ^'N. & QV* though I should willinj?!y
lenditjifdeaired. I\ C. IL
X. K HATit 8 <'Hi8T0Rr oy Music" (4*^ S.
n.03.)— It neems that Haym's History of Mu*ic
tit originallr written in* Italian^ and m \1'I<\
pB^pQMb weie made for publishing the work in
ilULi
Englhh, It is exceedingly doubtful if any MS,
of the English tran*lfttion ever existed. Chal-
mers tells us Haym died in March 17:W, and that
his effects were sold by public auction shortly
after that event. If ao, an inspection of the
auction catalogue might throw some light upon
the subject. An impression of the portraits of.
Tallis and Byrd in one plate, engraved for Haym'a
work, is in my possession. It is probably unique,
and much valued by Ebward F. UrMBAULT.
Irish Car and Noddy (4*" S, vi. 545.)"If
Mr. Llotd consul t9 ^' N. & Q.'* 3'** S. vi. 115, 110,
he will tind| I think^ all the information he re-
q[uirea, I sent tbe particulars in reply to a similar
inquiry from A, T, L, Abhma.
"The Bitter Ej^d " (i^ S. vi, 840, 427, 510.)
I did not mean that tbia phrase was ungramma'
tical or nonsensical, but that it was silly in the
connexion in which it seems always to be used
with us. It ia always said of a war^ or of some-
thing of which the whole course is bitter or evil
as wt'll as the end ; indeed the end of a war or
the like is surely leM bitter than the rest of it;
whereas the whole point of the passage in tho
Proverbs is the eonirad between tne ways of the
woman and the end of them. LrriELXOK.
I venture to submit tbe following explanation
of this phrase : A war carried on to *' the bitter
end" ia a war carried on '* to the death.** The
interchangeableness uf the terms arises thus : The
Jews have a legend (TalmudtCi I have no doubt)
to the effect that immedititoly before dissolution
an angel coniea to the bedside of a dying man and
drops upon his Jtongue one drop of an irtensely
bitter liq^uid^ which deprives him of the faculty
of speech ; a second dmp takes away his sight ;
and a third terminates his existence. (It is many
years since I read the legend, and I am writing
from memory, but this repetition is "substantially
accurattn) H'Mice the phmses *^ the bitterness of
death is past," '^ there be some standing here who
shall not taste of death/* and otheni, which will
readilv occur to the reader. J. L. Cherht.
Ilanley,
Lord BrRox^s ** Enolisii Bards," etc. (4*** S.
vi. :30S, 44t), 4S0.)— The late Lord Dundrcnnau
obtained from Lords Brougham and JettVev a
holograph note from each, containing a li?il of
their nrtickv't in the Edmhurgh Mevietf\ These ho
collected and Ijound up a« part of their works.
The article on Byron was in Jeffrey *8 list, and not
in Brougham*9. These volumes were sold at a
very high price at the sale of the library of Lord
Dundrennan. J. S.
A friendly word or two with J. IL Bixox,
Montgomery's JFanderer of »Sivtyzcritmd could
hardly be called '* a juvenile effort/' at* the author
was thirty-live yeara old when he wrote it* Nor
:notes a:nd quebies.
l^^ S, Vn, Jan. 7, 71
WfkB it ever 6o considered by B,nj cIass of readet^
either in England or in America, where it has
\t>w Hiiii *^ fvsiit' tliroiigrh a score of editions*
r^hip of the review in the
i ^ . .. ory never entertained the leMt
doubt.
If Lord Bjron applied the epithet *' rayiDg " to
Montgomery, no term could have been less
appropriate, Montgomery himself published in
1824 two volnmes of Prose by a Foef ; but the
work had too little of the sensational fityle, and
too much of n pious tone^ to become popular^ and
liaB never, I believe, been reprinted.
The Church and the Warming-pan waa a youtb-
fuV je\i tl esprit J but it was never " famoua,'* nor
did it deaerve to be ao on any account : it was» as
Dr. Dixo:^ eays, " considered ns mere fun." The
author was not ** prosecutetl auid convicted" for
publishing it; but, on two occasions, for libeU of
a very ditieront character. It was reprinted as a
eptteful aunoyanoe to the poet by some unptia-
cipled townsmaOi who haa **■ his labour for bia
paing-*; for it may be doubted whether Moat>-
gomery ever became aware of the existence of the
leprint. J. H.
« Teat Mxy'« Father," btc. (4'^ S. yi. 232^
2BH, 48H,) — It aeema to me that my critic, Mr,
WiLLLAlf Batrs, 18 the one who is wronpf in this
matter. Admittin;?, as I am required to do, " that
the son of 3'oiir father*^ son may be your nephew/'
1 fail utterly to aee what beariDg* the admisflion
bas upon the orig:inal query, which was —
"Two men irere wnlking idong a portrAit-pfallt^^ :
one oWrved to the otbfir, poiottog to u portrait, * That
man's I'ttther woa my father's only son.* What relacit>n
is the portrait to the speaker? "
That Mn. Batbs bastened to put me rijbt
without much attention to the question is evidt-nt
fi*Qm hia introducing a line which is rendered
unnecessary by the words ** only eon ■ ' in tho
above. The query itself is slight enough, and no
'* superhuman eflbrt of wiadoui*' was cliiimed for
its Bolution. Aa it was thought worth putting as
a question, I suppose it was intended to elicit a
reply; but trifles become of some importance when
correapondeata like Mr. Bates impugn tlie cor*
rectness of the answer given. Charles Wtxie.
Bb BoHm^ (4^»» S. vi. .501.)— How Sir Henry
de Bobun was Alain by the Bruco at Bannockburn
is well Icnown; but'it is probably not so well
known that tho old poem of *' William of Palerne **
■was written for Sir Humphrey de Bobun,, nephew
to King Edward H. Sir Frederic Madden gives
several interesting; and useful particulars about
the family in his scarce edition, which (bv his
permisaion) I have reprinted. (See IViiUam of
Palernef ed. Skeat (Early English Text Society,
extra series), 18U7 j preface, pp. x. and xi.
Walter W. Skeat.
1} Cintm Terrace, Combridge^
It may perhaps be of some asaistance to A. F.
to know that about nine mile^ from De^djsoa *
^
small hamlet called Mannlngford Bohun«
A.B,T,
"The Da>I9h Bor'e Sowg " (4*'' S. ri, 601*)
** Among the remote monatiilnA of the K.W. p«ai|i]d
Rtill fancy they bear on the evening- brwxe i«ne» •#v"'
of strings played tijion, «nd meLinehoIv layt lu a (oroig
tongue. It is *Ttie Daniah Boy*' who Mdly &tagfi \
old bardic lays over tbe barrows of his once ini
furefatbers/'— \Voraafle*s Dana and Nonpryiam in .
iand^ p. 00,
W.l
SttBtLfiY's "D-fiMOW OF TILE WoRt.n" (4*
V. 534 ; vi. 150.) — I have only lately aecn tbe^
remarks by C, 13. L. and Mr. J. E. IIod«ki *
perhapa some other correspondent hai* alrcad
furnit^hed the requisite explanation^ but of tbL» ]
am not aware.
The ditficuUy raised by C. D. L. ia briefly i
That Shelley, after be had in 1813 iasued Q
Mah aa a printed bi>ok, spoke of it in 181G (wha
he publijibed the reviaad and abridgped veraion
it termed The Dttmmi of the irorla) as *^ a poem
which the author doe^ not intend for publicatio
It would seem that C. D. L. has not retlect^
upon the difference between a boo' ' 'and
book pMislted. Qtuen Mab v ^
Shelley in 1813, but was not pul.n.-uMi uv hi
either then or at any later date. This foct^ I n|
prebend, removes ever)* dilHcuity. The matter]
yet forth more in detail in the notes to my rece
re-edition of Shelley, vol. i. pp. 464, 473.
5C, EuMon Sqaare, N.W
Old PAurrTKci : CimrsT's Portrait (4*^ 8,
23l» 449.)— These portraits of Our L'>-! <•- -■
Byzantine original, are not vmcommon :
has met with seven or eight. 1 have L
flight sketch of one he varnished for Colniitzhi
Feb, 184o. A profile face turned to tL»* 1 Tl
the spectator; hair long and peaky 1
face of the Jewish t^-pe, much exaggera \
grotesque ; painted in an oval on a ^ui^re paQ
small folio size, with the inscription — *' This ]
tbe liguerof our Lorde and Saviour Iheaus, th|
waa sente by the greate Turcke to pope Innocen
the VIU. to redeme his brother that was th4
taken pri^joner," At Spooner's, 370 Strand,
be obtained a shilling- photograph of a head
Christ with a somewhat similsr inscriptinn ; if
face hiw more of the Italian type, and i "
taken from a print. Alberi J
Court of ChaaQei^%
CniTBCHKs wiTnm Rohat? Camps (3** R
vi., vii., viii., i.v., X., jPrtWm.) — A qni '
asked in " N, Si Q.'* some lime b^o abcn
enclosed in Roman camps* I am i
borne just now, and I cannot ibr
tbe neceaaary reference to the swi^ i i [ ig«
NOTES AND QUERIES.
isd othevs giiTe ifmt&ncBs of cburcbe» eo flilu-
kUd. Let me add to it the cliurch of Ta«burgh
(Ad Taum), Norfolk, C, W, Bjjikley.
BffnKRTFTR ^4** 8. vi. 8.) — The df^acription of
'R " " ;it, in the Harleian MS,, is incor-
Surrey. A, J,Dv^kis.
Sbssrvout (4*^* 8. tL 502.) — I hnve uevefT
iMDiidt pliwl} htit hare heard it described bj a per^
(Qiliimljiu' with it. aa having many narrow leavds
TT^^ ■■* - - ^Udkf growiiig^ about four iDches long,
I far. It is commonly foimd on banks
[ ro, and is otiierwifie called rvpsy
ts frequent Ui?e by gypsien. From
«i n, who had been n cixtk, I learned
I I > used by the Fmneh in salads.
1 jptioii JdR. BmrrEN will pro-
bthir discover the botanical name,
R C. H. (MurithianO
''The Dbvix beats hto Wife " (4*^ 9. ti. 273,
^.) — Mu. CtTTHBEETBEBE hfts got hold of onlj
tb first half of this SAying. The complete phrase,
9U I have always heard it and used it, is : ** Le
djable bat sa femme et marie aa fille.^' I have
«ked iKrtne French relatives now staying: with me
*bnfut it. Tbey hmre always heard it m I have
wfittcn it K E, Stjlsjst,
II0TE9 OH BOOKS* ETC.
Thi Sf*»ry of Sir Richard UltUtinafon^ Lord J fay of oj
UmLfU in th* T&ar$ 1397, HOG-T, and 14 19 A.i>.
od frk-ml Mr. K'iirluloy liiLa abown
ti if Ibc story of ** VVtuUin/^ton and his
nu irluiui to be con.'^idcrcd e:tclu«ivdy Engliflb,
in hm litile qn«Jti»n that tliis BurRhir Eptw, a»
' ■ ' . -: .---■ -- :* - -^ ' ^.-,1 to
of
' -ter
//LiLtiiigton and Lui Cat"
f»ot be roi.><tintlcr8tood or
• bai^ Whittin^^ton wai a
i?^btcncd t» attested not
i- anJ hia Ijcnefuctiooa to
recent! V hy Canon Lyaonn*
.del Merchant of the Middle
'lat romantic portion of hi"? siory which
in life with his worhl- renowned Cat*
r of Whittington, ami the whole spirit
> wu have «aid es^nlinlly Engliah* Mr.
'fl judgment in ndcctin^ it as a emb-
"• ' -""v'K The ilJustTRtions which
II?, vtTT charactpristic aod
1*08 shown he is a diligent
IS whii:ii he has takrn to mcxive ac-
unie«, and in tho viirious a<;cQS«ori(»
vMd^L^f .."- .,,^, .4uced. The book is altogether a very
badiOWW OfM>| tod eertatulr the moat chiborate literary
illlfllitle reoDttiDent which has yet been erected to the
"Sir Richard Whittin^toTi.
Thrice Lord Mayor of London Town,**
nf Lntulon, aiiil ;
bijfetrious ^*i=^T* ** Tho Mo
Tht Library Dirtiftmtry ^ the Englhh Lnnyuape, Ety^
molofficai^ Drtirtttivt:^ JSjrpltintMiTrtf, Pnmouncimf, and
SyfinMynmuM, Fmmded on the fahonrif of Jf*hnnon^
Walker, V^ ' '^Wcnter, ami oth shed
Z^rieoffriii umrroua impftrkt rmd
an Apptnn ">.p Vocabuhry of 1 ^ ■■■■^nts,
Clmtary of SvoUtMh }FordM, Cia»»ic Mythuittgy^ Prt~
JLtes afui AffixtM, Ahbrwiatlont^ Arbitrary Siyn$^ §t.
JltttttraUd by Ont Thoutamd Knyravinys on W(H*d,
(Collina.)
Th* Students Atliu^ contiHing of Tkirty-iwa Mapt *>/
Modern Gettffraphy^ embraciny Ml the Latent iJiscoveries
and Vhan^tt vf Bouwiary; and Si^ Mupa of Ancient
and liititorirai Ctoyrapky. CmatrucUd and enymced
by John Bartholomew, F.it.G.S. fVith a copiom 'index,
(CoUuia.)
We have copied the (jabcrato title-pagtw of these two
new eontributiotis to Edacational LiU'rature at lenp:th,
that oar readers niii^bt judge for themselves of Ihmr
clainis to iitipport. We can speak m to the excellent
maimer in which they are got up, and, as far as we have
been able to test them, there seeinsi u? hare been every
care taken in their preparailoa to secure accuracy and
completeness.
7^e Life and Death of Mother Shtpton ; being not only a
true Account of her xtranye Btrth^ the mnnt important
Paswayes of httr Life,, and oImo all her Propheciest f*eit*fy
roUected, |tr, 1 687. (Pcarso n . )
Those who take an interest in the Prophecies of Mother
Shipton, or in the correfipondence ou tbii$ subject which
has taken place in these eolnmns may t>e gla<1 to know of
this cheap reprint of the 168r Edition of her Life.
77ie Pirate, by Sir Walter Scott^ Bart (A. A €.
Black,)
We must content oumlvea on this occasion with ro-
eording" the appearance of this the ThirteetUh Volume of
" The Cvnteoariau Edition of the Wareriey Novels."
Dkath of thk Rev. Caj^qts IlARcouttT,^ — We little
thought when we inserted in **N. Jt (X" of Saturday last
fome observations on lonj^evity from the pen of this
much-respected gentleman, thnf h<* hsd be^n called to bia
rest. The Von. Chariei G* ' " i Ildreinirt, ivho
woaCannn of Carliiile and K lAniry^Umm^tmk^ j
r died on December 10, aged sc jytPtihi^iiwinliShdf
EstGLisir Pjio?exJscJATio!t or Latijj. — The Head
masters of various schoola have lately held a meeting at
Sherborne fur the purpo^ of discussiug roatteri» relating .
to their profession, A resolution waa passed declaringj
that in the opinion of those present, the ayetcm of Latin ]
pronunciation prevailUig in England is unsatisfactory,]
and inviting the Latin professors at Oxford and Cam-
bridge to draw up and lastio a printcfl piper to seeui-o
nniformity in any change that may be contemplated.
The masters also passed rescdutions relative to the ex-
aminations at Oxford and Cambridge, and al^o oue to
this etfect : — ** That it is uiide8irabk% by ^'eneral legisla-
tion, to banish Greek or any special BuLject from any
grade of schools/'
CTiuoNim.B OP EvKNTS nr IB 70. — The Pail Mall "
Gaxeite for la^t Monday {.'ontain^ m admirable a "Cl»ro*|
niclft of Events in the Year 1870/* that we strongl]^
advice our readers to secure it at once* At a time when
such stirring events are taking ploce^ and ^^o cloMt on t
snother, it i* more nece^.irj' than ever to have at h*ud a
*' Chronicle " of the past year to which ready reference
may be made-
Pecrlis Vaic StnKynKT*.— The death at Brngsels last
week of thi£ eminent artist of the Dutch school of painling
28
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[i»hS.TIL Jjur.7,7
18 »tinout»ced» Bom at Terheydon, neiiT Brisd», in N.
Brabant, April 21, 1806» he studied at Iht- ftcadem y at
Antwerp, then under the direction of Tan Brec- Hia
skilful riinderini; of the varied effects of artificial fiffht
madtt him widely known and appreciated io all ajtcirclei,
KngU^h as well 'as GootinentaL
Royal Albert Hall —The Queen haa fixed Wed-
ueaday, March Th for the day on which Her Blajeatj
proposed to open the Royal Albert Hall at Kcaaiiigton*
Lovtn THE XlV/fi Wig.— The Special Correspondent
of 71ft If Timet at Versailles adds the following to a de-
BcriptioTi of the service held in the chapel of the palace in
thi- presence of the King of Prussia :— '* I ara told by a
learn*?*! German, whose name is well known in England,
and, I must add, Wales, that the origin of Louis' pro-
<h>ri'>ua wig waa not that he might impose oa the world
hy its dimensions, but that ho might prewjn*e the tradi-
tions of hb yuntb. When a young man he was poasessed j
of a very magnificent ckeveture blonde, flowing and cuflyi |
so tliat'it was sraall flattery for sculptors and painters 't
to make him a model for Apollo. Bernini's chisel did
nut please th« king, and his marble now doea duty out in
the cold as Quintus Curtius, As the king grew old, and
* infallible hair restorers' were not, his glor}' fast de-
parted, ftnd he or his courtiers mvented his wig^ flo as to
keep up a rcscmhlance to Apollo/*
Messrs. Hunar Sc Black ktt's Announecments for
the New Year comprise :^The third and fourth volumes
of « Her Majesty's Tower," by W, Hepworth Dixon, com-
pleting the work ; " Recollections of Society in France
and En^^land/* by Lady Clemeaitina Diivie^ i vub, crown
8vo ; *■ Life and Adventures of Count Beugnot," Minister
of State under Napoleon I-, editetl from the French by
Miss C. M. Yonge, author of *♦ The Heir of UedclyJfe," *tc.,
2 vols. 8vo; ** Impressions of Greece/' by the Right Hon.
Sir Thotnaa Wyfle» KCB., late British Minister at
Atherks8vo; "Life and Letters of William Bewick the
AriiM/' hv Thncnas Lsndseer, A.E.^ 2 vols. 8vo, with Por-
trait by §ir Edwin Landseer* R.A. -, '* Turkish llaremq
and CiVciwsian Homes," by Mrs. Harvey of IckweU
Bury, Kvo, with coloured ill ostrnt ions ; " Lodgers Peer-
age and llaronetflge for 1871/' under the Especial Patron-
age of Her Majesty and corrected throughout by the
Nobilit3\ royal 8vo ; and New Work.^ of Fiction by the
author of "John Halifax/' Mrs, Oliphant, Miss Amelia
B, E*lward5, Mr. Anthony Trollopc, Mr. George Mac-
Donald, Mr. J. Sheridan Lefanu, &c.
Thr following volumes (with the Society's die mark,
** Union Society/* on the title-page and elsewhere) arc
wftnle<l bv the Cambridge University Union Society :—
J.oigh Hunt*a " Leisure Hotira in lown^^ "Talea from
Blackwood,'* vol xi. ; Hawthorne's " Mosses front an
Old Mnuse''; *'A Life for a Life"; "Kavanagh";
Dyan Stanley's " St, Paul's Enistle-H," 2 vols, ; *' Weh-
jiter's Scrmom"; Dr. Va ugh an a " Churoh of the Firdt
Dav?/' vol. i. ', Blunt*s ** Sketch of the Church " ; West-
cot t ''On the Gosi>da'*; ♦»WestcottV "Bible in the
Church " ; Maurice's " Faith of the Liturgy "; Trench's
" AulhoriMid Version of the New Testament *'j Harriij's
'■Africa"; Forbes's "British Star Fishes'**, Roacoe's
" Spectrum Analrsi*" ; Greg*s "Creeds of Christendom ";
Leigh Htait's "Town"; Dean Stanley*a ** New Testa-
ment Kcvised " ; Staunton^a " Chess-player's Handbook*';
and Wynter'fl "Curiosities of Toil/* 2 vols*
The Glilh of LrrtnATLRE Ayt> Art, establish efl
years ago by an inllucntial body of Hterarv men who
Were disiiatiitfied with the Literary* Fund, is about to '
appty to Ptrliamcnt for a Bill **tu diHsolve the Guild, to
auihoriHe the Sale of the Lands held by it, and to ap-
propiidito llie X'roce^da of eucb Sale and the other
Funds belonging to the Guild, either in founding one or
more Scholarahipa in Literature and Art, or for sacli
other purposes as Parlianiejjt shall think flt/* Under
the circumstances which led to the formation of the
Guild, it would be perhaps too much to exiject, yet what
a noble thing it would be (seeing that, admitting \
defects in iu management, llie Literary' Fund i*'"
m in lifter effectual assistance to Men of Letters
in need of it, and that with a most considerate
their susceptibility) if the managers of the GuilH co
fed they were best promoting the objects fur which
was established, by tran*firring its property to the Lit©^
rary Fund. We wish Lord Lytton and Mr John Forster,
than whom a larger-hearted man does not exisj^ would
really give this suggestion their unbiassed consideration.
TiiK HirNTERiAN Ci.un,— Under thia title &
has been instituted iu Glasgow for reprinting some of
more interesting works in early Eoglish and Sool
literature. The removal of the College of Crlaagow, fi
the old site in High Street to the new buildings at Gil
morehill having called special attention to the treaaurtf
of old literature iu the Huntcrian Muiseum» the proj'*ct i
forming a Club has bt!en levived, and has taken definid^
shape. The Huntcrian Library contains many voluabla
and interesting early printed t>Qoks and MS^^., which are
undoubtedly worthy of being reproduced, and it has theri
fore been suggested' that the Society shall be called *' Th
Huntcrian Club," It is, however, not intended that i^
work shall be confined to the Hunterian Collection; bi
that books of interest of nn old date, from whatev
source obtained, shall cunie within the scope of the £"
ciety's operations. It ja proposed that the reprints sh
be in /ac~nmilef and, as nearly as possible, of the form i
the original. But as there has been a great ^^ariety i
type used in the production of our early Tite«it are, thei
may be difficulty in getting type precisely simitar '
many of the book^ proposed to t)e reprintctf, without i
curring an e.xpenitQ that could not ha warranted, t
Council may be compelled either to forego the repcintii
of such work.% or to use, for that purjiose, a tjpe of 1
same character, although not idi'nttcal with the origim
The earlier works to be reprinted will probably bo tli
following, which arc cxpacted to bo given fur the Fie
Year- 4 Subscription, viz. : —
*^The late Expcdieion in Scotlandc, Stc, under til
Conduit of the Erie of Hertforde, 6tc. London, 1.W4/'
"Expcdieion unto Scotlande of the most woortby f<M
tunate Prince Edwani Duke of Somerjjet, Uncle to kiq
Edward Si:tth. &c. By W- Patten. London, 154«/'
"' A Dialogue betweene Experience and a Courtier,
the miserable estate of the world. First compiled tu t||
Schottiflcho tongue by svr Dauid Lyndsey, knight
man of great learning nu^f i*cience), now newly corre
and made perfiL Englishe, ^c. Anno lo+jtl."
** The Life and Acts of Sir \Villifliu Wallace. Edii
burgh, 1G20.''
A Canadian Novkl, — We are indebted to tlie P»k
Ushers' CtrcuUr for ihu following extract from the ,l/r»i
ireal Gtizette : '* New Novel by a Canadian Author. — \V
understand that Mr, R. Wortbingtun, publisher, is
fire<tent engaged in writing a novel which is to br pud
i.^hed fiimulLaueouhly in London and New York. TU
leading idea of it will be the jealousies of publi'-hef a, aa
the characters will be drawn from real life. The neoe|
sity of an international copyright law wdl be advocatel
and the secret operations of the New York Ring expa>C)j
The reader will alio be made acquainte<l with the ruj?
sterie-s of the United States Trensury Departineut, ai
shown how fissures are made. The book, it is ejtpCcK
will be fuM of interest/^
<*8.
t i.t. diA,y.,
71.]
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[4*SwVU. Jjur.T.Tl.
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Xeeent apinlosa of tiie Trmwm t
iBtoiMtlnit nuinlAB mmmnilafr ^l^h which NOTRS A^si'u
"^ ' Honmnnr every inirnuit Lofiju «f |lit«f(trr intttn«t."
** That uwM riMiiKitant of deacl knowlKdfB, ydejit NOTES A»n
QUEIiiXS, the antiuuarie*' n^wtpaper/'
■ Qu.' - - •■ r- , -.-'.
** Th«M two vttliitnetifbr l Wl orcrlli '"-
Uli-wajr learninir^ r-mfnTiiitcfMr,- innri'.
mod th^ra ■» ft* r ^
iOfna new ami ain'
iUttitnUMl bf tli>
Wtrenhmnu rup* i -
lIa»yQut.r t
oantury h mi^
Ortove. I. .jr,
put. Tht- ,
tiaa with the au . i*,
COTR7 of llMlr re n ,^f
'^hakciinane'* l-^
. •, anil, in «ii "v;,
ta|Wff»pihjr, t>itiliM-.-rriorn.'. IJtc-
thit SMI fCKT, fari<i*h>Ml tii,w
Itfy lilt vlwrftcicr ni wcU be-
iORA tlnift IcaniM, chato , and
and BiiM, vi
can«idarable
whicli 1
ibnii Iho fuUfcci
balta4a, (blk-loTT, i->rr«,
rary biflon', ftll atikt,
inafcriinlf to thff wetkh
timed upon it, of \\» i ..
NOTES AND QUSaiES
U puhlbhod emy Batordajr, p4w «£., or Fm tv Fbrt< 4R
Itlialv iMMd In Uonthly Farts, and in ETalf-TaarSr Volimie»,CMh
wiHt oopiotta ladez, yc«ea tOK. (hi. ablh Uoarda.
Hbe Rul*rT3rtioi» fW Coww ftw Six Mmth^ fbrwanlM dimi fN*m
t^ itdudhiff the riAi^i^TtAnLr iTsuirfji, t» lum .W,
^' i'iki<l Ify Powt'OOIce Unlor. pa) able ai the ^cutieml
NOTES md QUERIES moy fre ^wcwr^rf by onier *>/
ecwy Bookneller and iVenT/rwut, or o/f/ie Puhh»h*r<,
W, G. SMITH, '13, WemDgtou Street, LooOfin^ W.C
Kow rOftd/4 pcice lOv* etii * cMb ftontib, with -mtt Ct)|4uia« ]jid«3t.
NOTES AND QUERIES^
Volume Five, rourtli Bcrlev.
Cvntaininc. in addUintt to » ewnl Tarf^trorf* timita? tiotett *l«
«nd Ikplieatartlde^ uf iulere^t dii thv fnUowluii tutijcctj ; —
Ba^ltflli, Zrlsli, and SoattlBli Blatovy*
Cadtcmporarv P.^rtrslt of Mary Qi*ec« of 8i»**-.0uniwwJifT Do^^
^:r I'll!.. ilka- Jv'..- .">:1 J.-ril M.^r n nul i"' VUttW« nl 1"i.1"im m n- _DiiJ.4
Blo^rapby*
JrJifi I
liam I
Sibil oirranliy and XiltersirT Bl9ti»7«
Popular Antiquities and Folk Xore*
The Pnnni'>w FUtrh— Wit ?«iii)tMlIlimia.
SsUlads, Old Poetry, and
Brajidy—Th-
jmany-^l'arM.
Scvttwh BAUiiM.-
<ii)^_!^ak«*pearUiia*
Fopular and Proverbial Snytns**
\M (%ayin7v and OTd $ni)ir«_IIantiiic and MuTTin^^Tb* 1
Day the be tier the l>eed.
UruniblcCrkd G«ai»— l^rUicibl QXoMhtf,
Oenvate^y ao«'
Dnnbar Arm*— An.
taDiif Fto«ra«e— Koi^u.,., .
Fine ArU.
fialn^lKYr-Mi-ti'd "TTTri<« 7!ot"-T.* Motbq A«» c4 1» Binallli
J, f^i,. TV ik;r J.land— PorfrtiM ftf Ui»
EarS- f Comloalltlea— SfUjIlof r
CoUfL im.
rv?ji N' :■ li i I of the r"'li»M<**_n«ii»lnS<sn*nfa
J'rden.
Cla-islcal Antiquities.
pby.
: I '.i*j J »Li— i't lutne
I'Liutne of JdJiM I
• rcatat Oarriioii Cbapel» Portimonth— Old Wdi
]Mllse«Uaneous Kotes, Querie«v asA
TuLini:! Titi Sixth ^(toj* »« acast nr a rtw nwf*.
Ainlby0rd«T<rf4lir
i»^S,VlL JJI1S.14.7J.J
.NOTES an;d queries.
29
LOXJSOJ', SdrUXDAF, JAJftAttr 14, U7\.
CONTENTS.— N* 159,
KOTEH:-B]utTH>if.l Of iff In
J.
" .".in-
.it*,
I He-
A LMI ruiirilly Prt>-
ivd«'r-plot Donrrel —
- ThoiuBtt Hocra— Mr.
DifliiilMTtrtKMit of Ladv Fctiwick» S3 —
'■■•■■■--■ •^-^ ^ '-' — i''*nrlHit>iis-*Anony*
oh, ntUis Utmn jj
..,,j .,,,1 ri.i,,a_ I
' 4l<^f j
T —
L.rial of rhaflfs Tl., HT— "Robert
' ruled
• ' 'jrR«
M k1 rnadd
lemJ ttijr
.iUY — Lhwfd**
' It's a for Crj
i>h Mueh — Dr.
N
BLUEBEARD: ORIGIN OF THE STORT.
'Hi* %UfTj of Bliiob^ai'd forms one of a collec-
xltm of tte populaj Duir^ery tales of Frano** for
iHiich W6 Rre indebted to Peirault. How far ho
ppe^enred tlie exact form iu which these tales
muit have been related to him by some old
fsroottf it ia, of cotir^te* impossible at the present
timt* tkv say * It ' ' rted that the story
i» fonndedOa t puted to a certain
"^^^ - i» . .-iHiir de Laval,' who
Icij VII. of France ; but
.M.u ihl^ nobleman is said to
ir bat little resemblance to
. ,.. ro of the nursery. An inci-
thi* life of B. Gildas, Abbot of
liiv. in the sLTth ceo tury, comes
tale which interested us so
h days. A cerlain Count
•if matrimony, but wa.-^ not
ibJed with the consequencea;
I -• gnve s%o« of beinfT likely
■ r, he mnde iiway with her.
T the fourth^ or as some say
, when he tiought the hand
tor of Count Ouerech* of
I ly of gieut beauty, who bad
* *ye of 8, GililaSt Both
r'wiTuld willingly have
lani in Hrit-
4 • ,S« " X. 4, U,' !•* 3, ;uu L.6,— £».]
I any, and had powerful friends at court, insisted
iu his suit, andgBveit to be nndenstood thiU if hia
demand were not acceded to be was (jidte ready to
enforce it at the point of the sword. S. Gildas,
wisKiujr to avert a disastroua war, undertook to
intercodo. and was succeKxful in bringin;; about
Ihe desired alliance, on the condition, bowovoi
that if Conomor should get tired of his wife Iil
should send her back to her father. The wedding
Wivs kept at Vamxi';;* with great pomp, and Cono-
mi>T carried oil* bis bride to his own castle, but
before nxany mouths had elapsed, the countejis,
who was far advanced in htr pregnancy, por-
c M'iv(^d that her husband's manner towards bvr
was eutirely cbangred, and, fearing,' the fate of bis
former wives, resolved to take refuge with her
father. Watch in »• her oppii^rt unity , she mounted
one morning on a fleet borse, and, accompanied by
a few fnitbful followers, pull oped off in the
direction of Yitnne«. Her husband was informed
of her flight, mid pursued her. As he gained
tjpon her, and she perceired that her captm-e waf
almost inevitable, she threw herwlf from her
horse and endeavoured to conceal herself in the
deep recesetes of a forest, but she was discarered
by tier brutal lord, who, with one stroke of hia
sword, severed her head from her body. S. Gildas,
on being informed of what had happened,
hastened to the spot, replaced the head on the
body, and by his prayers restored the lady to life.
She was shortly afteVwards safely deli^^ered of a
son, wbo was baptitied by S. Gildas, and called by
bis name, to which, by way of distinction, wa«
afterwards added that of Trech-meur or Tremeur.
Such is the legend bs told by the Breton hagio-
graphera Pere Albert le Grand and Dom Gui-
Aloxis Lobineau. But now comes a fact, m
related by M. Ilippolyte Violean, In a work en-
titled Prhrinafjii dr Ihetaffne^ which renders it
aluiost certain that Perrault*s tale is founded on
the legend. He Fays that iu January, 1850, in
repairing the vault of the chapel of *S. Nicolas-
de-Bieuzy, some ancient frescoes were discovered
with scenes from the life of S. Triphyna: the
marriage — the husband taking leave of his wife,
and entrusting a kev to her — a room with an open
door, through which are eeim tbo corpses of seven
women banging — the husband threatening his
-w^ife while another female is looking out of a
-window above — and finally, in the last picture,
when the husband has placed a halter round the
neck of bis victim, the opportune arrival of her
frii!uds,accompanied by S. Gildas. If these frescoes
are really of the early date assigned to them, they
probably represent t&e popular form of the legend,
witli some additional incidents which have not
been thought wr^rthy of record by the hagiogra-
pbers, and there vwn be no doubt whence ibie
nursery tale derives its origin.
k
30
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*>^S. VII. J AX, If
Ti^NDALF/S XEW TESTAMENT. FTNESSHED IN
THE YERE 1536.*
Thia is no doubt the lust New TeatAment cor-
rected by the tranektor, ns hia martyrdom took
place in tlie year 1530. The text u considerably
altered from tbe edition of 1534, Thia is
shown at p. V>K} of A Generai Vine of (he History
of the EnglUh Bible, by Brooke Foes Westcott,
It is remRrkable for tbe peculiar orthograpby
ft<J opted in tbo work.
It is uncertain why this spelling was intro-
duced, what it i«^ or the object of it.
Anderson in his Atmah of the Enfjlish Jfihle^
Tol. i. pp. 45.J-0, after alluding to this New Testa-
ment, says : —
*' But i« it possible that this could have been part of
TyTid»l«*8 occupatioD within the walUof tlio caatlejit Vil-
vorde ? Wbile warriDg with these doctors of Louvain on
the one hand, wea h<&^ on the other, at the SAme time
eagnged io e^ime^t pity for the pttm^hboy and huMband- i
man in Glosternhire f Thia orthography Wng regarded
as proviiicinU so it baa be^ii supposed. If the coDJectare
be well founded, and Tyndulo himttelf had to do with this j
edition* it 19 but aeldom that in tho history' of luiy mam
such an instance of the true Ktiblimc <'i»n*bu produced. I
The hook baa never been ftsaij;:^ed to any Antwerp printer \
but if Tyndale onlv furnished a Iht of word-*, to be eni- '
ployed wbenevpr they occarroil in the tran.slalion, tlie
volume could have been printed in Itollaud or any utbur >
place in Brabant."
This euhlirae conjectura requires evidence to show i
that it is well founded, and if a list of words was
given bj Tyndale, the oompoaitor did not follow '
it whenever the words occur — ^for many of the
words flo pecaliRrly spelt occur but seldom, others '
more often, some frequently, and others generally.
I have made a list of about SOO words eih'i-
Hting this spelling. These are an example :-^
1685.
1&84.
ohtacvncd
obta\'ned
saetne
oelde
Oldfl'
taefklvQge
paerle
pcarte
Uekd
pftert
part
toekcn
paeyed
payed
taelked
paoycr
jMiyre
tat^nc
paejTic
payoe
taest
Tsdgno
rage
faygne
waeke
wa«ked
raeted
rated
waele
■ae
say
waelke
BidRi
siLfe
waero
Bseke
sake
wttere
1535.
15SI.
The second column is the spelling in the Nei
Testament of 1534, and shows how designedly it
has been altered.
If any of your readers can give any explana-
tion or tnfonnation on this subject, or show where
Biieh spf^llinjj has been used at any time, either i
print or MS., I shall be much obliged by a commti
nication being made to me. 1 believe no Bibh
or any other Kew Testament exhibits such s]
ing, especially with I after a vowel.
It is much desired that the object should
known which Tyndale had in deviating so muct^
from the spelling then in use, and that of hii pre-
vious edition of 15^, But if Tvndale did not
direct this edition to be so printed, must not thii
spelling have been designedly introduced, thougf
irregularly used, by the person who euperintcnde
the edition ? Fkakcw Frt.
Catbam, Dmlol.
1635.
aboede
abroed
abttaeyne
abyede
bliend
boedy
boeke
boeldety
daay
elcidca
doellie
ooele
daay
deoaerable
dekaeye
faele
faelsly
1 h?y\,
aliOHile
abnxl
abstayne
ftbyde
blynd
body
bokt?
bt^dcly
ebose
clave
dnke
dothe
colde
cole
cote
day
dccerable
deeeave
*kkeye
fank
fnklve
1535.
fiielye
fiiei>nt
gaeaingfi
gaevG
gaeye
graeoe
haast
hsestilr
haet
hoeth and
heath
haeve
hncven
maied
maiMlo
maeke
uiaekiDj^e
maosstpra
nnn^y
naedeth
tiacked
frtVlfi
ttt\Tlt
j^aKingo
gave
paye
grace
hast
ba^^itily
hate
hath
have
haven
mad
made
make
mak^Tigo
mnstcrs
niayc
nedsjth
naked
* Thb IE part, of the second title. No copy is known
with a title or imprint. The place where it was printed,
by whom* or the year, ia unknown.
SIGXIFICATIVK NAMES,
It has often struck me ns a blemish, and som#
times as an absurdity, that novelists, poets, anc
dramatists should so frequentlY adopt names sigi
nificative of character. Such a practice oftefl
^* lets the cat out of tbe bag," and enable^ us
guess at the iUnmwuicnt of a story. In a farce <
in an autobiographical form of late, where the lea
ing personage is mlm^ we may excui*e or eve
tolerate Steady, Diddler, Greedy, Graball, Pr
JIuffincap, Ejusy, and such like. But whert^ th
hero is a family man or woman, the adoption 1
such names becomes in general an abi^urdity
Tbere is no objection to *' Mrs. Malanrop '' ; bu^
if that learned lady had possessed relatives who
figured aa dramati» jwrsonw and spoke good
" idng's English/* the nfuue m appropriate to her
would have been on absurdity for tbem. Sherida
certainly erred when^ in tb« School for Scand
he iidop'ted the name of " Surface *' j it was a goo
one fur that mrface-felhw , the sneaking, canting
hypocritical, gentmental Joiieph ; but it becomi
a bad and inappropriate name when we find
borne by his open-hearted, generous, nol'
brother.
In Warren's novel. Ten T7*ou8and a Yem\ ^
have a '* Mr. Tittlebat Titmouse/' The name is 1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
31
lily altagetber. Xo one, not even a Hox-
ToD ahop- walker or a tally man's counter-jumper,
could have had such an appellative. But when,
ID a Aubsequent part of the ^^ame tale, the author
u DfieeBsitated to give a pedigree, the eumame of
Ti'" ^ irne by eitquirea and men of high
L 'i©8 perfocUy ridiculous and unna-
tu .u I Li. uame of Srai'tb, Brown, Jones, or any
of our numerouii «WM, would have been infinite] v
better. Our old stijndard novelists avoided such
*'tcU-lAl»i " names, Harlowe. Andrews, Grandiaon,
Trim, Jfme», Adama, &c., are quita unexception-
ibU, Dickens in jreneral keepa clear of ait^miica-
tif«». Pickwick, Weller, Snodgrraas, Nickleby,
Gimp^ Brodie, rfqueera, Dombev, Mantalini, *
tht*i' weni liii genuine surnames, and there is no
impropriety in their adoptiont but quite the con-
tnn. MiM Broddon (of who8o ** sensation *'
tilfi I iim no rwItninT) n».»ver adopte aigiiiticativ©
Qiuir^ fur hoT heroes and beroines.
The cl (Logical names in uso by poeta and others
of tin? Luit c«?ntury were learned ubsurditie«, and
I •roughly mi' Enfflieh. I Turd is in his
iV has'** the Kevorend Antettor,*^ '^
- uiiich uf^^^L^cted, and most undeservedly
' was a gtnuiae poet of the Oowper or
^^i-»oL Tiie ViUafje Cttrate contains
Lto English descriptive scenea that are
r to those in The Task. But the
J inrdls are sadly marred by the Greek
I :;. .LTivatives. However, Buch UBmes have
m Bdinotage over Surfaces and Titmou^ea. To
ti* anlearned (cl&asicaUy^, who always form the
Dujority^ ihcy convey no meaning whatever.
Stethkx Jacksok*
"ERASER'S MAOAZLS'E^*: POUTR A IT J5, cfrc/i 1835.
I.'i r.rl>-rire the year 18:i5, and subsequently,
I red in I^raMr^s Magazine a series of
^ jind characteristic portraits of literary
^M«, contemporary or rt^cently deceased. I have
Q'j ii«a whetner the following list ia complete, or
*ppru«ching completeneiM*, or whether it can only
W called a selection* But it may interest your
f^idftft if you can tind room for it, and I should
tturh like to know what additions ought to be
ittidc to it. Those portraits which I have marked
* W the name of Alfred Croquia (Madise);
i *iio*e marked f have a cipher composed of A and
fC in Uoraan capital j those marked ( have no
'^Irtijit's mark, but are undiMtiDguifehable in style,
^iihnt.r, or merit from Maclii^e^s portrtuts. All the
* Tliij u a o^mnion f talmn name, and ia Iwrue by Bt
W orn* pnfrifian family in Taacany. We find a mii-
r in The Timts that Sir
,'ijtcd *'ihc Reverend Ante-
.^' 01 Fadlt'V'Cuoi-Pipetoo, or that be
1 Bishop of bahomey I
J^^i.
above are printed on toned paper ; those marked
§ and II are on paper of a vellower tint, and I think
form a later series. Witu one or two exceptions
they seem to me of inferior merit, and to De in
imitation of Maclise^a style and manner. The
fonner are without mark, and tha latter have
what I take to be a monogram composed of the
letters W and R in script hand. By whom were
the various classes I have indicated executed?
There are also several extensive groups of por-
traits. That of ^*Tbe Fraserians" has no mark,
but it is known to be by Madise. See Theodore
Taylor's Tkavkcroy as a Humoimd. I am aony
I have not a reference to the page. The author
refers to Mahony (Father Trout) as having writ-
ten an account of this picture in l8ijD- AVhere is
this account to be fotmd? The group entitled
"A Few of our F.S.A.s" bears the name of
Alfred Croquis, That of **Tiegina'8 Maids of
Honour" has no name, and differs very much la
manner from the othcra. Who was the artist ?
Ainsworth, \\\ H.' Lofkkart, J. G,§
Beratigrur, J. P. ilc* LiKlf^e, Edimiod,^
Ble«»mgtoti, Cnuiitvsft of.* Lviidburrtt, Lord.|
BowbA, Kev. W. L.J Macuislt, It.t
Biijwater, Sir Onvkl.* Muijfiiun l>r,T
BrvilgeH, Sir S, K.| Mnrtiiirau, HarrteL*
Buckstorie, J. B4 Mitfunl, Mnrv R.jl
Bulwcr, Sir E. L.' Moir, D. M.*
Ca m pbell , Thos^ M ol e^ wort h , W. J
Cnrlyle, TlioTnEis.* Mtiore* Thoma*,§
Cobbetu WtUUni.J Montgomery, Kobfert..^
Coleridfje, S- T,* Morj^un, Ijidy.j
Croker/T. Cjroflon.§ Moriir, Jamea.*
Crok e r, J. VV il .son ^ M u Ij^ra vc. Earl of-J
Cruik?ihttnk» G,* Muustcr, Earl of.§
Cnnningbiim, Allan,* Nortoa, Hon. Mr*.||
DeTniebayCoi»io,DonT,§ O'llil "^ t
Di*ravli, r* <>'i lielL*
Dwracli, B.' I'bi-
Fl'OrBay, Count.t Porter, Janv.J
Dunlop, W'.' Ropers, Satnuel,^
Egt*rton, Lord FranciK-l Roscoe, William."
Faraday, Miclirttsl.; Urns, Oiiptiiin.*
Gait, Jybn.f Kuji-'*!!, Lord .lolin4
Q\^\yr, liev. G. It.f S^tilcr, M. T-t
Gtxiwin, WiUtflm,t Soote, Sir VValLcr,§
( ; t*e I tie, J . \X . X Smitli , J Dmes4
Hall, Anua .Mjina,; Smitli, Sydney.^
1 1 i 1 l/r li om a^,* So«n i!, Si r .JoKn 4
Mobbouse, J. C4 Talfourd, T. N.l
Hogjj» Janii'j*.* Talleyraod, < \ 3l. de.*
Hook» Theodore E.* Thorburn, Grant.^
Hunt, Ldfih.* rd( , L. E*
Tmng. Wajshingloa.* Wmtts, Alane A. J
Jordan, W.§ Wi^wtinacott, C* M.*
Knowles, J. S4 Willow. Jubn,^
Umb, Charles ? Wonkworth, William.*
1 jindon, L. E.* Tydus Pooh-Pooh. our man
Lardner, Dr,' of Geniua.|
J. F, M-
32
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»»»S.VII. JA3r.l4,71.
A Stobi akd its Expahsion.—
**A New Mode of keying a Priifmer under Retiraint. —
A Freachman, who had been teveral yean confined for
debt in the Fleet Prison, foaud himself bo much at home
within its walls, and was withal of so harmless and in-
nflfensive a character, that the jailor occasionally per-
mitted him to spend his cTenings abroad without any
apprehension of the forfeiture of his verbal engagement.
Uis little earnings as a jack-of-all-trades enabled him to
form several pot-house connections ; and these led him
by degrees to be less and leas punctual in his return at
the appointed time. * 111 tell you what it L«i, Mounseer,'
at length said the jailor to him ; * you are a good fellow,
but I am afraid you have lately got into bad company;
80 I tell vou once for all, that 'if you do not keep better
hours and come back in good time, I shall be under the
necestiity of locking vou out altogether.' *' — Sweepings of
my Study, p. 137. Edinb. 1824.
This Mr. Weller tolls in nearly two pages of
" the little dirty-faced man in the brown coat."
T quote only the conclusion, as everybody has or
can refer to Pickwkk : —
" At Inst he began to get so precious jolly that ho did
not know how the time vent, or care nothin at all about
it, and ho wos getting later and later, till one ni;:ht, as
his old friend wos just a shutting the gate — had t'irned
the key, in fact — ho come up. 'Hold hard, Bill,' he
says. * Wot, aint you come in yet, Twentv ? ' says the
turnkey. * I thought you was in long ago.' 'No, I wasn't.'
says tho little man, with a smile. ' Well, then, I'll tell
you what it is, my friend,' says the turnkey, opening the
gate wery ^low and sulky, * it's my opinion that you havo
got into bad company o' late, which I'm wery sorr}- to
see. Now I 'don't wish to do anything harsh,' he says,
• but if you can't confine yourself to steady circles, and
find your way back at reglar hours, as sure as vou're a
standing there I'll shut you out altogether.' The little
man was seized with a wiolent fit o' trembling, and never
went outside the prison walls arterwards."— TAci^icAfr/c*
Papers, p. 4.*59. Lond. 1837.
FlTZnOPKINS.
Garrick Club.
FbOM IlEVERSnAM CUFRCU, \Vr.S'nfORELA>'D.
** To labor I was born ; I bore, and by that forme
I bore to earth, to earth I straigt w*as borne.*'
Moor.LAND Lad.
A Bill actually Presented. —
" The Rev. C. Marriott to John Knapp of Cotesb.ich.
** To one wheelbarrow and a wooden do . . — o.-r. —
To one whtclbarrow and a wood do . . . — 5 —
Interpretation.— ThQ first wheelbarrow delivered
was found ''wanting," and *'a (he) would not
«to"; the second, on an improved principle, was
up to contract and would do. The account is
made out on our family-lawyer's principle, of
fihowing how many items might have been
charged for that are forborne.
MooELAND Lad.
A Westmoreland GuNPOwDER-rLOT Doggrel,
" I pray you remember the 5th of November,
Gunpowder-treason and plot.
The king and his train had like to be slain •»
I hope this day '11 ne'er be forgot. |
All the boys, all the hoys, let the bells ring !
All the boys, all the boys, God save the king !
A stick and a stake for King Jamie's sake, —
I hope you'll remember the bonfire ! "
HxTTTON-BOOr.
Nov. 1. 1858.
The Prophecies of Thomas Martin.— It will
be remembered by some readers of " N. & Q.*'
that in the year 1816 Thomas Martin, a labouring
man of La Beauce, had a private audience of
Louis XVin., in which he told the king in proof
of his mission a secret known to the king alone ;
that he also warned him not to attempt a coro-
nation, and delivered important admonitions to
him for his future government, one of which re-
lated to the suppression of servile work,' and the
sanctification of Sundays and holidays. The
whole account may be seen in the work en-
titled Le PassS et tAvenir, published in 18:?2.
But my present purpose is to draw attention to
one remarkable prediction, which really seems
now to be approaching its accomplishment. I
give it in the words of the above work : —
"Le mardf, 12 mars (1816), sur les sept heurcs du
matin, commc Martin finissait de s'habiller, I'Ange se
montra pres de la fenetre et lui parla ainsi : * On ne vent
rien fuire de co f|ue je" dw : plusieurs villes de France
seront d^truites ; il nV restera pas pierre sur pierre ; la
France sera en proie a' tons les nialheurs ; d'un fleau on
tombera dans un autre.' " — Chap. ii. p. 28.
F. C. H.
Thomas Hood. — ^As the literary reputation of
eyery genuine poet should be jealously guarded
by the public against incorrect quotations, may I
ask whether the following, which appeared in the
Saturday Revieio (p. 837, Dec. 31, 1870)—
" Oh God ! to think man ever
Comes too near his home " —
is intended for the concluding lines of Hood's
Lee Shore —
** O (Tod ! that man should over be
Too near his home " ?
Amongst various readings I do not consider
that, in a point of rhythm, any alteration is re-
quired in this instance.
This reminds me of an emendation of the
Complaint of Nature where an editor substituted
for—
" Can any following spring revive
The ashes of the urn."
" No second spring can e'er revive."
Again, in Innes's Rhetorical Class-Book* wo
find the following alterations in Campbell's
Ilohenlimhn : —
" Can pierce the ire/ clouds, rolling dun.*'
" And etery fur/ beneath their feet
Shall be a soldier's cemetery,^*
Sp^
* London : Limbinl, 1M3.
4*»SwVU. J AX. 14/71.]
^OTES AND QUERIES,
33
Mb. PrxcH a T'huphet. — In the mimber of
Puneh for April 7* 1600, there is one of .Mr. Ten-
niel'd inimitable cartoons, about wliich there
mhould be a nou^ in ** N. & Q/' It is entitled '♦ A
(;^w^T^.^ f tiie Future, A Probable and Large
It of Forei^ RagSf" and reprea^nt^
K JM of Nnples (dethroned in Sept. 1860),
! IIL, and tbf? Pope landing in tbb
' I the very seediest or attires. Although
i as not yet bad the honour of receiTing
rtonate monarchs, theiQ m no teilinp
If* may have. The following is one of
•companying thr r:irtunn : —
iiiie Tiill cOTtie wJi
rn utywts triieti TTvtir rij;;:;' li nm'.
Wi'A nte, rebel, atnl kick vc u out.*'
K:
tl
r
(aurrtf^.
nrSTXTKUMENT OF I^\DV FEN WICK.
7 Sfijnditrtl of Dec. 24, 1870, occur=<
,. .:Ljrestinp^parngrapb,whicbI should
luid been trausiiribed from some Ame-
KsmiQs of Lady Fen wicit, wife of the first govcr-
rli'iH '::n(] owziefof Coiuiiirticutt hav6 be«n sought
t Old Stiy brook' ia tlwt state. She was
'lan bnri'Nl In the tt«te, nnii th«»ini<T-
re; but Biicb bud been tb« viiauge? iti
'.hlftinf? nf the t*hnnnM, that it yfm
, nearly perltct.
iitusually liirge ;
-^l of Lhe IfiMiie iiitlieaieii a lady of slcnder
if? bair^ still partly in curls, and retaining its
I art to the titulitionAof hir
lated in a handsome coffin,
I taki?ti to the tieighbourijj^'
^ I iv* Tbe UlU were tulkd for her for the ilrst time
' I Uer bocea irere removed from thyir long restioj^-
— ' ' ' irial there could have been no reqoiem
, nnlesa it was the war-whoop of ihe
r husbanil, after bi'r death, r>?turnod to
uJ» and AtiJL as one of the judffea oq tho trial of
^Vho WW tbis lady? wtw she tiie wife of
™*irft Fen wick, E^q., who served with distinction
' of parliament, and wa^s nominated one
s judtre.s but dedined taking any part
The Fen wicks were a very
atial family in Northumber-
^ umi Lii" iKviiiniitcy became extinct by the
fJi^cutiont of Sir John Fenwick for high treason
}a thif reign of King- William m. He wa5 buried
*o the chQ2T!h of St. Martin Vin-the-Fields, but
* Hiybrpok, m called from Lords Say and S«k, and
Lady Majry^his wife, was interred with her family
— the Howards^ Earls of Carlisle — in the north
aisle of thc^ choir in York Minster. On one of
the columns of a monument to Charles Earl of
Carlij*lt3 is an inacription commemorative of Sir
John Feowick and his children, surmounted by
his crest and arms : per fess ^i\m and arg^ent, flLx
martlets ; cre^t, a pnrenix in flames ppr. por^'ed
with a mural crctvra, countercharged; mntto,
**Perit ut Vivat'*
An inscription, in the middle of the same m^wiu-
ment in Yorlt Minster, commemorates Lady ^lary
Fenwick, who died in 1708 ; and at Castle Iloward,
near Malton, ia a porti-ait of the same lady- ??ir
John ia said to have read Kiiimg no Mttrder beforo
enffagfing in his treasonable practif^es, and, though
there can be little doubt of hi^ ffuilt, yet the mode
of procedure which produced las c^mviction Wita
uojuat. An insult, which Sir John Fcnwick hud
once oiTered to Queen Mary, i^ said to have be<*n
ever nnfor;mtten and unforgiven by Kinp M^il-
liam III. MncQulay observes, in reference to this
circumMance : —
" But loniy flfter her death, a day came when lio had
rci^n to v/h\\ he had rcatrain^d hU insolence- Up fi>nnd
hy terrible pr«»«f tbnt of all the Jacobites, the tno*t
de^pcrat^* n.?sa«.*in* not excepted, he wit* the only onfi for
whom WHllam felt an intense pergonal aversion-**-^
Nisior^ if England^ iv. 34, ^.nlition c-f \^M,
JoiI5 PlCKI^RD, M.A,
Bdton Percy, near Tmlcastc r*
"•■^ priiici|»l |nx>pn«toa.
A'BjICKKTT*8 MrRDERER** — SOMEnSET^UIRK
Traditions, — In the Flat Holms in the Bri^lol
Channel are three ** unknown graves'* which tra-
dition afisigns to the murderera of Archbishop
A*Beckett, and I should bo prlad to know on what
authority. The le^^^nd runs that after the bloody
deed the aasossins tied to a remote part of S<«n ver-
se t^hkpj and there built an abbey. What abbey ?
Iharr often thought that an^ir book
could be made of Somerset^hirv , for I
know of no English county ricbrr m ui-Utrical
associations, from those of King- Arthur's day to
" Kin^ " Monmouth *s.
S. K. Tow3f5Hran> Matek.
Rjchinond, S. W,
At^^onymoits.— In 1820 wa;8 publiahed Jlom*^ in
the Xinetefnfh Centtrnf * , , in a Sej'kn of I^itej-n,
il vols. Mr* Bohn, in hia edition of LoimdeHf
under the head *^Eome/- altributeait to MissE. A.
\^^aldie, afterwards Mrs. Eaton. Under the bead
**W'aldie/* he says that Miss E. A^Waldio's j-ister.
Charlotte A. W'aldie, who afterwards married
5Ir. Eaton, wrote tke book. AHibone gives 3liss
Charlotte E. Eaton as tlie author. Which ia
right? lv\5,
I Aftmor waited.— Who ia the author of the
' hymn, ♦* Guide ua, O thou great Jehovah "?^ln
34
KOTES AND QUERIES.
[•t^hS.VIl. Ja3<. ii.TlJ
htiyf^ of my liyinn books the author is given
Te? peclivelyaa *' Oliver/* *' Williams/* and '* Robin-
son/» Y. S. JL
[Millt^r, in his Sm^a and SoHpn of the Church (p» 23),
mys thar this hymn iii from tb«*\V*?l*b of William Wil-
liAm-!!. Tho translation hoa born i^metioifiS attribatecl
to n W. Evans.— Eu. •* N. & Q.*']
Hfajt BLACKLEAcn^ aUas Huan Hesketet, —
Hurdv, in his edition of Le Neve, set;^ down these
two Bwhops of Sodor and Man as the eatne per-
^^n ; and yet it cnn hflrdlv bo eo. Heskelb is
the nnmo of n county family of some celebrity ;
Blfickleach i.s compfltrativelj unknown to hme^
though not an imcooinion name in some parta of
Lftncadiirp, Blacltlt^ach is mentioned in the will
of Sir Williflni Ffanng^ton, Knt.^ which bears
daUi May L*^i, 1*501, and wn^ proved on the lu,st
day of December the eani© year, under the style
of *'the RtvvVnd ilad*?r in God Van Bhikelachp^
Bishop of Man." (Worden Evidences, cited in
Lam'fiJfhirc Chant ries^ voL ii, p. 183, Chet, Soc. Ix.)
JImiH, without the siiniFime of Hesketh or Black-
leach, is mentioned under date of Oct. 31, UM,
by GeotTrey, Bishop of Lichfield and Coventry,
as Bishop of Zoder, (Lane. Ch(mt., vol. i. p. 107,
citinf( Uejj:. Blythe, Lichf., p, Ho.) On the an-
Ihorily of thn same Pegister, Huan Ileaketh was
only a chantry priest at the chapel uf St. ^Iary»
litirtord, in 150(3, when Blackleneh was alreiidy
a bishop. In 1/507 Aiyce Ilolte, of Che^ham,
conmn to his mother, bequeathfd to him ** a piece
of emhraihery ^* ivhich she had made for a cope,
whilst he was still serving the chantry chapel at
itu fiord. In 1522, however, Thomas, second Eavl
of Derby, constitnled h;« trusty friend Sir Hugh
Hesketh, Bishop of Man, one of his oxecutor.««.
(Lane. Chant. ^ i. 160, citing- Bryd^e s Peeratfe, Viu
698.) Flower's Visitation of Laneashire, recGuXly
pubHshcd by the r'het, Soc., vol Ixxxi. |>, 80, calls
Bishop Heslreth Witlinm^ and makes his mother
to he Grace, dauirhter of Phyton of GawJlwi>rth,
county Chester, Knt. This is quite at variance
with the He.*iketh pedigree and with the state-
mvnt puhliiihedin '' N. & Q/' April 23, 18*^>3, No.
1*12, p. 40J1. I shall be obliged by any elucidation
of these difficulties. * * A. E. L,
'' BeuIttties op England and Wales*': Plans.
I should be ^eatly obliged if any of jour cor-
reapondenta could inform me of the possessor of
the plates from which the plana accompanying
thia celebrated book were worked, or any portion
of them. W. G. R
La Cabacole.— What was Wevnracokf After
the memorable interview of the confederate nobles
with the DucheBS of Parma, in loOO, Motley
states that they left the ro<mi *' muking whttt is
called the earacok^ in token of reverence,*' He
refers to the original of the Pont us Pay en MSS. :
**tournoyans et faisans la caracole devant la dite
Dame.*' 0. S, A.
I
Chepstow. — Chepdow is called in Domesday
Book Estrighoiely aliaa Siriyoielg, W^hat is the
derivation and meaning? How aod when did the
present (by no means modem) name arise F
C. E, W.
Chess in England and CniNA.^WTien vim
chess introduced into England? What is the
date of its discovery in China, or when was it
first played in China ? J. Wason*
[Dr, Dimcan Forbes, professor ofOtieatal UnguAg*?* iu
King's CoUtge^ contributed u series of puptn on t tew
to tlie lihutratcd London NatA^ which were ftftrn\ ard*
collected in a pamphlet for private circulation. TUl* pro-
(esmr ailopt»?d thi? cotacluision of Dr. Hvde and Sir WiU
liara Jone.s that *^ Chess wa» invented in India, and th*^n™
introdacL'd into Pertda and other Asiatic regions '
the sixth century of our era." The origin of the j
altogether lu/st, and it is supposed to have cxi-r
several thousand years before the time of jti iotroduciiuit
into Porsitt, Jkc]
Custom of the Danish ComT.— A. E, W.
has been informed by a lady once present at a
stale banquet in Denmark that two of the king's
attendants wear on their heads a sort of mitre,
the hollow in ita centre beinir filled with natural
liowers. Can any one give the origin or meaning
of this singular head-dress, which seems to \
an ancient one, or inform A. E, W. if her infortni
tion ifl correct ?
Defoe and Manchesteb. — This heading will, I
thinkf surprise many ; for no connection hn^, ^o
far as I can aacertaiu, ever existed between the
cotton city imd the famous author of MMntg^^
Vntfioe. ^U
My friend Mr. John Owen^ who is a disciple <^^
liobert Patterson, and indeed is well known in
our Lancashire towns and villages as ** Old ^ •
t^Uitv/' in the course of his researches am
the ilanchester Cathedral registers has come ..,..»
an entrj^, of which he has sent me the following
memorandum .—
" 1743, Ap. 29. Mercey Defoe, ividuw* buried."
The name is so uncommon — manufactured, it
generally supposed, by the man who hoA made
immortal — that we may expect to iind the ** wido
buried *^ at Manchester a relative of the preat
novelist Perhaps aonie corrpspoudent will be_
able to assign her a place in the family tree.
William E, A, AxoxJ
Joynnon Street, Strange ways.
The Donna Jxjliana Diez.— A celebrat
Portuguese beauty, to whose influence over tfa
Emperor Akbar and his grandson, Shah Jal
Ih© Portugueti^e are snid to have been, in a grtw
measure^ indebted for the territory ceded to th«0
by Bahadur Shah of Gujrat. This lady, ol
whose history so little is generally known, waa
captured by a corsair on her voyage to Tercei»
one of tlie Azores Islands, and taken to Constant
uople, where she was purchased in the filave ma
dag '
I
4»S.TII, JAsr. H,7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
35
leet for tbe Ottoman Emperor Selim IL, and sent
UA at present to Akbar, the grent Mn^hul Einperor
of Iiif^ia, who died a. d. IIjO*'). Wo-h the Don tin
Jaliana Die« the mother of Prince 8eUm, after-
warda JahAo-gir, and what ac^^ount m given of
K««y TotnAiitic adventures in the Ahwdl-i-Bihi
JuiumOr tradmte par Edward Henry Piilraer, Ht.
J * ' 1" ^lege, CftfuUridtre. ** Nouvellea Annalos
d ^." Mill. l^*Ji^1. 11. R. W. Ellis.
ri.A.x^i... . near ExeUTt
j^BAwncas ht Johx Cakter. — In whose poa-
^^^ are the twentr-seven volutnea of drnwmg3
Tjy thi» antiquary between 1704 and 1817,
^olume^ of wliich were exhibited by th*; late
John Britlout F.S.A,, Ui the Society of Anti-
^Qftries in June 1H40? They were valued by bim
la one hundred guineas* W. P.
Tnii Five English Spires op TmRn-PorjiTFD
0ATK. — The Stuuk-s Express^ m describing the
K»cent injury by lightning to Ilarlfield apir© in
iKai county, ata'tea : —
•• Tb« jipiru f« one of five m EnghnJ that fire clearly
.»f tbiffS'pt^inCfld dale, broad apires^ A.n, 1377."
Co2» any correspondent inform me' where are
th» four others alluded to ?
Thomas E. WrimrKOTON.
ITrvTCY's T^^CGLISH "Vathjjk," — It hf of
known that Eeckford wrote hia
r tu French. Mr. Timbe, in hia
En^tsh Ercciitrics and Eccetdncities^ art, **Tbe
Becklbrda and Fonthill/' p. 4, mays : **An En polish
IzanilatinQ of the work afterwards appeared, the
anthor of which Beck ford said be never knew ;
ho thou;>ht it tolerably well donp/* On readinjr
the Rev. J. Wood Warter's *Selediom from (Jw
< of liohert Sotdhtnf, 1 find in a better from
j^'V to >Ui?.s Barker (vol. i. p. ♦'?n3) tbat the
Imnalation is by Mr* Henley, who has
of the most learned notes* that ever
I p" i»r^ 1 m any book whatever." Who was Mr.
H'^nl^vf' 1 fluppoae it is his translation which
lilt ttliu>r (Mr. Hain Friswell) of the ** Bflyard
iWie»** edition of Vaihek haH reproduced ?
S. R. Towkseenb Mater.
Riclirofiiid, S. W.
Charles Lamu's Complete Correspondence
lyp Works. — In 18»>8Measr8. Moxon issued vol.
'• "f Lunib*s Ltftierit rmd fffjrk^, to which was
jJ^fiiMjl an ea^y ** On the Geniusi of Lauib/' by
^Jr. 0. A. Sala, and it was stated that three more
^i>iuTne«i would complete the publication. After
lli»< Upfe of more than a year, Mes«?rs. Moxon
^I'^d Lamb*5 ComplHe Correspondence and JVorkSf
'11 four voU., and I naturally auppoaed that I had
- I purtjhase vola, iL, iii., and iv. to complete
Jtiiige of my larprise on tinding that
' i« essay in vol. i. has been aubstituted
Hial preface by Mr. Thomas Purnel] —
L
making the 187tJ edition of Lamb differpnt from
that begun in 1808, of which I am told that a
goodly number were sold, so that there are many
persona in my predicament. 1 am informedi on
the best possible authority, that the vol. i. issued
in 18G8 was edited by Mr. W. Carew Ilazlitt. I^
that the case with the four volumes publi'^hed in
1870? If not, why not ? Surely the purchasers
of the 18*38 volume have a right to know the
reasons for the publishers' change of purpose. I
do but express the surprise £uid annovance of
many of Lamb's admirers, who would like some
kind of explanation given through *' N. & Q.'*
S. R, Townshend Mater.
Richmond^ S. W.
Neale kot O'Neale: Tatlor not TAyi.orn,
Can tmy of your correspondents explain wliy it
happens that the families of the Earl of Aid-
borough, Lord Dunalley^ and Mr. Bayly of Debs-
borough, CO. Tipperary^ describe th**m^tlv<'.H as
being descended from Archdeacon Benjiimin
O'Neale instead of Neale^ — the archdeacon*^ real
name? The archdeacon was born in PXil, the
son of Constantine Neale, Esq^. (whose will dated
April 20, 169^, wm proved Feb. 3, lO^j), the
grantee of estates in the county of Wexford,
Feb. 1, 10 Cba^, IL — he being then a merchant in
Dublin. The archdeacon entered Trinity College,
Dublin, Mav 12, l(i70, as Benjamin Neale. He
married Ilaimah Paul (Marr. Sett., Feb. 8, 101^),
and had issue two daughters, viz. 1. Deborah, mar-
ried tir^t John Bayly, Esq^* and, secondly, Henry
Prittie, Esq., by 'whom «he was mother of the
first Lord Dunalley ; and 2. Martha, marrietl John
Stratford, Esq., created Lord Baltinglass and Earl
uf Aid borough. The archdeacon's will was dated
Dec. 20, 1732, and administration waa obtained to
him Nov. liO, 174 L Not only did Constantine and
bis son call themeelves ** Neule " all through their
live^, but various dceda and documents executed
both by- them and by Messrs. istratford and Bayly
recognise that to betbe family name. One of the
sons of Mr, and Mr^. Bayly was called to the
Irish bar in 1740 by the name of Benjamin Neale
Bayly; and his eldest &on, of the same name,
levied a tine in 1708. Again, the present Mar-
quess of Head ford has changed hts name from
iaylor, as it always was, to *'Taylour," which
spelling was previouslv unknown in His family,
y. s. M.
OMURE.^Can any one refer me to an account
of this game, and how played ? PopeV dcgcriptiou
of it ia magnificent (m tho third canto of Jlftpa
of thv Lof'kjy but at the same time I at len^^t am
ignorant why the ncc of a suit should be captured
by the khiff^tor we are told the latter
•* Falli like thunder on tho prostrate ace.**
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4tbS-VlL Jak. 14,
" A Partt m A PAKLorR.*'--Ia the E/t^i/s of
Eiittt Charles Lamb uhpr tbe foUowing quotation
in Lis '* Chapter on E&n^ ** : —
** A party in a parlrtur,
All silent^ flnd aH damned."'
From whence h the quotation taken ?
G. SUFFBBTB.
Willenhall.
[Thft line* are inade up frmfi it AtaniEn in WorrbvroTtU**
Fcter Bdl (ed. 1819), bot winch wjt* otnitted from liic
iMcr editions : —
*' Is il a party in a p»rli^ur ?
Cramincd just a* tliey on earth were crammed ; —
Some sippm^ punch, some sipping tea,
Btit AS vo« by their faces see
All sileo't, And jUI dAmned/*]
PzARsox OF IviPPEiYRoss. — I should he obliged
to any corri^spondont who would pve me thut
portiou of the peditrre© of this family which em-
nmcea the ponod between 15S0 and K180, also
Any other pedigrees of the same name in Scothuid,
l>etween tbo-s*^ dutea^ with coats of arm^, &c. My
object ia to identify nn impaled coat on an ancient
hoiiee in the neighboui^hood of Edinburgh, the
impalement of %vhich I believe to be that of
Pearson ; but I am unable to account for the
match which it indicates. I published in the
Getitlenian's Mapazine^ a few years since* * full
particulars of the above armorial sculpture^ but
nm unable at present to give the correct reference
to the No. in which it appeared. Sp.
Old Prtxtb of Stottritekge. — Tery lately an
old print of Stonehenge has come into my posstB-
fiion, containing' two view*?, one looking from the
west, and tb« other from the south » Judg-in^r
from the costumes and equipage of the visitors,
and the general style of the engravin*?, it seems lo
me that it must date at least from the early part
of the la^st century* I have in my collection views
taken in 1776 and 1784, but these are evidently
much more modern than the other. In the view
looking from the south, the single stone known
as the **Friar*s heel*' can bo seen on the right
hand. Other outlyinj^ stones are also vifiiblo in
both views.
Could any reader of " N. k Q." acquainted
with the literary and artistic history of this the
greatest gronn of our Brilii*h prehistoric stone
remains enligoten me a^ to tlie date of publica-
tion of this engranug ? Perhaps its identity mav
be recognised by the following description. ' Each
view hae an independent heading, the upper being
'* A Prospect of Stonehenge from the We.<" and
the lower *^ A Prospect of StoDehense from the
South/' In a white line between the two views
is printed : ** Sold by Henry Overton at y* White
Iloree without Newgate, London; ^ In the lower
view the artist's name is given as " D. Loggan
delin. et excudit/ ' Edwin DtrjcKOf, F.R.A.S.
MS. NoTEi? IX Raleich's Hist. — In " N, & Q/
of (Jet. ;]0, l>-69, p. mo, a correq>ondent, W. C. J
j^ives 8^me v«ry interesting extract* from MS
marginalia in a copy of Raleigh's IlUtofri^ *?/ ' '
World, 1G14. Would W. C. B, very ■' ^
allow me to see this volume ?
J. O* IIalltwcll. ]
HistTOKY OP St. Pancras. — Mr. 5\Hliam
Leathart left a MS. in two volumes, of a histoi
of the parish of Saint Pancntp, in the county
Middlesex. Mr, W. D. Leathart died in the yr
1853. Could any of your readers iufonn me
whase cuatoily ttis MiS. is now P R, WAt'OB-l
l3»JTA5t03f OP SwrrZERLAKD BT THE EXOLIS
In the Bonk of Butm, 1802, p. 27o, it is stat
that **in 137*j the Swiss repelled an invaaion
the English bunds.** In a MS. note in my
session it is incidentally mentioned that '*in
levan ah Einionab Gruffydd led an armythrouj
Germany intc* SwitjterlaTid," I presume
these two Htatements allude to the f^ame invasli
I have looked into a dozen historical works*^ bnfl
1 can find no reference whatever to it I de«a:
therefon% to know where a detailed account of
may be found, together with that of the circum
stances which occaj?ioned it, as well as of ita t\
suit. G LAX
Latin Rni^ifnco Poem o» WEiTHERcocifs.
Readers of Mr. George Macdonald's new story l\
Sf, Pauls, if they are also students of ** N. & i)J
will have perceived how closely, in the convei
tinn on weathercocks in chap. xii. he follows th(
rurious Tjatin rhyming poem communicated b;
rLERicts fD^ in June, 1857. I am glad to cal
attention to this poem* as I wi.sh to ask if tb
entire comp'isition is to be found in any ncce^^ihl^
printed book, Wm, J. Loftib.
WHALt:*s IllB AT SoHRKNTO.— Beneath the ]
tico of a church at Sorrento there lianga a rib
a whale, whose history I wiis imable to ascer
the only p*^rson said to be acquainted with
being absent. The following is a Irt^rnl copy
an inscription upon a stone tablet i\x**d to the ^
opposite the rib. Antonini Wiis bishop of So
reuto.
" Rfsplee banc ceti <?ostiiin,
Admirari miraculo
Hie divi Antonini outu
Ubi natnin « ventre ronatum
j^Tatri vcndi<ltt
Ibi vetnirn perdMit ntr\u^ dedit
Pia flodolittts in tropbtt-um erexit.**
Can any of your readers throw light upon tha
subject? W. H,B.
BAth,
£Q>% Cwjtffm in Uic* iir.^l II n**. Ut'm inscripiioa olb«(
wise rendcn»i eorrwctly ? — Kn. ;
h.
• About lS^S-4,
4<^ a Vtl. Jan. 14, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
37
POECELAIX MEMORIAL OF CUARLES II.
(4^ S. ?i. oOl, 578.)
It i^ imiMfiaible, without seeing the dialies ia
qiaemun, tmd even tlien, t^i aay with certainty
vht^rt- thf^y were made. Imi 1 would atlributw
tl initioned bj Sv. F. R. to bf^ made in
i>i. ■ rnther tbafi Falbam. Indeed tbertj
rhiU Ivind which we cdn positively
ftt Fnliiaru, whereas we have
' iro manufacture. B^aides,
pitent ia dated 1C71, and it
, " ^ u, up at Fulham stjveral new
-: Thia throws the dish of F. 8. A„
dai^a iifriv, out ol' the rfcord altogether. In 1064
Dwi^ht of FuUinni prot hiB patc^nt renewed for
fr,T— -^^ara more, and what be niakea is thus
d .lit:—
peroral .4
Jolia Dwiu
•' wcT*Jt new mttuufactor* >
tlM niiea of wbtu? uor;;es (pii
war
Ml aU'l 'MFJ.O
l|^^^i^ f(
"1 Uy
1 me
i vt cWwht-re; aiul
;iart"Tit porcwllfliv, and
•rcellane or china, and
'..irtrs, and the myaitrv of the Cologne or stone
Tat a long; time Dwight'e imitation Coloprne
wwre inmd<^ nt T niti »tn wa? undirftin^uishable from
the (Jennn l", but a well-mfurmed man
now r ; --.^ iufruish it^ and refer it to its
ipinal source. Soiul* years ago Mr. Reynolds
hnstd a most interesting collection of the
Wly productions of the FuUmm manufactory'. It
conirted of aljout tweutT-fire specimens, which
h'iil IwM n pr rvM by euccesaive members of the
as heirlooma since the period of
re, and were aold by the la^t rc-
it there was col a dish amongst
V' --• ■
tk lut
V>r Plot, in liiw Xatural History of Orfoi^dMlnre,
(Oxford^ 1677), telb us that :^
"TTif trr*'ni''it* Jf4tji Dwiuht, fortn^W M,A, of CliHst
CfcttTri: I " ' "' . 'ihh
..i'l' I, ' ,-■■."■■' '-'l*'h
uiti ill ^rc4ii i|uuutitiv>3) and hiilli
I the sansR^ which (hv method*
'r 'her uoHke tbos<^ ufcd
. years' time, he hjith
than it ha,i atlfiined
sor liiauy a^ci^ insomuch that the
. <uf Londoni who are the dealers
ry, have coutrartcd wilh tlio iaventor
Bnglbh man ufuc tare, and rcfase the
am dishes noted who8^ dates
I'acture have any resemblance
hy W. F. H., nut there are
*"u. .,.,.,,.... ...ij ones, Shaw's Chemistrt/ of
^enj lellii Q8 that Thomas Toft was a Stailord-
ahire potter about 1080, and a large earthen^
dish, bearin^r his name on the border thereof, is in '
the Cieologicnl Mut^ennu It has iu the centre a
lion crowned ; the g^round is b«fi'-coloared| and
the ornaments laid on in black and brown -coloured
** slip/* .Inothi^r di>h t*o niarlied is in the Bate-
man Mtiseum, Yojgrave, Derbyshire, It has in
the centre a half-length crowned portrait of
Charles II„ w4th a sceptre in each hand, and the
letter* i\ II,, with a r**d nnd block trellis pattern
on the border. A Ilrvlph Toft was also a Stafford-
shire potter about the same time, llh name, with
the datj 1G77, in on a dhah in the collection of
Mr, Reynolds. It has a but! -coloured pround,
with fi;/ures in relief of brown, outlined with
black; in the centre a soldier, iu bud' jerkin and
full-bottomed wig, a sword in each hand ; on one
side a crc»wned head and bust (Charles II.) ;
chequered ornaments and name on the border.
William San? , al«o mentioned in Shawns Chemidnj
of Votttt'ih and William Talor, were Stalfordshire
poitf'r* about H580, and manufactured similar
dishes. I therefor© conclude that the diah men-
tioned by W. F. H. was made in StatTordshire.
I v^m think that the di^^h mentioned by F.S. A,,
of the dale IGGO, was nianufiictured at Lambetb.
In lUmiration» ofAjis ami Mamtfmiurun (London,
1841), by Aitkin, we m^j read as follows : —
" It in nboat two hundred yr'a,T* asrn (tthmif, liVtO) since
fcjine I'liieh |Jottcr:* eamo and e*tflbli*iied Ihofii^icU'e* in
L.imheth, and by degji-vn a Jittle coluoy ^\;^*^ Hxed ia
that vUltt^, piji^Riicd of aUmt iwi'nty mnnutiictoriea, in
which wtTc made the RU/tid pottery and tik-^ rotiyiimcd
in I^oTiffon aod in various otlitrr parta i)t tl- ' -r- ' 'ti.
Here the}' contiunt'd in a flouriahin;; state, i-
pUn'metit to many bnn<h in the various dt[ 'i'
thut art till nbout tlfty or frixty years ago; whtiii lUe
potters or Staffurdfthirc* by their conimereiaJ Rctivity.
and b}* the great improvemeuts introduced by them IQ
the «|uality of their vinre, cMmplptcly heat out of the
market ihr Lflnihetii delft manufactures."
The iware made at Lambeth was principally a
kind of delft, with hmdscape** and ii^rures painted
in blue. One of the Dutchmen referred to was
probably Van Ilamme, who obtained 4i patent in
lC76, the preamble to which jrtatea —
** Whereas Jobn Arlens Van Ilamme hnth humbly
ret>reiented to us that he if, in purciuance of the encourmge-
ineut hehatli rtceived from out Arob.iHsador at the Hague,
come over to settle in thia our Kiaj*doni, with hi^ own
friniily, to flxcrciee his art of making tiles and porcelane,
and other earthenwares after the way practhied iu Hol-
land."
The spelling' of the inscription on the dish of
F.S.A. decidedly indicate/^ a Dutch origin rather
than that of Dr* Dwight, Vicar of Fulham, whicb
LyKons, in his Eniirotts^ says he was; and his
death ia thus noticed in the obituary of the Oen-
thiiimis Magttzme for 17^7; — *'At Fulham, Br.
Dwight. Ho was the iirat that found out the
secret to colour earthenware like china."
38
KOTES AXD QUERrES.
[;4*»'S.VIL Jax. H,7I.
There are aonie rery curioua matters, t^ the
studi'iit of ceramic ware, connected with the
Ij<inilj»;tU pottery, but spaco forbids me to allude
ti them here. William Pi:?kkrton, F,S.A.
ROBERT BOWMAN, THE ALLEGED
CKNTI^XAHIAN.
(4*»» S. vi* tt, 140, 203, 22*2.)
Mr* Oilfix des(»rves the best thanks of al! who
are intt?rcatcd In ihe questiOD of longevity for
the troublfi ho hns taken in investigating the case
of Rol^H^rt Bowmafi; and as one who knows by
painful f^xperioncfi the vadt amount of time and
labour which mich ioquiriea entail, I beg to thank
him most heartily.
I appreciate the good serrice he has done in
colleetinj^ the information which he has laid
before the readers of *' N, & Q,," and I am the
more anxious to avow this, seeing' that, at the risk
of being classed among those '* who are uudtily
burdened with sceptical mindn on thia subject*
I am flo far from drawing from the evidence
brought forward by Mk. Gilpin the conclusion at
which he has ai-riv^^d — viz., that Robert Bowman
was *' at least one hundr^fl and eujhteen yran old
at the time of hiB death *' — that my doubts upon
that point are very conaiderably strengthened.
8o far from confirming or eatablisbing the
identity of the Robert Bowman baptised at flay -
ton in the year 1705, with the Rf>bert Bowmiin
who died at Irthington in 182^1, the evidence
adduced by Mil. Oilmn seems to me to have a
directly opposite tendency. Mr. Gilpin aeiirched
the llayton re^n^ter carefully for lifty or sixty
yearSj and the only liaptism bearing directly upon
the subject is that of Robert Bowman, hftptised
in 1705; but if this ia the baptism of the cen-
teuarian Robert, tIiP3 eame register would ^ in all
probabilitVi have contained the regi^iter of the
Drother TKomna, said to have been horn either in
1707 or 171L Surely the absence of tlie baptism
of Tbomaa leads to tbe inference that the Robert
baptihnd was not the brother of Thoma^s and
consequently nut the Robert who died at lrth»
ington. Mk. GilpiXj who produces not a tittle
of evidence an to the age of Thomas, *' who died
in 1810, aged ninety-nine yeara, oPt an some sat/,
ime hundred and om/^ mys : ** If Robert Bowman "a
age b^ a delusion and a anare, then h also the
age of Ma brother Thomas. Both men must atand
or fall together." I agree with Mr. CiIlpin in
his premise,?, but differ in his concljLKJon, I
liold that there ia not a particle of evidence aa to
the real age of either of tuem.
It is imicU to he regretted that Me* GiLPnr's
endeavours to procure the marriage certificate were
not attended with success; as, although such cer-
♦^Hcnto would probably not have ahown hia age,
fht have described the place of bis birth, or
at all eventa bis then rendence. But, in the
absence of this document, we gather Iroin the
tombatone in Irtbingmn churchyard some facts
connected with his marriage which deserve coi
sideration with reference to his presumed agi«, I
the tirst place, presuming as wo may,from the birtl
of th*^ eldest son in 17t50, that Bowman marri(
in 17*50,* he wju? tifty- four years of age, while
wife, born in 172H, was twenty-one years youm
being only thirty -three, I do not tnow'wheti
the yeomen of Oumherland marry yoimg crm
but Hfty-four is, aa a general rule, so except ioni
an age for a man to marry at, that the staterae:
i^ calrulrittHl to increase' rather than to rem*r
my scepticism*
But IS not a clno to the absence of all evidence
to be found in a fact which Mr, Giu i
over slightly, and on which his infoi ;
probably imperfect- " Bowman," says Mil < • i
^* liaviug pa^s^ed his whole life in the neighl
hood of his birthplace— p.rc«f/j; a few ear It/
«pent in XorthumhHand,''^ Now may not ttU
early years have been spent in Northumbcrli
(where, if we knew the preei*e locality, both hift^
bnptii^mal and marriage certiticatea might be dis-
covered ), and he have removed to Irthixigton on
his marriage ?
What was the maiden name of Bowman's wife
where were their children bom and baptised ^ f<
the accounts of Bownmn*s children are very coi
tradictory. l>r. Barnes, writing in 1821, Ra^
*Mie married at the age of tifty'* (which would be
in 175o) **and had six sons, all of whom are now
living; the eld e^^t is ,>?/"/ v-n'W and the voun^
ftfrbj^u^t'en, which omkci^ the birth of the eld
son to have taken plfice in 17(11, whereas <)n tbi
tombstone erected in Irthlngton churchyard th<
eldest son h de.seribed as having ** died J*ily i'
1844, aged eighty-four Tears"; according t(
winch he must have been oorn in 17tlO.
I am wriliug hist now under great disadran-
tages, rmd iudeHci should not have writteij nt al
but that 1 feel it lis due toMR- GiLPLN'to ncknow'
ledge tiiG pains he bfts taken to aj«certain the]
truth, but as in my opinion Mit. Gilpin's evid-
ence does not su.Htain his belief that he hi
established the fm't that Bowman was 118, I U
hound to point out where I think it defective.
Mr, Gilpin'.^ generfjsity hfts, I think, tempt
him to take the weaker side ; but whatever ma/'
have influenced him, he now deliberately avows^
hi ^ belief that Roh»>rt Bowman reached the verjfi
exceptional nge of 118. 1 do not say he did uoi
but 1 do say there is at present not a particle
* I ant aware Dr. Biiraes, wriliiu; in 1821, «iiyii I
man marrM In 175.\ %vtien he wa» fiftvy ' " ' t '
if so, it 13 turioti-* rlint fo mflnyyearssho
before the ttirth <>!' hLn fir^t i*hi1d, who, a
acoouat, wa» born in 17*50, and to another in i;r,l, Th#J
births of the other children followed at nhort intervals.
^^ s. TIL Jiut. 14, 71.1 NOTES AND QUERIES-
3D
eridenoe tliAt he did 8o. Those who support the
ifgument that Bownmn was 118 must prove
tbetr CRU^. •* Eo incunibit probatio qui dicitj
nnn qai negat/' days the civil law ; and it tiiny be
«ii!« J rTijit the civil law also requirnd that in
t I as the supposed fact w»i^, aa in this
<• pflonal and be von d tht^ ordinary nature
tfi thtajra, 90 ought the evidence in support of it
lo he clear, distinct, and beyond all douot.
' WiLLUM J. TnOMS.
40, Sc George'* S^juftr©, S,W.
PASSAGE ATTRIBUTED TO ST. IGXATICS.
(4^^ S,vi. 381,478.)
Mb, Tbw does not seem to b* aware that, in
Addition to the seven epistles of St. Igrmtiua
which MO usually accounted genuine, thero are a
number whicb bear his name» but which now are
univer>ally considered spuriouB, Aniou|^st these
j« an epi*tle to the Philippians^ and in tbat wpietle
(chap xiii.) occurs the passage referred to by
Hooker. These sp»mous epistles are annexed as
an a^pp^ndix t< » ihc Writings of the ApmtfiHc
FqUut»^ pubUahed by Messrs. Clark, of Edin-
'iiirph, in their " Ante'-Nicene Chtii^tiaa Librrity/'
id in the introductory notice to them the trans-
rs say :—
•• It w*» A coasidernble tirac before editors ic modem
tim.^ y<y^T\ \ri discriminntc between the true and the
f -^ allributed t? IgnatiuLf. The letters
r <Ier bis name were thoi^e tbr«e whkh
i;. These c?imc forth in 1495 jit PuriB,
I a life of Bci;ket, Anhbi?-ht>p of CEn-
♦ r^(* yeani htcr, elevtti epistJfes, com-
I hy Eusehiii!*, ariLl four othersi,
,, and passf'd tlirouji^bi four or live
. ■■ ... whole of the profc&««d)y Ij^imtian
published at Coloj^ne in a Latin Vfr^ion ;
f)on also passed through several editions.
7 that the Iirnatinn epifltJes aptx^Ared
I ti Greek ut Dilliut'in After tbijs date,
t.-ue forth in which the probftbly j^enuiDR
^ ixed up with the ccrtaitflly spurious* tb«
' I'-lter* only being rejected a^ dc-ntitute of
fl::i ;» rj [;, . \ edi'tiu* of'Cicn-vA ftrst mnde the distinction
»hieh in'iiow niuvtr<.illy incepted, in an edition of tbeise
epistlta which h'^ pub]i*iLt<l in 1C23 ; and he was fol-
\o^n<X bv iVrirhbi^bop U^ht^r and others, who entered
n»'>'i' folly intotJiat critical exuminatiun of these writlnga
^bidi has be«n contioueil (bmn even to our own day/'
A.
■kto]
Mb. Smite's logic is refreshmg. Let me flujrgest
tirtt he write, in some conspicuous place in his
itad?* is very larjxe letters, Vave ^* pctiiionem
t,r ,.-^^,;" j^ ui^Y act as a ch«-ck flgainat the
» of tbe wnrsf, though not the moat
^ ;.,,;. of all fttilnriiis, lu his obli^inpr paper
httmi aMnmea it as an evident fact that I unow
nnthiag of **the epistle to tb^* Pliilippiantj which
nroieites to he tbe work of Ignatius/' and then
wiltieei the, to Mm oum mmd^ necessary conclusion
tbat my opinion '^ would carry more weight "that
** Ij^natiiis wrote bo epistle to the Philippians.*'
What kind nf reasoninir thU is I wot not. To
reverse the cast*, it might just as well bt* naid that
a man's ** opinion would carry more weight ** who
should declare tbat the decretal epistles attributed
to St. Clement are fork's ries, if he knewsoruvthing:
of bis pi^enuine epistle to the Corinthians. Further,
Mn Smith asdert« that " Hooker's quotation U
quite correct.** 1 assert that it is not, ** I copy/*
says Mr, 8mith, "the sentence in full.*' From
what book? may I be allowed to ask. For in
thia eopi/ tbe words toi^ nii<rxa appear, but in
Hooker (Clxford, 1841) they do not, eitber in tbe
text or tiie foot-note. So much for Mr. SMlTtl's
accuracy.
To Mk. E, Marshall I tender my best thanks.
His few remarks (anticipated^ as be will see) are
cbaracterised by the moderation and good temper
which it is so pleasant to meet witb, but against
which some do so grievously offend.
As to the character of these epistles, but a very
small amount of tbe critical faculty will be needed
to tbe formation of a right judgtnent. Forgery is
tm the face of them, and few who have read them
with any attention will have much objection to
endori*e the following statement ; —
**yeri§imi1e non est, eaa Eusebiuni, st ejun mvo ex-
stitijiaeDt, latere potui^so, aat ab eodem, si ipsi co<^nitUf
esaent, prscteriri ; m.'deiiain| quia vel ob modum loquendi,
nb Ku^ebianis mult urn dbcrepantes apparent^ vel ob ma-
tedani do€irinw,inatitutifl et moribos poaterioris Erelesiir
ma^ia coasona;, et l^uatianis Huaebio memoraU^ &cda
imitatione, caque nimis afff*c tat (l, aim ilea."
Htceniioritm Judicia dc S* Ign* EpuL^ xxxiv,
CjulieU Jiiob^ on
Edmund Tew, M,A.
Patchiog Rectory, Arundel.
It is not un suited to tlie notes which have ap-
peared on the epiatle to the PbilippianS| called
** of 8. Ignatius/* to st«te in what manner the
collections of his epistles are to be regarded.
There are : —
L The shorter recension of the seven epiatles,
which are commonly kn<iwn as the genuiin*
epistles, which is the one in Jacobs on *s and
Iiefele's Patres A/wtt. and other recent collec-
tions.
2, The longer, or interpolated, version of the
seven epistles, often cited by early writers,
ti. TheSytiac version, with English translation
of three of these, with collected extracts from
other?*, published by Cureton, Loud. 1845,
4. The eight spurious epistles, three of which
are only found in Latin. Of these eight Hefele
observes: ** Unsnimi doctorum consensu spuria
habentur.'' (Patr. Apod., Tubing. 1847, p. xliii.)
The whole collection, except the Syriac, viz,^
tbe shorter recension, t\ve \ou^^i ot \u\«t^%N^A>
40
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«kayiL Jax, 14/71.
and tho spurious epi
edition of 1. Vosauf, A
1680.
be seen iu the
' s reprinted Lond.
EdW. MAJU>ffALL.
>rtTR.U. PAlKTfNG nc STABSrOK CHCRCH,
NORFOLK.
(4'* S. Tt. 542, 577.)
I hftve no wish tn Le coDtentious : but the
subject of tlii« pAiritiii^ is too interesting to be
left tindecided ; and I 8«e fts yet no n/Ason to
chan^u my opinion. G. A. C. cilJs attention to a
iWiire in the painting, upon which, he says, I
madi^ DO obaervation, but it did not escape my
notiee, lie obseirea that —
'• <>vi*r the bead of the dying or deceased per^oQ ii held
*': Imt Jill hcmldic ^hk^ld, the amw ufjun which
*'i itdy too intlifrlinct to he accurately dc-
The Arms, na well n^ can 1>e mide out, appear
to lii^ lliose of SftwtTw or Sal trey Abbey id
Uuntitfg'doiiahire, to which the adrow^ouj. of
8ever,«il churches in Norfolk were granted, and
the ahbot of which held manors and lands in the
county. But whatt'ver arms vrere on the fihield
b, in my opinion, of no importance towards the
elucidation of the painting,
I am more and more ci>nvineed that it rt*pri*-
aents the death of the Blessed Virgin 3Iary. Two
angels are carry in;^ up her soul to heaven : no
snch presumption of immediate beatitude could
have been entertained of any ordinary individual,
however ennobled by worldly honours. In the
next place, as I mentioned, I have fioen various
old representations of the death of the B. \, M.
more or less agreeing with the one at Staratou ;
and, at least, two such are in my own po^«f>ssian.
One of these remarkably coincides: having the
three privilef^ed Apostles, SS. Peter, Jtimes, and
John, close to the bed, and St .Tohu. m here,
weariny' n cope, and extending hii^ bauds over the
bed. In the other, the same three are gtandiiig
in the mime po.^ition ; St. John, always distin*
jruiBhable by his juvenile appearance, and here
also wriirlci',' a cope and chisping his bun da. These
are both woodcuts of the fifteentli century.
I >*a]d that I attached no importance to the
heraldic shield. If we miike the very allowable
supposition that some patron or distinjjui-jhed
person was interred beneath the recess, aud that
this paintiDg was executed as a pious memoiial
over his tomb, the whole will, I think, be satis-
factorily explained. The B. V. Mary has* just
deptirted. St. John holds a family, or conventual
coat of arms towards his adopted'holy Motbt^r, to
implore her intercession for the owners of the
arms, or the soul of the person interred beneath ;
and St, Peter holds a scroll, on which the in-
scription seems to have been ** Precor te Maria.*'
mal&
tte<^
eotiB
le qIH
Thf last word is still plain ; but on any other suo-
|)osilion, bowcould it be appropriate ':' ' The femala
tigtire, whom G, A. C. supposest to be eoronett
has reidly no coronet, but merely an ornament
head band. She is, in my opinion* only one
the holy women attendant^ on the B. VirjrLn, per
haps meant for Seranhia, who was dlsUntrui§hed
as the wife of ono ot the members of the Sanhe-
driui, and of whom tradition reports that
of about the same age as Mary, and had bee
and clo-ely c:>nnected with the Holy ^
Thore h one object standing before the head
the bed, which I cannot explain, because so littl
of it remains. It looks like a pede^t^U^ and
have supported a lamp, or chafing-dish, as the
an» what appear to be flames at the top.
I take this occasion to correct a mistake I ^
when the drawing was first sent me. I too
hastily pronounced the coped figure to be Sl^j
Peter*: hut there can be no doubt that it t^pniH
sents St. John. F. C. hS
P. S. The misprinting of a single -word is
sometimes of mucu consequence, and therefore I
mun request the readers of '♦N. k Q/* to con ^
in their copit^s the misprint ot the end of
article (p. 542). of the word hand. It ought 1
be heail The bond would be of no value tow
making out the figure intended, but the
would be most important. Unfortunately neiti
remains.
In a chromolithograph of this paiutin;r whicll|
have seen, the following letter?? are qmt** pi
PROCE. then a hiatus occupyiug the space of
letters, then a longobardic' N with the atru _
stroke prolonged upward and surmounted by^
cross-strnlkO as if for NT, then K. then the woT
MARrA, L f'. proce[i>k]ktr haku. It caon
possibly have been prceor U, unless* the artist ]
drawn upon his imagination for three characto
which are wry distinotly ahown in the cbron
lithograph. J. T. M
N. Kclsej', Bri^»
RoscoK'ft *' Novelists' LinuART *' and Gforgb
CitiriKsHAXK iV^ S. vi. C43, 426.)— Mr, Wtxii
U substantially correct in what he says as to
George Cruikalmuk*s <!onnei'tion with this work^
but he is in orror iu supposing the stories to
consist of mntft^tni volumes, which is cxjmplete
in seventeen, or those illustrated by the artist
above-named. It was Mr. Roscoe*s first intention
that the designs for the entire aeries should be
executed by Strutt ; but, regarding theee as a
failure, he ' renounced his connection with that
artist on the issue of the second volume, com-
mencing dinavo with the designs of George Cruik-
shank. The two volomes illuatratad by Strutt
were not henceforward intended to be reckonad
4«^6.VIL Jax.14,^1.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
41
SA any portion of the series. Thia ia pldn from
tilt asmouncfjmeDt cited by your correspoudent
**1Sbml he, G. Cruikfihank^ * i'seugnged to iUustrattj
tlie whoie terif^' " which could otlicrwise poesesa
xto eigmUcftuee; and it explains the appart^nt
monialy of two ^rst iind two second vmumes.
Buliw UbfiM excre^eDceSfRoocoe*? '^'NovHlIdts' Li-
InsT?* in tUe view of its <xlit<jr Tbomrtis Hnecoe,
fcted of iw^vpnteen volumes, tlie wliMe of
tioii^ were iilustrat^^i by my
liiink. J. C, KoGER.
lii Nauch in Ireland (3'''* S.t>rtwi>ji;
", 42'!.)— Stiittrt's Armatjh { Svo, Kc?wry.
l'<V:)f p. 201) atatea from Veaey's Statutes^ p. 29,
that in —
Hi.'-
t'lat every Irishman -wlio
in the counties of DabliD,
. ..;Idare, should b€ appardlud
:i, and frbauld fihavc tbe beard
ike an EogUeiU sumanv' derir«l
wttiiLX lionj J I ^vii, n rulour. on art, fldenoe, or offifc,
Etofv ntr derived innnv fiimilj nAinefl, such as Sutton,
Gbitlcc. Trim < M = ! I I If k, Brown, White, Smith, Car-
Hater* Cook, Karnes thus ndoptf'd were to
UtriffwmiUf ^y oodcr p«:n;itty ol f<irlVitur^ of
eood^lkc. Ihe .MucanirabbAiis became Soil lb, the GeaU
WidtE,- t€^
W. P.
*'Goi> itAJ>E Mas," etc. (4*»» S, ti. 345, 42G,
' " ^' replies wliicb your learned corre-
C. H, and Dr. Dixon Lave kindly
query remiecting tbeae quaint lines
•/ ^worthy — tlie fonner 8s showing that
ilii . ». ^. .. peculiar to any one county, and the
litte; for tbr rerereminl feeling with which tbey
iMir to have been y-easured up by the IJurbam
eoukr. It tv^ma probfible that they originated
imongst the niinpTs, iov the version of the lines
ilip|)li^ by 1>IL Dtxox — and evidently the most
oomct of the three given — uuuiistakeably implies
M murh ; and the ffict of their being' popular
witli the pitmen cf the North, and my noaring
tea in th<? Stattbrdahire colliery district, tenda
tlio to support thia suppasiti^n. May I inquire
igaia. havp niiT of voor readirs ever seen them in
|iint before ? ' ' F. S.
Tlir Aijvijrr Hnnr r4*»' S. vi. 112.)— The cor-
JWpOfidtrl r the Simdaii Tunes, May, iJiTO, has
iid? I loriu^ itatetiient concemin;^'^ the
*»»*■ ij. "^llelmsJey'' ia an adaptation
4^tt : a song beginuing —
fi ao;r^U now protect me,
hcs\ti lo me the youth I love/'— »
tm2 Iv
Ann Ciitl^ V iu The Golden Pippin, a bur-
:: Garden Theatre, Feb, (5,
\ n a celebratt'd octree and
^ii^^. ii* Memoir n (a very curiocis
Jttiehook^ J iubroas), is now before me,
Ta$ tune b»i^i»-ri poptilar, and 'was converted
^^ A hornpipe by Buioe playhouae muaician, and
into a hymn-tune by aome zealous low-churdi-
inau I Vtilf^arity^ and consequent untitness for
devotional purposes, ia the strong chnracteriatic
of tlaa still (1 urn eorry to say) popular tune,
Edward F. Rimbault.
*• HiERusALHir ! MT HAPPiE IIome!'' (4**» S.
vi. 372, 485.)^As a supplement to the hifltorj' of
this **sfing'' or hymn, U maybe stated that u
copy in broadside vvill be found in the Rawlinsor
Collection of Balkda (4to, />G6, 107) in the Bod-
leian Library, It U etuitledr The true dcuu-ipUm^
nf the t'Vt'rUtstinff iot/s of Jft^aiien, To (hr tune cf
0 tnati in desperation. In two parts, nineteen
stanzas of uight lines (so by no mffiaia in nn abhre-
riated form), black lett<?r, two wt>odcut^. ** Printed
for F, Coles, T.^Vere, aful J. Wright (between
U)60 and 1070). It begins thus : —
•♦ J<rru»&lem, my happy hnme,
When fihxdl I come to tbeo ?
Whuii Mhall mj* sarrowa have an en*t ^
Tby joys when shall 1 snyj ?
Wbcffc happy harbour Ls of saint.
With sweet and pl<?aaxnt nayl;
In tht'c no sorrow ever fouf^d,'
Xo grief, no cane, no toyl."
Wu. Cjiaitsll.
**PiG8 MAT Flt,'' etc. (4^ S. tS. 321, 30a) —
1 did not intend to claim this proverb as an Italian
one. I meant nothing more than that I met witk ,
it in Italy. I had never bt^rd it in Enpflnnd. I
However, it appears to be wt*U known. What ia
tbo Eiirrli^h form? I wbh that Mr, Addis liad
given it. The .same proverb?* are «o widely dif-
fused, that it ia impoaaible to tiit locality,
Stephen Jackson.
When I was a ** mid*' in one of Green a ships,
a fihipniate from Worcestershire (Chipping Nor-
ton^ I believe), when a^^ked to do anything he did
not wi-sh to, would frequently reply by sajnng:
" Pigs mwht fly, but theyVe very unlikely birds,"
F, H. D,
Bolivar, Mi^^sissippl, W. S.
Sm Thomas Brov^tje: ArchkiVs Court (4»^
S. vL4(3, 2BB.)— HiiBted, Ireland, and the other
Kentish historians, all speak vaguely of the owner
of Archers Court, who passed it to lioa&e. They
say, Sir Thomas BrowirL% or Mr. Thomas Browne ,
of Loudon, Thomas Broome, &;c. It is to be 1
regretted that Mrs. Hilton has not settled the
matter by responding to Mr. Elsted's very useful
suggestion. I have seen in Doctors' Commons
the will of Richards Rouse, Sen., 1706; which, I
think, is conclusive. He says : —
*^ 1 give, &c. in trust, 4rc Whitfield or Ar<?ber*8 Court,
bought by nie of the Kcv. Thomns Bn>«i»»e, his wife
Elizuhfth, and WtUiAm Broume, Esq., to my daughter ,
iUTra Striager, wife of Fhiueua Strioger,*' ko..
The name therefore is Broome, and not Browne
at all, ^^T8L\^^.
42
NOTES AND QUERIES.
li'bS.TILJAsr. 14.71.
The iRisn Planxty (4*»> S, vi- 300, 512).—
I bftve always heiurd and imderatood it to hiiTe
"been a harp Air of a g^rand and elerating character.
It min^lea the most pAsaionate ^rief for wroncr
inflicted on clan or kindred with the tierc<}st de-
nunciation of the wronirdoer. It celebrated n,
Tictory and the virtues of the victor chief. It
was the nuptiEil aong of a royal hero's bridal, or
the revenireful and defiant strain upon his fall in
battle. When Ireland became at leng"th consoli-
dated under English rule, and the fightings of the
native sept.*? and clans was done away with, the
plnn:cty n^sumed a convivial character ; and any
l^eatleman of old standings in the country,
whether of Irish or Eng-lish descent. Catholic or
Protestant, who kept a pood cellar^ larder, and
pack of hounds^ and who had m^t an opponent,
once at least in hia life, in fair light, with «word
Of pistol, was sure to have a planxty dedicated to
his name ami honour by I ho peripntetic hard or
harper who took the jolly squire iti his rounds,
and received the cpad miiif fmkhe (hmidred thou-
sand welcomes) of Iri^^h hospitality m loiig^ m he
chose to stay. Of such modem celebrations, the
mo»t notable, and the readiest to refer to, as
having been adapted by Sir John Stevenson
to some of the most baautiful of Moore's versea,
are Planxtv Kelly, Planxty Connor, and Planxty
Sudley — the la^t - mentioned having" beeu an
indubitable Saxon. Like the Norman Geraldines
of A former afre, who intermarrii^d amoni^st
the natives and cultivated the ^od opinion
of their adopted country, he pitched his tent
on some pleasant spt/t of the ^* Golden Vein,"
and making himself and everyone who had
to do with him happy and comfortable, be-
canae "more Irish than the Iri^h themselves."
Oafolan's best air was a planxty, which he cam-
posed in honour of a Welnhman (Bumper Squire
Jones) during' a visit he made to the Principality,
in return for the generous consideration with
which the most celebrated of Irish harpers wag
treated not only by that particidar host, but
wherever he went among,st the descendants of the
Cimbri. The witUf drriiatur of *' planxty '^ I have
often heiird discussed, ^ome deriving it from the
Greek TrAa7icTe$s, vagrant, wandering, &c.^and others
firom the Latin plnnrttts, the noise of the tem-
pestnons waves dashing upon a rock-boand coaat,
to which more than one ancient poet has likened
the roar of human voices in battle or tumult.
The secondary and more popular meaning of
pliinchijSf as we all know^is a plaint or complaint ;
but 1 Itave never heard of any keen or coranach or
purelv funeral song of the Irish having been
called n planxty. 1 believe that the derivation of
the word from the Latin or the Greek does not
hold good, as the Celtic i» of an older stock than
either.
The Kktght of Intshowbis'.
Lh^td s Irish MSS. (4^*' S. vi. 387, 516.V
The Sebright >(SS. are well known in Trinity Cn]
lege, Dublin. The old pre^^ji-marks are 11. 2o
and H. fM-7l iuHusive. Thej?e MSS, were h
queathed by Sir John Sebright, near St Alban
to the provost, fVlfows, and scholars of Trini
OoUege, Dublin. The Rt. Hon, Edmund Burki
one of the executor.^ of Sir John, caused them
be delivered to thi* U oiveraity, having first sni
mitted them, accordinjr to the desire of the tesf
tor, to the perusjil nnl examination of trenei
then Colonel, ^'allaueoy. They were boue^ht
Sir John, and had beeu the property of Edwai
Lhwyd. B. E. N
[We shall be glad to receive from B. E. N. lome no!
€\t' tbeso MSS. for insertion in the colamna of*' X. & <,;
Ep.]
Post Prophecibs (4^^ S, vi. 370, 396, 4^.
I saw in Chambers'/* Journal a curious string .
prophecies, each beginning *' I would not be,
The only one I remember was, *' I would not be
king in '48." I cannot remember if I saw
before or after that year, and I have no meao»
referring to the book now. Can any of your
respondents kindly tell me if, like the one m*
tinned by E. L. S., it was made after the event
Also, if there was any other prediction woi '
notice in it ; and how far the dates extended inl
the century ? L. C.
Indkxes (i^^ S. vi. 434, 513.)— There are soi
books the utility of which is quite destroyed
want of good indf^xes. I believe that in aevi
cases it would pay to print them. Suppose a
to advertii?e that he would publish an index (i
to Rush worth's Hisforical Colic ctioju), if he coi
get a hundred subscribers at a guinea eao1i|
imagine the money would be forthcoming.
K. P* D,
**It'b a far Cry to Locn Awe" (4^'' S.
605,) — Your corre^pondeut will find the legei
connected with this enyijig, unla'^s I mi-^Lakr,
Hammertou*s Fahiter^n Camp in the Hufhhtnds,
A.M. B.
Lake Dwellings on Lough Much (4*'' S-
309.) — ^ Since WTiting my query a-* to the
dwelling in Lough Much. I have found the accoi
given by Lubbock, in his work on PrehUti
Man of the Irish ** cranoges'* ; but 1 am
anxious to hear something of the date of
island I described. While fishing there, I h(
from a man who farmed some fourteen aci
several interesting instances of folk lore, found(
on the belief that the lalce was haunted. Thi
he told me that when a boy, fishing with oth^
boys and young men, with baited lines left in
water for tiah to hook themselves, they v
startled when standing near and talking by hi
ing a crash, as if a whole crate of crockery
been thrown down, about three vards fn>m thi
4>»»& Vri, Jas. 14, '71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
43
in the lake. AH, youn^ men id eluded, were so
frightened at this freak of the water fftiries, that
iheT ran away, leaving their lines in the water,
and did ni>t dai-e to reluni for the day. vVnother
♦»tor5 which he evidently connected with the
^upematuml, though he did not aay so in so many
wnrdi^ was that of a young man who found a
f^ilTer 8word on the ialand I have spoken of.
Wh^n wading hack, he found the ground so soft,
that to li^hWn himself he pitched the sword from
him forward on to the shore, where it split up
2ulo fingmenU too small to he picked up, A third
utory was told of an island in a neifjbhouring lake,
which WAS Covered with trees well suited for
hoe and spade handles and the Uke ; yet, though
it woa ea*y to wade to the island, no one would
cat one nnd incur the certainty of heiug drowned
in returning, even in two feet of water I He added
ihat when boughs were hroktn oil' and drifted to
aborts no one wiiuld use Uieui even for fire-wood,
r fear of ill-luck.
i!if«*rmant also showed me a field, now
by hiui, in which his predecessor kept a
mare which he never took to the town or market.
She, howrvrr, became in fonl by the agency of
the w , or otters, as some said. I think
f his lo ; ' Ided on account of some supposed
iiiiu ou my part, but the choice of agencies
me as curious. The end of mare and foal
^Aas, however, tragic, both being drowned at dif-
ferent time.^ (by fairy agency, as was hinted) in
the lake, the former in the Very shallowest part
i)f it, in only two feet of water.
A lad who waa about with us a good deal gave
toe what was to me a new version of St. Patrick*a
^ ..L :_ i-.j^mj. tIz., after telling nie a number
; good people, suggesting a doubt as to
i«. .4 -fcic^^DCe, and asking if I believed iu them,
la h0 had b^n told that St. Patrick had driven
them aU out of the ialand I A. M. B. A.
Or. Johkson (4'** S. vi. ^fjfi/) — Il^iplying to my
'jwn quf-ry h>« to the authorship of a Life of Dr.
hhnhon, published by C* Kearslev, IT^o, I have
*i:ice found, I think, suftitnent evidtMice to show
tbat it was written by Thomas Tyers. Bos well
somewhat contemptuously, to a sketch of
l''.(Ttnr's life by Tyers (" Tom Tyers," as he
d bv JohuBou), as *' an entertaininjr little I
'.- -I'l'm of fragments*' (ed. 1823, iii. 310); md
' >ivttch" IB the word used by tho author in bis
prtfiice to the volume printed by Kearsley. ,
f'" ;' ih'-. : forence is made in Johtisotiiana i
i . to a biography by Thomas Tyers,
ii^^il ID ITrvi, which the author is said '*very '
' tly to call a sketch '*; and as I do not find
^ a J other account of the Doctor was pub-
i in that year, I think the authorship of the
^Juie is clearly established. .
Mi< Thomas Tyers, it will be remembefed, was i
the son of Jonathan Tyers, ** the founder,** iis
Bosweli says. " of that ejicellent place of public
amusement^ Vauxhall Gardens.*'
Charles Wtue.
"As Cold as a Maid's Kijee'* (4«»» S. vL 495.)
This and the saying about a dog's nose always
being cold are common in the west of Scotland.
When Noah was in the ark it sprung a leak, and,
according to a doggrel song —
" He took the dog*d nose to sto[> up the hole.
And ever since then it's b«en wet and cold."
Will. M*lLt7iuiTH.
A NuRsKRT Tale (4»'» S. vi, 4£)a)— A story
iu its cast and incidents re.^embling that related
by AVm. E. A. Axon will be found in Chambers'
FoptUar Mhymvs of Scotkntl,
Will. H'Iluraith.
Negbo rBovERBS (4*" S. vi. 494.)— Allow mc
to make one correction in M. C. K. L. A.'s list of
** Negro Proverb a,'* and to send you an additional
proverb. No, 10 is thus given in Jamaica^ of
which island I am ii native : —
" Buckra dey in a trouble, monkey coat fit him,**
and
*' Hock a tone dr>' in a ribber bottom, him no feel «ua
hot.'*
The $ in Jamaica is seldom eaunded j " tone '*
for stmie.
*'■ Man in prosperity knows not the bittemesa of ad-
versity,"
aeems to be the idea of the last.
H. A. HtrsBAJin.
Smijth (4*^ S. vi. 474.)— The Saturday Hevicw
need scarcely, I think, have taken the trouble to
inform its readers that the suniame of the author
of the Commonweaith was written Smjfih us well
iisStnith in Elizabethan documents, Of course it
was ; and I do not think that the form Sfmjth
will be found in any *' document '* older than the
eighteenth century/ In fact, less than a century
ago, the name of this par tic ulur family wfUi Smyth,
and a sbort time previously^ plain Smith*
The author of the HvFaiHry of Smith simply
records the fact (page 2) that ** this family now
write their name Smijth'*; and there is no doubt
that he considers it a modern attempt to veil,
imder an afi'ected orthography, a good old English
surname.
But if, as Sr. states, a // was, in old MSS.,
double- dotted, Smijth is analogous to Ffolliott
and Ffarrington, both of which are " orthographical
errors.'*
I have soma little acqtialntanoe with MSS. of
the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, but I do
not remember to have met there with an example
of a dotted y. Can Sp. be correct ? The example
he gives (Mary) I should take to be the genitive
of MarittB; the so-called double-dotted %
NOTES AND QUERIES.
pti«S.VlL Ja^. U/TU
1>emg realfy ij, juet m I^ who am n pKysiciRn,
condtantlT express in my writtea pregcriptinns the
numeral 2 by ij, and 7 by vij» 8 by Tiij, ka.
A a to the orthoepy of this uiici>uth name, wby
I fear it IB but SmUh afttsr all.
Mr. Lower's tha«y will be found in bli
Futrmitfmiva Britamtica, The orig'in suirgeated
by his ** fftcetioua ftieiid " really appiora to me
more plausible than ibaL propoimded bv 8i'.
SlOiriTART A^D SiGNATAKrES (4**' S. Tl. 50l3.)
I tfUBt tbat, should this meet the c^ye of Lord
GranTillo, he %vill excuse me for obaervinff that,
when I first saw tbe adjective *^ signitary '" in his
reply t> the Rusaian note, it struck me that the
^ord was new. However, it seema g^od in itaelf ;
*^ dabi torque licentia sumpt^a pudenter.'^
Keitber it, nor the " signataries ■ * of the Tablet j
appear either in Johnson or Hicbardson's diction-
aries, though the latter ia very full on connexions
with the word " sign/' The rare word ** signa-
turiats,*' given in both, looks like the nearest ap-
proach to the term ; but it will be found to have
rather a philosophical meaning, as in Bacon,
Brown, and other old wi iters, than one at all cor-
lespontling^ to ita uae in reicrenoe in tJioao who
may sign a document. Fraslis TflEXcm.
lalip Rf?L'lory, Oxford.
Old Song i ** Gooby Bottleiv Aj.e " (4** 8. Tt.
.501.) — I think the version of this rboma as I
have often heard *it ^* roai'ed out*' by boya in the
Midland Counties, full sixty years ago, more cor-
rect than Db, 1>ixon*s :. —
** Goody Burton*3 alo
Ool into my nr>tl»ile;
Bein^' strong ant! paU%
ll nmdo mc widdle woJdlf/*
I never supposed it a chorus, but t\m whole
song. I never heard more of it. Ellces.
ScHOOtBOT WoRPs* (4** S. vi, 415, 517.)— The
origin of the schoolboy phrase ** Bags '' or ** Bags
I " is clear enough. It evidently carriea with it
the idea of getting into one*9 possession or into
one's bag the object in queation. Thus one talks
of having " bagged '' ao many birds, Sic,
**Fains " or " Fain it," a term demanding a truc^
dtiring the progress of any gome, I should be
catJier inclined to spell "fdgn it/* expressing a
desire for a temporary ce.Hsion of the game for hpre-
tenc0^ as opposed to the <*am<'sf?iea« with which tbe
game bad until then been played. Gaston Fka.
Unir. Coll. LcudRti.
Key to «Lb Grani> Cybiib'', (4»^ S, vi. 387»
510,) — George de Scudt^ry, whom laaac Disraeli
call^ ft Bobadil of lit*?rature, was bom at Havre
de GrAce in 1601. After pome years of literary
su'tivity he was, at the solicitation of the Mar-
chioDeas de lUmbouillet, appointed by Hielielieu
to be governor of Kotre Dame do la Garde, a J
fortress in Pmrencc, srituate on a high rock Dear]
Marseilles, A witty author sRys of this appoint-^
ment : —
*Gon-
A.,
Vn . .
Pciut i'jJ l\
' f't Iiea«,
thel
Jhs Scudery ii* known as a Toluminoua po?tj
and the author of several theatrical pieces of aon
merit in their dav. but now quite forgotten. 1I|
diod May 14, 16(57,
llis di'ster Magdalen was bom in 1607, and di
June 2, 1701. She was a person of greater M
than her brother.
The first part of Le Grmd Cifrtis was ]i - !'
in 1650, but the latter part did not app
some years afterwards. It is stated
edition that I have seen to be written ♦* par j
t*ieur de ScudtJry/' and is dedicated to Mada
Longueville, the sister of the great Co
person intended to be described under
of Cyrus. The work is supposed to be the Join
production of the brother and raster, but i '
little doubt that his part of the work ^
small. Their contemporaries always at
the book to the sister, notwithstanding that
title-page bears the brother's name. I have
Monsieur Cousin^s work to refer to; but, if I
member rightly, he attributes the work to ~
demoiselle de Scud(Sr\\
Speaking of Mademoiselle de Scud^ry, M4
fays : —
"M, de Marobi nevotilnit pimqiiWlA cnH fiiit
Cvrtw m la Clelict parceqiu' CC5 ' , ■
'^\K\h le noin tic M, deSiuUcry. jl
diijuioii, m'a dit qnVlle n*i \ftA ^^
I ScTidtfry ra*a a»ur^ que cVtok Iwy nai ]<•* 4V4i
I jKi^ii-x. Et nioi, lui dis-je, j« vona ftfj^uru que c'^
d»,"moiadle dc Scudcn^ qui lo5 n iViit? t et j<? le say '
I If any reader of ^^N. & Q/^ can tell us wbe
to find a perfect and cxmiplete key to the wud
I he will be conferring a favour on one who eppn
elates the work for, what it was meant to be, j
description of contemporarv manners.
GRAXTttAjt: Blubtowx (4^*" S. vi. 475.)—!
political autocrat of this borough. Lord
tower, was himself known by the s<^
*^ Blue Billy/' JoEM imuij*
Bir.mnghara.
KiUK Saxton (4^^ S. vi. :387, 440, 500.)— I^
San ton is a small hamlet, parish of Irt^jn, Cn
berland, whose soil is of a light sandy d^scrip^
tion.
Downham San ton or Sandy, Suffolk, in
was nearly overwhelmed by an immense di
sand from the Lackenheath Hills, five miles ^>^m
tant.
Tbe soil nf San tor. Hou^, Lincoln, is sandy.
4*8.Tn. Jas. 14, TL]
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
;Dton» CnmberlBBfl, is supposed tohnve
J - Dam*? fn3in a circular pie^:e of water
400 feel m d!ftm*?tt?r, which corors the ruins of a
cliurch. Kirk xSantou, with its appurtenancps, was
graut^^d by the Doyvill family to the Abbey of
St- MflTT in Fumess.
Kirk S-ontnn, l^h of Man, is described as a small
Tillage of a mg-ged surface, near Kirk San ton
Head.
SjiDflwicbei Keut» is described by William
Ljuu liardt* (An Alphaltctknl DeAcrifdion of Eng^
kmd m\(i WaU'A, Lond. mdccixi. ^12) **to hare
got lb«? name of the Lipht Sande."
^Saattakc, L L<irut Saiutulnh. Xeair to Battd In
Sqimcs, I* i\ n.i* c aamciil Santlok^f wbich th« Pecrple of
the Co I lo thi» Dave imagine to be so cnlled
oC th< f Bli>ud that ranne tbearc after the
r\i liiu;iu r.iorne the Conqtieroar and Harould,"—
Laml»firJ<*, Idtm 350.
8aj>jgiitt% Kent —
-'njr n*m>. fif the vilta^H i* derived from iU aitqntion
at . n. ' '\u, r!, .; ..r -,,,- of the KA tio frcfjuefit aJon^
l\ ^n<ly nature of the M)il ga
^\. 1. Gitirttftr,
L'HAILLES VlVIAIft
41, EfedartooSqtiArt, &\V.
Bjibc»^ Belt^ (4«^ S. Ti. 475; vii, 21.)— The
dinner poet b FrRncie Quarle*. The lines are from
illi JSmhkmt^ Divitw and Mvral^ book n. No. 8,
Vf^«!^ It f**%Athiog a fretfal earthly Cupid with a
?\ ^ no doubt, a sort of coral). Divine
C ..tL*S —
* Wf n [♦irjk to hcaren, and trnst to hijchcrjojs ;
Let r^inc lore ljK«kb ond children whine for toyB.**
MARfJABET GaTT\'.
TfTT. RtT.ts oy St. l^licif akl*k, Cotbh^try (4*^
^- ' ' ' —These bells were at first arranged in
t' , hut on the tenor bell being cracked
II -vj ;vj ; by Bryant of Hereford, they
*►: il i.r- i:l il tn one level^ and so they still
'< !i' 11 this peal waa first hungrt >t was disposed
I I ir— - V rk resting on the walls of the tower,
I :• r I LI ; ii: ri;;i3r to iho buildinp: being appre-
i. it was res!>lred in 1703, by the advice of
vatt^ the arcliitect, to construct a frame
iind. This Tfras designed by Mr.
1, und curried ont in 1794, at an
the bells bving rehnng in Be-
vtMr, since which timo no mate-
'- n made. At the !?ame period
I Urorouj^'h repair. They
,.^-^ tower by thirty fewt as at
M,' tills nrrnngement may be for
afety to the building
J to bo regretted that
! the internal appear-
v^^r, which was on gin -
iHjF «»p«n to lb« vrrsl enti of the nATe, with which
it
it communicated bj a lofty and beautifully prop<»r-
tioned arch.
A clock smd chimes appear to have hccu added
to the bells at a very early date, for in l4G*>-7
notices of payments being made on their acconnt
are recorded'; and in 1577 '*v' was paid for tym-
ber and makjng the barrell for the chyme," and
in the same vear Henry Bankes was engaged in
altering the ** chyme and settinge hit newe/*
In 1778 a new clock and cliiniea were con-
structed by Mr. Worton of Birmingham at an
expense of 271L Some years ago the chimes were
rearranged and harmoQiaed. Both are nnrler the
care of the grandson of their original maker.
Wm. Geo. Feeitox.
Coventry*.
[Our correvpondeot will 0nd his early particulars nf
these t»cU8 in our 3"» S. ix. 427. 541.]
MABrntt Rose (4**» B.vL 4^,0, 484.)— The rosf^
alluded to by Mr. .Iailes Pkahson is the one I in-
quired about (p. 4«3<1 ). I found it in profusion n* ur
Fleetwood ; but I think that Ilosa ipinaiumma is
not the proper name, and that it is more lik*-ly to
be the Rom rnljcUa, as guessied by J, T. F\ I
know the apmommmn: it is an Alpine j>lnnt found
at a considerable altittide in the Vallais. D'An-
greTille, in his La J^orr Vnllatsanne (Geneva,
18Q3), names it as on the motrntains of Fins-
hauts 4500 feet above the sea. The English
marine rose is certainly entitled to the epithet
'* epinosissima,** but stilf I believe that it is a dif-
ferent plant to the Alpine one — the real 9f>iiwfi^-
mma of Linmeus. This is only conjecture, I
siioiild like to compare the Fleetwood roae with
the Fins- ban ts plant. Perhaps some hotaniat
who hi\A visiti'd tLo Alps may be able to «ny
whether the two roses njre identical. The l^*r^
plant of the British Boiamj (quoted by J. T, I\>
may probably be tlie same us the Lancashire nne,l
but I fim sceptical as to the Fleetwood rn^e l>dn|r1
the Alpine Linnean tpm^tmimo. I fas the Nort h-
umbrian sea-rose been ever examined with ihii*^
Fleetwood one? Cannot F* C. H, throw soma
light on the subject ? Pie knows all the locjilitie^l
above-named.* A MuiaxHiAir.
With regard to the rose inquired about in
*• N. k Q.,'* had I a small specimen or a mort>
njinute description, I could tell the name at once*
But wanting this, I have no duubt that it is tht^
Burnet rose =^ Ro^a ifpt'wfnsnnm = Scotch ro^e*
The latter name is given because it growd plenti-
fully in Scotland. I have found it on the sandy
shores of Wales, from Pembroke to Catfrnarvou.
On the sands it is very dwarf? it is taller inland.
I have found it in Worcestershire. I do not n^-
coUect it in Switzerland ; but it frequently hap-
• ThtJ Rom Atpina^ L. is found nt an altitude of 78^t^
fi»et in the tnonntains of St- BemaKL It is the higheeit
Swiia rngft.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4««'ava, jAs.M.'fi.l
p^DS that ft coaat plant prrows on lofty mountftlas.
Tlie aciiiTj -grass (Cocfiiearin), a commoa sea-
coast plant, in one of its foraui (C aljnna or
framlandica) growd on the dummits of momitJiin^.
have gathered it on the walla of Tenby in
South Wales, and on the suinmit of Ben Lavers
in Scotland. I think that I have ^fathered the
lima spino«Mma in CuiaberUnd. I am cert^iin
fthf>iit Scotland, In Dr, Hooker's **itmlefU'ii Flora
of the British Islt^s it is said to ^ow in Arctic
Europe and in Siberia and North China. The
Mifsa rubeUa, named by J. T. F. (4*^ S. vi. 484),
19 A Terr local maritime ro^e, and Dot at all
likely to he the Lnncdahire rose inquired after by
a brother '* Murilhiftn/' EowiH Lkks, F.L.8.
Gnwn Hill Summit, Wurceatejr,
*Spinoiimma et ruhtUa—ffentili^, — Je voua dirai,
quant a ma maniere de voir» que ccs deux roses
aont dilf^ rentes. La Uoi^n fipimmMsiFtut (Smith,
Enff, Fkr.) croit »ur les cotes incultea du bord de
la mer, De Candollo (p. 00'*) nppelle cette nieme
rose pimpinitlifoiiii* Ello est abondante sur le
Sal^ve, pru^ cle (leneve: je Tai oMmx trouTt^e a
CatOfipie, aur Sembrancher.
Ro«a rttbeUa (Lindley) = i?(j^fl ffentilis (Sternh.)
vient auasi en Suisse, aur le Sal^ve, D'apr^
certains auteur^, ces deux roaes paraissent avoir
beaucoup de rapport et de parent^, au point qu^il
eat dtificile de lei diatinguer. Je croia les avoir^
les deux esp^ced (sprnw^imnia et rtdfelta = gentili^)^
dans mon herbier. G. De hk SoiK, Cur€,
Bovernier,! Suisse,
Sib H. CnEERB, the StATUARt (4^** S.^i. 625,)
1 can mention a place where one of this artij^t's works
may be seen— Mold parish churchy Fliotshire^a
full-length marble atatue of life-size, of whom I
forge L A son of Charle^^ Madryll and Frances
Cheere owna and lives at Pap worth Everard, not
fur ^m Caxton gibbet Uiuesa I am mistaken,
they have no grand^ion, few of the sons having
married. Of the surviving sous, one is registrar
of the Middlesex County Court holden at Clerken-
well: one is a major (retired, I believe, from the
Indian army); another is in holy orders, and in-
cumbent of Little Drayton, Shropshire.
ARMIOEtl.
Thb 62iTn Regtmkkt (4*»' S. vi. 628.)— In De-
cember 17'>5 the 62nd regiment (or Loyal Ame-
rican Provincials) was raised in America. ' In 1756,
in con^quence of the capture of the oOth and 51»t
regimenta at Oawego, the regiment wa« numbered
the 60th. The Act of Parliament sought after by
• An^lux " pirn pern pK** Vidr not43 by Ma. James
Fbarbok of Mibrow, i^^ 8. vi. p. 484.
[f Tiio villHfje of Bo vernier is a short disdmce from
Martlgay, on the St. Bernard route, und our eorreapon-
<kfflt A MuBiTMiAN snyj thnZ his friend, the worthy Cur6
of Dover nii^r, la alwAvs glad to see any botaaJeal tourists
Mnd to ^nve exary liiformAtioit. M* Do U Soifl ipeaks
Kngliali.—Eo.]
Mr. HiOGms, if my memory serves me, waa ei
acted at the commencement of the French rt?Yoli
a
tionary war, to permit Hanoverians to join
02nd, Hanover, by treaty, furnished a contiDgeiit
of 14,000 for life aervice to our army.
F. Datid Briaxt,
Wrong Dates im Ckrtaik Biogiiapiiies (
8. vi. 410.) — In the comaiunication by Ihe Ri
Dr. KooEtts to '* N. & Q." on the aboV« aubji
after stating that he had shown in 18oij that tl
date of the birth of the Ettrick Shepherd on
monly given, viz. Jan, 2o, 1772, c^uld not
correct, aa the parish register proved that he
baptised on Dec J\ 1770, ho goea on to remark]
•* Yet the Rev. Thomas Thomaon, in a mem<
of the poet prefixed to the octavo edition of
works, published by Messrs. Blackie of Glas^i
in 1805, has repeated the original error.*^ ""
following are the word'* of the memoir,
which it will be seen whether the ** original
has been repeated or not : —
" The subject of our memoir wan bom, accon' r - *- '
own account, in 1772, nnd on the 25th ttt
This aasiigned date, however, was probably a
memory, a^t the parish rc^^wter records ois bafiiiaui
having' taken plact- on the 9th of December, 1770,'*
So the Rev. T^t, baa not discovered
but only a mare's nest. Blacjlib & Sojf^
Glasi^ow.
NOTES ON BOOKS. ETC.
Hie NcH} Testamrnt, according to the Authnriimd Vtt
With AnuiyitiB^ Xotes, &.c. (Bftguter & Sous.)
The great aitzi which the eiiitor of tbU edtUofi of I
, New Testament ha^ had in view ha^ bejen, *♦ to i
I volume truly serviccible both for public and private i
I and to put tho En^^Unh reader as far at pO!tsibl« {
I session of the Divine beauties, accumcieft, ped«Gt^
' harmoniofl or the inspired origttial." To detail thei _
merit and modcof printin^^ by which the editor has endol
vourcd to accomplish this important objeet, would be I
trunscribo lilLTally the editor** Introduction, For tH
we have not *paee, and must. there1^>re, confine our^el^
I to the expresHion of our ofiitiion that, in the vtilun
before u?, the Christian reader will find a most inielK*
p^ent and trustworthy guide to the study of the Kew
I Testament.
I Wofidfrfui StoruM from Northern I^ndg, Sjf Jtt
I Goddard, Author of'* The Boy and the Constellntior
I See, With an I nt rod tut ion by the Rev. Giiorgc W, (
M.A., and Sij- H/mdratimuf from Designs fry W.
I Weigiind. Engraved bg C. Pearson. (Longman.)
Clowly a« the popuhir tales of all nations are a1 lid
both in thti hidden imlhs which they veil and the sha^
in which they are presented, thev po&$et9 neverlhdei
an innate fre^shne^ and vitalit}" which serves to give i
air of noveltv to them under every form they may i
sume. The Wok before us inrnii^hes a atrikinj* inni
of Ibis. There is probably not an ineidn * '
stranfTc or starlJinjj, in uny of these " Wond^ r
which has not its cntinterpart in some cogn i
the EaM or of the West, yet as we read tJiem h<
charmed by the spirit of oripnality aod teiue of geouiQ
neas by wbieh they nre characterised ; and we lay {
*»&VIL Jas. «,7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
47
tli« book irith 0 M^ttse of indebtedne&s to Miis GaddAird
for • rtttiiAl leieclicQ of most intcrcstitig popular fictions,
uul to Mr. C<»x for tlie instmctivo and intelligent intm*
dfieUoii which he has prcfixed to thtm.
• Fitriiamrmtarw Record, 1S70, Edited by Charles
(Wide.) , ,
Wfr wwsptex » very IJirgQ per contain, not only of the
' iberi of tJie two Hooves of pMliaraent, but abo of
#pfH:*1lT fntcTCsted in the proceedinpr« of the legi*-
iffViii ijnacqaaintM with thf: rxi-lonL'eof this*
siott II tt> the progress nf le;^i>]iition. Thu
JMittir rd appears from iveek to week, and
tiCb« T; lys stamliog and the new matter i« in-
tiftdoce 1 pw place, tin* Rff*»rfi h nlMrays com-
])lee# ui inent of fill" ■ •« it ia at
<Bfti ar. ^ record of tlj business^
iDd an - - _ aiosl valuall. „.. - . ho are in-
toint^ in Kuch matters.
7U MaidtH and Married Life of Mary Pt%trtU, after-
'^ Mimtrra* Milton. Fourth EditiOH. (Hall & C>o.)
fit S&amkotd </ Si> r/«Ji»«t jVom i^i/JA Edition, with
«■ Appemdije. (Hall dr Co.)
€li^^ e4# OiZ/wr/i'Kr. Fovrf/i Edithn* (Hall dt Co.)
Oirty diMf I'wi/rt: a Tak of tht Great Ptutjae, Fifth
EOl^m, (Hall ic Co.)
^f Pracoeittitm^ of Mudantt Palttsy. Fifth Edition
TII&O**) '
;ul!ufff^s of these admirable little bookj must be
■r the teatimony — ** to the tone of pure
which so tn&ny scenes of past times
arr rriJixrfi - ' ' -- just beott home to them by the
AtthiMbop IT, who ha^ been indebted to
tiMo for ih*^ interest which be^iiruiled iD.iny
hmn ditriDj^ hi» long illness. What nubli»bcr c^jufd
mitL cucuUting «tach evidence of Miss Manning^'a
ParwofeTti'a ^'Ordcnart op BnrTisii Armorials.*' —
Wtdr-t?"^ ' • -r^^^f^ri a mi»9tatcment of which we have
vridrri' uthv, in announcing that this work h
to W r T M r.' VValford , tli e editor of 7'A i? Landed
^nfry. iLi c^jtiLinuan^e b to bo ent ranted to Mr. Pap-
«Htrat«lattiriraDd friend, Mr. Alfred W^Mornnt, F.S.A.,
*W %•• kindir undertaken to prepare the remaitider of
ih^«l%ilia] M^ far« and to eec it through, the press; and
ibai 4|««litleationa for the task arc not unknown to
^ma €t the fubacribers. Kb three- llfths of the work bave
hm piMkuhtA^ and the retnaimkr is complete with tbe
ti.r*ftii.>n ..r n rmrill porUon which requiFos retraiiacribinp
► seem^ now no doubt that the work
* ' ■ e<tmpler»v?, to the great advantage
•f 41 ■ ' fiKJent'*, Those who
f lie remaining Parts
'he l>ook in its com-
t' will he live |roineas)| should apply
worili, F.HJ.B.A., 1.?. Hart Street.
I y of the new Prospectus
» Vr
^mdkhmliM.n
Tllff Wktfit
tfM for titr
•Hp teU a *^'
^ril^ tnoff-
iitW df^|nv4. liri
—Great fcnr» being' enter-
^ matchlc<«^ specimens of
'Uy having declared that
' 1 led, or a c:cH>d storm
ition could eJf« ct," a
Lk'n ha'* bt^eii ftjrmeil
Bathur^t^ and of w!dc)i
Vo.*>5i, Pnrliament Street.
nan is not only
ic iubje-'t tbftt
• re*'eiv« -ub'
Wliilp speaking of these windows^ we may state thi
Mr. 11. F. Holt haa written a paper for the Arehieologica
Aasociation entitled the "Tannes of Fairford/' in whic
he gives the rise and fall of that family from documenttij
hitherto unnoticed, and in which he shows*—!. That .loban
Tanno did not acquire the |>ainted gla^) in 1492 by L*on-
quiist or piracy. 2. That he did no* found Fairford
church, or dedicate it to the Virgin Mary. 3. That haj
did twt rebuild the church, i. That he had nothin^
whatever to do with the painted glass, and never coiiH
teniplated either its purctiano or it^ erection ; and lastly,!
the facts connecteti ivith the acquisition of the windows |,l
by whom given, and when, aa well SlB the drcumstancetT
and motives which induced the donation.
Cork CuvtERiAX and Arch^.ological SociSTy.-^~
An interesting account waa given at the recent meetinfr
of this Society of an ogham stone found, near Macroon,
in an ancient subterranean cliambor. The fragment of
inscription on the stone was translated aw — ^" (Stone of)f J
FEfLiA^A TtiE Son of Cuoi> • • *," and waa believe'
to indicate a burial.
Bodleian LiitRARV. — The donations to the Bodleianl
Library at Oxford during the year ending Nov. 8, 187(>,
according to the eatidogue jujjt*i«sued» comprise seventy*
four works printed at the Boulak PrcAs and prt\s<inted by
his Uighne^Hs the Khedive of Egypt; letters by th^i Ena-
peror Napoleon III., pni»;nted bv his Majesty, and con-
tributions from a number of ua{ver.««itie8 an<i centres of
learning in Knrope and America, lodia and AuiStralia,
Antiquarian Excavations in Itai,y. — Interesting,
excavations are being carried on in various parts of luly, i
especially at th?^ Campo Santo of Bologna, where a stra-
tum of Etruscan inCermenCa has lately been discovered
underneath the mediaeval and modem strata; and also at
the Leuciidian promontory, where Professor Giovanni
Capelini reiwrts thiit traces of cannibalism have been
found.
Society of Antiqitariks of Scotlanh. — This So-
ciety hfljs just been presente^l with the collection of anti-
rjuities of the late 8ir James Y. Simipson, which includes
portions of sculptured slabs fn)m Nineveh.
Albert Barnes D.D. — The American papers record
the sud^len death of thia well-known commentator on the
Bible, at ihe age of seventy-two years.
American Literary Mitn.— Bryant is reputed worth
aOO/>< 0 dollarift made chiefly by journalism. Lon^'fellow
i.s estimated at 20(1,000 dolfarss the gift of Jiis father-in-
law, brides the wry runsiderablc profit of hi-* pf»ems.
Holmes is rated at '10h1\000 dollars, hereditary property,
increaflcd by lecturing and literature. Whittier, who
Wv^h frugally, is worth SO.fKMj dollar!*, inherited and earned
by his popiiijir pen. 8/ixt? is rt'puted worth 70,000 doUurs, \
inherited and earned in law, licturing, and literttture,
Lowell is said to be worth 3(NOOO or 4O;00iI dollar?, here-
ditary, and a«]uired in his chair as professor of Harvard
College, Boker is rich by inheritance, and worth pro-
bably 100,fMK) dollars. Bayard Taylor is n mnn of inde*
pendent property, the protits of his literature and lectur-
ing, and dividends frrfm his Tribimt stock. Verily, a
prosperous set of fellows. — American Paper,
A Shower of Bi^od. — One of those phenomena, so
interesting tru sHentitic men— ^a shower of redcolourcd
rain, occurf' ' ' near Sulphur Springs, Texas, It
la!«ted ft^r t^ eonds, and from the colour of the
drof>8 lias 1 I by the people of the vicinity ** a
shower of UtMHi."
The Book of Cosoion Pratek of 1SS6, witb alt '
the MS. alterations made by Convocation in l^V (^«
48
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*b.S, VH, Ja5. 11.713
Urmft of tbe prB^ont Tenlini diowing tt m gltnce ia what
particuIiLn it diifera fmm the prTvceding edition), and
from which the copy afrpended to tbe Act of Uoifonmty
was transeribed, from which traoa^ript **tbe Sealed
Dook '* of 1662 waa printed, haa been reproduced hrf
Major-General Sir Henrj James's pboto-zliicogr&pbic
procesa. It fonuji an exact counterpart of tho ori^nal
folio volume, and is about to bf published by Mr, B» M.
Piekering with the authoritr m the Stationerr Oftirc,
It ia untiecessan- to say one word aa to tbe importance
of this docnmetit with " reference to tbe biitory of our
Prayer Book.
William SronKr Giitao:!, FAA.— We T«gret to ao*
noance the death on Jan, 3, 1871, of thiA wol^knuwn
bistoilcaj and topograpfaical antiquary, and one of the
earliest contribators to the pajj;es ot ^* i^. & Q./* for two of
liM articles, nnder the initiala W, S. Q^ appeared in the
first Yolamid of out First Series {1849-60). Mr. Gibsox,
who wa* for twenty-eeTen yean Registrar of the Court of
Bankroptcy at Kewcastle-ttpoo-Tyne, was the author of
the following amonjj other worka : — 1. ** Dikton Hail ; or
Memoirs of the Ri^ht Hon. Jam&ia RAdcliffe^ Earl cif
Derweatwater : to which is added A Visit to Bainbnrgh
Castle." 2. " Korthumbrijin Castles, Chorohes, and
Antiqoitieaw"* Three Scri-s. n, •♦The Hjiftory of the Mon-
aatery founded at Tynem(»itth.*^ 4. *'Aq E^any on the
Hiitory and Antiquities of Hiifbgate." 5, **A Memoir of
the Life of Kichard do Bury* Bishop of DniUam," &c
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FNDIGESTION.— THE ^FEDICAL PROFESSlOl
•dopt MORaofTS PREP \t; vtt in of pEPtfcnrr m tba i
6old ill BoHtea an
: , ud the Mill
ll4,ScH]tliamp^ Rov, Rui-^
W»U 1 _ _
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Pik>- -1,
:XOTliS AND QUERIES,
49
X'>jr^Oir, BATVRiiAT^ JAJVAHT U ti*TL
cox:
TnO.
Qupeti,'M9-\Vesl
' -..lifiil J\inMm!H. ',1.
London, iis / thitik nn the ^outliern or lOaitbh
aUlo of tilt! river. I have shown tLrtt the m«>«t
trimnes:-
dormital \\
^J> iy 1 "
•flTtu" of mndcmb -
1SKAL ff^HWN^ TN « THE FAEKm QL^EN.**
: thnt all JB all •-•{Tory in the first
waV| that Guv on
iiv tarl of Wor-
, .^olied-cr OSS Knight
' renowned in ronninise
Iriatjoii nf his ohftrac-
- itI' thf p jetii, we
^ rt'ttl fbitnK't^r —
Ut Usr ill-
n, the jx»v't asi^iirus
«^ vto m*
- '^a most \ii'tuou8 '
mA lifiAUtt
TW qii?
iu
he first pnrt nf tlie poem wir '
nth yenr, and
fMMi^Sd,
Wit'.
^iis "9^^
r#kftf^
th'
iption of \\ie
r«ni
Ijjtijjbe, we ttiii^^it T>*^
•S^
fiuioni;'' tijow Mditluturs
■ ■' .■ ■'. -,v ,. j.h«
«ii r
-uld
^lim ;r;>
U8l*<'!»
r'j»*'ir rr tv'.'.h unrn jirni n\<.-*d in
i^or of kia binh wa^ tho year L>r>l,
qg^ him when Jiftecn or mx teen year* of
MiLvc often seen tlie queen^ who was then w©
iv in her |>rimt% ridiiifi* hs she aUviiye did
■■• ^'■" -^tMi^»« i»f I. -■ ■■' "-■^:-^')y in
to her fu\ hu-
„,. .i . . ....... ..iu d^ipr in l„ . ^ ,,,,..,.,. ;:^ii;^
I that he may at tiine^^ hnve ohuviued Hdinif^sion
ii.i » t'n' r>nrk, and seen her b;*titlinof lier how at
zame, m»y not this Rij^ht have crt?ati*d
m his ptron*? nnd 6usct-»ptihhi imn^'io/H
f tion r Even whtjn he had liist s»?eu her hefov"* hia
I :roiTi;:^ to Ireknd in 1->S0, the qut*en was f^lv
>ev*ii, ntiA her bfiiiity was probably little* i in -
L ^iirely, then, the j)<>et was not to bl^ine
hf^r in liidO «fi he lecollected her
■ liays.
i Unlj by Uie way, that there are p&raans who
wuuld ^ju^ritica historic truth to fj&li^o delicacy,
' and who hli^m».* mo and others for vindicatiajr the
I r»ur iinijo of tlie grnftt queen from the foal a.-iper-
nf Dr. Lingard and his authnrilied^ even
U f^oinowhjit at the expense of her heroism*
V *.,u, however^ not of them, and no litemry act
I of mine erer iravo me more darore ]>l<ja*iaret
The quotntioo from Kandolph's letter in out* of
' the ffplie:^ I reirard as of preat iuiportnnce, aa it
prov*^j*that in lo(>d somo of the best informed per-
snu8 knew xn believed that EliEuheth never would^
hf? a moiJier, The quoen*a words when she
ioformt.Nl itf the birth of Mary's son are ahio veiy
sli:tr»ii<'^mt As to her apparently seriona inteo-
hu was nearly
(iftVj it ia etis? of explanation.'
To protjoei then, Tiuiias and Anioret were re-
Lrarded by some critics as Sir \Vitlter iLaleigh and
Elizabeth Trograorton ; but the latter waa in no
way ultin to the queen, and Aiuoret ia tfister to
13eipbo:^bii. I am therefore inclined to .hoo in this
laat Lettice Ivnollys, the qneuu s e.>iisin, tirat mar-
ried to Lord E*sex, and then, to Elizabeth's great
displeiisure, to the Earl of Leicester, whom I
tithp to b<? Timia-s, in whci^se ncime there may b«
an alliifiion to Leice^er's nnitto, "Drovte et
I/oyall " ; be is the squire of Prince jVrthur, and
the Ihuilev family wtiro strorirly attarhed to the
honae tif Ttidor; and his biL'in^ wounded by the
*• joaters," and at^ciirml and restored to health by
Bclpboebe, may allttde to the ruin of bin family
at the accession of Marji and i\» irestoraliou by
that of Elizabeth. By' Sir Scudamore may be
meant tb*^ Earl of Es^ex.
In Maiinel of the Rich or Precious Strond
Upton saw Lord Howard of Effingham, High
Admiral of England, and in his trea^ureb from
With it J however, alienor)*
' only perpnnificntioD-*; but it I tiun of niairyinj^ Anjon whi u
that by these in j^entsral are
J :^ connected with the court of
ne critic seea in the stnid
r the second booh, and
r. tho fierv impf^luous
' ^ .p Whitc^ft, but
confers 1 cannot
L ch. 6 ; Marivauxi
jNirtio, vert la Jiti,
50
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*i»S,VIT- JA3r.21,'
wrecks, &c., the spoila of the Spiuiisli .Irmada. I
view Marioel aa a purely poetic creation, aitd trace
its Qiiu^n thus: Spencer in his Vieiv^ ^c, raakea
mention of one Aniodel of tbe Strond in co»
Cork, who was formerly a great lord, hut waa
then much reduced; and I remember seeing mj-
self the ruins of a castle close to the water on the
eaat aide of Clonakilty Bay, named Arundel Caatle,
which may have heen his residence ; and as he
may have 'derived much of Ma wealth from vessels
wrecked on hig coast, the pot't maj^ have formed
from him his Marinel, His hirth may be an
imitation of that of Achillea, hut there were, and
perhaps still are, legends on the coast of Cork of
the union of mortals with nynipha of the aea.
In the fifth book we come at last on real per-
sons. Arthegal, for instance^ and Britomart have
hithtJTto been only the Rug^iero and Bra daman to
of tbe I'\trio80f but now ho becomes Arthur Lord
Grey, the poet'a patron. The qtieen now is Mer-
cilla, and Duessa the Queen of Scots^ whose son,
by the way, was so olTended at it that he de-
manded the punishment of the poet Blandamour
and Paridel me now the two great northern earls
who took up arms in her cause. Sir Burbon is
Henry of Navarre, but in Gerionco and Grantorto
I only see personifications of Philip and the
Spanish monarchy and ofO'Neil and the native
Irish.
Sir Calidore, the hero of the last book, is the
fi:allftiit Sir Philip Sidney ; Melibee and Pftstorella,
Sir h\ Walein^^hnm and his daughter, whom Sid-
ney married \ Colin Clout and his Laspe, the poet
and his wife ElizubfUh, another phase of whose
character may^ as I have hinted elsewhere, hare
given origin to Mirahella.
There may be other real persons in the poem,
but I have not discovered them,
Thob, Ketghtley.
WEST HIGHLAND CUSTOMS AT MARRIAGES,
BIRTHS, AND rUNEUALS.
I am indebted to various Gaolic-&peakinj:r na-
tivea of Cantire, South Argylcshire, for much in-
formation relative to the old customs of their
"Weat Highland district in relation to births, mar-
liagea, imd funerals. The notes that I here give
from the accounts of my informarrts may po^^wibly
assist to preserve tho memory of customs which
have in many West Highland districts already
become obsolete.
Marriaok Customs. — Early in the present
century marriog^s were celebrated in Cantire with
more ceremony and greater hilarity than ia now |
commonly the caae, except in the more retired j
glens. Ihe marrisge customs were these:— |
When a young pair had got through the leurachj j
or contract, and had agreed to get married with ,
ur^H
Liung
I
the consent of their relatives, a night was ap-
pointed for the rnte^ when the friends met and a
feast waa prepared, of which all were hearty
takers. All arrangements were then made;
names of the parties were recorded in the chu
session-book, and were proclaimed on Sabbath,
Invitationa were then given to friends and neigh-
bours, who in return generally sent a present to
the bride by way of contribution to the feast ; and
in this way, hens, ducks, meal, butter, cheese,
and even a'fat sheep, would find their way to the
hride*8 house. The bridet'room had to provide
that important part of the feast, the jar of
whisky; for tea was but little used sixty yean
ago. Gunpowder waa pui chased by the T*^ung
men in order to salute tfie marriage party % *
discharge of firearms*
On the morning of the wodding-day the w;
ing of the bride took place, and after her 1
she was dressed in her best clothes ready for
ceremony. The bride's party assembled in the
house or her narents, where the wedding feativi
tiea were held, the bridegroom's party meetx
them either at or near to the church or mj
where the ceremony was celebrated. PS]
played before each party, and shots were
they passed along.
The ceremony being over, the two parties joii
and returned together to *Uhe wedding-oov
with great joy. A bam had been cleared
dancing, where, after partaking of refreshme]
the pipers Mid tiddlers began to plaVr and
young people immediately commenced dancing,
which they were very expertj having been pre
vidusly trained to such exercise. The dn-^ '•
was continued until the dinner was set down
all the company took their places on either t-i
a long table. Grace having been said and a bl(
ing asked by one of the aged men, they all fell
at the good things provided for them^ and
carvers made a round hand at the fowls, thoi
some of them were not very expert at ae]_
the joints. Indeed, I remember being at a
ding where there was a strong man who
called upon to carve ; but, not coming upon
joint?, he was somewhat puzzled how to divi
the fowl into pieces ; f^o he began to tell a atoi
about a sailor who was s^t to carvcj but could
do it, '* Upon which," said the strong man, ** I
tell you what the sailor did— he took the fat
in his hands, and grasping it firmly, tore it
pieces in an instant/* And with this the atr-'
man did the earae ; after which they let Him
hia dinner in peace, and gave Mm no more fowl
to carve.
After dinner the wedding company would
to dance in earnest: before dinner it bad only h
a little hit of exercise to whet their appeti
As the dance was open to all who chose to coi
and join it, yonug men and girla would tmji
»&V1I. JAa.21,'71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
51
4 long distunce to be present at the marriage ball,
to vhicb tbev bad admittaDce on eonditioD of
paying a eranll sum ** for the floor,'* The ball
$ai tlie wbi^kr-drinking- weie kept up through
tlie iui?bt utitii the next day's dawn, and it was
' .^ latt* hour before the biid^ waa put to |
\ iVr thia had been done with great cere- ,
'^»* bride*8 friendii, and the bridegroom's i
id laid him by her side, the company
md theTO in their bed^ and drank to
. to which the bride and bridegroom
[le fiame manner^ and the company
m. ^ (
I day the wedding company again
t ad gen»^rally made a happy day of it ',
ri njr^ walkinij' dancing, and linng of
gwis mid pistols until the evening, when they dis-
;^^■r^l ^^Tif^h was the fashion of marriages in
the present century, but thinga
i now, although certain customs
41^511^ - especially those which relate to
ll»4ic»i the whiaky* Now-a-days^ when
ly have assembled to dinner, they
• the neare&t public-house^ where
ui* ' will go round the company with
wiater ' an equal eum of money from
f^icJi |. ;jctiuiei% m much as three shillings
♦»r aii; very guest. The whole of this
fsm U .*- '^'l i" the purchase of whisky,
M^tWe tmt pience is that the diversions
d tiU •renii. ^ . - :en terminate in anything but
UmoGf jwd goodwill
Uimc^iiL C0STOM9,— The baptism of infants
»»* rc«ij«id*ir*d a very important ceremony in
I juldition to itis scriptural import,
ri be a tenrpornl charm, tSonie
jr-'ir \ that a cbild would not grow
«|mi l>rtptised, and all were of opinion
list it >- iv^ L-n i lack to have an unbaptiaed child
m tb^ Ikotidd : hence it happened that paronta and
fHDiiUiia brought infanta to be baptised, however
Hnjfiiiniii the children might be, and however
&% Hit? parents might be. In cases of ille-
T the church exacted a fine of the delin-
•ttttL*.:' and if the fine was not paid, means were
yearn ago, and prior to that) to send
TO the army ancj nav)\ in which way
mmj 'Jt fUc Higbtandera became soldiers and
»a^. '. - li -T-** rtro>j** thv proverb, "An ill-got
^oldier/^
y\n minister of the parish
1 ;;. collegiate-' with Dr. Smith
tid \ .1^ very severe on those w^ho
tnUiL,: nu'wer h\s (juestions on these occiisions,
i ata nAined Mc^eil once came to the old
r, bdit^ring' his child for baptism ; but not
^t^B to aofwer the ministi^r s quesdons^ the
Cook a jonng man of the company aside
koada^d kim, and made him to hold up the
child to get it baptised. This eliamed McNeil and
made him more careful for the future*
The celebration of the baptismal ceremony
attended with a great display of hospitality on the
part of the parents, who mvited their friends and
neighbours to the christening feast, A iar of whisky^
having been provided, sponsors were chosen, w^hom
they called ^* goiiitie " and " hanna-goistie." The
care of the whit^key was entrusted to the ** goiatie,"
and the '* banna-goistie " (or female gossip) had
the charge of the eatable. The infant w«s then
given up by the "bonheen*' (ailing mother) to
tbe company, and was carried away to church or
to the uiinister*8 house ; the company also took^
with them bread and cheese, and pina to bl
divided upon their return home among the young^
men and maids, that they might in dreams have
a view of their future partuors.
Sometimes the merry-making on these bap
tismal journeys wa? suffered to lead the compauf
astray^ and cause them to forget the caune ana
object of their undertaking. A baptismal com-
pany was once crossing the mountains between
Lar^ie and Saddell^ and rested on the rond to t^ik^
a retreahment of bread and cheese and whisky ;
after which they proceeded on their jvny, and
arrived at the manse. The minirtter had begim
the ceremony, when ihey found that the infant
was not present, ** "Where is the child ? *' was the
queation ; and *^ Have you it r" *' '* Have you it ? "
the females were asking one another, but no child
could be foimd. At la^^t» the oue who had been
can-ying the child up to that place where they
had staved on their way for refreshment called
to niiud that she had laid it down among tho
heather, and had supposed that some ono else
must hfivo picked it up and brought it to the
manse; but as this was not the ease, they had
nothing for it but to retrace their step** to the
place in question, which they did without delav,
and found the child lying quite safely where it
had been left on its bed of heather. Then they
brought it back to the manse and had it baptised.
FuNEBAL Customs. — Up to sixty years ago it
was the custom in Cantirej when anyone had de-
parted thii^ life, for the friends of tho deceased to
provide the necessaries for the accommodation
and refreshment of viaitors. The corpse was
wrapped in oUanavh (woollen), and waked day
and night utitil it was interred, A pan of salt
was placed upon its breast, and it was stretched
upon a platform, over which was erected a tent
of white linen ; within this tent candles were kept
alight day and night until the time of burial.
The neighbours gave up their work, and attended
in the house. The Bible and other religious books
were laid upon a table and perused by the hichd
/(tire (watchers) j devotional exercises were per-
formed each night and morning', igiXftUl^ ^lc»tL\fcU
52
NOTKS AAD QUEKIES.
[4«»S. VIL Jajt. 21/
akM luiil * itii whialnr, wat#«er?cd it in-
ttsmilM, ni n|f waiki iiuci in fmim of the
dvemuiril. ** a m n i ttaIb^^' eiMitmiiM my inj^rmftotf
*' tllii rcktiTe^ drripped ft gentls betoF,"'
Whf»n the tiit!<? ^f th** ftinrmi mmp tht? com-
I ■ IV WM eerv'i''l with bfjid mui chr:*-*^ and
v.,p-' ^, T' '■'■- "-- - • ■ • '•■■-- -'-'
'./ i'V li pi-r-vri pln_ .
or »omo oUit*r mournful the Lochaber
tniin|i*' (•'. r, thu Ji*wV i jiiw*§, harp),
\ft*?r the iotemiC'iit:, aoJ whofj lUe {mve wiw
!i»»ftt}v fovereJ in with ;rr«n*n iwdB, tbt* nenreet
' the dc'CM>wed tljiiuktHl the c<»nipany for
I fltt»fnibiicti. Ur**«d and oht»*^?** and
re then serv^nl p<miid ; aftpr which the
i ptirted to thi'ir own hiTdc*.
CcnitEnT Beiti:.
eilAKSPRKE^d DEATH £ SOCIAL GEXIALOGT.
I'ndnr try 0, IMoG^ Nathaniel llaw-
thortM> Wjr I : ^l/rum fh€ Eftgli'ih Note^Bookk
of Xathanui JJu:.Uujrtir, i. Hj^^ii) : —
" I tlitnil ttl Mr. WiUimu Browii\i (M.F.) Jujit evftning
with fl Inrf^o purty Sfn'nkini; of SUakf^jw^iv,
Mf. MJiid tUni the D«ik«' of IS<jmiT»ct» wJio i^ now
nnuU r-MT - . f, t^ill him ihnt the father ol" John and
' Hit* uU ptwiftiblc res farch into th«
> [ij>^ atkI that hi! hud r»u&d reajsoQ
' Irrl a certain revel ut
in diu conviviidlty of
' . I I'll on hii* wfiy liotnr,
ui 1 -i 1 li^^rvl IJi*? Ktiiit»l4j ffAirJArcli won an atreil
T11 ,ri he cojniAunicaU^I this ta ttit* fUtko. And thKlr
il 1 Jii;..1ni • ■. '
I'vtT to have K*en it iitiut — which h mt)«t stngtilar.'*
Nor do I ; and as it uiny be new to many
others* I, in ftccordftnee with the luotlo of
** N. Sl Q./* " timke a note of it/" It i» vety
ciiriouB how littk^ we know about 8hakapert*p Bsd
th« mortJ so consideriuij the few Livt^s interTening
h*'two<m his death and the data of bis firet bio^-
plwtr Lei|?h Hunt ( ttj whom nio&t ideas of the kind
w«Te sure to occtir» aiid form food for in^^nioud
gpiwuktion) has happily work ad out the thouirht
eootitined in Hawthorne'n note, in an artit^le en-
titled 4iucifil Orr-'^--". 'rnni which the fullowiDg
ejttxnct may ht .—
"tti»a.^Vi-- - . ..i.r.... .„ -...- :-^-. ^T^at a
link tif |«'T.- 1 the
tuithors gf ' id t4)
ffhak*pi*ar<s hiui^riJ i**<i<k, uhcu «i thikU pre*
vnllnil on foinu iVicnJ* to take him to n I'tsfTcie'hotiac
Which Urydeii f^tiqiwntisfl. ♦ , , , . Now sai-h of ni i»
hflr« thftkoD iMDdB Willi ■ living pott nn^ Wftbln pcr^
lL2p«,to reeftoA sp m nrf«»of «DiiiMetliwaiAki*to the
Ttsry hsRfl that wivto af Hmilit «Bd of F«l«tsff aod of
Dmkmona. With homa ViviRg potU it ta €<^rtAiu.* Ttine
La Utomad JUovn^ for instance, vho knew Sberidaiu
SlMiidati knew Johrnon, who wu the ftiend of SaTttgc, who
)t»»W fltede; who knew Pope. Pof^ wiu lodiiuite wiill
I ruoi?rFiret, sad Con grerre with Drjdac Drydui li scid^
itea MUton. Mtltxsa i» ftaid to haw knovm
:i:,aiid to have beco «avcd bj him fktim thej
vriigt- ol the restored court in xvtom for haTin^ m
Davcnant frrim the rovtsiffe of the. Gcmunonwealtll.
I if tb« link between Dryden and S^lron, and MU
Dar^naot i^^ wine what apocrvphal, or rather dep
iraditirm (for Richardson, the painter, telb r
tr vo r pf, who bad it from Bettertoo the
i': I, -ft's company), it may be earned ac
I i>! V ;. ij to Davenant, with whom be was onqii
intimate. Davenant, then, knew Hobbes, who
Bacon, who knew Ben Jon-^on, wlio wiu intimata '
BeaaoHMit and Fletcher, ' '^ Hra
CaradaOiSelden, Clarendon pt
all tlie good men of Eli?, i \m^%
irreatesc of them all ttnduubtt^y. 1 huo we iiuv« a 1
u( *bmmy hnnds' ftom our own titnt'A up to
htiffii Hunt contitiiieB }iie ^Sorial Gene
stiH further. For hi a contintmlioQ aijd the"
thoriiies (all set forth at len^'th) i'ot this "ia
lectual pedigree/* I must refer thr reader to
article it**-lf, which hn« been r**criitly
by Mr. Ilottcn in ^1 7h/t ff>r tr f'Ju'>nu»
tttui other Esftfiff*^ from tho '
little Tolume edited by Mj. I ,
bio;lirjiphical introduction is not only
ft^ctbit of writinj: ns to style, but is a <ii
of approcittlivt* criiamm worthy its subjert,
Eleasant picture of Leigh Ilunt by one wh . i
im wolL " I
Reverting' to the main subject of tbi? nofp, I ■
may add that in "N. & Q/ for IMu-
(2*'*' S- xi 102-3), ore given two inet.
memory of two persona extending over i'>'>
and linking together the reigns of Ann
Geoifj-e III. Doubtless many more couia ik
fotmd if aouj^ht for.
8* R. TowysuKSTB Maob.
RIehmondf S.W*
CHBISTlLUi MnJiMSRS AKD PloUGH-
Thia jourajil bein^ the choaen reposif
dates and partiL'ulai's of popular cubl
here state that the Christmas miimm
my huuae in Ilnntin'rdonshire in tb'
week of 1870-l» and acted the old
"George and the Dragon/' with the vh
Bold Bu ona part e, the T urki ah Kn i i' * ' ^
Devildoubt, thu I)ocU)r^ kt. TL
who perform t!d this mumroer'a n:.. ^
tumc^d for the occasion, and went *..
pi^ee with much spirit They hud h'
taiiprht tbd word«^ wbifik differed but
• Originallj^ written and published m 1*119.
4*>S.TU. Jax.«1,710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
53
from Temnns tbiit I bad previously heard in Wor-
oestitrshizv^ luA els^vrlirTM, and which have been
reosrdt ^ of ** N, & Q/' I may
nko ati'* vilcbers came as usual
to mj Iiu4i0e on tiitj e'?euing' of Ploug-h 3fond«T
^mL 9), flatting their cans and asking far money.
CCTiniETlTBKT>E.
an Christmu SftunmtfB will be found in S""!
M, 4«6 ; 3Lt. 271 ; xii. 487 ; S'^ S. i. 66 ; ir. 486.]
TirR SiEijK OP Brxda: Tobacco.— The 9u?ge of
ac of the most celoh rated aiegesot" the
centrrrT, and in fre(juently mentioned
nmatiate. Spinola ertt down
:st lU l»fi4»aud the town
lU July 1 in tho folio wing
itHHTod incrodihle hardebips.
:l*i historian Herman ITnjjo^ "was
ris apoanJ; a calf of seventeen
: r-rty-eig'ht; a bog, for one hundred
and tobacco for one hundred florins
rhij* wa^ after they had cott^imed
1 ^c s, A few days aVter, the narrator
'fiucb tobacco as in other places
J had for ten flmnp vnns Bold in
himdred," It flpp«»arB that thi^
i an '•physic^it bein'^ th« only
J — nt'ainst acurvy." Ml.
Tub Paii::M i;i: -h CoRBlAr, —
'.'■:::. .Ties;
- - - -■ ■■ 'v-- - -■ ' r- ' -■ I Ji»y-
Wih . Let this staim nv.i or thr<?e day»,
hiii&i: i-<lay; then ruu it throuirh a fSanad-
1)^1 for OH.' C ^ ''*'"* * ^^- p«t«** 'Ac Pettt/ j'timU^)
MaoRLA>'n Lad.
CnxiRcir. — As alluaion baa
1 tba parish of Wingj co.
Bfttfiu^ li may b« ioterestiDg to note that in the
»f* i>f the church there is a curioiLs brass-plate
bnriog the effi^^ of a man in a eloaJi Imeeling,
"m^ * porter's f^talf under hiii feet, and a bi^b-
' it, and a large key lyin^'' behind him,
are lifted up a,H if in prayer, and
riMov.' H the following ini^criptiH^n: —
"BMim old Thomi^ f%>f«, that *toiiipfimoa was
W PbrtBTttt A*COt'
- ■ •')
m Uft iti» ki^Y. h
1 to bare
m luKncifibrav
. '. _ ■ lu an'* grave. ^
M MadMu prvqiar
r none cftfi ttUI,
rP R«lf tlUlt TOD tt.
fo-nipht, — FarcwdL
■ * Hedui.i .
-r, UH8.
an at the appoin
t.jr>;psof his Friend.
Gieo.
, _ . '>\"
^
G. R D,
►
»-
^
f.—
-Few ecclesiastical statea-
,rh
centurv have been more
1
-ii ,r
H^ nnr! unfairly mnlig-ned
i
memory has been
)f iiinHhe assuredly
Fatmmtiy a. Mat af the Dontioi^.
never cotmnitted in the flesh. AmongBt them
is the *" fable ''of hia havinjr written the Latin
epistle mentioned by Mr. Tew (4'*' S, vi. 66D)i
to the keepere of Edward II. at Berkeley Cagtle^
so often improperly quoted to his prejudice. If,
indeed, there is one thing more certain than
another in connection with Adam de Orleton, it
is that he never wrote the letter in question, and
equally untrue that he ever ** owned it, but pre-l
tended his meaning was horribly mistaken.'^
poli(^ at the time of Edward's' incarceration wna
in direct contradiction to the assumption of bis
being the writer of those wordij, e^ en to the ex^
tent of its being impossible he could have donfli
so^ as may be readily ascertained by those who
feel interested in the subject. Henry F, HolT.
King's Hoaf}, Chpham Park.
Generai* Wolfk astd thb 2t>rn Foot. — In
jour First Series (vol. ii, ) I observe some notices
of General Wolfe, which remind me of what I
understand was a fact that merits being recorded
in ** N. & Q." Ke entered the army as ensign i
the iH)th foot, which WiV9 and still is'di^tinguishe
as Wolfe's regiment, not from any other official
connection, but solely firom hi^ eminence and
glorious death. Now it happened that the 201^
was in garrison at St. Helena when Napolea
died, and the bearers of his body to the grwrft
were grenadiers of Wolfe's regiment. ©.
Ediuhut^b.
Tre PsopnECT OF Orval. — This was eagerly
read, and extensively believed in, at the time of
its appearance in an Eng-lish translation in the
eventhil year lt*48. But it sunk into merited
neglect when in the following year it was de-
nounced by the Bishop of Verdun, as an admitted
fabrication of a priest of his dioce?e. See the
biahop'a circular m Tftc Tablet of April 7, 1849,
^. C.IL
WrrcHCP^AFT. — The following advertisement is
worth a plate in the old curioHity-Hhops of follies
and fancies which the contributors of '*N. "Ss- Q.**
are so plentifully furnishing f(>r the edification of
the future. It was ii**iued with a number of the
Spiritual MngnzinA m the year 1868 — that is,
m the nineteenth century of Christian civilisation,
and in what its sons claim as the most enlightened
city of the roost enlightened nation on the faee of
the earth. How far tsbia tiieory i» supported hy
the following document, I leave to the judgment
of complacent Londoners :^
** A Gentlemiin being Iwwitched br a hirw! Man^Wlteh
in hif ini mediate neigh bourhood^ hire>d and avovrcdljp-
paid, during 3o yisars, a fixtd sum of money yearly, ti^'
inij^t reanlJ^t for his cnininal services, under the impunity
secured to them by t!jc Statute \> Georga 11. «. "i. H'^ the
rrimts of Witchcraft ; would b^ ^'lad to obtain the aid
uf any Medinm who mi^ht be able, by Spectral Sight,
by Clairvny«tice, or by Trance, to aftltrd such clue for
the idiiatiBearion iii the senjie of faot, of the said hired
Man- Witch, in hia peraonal and individaal ca^ajdl^* Cvkt
KOTES AJfD QUEKIES.
H^^-S, VILJa».21,'
the prAi:tica] pnrpoee, as would render possible mi uppti^
catitin to a Magiatrate'a Court, for a Wftrrant or Sum*
noneagaiost him in thepreseot state of the Law. — Ad-
dwsfi, . . . &c"
W. E. A. A.
Joynson Street* Strangewajs.
** Le Coa FRAJf^.us." — *<The unbroken self-
confidence which the French, like the AtbenianB,
have ever ret«iiied atnidcit the greatest disnsteis "
i$ referred to bj Dr. Anjokt in his notes an
ThucydideF^ i» 70, where he quotes an epigram,
wliicli may be found in the appendix to one of
the Tolumes of Cim. Dumas' Cafnpagnes^ most
Binguliirl^^ illuatrative of their present attitude :^ —
*' Lc coq fraovttis est le coq da la glotre,
Var hj^ rt'Vi/rs il ii\>:<r point abattu ;
II ilijiTjtt' fort, qujiud il ^^ne la victoirc,
T'lu^ fort encore, quand it ert bifw battu.
Ci)fl,n}«r toMJyi|ir« e«t aa^rande vert a/'
C. W. BlKOHJOf.
MiLTON a:^d TTom<kopathy. — ^llubnemann ii^
*aKi to be thi^ nuthor of boraceopathy, but was he
T9tLlh mf i\[ilton, in bis preface to Samion
AtjmtAfea, has thia passage : —
•* Tragedy, said by Aristotfe 16 be of fN^wer, by raisipg:
pity and fe.Tt or terror, to purgo the mintl of tho^ aiid
ipuch like pnAftions— >that b. tw temper and reduct* therti to
just measure with * kind of dillifht, stirred n]^ Ity- ivadinj;,'
or aetiug thr ,'"''•:■ ""' "" "■' .[nre
wanting in J .u :
for m in plij . iHty
are used agniuht tneiancbolvf m/uj againjit^our, bait to
femovc 4alt bom ours.''
This proves that homoeopathy was practbed in
Milton'a tiuie^ and even Hippocrates alludes to it.
The passage horn that writer wa.^ given me in
the original NDUie timtt ago, but 1 buve mislaid it,
and I should feel obliged if you would quote it
in anearl}' numbt^r, The minim doaes of thepresent
dsiy are no(j a!bided to, aa 1 remember, even in
Jlabnomaim's Orgmmn; thej seem to have arisen
from tliii a^mnption tbal^ as the proper medicine
W09 to be npplied, tho ama^lest quantity would
f^uiiice for the cure. G. E.
TlELioTypT.t— It may be uaeful to «ome readers
oC " N. A Q." to be informed that an account of
tluBnew kind of Indelible phctogiftphy — admirable
for illaetraling books aud copying' aketchea and
works of tbe gr^t masters, impossible otherwiee
to be given in fac-pimile bichrome— will be found
in Art Pictorial and Ifidtfjtfrial (No 4), for October
Iwt, from tbe pen of Mr. G. Wharton Simpson.
Xb© patentees, ilesara, Edwards and Kidd, will be
bappy to ahow spec i mens to any reader* or cor-
respond en tit of ** N. & Q.'' who may call at
22^ Henrietta Street, Go vent Garden.
8, K, TowNSHEif© Mayer.
E4diiaoiid,S*\V*
'* AlKIUANDO DORMITAT BOXrS HoiTBBUS " (4
S. vi. 407.) — Where ia this sentence to be found]
I have often used its English equivalent, but f
know nothing of the Latin quoted by Mr. J.
PiCTON (uf mtjira). Stephen Jack&oxJ
[The passage h from Horace, De ArU PotVii
ver, 35^. Ac—
" , . . , et idem
Indiguor^ qunndoque bonos dormitat Honnerttsu**!
Anonymous?. — I have a book entitled —
** Pleasing Melfliicboly ; or^ a Walk among^ the T<^
in a C<?antry Churchyard, in the style and maimer
* Horvc^y's M<>fiitati'ins ' ; to which are addeil Kpltap
Elegies, and liiscriiition^ in Prose and Verw.*'
It was published at London in 1793, and tbe pw
face is initialed G, W\ Who was tbe author i
compiler P James It eh
18, High Street, Fai^liiy,
BfituoTnKCA Indica. —
"Thtt MuntnVhab al Tawririkb al Badflun:— PcriJ
text— KiliU'l by i^apt, \\\ N. Ufm, LL.D., Calouli
18% published by the Asiatic Society of UcnudU"
What axe the dates of tbe MSS. followed
preparing tbe above edition of Abdul t/ii
valuable history of the reign of Akbar, linir^hed i|
AJI. 1W4 (A.D* ir>D5|, and how can the urigiu
matter be diatingui^lied from subsequent Luterp
lations when this inlbrmation is not friven ?
R. R. W. Ei^fi
ikareross, near Exetar.
DAUBYGNf: Monument, — In tbe church
Brize-Norton (Norton S, Brice), Oxon, is
monnm^nJtal slab to the memory of Sir Jo
Daybygn<5. The date m 134G, aiid the knigbt
represented boldly in elljgy. Ilis legs rfte crosse
and at bia ft*et erouchcB a lion. It is unusu
rich in itJ3 heraldic sculpture, being cbarg
live escutcheons. The chief of these coveS
knight's body, and bearB four faeils comoine
fesse, each ctarged with a pierced mullet Th
remaining four escutcheons occupy the four coi^
nera of the tomb. One of tbembearn th© foi
fusils plain; another bai* the fusils ermine,
the remaining two one is either lozen^y or ma
celly — I cannot say which, n» the stone in wi>ra|
but! fancied that T could defect an ermine i
on one of tbe divisions, in which case it won
suggest tbe arms of Kokele — *^ masculy d*ermy
et do goula." (lloll Hen. III.) Sorne of you
readers, better acquainted with ih^ Daubyg
Sedigree than myself, will probably bo able
ecide* Tbe remaining escutcbeon bears tf
cbevronels witbiu a bordurc engrailed*
It ia probable that some notice of so nc^ ;
specimen of monumental art will have been take
by others; but I venture to ^nd it to **N, & Q,^
as an additional security against ita being lofl
aigbt of. Tho monument ia,vfilaed in,t)io pa ' '
*<* S. VII. Jty. iU M.]
'NOTES AND QUERIES.
iotd l^ in A fiiirlv mife positioD, Tlifi cliiircb
grnemlly ^^ill repay a Tbift. W. M, H. C\
P,8,— What connection, if tmy^ is there bf?tween
I>anbygfi6 nnd D*Albini ?
Pm 1 T T V. John Enty. — There is a abort notice
V. J. Enty by Jolin Fox in the MQHthhj
, ..;/ {xvi. 5i^'0, 18*>1, where it i» etated
ho was the son of a tailor la Cornwall, and
^_. i in 1743. ** Mr. Enty was enoriiged in the
eciiitrofer^T Among^ tho Dip^f*nters in the We.>t
ecme^niiiig the Trinitj%" Where is there any
ffirtlier account to \^ found of Mr. Enty's life and
vritbigs ? Gku. C. Boase.
EiBiior SmLLi5G PrECEs op Charles I. —
A W^^' ..* ^vi..rp jjgp -wjlly in the reign of Charles L^
lf*vi ^ if her depondenta a lei^acy of four
•leTtii -^..k...^ pieces. Was this an English coin ?
Attd if io, how lootf did it continue in circalation ?
E. P.
FaAj^KB : Frisel. — Unheraldically speaking, are
... ♦ tK.. ti.*.... fltjrrtwberry leavea m the Eraser
1 osaonia = live petals argent ? With
.;..^ coat originate ? What is the diite
t example of it? When was the name
J from Frii*el to PVaser ? Has Sir IlarriH
s. 'Us left any annotations on the Friael of
/I Abbey roil, and are there any notices of the
rs'the period in question in coimeclion
Mian charter!* ? Any information on the
Liift q^ticries* would much oblip:\ Sp.
Pl:X>IGREE OF B. R, IIaTUON, the IIl8T0RlC\t
Paixier.^ — ^In the Autohiograph}j ami JounuiU of
B, IL Uaydon (2nd ed. 18o*J. \ 4), the writer
itates thaJthL? ** father was a lineal descendant of
. . . . , the Haydons of Cadhay*" la there any
*?idttn« in favour of thia statement P None is
ritri 'H the work quoted. Perhaps »ome mem-
artist's family mav be able to answer
_. .m. ' ' N.
** UurTH TO CnAntJfEH." — Can any one say
tilifw lUe abore may be obtained, or any book
OR the duties of the chair at public meetings P
VV.
Brighton.
"Ti«k^ ilftvivn ,\v Titv Tvii»" — WTio wrote
vay gives it to
^ . but r think he
S6G in ** N. & Q.'* a
- '^ writinga. I only
bow ^' Uitl Friends with new Faces,*' and three
^flBj^s, rif , *'Pr^ftT P*nse of Eticeme/' \x hnn'est
•■Onjf, anti toral, **Ten me, ye
'^Bm^ h I tora?'* Mr. S'harpe,
riy iicquain ted, informed
•r of the ubfvve. I hnve
*}■ been told that the pas-
-:. lo«t my lo%e,'* was also
from liis pen. L"^ this correct? The **01d
Frienda" well merits a reprint^ with a memoir ol
the talented author. Jame8 Henry Dixon.
Arms of Jenxoub, — Your correspondent
A, AV. M, hna kindly helped mo to these arui3,
for which I had been enquiring. Can be further
iufonn me what conner.tion there bad been, kn»jK
Elizabeth* between the family of Jennour, of
E?<jex, and either Larder, Barket, Seymour, or
Storke? All the.^e came in, T\nth Jennour, !nt*>
the arms of Ilusey, of Shapwick, Dorset, by tho
marriRO'e of Mary, daughter of Thomaa Barket,
of Dewlish, iind coheiress of her mother, Ur.suhi
Larder, to Thomas lluaey, temp, Elizabeth.
\V. M. IL CnuBCH.
Dr. JoniTSON's Watch. — I some time ago (4***
S. vi, 275, 405) made inquiries respecting Dr.
Samuel Johnson's watch. The only reply which
1 got was from a coiTespondent who referred me
to Wood's Cunostties of Clockji mid Watches^ where
the oul}^ information giren is that it is reverently
preserved by its owner. But I am anxious of
getting more detailed particulara, I should lil^e
to know whether it is a gold or metal wrtt<;h|
whether it is a repeater, what sort of a di.il
plat« it has, whether enamel or metal (we
know he had the dial plate changed)* and whe-
ther the houra' figures are in Roman letters or
Arabic numerals; and, lastly j the maker !? name?
And I shall be mucli obliged if any one can inform
me of liny of those particulara.
OcTAvirs MoBQAir.
'^' Der relegirte Kobbold," etc. — Can any
correspondent tell me anything of Der refetfitU
KMoki, or of the Geschichte ties heruhmten Bvr(}»
^i^iiffji fitwme mtf den Smielen f Harrow.
KirioHT OP THE Body and Esqitire of ttik
Boot. — What would be the duties and what the
diirnitr of a kniprht and an esquire of the king*s
body to Henry VIL and VHL P P, P,
CtrEiOTTS Marriage Citstom. — Can any of the-
renders of ** N, & Q.'* givo me the ori^n of the
following curious marriage custom, which prevails,
or at all events did prevail some twenty years a^o,
ainon>y the agricultural population of Aberdetrtn-
Hhira? The marriage usually takes place at the
house of the bridp^s futber, to which it is cus-
tomary for the bridegroom, when the diatance i«
reasoDftble, to walk on foot, supported by two
" groom'a maids," and accompanied by th^ie
fnends who havG accepted his invitation to l>e
present at the ceremony. Just as tlie procession
starts, or is about jrtarting, two young m^n, se-
lected from the bridegrofun's party, who are
deaiguated im!^ (*' sends ," or mt^aaeugerswhn-ltfe
.nent), hurry oti'to apprise the bride of his approach.
When a youth of fifteen years old, I was on one
occujiion hastily improvised into ei*'^'^*''. ^^^^
I
A
66
NOTES AXD QUERIES.
[4^ a. VU. JASf. 2
ii neir 10 I cun revoUcct, the meainge deliTOrtd
bjmjooUeiigtie to ihebnd tollowa : **Xlie
bfidegroom preients lua c % and Teqnaald
OS to 9»y that he will 900k m- u- 4 , '
What ifl th^ object of the above custom, nnd
how or when did it originate ? A. Pateksox.
"TiTE Prodigal Son." — ^I mw Bome years hgp
A eet of cottage '1 tended to illustrato tKU
solject, bat r- - everything as taking
place At the timM i,i puoiicAtioDf namely^ the la^t
oentury. For infitanco^ in the scene where the
ptgdi^l is feasted on his return, a negro servant
la waiting at table, and the chaplain h ia Im
place in wig and gown. I have just beard an old
woman deacribe with great appreciation a set
which hw mother bought of a pedlar when she
waa youDg. 8he says it was all ** clear natral **
from be^uning to end. I think there were eight
pictunee, vtvidiy coloured. Could I poasibly pro-
cure a aet? J.T. F.
Latin Pboveeii. — Some years ago a brother
clergyman quoted in my preaence a Latin proverb,
the gist of which was, " Th« evidence of your
enemy in your favour ia the best evidence you
can have.*' Can any of the renders of ^* N. & Q."
tell me the exact words of the proverb in ques-
tion ? The name of the Latin author in which it
is found, and in what part of his works it occurs,
will oblige. n. W. C.
A KECTt>R*<HIP OF ElQATT'OlOC YEABa.— The
pariah regij^ter of Knoaaiiigton Giange, Loioeaterj
record?^ Richard Samson as rector of the parish
horn io'iS to 10;3i>, a period of eighbr-one years.
Ia there any record in the EngliSi Church of a
clergyman holding the aamo pariah for a longer
period than this P II.
Turvcy.
[Wbnt tividonco is there that there were not two in-
cum be Ota of the name of Richard Samson, probably
Jkllier mil mi\? — a fact nmoh oioro likdy than that the
incumbent lived «ighty'ono years after his ordination ot
Iwcnty-lhree, nmkinic* him one hundred sod four at the
timo of his dcttth. The ragister of Richard Samson in
1881) woold probably roeord his net and settle this
doubt.]
Fkmalr Sactt.— What female samt is repre-
sented with a crown upon her bead, and a richer
on© in her left baud ? A picture of her standing
and dressed in monafltlc garb occurs on the door
of a triptych by Momling, J. C. J.
SocTBTAS Albkrtobtjm.— Stephen, Archbiabop
of Toulouse, and Chamberlain of Pone Iimocent
Wt acknowledges the receipt of certait* payments
made by Wilbam, Bishop of Bodor, into the
Apostolic Camera, ^' per man us Ijambertesqui de
Sodwtnte Albertorum." The letter is dated from 1
Avignon, May 13, 1367. In 1871 Pope Qregory
1
XL commissions John Duncan^ Archdeacon of
Down and Apostolic Nuncio in Ireland, to pay
over, for the wncfit of the Apostolic CamerHf tha
ijitm of 0,000 golden florins unto certain Fl —
tines in the City of L ndon, *'^ factoribus
curatoribus Albertorum antiquomnu"' . .
wai9 the Societas Albertorum Antiquoruiu V ^9
TcsOGBinra n. 2. — 2Trt^(»F t^ a«\€i0w ^aum^
ofk&vT^v KfXiBn in Liddell and Scott is, tetaa-
lated A drinking cnp* Can this word have «i^
gested to Shakespeare the name of Gftliban in the
Temped, which he may have leamt &om acma
friend conversant with Greek ?
Thomas K WumuffOTOli
*' Thofoh lost to Sight, to Mkmort i>£ai
(i*^ 8. i. 77, 161; 399.)^In the latter referenoaj
is stated that this line has baffled the r«3ear6^
of the literati of England and America. 1 beg j
revive the query, who was the author of it,
forwarding herewith a seal taken from a lew
written in 1828^ and engraved with the words— ^
TC» iilOMT
Tu ATEMOKT
DEAfl.*'
Having a date at which it was
perhaps give a clue to its author.
You may not be aware that, in the ^VNotices (
Correspondenta '' at the end of the
part of a publication called The Mtmlhfy .
certain lines are published which purport to
those from which the above long-sought quotation
U taken. I therefore give you the referen
be made use of as your judgment may decid
my mind, the lines bear very strong
evidence of having been made to order, '
line being, as I think, written up to an^
necting badlywith those which preced e i t. * ' IH0
Orleans,'' ** lui old nieinonuidum book/* and ^ i
unremembered author/' all seem equally to poia
to a small literary forgeiy. C. W. "
[We quote from The Monthly Pnehcf the passBgtt !
ferrcd to by our oorrespundenr, vhieh fully jastiHes !
suspicion : —
** A lltPniE^' correspondent of the Nmw OrUtan Sm
Times «olve«i the ciufntion conoeming the origin of i
hitherto untraceable quotation —
' I'hough lost to sight to nu^mofy dear/
It tirat Bppeored in vimiBR written in an old memoraodu
book, the author not recollected : —
*^ Swt^etheart, j^od b}'^ ! the fluttering saU
Is spread to waft mc far from IbeCi
And «aon before the fav'rin^ galo
My ship shall bound upon tho laa.
** Perchance, dl desolate and forlom^
These eyes shall miss tbae many a year;
But unforgotten every chami.
Though lo9t to sight, to mimiory dear,''^
4«»a.nLJ«i.»j.'7io
NOTES AND QUERIES.
fi7
4<Xov TrT.T>rrt\i ^tRorKD/*— I »hoUld be glad
10 •JiO' iy of J our readers at Ilitchin
wtoiit ^ - _, ^ . ._r/' the orifj^ual of Dickens's
OhHstiiyift fitoiy for I'^Ol, ij* still in life. I be-
itre tluit bo is a tiattvt* of (Tarstiiii^, Lancasbire,
and educated at tbL*Graiuniiir-flchool of Winwick,
m xhtf sasoe rountv, Bomt^ year* ago he was
tkited by v. n and lady from the latter
loeoiitj, aih ut«n'iew elicited from this
volutppy reclu^ & ]j:r©ater waroitli and interest in
t^ proc(mdin^8 of tbe *' outer world*' than lie
kaA ever shown before, M. D.
MTEATfoiV AuT, — Wanted* any referencee in
^ worikS r.^ nlard poete to unrjt and weft
lod •«^, ov I I'a art generally. K- P. Q.
WrVJBd Ol' li,\IlLS OF NoRXnUitllERLAND. —
irh«Te can I fin ! nnv i»bort accounts or frenea-
Uf^ (trtiCt I' nny or »11 of the folloAvnug^
MCMWOged: Novill, Eleanor Poyninirs,
Matilda Ucrbert, Cntherln© Spencer, all of whom
mrirr^ed fiticceadve Eai'lfl of Northumberland
vpercj)? T. C.
r K^erton Biydgcs* edition of CoUiiw' Peerage of
\ ii«), where lh« aceount of the D^k<^d and
iuimberijiad occupies 150 page^a.]
GUN.
U*** Sv vi, 417, o.>l.)
. t' we«» DO tirearmF iu the reign of Ed ward L ;
». _ — -_:. *^ ,- „i: .jjgj wore probably man-
L audacious metouymy,
^^t MT i I , . ,, ,ioin ** gyn *^ or ** gin " —
;r«t j^ a weapon, and the 1 fitter only
.<!-.. Viifl a gun, in the tinto of the
haye been some fonn of
\', jtmt aa in the I'oxbpkilus
i\m ^oiika of the? long-how as an im-
* ' nrtillt T^f^.** Leaving ^im aloue^ how-
ken, surely philologers
with the too ostenBihlv
. imnon from catma^ the Med,
i. 1 have tile highejst re*ipect
i^n be puts an Italian aug-
wriTd)^ for Dufresne, and for
: lis think out the matter a
illy some reason in the
II \\: iJi^ 1 nL^ting of eggs. In
■ iini^-r^ Lk n "i or cane^ doea not
"^^cted. When
, aa is (some-
. wwiu .jv Jie Irish friars
in their VHrj.ion of the
uu Latiuo I Liitin almost
of radicals) : ♦* Vi brans
•■■-•-.L-e at - . . .
i: L hollo
^lltpcdjii
oteit^ly cmnposnd
Ojifid in Tola haeulum v.\ tnl
tmak moditaon
1 €»» yr revd l
buto aut ti^tula e
place » the idea of
ri^i" which is weak,
light, and fragile — ** stoiias e cannia cotifertas^' ;
anil is not in any way suggestive of the terrible]
enfjinea belching forth fire and death — " weapons
of Hercules/- says Camden (jRmiantci}^ " Jove*e
thunderbolt ; for so some now call our great shot."
In the third place, by the middle of the fourteenth
century, when firoarmi came into use, the Med*
Lat. catma had passed into the Italian language,
and had been appropriated with its new augmen-
tatives and diminutives to signify either b canal|
large or f^mall (canate, camiiazzo, ctmakUu), or the
pipe of an organ (canmif ctmnone), A thing mak- !
log BO much noise in the world as a cannon 1
would surely have been deemed worthy of somel
special epithet expre»feive either of its qutdities and.1
attributes, or ri*ciuUng the name of the personage
who invented it, or under whose auspices it waa
introduced, or the name of tiie country or city in ,
which it was first used. Looking into the hietorj j
of weapons, I find that in almost every iuptttnce
one or another of the foregoing conditions have
been observed. Thuft, the earlier firearms had
given to thein eitlier the names of serpents or
riivenoud birdn^ as ^* culverins *' or ^' coluorinus,* '
** serpentines,^^ *♦ ba^ilisques,'* ** faulcons," or ** sa» j
cres; ' or designations suggestive of the sounds ther^
emitted in discharge, as **caliver8,'' "petronels, '
** pitatras,*' *' muskets" {imschttti^ gad-fliea), and
the like. jV3 for ** pistol/* its name is said to come J
from Pistoja in Italy, as ^* bayonet " comes fron^l
Bayonne. Consider the ancient weapons of war-^
fare. Their names ha<J refer«uce, as a rule, to
their qualities or attributes. Thuj* ** Aries/' the
battering ram, the *' catapult,** the ** malliol,*^ the
*^traluero^' or *' from the maw,'- out of which.
I were cast great stones. Take King Edward l.*s|
huge engine, the ** war wolf/' u>ed by him at tlid
siege of Jkechin, Tb€ " cathouse " (\'egetiiiH* caU
ias)t and the **sow" employed by Edward IIL at
the siege of Dunbar, were also formidable engines,
hut of what shape or potency we know not. For
these and many others see Camden ( liemaitufif^j
chapter ** Artillerie '^ pamm). Touching propel9
names, the ** Brief die" (the English Eipringoldl
or Spriiigftld) waM probably derived from the I
name of a Frenchman so hight; just as a certaiiil
iViilanese 8W(ird was baptised aJPter the cutlerf
** Andrea Fetrara/' and a^ in modem times we have
Colt«, Dahljrrens, Krupps, Remingtons, Snider?,
Martini- n en rys (a title which may puzxle pos-
terity sorely), Mantons, Wef^ley Ttichards, and
the like. Fanciful female nami'S* often those of j
a lady sovereign, given to pieces nf ordnance, an
common, a^ ** La grande Josephine/' nnw mounted!
on one of the fortiti cations of Paris, ** La grando
Louison '' on the rampart;^ at Lille, *' Mons Meg '^
at Edinburgh, '♦Queen I-Uizabeth's pocket pistol "J
at Dover'';' and to this Ibt, I doubt it not, n^auTI
of your contributors will be able tA> va^V
The Americane haye been e\eti mox^^ \ -av
58
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4<*avii. jA!f,2i, •71.
chtiateniii^ their ordtiatice. During^ tlio civil war
tbe^* had one moanter gan nicknftmed ** The
Swamp Angel/* and another dubbed the ** Pet era-
bit rj^ Express," because, in the bombardment of
thfit town, the great gnn always opened fire at
four p. M. — the hour of the publication of the
e7t*ning paper of Petersbnr;?, The ErjTress. But
in none of these names can I discern anything so
weakly and vaguely loo^e in derlvatit^n as there
eeems to bo in CrtUnnn, from cmtna; because, for-
pooth, ft cane is hm^ and slender (which a cannon
is not), and can be made tnbular, I am aware
that mere ^imnises and hypothii«ea are rarely
permissible in philology; but backed by some
strong chronological eridence, I venture to broach
the theory that the word ^fmnon is derived from
the It'dian cmio}n' or tannone, a big dog; und that
this title was ^iven to the first gun discharging
shot propelled by powder, for one of two reasons :
the ftrst from the roaring, bellowing, baying, and
growh'ng sounds it emitted — as thoFe of a huge
mat^tiff ; and does not Mr, 8yke8, the burglar, call
!n*s pocket pistob ** barkers " ? and did not our
soldier."* in the Crimea nicknnme the sharply sibil-
lant rifle bullet '' Whistling Dick '*? The second,
that it was onginally brought into use under the
patnmaore of FVanc^Ico I., Imprial Vicar Adjoint
and Duke of Verona, Viceuza, Feltre, and IlaF^efljio,
who ** tionrisbed," as the saying goes, at the pre-
cise period assigned to the invention of fii'earms,
jmd who, ft'om his henildic cognizance of a mas-
tiff's head , was .Humflmed CVf/i tframie or // cfmmme,
**The coxoi of Can gran do was the most niagnilicent
of the age in Italy, and exhibited a conibmation
of mill tar V splendour and profuse liberality and
hospitality to the stranger, and encouragement to
literature* His palace became the refuge for all
who, embracing his political opinions, hod in any-
wise fiubjf^cted themselves to persecution \ and it
^n^ here that Dante found an asylum." If po-
! tl exiles and distressed poet«*could be made
u y.come at the court of the great O hi bell in e, why
HOf inventors, and others of that luckless race
also in modem times all known as '* patentees*'?
Chronolnjn^ bears out the Cangrandc theory very
temarkftbly. The Great Dog became co-sovereign
of the Veronese, with his weaker brother Alboni,
about A.D. lan, and he died ia 13m
Now hear Camden : ^ —
•* The vcrj" time of their in\'eiitt"'^ r ,.t- ■ til ]<« nnccr-
\mi ; but certain it is lh«t King 1 E liii-it used
them nt x\w pic*::? f^f f^i\\W \^M, had their
by writen IMUa^ igm, vpmei, at tire-dashing vessda."
Can Grande or II Cannme " flourished/' be it
remembered, between a.d. 1312 and a,d. 1320,
jumping ti\in<^t pari pasmt^ like Hippocrates* twins,
with Camden's dates. Finally T find, in Neu-
man and Baretti^s Spanish ZHctiotmr*/^ this nota
entry: ** Caw, ivn ancient piece of ordnance'
this would have referenca only to the grawlij
voice of the cannon^" * can que raata al lobo/
wolf-dog," — a dog» moreover, that can growl \
bay most sonorously, I have said my say in
matter, and must apologise for the length
which this communication has extended,
Georgis AtJGtrsTtrs Sn
Professor Stephens, in his great work on ITb
inscriptions, derivea Qmi and cannon from
old Northern word cmid or ffund, battle, v
But it certainly seems most likely to be connecii
with caima^ a reed or cane — which indeed
earliest cjinnona, made of stavea of iron weld!
and hooped together, much resembled (see Bo
tell's Anna and Armottr, ch. xi. nt, I,), I hnj
long understood that the prefix Uim- in ** Gil
ness" and •^Ounthorpc/* names of places on f
river Trent, means reedij but I do cot know j
what authority. There ia ^* Ileednesa " on
Ouse, J. T.
N» KpIscjv Brigg.
GONVIVIAL SONGS.'
(4»'» S. vi. 34, 73, 104, 124, 240, 303, 423.)
I have made a diligent search for the
inquired for by F. C. H., but i^nthout sue
The last line is a proverb, and ia found,
variations — fofu'^ philosophies Sec — in nume
!*ong9. One of the best drinking songa is that j
Adam Billflult aih^ *' Maitre Adam/- It wa
great favourite with Cardinal Uichelieu, who
taiued a royal pension for ** The Virgil of
plane" — the title given to the cai^pentor
There are mauy versions. Th6 variations
consider«ble, aul the metre is not always
same. In tb« following imitation I have omit
a quatrain which, although strictly mytholog
borders on profaneness:^ —
Tiia TUUE Tciraa.
When the sun-beamJi flppcftring
lllntnifie my c/>t.
My cuurse 1 ain steeriDflr
Where drink*- * * r
And I my, "M
YouVp as Ttil
And vet, when ali b tiiiui^^
Can't cotno up to mv nos« ! *'
Tbi u ; ■
A
GTi%. :~. ..^ ., ,
WmiM seUic him <|
It wfujld mftk*» him w
Au ' " ' I, JjL, Sllrrt^t I',
Till Mo
li^ ut Imlei^uth!
Whcn» ripe on a berry,
I chance to depart^
D ye think V\\ he vwy
liitr off fraiu my quart 7
r4"s.vn. Ja3i.si,'-i.i
NOTES AND QUERIES.
59
III start Uy Avcnius
A Uvcni of note,
That Climnm won*t apum ws
He come^i iritm hb boat.
No oave-rat inspector
A spy on mv way p,
ril make a prime ncctAr
That Pluto will praise.
If TantMua incHii'd
1» to pvci me tbe meetlagf
Thirsty d*^ ! he fthall tind
VVioc that knows no retreating!
Ill my "parlour" the l-'uries
Shall jUTnilinj^ly re*t ;
n*er my wine that so pure is
Thryll fmlic and jcf*t*
The P'arcjc their frortals
And weavinf^ shall fjuit.
Letting- poor fated mortals
Alone— for a bit !
K ■ ' Bacchus
; a crack,*
bU' _ k-ai^
Mu^i carry him back.
, And as for Ixion,
I'll make him to feel
(He this may rely on !)
Ills bead is bis wheel !
Shonld I eVr pet pfrrtniwdon
T* emcrg"** from thii gloom,
Id my o^uftl condition
TH vi«it my t«mb.
\j,A i ,1 I 4,j.pg Senear it
n vine,
Yoi ut a spirit
1 Can kick up ft ishlne !
h'f rivr rae a marble —
.'lerstood,
- c^n warble
-> til*-" usondl
>o my t I -k.
With . ihat say
" Tlii» fiou ijf a tla^k
\Vaa tbe fir«t-in hi* way I "
Skuv^ HirxRY Dixon,
(4'*S. tL396,5R)
Roquefort lenders ^Jt, '* cbez, dans ; es unz, #*
^res, chet les un», chei, les autrea"; and h,
Hfi preposition on, dntia, m j void, ecce.
He e*^t encore n*jt^ an palai'**"
ave gives ^^, '* prepoBiiion ever eet before
'^ the plnrali number, m m before those of
iihr, Ih (he^ at fJte, tntOf or tmto the.'^
nnc g^ivfs ** in^ contrac* of m les.'^ Both
Vfitdfl «od Tarver coDnider h» contracted from
» ^«. R. S. ChJ. KNOCK,
iJ^aloiU
' Goiwp, ttUle-tAttU :--
** Come Kiool, aod gie na thy cmcks."
Andmon^s Cttmbntm BallmU.
TIj6 confidence with which Dr, Dixon sQlves
philological difficultiea is something quite re-
in Arkable. In the cttse before us, without a word
of arg-utiient, proof, illuatrEtion, or anj w^irrant
fi'om atitbority (forldeny that Asbome deCkfis te-
la! n m in any sense an authontj), he pronounces
fer cathedra that (1) ^8 and en have the sanie
meanin^^f ; (;2) that '* ^j( ia as good a French word
Hfj m " ; (.'i) that " k9 has nothing to do with m
tes''\ and (4), that ^*ks has nothinjaf to do with any
abbreviation, except it he the Greek etV, from
whence it is derived.^' Ho then gently reproEvches
me, by implication, for not having' referred to ** so
common a French dictionary " as De Chastelain^a,
and a^^sumes that if I had done so I should have
been at once converted to the doctrine of that
author (whoever he may be) that '* es is derived
from tbe Greek.'' The fact iSj however, that Be
Cha$lulaiii a and Ds, Dlxon's *^ giieaa " (for it is
m) thing more) that h is derived from the Greek
weighs littlo with me against the grave authori-
ties of Scheler, Burguy, Littrc^, Ampere, and
Brachet, assuring and convincing me that it has
nothing at all to do with Greek, nut is a contrac-
tion of en hs.
The arp^ument itself may be very briefly
stated. The process which converts tk les into ilch^
nnd then into f/^*, converts eti lea into etils and
tbeo into ens. This form m found, but as tbe
com bin at ion n$ was in early times distasteful to
French tt&rs, p>is soon became w, just as tran^jatit
became treaptiSf and mfmuff en/cjt. Those who
wish to see this little problem fully worked nut,
with illustrations, may consult Scheler, Lit! re,
and Brachet'fl dictionaries, mtbroie^ and especially
Burguy'fl Gravirnaire de Ui Lunym d'Oil, L 54
Unfortunately for Dit, Butojf. ha has not only
laid down rules founded on no other authority than
bis own, but he has ventu.rod to illustrate them by
self-made examplea. He tells us that in France,
Belgium, and Switzerland — countries where
French is spoken— the academical diplomas are
made out in the following fashion; ^* Bachelier eA
Science/' ** Docteur M Droit,*' '* Docteur ^ Phi-
losiophie/* where, as be adds, ^« is used as being
'* more olTicial and classical than tv*." Being
greatly siun^rised at tbis information, I resorted
at once to tne ^reat treasury of the French lan-
guage—Lit tro's noble dictionary — to see if by any
chance such an anomaly as ^* l>octeur e^ Droit '*
had ever found its way into French litt^rature.
I Not one example, however, could I find of ^s be-
t fore a noun in the singular number. •* Ee p«;rils,''
"es mains,*' **e8 bestes,'^ ** es nlautes,*' ^* es arbres,^*
"es lettres," ''es arts," &c., have all been in use
in diflfi^rent stages of French, but never *' es p^ril,"
**es art," &c. It now therefore remains for
Dr. Dixon to tell us where he discovered ♦* es
aciencoy'' " ds droit," and ** ^ philosophte,"
KilduD Gardens.
^^^-
60
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«'S.VII, Jaji.2i,7U
I cannot admit that tlxe word ^s is derived from
the Greek, The French dictionary that aajs so
must be particular ij worthless as regarda ety-
mology. How h h somotimea a contraction of
ekf and snmetiuios of en If^t is explained in Bur-
gay*s Grammairv tie h Ltiftffite ttOUf vol» i, pp. 54,
55 j see ftlao vol, ii. pp. 277, 287.
i, Cintro Terraee, Camhridgc.
THE BALTIMORE AND **OLD MORTALITY"
PATERSONS.
(4^ S, vi. 187, 207, 290, 354.)
Dk. R,4.mage p^ave some interesting papers on
*' Old Mortality '* and hia descendants, expreaauig
no doubts as to the relationship of the Baltimore
Petersons to **Old MortaUtT/' Is he aware that
Sir Walter Scott accepted the statement of Mr.
Train with coasiderabie reserve ? I find the fol-
lowing letter in the work entitled —
** Tho Contcraporarios of Burns ntid the more Recent
Poet* of AynshirLv with Selections from their Writragu/'
Hugh Paton, Edinburgh, 1840«^
to which Dk. Ramaoe has referred (4«^ S. ri,
457) ; —
*♦ 17th April, 1829.
« My dear Tmiin
" Your valuabk c-ommumicAtion arrived in dipping
time, and adda highly to the obligations which ytmr
kindnejH has so often conferred on me. I shall hardly
veritore to mention the eictriiortlinary connexion hHn-ten
the BtmapaH* faitiUi/ and that uf Old Alortultti/^ till I
learn from you how it id made out ; whether by con-
tinued acknowledgment and corTcspi»adeace between th^
faiuUl«» of th» two brothcfji, or otherwise. A atream of
genius (too highly touc<l in the old patriarch) seems to
have run through tla- whole family. The minieiter of
Galjifiihiels 'n a clever man^ and so ia his brother. What
a pity Old Mortality's <|;nivc cannot be dLsooveved 1 I
would L'ertainl}^ erect a monument to hiii meniorv' at my
owii expense."
In reply to this Mr. Train stated that he had been
prevented from answering his kind letter aooner,
Mr. I'ater»on not having drawn up his accottnt of
Im family bo etirly ae promised : —
" I thoai;ht it would be more sotisfact^ry to yua," adda
Mr. Train, *' to bavno an aecount of hia relations in
Amerioa^ written by himself, than anything I ectuld say
on the subject. Although you will st^e thnt what is
stated does not amonnt to po'dtive proof of the Quftn of
Weftphalifta fathirr Imng the «in* of Old Marlalt^ 1 Jbr
my part have no doubt tJiat he waa."
Then it goes on to say that Robert Paterson —
'* givu^s tt disttiiet aceonnt of his brother John c^ailiuf^ in
a v«Mcl called the Golden Male, of White ha von, &om
the Water of Cree lo Galloway for Amerii'a, in tbo year
1774; of Mi xnakiTig u cormiderable fortune dudn;;^ the
Ameriran War ; and of hii; afterwards settlin*^ at Balti-
morOt where he improveil his fbrtunc, married, and be*
came hi^lv respectable. Ho had a son namnd Robert
after Old Qdorta1it>% hb father; and a davgfatar njiantd
Elizabeth after his mother, whose ntaideti name waa<aqi0f .
Robert married an American lady, who, outliving him,
has become Marchioness of Wellealey. EUxabeth wo-i
married to Jerome Bonaparte. Extraordinary n& tbeae
circura'taiioea may appear, Sir WaV rmnced of]
the tnitb of the stateaieut> and i i diihin^
solely in deference to the Duke of Vs
Now I Imve little doubt that Dr. K.U£age U 1
aware of the hesitation which Sir Walter, at onaj
time at least, felt iu accepting the j'elatioosbip
between the two familleEi, and hju probably ex-
amined tke question. Would he do us the favour
to give the grounds on which he assumefl the
relfttioaBhip ? He will also observe that there aie
some additional circumstances noted in what I
have quoted, which do not apnear in the copy <
the paper which he gives. Tnie account stopa i
the sailing of John to America, but here
Train gives some accouat of John'd cnreer id
America. F. B. 1
PEXNYTERSAN, KTC.
(4«»» S. vi, 300, 479.)
J. Civ. R. aays, *'The lowland Scotch au
of Con is an ascertained Scandinavian pen
name, found also in the place called Conn ay , the
Cottodum of the Romans." The Scotch name id
more probably a nickname of Comeliui^f or froo
the Erse-Gaelic cu^ gen. voti^ a dog, metaphorical^*
** hero/' found in composition of many namea
Celtic origin. (Conf. The Four Maden.) Camdei
says ; —
'^ Cow^vium^ mentioned by Antonioiis, rtodved i\s i
from the river; which town, thoQgh it be now
destroyed and the very name, in the place where it etV
oKtinct, yet the antiquity of it is pteoerved in the ppr
name; for in the ruins of it we dnd a email
named Kaer htn, which si^nides the old town . .
river ia colled tn Ptolemy JouotiiM* for CoHoi^iui**
Gibson saj^s the name C&twvium may mean *' i
extraordinary great or prime river.^' Perhaps
more reasonable etymology of Conomim would, "b
from cwn-iiij ** head of the water."
R. S. Chabkock.
(Jray's Inn.
P.S.— J, Ck, R. thinks Tenby a purelr L
name ; and he says the lirst part of ** toe
Tenby seems identical with that of Tenbu _
Worcester. Tnnn, Tetinemn^ TenrUson, are Eng
lish surnames/' I take it that Tennison is i.
Dennifion, ** sou of Bennb,*' i. <?. Diouysius.
One feels his breath almost taken iLWtLj
wading through the long list of names and i
dinavian derivatives given by J. Ck. R. in a rec
number of " N. & Q."
He is very ingenious in constrtdng eresy i
quoted into* Northern origin ; but I, for om*, mv
enter a protest against his neglect of the Weld
derivation of such names aa Tcnhj and P^ntfctei
He appears to act on the injunction of Bisho
Percy, but it tells as forcibly againet binaself i
■i^&VlL Jav.S1.71.]
JIOTES AN© QUERIES.
lie tbioka tt doea agsdnBi those wha put forward
•an J oUier mi^rg^Atioii,
Teob^ WKs ud^ttmlly called Dini^ok f P^teoed^
liAvitt^ W«ii (\ tie Ling etatioti uf the ancient Brt-
toofl. Tb*» UftTuv 18 til us analysed : Bin^ a liill ;
ISfnfc Cft r I of ^irf/j), small, and /^acoerf,
tub^ iKii ■ — ^** the fialiery by the enmll
ittlL** TL;^, 1 L meeive, \& the correct origin of
tbo word ; and benriti)^ in mind the composition
ei Mrerol words fiiraiing one^ in Welsh names,
ibe rules of etyranlctry iire not broken. Denbigh
if aootber namo in v/hich wo hnve Din bech, a
flttAll hill ; pTobii,bly so named from the cam-
pttiion with the hijErher places surrounding' it. In
tht word I^eaxfcun tht^r*? are three ditftinct Wekh
unard^ Tit, Pm t/^ the head or promonton% and
am, tommit. The m.'mner in which auch a name
as tkifl id construed h gurpmin]2^. Supposing the
&amimiirian arigin to be the true one, it fullo\^'^
cat ami] \% I thliiic, that such words as Pen y
^ Penatrywed (written some-
ed) in Montgomeryshire, Pen-
LI in Glamorganahire, P«niarth
Penderin or Peii-y-daren in
,**iurt, mufit testify to Danish or Scan-
' ufluence ; but I am afraid that J, Ck» R.
t permit this. It ia hardly eoimd rea-
• «ay that, because the Danes were io
i!^-. It Adlowsj con-uptcil names mwtf he
V I III iro of the presence of traces of
r isonhem influence in Wale*, but to
nt I nm us yet unable to say ; but so
*^'T<ls in question are concerned^ the
ions are and must be satisfactory io
^ >:udent.
k. R. or any other Norse scholar can
ntiines I have put forward in support
1 to be of Norse origiD, then I ttliall
Lppy to acknowledge my error; but
till then i am content to accept the Webdi ex-
pUaation. J. JEREaiiAn,
onlv
Thp frrsf rf the**? nnmea u clearl}- Celtic. Pen-
nf 1;
lorm ui licii-ii
TIjerc ia an i
uftLi ■ ■ ■ ^
dur
Crr.
Ti
Ian
mau. ..,
Ifat cham i
•spond^i-
{« wife ») cairn or t
iS in Cyjrsric ** the head (or end)
A'* 111 Ctaeiic it would take the
of Cymric forms in many
jjlacefl^ which is probably
ut, midway between the
CTideatly Scandinavian.
" nn or wife — a word
English qmm. It
- i'^ connected with
;. il by your cor-
.:-aify the queen's
'.i.-j l.Lce.
•, h 3 ; ii your correapooden t
dings to the exploded
nvation of such commcm
Welsh names as Conway, Llugwy, &C., is quite
amusing. If Celtic forms, with a Celtic intel-
li^ble meaninj^, found in a Celtic district, are not
eridenco of n Celtic origin, I am at a Jo«a to know
how anj'thing at all is capable of proof. The
science of <>tymology has gnevously suffered from
being id entitled with the goeaaeB and riddles^
frequently ingenious enough, of penons who mis-
understand its very elementa, Aa Max M tiller
observes ^
" Sound ^t yniolfig^ hiis notBog to do with flouud. We
know wi V ' ..£ the same origin wbinh hare not a
i^agle I inmn, ami which differ in meaoing as
much ft I nhite. Mere guessee, how&v«r phrasi-
lile^ are cutnpictely diM:;irdi!:iI from the province of scien-
tific ctymoloi;j% A UcrivatioD, even though it bti trae, is
of no real valae if it oaanot ha proved,'*
Take far instance at random a paaaage from the
letter of J. Uk. II, ^e asserts, without any at-
tempt at proof, that Fm is a porj*onal Danish
name, and then proceeds -^
**Thcro 1^ Prio/t-'iru, i(i Pembrokeshire, oae of the chief
Bettlem^M pr their pn<decQ9sor9 the Pidts
on thv \ii wliidi is fooad Uio pardy
Danish .i«*.... vi >.*.»>.
It would be difficult to bring together in so
^mall a «pace a larger number of fallacies. In
the firnt place Pen-y-civmy the head (or end) of
the hollow, is one of the commonest of TV'ekh
appelhitioud. There is not the fcdightest grrmnd
for the assertion that it wi\s ever a Danish settle-
ment, Wh*:'!) did the Picls settle on the English
coatits ? or if they did, wlj<ere is the evidence of
their ever being in Pembr ^keshlre ?
Then as to the name of Tmihy. The suffix h/
is assumed plausI1>ly enough to indicate a Danish
town or settlement (not a fortrafis). But what of
Tvn^ the preiix f Mr. 'I'aylor says it is a corrup-
tion of iJitne. J. Cfi. R. very conveniently aastimea
it to be a Danish proper name.
Now the facts about Tenby are simply these :
Its orij^inal name was Dynhfch^y^I^jsgod^ **the
little bill-fort by the fisherj'/- which exactly in-
dicates the position of ihe castle rock projecting
into the sea. The Danes harried the coast, in the
tenth eenturv, but effected no settlement here. M
No town existed until the end of the twelfth H
century, when Tenby was fi^unded by the Flem-
ings and English after the destruction of the caatle
by Malgwn, son of Rhys ap Gryffyth, Prince of
vSouth Wales. Tenby then is simply the English
corruption of the original Cymric Dytibyvh^ as
another Dynh^ch in North Wales has by a similar
process become Deahiyh.
If etymotoftl/ is ever to take iti* proper rank as
a true science, the first thing to lir <lr,n»t is to
discard all such fanciful and bast i^,
and to build upon tht^ aoUd basis >:
J. A. Picro^
Bandy knowe, WaverLrta&« lavct^oA^,
I
I
la
J
62
NOTES AND QCERIES.
[i»^ i5, VII. JjLS. 21, *71,
Fbaj!iCis, Eakl of Both well (4^* S. vi. 4220
AxGLO-Scotus says that Fraacis Stewart, son of
Jpines Stewart, Commend ator of MMlrosaud Kelso,
was created firl of Bothwell in 1587 by Jamea
VI. I do Bot pretend to etiter into Ihea^ quea-
tiona with ono so thoroughly conversant with auch
subjecta, but it may intereat him to have his
attention drawn to* the following old^ charter,
wlilch accidentally came under my notice when
I was investigating the '* Temple-lands" of Bnm-
IHesshire, and which seems to contradict the
statement aa to the year when he was mitde Earl
of Bothwell. The charter, of which I have a
copy, waa among the archives of the '* liirk-
Satricka ■* of Closebum. It is a charter by
amea VI. dated ** apud DunfermeliDg pennltimo
die Meosis Junii anno Domini milleaimo qtiingen-
teaimo octagefiimo sexto regni nostri decJmo
nono," The witnesses are —
*' Ferdilectis nostds coDsanguiouis et conaiUariiB JoAnne
DoinJnc» JIacuiltoun, commemiatod(» moDAdtcrii noatri
tie AU'rbrotbek. Archibftldo Anj^usk, comite, Domina
Di^lbji le$< ? ct Abemethie, Kcverendl^mo Ac
yeaerabill pro patribaa Patrlciu Sanctiaodre Arcbi-
u[ji»otipo» Wakero priore de Blantyrc nostri secreii wplli
custodts i dllucti^ nostria famlliaribiia «t cora^iliariis, Da*
mino Joonne Maitland de Thirli«tanc mllitc nojstro ^cre-
tariu, Alexandro Hay do Eiatur/' dc.
Thk charter is coafiimatory of the ch arch-lands
and temple-lands of Glosebum to ** Petro Col-
Uce/' which bad been graoted by a charter {which
ia recited) of Francis Earl of Bothwell: "Perdilec-
tiim nostrum consiliarium Franciscum comitem
de Bothwell, dominum Hmllis et commend atoreni
monaiterii de Kelso/* and this charter was signed
•' apud Castrum de Creichton die viceaimo quarto
men^e Jaouarii, anno Domini millesimo, qum^^en-
teaimo octageaimo qninto,'*
Here we have Francis Stewart styled in this
charter of Jan ufljy, 158*5, as Earl of Bothwell. 1
throw out this hint for the conaidetation of
x\jfGLo-S€DTTrs, without pretending to give an
opinion on the fiubject.
Ceaufued Tait Ramaqe.
Mount Caltabt (4«*' S. vL 542.)— The holy
Scripture, it ia true, says nothing as to the place
called Goljjotha lwln«f a mountain or a vitlley.
But the universal custom of calling it a " mount ''
could only bare arisen from a knowledge of the
spot, and the tradition of the first ages of the
Christian Church. J, \V. 11. observes that '* if
the tradiiion of aii eminence were of respectable
antiquity, it might be," &c. ; by which he seems
to doubt if it be of reapectable antiquity. 1 think
the testimony of St. Cyril ought alone to suthce
on this point. St. Cyril was Bishop of Jerusalem
ia the fourth century, and there be delivered hh
famous CaUchesefty or catechetical instructiona, in
sight of the hoi? plaoes. In his 13th Catechems
he distinctly speaks of Calvary as a holy eminmce
still to be seen, and as bearing witness at that
vety time of the rending of the rocks at oi^h
Lord's Cruel Bxion, by the appearance of its rocIgH
aurface. These are bia woros : — ^^
* *0 TaKyoOas ovros & S^ytos^ ^ uwtpaimmisf xal fUxp*
eHlfifpov paiyAfitvoTf iced Scurvei?i' H^XP*^ *'£*' 5jr»i dik
Xpurry al wirpat rort 4^dyijaav** {CcUtckesis xiij.
5 xxxix,) _
(That holy and »uperemi$ttpt Golgotha ; and to be m:<^|
at this day, and sbuwiug even now, bow by Chtist tb^H
rocka were then rent.)
F. C, II.
Them are at least two passages of earlier date
than the middle of the eleventh century (the time
when Mb. FERGtrsox auppoaes the transference of
the Holy Sepulchre to the western hill t*:* have
taken place), in which Calvary is referred to as ft
" mount/' The one ia in the Eccksia^ical Jli^
tory of SozomvHf iL 1, where it is said that the
Greeks, " the more effectually to conceal them,
had enclosed the place of the resurrection and
Mount Calvary within a wall " ; the other in the
tract of Theodorus, written somewhere about the
end of the sixth century, where it is said, apeakinir
of Calvary, that the mount is stony, and that the
ascent to the mount is by steps' (See Eetmf
itrchaolofffqite, Aug. 18(J4, p. 100, and Paletiimet
Descriptiones ex Stgculoj iv, v, et vi. Titus Tobler,
St G alien ^ 18^.) There is a curious passage
a later dwte in Geoffrey de Vinsaufs Ititieranj
Kirtf/ J^icAard i. cap. 79, where, speaking of i "
capture of Jerusalem in a.d. 1187, the writi
says : —
" When the city vr as taken, the crier of the Mabometl
law procsetidcd to the summit of the reck of Calvarr^ an
there publiflhed their false law in the place where thrf
had o(in Hum mated the law of death upoo the cross/* (S
Bohn's Chritnicieiofthc CrusadBii, ^t. TQ-SO.)
Alkx. B. M'Gbioob.
19, Woodfiido Terrace, Ginsgow.
Rhyme to ** Widow" (4*" S. yi. J^45, U^
659.) — libymes might he multiplied* Skiddan
Kiddow (a CorniBh birii)| and if proper names i
allowed —
1. "Fie-fie. Monsieur Dido;
WJiat, jilt the |ioor widow ? »*
2. ** Aa Sir Koger do Cov«rlf y»
So erost vr&a in love early,
B}' n beautiful widow, «
A ycomftu hight Prideaux." ,
Ch^^rlss TniBiQt
Cambridge.
Falls of Foters and Glamha (i** S. Tt.501]
The name Foyers, which I iind Bot down in (
old map aa '^I'oira/' I take to he a corruptions
the Old Norse for^, Norwegian f&«s, a waterfall,
from Old Norse forsa, to rush furioussly. The_
EDj^liah word faii is an adventitious accretioi^
ohvloualj^ superiudueed after the original meanii^"
of the niuBe had ceased to be understood. **Fa
of FoyerSj*' in point of fact, meaDS " Fall
4»S.VIL Jjw.«l,7l0
NOTES AND QUERIES.
r '
L
I
WftterfiilL" A simikr imposition is found in the
name Strathhelmaaftle (*' Stratli " and "dale"
being words of like significance), and in the name
iif that group of islands belonging to Denmark
called the Faroes, to which we apply the redun-
diiiJt denomination of Fartw? I^e9 — oe and isle being
i^ne And the same. Tbe general uame for a water-
faH through on t Cumberland is force. The deriva-
liun of the name Glamma ia not quite so evident^
K«t may either be the Icelandic fflmtm, the name
iH a tnan, and d^ a rirer, or p^Msibly ^ittrtir* an
oril spirit — the supposed abode of the water-fiend.
r ' :' n mentions "the cascade of Glamma" as
'■amidst the constant darknesa of hills
'" -^ - -1 t^r^culiftrities, not only Bug-
and imaginfltivc people,
.■m »ii,. Lii, known belief of tbeKorth*
the mountain peaks and hidden recesep^
, .. \ lUey were inhabited by supenintural
b. iij^r^t >V hftt renders this solution st>mewhat
!■ I J.L 1^ tliat in a very old map tiiiB nnmo is
inoir.*' In Norway is the river
** meanings of which may be either
iiif Tivi?r spirit," or •* 01aum*8 rirer," or poa-
^ jd>vlr '^TIj*^ turbid Tirer'* — Gorman qlum^ tur-
J. Ck, R.
rs....,n. .vw; ^4 ,,. V, 563; yi/
mentioned by Mb-
and th£ Automtdon
'ctffd) has been at-
. ._ . i , ^ i ;, F,R.S,f oi^d fflther
^UTdAudlejr, , ^.KA^iV.
t) G : "A Hide from TARiiOTrrtr to
Walm '^ (4* S. Yi. 529.) — I can confirm the nccu-
^ '* "^ . MArEEs iitatement re-
^juiel and the ' ' HemarkB "
^'R-iiiei I :» ' juu riMnaij^i a seric-s of plav^^ eighty-
i««e«f wbichwerepublisljprj by Dolby before tlie
tv..,i ^r,^^. A 'yr^^,-^ ^{j. Cimiberland'H hands. The
tions which prefaced these eighty-
.... were then cancelled to make room
LQiBl'** Those who, like myself, had op-
_i_ -^ of knowing that voluble gentleman,
roost hare relished your interpretation of the
tSt D G — ~* : but not many of even these
«we Rware thiit when that model of *' self-repres-
e Si?otcfa word fftamer, to exercise a
"* ' Xek«d. in Norwflv, derives itd
r spirit culled the ^eck": he&cc,
- OM Nick '' applied to designate
t
ftim- 1;-- i;,
tb? Devil,
t Thff name, ft h said, contains " the demonfttrative
' -^ ' '*"^ word a, a river, lieotiming ia Old Norse <Sw,
I he old form of the name of our own northern
1\' afford? an example of this, vij,— ** Ai)ir-
id the entrance of the
A I .16fr, not yet record ed
Uie f>*j^*=- ^T .^. ^-T. V,. ^n .^..^iiiort, ft small seaport of
»«riray, f«rty-^1it mile^ louth-west of CbrlJ«tiAfifl*
slon/' George IV., when Prince of Wales » was
reported to have received a well-de.9ervod chastise-
ment from Lord Yarmouth, on account of Lady
Yarmouth, Mr. Effingham Wilson, of the Boyal
Kxchange, issued a versified account of the affair,
intituled A Mide from Yartnouth to Wales, This
squib was written by George Daniel. It was
bought up on the morning of publicatinn at the
cost of some thousands of pounds. But although
bought up at this cost I will be bound to sav that
a copy of it was found among Mr. Daniers library
accumulations. JoHX Watsok DAtnT.*
Richmond, Surrey,
It is stated in an editorial note that it is poa-
fiible that, tin index hand poiatiug toD G- —
; (George I)ani>>l) might be used hy tlie writer in
I reference to the bandwriliug on the wall, indi-
' cftting that he was ** a Darnel come to judp^mcnt,*'
Surely the phrase, as used by Shakespeare in his
; Merchant of Vvnice^ refers to the apocryphal slory
I of Susannah and the Elders, aud not to BelsLaz-
j 2ar*s Feast. Daniel was not a judge in the latter
case, but be was in the former. ,
K L. BLENKIK80FP,
Bprlngtborpe Rectory,
**WniwNy Moor*' (4*^ S. vL 50:1)— Tliis poem
hfis been printed, with an important dJasertation,
in the appendix to the Pjev. J, 0. Atkinson^s
Ofi\v<*iry (if the Cleveland Duilect, p, 505. It may
also be seeo, cornictly priuted from the only
known manuscript^ in my edition of Mvrc^s /«-
dructioHsfor PariihPneds (E. E, T. S.^'p. 90.
EnwABD Peacock.
Bottesfont Manor. Brigg.
'^Shii took tee Cup," etc* (4** S. vL 6260-^
These lines are to be found iu th^ Armidiiu's Cami,
*^ editio qunrta/* p. 147. They are there head csd
" Epitaph/^ and '* Anon. ' * is appended. They are
thus rendered into Latin verse by Dr- Kennedy^
the late Head-Master of Shrewsbury : —
** Parvula ItbArat vH«im MtUitilU : sed elveu I
Di?iph>(dt nitniii potui* amarttin :
Ltniter amovit tenero crfttera laliollo,
Atque ileruat wmoo Itimina corapostiiL"
The lines, I imagine, form one of those epitaphs
60 common iu chm'diyards, of wbich it is so dili^*
cult to trace the paternity.
" JOHK PlCKFOSI), M. A,
Bolton Percy, netr Tadcaster.
LANCAsiirRK FuxniUL FoLX Lore (4"^ 8. vi.
406.) — The writer of the paragraph you have in-
serted from the liatlif Tek^rnph is mistaken in
supposing that the noor Hindley people used sprigs
of box af^ a bumble substitute for rosemary or
thyme* The use of the latter planti would pro-
bably have been as foreign to their notions as the
obolus for Charon, or the honey coke for Cerberuu ;
but the use of box is so universal among the
humbler classes in the neighbourhood referred to,
I
G4
NOTES AXD QUERTES.
[4*J»S.nr. Jaw. 21,*
tbat, as a plant grown in garden*, U ia commonly
spoken of aa " buryinff-box " ; and it is no doubt
panted in cottage gardens for tlie express puqioae.
The custom ia all tided to hy Words-vrorth in hia
Httlt^ poem of ** The Childless Fatber":—
**Frc9b tprigs* of green box-wood, not six moDtlis
Filled tbe fiiBemil baiia' nt Timothy *9 door."
And in a not© (vot i, p. 203, ed. 1827) it h stated
that —
** In several parts of the Xortb of En^laodt wh^cn n
fuueral takes pi nee, a basin full of sprigs of box- wood is
placed at the door of the hotise from which th« cofSo U
taken up, uiil each putson who attends the fancrol ordi-
narily takes a sprig of the box-wood, and tiirows it into
the ^rave of th<f deceosod/'
Qy. the origin of the custom ? J. R M^.
Nicolas Faiol (4* S. vi. 640.> — Thw priaat
and French grammarian «old the MB. of hie
grammar to Al<?Asri<, Lonirman : he ^jm then living
in Vomers To'^rn, near the present Catholic chuivh.
The firm still holds the transler of the copTiight
and the cheque. Jambs Gil^but,
51, Hill StrciJt. PtM^khmm, S.E,
The Hon. Catiteeixe SoirTircoTE (4*** S, ti.
546.) — Although I am not abl& to identify this
lady, who is stated by yoiir cf^r"-^ " ^H »nt
J. C. Ct. H. to have been living in 17 ljvs
the following informatibn ma? pr<Tve • , . . to
him. A '* iWie Catherine f^outhcntt aiw^ Fair-
fax, widow," was one of the parli"?^ to an inden-
ture bearing date Aug. 25, 27 Clia^ II. ri075),
and recit<»d in the will of Rojirer Palmer, Earl of
Caetlemaine, in lOlKJ (Mi^c. Gen. ti UtJ\, i. 152).
She was the daughter and heireas of John Elliott,
Esq^t of the county of Esses. Ji^he married, first,
Sir George Bouthcote, Bart*» of Bliborough, co.
Lincoln, who died in 10*14, leavinir issue a son,
Georga, at whose decease, before lOiU, the baron-
etcy IS said to have expired, and a daughter, Ca«
therine, who became the wife of Jame^ Palmor,
E^., brother to the above-mentioned Earl of
Oastlemaine. Lady Sonthente married, secondly,
in 1665, the Hononroble Nicholas Fairfax, \
younger mn of Thomiia, second Visconiit Fairlhx,
of GilUng Castle^ co, York, by whom sh« had,
with other issue, a daughter Marv, who was
bapldzed at Walton, Aug. 3, llUJG.
ROBBBT IL SCAIFE.
The Mount, York.
'* Bklb Laws of Connecticut '' (4**' S. vi. 486 ;
vii* lfl,)^Iu answer to Mr. Pii-ton/I give at fiill
the title-page of the smftll book from which I
took the qojotation mentioaed by him : —
**ThL' f'4ide «f IGHO, being a Compitatioti of th«? cafUnt
Lttw«i aad Urdani of the Ireneral Court of ConadetJeatl;
aba UiQ Conttli&utioni or Civil Compact ento rod into and
Sarelv thi* ii the correct reading.
**"*» it ii priritefl *' spring!*,*'
In the above
adopted by tho Towns of Windsor, Ilart^brd^ sad
WcthersffehJ in 1(138-9. To ^vhich ii added, some Ea
tracts from the Laws and Jndidal Proceedings of Ncfl
biLvcn Colony, oornmouly called Blue Lawfv Hartfv^rd;
published by Silas Andrus, 1825."
I shall be happy to Icmd the book (1
lSOpp,» one woodcut, iiill page) to >!». Pici,
he WK^iea to see it, and w^ll write to m© thm
the office of ** N, & Q.'' Nbfb^ta '
[Let as take this opportunih- of doing what we hm
iiitcndE'd to do before — c»U Ma. Picto^'s attt'ntion t,
« vain able article by a gentleman connected with tht? .Htatc
Library, tUrtfbrd.'Coaneciicut, on '^Tbe Blu« Laws*' id
our I** S. xi. 321, which givea the hiatory of this
tended code]
Tmu " SH.\ir-VAx Vo€iht'' (4*«» S. vi. 477, sasj
There are two versions of this song, one 1
"'Tis a^orions moonlight night,*'
and another,
*• There are ship* upon the aea."
in the VTcarintj of the Green Surtg Hook, publishc4
by Cameron and Ferguson, Glasgow,
James Rbo
FnisT Book FBnrTSi) w MA^cHKhTER {\^[
ill. n7, 150.)— No earlier exemplar of our "
Chester prees than that named in my form«»r i
mutiicatioQ appears to bo known, and yet it seen
probable that 30 mem fiy hereafter be found. M
John Gwe*u of Manchester ha^ favoured m*» witj
the follnwin;.-, which ho copied from an rnlry
the registers of the ManchcBtor Cathedml; —
•* 1G93, March. — Jonathan, son «f John Gre«.'a, Ma
che*t<«r, Priot' r, bopti^d.'*
It is also pn^>ible that some of the Lanca
Civil War Trncti?, i^ued ^7., may have been
fruits of a locivl pres«. William E. A. Ax ox.
MiasALE AJ> vsm^ SARrj* (4**' S. vL 430,
Your learned corresipondent F. C. H., repl;
a query of Antmum Regk as t/> the
Sarum Mi.^al in the possession of the latterj
that the owner may determine whether or do
edition in question is that published by Pel
Violette in 1509 **by ascertaioing in what ~'
about that time Easter fell on MiU^h 27/' I
just purchased a copy of that curiotis book» X\\
BacttjUgmm Ecckfnn&tums of Pompeius Li
fo, Venice, 1613, Thia most laborious cak
g;ive« two tables, the one .supplying the day
month on which Easter diiy fell from A.D.
A.D. 15h 2 inclusive, the other carrying on th«
table from \.ii. 1583 to a.d. J=^190 I ' By these tables
I find that the years nearest to ir)01> io wltich
Efvster Bay fell *on March 27 were 1440, 1 *ifJ2,
1513, 1524, and 1022. It ia somewhat pro vokin^^
that tliree of these dates should be so near 15011,
whilst the other two are remote, thus perhaps
little perplexing your correspondent Ak
KEf^E. " W. Sparrow SniP902f
1« S. Vn. lASk M, Tt.]
NOTES AXD QUERIED.
If Toa
uall
tpphr to X£eT. W. G, IleDdet-soi], B.CX.,
kl Leeds, jou will fiod him leanit^d
Cflnaectcd ivitli i^imim «tid aihcx
On ill
aotns zelatin^ to enrlr printers or
old U|ttifgwi|iliT, Tcm iroiild do well to sijow ]Four
Labmrym af IIerefi:ird CiUJiedriil.
TsT BonxwoEJi (4** S, vi. vii>7.)— I cannot fur-
otf^ouxrv than one ia^tJincK' of the.' ravagefi of book-
VQCBsinAay volume of so re cent (JatoaslToO; bat I
yv»» oM cop; of St. Jerom ol' IBlO^ in follo^ vrbicb
h$ haen f«nr aftddifiiu^lj f/oue throH^h hy book-
wmsm^ I oould collect from h niaDy examplosi,
bal the two foUowiog maj suffice. One perfoni-
doa ggctendft tkrougb tbirtj lenTe^^ wbicb togetber
t1i»« odie-eigbtk of an innh thick, Ita
focb and one-eigbth, grc^fttest
,s of aa incli. Another per-
u-ftTea, one-^ig-btb of on inch
i litest lenplh is one incb.
— "Tm ha& mad*? a complete
fa-
ami
d threo-ei^rhtbs broad,
Mf the i.*]iind has
ving A bole of tbe
seems to be fa&ti-
in bifi way, having
11 LookBf which
to sGiLson for
- r, I have on«
boos nmtftd is I6ilt decidediv worm-eaten.
K C. H.
I bat« r. 1), and, after
mtBW Qfii{ui< over any one
wbi» lia& in ha known u* ^ia ? I infer
htm tin oMsatiaix of bis i uat about the
( «i tii« la«t oentuT)' some new ingredient
liaoed in the manuiiicture of pnpor which
► not lik4?, I bane an eilJtion > a ^t' jutui^iif^
ifoliL r*SMin L-^S, tb« cftlf binilinp of wiueh i.^
igrtW^i ' ^Kif not been
MMir- whf^n n book
li*'w©nnea| .'^^v ^-r, in tii^.r racni-L^u^s: and I du
not leoMVilier any oj3« so marked of a Iat»^r date
11. B.C.
pfc"
' by tho
I^
ui ento-
ESgi-
iiiiiM" ut-*fct from
F^'
miidonxliDg jour
narfos
,...1 LLTof th«irhole».
Geiiflrfl
-lie ia confined to old
!>■'-
' «>T appear to be pro-
»-
' <3r or other pecti-
K:
^ to tbe coulrarv,
i
.:jW,
1 am able to produce,
L w
Amititaj printed at Florence
in 1^*51. wbirb tliH CPtfafiir* has minniisl
for, .:n
thi' • . . .. ■ ■ • nd
volumi: ol' the London edition of Johnson's Zf'ret
of th* Pot^ lT8.'i j aad a volume of AVbiFton'a
Jo9tjj/m8, 17*^7. C. W. BtN'GHJiir.
The Kkv. F. nxTEBOAl., Librarian of Hereford
Cathedral, will be mo^t happy to give tbe writer
some information* and abo gome samples of paper
eaten recently by bookwonns on being favouied
with name} and address.
Ttte Zodiac of Dexi>ebau (4"' 8. vi. 529. 1 — I
have no knowledge of the calciUii^oQS of Mr.
John Cole in 1824^ whei^bj he estimates tbe
zodiac of Tentyra (= Dendemh) to date from
2261 B.C. This sculpture, of circular form, about
five feet in diameter, waa di?coverpd by General
Deaahc^and waa brought to P ']' From the
Greek inscriptions on the teiu , cderah and
Efioe, ChtuupoUion and Lt ii' ime asoertitined
&c.). that those ediUcea were constructed or
tini.^bed dtiring the ^in^% of the Roman emperors.
But the antiquity of the zodiacal scheme or map
there represented is another matter. Depuis car-
ried it to 1*>0 centuries before tbe Christian erjt.
which, however, was afterwards reduced to about
four centuries d.c {Origrtie desr CttlUj*, 179G.)
When JoUoifl and Devilliera saw tbe stone, they
at onL»e detected ligurea nearly similar to those
represented ou tbe celestial globes of tbe present
day. Biot (HechefX'heH sur l AHroiwmit Egypti-
etmc) showed that this rodiac represented the
poaitioTi which the polo of the world mu^t have
occt ' t the yenr 71(i n.c, ; also, that the
/.ndi itave tbo position of about 700 n»c.
It is tu bu ufcerved tnat ivhilst the pyntniiiia
coiuddo with the meridian, the axis of the temple
of Denderah deviates 17 degrees, and that of tnc
small temple at Esne 71 degrees from the meri-
dian^ both of tliem being from tJie north towards
t!i»^ e'fl^t. T. J, BUCKTOI^.
' i* RichiDond Place, Brig:bton.
I The small plaub'phero which was on the ceiling
I of one of the lateral chjiuibers of the temple of
' 1 Irithor behind the Pronads, is now to be found in
I tbe Fgyptian museum of the J^ouvre. The three
' zntHac^ known in Fj^^ypt as Dendera, Esne, and
I Fliayr are all of the rtoUnnaic or Tlonian eras.
On good authority, the planisphere in questio
I dates back little more than 1600 years.
I A. S, W.
Uniciu Club,
Jacob BiiHiLE (4*^ S. vi. 520.)— The followiaff
J a the tith? page of one of the works mentioned
by your correspoacleut Mk. Barclav. It is in
my possession, and if tliis edition is of the slightest
service to your correspondent I will lend it him
with plea^ftire.
I
I
I
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NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4«kS, VILJ4jr.il, 71.
«TUo Third Dooke of the Author, being The High and
Dcvpe Searcbing out of the Threefold Life of Mad throngh
[or ftceording to] the Three Prmdples, by Jacob Behmen
iJki8 Teatonicu3 Philusuphiis, Written in the German
Lan;?Uijfe, Anno 1620, Ln^^lished by J. Sparrow, Bar-
rislLT, of the Inner Temple, London. London : Printed
bv M. S^ far H. Blanden, at the Cuatle in Com Hill,
1660."
JOHS Yakkeb,
4^ Chorlton Road, Mancheater.
Hair orowdig aftbr Death {4*'» S. vi. 524.)
As a paraDel case tx> that cited hr Mr. FlciLPORD,
J transcribe the following from Iiawtbonie*B J^n^-
iish Not4* Books (vol. i. p. fHl) t —
" The grandroollier of Mr*. died fifty years ago,
at the ac^e of twenty-eigfaL She had great personal
cbarni^. iind amon^ them a head of beantifm] chestnut
hair. Afttr her burial in a family tomb, th« coffin of one
of her cliildren was laid ou her own, so that the lid acenib
to have decayedr or been broken from this cause ; at any
rate Uik wai the coae when the tomb w^s opened, about
a year ago.*'
Hawthorne wrote on Good Friday, 1864: —
** Th"? gn''in*lniotber^s coffin was then found tu ho filled
with benutirid glossy living ohestnat nnght^ into which
her whole subatance'seoms to have been iranafarmetl, for
there was nothing eUe but the^e ahinhig curb, the growth
of hnlf a ccnturi', in the tomb."
A reuiflTkable insbitice to the contrary will bo
found in Sir Henry Ilalford's at-tiomit of the open-
ing of the coflin of Charles L in 1813. {/Vi*? Life
0/ James IL, by the Rev. J. S. Clarke, LL.D.,
ToL ii. App. iv. pp> 009-70,)
**The pointed beard, so characteristic of the period of
the reign of King Charle.% was perfect The back
part of the scalp was entirely perfect, and had a romark>
ably fre^h nppearance— the pores of the akin being more
disLinL't-, as the}* asiially are when soaked in moisture;;
and the tendons and ligaments of the neck wen^ of v.vn-
Miderable aubstaiieo and Jirmnesa. The hair was thick at
tlie hack part of the he^jd, und in appearance necirly
black. A portion of it, which has since been cleaned and
dried, ia of a beautiful diirk brown colour. That of the
beard wns a rodder brown. On the back |^ftrt of t!ie head
it waj more than an inch in lengthy and had been pro-
bably cut BO short for the couvenieuco of the executioner,
or, perhaps, by the piety of frieuds aoon after death, in
order to furnish memoriak of thu unhappy king."
The indcstnictihility of hair ia shown by the
fact that at tlia same time a portion of Henry
VHL's l>eard was discovered to ''remain upon
the chin/'
It may he thought that the moist condition of
King Cliiirlea's bead prevented the poathumous
growth of hia hair. But as a general rule mois-
ture induces hair to grow. At Whitby, last year,
a young man' was drowned while bathing, and
his body carried out with the tide. At the tlood,
two or three days after, bis rtjinaios were re-
t*OTered, and his hair was found to have grown
between three and four inches.
S. K. TOWNSHEND MATBB.
• Whose maojc, for obvious reoiions, I do not give.
Barbara^ DtrciiBss of Clevelaitij (4*** S. t.
401,)^ Your correspondent G. S. S., who is en- i
gaged upon a life of this lady, asks for evidence of I
her *'■ asserted remdence at Ohiswick." In a MS.1
note of Horace VValpole'a (pene/t me), I find it J
stated — " The Duchess of Clereknd died at heTJ
house at Chiswick of a dropay/ Oct. 0, 170S).''I
And the burial registers of the parish (which 1 1
had occasion to consult some time since) record: J
'* Barbara Villiers, Duchess of Cleveland, OcL 13.|
170a'' Edward F. RoiBAULT.
Ajs inedited Elkqt by Oliter GOLBSl
(4** S. vii. 0:)— It would be indeed "poorGoldy,"
as your correspondent *' Moorland Lad " style
bim, if in 1770 he could descend so low as t(
produce sucb a specimen of the hatha') M tbii
miaerahle elegy. Any attempt to foist such trash
upon the author of the Traveller and the Deserted
I illage can oidy be met a8 the poetaster was of
Yore, ** Musae furcillis prtecipitem ejiciunt '* ; luidL
1 cannot but think that the careful superintend-^
ence which ia generally exercised over what ap-
pears in *' N, & Q.'* was somewhat at fault whcnjf
such a com muni cat ion as the one I am refer '
to was allowed to pt^s muster without some-l
editorial comment. 1 can imturin© the expre»sioa«|
in the face of my friend Mr. John Forater, Gold--
8mith*s admirable biographer, on having the lined!
MooRLAiJD Lad has prcduced put before him asl
a genuine addition to that charming poetry which]
he has iUuBtrated so well J as. Cbosslet,
Oliver thr Spy {^^ S. ix. 21, 87, 362, 52$»;
The name of this character, once so notorious,'
appears thrive or four timea in your earlier indexes j'
his euhaequent career after he retired from the pub-
lic gaze on the conviction of Thistlewood may nol
be 80 well known. In 1820 or 1821 he was sent oul
to the Cape with letters of recommendation for
Bervices to Lord Charles Somerset, then ffovem<
of the colony, who appointed him to the lucrati'
and resDonaible position of superintendent of pu'
lie worlca, in which oflice he built the preseal
English cathedral and Government House at Gm
ham^a Town on the ea8tern frontier, two of the^
ugliest buildings that can possibly De concer
and which cost enormous aums of money, the ex-
penditure of which could never be very accurateli
accounted for. Oliver died in Cape Town in ISf
under the name of Jones, his widow survi^
bim for some years. He was, I believe,
of his class who was rewarded by a hao<_
colonial appointment for his diabolical tread
to bin eoimtrymen at home. IL II.
Portsmouth.
-l^aVTI. Jan. 21/71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
Omeerdanrt to «*« C^ruiiaii Year. (Parker.)
Mmtrm^M orrr "The Chrittian Tf<ir** ami ^^ Lyra Ivtno-
emtittm.** ^y Charlotte Mary Yonge. Topether tcith
afnt Ghamnga of Ret^tec^nt of the Rev, dnhn Keblt^
pmtAered bp Bevernl Hand»» (Farker.)
"*' " f\n ihow more clearly Jiow tcniicioufl k the
h: n»e Otri^vm Vt^xr haa takea of the rcUgioQii
n liiid^ and bow deep is the reverciictj in which
:! of John Keblo ia lield, not only hv those
^ the blessrog of his friendship, but by* thoo-
•Hids wno kOQW tiim only by hij9 worki«^ than the two
bwkft wbo«e titles we have' jui^t transcribed. Nearly two
<Hlit«ri»ft elapsed, after the death of Shnk&^peare, before
the world was famished with a concordance to hia writ-
ings ; and the »«ine period, or nearly mj, before the poema
of Milton recdved the same reco(jnitioii ; and with the
cxcepticni of the Laureate, to whose poem^ a cont'ordanre
irat published little more than a tweWemonth ago, KeMe
u the only modaro poet ao read and quoted nn to call for
foch an Vccompaoiroent to his writings. The second
book ii» of even a more interesting character. It con-
tain?, not only gleanings from thirtv years' intercouriic
with Keble from the pen of Miss I'onge, but iimifar
nvoiDections contribated by other friend^ which mtl be
read with great interest by all who lore to dwell upon
Harder Vicarage and its pious honsehoM; but wnat
will beVcry acceptable to all the atlmirers of Keble, an in-
ter* :?tiTii: numiiig commentary, explnifjinpr al I unions, clear-
ir yiasAa^ea, and uuvi iling hitlden beauties, in
-* of devotionil poems, which have leavened
rjit;iyus literature of the day to an extent of which
Ib diflicnlt to foresee the limit.
Haydn Serits. A Dittionary of Science, comprising
Attriimnmjf, Chcmiitry^ Dymxmictt Electricity, Hea't^
ff^tfrryrfr/namics^ Hydroitatics, Lights AIagntti»m^ Me-
^tttoToIn^^ Fneumaiics, Sounds and Static k.
fan EMtay on the FkuMical ScienccM. Edited
. ., i:ijdwen, F.RA.S*, F.C.S. (Moxon.)
There ean be no queation of the utility of book§ of this
rfeafocter when properly executed. They are frpecially
s^^»es of n?adera. They are useful to
r.ally denre infonntttion upon special
; ! knowledge, but wht^e avocations
, time^ to devote to a thoroutch fttudy
V are uAeful ahn ajt compendiuiTKt of
or tiiose who io these daj^*B of com|ii«titlve
— when everybody ia expected to know
-f-' to obtam a general, if not thorough
'ical science. It is no wonder, there*
; I -^hers of Haydn's Dfcfiofliiry of iJaten,
ikj, taict>iiraf^cd bv the sncoesa of that invaluabk h;ind-
tiMsl^ have decided on publishing a series of anahi^ous
v,.f,^ir.... .K....1J r.lloTu^ yp their Dictionary of Biogrtiphy
7 of Science; and they ha%e done
in its preparation the aMiataoce of the
t men whose names are recorded in the Li»t
]^ which precedes thcEditor'ii **■ Hi>^tory of
Enq., of Tork, a suflldent guarantee u given of the ac-
curacy and value of the Journals To add to tho ui^eful-
ne«a of the book, a most carefully compiled index is
appended, in which nearly every person and place is
mentioned.
Sm John Maclsa;* . — We are pleajod to reoofd that
the Gatttte of Tuesday aciBOuac^ that the Queen hud
been ph'OBcd to confer the honour of Ktiij^htbood on Isir
.John il A clean, Depaty Auditor of the War Office ; for
the f^ntlemau in qoi^Htion, who iti the author of The Life
o£ iSr> Peter Cairir, pubEi«»hed in 18o7, and the historian of
The Dtanery of Brtpp Manor^ in the county of Cornwalli
has he* n, a^ our reiiVlers will retnettiber, a frequent oou-
tributor to thK*c pages.
Thk Death uf thk D&as op Cakterboat. — The
Kev. llenrj' Alford, 1>.I>,, died at Canterbury on rhwrsdoy
week, after a very abort ilhie."4N, be having preached at
the Cathedral on the prec^'ding Sundny. In Dean Alford
\ the Church of England hiLs lost one of the most active,
intelli^^ent, and liberal of her »ons ; and if any evidence
were wanting as to the hi^h character of the lamented
dignitary it would be found m the presence at his funeral
of men of all i^badea of religious opinion. The Bishops of
Gloucester and Salisbury, the Dcaus of Westminster and
Ely, tho Ilev. Dr. Stoughton, and the Rev. Newman
Hall, all alike testltied by their attendance their seu^ of
tho worth of this eminent Christiao scholar.
Thje Ashholeax Museum,— The new Keeper of tha
Ashmolean Mnsetun, Mr. Parker of Oxford — whose zej"
and knowledge vie with each other — has junt piiblishei
the interesting Lectare on ** The History, Present Stat
and Prospects of the Collection " under his charge, d(
liverod by him to the Oxford Architectural and Hi
torical Societj^ in November last, which our readen will '
find well worthy of their attention.
Intehmatiosal Exhibition uf 187L — The following
noblemen ond i;€ntk'men have consented to act as judges
to select paiii^tings for ilio forthcoming Exhibition : —
The Viscount Bury, M.P. ; Thi- Loptl Elcbo, M.P.; S"
Coutts Lindsay, Bart,: Altred Elmore, Esq., RA. (repn
aenting the Royal Acnil+my) , Alfred Clint, Esq. (rcpre^ '
sentiilg the Society <ir llrilr^h Artists) ; Alfred Hunt^ Esq.
(representing the ijoriity of Painters in Water Cokmri^) ;
Henry Wurren, Esq, (reprtt^oniing: the Institute of Pain-
tera in Water Colours) ; P. Dillon, Esq. ; H. S. Marks, Esq.
fie yftr/tihire Archaohgieal and T&pofjraphical Joumat.
Vol. L^ ftp, 392. lusted to Members otdy. (Bradbury
tod £van£.) London, 1S70. 8vo.
Tht tir»t volume of this journal is now completed, ooq-
t^nSng many interesting articles on theTopo^rnphy and
Aielitfolpgr of the greatest and most interesting of En^^tish
eoBntJea. S<»iiif excellent illustrations add much to the
When we mention, amongst its contribtilurs,
ajitiqoaiiaiis as Canon Raine and Robert Davies,
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WAIffTED TO PtTKCIlAaE.
Futtomlari of Friae. hc.^ of the folloirioa Book* to be Mat
dlrvott.
tiM tpenllemcT) hy whom tlitfjr mre required, whu«e nftaici uid
■.re eiven for that jjurpoK : —
TMi CnaiBTiA?i FT*iwi!<rrn, wid Church of Inlwod Ifai .
No- ». Aii'i^ '" ' I '- ■■^"* anil CoTitont* from J«»a»rj'* 1st.,
to t>cr«nib' fiiiiumry to DeoetBber, UjM. IMllo.
frflTH JuiUQ-i
OtriW.131 ITmrBltRITY t.;AI*RSl»AWI, l!M«,l»». l«M,
Tuukkii iJouJii, a HMUQUAav »aoa FAtasrilfl. CDrfi^toti]
ssu,
FoKTi*cLTK - ' ?rr ot niB Riout Boa,
siu AiiTii fufi^ ivono Ditptrrv or
IlLITLAirO. 1
SVLVAj or, tht . _ _ .
Tiia BaAirriKd uir AiiCitQi.".aoi^ Tillctbo!?. Chiblm, irst,
Wsnttdby AW>a, Bokeby. Bkckrock, I>iitlin.
DiMToX* tlALLo hf WillinniST'lacr Uibaon, F«S.A.
Eii^ftirtKl Portfftitof Lautvute St<rtK', flrotn the Pittntlnxbsr 81t JcHhua
ii9)fitold[0.
Encfrnved PoftnUt of IaiJt Mary Fcavick, fKan the YaltxXinZ bjf Svt^
GfidtVty Knelltr.
An BuKraviug— The otily DBiucht4u^. »fter »it DAvid Wltklc.
Wu)t«d bf the Rrv. JiJiH I'irtfonJ. M,A*, BoUoH ^tt^Jt
ntv Ta'icacicr. Y^tM-kfthin.^
Willi AX Law*« Woats. s Vol*.
Wuled by Mfttrt, iitU, Dtighum, -f Co., Cambrldfft.
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XOTES AND QUERIES.
[10iS.VIL JAB.»,7t
I
^fHinrtf to Corrc^milFnuiS.
1f% 4WV tiomptslled to pa^itpone untti next wrch vemrai
HlBCRXlA. necelvad, and nmter cansuUmtifot.
Tlr.TTTt CTT VRSK8 IK PtrunTH.— CuKWC5t'« (Bri^hloo)
tr>i fkubftct irmied it *ireai htftfth in Humtrovjt
w' t<ir*t tiHd StfOond Strrivt, Sa IndcX.
U . t. ; Kichniona.) TtumlM: hM «#<* "X. ^ II,*' 2^
a iv. 47, 7!*.
X. T. Z. Sueitttmrn Sum>nc (2 vols. 4to, lft4C-^<) «w7/
NO douht givr _»/o« f/*«r mjUrnurtinn.
F. G/r» lyuiTv «* '« W>^ />r*£ m^dlr nf^ ftttintting »imiid
pm^tiwj thrnuph teuUa and jloan thowd f*f aifdrtamtd to
The Bttiltlcr,
R, G. F. (SmidgBtu,) fFe dt ttat knme mtijf ff^ntnh-
ght iu Jamtiira,
J. C. TtW Jind tht mformathn ntsft^cUng the Mtvrral
KcviUt mcuiiimtd hif him in Bn^dtfc* BldUiuu of CflllilUS'A
i:i
fni.: " MIMA, prt«eU>i«/<;
F»ii.|(^
.'Ac
-r «/ VV'nJ.lAM
(i'.T«
J &Tt«l othrr Workt nT Art: IkfiingriUA, F(MriU.9helK Kcin Cm«*i;
llectiocM.
LM (i- MiinouniN'. f-nr >ALE at hh
u
mi.'.inrcu m tntrc Hirer t"i».5 *
fFO
PORTRAIT rOT.LErTORR ^JnTi?r 1=h^W!^n?t
^* BcKtki aud Prints in ]ars« or muilt colJcciioni bousiht.
AUTHORS 4DVISET) WITH as to Coat of
PRIJTTTNO atui lITJT.lStrrNCi, ami the chcATiWt mtyl« of
TO be POI.D, ;i TtOnK of MATHEMATICS UBod
remarV Uov tHuoaaa^ in Mi twa littci(]-
-i^ 1
f hotograplii of PersonSt Pictures, & PlaoeS)
itvuuos & co.s,^ftr«i,a(mofiq;GA&£, lostdok.
miiUihl Mc I>qf<tiHtiH qn llitTirR Floor.
VB. HOWAJLD, dae^ott-I^Kifekt, ^, Fleet Stfeet,
'fHL Iu tntnODeed ttii cadntr-Mir tenrMkn of AimTCDtilkli
TIKtB^ HMd without nwtnr** *lw*. *>r Ueninrtft'. ibey «> i^HNrrlr
rnnnble tba nstlxnll tWftt tbt r-'* "^ ••- •^"" '-^—T frrm-fhtmrl-linalf
hylM cltMwc ufciei ii i . Th< - .< u.-i
will b« ftafODoa niMrior to aii i J't
will mppi^rt aad pcMenrc tteiu iiais Brr Idoir^ una tf KUBrtuitf^d to
T«ifeore artic-alAtlon and miutteMiMi. tJatmrVt tMUi itoiipcd and Ten-
dered wimd M»d luefUl In mMtJoaHm. M, WMtnrat.
I HE ^'MERMAW SERtES OF UUit OLD
UkAMATISTS,
1> nf.
EdiKdh i:?<#IIA«.
THE PLAY3 OF FSHIP 3IAS
THE WORKS OF CHHI ...„^
^ J A R lAiTiVi: , 1 ut'l n<l 1 it!f hi* Trjw^latbQi , E4f *«d , »iil» *»*«•• a
IntrodtiJTUiin, iiy r^irtrt^-COL. T. Ccn^-sixuiTAtt, Crown
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FLEt'KYt COUNT DK MOIiVlLLE,
8mc<? the appearance of my last article in
*^N, * Q/' I have been informed that the Mar-
dbeoft Canipttna i« engaged upon a history of tht^
4l«t fitiniU-, which is to comprise a lar^e
nmWr of <j'i V-tations from the Gualterio M8S.
tbtir Allies of tho work are, I believe,
xtmUv , and will be published as soon as
^ itaLe i*i the Continent renders undertakinpa
d A littTArv kind tolerably feasible. In the
readers cannot ff*el surprised at
tht! promise I bad made of for-
At Q/ a few epecimens of Queen
■.I* correspondence. I would not,
^ Nver, even seem to take
th<? Marcbesa'a book ;
so rich in documents of
upon them for nnuiy a
- — t so much as alluding
ring letters refer to the
„j one I publish first was
il tiualterio by the Abbe de
iiuia XI \\, bishop of Frejus
i been selected in 171^ to till
of ^'ovemor to the young
Si
m my
•dtb'
tO kill
Je me flttte que V. E. n*A pas toat^^fiilt o%\h\%4 ^m
ancien aervitcor qu*ell« honoroit de ses ^ !<iia
toiifours fait uae profession partieuliiri- [ta-
che* J'ftT rboauear d'eacrire u Sa ^aiiii ' , uair
d'elle un iBdult pour coufdrer en comuieudc tou^ lea
prieuR^^ tkpendants dfi mon abhayp d* Tnumua.* Je
8ui« oblige d<* me servir de pluuktn ' ' ' r^our
redncatioa du Rot, et je ne puis 1 l>i«i
que par le moyen de cet indidt. Si j ' ur,
veat bl«xi tn'acearder rhonneur de uk pruivciiou daofl
cette occasioD, j'eipcrc que Sa Soiotete ne me refuiera
pa§ cttte grace, de laqaeile certain'! ' - voax fairs
qu'iin bon usage. Le Roy m port' it bicn, et
doQDC de ^andca e^perance^. Je ]>r pluif»ir do
cettG occAHion pour mc renouveler diixi;* k »ii>uvoair do
V. E., t*t I'assurer da rc8p€ctueiLx attacbemtiot avcc 1©-
quel j« 3erai louto tna vie»
Monseigtieur,
le trfe*-humble ct tr^fr-ob<^isaatit fleryiteur*
A. F., ancien tfv^ue da Frejtiii.
Paris, ce 14 mars 1717.t
M. de Morvillo, the author of the next letter^
bad been auibaiisador, and then Secretaiy of Stata
for the Navy ; his colleagues in the administra-
tion organised after the death of Cardiiiid Dubois
were SL de Maurepas, M* de Breteuil, and M.
d^Vrgenson, all young men, like himself, (Se^
J34ttbier^s Jmtm^dj Charpentier*s edition^ i, 297.)
A Versailles, 17 aouat 1723.
Je Tpgarde, MonseigneuT, conime ua des premier?* et
en m^mc temp;*, coromc un de^ plu3 agTeabled aoins <lu
miniaterc que le Roy m*a confie* ci^luy d'hiformcr votreL \
Em** dc.^ chan^emcns anxqnela la mort dc M. lo Cardf i
Dubois a dcniie Jieu daiiB lea dispositious du gouvenu>* (
merit, Le Roy a remi4 radminiiitration g<^tiemlc dcs
alTaires de son royaume h, M. le Due d'<3rk^anS| qui a bieu
vouiu accepter le titre et ge charger des fonetioiui d«
premier minbtre. Sa Majesty m'a en meme temfw honerdf
de eclu}^ de pecrt^taire d'etat dm affaires etran^eres, pouf
t*x«?cuter sous lea ordres et scma les yeux de S. A. Jl. c«
qui peut y avoir rapport.
Cest Mus CO titre et soua eeluy de VlKJmme du laonda
qui porte au plna haot point la vcntTation^ lo xelc et le |
d^Touement pour V. Era*" que je la supplio de ne me pa»
refuser les seconr* qu'elle vouloit bien doncer a mes prt?-
dect'Mseun? daus eet important employ, par celte eorrear '
pondance oil ib ont pui*^ ai aouvent les avi^ et 1m con-
tseils les plus utiles au serviee du Roy* C'eJst une jp^eo J
que je demande td^instamment ii Y. Km" «»n lu^'prote*-
taut que j'en auray la plna parfini^ uiee,
Je voudroia bien (|ue la conjont i noua trouh ]
von» me i«i«*at toot le lempa n*JL , ar n^-pondr*
des aujouxd'huy h celles de »cs Icttrea dout M. le Card.
Dubois no hiy avoit pas tnarqu^^ la r^eption ; elle reeon-
noitroit que' ma premiere attention a'est portee avec
empreasemeot h ce qui vieot dc Y. Em^.
J 'ay fait toutc celle que je doift A une leltre accempflgnci*
d^nn mcmoire ooneeroant M. le Xixic de Cumrn, dej^ int<^
rkx?i duqael je me feray un objet capital, eomme de tout
ce qui aura rapport k'ceux do Y** Emw et it aa luni*-
faction. O'est ce dont Je la gupplic d'etre perfiuadi^ ct
• Fleury had resigned his bishopric in order to
nearer Madame de Maintenou, who was at the height <
her power, and he liiid accepted aa aoonnpensation th
Abbey of Toumus^ in Buri^uody. See SnUd-Smu>tCi
Menu>ir»t 3ti, 447-9,
t BriL Mua,, Addit. MSS. 2d,322.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
du respectueux Attacbe mrnt «^ec Icquf 1 Je »uift^ MonscH
gneur, dt V. £in«« h Uefr-liumble et ir^t^belssanl aervi-
Db Morvjllb.*
CardiDftl Gunlterio was, r« we see, the faithful
and indefftligable adviser of the French Crown
on Blatters of forL^^Ti policy ; liia con^unitoate
experience gave the utmost value to the corre-
spondence which he carried on with the ministers
at Versailles and their ap-ents abroad ; and hU
welUcnown partiality for Fnuice had trflnsfomied
him into a kind of iion-oilicial vhaiuje ttuffaire^^
whose duty it was to watch the proceedings of
th« cc»alition, and to keep up a leelin^r of cor*
diality between the Pope and Ilia Moat Christian
Majesty.
Morville writea to him, it will be observed^ in
a ton© of great obsequiousness : —
Je ne peux me dispenier, Manseigneur, do marqucr
encore plus pnrtkulioremeat h Votre Emiaence p/ir un
billot separe combitn jo fruis tnu«|je dea marque.«i do bofitd
dottt L*He vent bi<m ra'honort»r an commencertnint tie mora
niinJ.^tiTe. J'ai fait part h M- le Garde des Sceaux f <le ct?
qu'tille til 'a fait In grace de mVcdre ; il y e^t plus sviiftiblc
quo je ne peux rt-xprinicr, et j'ose assurer votrc Eini-
neoce qu'il partage biea vivtMiient avcc mov la recon-
nolAsanee que je hii doift. 11 flVstime tmp hcureux de
pouvolr vivre encore dans m\\ juiuvcnir ; il conserve pour
elle tous le» MtntimenU qui la'i sout h juAtement clus.
Pout moy, Monaelpneur, j^avuuerai ii Voire Eraioence^
qu« rien ne oie tlatte pluH dans la pla^e dont Je auL;* re-
vctu que la i-clatioji que j'aurai I'lionneurd^avoir [avec]
die. L'ue eontiance saciis bonjesca Votre Ennnencoscrala
rfcglu du nm cotiduitei et nte pnroitra toujour^ lo scul
THoyt'n dont je pourrai me R^rvir pour remplir difjnement
le mijiistiire t|U il a plu uu Koy tt h. Son Altciwe Hojale
Ue oonfivr h, mea ftoins. Je Aupplie done Votre Eminence
de mUitler de aoi luniieres ct de croire que per^onne nii
monde ne peut etre plus jiilonx que moy dVn profiter*
Je «ub :i\ix. %t\\ reapcet litfini, Monsei^nour, de Votre
Eminence le tria-htimble et tres-obt'issant Pervitmr,
De Morvillk.
A Versailles, ee 22 sept" 1723.
The fourth letter^the last — whicli I ^hal! ^'ive
here, is one of the most interesting in the whule
6^nm ; it was written to Cmxlinal Ciualterio b^* a
well-known persomige, Julien, who, after having
been a Protestant, and even received a colonelev
from the Prince of Orange (William III), hail
returned to France and embraced the Itoutan
Catholic religion. Court gays of him — " Son zelt*,
amer et bigot, ne laissoit rien a d<58irer a cet ^gard,
I-iCa Protestants n'eiirent pat* d'ennemi plus re<lou-
tnble/* {HiM. de la Omrrti de« Cfvennes^ vol i.
153, 154.) Julien played a conspicuous part id
tile persecution directed t» gainst the Camisards.
A une m&ieon de campn^o, h 7 lieue* de Paris.
Le •2U'"*juin 1709,
J'arrivay k Paris, men inconipa ruble Seigneur, le P2
du courarit, et buict jours apnt* )e vina a eetle belle
cattipt^e, oil nous paaAons agrtfablement le tcnip^, eloi-
gBd dea tiiacour& ennuyeux et tri^ien qui ae debit tent a
P
>it ^H
Lmi-
• Brit, Mas., Addit MSS. 20/323.
t M. d'ArgeoBon.
Pari4 jmr la miA^re ^n^rale, sar la nurct^ d*argent,
i»ur la continuation de la guerre Kir»qu*on *e flaltuit
eette patx tant dtfein^e^ et 4|ui a e»te roaipue depuis
eomrLe je vais avoir rbonneur d'arprendre a Vutre 1
aettce. Kile aura ,Ht;eu que M. de Ton:v etoit a La Paye^
et que le Id may milord Moibourou^ y i^tant arrive
avec milord Touasend f «ir in the manuscript ; it »houid
be Townaend] pl^-iii potential res d'Angleterre, lea
ferenees *.'< ■ ut le VJ cntrc ces deux mi
M, de Tt>! ill^, les iroiH ]:)Ousiunuuires
lande, M, l> ^i i u^^ene, et rambaAsadeur de i
ce c^ui eoiitiuua chai|ue jour. Le 24, le comte de Stni
dort arriva ii La Ilayo et cntra Ic mc?me soir danj.
conferencea qui avoient este tonne's pcu de jonn
ravant deux foia par jour, Eulia, pour couper
M. de Torcy demanda k cea messieurs le^ artifi
ecrit, aftn qu'il lea portat au Roy pour s^'a\'oif «i S.
lej* voudrojt signer* ct oe ministre ei^taiit arriv^ le 1^
eourant h Ver^yiille^ il y cot conseil le 2 soir *
oe« artiilcis fnr<?nt trimvca ai durs et m«*»aie
in la personno du Koy, que S. M. ue put *e rt^
fiigaer, de aorte que tout tourne it la g'uerre et [>lu« a
paix, Voic}'* ii co qu*on pubhe h, Pnm, Tartit^le eisenUi
i»ur lequel Je Koy a rompii, II eit <inei<ition de faire
Pliilippe V d^EHpagnedani* deux mois, et de donai
9''urete et otage liayonne, Pamptlun?, FooUn
quelque* aiitre^ placea en Flandrea frontiere** de I'Ai
toute-4 le«i<|ueUeii placet! rej^teront .lux eunemii «i au bui
de detix iriuis le lioy d'Espagne n*eat pas revenu <
France, le^ijuels ennemia pourront contiuuer la gaen
contre nous, et comme le Roy n'e*t pas niaiircdefaijni
venirlo Roy son petit-tils, r]Gand meime il y em] '
la force, lc*i deux mois ne sutfiroient \m$, et nous
livru les portes de noire lioyaume aux ennetais. 1
voit bien que ect article ne pent estre execute' de
du Roy, maia S. JL a'engn^eoit do partde k ne
plus le Hoy son pitit-fiU. il y a uu autre article
quel le Koy auroit eu peine tie se rc^oudrr, c'est I'
eoncernant le rt?'uibli.<»eiiieD.t de I edict de Nantei^"^__
len eunemis dcmandent. On pretend qu'ila laisH-ni Vu\i-
lion ati Koy, ou de le retublir, ou bicn de penn rtrr tart
k ceux qui sunt »or(is, qti^a eeux qui vondrosi
vendpe jHodant 20 annee« Icurs bieos, et «c r
le payj» ct ranger. A Tcgard de tous lea autre.> .
aont ifl»c% durii, puldqu^il A'ngit de nous remuttre ati
t rai tea des Pyrenees et de Muuster, ii la demolition
Duokerijuc, de Ber^nei** de Thionville, a dontjer qui-lq
portion du baut l>.iuphine au due de Savoye ; tou
I'Alaace, et meame ce que noua avions avant le traite di
2b]un.«ter, II y en a qui as^urent c^u'on ne demandi* p«
la FrMche-Compte. On verra lears injustes pretentioni
duns un maniieste que le Koy doit dormer ou pullie, el
ciqiendant on se prepare a coniinuer la tjuerre. Xoo-
obi-tant la rarete dea dcnrees, l)ieu veuille
viennc une famine daua ce roynume, et que lea ei
ne movent ait**v heureux en Fhndre4* eette
qu'ils I'ont ete Ics precedentCi"* C'est I
VilJar^ qui commande notro arnii^e. Mo;
plu5, non pUift que M, le Due de Kourg(»i:i -? oirf
eomraande le mareaehid d*llareonrt, M- de iiejnnr'* eu
pagne^ ayant e«tederlare avaut-hiermaresohfll d»* Frr^we*
^aoHdoute qu'il y ' ' ■ '
veUi'S, nu)U inci
d'ordonner que vo
il Avignon par le i^ed^ti de Kome ou de tieuesj; le «iHUt»^
d'Urbau aura soin de le^ retirer. ct dc me lea tnriivur^
Pari*, oil je comptc de rcatei ' -
gagnerai Orangv% s'il pluit au
phiifeir que je pnisse avoir, cV-i
de la santti de V. Em**, et quo h Vu[ ••«»
lea nialhenrs que ta durete ct iaj :ax
V. '.: a attift^ pour avoir elO tr<q» inhm: ,i .-..» - - et
4«S.Tn. JAS-aS,-!!.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
71
1
* i'n scn*i Ic S* Sie^re, Yoilk tou« roj^ crimes,
I> .iC\ «*e mo donne \*m moyena dc biun con-
T*jr^r t 1 ' 1 '- ^ nt litlello, teodre et rcspcr-
iutrax *vre 3- ite ma vit\ Mfusei^^oeur,
de Votre EtJL j^ublc et trfca-oUfissant aer-
Titettf. ^
JULIKJC.
'" L ■ ■ - f aax pcrsonnes
11. -;inref», s'il voas
[UJiorl vuu"* lui fcrirtz» Mon»iMKneur.
h M. I'ribLH^ cli* 1ft Tour, evenuc dp
Avis^non h Mnd^ de (ruyon la
lie le fair© locttre au pedon <le
I in the li^M of present events, tlii^ dismal
. of tlie state of France dtirinj^ the last few
of the reigu of Louis XIV. is certaiiily
; . .= enough. GuaTATE Masson."
Ujunyir^oD-tbe-Hill.
A BLACK-COrXTRY LEGEND.
Enlj in the pre.«ient century,t -when Bilsttnn
int! % loDg straggling village with one main
wMch formed a part of the ra ail-road from
n TO Cheater and Holyhead, the Bulla
^^rti-jed for sale Lady IJay, 1R70) waa
1 inn of the place, and a well-known
the old Jriah route. It was naturally,
: as a matter of course, the house at
town worthies were wont to meet,
[ whole-9om+^ home-brewed ale out of
^ "-' black glazed pota, smoke their
i|K'3j and talk over the politics of
t J ttk" -tattle of the neighbourhood.
I 1 1 ] ; I : H eve, while thus pleasantly
t!> I 1 Ml*»st smokiDg-room (cotTee-
Ti it n- yet come into existence), a
■ i to tbe door, followed by his
le-bugs. Ther« is, of course,
pi the assembled guests to
rwho the stranger may be ; and from the
nirntive valet they soon learn that he ia
ft' ruT en r Old e io I jondon. They beconie
iL y desiroua of his company amongat
tii^ttiaulve^y both for society and flews'^ sake; but
lilt ptotleuian unisociftlly keeps his own room
(pttUTS, So that at last, driven to desperation
od perchance somewhat pot-valiant, one of the
CMDpittij, Mr. Edward W'ooUey of Stone fields, a
• Brit. Mua,. AddiL MSS. 2t\UH.
f Bt}«ton w;i* at this lime the villaijo of the Bbck
Cottntrv, po^t^tfia^ the well-known ti^i-yard »enm of
vnl, vkicn proved the making uf ihe distnot, but is now
VHW onii and havin^r ^ larger trade in btickh'fl,
i«»toaertwi^ l-i-.,, llnui Wnlvfrlmmpton jt*plf. The
ftif< Grofjare (jav* an impfttii tu its dwlininR: trado by
Vttnng A t>urKle of B^l«iti'>n make; nnd smih wa-s hi*
■ifHty** sH^ 'nit on one occa^jtm,
JjH « fbbb. U Jtp «aid : ♦* oh I if
»V iauflbriL^...:, ... ^jue it, take no notice
screw-maker (i*. e, of iron acrews for wood )^ sends
up the servant with his chronometer, to ask the
Irishman if he can tell wlint time it is by an
English watch. Great aniiety ensues aa to the
result. Presently the servant returns with his
masters compliments, and he will he down
directly with the watch and an answer. A great
shullling of feet ia heard overhead; and by and
by appears Mileains, followed by hia boi!3'-guard
bearing a tray with the watch* and a brace of
pistols on it. Tie iinhesitatingly announces that
ne is come to challenge the owner of the watch,
and hopes he will have the ''dacency '* to claim
it and take np one of the pistols. (To the ser-
vant: **Take the watch round, John! '') **Ih it
yours, sir P '* The old doctor, Mosi*, was the lirst
thus addrea<^ed ; nnd nmongst others present were
Messi-s. IVice and Bitshbury. '* No, sir ! " w^aa
the invariable answer from each put to this cru-
cial teat. At length it comes to tlie owner: '* Iq
the watch yours, sir ? " " No, sir ! " ** Well
then, John, aince no one will own the watch, put
it in your pocket ; and as we do not appear to^
have fallen nmong *jintlemen,' bring out the
horses, and we'll ride on another stage." The
tale of courfie soon got abroiwi, and to the end of
his career poor Woolley, or rather " 'Oolley," as
he was more generally called, was accoated with
** What*8 o'clock, Mr. '(lolley i* " Only within a year
or two of his death, while riding along quietly in
his carriage, a young urchin thus annoyed him;
and in getting out to make a dash after him, poor
** TJolley ^* waa upset and grievously injured ;
that he had good cause long to remember
loss of hia ** fAuiily turnip/' and his preatige
Quixotic combativeness. Stapfordlensis,
TEDIGUEE OF IIUMK THE illSTORIAX:
BARON BAIUJE.
Hume the historian, in the autobiographical
fragment he left behind him, states that he was
of good family ^' both by father and mother!
ray father's family is a braneh nf the Earl
Homes or Humes, and my ancestors had been
proprietors of the estate, which luy brnther
possessea, for several generations " (p. 2). The
name of the family estate waa Ninewells, and its
last male possessor waa David Hume, a Baron
of Exchequer, and the author of Commenta
upon the Onminai Law of Scotland. By the death
of the baron'a only son Joseph, which occurred i
short time after he passed advocate, the succea
sion opened to daughters ; and it is believed that
the estate now ia in possession of a son of one ^
these ladies.
Although the Humes of Ninewells had beett'
for at least throe centuries in possession of that
estate, the assertion that they descended from a
branch of the Eark oi Htime cmvuqX^i^ ^ajc^'^X.^^
ff
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[i't'S.VIL JAK.«8,
There ia no lepral evideacn of the fact, and the
ciwumatftoce that in L5;3G Andrew Hume of Ninc*-
wbUr was with Jatnes QufayteUead, one of the
bailliea of the prior of the monastery of Colding-
Ixani^ militates a^in^t the historian ^fl assumption.
One of the duties of a baron baillie was to give
ol>edioticu to the precept or command of a superior
to infeft and give posseesion to a vai?sal of lands
held of the over-lord. Thus Adam, prior of
CoMinphani, gave precept to Andrew Hume of
Nyne wells and James Quytehead, or Whit*^head,
on January 24, to jrive i«asini* to Sir Walter
O^ilvy of Dunlng-UR and Alison Hume, h\t^ spou&e^
of one»half of the lands of Lumnisden, nunc nun^
Cf^Hd, Fastcastle, in the barony of Colding-ham
ind shire of Berwick,
This mandate was obeyed upon January 1*6,
1530, and the fact was certified by a notary
public.
The charter, which is the warrant for the pre-
cept besides the conventual seal, has the subscript
ti»»na of the monks. It is also addressed to James
Whitehead and Andrew Hume of N£newell« aa
htiillies of the prior and convent.
The Humes of the border were more given to
warlike than peaceful pursuits; and it is not
probable that any of the cadets of the family
would humble ihemeelves to become baron bailliea
of th*^ prinr and convent of Coldingham. When
held by the foActionary of an earl or baron, the
baillie had within that jurisdiction of the over-
lord ^rreat judiciiil powers, being pubstantially the
commis.Hioner and r«pre.^entative of hir? master, and
as such could ftdjndioflte in all civil and certain
criminal ca.fce». To discharge the duties of auch
an otKce required a dejrree of education and
legal knowledge which could hardly be expucted to
bii found in a moss-trooping family." Indeed, baron
baiiliea were generally the legal advisers of tbi* !
baron, and were mostly broiig^ht up likw the cele-
brated oflicial of the Baron of Bradwardtne, as
writers, Attf/iice attorneys.
It must not therefore be imagtoed by Southern
readers that a Scotish baron baiUie or bailit!' is
the same parson as the individual vulgarlr de-
s^nated in the South as a bum-bailiff— a mistake
which a coiinsid Ifmrned in peerage lore recently
fell into, to the amusement of his h carers from
the North, (>ii the contrary, the baillin required
lobe well educated, and a 'man with whom the
baron could consult and advise when it wiv^ re-
qtiisite.
In Scotland there used to be in former days no
gmall fondness for satire, as h evident from the
great variety of pa^quils and squibs of that de-
8cripti»m which have been preservndt and many
of whii^h have not long since been collected and
published. The ba^3n and his baillie were not
allowe<l to remain undifiturU-d, as in the r^ign of
Ch/trl&B I. the foUowiog work, understood to hare \
liticS
liqufl
1
i
come from the pen of his majesty's physi(
Dr. Patrick Anderson, was presented to pui
notice. Wo give the title from the tirst editi*
printed in black letter, and supposed to be uniqi
*' The Copic of a Baron^a Court, newly translated
Whftt^you-c4ill-bim, Clerk to the same. Printed at
Helicon, beside FamttttuM^ and are to b« »old ia Cale-
donia-'' (Twelve leaves, black letter.)
In this dramatic production the chief perfonnert
are the baron, his lady, Ms chamberlain, his
baillie, his clerk, his officer, and bis teoante ; and
the plot turns upon the relative duties of the par-
ties—not forgetting the frailties of the great miuiy
his pecuniary diificultics, his lady's follies,
trickeries of those under him^ anti the vices
the time — and presents a carious and probal
tolerably accurate picture of the position of
many of the lesser barons prior to the death
Charles.
This amusing production was reprinted at the
beginning of the last centun,' at Edinburgh, luid
in 1824 by Tlavid Webster — a remarkable man in
his wavt much patronised as a vendor of old and
curious books by Sir W^alter 8cott, Principal
Lee, Archibald Constable, and other collector of
literary rarities. To this edition Webster pre^jced
a short preface and added explanatory notes. It
is now quite out of print*
Whether the bibtorian's ancestor could
any relatirmship, or any other connection
than that of a clansman of the luiughty Barona
Hume, is problematical j but that he was
descendant of Andrew Hume of Nine wells, a
bftTfjn baillie of the prior and convent of Cold'
ingham, is plain enough ; and the inheritance
an estate, especially in the Merse, for consid*
ably more than three centuries in the same 1
mily, is in truth something to bo proud of,
much more satisfactory than any remote re'
ship, supposed or even reftl, to the higk<
lluniCvS who, it %viU be remarked, had no
dom until lOOA, J, M.'
rons^H
&m«M^
A NEW SONG FROM PAUIS.
As art illustration to Mk. C. W. Bixqkam^
eommynicHtion referring to ** the unbrokun selfj
confidence which the French, like the Athei
have ever retained amidst the greatest di<
T beg to enclose a song which I reoeivi
balloon -post, with a note mentioning that
same superseded the ** Marseillaise '* :-^
U mon Dieu ! la faim me preaae;
Je donnerais poitr une bifteck^
La principaut^ de Ilesse
Et le grand -dnche de Teck.
Je donnerais a cette heiire
Le duch^ de Punsigny
Pour ime livre de beurro
De Bretagne on d'lssigny.
4*S.VU.aAs, 88.71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
73
Oh ! j^eumge quAtid je pen^e
Que le marecbaL Lebomf,
Lar^ement s'emplit In panse,
El qu^ j« n'tii pas un o.*uf.
Je vols touioura dans mea soDgea
1.1 V "-^ rie pQval
Atr s sea longer,
Et ...| ..a.. - par du chev&l.
La D^'fease Rationale.
D'lme liberalo main
I>ei charogTie nous rijgHle,
Pour ftujourd'huij imua demain ?
0«B bieaa que Dieu nous envoie,
Lapiu de gouttiere oii chien,
Je iMsseraift avec joie
Pour d^ouper du Prussien,
HiMe iiDjiiorous lines, which are perhaps the
•OtM of the expinng swan, are anonymoua ; but
1 IB inclined to think that they were eomposeii
* — ^^ lieutenant of eixgrineei^ who waa
■ttted in L^T-ndon, and fights now in
; .« .*.c capacity of an electrician.
FRAycisftUE Michel.
S77, Stand, W.C.
Chi&'a >f''^fv — Thfl mania for chino, which
ti at firt»: '■ id no new taste, aa the fol-
\omm^ euri it from an old countty paper,
'i%e HletitTH i'Vyi/i// Pod and Sha-horne Qiulltocil
Mmxmfjf^vfWi aatisfy the readers of ** N. k Q/' r—
** Plyaiouth, Feb, 13, 1700.
^ll«r people in IhcBo part/ are * Chuia raad' j tliey
4hi\ wjr lay out all the motiuy tbey are owners of,
Utt ftwi r«ivn their CZoathB tu gu on board the China
IU|p» t> »,Mi' tr I (,,.., ..nri Saucers. Nothing is more
iMinir: ntheChitiu tmcle ; in the
fcl jpla ptirchftsed with Trenaure,
MTnUTic^, Ltution of China pre-
VaiillM O^ \irare— Tea, the Con*
WBprion of .^ -^ . .1 .<iilk the Coiisuniption
at our own T j laetiy, now two thircls of
tbrowr'i h.i L in Tea and Sn^ar."
"Olu Fa ni»:u Antic, thk Law/'— Some few
'1 epeided in the etatiite-book
lit day are more honouretl in
- :i in the observance. The pariia-
' IT., Williara 111., Anne, and the
,p8 weem to have considered
i ^ to have required legiinilation,
ij^eata of these reigns tell us what
.r and what to avoid. Thus by
lu \\ lLL ilL c. 2, no per^jn may use or sell any
uttiiaa made of doth, serge, drugget, frieze^ or
^ Vt of paving forty ftbillingB for every
maae of wood were evidently
i?r-i i- : 1 ^ the interests of society,
% IW m^f s ^ta on, or ^ells any
•idi forfeiL; i..ii't .-unjiagg for every dozen.
i^MO^ by 6 Anne,* c. G, it ia prohibited to make
either battona or batton-boles of cloth, aerge,
drugget, frieze, or camlet under a penalty of tiv©
pounds per doxen.
The next enact meat is that of 4 Geo, I. c. 7,
which, fta a commentator remarks, is bo loose and
uojrrnmmatical in its garb that it might have been
nuide by the tailors and button -makers tbem-
fektlves. By this statute the penalty ia reduced to
forty shillings, and a power is conferred on the
magistrates of sentencing the oftender to impri-
sonment; and by the Act 7 Geo. T, at 1, c. 12, the
wearer of contraband buttuna is subjected to a
similar penalty. 'JuLiAH 8HABJliJf.
Folk Lore : Frost on the Shortrst Dat. —
The workmen (or delphmeo ) of the stone quarries
of South Ijfincabhire say that, if a frost sets in on
the shortest day and holds out for twenty-four
hours, there will be froat for the next tlufoe
months. Should this prove true, we may now
expect frost until the end of March.
II. FlSHWlCK»
Scottish Societies.— As Scotland is admitted
to bo deficient in county histories, it has occurred
to me (from papers which have come into my
possession) that a maas of .reliable materials
might be made available for supplying to a cer-
tain extent the present want by publiidiing in
" N. & Q," lists of the earlier members of the
following societies, &c., from their commencement
down to the vear 180(3, or even to 1820, the cloae
of George ifl.'s reign. These lists would gra-
dually invite useful annotations: —
1. The Sodety of Advocates.
% The Writers to the Signet.
3, The Royal College of Surgeons ( from 1087,
with any ll^^ts of pre\^uus practitioners).
4. The lio^al College of Physicians (Edin-
burgh).
i7. Co7it)eners of Trades f Edinburgh).
6* Lord Provosts of Edinburgh, and Provoats
of Leith.
7. Royal Society of Scotland.
8. Matriculations at the CoHe;;e8 of Edinburgh,
Glasgow, Aberdeen, and St. Andrews.
9. The Canongale Kilwinning (Masonic) Lodge
of F^iuburgh**
Many lost or entirely neglected branches of
ancient houses might by the above means be
again brought to liyht. and identified with con-
siderable advantage to Scotch historical literal ur*^.
Sp.
Story ascrirkd to TnEonoKE ITook. — An
article in the SpevUUor of Jan. 7, 1871, entitled
'* The Author of the Ingoidsin/ Legmd»^'* conUina
the following passage : —
• Tbi9 wiw the prototype of nuxJerii Seotch clubN.
Amougjtt its mtitnbt^rs were Johti^oa'a Boawtill, Murray,
ftecr<!tary to Prince Charles, and othw waJl-known public
characters.
u
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[iti'S.VILJA».2S.7I,
*» An Irisli story, told by Thccxiore Hook, may oome
next. A gentleman was drivitt;^ his spr^'itnt in a cab. and
siid to liim, hnlf joculnrly, hnlf in an^.-tt * If tlic- galtuwjj
Imd its dup, yon r&.^coli wIutc would you l>c now ? *
* Fftiih, then, your honour/ was the reply, ' it's ridin;; in
thii* cab Vd be, all al»tie by myself, may be.* " (1*. 20.)
I believe tliia story, tbougli in a glijzlitly dif-
ferent Ibnu, is older ihnn tbe em of Hook. I aiwv
it in print m 1827, in a very old quarto voliimw
entitled the Connitj Magazine^ where it ran tbua :
" As a Yankee ftc* cnte und P.nldy quite aly
W«re ridingr to t^iwti, the}* a ]>;nlk*\vs panaM by.
S>icl the YAnkcc to Fat, * If I dtm't make irwfx^.
Give that gallows ita due, and pray where irauld 3*011
be ? '
Said Pat tr> the Yankee, ' Sun?, t!int'« enj^ily known ;
Fd be riding to town by myself, all nlone.* "
Torquay,
Lord Nfj^on'h OriinoN' of GKUjiiAN Gexe-
RALgi. — It will bo interestinif ftt tliii* limo to caH
to mind Lord Nekon*8 opinion of the German
generals, as eipressed by bim in 1795 : —
"A* for the German generals, war h their trade, nnd
pfnacc is ruin to them ; therefore we laonot expect that
they should have any wish to finish t!ie war."
This, it ia to be feared, is sadly applicable in
the year 187L F. 0. 11.
Ajf lyBCRiPTioN. — On an old s^ilver epoon at
Etwall Hall^ Derby ahire, id tbe following inscrip-
tion : —
*♦ In clyTniui? hye there was a fall,
But yet €xe«|»t the {L^^^odwili uf us all ;
Thonj4;he fortuiio frotinde n^aini^t our will,
Yet hope i wol and wil dovv ftiill -,
For in y* straightea of Magalan, Captyan Cottont so
called by name,
Caused mee'io be maid in y« lULnithe of Mft5% 15D2; it
b trewe y» I saye."
MooRLANB Lad.
CuAWBA^N. — I was iufarmed the other di»y tbat
between forty and tilty y^^m ago, an old Iwdy ftt
Lincoln wore ** a cbuwhan - ' ; and on inquiry I
learnt that it was *' a narrow band with a amnll
neat frill on each edge, and went uudcr the chin,
from ear to ear, to fasten the cap on her head.'
The word appears to be com pounded of the
obsolete cfmii) = iaw, and hnndi and, if ofsniriciunt
interest, might be better noted thim otherwise in
"N. &Q," J.Beale.
The late Joseph Parked, — T have been, ^ince
his death, hoping to aee an announcement of the
pnblication of hi« memoirs and corrcFpondence,
I believe his letters would be found f^ full of
interest, humour, and grood ?enseti8 Sydney Sniith's.
Has it never occurred to biH daurrhter or other
friend to preserve the memory of liim by this
means ? Ellcee*
Craven*
FlTRNESfl AUBET AXD THE CnKTHVM 80-
CIETY. — l& it not matter of itgret that when
i
ao much has been dona for Foimtaios Abbey
by the Surtees Society, so little hse been di
for Farnena by the Chethatn Society P W01
it not be better for this learned society to disco'
and edit the Coucher-book of Fumeas than
expend its funds in n^publisbing scarce tractli'
(4*^ S, vi. 149,) The lluke of Devonshire, to
whom Ftirneas belongs, expressed himself some
years ago, at an archaiologicjil meeting within xU
walls, fully alive to the sacred trust which had
come into his bands, and he would no doubt
render any assistance in his power to further such
an object. It is posjsible that the Coucher-book,
as a whole or in detached parchments, may be in
his miiniment-room ; or if not, a search amonir
the duchy records woidd most likely be rewarded
with success. Some years ago the Chetham
Society published two valuable volumes (the lian-
caahire Chantries) copied from the duchy r«
which are now, or were promised to be, as ; ;
ible as the other national records. A. L.
]
WHAT KDITIOX OF THE BISHOPS' VEH9I
WAS USED IJY Tin: TllAXSLATORS OF THE
ACmOKlSED VERSION OV IGH ?
It is stated by many authors, even very
cently, that they used the edition of I.>Ij8. Su<
a statement once made is quoted by vari<
writers without examination/ The instructi(
a,=i iiiven by Pettigrew is — **The ordinary Bil
reatl in the Church, commonly called The Bit '
Bibh^ to be followed," kc. " No edition is hi
named. As the first edition of the Bisbo]
Version was pjinted in l*jl>3^ this date has becoi
almost a-si a part of the de.-yiguation of the versii
and added, as it seems by common consent, to
term ** Bishops* Bible*'; and therefore, witb
examination, it is said that the translators iti
the edition of ITiiiS. One author says, **l]
Authorised ^'e^sion was based on the BisliO]
ill hie, 1508;*
I have compared some chapters in the edilii
of \h\j8^ 1572, and 1002, As it may interest so]
of your readerSj you have tlie result of two chaplei
2 Kings, chap, vil, twenty verses. This chai
of the ll)02 diflfers in twenty places from the 1
The Authorised Version follows the 1»X>2 in ti
of these variations ; it follows neither in nine
them^ and adopts one only of those in the 1
The edition of 1572 reads with the 15G8 in
these places. The 1572 dilTers much in some parts
from tlie 15(>8| though in this eliaptcrthey agree in
these readings. Take a chapter in the New Tes-
tament^ John, chap, i., fifty-one ver^ar here the
1572 and 1002 difl'er fi-om the 1568 in thirty plac
wbHe the lti02 differs from 1568 and 1572 in 00
place only. Thus, in this chapter, the 1572 u
1002 agree in thirty diflerencea from the 15tJ8.
4*S.V1L J*x.S8,"l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
75
The firet Issue o( the tiret edition of 1011
follows the 1572 and 1G02 in liftpeii places; it
foUo-iTs the IbijS in six plnces ; it follows neither
edition in cine places ; and it follows ibe IW2 in
one place onlj ; total, thirtj-one vanntiocs.
So ihRt tweutj'-six readings in our pre(M?nt
Bible, in only two chftptera, are due to the edition
of lti02, and' not to the tranaktors of 1011 Imving
•lured the text *>f 15138.
It is Terv prohablv that the ^* ordinary Bibk*
read in the Church'* in lt]Ori was that of 1(502,
or other late edition ?» and that but few of the
Jirst edition tb^n remained in use.
It was, no douht^ well known that the text had
been revii*ed mora than once since lo(t8, and the
kn^lfttora wouM, m a matter of courae we may
»[>o«e. use the las^t improved text printed by
'^ printer in largt; folio. Dr. Cotton grives
I tns which were in large folio aftt^r
1 iltnLT that of 11102, which were in all
pi 1 I It il in churches. Other chapters are
iv.[-^ ,: li, v.)ji 'h alford similar evidence ; and does
it not show that the edition of 1*J02 was the
edition of the " Bishops* Bible '' used bv the
trmn^Utori of oiir pretjcut Bible, and not tftiit of
lUk^*f Fra>xis Fky.
C«tll«S!, Bristol.
** Ahwe ! Ahise ! Britannia's Sous, Arise!''
Who wrote the wordg and composed the music to
'is old ecu i*on;:r? The tune is spirited, and
Its better words. The song is a favourite with
IriT-^ n„ri {^ nften sung to a cracked fiddle
if Wapping ** publics.'* The pi^or
„ . „ . .„r, who for so many years used to
ipe his tin violin at the doors of the Bank of
fl&nd, had no other song". N.
Austin Family, — Among the Pilgrim Fathers,
r.» >■.* ♦!... ^irue dftte, some membera of thia family
o the ^ew World, and tht?lr descend-
XL... „ ,.. uecupv an influential pofiition in the
Ktf of Boston, Mflswichuaetts, They possess oa
old aejil, bearin^r the following arms: Argent, on
s fesae between two chovronels sable, three cal-
mr crones or The arms al^ bear a label of
tbree points, uidicating that its original owner
'w^^ tlie eldest i«on, and that his father was fitiU
when the seal was cut.
the little church of Kencott, Oxon, and
t its easlem wall, there h a monument to
. widow of William Oldsworth, of Fmiford,
(iiosler, and daughter of William Austin of
V. Hfr arms, identical with those of Aui*tin
V ''T -^;ichusetti!it are impaled with th<j&o
! Oldsworth. I should say that in
ii-r Ok- iayizv ia no label.
1 am very anxious to trace the connection
between the Boston family and their Fng^liwh
incestcir?, and 1 cannot help hoping that I have
b^rr pot a clue*
This Mary Austin died in 1685, ajred eeventy.
She must, therefore, have been born in 1015, and
must have been a contemporary with that gener-
ation of her family which migrated to America.
Can any of your readers help me here 'f Wil-
liam Austin ia described as **of Surrey," Perhaps
the county history might throw some light. When
were these arms gianted ? W. M. H. C.
P.S, Mary'rt son, James Oldsworth, rector of
Kt^ncott, married Anne, daughter of William
MountsteTen, rector of Ooates, Gloster, by his
wife Elizabeth, daughter of John Ferebee, rector
of Poole, Wilts.
Arms of Charlemagne,— Where can I find
the arms, traditional or otherwise, of Charlemagne
and his descendants, including Charles the Bald;
Hugh Capet; Geoffrey Plantagenet, of Anjou;
the counts of Acquitaino; counts of Navarre,
Syntis and Vermandois? W. M. IL C.
The Deaf Oli> WoiiAT^.^Can any of your
readers say who is tht* author of the four follow-
ing humorous lines, well known in Scotland? —
** * Auld wide, aulil wille, will ye ^« n-i*hearing? '
' Speak a little kmilfr, .^ir, I'm unco' (Jull o' hearing.*
' AuM wi(if» nyfd wifun will ye let me km ye ? *
■ 1 hear a littlt* better, sir: niav a* the warld bleaa ve.' '*
EtHnburgh.
[We lio not know the author of thc-9e lino5. But we
renucniiber many years ago — ala^ ! how many I— ^hcaring
the late Mr. Do ace repeat, ia hi^ grand 100070115 voice,
another verffion —
** M)]il wonuuit old vroijinn, will you ro a-fthearing ?'
• Y«ni inu*t tpeak a little louder^ sir, I'm rattier thick
0' hearing.*
*01»1 woman, old womfln^ wUl yott Ut me kiss yoa
duintily ? *
* Thank yoa» kind air» I hear you quite distinctly.' ^*]
I>E CouTtCY- : Kix^ALE.— In one of the earlier
volumes of "X. & Q." I think that it was proved
by referenee t-o inf[iuiii tions poHt-mmtcm^ temp,
l!dw. IL or III. tlmt one of the Lords Kin sale,
who appears in all the peerages as having been
succeeded by a ^on a^ next baron, in truth left <t
ftp.'e heit'fjij*, whose name^ to the best of my recol-
lection, was Alice. The names and dates would
be an assistance to me in connection with another
subject. S»
Deriiv Porcelatk.^ — Where can I get any par-
ticulars of the potter)^ manufactured at Church
Gresley^ in the attempt to establish which manu-
facture Sir Nigel Gresley is said to have lost
KXCKJO/. ? Though mentioned in Mi-is Meteyard's
Life of IVedffWotxif very little seems to be known
ab'out'it. IL W. D;
Gentlemen". — Will any of yon r readers inform
me what is the meaning oif the word '* gentlemen,'*
as used in the de.'*cription of the complement of
rt^giments both of cavalry and infantry durin^j
the civil war 't \.^.^ yx^.
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[4»* a VII- JAJf. 28, '
Bishop Grnsoi?* — Wau ted, information respect-
ing the mother aod wife of the Rev, Edmund
Gibson, who died 1748, Bishop of London. The
wife's QAine wna Jones, and she was a co-beireM.
Thf mother's name 1 do not know. She i^ buried
at Bampton, co, CumWrland, 1\ C-
Greek Translation. — We read at p, 51 of
How9on*8 Hfu^^rafefi fhtide io the Ctmosities of
Craven <Whit4il£er, IftoO) that a tranalatinn into
Greek cleg;iacfl, by one Andrew Denny* of the
following couplet ia stil! preserved. Will any
correspondent communicate it P —
" Throe crooked cripples crept tliroitgh CUth«roe Outle.
Creep, crooktHi cripples, creep.'*
P. J. R Gaittillon.
La_i>t Grikston's Grave r? Tkwin OnuRcn-
YARD. — In the churchyard of Tewin^ Herts, is a
romnrkable ash- tree grow in gr out of the totnh «if
Lady Anne Grimston, m^e Tuftun, daujybter of
Lord Thaaet. who died in 1713, The tradition is,
that being (luubtful of a future state^ she expressed
during her life a wis^h or pmyerM^/ if there tcere a
ftdure state a tree mitfht (/row out of her heart.
What foundation ia there for this tradition ?
A. P. S.
[Ofldly enotiph the followinif parapn^ph, <?xtrairtcHl
from tho Spiritual Tintfs (Dor, 2H, I HO')), hturiii^: on tlit*
SAmti )i%ibjcct, renchcd ii8 i»imultaneaiL^]y with the above.
To uw the wnrds of our correspomlcJit Mr, Axon : *'Can
any one elucidate this marvelloas legend ? *' Ko refer-
ence to it is madft in Clatterbuck^s HuL and Antiq. of
the C<f}tnty of Hertford : —
** AN ATlIKrRT's FllOFHK*Tr rULPfU^TJ.
*' The cliurchyard of Tewin, in Ilerlffirdshire, is a ?pot
of some interest to the curious from the fact of it.^ bcin^
the resting place of the mortjal remains c*f Liiiiy Anne
<irimirtone. The 'old wifc^^ tale* of the neiphbourhood
in to th« I'ffect that the said Lody Annt! Grira*Jlone ivas
an Atheist, without a sbmlow of helief in the UeiJy; iin<l
that, m firm vas her lielief in the oaii-cxistem^Q of God,
that at her death-bed btr last words were to the ctTect
that if Godexi*teih seven elm trees would grow out of her
toiDbntone. Whether such words were u^ed, and in such
a manner, it i*( impossible at this date to determine ; but
whether the tale be correct or not. Aeven €lm trees have
sprung up throuj;rh the solkl tomh, and have broken
awrtv the sohd masonni' in all direction*, makinp^ the
readini^ of the inwriptiou a difficult and almost imposf^ible
feat. The iron riiilinif^ that flurrounded the raonumeut
are in mnriy plarrn rirndy imlxi-dded in the tninl^s of the
trees. The nujncroiH name^ earvefl in all available parts
of the trunks attest the number of vifiitora curiosity ha.H
drawn to the spot. The trees are each distinct and
sepftrtte, and^ notwith^tandinK the jitrangimejis* of the
locality, appear to thrive well. Many suppositions to
acc<)unt for their gn^owth have been f*tarted, but some are
of so improbable a nature that the country people still
cling to their favourite story of Lady Anne's Atheism."]
The Case of Mart Jobs^on, — Can any North-
of- En gland correspondent tell me whether time
has thrown any light upon the heavenly mumc,
blood-droppinfr*, mock »itins» and atrango rfippinjj^j^
which excited so much attention in the North
stifne thirty years ngi\ and concerning which Dr,
eiKsnaut)
rounw^^
atidl^^^
• that
Bath
altoM
Clanny of Sunderland published a ciicumstantia
narrative in 1841 ?
3, Gordon Villasw N.W.
Longs op BATXTOif. — Can any of your
Bpondents kindly inform me where I can
genealon-y of the family abore mentioned ? Burke
(Landed Gentry^ W. 894) saya, of the four sons (of
*' Thomas Long of Little Cheverill and Melkshani,
who was baptised 1570, died 1(154), the you
William, waa ancestor of the Longs of Ba|j
now extinct.'* 1 wish to trace the relat^
said to have existed between thia family and thfirt
of the late John Palmer^ Es^q,, 3LP.' for Bath
and inventor of the mail-coach service, Waltt ~
Longr, Esq,» of Bath, offered to leave his propen
lo Mr, Palmer on the condition of his t^ifcing T
name and arm«i of Long of Monkton. This 7
Palmer declined doing, and ultimately Mr. Loajr'
left hif* fortune (on the aforesaid ti'rm^) to Daniel
Jones (Long), whose raotht*r was Ellen^ youngei
dau;,Hiter of Kichard Long of Rood Ashton, wl|
died in 17(50, IL "~
Lionel Lane, ViCE-Ai>irrRAL o? the Flb
1653. — I am de-^irous of ascertaining the date i
this officer^a death. In the great battle
Tromp off tlie North Foreland he acted a
Admiral to Admiral Penn, and commanded
Victory, sixty guna, I learu from the Rev. J,
Deane's most interesting life of General Ric**'
Deane that in the above memorable actio
one capt^un besides General Deane waa
and that, Ringularly enough, bia name had '
forgotten. I suppose Vice- Admiral Lane ma? I
identilied with Lionel Lane (of Beccles, co. Su^
folk), "who was born in 1617, and married Dorothy,
one of the daughters of Edmund Bohtin, the
author. He belonged to a Suffolk family loPj
seated at Rendlesham Thuxton and Campsey /
C J. EoBixsojrj
*^ Mr.LA Brttajntoctts.'*— There are aome i
pblet5 published under this name : one cuno
IB a letter to the Dilettanti Society on the worl
in progress at Windsor Castle^ 1827, suggesting t'
removal of all the building except the lower wan
and erecting in its stead a palace of classical arch
tecture. Who wai5 the writer? C. B. "^
fThe following title appears in the Catalogue of!
Library* at the Hritiwh Museum: '*MeU, BriU
pH!ur|. *[i. r. Charles Kelsall. J A Letter to tho Soi
the DiHtanti on the works in progreaa at Wintl
M.B, London, 1827."]
Rfr Okorge Moore. — In the Hun^ri
pedigree in Gough*8 Sepulckral Monu'
marriage of Elizabeth Hunger ford with
Moore, Knf . In Hoare's Huntjerfordwha^ \
he i» Btyled ^^ of Loudon^ Knt/' Many
j Heraldic Vi^itatiooa, ike, referred to in
2iidev have been consulted without succeiv. j
I reader who can furnish u clue to tlia
^aVlL J43r.2«»7l0
NOTES AND QUERIES.
77
f«milr and htms of the aboTe-named knight will
gfeaily oblige a puzzkd SBA.RCfi£E.
"Pecca fortiter/*— Was it Luther who said
this; ond it* so, where*:' X. IL
Prdtci! Pubckler Mfskatj.— I ahotdd he pi ad
of any infornuiliMn about this prince. He wrote
two bo ".f.<m \n Africa and Tour in Ger-
many, ii ad En gland ^^ Ivan.
NxiTRMtAn KoQBKS. — What is known of Nehe-
miAh Ro^«m, vicar of Meaaing and prebendary of
EIt, author of^ —
"A Mirroar of Mercy, and that on God's Part and
tfu'i. S«t out in twij I'ambleJi ; L Tho Penitent Citizon,
or Narr Mag^Alcn'^ G^nvcrjiion, &c. ; II. The Gond
Suaviun^ ^c. Lcodou : Printed bv G. M. for Edward
S. A.
^'iwsTTT Bkakjs, the Man-eater, — The sub-
" Xa\ m 4"* S, vi, 4ti7, 55i), induces me
Lie? the chap-book history of the above
doMtlbtli pvraonage baa any fouDdniion in fact F
Stephen Jackson.
- A^D THK " COBEX SiK.ilTICrS." — In
1 >ean A 1 ford on ** The Gospels and
I Criticienj *' in the Contempfirarf/ Iiet'ien\
. ther« is the following reference to the
Oeielrated Cod**^ Smaitwiig :—
"A oorriispoDdcTit of The Gu^trdian of Jnue 12 of this
•<r>7J ia anxiou* to know ivbether the internal
of the srcnuinpnejs of the Sinaitic MS. ia sAth-
, . t; . ..i ;. .1. I jcjeniiinencjis flome-
* xed to thbi tract of
b *i unsere Evauffeiien
t vihitli ha^ Ix'cn translated for
\i- 'V by It. H, Con-|KT]. We are
^ ' ■ -• = ' it rest on this point*
'I " strongest po?^iblf^
ti --. If any man wero
Mi^L L [ilmost the durntioD of n
y- M-*i iLM 11. i. I.- >vhieb^ wo are
I in ibc V* I ! narrative of
I I -f nv.y 'jj' . Our friend
i raewhftt load,
Ar in exuTnples
U u«> i< • .. ,.....;. .iuxkty — uudis-
•aM \>\ the end— au to whether
UMco»i i'tf have got back, or are
HUqr tij gvi U>r;ument, which was
bntjnr^ to i i-tirg- — See p. 17 of
itelif«maii, p. ^. -..■ ;..^ u/"
A dj«ua«iin of this qtiestion might perhaps
Ind into forbidden fields. There is one point,
bovQ^r, connected with Tischendorf's di*fCovery
1 bo glad of farther lufommtion.
^iraoaidest, whone audacity m a
as been many timea mentioned
% a^ierted that he hinL^lf had
.. .lie MS. and placed it in the
where it wa*^ found by h^ learned and
ywtk diaooverar. An assertion of this nature, even
OB whirl
llear
from fiuch a manmig mijft as Simonidee, should be
refuted, but aft*3r a long search 1 have only been
able to 6nd an allusion to the matter in Tht
Athtn^um review of the Codex Sinniitctis, Will
some correspondent be kind enough to say where
Siuionides^ assertion ia to be found at length, and
what replies have been made to it ?
W. E. A, A.
Joynson Street, Strange ways.
WiLLUM Smith, 1530-165*5. — A certain Dr.
Smith preached at the martyrdom of Bidley and
Latimer, and made himself ' conspicuous on one
or two other occasions of a ^imilftr character;
and, from the testimony of another martyr, he
appears to have been a pervert. I am niixiousi
to discover whether tbia n:tnn was or was not
identical with a priest of the name of William
Smith, who was pRrish priest of Calais, and wrs
bimirthed from that city, after recantation, in I.'i,*iO.
1 have no interest in the preacher of the term on
if he be not the ?ame as the Calais pritst: but I
diould very much like to ascertain what became
of the latter. Can any one kindly b^lp nm ?
IIerme5trude.
SwoBD OP Sir Kdwakd FrHt.— Cnn any one
tell me what has become of a silver-mounted
sword which was presented by Charles 11. to Sir
Edward Fui^t of I till Court, co. Gloucester^ Bart.*
in 1602, and sold at the Hill Court sale in 1846 ?
Forb-^t-bux.
Jacques Stella (Crabb Robinson's Dmry, i.
447.) — In the text of this pa>ie Crabb Kol>in8on
mentions a picture painted In Itome liy Granet iu
the year 1810 Cnowin the LeuehtenburgCollection,
No. 245), n;- presenting Stella drawing a picture
of the Virgin and Child ** on hii prisoii wall/* A
note to the same page informa the reader that
Stelhi «m his arrival at Rome was arrest«d, but
soon after found innocent and liberated. Also,
that ** ^o late as the end of the eighteenth cen-
tury this sketch of the Madonna (on the priacii
Willi) was shown to travellers in Rome/' The
note, however, gives no furlhf r Information. Who
was this Stella 1^ When did he live, and of
wliat crime or misdemeanour was he, as it ap-
pears, unjustly accused ?
NOELL EaDECLIFFE.
[JarqueA SteUa was bora at Lyon in 1506, being the
Ron of Francois Stella, a pftinter,*who died when his son
wa.^ only nine years old. Having i^ont^ into Italy ut tho
age of "twenty, the Graod-Duke Cosmo H. eni:«^
Jjacque*! to carry out the decorations desitjned for the
celebration of the marriage of his son Ferdinand 11* At
the expiration of seven yeaw Stella went to liome, and
contracted a friendship with PouHain, of whom he liecamc
an inittiitor. llaviug by some treachery or mi'under-
standinfjr been cast into'priKon at Komc* Stella nmnsod
himfeidf by traeinj; on the wall, in charcoal, the (i retire of
the Virfjin with the infant Jcaus in her arini. Cardinal
Bnrberiui. hearing of the exeetleoce of the drawin?;,
went to see it, and from Ihat Vvma a. W^V^ \i!LVC!i^ t»*«»
:r8
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»»'S.YIL Ja».28,71.
mspeDctcd over it. Rctuminp in 1<>W W Venice and
Miuin to Frimcp, with the intt^iitimi of vj^itin^j Spain,
iht direction oftUa Acadcniy lit Milan was ofTered to him,
but declinwf, Hi» jounicv, however^ to Spain was frus-
trAted by Card inn 1 liicheficu, who seen red hira the titlfj
of painter to the Kinir, with npartrarat'* in tb** l^otjvre
iind a nenwon of l,itno francs a-reiir. In 1G14 the Order
of SU flliobael and thti rank of minripnl painter to thr^
king were confcrrisi on StcUu, ^md in 1057 he died nt Paris,
8c«nie at the churches of whicb possess paintings by
him.]
Trench's IIulsean Lectures, 184G. — ^To what
wortI» does the Archbishop allude ftt p, 43 of these
lectures when be refers to ** tlio jyreftt po+.'t of our
modem world " as making ** the glad voices of the
KftStcm hymn of poteDcv snii!icieiit to wrest the
poison-cup frnoi Lbe Imnd of oae who had already
raised it to his lips ? *' I\ J, F, Gaittillon.
ever since.
AMERICAN M NATIONAL SONG."
(4*'' S. Til. 11.)
I haye groat ple^suro in funiiahiog a copy of
this soD^, which I so much admired on its first
appearance in our papera iu 1813 for its fine poetry
and spirited compusilioD, that I have pres»erved it
F. C. IL
** CoLUiinrA,
•'Cokimbia*!* .4jor(?9 ore wild and wide,
ColumhiaV hill!;; aru hjjfh;
And rudely plnnltthl side by side,
Her forests mwt the eye.
But narrow tnu^t thom shorei be mado^
And low C<j!umbia*s htlb,
And low her nueU^ul fore^to laid,
Ere Freedom leave* her iields:
For 'tia the land where, radc and wild,
Sh« played her gambols when a cliild,
" And deep and wide her streams that flow
ImpetuouH to the tide;
And thick and ^^reen the laurels ^ow
Un t'vejry river'a f<ide.
But should a tran^tlrmtichost
Pollute her waters fair.
We'll meet them on the rockj' coaat,
And icather hiurels there : *
For oh I t\ilum bin's sons are hrave,
And free ais ocean s wildest wave,
** The gnles that wave her mounUin pine
Are fragrant and «erene ;
And never clearer Bun did shine.
Than lifthLH her valleys green.
But putrid iuu»t tho«j breezes blow.
That sun munt *ct in gore»
Ere footstep? ot a foreign Uie
Imprint Columhia'8 »hore ;
Ft»r oh E her son'^ are brave and free ;
Their breasts beat high with liberty*
** For arming boldest cuirassier,
\Ve*ve mines of sterling worthy
For sword and buckle r, spur and fpear,
Embowelk'd in the e«rtb.
For ere Columbia's sona reaign
The hfjon their fathers won*
The polLi^hed ore frcini every mine
Shall glitter in the sun :
For brijjht's I he blade nnd sharp Ihe spear
Whioh Freedom's son* to battle bear,
** Let Britain boast of deedft she's dooe,
Display her trophies bright,
And count hor Inureh bravely won
in well-contested fight ;
Columbia can a ban array.
Will wreat the Inurel wreath;
Wilh trntr eye and fite4idier hand,
Will strike the blow of death.
For whi'ther on the land or sea,
Cciltimbia's light is victory I
**IM France in blood through Europe wadc^ ]
And in her frantic mood,
In civil dij^conl draw the blade.
Ami iipill her chiMren's blood,
T(K> deer the skill in iirms i^ boughtt
Where kindred lifu- blood tlow?,
Ctdumhia'A mn» are only tatiglit
To triumph o'er their' foes?
And then to comfort, soothe and save.
The feeliuga of the conquered brave.
" Then let Columbia's eagle soar,
And bear her banner hi^h;
The thunder from her dexter pour.
And lightning from her cyt.
And when she j^ees from rettlniA above,
The storm of war h fin en t ;
Desecnilin^, like the wejjtiome duve^
The olive brane;h prejfipnti
And ilien will Beauty'^ haud divine
The never-fading wreath entwine 1 '*
ORDRE niPERIAL ASIATIQUE BE MORALS;
UKIVERSELLE.
(4**' S, T, 300, 475, ol2j vi. 16o.)
Dr. Rohekt Bigsby, in his reply to queries ]
I^EX rekting to the above order, riefernid him
M . Gourilon de iJ enouillac's Dittionmiire htsi
des Otdrcg ile Chavuhrie (Paris, 18C»0) for on ac^
CO nut of its creation ; and Mr. Woouward aub-
aequently conferred an obligation on many of
5'oitr readers by giving (vi, 1^)5) an extract from
that work to the ellect that the Ordre Imp^rb^
Asiatique de Morale Univt'rselle owed its orig*
l.D. 1835, to the Sultimn Alina d'Eldir during!
reaidence in France.
Mr, Woobwahi* pertineotlv nsked certain que
tions baseit on the imperfect lu formation allardd
by _M. Gourdon de Genouilkc, but they have et'
dently escaped the notice of Dr. Bigshy, who, ;
a constant reader and eorri ^pendent of ** X, & Q
(vide V. 512 and oltj), and as the ''Grand Malt
Conservalcur '* of the order (v. 472), would
dubitahly, bad ho nbsfrved Mr* WqodwaroIJ
queries, have readily aiForded ej^hauative replie
And that a full explanation of certain ditficullia
is absolutely needed, I venture moat strougly
i^avn. jAit.28,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
79
aver» sine*, owin^ to tbe reticence of the Knighta
of the "Imperial t>rder '' which she fouDaed,
manv bard thinjrs have been said of late regarding
tn Ulusiiious ladj whoae conduct has been crili-
OBcdy irbo0e mitecedenta hftre been animadyerted
n^.ta. and who«e exalted rank has been pronounced
1 ^ :ii yn? than one of the would-be cognoscenti to
t • ^^ mrthical ae the honours whicli she ia said
rto hiite conferred. All this is most lamentable,
' Vul 16 it not entirely to be attributed to tbe cul-
|abk Mir nee of tho^e bound by every law of chi-
fftln to defend her ? Now that public attention
h» Ven aroused, contemptuous tsileoce will not
Mii>fy it. The fate of the ** Imperial Order," tbe
linn 'tjfd of its difltinguiahed raenibers, are inex-
tricably interwoven with the rank^ power, and
dijfTiity of iU founder, nud miiat atand or full with
tb^Qi ; and although Da. BlosBY, in his rei*ti-icted
...1. * . T ^ undoubtedly did aay that ^* for any
nmuDicfltioQ Lex might look to others,
. «iialv tbould not condescend to enlighten
ifli dtrknesa/' yet since the '* Grand Maitre Con-
IRTileur'' of an order mufit with justice be uni-
TetMUy reicrarded as the mouthpiece and champion
of the confraternity » and since the world's ver-
dict ctmiot fail Xo be gravely in Huencod by any
fftrtlicr Mfticen6e on his part, I do trust that Be,
^' rrr will reconsider his somewhat too haaty
vn, and will deigTi to be more complakant
' ^^ >o0WAUD, or even to tbia lc»8 than the
from having travelled much in the far
11 aa from other reasons^ takes a deep
rOrdre Imp^^rial Aajatique de Morale
In justice, therefore, to the deceased
!)il with appropriate respect for the
r which Bhe created, I repeat one
i;d's unanswered c^ueries, and add I
•i mine own,
laik, firrtly, in what part of Asia iji situated
t^p s.^irnr, ,r,. of Eldir? Both of my old-fashioned I
: liil to help me, and I am not aatiafied I
mewhat va^ue information given to I
V by a difitinguiahed Fi-Unw of tbe
il Society, to whom, aeistinp him by the
our cJub, I propounded the inquiry,
f should hftvo thoufz^ht, when 1 accosted hini,
1L*1 be WAS about the most idle man in town, [
^F-^ume suddenly animated on bearing
1, and stating- somewhftt confusedly
- *^veryono knew, formed part of the
J* of Prcater John, he pleaded an
ment in the City, and hurriedly
pdriure. But I req^uire aomething
' than this — the latitude and loD>n-
". Secondly, I wbh to be made
certain passages in tbe history of
zo\^ Alma d^Eldir/' Was 'she
*' ? and if so, from whatroval race
L _ r au^uet origin ? Was she in her
^fWB light iovcreigii of an Asiatic realm? or, as on©
of Mi:
«irtaiii
ijuci'Ti at
bfit br
Gi.. ^.u- u.^.
of the four wives dear to Mohomedan orthodoxy,
did she reign supreme over only five-and-twenty
per cent of the heart of the Sultan of Eldir ?
In the former e?ent» was it the disafl'ection and
rebellion of her Mogbul subjects which drove her
into unmerited exile and to a lifelong banisbment
in a foreign land 'i or, in tbe latter case, did she
incur the dis>ple«sure of her exalted but capricious
mastert and escape tbe fatal sack, tbe deadly
bowstring, or even the minor evil of the abscission
of her no8e and eai-s, by eluding the vigilance of the
eunucha who guarded the hated harem ? But a
third and more commonplace cause occurs to me
for the exijatriation of the Sultana : death may
have dared to strike low the king of kinffs, tlie
monarch of Eldir, and AUna ma^ nave coUapRed
into a dowager ! Under such circumstances her
flight would not have been interfered with, for
the sultan who filled the musnud of her deceased
lord would have cared too much for the comfort
of his own wives, commissioned and non-com-
missioned, to have given himself much concern
about tbe ancient encumbrances of the xenanah
who mourned tbe loss of his predecesfsor ; and
Alino, left to her own devices, would have made
her way to France, and have found in ita ^%j
capitil consolation in her widowhood.
Thirdly and lastly, I seek to Imow how, under
either of the above suppositions, the Mogbul ex-
Sultana Alina, during tier imposed or voluntary
exile, could legitiaiately have created in France a
Christian Order of Chivalry, or, in short, have
ext-rcised any ** imperial "' powers whatsoever,
Bk. Brosnr will not consider any apology to^
be due from me for thus specially and urgently
calling upon him by name to answer the above
queries, lor in a work which he has recently pub-
lished he baa himself announced tbe high positioa
which he holds in the Order under notice; and
thery can therefore lue tio discourtesy or impro-
priety in my publicly addrc^inf? a public otCice*
b<?arer on a question in which the public is
evidently interested. Nay, rather am I con-
strained" to believe that Dk Biosur will esteem
it both a duty and a pleasure to guard the honour
of the order of which he is the " Conserva-
teur,'' and to vindicate tbe fame of its illustrioua
founder.
But, apart from th«>se supreme considerations,
it 19 certain that one who has so recently subAcrib^d
himself in your pages (v. 515) *' Knight of St
James of ttie Sword, and of other Orders,*' will
be only too eager manfully to do lii^ deimr a;* a
gallajit chevalier, and to shed the last drop of liis
ink in the service of Aliaa d*Eldir.
MxrsAFnit.
60
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t4*»»S.TU. J^*^, Ti.
WRONG DATES IN CERTAIN BIOGRAPHIES.
(4»*'S, tL410; vil460
A nLmple e]tplaoQtioii will account for what
would otherwise seem unjustifiable careleaiueBfi
on mv part in connection with my reiuarki> about
the Siite of the Ettrick Sht^p herd's birth^ and
M^ars. Blackie's late edition of his work. At
the heih'inning and end of the second yolume of
thttl editioDf Messrs. Blackie present narratives of
the Shepherd's life — & memoir, and an autobio-
pAphj. The work was iflsued in monthly parts ;
I liud nij hands on that part which contained the
KOtoMog^raphy, and in whichj without note or
comment^ these words occur : —
" t ntn the second of four eon« by the same fiather mid
mother — namely, Robert Hof^g arid Mar^Jirct LaidluiiVf
and W&9 born oa th« 25th of Jauuar}'* 1772/'
As this was likely, in the late as in the for-
mer edition of Messrs. BkcMe'd ia^ue of the
poet's writings, to be allowed to stand aa part
of the memoir, did I err far in concluding that
thia was the only statement intended to be put
forth by the biographer P Where there are
two njpmoirB, one ai each end cf a book, moat
TeoderB would, like uyaelf, accept the fact^ given
in the Jird he fell upon, and would not think
of waiting for any further relation in an additional
biography which' might or might not be foilh-
comiDg,
Since I am writing about the Shepherd, I may
remark that Messra. Blackie haye retained in
their late edition of his poems three songs which
I showed in the fiif*t edition of my ScottUh Min-
9ird (186tJ) were comptised by othern*. These
are — *' la your war-pipe asleep, and for ever,
BlGCrimman P " "0 saw ye this sweet honnie
lawio o' mine ? ** and ** Rise, rise, Lowland and
Highlandman.-'
These songs were severally composed by George
Allan, Jame^ Home, and John Imlah. To the
JEttrick hard the three song-writers seem to have
sent oompositiona for approval, and their songs
heing found among his papers at his death, were
included among his posthumous writingn. The
mistake was venial, no doubt, but when corrected
it ought not to have been repeated. Otherwise
Messra. Blackie^s edition of the Shepherd's works
is prepared creditably,
ClIABLlta BOQBBdj LL.I).
&i0wdoiiii VUliu LewUham, S.E.
PORTRAIT AND SKULLS OF CAROL AN.
(4^'' a vi. .124, 392, 507, 546.)
I am quite unable to discorer the ** proofs *' or
*' undeceptions " which Mk. Pinkkrton professes
to give in hts latest communication nonunally on
the above subject, with the exception of ^^ proofs**
to be unwisely and unwittingly rude to Irishmen
and unjust to Ireland, which \a not at all un-
common among the natives or the pretended
natives of that great and just and now univerfally
respected country, from which his favours are at
present dated, and ^^ undeceptions '* which all
must experience who may have expected that
writer in *^ N. Sc Q/' would not only stick to hi
subject and eschew personalities, but be a Uti
consistent with himself, even suppose in expi
rash or erroneous j udgment.
However, as Mr. Piskertox appears to put
an argumm^m mi miset^icortliam in stating he
** away from the bulk of his books at present,
cannot speak so positively as he could wish,'*
that on the very subject at issue, I suppose
must not be too hard on him, though the tjuesti^
naturally suggests itself, why then has he wn
at all ?
To assert as he does that ** the skulls of Iri
men never pr<>duced a saleable article" until
bones of the dead began to be exported to bonnj
Scotland, and to the other great and ** univcrgu"
respected '* country*, may he very tasteful or r<
witty, or at least facetious ; hut it certainly is m
tiiie, or even to the purpose. For instjiucc, tl
heads of Edmund Burke and of hii? friend Go]
smithf of Swift, of one Heun^ G rattan, of a pe
called Tom Moore, of Berkley, of Boyle, and >
some few other Iri^men, have undoubted!
" produced saleable articles'' in abundance, thoti
the possessors of them were not quite an c<
mercially minded as to sell their country' into
bargmn, which we have no doubt some of
?iatwn botdwui^re would not scruple doing as
of their trade.
Again^ Mr. Pinkbrton's innoceoce—
ignoraore would not be polite — of In
which has led him to make the discarded ; ni a
credited statement that there were few, if an^
nationid harps in Ireland in the seventeenth
tury ! — a blunder ol his which he does not
sume to repeat — lends him now to asaevtj
** the Irish after battle never buried their ~
an assertion which will cause some am^
no doubt among the well-informed readeic
" N.& Q./' and make them exclaim with 8h
speare —
"Man, proud man ....
MoHt ignonmi of what he most sasames.'"
Thirt assertion of his is a libel on Ir*^l/Lud ai
the Irish. Dean Story, it is true (A f '
of the Hiitonj of the Warn of Irehn
S'ves a sad picture of the field of Anghniu afi
e battle in July, 1(591, when —
**The gTcatPflt mischief thiil happened by the Ii
remnviuf^ wae to have tb« Carciuvte* of their CDoMtr^'
for want of Burial* ex poised to tho Bird^ of the Air,
the Beastii of the tieid.'*
He in the same page relates the story of thf
wonderful fidelity of the Irish dog which re-
J
1* & VIL JA3I. 28, 7K]
NOTES AND QUEBIES,
ftl
>r. ■
liny ■/.,
(if ii'^rr
nuuned '* night wid day " by the liody of hia
master —
**Aad tho' h« fed upon other Corps with th« r€it of
^■^^^^■^ vtt. he wciald not ftUow titeoi or any thing islio
^^^■UmI of his Muttor/'
^(^0 of Col. Poulk*s soldiers shot the faithful
Rnimiil.> But we have no proof that it wa§ not
th <»f the Irish to bury their dead after
Vi this instance, or from others in addi-
tion. .VI p. 229 of the same history. Dean Story
bformd us that, on September 25, ]*Jf)l, after the
cuiliilAtioo of Litnenck, sevenii of the principal
Miem and others of the Iri^h army cjime from
llwfr Howe Camp : —
"And dmiog with the general, thej* went afterwards
into lown in a boat row«i by French neamen (ther«
Wiug ihi^n three res&eb drawn up witbin the Key, and
fifK ' f ttir-ni ^wnk n-crooa it, to prevent onr corainfj up
Ijt by wjiy of Surprise; as they rid
Bridjy towartU the Boat, a party or
,. i.tt4-*'i'f^i the dead killed in the tost
,1 .' .' iired foT xetfrral people u-hnm
i r t/it! CcMMOiion wa* continued
> - d on the same authority that
tory, brother of the writer, who waa
ije war, ** wa^i biiri*.nl with military
mars by the Irish ; and there can be no doubt
[iev»T that when the churchyarda were filled
V'' ' ^ad, places contig-uous to them were
nr i to purposes of ioterraent by the
ln?fu^H J act very recently more particularly de-
iBOWtnited near the cemeteiy of St. John s, in
lie city of Limerick, where/ some feet beneath
the surface of the street which had been opened
tip, layer* of human bones became exposed to
^w — the bones of those who were buned after
i)iH si. V ^-lill^t the stone tablet on the wall of
n question states that the wall
.^ter the slaughter of that siege,
mentioned, too, that in the memorable
ri tix>k place near Butte van t, in the
Cork, in the days of Macallist^r, the
^^ weTo removed to the churchyard of that
rhcre some of their bones may yet be seen
1 n yault wall, in the interior of what was
ipeL
1 we have not only the Irish dead
UhT battl's but buried in consecrated
Can Mil. PiKKEUTON my the same of
;>x ■.(.-« of Kngiifih soldiers who have been slain in
Uttle?
Ij*alljdo not see the appropriateness of the
aewtssuo mi Jed in Mu, Pinkfrton's letter touch-
hf ** moat grown o>n the human skull," except it ts
Malbwf arffmmmtum ad mimruwrdiam to account
fef |||# iniTK^rrectiona of bls defence^ or that in
vMb^"^ .ipposes he has done the correct
fkfatf in ^ *u the principle mentioned at
m Ml of ftbi Mine iamie of ** N, & Q.,'' viss. that
**1ke pUoeojpilMr thonM end with medicine."
Neither can I see why the Rev, Dr. Tifldale could
not present a portrait of Carolan in court diesa
the Royal Irish Academy because there w
wiother Dr. Tisdale in tho time of Deau Swift !
Still less con I discover any establishment of
Mb. PnntEXTON's claim to be esteemed a judge
of the merits of Carolan's rich poetry in the state-
ment made by htm that he knows the bard's poeraa
'* only from translations/' which he naively adds,
" I say is not knowing them at all.'' Well, I saj
so too; and I would ask him to consult Hardi-
man's IrUh Min^relai/, with which he profewei 1
to be acquainted, more closely and patiently, audi
inquire why does he attempt not only t^ cnticise,
but to decry Carol an' B son g^s ? And 'why will be
be so unwise as to rail at his music, which all the
rest of the world admires ?
I have now before j
1.
** A Favorite CollecUon fifth© ni;ach admired Old Irisdi
Tnnei9, the Original and GenuiaQ Compositions of Carolan
the cttebrafed Irish Bard, set tor the llarpaichord, Piano
Forte, Vidin, and GGrmian Flntc."
They were ** published by Hime, 34, College
Green, Dublin, ' about the dose of the last cen-
tury. These airs awake an echo wherever they
are heard In Ireland, even at this moment ; and
nothing that Mil Pinkerton can say to the con-
trary IS calculated to deprive them of a high i
order of merit. They are expressive, national,
full of feeling, force, soul, and energy.
As a lesser kcAf of Mr. Pinkerton*^, I may
mention that he mistakes the circumstances and
fact^ coDBected with the anecdote which he quotes
about Carolan and 0*Flynn, Siippo.^ing thti state-
ments respecting the priocipal points at i^ue to
be correct, what does Mr. Plnjcerion^s argument,
if I can so designate it, amount to, after all?
Just this —
1. That h© has not as yet been able to identify
Watty Cox*s likeness of Carolan with that pub-
lished by Hardiman.
2. That a friend of IVln. Pinkerton's at the
British Museum states that one portrait sent by
Mr. Pinkerton is not like Ilardiman's, w*bich
conveys the likeness of a youivr man, while that
of Watty Cox is of an old man !
3. That Mr. PofKERTOn thinks that Carolan
is, in Ireland, a greatly overrated man. He
(Caroliin), however* has left more and better
music than any English composer; and I ho^K* to
see the day when that muyic will be republished
iu a style worthy of it and of the composer a
genius. ^ [
Mb. PiloaBRTOif ha^ failed to prove that foreign
artists did not yisifc Ireland lin the eighteenth
century, I have shown that they did.
Me. Pikkrrton has ^* some words to aay to
Mr. Lewihjln on his knowledge of Irish history,"
a subject on which he thinks he has already
demoDfitrated Mil PitiKSSLT0i9i^& VntkocK^^JCi^ \)^^
82
NOTES AND QUERIED
[i^^s. vn, jAjf,«8,7i.
sadidently to preclude the neceflsity of prolondog
a controversy which be baa wantonly provoked,
and in which h6 has manifested an absurd con-
tempt for Ireland and the Irish. As to hU random
nsaertions, unsupported by the slightest proof, on
tbe subject at is^ue, vix. Carolan's skull^ and the
other issues he bos raised in his discursive tligfats
of fancy, ou Carolan*8 poetry, music, foreign artists
in Ireland in the eighteenth century, the burial of
the dead by the Irish after battle, moss on fikulls^
See, &c., they do not nmke it clear that he lh gifted
with the true scholar's modesty, or even with the
cooler judgment of the Ecglisbman.
There can be no dtnibt tbat Carolan was well
received in the mansions and at the tJibles of the
principal nobility and gentry of Ireland. lie
dedicated the chief part of his compositions to the
O'Connors, the MacDemiots, the Loftus Joneses
(** Bumper Squire Jone^"}, the Hurkes, Lords
of Mayor (*• fieriia .Mayo '*), the Kellys, the
Crtiises, the Louths^ the Roscommons, the 8tal-
fords, the Tevtons, and others also nf the leading
families of CounaughL He travGlM south, and
was equally well received in Clare, Tipperary,
Waterford, and Limerick, Hardirami supports
our conjecture that the genmnt* portrait of the
celebrated Irij*h bani was painted by Van dor
Hagen, who was employed when Carolan was in
the zenith of manhood and fame, at Lord Ty-
rone's (county Waterford), Mr. Christmas's (Whit-
tiald, SAme county), by the city of Waterford
Corporation, &c., and doubtless elsewhere in this
country. At Boonas Iloufse, the truly pictumRque
residence in the neighbourhood of" Liaimck of
the then Dean Massy, Van der JTagen myt Caro-
lan, and it is believed that it was at Doonjvs the
genuine portrait of the hard was painted by tho
well-known and clever Dutch artist, Stmnge to
pay, Mk, Pinkertox admits this, though be still
persists in his unaccountable contentions*
Mai EicE Lenihak, M.Il,LA.
Limerick.
SIR WILLIAM ROGER, KXT.
(4»'» a L 458; iv. 107, 222, 342, 545 j v. 07, 214,
:32<]; vL 482,552.)
As an accomplished heraldic scholar I nm sure
that, on reflection, Ma. J, C, Roqkr will pardon
me for helpinjar to settle the question as to the
gemtineneas of "the casts" whidi he communis
cated to Mr, H. Lain^ for his ** Supplemental
Catalogue of Scottish Seals.'' The question is
twofold. First, How did his father, the lat^s Mr.
Cbarlea Roger, obtain these casta F Secondly,
Are the caAts what they purport to be ? With
reference to the second part of the question, Mr*
J. C, Ko<3Ea may easily satisfy himself that Sir
William Ropr (tecimdus) neither owned nor waa
connected with laud in Galston in 1533, the dikte
of cast No. 851 in Mr. Lning's Toluine. There
never was such a kniffht. As to the first portiq^H
of the question^ Mr. J. C. Kogee has &hown th^|
the heirs of Mr. Thomas? Meik, the allej^ed pu^^
chaser of the Coupar Orange estate, need not be
troubled to produce their tiile-deeds, since ** tb
casts '* turn out not to be family heirlooms,
hia father, Mr. J. C. Hoger writes, they we
** communicated by the late Mr. D*?uchar, eeal-
engraver, Edinburgh." lli\ Deuchap was
excellent heraldic scholar, and was altogethi
incapable of perpetrating an heraldic forgery. Bf
Mr. Roger has, I fear, been mlsinfomied as to
Mr. Deuchar having any connection with " the
ciists.*' In 1817 Mr. Deuchar published a wo
entitled ^^ British Crests.'* In that work no Scotti
family of Roger or Rogers is named as u&ing ev
a crest Of four English families whom Mr. De^
char names, none have heraldic insi;znia such i
those in *' the casts.*' Some time aftt^r the puta
lication of his ** Crests," my late father, the K^
James Roger, minister of Duuino, Fifeshire,
quosted Mr. Deuchar to discover his coat of arn
with a view to its being engraved. After a s^rc
Mr. Deuchar reported that the Coupar Granf
family had no crest or coat of arms, lie off(
to devise one, " Make something/' said
father, ** which will suit the motto Le Hoy
rjjf/lise.'* Mr. Deuchar did so, exhibiting as i
crest a dexter hand holding a crosier. This 6U
mounted a shield with charges entirely
from those of ** the ca^its,'* But might not
Deuchar, in the course of further research, hftl{
got new light on the history of the Coupar Grazig
jfamily ? It is certain that he did not The who
of hia researches comiected with the cresta
8cottish familiea are embodied iji *' Fairb
Cre.^ts/* a well-Tinown work published at Edinbu
in LSt30 under the superintendence of Mr. Lauren
Butters, eeal-engraver to the Queen. lo tbij
work my fathers crest, designed by Mr, Dettcbi
forty years before, is described im that of Iq
Scottish house of Roger. Mr. Deuchar di^
before 1850. To the day of hia death ho nevj
had any communicfttion with the father of
J. C. RooRR, This I assert positively. The Mar
well sculpture, it now appearp, was not found 1
the non-existing Marywell, but ^* in a ruin^
house at West Town of Coupar Grange,** wh6
a John riayfair lived in one century, and wbe
a George Roger, to suit tho letters *^ G. R.**
the drawing, might have lived in another.
Mr. H* Laing'a aupplemental volume Mr. J.
Roger's father is represented as having describ
the seal of Sir WilliaiTi Roger {Mcamdui) tha
** Sir William Roger, Knt., from an instrunn^^
dated 1533 concerning or conveying a piece
gn^und within the parish of Galston/' In ** N.& (
Mb. J. C. Roger states that the narrative of til
cretts was not in Aw father^ a hunduTtiin^* Mo
i*^S.Tn. JAX.2a»7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
83
leeenily he finds that '^the CMts^' were ''coni'
ttooieated by M>. Deuchar."
Mit. J. CRooKR chflr;je3 tne with hft^ing, in
184>7, clftiiiKfd descent from Sir Williftm linger
in IK bonk which I then publiaht^d. Mast true; I
Ipli.'T.jl )ii« statement contained in Mr. IL Lai Jig's
IF 4ied the year previoURly. I have long
t-. . J, ;oGKE to be an expert heraldic scholar,
bb her^dic dra^infra and descriptions being ex-
quisite. I would have respected hia authority
idU, had not invest i^mtions lately made led me to
pfrr?eive tlvatin the preaent instance he 18 in error.
And let hit mbhap be a wamiDf; to all grenealo*
fists, for 1 have Rubjected myself to be twitted
Qot only by the gentleman whose authority I fol-
IdWfd/but'by another (W. B.), to whom Mr, J.
C. RoaKit 18 evidently a atranger.
Charles r^oeEB3, LL,D.
Mr. WtyDUAM ANi> THE Keporteus (4**' S.
tI J17,) — t find among some letters in my pos-
Ktaion of distinguished men» litem ry aud politirftl,
ili^r^ i< >i It^tter from Mr. Windham, dnted Pall
-♦ 1810, addreftsed to a relative of my
' period, connected with the public
1 ttin>wd li^ht OQ the subject in ques*
. .1 copy of which I annex, as you may
•it»cm It suitable for insertion in your columns.
T ani ;n- linpd to think that, after thw letter hod
: . the interdict was removed, and Mr.
speeches were duly reported : —
P» PaU Mall, Feb. 8tb, 1810.
lin to your letter, I find in part
I , oii^on^ which Jead xnc to sup-
r - i was otherwise di^po^ed to give
t v<nt my replying to it at all, if it was
c ^ir>n that I might be enppoMd either
M to h ^aiet4?e in the truth of the
ibo^ ui -\y t»r con turn ntioiiMly the
tll«ticM lijin nothing but the aoci-
^Ktuor wtitjiiiy sitoatioa cotdd distinguiiih in any decree
ftmn mv««"lfi
' speech in question, you mu$t know
t. ij;^ iu any part of it that warrantt^l
•1" - , . rijflt ivould furnish a just ground of
trah]M4itiit to uny mvn of nny description, unlois it Ahould
busKfEDt to maintain tbnt'no pubhck body or deacrip*
Iwnof mm can ha r ' i'hout the censure being
«>pfK«ci] to Ih5 iipi V to ench individu4]l of
•^•"Ti tin' Ihm'v \yii. , Hf who was in any way
it: a iiosilioii which would sonnd but
' fin the part of thos« who are eveiy day
«i * 1 most nareftervcd terms,
CI' I
places, I beg to a^are
ft> ^uugh 1 believe I might)
«o to protect mo in any-
Ciiuc mill u i J I LIT,!: lijiJuu'nL jl right t(j S^Av there,
•* I am. Sir,
Your obetlii-nt
Humble wrvant,
(Signed) W. WiJcmiAM."
K Kawoox Power.
Tsfthy, S. Walat.
-■^
Legal Commonplaces, temp, James I. f4«** S,
rii. 6.) — I had no expectation that my extrnct*
S.
Til. b,) — 1 liad no expectation tlmt my extrnctftj
from this MS. which I submitted to your notice,
would have been at once adoptt d for publlc^ation,
or I &hould have taken more pmns in their ^elec-
tion and arrangement, and I am sorry tlmt your
printer did not receive my revision of the proof-
copy before it went to pre8.«. Will you now per-
mit me to supply a few amendments to somo
errors in the *^ acute et graviter dicta " P —
P. 0» line 28 from bottom, for *^ patrem " read
I'perram " (sic in orig.) : coi 2^ line 1, for **puj*]i-
ing *' read *' pusling " ; line 12^ for " nullo " rend
*♦ nollo ^' ; line 24 from bottom, for " feofm. ^' read
" psotm " J line 14 frum bottom, the raying of fc?t,
Jerom touching speech should begin **tria necen-
snritt"; p. 7, line Itl, I doubt whether the jewel-
ler's name should not read *' vanlore " instead of
" vaiUoee ^* ; line 30 from bottom, the blniik
nhould be tilled up " 'Sovihumhej-tami in the starr
Chamber.*^
Tho anecdote about Mrs. Babingtorii Mrs. Ashe,
&:c., ia so illegible, tltut I can mul{«> nothiug out
(if it; but in the third line. *' aheea*' should read
" thes , . . Who were these ladiea ? aud who was
old mother Stephens P
X take this opportunity of drawing observation
to two passttgefl which may lead to the ideutificn-
tion of the reporter. Under his head of* Geueral
Observations, he remarks that his father was one
of those authorised by the Lord Chancellor to
make or pass green books (whatever that may
mean), hut not in the character of Clerk of the
Crown. The writer's father then filled the post
of Clerk of the Crown.
One of the " acute et graviter dicta" of Bacon
was spoken of the writer himself in the case
between Francklyn aud Gascoigne ; he was theie*
fore one of the counsel in that cause, in which he
was opposed to Bacon. G, A, C.
Hatr oRowiNo AFTER Beath (4**" S. vi. 524 ;
vii. 6(3.)*- May I aug-ge^t tljat, when Mb. ToT^s^fs*
iiEND Mayer instanced the, case of Charles L as
contrary to that of the lady quoted by Hawthorne,
he should have remembered that no fiubstancu for
the growth of the hair could possibly be derived
from the body of the decapitated monarch, since
all the natural ducts to the roots of the hair were
severed. Assuming that lIftwthome*s statement
be correct, where he says "her whole substance
seems to have been tranaformed," i*, e. into ** beau-
tiful chesnut hair/' the wonder would have been
to have discovered any growth whatever in the
beard and hair of King Charles, since the head
alone could bave supplied the subatsnoe for that
growth. Obobgb W^alus.
South Kensington Mu»eum.
It is observed by Mb. TowKsnExn Mater
that the indestructibility of hair is shown, b^ iW
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[<«»S.VII. Ja».M,71.
1
fact that a portion of Henry VII I /s beard was
found upon 1ii» chin at the time when the coffin
of Charlie I, was opened in 181S. I can adduce
h mach more remarkable Instance. I aasisted in
the year 1832 in unwrapping an embalmed body
diecrtvoi^ed in front of where the high altar for-
merly stood in Wymondham Abbey in Norfolk.
It was the body of a female^ who was satiafoc-
torilv proved to have been the wife of William
D'Albmi, the founder of the abbey. She bad
died young and in childbirth. Iler hair had been
cut oti'^ and we found a profusion of it lying de-
tached on the right side of the neck^ of a bright
auburn colour^ and in perfect prestjrvation. I
brought away a small lock of this hair, which is
now lying before me, and perfectly preserved after
more than 700 years from the time of the lady's
decease. I wrote a full account of the discovoiyt
embidmingf and appearance of the body in a maga-
zine at the time. F. C, H.
Ax IkKMTEO EtBay by OLTTElt GOLBgltlTlI
(4*'' S, vii. 9, 6fl)— Mr. Crossley's righteotw
indignation seems Uj have been moved in no ordi-
nary degree by the production of ** pix>r Goldy*a*'
dirge. (Granting that it is twaddle, and Ibat
•* mediocrity iauot allowed to poets, either by the
gods or men/' can he have for^^otten that even
good Homer sometimes nods '* ? I had it ori-
ginally, many years ago, fi\im the Inte Captain
Adderley Sleigh, K.T.S,, in whose family to hare
doubted of its authenticity would indeed have
been worse than any heterodoxy. Moreover, one of
the primary objects, I take it, of **^^, & Q/' is to
drculate these fascicles with a view to their
paasing through the crucible of its readers' intel-
ligence ; even as pictures, when brought together
from all sorts of private collections at some great
national exhibition, have their merits and genuine-
neaa at once accepted or rejected : —
*■ Cocido et compdno quiD mox depromcro ponim/*
MOO&LAIYD La.]>.
Whale's lira at Sorbento (4** 8. vit. 30.) —
In the inscription^ which was most correctly
copied, the word in t^e first line is oostion.
w, a B.
** CtntBERLAKD*a Britisii Theatre '* (4^ S. m,
403.)^! doubted that the late George Daniel was
the editor, because the text U so incorrect /»«*!*>«.
I Bpeak not of pi inters' errata^ that a stroke of the
pen can correct, but of frequent omissions of
whole lines, bad puncltuktion, &c. Duncombc's
Tktairt is far moi-e correct in the text, though
inferior in other respects. Bv-the-bye, this last-
named work contains *' Mr. Wul Pry," bv Dou-
glas Jerrold. It is a better play than Voole's
comedy. One of the chamcters is Sir Spangle
Rwiibow, It was produced at the Cobourjf, and
amongst the acton named in th« dramatit per^
stma IS Mr. Buckstone* If the play is by JerroIdJ
why is it not in the published collection of " "
dramas? Biephex Jaojeson.
A WiKTjcii SATme (4** S. vi. 495 ; Vii. IB.)— I
a recent number of »*N, & Q," it is mentione
that there h a popular saying in Nottingbamshire^l
that if the ice will bear a man before Christma%J
it will not bear a mouse afterwards.
A 8<.»mewhat similar saying prevails in Notth
hamahire and neighbouring counties^ which
perhaps not unworthy of note :—
" If there's ice in Xonembcr that '11 Ixjsr a duck,
Therti'U be nothing after but slodge aiid muck.**
The country people in Nottinghamshire pr
pbesy that the ensuing winter will be a mild onfl
basing their prognostication upon the fact of
wind being Boutherly on St, Martin-s Evr f
A. E, L. ;
I have heard this given in another form ; — " ]
the ice will bear a goose before ^V *
Mm'tlemas as my informant pronon
not bear a duck after/* Can the exp+ nviir*' ui *
reader of ** N. & Q," verify this saying P
LrniJ
Wabm= Wbajltht (4^* S, iv. 256, 320, 489.]
Slightly apposite is one of the anagrams given i
Camden's liernmiUy p. 211) (ed» 1674) : —
** Afterword, a.i ap^j^ureth bv /
^ome Gretkt tUaported tbemsefvi '^hid
turned , . ♦ //am*, merryt into L. , rm***
Joiuf ADOiflu
TitE PiEn PiPKR OP Haitelx (4'*' S. iv.
I beg again to notice this extraoroinary storv, '
elicit, if possible, a satiijfnctirtrv ^^Vnri-.t,
a commemorntion of aome i.
Was it a great f/unine ? Oow^j -
1753^ n, 308), writing in the year ItH^i, stiitMS titi
the inliabitants *^ date their*bilis and bonds an
other instruments in law, to this day, from
year r)f the goini; out of their childnsn/'
Beckford, in Vathek^ gives a somewhat simjJ
incident. An Indian^ renewing his loud sbouUj
laughter, and exhibiting horrid grimace**, is I
by V'athek, who repeated his blow with SQ
siduity as incited lul who were present t^) i
his example : —
" Every fool wjw np and Aimed at tl
sooner had any ^iveii him a kick tbi
constrained uI reiterate the stroke,
and plump, he r<illect«*i himself into
round on all jid(» tt the blows of hi
pr< ^Hnl after liiifl, whcrev^er be tarnpil, wjtli iin
Ueytjiid conception, whibt their numlxjr* w«
moititMit iiicrettsiot;. Tbe bjilU inUccd, in pruoii
one apartment to another, drew every perwa
tbnt rf»mf? in it** wny. Tho women of the ba
linoseorthfl UtlJ, t
. tn«v brcAc« tmm the i
tup tWr fll(;ht» plnobi
uU tbcy bied; but in vain; wblUt Iheaiativ^i,
i'kS.VlI, J*».28,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
85
tnmhltoir with terror at tlie escape of th«ir charge, w«no
Ai bcapabl^ of nsaitftiiig tlie Attf»ction/' 4rc. «tic.
1a this ftceoant a fiction of Beckford^s, or does
he obtniii it from anj older '^ Arabian tale " F
W. P,
FovvrxiSB OF QncKSn^vEB (2*»^ S. xii. 10S>,)
it would appear that this query ha^ never been
kit-- 1 t'\ I v^nrtiire after the lapse of nine years
i nee required.
lirer was aecarate. Gibbon, from
l-'unlontjtr, mhvs that —
'^ In * Ittfly p.i\ilinn Qf the garden ** [of Bagdad] ** one
i'f iht"^* b.i*«in itioft . . . , wiiB replenifthed, not
Willi nnlef, 1 purest quicksilver/' — IJiMt. nf
/Winr ,r ' .,.c lUmmn Empire^ vol. vi. p. Mi
(Mn' >*iias). Km/« aUo aotes to ftame pna-
Mr. Diameli, tu bis "wondrous tale " of Alrinf
(Warne*B ed. lH60, p. 65, and note 31)^ mentions
the eieinic mag^nifioence on the authority of GibbiiD,
S. R. Tow^sHESfD Mayer,
lEiehmond, S.VV.
'^PicncE TTiB Pu>UGHiCAKr*s Crede " (4*** S. L
•<, 44^, 4U0,)—
L , wfti good Y-now of gTOaad . grejn for to bcf«n,"
^^ 330.
H I OB inclined to take thia as refemni^ to a
^■URcnt proverb of the time. In hi.s noble defence
^Kfpoor Uichard 11m Thomas Morks, Bishop of
f* ' ' ^, with ail the epijrrammatic terseness
' It is a bad wrml that can take no
"- r's EecL Hid, nf Great Britain,
' ) So the better the wool, the
. I is capable of takingr.
if the poem of Pitrce the PloHghmafCn
von by I^Ir. Skeat (E. E, T. S.) na
. , a.d/" The deposition of Richard II*
i the year 13H0.
k of Bi?»hop Merka displays a courage
uteBS ao rare, that I eaunot forbear
If udiag it aa worthy of a perusal.
Edmuki> Tew, M.A.
i'^tLhin^ Rectory.
X lis (4*** S. iv. 272, 370.) — Your correspondent
. quotes from a poem published in 17tB to
i" thr^ period at which the word non^ waa
with the English language. Tbe
irom tbe Dunciad: —
♦' Ah think not, Tn1i?tTM?, more true dulIneM lies
In Folly*B cap or Wisdom's srrflvc »!if<»<ui>'e.
Ltkfl btiuys ihiit never ^ink into the dnmi.
Oil lesminK^a »nrface we but li*? ami norL
TblQ« it the jECf^naine head or many & hotiw
And Biiieh divinity witbont a vovt^
JcXtAJT SHAItlfAir.
rK» E^D " (4*'» S. vi. 340, 437, 519 ;
tii ,// bere I tdce to mean the remit; and
I T. I I iV!D Lyiteltok will admit that the
Ti\, .vi,.*l4 in any eense, good or bad, the
^%i, Aristotle pays it doea. In war defeat
Burely i« the wcrrd part of it— an md the bitterest
that could come. ** While there is life there is
hope.*' While the event ia pending the end may
be vIkv not T^wn?. There is room, at all events,
for hope. Edkcnd Tew, M.A,
Chowbeb (4'*' S. iv. passim; t, 1G3, 261 ; vi,
44*^.) — To support the derivation given of thia
word at the last reference, I beg to mention that
on the cabartti and guingvMtes of little tiabing
villages along the coast of Brittany ♦* id on fait /a
ehawii'^re^* is a frequent sign, Faire la chaudih^
ia to provide a cauldron in which is cooked a mesa
of fish and biscuit with some savoury condi-
ments — a " hodge-podge " contributed by the
tishennen themaelvee, who ouch in return receives
his share of the prepared dish. Now Canada waa
settled by the French, many of them from Brit-
tany, with Jacques Cartier, a Breton, at their head;
and it ia precisely from those states which hoti^
upon Canada that we derive both the word ch
dcr and the very palatable dish it designates.
A. J.
Folk Lore: Tbetu (4**» S. vi. 68, 131,
5t>0.) — Is it not likely that the **ring with
tooth in it," mentioned in the advertisement quoted
by E. C, may have been a relic of some saint ?
I have in mv cabinet a heavy silver ring of French
wc^rkmanship, and, I should think, of the early
part of the seventeenth century, in which is set a
tooth of apparently some condderable age. S.
Apollonia was specially invoked for the tooth-
acne, See Bishop Jewel's ^jpositian upon the
Seemtd E^nxUe to the Thessaloniims^ ii, 5), 10 : —
" Hereof it came to pA^ that each saint waa an^igned
ami allotted to hissandry charge and several <'fTiv nimrt :
S. Bla;^ for the choUiog, S. Roche for tlm^
Anthony tot the hurning, Valentine for the t
ues*, Komttne for m&dncfis, Apollonia for thu .-,.;;. ;c.iii,
PetrotiiUa fi>r agues, nod others for oilier purposes."
In the Roman calendar 8. Apollonia finds a
place on Februarv 0, and in Albau Butler's Lives
of the SmntM^ untler that date, I find it stated that
the heatben population of Alexandria, in the last
year of the reign of the Emperor Philip, attacked
the Christians rej^ident amongst them ; and that —
"The admtrahle A^^Uonio, whom old a^ and the stiite
of virj^nity rendered equally venerat»le, was seized by
them. Their repeated blows on her jawa tttat ont all her
teeth,"
Frequent allusions to the popular belief in the
virtue of the invocation of S. Apollonia will lie
found in the publications of the Parker Society,
Compare also tlie '* Fantassie of Id olatiie," printed
in Foxe'a Ads and MonumefUs, \\ 40(j, I8th edit
"To Saynt Syth for my piirso ;
Saynt Love ft*ue my horse ;
For my tethto Saynt Apolyue,"
Were the teeth of S. Apollonia ever wom 9M
relics or as charms against toothache ?
W. Sfaeeow SiKFSoir.
86
NOTES AND QUEEIKS.
[i*^ a vii. JjLx. «8.
htha I
rtflBtJl
TI. 11. H. THi; Duke of Kent rs Canada, ts
1701 (4*** S. T. Tii^S.y — Tlie following work nmy be
of service to Mr. Macdonali*. It was publiehed
a few mo nth 3 apro by Hunter, Eose ic Co., at
OttftWii nnd TomntOt^^vo, pp. 241, and may per-
hupa I>t3 found at Trubuer'.H^ 1:2, rateriioyterltow,
London ; —
**The Life of F. M. 11. R. H. Edward, Duko ©f Runt,
iJlualratod by hi» Corrcponjenoe witli tiie L>t' SnlalxTry
Familr, never lM'f*>rc puhti^hcd, exteniliDf; from 1701 to
1H14. By Dr. William JamM Anderson, L.K.C.S., Eiiin-
barffh, President of die (Quebec Littrary and Uistorical
Society."
A parflgrnph in the *' Introductory '' is as fol-
lows : —
** The Duke of Kent wag nn able and volaminous cor-
respondent, and frf.ni thi' euro vt'xth wlikh hu Icltcra have
been preserved he hat unt:on!'cion:i»Iy bccomtr his own
biiJ^apher^ but lUh hiiv^raphy has hitherto bovu cm\-
ttned to the limited circle.* of the ftimilicaor friends of hL*
eomftpondfint^, nnd the few of his letters wliieh have
been pn blithe! in his Life^ by the Rev. Erakino Neale,
hftve only excited a desire to see more."
I have never mot with Jlr* Neale's work. ^Ir,
Anderson do€s not elsewhere in Ms book r^fer to
it more particularly than in the above paragrnpli,
and it is not mentioned in either Watt'a B. B,
or Lowndes* Bibl, MmmaL
A<t the prince-duke arrived at Quebec in Au-
gust, 1791, in command of ibo 7th lloyal Fiisi-
leers; in 1704 (tsi^isted in the reduction of the
Frencli West Indies, and was then appointed
Commander of the Forces in Nova Scotia and
New Brunswick; and in May, 17D9, Commander-
in-Chief of the Forces in Briti.^h North America,
in which command lie continued until August,
1800,— Mn. Macdonald will probably liiid ^* the
full details'' he requires in the dulce's ofiicial
correspondence with the authorities at the Horae
Guards, vrhere I presume it ia still preserved,
Ville-Marie, Canada. Ebic.
iHt^»nanr0Uisr«
NOTES ON B00E8, ETC.
Tlit Work* of Ahxandfr Popt. New Edition^ includin*}
aeverat hundrrd uftpubiisheit iMttrs and other Nrw jVti-
tfriaU^ cfylkcted in part hy the fate Ri;;bt lion. John
Wibon Croker, Hith Intr^nittrtioH and Xate* htj the
Rev, WhitweM Elwin. l\tt. IL Fottry. With Purlraiti
and Either ftitutratimit. { M nrra v.)
If tL<? admirers of Pope have had their patience iM»rply
tried while wAitin^ for thia loQiC-promised erJiiion of hii
workrt, few of them Uut will confers that that patietsce
haa at leni^th lu rt^WEird in a cullectiLm of the poet's
writings, vrhieh promisca to leave little s<:ope for the
labonra of future commentHtors or future editors. Tbia
new Tohime contains tlie " Es^ay on Crjtici?»m " followed
bv "Warburt on' s Commentary and Notes," **TheRap«
of the Lock " followed by the ''Fir.^t Ed Jtion ** of it ; « The
Elcjrv to thfl Memory of an Unfortunate Ladv ; " ** Ebisa
to Abclard ; " the ** Es^say on Man ;" and " I'he Universal
Prayer,^ the two latter being accompanied by Warburton's
Commentary and Xotes, While, in the illnstratiou of each
of these poemif Mr. El win had availed himself freely and
judiciously of the labours of preceding editor*. h<» has
wiUi greiit advantage to the »tudenu of Pope, hrxpUKtif
his own critical poweni to bear as much upon th^i^ jtid^<
menu a^ upon the Poet** writings; so that liia comuienn
on the eommentiitoni arw far from the lea^t in«tnictira'
portion of the volume. And thhis saying much for a. book
which containji m many cvid'-nceH of the pain)^ which tha
late Mr, Croker iwjjtowed in Hearing up jmd illustratiai
passages which change of times and mannen^ have r
dered obscure, and which could only bo eacplained
cnie th[>roui;hIy fiiiniliar with ihe literature of the
Any of our render.^ who reracmbpr how uiu'^h haa been
written in the attempt to identify the " Unfortunate
Lady." who wew the subject of Pope's elesy, will be
(Treatly amti^ied with Mr. Elwin's intrndurtion to that
poem, in whit-h, follnwini; up a hint first thrown out we
Delic%'e hy Mr. Dilke^ he .^hows fIip was altupfther eo
imapnar>* pf*r^onaj;ej and they will l*eas greatly plwaed
with the s>ounrl nnd vi^jforous critlcisTn in which he haa
ex posted tbo many f:ilje priaciplea enunciated ia it bjPj
Pope,
Sflrct Lettrrx of PUntf fhc Vounff^r. Latin Tfxt^ mi
English Xiitpn. Edited htf A. j! t hnrch, M.A. of LiQ^j
ctjln Collcs;e, Oxford, and Head Master of the RovaT
Grammar Scbtml of Kinif.lajiifts I., Henley- rm-Th»mo
and W. J. Brodribb, JLA., late Fellow 'of St. John'l
College, Cambridt»e. (Lot!;;uijns.)
ThM is a Selection, aaionntin;^ to nltout twivnflbj^c
the Kpistlea of Pliny the Youu^ijeir, and arraucod in ibi
present form with a view to makin^r them ii:oro
sibic to classical ?tadonta. The comparatiri? oUiri
into whit'ih thcflie tettors have fallen i«t the mrtrc i
con«idcrinf^ that sametime.fl Pliny supplies mi^^sin
in th« history of hi^ friend Tacitus. Should Ihi^^ oft
be removed, no small credit will be dtie to the editors c
this volame, who, in order that it may serve as a cii
book for tbo upper forms of achoola, furiiii^h each teiti
with an nnnlysis and point out «uch word.'* and phraa
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gmundi : firctt, for the amount of amusing infonrutu
connected with the Drama which it contains; secoodlj^
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LOJrj>CS^ SATVRDAT^ FEBRUART 4, 1871.
CONTENTS.— K« 162,
►Q« 4I» Modern U«e of the Word " A.rt," 89 -
r JaavrB&rl or Gl^ncsirn to Jofnn YI.. Nsreh 4^
• StoiTunfthin' art. I Atn-^riciti Fflk Ij^jt*o, 9t *—
' — Anti-
i^t -
.\ ' „ : . -<iiip«rati-
— Fbotogrftpoy : the Wm *nci
t^ — McdtiPTftI Batub — Lpjpend
Walk -British Scythwl Chi^riota:
111! of Dnis«8» Hti, '" J.*
•Kojr**— Tho K. I .11
. - Wife ofOeofg
mi Belli— T1.
Jft»* Markh
ni*Biit^Kjiip1ia !m>ck;i.7 of BoAton^— »Tbc Jtutinru of
iba HoHb«ni Oouotl^— "The Hnrta of Men which
Me, — Qiwt^^mi wmnt«d ^8t. Jcwej>ti't Eire —
8t»ri: ■■ ' rjf 8o<foTftnd Mnn — -ThoiighU
rMrl«til9 iiea Whitille." Ac. by " R. U." —
Bftuu >oiri— Thomson a Drqiil —The
f Xerxes —
fina«f :
tjovcraiiwnfc ilt&mp oo Picture Oiwa-
It— A Rectornhip of Eii^bty-oDc Yi^nn. »7— *• Some
|s to Church/* Ac. : Old Rhjme«,ttO~OrdeM of KmRht-
Md, lOa— Harbtroui BfaMacre. lOl—Kifig WillUin lU/s
Mmmt and other Relics ni CrtrnrkWarkir. ro. Artniiiek,
Utt'OM StJidown Ca^n rv
— Go«» In Swift— Drsc. i"
M a LtMttl Prprli— Ridlian . <H-
117T — f^t — M.arni\|ir*» of Iul4.,;tH- niUut^Dts
— BiMnI or ShHni — i*iirv»li«i!4— Th" "-Ing"
!b Hoflh-Kngliah Placf-Nanjcs— *' H . uicm wna
Mi lirv " — Aaron HomUtf, Ao« 103«
]E0liB OD Btookiw An.
COT THE MODERN USE OF THE WORD "ART,"
Witlkm the mem 017 of the present generation
*^ spolAr iwe of tbe word nrt has grentlj in-
if while ltd popular gignificatioa ha^ oeen
modified. It in indeed Dot uncommon to
BMt with fairlj well-in formed Qien who would
i^j its appropriat^ne»9 when they ht*ar it ap-
pHed to certain pursuita and etudiesi which from
iinmeini>nai have been classed among the
I Tenture to aak for space in " N. & Q/' for
r.«. -'.-ii^jta QQ thi^q Bubject, in the hope
y elicit replies and auggeationa &oni
word an, genitive fzr/i>, whence nrt
airrniGed with the liomana acquired
.i^ntal or manual. Hence art,
fin notione, waa both theoretieai
^tj'i jirMiLLn:.'iU and the arta either liberal or il-
l.ltnil. A maater of the liberal arts — a ties Uherahn
or imgmkum' — was termed artifej; while one who
liboiKdl wiUi hia handa at the ilUberal arts — €trt4!$
arMcp — wna termed f/pift\.i\ This distinction re-
lawna in oilt own language, as artvft and arttmn^
or miid and crnfUmatK
Among the various taiRy liberal and illiberal^
Bttaad W Kftman outhora, we meet with ars
tntdh^ rndorica^ ffrnmnmiif^aj mtmcn^ mechanicttj
fMlktmaticitf ffymnai<tknf imjuratonaf manuantif
In the Middle Ages, seven liberal arta were
studied, divided into the THvmm^ which com-
prised grammar, lo^ric and rheloriCi and the Quad*
rimum^ which comprised music, arithmetic, ^eo^ 1
metry, and aatronomj. The university degree of j
magufter aritum implied a command of tbe
liberal arte. They are constantly referred to
early writers^ ®- g^ ♦ DiaJoffm in defensioiiem aepien^l
Artmm Hheralium^ by Th. Crresmond, 14M7. T
The term '' art "waa widely used in the clflasical
senae by early writers; thujj the Art Magna of
Jerome Cardan, published in lij45, is a treatise
on algebra. Erasmus published in 15^0 a trans-
lation of Galen's Exhoi-tatio ad bonm AHeA prtB-^
Bfiriim Medicntanu So alao we meet with tSt/ntnxis
AHU MirMlU, 1581, Ih ArU Occuiia, 1012, 0/
Cert ay ne SinUiral anil Uiirlvnh AHeif, 15G1,
Many of the arts above named would at the
present day be rather termed eciences. The dia* «
tine lion between art and science is well expreased ^
by Dr, Wbewell in hia Htsiory of the Jnduotivm
Sciences 1 — »
"The object of art ii work, the solution of some pfo-
hlom, the production of some visible n^nlt. The object'
of aeienoe u kuowltMjge. Ileace in an, tho«t;h know-
ledge is luefuU it is u»<et'sjl aa a uieAiis to au cod. But ixt
scieDco it la itself the end/'
Archbishop AVhately, in the introduction to his
l^lements of Logic^ says :—
'*It is to be remembered, that as a science is con-
Yorsani aboat spocuktivo knowlcd^ Qtily» and art is the
Bppljcation of knowle<lgG to practice?, henee lo^ic (aa well
as any other system of kuo>vIed^>) becomes, ivheti applied
to pructicef an art ; while eondued to iht theory of reason-
iag, it Liatriiitly a science."
The terms " fine ort^/' ^' polite nrt^ '* appear
to have como Into vogue about the middle of tho
last century. In the opening address of 8ir Joshua
Reynolds to the Koyal Academy on January 2,
17(30, ho says: "An academy in which the
polite arts may be regularly cultivated h at last
opened among us by royal mmiificence/'
From this date onwards numerous works on ths
fine arts appeared f thus — in 1762 Valmiine Greef^
published —
'' A He view of the PoIUo A rt9 in F^anoe at ttui Time of
their £j!iUbliBhfnent undirr Louis XIV« compared ivitll
their present Stat*? in England*"
Thomas ICobertsau's " Inq^uiry Into the Fine Arts.''
1785*
Settlcy*9 ** Concise Analysis of the BeHca Lettrcs^ the
Fine Arts, and the Sciences." 1788,
BromU'y*b well-known *' History of tho Fine ArCi^
Painting, St'ulptnreT and Architecture.'' WM,
As compared with these, let ua take two worka
issued respectively in 1705 and 1767 :—
Harris, Jus. (Author of Ilermef), "Three Treatises.
1, Art; 2. MuAic, raintinK* Poetr> ; 3. llappJne**."
DufT, Kev. VV\, •* Au Kw.iy on Original UcniuJi afltt '
its various Modes of Exertion m PUU<;sophy and the
Fine ArtA, particularly in Poetry/*
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[-t^&Vli. Fkb.4,'7
I
Here lb© limit&tian of ih© Uxms *' art " and
^•fiiie art*' is not so definite as in ibe other
worka itsued after 1700.
Hazlitt, in the article " Art*,** oontribuled Ijy
liim to the Encyclopaedia JirUannica early in the
preaent centuryi lajs : —
** Thi term Jim arts nuy b« vitired as embncing all
tbeat Ifti in it bicb the powers of iioiUtion or mv«ntioa
aia astiicdt chiefly with a riew to the prodocdoa of
pliaaaie bj the immediiite impraBion which they make
oo the mitKL Bat the phraae has of Ute, we think, been
r&Binci«d to a narrower and men tectaoical Btgnilicatiofi,
namely to paint ing^, tculpCiiiep engraTiag and architeo-
tare, which appeal to the ey« aa the medlom of pleasure,
and by iray oif eminence to the fint two of these aita,*'
May it not be aasumed that, the rejlriction
wliich Hazlitt noticea waa due to the induenc© of
the Itoyal Academy of Arta ? In the present day
the preralence of Art Exhibitions, Art Schools,
Art Muaeums, et hoc fferiiu omne^ has familiarised
the public ear with the word used in this reetricted
senje, and hns at the same time led the unin-
itructed and the utireUectinpr to suppose thut art is
aomething apart not only from the ortUan or the
artificer, but liUo from the master of arta *, and
til at it flhould be conlined solely to the artifit and
bia works, A. C. K.
LETTER OF JAMES EARL OF GLENCAIRN TO
JAMES VL. MAKCII 4, 1607.
The original letter is aniongat the Taliiable
papers belonging to the Faculty of Advocates,
which had been purchased from' the representa-
tives of Sir James Balfour, the Lord Lvon, to-
wards the end of the century before livst. \i refers
to the existing feud between the noble families of
Cunningham and Mnntgomery» which* like the
Corwican ** Vtndetta," had subsitited for a long
pi'rind.
These two famiHei, after the fashion of the
Cftnuleta and Montagui'8, being bitter enemies,
tooK occasion to injure each other when a titting
occasion occurred^ At last matters came tn a
cri»ia by the murder committed by the Cuniog-
hamea of Kobortland, Cofsebill, anci others of the
clan, upon Hugh fourth Earl of P^gHnton, of the
name of Montgomery (for the later eark are Se-
tons). His lordship was riding from hia own
liouad upon April 15, 15$G, when he was basely
SBflttfliinated by these unscrupulous dependents of
the house of Glencairn*
• *♦ It is for the first time, 1 beliew, in the annala of
your Piiircrsity thut the line afIh will have rccci%'ed that
ootiaiderAtiou which I bdievc to be tiidi- Auv: — a con-
aider At ion whiuli may, I ho|)^, in time n-move the rc-
pfl>ach that our Ifadin^ univunUJen confer degrees aa
maMerfi of arts upon f^tndonts from whoic oourMt of
study ahnosi stl reference to the fine arta baa been^ Sfl tt
were, aotlulously otpung^tL'* — Sir Digby Wyatt'i JUc-
IttTN OA FiH€ Arit dttittrtdat Qtmbridgt,
Years elapsed, oocaaioiied by the trouble
tiroes which followed the acceauon of Jam^
to Uie Scotish diadem. So that it was not until
James bad been c^oietly placed on tlie English
tbrone that he ventured to interlere between the
two powerful families. Whaterer may baT« been
the monarche demerits, and they were not a few,
he never omitted any opportunity which presented
itself of mitigating the mischiefs his original un-
certain tenure of power had produced. Ilia mar
jesty, throuch hia privy councdly and especially
with the aid of his great favoimte the Earl
Dunbar^ contrived to patch up matters bet
the rival noblemen \ and it is to this aettlemi
that the present letter — remarkable for the
nesa of the spelling, as well aa its singular
ology — refers.
The earldom of Glencaim was originally a
creation of James IIL — a ruler who has met with
little justice from the chronicleTS of his time. He
was an accomplished man, fond of architectmc^
delighting in mu^ic, and a patron of the fine artsL
Hence his semi-barbarou3 nobles first despised
and then rebelled against him. He was, after hb
defeat at what is called the Battle of Sauchi^
Bum, assassinated in the village of Sauchie by
some unknown per<iou« The house waa iu ex^
istenco some years since. The honours
by him on his adherents were rescinded.
these was the earldom of Glencaim^ which wa*
subsequpntly revived in the person of Cuthbert
I>ord Kilinaurs, his grandson.
"Pleissk yown moist Sacreid Mairstik, Aeeordv
to yowr IktAie^teis conitnand, 1 submittiit the pa
bluidis and contrawerM'ii! standiag betwix the
Mon;;owmer»'j, me, and my name* to w*ike freindia
WAA scho.««iu befoir yowr MniesteiB consaill and
appoyntitt be the con^taiU, to coawece befuir
Cfxet'iitt the sameHf qhllke day we haif all kdpitt, and
the Jtigift exceptitr, and ower clames on ather ayid was
gif?n in: tlien re^ltt tliv i^ommoneris to agre oa the
owcrisinan* quhilke thay wnld nocbt do, and swa it 9
t! urn men in yowr M/iiestels haiuli^ qubolroT I am raatst
j^lttvd, ewer expecting yowr Maiesteis moi<it gralio^
/"awour to me and ntynei quha he^i and sail ewer ea
maist «erwyabill harti* aa we salbe commandirt. Gil
thair sail cummc any rcportis of roe to yowr Majeatie, I
am sertane, according; to yowr Maiest'eia wtintilt and
moi&t gratioWi$e custowmc/ I wilbe callkt to my awia
accont, I dowt noclit bott yowr moii^t Sacreid Haiestie
will twa settill thntt tiirne, oa heirefter thay be na
cawisae of gnige on athcr frvd, and that cweriixe aae «C
wa may joisae owcr awin kyndlio rowmej and po»s^
aiowntji to all tymes cuinun: tii;r. Tbb ercctiowne of ilie
Abeseej of Kilwynting, qiihiiko m}' lord of Eglingtowne
menis to Btiite att vowr Maiejstie, will nocht falQ to ia-
tertenej the stid of trubiil aman^ii ws, for we wilbe
interest thairby, aod I protest befoir yowr Mai«ati»»
ha id rather loiswc my lyf or ony occatiowne war jgSfin '
me to breke that wnitej quhiike yowr Uaiestej will or
mancL I man crawo yowr Maiewteb hnnibiU pardowoe
fur thi-» my faseheow»e letlir and ewill wrjtt. Ily moii
humbill »erwice pre^ntitt to yowr moist Sacreid Makatii
* See Balfotu-^a Annat$^ IL 19.
i*aVUFEii.'l,'7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
I pny the Lord to gif yoor Maientie gud hail the, Ung
1^, with line proMttperowae rrng, in tho fcir of the Lord^
§wm I re0t«
ToQr Mftiieat«i9 maist hum bill nnU
ohedyent ttibiectt, <»wor redcj to b« com-
muDditt with ali humbill serwice,
•* EdinhuiT^h, th<j Totirtt
of Merdie, 1607.
** To lUa mubt Sacred Majestv/*
J, M.
STAFFORDSHIRE AND AMERICAN FOLK LORE
I fteofl you a collection of folk lore, which 1
foim-Ll inserted as margiQal notes in an edition of
^ vorkg purchased bj me from the writer,
a hire man, who informed me that tboy
wtrt? dictated hj an aunt of his, n native of
SmetliwicV, StafTurdahire, who was living in 1^55,
but r^ty ajxed. Should you think them wortfij^ a
pUcid in '' N. »S; Q.,'' you will oblige by inaertmg
theoi.
T4I cur^ ChiM'Cough, — Take out the child » and kt it
look at the nciv^ moon ; lift op its clothes, and rub ytiur
iig^ht hiud up an I down ita Pitomach, ancS repeat the
lul<>wiiig linrA {looking steadfa.nty at the moon, and
Mung al the same time) : —
** What I a«e may it increase,
What 1 feel may it decreaae ;
la ihf nnme of the Father, Son, And Holy Ghost,
Araeo/*
Wlica you have yoor haircut, be sure to bum the hair
nldeh is cut off; for if you throw it out of doore, and
'^^t take U Into their holes, you irill ha^e a perpetual
n fro£*f I if ynu do, you will have a sin grow
w — If yon kill a black beetle, you will canae
i- - - - — r, anrl you will be itryick by lightning.
Amthfr (tin fur Chi n^couffh.— 'Find a briar growing in
tb« j^Touuil at both emls; pa^a the child under and over
it aka«» titncs for three momiaga before the sun ri^es,
ii^tttiii^ each time —
•• Under the briar, and over the briar,
I wiah to leave the chin-cough h«rc/'
TW briar maat then be cut, and made into a Amall crosSf
•nd W9m mi the child's breaat,
^^" ' • "' "'' " "-^ his cloven foot upon blackbcrriet
f ii Sept. ; therefore after tliat day
f'A daring the remaiuder of the
^ Hftp alwara appear Above ground on Old Chrlstmaa
- s^it down on their knees at 12 o'clock on Old
r^'ht.
It uin you fcc a rainbow, tako two straws, cross them,
F*tcttb«n oa the ground, and the rainbow will instantly
A Mack eat coming accidentally into a house and re-
otitajng there, U considered a sign of good luck.
*M €rst time you see the new moon, after it ho^s
'*«*?e"1^ ftirn rnttf mnnry in your pocket for good luck f
111 it will snrelv happen. Tosco
r he branches of trees, for the first
-,....... ,.. . unlucky.
to tee one magpie alone ta al^o veiy unlucky.
When you hear a dog howl, take off your left shoe and
spit upon'the 6o1e, place it on the ground txittom upwardf,
and ytrnr foot upon the place you spat on ; which will pre-
serve you from harm, and stop the howling of the dog.
Gathering Fem-aetd.-^OD. Midsummer ni^ht at 12
o'clock go where the fern grows, draw a circle round yoo,
inscribe the twelve signs of the Zodiac, place twelve
pewter pldtes under the fern one wUhin the other, and
repeat the following —
"In the holy name of Jc^qs may I be freed
From every hiinu, whilst gathering fern seed.*'
After repeating: this be sure you speak not^ or come out
of the circle before 1 o'clock; the seed will drop through
eleven of the plate*, but the twelfth will catch it. Let no
person attempt to gather it, for terrible will be the eon-
sequences of a failure.*
In the village of Smethwick, Staffordshire, It ia cus*
tomary with boys, promising anything to each other, to
repeat the following (drat making the sign of the crosa
on their throat) : —
'* Hangy Bangy, cut my throat, ~
At to o'clock at ntght ;
Hnng me up, hang me down,
Hang mc all aboui the town.'*
Believing, if they do not perform according to promise,
the spirit invoked will certainly appear and cut their
throats.
My sister r«nya the writer of these notes^ was curefT of
a wen, by rubbing tt with a man's hand who had hanged
himself.
To cure the Mump§. — ^Lead the pereon afflicted three ?
timns round a spring of water before sunriae. The persoa
must l>e blindfolded.
To ture JVartg, — Rub them over with a dead m«n>
hand ; or steal a piece of beef, rub them with it, and then
burn the beef; or rub them with a black snail, and then
hang the snail on a blackthorn bush; or rub them, night
and morning, with faating spittle ^ or rub them with the
tail of a tortoiseshell Tom cat in May.
A dead persoo'3 toc5th, carried in the pocket, cures the
tooth -ache. It must be a woman's tooth for a man, and
vice verta for a woman.
During a St of the ague, pass your urine Jdto a bottle,,
cork it up, take it to a river or pool, turn your back to the
water, and throw the bottle over your head into the
water, eaclaiminj^: "Ague, ague, Uiou hast tormented
mc, and now I'll drown thee ! " Walk away without
looking behind you, and the ague is cured.
A small bone out of a sheep's head, carried in the
pocket, curci! the tooth-ache : it must be taken from the
right side for a man, and the left for a woman.
To stop bleeding at the nose, put a white stone or a kej
down the back.
Wiichcrajt, — Go to a moontain-ash before the sun
rl*e«, and cut therefrom three twigs; be careful they do
not touch the ground ; take them borne, and make thri?e
small cro3se>j of Ibem ; tie with white worsted, and^ plac»
one fiver the door, one under the door, and one in the
bosom of the person bewitched.
♦ In ManreU's poem of Ihphni$ and Chhe (versa 21 J,
we read —
^_. "Or the witch that midnight wakes,
For the fern, whow magic weed
In one moment casts the seed, ~
And invisiWe him maiw****
NOTES AND QUERIES.
li^ S. TU. Fi
Ameeicaj* Folk Lobf«— In Peunsjlvanifi, U. S.
America, it is beliered tkat, if you da not kill
the fijst black snalw you eee, you wilL have bad
luck the remainder of the year.
In Virginia it is belieyed thut, if you kill a
black 8Dake and banpf it on ft Persimmon tree
(Divipt/ros Virffinica)f it causes it to rain*
I copy the following from a Da?enport (Iowa)
paper. The writer saya : —
*' Chatting with an ag«d ladr, w« noticed the tronder-
fttl pfcaervatioa and beauty of her tectli, and could not
leirvdn firom tnentioaing it * Te-*,' said she, * I never had
a toothache or lo3t a tm?th, because I bit the snake/ On
inouiry fthe atat«d that, when children at homo, their
fatWhnd made thera bite a rattlesnake, be holtling the
reptile ly the head and tflit j each child bit along the
entire length of the backbone, not violently, but jiwt so
ta to indent tbe flkin ; and thi> waa oonsidered an infal-
lible recipe &gA\mt toothache and decay, and which the
old lady believes in up to the present hoar."
Geo. Woblet,
rhUadelphin, Fcimsylrimia, U. 3. America,
TYNWALD eiLL, ISLE OF MAS.
J. Ck. R. ill '* N. & Q." (4^1 S. Ti. 480) givet
a brief, but intere&iiug*^ description of this his-
torical witness^ which linbj the paat with the
present by the twofold prooiulgatioii of laws
insularly eatabliahed, J. Ok, R. writes: —
*" The most p<?rfe<'t specimen of this ["=law mount] i*
tliat in the Isle of Man called TynHmld-hill, situated
about two miles froni i*eelp so named from the Nor^
T^tVij?, pronounced ting (fronji (Ud Norse thm^t to dia-
Qourse or deliberate upon), and caid, a bank or mound."
'* Thia monnd, which is still In use, 'oonaiats of four
circular terraces, or platfarass, e*cb suecesslvely Hain^
above the other, and diminishing io breadth. Tlic'breadth
of the lowest terrace is eight fe«t ; the second six feet ;
the third four feet ; and the fourth and la5t, forming the
apex, six fefL Each terrace is three feet hi^h; the total
height of the hill ta twelve, and its circumference at the
base two hundred and forty feet. The aocent ia by a
flight of stepa cut on the eastern aide from the base to the
summit/ "
In Cregeen'a Mimks Dictimim-y I find the fol-
lowing statement : —
" CnowK-KEEirxOwx = John's Church-hill, or the hill
of Johti^a Church, called also TynwaJd Hill, ia (iiiuale
about three miles from Peel, in the pari^jh of German, on
the main road to D<jUf;Ia5» No doubt but the Litter part
of this word ift a corruption of Ean or Yuan (Jtihn),
This is iht hili or mount on which the eonstituted an-
tlioritiea promulgate all their Statute Laws» in Manka
and English, to the people."
In th^ q^uotAtion bv J. Ck, U. the diatance from
Peel ia «aid to be about two niilca. By Cregeeu
it ia stated to be about fhnc mil eg. In excavating
for a buried monument^ or ruiii, an error of a
mile might prove seriously and vexatioualy ineon-
venient. It might also now be well to ascertmn
and record the number of Btepa, and tlio circum-
ference of each terrace.
My chief object in thia communication, how-
a^^
tiires
erer, is ta note that, 1:2 the height, 4 the numl
of terraoea, 3 the height of each ascent, 8. C, 4^
the resDectivo widths of the terraces ; d - 4 (
first and third =sC-i-0 the fiecood and fourth — i
all factors of 240, the circumference, which is in
proportion to 300, the great circle, as 2 is to 3i
that as 3G0 : 240 :: 3 : 2; — Bo the heig
12x2-*-3 = 8, the first width; and the heig
0 X 2 -♦• 3 = 6, the second^width ; end the hei|
0x2-4-3 = 4, the third width ; and the b( '
3x2 = 6, the fourth width. That there
ascents, because four units compose the
four weeks the month, four reasons the
four quarters the circle, and four ^ E.N.W,S*
three feet ifl their eq^ual ascent, because
unit* compose the equilateral triangle, three sidea
= any triangle, three = trinity generally. Tf
the product of the triangle and square, 3x4= ^
the duodecimal numljer, aud the first two digil
1, 2, which, added to the digits 3,4-10^
decimal number; and by irsimple addition
digits (1, 2, 3, 4,) 5, G, 7, 8, 9, (0), result. Tl
the ascent ia hy steps on the eastern side, becni
the sun rises m the east; that the height is
because there aje twelve signs in the z( *
twelve divisions of the great circle, twelve mooi
in the j-eor, and that, as the sun in his zenil
always indicates noon-day or twelve, so the sui
mit of the hip is duodecimal or twelve ; l'
the sum of the units of the triangle and squi
3 + 4 = 7, the days of the week, and the extr^
dinary aeptiliteril number ; that the aides of
simplest right-angled triangle are 3, 4, 5 =s 13,
sum, and = 00, the product — of Buch gea^
Application in astronomical^ geographical^
temporal computatioiui.
All the precddiog and other lessons are
tained and may be read in and learned from
construction of Tynwald Hill, when perused
any one capable of reading that symbolical
aright.
Thus this mount or hill is evidentlv a ti
symbolical book for the initiated to re^ul, and
inquirers to decipher. And as the sua, in
ning his circuit, illuminates the face and ridai
goverDs the order of nature, so the promi '
of laws, by ascending to the summit of the nioui
tends to the enlightenment and good govei
of society, which would be olherwiae chaodc
uncivilUed, were it not for the induence of i
enlightening ruler or an enlightened lawgiver*
And for further infonnatiou, I should now Ul
some correi^pondent to state whether the fact
Tynwald Hill, and Cronk-Keeillown or Jok
Church Hill, being interchangeable d(
is accidental, intentional, or fivmbolical
Spittlegate, Grantham.
4*S.V«. Fm,4, 7K]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Loap pLKnncrr.— la U» raritw of Mr* O^Flana-
pm*B Limt ^ the L&rd ChametMars of Ireimtd in
IM ntw ii«imb«r of ^ Qmrn-terh/ Iteview, the
rmcver ft«r^ in his notice of Lord Plunkett —
♦*Tlie inost c.;!ebraled of bis ttnafj^Ji is thM of Time
villi ilic bour-glfi^ BUil the «<;ytlic, which he employed
to l&Mtt«i« tile effect of the Suiule of Limitations."
T. t^T Bn.ndmm givea tlie passage in question
h' w«jrds : —
^ovthe In hli bftod is ctct mowing
tl of titloi; wherefore thcwij^wloni of tlio
h other hftud ftti hour-glA«!i* by which
^ m-vp^ fiiii uMi jiericMla of poMeMion that fthatl sapiily
lyplMH «€ tli« nmunnili hia s^tbe Iim destroy^"
Lord Brotifliam f^fers to thb pftHsng^e more than
IBfei *lrf Always with unbouinied coumiendation.
Il U IH> dcmhi rery fine and rery striking, but it h
% }m regretted thut it is pure nonsense ; and it is
bejond mes«im; etnin^e that its absurdity should
Bot bafc been *iOt:u by its learned utterer, Lord
MitakirttY or by eUher of its admiring- critica,
I^iri BfVH^lMun or the Qtuirterli/ reriewen I tind
Ifcf inntt^r noticed in the following terms in a
F d for private circulation : —
ni*:t< iii;i out ihsi {>criod9 of poinesBioa
- ' lie place of the maai-
f' ' xd, but ju4t the con-
ii»ft — turn i«s. to |>r.»ic< I unmui in possesalon Against
mnaiiiienis mhvih the *cythir haa failed to destfoy."
It it^pesn to m**' that it i? time that this
liaddd illustration should be rated at its true
While the question is before me, I may
that there is a passage at p. 182 which will
|Sf» Bnmo sorpride to Eng-iish la wy el's. The re-
Jtew«> jpeakiog of Lord Thurlow and Lord
Rsre^saya: —
" Viilhcr Um K^iglith aor Uie Irii»h chaiic«nor poa-
**i^ tbe r»q«i/6d aiicioant of leftriiiDic or priMrtical know-
MfB, Uvn ut Thurlow'a decrees we» diawa op by
Otipava.**
Lor'
l«wy<:
spealdog of L^rd Thurlow a« a
5pQke of him as ♦' that prodigious
C. H. C.
Ajmatmr of Ladies* CniGaroKs. — It may be
ly leadera to know
r who lived in the
111 era, and that he
^ DreanUj in which
of his day ae
: same expedi-
^'td in this day for
oUditynnd beauty.
' J .itff not m enmj of Arlcmidonui, nor could I
fC«cas9 oiM ia tli£i iM^dett French Ttlle, md oo
IL
cannot verify the accuracy of the quotation ; but
I ^ve it as I find it in a modern Gerniau tut^UMri
Dr. PfaSe^ who, at tht' »ame time, notiHea kit
abhorrence of chi^tons in these terms: —
"* And so, it seems, this ftt>onihiftble praatfca w«a in
fashiun Amongst lh< ancientA ! Dieto ah«cb«u]i«hft SitlQ
sdieint also achon in AUcrthume gewesea tu 9oiu ! "
The chifffian of the second century, it roust be
(Ldmitted, was not so monstrous as the pyramidical
head-dresses of the Ikmian matrons of tlie first cen-
tury^ of whom it is said by Juvenal {Sttt, vi. 500-
fiO^)» that a lady hi« her head piled up mto m
many folds and stories in height, that when ahe
faces you she looks aa tall and stately as a tragedy-
queen, and when she turns her bade she Beeois to
ht> m diminutive as to be somebody else (
"Tot pr«mit ordiiiibii-s tot adhue *»ompiigibij8 altiua
yKditicnt caput : Amlromachtin k fmrite vidi-^Ub,
Post minor est : creda* aliom,*'
VV. B. Mao Cabe.
Moncootoar*de*Bfeta^e, Cote* du Mord* iraace.
CoTXcrnBXCE of THorGnT.^Dr. J<ihnsorj has
said that '* no one does anything for the (ml time
(knowingly) but with regret'*
I met recently with this passage in Bishop
Hall's J/fo/y Oh^enxdwm, ixvii, :
*» Nothing is more absurd thou that Epicurean resola-
tion, * Let ufl cat and drink^ to-mnrrow we die ;" as if wo
were mado only for the paunch* and livod thnt wo niight
livo; ytt ha» there never any naturai man found Mvnur
in that mmU vAfcA he hmtw ihould fm hh Uimi ; whftn>ai
thev aboold lay ; Let us tut and pray, for to-taorrow we
flhidl diC &0.
J. A. a
Cansbrooke.
The SiSAiost Gatr ajtd Nabuow Wit. —
M«tth€w vii. \\. ** Straight w th« gate, and narrow \i
th« wav. which leadcth uato life, and few tlierc be that
find it/'
Compare with these words of onr Bleoed Lord
«ome singularly like, uttered by Keb^j upwards
of four hundred years before ; —
OIkhw fcol ^^pov Tiva. iiiKph^^ Ktol hZSp rtV9. Wfh rijf
rm; , . , At^ij roivrii^ iariv rj 6Uif tfyj, *) Ayowa
*' Do you not Aee a small ^at*, and a way up to it bat
little frequented, and on which few tra veil en appear?
. . . , This, aaid he, is the way which katleth to tnus
disdpliiie*'
Keb^ was a Tbeban philosopher^ and a disciple
of Socrates, whom he attended in his laat mo-
ments. He wrote three treatises, less known than
they deserve to be. Of these the most celebrated
b the ni'KAH, "containing a beautiful and aifect-
ing picture of human life. He flourished about
Bx. 410. EnMxnc© Tew, M*A*
KiJCTTKE SrFEBSTiTT05a. — I gather the foUow*
mg itom a ffktoty ^f JKalyrr, by Feter M'ljit'>sh
(Campbeltown, 1670) : —
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4»»» S. VJL Fitt. 4, 7t
Old Jolin M'Tiiggart was a trader between
Kvntyre fttid Ireland. Wishing to get b fair mud
to wuft His bark acro6^ to the emerald isle^ he
applied to an old womau wlio was said to be able
to give this. lie received from her two atiinga,
on each being three knots. He undid the first
knot, and there blew a fine breeze. On openinj^
the isecond, the breeze became a g»Ue, On nearing
the Irish ah ore he loosed the third, and such a
burricane arose that some of the houses on shore
were deatrojed. On coming back to IGntyre, he
was careful to unloose only two knots on the
remaining string.
** On tb« ialmnd of Gipha li a well with some Btonw in
it ; and it in anid tlidt it the atones be taken out of it a
great storm will ariscC*
D. Macphail.
Thbead BxrrroNS.— The making of thread bufc-
toos» which was once a flonrisbing trade in Dorset*
fihire, has now almost ceased to be. It occnra to
me that before it tinaOy departa it may be as well
to record its nomenclature* The more common
BOrts of buttons were JavUf shitig^ spnmylep^ and
mitefi. In Mr. Barnes's Glossaiy^ j ams (the largest
size) are noticed, but not the pretty little spranglea
and mites, which are far too delicate a manufac-
ture to be superseded without regret
C, W. Binge AM.
CuBTOira EpiiAFff,— 'In the last century opera-
tive surgery does not appear to have been confined
to the regular surgeons ; for in the beautiful little
church of Stoke Holy Cross , near Korwichp is a
mural monument to a clergyman who died in
1719, and is represented, in an inscription (sur-
Touaded by deaigns of \arious surgical instru-
ments) as having been distinguished for his abilities
in theology, physic, surgery, and lithotomy : -^
**" Memariw Sacrum Thonut Haver*, clerici» qui Theo-
lo^o, Medidaa, Cbirurgia tti Lytbotomia, doctua fuit et
cxp€rtaa : Erga Denm PJa^, ErgA ilomiaea Justus : pau-
pcri^us et iD^otis semper muucus. Obiit 27* die Junii,
A« Diimijij 1719, leUtb auiw 60."
1 am tempted to give j^ou another very short,
but ^erj beautiful, epitaph from the same
churcb : —
** In the womb of tbis toml* twin a in expectation lay,
To be bom In the mom of the Resurrection Day."
CiiARLiis Williams, F.R.C.P.
Norwiulu
TlTB SFTPOSED MiLTONIC EpITAPJl. — The
phrase ** calcined into du6t ^' occurring in the
epitaph in queaLii>n was deemed barbarous by its
criticSi who even made the phrase an argument
for its spuriousniesa. The so-called barbarous ex-
prcsaion wo find, however, is used at least once
by Ijock© (Easatf on the Human Undergtundm^f
book IX, chup, X* i 5) : *' Since we oftentimes find
i [he is speaking of memory] the Oamee of a fever
I in a few days calcine all these images to dud and
confusion." I am not aware this passage baa 1
noticed before*
Glasgow.
PnoTooRAPH? : TUE Wab AiTB *' Thb Tim:
" N. & Q.*' was, we believe, the first joi
which showed its recognition of the great vali
of photography and the important results, literaryj'
ai'tis^tiCy and aocial^ which might be anticipated
from it hy opening its columns to pliotographera
until the science had suifjcieutly advanced to have
a journal of its own. The following interesting
account of the manner in which the science has
bitely been adopted to relieve some of the social
exigencies resulting from the dreadful war may,
therefore, very properly be transferred to
columns from The Time^ of January 30 : —
I
" How *TnE TiMEJi' WAS sent to Paris. — Att«iii|
to establish a ready communication between the
teagtiered inbabitanta of Paris and their relative!
frionda beyond tbe German lines have given rise to many
contriYancca which are not unlikely to make a new
era In the bi^tory both of aeronautics and pbotct^ipniphy.
Among them may be mcntion«?d the ingi*nioaf dcvi<» by
which Ihc matter of two whole patje^ of The Timet hu
been transmitted from London to Paris. This bas been
accompliahetl by photography. Those pages of the
which contained communications to relatives
were photo^aphed with ^reat care by the Lena
rcoscopic aod Photographic Corapany on pieces ^_
and almuNt trau-sparvnt paper, about an inch and a
' In length by an inch in width, Un these Impi
tbcrtj could be seen by the nalted eye only two h _
words, * Tht Timts^* and six narrow brown bands reprt^
sentingtbc *ix column* of printed matter forming a
of the newspaper. Under the micro^cof^e, howi
brown spaces become legible, and every line of
paper was found to have b^en distinctly copied
tbe |^reati«st df'arness. The photographs were sent
Bordeaux for transmission thence by carrier pigefon
Paris* When rccdi*ed there tliey were magrjified, '
aid of tbe magic lantern, to a largo size and throi
a »erecn. A staff of clerks immcrliatdy trance nl
messagesi and sent them off to the places indicated
the advertisers. The success of this experiment
rise to the hope that the new art of compreaainig
matter into a small rouipas» will not stop b«i
page of The Tinies can be compressed into a w
fargur than tliat occupied by a postage stamp, tbe
of as octavo volume might be made to cover not „
than two of its own pngcs^ und a library could bt
duced to the dimensions of the smallest prayer-boolu
What a relitf it would be to the learned persons who ftt-
quexii tbe library' of the British Museum, if. instead o€
having to make fatiguing jo urn eys from letter A to letter
B of the ponJenous catalogue of books, they had '
hundred volumes reduced to a space a yard sqw
whiuh a zuicroscope could be hurrioilly paased,
suggestions are now occupying tbe thoughts of
grsphers,*^
4^ 9. Tin Pm.4,710
NOTES AND QUEKIES,
ftS
AurnoRS wantbd, — Wlio is tHe author of—
•• Oeftnind, or Memoirs of a Northumbrian Xnblcman,
in the SeTcntwutli Ontury. Written by Himflelf.** In
J vol** " L'^iKion, printed at the Minerva Preaa for LoDe,
X€wmftn« & Co., Li>adcntia]] Street 1808." '
J. Perry.
H'lltJmm Abbcr,
•• M«ry Ma;^den*9 Tears wip't off , . , , London :
?riot«d 'for Holwrt Pawktt, at tJie IS'Mc in Clmncerv
Lmne, j»c« Fli^t Strwt, 1676/*
Tie work ndvocatcs strongly private oonfese^ion
tad sicerdotAl absoJution. ' J. T. F.
K. K^^wy, Brigg-
\L BARXS.^Tn those iDstAUccs wh(?ro
till reuiftin on thy gables of the roof, i
*:a^*_- I ij-erred that, instend of heing 8.S is usual,
upright, they are of a bent form. 1 have never
oWrA-ed theni of the ^atne form in any other
mf<ljaDval building; nnd this form being, so faras
1 utn aware, coutiued lo barns — acd being niore-
iif>T, M I think, sin^alarly ungraceful — I have
bei'a lf*d to conjecture that it muat have had
•ome pyiubolical meaning'. Can any of your
cnrrr^rru'^ents offer any explanation of itP A
: Ion of a finial such aa I refer to Tvill
ii the O.r/ortl GloMan/j Mb ed. plate 66.
1 Littleton, in ^Vorce«terl*hire, there is a
a which there are four such fiuials, all bent,
ill recollect rightly^ towards the south.
RrCHARD.
Lbqejtd on BfiLLS. — Can any lover of bells tell
me where the following- legend is? The initial
croas and intervening stops are very elegant, and
^ letters highly ornamented. I poase^ a rub-
^g of it, but have no memorandum where or
when it was taken, I am informed that the same
e»a and stop^ are on bells at St Mary's Bever-
•7» and at Stanground, Hunts, This is the
ltg«od in rattTWt : —
* €uitoi : natittAVum i i9idj,trl : it i mxtf: :
^itiiiunim*
IL T, ElLA COMBE.
^Apt Sl Georg^^ Di>VQn.
Trk Bmi) Cage Walk.— When I first remem-
W the Bird Cage Wulk in 8t. James*e Park —
"la my hot rontfa, yrh^n George the Third voa king " —
it WM the drill-ground of the young- soldiers
Moaging to the Foot Guards; and the l*?rigth of
tlw stride or step which they were tiiught was
Olirked by rows of narrow white stonea let into
tile gravel. Is this a common prtvcticf, iind how
^g is it aince they were taken up? I low this
uorrid war recalls to mind the distxessing ticenes
I liave witnessed in the Bird Cage Walk, when
detachmenta of the G uards were marched off to
^<mm lerdce I W. J. T,
BarTTsn Scythri) Chariots : Mrs. Mjlrk-
HAM — I have just read with great interest Mr,
Trol lope's graphic summary of Ctesar'a Commen-
taries in the admirable series of Ancimt dtumcs
for EnglUh Reader s^ edited by Mr* CoUinai, It
contains a note at pp, 79-80 denying that the
Britons used scythed chariots. This question was
brought forward in " N. & Q." in IbOO (2»* S.
i.t, 225), but was never followed up, though the
Editor invited special attention to it aa an intet'
esting subject wnich deserved further inveatiga*
lion. Mr, Trollope, I think, does not state the
case very happily or fairly, ond seems to me to
do scant'justice to the excellent writer who u bo
well known under her adopted name of Mr3.
Markham. He singles out Mrs. Markham and
Eugene Sue as peculinr people who have mainly
fostered the popular delusicm that the lirilons used
scythed chariots, whereas the matter was never
questioned (as the Editor of " N. & Q." observes)
until the year 1840, when the Marquis de Lago^j'a
work Bpptinred — e. g. see the Penny O/chpcediOj
Lond, }HSi\ 8. V, '* Chariot."
As to Mra. Penrose (" Mrs. Markhatn '*), I ven-
ture to say that her Hidonj of England (Urst
published in 1823) is the best history for the
young that ever appeared, and is far superior to
many works of much higher pretension. It is
well written, well informed, and marked by sound
judgment and good sense, and ia moreover ex-
tremely interesting* I know of no history used
in any of our public schools at all comparable to
it. It is on a different plan from Miss Yonge's ex-
cellent Land marks J but is equally meritorious,
Q Q*
Den^artus of DRUsua, Sukior. — I have in my
cJibinet a denarius of Drusus, Son,, struck when
he had the title of " Prlnceps Juventutis," The
obverse Ixos a plain, unlaureatedj and very youth-
ful bust Legend —
KRRO CLAYD . CAES . BRVSVS OERJC .
PRIKC . INVENT,
On the reverse are four sacred implemeDts — ►
viz, the lituus, tripod, patera, and ladle for liba-
tions. Legend —
SACERD . CO . OPTDffOMIT COKL BVPIU
KVM . EJC S , G,
It is the reverse legend that I cannot under-
stand. What would it be in full, and what ia the
meaning and application 61 it ? J. IL M,
CiTRioua Enqravhtg.— In a volume {Dc Art^
Cahalhtica) containing works of P, Iticcius, Leo
Hebra^us, Reuchlin, and Picus M irandol us, printed |
at Basle, 1587, there is a curious print, extendingj
over both the open folios, representing a touma-^
meot in a court enclosed on all sides by lioueea.
Nine knights are on eack a\d^, «bL w^VNiaSiV^ ^\\-
g-aged. One kas ivist uuYloi^^^ V^ ^^x^twkcs ^ ^sA
96
KOTES AJsD QUEEIES,
[4«i»S.VII. Fni,4,*Tl.
is tliTOwing up his spew into Ihe air ia token of
txiunipb. Ilia unhorsed adversAry is placed^ up-
porenlly in deriaiou, on a wooden ntiL The fol-
lowing* is written above tlie plat© in continuouB
Unefl over both folios : —
*♦ ExempJum IndicriB eommuAtODU Gf|aejtrii oUra uh
•qu(»tri ordino et nobilitate Genn«nic» concelelirarl H
cxiul>eri snilUSi jfi quo quie nabinde a nobis toto libm
aecundi tomi PaJidcirtarom triuniphalium Ue cunUonbua
ad drd timina, de fiinium iiicisionc, de modi pern torib us
pngnn de ppptoram in equitation* famosa^ sntioRiTuqih'
et cf^tti nmis^ione.* dc duiiodioruin deaique amputatinnc
el dilorifMtitiue dicuntur^ ocuIortMa eoiaibus luituifc^ti^'
Eime sulyiLiuumrJ'
Wbiit is the connection between this pkte and
the work on KaVbalisin ? E» L, Blenioxsopp,
MiiXKnto OF "Fog/* — What is the orif^in or
meftning of the word " fog" as applied to tbe Uter
growth of grass in fields for ftedin^ purposes P
'rhe word is common, I believe, in only parts of
Yorkshire, whore at Whitby I was struck lir&t
with it, in an advertiaeraent of " so many acres of
fog to be aold." S. H.
r Wedgrood oonnects F<ng and Fffft which he defino."*,
" Grass not eaten down in tlip rammer, thnt ji^rowj in
tuft* civer the winter/' Gnroet dorivi'S ftvt from the
Welch /fr^; bnt it would flccm from Atkiii*ii>t!*« Ghntrry
of thr 'Ckiylitnd Ditilrct , tbiiL m tliftt dislriot Attd in
Wc^tmortljiml, whih/mj is applied to the aAergrowLh in
meadows when the hay hu been cut offf/tg aimply moana
a diied grAss stem.]
The KonoLi) of Grohex.^ — VThsit is the pre-
cise title of an anonymous work on tViia subject
published in 1710, and abo of Gottfr. WahrlieVd
Tiftrrative ? I liave Zeutpiisi iUr revwn Wuhrheitf
172'^, by Jtiremifts Ilcini^cb, and ZhiUrricJU wk
man Gesprnatcr tmd Gexpetnierf/eschtchten jtriffeu
soil, g, if 1723 (by whom?), and would be glad
to learn if there are other tracta on the same sub-
ject. SOOTT.
Majhe Cats Amy Fowls. — Can any of your
readers refer tne to any theory which has teeti
put forward to account for the existence of the
breed of tailless cats and fowls, ao common in the
Isle of Man P Horienbis,
[Five ortirles on the Miiitx Cats appeared in the let
Series of *' X. Jk Q/' voL ixj
Wife of Qeoroe Nevlli, etc* — ^Who wa^ tho
wife of Gcorjfe N*^vill, Lord Latimer, son of Hnlph
Nevillj Earl of Westmoreland, by Joan, daughter
of John of Gaunt ; also, her annorial bearings ?
3. a
Piti-Beta-Kappa SociBTTr or Bostok< — Please
say why this society la so called. What do llie
thrive Greek iuitiid lettortj mean?
JaMISS J. L.UiD.
[CoMult **K. i Q," i'^ S. iU. im,]
The "Potters*' of the XoRTnEiiTr Cotut-
TrE.s. — Has any correspondent of " N. & Q," ever
raised a diacnaaion oa the above nomadic tribes ?
They have all the characteriatica of the gypsy
tribe ; but are they g^ypsiea, or are they not the
descendants of the Scotch and Enffiia^ inoea
troopers P Some of the real gypsy tribes diAOwa
the Betters, but otherij say they are the same.
The following are surnamee borne by poUexB sn
the North British isles: .Tollie, Younghasband,
Ibbetfion, Bell (Wordsworth s potter was a Bell),
8t>rey, Stanley, Cooper^ Solomon. I cannot in-
crease my list* which I know ia imperfect Of
the above naniea I think that the only iTjjt^j
ones arc Stiuilriy and Cooper- It is ciirioui to W n'l
the Jewish name SolouAon borne by ** potters." I
coukl eoy more on the subject, tut I postpone
further rcm:iika and conjectures, in hopes that we
may have information from some one wLo has
stuiied the subject more than I have dooe,
Jajibb ITE?rRr Bixo
**TnE Hearts of Men whici'
Who id the author of the lines Ins'
nice of the domed g^allery at the i»«n ai -\c.iii.emj|^
Burlington House, and which run as folbirs : -^
"The beart^^ cf men which " ' Iru
Fair fcciuing stiew^ niny p higher^
Ami learn to love witb ^>; .. .aty
The eternal fouatahi of that licaveiily liejiutT."
k X. T^
QtJOTATIOXa WAKTED. —
*• Una hoc vocari debet, an domus longe ? "
Makrochw:
Who i» the author of somo stanzas entith
"Good Night"? They nppeareil in the.
Liter ai-y Jouniitl (I think) before October, 18;
I give the commencement of the tirst : —
**Oood nijjbt to the**, lady, though mttnj
Have joined in the daD(% to-niifht,*' *c.
** A glowing irii bending o*cr the storm,
A swan emerging from the waves ua bright/' he,
A50Xj
St. Joseph-3 ErE. —
** This h the sonff one might percciva
On a Wtdneiday mora of Sl Jweph's Eve"
These lines occur in Longfellow's tranalalioa
Th^ Blihd Oiil of Cadil-VeiUh^ from the Gasc
of Jasmin, and bear reference to an approachin
wedding proceesion. Can you help me to sg
meAuing of them, or traditian cont^ectpd with th'
dnyF I have read that St. Jose^^a Day
unlucky for marriages. A. V
Thomas Stanley, Bishop of Sobor a^'d 3
In the Lancashire Ckantrus^ vol. i, p. CO, noti
being voL lix. of the Chethani Society, thU pn
late, who was also Rector of Win\>Ht*t^\ Wi^^mi
and North Meoles, is said to be "a you
the second Lord Monteagle/' In 'an
BOLIOTHECAB. CHETHAat ('»N, JtQ," 4"* 6,
4<k3> Til. Fkb.4,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
T ^^n T. ITeTwocd, who deacribes
• t of tbo" Stunleya ns uncouth
TtiYme^, to be lite '^*9on of thftt Sir Edward Slan-
!er who, for lib valotir at Flodden, was created
Lord Mout^aple** — the first l^ord Monteagle, I
foppo^e, AntboTiy h Wood (Athen, Oxon,, Toh ii.
f^L ^7^ rontnat^i himself with Mving that h«
irn^ [1 ciid.'t <if the frtunJy of the Stanleys, which
b trur^ : but I wiint the whole truth/ ^V^here
Trra5 t'lis- pr»>lLit<? buried, and where elae than in
pri vatflj printL^d hooks can a copj of the Stanley
P'X'Ui oa tne EavU of Derbj be found ?
A.RL.
•THoreiiTa of Patrtcius/' — 'Who waa the
anthfir of the above wofk^ of which the full title
ia —
•* ThoufifhtA of Fatricia^ aa UtiHti*!, on the Interests
of Hafikind aod partiaj!;ir!y on tliosc of the Irish Xfttion ;
also A ftn occasifjUfll Tracts, The whole written late in
\ih hy an nonofatr Member of the DabUn Society. 8?©,
Piiblia, 1785,"
On tlie titltf-pago in mj copy \& the following
its. note : —
*• And in truth so faithfully printed, that y* author is
iilroc«t asUaiiierl cFen to bestow it to h\» much adnurctl
Boloi^brolte. He anppressed y* sale of it^ becaase of its
dijfoet*, tml difpened \x lo his deicendnnts, in \* hop© of
il» doing tone good— knowing that a good' intention
iltoUtadiL I}«c 7^, 1795. E.G.*'
E, Pn, SflmLBY.
Loagli Ffii, CarriclcmaciDss.
"ThR TIMBS WmgiTLE;' KTO, BY " R. C."^In
•The Time* Whi^t!^/' which I am now editing^
hem tho Canterbury MS., occurs the following
* Carrier c*f late wonld hare mado Ilia ttan/tt
HTriinLin- r,.^ ill fin* In be BSttfeOl^l deUT
b\ lelattf) to th* citty
01 : ' f>, Hud/ jkiv some, ' *twaa pitty
T) I Ii/wd) iuttut
Hi vent.
For ! , „ not Binftlf,
Mi^lu HI iht^rt lime have been a Cardiuali.*
What his •ot'oesw had provM I dare not say,
Forheii'i' v:
H%h Jo *. I bflcksl idc,
S(n>lu fiiii ; hii di{;d.
8o«ie Ibiiik he was fu/t Ajio^totiedll,
BniAlwiiie^ in hi* heart papblicall," die*
Mr :ire t —
1 . ' era t hifl description of ** Carrier " ?
2L LUn tinv reader of "N. & Q.*' auggeat who
-ii.C^fiL>nt.'wae?
Tbe date- of the «vitires inaT h© placed a little
earlier than 1616 j the poems iti ibis latter yrar.
rarenham. J. M, Cowi'ER,
MEWTATi EaiTAITTT OP TITE SeX>!3. — It WOUld
,0.5 touchinj^ this much-debated
am whether that strange j^ft of
:; I ' \ among othera by
til. lat^' ly in hia boyhood)
Lfl ever i^tru t>f:riuwt'u y>u girls» 1 have put
this query before without re>ceiving any reply.
Surely among the readers of "N, & Q,** there
should be some able to giye one.
No ELL RaDECLIFFB.
TrroMsojr a DRrn>. — Why does Collina, in his
elejry on Thomson, call him n Druid ? I am not
aaktng* for a learned dissertation on the term. I
know the meaniiig" of Druid* But how waa the
** poet of the Bcusona '* one ?
SrEPHEK Jacksok,
The ChJRSJ. OF Xerxes, — In Cox's Mythcdogy
of the Aryan Natiom (i. 92) occurs the following
note : —
" It is now a£5ert«d that ' Offiki dyke * h a natural work,
and OHtt Limwir h thus carried suspiciously near the
cloud Innd of mythology. The stippo.wd caiiafof X«rxM,
at the base of Mt, Athos, has f»hared the Mme fate ; and
the Baspidon of Juvenal (x. 74>, that the stori* waa a
myth, has thus been verLticd. *■ OiTa*» dyko' and the canal
of Xerxes are, in abort, no more artificial than Fiagal'a
Cove and the Giant'ft Causeway."
As regards the canal of Xerxes, this seems a
bold assertion^ and esfpccially in epite of the
authority of Thucydidea (bL iy. 109) and of
Herodotus (bk.yii.), whose testimony alone would,
I should think, be quite strong enouj^h to prore
that it had existed. Col, Leake^ in his Traveh in
Greece (vol iii. ch. xiitOi gives particulai-s of a
careful survey of it, and likewise a reason why it
should be made. The suspicion of Juvenal, cou-
ddering his well-known tendency to exaggeration
and his contempt for the Greeklingrs ana **para
Niliaci plobis/' &c., cannot be taken into account.
What is Jfr. Cax*s authority for the assertion,
and what the veriticatioii of Juvenal's suspicion?
T. E. C.
GOVERXITEST StAMP OX PlCTUBE CAJTVAS. —
Can any one inform us when the government
stamp on picture canvas was first imposed and
when taken ofl? H. G. k Co.
A RECTORSHIP OF EIGIITY-ONE YEARa.
(4^'» 8. vii. 50.)
A correspondent, who dates from TurveT, «aya
that the parish register of Kuosaington Grange
" record H " Jlirhard Snmson as rector of the parisii
from 1558 to KWU. Although I have no acquaint-
ance with that register, 1 can venture to assert
that it *' records" no such fact Thij* corre-
spondent has been misled by an absunl fallacy^
excusable in one who is evidently not an expert
in parish registers. The facta aro these : Parish
registers began generally bv an injunction of
Thomas Cromwell in 15;i8, ^fhese registers wi»r6
small books of pifpm\ liable to decay and to be
lost^ and manv of th^m did thits suffer. In the
I
■
first year of James 1., 1603, an injunction was
issued (*»oe Gibson's Codfx^ i. 1229) commanding
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NOTES AND QUERIES*
l4'i^S.VILFM,4,7L
every parish to be provided \i^ith a parchmefit
book for the regitter ; and it wns further ordered
that the old legisters from loi^S, or m far back as
tliey could be found, fhoitld he copied into tbia
new book, and that llie niiiii&ter and cburch-
wordens ebould Bubtcribe their nHmos Hi the foot
of every p»ge or year. II< wee it h found that
nearly all the registers which vxtend back beycml
1003 are signed from the beg inning by the ineujn-
UjDt of the latter dale, and of course continue to
be so signed till the end of hia incumbency.
Thus, if the re^istera of Kno^Bing-ton Grang^e had
gone back to 1538, oa they would have done had
some not been loat, this correspondent would have
astonii^hed us with a rector wlio had reigned one
hundn d and one years, and whose age must then
havi' been at least a hundred and twenty-live I
Here is another centenanan vox tt pretterta nihil!
E. V,
You will doubtless receive many comroimica-
iioDS showing that this supposed long- incumbency
iiro&e from Richard Samson signing the new
xegisters; but would it not be wuU, by way of
clenching the matter, to aacertaiu from the dio-
cesan registers, if possible, who tlie re dor or
rectors of Knossington Grange were between John
Westmill atid Richard Samson ? 11. F. T.
The difficulty of your corresnondent H. is one
which preacntii itself to all fitnaenta of old regii^-
ters at the commencement of their researches. In
ijjtplanation let me quote a few lines from the
Cambridge CMnden iSociety's Chmvhe» of Cmn-
^nJf/t»hirc, p, 15. The church being described ia
Cherr}' Hinton : —
"Ttie pariili rt^ister dates back as far as 1588, the
3"eiir in which Croiuwdl, then vicar-general, ifl«uefl
liii! injunction with regard to them : it is not, howev<!'r,
to be iuferreit that the exiijtLi]^ volume id uf that datu ;
for in the last of Iho conHiiiutioiis of th« synod of the
province of C'anterbur>', held in )507, it wna ordained
ihnt the parish books, moiit of which hud Leforc that time
be<?n kept on pnper, //Am cftartacciai ^houtil be tran-
scribed on parch men t| and so ktpt for the futari" j each
png« of the transcript beinj; fiigned hy the minister and
churchwardens, c,f a rt/wjii of the tburth/'
In the rf'gister at Cherry Hinton some observer
had noted that everv page from 15-38 to 1604
* vrm fijgiied by Mr* Moigne, vicar, who had thus
entered in the book thai he had been vicar for
aixty-six years, and had had the game church-
WAi'dt'ns for tifty-nine year.n. ISul this same
Thomas Moigne died before he was eeventy years
x>ld, and was made Bishop of Kilmore seventeen
years after he resigned Cherry Hinton. In a note
IS mentioned an mslance of the same thing at
Bishopfibourne ehiirch| Kent, where the feigna-
tui^ of Richard Hooht^r oet-urs as early as 15G6,
at which time he was about thirU^en years of age.
lu this neighbourhood 1 have met with many
iHustratioBs of the above. At Whittlesey St
I as
icarj
Maiy the signature of Francis Gates occutb as
vicar from 16tM) to 102:^ ; and a subsequent vicar^
has made note to the effect that he was vicar " '
Hxty-fonr yeftrs or thereabouts.'* 'But in fact
was' preseiited in 1590 and died in 1622, and
consequently viear when the order of convocatioil^
was mnde for transcribing the old boolre. In
Elton the register begins at the year 1500^ yet it
wns *'made in the yeare of our Lord loOH/'
the heading informs iis. At Eye and at Peaki
the copyists append their names. At Castor th(
ciirnte iind churchwardens testify to the coi
ness of the transcript. This is done in Lati]
except once thus ; *'It agreeth with the origini
as witnessetb Edward Stokes, Curat/* &c. A
the following b the heading of the register-book
at ilarholm ; —
'^The Iti'gT lK>oke belnaging to tho pish of Marham
wherio is recorded tho uamcs of all suclt a*i have bets
mftried baptized and buried sencc the yeare v( our lori
(jjod cine thoui^and five humlreth threescore and five bclbn
I he w*:^ lyaie Is not anvnwmes Rifristned to be founl
truly coppyed out in A* l5»'' 15'jy acconb'ng to the Qaeeal
Ma''" Imunction and statute/' J
Peterborough. W. D. SW£STIK0, |
The marvellously prolonged incnnibencv
Richard Samsin, supposed to be rector of lin^
i?ington in Leiceatershire from 1558 to 1030,
readily explained, but not in the way sii'
by the editorinl note. It is amusing th
hallucination of the last century should be n
just now, only a few months after the app*N
of an excellent essay on Pu/^i Jiit/ister«, by IBB
Eilninnd Chester \Vater3, Esq.» B.A.^ of the Inner
Temple (reprinted, in 8vO| 1870, with edditiooa
and corrections, from The Home and Foreign Jti ^
vieio for April, 181)3). This essay is in mai
respecL*^ more complete than the I/istor^ of Pari*
Me^ister^ hj the late Mr. John S* Burn, of tl
second edition of which (18G2J it was originallj
written as a review^
The importance and value of parish
seem to have been never better appn
the clergy thnn at the close of the sixteen ui llh-
tury. Tney had then been kept for about st*vent
years, and the old paper books were in many plac<
decayed or wearing out. Provision wns thereforai
made that they shonld be transcribed, and on
parchment instead of paper. Mr* Waters states
that—
" On October 25, 1507, the clergy of Caaterbury
convoeation mfld« a new ordinance respecting regist
whitih waa formally approved by the que* u under the i
«e£i1. It commences by noticing their very grvat u
(pt^r$Hnffntt» ngvi), and Iftya down minute rc^lutions ft
their pVeservation, whicli were afterward* «mlwjdicd i
the 70tb eanon of IGua. The canon dirpcteil thi
eA^ery pari.Nh should provide ititolf with aparchnuMit book,'
and that [he eutrieij from tbc olij paper booki should b9
traaseribtd therein, each pngc being authenticated by tha
aignature of the miuifiltfr and churchwardens/
006
atUitjf
V^S.m.7mB.4,*7Uj
NOTES AND QUERIES.
99
** In obedience to tlM iojanction (Mr. WaUra lubac-
^Kttlly reiQAfks) every pa^e of the trAoscript is signed
bv Uie minister And clfurchw&nieiii of tbat year in which
tb»? ct'py was made. This circumftance gave rise to a
iaiiicToii* notion rw^p^^ing the longevity of the clergy of
rl« «kix which at one time found strenuoos
^txi'i luarian writer a. (Cole^sMSS. xli.
I n > I ,^ in his UUtory ttf Here/ordMhiret
triB that Robert Bamca was Ticar of
ot|yhty-two years, as his name appean
i: ^T' it period! In the parcHehial registers,
1^ rchwardens filled that office from
1 Another iru«tance of this sop-
T tTri Mr. Sirapwn, who was
1 iiviiif; of Kcyham in Leices-
tersmrc uji iimt^ij* i^u vrrrti», and to have had the same
dmroh wardens for seventy yean."
In the HisUnry of Leictster^ire, ill, 980, under
Sewtne Ub the name of the chApcb-y is there
epelt), will be fotind a long extract from a MS.
£ieiij on P&riBh Registera, written by the Rev.
Qeorgo Ashhy, B.D., President of St. John a Col-
Wm, Ofttabtictge, Mr. A«bby fell into thifl aheurd
nmppiehexttion, but it wns detected by Dr. Car-
dfile m Rothley, and confut^^d by Lord Went-
vortb in the 'Omeral Evctmtg its* in 1765, and
ogmin by Mr. Bray% afterwai'dfl the hiatorian of
Sturdy, m the aecood edition of hi.^ Tom*.
Joni? GouoH NiCHOLdt
In the btmal register of St ^fary Alderman-
Irory, 1/ondon, under date August 12, 1*317, occurs
\\ ' iug: — ^*Mr, Robert Harland, minister
i. iL"<b» bf^inff minidtcr seYeJitv-mne years."
1 h*. litit cUii^e of tnis entry is in a dilferent hand-
writing from the portion that precedes it, but
forma part of the record. I am convinced that
whoever made the addition did bo because he
Csaiid that Mr. Harland had signed each page of
Ihe regUter as far back aa its commencement in
1588, exactly seventy-nine Teara, but without
knowing, or taking the trouble to ascertain, that
down to abont 1600 the register was the tran-
acfipt ordered in 15t)8, and that it was the duty
of toe incumbent and churchwardens to attest the
•octiracy of the transcript. Perhapa this will
eiiplain the ca^^e at Kno^sinfrton.
Joseph Lku itzl Chesteb,
'*S01tE GO TO CHURCH." ETC. : OLD RHYMES,
(4»'> S. vi. 296, 404, 502.)
Mft. Jackson deaires to see tbe old rliyme in
ixteiwy^ It haa jnst been communicated to me by
a Cfiend, who remembers hearing it in hia youth r —
** Some go to church to take a walk,
gome there go to lau;L!:h and tAlk,
^>mc ibrre go their fault* to cover,
Others go to meet a lover,
f^yvMi there go to «leiep and nod,
But few go there to worship God.**
I am Umpted to add here some other qnaint
rhymes, which I owe to the kindness of the friend
just mentioned. He received them many years
ago from an ajjed relative, who has now departed
to the unseen land.
The lines which follow this ancient gentleman
naed to attribute to a achoolmaater named Byromp
whoae pupiliie bad been in bia younger days : —
''He that buys land, bays many stones ;
He tlmt buys tlefh, buys many boiie»;
He that buys eggs, buys many a bells ;
He that buys good ale, aeldooi buya aught else.*'
(The last word prononnced as if written in
glo&fiic eh). The writer of it is said to have been
a living example of its truth.
Barbers, from Burchiello, whose utterly unin*
telligible veraea are models of claaaic Italian^
down to tbe genial author of the *^ Barber'a Shon/'
my good friend Mr. Richard Wright Procter, wno
is at once historian and laureate of the cutming
ahavera, have often been pen;s (lespriL Amongst
them should be classed old Jerry Dawson^ w*ho«e
shop was in the neighbourhood of Red Bank He
hit upon a plan for keeping his customers in
good liumour whilst they were waiting their turn
to be shaved or polled. Uh device for their
amusement was to write Bcrapa of poetrv, which
he put up conspicuously io hia shoo, 'fhe parti-
cular penod of the year often prave nim a aubject
for bis rhymes, 'fhus for Shrove Tuesday he
wrote : —
•♦Make pancakes of the b^st of batter,
And drink good ale that minute after,
And keep Shrove Tuesday like a mon,
For hungrj' Lent is coming on.''
The old barber was, unfortunately for himself^"
no teetotaller, and ale was a feature in his verses,
as may be seen by this on Easter: —
•* Ettt Easter dumpling with i^.HKl ?pice» _ _
And drink good ale both warm and nice {
Eat and drink till youVc got red faces.
For you're not sure of seeing th* races,"
Kaster he pronounced in the true Lancaabira
fashion, which in glosaic notation would be
'* AistT.^*
Another rhyme which was a favourite with the
old gentleman is the following quaint reftection
on the relative importance of the lawyer, tbe pby-
flician, and the clergyman. The structure ot tne
verse nppeara to show that it must have been
written in the "golden days of good Queen Bess"
or soon nfter: —
*• Law, Phytic, and Divinity,
Bein^ in dispute, could not agree
Which of the three should bave the sopcHority.
** Law pteadii he doth preserve man's lanih*,
And nil their goods from ravenoiu* hands,
Therefore claims he to have tbe awpcriiirity.
** The doctor next, with rcdpes for health,
Which raen do value above their wealth.
Therefore claims he to have the superiority.
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[4«''8,VILFfti».i.7l.
1
' h face demure,
cam nml cure,
uge hath he to hare tlu
•'Kextrciiiicfl tho —■
Tliereftirt? of r
«upcrIorit}%
JiloraL
••If men would kwp the gulden rule,
Tliey nfeed nut br the lawytir's fool.
If men wouUi kt^cp (mm tjccess and riot,
Thoy need not ftcd on doctars" diet.
If men would do vrhrtt <^k! dntli teach,
Tiny need not mill 1 1 -na preach.
But if ann U^tli kn \i viW be,
Vt'hy they may 1>q a .. .„-„-„ Ly all three,**
This reminds me of a gmve debate that once
took place in a dis^cusfdon society which met in
Hancbestcr about 1780, as to which Wfts the
greatest benefactor to society, the lawyer, the
phyBician, or the soldier. After all the pro* and
cuHs had been adduced the vote was taken, and
peaceful Manchester, the rery home of the ** fair
white-winged peacemaker," Conimeroe^ eoleninly
decided that of the three the gfreateet beuelictor
•'.... the red-coat holly in h!i hoots
That hides the mardi of m<^n from us."
Wiu-iAai E. A. Axon*
Jogrn»on Street, Strangcwaya.
A friend guppliea the folio wing Teraion, as it is
Mid in the \\ est of England : —
•* Some go to church to fetch ft walk,
Some go to church to hare a talk,
Some go to church to meet a friend^
Some go there an hour to spend,
3ome ^o there to hear the ticW9,
Some go there to ftleep in pews,
And yet, 'ti» very Birange and odd.
How few go there to wordhip QodJ*
No doubt, a3 h the case with all popular
rhymes, there are many voriationa, WillLrDiARii
oblige me by stuting if his version is traditional
or token from a printed copy?
Stepios Jacksoj?.
The following rertion hni been f^applied to me
from memory as having appeared m a Snflblk
newspaper early in the present century :—
** Some frr> tr* chiiroh jtj^t for a walk,
Somt ' Tantl tnlk,
Son; t fi friviul,
8on>^ , _ Lime to speud,
SMne gw til r re to «ec » lover,
Some go therts their fiiulla to cover.
Some go there to doze mul nm\^
But few go there Ut ^foitlxip Gt>d/*
Pelerhorongb.
[E+ D. give* A simihr -^ " - - * ^z- c-.^--.^f^*g
with the exception of mi It"
for*'*;odf'* and"sec'* in . i —mi.]
ORDERS OF KKIGHTH001>.
(4«* a V. 300, 472; 512, C41, GOT; tL 121, U
674.)
The reply of J. W. at p. 574 of t^ ^ -^ -n}n
of *'N. & i^J* ia in fact nearly aii of i
that 1 have been mainUdning. *'XLio, iiue. -dl*-
aitbmisaion to the Holy See^ — **ia the giit of th
whole mailer," is J. W.*b observation (p, 6751
Undoubtedly so. If the Archbishop of Caat
bury should eiitablish an associatiou or order, fcN
instance, of viaitors of the Protestant sick m hu
diocese, it would probably be felt indect^nt if the
Biahop of Natal Dr. Colenso, or Dr* Normwi
Mfldeod, or any other respectable Presbyterian
minister, claimed a right to fill up any racttociea
or to establish a branch « But it must be neoU
lected that the attempt has actually been tsia
the English aasociation calling itself the Kl
Langue to obtain recognition at Koine. Tl
tempt failed, of course ; but an association whic
did such a thing i^ disqualified from speaking^
against Papal jurisdiction. I l>eg once more to
draw the attention of J. W. and hi a frienda to 1
letters of HisTORicrs and Scrutatoe in the thij
volume of " N. & (?." IBOa. So far from wiah
to ignore the pretended restoration of a so-calle
English Limgue in France, I have already referre^
to tne iinawer made by Hi&tobjcus in that volume,
and I beg now to suggest to J. W. that he should .
rei>ly to that able writer, and to Sckutator, aiid
olao to two most interesting notes by J. J.W\ ia
volume iv. pp. 100 and !212, who there givee deUdBb
of the proceedings at Home. If any reply to iham
writers is posfiible, let it be made at coioe. In lli#
mean time I have no doubt, aa I aaid« that moqt ^
thinking persona will hesitate to accept J. W,!^H
authority. The whole thing may be illuatrat4»<[J^|
but not exhausted, by a short, not entirely bwi^a
ginary, apoloL^ue.
Mr. St. John, a gentleman of ancient dosoenl,
with large family connection in Europe, waa, m.
long time ago, attacked by a set of burgUra, do
prived of all his houses and lands", and hnd to
for his life to his kinsmen abroad* The lafi
hia own country would not help him, f«^r th|
rogues had bribed the Bench, and the King too
hia share. So, as they had no Uro for churche
they blew up and pulled down all that
to him, took the houses and money, eat^ dr
and were merry. And it must be owned tha
with these and' other little pickings, they litd
very fine time of it. But not long ago the '^
^ceniiant of the 3Ir. St John who liad I
driven into exile came back to England ;
with the least idea of recovering aay stoleiL
perty, but merely to settle himself, aa vfell^^
could, in the country of his fatb' 'frJi
John of St. John. One day, wall
buiiiaess in London, he meets an extetuiti^jj^
«*&Vn. Feb.*, '71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
gentleman, wlio iratuediAtelr stops, pute him on
file skaulder, nod says, ** Old fellow, very gplad to
see Tou- Here we are/' Mr. St. John, perbaps
prifjudiced in favour of Imowxng your friends,
feqitests to be iDforoied of the name of hid soci-
mme but unejqiected interlocutor. ^ Oh,'* hljb
the Stranger, " don't you know ? Tm St. John of
Si. John too ; took the nRme, you know. Second
aolitmn in the Times*, don't you see, deed poll^
«ad nil that ; I^ and all the family. We are one
mow/* Mr. St. John t tprej^aea his amaze-
He wa^ not aware th^t there waa any
taailmg brmch of hie family in EnglatKi besides
ills own. •* Oh, ye«/' say a the aStranger ; " we
mt^ A ^rtd branch; we have g^t the name, end
liare taken the arm?, and are always known as
St* John§, and hare set up new housea, and, what
1 am snre yna ^ill like beBt, we have made a
pedigree, don't you know» and there we are all in
it, 03^ rf pEf na possible. You and all your foreigii
f are there, side by side with us."
i- Mr. St, John BUgge«ts that the Stranger
iboeild accompany him to the Hemlda' College,
fluit tb*«<P ?t«t«mentB may be authenticated,
•Herr/ ' ' ^ Pooh! old almanacks. You
can £ not I. We don't mind Sir
0oirgi>oTi5 i3'i[ni::i, nor the Pope, nor anybody
elK. Depend upon it, my dear fellow, it*a only a
aiflller of Opinion. You call yourself St. John,
wm do w«^ \o one here knows any diflerence ;
Md a» wc hare taken the name wo shall stick to
It CN>od bye. Kemember me to all our kinsfolk
ilimd/'
It nsmaina to be seen what Opinion will do for
Hie new Mr» St John.
** Vjb vobis qui ajdifieati'^ monumeuta Prophetarum ;
aut^m vcstri occideruat iJloi.*'
D. P,
Stittftf Lod^e, Malvom WcUs.
I have read with great interest the discussion
'. } ,. ij J>n3 been gohv;* on for some time nhout this
i t in "K". vV Q/* and al^o in the Spectator —
n which was carried on with a courtesy
-' that made the absence of it on the
r too conspicuous. The suggestion of
ra in No. 157 seems to me cieaerving
-t ' i m, and well worthy the
i 7 narties. The English
I ,ui3 tiie credit of fulfilling
• lility the duties of the order,
ling part of a court pageant
fiected), as I have seen the
, . . ' in their scarlet coats in
^^ I'lirh. I would offi?r one more snggeation :
iii» Queen is sovereign of Malta; what if she
'^iT^' to niwime the protectorate of the English
1p:rT ' t!i? iTTji^hts would then at court wear
e they have every right to
L rder would have a publicly
recognised status, which must tend to ita advan-
tage J and as the knights wotild claim no preca*
dence more than the wearers of en ordinary war
raedaly while the rules under which alone the
order can be conferred;^ woold effectually prevent
any but gentlemen belonging to it, the court
circle would at all events lose nothing by their
presence, The privilege might be oonfineff to the
' * Chevaliers of J ustice. CrwRM,
Torth yr Aur, Carnarvon.
BARBAROUS MASSACRE.
(4*^ S. vL 526.)
Don Francois d'Almeyda, the firti vicepof _
Portuguese India, was appointed governor of the
Indies in 1505, He sailed from Belem in ftlarch
of that year, and reached tha coasts of Portuguese
India in the month of October. In l^K)d, after
the defeat of the Portuguese forces in a naval
engagement before Daboid, Don Alfonso d' Albu-
querque arrived in India to supersede Almeydau
The latter, burning to avenge the loss of his sou
in the previously named naval engagement, re--
fused to yield up his authority until he had chaa*
tiaed the infidels. After indicting a summary
retribution on the inhabitants of Daboul, he en-
countered liis enemies at sea, opposite the island
of Diu, and completely destroj^ed their fleet. In
November, 1500, the victor of i»iu linally quitted
the shores on which his name bad become a terror
and his vengeance a proverb. I>on Frnn^oi^ d'Al-
meyda perished in March, 1510, by the hand of a
Caffre at the Cape of Good Hope,
The "barbarous massacre'* Mr. Elus refen
to may be that which was conducted by order of
Almevda at Dabouk Ilis proceedings therein
have Ibcen thus described :—
'^Alme^nlii po»itivf1y refuiied to r«sign lik COniraand
antil be sibould have avenged hin son's death by ibe
^le^t ruction of the hoslili; Ileet Ikinj^ supi>ort<?d in liis
dixvobc'diuTucfl to the rovnl in'jndato by several leading
ctBcers, he refused to kllotv Albut|Utrqae oven to take
part in tUe intdtdetl expedition (agnitist thiboal).*'
There, we are told—
" once on *hore, by tb« ord<?r ©f th? in*rcil<»88 victor, an
indiscrimlDato i-lnuftli ' "' ' ' 'rcrftmed
^viih blood, Jiwd the h) the
eave* oftbe iK'iffhbM). , rac«ful
ioene hftd a ftuiublc cuitclu»iou \ fur Alutteytia^ unable
to withdraw bia trouj» from ihcir horriWe tinpbn mcnt,
eau^i^d tbt* tovrn to be fet an lire. The tl^mi^ extended
rapidJy nvtsr tlie light timl*cr roofi*. and after reducing
the stiitidy city to n pile of smoking w<x)d nnd Ufiheji^
reaehed the bwrtiour* The native ^hippin^? was tlc-
stroyed ; the Portngiie^c tismJIsi with diiKcuity escaped,
and proceeded to the GbU' of CamUay.-'
lie filled up the measure of his barbarities bj
causing his prisoners to be shut up in the prixe
ve^els and burnt with tbem.
*• Manv/* &ava Faria v Sou»»a, ''judged the unhnppy
end of the vioeroy and other gentlemen to be a juat pun-
ishmeat of that criuic.'*
102
KOTES AND QCERIEa
L4»fc8,Vll. r»,4,7i.
If the massacre occurred about the year
1511, Don AlfoQBo d'Albuquerque ^^&a then the
Portuguese goT era or- general of India, It there-
for© njight nave been in connection with the
acquisition of Goa. The city was tuken by sur-
prise in the earlj part of 1510, recaptured a few
months later by'lujnf Adil Shah in nerson, and
finally conquere'd by Albuquerque at the close of
the same year. The contest was prolonged and
eanguinary, and the after-slaughter must have
been terrific, since, according to Sousa. ** nut one
Moor was left alive in the island." (Portuffuau
Asia, L 172.^ The Ilmdoos were treated very
differently; lor Albuquerque confirmed them in
their poseesaions, and promoted the intermarriage
of their women with the Portuguese by hand-
some dowries, at the same time proving his con-
fidence in his new subjects by employing them
In both civil and military capacities. Albuquerque
died at Goa, December 13, 1515,
N,B, The designation ''Moors" seems iieqnently
applied to Arabian and African Mohammedans, in
contradistinction to Moguls and Fatans. Sousa
epeaka of thera as " inhabiting from Choul (in
the Conran) to Cape Comorin/' The lioQour of
the discovery of the Cape route to India does not^
I venture to submit, belong to A'asco da Gama.
It was Bartolomao IHnZf ten years before Vfleco
da Gama's voyage to India, w^ho passed the Cape
without knowing it, and deapit© the murmura of
bis crew, proceeded as far as the mouth of the
Great Fbh Kiver, Coni]>elled most unwillingly
to Tetum, be now first discovered the southern
headland of the African contineot ; and reaching
it in stormy weather, he bestowed on it the
designation of '' Caho Tormentoso»" Biaa re*
turned to Lisbon in the December of 1487, after a
voyage of Uttle more than sijcteen months. The
way to India was now open* In 1497 Emanuel,
the king of Portugal, equipped a fieet of four
ships for the purpose of reaching India by a pas-
fag© round the Cape, and gaire the command of
the expedition to Vasco da Oama. The expedition
fiiiled from the month of the Tagua on July B^
i4V»7, having iu all 10<) men on board. It doubled
the Cape on November 20, and coasting the
eastern aea-board of Africa as far north as Me-
Hnda (lat 3*" S.), it sailed under the guidance of
a native pilot for the shores of India. I'he voy-
age from Melinda to the Malabar coas^t occupied
twenty -three days ; and the fleet anchored before
the city of Calicut on May 20, 1408. Two years
and nearly two months elapsed between the date
of Da Oania*a departure ana his return to Lisbon.
The stetmd Portuguese fleet to the Indies was
despatched in the year succeeding his return,
under the command of Alvarez Cabral.
CnA&L£s Naylob,
RING WILLIAM IH;« STIRRUPS AND OTHEE
RELICS AT CARUICKBLACKER, CO. ABMAGH*^
(4** S. vi. 477.)
A query having appeared in your Number of
December 3 last respecting a pair of slirrupa leea
ftome years ago in the possession of tho Hen
James* Steuart Blacker^ rector of Keady, county
Armagh, it maybe interesting to aitatc that *
relics, along with many others appertain!
that eventful period, are still at Cnrrickb]
the seat of the Blaclier family, in the
Armagh, near Portadown. The reverend
man was family executor at the time adveri
and thus was in possession of the beirlooma,
these amongst them.
The stirrups, however, bear evidence in them"
selves of an earlier date than the Boyne battli
(1690), and as beiog the property of an earlle
king than William IH., viz. Charlea I, j for oi
the interior of the upper p&rt, where the leathe
was looped on, is plainly marked, dotted or io^
scribed, a royal crown, witb the cypher C. K. an(
the date 102G beneath. They stand eight inches*
in height, with a breadth of five-and-a-half iocbes>
at the swell fur the foot. On the outer sides a
scallop-shell pattern is inscribed. The whoh
accoutrement bears a darkbronio colour enliven^
with gold we^ed into the parts where the ahi
occur, or are marked by incised linea Tbai '*
belonged to Charles L, however, is no reasoin ».«,.
they should not have been worn by Williaju IlL^
his relative and descendant. The saddle-cloth is
also at Carrickblacker, a gorgeous aflfair of cnmson
velvet,^ superbly embroidered in gold, with hoktet
trimmings complete. The saddle itaelf is said
be in the possession of tli© Marquis of Droghi
and without any stirrups or other paraphernal iiu'
How they became separated is not very clear^ but
Srobably in the scramble of attached attendants
esiroue to secure memorials of such historic
scenes and personages. Most of Ihofio at Carrick-
blacker came from an ancestor, General Frederic
Hamilton, aide-de-camp to King William II*
with estates in Tipperary, Londonderry, and olha
counties. He was originally of Milbum, ^
Lanarkshire, and called a property near Colen
Milburn after it. He is mentioned by Cap!
Parker as his chief patron in his interesting wad
now scarce record of the Irish conflicta at tbit
period, and also the Marlborough wars in Qooea
Anne^s time.
Amongst other items traceable to this source,
kept at Carriekbkcker, are King William HL^a
gloves, rather rough chamois leathtM gauntlets^
iimamented with black satin and gold embroidery
trimmings; tho original MS, draft of the brass
money proclamation, with William III.*a signa-
ture, 'dated July 10, 1600. " Given at our camp
at Finglaa," N.B, There is no mention of
n
ed^
alt«;^
4»*SwVlI* Fmii.^,7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
103
8'
*' wooden liboeif^ but^pecimetts of the base coinage
i.r ' — ■>:- TTi cliiiias rouml the frame. The first
}i r I'botnii^, aft tT wards Lord Conyngsby,
\v .. k ; » , r WilUam'a arm when wounded
li and kerchief itself is said to
. jj . -_ :. a of the Efljrl of Essex^ a
deaoendont : oXm a handsome massive cruet-stimdi
preseattdd by the king. Lord Essex preaented
the mustaril-pot to the present Earl of Euniskil-
Itsa; it i§ the size of a small tankard^ containing
fully a piiit, and -when tilled with gr>od liquori
muat be drained to the glorious memory without
dimwitig breathy iu order to obtain " the freedom
of Floreaoe Court."
But to continue the list of historic curiosities
at Carrickblacktir. There h the celebrated Derry
deedj with all the signaturea and scala of the
ow&en of prciperty destroyed in the sie«re of
^poa i-y biimiog' compensntion from the British
*' it — we are sorry to say vainly and
Vk "Ct. The names of families still ex-
los^eesing property are easily traceable.
L , — ^^,l4 fired at Derry when metal was ex-
bansted. A scrap of the tiag of the Inni^killing
mtai bofiie at the Boyne; a large remnant is still at
Eoniakillen cur Florence Court. A chair of oiik made
from the platform on top of the cathedral tower
11 which cannon was mounted and fired
i' siege. The old form of the cathedral
i ^^ afio the walk in relief on the back
I i<.lbum*s saddle, used in a sortie at the
acgvj beXure they ate their horses. Two rapiers,
cMie nf thetn naed by General Hamilton at the
V 1 the other bv Wm, Blacker at Derry
I ' »yne. The long-shotted gun of the
i>iAni<'«ia tight; the gong of Ghuzuee j and the
iHt added articlea to this curious collection, viz.
the loyml address of the city of Kingston, in
Caoada, to the Prince of Wales, and which was
mti preaented because the Duke of Newcastle
W0M Dot allow H.R.n. to land ; and lastly, the
Confadarate fla? of the celebrated privateer the
Sbenaadoab, wnich is said to have done more
dtalniclicm and mischief than the much -abused
^Uabama.
Ttie wx^.U rrfCarrick blacker are hung with some
tett ric portraits of the VVilliamite
fBlloo the wt^ll-kno'mi ones of the King
•od QtiMiii Mary« by Kneller^ are those of Duke
MMnberg and Do Ginkle^ Earl of Athlone ; a
eoittavpomry picture of the siege of Derry, by
Wylia; Genenl Hamilton, Governor Walker,
Ac k " ■ ut from this period so
lugel; is a very remarkable
poftnm ujfn ^vMuin [ I ui r li dissertation to itself ^ —
tibttt oC Sir Wm. Wallaco, the celebrated defender
of Scotland* It waa brought over more than three
Iwodrcd reaiB ago by a family of that name, and
cums to \hii prenent proprietor of Carrickblacker
WitK Uie remnant of a small property from his
grandmother, who bad received it in the same
way from her grRndmother, the last of that family
of the name. It is not in oil-colours, but in
frejsco varnished and ingeniously removed to can-
vass. In individuality and grandeur of character
it quite throws into shade the usual conventional
and commonplace portraits of this beio* Akok*
Old Saijdowh' Castik, Isle op Wight (4"» S.
vi. 5(Jt».) — Lord Conway was made Captain of the
l8le of Wight. Dec 8, 10:24; Lord Weston (sub-
sequently Earl of Portland) succeeded him, Feb.
8, IQIM. The authority for these statements is
Dugdale's Bmrnutije^ where a reference is given to
the Patent Rolls, 22 Jac. L, part 15, and 0 Car. I.^
part 0, respectively. Portland died in March,
16iJ5, and I see by a letter of F. Brooke of April
11 (State Papers, Cbarlea I., vol. cubtxxvi.), that
his eldest son Jerome, second Earl of Portland,
was his successor. G,
Mor5T Calvary (i^** S. vi. 642 j vii. 62.) — I
am competent to give no opinion as to whether
Calvary was a mountain or not, but I am quite
sure that Sozomen does not say it was, as stated
by Mr. Alex. B. jM'Grigor. To establish thia
point the Editor, I trust, will permit me to give
the passnge in the original. The reference is
right. The words are : —
Oi 7ip it^LKat r})¥ iKKK^mav litLlofr^s "EAAtji'**^ in
T^Kp^^aVf Kal f*s iJ^^of fjy*ipcaf ^a&i!n€po*f vwd^x**^*) ^*
teal vvy ^olverai. TTffuKa^SvTfi 5i Wpi^ itdirra t^h* ttj?
h/atmiattut x**^** *«d rod K^oytou, ^ttK6<r^Ti<rajff nal
Aiiitf T^v imtpayttoif KaTiffrpuffeuf ,* Kcd *ApfM^iTns Wth^
For the Greeks, SlrlTiog to their utmost, hy meiuiB of
persecutiou, to extlDgutsb the church in its inlaucj, con-
ccale{l that place und«r a hxLge mound of earth, Am\^ a.i
DOW appe^ira, rai^tl the ground to a greater height than
it was before. And having drawn a fence round the
entire site of the rraurrection^ and * tho placo of a »kuU '^
(CVilvary), they arranged the surface, and erected apon it
a temple to Y^nua, in which tbey placed her statue.
Not a word, aa Mr. M^Grioor will aee, of any
mountoinf or of the slighteat acclivity. The verj-^
oppo^^ite ; for prior to these operations the surfaco
was lou:er (Baetrrfpov) than it was after. So from
tbia account the natural inference must be, that
the mount was not real but artificiaL Homer
uses the kindred word kcl^vov for the top of a
mountain — ohKii^itFoio kvlo^vvv (IL n. 1G7) — whence
it is not improbfiblo that this may have given riao
to the notion of Calvary being a mowU, There i&
• By order of the Emperor Hndrian toward* the latter
end of his r«ign — somewhere about A.n. 138— when he
built the Roman citv of iElia Capitolina oo the founda-
tions of Jerusalem. He alao built a temple to Jupiter on
the Mount Zioa.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4««>S.VIL Feis,4,7L
noauiliority for ii iu any of the writings of the
New Tt';»tAmeut or tlie earlier fatbertj. As to the
teetimviny of St Cyril, it is ▼ftlat*le«a. He lived
and ^vTote loc^' ailter the trwiaaction related by
Soxoraen*
I may be permitted to mentaon that 1 hare
duo ted 'from Heading^ the best edition of Uia
Greek ecclesiastical hi^toiiaiis.
EDMtTjfD Tew, M.A.
Ooinrar SwT¥T (4»»' S. t. 66, 135, 159, 211,
305, 410.)— Mb, Swiptb's faniiljr pedipre© omy
be quite correct, but no one who is fanuiiar with
pedigrees ** certified " (not ** veritied *'} afl ** taken
fcom the records of \i\» oifico** imdor the haiid
and *eal of oilice of Sir Williajn Hethara, would
thiuk of placing implicit reliance on theni because
they werti so ** certified/' I regret to Fny that I
know pedi^ees which in eome very important
respects are pur© inventions, and were, no t with -
standing proofs to the contrary in hia office, eo
certified. In one inBtmjce the very anna recopded
wert altered without any reason whatever. These
are grave charges, but unfortunately they are
true. If the late Mr, Godwin Swift was '*c/<?
jme Viscount CarlipglV>rd,'* how did it happen
that hia right was never proved before the Uom-
mitte© of i?rivilege3 ? It la really prepodteroua to
call a mere pretender to an extinct title the right-
ful peer because, without a shadow of right, he
pertinaciously asstimed and claimed the title.
Y. S. M.
T>E8CK<rnA:?T5 OF BisHor Bepell (4**' S. t. 811'
591 ; vi. ia%)— Isabella Bedell, daughter of the
Rev* WilUam Bedel K was twice married. By her
first huaband, Baniel French, i»he had a daughter,
Eleanor French, who married John Stanford, Esq.
of Cam, county Cavan (bom IGSC, entered Trin.
Coll, Bub, Nov. 27, 1701), She married, secondly,
Tuke Stanford (who died in 173;i), his finst wife.
Tulce Stanford married, secondly, Anne Heccle-
field, and by her had (with other issue) John,
"who manie^ Elean<Tr French (as above.) The
head master ot Beaumaris GrRramar School is the
Ker, Wilham Bedell Stanford. M,A,, of Balliol
College, Oxon, great-great-grandson of John Stan-
ford and Eleanor French. Y. Sb M.
•'Dry" A9 A Local Prefix (4** a vl 163,
236, 556.)— There ia no reason to suppose that
the Celtic c/iiii i^ etyniologicallv connected with
tttmiy A.-S. tim. The literal meaning of the latter
ia an ** enclosed place," from tynmi^ to enclose ;
whereas dun U properly a hill, and may be derived
from eiv^n heap, or perhapa even from a Semitic
root. Mr. C, Uogersi says the root oidim is tlie
Sanscrit ilund^ but it would be quite aa reaaonabJo
to derive it ixom the Chioeae tm, a *^ hillock/*
B. S. CUABKOCIC,
Gray*t Ian Square,
Adaifl
whid^H
BrcBARD Tkrrtcic, Btshop of LoifBoiT 170
1777 (4*** S.vi. 501*.) — He was the eldef-t son
"^ ^ r - T \Qf of Wheldrake, and cano
, , by Ann, widow of Nnthanie
-».iM^-, i.-.|,, ui knedlington, county York, ai
daughter of John Gibson, Esq. of Wei burn,
the same county. He was baptised in ~'
Minster July 20, 1710. His wife was Ta
daughter of XVillniTn Sta.iiiforth» rector of {
hurne, c* Immberland (eldest son >
William > i, canon of York), by Franc
daughter of Uoorg« Pricket t, Esq., recorder erf
York. KOBBBX H. SkaITS.
Tlie Mftunt, York.
The amis of Terrick, as quartered <m Lord
Ilarrowby's banner in St, George's Chapel, are
thoie of the Tyrwhit family, with the adcntion of
a plain bordnre argent. Kdm13^D M. Botul
Kock Woo J, Torquay.
Dr. Terrick La *:me of those prelates of whom
Dean Milinan, in his AtmaU of 5^ I^mttT*, haa
written : —
" There wis then a rapid sooeottion of decent pr«lattf|
who no doubt dlscbar^^ tlidr fitnctiims with qujtt
dignity^ and lived tbdr blamed eas tlvcA in reaped and in
esteem,"
The following passage, extracted from
MSS. (5B47, p. 404) in the Brit Museum, in
the bishop ligures, may interest the readers
" This putJi me in mind of aaiagultfr vi»it bo (H. Wat-
pole) paia Tor an hour one SuRdar afternoon, whil^: I <
witti him, about t<?n years ago. It vran when the pre
BUliop of London was Bishop of Peterborrurgb and 1
minister of Twitrkcn ham. TIj^ %; it .v is 1m i .Tnv. wim
waaaKonianCiitholiertimi];.] t i ; ; 1 ; rlM-i-onu
and lomc Di*&eiJter». 1 reni'iil . i n.r «iio ]i;iai«
this I remember because it aAruck me, Tbe biah
«ibly might have n*.*um#il some airs which Mr. '
might think di<l ' '? one who wu* u lord <
AcetdCTt, and W' »r crcAtton. In order,
fore, to lawerni the pride of the prela
has enough of it aWut bun, I remember Mr. Waljpole I
me, on his return, for I did not attend him, thml he <
him frequently Mr. and Dr, Terriolc, ^
tify him. Purely this tvm not ri^jht or
of the bind and custom unnUeruble ha
Auch tidefl to aiich and such dignities tkaii
whoever disregards them, act^ Lko a clown
perly. I presume no one loves titleis better than 1
as will be evident to any one who Iwks over the I
tiim of the Vilin of ^itmwherry NHL, where ia I
fuliiome enumeration^ on every occasion, cd
minute titlef of all the Walpoie imuiW nnd iU i
tant alUancei*. It would have l'^-'^ *i - '*it eoa .
bred behaviour In IJisbop Terrick ;n'**ird La<1^
Walpole without the title of Lai) > idgi? toipar*
tiaily therefore, to omit civ^^ng the due title to a bnkop
eaiiiioi be jofitilled in any light.^*
Fbrt (S'* S, pam'm ; 4'^ S. vL 401 ; \n. 22,)
A note signed with a Hand mdnces m» to j
word or two an this subject.
The whole quoetioa waa debated betiTMil 1
4i^a.Txi,F™,:4»'7i,]
NOTES AND QUERIES*
105
WoamwMMo and my
ft»L Ix, in thti thi-^
▼olume '^'^' "
!'■ equence of ft QUefy
■in*? OQ p. 323 of
..JtcV My reply
vRp's at p. 470 of that
...^ replica by Me, Wood-
be fauDti in vol xi., Jan. —
DWXRD et&tod hia iMise with
groAt force ; I did my best to ^lato niiue. I haTQ
not cb&Dj^ my opimoD; I have no reason to
8tiopo8« that Affi. WoonwARD bos changed hia.
I miok it mi^ht save " Hand *^ aoiue trouble if he
would ft«d both mdes at the rotoeaisaa which I
hmr^ at>p(dkd. It would be a wt«te of hia tini«
ho go oTer tha same frround^ imleas He can gl?e
ione nvw lactt oo either view, oi on both.
M^ft&uoE OF Ti^piyrs (4^ S. v. 4^.>— A bill
\n» likjd in Chuncerv in Ireland, May 20, 167«,
%y Edward Mlli«re, Esq., and Catherine his wife
(the onlr child and heir of John Fitzp:erAld, E«q,,
of the Pecies, co, Waterford), a^rainst Richard
Earl cf Tyfftnij, unci** of Mrs, Viliiera. The bill
iiatet tfcat Mi. and Mra, Villiers bad been mar-
riad In the preceding month of [March. The earl
aofwei^ the biU^ and stated that he admitted
the pijitDlii& were maxriei aa stated —
Olh lUy, 1670, the
1
of ;
ymn o£d« And Ji4in I^jwe^ i
•ipy ftar» aiii. TIi4«t fihc c
■B4«wii*i""l>, iL Ui>r wAmt and t
Decie*,
married, by GiU>crt
■^" ^ then' Ef4:iaii«/
mm, aad hcir-
r n about $m^io€
or aboot
..... .. i iiJcounteas
eole away i*la«fietidnely ont of the
if ADgleai\>> grandfather of Viscouat
I hare no note of the decree in this suit, bat I
; i :« aecond marriage was held good, and
he formiir one invalid : for I see in the
t by 5Ir. Villitra (Brigadier-General
Rdward Villiera, elder son and heir-
»,v rui of George, fourth Vii?count Grandison)
(uThcrine had (with other i«due) John* fifth
tWount, created Edjl of prandifion, Y, S. M*
WtL TorB!^AirE5ts (4*" S. ri. 438, 6590 —
To tl- l:-r i-rtist bo added Sraitlifield, by tha
Ciliiia> lu -aurday afternoons.
J\3IE8 GlLBSSX.
h\, EiU Street* Fackham, S.E.
8m ^BiT (4"» S, Ti. 324, 307, 501,) ^
hi 3.1 r thd country, to my own personal
/ or lihffni is ufit*d its a term dedig*
J only» In the north^eaj^t distfiot
lunty, it is on© of
ij9 among the agri-
t ..n : ouL 11 i!? never employed to
, sheep* pig, or^ in fact, any Itind
-— '. -a.c iiiat of cows, oAeii^ A:i.\ An indi^
ridual Vho has ilonned any rery smart or gay
article of apparel id uftcn addreseed in a bantering
way, thufi : ** y^J^ cn^t a daah at a distanco, like
shtrni on a lea rig (ridgo)," A. PAlEESOK.
Barns ley, YurKa.
The ^' Tolgar word " at which SxEPnEX Jacksok
hints in a foot-note is much more likely to bo
connected with ^hiyot, lo Lincolnahire a cow
with diarrhcfcja is iaid to be '^ahootiuf." Cow-
Mhardt are here called '^casfioiLB'' (eastings); and
" A primrose in a caason " is a yroTerb answering
to ** A jewel of gold in a awiae s anout" In Mr.
Peacodf's linlph Skirlautjh we find a iarnier*s
Bong stacking caitmts for winter fuel, in accordance
with an old proverb respecting fuel and eoap,
which, as Mjl J ACSftON aaje, " I cau only hint at."
J. T. F,
PABonrKi^ (4*'» S. vi. Alt; vii. 15.)— I do not
know if the Book of Jiallath, edited by Boo
Gnultier, ptiblished ty Orr k Co., 184^, would
suit W. G. D. P. P*
There was a capital pan^dy on Coleridge*a
Christ^xM published about thirty-iive yeare a^
in the Enctfvhfifcdia of Anrcdote and Wit* It
coaimencr^d, I thiuk, art I write entirely from me^
mory, with-^
" Tb tea oVlodt by the caatlc dock/* fee*
or,
•' Tia ieo o'clock by tha baroa'a clock,'* lee,
\^Tio was the author f A, J, IhWKiir. '
The Patboi^tmic "-ik© " nr Noi%rH-Ki»0Lii
Place-Namm (4** S. V. hmx rl Gl, 120, 2m,
418, 500, 570.)— I thmk the following instance^
taken from deeds of the reign of Edward III.
relating to the same family and aiibject, go far to
prove the correctness of 'Ma* Atkinson's state-
ment ** that the stroke ov»-*r the vuwel denoting
Lhe omissioii of n is often omitted by old scril>ea^
and not the leagt frequMiitly in names inToWtng
the clement -in^." A name' is thus written vari-
oualy: *^de Ilomyujrwuld, de Ilomingwold, de
nomiagwold bive llomiwold. de Homiwold."
There is no stroke to denote the omi&^ion of the
n OTff, although the name is materially altered.
"'* "^ T. C. G. a
"1119 owK oriKioir was his law" (4^** S. ri.
271, 35.1, 5B2.)— With great respect for im, Tait
Ram 10 E, whose papers have always interest for
me, I submit that it is widely difierent to say of a
person that his own opinion is hb law, and that
be ** is a law unto himself." As I interpret the
ojcprosaionf, the former conyeys censure, the latter
commendation. The qm^tation from Juvenal,* as
♦ Jur.vi,'>22. Tlitlangaa(?eofa»«lf-willH imperiooi
woman to her pvnllaBinioua nxoHc*as hutfbainJ. This,
ftvsu ttie AiOhoh^, has aoraa raaaoiblaaoe : —
A woman'a wit U boubtladbff h(ct ^\W*
NOTES AND QUERIES;
[i*aVU»Fjl»,4,'7l/
applied to those from SUakeepenre and EvagritJfl,
is ftdmirably to the point ; not bo that from the
Ethics, Aaa parallel to thia one^ I think, tnigbt
fairly be given Romans ii. 14: —
Edmtjxd Tkw, ma,
P,S. In the character of the Emperor Mauricius,
BS given by Evagrius (lib. VL i.), we hftve a
splendid example of the iyKpariit = the niftn who
is ^*a law unto himself.*^ He aaya, —
TUfv itaBvf iK rrfs omtlai i^€»i}hdrrfa't ift'X'J* ' i^pnT^^ftpa,'
Tfiav 35i ^1* ro7f iavrov hgyttrpLott Karaarrjadfitpos^ {an^
apwTTJs iya^a iaurhy irap/apftra, itpht ^pafii¥ i»arai~
Henceforth he made it his btisinesa not only to adorn
his person, but more eHi^ecially bb mind, with regal dig-
nities. For lie alone, of all who had ret vrora the purple,
fitrove rJgOTOUfllyto rule himself; and 05 became his bi^b
position, while baTiidhing frotn his mind all evil nft'ec-
tions, to school himself in evuvy virtue, and thus to be-
come A living example for the imitation of bisiiubjects.
Atjkora Borealib (i^^ S. t1. 495.) — The fol-
lowing narralion occurs among " Pmdigiea in the
Heavena," in a work entitled :— ^
•'Mirabilia Annua Seeundua; or, a Second Year of
Prodigiea: being a tine and impnJtial Collection of many
strange SioifES and ArrAniTioNs v Uic b have this lost
;f ear been seen in the Heavens, and In tbe Earthy and in
the Waters," 4to. Printed in the Year 1662.
" The Heavens all on Fire.
"At Lewet in Sussex, Juno 1ft, 16G1* about t!irf»e of the
clock in tbe morning divers person;! observing a more than
ordinan- li^bt, being then in their beds, presently rose^
and looking oi^, they perceived the whole visible hemi-
Bphcre on every side to be a$ it were on fire, tbe colour
whereof seemed to be more inclining to a blood-red than
the ordinary dame colour.
" At the aame time aXm, at a town called Bawcomb,
about twelve or fourteen miles from Lewes, a person of
f|iiality, being in bed, perceived so great a light in hh
chamber that he verily thougbt his bams and out-
hoof^e^ hnd been on fire; but when be arose and looked
forth, be saw, as he conceived, the hcavena on fire, iu tbe
aame dreadful manner m h before expressed. This is
attcf^trd by cye-witneaaes in both places, and a thing fre-
quently and commonly spoken of in those parts."
William Bates.
Birmingham.
Lord Btrok *8 " English Bari>9," etc. (4"» S.
Ti. m, 449, 480, 654 ; ^ii. 23.) -~ I am qnit«
cognizant of the sentence quoted by Mb. J. A.
PiCTONj but it doBs not alter my opinion of Mont-
gomery's Wamicrer of Switzerland^ and of the
lUBtice of the Edinburgh reviewer's critique.
Tiyron's dicta on poet« are of amall Talue. He
found the Faenj Queen of Spenser rery dull He
eaid In Leigh Hunt, '* Take him awiyi I 6nd
nothing iu him." This was eaid on returning to
belfl
Hunt that immortal allegory. In one of Byron^
notes to Don Jucm we find '* Cowper was
amiable man, btd no poet,'* Byron olew hot
cold, ua it suited hia humour. The iir»t editio
of Jiimini was " a reaity ^ood potrn,'* Afterwardi
he discovered that ** never were ao many fine
things Bpoilt as in liimini: " and, aa a cIimaX| he
could write-^
»* 0 Gemini !
What a niinini pimitll
Story of Rimini 1 "
Many of Byron's " great guns ** are now hel(
in Blight esteem, while other writers that
bespattered with fscurrility, particularly Coleridg
Wordsworth, and Southey, have risek in publi
eetimation. " Stupid " Grab ame, too, ia an in-
stance of the latter class, I know no modern
foem more truly beautiful than The Sahhath^M
t well merits the^praiaes bestowed upon it h|^|
t)i6 lute Professor Wilson, It is very popular m
Scotland.
Mr, Pictox says The Chitrch and Wanmnjf
pan ** was not a tract.** I can merely say ths
the only copy I ever saw was an 8vo paniphlei
It waa in the handa of o bookseller of the ** llow,^
who has retired from business, I called it
tract becauae it had hardly pages enough to
dignified with the name of pamphlet PerhAfl
my tract was Mr. PiCT0ir*8 ** siureptitious
tion " : 1 believe it was so*
I beg to assure Mr. Picton that I am a very
great admirer of " the real Montgomery/* aa_
Wilson once called him ; but mr admiration
The World before iAe Flood and The Peh'c
Island does not blmd me to the imperfections i
the Wanderer, I saw them long before 1 kne
Switzerland, and with my present acquaint-ano
with Helvetia I see still more the puerile absu
dities of Montgomery's " wanderings,"
Jam^ HEyRT DixojrJ
Lausanne.
PuKNiya AND Jesting on Names (4**» S, \u
581.)— Chief Ermikb has spoilt the puns wh
he admires by reTersing the speakers* Sir Wi]
liam Dawes, Arehbiahop of York, was lamentu
that the clergy who viisited him would not '
things in such good order as in the time of hff
beloved Mar}-. ** She was, indeed, mar*: padjl*
pw»n,*' to which a curate rejoinea — "True, m]
lord, but she was mare mortuum first*'
In 1715 was a total eclipse of the sun, follow
in a fortnight by an eclipse of the moon. A f
asked his grace if he had seen the eclipse of
moon* ** No/' said he, ** mv chaplain saw tha
/ saw the eclipse of tbe aun.^* W. Oj
Has not Chief Ermi:^e taken the point out i
this story by inverting its details ? I nave nb
heard itthus: —
" Sir William Dawes, Archbishop of York, wat
f&nd of a pun. Hia clergy dining with htoi for Uie ftnk
' ' ' : hi3 lady, he tt»Id them hefeft/ed
in 30 gotnl order as thejif lued to
, [ Mary ; and, looking eAtrcmelj
iwrrowful. «diied wiUa a dc«p ftigb, * she was, indeed, mare
Ifhftan* A curate, who pretty well knew what she
been, lodd, 'Aye, mT loni, btit she was wiare wor-
k fiiBt.' "-^See Mark Lemoo'is Jest BooJty No. lu3t>,
-i
The pyn on the name of Winter is equalled, I
think, by the following : —
" Admirfil Dancan's addreiia to the officers who cftrao
CO boATd bU ship for in struct ion* previouri to the «ngnge-
raoit with Admiral d€ Winter was both Ia conic amJ
hom^rous : ' Gentlemeo, yoa bc« a severe Winter up-
BtotchJng ; I hare only to adviee yoa to keep up a good
i«L' '"^UkL No. 1255.
W, Spabbow SmrsoK,
f pim I ever be&rd was made on Lord
JJ, one of WelliDgton'd aides at Water-
il'j waa renowned for bin conversational
After a dinner party^ at which be had
witfc unusual hrilliancy, aome one remarked
of bim, *' It will be a great pity when his mother
lUet.'^ 4f Why ? " " Because now be ia a plea-
mat flill ; then he will be Baron Sandys.'^
A similar play on Dames waa the following : —
Mr, Falls, a well-known Iri^h eportaman, hap-
pen^d unfortunately one day to ride down a
nonnd. The irascible but witty master attacked
him in no rery meaBored lang^unge. ** Sir/* waa
the nrplVi " X*d hare you recollect that I am Mr*
Falift of Dungannon." The answer was ready : *'I
don't care if you were the Falb of Niagara; you
aha"Q*t ride over my hoimda/'
FiTZ KlCHABI),
Saibbbuck Custom (4*'' S. vi. 477.)— Your
correppondent A.S. asks if any reader of **N. & Q/'
u throw any lijfht upon the history or exist-
of customs similar to that observed at Saar-
ick ? I hare read and heard of such customs,
but I must confess that I have never previou.'^ly
!iK.%ril rS nn application of the protecting iniluence
s^hs to railway cnrria^ea. The ** march
must account for this.
To hang branches by the doors of houses is an
iodent and was a popular custom. Thus I read
*t p, 133 of a small anonymous book entitled A
SkH Account of the Ciiy and Close of LklifiM^
fe vhuih u added a Short AccQurtt of the CathcdraL
1831;- "^
*Tt WIS a cuatom on A«ccu9lon Day for the clergyman
•f Uic parish, accomnanicd by the churchwanlena and
•teMnpn, and fuUowed by a concourse of children bear-
Uf petn Ijotighs, to repair tri th*^ different reservoirs of
*st<r, »iid there read the gusjiel fi>r the davr after which
:>^;^aled with cakes and ale ; during the cere-
or of every hooso waa decorated with an elm
"■•'K", AC. 4e*
Further: I am informed that in the village
of Uyland, Lancashire (which village ^ves its
^e to the hundred ia which it is located),
pYevBil«d a custom (my informant believes
cone
^^^uBan
^piffud
on May Day) of the following nature : — The vil-
lagers "would hang by the doors of the better
known or more notorious inhabitauts boughs of
tree.^, the different shrubs or trees having varied
aigniticatious, and speaking aa to the popular re-
pute, good or evil, of the dweller in the tenement
BO decorated. Tins was nearly half a century
ago, and I should be glad to learn —
1 . Whether such practice is still in vogue.
2. The emblematic meanings of the variouB
treest
Again, we have the May Day custom of sus-
pending hawthorn bo ugh a by doors.
Thomas Tuixy, Jxtbt.
Baptism fob the Dead (S'"^ S. vii. 38 ; 4^** S.
v, 424, M4, GGo.)— 8o much has already appeared
on this quattio vexatn in the pages of **N, & H^
that I am surprised none of your correspondents
referred to the interpretation inserted in the
Gent. Mag, vol. xlix*, as proposed in part by an
eminent divine, Bishop Fearce, and further sup-
ported by a no less eminent critic, Isaac Reed.
It is, in my opinion, worthy of resuscitation in
this ^uxh% tar^fW, although it has at great length
been revived in the Journal of Sacred Literature^
V. 396-414; arid I shall, with your permiasion^
supply the interpretation referred to in an abridged
form, and as Buccilictly as the subject will admit
The commentator shows that $awrli'ffTBatt sig-
nifiea to die a violent death by the hands of per-
secutors, and the critic adds the precise idea of
Mp Twv viKpQ^j which in this place means those
to whom the gospel was preached (those who sat
in darknesa and the shadow of death), and upon
whose account the preachers of it sufi'ered: —
"The interpretation hero proposed is not only in per-
fect accordance with the word of God at large, with Ih©
Ifloguftge and Miitiments of St. Paul him*elf in other
piirts of hi9 epiatks, with the train of rea.'ioninR pur-
sued in the chapter in which these worda are found, «id
with the sense of the word."? elsewhere scpftrately and cun*
ncetively; but all the artTimentfl aclJuced in its support
have been drawn from theae sources, thuii which nono
can be more legitimate or better entitled to deference?
rach of them posaesses in itself some stretit^th, and com-
bined, they appear to prove that the Apostles are the
pcrsatm here spoken of as baptized— that the baptism
referred to is that which our Saviour annoitnced as their
portion (Mark x., Luke xii.) ; and that by the dead are
niennt the people of God, the body of Chrifttians in the
ttpoMoli« limes who were letl bv the Apoalles to con-
sider themaelvM dead* and to lead them to do which
they enilured that afflict ivo baptism ; and finally, that
these words in thia sense ore well adapted to sum up a
powerftil appeal like that of the Apostle, &s dencribing
in the condticl both of tho«« who preachfid nnd thoic who
received the Gospel, if there was no resurrection, a depth
of infatuation and an extent of folly perfectly unac-
counUblc. ^ Their life' in this case * would have been
madness* indeed, ' flud their end without honoiir. —
( Wmhm of Sohmon}, K K. in journal, <ftc,
Bibliothecab. Chitiham.
108
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«i»aVII,F«».4,Tl*,
St. Lkoxabd (4"* S. ri. 371.)— 1» tJbia te^ly
(by the Kditftr) we are told that there wt?n» two
saints of the tiame : one h^ing abbot of Vaudoouvre,
the other abbot of Tvoblac, Is there anything in
ihe ludtory of this *^ pair of saints '* to accouiit
for ihttt eitreme popularity with our forefathers,
lietekeiitid by the vast number of places called
afttsr them throughout tbe leng'th and breadth of
this ialaiid ? Noell Radecliffe.
''Vkettas ur Pfteo^' (i"* S. ri. 474.)-:Thifl
saying of Bemocritua (who died B.C. 357) is, so
far as I have been able to discover^ first given by
Cicero in his Academics (i. 10), supposed to have
been written about B.C. 45: **Naturam accusa,
quse in profundo veritatenii ut ait BemocritUB,
penitua abstnrsorit/' Possibly Seneca [Beit^fic*
Ti. 28) h&fi it in hia thoughts^ when he saysi
"Invokta Veritas in alto latet" Dr. Waloott
('* Birthday Ode ") refers to it: —
•* The Rages say, dame Tnith delights to dwell —
Stmngo mmnsion — in the bottom of a well.'*
Goethe, in his MaxitFts (iii. 100, ed, Stuttgart,
1840)^ speaks of Truth with the same allusion: —
** Der Irrthum bt viel Icichtcr m erkennCTi, ala die
Wnbrhett ztt findcn; jenet liegt anf der Oberdache, dmnit
liist M«h wobl fertig werden ; diese ruht in der Tieii^
daoadi stt fonehca lat nicht Jedermami* Sache."
Thef« is a Tery pretty idea in Don QidjeoU
(t. 10), which eeems to refer tto Truth being in a
well: —
^ 1a vordad tdelgaxa^ y no quiebra, y ertempre anda
aobrv la tucniim^ como ci aiterte ssobre el agua.'^
"Truth may be stretched cmt lliialy» but there can be
no rcatf and it always gets abuve faJUebood at oil Joes
ab»ve wuter."
I have never seen the proverb in any Greek
writer* Among the sayings of Democritus quoted
by Diogenes Laertiua it does not appear. Can
any one give a passage where it occurs in a Greek
writer? C. T. IUmage.
CccrMiiKR (4"' S. Ti, 474; vii. 19.)--Gberkm
ia from the Swed. tfurku =Teut. mvclie^ a cucum-
ber, mnre particularly a amflil cucumber for
lacklin^. Some assert the word a corruption,
through the T., of the Latin cucurbita, 1. J. J.
The naeanirig of gherkin, inquired for by P. P.,
ia, little cucumber; from fffirke, a cucumber, in
Gennan. The Butch have the word affurhje^ The
terminal w, I take it, is a diminudve; and it
would seem probable that aU words tu'e allied :
cf. cHCurbita *= hamcoorde « gourd. A» H.
J. P. asks why young cucumbers are called
gherkiiMf and for the etymology. The pickled
cucumber or gherkin id probabfy of German or
Dutch origin, and the word gherkin seema to be
from the German ff^trhe^ a cucumher; or the
Dutch optrhje^ tfurk/e, rendered ** a smftll pickled
cucumber/' Wachtt-r thinks fftirke^ kurke may bo
derived irom its cun'ed fehap*^; **Xam Celtica
lingoa atfreea eatourvuii, inctu ! !:• Boa!
in Xat. Ant, Brii» Succia * kr nintm
eurvare, ot krack curvus. Vai: , ^u* nomeli
Latinum a atrvore conatur dcd a. . i . , [ lauisia ntia
violenter, utpote litera H in m^-dio Jcsllttttum.'^
Ihre aays the Su.-Goth. gvrka may be from im-
ffuria (med. Lat, anffitriust)^ "quod erat cucuniia
sativi genus,^^ &c. Sec; but he thinks it may aUo
be from the Slavonic, the Poles usinff o(/urtTk for
a cucumber. The Bohemian word i^ akwu
The probable derivation of the different fijrma
the word in the Gotho-Teu tonic and Blavoni
lauguagea^ aa well as of the modem French
is from the Lat. cucurbila, Roquefort, uni
*^coucourde, couhoure,** refers to coords, coori
coow'de^ courdmfe (found also CQUccurd»\ wbii
he renders *' citrouille, calebaase, euemrhita ; m
Languedoc, eouffourhj coiujoitrdu*^*
Grajr*! Ian.
A Jacobite BcmQi Coor-FiOHmrs, etc, (4'
S. Ti. 543.) — I quote the followiug from a -ffi* '
of Kinttfte, by Peter M*Litoah, (Tbiid
Campbeltown^ 1870) :—
" In those days (a century ago and later) the tdkooiU
masters being ill remu&er&Ced for their Uboar, and •eho^
feei being very low, the teadier daimed ' ""
oiabHng on Condletnas day, il beisg an old cvataai ;
the pares ts of the children took a groat iutercat In
day, making an cfiTart to provide the seholans with m
thing hand^me to offer to their teacher ; and to aniiiiata
the children, a cock-fight was proposed, with other atanse^
ments»'*
In fiome lines of verse that follow, the author
tells us of the delight of the boys in preparing
their birds^ and giyea a descriptioa of a figbt, eoa-
cluding thus : —
*' AH thoae who die in the great fi^ht.
The master cUIiua them oa his nghL**
Furtber on he tella ua that —
"The teacher collected his oiKsring, and thai ^ .
girl who gave most received the onvicid title of Rii^ i
Queoti, which title they bad the honour of canyiQ^ to
the first day of May."
D. MAOFiua,
Piu*lcy.
CAifCAK (4"* S.vl 455, 558.)—*^ A French"
MAir" does not seem to have seen the
danced lately m the Jardin Mabille of Fa
Tivoli at Hambm'g, or in the public ga
Berlin, else he would not have ventured to de
its decenc\% It maybe interesting to your readti
to know that the canean, aa danced by a Fr
woman, formed the chief source of the
ment of the Berliuers up to, and even i
declaration of war. The cylinders for i
inents in the Unter-der-liudeu continu<*d
covered with invitations to tee this la^Bcivii
dance for three or four daj-s after war
clared, up to the time that they wer»> re<|y
by tbe ga^«fiiment for advffftiaMiieDta calHa|f \
frtiS.VILFEiJ.i^TL]
NOTES A^D QUERIES.
109
Hi^ Landwehr and WAntm^ pltsoda to work in
ilia aneBalA, ood liU the a^ui-OaUicBa feeling
ik^: - ^ i ihe ntiiste to retrent.
1 16 « t. qiitmqtmjn, although.
acLi^'t^ ^'t ..4JL. x^iiddle Agefi the pronim^
^ tbia woed wna the subject of fierce
eoaiestioa, one partj pronouocing it canctm and
Hm other $ttff»^»3 ; hence it came to signifj
tiUle-lBltky ^OAsip, fiduidalj undue familiaritj,
^c J. II.
*» JlrC LITII^R K.^T IX QUO," ETC. (!*'* S. llL 5(K3.)
Til* »itliior of thi« k inquired for by Mk^Wauoh,
who will find tho anrvrer in your columna given
Irr J* a (-2** B. i. 14<3). The Author i^ Wohrenfels,
iTOftwor of r^ivinity at Basle in the early part of
thm l»8t century. One of your correspondenta, M»
(I* S. 3d. 73), furnbhea a translaticm ; lufiy 1 sug-
gest a better?—
*vHcrein do seetA of even' kind
For their own doctrines look;
And just lu enrely do ihry find
TbMB doctrio^ ia Lbe book."
W. T. IT.
^2111 FoBFrnTTTEis (4'* S. Ti, o4i5.)— Probnbly
one of tlie books relating to the Irish forfeitures
of 16^, of which Mr. MAa.EAN is in search of, i&
A i7«o^' of P(ijitinfj$ mui Sale of Forfeited Eaiates
m Irvland, now in the Bntiah Museum ] the date
il ITOS^ and there ia a MS. index of the pur-
cliift^n* namcj appended to it. There ia a g«od
dMi nf iTif«:krmittio!i on tho same subject in the
Jb-ruirt* i.t fl.- i \^mm\Uionvr& of Public Recordu in
L 'i)^ the third volume of which
IT' J of Grants of Lands, &c., under
tk« Acta of .Settlement and Eiplnnotion, a,d.
l68B-h>S4;'^ and, as well as I remember, ab-
llh«ti from oanvsyanees of the forfeited estates
nf 16»^. The littter estates were sold at Chiches-
''dlege Green, Dublin, in or before the
y trustees appointed for the purpose.
C. S. K.
St Petftr'a Sqaarpi Hamttersmithj Vi\
^'^ S, V. 580 J vi. 78, 183.)— The
itjation qftke Sctijjitural Clainu of
fAt £',.,/, by Ku^seU Scott, 1S22, has been attn-
l*ut€<i in your pages to Dr. Barr of Liverpool,
Hm this gt^ntleman written oo both sides of this
^UtA qtiestion, seeing that A Letter to the Hev.
^mtr^ MarsiM , . . 1820, has been aLeo assigned
to htm bj Mb* Bjltxs at tJie last reference but
one f IIakbow.
BooE dF Comma^x Vbxtsr (4** S. vi. 43*5, 500.)
I Wt a PrayeT*l>oak of the same kind : —
•Lnj<bD, pfinU'd by John ^attketf. Printer to the
ata^'t lloal EjTCfllciit Mijestn and by the A5fi.isi» of
'«»« Mtmamh, and Hefuy ^ilU, decctfla'd. iTlV
u U in Its original black calf gilt bioding, and
w Wnd with it '* A Companion to the Altar/*
Iwid. iVrker, Bible and Cpowd, Lombard Street,
1721), and "Stemhold and Hopkins^s Pdalms"
(printed by Sus. Collins for the Company of Sta-
tioners, 1713.) It contains many coarsely executed
plates. Tho frontispiece ia a portrait bf Iving
Ueorge; *' Joseph's Dream'' is in the carpenter's
shop with tools about. The iUnstration to ♦* Gun-
powder Treason '* is an eye in the clouds sending
a column of rays on to Guy Fawkt58*3 hand as he
is carrying his lantern by night to a conventional
parliament hou-^. Mj^ copy is very neatly ruled
throughout with red hues. J» T* F.
Vese: Fbesb (4^ 6. tI. 105, 4^1, 553.)— In
this interesting discusaion it will be well not to
lose sight of tke woidfeazed^ ineaniug untwiHteJ,
unravelled, bein^ the verb of feaze, from T. feu it,
also faj\ the hair of tho headi same as, and per-
haps derived from tho Cl./«i', S./<?x, T, ffths, all
meaning hair, or fibres of flax ; thus we have
Fairfax: but I quite fail with Joirs Addis in
seeing a connection with/<?^r». T. Jerbmiah.
yiB» Add 13 concludes his article on this word
with the following sentence: — ^*IIow far the
' ravelling ' and * driving away ' meanings are to
be connected, I do not see." Wedgwood says
that the two main senses of the word are, ^* 1, to
whip, cbastisef harass; and 2^ to ravel out tho
end of a rope^'f and Ms. Addis acknowledges
that "to beat,*'. and "to beat into lliglit," are
meanings not difllcult of reconcilement* If he
had remembered that the whip most in use among
sailor?* is a rope's end, I do not think he would
have found muck difficulty in connecting the two
meanings. The nautical meaning of the word
feazi* may, after all, be the primary one, and the
whippiny or driung away only secondary,
E* M*a
Qaeniscy.
HlPPOnUTBS AJTD HoMCEOrATHT (4*** S. VlL
54/)~G. E.'s communication appeared in *'N. &Q*"
3'=" S. ix. o^ without eliciting a reply. Hahne-
mann obserTea that —
" The atithor of the book iri^l T<fira>K rOtv if or' Mpuneotrf
which U among the ^rritiags attributed Ut Hippocratea^i
has the following remArkftble w©rd»: — ^^ rh B^m
ifoiMras ylvtratf xal ilk Tft tfMMWpwr^ptpvfifva iic ¥oatvf^
rav vymitfai^at, gc*^, *' By similar things diseftse is pitH
ducedr and by «uui]ar tbiogf^ Adminbtertuj to thf5 sicki
they are heolt^d of ilmt diseases, Thiia tl»c s&mn tUtni^ \
whtdi will produce a strangury, whea it does not e:\bCy
villi remove it whtiii it does.**
The?e aetitiments are thus expressed by Coma*
riu9 in his translation, in 1504: —
"Per sjmilia morbus fit* Pt per ^imilta adldbita em
morbo sanantur. Velut urin»; *tilh idturn idemfurii af-i
non ait, el at mt itUm 9edai" HippueraieK, Ojpem. JuaO^
Comario interpret*, 1W4, pp. 87* 88. Quoted by Win,
Sharpi M.D., iu 7 met* cm Mtfmmopathy, Ko. 1, p. 1-
J. Yeowixi.
Bows AND CT7KT8ET9 (4**' S. Vl. 568).— M. D.
a&ka for the first record of the curtsey. Is it not
no
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«^ S, TIL Fits. 4, 71. '
in GeneflU xU. 44J ? " And he made him [Joaepli] i
to ride in the socond chariot wliich he had j ana
they cried before hira, Bow the kneey The curtsey
■wfta formerly used by the male as well as the
female aex* E. V*
IvEsijmjLABtK OccxmBENCB 10 Bells (4*** S, vi.
384, 4G7, 48G.)— When the Koyal Exchange was
hurat down a few years since, 1 remember the
Qcwspaperfl telliog u^, bb a curious coineideuce,
that the Ia.^t tune the bells in the clock chimed
ero they fell was, " There's nao luck aboot the
hoose.*' I cannot vouch for the fact, but unly
for rending it, P. P*
MANcn^TEU Chap-Book8 (4*'» S. Ti. 330, 4CC,)
A few remarks on the list (p. 4<J0) may be accept-
able. The Shepherd of Salisbmi/ Plain is from the
Cheap Repository Tracts of Hannah More* The
Ohl Woman of liatcUffe Highway was one of the
old Aldemiary chap-books ; it is a curious bit of
noiL^cnse from beginning to endj in the same atyla
as Footers **Ha died, and she very imprudently
married the barber " {vide " N. & Q/' 3'^ S. iv. 187,
237.) However, it must not be forgotten that
the •* old woman ** was laid under her " wooden
ft tone " lonff before Foote was bom. Washington
Irving and many others introdace a ** wooden
tombstone," hut the earliest instance that I know
of such a meiTu^nto mttri is the one in The Old
Woman of Ratcliffe Ilighwm/.
The Ment/ Piper is 8 modem version (but not
a very modern one) of Th^ Friar and Bot/j which
was reprinted by Ritson. The Merrtf Piper is in
tolerably smootfi ballad metre, and con tains a few
laughable incidents that are not in the old ver-
t<ion. Mr. Swindells presented me with a copy
of this chap-book, and with an old edition of
part I., apparently printed about a century ago,
Tummus and Meart/ is from Tim Bobbin's (Col-
lier) Lanca^ire Dialect,
jbftcks and \greeti] Peas^ or the Kewcastie Bider,
ia a Newcastle story founded on a domestic inci-
d*^nt in the old northern family of Cookaou. The
Tabic* Book of Eichardson gives full particulars.
There is an interlude on the subject that has often
been acted in the north-country theatres. The Kitiq
atid the VMler, Tom Hivkathrift, Dofior Fattsfus,
JVu-oti^i Prophecie8, Simple Sitfim, Tom Thumb —
all these (except Nixon) were Alderniary tracts,
and are well known.
Honest Jiihn and Loving Kate is new to me.
What is it about ? Several of the othen^ named
by Mn, Hareisok^ are evidently mere abridg-
ments of popular and well-kiiowii works, and do
Bot call tor any remarks. Tbere was another
Manchester chap-book printer, who had the re-
markable name of Shelmerdtne. I think there were
two, father and son. Has Me. Harbison any of
the Shelmerdine prints P
jAKJsa H^nRY DixoF.
TirLERs OF SuGAB (4*** S. vi. SCO,) — Loaf 5U(^
is put up in lare-e lumps caJled '' lumps/' weig-hina
twenty or thirty pounds each, and in smnu
sugar loaves, with which every one id familiaij
But there is a loaf of intermediate si^e, we|g~ '
about ten pounds, and these loaves are
" titlers," F. ai
** TiXLER : A Urge truncated cons of refined auirar/'—
See Webster's Dictionary t reviMd by Goodridi anil
Porter.
A. S. W. ,
Ross OF WiGTOXSTIIKB (4*** S. vL 569.) — Yo
correspondent will find three generations of th
lloases of Balkaii in a sheet pedigree of the farrtiljj
of Freer, which appeared in the Mifcellane'
Gemalogica, Some copies of this pedigree wen
Erintcd separately, 1 believe Mr, Huasell SuiitT
as some lor sale, F. M. B« j
Anciju^t BtnLDTiros rs Kashmtr (4»*" S.
627,) — When the snake is in a horizontal p<i8iti(i
it has the same meaning as the lingam — phallusjjj
f e> creative or '' vital energy." A circular sua'
is emblematic of eternity. Querist should con
suit the writings of Payne Knight, Godfrey Ilig
gins, and Ilenry 0*Brien; also, *^ Priftpeia iiwi
dii^ermrum poctarum tn lYiapum histfiff iHtiMru'
comment. G, Shoftpi^ Ihtnci^ *fec^ Patavii, 10tJ4,l
I cannot say more or be more explicit on such
subject. As to the passsge in Gen, iii, consult (
leanied work by the Ilev.^Ir. Rendell of Prestoij
The Antediluvian Histojy of the World,
Stephjkn JACJLSoy*]
Gipsies in Ireland (4"^ S. vL 527,)—" Twent
five years ago there were many gipaes to I
found between Londonderry and Belfast/' (Sin
Bon*B Histonj of the Gip$ieSf p, 358, n.) In '
above-named work frequent mention is made <
Irish gipsies, W, K* Df"'™'*"
AtlkCDo^um, M&Qcbester.
BELL-RmoiXG (4*'' S. vi, 507.) — When I was
an undergraduate at Cambridge, more years ago
than is pleasant to contemplate, two of the churches
there had a peal of three belts each, which
spectively did duty for four. One was rung i
this order^l, 2, 1,'3, with very good e0ect, Th
other had the third bet I cracked^ and made tbi|
music — " ding dong ding thud f^* With the el
ception of the glorious peal at Great SL Mary*l{|
and one or two tolerable besidea, Oaoibridgc wa
and still is, wretchedly furnished with chu
bells, the greater number of churches having on
one or two each. The Abbey Church has lateli
received a present of two bell^, and if the oriRinii
use of bells was to frighten away the evil apiritr
as some say, then these two bells ought to
most eJBcacious for the purpose, for the tno
frolicsome of the imps of Beelzebub, even ** Cob|'*
*'Mob;' and *^ Chittabob;* of the IngoUdy JU^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Ill
would be ** off in A crack '* aa booh as the
Jtiyglo of theae belb reached tholr ears, 17. S.
AnMs OP TUB Counts of Perche (4** S, vL
54:^/)— The arms attributed to the house of Be-
leanae are, Bendj or and azure* Rotron, Count
of Perche, was the son of Geoffrey, and (it ia
Bttpposed) grandson of Gui^rin or Warine de Be-
lesm© ; i^^hich Warine was brother of William de
Belesonei eui-named Talvahe^ who^e only child,
Mabely married Roger de ^Montgomery^ Earl of
Shrewabnry.
Batroii'0 friandson, alao named Rotron (son of
1ms sod Geoffrey, by Beatrice de Roiicy), married,
Ut h\a first wife, Maud, a natural dau|rhter o(
Kiofr Henrr I,; and for his second^ Hawyae,
dftogbter of Walter de Salisbury^ by Sibilla, the
w«0iuned daughter of iVrnulph de Ilesding. Sand-
tord, in his Genealogical History^ calld Rotron the
"aflu of Amalph de Hesding^y fir^t Earl of Perche/'
tod Burke, in hia Vmtaiion of Stats and Arvi^y
iL 61, aaeert* that a family now called Hedding
ara descended from Amulpn^s son Kotro, Ear! of
Perche, by hia aecond wife, ** a Saxon lady."
Both tiiese etatemeiita are, however, erroneous ;
Car it ia Tery clear that Amulph de llesding waa
not the father of Rotron Earl of Perche.
The Nugent family are also 8l4vted by Burke
iPiTT^ijr, art. '' Weatmeath*') to ha descended from
t^ I if BelesmOp their immediate ancestor
I ■ rt de Nogent, son of Fulke and grand -
* 1 jt ifc'jtron I., Count of Perche and Lord of
N jent de Rotron. This Fulke married* it \s
r. J, NfHtildft, daughter of Gilbert de I'Aigle ;
til.: i' tj aay, his ^rand-nieca, for Gilbert's wife
Julmutt was the daughter of Fulke 'a brother Geof-
iivY, (See Ordertcits VitalU.)
1 bejr to refer your correspondent to a very able
id inU^re>jting paper on Arnulnh de Heading by
llr. Eyton, the historian of Saropahire, in T/te
Btrald and Oeneahfftjst, vi. 241, and alao to an
irticle ID the third volume of the same periodical,
h 173, by H. J. G.
BoOI ORWAStENTATTOW (4''* S» VI, 507.) — I beg
to inform F. M. S. that in our family library there
i*fl volume appropriately ornamented with a land-
on the edges of the leaves, which is only
111' when they are slanted. The leaves are
!i 1 .nit The book is supposed to have been
^ ill l>etw^n forty and fiity years ago at the
i : of Taylor k Ileasey. If the sight of this
' - would be of any interest to your correspon-
dent, I could offer it to him in a few weeks.
A, a
F* M, S, may be interested in a volume in my
P^^lnesion entitled Poemt and J?a*fli/*, by the late
Mi^iBuwdler. The sixth edition, published for
^benefit of the General Hospital at Bath^ 1788.
"bea slanted, a very pleasing picture is presented
of ft tropical landscape, and a very great Tariety
of shades is formed by widening the slant of the
edges, I shall bo pleined, if your correspondenl
wishes to consult my specimen, to place it at hir
disposal, ' J» W. Jarvis.
Vi, Charles Square, HoxtoOf N.
Half a story ia worth little, and Ks I have for-
gotten the binder's name, it \s but half a story.
However, there was a bookbinder near Leeds or
Skipton about seventy years since celebrated for
this style of ornameotation. I have seen a beau-
tifully drawn storm at sea on a Falconer's ^(p-
ttrcckf and a landscape on another volume. It
was only when the gilt edges were 'slanted that
the pictures were seen. When the book was shut .
they were invisible, I have tried to do this on i
gilt book, but it showed a little. My notion la
that the edges were cut, then sloped and drawn
on, and then gilt The designs were coloured
pi-operly. P. P,
" Let them teak him," etc, (4^ S. vi. 509,) —
The poem from which 'A, 0. V. P, quotes, not
quite correctly^ is called '* The Mfirtynlom of
Mariua/' and is contained in a little book entitled
Aunt Jitnes Vtr»eA for Children, by the late Mrs,
T. Crewdson of Manchester, The book was out
of print some time ago. E, M,
Uotham, Bristoi
"DOLOPATHOS; OB, TEE KlT^G AND THE SeTEhI
Wise Men (4*^ S. vi, 544.)--I take the following!
notes from Thomas Wrigbt's introduction to The
Seven Sat^cs (Percy Soc), which is abstracted from
M, Loiseleur Deslongchampa's .Essai swr le4 Fables
ludienmny etc, (18:i«J.
The original Indian romance is named Sendabad,
after its author. The Arabian historian Maasoudi
says that this writer was a contemporary of a
King Courou, In Mossoudi^a time (died A.i. U50)
there were Arabic and Persian translations of the
romance. Two Oriental writers cited by M, L.
Deslongchampa state that it was composed under
the I'crsian dynasty of the Arsacides i^&.c* 250 to
A,D. 223.)
From the Indian original are derived —
A. The Arabian romance, The A'lw^, A« Son,
the Fai'uttrite, and the ^Seven Viziers (translated by
Jonathan Scott, 18CH)).
B. The Hebrew romance, The Parables of Sen-
diibar,
C. The Greek romance, Stjiitipas,
The date of these three is unknown.
From B (which is at least aa old as the end of
the twelfth century), it appears, was derived the
prose Lntin romance liistoria s^em mpientum
Mom^ej by John, monk of the Abbey of Haute-
Selve (early thirteenth century) ; through which
version the' work was communicated to nearly all
the languages of Western Europe.
From this Latin version Herbert or Hebert, a
tiouvere of the thirteenth century, tuade a very
Hi
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Cl**aVU. F«B-4,7U"
fi«o tranFlfttiou in French verse, which ]§ best
known br the title Dohjmthm, tie name of the
kinfr who is father of th« liero of the poem*
Kiir details I refer K. K, W. Eu.is to^Mr.
Wright's preface.
The romance in ftll it^ forms ia a collection of
Btoriw connected together hy thia pround-plot
A prince, falsely accused hy one of his father'a
wives of having o&ered her violence, is defended
by seven phUoeophers. who tell stories showing
up feminine malice and perveraity. The wife has
hor turn at 9t*'»rytcllinfr in antwer to each of the
philo^^ophers ; and the iiniil result ia the triumph
of the princess iusoceooe.
The separate stoHtsa Taiy ccDsiderahly in the
dilFerent versiona. JoHJf Addis.
Bkait Swtft : Lo5T>ok Chttrcitf^ (4** S. yi.
569. WThe Gmtleinan's Mogmm^, toL liv, part 2,
p. 499, contains a list of thta tilVy new churches
built in London hy Sir Christopher Wren, with
the co^t of each church. At p. 507 it is stated,
** the churchea^ of which you gave a liat, were not
the fifty new onea, for hardlv any oi those were
built so early, but of churches rebuilt by Sir
Christopher 'Wren after the fire." The anony-
mous writer ftdded| *' I think it ia to be found in
the ParenUtUa." Che. Cooke.
By Act of Parliament, fifty new churches were
ordered to be erected to replace those destroyed
in the Great Fire, aod the rebuilding in this
instance was to a great extent, if not entirely^
entrusted to Wren. In the tenth year of Queen
Anne's reign, however, another Act passed for the
erection of fifty more, the object being not merely
to remedy the insuJHciency of accommodation
aflbrded by the then existing churches, Irut abo,
in the words of the commission appomt^id to carry
out tbe Actj the ** redressing the inconvenience
and growing mischiefis which resulted from the
increase of Dissenters and Popery." Queen Anne*s
Act was but imperfectly realised as regards the
number of buildings to be erected, but to it
London owes some of its very finest churches, e.ff,
St. Mary*a-in-the Strand, and St. Martin's-in-the-
Fielda by Gibbs, St. Mary Woolnoth by Hawks-
moor, and St. Giles*s-in-the- Fields by Flitcroft.
It would be veiT desirable to have a list of the
churche**, with the name of the architect in each
case, which owe their eiiatenoe to this measure.
Any account would, I believe, embrace St Ann's
Limehou8e,St.Georg©*s Bloomsbury, St. George*a
Hanover Square, St. Luke's Old Street, St. John's
Westminster, and St. Botolph^a Bishopsgate
Street, H. F. T,
« Locket's Obdinatit'' (4^ S. vi, 509.)— The
**atory told'* of Sir George Etherege is probablv
just as true as a hundred others that begin witn
the Mime word«. Where the original is to be
/bund I cannot say; the ettrliest relation of it, as
far as I know, occtirs in Am AsUifuatim BmtMt
in thtf StrMw of LfmdoH by tb# liid /otba ThaniA
Smith (ed, 1640, L 147.)
For tlio plays as well aa other writinga in
which this once celebrated tavern ia mentioned, I
refer Mr. J. Perrt to Cunmngham*s Handbook
of London^ where, under the heading ** Locket^^_
he will find all the particulara he is in search ot ^M
OmAKLMs Wrus, ™
Heaeth Tax (4'»» S. vi. 476, 481.)— This tax,
or whatever it was, could not have been wholly
repealed by 1 William and Mary. I can well re-
member forty-five years badk, and remeoaber the
man calling for the '^hearth naoney/' aa H wat
st^'led, when I was very young ; and I remeoiber
further how we used to grumble at our upper
bedroom firepLacea bebg blodced up. H. W.
Although I cannot contribute any of the balladi
asked for by Cpl., I send what I venti
think will prove almost as interesting — ^ii_
an epitaph from Folkestone churchyard, in '
reference is made to '' the badge of slavery ** ;•
**In Meiiiorv of Kebccca Eogert, who died Ao
22*^ 1688. Aged 44 Years:—
*' A hoDw she hath t it's mtde of such good Baihk
The tenant ne^er shjill pay for rapamtion ;
Nor will her limdlorcl ever raiae ber rent,
Or turn ber out of doors for nonpaymeuL
From chinmey money too this ool ia free.
To such a house who would not tenant he? *•
The above is engraved on a headatone ;
ngainst the north wall of the chanceL
J. A, Pif. j
^' HlLA.RI0N^8 SEBVAIfT, TEX SaQE CROw"J
(4*** S. vii. IL) — Ililimon waa an abbot who liva'
in the latter part of the fourth century. lie
tired to the deserts in the neighbourhood of
juma, where he led the life of a hermit. After I
time, ftcGompanied by a few chosen folio w<»ii
among whom is e.«q)ecially m^itioned one He
sychiua, he betook himself to thaialand of Cypn
where he died in 371. There is a tradition tl
he was supplied with fool by birda; hence,
doubt, the allusion. C. K* P.|
This ia evidently a mistake*of Hilarioa €or Pa
and the allu^on is to the miraculous aupporl i
Sl Paul, the first hermit. St. Jerom relates <
him that a crow brought him every dav half i
loaf. F' a H.
"TifE Hall of Waters " (4*»» S, Ti- 54J5.)— A
story of the loaa of an Englishman who attempi
to explore in a boat an ancient subterranean
tern at Constantinople, called the ** Bot^in Serai,
or buried palace^ appeared about 1845, 1 the;
say, in Sfntt^p^'i Maffosiru. There was rather
striking engraving of the cistern, giving the idai
of vast extent, the roof being supported by Co-
rinthian columns half submersed in water.
X.R ^
i«&TiL Fni.4,7L3
NOTES AND QUERIES-
TmsiiLi&Bix (4*** a Ti. 438.)— Conf. Thmpstoa
(flaiEBMrly Tnf^itcme)f oo. Northampton; Thrip-
iow, COL CsniDriilge ; Thropton, co. Nortlmmber-
Isml; Tlinxp orTnip, co. Berks; and the Saxon
ihorp (G*?x. tioff), which corrupts ioto i^trupj)^
dnp, tmpf iharp. It does not, howcTer^ follow
tbal the tmSBn ia thtirrajK It maj be harrap^
mq^ <» tfj*. Among the ei{?hteen dUferent forma
widen tbe Tocuhle ire is liable to aasume are
trd aad tred. Tret^r-ab im^hi mean dwelling
on the water ; IreC-or-ii&f dwelling on the height ;
liml-Aarridp, dwelling of llarrap. Ilarrap is an
&|Biiali minamo^ but I am not aware that it la
'^ -"! in Cornwall, E. S. CHA^ttKocK,
*i» Inn,
1.6. Mr. Lower says ITtorpe In some diatricta
eorrupted to Tharp^ and that in Hampshire
I named SiUhorpe are called TJiarp.
EainTALETT FOBEIOIT TiTLEg (4*'' S. Tii* 12.)
I ihaald \>e glad to know how T — x would dis-
poia of tbe exiled royal family of France, or of
iboee of Spain, Naplea^ Sleawig Holstein, Ilan-
OTtr, &C., in his scale of precedence ; and how he
OB oom^ane nobilitj, although derived from the
teoOy NonnAii^ Fkntagenet, or Welsh princes,
viUt tbtf ad^na of bousea that hare occupied tbe
pEindpAl tiuKiDea of Etvope. 3.
POOLS^ OK MoUTHa OF STSBAlia (4^'' 8. Til. 12.)
Tto brooks and watercouraea which empty them-
vhea into the river Wyre, within its tidal influ-
eDoe, liaTe clows or floodgrdm placed at some dts*
tiDOi from their mouths in order to prevent the
** iojjod '' from b^ing overflowed by salt water.
B^wUie iloodgates^to the nver, those tributaries
lia called pools. The streams which fall into the
Wm beyond the reach of the tides are never
eaUid by that namai Jailes Peabso^,
Itihirow*
Litter of Galtleo (4* S. Tii. 12.)^The ori-
einal MS. of the letter of Galileo to Castelli,
diiied Dec. ifl, l»jlr% which h Ofiubtless the epiatle
*• *' — ! r-r by M. M., was in 1813 in the coUec-
-' well-known litttrateur Poggiali, and
,„ ... ..d by luiu in his l^rie de Tcdi di loujua
Hifil^^ i. luO). It was afterwarda printed by
T* n ! I L n in 1 1 i s Memorie e Lfttere Hi GaUlei ( 1 82 1 ,
and probabljr also in Alben*a edi-
^*rc tU Galilei f which I have not at
iiAuL ^ Gbokqb M. Geekk.
37, Kinie William Street. Strand.
Teb Pbijit 01? "GnD0*9 Achoba" (I'^S. ii.
:J01; 2*^ a iu* 200; 4»'» S. vil 13.)— Probably
tio readers of ** N. & Q,** even if they remember
It, will hi uhiiblQ to ^ud tbe reply to this query
iatl. -a, becanse it is mi referred to in
jift j ng been inaerted only incidentally
in a lofig communication on a subject of the
«iitta desci^ption, U b aa follows :—
" There is by the aame aathor (Alexander J&toloa^
spud Galeum ad Fiirtheninm Xiacenaem) anoibar de-
scription of Ibe revolution of the pkaet^, which is worthy
of notice, masmuch as tho Latin tnin<4Ution coDtainji
tnany of the expresflions in tho verse* fluhjomed, m 5Ir,
Dawson Turxkr informed ua (1»« Si, ii, 3dl), to a print
of Gnido's cdct>ratecl Aurora at Somei an aooount of
wliieh la given in A'b^e dts Ettampct MXpogmM a la Bik-
I'mUicqut du Eoi\ 12mo. A Piixiis 1^23,
' Qnadrijuffis tnveettit equls Sol aureus,—
CirciunvulAt aurea iaziA '—
imitated in Ludftr tmiemUai, The mroiber «f tiymphs
by which the .nin ia acctimpaniedf and which hand to
hand surrouDii his chariot, iiidicates not the hours (1*^ 8.
iiJ, 287) but the day* of tbe week, the names of which in
several languages are deri%*ed from the seven planets,
that goldeu chain in which ori^naled the principal
dcitifia of pagmn idohitry."— 1« S, vii. 132.
BOLIOTHECAR. CWETKAM,
Ret. Samitel Hbnley (4**' S. vii* 35.)— He was
once Professor of Moral Philosophy in the Wil-
liamsburg College, Virginia, and the author of
several literary works enumerated by Watt, I
always understood thnt both the French and
Enpliish text of Vatl^ek was tbe production of
Eeckford, The notes alone in the Bayard edition
are assigned to Dr. Henley.
Thomas E. WDnnNGTON.
llEFOBM BiLi. nr 1831 (4^^^ S. vi. 645.)— I well
remember refitting to pay the taxes then, tho
Marquises of Westminster and Lansdowue being
niv exemplars. James Gilbjux.
'51, Hill Street, Teckham, S.E.
Goes (4*** S. ti. 646.) — Gor» or gorce (from
tbe French govt), a weir. By statute 25 Ed. lU.,
c. 4^ it is ordained that all gorces, &c.f wheroby
the king*s ships and boata are disturbed and can-
not pass in any river shall bo utterly destroyed.
Sir E. Coke derives this word from ** f/uraea^ a
deep pit of water," and calls it a f/or* or t/ulj; but
this seems to be a mistake, for in Domesday it is
called gourt and f/oH^ the French woixl for a weir.
(Jacob's Zaic JbkL) G. M. T.
The meaning of this word is a point, a pike, a
born, being tbe Saxon fforSj originaUy apmied to
ft prickly shrub, the juniper, and restnarrow.
SotTie suggest the German geir; but tbe Saxi-kn^ I
think, is sulficicnt. J* J. Jr.
D-
G-
(4»'» S.vL 52D; vii. ai)— For a
fuller account of I> Q see :3'^«i S. v. :34a
It is strange that several thousand pounds should
have been paid for the suppression of a libel, and
still more so that the libeller should tell it in
print Mr* Daniel, however, only says, " a large
sum was given by order of the Prince Regent."
Ill Tlie Modem Ihrnciad (p. 2:3, ed. l^^o) he says
of himself, '* I who abhor a bribe/* Giilord
{Baviadj 1, 140) says, " 1 -w^o t^cm^T^\jr^<
114
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[it»> S. VII. Fni, 4, 71
and tlie whole passage is altered from Gifford for
the worse,
I am sorry to think ill of a writer who has given
mo much pleasure* The tone of Th^ Modam
Vunciad is high, and its criticiam generally sound,
and, though larppe appropriations are made from
Pope and Gifford^ the greater part is good and
original. If Mr. Daniel really took the Regent^a
money, ho could afterwards write highly of his
generosity when well applied. In the early edi-
tions of The Modem Btmciad 0'Keefe*6 age and
distress are thus noticed :-^
** F. ni nam© O'Keefb. F. I can^t be grave with him,
A rare compouDd of oddity and whim.
Hifl native ease, his qiiamt amasitig jstyle,
And wit grotesque woulil make a stoic smilp,
Ye who have lauphed vfhen Liugo trod the stage
Before tbia dull and aentimeritnl agc^
B« grateftxl for the merruoeiit he gavp,
And smooth hia cheerless passage to the grave.**
On this, in the edition of 1835, h a note : —
"King George the Fourth, with that fine feeling whidi
stamps an additional value on a favour conferred, ap-
pninteil a high dignitary of tha church his almoner.
The Bbhop of Chichester wa.9 the hearer of the royal
bounty, an anntial pension of one hundred pounds,
** Deeds aucb as I bene shall bring him true renown.
And prove the brightest jewel in liis crown ;
Shall shed around his throne suhHmer rays.
And dim the brightness of the diamomrs blaze.**
The lines are creditahle to D O *s
feelings^ bnt show that he waa stronger in satire
than in panogyric, H. B, C.
U. U. Club.
"He took the Dog's Nose" (4*^ S. \l 405;
vii. 43,) — These are the lines that 1 always
heard: —
*♦ There sprung a leak in Noah*s arlc,
Which made the dog begin to bark.
Koah took his ntae to stop the hole,
And hence bis nofe u always cold/*
Il,IL
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
Londfin : its CtUbrated Characters and RemarkaUt Plts^ei,
Bij J. Hcnengf^ Jesse, Author of ** Memoirs of King
Gc^rgo tlie Third/* Ac* Jn Three Voittjms, (Buntley.)
London has been fortunate in its historian'*. From
FitJt5tephen and Stow (with his contintjors Anthony
Al (in day and Stn-'pe) down to Fcnnntit nnd i*eter Cnii-
Tiingbam — to say nothing of a host of minor lumiDaries —
London has never wanted the jten of a n^ady writer to
chronicle its growth and pronrrvas. The In^t fcvr years
have been essentially prolific in bookfl illmlratiVc of
London: among which the work before us^ by Mr.
Jease, must bo awarded a furemos^t pUvi*. A century ngo
Horaoe Walpote ezpre«aed a wi^h that stjmc one would
do for Ijondon what SaJnt Foix h4'id done for Parifi,
record e%*eiy spot rendered interesting as the scene of
some remarkable event, the birth-place or rt^idence of
Aome well-known personage^ and jioint out the historical
id
aasociationa connected with et«ry locality. This ide
partially adopted by Pennant, was ev«ntuatly admirab
carried out bv Cunninghant in his Ilandbtwk, am! by M.
Jessfi in hia Literary and ifittnrieal J^emoriali of L(md<M
published in 1817, and ita sequel, London and t£j CtU
britUs^ pubJiaheti in ISffO. The book before ua is a happr
oombioation of hift two former entirely recast, and to'|
great extent rewritten by Mr. Jewe ? and while it mo
be admitted that it wants the order and predso j
rangement which makes Cunningham's Handbottk
extremely valuable as a book of refereoce, on thc< *
hand, it ia charmingly gossipy, and at such n
doubtedly hare won higher praise from th«
cynic of Strawberry UiJl* It ia only juatioe !
that the book Is made useful as well ai agreeable by 111
very ample Index of names of places and personi r
which it b completed ; and would in our eyes hare j
proached as nearly va possible to perfection, bad
Jeaae followctl the practice adopted by him in hla Mem
of George the Thirds of quoting With great fatlQ«S9
all his atithorltie.% To hare done eo would perha|w
have coniiderably enlarg:ed the aiza of the work—It
would certaitily have increased its ralaa.
Li/t of Amhrose Borwicke^ Iftf hi$ Father. Ediitd A/
Joha E. B. Mayor, M,A„ Fdlow of St. John*e Coilig«v
Cam h ridge. (Deighton, Bell & Co,)
This Httlo volume ia extracted from Catnbridgt m
Qnten Anne (printed mainly for such of the authoi
frienda ft« arcinleresitcHl in tho historj- of the ITnireraiti
and 14 a reprint of A Pattern for rotatg Studentt m
(■niverstty. Such In the title of the life of his wftU whi*
the elder Borwicke publiahcd ia 1729. It ia acc<impamed
by a moss of illustrative note* from the pen of the prt-
sent editor, which doubles the siio of the book, and Ur
more than doubles its vulne. These notea Mr. Mi; :
modestly offers as a contribution towards Athenit dj^nU:
britfienMrM^ adding — " that he must be a bold man wj
undertakes to complete Mr. C4)oper's work j but ws U\
rnry taste.* gain ground in the University, it beconi
more and more likely that iho attempt may txs mails |j
and in tko wide a tidd every gleaner flndaaome ears whidk
have escaped previous search." The editor dedtcstts to
the Master, Fellows, and Scholars of St. John'** CoU#ge
** this view of the Nonjuror'a Home as it appeared on the
eve of the Ifi^t Cambridge rer^ecution ** j and otir readew
will find it an important contfibation towards the
tory of that earne-st body of English CbiiVchmen
fKhat I mw of the tVar at the Battles of Spfkk
Corze, and Grtivtlotte, A Narratite of Twa Mm
Campuitjnitttjf trith the Frvtsian Army in the Mm
St/ the ilon. C, Allanaon Winn. ( Black wowl.)
We take sihame to onraelves at iSnding that, by as
untouanl accident, our notice of thia graphic and amuitog
sketch of the first two months of this dreadful war has
been postfjoned until now. But the book has more thaa
a ti.<mporarf intere-st^ and will be doubUeas hetMlfcsr
frequently referred to.
Dthrttf* ll/uit rated Peerage and TitltM of Cnurttiy ^
(fnited Kingdom of Great Britain and Irttandy to wh
11 added much Infurmation retpectitw the ImmedL
Fatniiu Conneetimii of the Peert. Under tUrect
Kinal MeviiioH and Correlation, 18 7 L (Dean.)
Dtbrett*M lilmirnttd Baroneta^, with the Knighta^ of
the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Irctantl; ta
which it added much Information re*ptcting the iiaaim
iiiate Fumdy Connection* of the BaronetM. Undtr dirwH
Fertonai Revision and Correction. 1871. (Dean*)
We have m repeatedly' called attention to the claims of
this useful, and in point of form most convenient, Pevr-
ader^
\ hk- I
»fr«lH
mtiiM
»fI^H
4ns. VII. FBai.4.71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
115
•ge, B«rnDeUg«, and RnighUge ta
pablJt?, lb«t wif may rery properly coul
the fuToor of tlws
fy content ourselves with
^tAtJjJK that the Teeri^G ii brought down to the rejy
close of the rear 1870^ in&Ftnach bj it rcconts the death
of Lord WjiUliighaiii* which took place on December 31,
and gives Um iuujU mformation reap-rctin^ his sticoeawr.
Uoleta indeed ii be to expron our Mtijifaction, that the
editor atiU coQtinaei to c;fLU attention io the circum stance
thatt owing to some delect in oor hiw^, any person may
with tBir**^nUy asMime (he title of Baronet ; and that^ to
thair diacredit be it spoken, there are many among ua
wio do not beoitate to do so*
BooiCfc RKCK.liTKD.^Haydn't Dictionary of Date* ; Sup'
jdrmrMt io lAe TTtirf^nth Edition^ inctHdimf the I/iitury
»/ ih* World to the End of 1870, by Benjamin \'incent.
(Sloxiin.J A moet valunble addition to the iiKlis|x^nsAb1o
Hsfdiv if for one article alone : iU Chronology of the
FiUM»>Pnt«9tan War up to De«:. 31. — We roust confine
«ilielv«« to recording the titles of The Bookworm ; an
tSmiwmt^ Literuiy and Bibiio^taphicat Etrfitnc (fur
^"— ■■'''^■) ; Cohnml QueitioHM preMMtny /nr Immedmte
^ R. A, Macdv^ M.P. ( Lonf;niian!<i) ; lifipoleom,
» JSWcnie, aruj Prince Imprri/ti^ and the Frnnco-
Gtrmfitt I7'«r, by D. G. F. Macdundd, LL.D. (Stcvl)
rmmber of the Academy makes the following
i!* : — Till- li-ctjvery in a bam of two pklures,
;f?r by Gaudeczio rerrario,
d in the Masenm of Dr*
s iLtorio Emaouele ; — the com-
. WheweU'a statue by Mr. Wool-
, Cambridge ; and the publication
*Littl^ «jf iwu pu.^ihmrious lAlea by Miss Aasten — " Ladv
Saan/* a abort one- volume stoiy, tod "The Wstsons, *
yrkkh k iinf<)ftaoately anfiniabed.
TiMt MoAFiTE S-mxE. — Dr Ginnburg will read a
-•*— frti itiis subject at the Roral Asiatic Siiciety"*
: on Monday evening ; Sir Uenry Rawlinson,
ia Ibe chair.
TttBkt»AT*K GartiU announces the appointment of Mr.
Jiin« Ssnt, K^., as Principal Painter in Ordinary to
^4j4aty« in the room of the late Sir George Hayter,
Royal AcAt>KMr. — Menra. U. S. Marku, F.
, ind T, Woolrier^ hjtve just been elected Aaso-
11 media " ii now betn|^ translated
■umaalan poet L £Uadei Eadu-
.. .T . ...u^u lime past been engaged on this
[.?f8 Coi<TaiQiiTs.^lt is stated that Iheas
hv purchase into the hands of Messrs.
; fCK Muncnisox, the co-patron with the
choir of Guf'lofii* in the University of
la norainstrxl Mr. Archibald Geikie, F.fcS.,
r ^fe^•JM>r. Sir K, M ii re hison'a endowment is
: !)« Crown adds 'j<n>/. jK?r annum to the in-
f aaja, and the fe^a.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WAKtED TO FURCHASB.
rSp<l«»lan of Prtetk ae., of Uu lbUowto« Book* to tie mnl Airtei to
ItessaUMiiBi bf mheia thuj U9 iwiiured, «ti4)t« Duiiei Bad iddfegit*
«it V»«i» Ibt Out piuiw^r —
a:eirmHt d« imria Dioanor. Editloa of IbsL In Twen(r-iwo
YoUunt*. PAfii c I. L, /. Britn.
WwOcd 1|f Mr* WHtie CofUm, 90, Olqwe^lv F1«ot, Fortmaa
QaSTi^siiAV^a IfAaAtTiri. A oorapkte let*
Bnirai: H KouTruMiii»?«»uiiLa. I VoU.
KUMK -. iCB.
- — 't AncBiTKcnma.
Bawi- .
WMUd br J/ Booluettej, is» Co>Ml«tt Stmt,
OM BiKkki or FrtnU i^lftUne to Ctifnbcrlsnd 9t WeilmortuuL a^
Old (|ukWer Uixbki or TmcU bcftm: \W0.
Waat«d by Mr. fietinf T. fTaJfae, CocktnnouUi.
Aajr of tb* AmnrUl Sodfrijr'«PobllcfttloDi.
WmiiUd bj' Mr. If. M4$rA,7,SLBA Um Satuire. W,C.
Baltic of th« Bc^)me« wi EDsmvfnir ^f WootlttI team tho Fhlntlaf by
Ben (■mill Wwt.
3U C«cilli. nu EncnTiitf bjr 9lr Robert 9tT«il«t.
WlUtkd by Ibe S^v, John rict/„r4,M,A ., Bolton PeWT,
ucu- TEdtiuter« Yorkihirft,
Ctm«Ut>aEOX, — \, u*iil Jind articieM on (he etymoloffu
n/tkh ward in our 3"^ S. i. 130, 104 ; v. 31t»i liTO.
A Kkw S*jso from PAitis, ante p, 72.— Ote'% Io fAe
miscarriage of n prmf there iVr a tnifreaditty in the ttcond
line of " dfrnutrmt pour,** miltad of •♦ pcndrais pour,"
which tpaili Ute metre.
Adhsa's mffgvttion *htndd &e addrtaud to The Armagh
Guardian.
G. J. C, (Leeda.*)— 1. We nevrr $aw the Unet before ;
2. (?) Sir llmnm Phiihut; 3, The Bookworn» iJi pub-
itshed at the f\ffice, 4^ Brydy*M Street, Ctwent Garden^
Sp. — SmUh, spelled Smijthf do€$ not occur in Me book to
which Sp. rtftrt.
** Pkcca fortitek," ante p, 77, — Thit query hhi» interted
by an otertiyht ; for, at tfe have been reminded by Lr)Ri>
LVTTKLTOX,, it had already item onni.*ered tery fuity in
" X. .V Q/' 4"* S. iii. 137, ll»il, 278.
The Willow PAi-ranx, — J. B. is referred to onr S""*
S, xl 15-2, 2l)«. 3)iS, iOO, 461.
Mko MiiKJitLliiks. — Z. will Jind a full accmttd of Jean
Gnrdtm, the prototype of Mey Merriliet, in the prefact tfr
the Cenfenaruin Edition of G uy Mannerioff.
GKNKALcxiCCAL QUEitiKS of no tntenit but to the in-
qmrt-r cannot be inserted unle$M thequerittaddf hii name
and addreu to whert rtplit* may be forwarded^
NuMEUAL PROPHECIKH- — We musl refer Mn. MouFtia
ta our a"» 8, x, 87, 216, and 4*^ a Vi. 226, 2110. 3ik), 44«i»
49<J, where he will Jfind, not only the in§tance9 yipen by him^
but ai*o a collection of other $,
T. S. N. — ExcEf^ron ha* already had a reply. Sex
p. 'S^Jl of our luMt cotumtt*
.1. Pkuky. — Ompman Ar Tlatl, 191, Piccadilly , canpt
baltly tupply whut you rfi/wire.
Omn'iii query i« in tyfie^ and $halt appear next week,
BKLOtqUK. — The tjuettion i* entirely one of feeling*
We doubt the legal riyht of th€ head of the family io I
tawAuin it, A tittle further revNirch an your part would
probably e^labtiih the connection,
AU eotnmvnieatiom tkoHtd hf vtd4ttMied to ih* Editor t{f " X. a Q.,"
4S« WiiUtkgt<m Ulrttt, Stratui, H\C,
A Knutinff Cmc Tor hol«tln«t th« WMikljr ttmnhem of *• 7f , S: Q.** li now i
etdf, und Mwy be h»<l uf all Bookwller* wnd NewMn«D, ptim I
r, trea by poat, dtrecfc from the PubUAlur, tot U. aif«
ready, %nd ""^X j*_*^*|[ "* *'} ^*^}^"t '^'•^!? Newiwwo, prim Ir. Scf«t
mar bt had of tlit
Pnbllabor, aad (
Mndlnir ihe Votcimoa of ** H. ft Q.'*
fall Doukjeilen mad KevMiin.
In eim»fq\ifnr« qf th^f abotHiom qftht imprtanftl A
' " tttftid ,&ft'
nd«
maybti ,
Orflce. (h favour V
; StS *" **
SuUiciriplum fur notify fory>w4i ,
ttdina the llalf-ycnrl^ Indeitn/tj
tUivt qf 11'^ *tt, ). vAirh may fre tmUi I
Unclt
tA* llalf'vcnrltt Indeitn/vr JiJt Ifff^L'.
1. Ad, ). trAJi-A n«n V fre pntd fry /'Mt q|lci
Sftmtri^t lioiu* i*mt Omet, U favour nf WC
Wmxijrtitow STuwrr, 9TiiA3fn» W.C
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m|ER*iT/^ VTTTIGK & SIMPSON will
iUL thrlr Bowe, 4J, Laaji^ ««■
^JE^ nr 1^ Bad two MloviBf d«M, il 1
MAS, A(i4 <: t.'tiii^ri«uitf f>ii]iiiij lll»tDritB. mmA cm
nMMCtjr la tiaixiifHne Vadlncv tvMog vhich m., _
Aikfu** OliwiffnB— fclifc «nt •ilkkn.Wliilsker'* Lbbji. 1 _
— Jooci i B^WKiMajkUra, 1 vol*.— Ov^n uiB BUkrvrsf'^ >hiw%]bBnr—
Btimt^B Honk Ihulwa. laipe vftfrr^Ruylc'i Uomar of tiw kftaMlw*
Mmmttiln* — •({•rtrini BoCvniOiiin, 7 vub. hftlf mMrxjcw* _ 64J«v«9 '«
fiotanr --'^^ - ' ^ TuU_I>ibdiii'* BOaiocnipbic*! Datttt*
eroD. ' rwMaj^ «nd Northtn Cuunuo mT '•'-gi'^
IWPtr, •♦.bjf IvhK
Jaipr :. I.. •'. ^art*
IM|wr. ' p'-t'^
A TOl* \ eUiKtN
with iv
CMiklMyuc* on nwriM ■•< two Mkmn**
ABPEK'8 CATALOG LTE ol BOOM
Thcokifflcal anil M]«ceUiuvMJ>u4, a ill be fiiormrded poMftMA
», Tabertwde Walk (rmt f iiMtrarr S<)UKn>. LMkAov. S.C.
S^
THE NE^^ OENTLEIkLVN'S GOLD WATC
JL KKTLE88, E»elki>i Make, mora wlM tlMtti Foralfii, lH I
JuNI^ afuntaelofirtSSk MrwML, crnpMitt 9amum* tUMm,
Hmm Watcbei k«ina iMttjr pobiU cvTipedil 9l«i«llj.
CHITBB'S WEW PATETTT SAFBi.^
[TEEL PLATED, with DiagonAl B<>It% to
Wcl-ta, liril l«, and Fire.
CKITBB'S a^ATM9T OBTSCTOS XiaCXit ■
of all Sl«c« lUKl for ei^cTT PartKH«_Stre«i-doar Lalchei v!|k •fQ«U
ana orat Kt^.-Cadi, I>«»4. P*p«r. awl Wrltiuff Uas«i^
all hiUA vltk Ui« Dettctor Loirk*.
IRON D00R3 FOR STRONG KOOJi&
lllvMimtcd Prize Li§U Grain tMNti PvH-IYtf,
CHUBB and SUN,
0*it Crox StreeC, MaMlMster 1 axul W^I vcrtiaioiitan*
i«*&VU.FH».ll/7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
117
X^Ji^CtV. SATURItdr, rEBBUA&r 11, 187^
CONTENTS.— N« ICa,
S&tE^ :— AINM I-eiter by Predejick of Pruiak to Prince
Chfcr].»8u wfift nr — Bhnk<?«n*«ro and Arden,ll8 — 8fn-
^ . lie — ** The Mrodi^l Soil"
h. i!itn, 76. —The »tr«iburg
l^ih- \:'y Schoolmaster abmud iu
»taiffi*i^hirc —A Cootra^t. lii«© and 1871 - Mummert —
^X-|.TMt ..- _ v..-,h» of lrtlwid.l2i — Bishop AJeook —
i, itfree of P»t«r Btrt ~ "Blue Books"
^ - D« Saye or Say — The *' Bitatica " of
U .^ . . ' it . .*> Tree " — " Thu Grecian B«i>d *' — Hfir-
«ro» — TbM Hole in the Wdt — BuriaJ V\aee% of Manx
B,*»(r»p« — Mftsalo ad Usum LauvanneDiem — Lad/ M.
•,, -. .. *SMtii|fir9 Letters — Thfodoflia Noel — Pullfton
1 . t*lion« wanted — EAnclai^b, Wilts, Ac.— The
L \Va\1 Nortbanipton — feivo and the White-
U"» — ^ri« kt*nb*'rgius'B *' Treatise on Ncwwaa " — Smyth,
oimM Htrrrsiitt Wilhrot<», L©ice*iterBbirc: ^mythofEatb-
ftynre^t^^ r/v Cork — Story of a 8tattt«, 122.
^^.. .,, _, , , 125— SampU^rs. 126 — Comisb
> . — Cbe*a> lo EnjElarul and Chhia,
1 .rave in Tevio Churchyard, Y2H—
*\ liti vu-'s New Testametit, SecoutJ Jidl-
V Whistle/" Ac» — Hair growinif afler
M X; story — War Mcdal« — An Iiitdited
^■Hi* ioLdflmiih — iS»hbiimcrs of Furnc«« —
^^M< L — Cobblers' Lamp* in Italy — The
^^Hi nis — Wulfruna — St, Vnl^-iitlnf — A
BiU ait.iihv rr-vr-iito.l-L^MCfh Hunt's " ] ■ " nrjj
in Towtt "— lite F]v*t ' ThirvUPdiited **Si il",
Thaiw cf Fifr*— RshioV Jiills — Wrong lii, un
BhMTtii < ''an Night, thia eaa ^i£.iii — The
Aa««^'
ALLEGED LETTER BY FREDERICK OF PRUSSU
TO PIUNCE CHARLES STEWART.
The fallowing copy of a translation of a letter
m Fwmcb, allep-ed to'bave been seat by Frederick
of iVoAftiii tj^ Prince Charles Stewart, hafl gone
-r of the public journftla. A few
d by way of explanation, evi-
I ^'ive R semblance of truth to the docu-
liiB represented as baying been trans-
y Lord George Murray, and enclosed in a
'1 the person for whom it was inteuded.
tter and translation bad been* it is asserted,
t?d in an old black letter Bible. It will
;errt*d that neither the original translation
OCT Hit* alleged letter are described as autograph.
Tbf? dnte U NoFember 8, 1740— not quite »ix
ixM after the defeat at Ctilloden (April 10^
'J-
JlBDSRICKt KIKO OF PRUSSIA, AND TIIK YOUUG
PRETFXTJEB.
[.ord George Murray to a
1 of a letter fr«3m Frederick
^MK-.i i r.i-tjiw-^ nil--- i^iiiles Stewart, lias been fotind
tvmstly witliin tb« leavefi of an old black-letter Bible :—
* My Lnrd, — Thouf:b thin letter hath been so long
^b tecTct, aufl hid from the public, 1 give yoa my
H b fTwiulne. Jt waa with gt««t dilBciilty I
*^"" ■ '* ' 'V h t am not perfect master of the
iTipt«d the translation of it, and
I tibliuie in the EngliJah tongue as
i» Ua «igiiULl| y 61 it -w ill in a great mcMsajv discover the
real aeatimeiita of hia Prussian Majesty to the nuboppj
family of Slcwurt : —
** ' Tkt Kv^ i^Fru»9ia"* Letter to kh JRoi^ai Bightym
Frinct Chartei,
" * Most beloved Cousin, — I caa no longer, my dear
Prinre, deny myself the aatisfacUon of ccmgratulating
you on your aafe arrival in France, and thouji^h the coa^
nectiofn I have with the reipnin^ fnmMy did not pennit
me to rejoice too openly at the proj^rew of j^our arms, I
can assure you, on the word of a King+ 1 was uncerely
touched with your miafortanea, tttider the deepoit appre-
henJiions for the safety of your person.
" » All Europe was astonlshea at the greatness of yotir
enterprise ; for though Alexander and other heroes oaye
conquered kingdoms with inferior armies, yon are the
onl}* one who ever engaged in AUch an attempt without any.
** ' Voltaire, who of all poeta is bejit able to write, is
obovL- all men mon^ indebted to your Highacas for having
at lengtli furnished liim with a subjeci worthy of hi^ pen,
wbicli bus all the rt:qiiisitefl of an epic poem, except a
happy event.
*' * However, though fortume was your foe. Great Bri-
tain, and not your Htghneaa, are tae only losers by it^
as the difHciilties you have ondetigoae have only served
to discover those tialenti^ and virtues which have gained
you the admiration of all roaokiad, and even the i^steem
of those amongst your enemies la whom every spark of
virtue iii not totally extinct.
** * The Princess, who has all the curiosity of her sex,
is desirous to see the feattirea of a hero of whom she has
beard s(» much, «o that you have it In yoar power to
oblige both her anrl lue inHcndmg as your picture by tha
Count de j who h on hi* return to Beriin ; and be
assured I Rholl esteem it the most valuaLle at-qut^ition I
ever made. You are frequently the aubjfct of conversa-
tion with General Kdth, whom I have had the good foi^
tune to engage in my service, and, besides Ms oonsuan-
mate knowl^ge in nulitary aflkirs, be is f)Osseased of a
tbotieand amjuble qualities, yet nothing endears Mm ao
much as his entertaining the sentiments with regard to
your Royal Highness that 1 do.
" * Waa I differently situated to what I am, I would
give you more esseatial proofii of my Iriendship than
mere words ; but you may depend on any good oQices I
can do with my brother of France, Yetl am surry to
tell you that 1 am too well acquainted with the politics
of iliat Court to oxfjcct they wiU do you any soHd fsertnoei
ri« they would have everything to apprehend from a
Prince of your oonsummato abilitios and enterpriaing'
geniua placed at the head of the bravest people in tha i
world. Adieu, royal hero, and assure yourself that no .
change of fortune can make any alteration in my esteem. |
** * From our Court at Berlin, Pnoaau*
November 8, 1746/ **
It ia odd that this affectionato and confidential
commnnication has the word *^ I*riissia " at th© ]
end. It is not uflual for mooarcba lo subscribe or j
superscribe papere of any kind after thia fafihiom I
Neither the hinga of England, Scotland, nor Franod j
signed m '* England/' ** Scotland," '' France/'
Now the letter and prefatory observation wer« *
printed and attempted to be circulated more than
one hundred and twenty years ago. The writer
has in bia possession one of the printed copies ,
seized by order of the mogistrateB of Edinburgh ^
on June '29, 1748 ; and the only difference of Xm
filiffhteat momeDt, betvreeu t\i^ ^tl?^^ >i^tAVsa
I aad the modern copy, is l\i% da.\ft — ^^ ^ssttasa
118
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4* a. TII. ?■». u.
I
being ''November the 8tb, 1747/' and the latter
^'Koveml»er8, 1746."
In coDiequence of intelligeDce received by tbe
mftgietratea of Edinbui^h tbAt a document of a
0editiou5 tendency wea privately in drculation^ an
inquiry wa3 set nn foot by them, and four wit-
neases were examined on the subject, whoae
depoaitions were to this eifect : —
Upon June 29, 1748, John Loch, keeper of the
Laigh coffee-boitae, woa examined in presence of
the Lord ProToM and Magistrates. lie deponed
that he had seen the MS. of the latter three or
four months previouflly —
" That being in hh <!ofrec-hoase this tnornmf?, betwwn
mnv and ten o^clockt a boy, whom the declarant, knows
not, came into the coffee-house, and put into his liand
fonr copies of a printed pflper, which thednclarant^ with-
ont looiitaK t^i pnt into ajpreas in the eoffee-houae where
be keepa bu logaT ind coffee/*
With h aing-ular want of curiosity, he aaaerts he
aerer looked into thenip and could give no inform-
Ation about the boy who brought them. On lb©
same day the constables came with a search war-
rant, when Loch put the papers into his pockety
refused to give them up, and only produced them
when brought before tlie council One copy waa
marked by the clerk of the court, signed by Loch,
authenticated by BaiUie James Stewart, and is
the ooe above referred to.
Patrick Arthur, ** keeper of the Brittish colTee-
hou!*e/- was next examined* He declared that
the previous night, between the hours of nine
and ten, a printer's boy with his apron on came
to the colft^e-house, and gave thirteen copies of
the letter of the King of Prussia to the servants.
These were delivered to him, whereupon thej
were instantly locked up, and shown to no person*
He delivered the copies to the constables when
they came, but could give no account of the
printer's boy^ m all he knew on the subject was
communicated by his servant.
Next day brought out the name of the printer,
who turned out to be Robert Drummond, whose
apprentice, John Livingston, stated that one John
Henderson brought the MS. to the printing house
of his master, where it was printed.
David Ross, the pressman of Mr. Drummond,
Bpoke as to the delivery of the MS, and the order
by John Henderson to have it printed, which was
obejred, and five hundred copies thrown off and
delivered to Henderson. He concluded his de-
claration by asserting *4hat Henderson, upon
bringing the MS. to the printing: house, say^d tliat
be bad got it fmm one Mrs. Nicol/^ Who this
female was (if such a person did really exist) is
not explained.
The seizure of this seditious fabrication was in
June, 1748 J and the paper printed is dated in
Nov. 1747. The recently discovered MS*, now
rBptiatedj ia duted ia Nov. J 746,
\
It congratulates Prince Charles on his
arrival in France, which occurred in that year,
and tbe printed letter does the same a year later;
whilst the deposition before the ma^trates es-
tablishes that the MS. letter and mtroduetloB
were not in type until May or June, 1748,
If genuine, this document is an early spedroen
of Prussian double- dealingf worthy of the pre-
sent retined age. But we have no Utile ditlicultf
in arriving at the conclusion that it is a fiction:
one of those device.% not unfrequently practised to
influence the public mind, and prepare it fort
subsequent rising. That the government, upott
learning its existence, issued those ordew to whiel
the mngistrat&s of Edinburgh gave eflect, plain]|
evinces a belief that a new rebellioQ of tne Ji-
cobites wm in contemplation.
Had the letter been a veritable one, it wouM
never have been subscribed ** Prussia."
J.3L
SHAKESPEARE AND ARDEN.
There U a very interesting and able article a
the NoHh British MmitnVf No. civ. p. 3fM, on
Sbrtkespeare and Ben J on sou, in which re r»^ notice
is made to a grant to Shakespeare by Canj4 n^
159D, to quarter the arms of Arden of AlvHuley,
in Cheshire, as the issue of the marriago of hh
father with the co-heireas Miss Ardenof S. Stiat*
ford, CO. Warwick.
I think it has always been understood that tliii
lady was of the old W^arwick stock of the Ardeos,
and not of the A Ivanley branch of that famil);
and I should have supposed that Camden yn& in
error had not the writer in tbe article in quwtioii
suggested the possibility of the co-heiress's gwiid*
fatlier, Thomas Arden of Aston Cantlowe, bdag
a son or grandson of Thomas Arden of Leicester-
shire, t^mp. Hen. VL, who was the son of IIaIdIi
Arden of Alvanley by bis wife Katherioe, dAu^'B-
ter of Sir William Stanley of Hootou* Perbafft
some of your readtirs may be able to assist m
attempting to settle this very interesting (juet-
tion, 1 may add that there ia no Arden pediprw
recorded in the Visitation of Iveicestershire, 1610,
and only once in that very full record is an Ardett ^
mentioned so late as Shakesptjnre's time, and 1 *
is *' l^luriella filia Arden de Parkhall in "
Warr."
The writer speaks of Shakespeare's father 1
of a peasant family, by which I suppose he n
that the father being (I think) a woolstapler, itl
to be presumed that all his remote a^ well as nal
ancestors were of the same or humbler condition.
If clearly made out fia a local or personal sur-
name, it might very materially help all futurt
biographers of Shakespeare, Is there no maaor
or humlet in Cireat Britain (I will not say Ire-
land J it bras not yet put in a clium to him) callaij
4*aviLF«B.n,7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
119
SIitlanuTf ShAg?par, Shftcspere* Shokspur^ Shack-
flpu*, Shackle 9 pur, &c. ? At first sight it would
seem to be a personal namt*, such as Strong-i'th'-
mrm or Armstrong, Shftkt>-tli*'«pear — a rather
nuUtar^ appellation, and probnblj of very honour-
alkie oTi^D. In any cn^e, I suppose Shakespeare'e
(p*at-grand father ie believed to have been a com-
batant at Boswortb. If this is the cane the re-
cord or tradition of fiucb a circumstance raiaes
i pfMumption (dept^nding on the nature of such
j%cotd or tradition) rather in favour of the fnmily
bung more yeoman than peasant That Shake-
•peare himself makes no reference to roak or
female side, and never troubled himself in the
▼eiy costly matter of pedi|^e in those days, go^s
for nothing-, thoug-h it cannot be fur a moment
tQppo6ed that the natural curiosity of a boy to
bioir where be came from should not d eve! ope
ttielf in Shakespeare's riper yeiurs into the equally
ftroog curiority to know of whom be cfvm©. For
tkere are gentlemen I have been acquainted with
wkoM ancestors down to their great-grandparents
MUftsed very largo estates for centuries, who
W the ^ary faintest suspicion of the fact, from
the circumstance of the early deaths of parents
other members of their families^ a mther'a
gnndfether's s»icood marriape, whereby chil-
m by the fit^t wife suffered school- banishment,
ftD(i afterwards resided at a distance from home,
md from other similar circumstances.
I know not whether the woolataplere of Henry
yin. and Elizabeth's time were protected by
ft J many other trades of those times, by
few of immediate peii&ant origin were at all
jlbwed to enter the community. But one thing
i« certain, had not Miss Arden been his mother^
I lid have had no Shakespeare ; and as we
jmething of her »ide, it would not be amiss
tiiiT we know something of his — the paternalr
As to the armorial question, it is thought in the
article quoted that Shakespeare's and his father a
iBiioiis for applying for the canting coat subse-
"'""** 'r gitinted were on account of their de-
Jmpale and quarter, though the father as
— ^ the i#on couldf I think, have used the
Arden arms without impalement or quarter ; the
ler, I should say, by carrying them as an
'leon of pretence on a blank shield. Then
is further aaid that Shakespeare never did
qurter, because I suppose his seal, and, it is sug-
p«ted, his monument bear no quarte rings ; but
1* there no emblnzoned coat of quarterings coeval
vith Shakei^peare ? As to seals^ they were very
ly engraved quarterly; and as for monumental
lence, why it is no evidence at alL
T. Helsbt.
SINGULAR PROCEEDIXGS IN MIDDLETO>r.
I enclose a cutting from the Manchester Examine
and Times of Jan. 10, 1S71, giving particulars of
a singular custom recently observed. Although
a Liincashire man, Ihave not read or heard of the
custom before* I may add that Middloton ia
about five miles from Manchester ; the manufac-
tures are silk and cottoD, and the population in
1801 was 14,482 :—
" Siitnr^ay was the Iwt day of a singultr 9»tuniii.ti*
held at Mid (I let on. It has been for many yeftTi a cuntom
among the inliahitanta of a locality called *Tbro:it1e Hall,
a p«rt of thti town, to annually elect a king over th» dip-
trict» whose province Ib to receive petitions concerning
street nuisancea in any ahape, and take the best meant
in hiai conception to have the ia,me abated. The kinc: for
the present year ia a John Barber^ dealer in salt, ^and,
pipeclay, and other articles of domestie use. Ho was
crowned on Monday in the kitchen of a b^er-houac,
named for the oeewton * Weatminster Abbey,' bv a per-
son who was dubbed ' Archbiahop of Plg^eon llill,* a
neighbourhood situate in Tonge. The crown was made
of block tin, and wna profuselv ornamented with fenthors
and coloured ribbons ; it was abo lined with fabbitn' skin,
and upon the peak was a hrasa plate, on which was in-
•cribed ♦ King John the First* 181 U* On placing the crown
upon Barber^ head, ' hla grace * deHrered a poetic ad-
dreifl. After thi^ ceremony* Barber mounted a platform
in the street, when he was j^reetwl with vociferous cheer^
ing by about 30U0 person*— the male portion all uncover-
ing; and remaininq uncoveretl while hia majesty add resaed
them» which he did to right royal terma, hoping that his
an bj eels would be true to him, and be ready for defence
hi ra»e of itivaiiioti by enemies, he promLiing in return
that he would watch over their interests niq^ht and day,
and attend to ail their petitions A Mr. Thomas Brier-
ley, of the * Cottage of Content/ Tonge» followed with an
address, in which he exprea-wd a hope that tho royal
dignity would be made hereditary by the people, and tha&
the present king's princea and prinoesaea would bear the
crown after him. After thi* his majestj waa taken over
his dominions in his cart, attended by bis officers of state,
whom he had already appointed, a strong body guards
and thouaands of hia'pubjects. In the evening a grand
feast waa held, after which bis miijp*ty danced with the
beautiea of his court, to the strains of a brnsA band. On
Tuesday the king paraded the whole of Middlcton oti bii
* charger '—his donkey — attended by his officers and guard ;
and in the evening he again rode along the thorough-
fares, when there was a grind torchlight procession.
Later on in the night Mr«. Barber waa crowned queen by
the women of Throstle Hall, who provided a handsome
cap for the occasion. Afier this ceremony, her majesty
favonrcd the company with two or three aonga. About
eleven o'clock the royal couple were attended to the gatei
of their residence by a host of persona, whOt »ft« singing
•God save the King* and the ^Christmas Hymn/ re-
tired in perfect order. A round of feativitiea was kept up
till Saturday evening in honour of the event. It may 1j« •
mentioned that Barber had a rival for myal honours ia ^
the person of a Jesse Colli nge, & we8%'^er^ and that oti
Moadav morning there was a poll* which resulted in
Barber* being elected with 205 votes against 200 given
for Colli nge. Cabs and other conveyances were brought
into requisition to bring voters to the booths. The pro-
ceedings throughout were conducted in a veiy orderly
and busineas-like manner, and were watched by lar^ ^
teumbers of persona ftom Oldhtm, K«ctkdal<i, a^^^a
■nd other places " f> w ^
Hwiton ChapeL ^ . XV.^^
120
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[i«>S.Yn. Fkb, lt,*TL
"THK PRODIGAL SON," BY MURILLO.
It htm been swd that tbe series of illustratians
of tills parable hy Mitrilla is in some inspects the
best of his works now exhibiting at the Royal
Academy. I am grlad to be allowed to append
the foUowing descriptive exti*act from an unpiib-
lighed sermon on tho same aubject, preached by
Dean Stanley a fibort time since in Westminster
Abbey, feeling confident that it will add greatly
to the pleasure of yisitors to the present exhibi-
tion, in enabling them, to appreciate more folly
these masterpieces. H. F. T,
** The Parable of tho Prodigal Son micht be the story
of nny home, in any part of tho world. ThL^re 13 a
' ^^'v vivid r^preaentation of it in it^ several
ries of six succesaive pictures by the greaiett
! paioters, once divided from each other,
imrtiy m Spain and purily ia Italy, now happily re^
united in England. The painter's geniiia bas there por-
trayed the whole story, a* though it h<id happened in his
<rwn country^ There u the Spanish father ttiviilin^ tho
property between the two youths. Tliey are hardly to
b« aiAtingnished from each other in that happy moment
of o[)eaing life. The future to them 1.1 as yet unknown;
the world ia all before them where to choose ; their father
looks with eqnal and benignant love on both, Then
eomcs} tho parting of the younger i?ou on his travels.
There he starts in hat and plume— on his prandng horse
—in all the pride and gaiety of brilliant sticeessand hope.
The father blease^ him witli all the fulness of paternal
affection. His mother weepa with all the depth of
motherly love. Only the older brother stands by, with
hifl araifl folded and" with stem unmoved counl<'»nance,
as much as to r&v ' I know whither you are going — I
foresee what will hefall you/ Then comes the fall. Tho
hftppy, gay^ innocent youth has plunjt^ed into dotoufl Jiv-
ing and debauchery. Hia Spanish iinery is still upon bim,
but it is stain e{l with the wear and tear of revclrj-: he ia
the prey of dissolute men and deaj^ing women, who cheat,
and mock, and corrupt him day by daj*. Next eoraes the
retribution, which sooner or later marks every such
career. He has wasted his substance — the goo'd gifts
which his ftither gave hitn. He is entan|::lefl in debt,
in (ii.*tjracc, in ruin. The friends, the fabe friend?,
who clun^ round him as long as he had monev to
give and means to indulge them, turn against liitn.
He is driven into the wilderness by the very oora-
itfinioiis who before were to him the choice of his heart.
Then wo see him in the bare desert. His 6nery has
fallen in tatters about him. He has been transformed
into the emaciated, hungry, half-naked outcast. The
filthy *^win« are feeding around him on the husks of the
f ' It fringe tho arid landiicapu. He is the very
ii "hition .^nd misery. But there is a dawn of
b' . .^i just ^iiible. He is on hh knees; his eyes
*ro niised towards heaven. ITiere is a deep moaning in
them whidi we havf« not df^cernerl before. He is saying
• I will arise and ^' " > rher.* He has s^i^en through
the hollowness of t of earth; he has caught a
glimpse of the hrq ^ r heaven .^.Vnd then, in the
ai.Tth and Ia.st pictim% tlu;re is the blessed return. The
fatlier has gone out to the gateway to meet and embrace
him. The penitent youth has flung bims*jlf on bis knees
before htm. Those eyts which we saw in the desert pas-
tures lifted up towards heaven with a heiivenly h^t
within them, have slill the same deep pathettc meaning ;
hut they are now fixed, not with a vague hope on in-
fmite «paee^ but with a yearning tenderaesi en tbo
ttlMWit
filth. ■ - ' ■ " \
to 1 'ui
aroui.-, ,,.,-, ^':- I--:- -i- -:.--^--- '<i':>fJk
Stall ; the servants pUviug the merry music which
remembered in his chifdhonrL Anrl one other thera
fti II unchanged also. Itl^' '' ' ' 'hip
ruffled dignity and his uit-i : -^
his an moved countenance, -Ipf
on sucli an unhappy scapegrace — on siui^Li a wiid and
less truant should be lavished so much car* and h>'
much iriamph, and so much joy.''
CENTENARIAN' ISM.
Robert HowLKraoK, aged one hundred tnd^
three. The instances having been so frequenti
recorded in the public journals, and eo muiut^
examined in "N. & Q./' the place and date 1
each fresh occurrence ought to be forthwith *
before its board of enquiry.
In hist xMonday's Eeho (Jan. 2S, 1871), I \
the pleasant account of a purae of twe
30 ve reigns having been presented to Roberl
linson of West -Lin ton in Peeblesbire <
hundred imd third birthday. Most COi*diall|
who am in humble expectancy of my nmHy'^
wish my venerable senior " mnltos et felices^''
with the' like testimony attaiihed to every ono
them, E. L. "
[Would some Peeblesshire correspOTident kindly ftin
the e video e« of Robert Ho\vlin*on*s age ? — K©,]
William Webb, of Frome, aged one bund
and live or <on^ hundred and ?ix.
Edwaiu) Couch, of Tnrpoint^ aged one hundii
and ten.
Here is freab food for Mr. Editor's inquirifl
William Webb is said to be now living at rr
having been bom there in 1764: served m tfc
Marines mider Nelson between 1780 and \T^
and then returned to Frome, where he was
ried. Edward Couch ia reported to have died I
Torpoint on Jan. 30, ajred one hundred and 1
was on board the Victory at Trafalgar^ wilj
Lord Howe on June 1, and in receipt of a pens
up to the time of hid death. Surely his story |
easily tested-
[As the cases are so "easily tested,'' wc 1
win undertake to do so. Both cases may bt
bably at the Admiralty. If it is our good fori;.,
under the notice of any gvntlctnan connected
department, perhapa he would kindly infbrm
the records there tell of William Webb and
Couch.— En. ''N, & Q."]
W. OJ
The Strasbttrg Libr.ary. — Great intei«st
felt throughout Germany to make all po«ii%
amends to Strasburg for the loss of its Uh
which, in its reconstruction, will bo henceforth'*'
university librar}\ A suitable locality is alrendj
provided^ and means ensured for obtamtng a *"
printed and rare works, so many of whichj
destroyed in the siege* The University of .
4*aTtf, Fm. IU71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
121
has obtjdne«1 ' lin &om the government to
r;e its du lL tlie service of the libmry.
other cireLim!^uinc68 these duplicated would
hsTe been sold. Fronu»e8 have been received of
ttititributiGns from the University of GuttiDgen
iad horn Dr^en and Bremen. Munich and
VloDiui ftra like- minded, and the Saxon Society of
SoioiieM to Leipzig has made a gift of fiH its pub-
UoatioAA T'Jt.' German booksellera emulate the
pmI of ; bodies: and the great houses of
dotta, 1 1^, Perthes, Duncker and Hum-
blot, Saueriander, Sic. Ac., have nlaced their
talunble publicationa at free choice lor selection.
H- ", of London, wiU use his best efforts
L md America; and Dr, Felix Fliigel^
oi vliile preiM?nting a valuable contribu*
t ijwn Librftry, has promised to interest
Mm^ell' v^ ith the Smithsonian Institute at Wash-
iogtoa for the same purpose. All this is quite
Bi^airal and becoming in a great country like
Gwmony, where literature ia so highly esteemed
ttd cultivated, and which Intenda to incorporate
StUibttig' with the empire. J» Mageat,
p.r. — Durtng the past summer I
1^ i^Ita to a gypsy encampment in
kJ, and upon one occasion ob-
I'Sfl lump of clay baking upon an
j.t4i, I learned, upon inquiry, that it
fowl in process of cooking. After a
\ ' girls removed it from the fire j
it open, I found it to contain a
vi with the feathers still on it. These^
lue oft' with the baked clay, and left
'i fully white and streaming with
countless pore.?. I was pressed
.- ,.«.*^.xv. ..r.,i the untruased head and legs
idoked fto like those of a fowl which had died a
"iTAtiiml rlMath/* that I civilly declined the invi-
'mgh I am a firm believer in the
ii says that "Wliatever does not
latten«." M. D.
^^ ^^""^Tlt .\tIROAD TSf SxARPOBn-
:i? illustrations of **life in
;- ' wTf too pjod to bo coirfined
' ' ■_'. S',ijr<>rfi.</^ ire Advertiser : —
■1 rv -hi of thf present Bishop
J thvf' V H -x 1 i-^hop at Dilston,
1- whiu a lu:"lj<>p wa^f took his
I V for the express purpose
upon the new comer, an-
^^^ dawgg would pin lY,* wlmt-
Hirr, loquitur: * There's bin a
' 'n jiita.' Second coUi«r :
First collier: 'Or, aud
4 tiy;
«l»y, h«*d gtit tuu
' Boy gum i
Ai ...jiiLAjrn Ijlv,
ACojo^AtT, 1809 A3n> 187L — In looking
p. 366, I find the following entry regarding the
Anthropological Society of Paris: *' Stance du 15
juillet lS6y, Gt^oi5ral Faidherbe, Dolmena et
nonimea blonds de la Libye.'*
Li that year so lately parsed this great general
was, therefore, occupied in composing and reading
an antiquarian and philosophical paper, faute m
tfuettx. Can a contrast be greater r H. C. C*
Mummers. —
" A party of mummerB visited tbs towns and viUagat
of North Notts duriDg the pajst fortnij^ht, and highly
diverted the inhabitiinb by their dancing, ainging of old
aon^B, and tho play of the Hohlnj Horse. The latter
play was in 03tiflt«nce in the days of tho P]anCagoneti»
and probably the song^ and tune which they song, vix.f
* When Joon^s ale was new.* *'
This paragraph, from the Newark Advertiser of
Wednesday, January 18, 1871, may be deserving
of a place in your columns, as a proof of the
continued existence of a very ancient custom.
Newark. J. M»
Old Jokes. — A joke is not out of place in
*' N. & Q./' and if I find any which appear to me '
new or rare, I will send them, requesting the
Editor to reject those which he has read in ten
diiferent books or heard from ten diHerent persnna*
A line must be drawn somewhere, and I do not
think that which I propose a very severe one.
I lately heard one educated gentleman tell
another ** one of the best things Canning ever
daid/' He and Lord Dudley arrived at Dover
I from Frnnce, and ordered a rumpsteak while the
I horses were getting ready for their journey toj
I London, Lord Dudley remarked that the meat
was hard. ** Harder where there*s none," said
Canning, The teller laughed, and the hearer
I courteously made a noise as much like laughing
' aa ho coulS, Had a new pupil at Dolbeboya Hall
said *' This meat is hard, lib companionfl would ^
probably have abstained from the response aa too f
stale, 1
On the practice of repeating stories, I take tho i
following from the Lwerpool Weekly Mercury f {
May25, 18(59 : —
*•* The Wilkinson (Ifinncjsota) superior court hBS do-^
dded when a mati is legally drunk. Said the Judge : ' It |
ia not ncccasnry that a man should bo wallowing in a |
ditch, or bumping his head igaiuAt your posts, that you \
may know him to bu drunk; but whenever be begins to t
tell the same thing over twice, then he's drunk.* "
Garrick Club. FlTZHOPXlHS.
"Skebrh^g TJPOiT a GLAv:BGLATTEic."--The
track formed upon ice by sliding is called in the
Fylde district of North Lancashire a " glatten,"
the act of sliding is termed " skerring/' and the
word "glnve," instead of slippery, ia used to ei-
I press the quality of the glatten. 1 ahould b© glar*
to Icnow whether the usage of the above term* i
I confined to the Fylde, or that the^ ^i^^t^^m
i 0 ther dis tricts ? 3 AMJia VtiSkaa^j^ .
ISS
IIES,
[4**S.TrL Fkii.il 71,
SMYTHS OF IRELAJH).
In the course of 101)9 three prelates of the
name of Smrth eat on the Iriah epiHcopftl bench —
Tbomaa Bishop of Limerick, WUliaoi of Eilniore,
fmd Edward of Dovrn and CoDnor; and all the
private or printed pedigrees I have seen make
them members of one family. Three IJeresfords
were Irish bishops together for a considerable
period; and although this did not happen with
the Syn^es, yet, except between 1653 aod 1680
(when no Protestant bishops were consecrated in
Ireland), one and f^eneratly two Syngea held aeea
from 1(J38 to 1771. Still the fact, as regtiTds
the Smyths^ is worth noting. Yet I am not
aatisfiod that they were of the same family^
It Ja true that they and their descendants
alwaya associated on the footing of relatives, but
then their families were certatoly connected by
marriao'es. They were born in neighbouring places:
D and rum in the county of Down, aod Lii*burn on
the borders of Down and Antrim. But wbilst
Archbishop Henry Ussher married Mary Smyth
of Dundrnm, and died in 1613, and whilst Celtic
Smyths can be traced in Antrim a century earlier,
the pedigreea make the episcopal family le^ire
Roasdale, near Pickering, temp. Can L t*rimat©
Margetson came from Yorkshire to Ireland as
chaplain to the nn fortunate Earl of Strafford,
Lord-Deputy in 1633. John Smyths his brother-
in-hiw, was Precentor of Clogher in that year.
He died rector of Enniakillen; and hia will,
proved in England in 1055, shows him to have
Jield property in Craven, in Yorkshire, m well as
in Ireland ; whilst his son's executor William,
Treasurer of Armagh, was the future Bishop of
Kilmore, But whilst this cnntirms the tradi-
tionary descent, he and the Bishop of Down also
using the well-known Yorkshire coat of a bond
between two unicorns' heads, the Bishop of Lime-
rick bore arms almost identical with the uncom-
mon ones of the contemporary citizen family of
Smyth of Hammersmtth, created baronets in 1004 ;
namely^ Qulea, a lion rampant argent^ on a chief
of the aecond, a mullet azure between two tor-
teaui. Can any genealogical correspondent assist
in solving these doubts ? Gobt.
Warfrick Square, S,W,
r.S. I may add, in reference to recent notes on
the apolling of Smtjth ('* N. k Q.,*' 4^" S. tj. 474 ;
vii. 43), that I have met with instances of two
dots placed over the y in Smyth, as suggests
by Sp.
Bishop Alcock. — Wan ted^ particulars of family
and arms of the Right Rev. John Alcock, at first
Biahop of Worcester and afterwards of Ely, about
1480/ J. C.
Bevertev, and rsi.<i«a hinuelf entirdy br hla own nieiit«»
Ho Atoaied at Cara bridge, Krhere he obtained gr«at f
tioction for hii knowl^ge of civil and common law.
1641 he became rector oC Sl Marp*rct, Fish StP
London, and dean of SL Stephen'^ WestminMttr ;
sec rated bishop of RochiMt<T in 1472 ; Jn 1474 wa«
chancellor conjointly with Rothcram, biabop of Linc6^
in 1476 translated* to VVorc«*ter, and in I48B lo **
Hit death o:carred at Wisbech Castle, OcL U 16O0,
he woj} buHed in a stimpttiouB chapel he had er^e^ted 1
himself at the north-eait end of Ely Cathedral. Uis
arms were A. on a chevron between 3 oocka* Ueadi cnueil
S. crested and jalloped G, a mitre O.]
Balltcxtlitait, — Will your obltging rorr«^
spondent Mr. Maitbjce LKxrfiAir, or any of the
nnmeroua readers of *' N. & Q." favour me wi '
the following infonnation : —
L What ia the present name of Ballycolli
or BALLICULLATAlf, AinfA Or ABRA, CO, Tip]
rary ?
2. It is aald that William Cleburne f second
of Thomas Cleburne of Cleburne, co. WVstm
land» by Agnes Lowther of Lowther), who di
seized of the lands of Ballicullatan, Castleto-
Burnadubher and Spriogmount, lies buried io
barron church or abbey (?) near Lough Dei
aod that there is a vault in the chancel under
the east window bearing thw following : —
Ored, A dove and olive branch.
Arms. Arg*. three chevronela braced in baaej
sa. A chief and bordure of the last.
Motto, " Pax et Copia."
GrLTRLMXTS . CLEBURKE . DE
ARMIGER . OMIT . VICKSIMO
MKNSIS . OCTOBRIS * AJTKO *
. BATXlCrLLATA
SllCUWDO . DIB
DOMINI , 1084*
I
ar2
fJobo Alooekiion of WHIiam Aleock, sometime burge
^SJogstfym-apoQ-Uull, and Joan hia wife, waa boca i
le this a correct copy of the inacription, aod
what are the names q\ this William Ulebumij
wife and children P
3. Was Patri'rk Ronayne, the artUt^ a ni
relative of Patrick K^nayne of Annehrook, Queei
town, CO. Cork ? ' Nimro;
Pet)igr^e 0? Pjster Btrt. — I shall be vd
grateful for any information relative to the paren
aize of Pt?ter Birt of Armine, co. York^ %.%
Wenvoe Castle, co. Glamorgrm. lie bore t|
eame arma as Byrte of Dorset, and Birt of IJf
Djrrua, co, Cardigan — viz. Arg. on a chat
gules between three bugle>homa stringed aabh
as many crosaea eroaalet fitch<Se of tbe held.
FORBST-B
*^Bltte Books '* atJOTBB by Bittler, — TVTie
are the " Blue Books *' published by Stockdale I
1812, and quoted by Charles Butler in hia M\
moirs of Enyli&h CathoUci (iv. 66, 57), to l>e se«*u
Also, what is known of the " Red Book,*' a wod
in MS., quoted in the same place P They appej
to have first made their appearance about 1780.
A HeRFOBI> PKARSOirJ
I^odon Library.
^^i a Til. Feb. 11, TL]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
123
Dk SlTK OR Sat. — ^This family derives from an
iDcestcr who accompanied Wilfiam the acquiror
<GOt the conqueror id modem eense, which was
just the last thing he would have de&ired to be
called) from Normandy.
Cao any of yout leanied coTrespondents give
Ke aaj informatioD as to thia family previous to
m cpDiiQesti and also as to its two Dranchea —
le io England and the other in ScotlaDd, where
aome eurppoae it to be the origin of the great family
of Setnn, Saytoune, Seytoun, &c. ; although, as
latter claim from Don gal de So ton (circa
)), which is a Highland Christian name, that
ita a dilHculty, This Dougal is said to have
m son or prandson of the first of the
•utheotically recorded. Lovd Say and
derivea &om De Say in the female line.
Tub "^EatATiCA *' of ,CALnANO.— Can any of
^itr readers refer me to any sources of informa-
lion rvgardio^ the Estatica of Caldaoo^ whose
eit^ (as I learn from the article " Stig-matiaa-
tm,^' Chambers's Encyclopaedia) attracted much
ftUe&tion about thirty years ago P M. D.
TftiDAT Tree," — I have met with thia ei-
pmnoo as being applied in the South of Franca
to ta nnauocessful uodertaking or peraon. Do
JOtt Imoir of any authority for it ? A* S.
**Tir« Grecian Beitd/'— What is the claasic
wthoritv, if any, for thia eipression? The edi-
\>m of tlnna Breitmann's Baliads seem to think
ii quite modern, as they call it —
* K Twent Parift fuJuon, at once Adopted in America.
It l\ iljt* curve made at the back of the body, when
carries herself as if walking iu a perpetual
tit mure than half a century ago the term was
ia use, fts will be seen in the Eimmn (iii. 67) : —
** In persoQ h« vras of the common size, with some-
tiifl^ of tht* Grfcian hend^ coD tract od doubtless from
Kde&ttrjr hAbila/'
W. T. M.
IF^^vTirs. — Will Anglo-Scoius^ Espt^dake^
r learned antiquarian correspondent of
. , «. l^,,'^ obli^ me with the ancestry of Her*
t^T, or Herney, Duke of Orleans a.d. 1006 f
Ai this duchy was vested in the family of
^ t the SlroDg from a.d. 888, I prt'sume any
of Orleans of tenth or eleventh centuries
Attt haTe been a member of the royal family of
Fkiaee.
% The ancestry of the house of Fitz-Hugh f
J^wer (Ptdrmt, BtiL p. 18) states that this sur-
tuae waa not used until temp, Edw. Ill, Yet
Glares, in his HiU, of Cleveland , states that Hugh
(gitat grandson of Alice de Stavelv) *♦ died
32 £dw. L, leaving a son Henry, who being called
Hts*Hagb, oootiQued that name till 4 Hen. VllL^
*hca George FiU-Hugh died/' and the name
became extinct, I also find that Adam de Hervey^
tetnp. Hen, II L, married Juliana, daughter of
John de Fit/- Hugh. Accordinpf to Lower, Bar-
dolph was the lirst of the ftimily of Fitz-Hugh.
His arms, however, were, Azure, three cinquefoils
argent; while those of the latter were, Azure,
three cherronela interlaced in base, or. A chief
of the last.
The early history of the Herveya seems to be
involved in obscuritv* Robert, eon of Ilervey or
HeraeVt Duke of Orleans, ia said to have had
eeverai eons, but we are loft to conjecture whom
they are from a number of Anglo-Norman Her-
veys of the eleventh century, Hervey, Marquis
of'Bri*«tol, and the Clibums of C lib urn -Hervey,
are said to be descended from Herveus tiliua
Hervei, Forrester of the New Forrest and Archels-
garth, 18 Hen, I,, who is also claimed ss the
ancestor of the Butlers, Vide Clarke's Hut, of
Home of Ormmide, But there seems to be some
doubt whether the father of thia Herveus was of
the Orleans family, or a young:er son of Gilbert de
Clare. Will some correspondent of *' N. k Q,"
be kind euough to inform me to which of the
Herveys a moiety of the manor of Cliburn, near
Penrith^ was granted, and when, and by whom
was the "grant made Y In the Pipe Roll 5th of
fc;tepben, Herveus 61 Hervei pays a hoe for erecting
his lands in Amoundreness into manors. Was
Cliburn one of these ? NtMBOD.
Tee Hole in the Well. — There's a very old
inn near the East Gate^ Kitig's Lynn, called tbo
Hole in the Welt — a rather remarkable sign, it
appears to me. The beet chance I gee of solution
or clue is a query in your pages. What is the
origin of it? K. L,
[Thfre were formcrlv iti London three taveroswitb the
sign uf " Hole iu the VVaU" ; but *^ Hole in the Weil '* U
unknown in the history of »igti-boftrd«.)
BimiAL Places of Maiti Bishofb.— In the
Chronicle of Man the burial-places of fourteen
Manx bishops are recorded* Does any other i^-
cord of their burials eiist heeides the chronicle^
or are any remains of their tombs to be foimd r
Two, Chrifitinus and Nicholas, were buried at
Bench or, by which is meant, I suppose, the monas-
tery of St" Comhgall in Ulster, for there were
several moDaateties of that name, one even in the
Isle of Man. Michael was intened at Fountaine,
Reginald or Ronald at Rushin, also a Cistercian
abbey and daughter of Fuiness ; Richard and
William Russell at Fumeps ; Simon and Msrk at
St Gernian*8, Peel, Isle of Man, where nothing,
or next to nothing, hns been done in reference
to those interesting ruins, though a bazaar under
high patronage waa held for the jpurpose of rais-
ing the necessary means. John M*Ivar, or eon of
Ilefare, waa buried at Jervaux, aa Prof. Miinch
rightly supposed, and not at Yarmouth^ la J«ilv\i-
KOTES AND QUERIES-
l4*avjj,FK»
. !ODJf
buried at Peterborough, Tbomaa at Scone, Ber-
nftrd at Kylwynin, said hy Cumming id Ki^Isle of
Man to b« Arbroath, by Oliver ia his Monnmenia
In. Man, to be in Ayrshire. Alaa and Gilbert
M'Cleland were buried at St. Mary'fiy Rothsfty,
lale of Bute. Wimund or Xlamund^ whose erent-
ful history is involyed in much obscurity, wa«
seen by tne historiiin WiUiani of Newborough,
blinded and mutilated at Byland Abbey, Hying
retired, but where he died is not stated. Jolin
Dogan died Bishop of BowB in 1412, and wa«
probably buried in Ireland. A, E. I*.
Ml«9ALB AD USUM LAtrSANNENSBM. — The Vaii-
doia Cantonal Library at Lausanne poi^efises a
rare mi^aaL At the end is printed in red charae*
tera —
** Imprc&ia lausane urb<» aatiquiasimA impensa arte et
induatiiA sokrtis ot iDg«^nio»i viri Mjigistri iohannia
bclot iasi^i civitate, rotLomaf^n ortnm ducvntis nuHa
caJamt cxaratJotic ; ncd qundam artificiosa €hArfl«t«ri'
zandi ac unpritnendi invcntionf^ miftsAlia sntnniA catn
diligcntia pratndata fdbciter nniuDt. Anno aalatiit nostn.
M.cccc, nono^simn tertio, Kalendaadecembriaa tcdent6
r«ver«;ndi8iiiitio prestita Aymone de moatefatcooe lausan :
cpo; et comite prindpcque imperii digniasimo.*'
The alsoTe missal is a folio in Gothic letters,
red and black, double columns, tbirty-eix lines in
a page, woodcuts, has a drawing- made with a
pen. ^me of the leayeB are soiled, and the mar-
ffins have been mended ; the title ia wanting, and
has been supplied by one which belongs to a missal
printed at Lyon8, 1522, John Belot was a printer
at Eouen. What other works did be issue ?
James IIewby Dixos".
Ladt M. Wobtlet MojTTAor'a Lettebs. — ^In
his Curumiie* of Lit^rtUttrc^ under the section
" Kecovery of Slann scripts/' Mr. Isaac Dl>fraeli
says, ''A considerable portion of Lady Mary
Wortley Montagues letters 1 discovered in the
hand.s of an attorney."
Can you or any of your correspondents inform
me whether these letters, which I presume were
diflerent from the weO-knowa letters already
given to the public in 1775, have ever Wen pub-
Uthed ? TuRicET Red.
Tmeobosta Nokl. — Edward Cecil, Viscount
Wimbledon, married Theodosia Noel, daughter of
Sir Andrew Noel, Knt-, of Dalby, co. Leicester.
Waa she an beiressj and what arms would she
bear? J, C.
PiTLiSTOK Family.— WHat family had Edward
Puliston of Allington, co. Denbigh, besides his
daughter Eleanor, who married William TVTieler
of Martin Hussingtree? Edward Puliaton was
married about tlie year 1500. E. W.
Quota TiQiJs wAinrB.-
taken Iromf —
-Where are the following'
** No pent-up Ithaca contracts ycmr power
fiut the whole bomndLesa CoDtineot ia yo
[From M. SewaU*a ProJogue to CaJto.']
** In the fierce light that beats «poa tin ^
[From Tennyaoa'a Bedkatiom tfHk I^fy
« Whose ycsterdaya look backward* ^th a si
Nor, like the Parthiana, wound him aa they
Where do these lines occur P P
Rakklaoh, Wilts, etc. — ^Where cai
information as to the marriage settlemeni
&c,, of the Coles, barons of Ranelagh of N*
CO, Dublin J and of the family of Goring
bridge^hire or Huntingdonabire ?
Ajt Ihq
The Rode op the Wall, Northampt<
** At the south'tr^it comer of the ehurchvmrd,
tho wall of a cotta^^ ia a crucifix, Ap])arefitly t
a crtMS. Tlie same deai^ ia repeated on the o\
There are marka of bulleta in it. Could this 1
ginally formed the apex of Qaeen'a Cross ? '*
So wrote the late Mr. Pretty in Wettcm*
amptoH Guide, The crucifix is still there,
into the wall of the bouse which supeise
cottage. Mr, Pretty, a careful and conad
antiquary, in all probability saw it
taken down; otherwise it would not
know that the aculpturo was rep(
other side. The fact that it was so supfQ
conjecture that Jt may have been the en
atone to Queen's Cross. Rut in ** Tl '
of Payments,-' 1611 {LeUern anil
mid DomeMkj in thB Meign of Hettn/ i ui^^
part n.), ia an entry purportinj^ that, <mJ
the king was at PjTJwell Abbey ; and am<
expenses between tnat time and the lOtl
'' offerings at the Rode of the Wall in Non
ton, at Our Lady of Grace there, and at eon
Leicester Abbey/* "Our Lady of Grace
the church, long since destroyed, of the ]
Virgin in St. Mary Street. Is it posaiW
the sciilpture in St, Sepiikhre's Churchy ft
the *' Rode of the Wall " of the chtirch
Mary's Street ? When the church wm dof
the materials were no doubt used far other
ing?, and the distance from St, Mary'a St
St. Sepulchre'i^ Churchyard h not consgd<
I am not aware that any mention of ^ Th(
of the Wall -^ occurs in any history of Norl
ton, or in any place but the ^* fang's B
Payments." G. J. De W
SivR AKD THE Whttrbots. — In the Cbfi
dmce of the Riijht Hmi. Edmtmd Burke (l.
find the followin«^ in the j>08tscript of a le
Chief Justice Aston to Mr. Secretanr Ha:;
and dated DubEn, June 34, 1762, witJi ! —
certmn secret aocietiea of the perio ~
CL conaci
it whtt
notjM
pea^
3, Willi ni
NOTES AND QUERIES.
125
ien mn oatb was imposed on any, it irms to bn true
md her childim ; and not to disocnrer tny of th«
'haj% her cliildren/'
Who was Sive? And liow did tho name
originatej and haa it any connection with fSivn.] tli*j
Hindoo divinityj the goddess of dostruction ? H.
Slawkenbebqius^s **Tb£.\tise on NoKEa"—
Who was Slawkenbergius mentioned b Trustram
\ , and ia there auch a book as his Treatuc
baaif EnnrxD M. BortE.
SUwIcenbefgiui is altogether an imaguuir)' person,
aad th«re doM not exist any sucU Trtatue on NoMe$ by
huir. SlcmeB laarning and humour upon that mbject
are helie^r«d to have beui borrowed partly from Ernsmui^'s
Colloquy between Pamphagus and Codes, Tie QtjytandU
S^pttntotiiM, and partly from the Ntuta of Arettne. See
fMier Fitriar on Strnte^ p. 151 rt id},]
SiTTTH, tiiia^ IIemz of TVithcotk, Leicester-
asmK: Smyth of Rathcottrsey, co. Cohk. —
id you or any of your corre^pondenta kindly
the connecting link between the above
\? The first trace I have of the Irish
ia taken from a MS. in Trinity Callege,
iV"" '-'^nilve to the marriage of ** Francis
;tbcour«ey ^s-ith Mftria^ d'' of Beverly
. . . . uianes^ co. Watcrford, Esq.'* Date
giF«&f but might he about 1070. The first
' I hare any note of is that of their child
ag«d three months^ who died J 075, and
! TsaTr he en, I think, the first that took place
m-, as an inscribed slab of marble
Lirial-place in Cloyne Cathedml*
I r haa the original ^Tant of arm§ to
I i «1f, Heriz — viz. " lie beareth gule^i,
ni^ruij guide betwixt three besaimta, upon the
three crosses forme pitched eable, a.d.
And to lioger S. or Heriit, jrrautof crest —
hifl helmet, on a torse ^old and geulefi,
irty per pale gnlde and
i I grilfin*3 head rased
tned and ered geulea,
' oV 8,
AuN uii 'iMiL^iMj V. iii u-j ibankfully received hy
John J. Smyth.
l:ai[irnnf»M?\*^ Ballin&csrra, co* Cork.
Y <^F A Staxd^ — iKQUiBEfi Wishes toknow
of your corref pondeate inform him where
isnd the follo^ving leg-end or piece of
\ lover, about to be mfirried, on the
f^' the weddin;r puts the ring on a
);(arden, and when he goes far it it is
or he is unahle to get itolT* aud^af tor-
haunted by the etatue, Sec, Aiao,
iithor of the pieC43 ?
ii-nd-^nt probably tehtn to a poem by
ubliflhed itinon^ hii Juveniie PmmM
a tale, which will be found at p. 281
" 11 of Moor*i's Fifctieal Works,
iinded it upon a story told by
ifiann in hi* work upon Faacijia-
lb«,baolc m. pt. ti. eh. xviiit whilf? Frommann
iCi atttbority Vln£ent de Ucauvaia.!
THE DRAGON.
(4»^ a vii. 12.)
The earliest known delineations of t)ie dragon
are, I believe, Chinese. It is represented with
four legs in all the early specimens I have seen.
The following note is taken from Marryat'si/fW^r^
of Pottery mvd Porcelain, p. 217, on the word
"dragon":—
**Tbe origin of the dragona and similar ilgiuras de-
pleted upon the Chinese as well as the E^^-ptian pottery
19 a mystery* ITie Chinese earn-" back the ori|^n to the
time of Fuh-hfl (B,r* 2962), who is supposed to Iiave
ween a dra<2[on Issue from a river in the province of
Honan^ and it was then adopted as the national ttatiiiard.
It i» this dragon (Lanpf) which is yearly honoured by the
* Fea:»t of Lan tenia.* Some writers suppose the dragon to
be a aymboUcal representation of the principle of evil,
which "was worshipped hy t!ic Bni.^lent Ch.iMeeR, ynd
foand iiiir way from thence into China and other coun-
tries, even to the New World, where their religion ex-
tended ; and, from being^ first titled a^ a ^jnibol, en me in
time to be considered as a reality. ChriHtiuii paiiiterft
seem to have literally adopted this idea, a* in the pictures
of St, Michael, who i* reprraented as having felled to
the (ground and 6xed with his lance a dragon, which.
j«ym£>Ucal of the enemy of the human race, was vomited
from the infFrnal pit. In the Romish Church, on Eoj^a-
tion Sunday until a late period, a large figure of a
dragon waa carried in proeeseion, being considered an
emblem of heresy. The devil, it will be recollected, is fre-
cjuently called * the dragon ' in ScnjUure. Tht> pnvalence
ofdraeontic ornaoittits on ancient .sculpturt in EnLrland
of the Saxon or early Norman period, a* also in Ireland,
11$ well a£ the scrpeut onaamentalion of the Northern
antiquaries, deserves notice* Possibly the origin of tho
former may hove been Oriental, On the other hand
MO me writers oonftid*T the dragon to be no mere Ipcrtnid,
and refer to the fosaii remains of the Saurian irilje, whiL'h,
allowing for some exaggeration and embelli^hmeut, may
be considered of the same race/*
It 19 remarkable that hotb Cornwall and Brit-
tany should have those twin St, Michael Moimta
g:uarding (as it were) their coasts^ Has tJie esta-
blii^hmeut of those churches any connection with
a conquest achieved by Christjaiiity over the ser-
pent worship which prevailed in those parts,
signs of which may to this day he traced on both
sides of the Chatmel P ' Z. Z,
The earliest delineations of the dragon partook
chiefly of the character of a serpent, having gene-
rally a long serpentine tail. In the early figures
of the dragon, two legs were much more common
than four. , F. C. H.
There is a picttire of a sea- dragon (Draco mart^
mm) in an edition of Dioscoride^ of the date 1543,
Butithasno legs apparently; only two pairs of
wings and a long tail cleft at the tip, and set with
a row of poisonous thorns, There b a strong
horn, too, hetween its eyes. If a sea-dragon
were hut the tadpole of a land-dragon, H, D.'s
126
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«» S. Vn. Fki, ]
que«tion could be answered at once, for of course
tiie tail would in that caae be exchanged for ttpo
pair* of teff* in due course, after ibe orthodox
tadpole fafihtoQ. Maeoaeei GjLTTr.
The earlieat delineatioo of this beaat seems to
be that of the " Dragon Standard ** of the Bayeui
tapeaitrv. This is figured bv Mr. rianch^ at p. 1»8
of his /Vr*MtV/iw/ of Arms. It has two le^^a. Notices
of the dragon are found in Parker's Glatmty^
Willement, and Montagu, J* C, Roger,
SAMPLEES.
(4*^8. Ti. 600; Tii. 210
The liuea worked on a sampler^ and inquired
about by X A. Pn., are about the commonest to
be met with in this youthful kind of art. The
aecond line, however, has been adapted to suit
the joung lady's name. It usually stands thus i —
•* Jifsu^ pennit thy gracious name to stAnil
Aa the tlrst efTurt of « youthful haad," &c
I feel some difTieulty in eigning'; my initials
and terminalH happening to be exactly' those of
your correspondent, J. A. Pji. (2).
I have before me two very pretty old specimens
of samplers, worked lespectiTely by my wife's
frraDdm other and my owa To begin with hers,
ft contains within a nmrgio of cArnations^ first^
the Lord's Prayer, and then, in three divisions,
the following posies : —
** During the time of life allott^ mc.
Grant me^ ^cmkI God, my health and Hl^rtr :
I beg no more ; if more thou'rt pIcaVd to givei
1*11 thankfully the overplus receive."
•* Bemember time will come when we must rive
AeoouDt to God how we on earth do live.*'
*• A man that doth on ticheA tmi hia mind
Strives to tike hoM on nhadows and the wind ;
With food and raiment then contented be ;
Ask not for richets nor for poverty."
" Anh Stop hart
Finished this sampler in the tenth year of her age, in
the year of cur Lord God mdocxlviii/*
My own graDdmother^s is rather more elabor-
at^ely ornamented with lions (blue, red, and yellow)
and magnificent fiowering shrubs ; but only con-
tains, bender alphabets, the followiQg songi —
" You whose fond wishes do to heaven aspire.
Who make thodo blest abodiia yoar sole desire.
If you are wise, and hope that bliss to gain.
Use well your time, live not an boar in vara ;
I^t not the morrow vour vain thoufhts employ.
Bat think this day thts last you shall enjoy.
*" SoFBia RaLSBT her work, 1751,**
C. W, BlKGHAJL
I have three samplers worked by my mother,
0U aae of wMch are lines^ almost word'for word.
similar to those quoted by J. A. Pn. And aa M. I
{P^ S. vi. 500) suggests the idea that such ^
Uibutions to ** N. & Q." •* would not be C
interest, I send those on the other two i
" From my heginning may the Almighty Powoft
Btewings beuitow in never-ceasing sbowenit
Oh ! may 1 happy be and always blest.
Of evVy'joy, of eV'ry wish posMM*d j
'May plenty dissipate all worldly cares, _
Anh smiling Peace bless my revolving yeara."
•* If you desire to woirahip God aright,
Fint in the morning prav, and last at night j
Crave for his bleiEsing on your laboors aU^
And in distress for his iSAbtanee call.'*
The datea on the samplers are 1803 and 1604.
M. A, S*
frmS^
OOBNISH SPOKEN IN DEVONSHIHE.
(4"* a vii. 11.)
Your correfpondent will find in Professor
Muller*s recently published (vol. iii.) Chifiw ff
a Gt^nan Workslwp a Tcrjr intereating account of
the Cornish language and its vitality. He aayt:^ —
"Although Comiih must now be claseed with the tz^
tinct languages, it has e«rtainly shown a marvelloits
vitality. More than four hundred years of Roman ocoup*
nation^ more than six: handrfsd years of Saaon and
Danish sway, a Norman conquest, a Saxon reformalioii»
and civil wars ha\X' all pasied over the land -, bui, like a
troe that may bend before a storm but is not to be rooted
up, the language of the Celts of Cornwall has lived on *
an unbrokffli continuity for at least 2000 years. W
do<>s this mean ? It means that through the
Kngli«h hbtoiy to Ibe accessioa of the House of
the inhabitants of Cornwall and the wtttem pari
DevonMhire^ in spite of intennarHages with Ri
Ba&ons, and Normans, were CclU and remain inI Cd
..... The inhfthitanu of Cornwall, whatever the nuiO'
her of Roman, Saxon, Danish, or Norman settlem withhl
the houndaries of that county may have been, oontilioad
to be Celts as long as they spoke 'Comisb. They ceased
to be Celts when they ceased to speak the langui^joC
their forcfathcffi. Those who can appreciato the
of genuine antiquity will not. therefore, find fai
the enihusiAfim of Daines Barrington or Sir
Banks in ILsti^ning to the strange utterances of
Prntrenth; for her laogoage, if genuine, carrieit
baek and brought thein, as it were, into immedj
tact with people who. long before the Chrinttmn
acted an important part on the stagv of history,
ing the world with two of the most precious
more precious then than pold or silver — with copi
tin — the very mat^mls, it may be, of the liuest *
art in Greece, ay, of the armour wrought for the hi
of the Trojan war, as described so minutely by the
oflbe//«fui;'
Dr. Bannister is collecting materials for a glos-
sary of Cornish proper names, and haa c^ll
no lesa than 2400 existing namea with Tre^
withPtffi, with 400 iZos, ^c, and thus Comii^h Iiv
on. Andrew Borde tells us (temp. Hen. VHL'
that English was not then understood by .
people in Cornwall. Devon and ComTaJt
signed a petition to that king n^;ainat the
ductioQ of a new church lervioa compoaed
NOTES AND QUERIES.
127
tigliah, in which tins fact is also mentioned. | and chess-rooks emhlftzoned on their anus.
Borlii^, in his Xtit. Hift. of Cttrtiwatl (315), say* I Blount^ in his Frat/mmUi AMputati«^ states that
that as late as 1040 Mr. William Jackman, the | in the rei^ of Edward III. the manor of Ktn^-
TiciiT of Feoclc, was ohliged to administer the j ston litijj&ell, in Dorstjt, waa held hy Xiehola, who
iacrament in Comi^^h because the aged people did
not understand English, and the rector of Lande-
WFdnak preached his sermons in Cornish as late aa
)6T8. Ihe keeper of th© Ashmolean Museum^
Mr. £. Lhuyd, published a gTamniHr oF the Ian-
gaage in 1707 collected from old people^ but ho
ttTH it was then fast decajang.
1?rijDCft Louis Lucien Bonaparte erected in 1800
» monument in the church yard at Paul to Dorothv
Pentreath, who died in 1*78, and waa lupposed
%A have been the last ]3erson who conversed in
the language. Prof. Max Miiller sajs there are
Baa J people m Cornwall who nuiintaLn that
^ !a p«r*on3 came to hear her talk she would
anything that came into her head* She was
' jTed tci be 102 years of age at her death ; but
f. llalUwell has examined the reg-lster, and from
date of her baptism enncludea she was not
mare than wxty-four at the time of her death.
It 11 probable that no one now lining has erer
hati Cornish spoken for the sake of conversa^
^~ ** iwen says: —
is not to be gtittarally pmncunped^ aa the
the mmt part is^ nor mutteriugly, us the
£«aor mhininglj. as the Irish, but mu&t belivdy
[maaly fpokeot like other primitivo tongues.^'
Miiller says that three or four small
ea would ctintain all that is left to n» of
lish literature. MSS, of a poem on '* Mount
ascrihc'd to the fifteenth century^ exist
Brilish Museum and Bodleian, and MSi^,
^ piays of the same date in the Bodleian
ym publianed hy Mr, Norris in 185^» Accord-
to C&rew these plays were performed in
liah at the beginning of the seventeenlh cen-
To these may be added versions of the
■s Prayer, Commandments, Creed, &c.
After these facts it is not unreasonable to sup*
M that Cornish was spoken in some parts of
bnoQshire after the Norman ConqueBt.
John PiggoT| Jun., F.S,A,
CHESS IN ENGLAND AND CHINA.
(4«'» S. vii, 34.)
There ifl no small uncertainty as to the exact
~ 1 of the advent of chess into this island. Dr.
in his learned treatise, De Ludis Orienta-
L fiuppoees it to have been known here about
He of the Oonqueet, from the Court of
, ^jjner baring been then first established.
Dabea Barrington dilfers from this opinion^ and
!i in favour of a later date, but admits that the
waa wife of Nicholas do Moateshore, on condi-
tion—
** to count or tell out the kinp's cLcastneti in hk chain*
bcTt and to put tbctn in a ba^ when the kin^r ah^jutd tiii%-e
fmbhed ikiii ^farae : A<1 imrraod. fBrailiara Scacchii liegis,
et ponend. in locub cum Bex ludum aiiuin pcrfecerit,"
I am inclined to believe, however, that chess
was known in England at a much earlier dat©
than either Ilyde or Barriugton arc disposed to
allow, and in this view 1 aui supported by the
high authority of Sir F. Madden, wLo says : —
** Nothings inde^fl^ h moi> probable than the ititrodiic-
tion of ehea* into Knglnful by the Daneii, and we tiannot
refer it lo a more suitable period tbaa ihe reigu of Canute
hiuiMif."
Professor D. Forbes, after reviewing the evideoc©
pro and t(m, considers it ** extremely probable that
chess was introduced into Eiiglnnd'in the reign of
Athelstaue, between A.i>. 025 and A.i>. 940.'*
Chess appears to have been well known in this
country in the time of the Plantagenets. Our
earliest antiquarian writer, tho indefatigable Le-
land, has an anecdote in his Colkctanea about the
chesa-play of King John. He says : —
** John son of King Henn^, and Fulco fello at rariance
at ChoitGJ, and John brake'Fulco's head with the chest-
borde; and thpti Fulco gave him such a blow that he
almost kjllid bym,"
Edward L was a chess-player from his earliest
youth, and pospesaed a set of men made of jasp«r
and crystal » From that curious book the PadOH
Letters, h would seem that chess wa? a favourite
gam*3 in bouses of rank^em/j, Richard II. On one
occasion Mrs. Paaton writes to her husband i —
"The Lady Mor!t!j Imn no harpings and luteings dur-
ing Chrbtmus, but oolj playing at tables and chca:}."
Several of the royal raee of Stuart were ac-
quainted with chess. In the Register House of
Edinburgh there is preserved an inventory of the
personal eflects of the unhappy Queen Mary,
which must have been left in the castle when ah©
was sent to Lochleven, This inventory contains
three aets of chessmen, and two works on the
game. One set is described as *' Ane quhite buist
with chas men in personages of woid '^ — i. e, a
white box with wooden cheaamen. One of the
books is intituled The play of the Cha»j and was
no doubt Caxton^s volume, then a comparatively
recent publication. That learned pedant James 1.
patronised chess. In a speech of nia anioi advert-
ing on some books written by Cowel and Black-
wood, he sayi : —
gime must
Udr pexic
^^ 1 * u*.*^TT'iJi. I ^Tbe power ol Vlum b in the hiindn nf the IrfitdL
must have been brought to England a an Xbtv .an Ualt law thing* audaW.t.^i^j;VV\^vx?Nm^Vx^^
pejiod of our Iwiji^rf, A? no fewer thaa j tlie itibjects like men aicUe^Na V.i^a\M\.ftki!;^\ii\^V^^&
Eif^JiMh Mauhes hare cheas-ho^rds I n Knight."
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'^S.VII. FM.a,71.
1
The unfortunate Charles I. was an ardent chesa-
player^ and is mentioned in an old English^ trans-
lation of Greco^a work on the jyame in my
poseesaion as Imring constantly ufted it as a recre-
ation. TheiB are in the Library of the Britbli
Museum some diaries kept by Captain R, 8y-
monds, a royalist officer, in one ol which it is
fltated— " Hound about ye King's chesa-hoard this
verse : —
* Subdltus et princeps iatifl sine sanguine ccrtenl/ "
The date 1G43 is on the hoard, and the line con-
tains, no doubtf touching allusion to the state of
the poor king*fi own fortunes.
n, A. KsiofBDr..
Eldoa Home, Rending.
The date of the introduction of cheas into China
seems to be very uncertain. P^re du 1 1 aide, in
his voluniinous work on China, under the heading
of " Extraiu d'une Compilation fuite sous la
dynastie Minf/f par un lettrt** ciJl^bre de cette
dynastie nonun^ Tawj-Jun^^Tchumf*^ gives the
following : —
** Un aateur parlant du jcu iles (Rebecs, qni tisi le beau
jeu de la Obinct dit oe qui ftuit: — <^uelqiie.s gens ont dit
?ae le jeu des ^beos venoit de l^Empereur Yao^ et que ce
'riaoe Tavoit inyeof€ pour iustruire 6on din daaa Tart
dc gouveraer les peunles, et de fnire la guerr« ; mais
lien de moiaa vraisemblable. Le grand art de Yao con>
flistoit dans la pratique eooiinueUc dei cinq rertus prio*
cipatesj dont rexercice lui ^loit hxxsaI f^milier que Test k
tons les iiommci rusngc dc* pied* ct de^ iituiui. Ce fut
la v€'Ttu et non les arnies qu'il em ploy a pour rtfJnire lea
pHuplea le& plus barbarcs. L'art de k guerrt?, dont Icjcu
clc# 6c\\ecA est comme une image, est Tart de 9^ nuire lea
iins aux autrcfl. J'ao e'loit bien <^ioigiie do donner ik ion
filB de pareilles leyons. Lo jeu de& ^bccs n*iv sflns d(mle
commence que depuis ces tcmfl ninlhcureux ou fct^ut rEtn-
pirc fut diaole'par les gnerres. C'eat uiie invention tre,s-
pcu digue du grand VaoJ* — Description da la Chine
(4 rob. ^to. Ia Have, 173G), ii. TBO,
The Emperor Yao reigned in the traditionary
period about 2300 B.C. His name in full is
T'ang-ti Yflu.
The Ming drnasty, Ming-chaii, lasted from
A.i>. 1368 to l<i44.
The following anecdotje concerning Ming-tf,
sixth emperor of the Pe Sung or •'Northern
Sung" djrnasty, has reference to this subject : —
" One of Im best oflicere, Wang-kin j^-rucn» wished t^
iwtire fnjm court, not bcinf able to endure all the cniel-
ifea which wore daily committetb The emperor now
began to fear for his aafety, ond sent the nnp wiih pot «uu
to this object of bin susptcion, wli ' ' wils
playing Rt chess, nnd emptied it v 1 lif-
fterence."^ — Seethe Iie^%ChttTlc^(jut/i! /.iry
(2 voli. 8vo, London* 1834), L 295,
The Emperor Ming-ti reigned from a.d. 465
to 478.
Respecting the modem game Sir John Davis
saye:^ —
"The Chinese chess differs in board, men, and moree
flrom tluii of India, and cannot in my way be identified
with it, except us bcin^ a game of akfll and n&t of
chan<!e."^77i<f Chitmt (edit. 1S44), ii. 8K
Marldtam Houee, BHgbion.
LhliahalH
LADY GRIMSTON^S GRAVE IK T£WI
CHUKCHYAED.
(4*^ S. vii. 76.)
I heg to suhjoin a printed description, puhliahe^-
hy Austin of Hertford, which I know to be coi^
rect, though I dilTer from it in one part, belieTing
that the ash and sYcauiore trees have grown from
the de«da, the keys hann^ fallen from the trees of
the adjoining warren (foimerlj the seat of General
Sahine, governor of Gibraltar — the mansion taken
doTm in 1807 by the then Earl Cow per), an
grew from between the joints of the stone copin
of the tomb ; being left undiaiturbed, in the coorai
of years became the lofty treea they now are.
they had sprang from the vault, aa sug^eate
made ono hundred and sixty years, the girth i
the trees would have been much larger tha__
those of the present ai'e. As an illustration of
their prohuble origin, a few years since I pulled
up a young aycamore that had grown from be-
tween tho jointa of the stonework round my
father*8 grave, which lies under the shadow of t'
trees of the Grirastons^ tomb. The prtat sij
larity consists in the lower part of the 1
having becume so amalgamatea together^ that ii
is impossible to distinguish where tbe bark of th*'
ash (lighter than the sycamore) ends, aij»I Uigt of
the sycamore cammences.
*' Tire Tosuj OF i.AnT AXKK niuMSTOK, m Tua
CHracHYARn of tewi»» uuitTFouDsniaE,
■* Diflplays one of the most extraordinary and romanlie
of those freiika in which it is proverbiiil that Dame J
dtsJigbtii. The majonry of ttio tomb— once firoil
and Unrnd with iron pins together — i» now difijoia||j|
^' ' , not by time or decay, but by the imsr"'
tree» never plantcfl by lumian haad
- , ' which the tomb presents is most «
WjUdn» and iiitcrUciog the iron miling mrrouuil
tomb, are seven aab tr^f^, fonntcted at the rantj an
rt/cnnwres, alto r ' //«: ro*?t. Thes<? troes, I
luuc dfiily ijroi^ 1 \ ed up the stonework j
lomb, fordnf; it - r L^me diJHt4ncf^and m
nround thi) iron rmlinj^, wldi^b, in some pUcet, ai^
pictely imbedded and bidden in tho trunks of tlM.
The trw«, at their base, al^o pasa through ami di
stonework, aa Ibouph it were a maaa of earth.
"It ia conjectured — and on no other eujtpositifl
tbcBc marvelloiiB Appearances bo accounted for— that, i
a pericHl antecedent to the erection of the tomb» the fled
of the now full-grown trees must have been depoAtiMl I
the \nult ljtne.itb; and there gerrainatinjr, forwNl ('
way toward.'* the lights silently nnd p^rnduallv dii]jl
the muionry above— and then embracing and 1
the tomb tbey bad di^lurbrd.
**The tupe'rattti ^ > v. .., „ i^ ^
aantzT of the h
appearaneeA so n
legend to their sons, in which it k^ 6ou;jiii to 4ocouui I
NOTES AND QUERIES.
129
the phenomeaoiL The ftorj is m simple one : — It is said
thAt Lady Anne was an unbeliever,— so confident in the
iUlachood of Christiaoitj' and of the Bible, that she was
wont to saT that, * if the Sacred fiook were true, eevea
wth treea wonld grow oot of her tomb.' The reatilt, evi-
daiiljT — aa in manj atmiiar cases'^paoe rue to tha lejfend*
Whether Lady Anne were bo unbdieving aa is ropre-
tcnted, we have no meana of positivdy aacertaininj^, but
it is reiT unlikely; and, in th«e daya, we require no
andi aolation of appearnnoes, which, however unuflual,
w mm ooatflni to ngard aa beautiful illtiatratijjQs of
Mtatnllftwa.
*Tlie following inacHption ia still legible on the
HTBK UISTH I2ITKRRKD TlIJL' BODY OF
TUB EIGHT HOaOURABLJ! l.AJ>Y AX»B URUfSTOW,
TO STB aAJfXTRT. ORTMIfroM, DART., OF OORIlAMBUIEYf
Iir UKRTFORTiSDiUKf
I f uUMarWLU TO TITE LATK RIGHT HONOCRABLB
^^K EARL OP rilAmTTt
^^m WSO HKPARTF^ TfllS LIFE NOV. 22XD, 1713,
^^B m XEIE 60TA 1£AR of UT.R AGE."
D. D- HoPKTNB, F.S.A.
it is leillj the treCi or what are the treesi
ow out of or about this grave P A, P, S.
' " one a>*h '^ the Spirifitai Times speaks
I elms*'; and the Flora Ilcrt/ortHensiti, a
TMit iRwtworthy work, aays of the Acer pBeutlo'
ft^imu, OT sycamore ; —
*lnTew!n churchyard are fsome self-sown treea, grow-
^loi^try rrmArkable manner, around and about the
^biif Lady Anne (•rirni>ton, and having in their growth
^MiwJ the masonry of the tomb and ironwork/'
Tbe difcrepancies in the legend given in these
dvM accounts are equally striking. A. P. S.
Baina ImAt Grimstou a do'ubta refer to tbe exi«rt-
tncfi of a future state, aDd repreeeuta her as ex-
JhMag *^ a wish or prayer " that, if such existed,
"* tree itdgbt grow out of her heart." The
^firibiaJ Times staters that fihe waa an AtbeiKt,
iid that ** ber last words were to tbe effect that,
tf God exifltedj aevea elm tn^ea would grow out
ffhwr iamhsUmeJ* Tbe Flora, quoting the MerU
f^ TitFim^ aays that " Lady Anne was an unbe-
Wer^ uid was wont to Mr that, if the Sacred
Ifeok were true, seven a^b trees would grow out
"f her tomb." It may be difficult, though I hope
a»t impo^4^ible, to trace this *' raanellous legend"
^ ita &>»m?e, and to ascertain which of the above
ns (if any) is correct ; but there can be no
icultj in determining whether one or seven
iw there, and whether these are sycamorea,
p elms. Jameb Bbiixeil
mbmitted the above to our oorrespondent
B«t we ri*cvived from him tliv following.^
_The additional statementfl respecting the tomb
iy Anne f^rimston are very curious. Perhaps
» sake of clearing awny needless comments,
y be well to state that, iu speaking* of n single
ij I meant anix to express what appeared ,
to be the fact^ viz. that the aeven or nine stems
(it is difficult to divida them accurately) seemed
to spring from a eingl© root under the gravestone.
If two of these stems are not fu»h, but sycamore^
then there must, of course, be two trees,
I told the story of Lady Anne's belief or mis-
belief aa it was told to me, and do not profess
(nor indeed is it necesaary) to reconcile it with
the other part of tlie story.
I m!ty add, that I have wnce been informed by
penons who know the neighbourhood well, that^
so far from having been an infidel, she was a
devout charitable lady, given to good works.
Probably this can be easily substantiated,
A. P. S.
[We have reason to know that, besides her legacies to
a church school, abundant e video oe exista of both the
Christian life aod Chrintian faith of Lady Anne Grim-
ston. The tradition is no doubt one of a very common
class of legends— namd^, thoee invented to accouat fo^
unusual phcnomenOd — Ed, ** N. & Q."]
THE SPELLING OF TTNDALE^S NEW TESTA-
MENT, SECOND EDITION.
(4"» S. vii, 30.)
The curious spellings of which Mr, Fry gires
seTeral specimens, reminded me at once of those
employed by Churchyard in, I believe, several of
his works, but certainly in his Chips publbhed in
1575, Churchyard writes fffWfUt fraem^ maedf
hlaese^ gaH^ icaek^ waer, haer^ mem, by simple
transpo,iition of the iinal <% for game ^ frame ^ made,
hhize^ i&c., and also kaek for cuke^ and gnftj and
raeg for gaije and rage. The main diiierence be-
tween the spelling in these instancea and in those
from Tyndale ia, that tbe latter both interpolate
€ and preserve it as a final, e.g. gans, graerc,
nmedfif »aek€^ iaehi^ &c. ; while we also find in Mr,
FRr's list had and taed. But Churchyard aa
well as Tyndale modifies o into t>f, and bo we
have roeit, rloes^ boen«, doen^ noes, it^noekj for row,
clothe^} bonei*, Mione, nom, smoke^ and also hef^ coestf
blaedf po^\ for ioo/J coad, hlood, poor*
How far these' pec uliaritiys represent anything
more than Churcliyard's own fiuides, it may be
difiicult positively to say j but that there was some
method in the madness — if madness it were^ i
there can be but little doubt Ho certainly meant j
Ma spelling to be phonetic, and by writing a long I
as ae, seems to have protested against the a^urap-
tion that the long Ecplish a of the sixteenth cen-
tury was to be generally identified with the Con-
tinental o of the same and of the present time,
Mr. Ellis, in his very valuable treatise on Earh/
English Pronunciation^ after a minute discussion of
the authorities, comes to the conclusion that tbe
long a of the sixteenth century was the a lu father.
This conclusion is evidently incommtvVAfc ^\3q.
Churchyard's practice, lie tio ^q\vg\. xa^^siX V^
give to tbe Off in gam, &e,, t\ie» aovix^^ Vo^^^ft.'W^
l)eloDged to ae, whether Latin or Early EogUsb,
from time immemorial down to the Bixteenth
centary^ xh, that of at in nim : a sound which, on
the other hand/ cannot well bo separated^ in early
English nsflgo, from that of ea in (/reaty which ia
doubtless traditional Whether Churchyard, in
thas pronouncing the words in question, is to be
considered a« a conservator or an innovator, U of
course a very interesting question » which, how-
ever, it would take dome time to diBCUsa fully,
eapecially as it open* out into others of great diffi-
culty. I'heso spellinga from Tyndale of fifty yeara
before appear to be interpretahle on the same prin-
ciple; but then the admission of the principle
involves thia problem amongst others, When did
the French a, ns in ^race — which in all probabilitv
was pronounced in the thirteenth and fourteenth
centuries as it is now, and rhvined with alas^
change into a*, 8o as to jujetify 'fy^dale's pronun-
ciation = ^«iV!c f The attempt to resolve thia
problem would necessarily lead to some in vest i-
gtitione of a very general tendency iiianifeat in
French, and especially in dialectic French ; to
change the a into the ai sound, as when amare
becomes aimer, acer aiffr^f Sec. ; and in patois, bos
appears bais, egar^ as egmri^ bague aa baigite^
courage as couraige^ &c. Such inquiries, how-
ever, we cannot now pursue. It is to bo regretted
that Mr. Ellis did not handle Churchyard's
phonetic sptdlmg. J. Payne.
Kildare Gardens.
"Tnres WmsTLB,'* etc. C^*** S. vii. 97.)— In
reply to Mr. CowrER's first query let me otter the
following : —
** A Carrier to a King \ or Dootour Carrier (Chaplayne
to P. James of ha|>py Memory), Ms Motiuca for re-
nouncing tlic Protectant Relij^ion And perrniading to Re-
vnion with the Cath.-Roman- Direcrcd to his Sacred
Mniestif!. ' l/iy hart 1.1 Endyting n good matter : I tell
my deeds vnto tiie, Kiog.* Pa. xliv/*— Perwttm Supe^
riorum, 1635.
Mv little book is a reprint of the original "Mis-
sine * dated from Liege, 1613, and embodied in
** An tn^^wcns to a Treatise written by Dr, Carler* by
way iif Letter to hi* Maie^itie^ wherein he laj'eth down
Sundry Politike C^nsideraiioni Pretending himaelfe and
Emlcavotirinic to move othere to be reconciled to the
Church of Rome, by G. Hakewa, Chaplain to Prince
Jttme«." Lond,: Bill^ 1616, ito.
Dr. Carrier in this hook relates how stnctly he
was brought np in the reformed relimon ; how he
came to have his miadvings a^ to ita l)eing the
true church, and finally, notwi the landing the
proapect of ** higher eccleaiastical dignitica,** he
took the advantage of going over to Rome while
abroad upon sick-certificate. Ilia admission that
** the more I laboured to reconcile the rfsligion of
England to Scripture and the Fathers, the more
J was difiUked^ Auspected, and condemned as ft
common enemy," certainly did not proniij»e him
much promotion, but which clearly identilies hlj
as the WTudie^s covert papist. Dr. C. labours
excuse himself to King Jamea, and perhans kno
ing that his sacred majesty and some aoout hii
wero inclining that way, tries to wheedle
British Solomon into following his example, ai
60 to put down schknie and all ita attendant evi
Carrier is of opinion that there is very little c"
ference between the Mass Book and the Angii(
Liturgy, and thinks tho matter might be easil]
adjusted if the Puritans and Calvinistswere toa
overboard. At page 126 of edit* 1635 he goes
far as to intimate that he is authorised by some
of the greatest to say that if James would acknow-
ledge the Pope, that the latter would meet him
liberally by conforming the interest of incumbents
in their church livings, and further permit the
free use of the Common Prayer in England with
very little or no alteration. Here again the
WhidU evidently alludes to our Carrier ; for
acjiomplishmcnt of such ends as he had in vie
would doiibdeas have entitled the pervert to a «
hat and stockings. A* G,
the
I
Hair OEowniQ after BBiXH (4*^ S. vi, 524;
vii. 116, 8^^)^ — ^This phenomenon may safely be
placed in the same umbo with the living toads
lound in the middle of marble blocks, the wiowera
of live frogs^ the sea*serpent, old Jenkins, and
the Wandering Jew. New animal tissnes cao
only be formed out of the blood, and so soon as
thia blood ceases to live and circulate, all inter-
change of material throughout tho body mustt
cease too. Hair can form no exception to this
rule^ and its growth after death is as imposaiblfi
as the growth of new bone or new flesh.
It is astonishing how people fond of mi
are willing to dispense with evidence. In
case mentioned by the old gentlemtui at Turre;
not a shadow of proof is offered of the mi
hair found in the lady's coiBn having grown
death. Why assume this ? Why should she
have had long hair during life P
Hawthorne's story of a woman's whold
being changed into hair is too absurd to he
peated.
Mr. Mater will observe that in the
Charles I. no growth of hair is reported ; hut
this body was examined by a man who undersi
the common laws of physiology. In the case
the young man drowned at Whitby we are
pected to believe that the hair of a corpse grew
t«vo or three days as much as it would have gro'
in as many months during life. Probably
mistake arae f^m the fact of the young man's
hair being more |of less curly , and by immenioii
in the water it became straightened out, and Utiii
appeared to have gained in length* The
druditiHty of hair Ma. Matsb must see to
^
4^s.Tii. Fw. 11, 7M NOTES AND QUERIES.
131
quite uiotber cjnftfttion, utterly unconnected with
posft-raortem grc^wth* J* Diioir,
Alexander Rowland, of "Macftssar" celebritj*
rifed fleveral instances of the indestructibility of
hair, and the growth nf it and the nails after
death, in his curious treatiBe,
••The Human Umr, Popularly and Phy9iologicaJI.v
Considered, &c.** With seven IlluBtratioiw, 8vo, London,
The subject la also elaborately discussed in —
F. Garmann!, he, De Miraculis Mortiioram,
rvmissa dissertatio de Cadavere et Miraculis in
'4tO»I>reid<!n, 1709;'
Wfllum Bates.
Birmiagbam.
Ei«(TERK Stort (4»* S. vii, 12,) — The 8toi7
will ht> found in Madame de Genlis* Tales of the
Cadkf or in her Taks of the Gmii, 1 forget
which* These (ales ar© among the few that
cbtrmed our diiidhood*s days some forty years ago.
* E, L. BtEKKrifsopp,
Wjir Mebals {i^^ S. vii. 13,) — "^^'^if^ the
Pemufiular medals were issued in 1848 six sur-
%ivorf of the war were able to make f^-ood their
daimi \A fifteen bars or clasps. One of these
ui ' I awell-known private collec Hon, The
\i' vom by the hvte Duke of Wellington
£ai-j ^-<int> cuisps. J* W. F.
Bri^btim.
T' * Captain Baldwin, who resided for
i-ii in Canada, received the war medal
iR- n clasps for his services in Spain and
Ir ;> the Duke's campaigns. This mim-
V- . |»ij was always said to have been the
Ur^ ' : I r I - lint c^er obtained by valour. Comey
^^akI*, the keeper of the Raquet Court at Hali-
fiui, N. S., received the Peninsular medal with
thirteen clasjjs. Woods obtained two medals for
dktinguished aervice in the field. Corncy always
tompUined that the Horse Guards had' omitted
to give him the fourteenth clasp. Woods' regi-
TtiMTit was the gullont 52nd, the Oxfordshire Light
v» which was many years quartered in
ootia with the Rifle Brijrade : and Generals
\\Ubii4hara^ Norcott» Streatfiekl, l^ir K, King,
nd many others may still remember the jolly,
fifliting, private Coraey Woods, bound to com-
mumorate every anniversary of his general aetiona.
Isaac Sheaebs.
Hi^Winjy.
I TED El^GT BT OLTTEK GoLnSMITH
, U6, 84 j — Your correspondent MooB-
. \ ii reminds me of the remark of a friend
un a certain occasion. I was calling the
*' an author of well-de#erved eminence
^ early productions, which he had not
"-^T'ierable lapee of time. ** Good
jed, starling back in horror, **ia
L».; i could tiver have perpetrated
such detestable trash as that P ** On which a (
tical friend, who happened to be by, absented to
bim with adnurabl© gravity, '* My dear sir, it is
not to tell how badly a man may write, if he will
only thoroughly give himself up to iL^' That the
author of the elegy referred to *' had thoroughly
jriven hiraeelf up to it/* there can be no «|ue8tion,
and ag little^ that if written by an Oliver Gold-
smith— and it is known that therewere more than
one — he could not be that one whose poetry
affords ua from youth upwards such eiquisite
pleasure.
To criticise such a production would be simply
absurd. Let it only be remembered that in 1770
Goldsmith was ia the full perfection of his powera,
and that though sometimes a careless writer of
prose, he was, in composing poetry, ever miifdful
of his fame, His poetical vwdua operandi wna
indeed slow and elaborate, and it was in reference
to his complaint of the superior rapidity with
which ChuTchhill and some other of nis contem-
poraries tbrew off their more numerous compofal-
tions in verse, that 13r. Johnson is reported
have said i<^ him — and I give the remark the
rather because it is not to be found in BosweD-
<* Sir, you must always remember that between
things absolutely ditlerent in degree there can be
no approximation by numbers, and that even in
what o^in be reduced to numerical equality it
ttike3 1008 farthings to make one guinea.
J A 8. CR08SI.1IT.
AsHBURN^RS OF FrRNE-Hs (4** S. vj. 411, 582.y^
The following par^igrnph appeared in the Vlverdon^
Afhniiwr {J&n. 5, 1871) in reference to a query
propounded by Mr. T. Helsbt i —
" With ref^ard to tho paTflcrap^' from Nfttta and QuerU§
as to the * Ashburners of Fumes*,* we aro informed in
rererenr^ to query 6, that the Rev. Willijim Asliburner
was a mm uf George A &h burner, of Scales, and that he
WAS baiiitised at Aldinj^ham Church on January 5, 1763;
his father, George A jsh burner (son of John Ash burner, of
Ahlinghani), wn.s baptised at the same church on June 13,
1731. A headstone, nowtstandirnr in Aldinf^ham Church*
yard, wa* erected by the Rev. W- A ah burner, an<l bears
the following records: — George AshLumer (bw broi her,
who vt'&a a tUlioner in I'lver&toa), tlied April TJ, 1823|,
aged 51 years, Isab-ella Ashbtirner (bis mother) diird
Februarr' 10, 17R0, aged 48 years. Georpe Ashburner, of
Scales (hi» father), died December 2, 1B08, aged 72 rear*,
William Aflhbumer (hi« uncle), died February 20, 'lB13,
aged 73 years* John Aabburaer (hia brother) died
July 17, IH2S, aged 63 year** We have reason to bfilicv(»
that the ancestry ciin be further traced should the abova
not BuflSce. We are indebted to Mr. John Anhbaroar, of *
Scales (who i.* a relative of the reverend gentleman re-
ferred to), for the above informatiou/'
J. P. MoBRIfl.
Liverpool,
Shropshtre Satc^os (4** S. vii. 9.)— I have
never heard more than two of the Shrophire say-
ings mentioned by Mb, UNDERHtLt. ** All on
one aide, like Bridgnorth election,*' ia ^ c«i3KW\crtv
UiuAtratlon to the preaent ^\i!^\ «xA «2^ "^x^^^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
»g;Vlf.FE».ll>TI.
dinners in the county wind ttp with the toast,
*'To all friends round the wrekin." There \s
another Shropshire toast, too^ which I have heard :
'* The llillfl of Shropshire — may they h© aa ever-
lastings ha the Shropshire hilla/^ And one da>y»
intneiBin^ a ph)ughing match at EUesmere, X
lieard one rustic urging another to go a Httle
faater ^ith his plough. ** Houd thee nize," was
the reply ; '* the ground's as rough as Babby'a
*ood gorst" Babin'fl Wood is a well-known
locality in north*eaat Shropshire, but I never
heard that the goriie there waa rougher than in
other places. A. K*
Oiwestrj'.
" He smiles like a bundle of chips ** was a very
comfion saying in south-east Cornwall from thirN'
to forty years ago. The words "under a dog^
arm ^* were not anfire(|uently added to it.
Wit, Pejtoellt.
Torquay.
Cobblers' Lamps in Italy (4*** S. vii. IL)—
Similar glass globes, tilled with water^ are used
by wood-engravers and microscopists, and their
effect is to concentrate the light upon the object
looked at. J. T. F.
N. KeUoy, Brigg.
The women in Northamptonshire and Backbg-
hamahire formerly used, and probably still use,
the glass globe of water with a candle in making
pillow-lace, the object of which is to increase the
light on their work, as the lij^bt of the candle,
iHLsdng through the globe of water, magnifies the
Bght in the same way as passing through a mag-
nifying lens. Henbt T, Wake.
Cockermouth.
The Rhombus and Scarfs (4**» S. vi. 584.) —
May I quott< Martial in connection with the notice
to KaoaAcrM ? In epigram xiii. 80, he saya —
♦* Quaaivia hitn gerat patella Rhombam :
Hbombus latior eat tamen pateila.^^
It appears to me that this distichon points
clearly to the tnrbot, The scams is not so easily
idcTitilied ; it is generally translated char, which
delicious little fish (a celestial trout) the Romans
probably put into Windermere and Coniston Lake,
Char of Windermere L have been fortunate enough
to eat at Wordsworth's breakfast table : VerpUum
tanium vidu But the char does not answer at all
to Martiars scar us (xiii. 84) :
« Eio acoroa, tec^uonsU qui v«iut obesus ab undis»
Visoeribua bonuA est, cetera vile aapit,"
Pliny (whom I have not at hand) alao some-
where mentions the scarua as famed for its liver.
Hence it cannot be the char, whose liver is nothing
leraarkable^ while all its flesh is delicious. Could
it be the red mullet, the . " woodcock of ocean '' ?
Makbocoeib.
WtrLPEtrjTA (4** S. vu. 13:)— Dugdale (toI vi.
^144) ^ves tho date of th© foundation of her
rllicM
monastery 996. Ethelred^s eister at that
might have been thirty- two years old.
St. VALmrmrB (4^* S. vi. 570.)— A parallel
the line —
** Ut uiorieas Tiveret, vixit ut nioritarua,"
is to be found in the Tedamentum ^tvc pmepai
(id Mortem of Cardinal Bona' — a document wliicl
contains many noble sentiments eloquently
pressed* The words " et cupio ante mortem ma-
ture mori, ne moriar in eternum *' conclude (
striking paragraph on the fear of death.
JojiK Eliot Hodokih.
West Derby.
A Bill acthallt j*besb2ttbi> (4*^ S. w- 3SJ
I waa surprised to see this new version of on ol
joke; for certainly I have long known a ai*
'* carpenter's bill," but never believed that it
actually presented. The form in which it hna
long been familiar to me ia the following : —
2 mAbogany boxes • • , Q 14 0
t wooden do , « ,070
1 wood do . ♦ .070
I have also a chimney-sweep's bill and a
layer's biU^ still more original and puzzling; hy
I cannot alErm that either have been actnaH;
presented, F. C, H,
Lkigh Hunt's '^LBisxriu notma m Towx
(4*'^ S, vii, 26.) — I have as full an acquaini
with the writings of Leigh Hunt aa moat peopl
but I never met with a volume bearing the aoo
title. Probably the volumes on The Old "
Stdiurb are those wanted by the Cambridge U
versity Union Society. G, J. Be Wild
The Five " Third-Poixted " Spikbs (4^
vii. 36.) — The spires inquired after are no ("
the five enumerated in A Handbook of Ea '
published in 1S47 by the Ecclesiolopcal
as the only broach spires of ** third-pointed '
They are'S. Peter Stanion, Nortnamptoa
S. Alkmund^ Shrewsbury; S, Mary, Hartfie
Sussex ; All Siiints, lungston ; Seymour, Some
set ; S, Mary, Brampton^ Northamptonshire,
these I can add a sixth, viz. Upton, Huntingdon-
shire, This is a very curious example, and until
examined closely seems to be of much earlier date,
W' hen I saw it about a year ago it was in a ve
dangerous state, the tower below it having giv
way; but I believe it has since been made safe. ^
SNAt
IHacduff, Thaiitb op Fife {4*** S, vl
447.) — Mary de Monthermer» wife of 1 1
Earl of Fife, waa bom at Marlbor
1297, and married in 1307, J on
Opera Antverpim^ 167?| fbl. p. 900*
-tA&VIT-FMull,-?!.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
laa
ktrn iibout 1265-70^ and married before 1299. She
wu tlierefore in ail probubility the wife of the
tintk earl. W«e abe tne mother of hig succeeeor,
or had he more wives thftn one ? The two dia-
inherited daughters of Gilbert, Earl of Gloucester,
ind Alice de Lb Marche (of whom Joan woa the
jcmngeT) have never jet, ao far as I know, been
Itcognised in any printed work. Their half-sjcj-
terSp the daughters of Joan of Acres, completely
eolipaed them. It would be interesting to ascer-
tain whether they both left Ifisue,
Hebmentbude.
Babies^ Bells (^ S. vi. 476 j vii. 2L) — At
the latter of thi^ above references a correapondont
j&fiks for the author of these lines : —
*• What nib my babe, my aweet-faoed habe, to cry ?
L^ok, look, what's here J A dninty tcoldeti thing:
See how the diinctn^ bdls turn rouod, &ad riug
To please my baDtling ! ^*
They were written by Francis Quarles (bom
1592, died 1044 ), and occur in his Embleiiu^ book ii.
No. 8, " Veuua and Divine Cupid!*'
Quarles deeerres to be more generally read.
Hiij quaint Btrle, wit, and uncommon turns of
thought would make him a favourite, even with
thoie who may not be touched with his deep mid
practical piety. Althoug^h a puritan in his reli-
cidfi, he waa a zealouB royalist in politics, and
naring joined the long's party at Oxford, the
whole of his property, including hia books and
MSS., were sequestrated by the parliamcEt. The
bii of these last preyed so much upon hia spirits
IS to bflAtcm hia death. lie was educated at Christ
Colkge. Cambridge, and amongst other |K>st3
whkh oe aucceteively tilled was that of ** (Jhro-
sologttr to the Citjr of London/' What were the
fctie?* of this olbcer, and is any such now an-
iP E. V,
%3^ wflj appointed ChroTiolog«r. at the request of
% in le.^JD- The duties of the office,
y been held by Ben Jonson, contiie^tecl
aiiii^ pageants for the lord mayor^ and the
Avaa SS/, 6«. 8d. — equal to abont a hundred
-•-• a picture of Elizabeth Coghill, aged one
lOO 1G24. She holda in her hand a *'*■ corar'
i9ual shape, with gold or gilt moimting
So that J. G. J-'s date is carried back 146 years,
WsoKo Dates rs certaix BioaRAPiiiEs (4***
?. \\, nO: \ii. 40, BO,)^ — It is perhaps »carce
to refi^r to this matter again; but aa
m1 V shown that Ds, Kookrs had no
ning the existence of an error in
'^ iittrick Shepherd^s works, so
words will show that he had
Tie speaks a» if the part he
^nined the ShepherdV auto-
^-Ise of a biographical cha-
racter. It contains, howerer, only the first eight
pages of the autobiography, and immediately pre-
ceding them the laat forty pages of the memoir
by Mi-. Thomson* So that Dr. RoaEBs could not
have been ignorant of the existence of Mr, Thom-
son's memoir — ^and indeed admits that he was not
80 — but ** concluded '* that the same statement
alone would *' likely " be contained in it aa in
the autobiography. If Mich grounds as these are
to he considered as sufficient justification for
writing to '* N. & Q." we deeply sympathiBe with
the editor. BLA.CSIE & Soif.
Glasgow,
" Tnia EA^ Night, this ea5 Night *' (4** S.
vi, 50a,) — ^Thc Lyke TVake dirge which appeared
in these columns is printed in Sir W. Scott's
Minstrelm/ of th« Scottuh Border, In the preface
to it the following beautiful passage Is quoted ou
of the Russian Burial Service: —
** I last tliott pitied the fifHictcd, 0 man ? In death
shftit thou be pitied. Haat thon codaoIiwI tJie orphon * ^
The orphan mil deliver thee. Host thou cbthed th
naked ? The naked will procure thee protection.'* -
Kichardsoa's AnecdoteM ofB^aia.
Sir Walter Scott goes on to f?ay, " The mofit
minute deacriplion of the Brig* o' Dread occuib in
the legend of Sir Owain,'' ^'c R. C, Q,
The Advent ITyiix (4*^ S. vL 112 ; vii. 41.)^-
What combination of sounds goes to make vul-
garity ? I underataud the adjective *^ vulgar *^ as
applied to a man, a speech, an anecdote, &c., but
a8 applied to a tune 1 do not, and I never could
do. Any air may of course have vulgar associa-
tions with it in the minds of particular persons, '
but how can that mako the tune vulgiu*? I ask this
question the rather, because the particular time iu
question, poor *' Helmaley," which just now ap-
pears to have no friends, has always seemed to
my unsophiiJticsted ears so ssingularly appropriate
to the words of the Advent llymn^ that it vexes
me to hear it sung to any other. Perhaps you
will admit one voice in ita fit v our, since there
have been so many against it, IIermbmt&iii>e.
^t^rrlLintou^*
NOTES ON BOO«:S, ETC.
J%tf Hittory t}/ Borne, Bjf Wilhdm Ihnts. ErttflUh Edi-
tion, (Lon^maosO
Horr lbn«, fnim the volumes before Uf!, woold appear
to take the advice so often given to studenta by writera
in his own and other conntrios— viz. to falloWi iVonly at
a distance, the critical and exhattatlve method of Niobnhr
but not to be pinned down to the deductions and theories
of that great philologist. ♦* Would that 1 conld write his-
tory ao vividlv that \ cfinld so discriminate what ib fluc-
turttinfe- and unc< r ' r^ develop what is eonfuBcd
and intricate, thai v hea he heard the name of a
Greek of the age > _ . k< or Polyblua, or & Roman
of the days of Cato or TacittiJi, might be able to form a
dear and adequate idea of what li^ Tuma," ^ -ssxtaV^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4"»aVIL Prb.II.TI.
Kiebuhr, and it vaa tindoabtadlr Admiratioti at the
rare union of sach powem with vast learninsx m blm,
thai impoaed that " willing bonda^ *' to which m many
sabmiited^ but which, aa time *dTanc«3, required that
that ifi»e €Oiin»e} should be ^iven* Uerr Ihnc nicKle^tlj
aUtes that, had the life of Arnold, to whose memory he
pays a feeling and graceful tribute, been spared^ and Ihna
the completion of hia FJUtary of Rome cfFected, in all pro-
bability he would never have undertaken bii^ present
work. It seems to ui, howaver, that had «ucli been, for*
tunutdy for all, the cafle, there would have been still an
equal call for Herrlbue'a labour, our stock of knowledge
receiviof; daily such vast accosaiona — the result of rc-
aearch that appears to grow more vigorons the more it is
pursued — aft to render noeeaaary the continued rffwritinj?
of history under " the light of proicnt historical science/'
Commencing from the rv^al period, our author ha« car-
ried on bid history, in the present voluniPH, to the end of
the second Punic war— the period embraced b^v Arnold
•^and prore* himself no nieau possessor of our idiom, far
bis Tolumet are not a mere trauAlation from the Germatit
but have been rewritten by him in English,
Spanith Toirwf and Spaniih Pictures. By Mra, W, A*
Tollemache. (Hayes.)
Though the object of Mrs. Tollemache'a visit to Spain
appears uy have been the study of Spanlsb Art, on which
ve have a ^ood deal of pleasant goiisip in the work before
UB, the book contains numerous fra^ment^ of Knglish,
Spanish, and le^endnr^* hi-itof}% which give variety and
additinnal interest to it. As owing to the state of the
Continent und the recent changea in Bpain. travellers are
likely to direct their steps in that direction durinp; the
next mi^rration of wandering Englishmen and English-
women, we commend the bonk before us to all such, not
as a substitute for, but a.-* a compaoioa to, Ford*a ad-
mirable Handbook.
Ehmentary TreatUt on Natural PkiloMaphy, By Pro-
feawr A. Privnt Deschanel, of Paris. Tran^latpd ami
tdited^ icith Extensive AdditinjtSj hy Professor EvenUt,
D.C.L,, of Belfast. In Four Partu, Fart /. Mtchanics,
MjfdrottaticB, and FneuirmticB, liiustraUd by nitinerowf
Engravings^ ( Black ie.)
The important position whicb physical science bns now
taken in publie education has induced the putvlisherE of
the work before us, which, aoon after the publication by
Professor Descbanel, was adopted by the Minister of In-
BtructioQ in France as the text-book for government
achools, to invite Professor Kverett to produce an Enplish
tjditiou of it — and he tells us, that be was only induced
to do so after linding it wan better adapted to the require-
ments of hia cXvm than any similar treatise with which
he was acquainted. But it* is not a mere friin'^lation ; it
bas received many and very important addiiiona at the
hands of the translator*
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ter Castle and grounds, are about "to expend 2.fMKV.
or more in laying out the latter, therebv efrtK!ting a great
public improvement. This scheme will doubtless com-
mend itHeJf to all antirtunries, as tending to preserve the
noblest castle keep in England.
The latb Charles Dickens, — Messrs. Chapman A
Hall, it is understood, have become the proprietors of the
entire series of copyrights of tho works of Mr, Dickens,
A buAt of the late' novelist has just been completed by
Mr. \V. F. Woodiogton.
Lord Pai.wrrstox's Visits to Paris iw 1R14 a:i
1815.— The Diftr>* kept by Lord Palmerston on tbes(
vtstts wilL it is said, form a separate publication* it beioj
f^iiind too long for insertion, as originally Intatided^ f
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«^'.&Q."3^'»8, i. im.
AMBRosfti B<*^rw^CKE. — By an annoying and p*m*ffi
misprint ihrnttghnut onr itntiei of Mr. Mayttr's interrUH
litite vofuMe (anttf p. 114), the subject of the hook iJ (
caJfcd Bornrickc.
Zeta (Ainlover) will find several anni*ers in hit tpit^U
by referring to our inde-ms*
Sp— The author of The World of Mlhtt«r dkd Item i
fArf* years tince,
R, H. S.— The moiio—
** Horaa non numero niii aercnaa,**
iV not unoommnn on sxtndialt ; bnt its origin^whirh has I
inquired for more than once in these cviumn$^ rttmam*^
present undiscovered,
8, W. T. wiftfnd a nott on ths umrd " El^h-falut^m '
p. 478 of our last volume.
ScOTTi<*H Music. — L. T, A, will fmi the
mo0t of the pnptdar Scottish airs traced in
Music of the Ulden Time,
T, C. — ff^e have a Utter for thtt gemaioyieat 1
Whith«r $hall we forward U f
O, WMinfftonSlremtStnwi, H'.C,
4^&. TU, Vmb. la, VL] NOTES AND QUERIES,
las
IQMnQX, SJLTURDAT^ FEBRUART 18, 1B7U
CONTENTS,— N'* 164,
I— > Mont Val^frien, 135— Mil ton's "^Rivers arise.*'
Ik^ tt«— Th© tter. Henry Fronds Cary, lb, — Witchp* in
If«k]id,/fr«^TIie Uefttiinfr of " Monftkur, MoIlsicllr" —
]iMKr.lMiliiltff — C»I»U «.nd &ir Gilbert Talbot in laU^
^^_i..-., !•--. .-". -^f thr> Pretender — Mr<Aven Letters
*- i« History of the Vimnia Com-
t« of Faraiifly— Keacolt, Oion,
QintRf BB I — Tbo Winchester " Domum " 8on|f, 140 —
*Qupen Arr^i.t^" — Thf Blf^akley Fninlly— Bjl11.h:hi> iind
3f<!>w«1»»< ' ! — Caiviti »«i —
Chitdr*' Monastery ' mi
**^cfci U-\vriiiik'— ■
rtiMiM, :i'- — Tjir 1 m::o — PHrit-duaJers* O^tolo^iies —
Ru.. I j^ i< MS 1!! suir Ik Churches — Beauty SlAsep —
ianuiy Ta^ lor — " The Seven Wonders of Wales,** 14U.
EKPLt1?«: — lv4itrf?v> of B, It Haydou tho Bistork'fil
r-.' ' ^ ' ^< - ._ .-. ^,^ Imperial Lotter, 145 — A
S iB — Book t)riHMueritatioii, 147—
4. Charl««i L — Dotiariat of Drusus,
beiuor i:?niii. ofPiUTiOTi Avery — " Tho Hea%' -
Inn of [ — Kirkflantoi^ — Gun — The Didactic
Hi*iT3r ^^^s hoi^ vocari di*betf" Ac— L« Cara-
cole—''j1!n ^ ' ' Awe" — IndoiBjj: " liujih-
-vortb'ft Hi^" " — Key to " Lo Grand
Cynj»" — W rJo Saint — " The IVtMliial
fbu •* ^ ' r -- " The Adoration of tho
Kotxaim i
MOST VALEHIEX.
nut heard of Mtmt Valvrien, tho
tit of the Seine, and tutelttrj genius
I city at its foot ? —
I ;irduo
niif, bt monu
Fllitque bcJli lony;a praise ntia mora."
Joatm, Commirii Cartnina, Farii, 1701, p* 17
aical impoi'taTice of this renowned
'*< its f^ite with it present iotereat
h may soeui to be n*ttect«d
Uen phase of its history.
..rn I'amian or ordinary tourist
Valdrien but as a fort and ft barrack ;
Huiijvioud with cannon and populous with
••Idiery : prompt forr the defence, or it may be
'' ^ ' / V r the tickle and unruly millions
t ...^ -,(• ^ K ,;.^^j, history sees
lie thinks of it
I Mv holy hermit; an
: a mimic yet adorable
ill a more degenerate
1 br the offended shade of
f \iat it i-* 1 alone who
into hi!* first iambic
. , .-. .,,aaMa,'^ in^tend of the
^i^imKk " iMia^'' which is Ibtmd in the original.
time« a3 a scene of lictjntious profligacy, which
recalls the Dionyaia of the elder world, or the
nocturnal lore-fciAsU of modem Ilevivaliam.
AYe learn from l^ierre d'Orgeniont, a former
bishop of Paria, that in the year 1400 and the
rei|^ of Charlod de V^aloia there was already a
hermitage on Mont ValtSrien, and that a penitent
named Anthoine occupied a cell of narrow limits
constructed on the spot. Tbia was destroyed in
the time of the civil wiu-s he t ween the Dukea of
Orleans and Burgundy, and tho hermitage of
Saint Saviour built on the summit of the mount.
This had for occupant Sister Guillemette Faussart,
a native of Paris* who, in the reign of Henry U,,
and assisted by the contributions of Henry Guyot
and Gilles Marti ne, built the chapel of Saint
SaTiour, and a cell of ample dimcnsionB, ad fta
aL*Mie.
It ia related of thb holy personage, that, after
her nightly prayers, she occupied herself in ciirry-
inij water from the foot to the summit of the
mount. This she did in such quantities that it
Bufilced the masons, engaged in tho construction
of the chapel, for the entire day, and was thus
regarded as a miracle. She practised the moat
rigid austerities ; ate little but bread and water ;
taking, indeed, lit lie else to support life but tho
Holy Communion. { VartHes hijstortqttesj jt/ti/mqiteSf
et Uftirairen. Paici, 1752, torn. iii. partie \, p. 174.)
After five years of fasting and penitence Sister
Guillemett© died suddenly, in the year 1501, in
the odour of sanctity, and was buried at the
entrance of the chapel of the hermitage whick
had been built mider her auspices.
The successor to this holy lady was Jean llous*
eet, the third anchoret of Mont A^al^rien. Ha
had heen a retainer of Henri Guyot, to whom,
and other charitable persona^ he \\i\& indebted for
hia support. He occupied the hermitage for the
long period of forty-sLx years, at the end of which
time, on Auguat o, 1009, he closed a life of
austerity and ediiieation, and was buried by the
side of Sister Guillemette, his predeceaaor, in pre-
tence of the clergy, many noblemen, and a Taat
concourse of spectators.
It is to this pious man that Raoul Boutmys,
better known under hia Latinised nnmc of Ko-
dolphus Botereius, refers in the following not
very elegant hexameters : —
" Imminot iEtheiio propo rertice Valeuius Moks*
Inclujji spelunca aeai.H qui limen £r«ini
{^ox propi- abhinc Imtris non exit, iUe vetuatos
iE;:>'pli Patre«, ^jyri^que horrttntia acLvqiiAt.
()iialis erat ni^ro qui pastus ub alite Paitlaf,
Hirsut!«kiuc hujus tunictr, qui Antonins bwrea.
Fortunate seni^x, qui gumma ^ rape jaceiit«a
l>e-5picl« orbi« opes, et vere dcflpiei^, urbs eat
Magnn tibi, IVIons exi|E;:aus, Provintna et ingens
Scroptaqu« in horreiiti dcfo^?a crga-stula aaxo/*
LuUtUi, 8vo, Pnrisiis, 1612.
I The next and fourth tenant of the hermit's cell
was SiSraphin de k Nout^, a Paiiaiwi^ ^\ia ^«a
136
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[♦"■S.Tri.FKa. 18,
J(
placed in posaeasion by the Abb^ of St, Denis and
Henry de Gondj, Cardinjil de Hetz^ August 8,
IGOI). Hq waa supported in the solitury practice
of piety and austerity by be eelebrat^d and
lovely Marguerite de Valois, first wife of Henry of
Navarre, and last princess of her ilbistrious house.
By some one of the.«e hermits three lofty crosses
had been erected on the summit of their mount,
Tbeae, from their elevated position, were seen
from a&r, and recaOed to the pious spectator the
Calvary of old, where his Saviour had 8ufl*er+^d
between the hardened and the repentant thief.
Struck by the similitude, a priest iind licentiate
of the Sorbonne, Hubert Chnrpenlier, conceived
the idea of establishing' on Mont ValiSrien a corn*
m unity of priests and religious men for the main-
tenance and exercise of the wor^ship of the Crnas,
similar to one which he had previously founded
on Mount lietharam in Beam, and a secoud at
NiHre Dame de Oarflison, in the diocese of Aiich,
The kio^, Loui^ XIII., favoured the scheme with
Ms approbation ; and Richelieu, who had a splen-
did seat at I?uel, hard by* promoted it hy his
liberality. The congregation of the Cnlvarv con-
siHted of thirteen priests, of whom the founder,
Charpeiitier, wjis the first superior. This eminent
man, who had been the intimate friend of the
Abb^ de Saint Cyran, and the solitaries of Port
Royal died in 1650, in the very year in which
Louis XIV» con firmed the letters-patent given by
hia father, permittinj? the coaim unity to build
the church of the Holy Cto^.% and a convent for
the accommodation of the roiuiateriuj;^ priests and
other persons of piety who might be desirous of
leading a life of edification thereio.
The religions zenl which hud animated Thar-
pentier does not appear to have been parti cipatt'd
by the confraternity, and ten years later the
number had dwindled to two, who linf^eretj on
till l<j<^, when they sold their commonalty to the
Jacobins of the Rue Saint- Honored an example
which the hcnuitu, tired aI-5o of their life of suli-
tude and ftusterity. lost no tijiie in following.
These bargains, however, found no favour with
the chapter of the cathedral of Paris, who en-
deavoured to prevent them taking effect by de-
spatching another relay of priests to the ahnnshmed
mount. Hence a collision between the two bodies.
The Jacobins, arriving to take possession of their
aequisition, found another party in posse ssioo, and
laid regular siege to the mount The good folIcB
of the neighbouring villages took one or the other
side; a baker was killed; others were wounded ;
the Jacobins remaining masters of the situation.
The affair^ however, had made considerable noise ;
the king ordered an investigation, imd this resulted
in a decree by which the disputed property was
Testored to it^ original possMNsor.4, Sainte-Foix
gives full details in his £mttv! mr Pan\ and a
poem of some two thousnnd verses was composed
o}' Ji^an Ihvld, n hichvloT of theology^ cnt\tkd
T^e Calimre profrtn^ par kg JttcMns c^« h rye
Hamt'Htyfwri.
It was probably at this period thut the inoant
began to be known aa the ** Calvary." In 1606,
the cureM of Paris were alBUated to the coogregk-
tion, and the custom was established by the par*
oi^ses of the capital of making a yearly pilgrimage
to the holy mouint on two nights spe^allf conse-
crated to the worship of the Crosa. Betiad thd
great altar of their cnurch the priests of the com-
munity had constructed a mimic representation of
the sepulchre of our Saviour. To facilitate »'>^a^
to the summit, tlie precipitous sidea of the
were hewn into terraces, with steps betwe^. , , i
chapels at regular intervals, affjrdin^ repitj»nt»-
tions of the various stations of the Passion, were
constructed to serve as resting-places for the pil-
grim a.
Availing themBcdves of these facili'
the whole of Passion Week, Mont \.
thrtmged by an army of devotees, m
way from chapel to chapel, up its ter;
till they reached the church on the sumuuL
it was on the nights of Ascension Day and Go
Friday that the pilgrim-crowd became most qqi
rous, The gniphir ppn of Dulaure shall 1
describe the midnight doings of these Oi^asts (
modern times: —
'* Lea uUH portaient wne croix fort p4!saate, H at '
ntiient avec peine jiisf|^Ei'iiu sommet de U mootagsffl
ceux-ijk se f«isAi«ut fiistig:er ea chernin ; d'aatrf" — ^-^
ne pouviuit jouer dcs roleg si dif&ciles, ae cam
^'etre Apectatcurs Macvdea. CotniDe c«)t a^da^
^ f^iMak la nuit, cotntnG e^ifuit k la rmin
prinreinpa, H comme tout iMgitfn^re, les pile
ptMerines faiAaient soavent des stations danti
Boulngne (par mlh pa^ialent^ avant d*en fail
pi act? rent le zele et la pffnTtcncc, ct plusicfirs^^
t'taient commis aa lieu nuTue de l'cx|nruion.
rjan^jes et lea tlL^iordrea qu'ils eatrffliuai»:ut, f\
sagemuTtt rif formes*"
At lenorth, to put a stop to the flagrant i
the Cardmal de Xoajlles, the then Archbishop i
Paris, effectually suppressed the ** devotion/ i
1007, by forbidi^ing the priests of the Criw* 1
keep their chnpels open on the nights of " '
Thursday and Friday. Finally, the two f "
nities of priests and hermits were forma
pressed by a decree of Ihe Coniitituent
dated August 18, 170L
Tlie church of the Cross and the
buildings still remained; but^ a few years
Napoleon, informed by Fonche that ther
become the nightly resort of a great numW (
prieslH and others who held secret meetings thert
in, tr>ok alarm, and ordered the grenadiers of thij
guard, in garrison at Courbevoie, to betake tliemj^
selves to the dangerous spot, arrest the suppose
conspirators, and raze the church and convi>nt I
the ground. His commands were executed to t"
letter, and after some delay, arising from Hcit
wo^s itf i^ntention, the great uinn gave order*. Jw
i Fe». 1% »7io NOTES AND QUERIES,
13j
own fall, that n barrack should be
I the desecrnted site.
I point commeDces the modern historj of
ll**rien, which ia better known, and on
io not propose to enter.
William Bates,
I-TON'S -B17ERS ARISE." ETC,
VA the only pasanp^e jn Milton's Pfi^uit
IB nmible to explain when comim^ntin|j:
When at length I became aware of
sense of them I made the following
i change in what I had written on it in
my Life of MiUon : —
|d<^l^ess eommencinj;^ thoa^^
ans*', wUi'ther thou beest the son
fcmost Tw«?e*1» or Ouse, or gulfy Df*ii»' ^c.
puzzle l<j all criticn, who* with Wiirtoti» cnuM
what senile «r in what manner this introJuc-
riviTB wrtj* to be applied to ihe subject.* At
«vii?wer of Ma*.*on'a hiff f^f Mdt<m in the
fepj^r observt'd, * Mny not the true cxplana-
riijclle b« that the p&rt of Relation was pcr-
A vouth of the name of Rivers ? ' Acting
It, 'Mr. Mn«son had inqnin' made at Cam-
as he informs us in Thf 'Athtmnum, it ap-
on th** IHlh of Mav, 1028, (Jeorge and XirrII
I of Sir John River?, Knt., of WeMisrham,
Ibrmer in' hla loth, the latter in bia Htb
admitted into Christ C«lleg« as 1i^«j»i3r pen-
lie whole riddle then ia tbua solved, and we
DfSpectcd pppcimcn of 5liIton*8 humour. In
tftama, as we may term it, he performed the
^•nd tboneof the Predieamenta were »uRtaiiied
le juoior freabmenf one of whom no doubt was
BlverSi on wboHfl name be plays thus agree-
aUo an approjiriatene^s in cloi^ifij^ the
ri vera with the Medwayand the Thames,
ent, and of which the former riaes not
am, where the Rivers family resided,
loftt incredible that a matter tbu», we
on the surface should have eluded the
\y ffeneraiions. But the truth l^ many
luld be given of oversigb t» e<jually mar-
Zjfg af MiUon may never he reprinted,
it£er The Athenttum nor The Saturday
\ to likely to be consulted by future
•a *'N. & Q./* I have thus, I trust,
a knowledge of this removal of the only
obacurity in the poetry of Milton.
supposed lines of ^filton'a lately dis-
aaw at the first glance that they were
mid not be his. I took no part in the
id I witnessed with pleasure the final
^good E^nae and sound criticl(«m»
Thos. K EI outlet.
rz REV. HENRY FRANCIS CARY,
lately read the Memoir of the Hev.
^raru!U Carifj M,A.j Trtntmlator of Dante ^
flfl* London, 1^7), I wish to record two
particulara which rnhj prove interesting j
and perhaps useful to otliers, and my note*book
being at hand I am enabled to do so without
delay. " Procrastinatiou is the thief of time/'
It 18 atated in toI, j. p. 1, that bis mother was
'* daughter of Theophilus Brocas, Dean of Killala."
Dean Brocas was likewise cbaplain of the Royal
Chapel of St. Matthew, Rinpsend, Dublin, 1750-
17(>4 (as mentioned in Brief Sketches of the
Furi^hes of Btioierdown and Dormyhrookf'^. 101);
and bavins' died iu 1770, he was buried in the
churchyard of St. Anoe'a, Dublin, aa recorded
in the following' tombetone inscription, which I
copied within the last few yeara :
" Here lyetb the body of the Rev** Theophilus Brocaa,
D.D-» Dfnn of Kilbln, wb« departtn! this liU on the 17**
day of April, 1770, and in (he dt*^ year of hu age,"
His death, according' to Pue's Occtirrence«f April
21, 1770, was ** an important Iopb to the kingdom^ as
hid life was devoted to the service of the publick
in promoting the true interest of this country."
It IS to be hoped that in the recent alteiationa
and injpmveraents at St, Anne's due care has been
taken of the tombs tones of Dean Br ocas and many
other notables.
In the same volume, p. 84, where mention of
Mr. Gary's marriage appears, it u stated that " on
the 19th of Septemherj in the same year [1796],
he married Jane, daughter of James Ormsby,
Esq., of Sandyrnount [in the parish of Donny-
brook], DublinV' Ilere there seems to be a sliglit
inaccuracy iu the date, for in the Visitation return
of marriages in Don nyb rook in 17[M} (preserved in
the Oonsi^torial Court| Dublin), there ia the fol-
lowing entry : —
** August 20, The Reverend Henry Erancis Cary, of
Staffbrdsbire, and Mm Jane Ormsby, daujjbter t^i Jamca
Onnsby, Esq., of gandymouivt/'
Mr. Omifthy had served as churchwarden of bia
parii»h in 1702, and in the old churchyard of
bonnvbrook there ia a stone over the grave of
I^Irs. Frances G. Ormsbv, wife of Captain Robert
Ormsby of the Sligo Militia, who died August 19,
1805, aged thirty-two years.
The Bonnybrook parish-reg^r (17G8-1799)
has long since disappeared, and is not likely, I
fear, to be recovered ; and therefore the annual
returns of marriages^ &c., from one of which the
foregoing quotation has been made, are the more
to be prized. Abhba.
WITCHES IN IRELAND.
The following curious case was heard at the
quarter sessions at Newtonards, co. Down, Tues-
day, Jan. 4, 187L It in thus teported in the
Weekly Whiij^ Jon. 7, 1871 : —
" KXTRAOnDIIf AltT MOT>K OF EXPKLLtHO WtTOHES.
Kenttedtf v. Kenned jf.
" This was a pTooe«a btoughl by Wife v^wiTk>:\^, /^xit^
Kennedy, farm servant^ to ttcover 1\L tto\iiVW^«.\wi^Mi^*
138
NOTES AND QUERIES.
John Kcnttedr, fiinBer, being one yeflr*^ frag«i Allegvd to
be tlup.
*• Mr. C, ' ' ^V " appeared for tbc pl&iati0; And Mr.
J. Diimtn -dant,
"The jil ' defeiidant are brothers, and the
point In dnpulL* was whether the enga^uictit w«is 7!,
n-ytiLT or 7/. the half-year, the plaintiff all(^;^iin|f the
latter^ A« the evidpnce was conflicting"t hi-* worship
refenrcil it and another case between the same piirtiea to
the arbitration of three '^enlkmen in court.
" It appeared from the evidence of the plaintifr, iwho
was examiiud by Mr. I^usdell, that on one occasion
dnrlng the period he was in the defendajtt's service he
was trtwployod in banishing witches out of the house, and
off the land. W'itches were believed to sojourn on the
plaintiirs farm, and in confequcnce tsomo cif his cows
died, and his crop.1 were of inferior quality. Belief
existed in the elfieacy of a certain cbarm, "potent in
crpdling witches; but, fllthongh considered unfaiUog,
tb« experiinent was attetide^J with dwn^^'^crons conie-
qiiencies, and no person couUl be tbund bad enough to
undertake tlie carrying; out of the necessary directions.
The d3n;]jerlay in the fact that if any one of therequititca
of the cbiiriii remained unfuldllcd, the fjciraon endeavour-
in j^ to etfect the banishnient would be carried off by the
witches, and wonld never more be heard of. Plttinttff,
who wu* liiaiself a believer in witchcraft, wa* induced to
nnd-rrake the hazardous attontpt to work the charm.
An cveninar was aijfreed upon to put tbu witches to flight.
They were supposed to take up Iheir re.sidcnce in. the
houne after n <-ertftin hour, and to remain there till bronrik
of day; and if the charm was Miocc^fully worked they
would not only be for ever di^lodgeid froni the dwelling*
but would tiever more sot foot upon the farm. The mode
adopted was as follow*: — All the inhabitants left the
bouse with the exception of tlie pitiiQlid'. who had to face
the witches alone. lie locked himself in, closed the
^ window.*, fitnffed all keyholes and aperture*, atid put swls
on the tops of the chimneys. He then put a Iflr^o pot of
sweet milk on the lire. In the pot he put three rows of
pio« that had never been used, and three p.ackafjea of n«w
net'illos. The milk, needlos, iuid pins were allowed to
boil tOj^f^thfT for half an hour. A» there was no oatlct
for the »mi»ke, plaintiff ws-«i nearly smothered, and during
the time the charm wn» maturinjr, he believed he liad an
encounter with Llio witchefl, and succeeded in driving
them frrttn the house. At all events, none of tbeijj bad
appeared in the jilace sine*, and ho had never heard any
complaints alKmt the cowm mUUing badly, or the cropfl
not g:iving * atisfinction.
**Th0 court was convulse*! with laughter during this
extraordinary recital.
*' On the return of the arbitrAtora into court, they
stated that in the ca«c for wa^cfl, they found for the
plaintitfin the;sum of ll'j. The other caac wa« tiismissed.*'
W. 11. P.
TheMeaioj^o of " Moxstefr, MoysiEFR." —
I Imve frequently been asked in Britain why, in
our country, thej put tbe word M on situ r twice
on the address: **A Monsieur, Monsieur," etc.
My answer was that the first Mumivttr should
hki written in t^o words, wid translated " my
lord*' (moH sieur, mon seifpi**tir).
If jou optift the Dicfifmnmrt* de la Lanrfuo frnn-
C(ti^—m ably compiled by my learned friend
^l<ma. Littf^ — you will find iitidfi* the woi^
** Monaienr*^ (toL ii. p. Oil, col. ^*) that tho same»
united with the name of a town, wa.i forme
used to designate tlie bishop ot' the diocese i
which that town was the capital; but he omit^
to add that it meant also the han^mn, m 3
may eee by the Mf moires /i* Samson ^ and Abo ill
Le9 Maria ffea (le Paris. This double acceptatf
led lately to a very ludicrous mistmderat
the narrative of which may arau^e your re
A younf^ orderly, who had leiirnt imp
the German lan^tage (but, however^ boaated of
beinj^ a thorough master of it), haTing- been j ^
to the Prusaiati outposts witb a flag of
appeared in the company of a stately gentlemi
much dignified, and dressed like a reTorend <
This gentleman the young^ oflicer (who, 1 1
is the author of the song' you lately print
troduced to the German commander as ** Mi
de IVis," and I beg- to introduce him to you J
Mons. Ilendrick, the hangman of Paria/
boin^ a German, or at leAst of German ext
lion, speaks lluently the languajre of the
vader. Now it happened the Teuton ytnA
fdoua Roman Cathohc, more conversant with 1
ang'uage of Madame de Maintenou and of
Concordat than with the phrafieolofnr in um
present. He accordingly prostrated laimself '
fore the lugubrious gentleman^ kiasod hia hi
and acted so many fantastic extr
the German faj?hion, that the yo
interpreter were put extremely out m c'»uru«n
Still the latter took great care, for tho sake of 1
own life, not to show h rortU,
One word mor«, to be added to Littn* a artic
In the nautical language, the title of mwimur \
particularly given by the crew to the lowest
them, the mous/ie^ tho ehiij-boy, and the reason I
that is obvious: it is a joKe founded on the lili
nees between jftomnr and monmrttr^ pronounced
Marseillea and Bordeaux mommf>
A then rum Club.
FRAKCl8Qu;E-Mirnnz
Bear-tiaitikg.— I was never a witnes? of
bear-bait^ but I well remfimbor a poor brute wl
was kept alive for this sole purpose, at F- i
Lnncaghire. He waa confined, U3 a gerieral 1
in a small bade yard, where sightle-^ I''** • stii
ing, and perhupa half-alarved, hi 1
stmit exercise appeared to he m .. .^ ^.^ he
and forequarters from side to eide. Wljen taV
to other Tillages to be baited, his advent
was announced by a wretched fiddler, who wa
before him and the bear- ward. Upon one «
eion the story pnes that he and a second cha
pion of tho like Mud arrived nt \^^ on th
wake»'dav, before the evening chu
compl^lei)* This, however, waa t . 4|
to a close by the beadle calling to ilo} iu«
from the church door: '* Mestur, th' bear a t
and what's more, there's two of 'cm.''
4«fc8:VIL FKii.i8,7J.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
139
smoir I
^ednm uf speech in in holy pbce is Ic^sa to be
■W' ' «L whpji it b known that the good
r> ;« party from the rectw' usimllr wit-
Dos^a Liu» Imar-bfidt from the churchyard ndjgin-
mg the Tillage greeo. M. D.
C-iL.iTf* \5i> Sir Gilbert Talbot ix 1oI2. —
Tbt! faUowiajf old French letter, signed by Gilbert
Talbot^ the then English governor* may be of
sufficient interest to merit preservation in the
p^a of *• N. & Q;*
Henby T. Wake.
■ ^th,
'"' 8c tiiescxceDtnte ^prificeue ct ma tre*-
mU et M treHhumblement que faire puis
li> me Kecommacde 1 Ala quolle plaice
ur Dhii}' Jay lleccu. le IVca quil vous a
htv I par lesqnelleifi me fiucte« sauoirqtio pais
iini? narire charRie dc vin? danxerrois poar la
piorision de lostd dc moua'' le prince ih ("a^Ulk* c*t du
y^ a «tc piin« et mis en tnanierc que J<*d' iiaviro et
vli.i ^>i. Ill Incontioeikt mia au ddivre | tt lea laisser
■' tr^«»T<*«»nente princcsse et ma trrabon-
c ' '' tion de voJ* d' IVes [ Jp feuz
•»* ntinent JefttTi|iiiy anmV de
d<iLi partir auetque lend' vitia I
t* ^|«e • r'tt; iaici c-n martiere qtiil e^t ee Jour I^huy
Wttfat t*Q hnnrf* dc C€st Villa I et ay ordonne au maibtre
dictHBy ii son bon plaisir et voulloir pour con-
• 1* y\ns pardevcrs vous. | Ku vons ap-
juc non pas seuUement en ce^t endroict
j*ct)nvpliiir«et fairo seraice | niai* en loutcs
a moy ^iA«$ibl<^ selon raon petit pouvir |
r' foire service trcsagreable
i .' bon Cotijsin. [
iU^ ]^>rincep«e ct ma tre«hon-
Js buppiie au benoist salnct esperict vtms
rl*»r6 accoiDplLssement de voz^tre*haulx et
i:^ Ic xxT*"» Jotir dttoust ] Ian xv*' &
\ 'f«j ireah amble & tr&^beiasant S<?rvit',
Gyldekt Talbot."
TljM superscription i& as follows, tiz. : —
^ \ tr"!tniilte et treaexceUente pHnccA^eet matraflbon-
M Adam 6 Margrarit« ArcbidtichesBe d'liiui-
t contf'^^*? de bourg" doiiaigi«re de Saaoye,
I. (, M^^. ^^ 4:ouvenian', etc/'
f'mTOrfl PrecUBSORS of TITK PRETE?f»ER. —
'■of July, 174*5, gires the folio w-
n adventurer: ^
T. We hav^c not yet heard to
i David Gillii» (who had assumed
tender's son) flr-d nfler jjetting
in Fife^ where he had be«n con-
'-=*. But *Ti< rrrtain br- ramti to
his
. find
i ,...,,.., Inlh.
Ii' *Vi!*itation of the
r/ * Jane Shore/ Ac,
d piccft'^ ; and Billy
1. But chusin^' rather
(d in an honest way.
r.ictens, and imposed
i jw life in the Ne%h-
bourhood of thi». Upon hearing that ivarrfint« were
1 ' ' apprehend! D{^ Gilli*, he fled t« ^'' .u
■r<m, where he paseed for I'eter I» |.
J itig the people dcvoutU' inclined, ht i ,, . , . i
prayed with them to Adinira'tion, and declared that
Whitcfield wa5 a first rate ftaint; but hearing that a
Party waa going out of this place to apprehend him, he
fled in tiic night time and left hia rvckotiiiig to pav as
UJiuaL"
About ft fortnight later it is stated, under dAi&
Edinburgh, July lO: — -
" David GiUis, who lately acted the Prince in the
Confines of tliia City, atidwho with his confederate
William liae was lately drummed out and banished
the County of Selkirk, is returned hither with hU con-
fuderate."
A week afterwards the London Gazette oflered
ita reward of 30tCKXJ/. for the ftppreheusion of the
real Pretender, if there can be such a designation*
B. a,
IIbavept Lbtters,^ — \ letter written in Gotha,
Germany, and publiahed in a New York news*
paper, contains the following passage : —
'* Oar old Fran told un she had a hrolber in the army, J
and when we txpreBscd a hope thnt nothinr; would htip«l
p<^n tu him^ she replied : * Oh I no, he has a Jieaven letlei
on him, he is all safe/ We aekefJ her what a Hiuivei^
letter was *t which ?hc seemed much ?tnTpri?*ed, wonder-J
iiiff that we had never heard of it. She said fieveral o
the peaaanlty of the village owned one, though wher
they orifrjnated or where ihtjy got I hem i^he did noti
know. We expressed nmcli interest, and faid that we
wanted much tti see what kind of thing it was that thua
protected it* wearer from all earthly ilh She i^eemed
mttch averse to speaking nbout it, and did not think sha
could get one for us ; but the neJtt moniiiig, before w«1
were up, she came to ua with one she had borrowed from
a friend, ft must have been ^'ery old, perhaps having
eome down from father to son; for though of pfirchment,
it wna worn in holep. It contained a not ilI-aketL'hedil
picture of the crucified Saviour, at whose feet lav an"
apple, cut open, and expodini^ the seeds to view, 1'herc
wpre a numb<^r of vcr^ea which we could not make out,
except that there were Severn! invoeatitma to the Trinity
ntid au indefiuite number of cru&aes.*'
Ukeda.
Philadelphii,
TliA. — The following notice of tea is copied
froiu the TieUftitm of the Vot/affe to Swm b*f SiyC
Jtigmth in lii^so^ London, 1(588, p. 2fjQ: —
" It is a civility am on erst them to present betle and ten
to all that visit them. Thuir own country i^uppliea them
with betle and areoa, but ther have their tea from China
and Japan. xVll the Orientals have a particular e^teen
for it, bccaufie of the great virtues thKnt* find to Ije in it
Their physicians say thnt it is a fmvereiLrn medicio#
against the ftone and paina of the head; that it allayi'
vapours; that it chcans the mind, and strengthen* ih
Ntomack. In all kinds of feavers they take it stronge
thnn commonly, when they Ix'gin to feel the heat of tb
fit, and then the patient covers himH€lf up to sweat, and
it hath been very often found that this sweat wholl;^
drives away the feavor. In the East they prepare th
tea in this manner: when the water if well boiled^ ihir^
pour it upon the tea which they have put into an earthefl^
pot, pToportionahly to what they intend to take CiVv^
ordinary- propi»rtioH ia a» mvicV\ tut ov^ii tftx\ \»J«,*i u^ V\\V\
r
140
KOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«' S. VIK Fwi. 18/71.
the finpcr And MiamU for n pint of water). tUen ther
cover the pot until the leaves Are sunk to thr» l>otlom of
it, And fttterward jfive it ttbout in china tlisU«ia to be
drank as hot as can be without su^car, or cl*e with a little
*nipar-cttndy in the mouth; and ufwn that tea more
boiling water may be pfmred, and so it may bo made to
aerve twic^. The»e people drink of it several limes tt-day,
but do not tbinli it whol^oro to take it faMting."
W. E. A. A,
Error in Neilt/s *'IIlstort of the VrKtiiNiA
CoMPAJjr/' — ^Neill in bis ]Ii»fonj of the Viri/inia
Compamj of Londoji^ p. 22o, writing of Willianj
Oleyborne, eecnstary of state for tbat colony,
says : —
**Edmuod5on, Quaker prtracher in IGIX m^t htm at a
religioas meeting, and was invited to enll iit hh houa«»
Soon after thin he mu^t have died, for tlie preai-dier in hb
journal says, * He was a solid wise man, rccciverJ the truth,
and died in the same, leaving two Friuud^i his execu-
This qnotatinii reFtTs to tbe com iiiissi oner
llicbard Benijt*t, und tiot to f'lsy borne. {Vide
Edmuntbsoa'ij Jourmtff a.i>. 1715^ p. 03,)
NlMBOD.
Pedestrian Feat of* Farad at.— I aee it efated
in an article on Farnday {Edinburtjh Iteiiew,l\i\y^
1870), tbat **one A&y he started alon« from the
Batha of Leuk, over the Gemini, past Kanderateg
and Fiutigen, nil the way to Thun, doin^f the
forty-five miles in ten and a half hours without
much fatio-ue and with no ill etfecta.*'
Considering the long aud feteep ascent of the
Gemmi, which oiust have been m.-ide in this
direction, the walk ia one of the most extraordi-
nary ones on record.
I apeali from my own pedestrian experience on
the line indicated^ Fbascis Thench.
lelip Hectory.
Kbncott, Oxon". — In the chancel of this church
on the south wall there is a curious monument —
curious not in itself, but from the fact tbat it is
Bet in a wooden case, with oak foldinj^ doors like
ft triptych to close over all and protect it from
injury/ It is to the memory of Richard Colches-
ter of Westhury, co. Gloster, D,C Jj,, who died
Sept. 11, I64a iUso to hla wife EliKaheth,
daughter of Sir Hugh Ilatnmersley, Knt,, Lord
Mayor of London, by Mary, daughter of Bald wine
Derham of Derhani, co. Norfolk The arms dis-
played are — Or, a chevron between three estoiles
^'ules [granted Itj20], impaling gules, three rams'
heads conped or. W, M, IL C.
P.S, In the head of the Norman door of thia
church is a hold carvin;,^ of Sagittftriua^ with the
letters sagitj the arrow has parted from tlie
bow-string.
THE VVINCIIESTEIt *^DOMUM" SOKG.
I do not recollect that any of your correspondentj
have ever suggested any inquiry as to the author
phip of the popular 9<ing, which precedes thi^
summer vacation of Winchester School^ called thij
**Donium.^' It has frequently been sung- in m.f
hearing, hut no inquiry of mine has ever be
satisfactorily ^answered as to the origin or author^ '
ship of it.
It has something of the air and aspect of ailfl
early mediceval hymn or chanson* On the oth^^^
hand, there are syraptoms in it of Martial and^
other eflrly Latin poets.
As an instance of the former, let me quote o^H
few lines from a song to the Virgin, prinWd in tKQ^|
" Poisiej* anfericurss an dmtzi^me Steele f* by Ed^S- •
lestand du Meril Paris, 1843 :—
'* Dormi, llti, duloe mater
Dulce meloB concinam ;
Dormi, nate, suave, pater.
Suave cArmcn aocinam.
Ne quid desit ntemam rosis,
Stcmam fomum violin
Pavlincntum hyadntlils,
Et pra?,M?pe liliik"
So in Martial (Epiff. 402) we have —
'* Phosphore redde diet)), quid ;;a(idia nostra mofl
CjJ*>are venturo^ Phosphore, rvdde dietu."
1 quote so much of the ** iJnmum^' song j
minds mo of the above passages : —
"Concinaniu?!, o ^oduk^if
Kja ! quir] ^«ilemtt:i I
Kobile canticuin
Dnlce melcs do mum
Dulce domitm rcionemus*
Appropinquat bora felix,
Ilora gaudiorum
Poat grave tedium,
Advenit omnium
MeCa petita labonim.
Donium, domum, etc.
Concinam us ad pen a tea
Vox et audiatur
Phosphore quid jubar
Si'gniuH emicanf*
O audi a nostra moratur ?
Domum, donvum, duico domum »
Dulce domum re^inemus,"
On the whole, I think we can a.<)»gn no tea
antiquity to this song, though it has some hapwl
touches in it. I shall be glad to hear what old
Wintonians can tell tis about it, E- S.
[<)wr correspondent in referre<l to **N» Jfc Q." !•* S« ;
66, 193; xi. 66; 4«i S. v. 382 j vL lUa.]
'* QiTEEiT Aroeuis.**— A poem under this titlo
appeared in Jitackvoods Moffadnv for I)HcemberJ
18:^11, Is its author known? The refereticej* 1
Dartmoor and Bubbicombe seem to indicate al
Devonshire man. Then, as to the eharacterj : — I
VII. F_B. 18, 71.]
XOTES AND QUERIES.
rugio \% of course, Melbourne. Who ia Sid-
lieU? Does Aotoaio moan Palmerstou ? The
cier I assunie to be Spring Rice, who wa^
created LordM<^ateagle on August 27^ 1839. Who
is Macario, '* of Gallic origin " ? lioujaillon is mani-
(«411t Lord llossell —
*» The best and trustiest of tlie Qaeen's divan."
The " orator of ^nnt force " is, doubtlesa,
Brougham, and 0'Connt!U the demagogue
♦♦ Wbo swayed a great part of the p^pulncx*."
, shall be very |2:hul to have information R8 to
Eother characters adumbrated by ibe poet*
"Makeocheir,
Blkaklet F\milt. — ^A branch of this
(ily settled in the county Down, Ireland, porne
in the reign of the second Charles or the re -
ibouts. They are traditionally said to have been
of English descent — probably from Yorkshire or
BevoQAhire, in which latter county there was a
^lice called Bleakley Hall. The crest or arms of
' ' ' h branch was a blackamoor or Saracen 'si
1 1 the prevailinp^ Christian names^ Davids
I and John^ which matters may afford a
he English progenitors. Tf aome of your
. .j.mdenta familiar with English family his-
', inoro particularly of Devonshire and York-
would afford tho inquirer information on the
they would jBToatly oblige L W. H.
Street, DoWBpatrick.
BiLLooim AND Xewspapers, — More than half a
wniury ni^o I read a novel called The Lu.'it Man*
1 tliink it was in four volumes 12mo. My father
W it in his library. When he, however, re-
niofed from his then reaidence in Bromley,
^^t, it was said, with the other weedings, by
^^ktioQ by Mesjtrs. Mandy. It was a novel of the
^Bfierva Press ^hool, the immediate predecessor
of the hoiisea of Bientley, Saunders & Otley,
t-'olburoi &c Whtjther the two prophecies I am
tbout to mention from it will assist Dr. Cum-
Jttbg in proving that we are near the eve of the
lilt dsy I am unaware, but certainly they are
qtdte pertinent to the present period.
1. In The Lmf Man (if I remember aright) all
Jnir«tfm^ was to be performed bt/ bailomi. This
lot yet quite accomplished, but tho French
" ment is using ballivons for its huainess pur-
and one of its moat important ministers^
has made an aerial voyage.
-. That neiCBpapera looitlH be publhhed every two
^''^nt. This prophecy certainly has been fulfilled,
^<>f what with various editions of threepenny
^'W4r, penny Zfailt/ TelegrupliSt Stamlards, vtc,
***«! first, second, third, fourth, and later editions
?^ halfpenny Ecltoes, we have now newspapers
•'^^ed oftencr than every two hours.
There were other curious statements in the
volumes, especially on© of which at present wo
have no signs, and I trust it will not occur in my
time — viz. that in consequence of the prod active
powers of the earth becoming exhausted, the last
man himself directs, a hundred years before his own
decease^ the people, who are then fast decaying
out of the world (no births taking place), to culti-
Tate the high and the bye roads, and to turn ike
chaimels of the rivers, so aa to obtain an unculti-
vated virgin soil whereon to raise a few cereals,
ily. Where can I see a copy of Tfte Lnd Man?
I have searched the British 'Museum catalogues,
and it is not there.*
Qy. When did the Minerva Press commence
publishing its wondrous lot of books, and when
did it cease its labours ? Mr, Colbum was, I be-
lieve, the originator of the present fashion of
3 vols, post 8vo novels at 1/. ILt. <M. ; or did it
commence in Scotland with jraverki/f I hope
that Mr. Yeowj;ll will reply to this question^
for no rrentleman is so thoroughly ncquain ted with
the subject. Alfred John Dunkin.
Dartfurd.
IT. P. BoxmoTOir.— Did this artist ever spell
** Bonnmgton" in wigning his works? Can any
of your readers solve my dilficulty P T. S. A,
[In Brynn'^ Diet, nf Painter* (1 BID) this name is spelt
Boiinini^ton. The following parMf^raph also appears; —
** Poatc-rity should be miule aware that ma.ny pictures
And drawing>it JtitlributeLl to ihi^ arli^t, are capioa and
iinitntioiij^ made to siiUsfy the avidity of collectorj*, and
amply ti> nMnutierate the skill of the copyist and the
cupidity of the dealer,"]
Calvit*- axi> Servetus. — Can you or any of
your correiipondenta inform me if there is unques-
tionable authority for the statement that Calvin
w^as personallv present at the burning of Servetua ?
F.
Inverness.
[See «N. & Q." 4«» S, i. 2G0, 394 ; ii. 40, C8, 108, 16fl.]
CniLBREN's Gambs. — What is the origin of the
common game ia Scotland, in which the follow-
ing rhymes occur .^ —
** How mnny miles to Babylun?
Three score and ten.
Shdll i be there by candlcdight ?
C) yoj, and bacit again.'*
I can vouch for its being as old as 17D6, at any
rate. S.
[A description of this ami a similar game* with a more
complete version of the lincii, b given in II. Chambem^ji
Popular R/iymts of Scotland, edit. 1870, p, 12;t.]
Cistercian Monastery.— Would you inform
me which is considered the finest Cistercian mon-
r* The fill h wing work ia in the Britiflh Musenm :— '
**The LiiAt Man, or Omegams and Syderin,, a Romance
In Futurity. Two Vol*. H. l>uttfln* 15^ CAt*RSLft\Mi\«i\v
Street, l*H*il/' kheuteredm lU« uvNt t&^»Xt^^\3A NascA^t
the word "Omcgarua," pi«»-mat\L'S.yi\.^Li&r\
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
L#i^S.VII. FKa.i8, 71 J
aaterv, or rather niias of nn^^ in En<rTond; and
whctker there is any good account of it ?
A FOBEIGKER,
rOur ooTrespondent shouhl e^nuiilt A Jimiftbuoh to tfm
Ahhvtf of St, Murtf of fumtMs^ in Litncttthtre^ Ulverston,
JH^'i.' 8vo, whii'li t'oiititim tt ^rscriptian of this (umtd
Cistercian abbcy^ with ill u^tra lions-.]
Criticism our "MEHCHA?fT op Venice**; Mrs,
DoWKtyo. — L I rr^coUect bfiTin^rc^ftd an anecdote
of a child, noted iti after lifo for its literarj' or
social puidtion, which, during a rppresentation of
Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice^ towards the end
of the fourth act, where Shylock leaves the
court, indignantlj exclaimed, '*Tho poor man is
wronged!'* Can any of jour readers inform me
who this child waa, and by whom this anecdote
IB related ?
2t Can any of your readora give some account
of the Irish poeteW Mrs. Downing, some of whoea
impassioned poems are printed in I^Ter*B Lyrks
of It\'hnd (pp. 220, 229, 317) ? Have her weina
ever been published in a collected form ? When
and where was she bom, and when did she die ?
The more dates the account contains, tlu^ more
acceptable it will be. Kakl Elze, Ph.D.
Dewaui Feb. 7, 1871.
CoKRiM EXGLLSH : " WUETHKR 'OR IfO.'^^
Why do persons, otherwi«?e welUiufonmnl, give
themt*«.4ves the biibit of uBing- the phrase *' whether
or iu> *' instead of " whether or not *' r* Cureless-
nefis of the kind is scarcely pardonable in conver-
sation and in private corre^pondf-nce ; but surh
**6lip-shod" Engli.sh i» inexcuanble in those who
write for publication. The critical readers of
'* N. & Q/' will oblige by Bupportinp" thw view of i
the question if they agree willi the writer, or vice )
veriul^ for after all there maij be two opinions on !
the subject, and it woidd be curious to know
upon whiit grounds the phra^ which I ooiri plain
ol could be defended. M. A. B.
EvELYi?*:! "DiABY."— At Puris, 1040, Septem-
ber 12—
" IH. Crighton, a Scotchman, and one of his maJcsiieV
chop I ami, a l(»anied Grecian wlio 9«t out the C4>uiicil of
Florence, pre»ebecl.
What ran this mean ? Tb<^ Council of Florpn ?€,
a cr>nliuiiiitJon of that of Fermra, being held in
14.')iP to 1442^ the object of which was the re-
union of the Greek and Latin churches; and no
Other having been called since that of Trent until
the present now in rece59. J. A. G.
Carlabrouke,
[MveJvn'^ allusion is to Dr, Robert Cmif^titcsn'H work,
entillud '* Vera tlbtorta Utiionis nun veriw int^r Griteoa
ct Lrttinofl : sivc Conciiu riorenUni exttcL narratio, Gr. et
LaU, HagiP, 1660, fuU"']
QinsB A2ffD GtJizoT. — This name ha«^ generally
^eett pronounced as if frpelt in Ivtigli^h Gheeze ;
hut as M, Gaizot ia sma to prououoce hia ovb
name oa Gtveeso^ and M the place from which j
duke takea his title is marked in the hmti
tionaries (as an exception to more thaaj
words beginninsr Gui) to be pronounced
Fn, or ffwetw, En^», it mijfht be presumed t
di)ke*s name should follow the same proci
tion. What is he really o«Il«il by well-ednci
Frenchmen i* W. >L T,]
Hervht or HERREr.— With Riblos of the i
teenth conturv there is often bound up "In
ri^ht profitable and fruitful Concordancej
collected by K. F, 11.,*' the preface to wi
signed ** Tfiine in the Lord, Robert F. Her
and dated Dec, 22, 1678. In catalogues
author of these Concordances is at diilerent dn
called Hervoy and Ilerrey, and 1 am unable i
make out from inspection of several copies wli
ther it is an r or v. Can any one (ell me \ ;
also, whether anything is known of him P
8. n. A, E
Lambeth.
[Robtrt F. Herrej', the editor of the ConcortUnec^ If
unknown to fflrae. The loUowin^ Hiiiiuns M UU iwrit
(in* in Ihc British Mus<!iLm^l579, IhfiO, 1508. IClb, iCt^.
AtEXAXDRR Jamiesox, M.A. — Who «aj hfl?
lie IS described as the author of A Cekdifd MUf
London, 1822. L.aB. '
Portrait of Joiny Kat, — I am Terr mmtm
to iind a certnin lithographed portrait of Joba j
Kay, of Bury, the inventor of the ** flv ^ ■"•■■*'
and the ffithur of the present (*ysit*m
manufficture. The portrait to which i .l. . .-^
published in March 1843, It wa^ drawn hr W,
Physick, and hthographed byMadfK ."^i V^^llin^^ |
ton Street, Stnmd. If any of your ia-
form me where I can purchase or - ;ii#i ]
lithographs I ahall feel much obliged.
B. WOO|H3«OII
Sui SAMtrfiL LurE's Letter Boor. — \Vu tMi 1
old Letter Book of the Revenleenth centurj*, not ]
1 believe in the British Museum, ever prittted?
Hexry T. Wiii
Cockermouth.
fThe Letter Book of Sir Samuel Lak^ the hm^l
HwlifmiAt is io the BritUh ^Tkinfuin, Kgerton SiSi ]
7H.5-7H7. It has never been priuted,] '
Feast of the Nativitt. — I should feel ifl«di
obliged for information as to the earliest rMcorJof j
the roDuuemoration of the Feast of the NalivifJ
on December 25, I believe it to ho a viVj
an(*iont institution, though not traceable to Api**
atolic times. Has it any connection with ti*^
astronomical quarters of the year? At what period
did it assume the character of aalurnalia ?
[A reference to that most WMfnl vnlame, Tk* /V^^^T i
\ Book Ihterlecned^ \si Ctm^iUiCL and Botiil4Kil» 1
kS.VU. FtB. 18,71.]
KOTES AND QUERIES.
143
o«f «»rfr*f»fiin(1pnt fxt^y i!if'^rmat1*in he oan require am
t«-',i I a by Viirioa<i churclie:! uf
*i' 1 tie Westx^rn Churchy from
ti ' ............ cU tho Nativity oq the 25 ih
:rc*—l have seen it inore thun once
*^ 10 cniu of le'^s ralue thrm tho denarius
^ by our ItlngUsh kings prior to tbti
7' ^mt in a le<:,^^l deed of thti ninth year
^^ of Tiichard I. I find '' tits soh &ex
^«tt* eL f." Wm the alllUum a coin?
In tJ'fr' iL Cambridge deeds of the rt'i^i
c>* I the qundrann is mentioned, and in a
li o f t h e Bam(» re i^n t he obo!u4, Th i 1 1 p pe
ATi^ru-tte uf France (1180-1 i!2^r) etruck a variety
of coina of amall value. Did they perhaps be-
^' t in England in the time of our Kor-
I'- OUTIS.
'MV\r^i:oi.nerA Chkonica/* — 13 this a work on
ttci^snt genewd history, &l\, or is it isimply genea-
teioftl? Robert Cary, the author, was son of Sir
IL C&ry of Cockin^rt<ni Ilouse, Devon, and had a
!lit»ther« Colonel Theodore Ctiry, who married in
1R7C, in JarniiifMi, Dorothy WalL I may have it in
tny p uT^ r to vider some su/gostioas touching' thia
hmach uf thy Cary family when my q^uery hus
bcf^a *ii(*\v»-rcd. Sr.
^^' I' -^ ' .-» '- ^*Tftp{fhqta Chronica is n Chroiio-
f nt Time, ia Three Purt«^: t.
^' ."d; 3. CunonicJil. Lond, 1677.
that " the design of tliin work
' ' ' interval of time between the
"^ ^' i'»n of the worM, and another of
" ' I 1 ' I I i *li?m by Titus A'e'^ptisiaii, in order
' ' : MjfiiL I'l -iwh pflrticular limp, wherein per-
i of oM had their existence/^]
SO. — This instrument made its first
«nimrjMtc»: in London at C^a ent Garden TbeatttJ
•Votit 17:iO, It rarmji cousiderablti eeuaation,
^ ' in Pi-^me work of the time.
^ it oblige me with a reference
^^.' James GiLBKBT.
i'et, Peckliatn, 5i.E.
I rte is cUlmed
i-ti, \\'\ui mniiu-
id i.'rijp, E»«|,,
Iff/, tTom V purchaned by
<. TUwe.11 notice of thii!
iin» tjt vtA% at * ov. ut <j.(r4en Theatre on
hee a copy of thu play-bdl in " N. & Q."
f VLoa V m. — Will some cour-
^ - - - .M.Jly «?nd me the addre&se4i of
A few dirjilem in old prinlti who hisue cat^dnguea?
J. L. CllKkRT.
HarelMiV Placr, R4nl€y.
I'^catisr Squftre.
OLE CuuRcniTs.— Can
i to the following liat
of churches in SuflVdk that contain painted
rood ftcreens, or pmnted panek of any kind ? I
know of Southwold, Eye, LTtTord, Yaxley, Den-
ton, Deuham, Sapiston, Blundeston, West li all,
Bramfield^ Btidwell Agh, A description of any
ejccept Southwold and Yaxley would b« mos^t ac-
ceptable. I believe the 8cre4fn3 or panels at Sapis*
ton and Badwell Ash are very curious.
W* Mabsh*
7, Red Lion Square*
BBAurr Sr^EP.— I was told the other day that
this appellation was given to all the sleep which
visits u» before ttiidnight. fs thid its commoa
defiignation elsewhere than in Lancai^hir^ ?
Jeremy Tatlotl — Are there any persons nf
the name of Taylor, at present living, who are
lineally descended from the great divine ? Thero
was a family of this name ut Carmarthen, sup-
poaed to be lineal descendants, eome of whom
married into the family of Jloney of Waltham-
stow, who are snid to be descendants of tbd
I Moneys^ a very old family in Norfolk at Wells-
on-the-Sea, whose name in the eleventh and
twelfth centuries waa I.*e Money. Itobert Money
' married Sarah Taylor in 17l?4» and she is supposed
[ to be one of the Taylors of Carmarthen, lineal |
d«fScendimtB of Jeremy Taylor. Ia there any hook 1
' or manuscript in which such connectioti coiald bo
I traced and verified ? J-
" TiTE Seven Wondbbs dp W^aibs " is «i old
sfiying in the Principality, and is one that waa a J
household word long before Stephenj*on'a TubulATl
Bridge, or even Teltbid'e Snapensiou Bridge over
the Meuai, were thought of. These wonders all
I relate to Nortli Wales, and are as follows: — The
' mountain of Snowdon, Overton churcljynrd, bella
of Gresford church, Llangollen bridge, AV rex ham
steeple (qu> tower I, Pystyl llhaindr waterfall, and
, 8t. Winifred's well. Can any readers of '*N. & Q."
[ tell when the saying originated, and why (some
of) these places were deemed mote espr^cial won-
ders than other Welsh attractions or novelties ?
A.B.
09WC5tr3%
[See**X,&Q/'4«i*ah5nO
PEDIGREi: OF B. R. HAYDON' TEE HtSTORICSAL
rAiKTi:R.
(4»^ S. vii, 60.)
The query of N, aiiniits of an immediate reply
Thertt is no aatiifactory evid?^'^ -^ '*' '^-^of of the
allegation in my father's -1 / that his
father was a ** lineal de.*cendii J ; t \ dona of
Cadhay/* Two statementrt oi -<^uenX
have indeed beeu mude \>y .i\^?s» «vl
144
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'»SVII.F«a. l«,'n?
hi
k
Mr. Haydon'« family, but the? are mutually
inconsistent, aod at lea^t one of tliem is opposed
to facts which a careful investigation into the
ledigree of iho Hajdons of Woodbury and Cad-
Lav bas receally brought to my notice.
the more precise of the«e two statements is^
tbat the paternal great-grandfather of the painter
was "inpoeaesaion of the Cadhay eatate/* The
more vague, that the father of tlie painter -waa a
descendant of rt ynunger brother of the Cadbay
Haydon who '* ruined the family." The former
dep'ouda solely up^on the oral teatimony, often re-
pented, of one of the sisters of my lather's pa-
ternsd grftiidfather, llobert Haydon, which was
committed to writing about fifty years since by
her nieee : the latter, upon the oral testimony of
my paternal grandfather, Benjamin Haydon.
Now, it will be easy to show that Robert
Haydon, who was born in 1714, could not bare
been a 1 estimate son of the last Haydon of
Cadhay, nor a son — legitimate or illegitimate — of
any of his pivdecessora.
Gideon Haydon^ the last of bis family who
fossesaed Cadhay, was the eldest son of Gideon
laydon, junior, of Cadhay, and Alice bis wife.
He' was born between March 12, 1005-0— at
which date there was no issue of the mar-
riage of his parents — and Get. 0, lOOtf, when
lie was bap titled at Ottery St. Mary, lie married
Ann, the widow of Thomas Hanhury, mert^bant
of London, one of the brothers of John H an-
bury, Esq., of Woodford, co, Devon ; she was oue
of I lie daughters of John Fawscett of Beaconsfield,
CO. Bucks, gentleman. The marriage took place
on October 30^ 17'2t\ nine years after the birth of
Robert Haydon. There is not only no evidence
of an earlier marriage, but it la nearly certain that
this Gideon Haydon left no legitimate i^sue at bis
death in Februar)', 1748-9, while Robert Haydon
survived him by moro than four- and- twenty
yenr^, and Ilobert HaTdoii's elder brother, John,
by more than thirty. Xeithar of them then could
have been a legitimate son of the hist Haydon of
Cadhay ; and as it is very unlikely that a boy under
nineteen years of age tthonld have two children,
it is very unlikely that Robert and John Haydon
should have been bjs natural sons*
The last Haydon but one who possessed Cad-
bay died in March 1700-7," seven years before
the birth of Robert Haydnn, His immediate pre-
decessors died in 170:?-3 and in l*J0i^4,
These facts, which rest upon the most satis-
factory evidence, appear to me to dispose of the
more precise of the two versions of the Cadbay
atory, I may, however, add that the fact that
Robert I ray don most probiibly lost his father
when he was about nine or ten years of age — that
is, in 1723 or 1724— is another argument against
the Identic cat ion oi that father with any of the
■H^jrdoua of Ciidhar. Due stL^picious circum- \
stance about this form of the story is thia : tEat it
does not appear that liobert Haydon himself fever
testified to its truth* It is unfortunate that the
account, if true, should depend entirely upon the
testimony of persons belonging to the mop« in-
accurate of the two sexes. This account of the
descent of ilr, Haydon's family has found its way
into print more than once, the moat drcnmstan-
tial form of it being that in the lUHstraUd London
News of July 4, 1846> It occurs alao in the
£jreiw Flxjmg PtiM. of August 31, 1848.
The second version of the Cadhay story, beujg'
more vaguely stated than that which has been
just dealt with, is less easily brought to the test
of facts and dates. Who tte particular Cadhs?
Haydon was who " ruined the family/* it would
be extremely difRcult to determine. The ruin of
a family of **gre»t estate," as the Haydontof
Cadhay were, is, or \ib/&A to be, a gradual piocesB^
needing the sustained efforts of many generations
for its perfect accomplishment. But if any ua^
Cadbay Haydon, rather than any other, is to b<*
selected as the one who brought about the salfl of
the property, it is certainly the Gideon whod
in n02-a In 1708 a private Act of Parli
(7 & 8 Anne, No. 64) was obtained* under wHd
Heveral of his est^ites were sold for the piivuu'ntofl
his debts, which amounted to about "IQfyoOL l\
can, however, find no evidence that etther of I
bi^ youuger brothers — William, who died inf
1722, and John — ever had a eon or gra&dsdili{
Robert. The former was twice married, tbefifll]
time to a lady whose Christian name was Porotbjr I
by whom he appears to have had one daujrliter j
Dorothy, who married Nicholas Fry at Otteiy St J
Marv on July 0, 1704, She was a widow bif(w|
April, 1714, William Haydon married his secondi
wife, Frances Putt, of Ottery iSt. Mary, widow, i»l
l0f)5, when he was in his fifty-third year. Icia* 1
not find evidence of any issue by this mftiriji^ I
His brother John Haydon, who waa a wooUwi^J
draper, had a wife and a daughter Mary, and a I
living in April 1714. He was very problblf
identical with the John Haydon of WoodbiiiyJ
buried there in August 1724, and with
'* uncle " of that name, who is mentl.iaed
deceased in the will of the last Gideon i»f Cidh»y^
and to whose son John and daughter Alary ci^
tain bequests are made by their *' cousin/* ' WiH
liam Hflvdon sometimes lived at Cadhay during
the minority of the last Gideon. John lifted wid>_
his brother Gideon for aln>ut five years, ap
rently at Cadhay, after leaving LrOoSon in 16
There remain the younger brothers, Thomss l_
Robert, of the Gideon of Cadbay^ who died ill
1706-7, and the younger brother Yhonnis oftk^
last Gideon of Cadhay. The latter is out of T
question, for he was not bom until 1703.
regard to the two former, l^hojuas was
on January :24, 1671-2, and Robert tnust*
NOTES AND QUERIES.
145
l^een ttpyruds of elxie^a ye&rs of age on May 12,
10^^ for bk name appearr^ in the book of the rate
l#fied at that date in Otter j St. Marj for the
'* reduction of Ireland." 1 haie Dot &ucceeded in
traciag these twi> brothers later than March 12,
1095-0. I should bt} very gkd to obtain further
information about them or their progeny.
I may add that Robert JIaydon, mv great-
grandfatber^ v^aj» for many year« the pariah cleik
of Charles Church, Plyoiouth, lie was also a
bookseller and printer, aod La i^aid to ha?e intro*
duced the firat printinf^ prcas into Plymouth, His
elder brother John wn6 pamh clerk of St. Jatnea's
Churchy BrktoL Eohert Huydon came, accord-
mg to his only daughter, from Ottery when ho
•WHS nine years of age, that is, in 1723, and inraa
appreDtieed to a Mr, Savery — probFibly Waltham
Savery, bom 1G92» died 1778 — of ShiJe, near Ivy
Bodge, and afterwards acted a* his stewani Hb
began life, on his itwn account, as a fiign -painter.
The min of the Cadhay Haydona is auppo&ed to
hkte hern the cause of his early apprenticeship,
ind of that of his hrnther John. Cadhay was,
Irfswprer, not sold uutil 173G, aud the Chancery
?iich led to the aale was not commenced
i iijyoiing"er brother of the la^^t Cadhay ITaydon,
ThmriiC^ died in 17/j4. lie had two sons — Thomas^
who died without issue, and Josiah
ne), an attornev. The latter died in
1^' two sonft, William ami George, and
"f. The elder eon I believe to be
■<■.. ,1 .li v^ iih the Lieutenant William Ilaydon of
Ct: ;k'-me meuHontyd by Lysons aa being* the
ri!|>rL;i«?ntative of the Haydona of Cadbav.
FkAKK Scon &AYBOK.
U«t©n, Surrey,
WAR SONGS t AN IMPERIAL LETTER,
(i*** S, vi. 383, &c.)
Th*' followiUfx 8'>nj^^ (or satire) is traualated from
tin* French. It appeared originally in the Cow -
' ' '>f Frihourg (Switzerland), andia probably i
i by one of the refugees at present in that
ible city* My ver^on i'* tolerably literal,
jh it was made hastily in a car*5 of Lau- |
-M-, and when the paper waa engaged *' three
w four deep," to use tfie lang-uage of the gar^on.
jAiiKS He^'ry Blsox.
" YcTfaillea, Jan. 1, 1871.
"This cmnef hoping^ it will find yon
Well, Its 1 am fit my luneh,
WiiHhing down a German sau^ga
With a bowl of Rhfiiiali punch.*
1 urn io a anug apArtmeot,
ATtfl mr tire is b\utw^ bright.
II. fw I pity ihoxu fHKJr devild
Who 4r».' ill lh<? .^now to-nigbt !
* " I>r.>wn*d all in Rb^nish oad the sleepy itit-ad,**^
" We have gain'd some noble trophies,
We have bad atume rare good foa.
Burning villager by hundreds,
Faruis nnd homeatcinis— iiparing none.
Country daitiwula my brave soldier.i
Take for wives without the aid
Of popwh priest or Lutheran pastor —
Mor« to tell you Vm afraid.
•* We'vfl borabflrded mmny a city.
Killing infants at their play,
Wnat of that? small mouths' want feeding—
Board is cheap beneath Ihe clay 1
Strai^buTg's fine and huo^e cathedral
Now has somewhat aTtc'ji^d luok5.
And we'd such a jolly bontire
With a lot of fusty books I
"Think not that we atop at trifles;
la a town we found a mayor
Who was loyal to Ilia couatr\%
So bis worsibip danced iu air !
In another place the prefect
And Ilia clerk we di(iti*t bong,
Aii * variety is charming/
It with ihein was bang ! hang^ ! bang I
"France is now in tribulation ;
Ketributiua follows wrong;
She is blending jeremiads
Wiih De Lble's triumphant song.
Would I were beside yo\i bearing
Victor}''* shouts from all arise ;
//ere Fve only widows* cur.tes
JJix'd with orphan children's eriei*
"But Fin sleepy — inidniRbt sotindeth —
What 1$ that? I know the tread-
Hiisb, 'tiH Bin mark ! and he tells me,
'Emperor ! you must go to bed.*
If Fill lord, ^tis he is master %
So mv letter I must end —
Bear Augusta ! salutation
From your spouse and loving friend. — W."
A SCRIPSIT.
(4^'* S. tL 567.)
These sheets went out of use (I think) in thai
fiTjit quarter of tbe present century. In tbe mordi
rural districts tliey may have continued later, ^
^Mu.'U r wa<i at school, 1815-25, we used aheets '
with elaborate flouridhings— birds, i>en8j and fiuch
like,
A few yeara siut^e the old atoclc of a stationer ]
came into my hands, and amongrst it were some of ,
these aheettj new and clean ^ which I preserved, all
coloured except one. I have the following (a few
duplicates) : —
Kutb and Boaz.
Measuring the Temple. (Esekid.)
Philip baptizing tbe Eunuch.
The Good Samaritan.
tluflbuaV Command.
John preaching in the Wildern^s.
Tbe Seven WonHersof the World.
Kiii^'Wimam IIL
FauFs Shipwreck.
(All tbe atiove published by WtllkViVk, ^t\!^'^ 'SiXaw^,
Cnioo Street, iioroug,h.)
146
NOTE S AND QUERIES. [4'» s. vii. f«.. is. ti/
Tlie Lour* Pmyer and Ten Commandmeilta.
McM^'^ strikin;; the l»ock.
Healing the yiek in the Temple.
(PublLsheU by ILLangleyi 173^ High Street, Borough.)
Cniii and Abel.
Life ofSamnel. (Dated 1823.)
<juceii £liziitj€th.
The Vidoiis uf Esekiel. (Diited 1824.)
Buth and Boax.
Life or Imac.
Copenhagen.
(Publislied by Dean Sc Munday, Thread aeeJIe Streot.)
The Coronation of Gi^orj^c IV,, July ID, 1821.
CaractacoH b«*fore ClftudJus.
BalAitm bleMttig Ismol.
LiftJ uf Pharaoh. (J^ot coloarad.)
Christ henling tlie Side.
(Publisbeti by T. Fairbam. 110. Minori««.)
Xfttivily of Jeati3 ClirinL
(Published by W. 3l4aon, 21, Ckrlcjcnwel] Green,)
With them wore a few (three or four) with the
central part filled up, serviii;^ in ibid st»te lor
decowtions for the cottages of the lower cW^es,
This change would indicate a falling olT in the
demand from achoola.
Wo always called them Bpecimens or pieces,
written tirst on louse sheets (many were spoiled
and rejected as not good enough) and afterwards
stitched together by the master and taken home nt
the holidava, I have seen nothings correspoinling
to either of late jears. Sam. iSiiA w.
Audover.
T well retnember these Christmas exhibitions
of handwriting; but I never heard them called
** Scripsite,'^ but always ** Christmas pieces.^' They
were sold by stationers for the purpose, and
uauftUy contained a large picture of the Nativity
at t bo top, though neither the head nor tail pieces,
nor those down the Bides, were confined to sacred
Bubjecte. The last I had was in 1808, and wa^
adorned with coloured enj^ravings of national
heroes and costume. In echools, however, they
were often superseded by half sheets of foolscap
paper written upon length wieo, and often orna-
mented with tlourishing of such fignreunsanaugel,
a swan, an eagle, or a pen. After the French
Bevolution the eagle was the great favourite,
and he grasped a scroll inscribed " Libertv/'
F. 0. H.
The folio sheets alluded to by M, D. aro still
infuse, and. are known aa "Christmas pieces/*
Some years ago a comic song was very popular,
of which the burden was
** Would you like to look at my rhristaia* piece ? '*
The late Mr, Herbert of Sadler's Wells, m
famed as *^ that rascal Jack,'* used to.sin": it
dressed as a LoDdon charity boy. In the enter-
tmnmeut at '* AmAteuia and Actors" tke song
waa occasionnlly introduced by Qeoffry Muflmpi
a charity- boy, who had become fVictntiim to l1
manager of the " Theatre Rural Finchley/*
" Please sir/' said G»*nffry, " when I sttows Utat tu
fftnfhtntfKi^ > me RLXpenr*'-"
"Very v nmn^ef. " Til fallow tilt ed»-
tj^m ; but '\ .. J.. ., u, iVv? " Cpoi^lhijj to «
blot),
** Please, sir, / didn't do thai^ii wm Bob Biirroi ^
And now, sir, m you're a gentleinim, you shall lo©k'
inv ChrUtfHas piece as often jw you like /ar nalUmy
ti///*
*^Scripsit ** was at the bottf)m of the folio on t
line where room was left for the pupil's no
but I never beard a Christmas piece called^
scrtpsit, James Henry Pixo
HERALDIC.
(4*" S. vii. 12.)
1. A man marrying a widow not ^n heif^
the daughtj-tr of one entitled to l>ear armit, wou
JmpaU her paternal arms only, although, in
tractinff a second marriage, he might, if so
posed (but in very queationable ta^te), impale (
arms of both wives. In that event he woi
dispose his own coat on the right of the Ijnei
impalement, and those of his two wives* pifl*
per fesse, on tht^ lijft — the upper portion off*'
subdivision being given to the pateroal coat
his former virife. In practice the arms of the*
first (or, if more than two, preceding wivea) nw
usually omitted.
2, The issue of a gentleman not po^^*Med of a
coat of arms — and uf aucb ther« are recorded
examplea, even in time« when heraldry waa fttp*
posed to possess a significance — whiKSe* father luu
married an heirca?, would, I think, in ilie absfeflfis
of a paternal coat, be entitled to use the plaJ*
coat of his maternal grandfather, whose line hidJ
merged in bis own person. No such caie couiJ|l
however, happen in actual practice; becaus* i|
gentleman marrying an heiress, being vtithoat i
coat of his own, would, if of the requi^te 80C^
status, obtain a grant of arms from the HeraWW
College on payment of the customary fec^, and OB
these he would place the paternal arms of lu*
wife in an ** escutcheon of pretence,** i. f. coo*
tained on a miiiute shield occupying the et«^
centre of Ma own. This is the usual wav, tho«ffc
I believe it is patent tti the husband in his oj^uoo
to adopt either this or the ordinary form ot ut'-
palement. Failing such grant, I presume it \y mli
be competent to the issue of such marria^'i* t'^
apply to the College of Arms for a coat v^'ii^
wiiich to quarter his maternal insignia. In Mj^
case, as I beliwvc, bis right to the armorial I
ing of bis mother's family would not be aliect*
hy the eircumstance that bis father did not
aess a coat of his own ; and although it is ^
, VI auc\i c»aKife \A txswxt^t both coats^ it ia
i«*S. Vtl. F*B. 18,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
147
kts own.
'^ ' that a coat cannot bo quar-
h d(»es not exist. Until
' •cttut period, the luiaband
A hid wHls whether nn
, ,^, "- ly tt hufihiuid quartered
wife, beia^ rin hf-ire&fl, in wUiob
i ^*be gcnt'tftlly |)la<^t!d her arm^
XI.
1, In reply to the first query of W. M. H. C.
Kto the suppositiou of a widow not an boiresa
frying a^^nin, what arms should her second
tband impale, her father's or her former hus-
^hukd's? I would «ny thnt n femme not an heiress
would, oo bet oniin^ a widow, rt^tarn the impjtkd
inilS of h(*r decer^t^d husband and htrcielf upon a
luieiiifM : but in the event of her niarrjinp^ a
, >sbe would c«f»t8t' to bear her tirst
raia. But there U an exc«^ption to
i"ule, in the case of the femme being
►f a peer. For if she were to marry a
3he would still continue to bear the
f^t h^r form*ir husband on a separate lo?;etjge ;
^lier shield, her second husband would
paternal arms^ — tho two forming a
'I' yielding pret^edcnce. If, how-
» marry a second peer, sbo would
us i>f her former husband, unless
I J hijiher than that of her second.
^ JlfTaldty/, Historical and Popular ^
ipter on *' Mai'shalling,*' &e.)
-' * the second query, as to an
an hmrt?*^, could the iaaue
., , .,. iii in nny way? 1 w^ill quote
M Cusmn's Handbook of JItrraldnj
one without armoHfil bearinjcr^^
-f lie could make no n^e what-
tus: <t>r, hnvinj:: oo es^tttehcon of hii owti,
I " could not char^ her f^bicJd of pretence \
TKini their iv«ue« bc-iDg luable to quiurter, be
10 h<^ar thdr maternal coat."
not an exception to this, in the
marrying au heiress, and having
' liter, and subsequently
1 a ? The I at ter wo ul d
Hj , iiud the daughter to the
Ti r vrould hero be entitled to
♦- ,..ui% and also her father's by
it in the case W, Mc IL C. puts
' nn jiiTita to be incorporated),
T be entitled to '* bring
ne to the coat of any
might marry; in such a case cer-
ijr an adrantage over her non-armi-
' therP J, S. Udal,
J nuiClob.
PW&itted
W hcii
l&Otiier.
WhrT
(tli. I.
BOOK OKKAMENTATIOX.
(4«»' S. vL 5C7 ; viL 111.)
The ''bookbinder near Leed^t or Skipton," n*-
furred to by P. P.^ was doubtless Kdwards ^f
Halifax. GlJOROE M* GritEES.
'i7, King Williiim Street, Strand*
I have a small Bible, purchased aome twelve
yeara ago in Chippenham* and then apparentlyj
new, on the edges of which are the namei* of th©|
boolis in their proper order. The edges are giltyl
and the names are visible only when the leaveai
are slanted. HiC £T miKHTB.
i>, Ltti4 caster GAti^ W,
A manuscript folio volume in the library of
Trinit}^ College, Cambridge, rontaiiung the poem,
of ** Gene rides*' snd Lyd gate's* ** Siege of Thebes
and Troy/' has its three edges ornamented witk .
armorial bearings, which are the same aa those ^
on the margins and in the initial letters, and aii^l
parently belonged t^ some form«r possessors. Tno 1
date of the ikIS. is about the middle of the
fifteenth ceotary, that of the armorial bearings
somewhat later — perhaps the reign of Ilea, Vu.
My own impression is that the MS. was decorated
in' this way for a wedding pre^sent, and that tha
arms belonjired to mf'tubers of the families 80 J
united by marria-re. There va^ a marriage in the
reign of Hen. YIL between two families whoaa
arms I have been able to identify in the book.
WiLLLVM ALDia Wbtokt,
I have always seen and beard Edwards of Hali-
fax accredited 'with the production of tho?e books
bound at the beginning of this century which ^
have landscape and other paintingrt on their edges.
That he did produce some I think thert-. i^ as
littlo doubt as tluit tho nuns of Little Gidding
embroidered covers for Bibles and Prayers in the
seventeenth century j but I do not believe, indua-
ti'ious as these nuns were, that they were the
artificers of idl or even nearly all the bindin;rs of
that character, and just so Edwnrds of Halifax
hn^ been over-credited with work of the kind now
in question. I have had in my hands many of .
these books, and I think two of every throe have '
borne the following inscription: — ** Bound and
sold bv Taylor and Heasey.*' I have one so in-
scribeil, and have seen many others. I have
occasionally seen Edwaids^s name affixed, and '
others have no name.
Basil MoNTAGtr PicKKRnro*
The following extract from a bookselloT's cata-
logue may interest F. M. 8. : —
'•514. Uojier'a Pocmn, printed bv Bcnslev, with WcffiA.-
ctitu fr<>ra Dmwhjgs hy SMith«td, \\vV:s oia \t\?iAa. "^^wt-*
ilrst edition, l*2tuo, h<m'ud lu Uwe moTr*<:«Ai, ^ClVi '^^^^^^ **
NOTES AND QUERIES.
n. 18, 'ri-
ch arming colour<>d Drawint? of Old Derby Hridgfl on ilie
gilt edge, by Edwardj* of HiilifjtXt I'Ik. 1812/*
Thia tt^mpting' little volume was offered for
8rtl« by Messrs. C. & G, Noble, ol2^ Stnmd, in
Catalogue XXIII. 1868. W. G. Stone.
Eleven Shilling Peecbs op Ckarlbs I. (4"*
S. vii. 65.) — There never was an English coin
cuprent of exactly the worth of eleven ehillings.
Early in the reign of Charlea I. there were angek
or ten-ahilling pieces struck, the estimated value
of which waa a little above eleven shillinf^s and
fourpence. (Folkes^'a Table of EttglUk Gold Coins,
p. 8.) Poasibly^ though not very probably, these
are the coins alluded to. Would E. P. give the
wordfi of the will to which he refers? 311,
DEXARrus OP Da uses, Skfior (4"* S, vii, 95.)
There h no such coin as the one described by
J, n. H. to be found in either Rasche, Eckhely
or Cohen, There is none even on which he beara
the title of " Prineepa Juventutis;' 311.
Tht3 SwAjf Song of Pailson Avhrv (4*** S. vi.
493; vii. 20.) — The Newbury mentioned in thia
poem is a co^iflt town in M a&sach use tta, about thirty -
five miles north of Boston. The voyage undertaken
by Parson Avery could hnve been performed under
favourable circumstances in ^vq or six hours, but,
it wa« nece!!iajiry to double Cape Ann, a headland
projecting into the AtlaDtic about ten miles be-
yond the geni^ral line of the coast. The scene of
the shipwreck wo.^ a tuilo or two east of this bead-
Innd, when the voyage was about half accom-
plished, Marblehead is a seaport town, about
tifteen miles north of Boston^ and is so mimed
from its rocky eite, tbotigh its rocks are not marble
but sieoite. Newbury in Massachusetts was named
after Newbury ia Berkshire, in compliment t*3 the
Rev. Thomas Parker, its first pastor, wbo had
been a preacher at the latter place, Ncwbem^ in
North Carolina, is said to have been named by its
Swias settlers after the capital of their own
country, and is still frequently written ISevr Bern,
the final efeing £r©ne rally omitted,
E, W. will find in the Xew Engkmd Genealogical
Didiunary by Jiimes Savage, vol. i., art *' Avery,"
some account of Parson Avery and his family, and
in Josh n a Coffin's Hidonj of Newhimj the narra-
tive that suggested the ^' Swan Song.*^ Thc^e
works can be consulted at the British Museum.
J. M. B.
The incident upon which this poem is founded
occurred iu 16^15 otl' Cape Ann, Mass, A full
account of it may be found under the title of
"Antony Thacher's Shipwreck'* ia Alexander
Young's Chronicles of the Planttra of Massachu'
i^th, p. 483,
^Ir. Avery, shortly after his arrival in this
eotwtrr, wna invited" to become the paator at
Marblehead, a place between Cape Ann and
Bostou. He sailed from Ipswich, the town ad-
joininir Newbury, in a pinnace, which had ber^^
sent for him from Marblehead, On Augujjt IG th
ve^el was lost, and out of the twenty-three \
sons on board only two were saved — Mr. Thach^
and his wife. They landed upon a barren uXmi
which has since been known as Thacher's Island
and the Rock of Avery's Fall, mentioned in
poem, 13 called *^ Avery's Rock."
Mr. Avery was cousin to Mr. Thacher. Go
Winthrop, in his ]ournal, speaks of ^fr. Avery i
" a miniiiter in Wiltshire [Eap.] a godly tiuwul
Ilii* bflpti^mal name has been pven incorrectly l
John. The eailv records in Massachusetta gil
Jorieph, ' G. \V, TJ
New York.
'* The IlEWTyG OF the Lead " (4*** S. vii.Sfi
This famous old song is attributed to Pearce, I
the collection called the Miincal Cyclopedia^
James Wilson, published iu 1834 ; but I have
doubt that it was written by Charles Dibdin,
whom I find it assigned in the Book of Englii
Songsj published in 1851. It bears the characti
of th© many sea-songs of Bihdin. He died '
1814, and certainly I knew the song aeve
years before that date. 1 do not know tEd d
of Mr. Richard Scrafton Sharpens death ; but !
aides the songs of his mentioned bv Bu, DtlOK-3
*^ Poor Rose of Lucerne,'* published as the " Swii
Toy Girl," and the two others— he was, 1 believr
the author of " Tho Minute Gun at Sea," wlitfl
wii3 onco a great favourite, and which I ha^
heard Braham sing with great spirit and eff©(
The music waa composed by ^L P. King.
F, c. n ■
The music of this old sea-song is by Shield^
may he not have written the words also ? I mij
however, safely affirm that neither this song
the pastoral " Shepherds I have lost ray lov^
was written by uiy father (the late Richard Sci
toa Sharpe) : they are Ixith of too old a date.
beg to thank Dtt* DixoN for his very gratifji
notice of my father'a works. The paston
which he all1^d^5a (he will excuse my correctia
is entitled " The Wreath,'* the first line bebg
^^.Sbcphcrds^ tell me, have you seea my Flora pits
way ? "
A song on the same model, ** The Captive to 1
Bird," was also set to music about the same ti^
by Mazzinghi, but seems to be quite forgott(
while **Tbe Wreath" has a world-wide fm
perhaps owing to the perfect agreement of
words and music. F.
Ktrksantox (4"' S. vi. 387.)— In mv qad
this place was incorrectly stated to be in iFurti *
It is in Cumberland, between the rivers Irt
Mite, about thiee and a half miles from the i
4l*SwTlLFto.ia,7lO
KOTES AND QUERIES,
149
Cf rx (4^ S. vi. 417,551 ; vii. 57.)— The gun at
MarlboiToupli 3lill^ temp, Edw. I., ^&9 probably a
** gonne, a liirge barrel '* (see Chambttuii), and the
hooped otdnaivce migbt easily take the Dame at a
later ^tde, Wnlsingham diatinctlj snys that cun-
mm was a Fi*e«ch tenn. Gyu is nd ** a snare/'
but an enjniit? of war ; it is otill in use with ar-
tilicT^en and engioeera for a sort of abeara for
MAOKKNztB E. C, Walcott, B.D,, F.S.A.
Tmi DrDACTic Poetry of Italy (4**" S. m.
414 » 5ii7.) — There are few better authorities on
ItAHAQ literature than Mr. Green, by whom my
UKiiiirj ns to the earliest didactic poem in Italian
WW wiam*eiied iu the Inst volume of " T^T, & Q/'
«♦ 537. He assumes that the Acerba ofCecco
d*AAnriii^ a contemporary of Dante, and the Sfera
I Batij who died in 1436, may claim
r the Regola da piantare Mdarmici of
Du»:)it« I ir>. But this must depend upon the
^9X^m of the works referred to. Strictly ppeak-
b-- -"-^*^;7i^ which teaches in verfle is a didactic
p the term is usually confiued to a poem
v lies and illustrates a specific subject.
y verse we may take as an example
^ . . ^ s A rt ofpreser mng Ilealth^ one amoa pst
Is the Acet^ha^ then, of this description ?
•chi mentions it (vol. r. lib. ii. cap. *2, xviii.)
iLs tn^ating of many matters {pm artjomenii) in
rhT^i.^0, moral philosophy, and religion^ which
' ikflfiifn it to a different category ; and the
. nernaps, may be classed as descriptive
toow than didactic, I have not at present an
onortitDity of examining either of these works,
Some of your readers, who live nearer than a '
feai4rwl miles to the British Museum, may be
n ate, and I shall be glad to hear the
^ the poems in question are shown to
ic,Collenuccio will still be entitled
I of having written the^ftrsf didftc-
I* j»jrm in iianant W. M. T,
"Kra noc tocari debet,'* ETa (4*" S, vii. 96,)
^idi Martial's Epigravu^ book in. No. 58, line 51 ,
«1 Schneidwin, W. A. B. C.
U Caiucole (4^»» S. vii. 34 ) — In the last
^fitioci of the Didiimanf of the Spaniah Academy^
CkfiMo) is described as a mollusc of the size of a
iit in ati orbicular shell, open-mouthed, and in
^ form of B haff-moon,
*CQrftlitAVlE.i Fairt la caractdf souldiers to cast them*
df* into m rotmd or ring."
hti it not mean retiring backwards from the
f»i«iic« of rovalty, the body being bent in the
ma c*f a balf-woon ? . F. W. C,
nipbam Pftrk, SAY.
ThiT ii< n tprm of horsemanship: "the half-
-^eman makes either to the rich t
:/*> We may therefore infer that
as the nobles left the Duchess of Parma, they
made in token of reverence alternate bows to the
right and to the left, walking backwards till they
reached the door. F, C. H.
*' It's a par Cry to Loch Awe " (4*** S. vi,
505 ; vii, 42.)— Let me I'efer vour eorrespondenta
who have written on this subject to the Legend
of Monirost. The expression is used by one of
the Campbells, when Captain Dugald Dalgetty is
in the presence of the Marquis of Argyll, and ia
beginning to b^ afraid at the danger to which the
sacred person of an ambassador was likely to bo
exposed. The phrase there is given as •* It's a far
cry to Lochom, The passage will be found iu the
twelfth chapter. J bun Pickfori>, M.A.
Bolton Percy, near Tadcaster.
Ltdeies: *' Kttshworth's Historical Col-
lections'' (4**' S. vii. 42.) — I am very doubtful
whether the enterprise suggested by your corre-
spondent would receive adequate support. Some
years ago I projected a series of indexe^t, and actu-
ftUv completed (among others) the greater portion
of yiushwortb, bnt, though without desire for pe-
cuniary gain, I was unsuccessful in the endea-
vour to find a publisher. '^ No one,'* it was said,
*^ would waste print or paper over them ! '* Pub-
lication by subscription, however, might possibly
answer, I shoula bo happy to complete my
work, which, I may venture to say, is that of «
experienced and expert hand, and divide the co
of printing among as many subscribers tis were
forthcoming, provided they were numerous enough
to keep the price of copies within reasonable
Hmits. Tho, SATCHEtL,
H. M. Customs, Cliariog Cro«, W.C.
Key TO '^Le Gkand Cracs" (4^ S. vi. 387^!
516; vii. 44.)-.S. W. T, will find a key to Le
Grand Cyrus in the first volume of M. Victor
CoUfein^fl work La Society fnmqaise an jriiV Siide^
vol. i, p. 364. The first and second volumes of the
ponderous romance were published, not in 1050,
but in 1049. '^Acheves d'imprimer/* says the
royal privilege, "le 7 Janvier 1041).'^
GusiAVE Massoit.
Harrow on the Hill.
Weaver's Art (4^^ B. vii, 57.)— Gray I can
hardly assume unknown to R. P» Q. —
u Weave the warp iind wcAve ibu woof.
Tht winding-!ihe«t of Edward's race."
Vivien, in Tennyson's 2di/lk —
" pot forth the charm
Of woven paces and of waving handa,"
and Scott tells us —
*' Oh I what a tangled web we u>eave
When first we practist? to deceive '*j
but Shakspeare supplies many allusions to the
weaver^s art, such as in Afft UV// that Ends FFW/,
Act IV. Sc. 3, where one of the French lords aays,
** The web of oiir life ia oC il niinyled ^^(xaC^ \
150
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[I^S^VIL ^ji.l$,
Leontea refers to it ( Winier't TaU, A^t L Sc. 2) ;
and nnmeroufl instances miyht cro)cvd jour spaoPi
e«pooially if the spider wore enlisted in t lie ser-
vice* (See Merchant of Vtmett Act II L Sis. 2 j
Troilm and Ctemda, Act V, Sc, 2, &c.)
FaiLLLB Saktt (4"* S. vii. o<3.) — This paiot is
St. Jane or Joanna of Valois, who died in 1505,
She was bo repregented, holding up a crown in
hvt left hand, in a mural painting in Eaton Ghurcb,
near Norwich, She waa queen of Louis XIL
of France. She founded a religious order of the
Annunciation of the B. V. ^Mary, and took the
liahit of it herself, hut died the yejir foUowinff.
F. 0. H.
"The Propigal Soi?" (4*** S, yii. 50.) — 1
liave a set of woodcuts illuatrating the parable ;
they are black upon white| publiyhed by M. Den-
ton, Hospital GntPj West Smithfield, Ijondon, Jnn*
10, 1795 (I think that doacribed hj J* T. F» a
cop7 of the same work coloured). J* T. F. may
liAY© a sight of it. T. S. A."
Caxnon (4''' 8. vii. 68-)— If the Italian word
canoue or carmone ever meant **a bijr dogr/' it
appears t«i have lost that meaning by the Degin-
ninf^ of the aeventeenth century ; for in Florio' s
Neni World of WorfU (Lond. f011)it 13 not an
explained, though other renderings are given
beiidea " any cannon/' which is the first. Quo
rendering of cmina is " the l>ore or concavitie of a
piece/' In Minpheii*a S)}anvsh and English Dtc-
Utmary (Lond* 1591)) there is no allusion to the
word can maiming ** an ancient piece of ordnance."
A 5 ON,
Ben J, Cakbiku (4*^ S. vii. J)7, 130.)— Allow
jne to answer one of my own queations, Benjamin
Carier was the son of Anthony Carier, a learned
and devout preacher* Benjamin became Fellow
of C\ C C» Cambridge, chaplain to James 1., and
Fellow of Chelsea College. He joined tlie ( ■hiuvh
of Rome, and went to Lit^ge m Qerraany. He i
died before midsummer, 1014, (See Woods Ftisti
0.ioti. and Bohn a Loinidea.} J. M. Cowper,
May not *'R, C, Gent" be Eichard Carew,
who translated Huarta and part of To^io p
Geouge M. Grebn.
27, King WilliAm Street, Strand.
*'TnK AWIRITION OF THE LaJIB," ETC. (4*" S.
Ti. 38*'5, 550.) — Tlie following inscription, painted
on the frame of this importJint work, ia taken
from Mr. Maynard'a book TivcnUj Ycm^d of tlw
Arundel Socidfj : —
PiCTOB HUaHUTTg K KVCK* JIAJOR qVO SKMO RF.pCTtVa
Inckpit; poKDVsqvE JoUanueii autk sKCtrisuvs
Fratku pKRrEniT, Jv^iioci ryn pRKCK fretvs.
VbrsV sJvXta MaI Vo9 CoLLaCAt* aCta TVKitl +
(The painter Hubert Van Eyck, a greater was
never found, began * and hip second brother (John)
completed the work, at the instance of Judocus
I
m of
Ina]|^l
irenc6^
Vytts, On the Bih of May, in the v^-Rr 1
these pictures were completed). We
the inscriptions on the panels popre&t^ _
Annunciation/' and the legends on the ligurei of
the prophet* and sibyls.
I am very gratefill to F, C. II, for his vali
translation, W, Mabs:
Clarence (^4**" S. vi. 500,) — I cannot
L. B. C. any information about Willinm Clare;
nor do I know if John, Bastard of Clarence, mar-
ried or left issue. HERMEprrRiroB,
De BoHrx (4^'» S. vi. 501 ; vii. 24,)-L On •
cap of maintenance, a lion crowned (BoattiU'|
Heraldry, plat© bcvi.)
2. I cimnot ascertain.
3, I can offer A. F. H. a pedigi-ec of the fan
with full chronological details, if he wo aid like i
have it. In two or three generations the
alogy is almost inextricably confused, and
notices can be found on the rolls simply
matters worse. Does A. F. H. desire more
tailed "particulars " than are given in such woii
as l>iigdale*s Baronagi^f If he wishes for
pedigree, will he pleas© to let me know ?
HERMK^fTRrn
MS. .\rTOBTOGiiirnT of the N\
OF KnsT, Richard UL (4**' S. vi.
Edward Dering was right Mr. Tew will hjii
what he inquires about set forth in The Loji of
the Plmifftf/cfietSf an interesting historictl n«T»-
tiiro published by Smith & Elder in 1880. l! tw
by the ancestor of the present Earl of WincJiili»ft
that the *' person " therein named was omployed
to supei intend the works at Eastwell ^''^ '''*^
will find some notes of mine refeni
Lovel and to this mvsterious son of i.„ ..
in '' N. & Q." for November 13, I85S, ai
for January 1, 1850. I shiiU have much ]
in lending Mr. Tew the book in questf
addressing a line to me. S.
Httl stock, YcoAil, Somerset*
In Evans's Old Bathds, vol. iv. p. 21, ed. 1
Mr. Tjcw will find appended to a hallad
" Richard Plantagenet/' by Mr. Hull, nlmoat j
tho authentic informatton extant as to the oh*
of bis query. East well Park was then-
in the reign of Henry VI L — the prop
residence of Sir Edward Movie, not Dea
from him ilesceDde<l by an beires* to the I
in whom it is still vested. The Duke of ,
com has of late y^ars rented it from Uie 1
of the present Earl of WiuchiL^ea. A refen
to the story occurs in a MS* pedigree of
Lofties, who were seated at WestwelL, the I
joinion: parish, in the eamo reign: one of T
is gftid to have come from Yorkshire in charge i
Richard Plantagenet. A Richard '
named in the registers as having
\ lliete in 1550, Ho waa
4»&..Tn.Fu.ia,'7L]
NOTES A2iD QUEELES,
\£it
of
eotding^ to tlie MS., waa called after tlie king.
The name *' Iticbnrd" does not ngfnin occur in
the family, ^liich v!m ftftei*warda seated in Smeeth
perish, in the church of which are many of their
moniument*. Seo Uasteds Kvnt^ folio, 1700,
voL iii, p. 293, Fixz Riciiaej>.
In the year 1774 was puljliahed a 4 to pamphlet
of ir. and SO pajres^ with the follo'«ing' title,
/* ^ ^ f" ^ \* a Lrfjciuhirji Tale, Now
. Hull." It in a poem, with
ru f. i'-.vid (larrick, and some account
of the hero, who is repreaeated to have been a
aitund son of liichtird HI. Jonjr Wilson.
Sreerwort (4*'» S. Ti. 502 : vii. 25»)—
*• Shfire-irort. A i ' " ic dicta, quia
Batjnni'4 rx t « I ^ n : 4." — Skinner
(6tep.J|, KtymdiH^i ^ '..-/ , K^lX^suh vac.
iiDWARp Peacock.
Trrr- Tu , w ^ BooKB (4*" 8. \u ftomm ; Tii. la)
1 • di*ctis>in^ the matter of the
^ au?e 1 hold that it rather resta
V oLTto phow; if he can, that the ro-
c ' 'Ti is false. At preeent he has nf»t
c - 1 know. But I would caution
t ; t hia first a58€rtion with respect to
ijer waa that the date had been tara-
From the directness of the assertion,
would have dreamt that it waa made with-
^ ever having i^een the print. Now he haa
-11 [he print and tinda that guch a posiition is
rJ>iirH, hfr has f^tarted the tbeorj* of the print
than the printinjrj or perhaps* I should
tin the matter printed, which is, in
:i«»n, f^mte aa im tenable as his foi-mer as-
J. C.J.
'r dkOrlktox (4*^ 8. vii. I>f?.)— Mr. Henrt
«*s very positive denial of Adam de Orle-
1 1 eanoiirs must be founded upon sources
ion not commonly knoTMi to the
-torvi and therefore, as one altogether
In the Bubiect,** he will, I am sure,
^ un i>un'£^. me aa to direct me to them.
ExmuxD Tew, M*A.
Ptlchioj: RectcrtT, Aruadd.
'^IflKRUSALKUl MT HAPITE IIoME*' (4*** S. Vl*
' - ' ^ ^ "» : vi i , 4 1 . ) — T h e e \ ec ution of J o ii n lli »wlig
h ester has been incidentally named in con-
-^--^ ... with this subject Pr, Ketile is, I believe,
w erroT aa to the place where this inai tyr died.
rr-TT j^^^ gives an account of his death* on the
ed, but at Lancaster; and I understand
i\ Bone, who has a MS. copy of the ballad
hich Dr» Neale refers, that it a^rrees with
Cbn1lMi«'r*3 account in this reject ThewUs is
^' one e:xeeuted at Lancaster whose
^ ^rcm attributed to Mimchester, as may
^ -^Hf; by reference to a paper (»ntributed to the |
litt'litfuy {vM, X.) by the prei?ent writer,
la li?tj5 appeared —
Crjrill.,
U
"O Moth<?r, n<?ar Jffitaaleml T»i« Ohl Hymn, its
Origin and (renealop^^ Editt.»U by William C. Prime*"
New York, iivo, pp. ^2,—
which is thus noticed in Triihnei'a Liitt^my Meeord
(132):-
** To the lovers oP hytnTiolopy tltis will be an accept-
tihlt vohime: it contains old David l)ifckson/s veridon of
tbe well-known livmn, with vartouamore modem and car*
rent versions; and in llie Appendix the hymn of nilde-
bort, and an extract from the byrau of fiumonl de
Clngny."
WiLiiAJi E. A. Axon,
Joynson Street,' Strange ways.
Dit. Jom^soN'8 Watch (4^** S. vi, 27i5, 465; vii.
55/)— In answer to your correspondent on the
above subject, in Bos^'ell^s Lt/e of Jolmsanj toI. li*
p. .%, I find the following : —
"At thb time I observed upon tbe dial-plate of his
watch • a short Greek inscription, taken from the New
Testament. Nt^ y^p tpx^rm^ being the first word* of onr
Saviour's solemn admooition to the itjiprox^ement of that
timu whit^h Is allowed us to prepare for eternity : *Tho
night ranieth when no man can work.' Jle yome time
aftcrwardA laid a»ide thif« dial-plate ; and when I asked
him tbe reason, Jio said, * It miLrht do vt^r}- w*"!! upon a
doek which a man kecpi ii ' ' : : : Live it
npon hu watth which he i, and
wJiJoh h often looked at by ' i ^ ^ ' "n-*d va
u:itiuitatious/ "
Mr. Steevens is now poesesecd of the dial-plate
inscribed as above. ChaBI^es Hi^tton.
Nottingbann
CoKTiviAL 8o3ffGS (4*'' S. vi, passim ; vii. 58,)
One of the best 1 ever heard was produced at the
Adelphi Theatre about forty years ago. Tho
music was composed by ^larschner the German ;
the words I forget, but the idea was drinking to
the four aeasoni^. Can Mr. LHxon help me to the
words P Jaji:^ Gilbebx.
61, Hill Street, Peckham. S.E»
Tost Prophecies (4«* S. \ i* 370, Vm, H^S ; tiL
42.) — The lines, or string" of prophecies alluded to
by L. C. D., were in Fi^nch, in which lanpriiage I
first saw them, I believe, in 1848, They raa
thus : —
"Je no youdrais pas etra rtd en 1848.
Je ne vondrals jins etrc prftreeo 1840.
Jo ne voudrain pas etre »ildat en IftiW.
Jc voiidrais etro tout ce que vous votidrea €»(/&«•
lievt) 1851.
Of the laat date, I am not sure : but the whole
thing; was conspictiously worthless as a prophecy,
and clumsy as a fabrication.^BB?*^* ^' ^^ H*
I copied from a newspaper (I tbJnk in 1848,,
from a local one in Taunton, where I then resided}
the foUowinj^: —
• Sir John Hawkins says lb»t this waloli was the
linit Johnson ev<*r pos(«es»ed, It was made for him by
Mod^e and Dutton in I7fi8. They were celel>ratiMi
watchmakerM of the laH c-coTury. n)2 ' :' ' p. Mtuatod
at the left comer of Hind Court, v. ■ in Fleet
Street to underjjo the awe^pirvg, otA
which it escaped up to llw y^ax \^^,— 1t.\>*
152
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*fc S. VII. Feb. 18,
**The following prophecy baa loiig been eurreot m Gw-
uamj :■ —
"1 would not be a kinif in 184S.
I would not be a soldter In 1849.
I would not be a fcrave^li^icrer in I8ij0»
Bat I would be whatever you please in 1851/'
Bid any of jour r^^adi^ra ever meet with tli«
following? I copy it from the Ostcentrf/ Herald of
1821 ;—
** France rMpected,
Spain infc^cted,
Sweden npplected,
Pras:ti« d'jected,
MiHoliipf projc?ct«d,
Turkey detected,
Gre€("e unprotflcted*
KuHsi.i suspected,
Mediation rejected,
Austria connected^
It*ly disaffected.
Englaad expected
To see all corrected/*
A.R.
Doim OR Bub (4'" S. tL /SOO; vii. 2fJ.)— All
the staged or post towns from Dart ford to Dover
during the Roomn tlomination had Utir m a pre-
fix, thus:— Burobr© vis (Kochester*), Durolenum
(Milton next Sittinghoume), DuroTernuuit (Can-
terbury th '^^^ prefix being the Celtic word for
water. A, J* DirSKiN.
44, Bessborough Gardens^ S. Bolgravia.
Family of Jennour (4*^ S. vii. 55.) — Ma.
CHUficn 13 doubtless aware that the pedij?ree of
Jemaoitr of Essex is given in the Ilarleian MS.
No* 1187 (in the British Museum), which con-
tains the Visitation of Essex in 1558.
H. Jenxeb-Fust^ JtJKR,
*' God kadb Ma^/^ etc, (A}^ S. vi. .'345, 420
487; TiL 4L)^In reply to your correspondent
F. S*, I would refer him to Tfw Loimlah Magn-
auie, Toh i. p. 512. (A. Foster, Kirk by Lonedale,
1620), for a few remarks on the lines in question.
As this magazine is now Ytty acarce, perhaps you
will kindly allow apace for a short quotation from
an article on *^ Rustic Poets*"
" John Oldland was an inhabitant of Crosthwait«, and
A member of the Sodcty of Fricnda. He existed about
tli« beginning of the ik'^t centtirv- Ili* propensity to
rkffmintf waa euch, that many of iiis rhtftnet, m ihev arc
proTiaciAlly calleti, are still repeated by the older inha-
hitanta of the neighbourhood. The smartest of Jobu'a
rhjftna was made on the occasion of hi a being put to
irittbU (aa it i9 properltf tonned In the provincial dialect)
hy A lawyer for some debt whicb be bad incurred at
* In the BaxoEi period Btirobrevi«f waa chitiged to
Re (river) Ceasteh (castle), the €ti»tk hy the Biver.
f The change from Durovernum was to ita pre-Komzin
name^ Me City of the Cantit^ even rs Paris returoed from
its Roman appellation of Lutetia to the City nfthe PatigiL
X When I was ajwhoolboy the traiiBlation of this namo
wai, in the Eton Latin Grammar, gi\ en as *' DuVHr/' I
do not know whether thiA curious error is still per-
4
tJlveraton — a proof tbat not only poeta, bnt all who
meddle with rhyme, are poor. John repeated with
emphasis —
"God mead meni
And men mead money ;
God mead bees*
An' bees mead honey ;
But the D— I mead Inwyera an'tomiea.
And pleac'd 'em at U 'aton and Dotan i* Fomeat.
J, P. MoBSiau
17 Sntlon Street, Liverpool
Mahinf, Rose (4»*» S, vi. 436, 484; vii, 46.) —
In default of a ren/ minute investigation of the H
Fleetwood rose, I possibly may have ascribed ta H
it a wrong specific name in that of spinmMma, ■
Yet, with all deference to A MuRlTHlAN, I think ■
I have not done %o\ which opinion, I venture to ™
imagine, is strengthened by certain evidence I here
beg permission to adduce.
H. C. Watson, in The Xmv Bottmidi Gmde, p.
255, saya from hia own personal knowledge " tiiat
Jloxa gpmosiaxima grows plentifully on the sand-
hills on the Cheshire coast." And T. B. Hall, in
the Flora of Luerpoolj states ** that the Rc^m
^pinonissima grows abundantly on the aand*hil]a
both on the Lancashire and Cheshire shores of the
Mersejr.'^ I have seen the plant growing in the
situations named above, and always couai^ered it
to be identical with the one that grows in tmk
profusion in the neighbourhood of Fleetwood* Sr
J. E. Smith, in his description of Ettm rulwQa^ in
8owerby's EngtUh Botamj, says " that it is wcU
distinguished from M. Bpimmamma by its equal
prickles and oUong (not round) crimson penduloiis
fruit/' The same author's description of the JZ.
spifWsiMtmn is, *' that its fruit is erect, globuUtTf
quite smooth, of a dark-ied purple colour, chan^
ing when ripe to black,^*
In reply to a query of mine on the subject,
have a letter before me from a lady who oooej
resided at Fleetwood (and who knew well the
beautiful little rose in question), in which she
says ** that the rose hnd creamy white petals, aoi^
that its Mpf or fruit, when ripe is quite black and
rmmdf scarcely diatinguis?hable from a large hlaclt
curranV I shall have pleasure in forwarding
Mr. Edwix Lees a specimen of the plant when it
is in flower. Jambs Peabson.
Hilnrow, near Hocbdale.
^ijifetlaiiciiuif*
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
I
SiUrpiria de Pn^funHin ; ht'ing the Sequel to the Canfeiimf
iff an English Opium EttUr. and other J/i*<^/Mi«»*'J j
Wriim^B.^ By Tliomaa de Quinccy. (A. A C. Black.) I
The admirers of that profound and original thinkeTt ^
Thomas de Quincey* ouf^ht to bo very grateful to Mesw*- j
* Ulvenloa aud Dalton itt Fnmeas.
41»3lTII. Feb, 18,'TI.}
NOTES AND QUERIES.
153
A< h Cw Bltek for thu sapplemental volnme of bis writ*
iiiglii* which fumu! the seventeenth of their colteeted e<M-
twn. It eontAiQii, as fiir as the publlslicrs Ate awAre, the
rcmaini^ ' V altered writing'? — a Urge portion Mni;
toqoire original ptiljU^hers, Messrs, Ho^^ d-
Sod, an-' nl the bcJiefit of the author** nsvi*ion.
The refiiiiiiiiier, iaduriinjc the ** Notes from the Pocket-
bonk of an English Opium Eater," and the *' Hbtorico-
CriUc^ loqniiT into the Origin of the Kovicrucians and
FreemaiOQ^," have been reprhited from the old lAmdon
Mapaxm^f where thev oritpnallv appeared tii<le by s^ide
with the delightful ^sAays by ^titi. In reprinting thiii
latter pa]^«er, Me-**rs, Black have done ^lood service to
historical tratb, and we recommend its e^ircTul pemsal to
lU who dcsiT* U> know what j[^round*t thrr*.* .nrv: fitr believ-
ij)^ the remote antiquity claimed by i''rccma.-»on» for that
isTst^iotis organii»ation.
Tkf W*iVfrlfy Xovtii. 5v Sir Walter Scot t^ Bart. Ccn-
t€mnry iCditian. VoL XJV. (A. & C Ulttck.)
We bnvp T^iero, in The Fnrtuna ftf Nigrl„ Sir Walter's
n 'the Briti-«h Solomon. And his graphic
», II life in Whitefriur* ; and the volume,
Wk'- ivn ^i.l^u^^.^-:^^a% ia made more uaefnl hy Glos^iry and
DtArftt'w m^Birnted 1fo*mt of Commnnn and the Jtdicmt
Bmfh^ 181 1. Cttmftiird and edited b^ Robert Henry
Mair. Pfr»f>na}ly revi»*d hif the yiembcr$ «f Purlm-
fmmt ami the Jitd<ji'», (Dean & Son.)
Of tbi«« wplUiim^l va1«m« (which is marked by a
] ' • ' i.-f, namely, en >cruvinj^3 of
t .<, cities and boroughs rc-
I 'n.t)» it may fltilht^e to my
I every rL'^ficct a Ultin^ as it is almovst iin
cwmpunion to Dtbrttf§ Peerage nnd De-
Lrrtt i Liiifctitijc and KniffhUufr^ lately nuttced by us
wiUi dcr*er\cd <'<nnmetidatioii.
Tkt Ilittnrtf of the Parochial C/ufpriry of Ginntntttflh^ in
titf tWrt/'/ rt/ Im Hi aster, Bjf Uen ry Fishwiuk, ^MI S.
'^ ■ Manchester.)
Iry ofifafmnar^h, which was formerly pnrt
,1 K'lit i«*>.in Ainonndemes<f, and includetl
!4rg{t4 WhitLingham, and News-
<t*' n^ to lind two ^eiillemco who
^ history and the hiT^tory of
^: ii I L i. OS to devote conaidernMii
iirciiul hiL ., , uujj of mnterials for a work
upyiB the subject. ih<! first of these is Mr* Kiehard Cmtk-
Mi. a r«:9ident th'-r**. wh" hnvm.^ I»eepi prevented (rum
WTjtn^ int;. ' ' ■ ash the result r.f
WiUbour.^. them to Mrtjor
Fuhifick, VI L _, . li -ieariih of g^im-
*i4gi«flJI inlnrmation "Msmc years iiinc«. The result is a
vditin«i v<»fc **r«'ilitflble to tbe induf^fj' And intellip^nce of
^\'^ n^ — one of etiUHidenible in-
*<»»t i*[uariCiS and *.f course «f
•p*:3i- ff at all counei*li'd with the
<*apeiry of Uoobfmrgb.
Kew Dutch PrntmucAL. — Under the titk' of Onzc
^^ ("Our (^vcnlury ")« a new ftjrtnightly junrnal hai^
yo Khirtccl at Am**t*'injf»TTi under the editorship uf Jlr,
«- Ticdemiio, a n to whom the readers of
* A, 4 Q." hare E«tly indebtwL In addition
to njUf^-jl.iiiioLit. biographical, nnd political
^''^ -.^md that each number should oontJiin :
* f^" ! r<*view (on European And American
^^^' .il political review (on Dutch
L_a_ Si^ t::hroni' It* (for iru-identiil
books on history, or politics, &o.); and lastlr, a bibUo-
j^'rnphv, com prie*ing"— reviews of recent publications *if
historical or political ititerest; a list of ail new books
publiMhe^l in ttie world, arranged Alphat>eticaUy; a a
marj^of the contents of various periodicals, which an
cither entirely devote*! to hi^itoni- aod politicks or wh''
contain articles of historical or political interest.
AuGUstTus Appleoath. — The death at Dartford, at
the age of ei;i;hty-fotir, of Mr. Apple^ath is announcw
He was the orij^inator of some important improvementL
in the art of printifTg, "the inventor," aays the PallMnH^
Gaxette, *• of the composition-ball and com position -ru I ler»
and afterwftrds of the oteam printing- press. For his
invention of lank-notes that could not be forpjed ho ro-
eeived from the tmnk Authorities IK,000/. He also in-
vented A machine for printing six colours at once. The
patent for the nteam-prpj4!> was in the joint nameii of
Cowper nnd Applff^ath. The lirst book printed by steam
was Watertnn'.s U'tinderit^fS, Mr, Applegath subsequently
e«.tiiMi«hrd great silk and print wurks at Cravford and
Dart ford,"
Tiiit DrnrtcTC*tti»nir of thk National Gallkry,^ —
It in rep>rte«l that Mr. Boxall, R.A., wbose term of otOce
expires «hoTtly, will not be likely to yield to the wi^ilics
of the Trustees that he fthould resume the post he hat
held so much to the public advantage.
OxFORr>,— The vnlual4e theological and general library
heloniJtini; to the late He v. Df. Plumptre, Master of Uni-
verjity College, )?* announced for aale at the CUrendoa
Hotel, on Thursday and Friilay next week.
CAMontpGi:. — Tha Library Syndicate have issued a
lengthy repnrt with reference to the new edition of the
I'niversity Ordlnatitmea (the old one being incomplete)
which they have prepared. There are diHcrepanciei be-
twccfi thu nile^ now published by the authority of the
Syudicnie and tho*e which have been from time' to time
couiirmcd by the Senate.
PitoFEiSsnR LtGHTFTMiT, — No Small ftmonut of sntis-
faclion will be felt by the public wbeti Ihey are infonne^i
that the Ilulsean FrofeASor of Divinity, so well known
for his work on. the Ualatians ^sc, has hccti nominated
hy Mr. Olad^itone to the vacant canoim' at St. Pttal's.
Dr. Lijxhtfoot's recent noble benefactions to the Univer-
sity of Cambridge wtU be fresh in Che Riiuds of our
readers.
St. ANT>aEW*s.— The Senattts Acadetnicus of the Uni-
versity liAve just conferred the degree of LL.D. oa the
Deitn of Westminster.
Tt!B CoxontssioNAL LmtiARY.^This library con-
tains n*M,Gfi8 bound volumes, and ;M,iMHJ parupUh'Lx.
Under the ttpcralion o( tlio new cop_v right law, I he hbrary
received during the pa^t year 271 books, 314t> pamphtcts
and periodica^ 1^891 musicTl camfw>?itJon«, 1175 engrav-
ings, photoifraplH, and chroraos, 142i> prioL^ 146 maps
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COKTENTS,-N« 165.
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UriHi b A La^rdr^Old Bandowu Ca»lli5, iMle of Wi«^ht —
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Sam on Boofki. Ac.
CRYrTOGRAPHY.
A r — '^ — ^^T'l^, or, fts it h not iinfreq^uently
terme , itj a m^^isajrc* (written or tele-
«»jWa .1. LM- ' ^^'^ " '"' H5) of Tphich the luean-
1fi| b ttfnd<?iwi 1 '>le to all imftcqiiftinted
wnh th^ rtil « ' 1 its construction. These
ittU«,jpnv?i '0 bv the parties corre-
ipoiubnff li ^ I, , to tlie Bulrstitution of
troibolt for lettera : sometimes also, but lesa
fJr^Tientlv. ti> n ev^trrtif^lie tnispkcement of the
' IS in ft word. They
\' ,
i tiudiu^ out tlie rule by an ana-
»ii>n of the cipher is called deet-
tneHoiog thtis obtained, the
! ion is <>ft*3n a ditficult, if not
ne, uDd has occaaionfllly engaged the
r^rr profound thinkers.
nmunication, somewhat
r. appeiir to have been
1 \^ry mnv unicB. The HcvtAla of the
iM been otten considered as fonuing^ an
;« ^10 .1. ,x-„ I ...... f During the last
^ improved systems
J . ntl J employed both
i importance and m the more
L", In our day cipher lends its
^ to politiceij war, commerce, love, fmd even.
occamonally, io crime. A mystic line in a column'
ofnewapaper advertisement^^ to the iminitiatedy
a seneelesd jumble of marks and letters — ninj
often convey the message of a lover to hia raiatre^aj
or it may sometimes be the friendly caution from
I a tliief to his *' pal.'* During the civil wars at the
I begittning of the seventeentn century, cipher dia
' patches wore so much in vogue that each arraj
I seems to have employed experts for the evolution
I of any it might capture from the other fide. Of
those men who mode deciphering a study and pro-
fppfcion pro tem.r perhaps the most remorkftble waa
Wiillis, the leading mathematician of his time.
It is, indeed, chiefly in war, when communica-
tions between jcr^nerals of division and others
i must pass through an enemy*a country, that cipher
assumes its greatest importance, for the messnges
in many cases can be trusted in no other form*
Written in cipher they conceal from the enemy,
should he intercept them, information and ordeia
respecting future operations, on the carrying out
of which possibly the fate of a campaign depends.
Of course this is supposing him unable to evolve
their meaning.
Having said thus mtich respectsng the uses to
which cipher mny be applied, I proceed to de-
scrihe very briefly several systems more or less
intricate.
In devising rules for the construction of a jn^-
imge, the following conditions ought to be attended
to: —
1. Tlie cipher produced must be sufliciently
intricate as to render its evolution under all pro*
hahlv circumstances hardly possible. Theoreticrdly
no nn:iinary cryptograph of more than a cert 1 in
length ought, porhiips, to be considered quite proof
against unravelmeut when submitted to a clever
e^cport — aUiawing him ^mlimited time; but prac-
tically, when time Is an object, many are so.
2. 'The rules must be concise and easily remcm*
bered,
3, They ought to be of such a nature that their
application both directly to the construction and
invensely to the rendmg of a cipher shall be
simple and expeditious processes. It would be
absurd were a general on the field of battle to
I receive a dispatch rcf^itiring an hour for its in-
terpretation. Circumstances ought to guide us in
our choice of a rule. Where secrecy is all-essen-
tialt and time of little moment, this last condition
may therefore be somewhat ignored.
We will now take the fallowing as examples
of very easy cipher : —
(1) . . . . Uif bcerfft zpv BJTVJsf jt fjKiu Mfx TvJtffk,
The meaning of which is —
i ** The addrefta you require la eight New Street."
Here the rule has been to substitute as a symbol
for any particular letter the next to it in the
' alphabet: b has been written ioj n, /for i\ uud
I 00 OD,
, (2) Vop€ tJhc Idbtnc/UpL Jfmhi MoAfm tdduJS
mi^ fc efitMnidi, In eiAmfile (S) tJi« lattm
ar# trmboiifled exutilj u m (1) ; bat ia addition
Co iJiifli eAch word t« mx^tU'A and mtut be read
badcwBrdi. TbU the reader can decipher for
hustell
Frequcntlj, however, letten an? repluced by
otben wbk£ bATe no apparent alphabetical con-
Decttoo with them. The SMierU Poch'tbook, hj
CoJooel Wolielej, describes an admirable method
of thM kind, in which the required aubdtitutions
may be at once foond on reference to a diagram*
The construction of the dingram h readily Uamt
and remembered bj all interested in cipher corre-
apondence, but this in lueleas in anj particular
€tm without a knowledge of the key, which is a
word iecretly agreed upon by the writer and per-
aoo addreaied* Of course, marks of any kind may
be uaed aa lymbola, but letters ^or ligurea are
uaually employed.
Where a cipher ia lonf^ enough to include a cer-
tain proportion of the letters moat commonly in
uae, or, more correctly speaking, of their ajmbolical
O'ioivaleiitfl (ftiipposmg each letter to have but
line, and the language to be known ), its evolution
ia genernH^ possible by attending to the following
ronaideratiuna as ^ven for the English language
in th« Emyclopo'dm Britannica : — -
1, Letters or symbols of most frequent occur-
rence may be set down as moaning vowela. Of
theie, e ia the most numerous^ u the hoj&t so. 3.
Vowels most common together are, ac and on.
3. Con»unant» most frequent at the end of words
aret first, t; next to tbat, r and L 4 When a
character appears double, it is generally/,/, s, or
Toweis«anda, B, The letter preceding or fol-
lowing two similar characters is either a vowel or
/, m, Hf or r, 6, In deciphering begin with words
of one letter; they will be «, », o, or ^% 7, Then
take those of two letters one of which will be a
vowel. The mo.*t frequent in use are : t&j ^ k/^
tf/f on, or. nOj <w, aif i/", in, it, he, rtiCf wiy, *«, ire,
tf 171. 8. In words of three letters, mostly two are
consonants. The most freoueiit are : ike, and, not,
butf yeif for^ tho\ how, r%, alt, i/ou, duAf, i>, hef-^
nttrf whof j/i«y, caUf did^ wn^t are, hm^ had^ H, &nc^
two, siz, ioif &c., some of which, and wordij of
two letters, are found in every sentence. 9. Most
common words of four letters : this^ that, ihen^ ihm^
wUhf whenf/rom^ herefmrne, mod, nonef thrtf^them^
whom^ mme, your, self^ mud, icUl, hme, fc^m, tvcre^
fotitf Jivet nitie, kc, 10. Of five letters ; their,
these, those, which, wfm-c^ while, since, there, shaii,
mighty could, iimuld, oit^htf three, seven, eif/ht^ &c.
IL Words of two or more syllables frequently
begin with double consonants or with a prt*posi-
tion: i.e.f a vowel joined with one or more con-
sonants. Most common doubk* conaonant«: hi, br,
^^fj^frf ^'t 9^} M> Ph P^f ^^> ^\ ^T ^, th, tr, wh,
wtf ia Most comniou prepositions: €om^ con^
dtf diif ex^ im, m, M, nitk, ptTf pre, pro, n, mb,
MV •Mf &c 13. Double cooaonanta at the end of
A long word are moat frequently : ck, id^ If, ma,
nd, np, rlf rm, rp, rt, mn^ «<, .rf, &c» Afoet cooiinoa
terminations: e^ed^m^ #r, e$^ rt, ing, /jr, nm^ mm,
titm^ a^^ megf mej^,full, leu, ntm^ &c
C>n prineiplea analogous to these, ciphers written
in other langnagea may (in the majority of cases)
be evolved.
Many ciphers are rendered more puxriing (hu
they otherwise would be by having the wordi
joined together as though the whole formed one
word, and furthermore by the omiasion of short
words such as the, and, kc^, the abeence of which
does not destroy the true sense. The use of
capitals may also be dtspeufed with.
But to come to more abstniae ajstems. If,
instead of always representing the aame letter bjr
one symbol, we have setvra/, and employ one or
other of them ad libitum^ the evolution (without
the help of a key) becomes extremely difli^ 'v '
not practically impossible. The following n;
to me a sufficiently easy method of carryiii- u ..
this principle; Some easily remembered sentence
containing every letter of the alphabet, and in
which the most common ones are aereiml tiiaw
repeatetl, is chosen for a key ; the words ari? 1' t-
tered in alphabetical rotation^ and the lerr
each word numbered from the beginning!
word. Suppose, for instance, we take for oar isy
the followmg sentence, which fuliils the^e con-
ditions —
" (o) probity, Qj) kindness (i?) of (rf) manner,
{e) intelligence, (/) and (^} zeal (A) for (i) tH.t
f/) service, {k) aie (0 qualitiee (m) whichmi
justly (o) excite (/i) admiiation,"
To each word an iwrfpj- letter is affixed, ai IK*
reader will observe* The numbering of the lnUrr*
ia not shown — it can be readily obtainrd r
counting. As an aid both in remembering nud
applying the key, the initial letters of its wordi,
with" their rnrfia-letters below each, may bck«pl
in a written form always at hand. Thus —
PKOMI AZFTSA Q WJEA
a b c d e f g h i j k I m n o p
Now, in constructing a cipher* the symbol to be
used for a letter is obtained wherever we find
that letter in the key, and is formed of the uura-
ber of the letter in the word containing it attwhcd
to the index-letter of that word. As an illiutn-
tion, suppose we bad to cipher '* gun,** we hsre
but one g, which is the 8tn letter in the word
** intelligence/' whose index- letter is e. For ff w»
therefore write e8. Fori* :we have two syn! -
y'li,, 12 and n2, either of which we may en ,
and for n eight, viz., bl, b5, rf3, rf4, «4, elU,/
plO, One fonn of cipher for ** gun *' is, therefor
e8, n2, d3. Where capitals occur we may
capital index- letters.
i
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157
An Bjmljsb of our kej will at once giire an idea
of its power.
IMtcTR. Symbols. , Letters. SymlH^ls.
l.
U-n,n2.
r-ji.
X—o2.
£-^H«et\r4. f9,el3,^ Ice.
i^ab^ b% #1, «7./5, i5, &e.
I^t U9 SOW apply tbU kej to tlie didpatch —
•* The enemy has destroyed bridge over E. at N»
F«frcea to oppose him must be sent via North em
In cipber it runs tbu% at least tkia ia one form
of conatruetioQ : —
/ mmi^idUl i2i£>lf7 fSeihBaedQa'^fi^i^p2
Mk^a5MtBm cy4€^J^ 'A2. fleS Bb.
C2A2i3x»4c4i8 <s3a3 c\a\a\mj\m {2b2p^
ii^lil a4d5 meidPiB jAelfl
D4«3«2eSm2eOii6</4 m^Zeltf^,
Obierve that where the aamo word occurs both
io the key and in the diapatcb we may conveni-
eaUj symbolize it by the index-letter alone. In
the above /is put for ** the *'— a word which might,
howerer, have been omitted.
Here ia another example of the system which
th« reader may easily decipher*
iH. 05*/4A2, a2f2A ^%2y*6. tfiqla^
l.2a4«3tf6/li4«7iB %^^ oM2j^Me\hi
k BL
The key consists in the absurd sentence—
*' Doctor John Quack, being extremely in want
patients, resolved to make some by tumtng
Vw-fightor" ; whichi it we take only the initinl
kttsrs, may he abbreviated in a form useful for
nferenee, as in the last case.
DJQBEIWOFMTMSBTPF
a b e d e f ff h i J k i m n o p q
ibiother plan of cipher, which^ if too elabonite
h ordinary purpoaea^ might, I think, some-
itQ«i be employed with advantage for short
Utiangea of great importance, conjiists in repre-
le&tiag letters by numtera. The number si<riiify-
iBg a certain letter is not, however, a constant
|iuatity, but one depending on others, some of
»Wh Yarv. It may depend, for instance: (1)
ootbo poBition the letter holds in a word j (2) on
tint of the word in a sentence, as well as (3) on
IW own tilphibetical valne^ i.e. the number it
(pv... __ i_ the alphabet counted from the begtn-
Utiousbip tbe'»e several quantities have
t ,,lq <ujvriiier being detined by a simple equation.
To make the system perfectly intelligible, sup-
pose Pto denote the alpnabetical value of a letter
whose symbol is A'; a the number of the letter in
a word, and 6 that of the word in the sentence —
each sentence being worked out independently of
those which precede it. The values of P for the
whole alphabet are here shown: —
ABODE FGHIJK L M N O
1 2 3 4 5 0 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
PQMSTTrVJFXrZ
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 28
Almost any simple equation of some such form
as the following will do ; —
{l)/i'=P + ll-a . , orP=T-f-«-ll
(2) j^=P4-7 + &-« . orP=x + a-(7-f5)
(3)jr = P^2(6 + 10)-2rtorP=x + 2a^2(6 + 10)
&c., &c
The message to be ciphered is first written out,
and in calculating the values of .r we count those
of a and b for each letter as we proceed, and place
them in the equation. Solved for P (as shown on
the left), the equation gives us the key to be em-
ployed in the evolution. In designing an equa-
tion eome moderately easy form is best, as the
multiplication of high numbers involves a needless
wflste of time. Forms producing fmctional values
of the symbol ought also to be avoided, and it
were as well to choose one not likely to give
negative ones* This ma}'- be managed by remem-
bering that P varies from 1 to 26 ; a ia rnrely
more than 12, and h than 20 — a sentence being
taken as the collection of words between two
periods. In this kind of cryptograph the symbols
must be separated by commas to prevent possible
confusion, and a dash or cross inserted between
every word.
As an example, we will apply equation (1) to
the dispatch—*
*' Attack at four to-morrow morning/*
The cipher is^
1 1 ,29,28,8,9,1 t5-.l 1,29^1 6,24,29,25-30,24,2 1,
22,24,23,19,26-23,24,26,21,15,19,11.
The message^
" The enemy has thirty thousand men and one
hundred guns.''
— copstructed on equation (2), is as follows : — »
27,14.10—13,21,11.18,29—17,9,26—30,17,17,
3»%26;W — 31,18,24,29,20,749,8 ^25,10.24 —
14,26,15-29,27,17 — 23,35,27,16,29,15,13 —
23,36,28,32.
Let the reader unravel the following by means
of equation (3) :■ —
28,19,32,21-42,28,33-20,27,21,36.21,32.
J. R. C.
t
ANOTHER msn OP THE WAR.
Hie following song^, wliicli has a wide circula-
tion in Piu-is, cli^^lly in Belleville, the White-
chnpel of the capital of France, is exceedingly
clever, ftnd illu^tratee what wna stilted in the
politicfll papers rekting to the w^^Hcnt feelings of
the French people towards Kn|;limd. Besides
that, such poetry is always interesting, and muet
be preserved m a part of general history. Aa a
modern mithor haa justly remarked : —
" Tlicsro witty and popular effiiAions lijijhten for the
hour the pressure of tyrannical power, and soothe the
feeliiJ!:^* of the p<»'^pfo when under the influence of puMic
cxcit*f»ment," — TViti fUtttrif ttf Political Literature frttm
the EariieU Ttmi^H, vol ti. ch. iu. By Robert Bhickey,
London, 1855. 2 voU 8vo,
Deux cotillons sont h Potsdam,
L'un dit : ^* Mein (n>tt ! '' raiitre '^ G— I
Appelez le roi de Baviere ;
II eet en has qui hoit la Vi&re."
— " Anne, mon fr&re, c*est ton tour.
Orimpe au so turn et da cette tour»
Et divnoui, aoua peine de aclilaguo,
Tout CO que tu verraa, aana blague."
Le havard-oie a r^pondu : *
** On salt que je ine auis fendu^
Tollement pour lo roi Guillaume,
Que j'ai compromis mon ro^raume.
" Je youa le dis sans calembourg,
Pour Irt t*trne^ de Brandebourg,
II n^est choBo que je iie faise
A tin de m^riter ma prace.'*
— " Eh, de la tour !♦ Oh^, Lambert !*
Quo vois-tu ? " — ** Je vois Wtirtemberg
Et le Saxon ivres de rage,
Qui se repaisaent de carnage.
" Dans le sang ils vont trchucliant,
Et, ce qui nVst pas moina touchant,
Je vois les anciens a. Ver^aille,
Le verre en main, qui font ripaille,
" C'eat le grand-due de Mecklenbour^,
Avec ce comte d^Eulenbourg,
Qtil, a'dtant rempli la besace,'
Baigna, pour lire, un coq d' Alsace.'^
1 The talkative goose \ pronoimoed aa BaBoroU^ Bava-
rifls.
■ I did mr ntmoat,
* TVmr, hou-so.
^ An imitation of the caU of stonc-moioos.
* A viilpar by- word,
* The belly.
t Some years uffo, the «on of Graf von Eulcnbnrg,
belni: in liquor, kiUed a poor inoffensive Frfnch aw*!?. Tlio
tnnrtlercr was nn officer in the Pru'wifln arniVt om\, if my
recollections serve me well, hifl father wii» Iho minister of
n^ftr, HAvin^ been Ined by a court-martial, tbt* ^alknt
urarrior wa6 leniently dcjilt withi the judges con^idcnog
Ihtt case ju a kind o? druaken brawl between a butcher
" Reine-impdnittiee Augusta,
Ton vj»nix pochard de man t'a-
T-il fait 8a voir par t^l^apbe
Combien il a ttlllS dV«ii daffef^
" 11 a*abreuve de rmsinS^^
Et n*a jamais moins l6?in^;
Pour le mitonuer da vantage^
11 fait bruler ville et village^
'* ^leia Herr le comte dje Biamardf,
Qui aavoure le mAaae marc»
J tire qui! n'est rien qui I'^^ale,
Et soir et matin B*en r6gale.
'* Quand, sani* pour d'etre bafoit^«
Guillaume dit : * Dieu soit lou<S I '
John Bull, 6cuyer, de peur bUntd,
K^pond : ' Noi boutique* de miita»t * *'
Athcnictim Club, Poll Mall. Feb. 20. 1871.
P, A. L. OP " N, & Q;'— If yoiii rained (
apondent should see this, allow me to eTpre« \
hope that the capitulation of Paris wUl enable i
again to prolit by his ever-ready store of infex
tion, His lant coniniunication to your pages beaff '
the date of Roptemlver 24, 1870; and his delight
on seeipg ^^ N. & Q/^ again, aftor ao long as la^
lerval, can only be equalled by ours wheo
again recognise lib pleasant answeia to our mulli
farious inquiries. BiL P
"CiiATKArx EX E.<iPAGKE." — Among the *^I
trea spirilm-lha" of S. Fran^ob de Sales occiii
fancy, the first mention of tbis familiar pbn
which, us an equivalent for our own 4dioa
" cnsLles in the air," has since tlieu becoma \
Ycrliial The $«ubjoined pnaaage I take from tbo
IH 13 Paii5 edition of the Q^ttvres choigiee de *Sl
Franrois d^ Suks^ torn, premier, p. 2B5. la t^Ii
imrticukr epistle, the Bishop of Geneva,,
tlouii^hed in the later hjdf of the aixt
the earlier part of the aevimteenth c^intiury^'
li»22)| addressing himself " a une dame," f
to th« preparation for meditation and the ]
ing oneself in one's own rocation,
follows : —
** Pers^vJrez h bien vous raincrc vtms-mrRme en ce* »
nueK oontrodictionji joumali^rai^VM voiis r«itteiit«s ! I
le groi de vos di^sir^ (Mur ceU ; f^^aebes que Dieaj
rien de voufi, &Jiion celn, |>our mslotenaat*
amuscz doncqueA pa^ h fciire autre chose; ntt i
voa d4mn Bur le jardin d*uutruy ; ctdtivea
bien le vostre t no dwirez point de n*estre pas tstt[
eatee, maia dtlsires d'eitre fort t*ten oe qo* voos «*t9:
aronHex vos penMJet ^ voni perfectionncrea oala, «l k pttrter
lea croix on petitw ou |?raade« que vouj y reikOdiitNf^^
et rroyoE mo3% c'est icy le grand mot el !e moins eat«dft
de la condulte «pirituelle : chaeun nyme w1r>n «un co«^*
peadegeiift ajment *eJfin Tr — ' ' " ' - ^ ^ *•
tre^Ssigoeur. l>i; quov mr
E«p«gae, puiaqu'il nous fnu i
• Si^r efeotf etaffe, tossed off brtn^.
^ MaitiMt blood, gora.
4»*8.VIL Fi:b.25,710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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niAirieins la^ont «t vous Ventendrca bien. Dtte^-moyf
ma chhtm fiUC|fli tobi la pratiqoez bieo.'" — LcUres spiri-
Aeoording to one deJiDitioii of the phrase I
find ^chateaux en Espagoe '* explained thus — m
^cafiilea ia the air, literallf caatlea in Spain » a
eonntiy in which * castles ^ are Hli^ angeU viBits,
'few and far between * '^ — on explanAtion which
it nuaplj fxivoloua* Here, in thia inddeoial illue-
tnhtive z^ference of S. Francois do Sales, as it
teems to me, we get at the original allusion out
of which hat i^rowxi up a aaying that has since
baoome proverbial. Cbakles Kznx.
Vsmpdm nUJ, Kfiasingtoo.
Soomciasis nr AaiBBiCA, — Dean Ramsay^ in
hit excellemt and most entertainiDg Reminiscenees
0/ SeaitM Life and Character (the fifteenth edi-
tion of which is now before me), mentions several
worda and phrases which are peculiar to Scotland.
Several of these are in use in the United States,
That h© says that ''frail expresses itifirmUy of
body, but implies no charge of aiiy laxity in moral
pRDcinle^** We use the word in this tirst sense
ai w«il as in the last, as *'His health is very
frail,'' or *' He has grown quite frail.''
In Scotland a person wht^de health hat declined
b said to have faikd. This we also use, at " lie
hia failed greatly sioce I latt saw him,"
Dean Ramsay recollects '*a peculiar Scottish
pkiste Teiy commonly used, whiirh now secuis to
aare paaaed away," namely, '^ the ejEprest>ion to
Id an, indicating the notice or obtervation of
tomething or of tome person. For example : ' I
ttw Mr* at the meeting, hut I never IH on
tiwt I knew he was preaenL Thia expression,
mth p«9citely this meaning, ia in constant use
vnmc ut ; and it would be imptidsiblti to express
"'^a intended by any shorter phnise.
.g heAout foi behoove is another Scotticism
Jtc>?fded by him. Mr. Mark Antonjr Trollope, in
hiivotiUBe on Xorth America, mentions his meet^
11^ with a man in one of our Western States who
rat pfOQOUoced the word. I never heard it so
nuipronousced ; and the person of whom Mr, Trol-
lope iip(»akt most have been either a Scotchman
i„ fh^ *,.*, of one: and having referred to Mr,
K>ok, it gives me pleasure to add that,
aient, it is by far the fairest and most
ijrk on this country ever written by an
J rt. U2f£I»A.
ilitlBddiihia.
Em^nr't "* Dury '' ; GiGAifTic Oi.— April 29,
im-
"I Mw lo [/)iidan an h\x;;^ ox bred in Kent, seventeen
M in kngUt, Acd much higher than 1 could rcaeii.**
!mm in the Cattle Show of V^HO an ox which
*te<»d, to said the caUloguc, fi^ht^jcn or twenty
^chti higbtf than any other beast in the show,
^ thtl tall may Jbtood on a chair to mauipuhite
the patient creature ; but, in thete dajs of forcing,
the length, though groat^ of the animal must have
been much short of the Commonwealth one. Ha
mu.^tj I think, have been a sign of the times, when
monstrous things were breeding. J. A. Q.
Cari^Urooke.
Christophobttb MoRALTis, — I have before mo
two volumes of Jiflassesy writton by this celebrated 1
Spaniard; and as I believe vexj little is knowaj
ot hia music, and of these volumes in particular,
it teems that **N, & Q.*' becomes a fitting home
for this note* The first volume is dedicated to
'^ Illustrii^* atque excellentis. Cotmo MediciJ
Floren* Bud'^; and contains three mattes fofl
four voices thus entitled (generally from the sub-
ject of the fugue) :—!* *' Do beatu Yirgine^; 2-
*^ Aspice Domine"; 3. ''Vulnerasti cor meum***
Three for five voices: 1, "Ave maris stella"j
2* **Queramu8 cum pastoribus;" 3. '' L^homme
arme.'^ And two for six voices; 1. **Millo le-l
gretz"; 2, *♦ Si bona suscepimus,"
The second volume is deaicated to " SanctisMmo
Paulo tertio Pontifici maximo/' and has a fine
frontispiece, with the Pope blessing Morales, who
13 holaing open his book of music at the d
** Tu es vaa/' The eidesi of the plate aro 01
mented with music and instruments; at the"'
bottom are the arms of the Pope. This volume
contains live masses for four vu ices : — 1* *'Tuea
vat electionis" ; 2. •* Benedicta escelor rcMB*'; 3.
" AveMaria*'j 4. **Gaude Barbara" j 5. ^'L'homme
arm^/' Three for five voices : 1. " De beata Vir-
gine"; 2. "Quern dicunt homines '^j 3, "Pro
defunctis."
The two volumes were printed at Rome by
Valerius Doricus and Lud'Uicus, brothers, in the
year lo44* They ai-e printed in the old musical
square notation, and unbarred; have five initial J
letters on each page ; and, at the top of each left^ T
hand page, is the writer's name, and on the right
tlie name of the mass. It is said that only one
other copy of thia great work exists, which ia at
the Vatican J and any one who reprints the same
is liable to excommunication. I hope my (minua
ej:-) comuiunicatiou will not be considered too
long, as in all probabibty the books will get int
a library, and nothing more be known or though
of them. IL A. W.
St. A]kin*s, Holbonu
Centenariaifs. — The following notices of per-
sons who have lived for more than a centuiy are
worth preserving in*^N. & Q." Perhapa the
naisite proofs may be furnished in your pages,
ave cut them from the Lmct/ln, Mtttlofid, and
Stamford Mcrcun/ of January 20 : —
" Mrs. Mftry Piit died: at Li*kcard, ComwaU, the other
<t«y, a^'ed lO'i y^ara and 10 month*. Th« requisite proof
has hecn obtnined of her langevitr.
**At Whiitiesford^ near \:*mbrid{rc, on New T^me'*
Day, a woman uaiued Sarah Dutm4v««i, ti^ V^\ ^^cas^.
B^
100
^'OTES AND QUERIES.
t**!" S. I'll. Feb. »li,7L
Sbo had bornfl twelve children, iind she hod at her dratli
twj^nty grandchildren, sixty great -granddiildi-pn* mid
tbirtpen Krrat-great*|j:raDdchridrcn, But^ mni^^iilftr lo ri'Lite,
r>ut of bIT these there ire only two males to pcrpettittiethe
name of Dunn.
*• On Thuridiiy the 12th died ml Sandwich Mrs. Maft
Buller^ whfi waa' bom at Wurth* near Sandwich, March
25, 1770, ihoA having attained the patriarchal age td
I0<> years am! nine montha* Mr». Butler^ who was
chriMencil and married at her native viltnge, had been a
widow unwardi of forty year?. She was a *harp-speaking
woman, had a quick ear'and a good memory^ but hud fur
aome jean b«en quite blind."'
K. r. D. K
The following cuttingr from The Timm of
Jftnuaiy luat deserves preaervation in ** N, & Q." :
Mm*. Shiulky Mfinse Ccidp^ Aokd 100. — |*Oa the (7th
Jan,, at Suj^sex Lod^, Kingston Hill, the residence of lier
son, fidward S. Codd, Iv«q.. need 1<X» vears, nine month*,
and n\% duvs, Mrs. Shirlny Morse Codd, relict of the late
Atajor rhihp Codd, i»f Kumi»tead Court) Sittingboume,,
Kent, ajid Kenaiugtun/*
THE BROKEN nRIDGl*:.
TluB common »treet exhibition is well known
hy us under the name of the ** Cbinese sliiidtss *'
and the *' Fantoccini *'— an Italian name which
mejins (according to Bome Italian lexicographer?)
Chinese phantoma or ahades.^ The French say
that the amnsement ia of Italian origioi so far at
least, 1 presume^ aa they are concenied. The
Italiana Bay that it cjiine to them from China. I
have never witnessed the Broken Bridge in
France, but I know that it is a common ehow in
Paris, Lyons, and other cities, and that it is some-
timea acted a h f/iiiy«o/,t and sometimes with the
Ahades. I liave met with a French version of the
dmlogue, which is word for word with oura j and
I have heard the tune sung hy a French gentleman,
and find that it ia the mme an the English onp. In
Italy I have seen two exhibttions of the Broken
Bridge. The first waa a Marionette ons, and it
occurred at Arena on Lngo Maggiore ; the other
waa at Bologna in an archway in the street that
leade from the Cathedral to the Great Square.
A visitor to Bologna will Hnd that the ahove
archway is used ahnogt every night throughout
the year for Marionettes and Chinese Shades.
The Bologna show was a ''Fantoccini'* one. In
both cities the dialogue and song weiT the same
aa we have them, wnd so were the scenes. There
were the broken bridge, the swan that *^ swam
• I do not pronounce thia derivation cortrcL I say m
much to prevent any corrrapondent taking the paynea to
convict me of ignorance of etymology. I neither " guen^ "
noT pronnuQce ex cat/iednh I am a very modisit mnn,
and may, like anotber eorrespondent, hav« got hold of a
**dietianMty ** of ** no authoKt y/'
/ Ifjr the ityi^, who wmm Guignol ?
over/' and the traveller who "couldn't'*; the
cobbler and the mischievous woman, and the cob-
bler's impertinent reply to the traveller's asking
the hour. Indeed there wns not the slightest de-
viation, either In the music, song, dialogue, and
accessories, from the panm as we have them in our
exhibition. In Italy the Marquis of Ponte Csswita
is equivalent to the Marquis of Carabas in France,
I should like to know more about the history of
the Chinese shades and the play. What allusiont
are found in any old works? I have no doubt
that some of the learned corresDoadents of
** N. & Q.^^ can throw light even on taesa shade**
There are few of us who have not laughed at the
Broken Bridge, and I shall be moat happy to
know when and by whom that immortal structura
was planned. ' Stephen Jackson.
he calla
rle, ^
'* .Vntholoota Borbalib kt Australis.** — Dr.
Forster, in bis Pockei Enq/chpipdia of Natttral
Phmomerm (p. 10), quotes some lines — *^ The Stu-
dent and the Cherry-clack*'— from what he calla
**the AtUhologia Bi/r, et ^i^.*'; and again \
introduces some quaint verses thus ; —
"An antient proverbial adage in verae Bxy^ —
* When the lon^lie nwle in the chimney bowle,
la the dead of a wintri^ night/ Jtc.
AnU^ol Bot, «l Am*
Canon Oakelcy, in his CathoHc Fhrtti fp. I),
gives a poem of nearly forty lines from the same
source, and makes other fregueat quotations frooi
it, sometimes (as p. 104) with chapter and vewe
appended— **,i«/Aofo^iVi Bar. H Au$,, viii. 4,"
rh© work h also quoted by the author of W
Flowers and their Tmchintjs "(Bath, 184^), p.
and by other writers.
I have ascertained that the book does not cx^
in the catalogue of the Museum Library, Londoi
nor in that of the Bodleian at Oxford. Cm(
Oakeley, I am told, can give no information al
it, except that the quotations were sent him by
friend. Among those of my own friends who aro
best acquainted with Engli^^h literature, not one
has ever met with this mysterious volume.
Can the quotations, like the ** Old Play*' of ^it
Walter Scott *a novels, have been invented for ili«
nonce by some person, and copied without inqwity
by subsequent writers ? Dr, Forater's is the earM
mention of it I can find. lie was not a Httl«
eccentric in hia literary productions* Can it ^ •
caprice of his ? W. L. N.
Woodlands, BridgeAvater.
[ Seven t4?en years ago it was dtACOTcretl by oar wJorf
correspondent Wiluam riNKKiiTojr, F.S.A, tliit <j»*j
Anthntitgia Bareali* et Auttratia is a purely imagintfri
title for certain piecea of prose and verw, the prodttC^l
of Dr. For^ter, and boa no existence save in hb 0«^*fl
the Sm§om ami Ptickrt Ent'ttchp^ia, Sec " X. & Q<
I" S. ix. 6(J9.]
Atbrt Pbdiorbk. — Jolin Arery, of Bodmin,
00. Cornwall, nmrried Isoult Burrj-, of Wynscote,
00. Devon, A clue to the date is fiiniished by tHe
f*ct that laoult'a father, John Bjury, died in 1538.
Had thcT Any children? and were thej the an-
oeatora of Every of Wycmft Coatle, co. Dtsvon ?
1 may add that Henry Biurj, eldest brother of
lioult, was horn in 1514. I canoot discover,
though I have spared no pain«, to what family of
ATerrs this John Avery belonged. Your corre-
Apondent E. W. seems to be versed in the Avery
Dodigrees. Can be kindly jrive me any clue to the
qedmon of a question for wtiicli I have exhausted
all the Heralos* Visitations in the British Museum,
ioTiun? Hermentkude.
AlLTiFiciAL FLY-FTsniNu. — Who invented thi^
metier ? Where can I find any early notices of
It* It is earlier thnn Dame Juliana Bemera, who
lella us how to dub **xii flyes wyth whiche ye
ihall afJglti to ye trough I and, grayUyng."
Pelaoius.
^ Cablo Crtvelll— Wanted, narticnlars of the
life ind works of Carlo Crivelli. His pictures
hear dale from 1468 to 14D5, and he is said to
have been the scholar of Jacobello del Fiore. lie
is a rare master in England, though our Nulional
Gallery poittsesses four of his works, and four ore
now exhibited at Burlington House, three of
which are lent by Earl Dudley.
Jo&y Pig GOT, Jrir,
^ TCrivdli Is believed to have been a niative of Veniv^,
tm to have flnurished from about l-tfiO til] 147a. Two
pictarea by ihw artist are in tlie church of S* Sebaitiano
.41 v..r.i . r^pre:4cQting S. pAljbiano and the Marriage cif
; and onCf the ^ Annunciatton/* w&i bought
( IMwaid Solly's collcctiou by the Ute Lord
latter bears the ]n«tcnption " Libertas
i CaroH Crivilli V^enett, 1486." Con-
:.....^. -^, I van's Vict, (tf FaifUcrM and En^rapcrtt
«i by Sianlej', id40,]
Tee CoKcrLrAi>.'' — I have recently met with
1 quarto pamphlet bearing the following title ; —
"ThK Cuncilbd ; nr the Triumph of Patrioti«!m. A
hmu Traufclated from ilie J^atin of Ttrtiu.i Qtinittid
Jjintm. TIm? Third Eiiition. London : Trtnted for T.
nidftin, It the Keatbers in Fleet Stre«t, near Fleet
U contains twenty- eight pages of print, hut
*^*ft» are only sixteen lines m each page. The
^^^v- appears to have been published on the
'lion of the elder Pitt receiving his pension of
W>t per annum soon after the accession of .
I Jhorm 11 L I think I can detect Louis of France
^ alad.-ime Pompadour under the guise of
^ — aud P , and Pitt is very plainly alluded
^ uoder the aaoie contracted form ; but I cannot
Md tumies to the following: Fauks— , C 1,
^j~/ N , B ^,t A 4 »«d H .§
Bedford* t Anson. | llnniwickc,]
I
The letter N may mean the Duke of Newcastle,
and n may be Lord Hardwicke ; hut the verse
requires B to mean two syllable^?, and conse-
quently cannot stand for the Marquis of Bute.
Can any reader of ** N. & Q." assign names to
the above initials, and give the author of the
poem P 1\ T. W,
STR450E Fee paid by Irish Bishops. — I have
it on the authority of a distinguished prelate that,
nmong the fees exacted from an Irish bishop on
appointment to his see, was one of twenty or
twenty-five guineas to the Lord-Lieutenant^s cook.
The dieestablibhment of the Irish church has conse-
quently rendered less valuable jwo tanio the situa-
tion of the Viceroy *s cordon bleu. Can anj one
mention the origin of this strange perquisite ?
IL A. Kennedy.
Etdon House, Heading.
Fire used ik BtrRNiKo ttte Dead.— In a de-
scription of the burning of the body of a prince
on the banks of the Arno, near Florence (which
took place some time last year, with the usual
rites of Hindoo ohservajice)^ it is mentioned that
the tire to light the funeral pile was carried in a
vessel alongside the bodv. Can any of your
readers tell me if such is the usual practice P And
if so, whence the fire in the vessel is obtained P
Ckematiok.
SiMtJEL FooTK. — The following is the title of
a MS. formerly in the possession of Richard Heberi
and sold at his death. It will be found in the
printed Catalogue (Pt. xl MSS. No. 429) :—
" Piety in Pattens. Written by S. Footc, E*q^ and
first performed in hU Primitive Puppet Show." MS. 4lo.
Is it known what has become of this manu-
script? Geo. C. Boase.
[This manuscript wat purchased by Thomas Rodd, the
celebrated bookseller, for one shilling I]
** Habeas Com* us " Act. — Is it possible that
the story told of the mode tu which this famous
act was passed is foundt^d on fact ? I recollect
reading that the teller in the House of Lords for
the Ayes, when he saw a very corpulent peer pass,
called out ** There go two lords,'* and the teller for
the Noes, not perceiving the joke, counted fwa*
Of course if the names of the peers voting were
taken down, as at present, such a mistake would
have been impossible ; but in the days of the
** Merry Monarch *■ it may have been differently
arranged. The bill was carried hj a maiority of
one only. V. S, M^
[According to Bishop Burnet (Hittory of hh Own
Time, iu 250, edit 1823), we are inHt-bt^l to a je»t for
tbis highly-prized palladjum of Ent;lisb liberty. To
qwvte the bishop's words (1080), he says: ** The former
parliament had passed a Tery strict act lor the due eate-
cutioo of tho habeas corpus ; which was iodeed all thty
did. It was carried by an oAA, atWfvcA Vu^^^^cfV^ ^
L&Tihk LerdQrey andlAr<l^(»ti^a^tx«iA3si»l\A>aa^^%
162
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4«>s.to. Fotis.VL
tellers. Lord Korri»| beings a man fubjcct to vapours,
KrasDOl At nil timei AUentive to what Lb was doin|; »o a
ren'fat lord coming in. Lord Grej coantcd liim For t<?n,
asJije^t ftt iirst, but s*«tiiig^ Lord Nairis bnd not observed
it, he went on with this mii-reckoning of ten : m it was
reported to the House, and declnred that they who were
for the bill were th« majority, thotigh it iudted went on
the other side, and hy this means the bill paasetL**]
Ballad: '^ Nuttik0,*'— Fifty years a^o I re-
merolier reading a ballad called '* Nutting/' iu
wEicJi appeared the foUowiDg stanza : —
*** Zoands I ^ qaoth tho farmer, '■ whcv« is Diok ?
Tbe Dight b coining on us quick,
Tis time the sheep were put ia ;
But I must fold tbem, I fiuppcuSf,
While the joang idle ras<!Al ffoea
With Mnrgerj' a-nutting/ *'
I tBink I saw this in a Lixdies* Almnnack or
Diarj about the time above mentiooed* Can any
of your correspondents tell mo where I can find
thii ballad? JosErK HjLRRigoif, Juw,
221, South 18th Street, Phi la J el ph in.
Tub Pjkexix Tiiro2?e, — Sebastian, in The
Tctnpestf exclaims : — -
" Now I will believe
That there are unicorn*, that in Arabia
There is one trw, the phcpnix* tiirone, one ph«iiix
At thus hour reigning there,"
It h two decades since I looked into HerodotuB.
Doe5 bo connect the pbcenix with any particular
tree ? I am aware that ^oiV{| ia hoih the bird
and the palm-tree. But did Shakespeare refer to
any detimte legend? And if so, where may it be
fopadF MAKilOCHEIR,
Qttotatiox.— Where can the following q^uota-
iion be found ? —
** the actions of the juRt
SmeU iw«ot, and blossom in the dust/'
W. (1.)
[By J, Shirley, Oomiemtiim cf Jjas a»d Ulg»»et,
3»}
Chinese KtrDDBRs of Sniv%. — Tbeso baire
nnmerousi rhomlKjidftl holea cut in thcm^ from a
notion that the eddying of the water through
them imparta an additional power in fiteering the
Teasel The Chinese are so tborougrhly practical
ft nation, thitt I am induced to ask if this con-
struction of rudder has ever been tried in Enf^land,
and with what result P M. P,
Saott Wtn^FTiAX-^Where ihall I find some
account of 8t WuUran, bishop and confessor,
whose festival day is October 15? I have failed
to discover him in the Ada Sancfontm under thnt
day, and have consulted many other books with
an equal want of success. He must not he con^
founded with his namesako St Wulfran, arch-
bishop of Sens, whose feast is March 20. As I
fear some of your readerf may doubt the exist-
ence of the St, Wulfran concerning whom I am
anions for infunnation, I bog to refer to the
calendar published by Mr» J, J, Bond in bis
valuable Handy- Book of £ule§ and TubU^ /«
verifying Datca^ p, 165. A. O. Y. P,
th^
xupj
Seven Sermoks on the Sacrament, 1C3I
I am very anxious to ascertain the name of i _
autlior and other bibliographical particulara of the
following book, my copy beincr without a title-
page. It is 12nio) pp. 364. Seven sermons on
the Sacrament of the Lord*8 Supper oocupj
np. 1-278; a prayer, 279-282; a &a&kqp' *
263-286 J then comes a separate title —
'* A Instjfication of tho Gesttirc of Kneeling: in the
of recpiving^ the Sflcrnment of the Lord^s Sapper* ]
flon : Printed by Eliz. Allde for Robert Allot 1^81?
(pp. *289^3«4.)
On p, 217 the author refers to bia previous trsB*
tise, entitled the Three/old lUsokdion,
[The author of these works in John Dcnison, ricar ef
St. Mar^-'a^ HeadinjE^, and chaplam to King Janiw L
Wood {Athen, Oron. iu 439, edit. 1815), who has giT(«]
list of his works, speaks of him as "a learned uao
well read in theological authors." He died in the I
end of January, 102^9^ and was buried in St. i
church, Ucadini;.]
Stone Altahs in ENOLisn CmmcirEs.— In
Haydn *s Dictionary of Bates (p, 28) I find '* it was
decided in 18415, by the Court of Arches, tliat tioite
aiitirs were not to be erected in English chorcbesi j
Can you give the reason why ? Ohzoi
[This refers to the edebralcd jad^^cnt of Sir Heth
Jenner Fust, who, in the ease of I'aulkner r, iJtdir
and .Stearn, ruled that an immovable stone •tmd
whieh had bet-n placed in the church of the Hd
Sepulchre at Carabrid^ wa^ not a eomroonion tabi
within the roeflniDj;r of the rubric 8ee the j«d|sriiMDt I
len^'th in Robertson's Ecci€$tastical RqmrlM,U ItJi.]
Treveris' "Gretb Herball'': KAins of
Plants. — I should be glfid to know some wIk
culars of this work, which was published in 152^
and seems to be one of the earliest of EngE
herhals. It is^ of course, in black letter, and i
illiiatrated by very quaint woodcute— some
which do duty several times for very difi
plants* Who was Tn^veris; nud ifi this the i
ginal form of the work, or a translation ? I b*vi
been nnnble to identify the following' phmts, <
shall be glad of help : —
** Linguii aniens, GiK>s-byll or strche-wort, Ooos-btO
or beodoye is an hcrbp emnyu 3-nough, The rot^ cf it 10
lyke a goos byll | tnd Uie lerc* bea lyke the Uvm of
feme."
" Pa factum leporu f ' ' ' ' ' ' ' li'lf^
spurge I but it li.ith ]■ ' \ ■ *
lyke fcnfll and the nr . _ -rtd *<>
bereth no floiiro | but a tv^\ b^ry Jvke tmj^tx IFmf
pttf-m?"] but it is ronder. It is exiled haret paUytu P«*'
yf the hsre come under it | he h luine that iw'l»iat<»*
louche hym. Sc^me e.iU it artetyke,"
The former la possibly an erodium or geransldPi'
from the doscnption. The sow-thistle {Somik'^ ^
4«*»S.V11, F£ii.I5.*7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES*
163
i) WM formerly knowa as ** harems palace/ *
hnt eannoi he intended ab:>ye. Jajiss Britten.
Tbk Vkto at Papjll Hlectiox*. — Milmfm^ in
bta Laim Chrigtiantii/ (vL 407, ed. 1S07), details
the Iaw rokting to papnl elections wliich Gre-
Ctwy X. procured to be enacted by the Council of
JUyoiia^ " to 6eciir6 tlie papacv fiom the scanduls
vkieb bftJ preceded his own election/' But I do
not find mm that eanie learned work how it
CBtoe to pAM that France^ Gernmny, snd SdaId
exercised the power of the veto ngiiiost the elec-
tioai of any particular cardinal to the p*pAcy.
Wlmt u kaown of the ori^da of this power?
'^ it still exist? And if 90^ how has it been
by the recent chan^09 in tha relatione
yie fforenmients named aud the papal
1\\^ A.
Iiir^TATTD OF Wedgwood Wakts. — I have an
lakBtAtid of Wedgwocid^s manufacture, consisting
of tk semi-globe supported by three dolphins on a
ItMt triangular ba?e. In the centre of the semi-
globe is a couical ressel for ink, with a perfora*
lion for the pea when not in uae. On one side of
the iak-Tessol is a circular hole nearly an inch in
dijirneter, and ou the other side i^'a thimble-
sluped cuTity. Between these are three perfora-
llotj< half an inch wide, nn«l three a quarter of an
inch wide. I fthall feel ohliored to any corref*pon-
loat of ** N. iNl Q/* who will tell me the purpose
of than parA^Atioafi. M. 1).
I
Hrplif^.
IRISH CAR AKD NODDY.
(^ a yL llo, 105; 4'»» S, vi. 545 ; vil. 23.)
It itm afttoni»hin$r circumetance, while it prores
ibna2 value of ** X. & Q:*, that a vehicle which
*tt m common use in Dublin until a compara-
tireljr late period cannot be properly described
tilhortt a reference to its page*. Even our old
Md learn t^d contributor Abhba ia in error when
^fstiang i»f the noddy, evidentlr misled by the
™op of Skt^cht^ of Ireia**d ^uti/ Year a At/o,
^ ^ at the other side of the Channel are
d in the ancient history of Ireland,
uioiigu they seem to be quite ignorant of its
Boina aiT&ijs. Le^t theVf at a future periodj
■iftlflacarit ' ^r or the noddy aa state car-
''^ of K r, the " Irish sea queen," or
"oe other 1 ^ it^iv inbuloas character. I feel dis-
pOted tfj a-ik the Editor of ** N. & Q/* for a little
^^f so that I m&y set the question at rest for
Rtijdi^ In Htbtrum Cttrio^a (1700), speaking of
"obiin, oxpnwcly >trite«i that —
•jTticy hii'- I'M f M kin<l rvf li^ckni?!! here, that b
^ucd the i li is ni^tUiog more thaji an gld
Twks, in his Tour in Irelmid (Lond. 1775),
says r —
♦♦There are manj 8ia|;Ie-hor»e two-wheelod ehaijM,
-which coasinndy ply in the streets in Dublin j they are
CiAlled ijoddiea/'
The Traveh of Twijs were very unpopular, and
according to the system of the critics of the day,
were immediately ridiculed by Jn Heroic Epitik
to R. Twis5, Esq., from Donna Teresa of Murcin,
a lady mentioned in his Travf^U in S/Htin^ and in
this epistle we find the noddy first noticed in verse
as follows : — i
*' Perhaps some Krrtm wafls thc<? all doac
In mi^c veliicle to catca unknown;
High-K»w machine llmt bears piL'bcittn wight
To difttnnt tca-houae or funrrt-al rite :
Still as it moves, the prom! pavilion nods,
A chaue by mortak, noddy termed hy goda,'*
In An Heroic Answer from. Mr. Twiss he thus
describes the car : —
" \Vi.'U might an artist travel from afftr
To view the alractare of a low-backcd car,
A d«wnr nmttraM on the c*r i* laid,
The reverend fiither iiiount^, and ti ' ' ! ;
Some back to buck^ some side by - iJ,
The riiviihM maid by paniinj^ ytni: 1, _
Ijy dozens thus, full man}' a Sunday muitt.
With daiij^Uiig \&^-i the |o?ial cruw'd is borne j
llhrniarf th?y seek, or llonrth's aa[>inag broWp
Or Lcxlip, smiling on the stream below.
When t-a^e and chfiapne«»9 woo Id tbyTwisd engage.
Cars he preferred to noddies or to Atage^
Ofl 00 a ear Bavindus ^w me ridd
From Tred^igb's towers along bis verdant fide.'* *
In A Tour thrtmgh Ireland (Lond. 1780), tho
author tells us —
** Fimn the gent ral badoeas of the streets, hackney-
cxmches are more AreqoeDt in proportion ttian in Lcmdon,
and aedaa^ehain an eTerywh«re as common as about
St. James's. They ba%'e an o^ld kind of tangle-horse chaise
here, called noddle^?, so insufferably crazy, and «%*en dan-
gerons, a*t to afford matter of sorpri^ that they am per-
mitted to be ufied : their fare is half the price of a coach.
Thty are nothing more than an old one-horse chaise or
cbairf with a sio<>l tixed upun the shafts Jast before the
seat, on whieh the drirer sits» just abova the rutap of tiis
horse/'
The Act for paving and lip:hting the streeta of
Bubliu was only passed in 1774^ 00 we must not
be surprised at the touri at complaining of the bad'
ness of the streets, for in another place he says :—
•• Poverty can be no reproach to citizens whose indniStry
ia prevented from exertion; and this is the best apoloc^y
t can make for a want of clean Li nei^ which, if not in-
jurioti'? to the credit^ must undoubtedly be so to the health
of tfaU populous cityj for it cannot be denied that, except
the few new streets, which are paved and tiairged like
tho9e of Loodoo. tho whole of it is abominably dirty and
slippery."
So it aeems to have been better to have used
those dangerous vehicles than aubmit to the dis-
♦ These epistles will be ft.itnd in the first and fourth
Tolames of the JitrpoBitnrU, a Cofhrtmn n/ t-'npHioe FUceMf
edited bv J. Reed, and published by DilV^ m\TS^.
164
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[4«*S.VlLFfcB,S5,'7l*
?:
agreeableness of walking such fitreet«, among
what the writer calls ** wretched Imiridana,
covered with tattered weed:», tho most horrid mia-
creanta that ever degraded human nature.*^ Fur-
ther he Baya : —
"The hawkers of ocwi lod clcftnem of shoes fitl up
the tneiujurc of apparent poverty in Dublin. The tiltb of
their hotlies is offenaive, and their mftQncr shocking i their
outrogcn upon decency dii?^ust you at every corner, and
their wverel cries, infiaitely inor« sonoroui than ours,
tiagl« in your ears with all the enraging varieties of the
bro^c/'
Of the CAP he fella ua that —
" Goods are conveyed ahout the city on two-wheeled
-cars, driiwn by a afnglo horae» The'whceU ane thin
Tonnd blocks, about twenty inches in dbmeter. Thejr are
frw^nently us«d ns vehicle*^ for the common people oa
their parties of i^leaaure, when a bed or mat is pluccf] on
the car and half-a-dozen pi'ot>le sit on it, with their hg*
banging a few inches from t^e ground. They are grnc-
rally dragged a foot-pare, and are ta ridicalous a chai^e-
marine as can he imi^ned."
It ma J be as well to observe here that another
editioQ of this work waa publlahed, at Dubim I
iiuipect, but I do Dot know either the date or
place, aa my copy haa unfortunately lost its Utl©-
age ; but it only differa from A Tour through
Ireland by being entitled the Comply Insh Tra-
veller, and adorned with woodcuta. Of coura©
the chaise -marine and noddy are mentioned in
the aame words in both publications.
In a very rare work entitled A General History
of Ireland in its AntietU mid Modem State^ written
by John Angel and published iu J)ublia in 1761,
the writer tella ua that —
^ There are 80D hackucy-coachps and about 400 sedan*
chairs, the rxtes of wl^ich arc nearly the Bdme as in
LondoHt and smgle-horM diaiaes mad 'can iro ased on
parties of pleasure/'
Angel being a secretary to the Dublin Society,
which had been then for aome years endeavouring
to introduce arta and manufactures into Ireland,
his work is in a rather dignified atyle, conse-
quently he doea not condescend to use the eemi-
alang terms of ** noddy " or ** chaiae-marine *' ; he
merely calls them, what they wei-e in fact— single-
horse chaisea and cara. In 180(3 Sir John Carr
Eublished the Stranger in Ireland, Of the noddy
e aays p —
** This carriage is now somewhat rare. It is an old
battered Kingle-horse chaiw^ with the head up, having a
seat for Pat upon the sha/U^ w bo is so placed that he
letaliatcs upon his pasM^ngcr for the rump of the horse
being pUced close to his very mouth, Aa thi* machino
moves it no<ls : and hence, as the Irish arc always de-
aeriptive in their expressions, 1 presume its name,"
A new vehicle called a Jingle had by thb time
appeared in Dublin. Sir John tella tia t —
**I reached a jingle stand, and having beard much of
iJtia emrriMgCf in company with a friend I mounted one,
Mjid ioitk M drive uptta a nohh road /or about two miles, i
Jaia carrfMj^ resembles mb much of a coMch as remains \
afler the doors and the upper sides and roof art reoiovedt
and U mounted very high upon four large sleoder wli««l^
It* motion produces a rattling noi»e, which furnishes its
name : it is drawn by one miserable-looking honsCr whoat
fate it is frequently to pull after him, upon a smart trot.
his driver and «iix pa^tsengert. The principal sCaod ef
these cartiages is at the end of Bagot Street ; they art
tiumbcredf and the drivers are subject to the eolilrol of
the police for improper behaviour They generally nut
t4> the Pidgeon-bouM! and to the Blackroek, and \
again. The fare is sixpence only to each perMQ,
carriages^ wretched as tlicy look, are veiy ooiiT
and persons of the first respectability ftequeotly cida iiL
them/*
The jingle, then, was no other than an old
hackney-coach that had been divested of ita upper
parts; while a noddy was merely a aingle-bgrta
cbaiae with an added seat on the ahaft for the
driver. Being a public carriage, it consequently
was not driven by the person who sat in it, aa
Addison tella us. The " one-horse chny *' ia now,
I believe, only known in England by the comic
song which relates tbe laughable adventures of
Mr. and Mrs. Bubb when they used one at Brigh-
ton instead of a bathing-machine — ^a vehicle, by
the way, not so common in Ireland as it ought t<r
be. We here see the fallacy of M&. 'RMSmoEJ^
who tells us that —
" ... the old public cars called jlDglca, which wera modem
or improved noddies^ and were the procunon of tba
present covered and outside cars pecuhar to Dublin/'
The author of Sketches of Ireland, equailr aa
absurdly, tells us that the car *^ waa succeeded by
the noddy,*' for
•* Our one-horse vehicles have always been peculiar to
ourselves, and were in use long t>efore anytbtiig of a
similar kind was introrluced into England."
We have seen the car described in A Tour
through Ireland aa a chaise-marine, but it wai
more generally termed a Kingsend car, from the
place to which it was most frequently driven. It
had been improved from the dava when it wai
covered with ** a bed or mat'' ; it had now apriogt
and cii^hions, and waa termed a jaunting-car, and
it is thus described by Sir John : —
** Upon the road we saw several earnages pseatiar 10
the country^ That which struck me most waa ibe jaanU
ing car, an open carriage, mounted upon two small wbeili^
drawn by one horse, in which the company sit back to
hack, and hence the Iri&b, in badinage, caU it aa Insh
vit-a-vi* ; whiUt, on the other hand, considenng the posi-
tion of the partic:!! and of the coachman, who is elevated
in frontt I have heard it more appropriately, thoviffh hm
dtlicately, nominated tbe cuZ-S-cw/. This carriage u vciy
eon veil lent afid eai^y, and will carry six peraoos bealdil
the coachman/'
In 1808 there was published in London A work
entitled My Pockti-Bouk.* It was mereir a tr»-
vestie upon Sir John Carr's Stranger in Ireland.
Thereupon the ill-advised knight prosecuted the
publishers^ Messrs. Hood & Sharpe, for Ubel|
^* ^y Edward DuboK] J
V^S, ViL Fm.2:J,71.]
MOTES AND QUEKIES-
165
estim ft tinier liis damagea at 2000/. The trial carae
on nt Ouildhallf be/ore Lord EUenborougb, and
created a creat sensation in the literary world.
The jury, led by his lordaliip's charg^^ without a
moment's hesitation returned a verdict for the
dcfeudantjif tbua establishing the rights of criticism,
and Fo the knight got nothing. At page 20 of
M^ Pockti Book there is a picture of a noddy, and
at pag^e 1 another of a jaunting car, a large
cloinaj Tehicle tis it then wft*i^ being in a tranw-
tiofo state fmm the Ringsend car to the neat
modem jauntinj2:-cnr
I hftre, probably, the largest collection of prints
felatiiig to Ireland belonging to any private gen-
tleman, and I am able to trace in them the Kings-
tnd ear, in its different phases, up to the modem
jamitiiigHMur. One of them, being a view of Drog-
heda, first published in the Eunypran Mmjozim\
acCoally represents a pnrty of four on a Kingsend
car« in the Tery Fpot where Twisa is represented
aifKBg iu bis Heroic Answer : — »
**Oft OD a car Buvhictufl saw m« ride
Frvm Tnjdjigh'*! towers along hb verdant side/'
I rem ember perfectly well the old common car
of Ireland, as we used to term the Rings end car,
with its wheels formed of one solid piece of wood.
AU the week it may have caiTied any kind of
but on Sundays, covered with a bed or
[dlt, it always took a party of pleasure out on a
"laiinL It is/l believe, quite extinct now ; but an
old lady, lately deceased, who was on a visit at
the hotue of a country magistrate in the county
vH Down (which has m^n termed the Yorkshire
of Maud) In the year IBOO, has often told me
tlist the ladies of the family always rode on a
ewtmonor Hingsend car to church ; the gentlemen
*w» of eoUT9e on horseback. Iler story is curi-
Qiudj illustrated by another print that I have,
WtiUad " The Tiiinihinch Road, with a View
0(B*aT-TowTi and Head," dated 1781, in which
tkrw ladies^ dressed in the extreme of the fashion
of tiat day, are repre^nted riding on a Ringsend
»♦ The'horae of the car is led by a little boy,
»lw walks, dressed as a servant or page, while the
fwdamati of the party rides a spin tea horse,
Let er tells us a tale of an old woman going to a
^ oa one of these cars ; but there was nothing
<nage in thaty fori have frequently seen it done ;
^■f more, 1 haye actually seen iu Ireland a swell
^ tlie period going to a ball in a wheelbarrow.
^t« night waa rery wet, and the two miles of
^ he hftd to traverse were very dirty j hut by
**»« aid of several cloaks he was kept perfectly
j^, tad when turned out at the entranre to the
Wl-ioom with shouts of good-humoured laughter,
^ l^eet were as clean as if he had come iu a coach,
WlLLIAJI PjNKEBTOK, F.S.A.
I Htre a more than boyish remembrance of ih^ .
^*^j 10 far biiclr as 27^1^ wbea I Srst becnme /
acqufiinied with Dublin* It was a low- si zed
phaeton, with a hood lareer than its body, dirty
and dilapidated, shabby and shaky ; its Automedon
seated on a bar in front, decked in a loose cota-
more and ru.^ty caubeen, and belabouring* a gar-
roo, the flesh whereof would not have eufhced for a
hungry Parisian's hreakfasL Neither have I for-
g'ttten its contemporary, the four-wheeled jinffU,
with its eix passengers, and similarly charioteered
and horeied, I once had the honour of a spill
from one of these accotnmodating vehicles, be-
tween Dublin and Seapoint* E, L. S.
In Glasgow the noddtj wa.*' the common con-
reyance as late as IS^^i-^'iO for people not pos-
sessing a private carriagei and wishing to go any
short distance, as they were much Ubs expensive
than a hired post-chaise, although perhaps not so
convenient J heing not unlike the Dublin **rg.
car," but more like a car than an omnibus.
The noddy had two wheels, was box- shaped,
and was entered at the back. Private noddies
were often kept, hut their owners generally pre-
ferred the term " sociable '* to noddy.
W. G. D.
P.B. The Glasgow nriddy was the embryo
Gluttgow cab.
SIR WILLIAM ROGER, KNT.
(4*^ a I 458; iv. 107, 222, 342, 545 ; v. 07, 214,
326 J vj* 482, 5^12 j vii. 82.)
Dr. Rogeb seeks to excuse himself for having
in 1807 claimed to be the representitli^e of the
musician lloger, in that he ^' believed my state-
ment contained in Mr, H. LaiQg*s volume published
the year previously,'^ and hopes his " mishap mav
be a warning to all genealogists,*' &c. Now \
submit that in Mr. Laing's work is contained^
neither genealogical statement, nor statement of^
mine of any kind whatever, my name being merely
mentioned as that of the person who communicated
the casts ; nay, more, I am free to declare that I"
never, directly or indirectly, sug^^ested to Db. i
Roger his descent from this musician, nor did bf>
communicate with me at all in regard to the
matter. The truth is Dk. Roger has fallen into
his own trap, and dws not exactly know how to
extricate himself. liinv ilht iachrym^r. It is
impoaaihlo to follow the reinarks of one who evi-
dently doed not iu tho least luiderstand that
about which he writes. For example ; " The nar-
rative of the crests/' he say.^ (referring to a de-
scription of an old charter seal containing a shield
and supporters wiih exterior om amenta) — ** Deu-
cbar's book of British tresis '* — {when it has been
distinctly pointed out that the stonesculpture found
at Coupargrange consists of a fhield wilht^wt lao.^
crest) : " No Scottisti lamWy ol Uo%«iX ot "^jcs^BSt^
is oamed as using tven a crest" "^V^X l^^s^*^
IG6
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
L4««»S.VIL Fcii,:?i, 71.'
eTfcr possessed a crest wilLout iLo rij^bt to bear
annst* Mo8t people know that many families
poaseaeed tlie right to bear arm^ without tbe ri^ht
of uaiDp: a cxt'St,* but never tliQ con verse, aad
when was there aiij Sci*tcb family of tbe mime
of Kog-era ? As a queatiuu of fact tbo tirms con-
tained ou the Coupargrange sculpture are given
\u Btiuchar'a heraldic work — the only heraldic
work in the proper oea§o of the term, with which
he was evt^r co^aected, viz. The British Herald ff
in 3 vok. quarto» by Thomas llobsotij Sunder-
land 1830. So the alleged *' report" of Mr.
Deuchar, ^* ufler a search/' *' that the Conpar-
grange family had no creat or cnat of arms'' must
in th e nat iire of th ings he pure Jit' fiun . Dh. Ro o eu
aaya Mr, Deucbar wag ** idtogether incapable of
perpetratiojj au heraldic forgery," while in th©
very jvext sentence he deacriboa the coat fabri-
cated by DeiichHr for bia father the Iltiv, Jjiuiea
liofrer. Thi^ he tells its exhibits ** a dexter hand
hokliug a croaler Burmouiitiug a shield with
diargos entirely diiTorent from those of the cast*/'
a fact which would rather go to nutheaticatCj
* " The cTvsl Appears to have hv^n r mark of grcflt
dignity and e^Ute — ^inoro so.perliap3, than wiih implit^d iti
tbe mere right to bear aniiA " (Moaiaga, [>. 47). " Great*
were origitiiilly confined to & few, atid g^iven by roval
grant, and tveii to this dny there are several old fainiliea
who havu never nsed thexu." — Parker's Chmojy^ p, 9:*.
f Deucbiir*s abare in thia pnbUcstion, which ruined Its
Erqjector Kobjjon, nnd which was what Mr. Donehjir
irnsetf consideFed bia ^cat heraldic eflurt — eonaisted m
furnhbmt; all the Si-otch element wbit'b it containa. In
ihiB is fuand Ibe arms of five nepArate famiUea irf Ihe
fiurnnme of Hogcr, al^o tbe licLitiou^ coat maonfaclured
by Deachar fur ihe father of Dju GHAithti^ KuuEn. Four
of tbeste (cibviouMly auLhentic) are indicat<Ml as L»eIonging
to Sectch families of the nmne, thongh withoat aped^c
iMigtiatioii. Mr. Deiiehar*§ manoer of pfooMdxng was
this. When apphed to to funiish a coat of arms, he
gr«ntedf wiLbaut refurcnce to the Lyon. OHice— the func-
tions of which hu counted it his pecuHar privilege to
U8urp — such a coat a» in hb judi^cnt he deemed suitalde,
and which he tuf^raved ftceordingh\ He tlien recorded
fiuuh coat ai de facto borne by the indiridnal. My
authority for this itateneat ia one of Mr. lieu char's prin-
cipal assistants, who haa for many years becti a seal-
tiig raver tii tbe chief c-ommerciid city of St^olland. 1
LtlicveTyic British I hraid ahomido in 6Uch coata t 50 mnch
for Vn, Kuoer's *' iocapabJe.'* Ujw Roueji'm account
of Ilia father^ii coat armorial is not perfectly accurate.
The reverend gentleman, like his eon, had sonie noiioiis
of the dignity of remote anocstrj-, and *' claimed to be the
ropreaentative'*— 1. of I4o;;er the Norman Count oi Sicily ;
2. of Roger JUshup wf St, Andrew^ ntn of tbe Ejirl of
Leicester, Tbe bund holding the i^rosier is copied from
Ibe episcopal seal of Biithup Rf>ger, Tho KiinAj-dc-lis
coritaineil an the ahi<jld rqiresenis his supptiaed Xonnan-
Friinch LXtractiun. *"Le Koy " (the king, ie. of Sicily),
I'E^lise, tbe church, t. e. the Biahop of Sl AudreWa.
These vagaries diUe from the veat of gmcc 1820. The
CDBt contained on tbe sc ulpmred atone at Conpargrsnge,
and lA&xt found in Sirtftt^ Wa» p^ranted, piated ivlthln rr
hrriirr^ hy tlitj J.yon Oflic'c fit Editiburixh i^nievthfre
Within fAc present century U> a woud-iuerchant in ijla^-
"Tjr ofiirn name of Ui^dgtr.
thfttj disprove the authenticity of the latter,
muuh as that the coat framed by iJeuchnr for the
father of Dii. HuG£it is n knowu and acknowledged
forgerr* To this my late father alludes in a
letter written to me on October 23, 1848 : — " But
instances are not rare where the aame family*
through whim or otherwise^ baa adopte4 different
arms. Your uncle of Bunlno at one time inrented
a new bearing for hinisoli^ and a grocer
Perth of tbe name of lioger had a woi
weighing sugar (how repreaented I do notkn^
cut for his arms. Both found their way
I)euidiar*a book of blazons, which ehowa
worthleasness of some of theae bookrt at b
The gTocer*s coat is not recorded in Thm Bi
Ilendd: tliat fabricated for the father of I>K.
lloG KB is, however, given as a genu! ne cont armoj
with every circumstance of authentidty. li
BoQEB speaks of the '' non-exiating MaryweHl
Can Dk. IloGEE point to an instaDce of a man
scribed io an autuentic document as ** of " a ^
which hnd not an exiatence ? I have only to 9M
that the individual whom Dr. Rogeb describes as
" a *h^\m rirtvfair " was the father of thf h\^
Patrick l?laylnir of Dalmamocic, Esq., ^^'H
India merchant in Glui^gow, and the husbnn 1 4
Dr, Roger's granclfiivlber'ii sister. As to ^kt
Dit. Rogi:r is plenstni to *^ nssett positive '
mu:^t leave thiis to the judgment and dii
of tho reader. J. C. "■
BADGER.
{^^ S, vL 544.)
A short time since I copied the foll0wlDg \
graph from the Caletnlur of State Puftwirtf uim
Saries, volume for the years 1547-1580;^
"December 17"», m^^h. Note of certain fwmm ilWi
Ilambcr aide who buy up j^reat (^aantitica of oai«,tw»
of whom are authorised badgcxa.*'
The readers of the ch arming storr, Th§ La^
of Sever Hollow ^ will remember the •'butt®'
badger/* who appears in the opening sceoe.
This word may now be confined to the Nort^
of England, but it is not a local term* It w'i^
applied to a dealer in com, meal, ^c.^ bcitig ^^
rived from the barbarous Latin word fAntitjitf^
corruption of bladariuSj a com* dealer, and w
applied to the brock in consequence of the pnpi *
tradition that it stored its food (consUdng of 0
meal, &c,) for its winter supply, Soma deriirs
word^ as the name of the animal^ from the
beii tjStSr^ the baiting go ur; if so, we have anel^
transition to the Frenih badf/eur^ and I am iOcUmJ
to think that this is very probable. How the wort
is »till retained in its primitive state and mtMUiWi
i^avii. riui, 25/71.]
KOTE8 AND QUEIUES.
167
the fsrt^ tbftt words nnce in common iise alUoYer
0*r r*nMn(fv liflve fafld tlidr spheres grftdually
i' i bj llie u«e of more nirxlem forms of
< r^i^tl «re thu^ fossilised : for instance,
t -nt h now almost exclii?ively coa-
-t of England, as in Herefordshire,
u tlie peasantry generally ; and I have
:^L doubt but that the word had^ jany
to have been in common use in more
' irt of £In^land. Badger ia also nsed to
& pttdlur or porter, being derived from the
Italistt imUifpo^ tiiia being probably from the
Qteisk fi^HTT^fw, so that both meanings will apply
ill liwwmng your correspondent. i. J. Junu,
Bttdirer (from the French hagage^ and thence is
^ -^ ^ ' r, a carrior of sroods) signifies "one
t ind victuals in one place and car-
r jin.tther to sell and make profit,**
te 6 & 0 Edw. VI. c. 14: Badger cx-
'' ra the punishment of an iugrosser
I statute.
-u. c. 12: Badgers to be licensed an-
Bttotly under penalty of 5/.
Th«3 7 & 8 Vict. c. 24, abolished the office of
l«d|fe-ring, and repealed the statutes passed in rela-
tiuQ to it, (Jac^n's Law Dict.^ Wharton's Lnic
I/T., &e, Hee also Littleton's Lot, Did,, 4th ed.,
1715, ** Bajulua/*) O. M. T.
Wr. Peacock's Ghmarg of tfw Diakd of the
Hundred of Ltjuni^/cghm " Badger = a travelling
lm?pf-«p of produce," E* IL Kkowles.
OMBUE.
I hare henrii that ombre was a game eimilar to
u^.w^Ur. rrhit^h I remember to have seen played.
re used » which in the fir^t instance
t'> a pool — a pool of quadrille being,
rn^ r nf whist, a succe^t^ion of games.
ri r Iq were used. I think the threes,
tI 1: ' ^ were those thrown out. There
II r ] ' lynra. The three great cards, or
-'otafadorDii/' were Spadille, the ace of spadea;
Iftmtl^n^ according to the trump, the two of spades
^ r the seren of henrta or diamonds;
i -e of clubs. The trump was decided
^ leave," the first hand having the
If another said ** preference," mean-
^ for the trimip, the first gave way.
' wa<i decided by one of the players
' * ^r '.- tirst' would not yielc[ to
lit " call a king "— r e. nam-
worthlefwi card in
a fine, and thon
I- «. tit.k. ii-ii i-uL m n j>Mr(t:»*r; but if another
•M *«i If ill play alone/' all yielded to him,
If the name of the trump made all the ten
tricks it was a ** voice," if only ^ve it was a
** basto," if only four it was " codille," or halted
ofi* the hoard. When hearts or diamonds wore
trumps the ace was called Punto, and ranked
above the lung; if not» below him and the nueen
and knave. Hence, the king of hearts not oeing
ft trump could tiike the ace, and save Belinda
from Codille.
I have heard that in ombre spades ware pre-
ference, and hence Belinda names spadea as the
trtimp, she having the three matadores (or mats)
in her hand, tha king and probably a small apade.
The reader will find that only three players were
engaged, and that there must have been ten cards
in each suit. The game derived its name from
the fourth player being the nthadotc^ thoujrh how
he became such 1 know not. In some old houses
you may occasionally see card tables with seoopod-
out pools — ^perhaps now used as slabs in an upps '
storey — these are ombre tables,
I have heard that quadrille is a 6pimish game.
The matadores suggest the bull fight. Is Spadilla
the sword, Basto the club, and Punto the dog Pi
What is Manille, and what Codille ?
Can any one inform me what was the game of
Boston ? Z. Z.
Your correspondent will probably find the de-
tails of this game in the Comphat Gamtt^er^ edi-
tion 172!, From thia work Mr, H alii well, in his
Arrhatc Words^ quotes the following descrip-
tion : —
•'There are sevcrnl sorts of this jjamo called L^Omhre,
but thrtt which is the chief is cflUed Rcne^ado, at which
thrpfi only can plar, to whom arc dealt nine curdf^ a pif>f^:
m th«t Vltaciirrtiii^ th^i eighth, nincA, and tens, there will
rcmam thirteen cartlt* in the ^tock i there is no trump
hut what the jtlayer i^lenses; live llrst hand bfi^ always
Iho liberty to play or paas; after hira the second/* &c.
This is as far as Mr. IlalHwell quott^s. The
game is of Spanish origin, and is only an improve-
nient of ** pnmero.** The Complcat 'GameMcr says
the latter game went rapidly out of fashion after
the introduction of ombre.
In Taylor's Ilidory of I^itjing Cardjs (JlQiUsn)
it is stated : —
"The Italians have been the inventors of almrwt ill
the gsmes of pure chance ; the Spaniards, od the contr4ry,
atfeet none but those of a dignified character. Th* ir
national ^aine — ombre, * the j^amc of man/ a nuxlifieatioaj
of th« earlier fjnmo of primen} — ia nf all modern t^Fiini^"
that which mmt re?»einble.<i the ancient tarot. We mny
conclnde, therefore^ that it is the eftrUc^t of e^Hii'if!
(raraen, and upini that ai^^umption, that the Spaoiarwi
were the earlieat card phiyara/'
Joinf Pig GOT, JuNH.
There is, I believe, no good description in print
of this excellent game, now, alas ! disused in Eng-
land, thougli in full vogue in Spain (iiMftt VW
f
NOTES AND QUElllES.
t4«* S, VIL F» t5, '
name of Tresillo) And Spnni^h Amenca (o^ Rocam-
bor), and, ob I haTe been told, in Germany also.
When I was in Spain in 18o5 I collocted two
or tliree little tractates on TreaiUo, and from them
I compiled »uch an account of the game aa I gup-
pose Mil* Ubal doeires ; that is to say, not an hia-
torical ooe^ but a description of the gnme, with a
code of rules,
I fear it would be too long a ** note " for
*^ N. & Q/' (it might take about ten pages, I think),
othenvig*? it would be very much at your service.
The ^me ia so g^ood a one^ and ao superior to
Whist both in variety and the opportunity it
alfords for the exercise of skill, that it would b<3 a
real gain to the English world of card-playera to
liaTe £iuch a knowledge of ita merits as would be
tri^'en tli^m b? the appearance of its rules in
Menn while, Mit Udal ia very welcome to the
loan of my little book ; and he will see therein
that the ace is but the fourth card in the red suits
(except when trumps), and is consequently liable
to be captured by the king, which ia the first
I will take thii* opportunity of correcting an
error on this subject into which your correspondent
Mr. Peacock haa fallen in his very nmusin^ book
Grt/ii Grange,
He criliriaea Pope's description (which is in-
deed ^ as Mr. if DAL ^ays^ magnificent) as not
accounting- for the full number of forty cards ; but
he seems not to have been aware that thirteen
cards remain out in each deal to eerve aa a hank^
from whence the players supply themselves nfter
discard ; so that the cards in play are but twenty-
seven, and P«ij>e, in this as in iilfother particulars
of his deaeription, is perfectly ri^rht
Hen'BY IL GlBBS.
St. Dani^tAQ's, Ke^nt*s Park
THK HW^KWORM.
(4»''S, vi.627; tjL 05.)
I baTo seen many bookworms in the course of
my lon^ intimncy with books ; and the tirst spe-
cimen of the insect I chanced to meet with was
in an old Tokime in Trinity Collepre Library,
Dublin, in the year 1836; and here, in OjLford/l
have seen not n few, Some years ago I received
a letter from Mr. John Leij^hton, F.S.A., ajskiiig
me to try and procure a spmmen of the worm,
which he wished to e:ihihit before a curious audi-
ence at a hcinn^ which he was about to deliver
in Loudon, I fortunately was able to get a living-
specimen of the insect from my son in the Bodleian
Library, and trtmflmilted itsaft^ly toMr. T^eighton,
enclosed in n quill, by poat, just in time to be
produced on the table by the lecturer,
I " made a note" of the book in Trin. Coll.
Library irirere / /omid the rarager ; but I cannot
at this moment put my hnnd on it. The date, I
think; was about 1600. J, )LkC&AT«
Oxford,
Is the bookworm anything more than the little
chocolitte- coloured beetle we know so well as the
producer of ** worm-eaten '^ furniture and boords?
His little twisted borings are the same in size, and
I bftve caught him in my books. Once only havf
I had the privilege of catching bini in the gTubj
or caterpillsr state, and then he was a wbiti^il
lookinc' grub in the middle of a volume I saddenljj
opened, and was eating his nas^age out. I
sunied at least that this must be a bc«okworm, ba'
I am no entomologist. Our old library used to]
be infested till my mother cured the books br
hrtviug" them taken down every year and dust<
where needful with pepper and pounded alum,
P.P.
A copy of Ccmfcmutin of FnitK Sc, i^'c. ofjmbUd
Antltoriiy m tke Church of Scotland ^ Olifycoii;
1764, in my posse.<«sion| is considerably
eaten. The diameter of the hole, measured
several phicea where the perfornlion is peroeo^
dicukr to the sides of the book (and the nolr
consequent! V nearly circular), I make one-tweil^
tiethofauinch. ' W, F. (2,)f
I have Prinsep's HtHorkal ResulU dedt$
from recent IXscopertejt tn AfftjhfmutaH^ ^^^ bidlj
wormed on th« buck mnr^in, quite through
book and the plates, and also through the dot]
binding. Published in Loudon in 1844 by V9
U, Allen S^ Co. SAit. Sh4W. '
Andovcr,
IL B. C, will perhflps like to know that
8y 1 venter believes he has seen this inaect,
" Kftture," lie writes, '* haa gifted m« with rye* of I
ceptioniil rnicrc»5ri}pk power, and I citn npeakwitliJ
flstu ranee of li«vin|; repeatedly w»n the creature i
on Llie leamiLd pa^fc. On Approaching it with t
t]ni;;cfanil, it stiffens out into the M^niblanfc of a alreak^
dirt» ftiid m eludes detection.*'— Lair# of VerM, p» It
nolr.
Makroc
** Row d<?ar are their t>ookii, th«r cabinets af
various proftucitons of nature, and their cotleetkMS '
prints and other work^ of art ami scicact', to the learai
tlic Bcienlific, and the virtuosi ! Ev#jii the«e pn^ciotu tre**
mres bavc' tljejr in?>ect anemic?*. The larva of Cramh^
pimftcinaHi will c^tublisih it-flf Dpon the binding oT *
book, and Bpinninjj a robe, which it co^*er8 with its o^^
pxcrement, will do It no little injury, A mite (jIow**
erudttat^ Schrank) cats the paste that fastena tb« pap**
over the edges of the bindinjEr, and w lo<«eii* ii, I ba**
&bo often observed the caterpillar of an ' ' ' mvtflw
of which I have not a.*i"ertiiined the : '^^^J
its station in dHinp uld books, Ix-tw* > v «""
there comniifs great ravoges; and many a bUtk-letUf
raritv, ivhich in thwe days of bibUuinaaU vtQ\kU 1**^
^OTES AND QUERIES.
., raided at ils weight In gold, biii been Bn«tche4 by
DfM d«atTQirerxi from tlic bandA of book^coUpctora. Tho
little WOOd-bdrin^ beetles {Annhium pertinax ant\ $trh-
tmm} aUH} iittaek books, and will even bore throur;!!
ivrcral volume!). M. Fei/:irnot mentioDJi nn ins^tdnce
wherct tn a public library bat little frequf^ntetl, ttvtntyh
ttmem folio volumes were perforated m a ^trni^'bt line by
til* dame intcct (probably one of tbe^o pprcii'*) in fuc'h
t manner t bat on passing a cowl throuj?h the perfectly
rtmiid hole made bj it, these twenty-seven volumes couM
le raiMd «t once/ The animals last m«»ntioned al«>
imJtinaf priAU and drawings, whether framed or pre-
mrctA in a porie-feuiiu:'' — Kirby and Spcnce's Ent<h
r»l«22,voJ. i. p. 230.
" BOOKWfUJMS, HOW TO KIIJ.,
•• Tbepe is a jtort of buity worm
That will ihe fnirt^st bookMlefurm,
By gnawin;; hole* thruiii^hout them ;
Abke throiif^h <-vVy Ipaf ihey ^^o,
Yet of it5 nifriJs noiiicjht they know.
Nor eare ihey anpht about thenu
"TKdr taslele«s tooth will tear nnrl taint
The po*tt patriot, s.i|*e, or paint*
Nor Pparinjf wit nor leaniinfr:
Kow if yoaM know the reason way,
'Hmj best of reasons TU i^opply—
*Tia bread to the poor vermin.
" Of pepper, snuff, or "bacco-'*mr>l;4'.
And uassia-calf, they make a joUo,
Yet ythy should worn* of sck*nre
These puny, ranklin;; reptiles dread ?
*Ti* but tri let their InHika be niid,
And bid the worms defiance/*
{rus-G waring, by John F, M. Dur/ijston^ Shrewtbitry-f
W16. p, ^54*)
c. w, s.
R. B. C, io your iesue of Jan. lM ^ saya ** he has
Mm Ken ft bookworm or heard of one who has/'
AJJow me to introduce mv«elf as that **' rara avi*,*'
t^». '*oae who has/' I [iav«3 a copy of Dttramhn
^onnUf Arg. 148*t| in the original beerh hoard
"fi^itR* The latter is quarried through and
^iuwigh by the bookwornu From the dust it
Aide on my shelves 1 iVdt that the wurni waa in
'Uontbuing^ ita ravageB. And one day I became
convinced by taking down a newly-bound book
wtich «tood by its side, and finding a flight per-
foniUon of the leather, the proximity of this
fway waa manifest I took severe measuree, nnd
JBtDKhaielT ftubjerted Durttufim to a terrible
'^••tio^ with a b a mm or. Out popp+>d one^ then
f*0 living worms, not quite a quart ur of an inch
wa^, Ultimately I obtained twenty specimens
N' the worm, which is of course a Inrvnl ftalo ;
'^ betides thift 1 obtained three ei^amples of
»« perfect insect, a small brown beetle, but
i-weie WW© dead, I gave spt^^cimens to friends,
llrept some Jiivsflf| which by somo aceident
Ihstt
My belief ia that this insect originally belonged
^he wood, and is identical with that which per-
waie« old fornittire made of beech, walnut, or the
^tiod of the pear. It ia not so often seen in oak^
for it evidtfntly prefers the sweet woods. It does
not like the mill-board of modern hooks, or it
w*ould have gone into mine, and it prefers wt*od
to paper. It seems to me to be a v«?ry near rela-
tion to the nut worm ; it is like it in overv parliculav ^j
but fltSEe. J, G,' WALfBR, /
68, Boisover Street, W-
SlIAKESPEAItB AND ARDEN.
(4"»S.vii, 118.)
The grant of Dethi^k Garter and Camden'
Clarence ux to John Shakeai>ere in 1509^ to impale
the '^auncyent armes of Arden of Wellinjrcote,"
and for his is^ue to quarter the wime— if such
j^ant ever actually parsed the seals of oliice — for
It 15 known only from a draft copy preserved in
the College of Arms — hns been very cnrefullv
printed in The Ilt-rafd mtd Gntcfflofftftf voL i.
p. 512, preceded by the previous grant in 15?Xl
of the well*kaowii arms of Shnkespeare. But it
was shown in the accompanying remarks that
there was no proof that Arden of Wilmcote
(which is the true orthography) ever bore arms:
and that Dethick, or whoever was tho herald who
proposed to grant Ihe quarteiing, hesitated to
j^ve tho arms of tho Wurwicksbire Ardens, then
flourifthiug at Purklmll, co. Warwick; but took
instend the arms of ^Vrden of Alvonlev in Cheshire
ditlerencing them by a martlet, Thla is shown
bv a fac-eimile {ihtd, p. 503) of the herald's
fitetch, in which the former coat is scratched
through and the hitter ^substituted; one being
Ermine^ a fess eheqttt/ or mid azure, the other
Guleg^ thret crossiett fitch te and a chief or. In fact,
the two familiea of Arden in Warwickshire and
Cheshire were distinct, and their relationship, if
any, is questionflble and remote ; nor is there ap-
parent support for Ma. IlRtsBY's phraseology —
** the old Warwick Btock of the Ardens, and the
Alvanley branch of thnt family/* Shakespeare's
mother in the armorial draft of 1500 was described
as ^* one of the heyrs of llobert Arden of Wel-
lingcote*'; and in loOO the same Robert had been
styled, by Uethick^ at fir^t "Gent,'' and then
"fesquire?' But two deeds which have been
discovered and pnhUshed in more recent times
hnve shown thnt in 1550 the same person was
only '* Robertus Arden da Wilmecote in parochia
de Aston Cantelowe in Coniitatu Warwici hts*
handmmK' (J. P. Collier's Life of Shakesftemr^
1844, p, hxiii.) Robert Arden 's will, published
by Malone and by flail i well, Life of Shakfisprare,
1848, p. 6, and all other collateral evidence that
has hitherto been brought to bear on the discus-
sion, entirely conlirm the same view of his posi-
tion in societv.
If the grant to John Shakespeare and his issue
for impaling and quartering Arden ever actually
passed, there u no ^toot \\iaX.\l^w^ ^\«t %s5«^
170
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4«»aTII, Fin. 31^*71. 1
upon. In no old tniitiuacript hnt^ the two conta
l>e«n found quartered ; and «s for the ** »eiil " of
William Shakespeiire — of which Mr. IIkl*»by
inrnginet the existence — no imnorial &eal what-
eTer of the poet has heen discovered.
On his monument at Stratford his annorial
shield IB without quartering', and I cannot «*»Tee
with Mr. Hef^bt that ** monumental evidence is
no evidence at all," for I regard it as amonp the
Terr best. On the seal of the poet*8 daughter,
Mra. Ilftll, engraved in 77*# Het-nld and Genealn^
mstf L 514, the arms of Hall are impaled with
ShalsaBpeafe alooe ; so thej ai%on the mTeetones
n£ herself and her hu^bancl; and on that of her
daughter Iklw, Nash, the coats of Hall and Shake-
Bpeare apP®*r Quarterly, but no quartering for
Arden, Tnese all are engraved iu French's Shake*
Mptaraami Oenmloptctt^ pp. 413, 41 4» 416.
I think also it will be admitted that Mr.
Hmjsbt's reflection is rather inconsiderate, ** that
Shakespeare never troubled himself in the very
costly matter of pedigree in those days." In the
first place, *'tho matter of pedigree " vfss a much
more ordinary atlair in those days than in our
own ; and certainly it was not, proportionstely
speakbg, more " costly " then than now. In the
second place» we have very good proof, and it is
undoubtedly an interesting feature among the very
limitt'd nmteriaU we pt^ssess for the poet^^ bio-*
graphy, that he did really " trouble himself," in
IMIO and again in 1591), in asserting hia position
as a Gentleman, — for there can bo little doubt
that the application to the heralds made in hie
father*8 name actually came from himaelf; John
Shakespeare having been bRiliffof Stratford thirty
years before, in 15iJ8, when he might havechiiraed
armorial bearings on that ground, had he been
inclined to do bo. However, as the result of the
two grants, we know that the arms of Shakespeare
mnted in loOG were adopted snd used, but we
have no proof that the quartering for Arden was
ever adopted or used.
Shakespeare^s itu mediate ancestors, both pater-
nally and maternally, must be admitted to have
been of the '* peasant " or agricultural class. And
whjr not ? If the truth were otherwise, it would
he interesting to trace his descent and hia col-
lateral relationships. But if in truth be was not
of noble ancestr>% it is fiurt4y more satisfactory to
lest upon that truth than \o weave theories of
riaionjtfy ancestry for his illuetrioue name.
It was the trade of the heralds of hid day to
think and act differently : and the character' and
conduct of Cooke, Detliick, tmd others who were
high in oHice in the Elizabethan age are unfor*
tunately too open to these suspicious.
The " combatant at Bosworth/' to whom Me.
nEi.SBT alludes, is in all probability altogether a
ttvth; and conjured up— not like the spirits in
^m^Aj by the poet hima^U] but in the cauldron
at the Heralds' College, m Bethick finding tha
Sir John Arden (or Ardeme) of Parkhall in Wa
wickshire had been an esquire for the body
King Henry VH. This borrowed plum© wa*
hrst taken for the Wilmcote Ardc*ns, and theiif
ambiguouBly transferred to John Shake«pear«'t '
own anocJitry — in the first mnt of 16W to a
grandfatht*r, in the second of 1599 to a |
grandfather. McKit*m interpreters have i
accessory conjecture that the imaginary
fought on Bos worth field.
Before I concludo I may refer Mr. TTftrrt ia
Trench's Shnkeifpeareatm Getteolofficay -pw i
1809 as a supplemental volume to the t t3
edition of Shakespeare by Clark and Wright s
in which, in pp. 416-503, he will lind large coW
lections on tiie various families of Arden, \n^
eluding all that Mr. French could allege in repl^'
to the writer who criticised Bellew's Shak^ptrti
Home (8vOy 186.3) in TA/- Heruld mtd OmmlogiM,
The wills and inventories of '* Robert Arden of
Wyllmcote in the paryche of Aston Cantlow'
(lto3), and of his widow '*Annes Ardenne
Wylmcote '^ (1580) show their wealth to a pent
His goods were appraised at 77/. 1 U. 10a., he;
at 45/. He was in fact a yeoman ; and even i *
extent of bis land has been aacertained : it was j
freehold called Asbies in the parish of
Cant lo we, consisting of fifty-six acres and a wel
fimiifthed homest*^nd possessing a hall, chamh
and kitchen. Such was the meaning of «fo
or *^ husbandman *^ ; not an agricultural lab
as we now commonly accept the de.«ignation, hit
still not a gentleman ; an hone-st man, who, like
the father of Bi&hop Latimer, cultivated his own
land, and provided well for hia children. Mw
Fiench, however, is evidently wn^ng when (h
p. 41 W) he amplifies the fifty-six acres to
hundred and fifty- six by adding to the
some property at Snittertield, which passed thr ^
the hands of the 8a me or another Robert Arde
and which Mr. French mentions as being of" 1
precise extent, vi?:. 60 acres of arable, 10 of ]
dow, and 30 of fun:e and heath,** &c. &e., thong;
it is perfectly well known that the arbitrary i
mates which occur in those round numbem are *
merely the legal substitutes for unascertained par-
ticulars, And again (in p. 485) by a similar ]
cess the 156 acres are increased to **242 acres (
freehold land at the least ** \ but in all this 1
is evident misapprehension. At any event Roh
Arden, the father-in-law of John Shakespeare, i
not die posse,«fied of so much property. Kor can)
afrree with Mr. FVench in his identifirfih'on
Thomas Ardeme of Wylmcote, liviog in
the father of Ilobert), with Thomas m* i
the will (1526) of 8ir John Arden, the
for the body to Henry VII., as one of hi
brothers. Hnd this been the fact, the nirfit '
1 Robert Arden to the coat of Arden of Pa
i»* Sw XIL fzB. 2j, 71.}
NOTES A^D QUERIES.
171
with due diiiereDce, would have been unques-
tioiiable, Mr. Frtnvrh backs his concliisioag by
Mf. Iltinter'A ar^'uiuenta in bis PrDlosLuiis ou
ShAktpere; but lluDter was mUled by trusting
too impIiciUy to tbe assenions of De thick's grruitj
^4MBcrtions which are not supported by the Visl-
ts^oms or other documenU of the heroldd, nor by
any more substantial legal evidence.
Mr. French's additional proofs or conclusions
ad < further than this : that Itobert Arden
01 e was the son of Thouuia of the same
piacv ; inu in proof of the connecti<jn of Robert
tBd hia father ThomAs with the noble family, be
has no eridenoe at all. The supposition is merely
founded nu the fact that Sk John had olsj a
brother Thomas.
Plaased with his discnfijinaliou, Mr. Freuch, in
hia Table X. (p. 409) poaitively exhibits Eobert
Aidcn of Wilmcot© aa a nephew to Sir John
Arden of Ptukhall ; but the armorial evidence is
still just the othor way, and shows that tbe
Heralds did not dare to asssiign hini tbe coat of the
Warwickshire Arden 3. Hubert Arden of Wilui-
(sote and bis father Thooi^s were not men who
bid declined from their position as cadets of a
oable family ; they were rather honeat yeomen
^ho hMd lisen in' wealth and substance by in-
dost^ and frugality, and were able to leave Bome
little property^ but no ancestral dignity, to their
* uta tl^ Shakedpeares,
Jqrm Oouen Nxcttois,
" PABSO.'^ ABD BAC02IV
(4«'» S. vi. 500.)
1 MEnd ftaotber version of tbis song*, but cannot
*jif it exists in print in any furm* This was
^Hrd from a i^entrine North man » about the year
1828, whose pronunciatiun gave a xeat wbich, of
^Mima^ bt indescribuble in wiiiio^. His figure
t«V nd dreag, were in perfect ket-fping. He was
aniny-buUt man, tall, but stooping ; with a hat
bokiiig in, a belcher neck-cloth, a frieze coat,
<"!« breeches, rough gray btockings, and high
liioia,
I " A llt«liodist pmnofi^ whotm iiani€ it was Georg«,
<AJaJly fild liokjer, jtiAt come from tbe fofii%
Aid a virtuoua old woomui, wfao stood Cieorfrf's £rioad,
And bo ofteu weut tu lier, her j^uuI for to m^Qi«.
Deny down, down, down, dufry down I
i r, no Mfcthodlst he,
va jcii;, and w«#jully And free;
L. „^... ,^ ut^e did not come wilh honeM iatSfit,
Ab4 reoohrvd tor bis bftooa to know how it w^nl,
I>crTy dowa, &c.
e kcew ihif! man's wife, and he often yrent to her,
lit of a ^ood -^li*?** of bacon he'd do iier :
\*'ai mjtiee bud tuk«n,
inie a prGAcbing fot Ixtcoo.
** tie went out aa nsualf supposed to bis work,
But thft canning fllyloot* only went out to lurk.
By and hyo he tanic in, and be fonnd *em at prayer,
Tliey fiOHOied mighty zt^alou?, devout, iknd aiaoere*
Utrry down, dc*
** He looked on hia bacon^ so canning and sly.
Then in George's iK>cket hp cast a quick eye;
And he hsw sooifthiof^ in it tied up In a rog.
Says he, * Honest frii'ndi whal*4t thou got in the hagf*'
Derry down, *tc.
•* * D<air friend/ replied George, ♦ it is God'* holy word.
It h Holy Scripture Tve got from the Lord j
For when I'm ulonc, O I cannot Lc idle,
I makes it aiy pleasure to rend at the Bible.'
Durr^' down^ &C.
** *Thcn pnll out thv Bible." thii^i f;o*n\ m»m replied,
*Or ilse, by the ilivel, IJl Bible thy hide;
VU tiible thee, as tbou ne'er wft*t in tliy life.
Fur thy Bibk u Iwcon thou'it got fruiu my wife.'
Derry down, ic.
' ** George shuffled about, At length Bible pulled oat,
A great Alice of bacon Inpped up in a ctout ;
On he took to his ht^Js, for he ^orst not l>« idle,
And aever since that ttme he's preadied 'boat the Bible,
Derry down, <fcc,
" Now oome honest fellow*, who lead happy lives,
I'd hiive yon take care of your bacoo *ud wiven ;
For littvo you a $^ood tiitob, ^rcat care wi.U be tnken.
They'll preach like the d^UI, where iit«re'« pWuty of
bac«u. Derry down, 4tu."
F. c. a
I J. T. F. finds that this song is more comm to
hfid anticlpjted, and therefore we content ■ v-
sclectiu^ the above verajon frum those kindly . -^^J
by our correspondenta* The Min^ would appear at timea
to have tteen In aie both hy Koman Catbuiica and Pro-
teatanta, and, of course, with ttudi variationa aa to Boit
the re^uicemeala of both parties.— Ed. j
ABEC&ETTS MCEUEREHS: S01CKB9ETSHIKE
TKADITIDKa
(4* S. VU. 33.)
There h a very intei-e»ting paper on the murder
of St* Tliornaa of Canterbury in the Quarterly
litiieWf No. 186, Sept. 185;J. It is there atated
that tbe four kiiightji on the night of the dead
rode to Sultwood, leaving Robert de Droc in poa-
aeasion of tbe palace, and ultimately proceeded to
Kuare» borough CoAtla, a royal fortreaa in ths
posfiession of Hugh de Moreville, where they
remained for a year. Of course various legencfa
were circulated, such as that dogs refused to eat
the crumba which fell from their table. It ia
said that they went to Rouie to receive the den-
tence of Alexander HI>, and were aent by him to
expiate their siua in the Holy Ijiod* Tbe legend
states that Moreville, Fitzurse, and Brito died
there, and were buried in front of the church of
the Holy Sepulchre. Other accounta atate that
they were interred in front of the church of
Montenegro. The reviewer wonders what tbe
church cflhe Black Mvuniain tttivma-wv, *avV\a
iiupodslbie they couVd \xi\\^ Weix Wxv^^iWWcfeX*
172
KOTES AND QUERIES,
ti«»»S.VILFEB.f5.7L
chuicE of the Holj Sepulchre, as it liaa been a
ftquare of puWic resort. Could the churcli of
IjlaDtony at Ike foot of the Black Mountains in
the Vale of Ewiaa be meant? It was built hy
Hugh de Lacie» a Norman baron, between 1108
and 1 11 o, for forty Anguatine fnara. Tmcy, who
Mtnick the first blow, was aeized with a dreadful
djaorder at Coaenza in Apuliit, and there died in
torment. It is said the wind had been alwaya
contraiT when be wished to embark, giving rise
to the Glouceatershir© diatich : —
•' The Tfuceya
Have alwijB the wind in their facet."
Fosses Jufi^Sf i 279,
The reTiewer points out that the legend could
pot have been true, as Moreville, who had been
justice itinerant for Northumberland and Cumber-
Jjind at the time of the murder, though diamisaed
from his oHice the ensuing jjear^ in the firat jear
of John 13 recorded as paving twenty-five marks
and three palfreys for hohliog his court so long as
his wife eon tinned in a secular habit Camden
saya the a word he uaed at the murder was pre*
served in the reign of Elizabeth, and is now said
to be attached to bis statue at Brayton Caatle.
Tracy was, within four years from the murder,
Justiciary of Normandy, and was present at Fulaise
m 1174 wben the King of Scotland did homage to
Henry 11. Eisdon, in bia Sun^tttf of Decon^ ^42,
saya rracy
"witlidrefT himaelf hither (to Morthwe, Devon) mM\
spent Ihe remnindfr of his lift » anJ lieth t>iiricd in nn
ilste ©f tUw chnrrh» by him bnilt^ under an erected
monnmpnt, with his portrailnre engraven on a grej
morbte itone," &e»
I have examined this tomb, and it app^'ars pro-
bable that the slab of the tomb belongs to Sir
William Tracy's tomb of the twelfth centuiy, and
the sides to that of William TracVi rector of
Morthoe, who founded a chantry in the church iu
Risdon saya Sir William Tracy left a daughter^
who was married to Sir Gervaise CourtneVi nod
their son Willinm resumed the name of ^racy*
He it wa??, I believe, who founded the priory of
Woodspring on the banks of the Bristol Channel,
in honour of the Trinity, the B. V. M., and St
Thomas of Canterburj^ (CoUinson's Soiumtet, in,
514)» And this is the foundation probnbly for
the Somereets'hire tradition mentioned by your
correspondent.
FitKurse ia said to have gone over to Ireland,
and there to have become the ancestor of the
McMahon family, the latter name being the
Celtic translation of Bears son. He gave bis
estate of Willeton in Honiersetshire, half to the
Knights of St. John, and half t^ his brother
Robert (Collinson, iii. G14). In the neigbbour-
Mood the name degenemted into FitEonrt Fiahour,
And Fisher, The fnmilv of Bret or Brito vaa
carried on througb his daughter Maud, who gate
lands to the priory of St Thomas at Woodspring,;
John Piggott, Jitk., F.S.A,
I cannot give your correspondent any definite in
' formation respecting the three ** unknown paves*
' on the Flat Holms ; but I have myself visited
I remains of Woodspring Priory, whicU is dtuataj
about three miles from Weeton'Super-Mara.
There is^ I believe, but little doubt that the
tradition which ascribes the foundation of this
monastery to Filzurae, one of the mnrderera of
A^Beckett, is authentic. C. Rcscombe Po
Cinnington, Bridgwater.
?0Q^^^
sd
I
to
tba
se,^|
»e o(^
Ladt GEiMSTOif'fi Gbavb in Tkwik Ciiu&cn-
TARB (A^^ S. vii. 76, 128.)— I do not believe that
there ia the slightest foundation for the legend
which you have printed about Lady Anne Grim<
ston to be found m the character of that lady.
It is ditlicult at such a distance of time
show what were her opinions, but I have sufficlnifc
evidence to make me believe Lady Anno Gnm*
ston was a religious woman.
In the first place, she gave fifty pounds to
HaW Grammar School at Hertford, where Iha
uae of the Catecbism of the Church of Engl
is imperative.
Secondly, there is eridence of the purchase,^ ^
presume by her orders, of Usher* s ^w/y of IHcim]
tiit^f his JSermotUf and his Life^ for the use oT
Miss Elizabeth Grimston, Sir S. Grimston*s daugb^
ter by hia first wife. And, lastly, I have soma
ftccounta for the years 1662, 1683, 1084, vouched
by Lady Anne Grimston (A. G.), containinr
charges both in London, at St. Ann's, Soho,
in the country at St Michaers, St. Albans. f<
setting up the horses during chuicb on Sunaa;
Our church at St Michaers ia ao far from G^
I hambury that we are obliged to have horses out
I Sundays, and I have an account similai' to '
Samuel Grimston^a in my house books,
I Xmblvum,
GorhanibDry.
Besides this case of Tewin churchyard, there
are other places near London where large masai^
tombs of the eighteenth century have had the
masonry displaced, and their iron railings broke
or absorbed by the growth of elm or aah-trM'
planted around the grave. One such instance *
know of in the churchyard of Peri vale in Mid-
dlesex; another in Hertfordshire at Aldenham:
and both these are very etrikinp-. A less remark-
able case occurs in the be*iutifal churchyard of
Chialehurst. A, J, M.
MuEAL Paintiwo IK Stabstoit CntJBCK, NoB'
yoLK (4*" S. vi. 542, 577 j vii, 40.)— Your correspoa-
\ devit F . C . W .^vx \\\«i\«j«WT^fex^,xvce, in regard to this
?re
■l*&Vn. Feu. 25. T 1.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
173
vmoe
pietttie 6ayd: '*Two aogeld are cuTtying up her
tool (i.e. VirgiQ Mary) to Leiiven : no such pre-
Bomption of immediate beatitude could havo been
entertained of tmy ordiiittry individual, however
ennobled by worldly honours.'*
It id very dangerous to dog-matise on tnedlsBval
irt without a very ex tens! ?e Bcquumtauce with it.
F. C, 11. is in error. On monuments this is of
flommoQ occurrence. There ia the littUi brass to
t Be&uchanap in Chekcudon church, Oxfurddiire,
where the very design itself is two angeU beariug
»waj the soul The same may be aeon also on the
brtia of Sir Hugh Hastings at Elain^iD Norfolkjaod
i long list could easily be made. Then in Flemiah
hfMWMij what more common than to represent the
Nwl in *'Abniham*« bosom," io which " beatitude'*
•eems accomplished P Neither is tlm art at all in
dSseord with church teachings in the Middle Ages.
fa the *' Dialogues of St. Gregory,'* where the
alSee of the angel is defined, after speaking of the
conveying their souls to Purgatory, in
there is still some ein unexpiated left, it
ludeft, '*But if, indeed, he departed in so
Boch chanty that all the rust of ^in was consumed,
•0 that nothing purgeable remained, immedifdchj
tbe holj angels r^cc^ived him and carried him to
tile kingdom of heaven.*'
Hot having the drawing before me cannot
^«ik with cert&intv of ita details ; but if I re-
Bianber rightly, neither the £gure of the dying
1ady,nor of those about her, nor of the aoul above,
We the nimhrn. This of itself ie a fata! objec-
tiooto its representing the ** Death of the Virgin.'*
MAt«OTer| the figures show a number of tonsured
li^s — monks in fact — and one in a cope holds a
ihield of arms, the arms of the Abbey oc I^awtrey,
M F, C. H. thinks. But the latter expresses his
r* ioD that the arm^ are of iio importmice. To
I must observe, that in medisoval art every
4ettti ia of importance.
The Apostles^ who $/totdd he at the bedside of
flj« Virgin Mary, are no/ represented tonsured, St,
ftrtir excepted ; nor is the general character of the
compotttion that of the aubject which your corre-
fQQde&t maintains.
Tbe arms are a very important feature, and I
Wiere a key to the whole. The bedside shows a
^p of monks, headed by their abbot or prior,
iCope» holding before the dyin^ lady a coat of
Ba, probably of their abbey. If the death-bed
0( i MefactresB, what mono natural than for her
to be leminded of her charity by tho^e benefitin.<?j
^^ tile same time showing her the aid she had in
jw pmyers to forward her to the kingdom of
Jeireo ? The painting- merely shows *' that slie
^,«pirted in so ranch charity Ih at all the rust of
aji was consumed/' ^ I J. G. Walter,
PflKiUiiT OF John Kjlt (4'^ S. vii. 142.)— I
H?e the portrait of John Kay, of Bury, ralJuded
to by Mr. Woodcroft, but it is nnluckily pasted
fiist in my portfolio. I have also another litho-
graphed portrait of him, but without name of
artist or publitjher, imle.*a the signature ** D. F.
Prestolee may refer to one of tbem. I have also
a folio sheet of letterpress, containing ** A Brief
Memoir of John Kiiy " on one page, and the pedi-
irrees of Kaye of Wood some and Greenbalgh of
Brandle?ome on the other, with a shield of armAJ
of twenty quarterings, &c. &c. on the other,'^
? Tinted by F. Grant, Market Street, Manchester*
regret that the above cannot be lent to accom-
modate Mr. Woodchoft^ but I enclose my card,
in case he Unda it necessary to consult them.
M.D-
"Tflorse lost to Siget, to Memory drar"'^^
(!•* S. iv. 4m ; 3'* S, vL 120, viii. 290; A^^ S. I
77, 161, iv. 31>9, vii. 66.)— Though unable to give
any information as to the authorship of thia well-
wom quotation, I can s^ifely aver that it is muck
older than 1828, as I knew it many yeara before ^
that date. F. C. H.
[It wfluTi! ftpfwar to l>c utterly imposnble to trace the
origin of this line.]
The pRONtJNCiATioN or Greek and Latdt
(4*" S. vii. 13r) — As a discussion of this query
sufficiently ample to be at all satisfactory, would
most likely require more apace than the Editor
could conveniently snare, let me refer Makro-
ciiEiR to chap. Til. of Donaldson's Vammtanus on ]
the '' Organic Classification of the Original Latin
Alphabet." EnMrau xiw, M.A.
Patching Rectory.
Some eminent schoolmasters arc engaged in
considering this matter. Let me bring to their
notice a poem in All the Year Round (Jan, 21,
1871), on Frederick the Great, entitled **Fredericua
Rex." It is said to bo a favourite song in the
Prussian camp. The translator, however, on all
three occasions on which he has to use the words^
makes them scan Fredeiicua Rex. Surely the
Great Frederick never had such short work made
of him before. T. Lewis 0. Davies,
The Irish Planxty : "Bumper S<iuirr
Jones" (4*^ S. vi. 300, 512 j vii. 42.)— A Uttle
contribution oti this aubject may possibly have a
claim for insertion. It is a Quotation from The
Nuiional Music of Ireland* ^ by Michael M. Conran,
1846): —
** Of time, there were aJx kinds :— * the trebly rapiJ,*
the jig planxtif^ and fettive^ dirge or lamientation, witli
words; bold» heroic, m«rti»J ; * tempo ordinario ;* Umaota-
* Conld anvone possessing a perfect copy of this work
oblifjo me with a copy of the ime-pii£:c ? [«The National
Music of Irelnntl, eontainmg the Histoiy of the Irish
Bards* the National Mi;lodk«, the Harp, and other Mn-
sical InitrumeiitsofErin. Bv Michael Conran, Orffaont,
8t. Patrick's Church, Man^'Eieister. Dublin: Published
for the Author by James Duffy, 10, WdUn^t«a-Qjia^^
me."]
174
NOTES AND QUERIES.
tioD-^muiricAl <1irjgos with worda*; phurt or Icsa^oa liaxA
— pr»cticAl exerci^teft.'" — P. 90,
Ab I understand this sentence it eeems tliat tbe
pktnxi^ Wftd performed in a ** time " much quicker
than that of a bold, heroic, or mfirlinl air. if this
be trcie^ and if, as D&, liiM^AULX sayn^ the planxty
^'owes its origin to the celebrated IrisQ bard
Carolan'' C'N. & Q." 4^'» S. vi. i>12), it would
appear that the earlier part of The Knigiit of
Lfi3iiovvEX*8 communication was written undtjt
a wroQg impreasion as to the species of ai; and its
antiqiiitj.
Aa apiopoa of this subject, 1 give another quo-
tation from the same S'ational Mtisic of Ireland^
having- reference to what is therein callvd one of
Carolao s ** most playful planxtieaj* vi«,, ** A
bumper Squire Jones : —
**Tlie words . , . have bflen parffphrased Hr the
taleoted Baron Dawsonf, uud Cnroliin'd bnlUuntcfTnittoiia
jU-e \mi in the dolcadour uf thu facetious buronV tuiJU'-
tion/*— P. 2lU
Querj: (!.) ^hero can "the facetious baron^s
imitation'' be found? (as only two verses axe given
bj my authort) ; or (3) does he mean that Caro-
lan's lines are forgotten, unrecorded, and that the
paraphrnee only exists ?
The following planxties will bo found in No, 4iJ
of ChnppeU'a musical Mitf/azutc J Rt the pages I
give: '' Planxty Dudley/' p. (J, *' Plnnxty KeUy,"
p. 8; '* Planxty Irwine," p. 18, and "Planxty
Connor," p. 2L They may be of interest to some
of your correspond euts. Til0M:i8 TuirLYj Juar,
Brought on^ Manchester.
Moore's beautiful funereal Hues —
** Oh, htmquet not in the festal bowerf," &e*
are set in his Irish Melodit$ to '* Planxty Irwin."
I confeM, however, the air has always appeared to
me too jojoua for the words, P. P.
JIet. Samfel Hkxlkt (4^'* S. vii. 35, 113.)—
Mr. Towxshb5b Matkr will lind an ample ac-
count of Pr. Siitnuel Ilenley, the translator of
VtU/ichf in Nichols's UlmtrntionA of Liter art/ His-
tory^ iii. 750-05 ; viii, 334. W, P. CottetxeT.
4, Fowiij Place, W.C.
DR.\G07r {A}^ S. vii. 12, P.*5.)— The real dragon
is the Greek draco, which has no feet, aud is, I
believe, what is now called the hoa-consti-ictor.
(See Dioscorides,) Tnos. PHtLiirPB.
Fishermen in the Oldkn Time {V^ S, vi.
568.) — Andrew Borde, a *' native," received his
, manumission in the year 1610 from George
• Thi» seems to he a repetition.
+ Exchei|aer of Ireland, temp. Qu«ea Anno. •
[$ Huron Andrew DiiwAitn*s verainn i« printCHl in The
Ne$c Irink Soutf-Bimkt edited by J. E. Cjirpeutcr. Loiid
1^G7, p, IKK— Kn.]
§ TUi* jiMigaaine, by the ir«y, u edited hv Dr. liim-
Neville, Lord of Berg^venny, who owned Iba
manor of Dychehnag in Sa.«isex, to whkh di^mua
the said '-native'" belonged. Possibly T, Q. C,
remembers something about this case; it » '
latest instance of slavery I have read of. I hn
heard nothing of the Su.
to snpp'ise they were
corafmred with the re^t (eMfpi n
nearly all btdun^ed to the Cinqu«'
a stitf-backed lot.
HoLTT, THK GEHaiAN PoET (4**' S. vL ITT,
288.) — ^There are translations — or perha|i« ptn-
pbraaes would be the better word — of aewmof
Ilblty's poems in the Dnhlin UmciTitiit/ Mngssim
for 1837-8. The translator was Jjuucs Clareatw
Mangan, the gifted and ill-fnted. D« BiJkis*
Melbunrne.
Hampj^hibk Cottktby CnrnniiVAito: Phivm
Diary (4^'' S. vi. i\) — The aUnwiMi m Pepy* h
clearly to the churchyard of Tichfiekl, where th«
remains of the fine castle of the Earls of Sootk*
ampton are still to be seen. It strikes me, it
twenty years' distance in tioie, that aage giew
abundantly in the churchyard when I knew it.
D. BLilB.
Melbourne.
TTMOTtir Dkxter (4*»* S. tI. Mi5.> — ••liWd
Timothy Dexter/' so called, resided in NewtjUfV-
port, Essex co., Ma^., forty miles north-t-a-t i
Boston, on the coast, ffjr many years in a lav^
brick house, which in his lifetime was surrtvun^^J
with many carved wooden images or -♦• * i
more than life size* The house I bav^
times. J, \\ . - — -
Pesbody, Masi-* U.S.A.
&)^' Galimatias ^ (4**' S. iv. 294.)— This worduM
certainly iwt coined by Fielding. Noel et Chiipdl
moiit correctly define it thus: " Me'lauge confw
de mots qui seiublent dire quelque ohosd et nVx^
point de sens,'*
They do not, however, give the folio viji/
account of the word, which I mot with mm,^
years ago — so many, that my memory treacbei u ' v
declines telling me whtre. In those olden Jiai^^
when the ''dootoraa" argued points of law ia
I^atiu, a learued (?) counsellor, while staling tlie
case of his client Matthias and a cock (wbi'li
E^rtained unto him), grew so conf»tsed iii lii^
atinity, thf\t, after a while, he c^'nsed to sp< a* o[
*'Gallua Mattbiao," but, contrariwi.-^e, of *MT-iUi
Matthias." Hence a sensele.is and innc -
jumble of words came to be styled '* Galiiu
NOKLL ItAnECLlLLi-
SAAtiBRUCE Custom (4**'S. vi. 477: vll. MCi
The custom alluded to by Mb. Ti
observed in many parts of Ley Ian
Amounderneaa (in I^ncashire). In my -
of Goomaryh^ I have a notice of it^ In lu
^'^'iu,W5)W.St^t)UA5^;W4r^^^^'^\^OS^
4«»S.TIL Feo,2&, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
175
trict the eve of M/iy 1 10 called ** Mav Bough so predominflut as in Scotland, titular desig-
Night," and I pre the foltovHn^ as a sample of | nations were coveted. The farmer was &t church
the emhlerontic' meaning attached to the various I ^nd market saluted hy the name of hia farm, and
I
trees: — A wickin (i,e. a moant^iu a'^h)=My dear
chicken ; a platn tree in bloom=to br» mamed
and aeon ; a briar=a liar. IL FisnwicK.
I liare known Lev land above fifty years, and
my father, a noticer of old customs, must have
known it nearly fifty years before that, hut I liave
turrer «*en or heard of such a custom us Mr. Tully
meationd, and I therefore conclude he is mistaken
as to tV ' ^ ^:ty. May day ia observed in Ley-
land h ingofthe trii^t'^es of an important
dbarit>» <.i. . ^.itf children attend church, lloyal
Oak day, the 2Dth of May, id alao a great dav in
Leyland, f'*^ fl-^^ rlnlisaad benefit aocieties hold
their annui ipnn it. On Wbit Monday
the Scindav . march with garlands upon
wanda provided by ladies who take an interest in
Ihem ; but the answer to Mu. TuLtY^s queries i^
Kmnly tbat no auch custom is known. Tbe re*
inarkg ab'uit Lichlield seem to refer to the ** walk-
in^ the boundaries/* which waa practised in many
plaoea at Ko^'ation tide and on A^cen^on day.
Ajf Old Inhaditaxt.
Tttr Apor^rrpMT! (4**" S. vl I06,) — For a
pnmmary of Evvftld*)* views on the Revelationt
F. M. S. shrmli? i'MiMiitt Auherlen'fl masterly work
cm Tht Vi 'f Darnel and the Revelafum
vf Si, Jofif^ led bv Ado]ph 8aphir, and
?'iiblished by T. & T. Clark, Edinburgh, 1^56.
6 TO© thb remarkable volume m itself an Apoca-
Ijriae, D. HLAin.
Mdbovnie.
Caliban (4"' S. vii. ^tX)— Surely this word is
a mere nif^athesir^ of cmmibal, like IJen Jonson's
BobadU from BoabdiL MAKdocEEm.
Who is a LAmn? (4^^ S. vI. 482; vii. 12.)—
Jhb qtiery of C. S. K. is an interesting one. The
lairdwti» ori^nally a feudal baron, and as aucb
*H domintiM. But in process of time the de-
iTT' '* if lr*rd or laird was applied not to
f of barouip?* only, btit to landowners
J? i hi ths Scottish *' inqui«itions/' ffnminu«
itv- r t ; proc+^dea a oame which has portiouariif'^
•f(* : :* 1 hr^t pnrti'iners of land ai'e ordinarily
»Jtj 1 /! , d<' -i it admit of any doubt lii
til. s, jr; . -. ^■. ":. '..r^?^ nT >^t Ain'lrews certain
^ :u-i..-:; -;• ! >, Armit, and
"\T,ji>. — '^_r-' ^ , tbe heads of
famiii/*? have from time immemorial been
PmM as Uh
'laaxp, but
nMehhad
^^.
liBMlJ In a
Porticners were not necessarily
liolder^ of pitrtionn of Utnd
* thf^ chtin h or tbe feudal
'ken up and
-». (Btll ,Sr
— h,
the own»jr of only a few acres was hailed as '* the
laird.'' In old times there waa hardly any other
designation for a gentleman ; ho was dominus —
ho bore dominion. Tbe title niaM^ haa an aca-
demic origin. A graduate in arts was styled
** master/' and no other. Afterwards the paro-
chial clergy were so designated out of respect for
their ofEce. Latterly, mtider became the title of
a gpcntleman. The Scottish schoolmaster was am-
ciently, in respect for bis learning, styled dtmimi^.
As university training became more common
amon<^ Scottish teachers they claimed maater aa
a higher title.
Territorial desJnmations in Scotland do not cease
even when the lands with whicli they are con-
nected are alienated. Thus we have l^rd Col-
villo of Culrosa. My late friend, Sir Jamea
Mentetb, Burt., claimed the designation ** of
Cloaehura,*' when no lon^rer proprietor of that
estate, And my relative, Sir John Ogilvy, Bart,
M.P. for Dundee, is still designated **o'f Inver-
qnharity,^' though Inverquharity estate long since
pa8S4^d iu to tbe hands of the Lyells of Kinnordy.
Were I personally ambitious of constituting a aept^
I might, without presumption^ designate myself
" of Coupar-Q range,** though my ancestor was of
that estate a portioner only, and though that por-
tion has long been aliensited.
Ohaeliw Rooeeii, LL.D.
Suowdoun Villa, Lcwisham, 8.E.
Old Sandoww Castle, Islk of Wight (4*'' S*
vU W*}\ vii. lOJl.) — The last remainder of San-
down Castle, which for many years was used as
an office by the Royal Eogineers' department,
was removed in 1809-70 to make room for workij
connected with the national defences of the Isle 1
Wight A very tine old carved oak chimney-pieofti
contaiuiiig many armorial hearings remained tol
the last, tknd is, I believe, still preserved in the oldj
material store of the Royal Engineers at Sando^
from whence, no doubt, when the latter receiTO
its annual clearing, it will be sold for firewood 1
the ensuing auction, unle^ some antiquarian mu-
seum put in "a claim for it. H. H,
rortcmoutb.
SifTJTH (4**» S. vi. 474 ; vii. 43.)-"I haye
** Smith " in every age since the Conquest spelle
SmythCt Smithe, Smyth, and Smith, in the
arbitrary fashion as any other name, but 1
before the eighteenth century (towards the mid-
dle) have ohseryed it spelled **Smijth." This
cannot be a dotted //, because no y in any other
name or word appears, so far as 1 remember, so
diFtinguiflbed. I should think by the ancient
short and lonjr ij a double dotted it was intended —
Smiith ; yet it is very curious and ine^Ucahle^
that this 'mode should" have sprung u^ m^s
in
KOTKS AND QUERIES,
[4««&.TII. Fiai.i^7l
part of tbe country ftt a certain pencnil, and for a
very few yeoTa, nnd tlien dii^appeAred for ever ; nnd
not tbe lenst curious^ per Imps, that the fasbion
flbould bftve been exclusively confined to church
registers (?). Perhnpa in thid circumstnnce a
solution of tbo diflkulty may be found nt tbe
bands of some of your more ancient clerical
correspondents. Possibly M. D. is correct as
to tbe analogy to Ffofiott and Ffaring-ton— an
orthograpbY origiuRting in the absurd mistikesof
printers — tte doiiblG araaliy (Jf) being uspd in old
times in lieu of the capitaX and Btill employed in
the law, jus^t as tbe old liloman numerals with
their final lonjr/a are in physic. 1\ IIel^bt.
15, York Chamberi, KingStrwt, Monchealer.
Notwithstanding the statement in Burke*s TVr-
n/f and Bat'otiet4iye^ that ** tbu pntriarcb of this
family (the spelliuR' of wbnse surname i» nf
rare occurrence in England) was *' John Smijth^
Esq,/* wbo lived tfmp. Henry VIIL, 1 incline to
the opinion that the name, after ail, ia really but
Smith and Smyth, In former tltk^^ I find it
uaual for mayors of this town to write after
their names " Maior/' and frfquentlv tb© l^atin
" Major." The official in 1714 writes *^ Maijor,'*
wbicti may be reaii either as Maijor, or, with a
dotted y, Mayor. It is easy to see from thij? how,
At the trifling cost of two Jots, Smyth could be-
come Smijth. CuiEL£a Jacksoit.
Doncofitcr.
I notice that Sp, connider.^ the modern name
Sraijtb to be an ortho^aphieal error^ havinof for
ita foundation an ancient method of dimblc-
dotting a f/^ thus y. There ia an old and common
family name of Sp.*3 which often appears in pedi-
grees of families with whom Sp.'s have inter*
married: 1 mean **Obiit,*' spelled also innldMSS,
Obijt, thus reveraing tbe cnronological change in
Smijth* Can Sp. tell whether this name was ever
spelled Obyt, with a dotted y F U N. 0,N.
ni:!^TS TO CnAniMKX (4*^ S. vii. 5-1) — Mr,
Ethogham Wilson has published a shilling hand-
book on tbe management of public meetings.
J. L. C.
QuETiy ELrxABETH: Rkal Peksons jx "The
Faerie Queen" (4*" S. vii. 4^)— 1 will not
question Mb, Kbiohtlet's judgment in nssign-
ing Tea! neraons to the names in Speoser^s poem.
The whola tenor of the poem is what would be
natural in the work of such a man aa we know
Spenser to have been. But I wish to draw atten-
tion io a nassage which Mr. Keightlett seem^a
to me to nave written without sufficiently con-
sidering material;^ within his reach :-^
** I find, by the way, tint there nre p<^i7tons ivho
would sacrifice hktoric truib lo ftiLic ddicjicy, ami who
blame me and otbera for viadicatJUfT the fair fnsne of the
f;nMit quc«n from the fuiil aspersions m( Dr. Lii^^jird aud
in MotboHtiv, even though jiomcwUat it the expense gf
I do not know who tbe perwns are t>f
Mb. Keiohtlky U speakings nor do 1 '
the contrast suggested by defending h<
"at the expense of her heroism.*' But the fi
fame of EliKabeth is a thing in which nrobabl
few peisons Have now any belief. In her own'
day it scenis that fewer still, if any, would hafe
believed her to have deserved what w« mean "
** fair fame *' ; and I beg to point out to Mi
Kekuitlkt that the convenient summary of '^ tl
foul tt-*pereioE8 of Dr Lingard and his authon-
ties '* does not approach the question as it noi
ftands, and therefore does no good to tbe mem*
of Klizabt tb.
An article in the StiUodrnj Jictiew of Jan.
1^71, heacIM ** Ufilendar of State Papers,^
show Mr. Krightlet what is tbe state of
opinion. And if it is still bis pleasure to desci
a generally accepted view of her character
; ** foul aspersions," he must include the documi
I at Simancas and English State Papers m bis (
I dera nation, D. P^
I Smarts Loclg*', Malvern Wells-
I Ballasallet (4*'' S. vi. 475, 583,WPo8ai]
some member of tbe Manx Society, aided byl(
I history or tradition, may be able to atibrd
in form at inn required. In the ujeantime, I woi
suggest that the name may jjossjhly have tbe '
I lowing, one or other, dcrivittion : 1. Balia (t~
I SaaiUetf (brine); 2, BaUa (town), S'mUff!
' beautiful) ; 8. Baila (town), Salletf (salti
Bfilla (town) f Soi/Ht^ (enjoyment).
There are other words more or leas proii
allied, or related to the above ; but potdbly thi
now adduced may be sufficient to point to tW
correct meaning and derivatioutl
2, 4. If the locality was selected as tbe si It of
a monastery, on account of its delightful sod
enjoyjihle position, then 2 and 4 show probabihi
of derivation.
1, 3. If the locality was a fish-curing station,
d^p6t for salt| &c.j then 1 and 3 point to the d<
vation.
3. But, if literal construction is to dedde ih*
derivation, then .% BfiUn <Sa//ry = salting-town =
town of salting, is conclusive. J, BJU1.&
SiGNiTARY A?rn SioyATABiE** (4^** S, vl 5W;
Tji. 44.)— Both these words are spelt wpjoglj-
Signatory is the right sp piling, from stffnator^*
signer or sealer. It is a word commonlv used bj
writers on diplomacy ; through tbe Italian \i
would run most readily into this meaning, onlj
the * would in English revert to the iitin t-
Sifjnaton/^ even in Webster*s Dictionary^ is onlf
p-iven as an obsolete adjective from the L^tin
mf/natoriu« :== used to seal with, SifffMtunM is a quii»*
d liferent word, and signifies a pbyaiogfioniiiftr
whose science interprets inbides from outsides
all created things bt*ing s apprised by such pro-
i C^t^oia to carry imprinted upon them their Makar'l
iTe
tad
ditf ■
i
tilt 1
l«iS. Vn. Fui.25,'7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
177
inteatioD, m wax coirespooda to the signet As-
tlljr ttus is not what diplomatists intend by
f ; for whatever sign they put forth ia to
! inttjrpreted by its contrary* 0. A. W.
May F*ir.
This word is simply barbarous. Yoii itiigbt as
well write amUan/ for atnaiory* Mr, Tilbnch
will find m*jnatwry in Richardson.
"MiMALS AD UsrM Sarum" (4'" S. vl43a
558; Tli, C4.)— F. C, H, 8Ugge»tnh«t the date of
A MS. maybe ascertained by means of tho date on
which Easter Day falls. The same idea occurred
to me 5*^ mo time ago j but as every MS. caileiidiir
which I have since examined places Easter l>.\y
on March 27, I have come to the conclusion that
it WM conventionally placed on that day, in which
Cite the above theory of course falls to the
gtomid- F. H. n.
Frahcis, Earl of BoTHWKLt (4*** S. vi, 422 ;
Tii, 62.) — ^Dr. Ramage is quite right, atid the
date stated by me was wrong. I took it from a
Botioe (in No. xix- of the J lor aid and Geneahgid^
pt 19) of a seal of this earl, figured in the lirat
lenea of Lainff*§ Scotlish Seals. The creation cer-
tainly took pTace before December 10, 15S5, on
whicli day Francis, Earl of Both well, a? h**re-
ditary admiral of Scotland, is found taking pre-
cedence in voting, of Francis, Earl of Errul, the
hereditary constable. See Acts &/ the Scottiith
PatHam^nif vol. iii. p. 375 (cited ia HiddeU^s
Atfnt^ Law, vol, i. p. 16tJ). As Jwnuary then
JbUowed December in the calendar, this tran^ac-
Ikm occurred more than a mouth before the ditto
of Boib weirs charter, quoted by Dr. Ramaoe. It
il eertainly curious to hnd him dealinfr vdth the
titk-huida of Olosebnm, but strange thing'^ bap-
ptQod in tho^e days of tulchan bishops and lay
ibbota. I hope some one will clear up the mys-
Itry aliont his brother- germ an Hercules Scott,
Hid how the latter came by his Bumame.
The magnificent remains of Cricbton Castle still
ifcfceat tlie power and dignity of his ancestors— t ho
Bephigrna— whose devices, anchors and cordage,
ilaigh admirals of Scotland, are traceable, carved
aalOD6y on various parts of the ruins.
Anglo-Scotcs.
Parot^ics (4'* 8, vi. 47G; vii. 15, 105.>— There
*» two very good parodies in Tom Hood's An-
«4«f for isfi : one is of Tennyson's " Clara Vere
^ Vftfep" the other of Longfellow's ** Norman
B«?oo." Can any of your readers inform me of a
ocwitpl«te parody on S'hftkespeare*s ^awi/ci^ 1 am
k»ld that sucb a thing exists. J. C* T, Hall,
The Poeiic Mirror ; or the Livmg Bards f>f
^ritmn, Ixjngmaiis, 181(5. This is reviewed, and
tom# extracts given in the Quarterly Jlcmcw^
^«* ixx. Reference is also made to two articles
on Parodies, in No. xr. I have not that number
at hand, but probably it contains further informa-
tion on the subject. T. TjEWIS 0. Davies.
Pe^r Tree Vicaragt% South ampt on,
I have a copy of The Poetic Mirror r or the
Living Bards of Britain ^ second edition, published
by Longman 9, 1817 : which contains parodies of
Byron, Scott, Wordsworth, Hogg, Coleridge^
Sou they, and Wilson. Before it came into my
possesion some one had written on the title*page^
*' by James Hogg, the Ettrick Shepherd.'*
R. R.
Boston.
Among the book? of parodies and imitations in
my posses^tion, of which I gave a li^t at p. 15, I
find that I accidentally missed one, the title of
which I now subjoin i —
"Riv«l Rhvmoa in Hnnour of Biimi. With curious
Illiiatratlve Matter, Callocted and Edit«i byBenTro-
vato/' Loadua (UoutMgi;), small 8va, I8ii9.
William Bates.
Uiniiiii|;ham.
Lkviwkll (3*'* S. X, 508 ; xi. 65, 284, 483 ; xii.
402.) — Mr, Skeat says he does not rt member this
word elsewhere than in the two Cbauceriaa
passages and in the Prumplorium, I have just
come upon it in the Antttrn of Arther in Rohson's
Three Metnctd Romance f^ (Camden Society) \
and, as the kd/a set is there described with much,
clearness, I think the lines are worth quoting in
" N. & Q/'—
** By a launeT ho hiy, vndiir a lefe aiile,
Of box Slid of barbeH't hyggyt ful hene/'
Stanza 6.
Htdliwell quotes fevesek from Occleve, in con-
nection with the tavern. Chatterton seems to use
the word correctly in the two instances I re-
member r —
•* As Etynour bie the green leaselk was syttyupv.'*
*' No mo« the amblyn^ palfrie and the homo
Shall from the lesid rou^e the foxc awale."
Elinoitre and Jugeu
I find no difficulty in the levegselle of the tavern.
Such arbours are common enough in suburbs and
country at the present day, JoiiK AitDis.
Bkautt but Skin-deep (4** S. il 204.) — This
may he found in lialph Venning^s Orthodoxe Para-
dose*^ third edition, L(*adon, 1050, p. 41 : —
*'All the bfjiulv of the world 'tis but skia-deep, a
Minne- blast dcfrtcelh iu*'
W. C. B.
The Hon. Cathrrinb SouTnooa^ (4**» S. vi*
I 54Ct; vii. 64,) — She wa** the youngest daughter of
William, second Baron Widdnngton (who died in
l(J7G), and married Edward (or Edmund) South-
cote, of BIy borough p co. Lincoln, Esq. She died
at Cambray. in Flanders, in 1758, as appears from
the Gentleman' » Afagazine (xxviii. 29*2), ^Vi«c^\v^
1Y8
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4"'a.TU.r*B.25k'7l|i
L
ItuflVand 8 Christiiin name h aaid to hhve been
EdmnDd. The fourth Lord WiddringtoD and Ha
bralheia were out in 1715 io fiirour of the StiiartB,
ADd were tried and coQvicted of hi^^h treaaon.
They were however pardoQed, but the bwroay
and biioaetcy were forfeited. See I'He P$erag§
cf England (2iid ed. 1716) and Buxke's Ej^nd
On the floor of the north aisle of Blvbomugb
church 18 a atone "To the memory of Dorothy,
wile of Edmund Soutbcote, who died in 1714,
Hged Bixty/* The persona hcr^ mentioned were
mobably the parents of the hnsband of the Hon.
Catherine Southcote, and the fallowing her Ltia-
band: — By the side of the above tomb is a alab
to the memory of Edmund Soathcote, Esq., who
died in 1725^ a^^d forty-tive. See A Iliitun/ vf
the Cmtniij of Lincoln, 4to, 1838 (L 30). E. V.
" HiLABroN*s Servant, the Saqk Crow *' (4*'*
S. vii. 11, 112.)^ — I possess an old volume lettered
on the back Lives of the SainUj going very minutely
into all their miracles and supernatural duings,
Hilariott Abbot among the rest; but although
13 pages are devoted to him, there is notliiuji; to
support Vaughau*s allusion to him and the crow.
Your oofreapondeut F. C. H. suggests a mistake
of Uilarion for Paul^ which aends me back to mj
Lt'^enda Aurea, where I liiid under *' The Life of
St. Paule the Urst Ilermite/* that he, being on a
certain occasion —
^' In com rouaicatioa with St. Antony, there came a
crowe Had 3*tt*on a tree tliereby, who %ing softly ucerc
VDto them, let fall a wIioIa bufYe, and went awiiy'; thoa
Mid Paul to ADtony, lJlc;3i«ed be God that hnth frent ^-ic-
taalt for ts to eate ; knof^ brother Antony that it is six
jeres pince this crowe hath eucry day brought me balfe
a loaOe, but now at tby ooming the Lord haik doubled
<jur prouision."
After F. C. Il/a correction I should not have
troubled you with mine, but being de^iirous of |
ascertaining aomething more about my authority,
I take the ooportunity of inquiring what h known
about this Lives of the i^mtiU. It is a dumpy little
quarto, my copy witbout title, beginning ** Table
of the Names of all the Sainta contained in this
Looke, iind, Kulendar wi»e, runs to p. 938, Nov. 25,
where it enda imperfectly, beginning again under
July 31, p, 17, and running on with now matter as
of an appendix to page 83, where the book enda
thus: —
** A pprobator Horuni Sanctorum Vitse ex alijs longiu*
in Aniflitiani a D. EdouarJo Kincsman Ver!?!i.% tyto et
cunx frtictu edi possum. Arnlomarop. 27 Maij, ataucitxin.
Joun. Floyd D4y Soo. leea Ttieclogiti."
A, O.
Falls op Foters ani> Glamma {V^ S. vi. 501 ;
vii, 620 — The names Glaniran, Olamfnr, Glora-
inen, might with equal reason be derived from the
^u.-Goih. fioma (fah pk^mif G, t/femnUf oblivisei
tfiiT the river Z^he) ; or from fflimmay micMe, \
coruscaro (Isl. lioma, lux) ; or glamma, atrcpiii
edere (Isl. glamrUf strepere ore»pei^, glumr^ sti
tusi, glf/mr, resonantia) ; or from oa,-(ioi *
Ijom, tepidus; or Isl. Mn, lacuna, abosta^t
ces^us atagni. But a more probable derivatioit'
be from the Celtic lan^ lon^ lim, aqua (BoJLk.
Lejr, Ant, Brit, liynu, liquor), with the not
C(jmmon prefix g. Conf. the river G Ian (Carinthi
whence Klagenfurt, i".^. the ford of the Ghn
Kluimi'j the Luue (Lat* Zm«<i), a river of Eng^-
Lmd ; the German rivers Leine and Lame (by
some Lona^ Ltums^ Loganus; the tail, I if, m^
imda, al^o aqua; the Welsh Ui^ a liux,
stream^ Gaelic and Erse lua, aqua*
Gray*a Inn.
TflE Mekout op Smells (4*^ S, vL 297,
IIazlitt is right in his assertion that it is im-
possible to remomber smells, for the faculty af
memory ctin only be exerdst^d upon objects wr*""
have been seen or impressions made upon
organa of hearing. Bar- Point says he can r
at any time the Hmell of the binding of hi» Bci
books; but if he consider a moment^ and analyj
hia mental operations, he will ftnd that he finl
recalls by memory the outward ap
books, and then (by a totally dit-t
fancies what their smell was. Thts wnuie
is a good example of the aasociation of
Taste and sniell are -closely connected in
points, and the same law holds good witli tbf
©ensations of taste. Bar-Point cannot romeDtte
the taste of the c^es wLich were In favour wbcft
he was at school, unless he first remembers wbat
the cakea were hke in outward appearance. Then
it is easy, by the exercise of fancy, to endow thm
with tiie attributes of sweetnesa, flavour, Jt
which had formerly such a charm for hira. Tl
process in fact is an instance of what 3(fr. J. <
Mill hiippily caiJa *' mental chemiatry " ; the
operation of the mind almost unconacioiijaly
rates the other.
The mental sequence of these two operalioDi
thought will be more clearly seen by tevc^
the process. Una Bar-Point ever not;
as it were by a mental flash, a smell
calls up an idea of place ? Association oi jufw **
in this case ngaiu the enchanter. Thus I neTff-
pass a yew-tree hedge in my garden without it»
mdeacrlbabie old-world fraflrnnce instantly »-
calling to my mind an old hall in Derby <shire, ft
hundred miles away, in the garden of which &»
some wonderful examples of the topiarian artwiti
which I first made acquaintance when qoito ^
child. Similarly, the peculiar odour which doC
ments give out after they have been kept iu *
drawer a long time, iiTesiatibly reminds me, wbeo*
ever 1 smell it^ of a certain brass- bound mtuiGg^
desk some two counties removed from my haia^
PxLien7&
Ity af
Khdil
iItm
be "fat
rtwiti J
idcciL^B
NOTES AND QUEKIES-
179
TiovET (4*** S. viL 11.) — Tbe name is pro-
t Boevey (pronoanced Boovey), and the
kuiiiy IS now represeutt^d by Sir Tbomas Crawley-
Joever, Eart,» of Fkxley Abbey » co. Gloucester.
[aim Boevey was the brother of tlie Mnry Cour-
HiAfr about whose father Mn, Bo\aB inqiiirt's,
rheir father wna WiUitim Hoevey of London,
lifSicIiftiit, joint purchascir with his brother Jauiea
^f FUxJey Abboy in 1G47. Ho died in liWL
thtii mother was Anne^ dauc'hter of John Lucy.
iriiidi Anne married (^ecotidfy) Sir James Smith,
Knt. The brother, James H^:>evey, eldest (?) son
rf Andrew Boe?ey, died in 16<*o» hamg married
Ifugmret Creasett (who snrvived him), and leav-
Dff utile ComeliBf wife of Thomna VaniLker, and
William BoeTey of Flaxh-y^ whcse widcw Katbft-
ine, daujrhter of John Hichea, was the " widow "
»«kvTad of Sir lio^er de Coverley.*
Th# hr<:)ther of Mary Courtenay wa^ father of
Riehard Boevey, who took the name of Garth^
mA WHS ancestor of the Garths of Morden, co,
p ' '.t>r sister Judith married Sir I^\iuaa
I Anne and Jc»anna, sifters of Jnmes
Lnavvui^aLii Bo6vey, married^ the latter Abraham
■^■ll|iand the former Diivid Bonnell of lal^
Klurtfty' irbose datig^hter Mary married Thomas
Citwle^r of LoQdoD, merchant
Tlw amis of Bo€vey are given by Cleveland
■a Or, an a chevron sable three platee; but in the
gust of arma to Cniwley-Jk>evey they are cited
MBnn. on a bend gule^ between two martlet?
iiftblr, tlinr putties d'or: and so I think they
ipr tnooumenta in Flaxley chureh»
I; I for this iuforniation| which 1 hope
VM' - to Ma. Botle, he can giv« mo any
H" I thn pedljn"ee (if Andrew Boevey^ I
izt'd. I think he will have to
. lud. HeXRT H. GlDBS.
^, JjimiUa'j?, lichen t's Park,
Fi:i-iTR : FwsxL (4^ S. vii. 55.)— The anrns of
rt3 three strawberry flowers on a blue
'. iiev are borne by Lonia lA)Tftt and tSnl'
id Tl>y Sir W, Fraaer of Ledeclune, Bart.
nher and arrangement have varied at dif-
iedoai timea ; iix is not uncommon, placed three,
*^, JwH one. In Scotch heraldry the*© atraw-
alled " Fnurira.'^ They may be
iit cross at Peebles. Aa to the
1 hhallbe glad of information.
. the French Fraaers, the Maivitufl de
LuiCy waa kUled in the Duche«Be deBems
TnB KxidBT OF MORAR.
'Rryis OF STo^fBHKKdE (4*"* S. vii. 36.) —
b^ggnn, thp tnu-mvpr of Mr. EirwTff Dim-
^» old print of > s was born at 1 Jantzic
*fco«t tha year 10.. jiig to Bryan j and big
J* "The rtrxmw Wi4ow'* Is noticed in •' ?!. & Q,/'
'*l bi. m ; il«i S. iU. £16,— Ed.]
chief worka, the same anthprity a^anres us, were
publiahed in the last quarrer of the nerenteenth
century. Thia will enable Mr. Ditnudi to ^x,
approximatively the date of his print
T. WEaxwooD.
Bev, Nbhemiah Bogebs (4*^ S. vii, 77.) —
Nehemiah Roirera occurs aa prebendary of the
sixth stall, BlV, in ia3a He died beft)re 1660,
aa Laurence \Vomoclc was collated to this atall
July 15, \mO, and inatalled Sept 22 of the aame
year. (Walkcr'a Sufferings^ ii. 22; L© Neve'a
Fadi Auglkmi, i. 000.)
Rogers was abo rector of S. Botolph'e, Blabop-
gate, to which he succeeded March 2G, 1642, on
the resignation of Wykes. Robert Pory, D.D., woa
admitted to the rectory Aug. 10, 1(K50, /r^r nwri,
Rogers. (Walker, ii. 176; Newcourt's MeptrtO'-
rittm^ i. 313.) Rogers waa admitted to the vicar-
age of Messing^ in Essex, May 1^3, 1 020, per mart,
Harris ; John Preston succeeded May 3, 1042, per
ces^, Rogers. (Newcourt*8 Hep, ii» 417.)
He waa alao rector of Great Toy, in I^ex. He
entered on this preferment Aug. 15, 1644. (New-
court's Mep. ij. 572,) JonirsoN BAii*Tt
8. A, will find some account of him in the
"Puritan Series of Commentariee/' republished
by Nichols, Edinbuwh, It ia pre&iced to a r^
print of A Btranae Vmeyard in PkUestma.
1, RighOdd Place, Bradford.
Simon roEs and the Codex SuTAiTicrs (4*^
S. vii. 77.)— W. E. A. A. will find the extra-
ordinary statement of Simonides printed tn cjy-
temo in The Guardian^ Jan. 2L 18(j3, and the
consequent controversy waa carried on principally
in that paper, in the Literaiy Chitrrhman^ anu tba
Clerical JounuiL A few letters appeared also In
The PaHhmon and other literary periodicals of
the first quarter of 1863.
I have preserved aome collectanea on the aflEair,
and shall W happy to lend them to W. E. A. A-
if he will commimicatfl with me.
tJnl'iss {m I hope to be) I Jim anticipated by
some one better qualiiled, I should be happy to
condense an article I wrote at the time in a pe*
nodical now defunct into a rSmm*^ of the whole
controversy, if Mr. Editor could give it room.
Gbobcub M. Greef*
27. King William Street, Strand.
[Sach an article, if it can he brought within a mod«cate
compaas, would, we shotiid think, be very acceptable to
many rcadon. J
A laamed friend told me lately that Simonided
informed him that, if he ezammed the originiil
MS. with that of TiaclieDdorf a edition, he would
find two places marked aa *' lacuna *' by tJie hitter,
because they bore evident marks of being the
handiwork of Simonidea, for the invlx^V Vvi\\«t ^1
I twaity-one consecuti^a ^im« «^^l«uX>jEt^ Tiasnfc
180
KOTES AND QUERIES.
t^u-STU. F.JI.25,'
K, o, n» 9, t, ft, D, t, i, n, o, a, S, i, m, o, n, i, d, e, «.
If thia be tbe CAs&^ there chu be no doubt thAt all
the world is deceived aboitt the antiquity of the
MS. Simonidefl, to tbe last, declart'd it to be his
haodiwork, 0, L. BLENKUfsop?,
Springthorpc Reclorj%
CHARLEMAQTrE, Arms OF (4*'" S. %ii, 76-)~If
TOY T^coOection eervea me, a colossal Matue of
OnftrlemagTie, opposite? nneof the entmncea to the
Paris Exhibition of 1867, bad on the shield a
flinple cross florj (no tinctures Bbown-)
W, M. IL C. will find the folio vPing" entriea in
Rietfttap*B Armorial gSn^rai: —
** Chftrlumagme, Normandy. ^^ D*/i2ur an chevron ac-
oompagQ^ en ch^t de deux croissanta et i^n pomte d'unc
moktte, 1« tout d'or.
*' Charlemagne, Hern*. — D'or a rai|*:lft de sable charge
d'unc fasot I'n clivi«t' de gtieule* aurchargi? de troi* roses
d'argcnt."
Sawnry Bkane, the Man-eater (4*^^'' S. vii
77.) — The narrative {given in tbe following work)
of the atrocities committed by bim and bia family
are '* attested by the most unqueatjonable his-
torical evidence^'" as atated by Captain Charles
Jobnson in his Ilut&n/ of the Liifts and Aetiom
of the mod famous Hiqhicayfnen^ Street -robber t^
|c. *c.,8vo, Edinburgh,^ 1813, pp. 3.^7. Tbi» edi-
tion apnear? to be a reprint, as ttie Adverliaement
atates that "the History "had become verv scarce
and Tahiatile. At the sale of the late finite of
Boxburgb's books a copy sold for fifteen guineas^
beaidea duty. W. P.
Whale's Rib at Sorrento (4^'' S. vii. ^6, 84.) i
The object alluded to illustrates a niediffivfll prac-
tice of putting objecta of curiosity in cburchea as
an attraction to those who otherwise would not
coBie, and is defended by Durandus. In the
churcli of S. Mary Redclifle, Bristol^ there is (or
was until lately) a large bone, most probably that
of a whale, but aaid to be the rib of tbe dun cow
killed by the redoubtable Guy, Earl of Warwick.
As it stood upon a corbel apparently intended for
itj and of tbe same date as the church, this bone
baa probably been there for centuries,
P, E. Maset,
TiTB Schoolmaster Abroad rw Stafford-
BmRE (4*** S. vii. 12L) — The tirat of tbeso storiea
was in Punch long ago, and is Bpoiled in the Staf*
fordshire Ad cert her. It had a further point, in
tbe unseemly resemblance between the words
bishop and bitch. The collier aaysj on hearing of
a bishop, ** I don*t know what thee means, but
mj bitch Ro6e shall pin be.^' It may he seen,
admirably illustrated as uaual, in tbe inimitable
collecdoi^f Leech's drawings.
TMe etorr fua^ be m triiQ one, but Punch gene-
r^ypats *''Fact" when it w sa Lttoxtow* \
NOTES ON BOOKS. ETC.
Otlmdtr of State Popert^ DomeMtic Seriett of j
of Knz'abm, lCOl-1603. With Arldenda, 1547, l|
^:dUtd by Mary Anne Everett Green.
Caimdar of State Paperw, Foreign Seriem^ of the i
Elixabethf 15G4-5. Edited by Joseph Sterenfon, J
Calendar of State Papert^ Cotimiat Series^ Kuat Im
China and Japan. 1617-1621. Edited by W. '
SAinsburyi lC*q,
Calendar of State FaperBf Foreign and lh*mtiikt «
i7«jaii of Henry VIIL preserved in the PnhUe P
{}ffice, British Museum, and ^tewkere in Kn^
Arranged and Catalogued by J. S. Brewer, M^
IK Parti.
If any douH cotih! cxUt aA to the valae and inipott>
anco of ihe great work of calendaring, and so renderiisf
available the match1e<i9 Rtores of bistorical docttBwoU
presen'ed amon^ our National Records, to the inaogun*
tion of which tbe late 81r George Lewis so largely eoo'
tributed, and wbidi ia naw being so raoceKfully carried
on, under the superrlaion of Lonl Romilly, it most l}f ith
statitly dii*|>eiled by a glance at the conrenta of tbe fwar
f^oodly rolumcA w'ho»e tiilm we have just IrtxtieiiM.
There in not a branch of our hi!vtnr}% fiolitical, eodeMM ^
ticah muntcipal, or social, which does not receive nKne «r
k>M i n u«itration from some of the docuraenti here deeefibed,
and of muny cif i\htch the very exjftenoe is fir^t mide
known to »tu(kntB b}' these volumea. Mn. Kveiett
Greenes Calendar completer the regular suits of the
Domestic State Pap^^r? *^f the Ueijni of Queen Ellzibeth,
and throwa much li^ht on the proceoding^t against tbe td-
herenta of the Earl of E^^sex ; on the controversy betwOTS
the Jesuitfl in England and the secular prie^ta: and for*
niniheit iiume minute details concerning the last Qtaosfod
death of Elizabeth : the remoinder of the volame b«is|5
occupied with addenda of the Donaestic Paper* ofEdwanJ
the SiJttb, Mnry» ami the early yeara of £ii/;abctli dii*
covered since tfie printing of Nfr. Lemon's Tolume* Mr,
Stevenson's vohmie is the last, it is underatood, whi»*b tbo
pablic will receive from this acciimplished ?^ hotar ; ati]
those who glance over the brief hnt intor
which ho givca of the content* of the v.
contains abstracts sa well of the entire officiai corrcspnTiu-
«noe whjcb paised between England and formgattnr
Iriea, Si also cyf such letters as were sent from ahroid lA
the Queen and the Kngliith Ministry geoendly, dnnfif
the yoara 15H4 and 15&5, will regret that tbey are la f^
ceive no more such luatructive sketches from the asAt
hand, llio interest attached to Mr. SainsburyV voloiait
is altogether of a different character, for the documsott
conlained in it continue the curious tUusirations of t^«
origin of the East India Company and of our Stult^
ments in India which were commenced in Mr^Sain^^bnir'^
preceding volu/me — ^ a volume of which it mar ^>l' i*"
marked that it was conpidcrcd so valuable by the S^tt-
tary of State for India timt Offy copies of it bava bf fcil
direction bt>en distiibuteiJ among the four PrttsidiiiiaHii
India, The last Calendar we have now to notice if t^
fir.st port of vol. iv. of Mr. lircwer's State Papers^ fhrttji*
and £Jome9tic, of the Fieign of Htnrtf VliL Allhf*u^
the papers contalne<l in it are confined to those of 1^
lf/2G, yet as they have been collected from tJUJ i**8*
able source and! are calendared at c^mllid^'r v'' ' ••"^'*''|-
they occupy a tliou!"«nd pageii, and, in cun
iustructive" commentary with which Mr. Bn
ittlTOAu,ciw\i\*'^Q\ftwwi"wUl appear with the last |>^ri of '*■
4tt&VU. ria..25.7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
»
Tl# Foeficol Work* f^f Thoma* fffiod, EdUedt trtih a Cri-
l»>.i/ Hmwir, fcy WiJIinm Michjiel HoiBotti. lUuMtrattd
l>y liUftAVo Dorc. (Moxon.)
This w K nicclr printed volume of the dioircflt pnema
«if Thr>mft* IIochI/ It doea not contiim all his Comic I'ntfHM,
or nil Uts SerwuMf tbofe mast be Bought for, ir granted,
ijj thfi two voluniM so cntitlwl. Mr, Ho*9ctti opens the
▼olurr ■■■'■■' ' -cfftton- notko, in wbk'h thefev iticideiita
of th* ir« briefly atirl pleaxantly told, tnd Ids
nkcf irli-^h pocifl fixed by the writer «» *'the
finet Engli-*!! poet brtwctfn the peneration of Shelley nnd
til* generation of Tennyson/* The volume is illusiratml
with reJuceti cupiea of Dor^« well-known pictures,
Tkt Tear Book of FacU in Scienrr and Art: txhibiting
the mn§t Jmynrtant DUcrtmrirn nnd Impravementa of
cA« Fast Tear, ^c. By JohnTimb*» (Lock wood & Co.)
We have apain to welcome the indcfarignUle Mr.Timbft,,
«Dil we gladly direct the attention of such t*f our readcra
«s are interestetl in the prwRTc»» of Bcicnce to thia freah
pioof of Mr. Titnbj's intelligent industry.
RsirisiON OF TUB BiBLK.— The Old Testament Com-
ftMf tft BcTiaen resvtmed their labonra on Tu&iday ]n»i
ttsder tbe nre9id«ncy of the Biahop of SL Daxida, who, we
l^oici? to leim, no longer aec« any neceaalty for wiih-
.111 his connection with this imporUnt work,
ritinue to g^uide the coundh of the Iteviatrs
lane hitherto. From this it may be inferred
:t r T !> 13 judgment, the principle for which he »o
n. ^i -ntended in the debate* of last week in the
I ; r t{ use of Convocation hia lie en amply vindicated,
I I -ps of Uandaff, Ely, tod B«th and WdLs and
thiric. ii other membert were'aUo present at this meeting
of the compaoy.
A CLrn IS Ci>3«STAXTixoi'Lr. — A new Ottoman dub
bai t>*«o organised in Htamboulf originated by Maslaphm
Faxyl, wb*> h^n already made a han<l«ome donation of
^m I ■ rks to the library of the club. A branch
of IJi: n hia 1U3W foroiod itself into a literary
iocif'. - 1 puipoM of translating Eur"pean works
of tho greater edebrity into Turkish, and is at thia
mocsrat engaged on the Letten of Lord Cheiiarjitld.
Ma. John Maiitix, M^R, the Repealer, and tatcly-
elfcted member for Meath county, ha^*, to use the word*
altbe late Artcm«< Ward, been f^uilty of** a goak/' We
■e in Debrett'a Nemldk and Bioifraphictd Houxe o/"
tMM 4tmi the Judicial Bench^ the editor atales— that
ia r*piy to his customary inquiry* as tt» the armorial die-
tuictioDii borne by the new member^Mr* Martin replied,
**1 carry no armi! This U a proclaimed dialrict "
SiiAJtSTEAKX. — At the sale la^t week, by Metars.
Zo/th^t ^^ ^« valuable library of Iha Rev. Thomas
OoVMr a unique collection of Shakfipeare'a works waa
ilMaatd of. The firft four folio editions fetched re»p«c-
;itr^ leo/^ 49t^ 71L, and UL ; a second quarto of the
^i^rthAmi of Vtme*^'l2L -y a s«oond quarto of MidMum*
mtr mffke* DTttim,2eL ; the King Lntr of 160ft, 26/. 10*. ;
tba fir«t cd i tion of Troytus and Crtneid, 37 L } Oihdlo^ 1680,
If. 10a, J and Rmnto and Juliet, 1637, 1 \l The preatart
mrily in the sale was the ori*?inal e<titiort of the Stmneh^
ieo», which, although the Utle^pape and leaf of deilica-
tioo were in fac -simile, reached 45/. Kext m interest
««fe the f'fuuf and Adtmit^ which reached &6/^ being
ont of the only two perfect cnpie« known (the other la in
Uie BHtHhMuwum), and the /'wnu tf IG50, duodecimo,
quite fierfecl, AIL The^so last throe were purcha.*od by Mr.
Addiftjctoo, who lust year gave 200/. for a s^ty fine copy
ttf the third folio.
KaTioiKAf. Gallwit*— The Annual Report of the
THiector hat jii«t been printad. Five pf^tttnea frene bought
«
during the last year^nameh', *' An Old Woman peeling
a Pear/* by David Teniers ; *♦ Saint Pelpr Martyr," the
portrait of a Dominican monk, by Giovanni licllin),im^
ported from Milan; **Tho Procession to Calvary,** hy
Boccaccio Boccaccino, importe*! from Milun; "The Ma-
donna and Infant Christ, the Youthful Baptist and
Anf*elV* on uniniahed picture ascribed to Michel Angelo;
an ailtar-picco by (fiarabattista Cima da Con ei»^liano, re-
presenting ** The' Incredulity of St. Thomas/' The collec-
tions of the National Gallery at Trafalgar S<}uare and
at South Kefisington have (nsfluming that all the visitors
to the Museum visit the Picture Gallery) been attended
bv l,9i;i,56t peri*nns on the public days durinjj the year
1870 J 898,715 at Trafalgar Square, and 1,014,849 at
f^outh Kensin^on, The daily average attendance at
Trnfiilgar Square (open to the public 180 days) was ^
4,915 ; io l%m the average was 4,!>l 1. ■
We learn from Tht Publisher a Cirrular that Messrs,
Sampi^on Low 4t Co. have now nearly ready for ddivi^ry^
the Dictionary of Biof^raphical IJeference, by l^wrence
B,Phillip^ F.R.A.S,, which will consiit of over 1,000 pp.
medium Svo, The value and importance of this dic-
tionnry will be Iwst perceived when it is stated that there
will lie one hundred thousand namea — a number which
exceeds by many thousands those eontaioed in the most
voluminous existing works upon the subject — and up-
wards of a quarter of a million references. The chief
letters run as follows; in B 12,(100 names C 9,397, ^m
G 5,G40, L 5,481, M 6,816, S 7,800. ■
Damp. EunorA's Poim^ot..— The success of this pam- "
phlet has tH^en remark able. The sale has reached nearly
200,000 copies, and it has been already tranislated into ^
French, white propositions for German,*ttalian, and Por- ^|
tuguesQ translations have been forwarded to the pub- ^|
liihers. The following, according to The Fubiighert*
C^rcuhr^ h a list of the answers and imitations which it
has called forth. Their vale has also t>ecn unexceptiunally^
large. The first on the list iii— John Justified, a Reply to
the Fight, 6d, (Simpkin) i Johns Governor visita Uame
Europa'a School, Gcf. (Blackwood) ; Break-up of D/irae
Europa's School, dd. (Clowes); Which should John have
Helped? F<£. (Hardwicke)} Why Johnny didn*t Inter-
fere, M (Whitlaker) ; The Row at Dame l^uropa's School,
another account, by a Chum of JohnnyX Gd. (Trilbner) ;
Master John and bis Tenants, or What Sandy thou|?ht of
the H attar, Sd, (Sttopkio); What Johnny thought of it
all 1 a brief Review of his Treatment at the hands of
Friend and Foe, Sd. (Whit taker) ; John's LTncle thinks It
Time to say a VVord, or How to Conquer England, 6*f,
(Hotten) 1 A Few Parliculara of John's Fag at the Dame^s
School, (id. ( Den n ant).
LnXlHiN iNTKItNATlOieAL ExiIinTTlOJf OP 1871.—
Dtirin;; t tie week ending February 18, upwards of 3,500
Briti-ih objects, consisting uf Sculpture, Pottery, Wool-
lens, and Educational Works and Appliances, have li«ea
delivered at th« Exhibition Buildings, boddea foreign
objects from Bavaria, Belgium, and Saxony.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WAHTSD TO l*F&Oa^SB.
FArttmlari of Trlw, *«., of th» fbllowtug Boolu to be ■ent illr«H tft
th« c^nikioeti ity wtvjm titer »rt ftquu^d, whaM buubm mwI mJOr^aaM
«r« riven fur that purpoN; —
Nimait (n%r. JoaaV. A CoLLaOTios Of l£tacax»LAXias, *e, Itonft,
tdDixkid, 17*3, _ . ,,__
ni:,nTi{W»i.i.TnB BBfTiBM Linii^ttU*. Sim. ^^*^*''^.'.L <■'.. ^..„..
I>t>i:(}l.A« tHKV. JoifJt), Mll.TOif \ iXDlOATSO rBOJt Tua LUAtuia
or FUAUUnirtH, JKc. ft»ro, LHjndm, IJ6L ..»«.» x^L^kl x«vw^
Tna EsoLittHMkji t>vttWrt*i* \» -riaa Cwmci. «t t^v* ^-ttuv^wa,
t8yThomMClUk*m»a,D*S>.n »»«• Vmdoa,\l^
i
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NOTES AND QUERIES*
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KOTES AND QUERIES.
183
)OWDOX, SATVRDAr, MARCH 4, 1871,
CONTENTS,— N» 166.
^"Omrft Ben Jmmm\** ISa — A Fretich Mys-
^ .„ ,oi . it t vr..,. Phhopa, lb.— The Complc-
— Pifteon Post to PiJii —
■j\fH — Dia-sptrit — ll»r'»
I; Thrushes — Craven 8«j-
is — Balltid Printen' 8uc-
xjorck aDtictpfttod : " 8tew-
Correspondcnca between Queen Anne and
'DilDtetion — *• Apr^ moi k iMlupte " : Arrh-
Iton — Bacon's Qwpctn Counsel »bip — G.
"Mifts Farreii's Moufte in Gr^-cn Street —
. Hnkfin's Laurel Wreath — Governor* of
H M»nrn4'k«» of Combmartin — HtimpUm Fjiinily
Mi!ll|jiii — Merk«. Bishop nf Carlislo, t^mp,
Ji, — Mutton and Capers — ^ " Owl *. that lov^bat
Sky**— P)<MH|h-bote — Thi* Popi* B»i. or
ir«i*— Sliftkei|Mare: Epitaph on sirThomui
Bfittta Laird — ** H«ro of tho Warmlng-pau "
or Wyunell. 186.
_ Tho " Blw« Laws" of Connncticut, 191 —
' " " r - - ,^ " of CAldaro* IBS — "Es " and
•werm, 194 — Lady Anne Gri in-
ure hj ard — Berkwl'*! M u rd«nT5 :
luTr I r<iii[s"iis — stamp on Picture Cauvaa —
ifdiani«m — Kartolommo DiniB, the Diaoovefpr of
Boute — Tl»*j Dtsaf Old Woman — Stcwry aacribed
jm llook — Lord PI unkt-t- Cinderella and the
ipprr — Old Prints of Stoneheng*! — New Zealand
%4_Blafk*country LpjKcnd : "The Purciy Aupc-
Hood — Dryden's Affreemeat for his
••0 RABE BEX JONSON ! "
f recently published little volnine, Memo-
Templc Bar J with name account of Fleet
h»ve copied on p. 1*9 a very intereating
it kLDdiy lent to me for that piir|)06e by
Itiaie p^idsefifior, Mr. John Carter of if,
jeet* The manuecript i8 simply endorsed
Cooke hia bill IGIO/' but aa it relates
|oet Ben Jon son I presume the readers of
Q." will not object to ita reproduction,
the same time nccept a few notes iu ex-
&:—
^aii Jenerar Anno R«^is Jacobi Declmo
S«ptirao, 1(J19.
Cooke, one of the Gromet of the Prince bii*
,l.vir:c -• nt in hidlli^hnes aervice bv ye eomand
'r ' 1 iter, Gentollinan Usher, t>aily Waiter
!*: ligbnes of two Message two severall
[D!ii tii*> 1 ouft at Whithadl into Londun by
it, to warn M*" ficii Johnson the Po€t, and Lhe
iSt lhe Blacklripfv to atljnd Hys Blighnes that
Poiriog at Courts wch. severall servieea bdng
fetnmed eAch tvine with answer, alao being sent
brme by the lyke com and to the honorabl, the
Kiarde wth letters, wch sen-ice being done he
^aii^wer U* the Court aforcsair], for wch fl«rrices
to have alowance lor his boot bier and charges
for thre jorniea to b« 4 s octed bj* the hon&rbl
'^ iry Knyght Cbamberlin to y* Prince flys
in be p«id by the w<»r*hipfull M*" AdiJamit
Gtfteratl of Hys Higbnea TresHrer."
OldTS, mentioning Ben Jonson^s ownefship in
the JP'ortune Theatre, "the new house neer©
Goulding lane," relatea that he lived in Bartholo-
mew Close, in a house inhabited in bis ((Jldvs)
time by a letter-founder named Jame«. If Oklya
is correct, it is certain that, although the Cloae'is
not in Cripplegate parish, it warranto the mea-
Benger styhng it " by Cripellgatt/' that being to
him, as to other Londonert^f a distinguishing land-
mark. But If Thomas Cooke went to the play-
houae, which wa^ in the parish, his description
would be correct
Next, touch lug the spelling of the name, it is
worthy of remark that Gillbrd notes — ** He knew
bis own name, and persisted in writing it correcfltff
though some of his best friends vimj^'U it/* We
me eyidence of this in many contemporary docu-
ments, including Maimingham's Diary ( HarL MS»
6353), where it is spelt " Ben Jobubon."
About the period of this ** warning," several
notable events were taking place in the life of our
poet In the simimer ot 1018 ha made a tour
mto Rcotlimd, visiting many fHends, including the
poet Drummoad. GifFord says be stayed at Haw-
thomden from the beginning to the end of April,
1G1S3, arriving in London in May, though others
state he stayed there several months. In July he
received his degree of M.A. from, Christ Church,
Oxford, and aamewhat later succeeded as poet
laureate. It is also worthy of remark that wnilo
in the North the annual mask had been per-
formed in London, and but ill received, his friend
writing him, " Your absence was regretted/*
Such being the case, is it to be wondered at that
this *' warning *' should be of certain interest^ and
certainly historical ?
There is one other subject worth noticing, and
that is the Blackfnars' Theatre and " the players,"
In 1615-10 the corporation of London succeeded
in Meventing the erection of a new theatre there
by Rossi ter, for it had and has a great antipathy
to theatres within its lurisdiction, and the only
way the promoters could possibly escape wa« vo
erect the playhouse within the privileged sanc-
tuaries of tue black and white friars' monasteriea.
Having managed to prevent the erection of a new
building, the corporation, three years later, tried
to suppress the theatre entirely, and on Jan, 21 —
twelvemonths before the date of our messenger^s
chorge — Lord Mayor Sir Sebastian Harvey (who,
curiously enough, became related aojue years later
to Edward Alleyn, the player and founder of
Dulwich College) issued his proclamation, which^
after reciting the privy council order of 1*300
limiting the theatres to twOy declared that under
the title of a ^' private " house it had been made
a *^ public *' playbouse, " into which there is daily
so great a resort of people, and so great multi-
tudes of coaches, whereof many are bauckne^-
coaches, bringing ^eo]g\<a ot bIV feotU^ "CciaX ^Rrtaa.-
184
NOTES AND QUERIES. [v*^ ^. yiu ma^cb 4,-
times nil the streets cannot contain them," But
even thia prohibition was of little Rvail, for hy
patent under the great seal, divted March 27,
l619-20» two monlha after the date of our docu-
ment, the king licensed his ** well-beloved ser-
vants to act not only at the Globe on the Bankdde,
hut at the private hou^e situate in the predncU
of the Blackfriars " ; being in fact a renewal of
the patent granted to Shakespeare and others
on May IH, lliOli. There was in thicj patent
of 1610 tliis proviso — that performances do take
place *' when the infection of the platjm shall
not weekly exceed the number of fortie by the
certificate' of the Lord Mayor of London for the
time being/* It will thus be eeen that at the
period of our messenger s visit to Jonaon and the
players the Blackfriars' Theatre waa experiencing
a reuiarkable trial for existence*
Wit bout quoting- farther respecting Ben Jon*
^on'tj life, it la curious this document should have
remained so long buried; and, interesting and
genuine aa it Is, i« it too much to ask where may
be found other MSS, equally as interesting and
illufltmtive of a life so pleasingly a«»«ociat<>d with
London ? " T. C, Noblb,
Great Dover Street, S.E.
A FREXCH MYSTERY-PLAY IX 1815.
The following is a literal copy of a pi «y- bill
preserved by an English family of rank, tiunie
members whereof were living in Frauee at the
time. It is one of thoee many little triHes which
6o unconsciously accumulate during a residence
abroad, and wbich^ when happily undeatroyedy
bring back such varied memories i- —
'* Par PwrmxMmon de MM. lex Main et AdJoinU de cette
ViUt.
TbJ^Atre dT^ducation, o\j ^colk de Mcccna,
SPECTACLE MECANIQUE,
Arec lea Gostucnes, Decorations et Musique analagnea
aa si^et,
-MM. Voos etea prdvcnus qu'il cat arrive en cctto Viile
dea ArtlRte^'Mc^nicieni, qui aaroni rhoDncur de dop-
ner aujourcThuit Dtmanchrt troi* dicembre lf!fl5, et jours
wiivttns, alternativemeDt, la Kepr^sontfttion des
MYSTEREB GLOIUECX ET TRIOMPILVNS
DB IrA ElESUaUECTlOS DK NoTBE StllGNEUIi JisUS-
Cum&T,
Drame ea cinq actcs, dan a lequel des figarc« tnouvAntci
ct porlaatei paiaitrout ct joueront sur la mx'tie.
Dtinu hprtfnitr acte,~On verm Jo»ph d'Arimjitliie chex
Pilate»tui demandant la pcrmiH^^ion de donnerla sc^pul-
tare & J*?*a», ct b ddsespoir de Pilate.
Dan* fe second, — On verrn dc^ccodre dc In eroix le Sau-
veiir du rnonde, par Nicodfemn ct Joseph d*Ariraathie,
en>(iiite place dans un a^pulchrc; Je»ui reH^uscitt-ra
tritmipliaot &u milieu de la garde, i^oldatA du Grand-
Pre Ire.
Dtau U trohicme.^On verra JJsua apparaL^&aiit k
d« »6» (tliciples, sur le cheniin dTinmalU, uuu en \
connu.
UanK te ipuitrivme.-^T] appaftitra ensuite h «C9 d{fti|j
reunh et renfiTrni^;) aecrLdemetif. Id 11 confoii
rincrdduUt<^ de Thorn iia, et predira ic
ea^uite on le verra monter aa del, en leur pn
le Saint-lfsprit.
Daus le cinquu'me.— 'On verm la de^cente da S«ifjt-E«p,
en forme iie colombe et de langue de fea, sur les Apolj
assemble) dans le C<^nftcl€,
l^'artl-^to pri^vient qu'il doanera des repre4i*nta(lons|
ville, ehez les personnel qui te feront appeler*
Le spectacle »cra tcrminL^ par des F»nix ur.tKt^^iiuv*,
Ton verra les Monumens lea plu« r
Capitalc, et autre'* objets cnrieux; Li
Fran«:t t-t de Navarre ; (-harle»-Pliilip|
Frtre du Roi; Mftne-The'rfcMt% iJachi
I/)uis-Antoine, Due d'Augouli'me; <
iJuc de Berri ; Louis, Prince de Condi-* lEu^lJc <
iieur de hi France ; la Grand'Cvoix de la Legion
neur ; Frani^^ois II, Empercur d'Autriche, Koi de ]
et de Hoheme; Alexandre 1"% Emperrnr de toutes ]
sift?, Roi de PoJo^e ; Georgef-Fr<?iJc»ric-Augiista,l
Ot^gcnt d*Angleterre ; Frcrdt-ric-Guillaume III^ fi
Prtiiise; le Pape Pie VII, ^ouvcrain PoDtife | Fti
uand VII, Roi d'Eapagne,
C'eat dans tine Salle de TAubergc de la Serptt* rae i
la Seri>u, X* 1*. On commenccra a *ix heure? pn^iseswi
La Snile ^m iti^^hien cliauffec* Prix dea plucea : Plj
mifsi'cs, liuit sous; Secondes, quatre ftuu»*
J'ai rtionaeur do voa4 valuer,
Unfortunately, the name of the town haa
been recorded. As ** lea Costume?, Ik"c<>ratio^
et MusiqiiQ " are bo poaitivt^ly stated to hava "
" anal Off ueg au sujtit,*' it ia a pity that no i" '
tion hy a ^pectntor has come down to
chnractt'r and order of the princes and potetitoljl
(^eueralifed as *»objet8 curieux"') may
observed with advantage, remembering
date is six montli.s after Wuterloo. All <
upon the treatment of the subject I knive to yod
flramalicnl or theological readers, merely obaer
ini^ that tht* actvjrs appear to have been such i
are now called Marionnettes.
W. C.
MANX BISHOPS.
The Bucces^ion of Manx bishops is as difficult t
make out as thy runes on their monumenlal «la^*fl
It ia possible that the varioua conquerors of M«
and the Isles may have occasionally set up bii
of their own, irrespective of existing claimtj
I think a little patient investigation would
coed in male in j^ out a rcj^ular succes.*ion. In I4
Xeve*s Fdi^ii Eccle*. Ang, (ILirdy^s edition, (
1854), it is asserted ibat John Dnnkan A\i
1380 ; and it is conjectured that, on his
the sees of Sodor and Man wero divided, I
Scotch rejected the bishops elected under
influence of Englnnd. This may ormaynotb<»;
but he is unfortunate in his factj* r<>^nHi:i!^ iIj«
df*si^natc9 Jo^i
4*S.V11, Maech4,710
NOTES AND QUERIES-
IBS
%0 wns appointed on two commissions fl^ Ric* H*)
t/i treat with the sons of Jolin^ lat« Lord of the
Isles (Kym, Tii. 50'2). ^'nw this John wna no
cither thin Jolin Dunkan, who coniinued to be
Bishop of Sodur or the Isles till 1395, when he
%r?is tntniHlated bv Boniface IX. to the see of Down^
whtrlt he occupied for many years, dving^ in 1412
</W*/i J^ccl. Record.^ u 207). A similar conimis-
tion was entrusted to him (0 lien. IV., Kym.
K. 89). .\g')iini I je Neye has this entry: '*John
Gri?ne a/i<r« Smolton occurs as bishop here in 1448
and 1454.*' r\ow were these names used indif-
ferently for the j^anK' person ? I think not, frooi
the le f*-* nen ce 1 0 1) I J j; d a1 e ' 8 H 'aric kk^h tre^ which I
h«Te e^Hruined; but reference is nlao made to
jRrfj, Ktmjf. Cant, and 2iefj. Boothe Ebor.^ which
I htn^tj not examined. In Ilugdale's Wantichshire
(od. Thomas), und+^r ** DuQchurch/* there nre these
two entries : "b. Job. Grene, cap. xxii. Nov, 1414/'
"c 1). Joh. Insulens. Epiac. titulo Comende, ix.
Feb. 1440 (cam quo ad hoc auctoritate Apostolica
wfficienter et le^atime dispenrntum)/' The refer-
(ine«0 «re *' b. Arundel f, 14:2 b, c. Bo. f. 10, a,"
Both incumbents wero presented by the patroii
II Epi*c* Gov. and Lich. Sproton was a Domi-
riir^n, and, on the authority of a MS. quoted in
itfrtim iJomhu'caminif is said to Lave been
red by Boniface IX., the same who trans-
lated John Dunkan to the see of Down : —
" Jtf. Sproton orcj. Praed. Episcop, Sodoren. in Scotia
PRrvine, Nidrofjen.oiUoiiifftcio IX. Cal Oetob. an. 3, qui
fill a GtoHosae Virginia part a Mileaimus treceute^iiuua.
This date 1S92 does not agree with that already
r^T.-Ti i:tr»'»^ for the tnmslation of John Hunkan.
- who bus an opportunity of searching'
: . j^ of the see of Liebnt^d, or of coo-
Piitifig the episcopal registers alreadr referred tO|
B%bt throw light both on the inclividufdity of
^toa and Grene and on the^ date of DtnilfVn's
titDtlation. A, E. L.
«BECOIIPLETIOX OF ST. PAULAS CATHEDRAL.*
A« many of the ivaderg of ♦* N. & Q,'* are in-
iffwtttd in this subject, I must criire a short spaee
! T to say that the moat important point— ^on
i may be «aid to depend the ultimate succesi*
- future operations in this great national
-vix. the portion of tho organ, baa been
i ^i only it should have been. The or;iaii
^ plicrd in the Testibule of the choir, near
jintil pA^ition^ but divided — as at Weat-
\ mily ^ith many advantages over the
linst the blank walls where now
n and Comwallis moniiments.
(ISciently large to allow of
% so that onfi organ will be
^m^m ti>r bntli I linir and dome services. It is
• Sw^'J- S. vi. 40» 65, 1(J5,
to be hoped that no mere sentiment about the old
organ caae will be allowed to roar what should
be one of the most ornamental features of the
cuthedral. The caj*e, as it now stands, is not, I
believe, Sir Christopher Wren's^ several, if not all,
of the figures having been added to it since his time.
If allowed to start from the ground aud to run up
to nearly tho sprinpng of the roof, the organ,
n»:ed be of no great bulk, and if properly treated—]
not in the ** box of whistles " style — can be made]
to add to the intended splendour of the choir*
After leister we may hope to &ee the demolition
of that eyesore, the transept organ. Could not
the marble columns on which it stands be pressed
into the service of the baldachino ? I do hope the
Chapter will thiuk twice before they sanction the
erection of the old return-stall!* (happily to b«]
removed from their pre^nt position) in the yesti*
hule, As much of the mis neb avi our on the pait
of the congregation at St, Paufs U owing to tlieir
being able neither to see nor hear under the prc-
fc^eut arrangeinent, it seems to me that what is
re^uimd is two choirs— one for the ordinary and
the other for tho special sorvices, but so contrived
that, on the latter occasions, the whole cathedral <
may be thrown open, and yet the proper ritual ^
arrangements maintained. If the eagle were re-
moved one bay west, the conductor at the speciid
services might ataud at it in full sight of the choir
and organist, and thus the originally intended
donhle use of the lectern would be restored. Tho
Committee should at once order the washing-out
of the decoration of the eaatemmost cupola of tb©
choir. It5 sham paneDing is most offensive, and^J
moreover, the very design itself does mischief, nsl
people naturally ask, with a shrug of the ahouldera, J
if acene-paintera' work is to be the result of the
ex pent! it ore of a quarter of a million of money.
In a future note I should much like to touch on
the stained gh\3» and mo&aic work in the church,
I will at present confine myself to saying that it
all appears too dark and heavy. Y, C. E.
PiGEOK Post to Paris.— The following inter-
o'^tinfl' account of the pigeon post, which appears
in 7 he Tektp'ttph of Feb. :i7, in the Paris Letter
of its Special Correspondent, ought to be pre-
served in " N. & Q. ' as a companion to tho
account of the photographing of The 2'imea in your
paper of Feb. 4, mit^ p. 94 : —
** I was much interested yesterday in an explanation
of the pijtjeon system kindly given to ni6 nt tlio Centr*l
Telej^jraph OIRce. Tho niitiroflcopic telcgriims aent from
Tours were at first printed ou thin paper by the ordinary
system of photographic rcductioa ; but the paper was to» ]
hejivy — a pigwn could carry only dv^ of the little pheets,
thou^^h ihey measure no more than three inches long and
two inches' broad. To get over this dilficuUy the de-
fpAtches were photoprraphed on pieces vf collodion of the
sanis siae aa the paper, each HtUfi bit ^owUvrnvii^ >:^\W
oolumni, and averaging *ZQ,Q^^ Ytotia— VWV 'a vci ^ —
186
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[4«s.Tn. ifAitcB4, n.
Blwuttbe contents of Ihirteco leaded colomna of a Lon-
^Um newapuper. From fourteen to eighteen of these tinv
leaves were put iuto a quill and tied to a pigeon's tail,
eevenil copies of tJie sajne leaves beinf? sent b^ difFerent
pigeons, ao as to diminish the risk of Io«s. When the
hkd reached Paris the quill wnsi immediately forwarded
to the telegraph station, i^rht^re the leaves were T*flcl
through a micnwoope to a clerk, who wrote out the
dcqMtcbea for each person. But this was a terribly slow
prm^se ; it permitted the employment of only one render
and only one writer, which was insufficient for copying
jwme 30,000 teltgrama of ten words each. So» after a
few days, the leave* were iiuc*?e«sively placed in a larfije
mitToscttpe, to which electric light was adapted ; and the
mafipiiijed Imnj^e of each leaf was projected on a while
board, from which it w^ copied by as many clerks, taking
a column ejich, as could manage to get itight of it from the
writing table. This, however, wns jstill too slow, and the
final improvement wa* invptitcd. Instead of throwinp
thf iniAge on the white board, it was photographed
straight off ypon a large sheet of collodion ; direct posi-
tive proofs being obtained, witliout any inbervcnlion of a
negative, by the siibstitution of black for white, and vice
rersn. The collodion shect<^ were cut up, and the pici>es
were distributed to a handred clerks; so that ail the
cargo of a pigeon was copied nnd sent out in a single day.
The explanation wbicb I received was accompanied by a
practical illustration of the working of the process; and
when I left I was presented, to my very great satisfac-
tion* with ail origmal pigeon deapatch of the 11th of
November. I shall carefully preserve that strange little
memorial of the aiege."
J. H. P.
FoOTB A3TB "Chbtsal/*— ItHag often occurred to
me that, amongst other iritereBting matter "niado
a note of" and preserved in your pages, it might
be desirable, before too late, to draw up some
noticefl of the cbarnctora drawn in Foote's come-
dies, and in The Adifeutures of a Oumea. As a
long time htis now intervened, and the individuida
themselvoa bare passed out of recollection, there
can hardly ho anything painful to relatives in
recording who they were. I m^'self have some
notices, drawn from the magazines of the period,
of partJedt whom Foote meant to satirise and
allueioos designed to tell j and am informed that
there are to be found in some work illustrations
of th© narratives given in The Adventures of a
Gum^f hut this I have not been fortunate enoufrh
to meet with. W. (1.)
[Thi* is a very excellent ancrffeation ; bnt, aa far ms
The Adcentum of a GuUua is concerned, litut been anti-
cipated by r>avi»m his OOi*^ where a key to the charac-
tcrt hi Chr^Mul will be found,]
Shongles.— In Sir G. Comewnll Lewla^s Life
and LettiTs, somewhere about the 110th pnge^^
for the book is not iu my pos&sseiou now — men-
tion is juade by thnt sound scholar and most true-
hearted and eonacientioug statesman of the word
ihongU a.H in use in Herefordshire (called tfumgow
in Devonehire J, and Bignifjing a handful of com.
1 think he did not know whence the word came,
hat my recolJection ia not distinct.
It occurred to me the other dav to ask my man ',
when driving' me out^ Owen McKeon being V).\
"Hibemus Hiberaorum/' what was the meaning
of the word, and he promptly replied *' a hand-
ful of com ; *' but he called it in the BerroMihiit
wny — shtmpo. So the word is pure Celtic^ u I
tmderetand it.
On the same occasion, promiMng nie an early
sprinip' from the peveiity of the weather befoie
Christmas, he said the blackbirds were nlentr
and that foretokened an early spring* ; " for," eaid
he, '* when the blackbird rings before Christmas
she will cry before Candlema*!*** This niece of
folk lore comes from Mkath.
Df9-srtRiT. — ^Of how entire a change some
words undergo in the lapae of time, we have not
a more pertinent example than that affonied in
this word dis-ipirit. As now used it means to
deprive of spirit ; formerly it lueant the direct op-
posite— to infuse spirit. 'Thus Fuller says (Holf
Stale, hook iii. chap, xviii. s. 5) : —
** Froporiion on hour' a tHtditathn to on ktmf$ rmduf
of a atapie author. — This make4 a man marter oi bB
leamingi and dis-spirita the book into the schnUur."*
As true is it of the meaning of wowis iS of i
words themselves —
*^ Ut ill vie foliia proQos mutant nr in annos ;
Prima cadant : ita Tcrborum vetus interit «tai,
Et juvcnum ritu dor«nt modo nata vigentque."
Ut Art. PoH, 60-^
« As ImveM on tree* do with the turning year,
The former fall, and others will appear ;
JiiAt so it Is in ii?ord!>— K}ae word will rise.
Look green, and flourish, when another dJea.**
Edmuwd Tew, MA.
Mar's Year. — It has puxzled readeis to uiid»-
stand what is meant by this in Buros's poem d
*' HalloweiiD." Now the explanation is tiiHt ii
denotes the year 171 o, being that of the rebellion
of which the Earl of Mar was the chief instii^atnr.
a
Edinburgh.
TiTE NlLi^. — There is not the 9lierhte*»t ftUuaoo
to the overtiowjng of tho Nile in the Jiible. hi
consequence of this omission many think that ti)«
books attributed to Moses could not have ' '^
written by hitn, as the peculiar circumsianees
such an inundation and the various expedinoO
resorted to by the inhabitants of Kgypt dunfl^l
its continuance must have here and there ufld^*'
signt?dly cropped out in the e^iored narrative,
the historian was resident on the spot. Perhf]i%
bowever, there was at that time no overflow, ifA\
the river was kept within its banks^ or when
rose wajg guided into channels made for the inijl**
tion of til e land, and was thus under compl<!^
control. Many learned men think the pvramid^
though used as places of sepulture for tbejr kinp^
were mainly subsen'ient for this purpo^i, sw
that the hieroglyph ical inscriptions will some ^^J
cleat u-^ iV^ cs\iflR\tnX'5 iWt at ^redent bangs oTtr
I
#fcS.Tll.MA»cii4,71,l
NOTES AND QUERIES.
187
ibose apparentlj useleas ttmctuTes, and prove that
thi^r were designed for utility. G. E.
CAPTAiif Coor TjiBXTBinsa, — Ab I was quitting
cburch one Sanday tl>i«spruig» my clerk remarked
that the winter ball been ven- fatal to stnall birds,
especially to the Captain Cook thrushee. On jny
erprif-daing my ignorance a« to what they were,
he informed me that there were two londa of
thniiMhes,',** one wo call storm-throatles^* (t. e, mia-
** the othere Captain Cook thmahea,
n Cook brought them hero from
•, • " ^* *^® notion common, and how
rdid It •nso ? I should add that the clerk in que*-
tioQ is ** no acbolar '' j he cannot in fact read or
write, and ifl merely an ornamentnl feature of our
aerrioe. retained in compliance with popular pre-
pdiee JQ Eftat Lincolnshire, where people have not
jet lt>ftmt to regard the possibility of *' parson and
ckrk '* beirig ever disumted. I will conclude this
discuft-'tve note by remarking' anent parish clerks,
that although Blackstone says they riiuBt bo ** auf-
fioent for their office,'* 1* strongly recommend
ptncmfl who wish to teach their people to respond,
bae^t up on the first opportunity a clerk who (for
iisie At least) must neeeaaarily be dumb.
CBATfOf SArnfs.^ — We have in Wharfdale a
proTtfrb or sayinp that has always been a pujcde
to me. It is— *^ Winnot there be skrtkeis [shrieka]
HObwon?** It is used when anything extraor-
dinary is about to occur that is likely to produce
excitement. We have a village in Langs troth -
led Hiibberholm, ^^^ Oberon may be a
of the name. But I am not aware that
ever occurred there to connect it with
* Can Oberon mean Holborn in Lon-
13 the saying an imported one? The
Story of Linton used to utter it
and he waa of gypsy origin* I shall
of information as to wLether the saying
other localities, and in what particuhu'
Stkphen Jac¥3ok»
OBT 07 CoLDTKoHAif, 1538. -— The late Dr,
r, in his interesting HxHory of Coldinghaw^ the
kration of which gave him a vast amount of
ble and involved much research, was unable
'aee the surname of ome of the abbots, having
nothing about Mm excepting that he was
Adcun.
ing had access to a deed executed by "Adam/'
the consent of the c<^nvent, I am able not
4dcupply this omissiou, but to famish a list
(fitiam^B of the consenting monks.
In 153d the prior of Coldingham was Adam
Blacader, now spelt Blackadder; the sub-prior
was Alexander Lyndsay*
Mooka : — James Spenss/Adnm Ransaman, Wil-
liam Lermocht, Jamea Cjtnts, Jacobus Jiedpeth,
Willelmns Huid [Hood], Willelmus Bame, Oeor^
gius Pylmer,
The surnames of most of these individuals still
exist in the Merse. The Hoods, Redp&thtiT Lo^
months^ Run ci mans, Lyndsays, SpeoPt and Black-
adders are common enough* A person of the
name of Pilmnro lives at preaent in Berwick-on-
Tweed, and Barnes was recently to be found at
Carham,
Canta, however, is puzzling. The Whitadder,
originally called Id old charters White- water, flowa
into tbe^ Tweed on the west of Gaioslaw ; and
there is a bridge over it near that place which at
present is called *^ Canty's Bridge/' the origin of
which name I have never seen explained. May
it not have been so called from gome one of the
name of Cant or Canta P X M.
Ballad I*Rr!fTERS* SrccissioNs. ^In one of
my interviews with the late Mr. Pitts, the ballad
print^r^ he stated that his buMuesa was a veir
aucient one. He waa the successor of Marshall,
who succeeded the Alderamry printer ( I forget
his name), whose business had descended from
the houses of Coles, Vere, W^right, and others*
Mr. Pitts's statement went to show that from the
reign of Elizabeth to that of William IV, there
bad been amoogst the ballad priiit4>rfl of London
a regular btmtiess descent I question whether,
in the above respect, the **Row" can compete
with the *• Dials.'*^ James Hejtrt Dixok.
Lion SniLLrNoa. — The ahllling of Get>rg© IV.
with the liriu on the obverse is not only the sub-
ject of catch bets as the shilling with *' two heads*'
on it, but of a modern superstition that a person
having a Hon shilling in his pocket will be lucky
and not want money- Many respectable persona
in tlie metropolis have indulgea in this super-
stition, and of late years lion shillings have been
scarce in circulation, having been absorbed for
purposes of superstition.
Of late they are coming rather freely into cir-
culation, considering their date^ and are often in
good condition. Speculatively I attribute this to
the prevalence of dangling spade guineas and other
cola amulyt^s at the watch-chain, one superstition
growing out of another.
If this STippoeition be right we shall have an
example not only of the growth of a modem and
recent superatition in our day, as I pointed out
to the Ethnological Society, nut we may witness
its quiet extinction. ' Hide CLAatH.
Bl«?]k[AKCK ANTICIPATEB I " StEWING IN TOTIR
OWN Gravt.*' — I liave found thie phrase applied
by the great Chancallor of the North German
Confederation in an unexpected quarter,^ Ned
Ward's Limdon Spy, in a chapter in which he
exactly describes a modem Turkish bath at the
Hummuma in CoveiilOM^e^. *^V^»KiJCwsi^«^'^-
ing of the keepei tKeteo^^ fta.^%', —
188
KOTES AND QUERIES,
14^ S. VII. MAncK
*' He rettered m o\it of oiirparfTfttory (the iepldarium ?)
ami carried us to our (lrei9iri;L;-room*, which jjave iis nmcfi
refreshmenl; afler we had been ntvusin^ in our own gruvj/.
Of couree the pTiraae is from some cookery book,
but the place wherein it is found makes it ciiriou3.
Here is an exact reference : London Spi/^ part ix.
p. 211), 4tii edition, Loiidoc, a,d. mdccix.
Ha IN Frisweil,
74, Great Euaaell Street, Bloomabun- Square.
Madame de Maintenon. ^- The rrincesse des
Uratns wroto to Mfldame do Maiiit<}non, on De-
cember 20, 1700 :—
"Jo sais bien ftLcht^e dc nc pas votis avoir fait part dc
dpujclottrea que Jai revues depuw mi an* T^ prfc^nierc
ikoit pour ra'avertirque voua traVii<*U'a VvtM por le com-
iiiurce T6g\i& que voun aviez avec la. reiiiR Anu^, r|ui
fiavmi qoe vous dtitiiz la mdJleure amie qti'eut le prince
d' Orange,"
This curious pjiasage, which is to be found in
Abb^ Millot'a Menroires poiitifptrs et fuiMfifWn pour
nermr rt t Hitttoire de Louis XI T et de Lotm XV*^
&c., and in the life and correspondence of the vama-
rera vimjor of the former {j^ueen of Pliilippe V,,
written or pubU.9bed by my irienda and colleagues
Mes,«5r9, Fran<^oia Cooibca and GeiFroy t, seems to
have been overlooked by the English bistoriana
who wrote on the events of the early part of the
eighteenth century. Miaa Ajynes Stncldand % does
not even allude to the allej^ed correspondenco of
the two female rulers of England and France at
the time r and Lord Stanhope, who dived so deeply
into the State papers offices of the two countries to
make a valuahle addition to his former works on
Enpliah history §, mentions only ouo let ti^r written
in 1712 by Louis XIV. to tjueen Anne, who was
ranch pleased with it, and her reply entrusted to
• Vol, UL p S78, Paris, 1777, 6 vols, 12mo. Thow
Memoirs compiled from oriKinol dncumenU collected, a-i
oxprpsscii on the Uile-page, by ** Adrien-Mauri<?e, due de
XiJd'dlM^, niankshal de Fra]iL*ti et ministry d'ELatr** aro
generally quot*^d under his name.
t Ltt Prlnrentk' tte» Unita^ ewtai mtr mx Vte ei »o«
Caractirrr itolititptf^ xkc, pp. 'JOS, 2f5^. Paris, 1856. 8vo
Lettreg imdite^ tie ta Princi^iie deM Urtimt^ recueUtiej^ et
publieea par M. A. JefTroy, p. *279. Paria, 1859, Svo, On
the 9th of Novemlwr, 1711* the Frineessc des Ursins
writes igaiii to Madami- de Mainlcnoii : '* Vou* n'ensstcz
paa cru pouvoir aioier »i ttndrcnu'nt la reino Anne,*' Ac,
and in another letter of Auj^ust *i7* 1714, she saya to the
Atme : " J<s craio^^ >f ndnmc.que len bruits qui courent au
nujet de la reine d'Anjjleterro ne soicnt que trop fondeV*
I^LetireM intditts de 3/»»« de Mainfmon rt de M>'*t-!a Prm-
teue deM l/rMtng,, Noa.CLXXXix et CCXIV, t. iv. p,403, 4G2,
Pari-s 182S, A voh, Hvo.
t Livet of tht Queent of En^land^ vol, xi, London,
1847,po»t8vo.
§ jffigtory nf Bntrland, C(*mprhin0 the Heign of Quemn
r<!^[
Ahhe GftuMcr. Now, can any of your readers
favour me with some information which woj^""
lead to the discovery of the correspondence 1
tween your queen aod Madame de Main tenon
it ever existed? FfiAiTClsaUB-Mlc
AtliRfiaium Club, Pall Mall,
''ApRks Moi LE DEtroB": Abchbh
Leigeton. — It seems strange to associate
name of an excellent, self-denying man withj
saying which breathes the very essence of selfi
ness ; but he only uses it as a quotation. Ap^
moi le deluge is sometimes attributed to Tali<j^_
rand, sometimes to Mettt^rnichj or to some other
worldly-wise stateanmn. The sentiment is,IfpM^
only too common ; but I seek to know who i
embodied it in tbese words, or in the analo,
phrase quoted by L&i|rhton {Commentary on ^
Epidle of Pder^ chap. iii. ver. 8.) lie says:—
** But viU aeUi^^hness undoes us, feir or none 1
fmrther; if tbem.felvtfji and thelrH mi^bt be secured, ho^l
niaiiy would re^tjiird Utile what Ijccamo of the iwt; II T
one said, JFhen lam. dtad^ let the wo rid b* fired**
Wlio ia the author here quoted ? I have OOt
Mr. West'a edition of Leightoa to refer to.
J. Blios.
[So lanp: aKO as April 1831, the late Doagbts htnU
(l« S. iii. 299)fttateil that the French mot was not Mft-
temich^ but (wherever hIio got it) had been jtpokrii lonjf
before by Madame Pompadour- A few page.^ furthicrw
iitfid, p' 397), Sir Georgre Lewis and otlitfr* sthuwetJ tbttt
H bad descended t^ m from the Greek. Tfcliu Mxatt^nitf
Walcott subae(|HRntly pointctl otit (1« S. v. (J19) (ip»*-
Bagfl in Cicero, De Fimhu», in which he refers to At
Greek proverb; and nfierwarda (xi. IG) showed m th*t
Milton, ill his Church Gavemment (Bk, I, ch, V.j, ttld
told how cruel Tiberius would wish — •
" When I die," let the earth be rolled in flamw "J
Bacon's Quekn Couwselshtp. — ^In the '*Lif«
of Lord Bacon/' prefixed to Rawley's Hm^txHtdiih
folioi 1061, 1 find the following : —
"Id thifi way, he wai», nfter a while, sworn, of t^J
Queen '« Counsell Learn eil, Kxtraordinary ; A gmee, (u
I err not,) aearee known before,"
I have preserved the pnnctuatioii| &c. exactl/
as it a tan da.
Can any reader of *'N, k Q." infonn t»«
whether this honorary deprree, or compliment, b*J
before or since the tiini^ of Bacon been conftrifd*
or whether it ia merely the origin of the Qtie^nt
Counsel at the modem bar ? C. H. F.
G. CAMrHAFSEJf. — I have an old pftiolJti?
signed, on a painted tablet (part of the pictm^li
*^G. Camphauaen, Stockholm/' When did ^^
live? Was he noted*? Any information aboti*
this artist will be most thankfully received by
T. S( A»
Lindoxe Abbey, Newbnrgh-on-Tay.
[In Bn'*n'8 />'ct ofPmntert (1849) it is Bt4te<j t>»**
there are several pictures in England by Kamphujiisfn ^^
CttmvWy*^^, but that they cannot Ihs by the pairjl'*'
\)€ftniig tVi^i ^«tmt liwaft '*V\Jci. ^X^t vavllals T. Ji^ who ^"
\
ho ir«» I
k 8. Til. BiARon «. Ti.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
18»
Vi ^---'■'r'r cm art would ever appear to
iVJ^^cts of Ui* paijitiug? arc gcne-
lias FAJiR3:ir'8 HorsE is GrivEN Street. —
uy of your correspond enta infarm me what
number of tbe hou&e in Gre«n Street,
Qor Squftn*, inbftbjted by Mbs Farrenj the
bolel)r»tcd aclTGss, in 171^6 ? Lord Orford mentions
BUpping there, in the Bixtb vobirae of bis collected
Lftier€ (ip, 415); and Miss lie ny^ in hi^r Jountal,
ofken refers to it When I was a l&d of seven-
leen I wfts iicqiimnted with the late Lord Car-
hampton (the Luttrell of Wilkes's day), who whs
then (as he said, to hk tatUf action) become " the
"Venerable Earl of Carbampton/* addinji/' See what
one gains by living ]on^%' He was one of the most
able men I ever Diet with. At a later period
\ intimate with Lonl Berwick ( ibe diploma-
I), Both these per^toua naed to i^ave of the
at of the actress, and Lord B, often said^ " -\b !
chajniing eimpera in Green Street, where
used to meet Miirsbal Conway, Lady Ailea-
y, Mj*. Darner, Gen. Burgoyne, Fitzpatrick,
la host of all the pie a^^int est people in Loudon/^
Leadded^ -'at the bow winmrn /www in Green
■cct*' But there are now more than one bow-
dow house in that street. She moved from
\ to be married to the Earl of Derby, Mtij 1,
7, &t 2^*?, Groiivenor Square — a house the the/
utTf of the architecture of Adam, and enriched
i ceilings painted by Angelica Kaulfman and
fl^ird Orford speaks of that^ too, in his letters
I liidy Ossory, describiug a ball there* (Vol. i.
t 01.) There I have seen Miss Farren ( Lady
'arly) receivings, at chamjiDpr music ptirLiea, tbe
irla of fashion with an elegance and grace that
oy of them might have done well to study.
iful house, I am told, is now pnn»*d
I ti some vandalism of Lord Westmiu-
liici, >>ii 1 i-i said to have wished all his botiaes,
I th^ lensea fell in, built on one model. The
riiiTT.v,.^ r fi... Jiouse in Green Street might be
old ** Court Guide " or the tai-
; :.,., but I have no means of access to
tb.H(., {^na noy of your corref^pondenta ohli^
Jease, in his entertaining book^ nor P.
I^ham, notice it, though they name the
i of Nell Gwynn, Mrs. 01dfi«!d, and others
^^0 have done less honour to the drama than
^i»beth Farren. H. W, L,
Homr, YrK 15, 1871.
^lUi- ledflt Nf». 15, Green Strtct, Grosvenor
^s Xtw t'iuhionuhk Court and Cttuutrjf
m:.-... ...... J
J BoiM vry FRA5KLny*8 Lafbel Wkeath.— Id
* the United Sfntts, Cuha^ and
U Ui>n.*AineliaM. Murray (London,
[fere, vv*UL Letter XTi. pp. 278, 2>9. Waeh-
10^,-100, Jan. I2r 1855 f see the ** Vitit to Mr.
Marcy'*), the following passage occurs : —
*♦ In his dmwiiiK-room theru it* an interesting picturc«,,
paintfd in the time ol Lc-ui^ XVL^ of tb« King and |
«^ue€n sitting ie their lirclc, while some gay ladies of the
court cfown Benjamin Franklin with a wrcttth of laurel."
I will be Tery thankful for tbe artist's name, if
known. ' Isaac Shbares,
llighljur\'.
GovEuNoHs OP Jamaica: Hancucke of Comb*
MAETJN. — Can yau or «iiy of your corresponden ta.
kindly inform me as to who were the go ve mora
of Juiimicu from 17:20 to 1700 ? I shotild al&o likti
to know where I could see a genealogy of the
fimiily spoken of by Burke as •* the ancient
family of llaucocke of Combmnrtin in Devonshire,
to whom arma were granted hy Cooke in 1552*'*
o.a
[Tlie Govemon of Jamaiea were— Sir Nicholas Law«0,
KiiL, ITlRi Henry Duke of Port land, 1722; Mujt>r-G«n.
Kokrt IluutiT, 172H; Honry (JuiminKham. Eso^ 173r> *
K«lwttrd Trdft wney, Ksfj.. 17;J8 ; Charles Knowlea, Kjw|,,
1752; George Haldane* Ew|., 17-^8; W. H. LyttJelon,
Ewj., I7G2.— b'or the genealogy of IJant^ocke of Conib-
irunrtin see Weatcote'a Deconshirrf edit. IHij, p. 500.]
Hampden Family.— The last male descendant
of Juhn Hampden seems to have been his great-
grandson, Richard, who died «. p. July 27, 1728^
and was buried at Hampden. But John Harap-
dotrs unde, Sir Edinund Hampden, of Brest-
wood, had, with other issue, a son, Edmund, who,
in bin turn, had etpht sons — Edmund, Thomaa^ I
John, Robert, Ricbnrd, Alexander, Ilenry» Leo-
nard. Of these, bo far hb I have been able to
aacertMn, only Kichard and Henry married. I
can find no issue of Henry's mai*riage'; but Richard
hnd fvur sons — Edmund, Richard, Griililh, audf
John. Of these I have found nothing beyond
their names, 1 should add, however, that my
opportunities of investigation have been rery
limited.
There are Hnm fid ens in our own dav claiming
to derive frum this ancient family. Where can
their di^scent he tiaced ? I went to identify ai^ ^
Alice Hampden, wdio uiufit have been born about
1700 — 1710, and who was etill living, a widow,
in 1773, The name of Alice occurs in the pedi-
gree, as I have it, four times : first in tbe person
of a sister of Sir Reginald de Hampden, living
1332, and lastly in that of the grand daughter of
Sir Edmund llamjHlen, of Prestwood, already
alluded to. This last .\lice must have lived about
the end of the seventeenth centurv, and cannot^
therefore, be identified with the Alice for whom
I am seeking. W. M. H. C.
Cj.an MoALriN. — Perceiving lately in youF
columns some notice of the supposed ejcistence of [
a clan McAlpin, may I ask any of yoar t^ti^^
conversant with the fe\i\>ie<Jt Vo wf ^Vsf*
beyond mere conjectare v)t "^ax^ UttS^vN^Q
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[4^a.yn-MABc»iiTL
18 any authority whatever for the statement that
such a cliiD ever had a ** local habitatioii and a
name ** ? The whole history of the Scotch dona
aeema as miaty na the an mm its of the Scotch
mountains. I suppose, if the McAlpinfl ever were
a clan, that they would have a chief, and thftt
the chieftains would have a pedigree, and that
there would be somewhere a cnieftain^s caatle or
stronghold. But where ia there any authoritv
tor aflirming' that the McAlpins were a clan, witn
a chieftain at their head, who had a pedigree
capable of hein^ rerilied, and a castle in which
the resided? The entire story deems mythical,
Sir Walter Scott mentions the name in bia Ladt;
of the Lake, it 18 true ; hut that, though very
poetical, aflords no evidence of the existence of
the clan. At the touch of the historical invest! -
gator, I fear, the whole fabric of invention will
vaoiah into '' thin air.'' Enquirkb.
MxBKa, Bishop of Carlisle, Ump. HrriiAnn
II. — Is not the high-Tory speech of this bishop
decided to be apc^cryphal ? (see « X. & Q.'* 4^»' S.
vii, 86.) Is there niiy earlier authority for it than
Oolinsbed ? Hume quotes '[vrmi Oie fehniouA ^u
John Haywarde, later still. The quei?tion is in-
teresting with regard to 8hakespi>are's play^ and
with regard to Queen Eli^tabeth. My Hhakes-
pearian note's (made years ago) lead me to the
conclusion that this speech is a late forgery, I
should be glad to find that Shakespeare's life-like
portrnit is really fmm the life. JoB3i Adbis.
Ru siting ton, near Uttlckiantpton, SfUtex,
Mutton attd Uaper.^ — Will any prson con-
versant in culinary lore inform me at what period
capm-s were first introduced as an accompaniment
to boiled muHon at the dinner- table ? I am led to
make this auery from stumbling on the following
passage in 8hakeapere*s Twdfih Night, Act L Sc. 2,
where that saltatory knight, Sir Andrew Ague-
cheeky exclaims, in the pride of his heart : —
••'Faith, I'caa oat a caper."
To which boast Sir Toby Belch gives this sig-
nificant reply :—
"And I c«n CM* «fte midUmto *f."
T. C. S,
^'OwLt THAT TiOviwT THE Bonmo Sky.'*-— Who
wTota these fine line?, which have reference to
the murder of Mr. Weare ? They may be found
in The Lyre (p, 38), published by Sharpe, Picca-
dilly, 18*J0, Stephen Jackson.
PLOuaH-BOTE.^-House-bot© signifies, I believe,
an allowance of necessary timber out of the lord'a
wood for the repair of a house ; hedge or hay
(haxa) bole for the repair of feuce.s ; fire-botc for
fire-wood. lint what is the meaning of plough-
boiep Does it sigmif an allowance of wood by
i&*« lord to A lesaee tor the repair or making <k
ploug-ba? "^ X, EL.
fPIough-lmte k the wood or timber allowed to a itnmX
for the repair of instratneiiU of buflbaiulrv ; or. a? HtAtoil
in TamlinVs Law Dictionary, ** a right of tminiit* to tmkt
wooJ to repttir ploughs, curt*, and hanroiri^ aad for m&k-
iug rakee, forks, &c. See 2 Qmm^ 35^'*]
Thk Poppa Bai, oe QmiEir of Misbthlk—
'* The Poppa* B«i« a priaoaM of andant timeA, vbcMa
miflmjuiaged sovereignty ha* girea rlM to the proTertiv
* Poppa Bal Kifc Rij,* or* Queen Poppa's govern ment, to
th© KijpaU,"— Col. Tod's AtuutU of Haj-A*tk6n^ i. 310.
What \» known regarding the capital and tisnea
of Queen Poppa, proverbial for her miiidouigi in
India? R. R, VV. JStuiL
StarcroBS, near £xet«r*
SHAJtEsrmABE: Epttaph on Sir Tsoitid
Staitlet.— Drake, in Shakettpfare ami hie Timte^
qiiotea an epitaph said to be written by ^lialie-
aneere on the tomb of Sir Thomas Stanley in Tang
cliurch, Salop, on the authority of Sir W, Dug-
dale, commencing —
** Aake who lies here, but Ao not w«T»e:
Ho is not desd, be doth but slee^te, ^ &c.
concluding —
" Stanley, for whom this stands, shall ftand in beatta*'
Do these lines still remnin on the monnmenti
and hM Xh*^ authorship been further autheDti-
cated ?
Thomas E. WiXNiJfOT05«
A SpiTTKjr LArRn.— What ia the origin of fbii
Scotch expression ? In illustration of ita lue 1
may give the following anecdote : —
"Dake Charles of Qae«i«l)crry, whoso appedflfikip of
*Gmd Duke' is not yet fnrgottea in Dumfrieashira »*
his Duchess * PrJor^s Kitty/ were onctt drlvitinf ffwn
Drafnlaurig Cnstle to Dumfries on an Section dsy* siMl
on pA.<^irije^ Closcbum saw Sir Jjtnies Kirkpstrick, irbs
was on ihe opposite side d politico, hast^ninx on
them» when tno Duchess, who seems to
Kirkpstrick, '
^t^ninx on
Iinvo Keen ;
poUUtnan, called to her bu^^bsudT * There _' Kirk-
pfl trick ; ordcT the postilion to drive i mre
will lick the butter oir our brusd,' L p n \\\wu i<>t
Duko milMly rcpliedt * Mindt my dear, that tbe K^i^*
mtricks were bejtcd knights nf iJloscbarn when w« ir«»
but spittcn f Lairds of Drutnlanrig,"
Thie lady waa t:elebrated for cxtnordittiV
beauty and wit by Fope, Swift, and p»irticuJ*t^
by Prior, in hia well-known ballad beginnbg-*
»• Thus Kitty, beautiful and young,
And wild 0* colt untauttd/*
At the funeral of the Priiicepa Dowager of Wili^
1772, her grace, walking as one of tfie aisiitrtti
to the chief mourner, occadtoned these ^^no^ V
Horace Walpole, Earl of Orford?—
•• To m/iny a Kitty Love his ear
Would for a day engage;
But Prior's Kitty, ever fair.
Obtained it for an age,"
a.k
Query, PttpU or the wicked qaeen.
^ tVa\ \u a laird of lower rank in life.
(^Scottisli Dlfl*tttiart| "^ \\ft*, ** %i^\3UMi, a pod/
4i^9L¥IL](ABC»4»71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
191
**HERa or THE WARiinfo-PAJi/^— In Bhunt
Tmnpt' 'W, I find this 9€Tjtt*nce : **IIere
(Hamp: . chap«l) the infant hero of the
winniog-paa received the rite of baptigm." Wlio
was thifl ** hero,'* and why the uame ? Will any
of your nnmeroua readers kindly enlighten an
^'"" ' birth of James Fr aixI
£t I L by Mary Beat! rm.
At — ..ih there wa» ill-fuu. . aour
thai the inftnc prince wu snppontitioiui, and introdaoed
InfB the ftu«M^> chamber in a wnnaiDg-paa, that he
ai%ht c ; princeaseSf Man* and Anne, from the
throne, Iicaiilays History of EnglantL, ii, 308,
aiUL l^:j ^ . _ iickljinds Queens of Unt^tatid, vu 213-
S48y«dtL ihif4. According to the latter writer, the prince
yna baptised ia the ehapel of 3t» James's.]
WnrxEL, OR Wtnwkll. — Amongst Loidale's
MS8. 1 find that a Thomas Wvnnell, who resigned
or abandoned the vicaraj^e of Leek in 1662, waa
the authnr o(A Covenanter^ b PUafor Infant Bap'
iitnu Now Bliss, in his Athenm Ojconienses, gives
one Thomas Wynnell as sometime minister of
Aakarwell, Dorsetahire, est *21, a,d, 1622, Battler
oi Fm«enf>«e, Eector of Cranham, Glosterahire,
1'' r of Covenant's Plea for Infants^ 1642 ;
ti: . Thomas Winnel, M.A., vicar of Leek,
kmp^ Uiiver, author of iSuspen^on Diactissedf
London, Oct 16.>7» Qua?re» are not thest? one and
Ibi tame ? and where can I meet with any of his
«r their works ? Joasf S'leioh.
t^robridge, Bakewell.
^ THE -BLUE LAWS'* OF CONKECTIcrT.
■ (1* a xi, 321; 4"» 8. vL 48^5 ; rii. 16, G-i.)
By the cnurtPFV of your correspondent NErnniTE
I li«ve hiid the opportunity of CArefullT examininpr
tlj Published Code of the ao-called "Blue Laws,"
i by him <'4***^S. vi, 48*5). I have alao searched
*ii the other authoritiea within my reach, and will
oow, with yoar permissdon, as succinctly as may
Wjjpresent the results of ray inquiries*
Xne volume in question has the title as fol-
lows i
** Tlie Code of 1G'»0. Iwing n Compiltttion of the earliest
l*tm 4)iti (iniir^ ,4 tin' * ii'iK^ral ( Vnurt of Conijecticiil ^
ict entered into and
trfford, nn*t Wether?*-
^riitir. F>atMi r^ from
N.v. -il, „v,-, ( , Inny,
Ob:
of the title 18 a certificate of the
I the ofHce of the district of
^ the copyright
"^vo of 127 pages: eight
r^f nineteen pages con-
-_^ T '— r'T^ — " —
"■Wag thid C-i»uatitution of 16^38, eighty-three
f^goi of Um Ooonecticut Code of 1650, and seven-
teen pages of extracts from the ancient records of
Newnaven.
The advertisement atatea tha^the work —
** Contains an ejtact copy of the Constitution and C^Kl#|i|
taken from the original record* in the Office of the Seen
tary for the State, preaerving the ancient orthograpb}'/
It is further stated, that the first revision of
these laws was never before printed.
No corroborative evidence ia presented of the
genuineness of the documents; nut the internal
evidence is decidedly in favour of their authen-
ticity. It is a little remarkable that your corre-
spondent X IL T,, writing on this' subject ia]
April, ia55 (1-*S, li, 321 ), from the State library
in Hartford^ in which town the volume before ua
was issued, should have altogether ignored it.
There is a rude frontispiece — a woodcut of »J
cona(able seiKiug a tobacco ** taker '* ; but this ia
a modern productii>n, the costumes being thoee of
the earlv part of the present century.
Now let us see what light we can bring to beair|
on the history of these acHcalled "Blue Laws."
The townships of Windsor, Hartford, ^id Wea
thersfield, on the river Connecticut, were the fin
settle m en ts in the country, and i^ the year 163
the iuhiiLltants met in public adsembly, and i
their own language did ^^Basocinte and conjoinol
themselves to bee aa one publique dt/tr tfr vofn^t
monweaUkf^ and laid down the principlei* of their
constitution. ^
Newhaven, on Long Island Sound, was colo-
nised in 16?JJ8; and on June 4, 1039 —
" All the free plantersi asaembled together in a general
meetinj^e, to conault about settling civil government
acctirdmg to God,^' Ac.
The Connecticut Code, foimded on the consti-
tution of ll>J>^, was completed and issued in 1650,
The Newhaven Code was framed ia 1655, and
printed in London the following year. The Con-
aeclicut Code, it ia stated, was not printed until
1675, from a revision in 1672. Now, in neither
of these codes are there the slightest traces of the
absurdities usually attached to the idea of the
" Blue Laws," There are no prohibitions againt»t
any person ** running on the Sabbath day, or
walking in his garden or elsewhene, except wver-
ently " ; nor ia any one prevented from ** travel-
ling, cooking victuals, making beds, sweeping
house, cutting hair, or shaving on the Hnbbath
day,*' Nor is any woman denied the privilege of
" kissing her child on the Sabbath or fasting day.'*
A husband is not prevented from kissing his wife
Sabbath or week day, when and where he pleads.
In fact, in the Connecticut Code there are no laws
at all bearing on the Sabbath. My sunniso, there-
fore, that the quotations usually given are a
literary imposture, is fully borne out by the ascer*
tained facts. The origin of the fraud is to be
found in A General Bidory of Comiecticttt by a
Gmtktnan of the Fromnce^ London^ U^iiV. 'Y^t^a
:92
XOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»»«8.VH, M4jscy4. TL
author is said to baT6 been the BeT* Samuel
Peters (a Tory and Loyiilii»t), who left the colony
at the brettltiiif^ out of the disturbances iu 1774,
4\nd revenged Iiimself on his compatriots by the
fabrication of the spurious documents iu question.
And now, having t^eon what the two Connec-
ticut Codes are not, lot nio as briefly aa possible
ftate what they really are. They are very valu-
uble illustrationfi of tliQ tone and temper of mind
of the stern pionet^rs who went out to people the
wilderness, and whose customs, manners;* and civil
and relijrioua opioions have been the normal types
jifter whicli the grtfat American c^immonwealth
ha3 been modelled. The founders of New Kupland
were resolute God«fearinpf men of the Roundbeud
utixmp. In the foundation of their institutions
the following principles lie at the base : —
1» Perfect equality and mutual responsibility
amon jT.-^t nil the memWrs of tlio commonwealth.
2. The identity of the Church and the State, with
the uecessarv corollary that all laws should be
founded on the Word of Clod,
S. The obligation of the civil magistrate to
enforce ecclesiastical discipline.
4. That the law should tflJce cognizance of im»
morality as well as of crime,
Thei<e principles wore logically and relentlessly
carried out into practice : sonietimes making one
fih udder at the tuthless sncHlice of human life,
and at other time^ raising a ^ndle at the ludicrous
minuteness with which the law intermeddled with
private affairs.
(1) The enactmenta of the Code breathe the
true spirit of freedom and equal rights, the system
of manhood auflrogo and aniuml elections contain-
ing the germ of the futiue institutions of the
United StatcJS. Several of these laws are far in
adrance of their age^ such as voting by written
papers^ freedom of deblors from arrest except in
case of fraud, kc,
(2) The Word of God was hold to be supreme
ia all cases not otherwise provided for by the law,
and all enact meot-s were supposed to be founded
thereon. Uufortunately it was tho Mosaic Code,
rather than the Gospel, which was resorted to.
Hence the punishment of death was awarded to
** idolatry, witchcraft, blasphemy, and adultery/*
for each of which Scriptural authority ia quoted.
Young persons above sixteen *^ cunning or smiting
father or mothor^ or not obeying their commands
after warning and chnsti semen t/* were to be put
to death. Man-stealiDg or kidnapping wua a
capital crime. Sternness might be panloned in a
state of society where it was necessary to provide
** that there shall bee a guard of twenty men
every Sabbath and lecture day, compleat in theire
armes, in each severall towne uppon the river.**
(3 & 4) The ecclesiastical discipline enforced
by the magistrate descended to the ordinary in-
tercourse of private life in the most minute par-
ticuIarR. At a court held at Newhaven^ Maj^^f
1000, two young persons, Jacob Merlin© an^*
Sarah Tuttio, were brought before the governor :
the charge being that, after some cbali*^ Jacob
had taken away Sarah's gloves. The record goe«
on to state that —
** Surah desired him to give her tbc glorcf ; to ^\i\
he answered he wnuld do so, if she vrciuld giva him
kywc^ upon which ih«y Rat down together, bif ar
betnf^ about lier waiste, lincl ber arme up<in hit Ahoulf
or about his neckc; and h* ky$5ed her^ and «Ae kr
him, OT ihev kynsecl one another ; continuinc in thU
lure aljirnt half an baur, as 3Iarian and Susan testifird,
For this grave offence, the governor read the
young people a severe lecture, and lined each of
them twenty shillings and costs.
Some of the cases are very sad. One given bj
Cotton .Mather relates of a man in Weymou'
about 1050 : —
** This tnaa Jivctl in nbominable adulteries ; but
at length j«niot« bini with a PalM«'. Hi* dead rol^e ma
nocompany'd witli a Quick Conscience, which compelled
hira to confess bi« erimes/*
By the law of the country adultery was then ^M
capital olfencp, and thin poor w^retch, evidentlJH
insane, was actually coovicted and hung.
One of the pivatest blots on the fair fame of the
Puritan New Eoglanders id their persecutioD of
the Q Makers. There i.^ only one authenticated
ca^e of Quakers being put to death, but that
hnd enough. Tho usual sentence on r«fracl
(^ti niters — who^ no doubt, gave trouble — was
ishment on pain of death. In lOoO, some Qtii
who had bt!en baniished returned to Boston/
were condemned by a general court to death.
Two of them were executed. A great clamouf
and excitement was raised, and the Inw waa
repealed. An almanack printed by the y oaken
in Pennsylvania in 1(1*. 14 has the following entrrr
" Since Ihi^ Eni^lish in New En^'lnnd h&ngcd tlieir
countrj'men for religion years Bti/*
One word, before I close, on the *' Bhw Lawi."
Why are they called hht\ and by whom ww
the name conferred P There is nothing in tb^
text of the Codes throwing light on the subject
In the Hartford publication the puges hended
** Xewbaven AntiquitieR or Blue Laws" iire iii>t
laws at alL They are simply extracts from thJ
registers of the court, detailing triah and ^-
tencep. That hhw is a contraction of hhodt/^ 1 do
not belieTe^ nor h there any reason to »uppo«
the term originated in the colour of the pftp*'
covers, like our ** Blue Books." The pMbjibibtT
is that, like tho pretended laws to which it ^^
applied, the tenn was invented by the retereoi
fabricator ; but as I have not seen his work, I
cannot verily this. I have to apologise for the
length to which I have been led, though ft Tety
interesting treatise might be written on tli«
subject.
4*8. VII. SUncu^,*:'-!
NOTES AND QUERIES.
193
It is desirable to "pltkce on record in the enduring'
pug^s of '* N. k Q,/* once for ftU, tbe true state-
mifot of facts about which there has been such
an amount of mtsrepreseDtation and folBehood.
J. A. PiCTON.
Saad^loiowe, Warertroii, near LiverpooL
EC5TATICS: TOE **ECSTATI€A" OF CALDAKO.
(4«*S. vi,476; viL 21, 123.)
The most elaborftt© account «>f the Ecdatica of
C&ldfuo b that contained in the following work : —
" T .1 the Earl of Shrewsbury to Ambrose Li^ile
?! , iiirscri[»tive of the Eestatica of Oiliinro
mi -L lurata of Caprmaa. Iking a Second VAl-
IJinw rvrieert and enlari^^d ; to which is ailded, the Uela-
tkfi ^f threo *viccossi%*e Visit* to the Ecstntica of Sadkj-
ttoo,iu May 1842." 8vo, London (C. Uolman), 1842.
An article ba*ed upon this book, and with
anfei of earlier Ec^taticfl and Sti|;rnmti8t^, will bo
found in th*> Churt^h of Eftf^laml Qiuirtcdy Rt^view^
tod was D- published in a pamphlet forta under
th« tiile of —
*l/»nl Shr<*w*burv'9 Mi ractilouft Virgins*" 8vo. Loo-
hm (W. K, Painter.' Strand), 1843, pp. 15.
' ' >r fiflit to tbe convent of Caldaro, to eee
lori — ** the Ecstatic Virnin of the famed
jvr ji — wa>« made by George Waterton, the cele-
Mtkd naturalist, who haa reconled hb imprea-
*^""- in the cuiious autobiographical preface to
: i] series of hb Ef^'i4Jifs on Xntiirai History j
- , l^S — a renew of which will bo found m
/ M/ r < Afftffftzine for December in the sarae year.
Ai ut the «ame period it was alle^'ed by the
^' ry l:ev, John Foley, president of SL Mary's
M! 1 CI I Cilliolic college at Youphal, county
' 'that Bimilar manife^tationa of mira-
;■> had been vouchsafed to the mem-
W^ vl tue c< liege. This waft atte.«^ted by other
frie?u, and an appeal made about the eamo time
*or p<.'cuintiiy support to the institution. The
^fiinir madt^ some noise, and the I'rotestant cler^ry
iiiii others demanded a thorough in vea ligation.
'The npinione of The Tablet, which I will not tran-
*<^^ibe from fear of givinj^ oflence, will be found
b the numbers of the 4th, 18th, and 24th Feb.,
1843; and these are reprinted, together with a
*>Jjiute bistoriciil summary of tbe whole affair, in
• pimpblet entitled —
"Tbfl EcAtattca of YnughaJ, compared vi"ith the Wod-
^of IheTyruI, in a Letter to the Kiu'ht Hon. tbe Earl
^ Sl»T*ir*huf V, l\y the Rev. John Ahiwt>rlh, Rector of
J«Jgha], Irtfantl.*''* iivov Londoa (l^aJton, Cockspur
5li»t), 1&43, pp. 7U
Il«?fepence may also be made to Dr. Herbert
Majo'8 *' Lt^ter^ on the Tnitha contained in
^iipukr Supt-r?^tition8*^ {BlGckwooiTs Magazine^
June 1847, p. UT^ii, in which allusion to the Earl
^f Sbrewabury*8 book is made.
William Bates,
BinaiDgham.
The inquirer M. D, will find full information
respecting the Ecstatica and tbe Addolorata^
usually mentioned together aa the II"dy A'irgin*
of the TyroU in a small work entitled Aulhmiw
AccoutUs of Dominica Lazzati^ (J-c, translated frtjtm
the German, and published by Bacon & t'o,, Nor-
wich, 1841. A more detailed account of both
will he seen in the LeUerfrom the Enrl of Shrmm-
bm'\i to Ambrose LUle Phillip/>s^ Eiiq.f London, 0.
Dolman, Ql, New Bond Street, 1B4L Thia LeU^r
extends over forty-four octavo paged, arid wuft
written from Munich, It has also atnking engrav-
ings of both these Holy ^*i^unas. The Addolorata
died April 4, 1848 j and Ecatatica January 11,
1808. ^^____ i\ c. n,
"£S" AND **EN."
(4«»'S.yi. 390,514; vil 60.)
5Ir, J. PAT3fE*8 language Is such that it hardly
merita a reply. However, as he has tbrsugliC
proper to accuse me of ** invention *' of a deriva-
tion, and of ** laying down rules " to support such
invention, I will make a brief answer. But Mr.
Pat5e may rest assured that if in any other re-
marks on my notes he has not recourse to more
courteous languagey be Fhall (to use a common
expression) " have it all hia own way " The
Greek derivation that he is at war with was (be-
fore 1 consulted Chastellain's little book) tha
explanation of a friend, the author of several
learned works and tbe professor at a foreign
university. It was from him also that the in-
formation marked by Mr* Payne 1, 2,3, 4, was
received, as* w*ell m the informntit-m about the
academic diplomas. I do not mention the nnnie,
because he objects. He says that, after reading"
Mr, Payne's note or reply/he doen not choose to
discuss the subject with him. He has been a
contributor to " N. & Q.,'' and is one of th*? most
distinguished scholars and philologists of the age*
I have no means of consulting the " grave " and
** noble'* authorities named by Mr. Payne. I
am a traveller, and the libraries of hotels are not
very extensive* But I find in a French Universal
Dictionary (apparently a number-book) belonging
to my landlord that there are two Ea-ses. Ono
is fiiiid to be " from the ' Latin * * or ex,'* and to
mean ** f/e = of " j tbe other is *^ an abbreviation of
m leg, "Es Droit/* whatever Mr. Payne may
pay to the contrary, is very common in French,
Switzerlimd and elsewhere. Turning over a lot
of cards that from time to time have been left by
Continental friends, I find several engraved ex-
amples. One of the first I stumbled on was
'* M. le Chevalier de V , Docteur ^» Droit."
I find one or two others with the&ame *' h Droit/'
but those with en are certainly more numerous,
** Docteur es Droit '* in the newspapers is as fre-
quent as ** en droit.^' Glancing at the exhibition
boards in three engmvera' windows, I find several
apecimen card^ of " Ph. D.s/' in aome of wliicla
the ^ ia u^ed^ while othei» haye the more usual
en.
If ^# ia a mere abbroTlalion, and only means en
let, it needs no logic to proTe that it is imprctpei
to uae it before a gingular noun ; but if it be mm
a w€frdf and as such signiiiea de^ there is no im-
propriety whatever in so u?ing it, and therefor© I
contend (modi^tly and not *u* cathedra) ^Ih^t French
or Swiss scholars do not commit any blunder when
<m their ungraved vi»itiiig" earda they choose to
say " Docteur es Droit " or *' ^a Philoaophie," If
Mb. Patste lives in a ne!g:hbourhood frequented by
foreigners^ and where there happens to be a ca^rd
engraver, I would, in concluding^ theae remarks,
advise him to inquire whether fluch tradesman
has not frequ«ntly printed ** es Droit " and " ^5
rhiJnsopbie/' and il' it hnt been done, to ask
whether such cards were not enj^rared conform-
ably to "copy." James Hesby DixoK.
I find the following passage in Ampere, Jlistoire
de la Fm^taimn de lit Laitpte fran^aise^ which,
being the work of a Member of the Institute and
Professor of Literature in the Colle|?e of France
(Paris, 18G0), I presume 16 one of some authority :
" L'jtncienne forme ffatii,'ai3e de rarticle Mi ' ae trouve
en Wallon, * li fr* re/ * le frere/
f t ** On trcmvc dnna un autre patoij fire know how
dialc-cta preserve words and forma which have slipped out
of the lat^r writtea and upokeo langnagQ] k fonne da
dati/t * ea gagv« ' (aiut jSageaX * ^ P^ ' (aux pieda).'* —
If this be correct, it seems to support what Mb.
Charhook informs us Cotgrayo says : " A pre-
position ever set fnifore words in the pbtral nnmher^
«a 'en* before tba*e in the *Yrtyfiirtr " ; and what
Mb* Patxb affirms against Dr. Dixon, that it is
mever found before a mm;ular.^^
" Bachelier es Arts ' * is aimply " Bachelier aujc
Arts," or rather ens arts.
One does not see how the Greek preposition eis
should find its way into a purely i«rench phrase.
The word ^*j in the phrase ^a ArtSj is probably
from the old French prepoflition «»*, from intm^
the fi haYing dropped out in pronunciation from
rapidity or careleiisness.* S. IL
FINDERXE FLOWERS.
(4»*' S* vi, o44.)
In the Jonmnt of HoriieuUtfre for July 29^ ISm,
there appeared an interesting paper bearing this
title, '* Fmdeme Flowers." The anonymous writer
quotes at greater length from Burke ^s VicUiUudew
of Faimlks than Mr. Pearson; and as it may be
new to many of yoiy* readers, I venture to copy it
out — first fltating that through tiie paj^es ot the
above-named journal I made Mb* Pbabson's
* See Ampere, p*292» note.
inquiry, ** WTiat are the names of theao flow«i«,
planted so long ago by the good old Cruttdsf^
and which bold so fast to bit ancient garden^ now
only a field P " To this question I reoeiTed no
answer,
" The hamlet of Findeme. in the parith nf Middiorfrp
ahout four mi lea from Derby, waa for i rilioni
the chief residence of a family who • >- uaxB«
frcim the place of their patrimony, h nne (
Edward I. to thtiam of Heorr VIII*, when the male 1
bc^/ime extinct, and the estate passed by the marnig!»4
the h«ir«99 to tho Harpurs, the bouw'of Findenw j '
one or th<' moflt diatin^nL^hed in Derbyi^hire. Bfe
of It hatl won their -^'tira in the Cruaadf»i, and at i
and at Agincourt, The sons were brave, and the d
tcra fair : one, ata<! \ wa:} frail as welt aa fair, sad tin
heaviest blow that ever fell on the timt^-bononrw! rati
was when Catherine Finderne, about the miildle ot ills
fifteenth century, consented to be th« mi*itress of Henry
Ijord Grev of Codnor. In the remarkftble will of Cbit
remarkable nobleman, who in 1463 obinined a !
from the king for the tran.';mutation of ' '■'^'. "r«
is made for his iile^tintate issue by < i
which were, no doubt, deemed unexo ; in tboat
day!*, bat which would be deemed Jii^hly otTensivf a
our own. Thp territorial posses^iioas of the Findtnal
were Urge: the f iodemes were high Aherifi^ oecasitfiiaUy
ranj;;cr8 of Needwood Forest, and custodians of Tslboqf
Castle, and thej nwtched with many of the best faiailiea
Findeme, originally erecte«l tempore Edward I., sad
refltored and enlarged at different periods, was in IMS
one of the qnakitest and larf^t mansion* ^-^ *» -^ - ^T'tiaada
Thf pro^ynt *_'hurch, then the family t n^wsaf
mon u men tal bra*?ws and ai tar tombo-- a i i . i ^ of (1m
Findemes. In 1850 n pedigree reseaicb caused la* to
pay a vblt to the Tillag;e. 1 sought for thia iincMBi
halt — not a. intone rem aimed to tell where it Itad atoodt
I enteretl the church— not a eio^a record of a FimlMBl
waa there ! I ftceostevl A villager^ hopinsr to ff!ean •ome
stray traditions of the Findemes, *Flii
' wc bwve no Findemcs here, but we h -
once beloni^pd to them; we have i;.,, ,,,, .-
* Show tne themt' 1 replied : and the old man led nw iT'
a f)ekl, which .still retained faint traces of temieiii
foundations. * There,' aaid he, poiotio^ to a |
p^arden flowers grown wild, * there are the Fii
Sower?, brouf^ht by Sir Geoffrey from the
and do what vre will, they will never <lie ! '
** Poetrv minifies more with our daily life tbaa tw
apt to aiiknowledge ; and even to an antlqaary,
myself, the old man's prose, and the subject of it» i
the verj' e^aence of poetrj^
*^ For more than three hundred years the Finrfi
have been extinct; the mansion they dwdt ia
crumbled into dost; the bras and marble iotendtil
perpetuate the race had paaaed awny ; and a little i
flower had for ages pre^rved a name luid a moM
which the elaborate works of man's hand had fkiWI
rescue from oblivion* The moral of the inritl^tiil
beautiful as the poetr\% We talk of the ' '
tiowersj' but of the eloquence of flower* '
such a striking example as that presented lu
of Finderne : ^-
* Time, Time Ms witheriag hand hath laid
On battlement and tower ;
And where rich banoers were displayed.
Now only wavea a Eovrer.*
These are the intuieating woida of Borke oa 1
flowers/*
I A275A.]
' Bockeaham.
4^&TU.IUscn4,*Tl.]
NOTES AND QUERIE&
1«9
in sei
i^ S, vii, 7G, 128, 17i»/)— I am
f T^RO Verflam for his kiDdoess
t the story of Lady Anue Grim-
.^tv* It remains a curious example
dt Um growth oif a legend out of a natural^ phe-
aoQMi&OD ; to be cliiJstMi with the 8tory of NioWs
tHTBy which, jilreruiy before Homer's time, had
pown out of the dripping statue in Mount Siny-
fnfl ; the storr of the tmnsportatinn of 9t. Catha-
rine's body to Mount Sinai, which hftd grown out
of the munimy-like protuberance of rock on the
atunmit of Mount St. Catharine in the Arabian
PaniDBtUa ; th<^ story of the Nympha and Pana in
tltt Corycian cave, which grew out of the stalac-
tite fiirures in the limestone rock; thestory of the
impmoned ^ant^ under Mount Etna« or of the
/hrctw of Acia by Pohphtimu?, which grew
r the eruptions of that volcano, A. P, S.
kbt's Muudkrers: Somkhsetshtre Tra*
i^..;^>s (4^'* S, vii. 33, 171.) — My account in
tile QiMtrterit/ Ilei^itw has since been corrected and
inltmid in the es^ay on " The Murder of Becket ' *
m ^dorical McTnorialg of Canterbury CathrdraL
A. P. S.
BTisrr ox PiCTTRJB CAJrrAS (4** S, Tii. 97.) —
f i ries I have made I doubt if any govem-
; p was ever imposed upon the canvas
uaed for pictures, as picture canvas^ and suspect
Rtk stamp was affixed only under the Acta which
iaraoi^ duties on linens generally. Ail linena on
ynA cxjcise duty was paid were Btamped. The
f * — '^ - memoranda may be useful to those who
prosecute this inq^uiry more fully than
Dm duty on linens seems to have been 6r9t
iBKfm*^^ J'l Tn Anne, cap. 10, the sixty-ninth
dta» 1 imposes upon all linens and stuffs
(Vltli eeptions) to be printed, stained,
; !, a duty of three-halfpence for
«t r lii^th, reclconinj^ yard wiJe ; while
tii clause directs the commissioner,
. h i V 20, 1712, to provide proper seals
#ltut>^ Uit marking ailks^ caUcoes^ linens, nod
f 24 Geo. in. aei?5, 2. cap. 40, for
liijesty additioniil duties on linens,
■ (', stained, or dyed, the commis-
-^ are in like ra fin ner directed by
Hj or before Oct. 21, 1784, to provide
and stamps to denote the charging of
ips are only found on pictures
^t T ^k-^...],' ^uf?pect that at that
i rotation may have
. : j,.j,uted/* which in the
- simply another form of ** dyed,**
whkh was to be *^ puiattKl '' wna
considered to come tinder the Act, and as aucb be
liable to duty.
It would be well if possessors of pictures beanno^
the ifovemment stamp would record in *' N. & (i, '
the dates of such stamps. W. J. T.
This information waa supplied to '^N. & Q,'
within the last six yeara. X cannot give the refer-
ence. An engraving of the Excise Olfice stamp
was inserted by wuy of illustration.
Albert BtriTERT.
[There must be some mistake as to this reply having
fipi^eared in " K, dk Q."; no such woodeat certainly was
ever iojcrtetl,]
Mahommedantsm (4«»» S. vi, S23, 448.)— This
has always been considered a perversion of Chris-
tianity, one of the numerous heresies which
abounded in the sixth and seventh centuries. As
represented by Gibbon^ Alahomet regarded his
retijdon as a further and perfect development of
Christianity, Thus with him —
*'Th« Aotbcirity raid station of Adam, Koah, Abrahanit
Mosea, Chmt and Mahomet riae in just gradation abovo
eat'h other ; but whoMwver hates or rejects ajiy ouo of
the prophets is numbered with the inlidek." {Dedine
and Fnli, cap. 50,)
And again (cap. 51) —
" The diseiplea of Abraham, of Moaw, and of Jcstii
wore aol«nitily invited to accept tlie more perfect re vela*
lion of Matiomet \ hut if they preferred the payment of
a moderate tribute, (hey were entitled to the freedom of
cioDflcicacc and religioui worship,"
In contradistinction to Magians, Jewa, and
Christians, whom the followera of Mahomet termed
the People of the Book, were the llarbii, qui
tolerari nequeunt These (Gibbon quotes from
Belaud) are —
" L Those who, be^fie* God, worship the mkn, moon^
or idols; 2. Atheists, Utriquev qitamdiu prinMps sliquis
inter Mohauimedanod auperest, oppugnari debent daneu
rdi^onem ampkciantar."
The Mahommedans regard themselves nniver-
aally as Unitarians (" the proselytes of ^lahonoet
from India to Morocco are diatinguisbed by the
name of Unitjirians/' Gibbon, cap. 50), and there-
fore the statement that ** no Mahommedans have
hecome Socinian Christians" is evidently true.
The most philosophic view to take of Mahomme*
danism is to deem it a heretical form of Christi-
anity. PKLAorus,
Bartolojcao Diaz, the Disco vexes of thb
Cape Eoute (4"" S. vii, 102.)— Mr. Chablrs
Navloe is undoubtedly quite correct in saymg
that the honour of this discovery belongs to Bar-
tolomao DiaZ; and not, as I said, Vasco da Gama ;
and 1 feel much obliged for bis kindness in put-
ting me right ; but there is, I find, a considerable
ditierence of statement as to the year in which
this very important discovery is said to have been,
effe, '
I
I
I
196
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»»»S.VII. MAftcu4,TL
Antotiio Gal ran o, who died in 15^7, ia hU
Diiwo vents of the World j Bays: —
** In ihe year 1486 the king Don John sent on this
discovery Barttiolomcw Diaz, m gentleman of the court,
with three sail. Constini; alonir, ho placed pillars of
ptouc, and discovered thu Cape of Good IJop«, nnd beyond
as far ^ the river Infante ; nnd it may be mid that ho
naw the land of Indiw, but, like Moses and the promliJed
lftnd;»did iu>tenti?riu." — Jiisconeriet o/thr Worid (p. 77).
l^itftint, impciisH H. Biahup, 1601 ; republished by tho
Hakluyt Society by Vicc-Adiuiral Bethuno, C.B., 18(j2.
Til 8 account given in the Dictiotmaire htdorique
(Pans, 1810) says;— ^
" DiA/, (Uarth«ilemi)» navi>:rat«tir portOKaia, qui de-
couvrit en 14G(> un cap ii rextrtfmit^ mtfridionale de
rAfrique. nuquel il doriniile tmni deCap deATotirmentc^ ;
mala quind il rendit camptc de sa docou^erte au roi ^a
PortU|;dl, Jenii II, ca prince chaugea ce nom en cdui de
Cflp dt! lluiinc E!i|HTaT:c«;,"^ —
wticb Would vaxihi the discovery to have occurred
twenty yuars before 148^1, the year to which it is ,
assigned by Galvnno. During Ibis internieditite
period, it IS to be supposed that he must have
mtide other voyage^*, an account of which may
perhups bt? found: if 14i>0, the earlier date dven
for the discovery of the Cape route can be venlied.
K. K, W, Ellis.
StarK'rofap neur Exeter.
Tm DE\r Old Woman (i"^ S. vii. 75.)— I
Buspect it is with the lines quoted by G. as with
innunjerable other old ditties and sayings, that
all attempts to discover the iiuthors of thetti would
"be fruitless. Moreover, there are usually several
different forms of thenij as is the case with the
liues under inquiry. I used to hear them half a
century and uiore ago, from an old Che&hire man,
recited thus : —
(i» It loud vnke.^
"'Old woman, old woman, I'm Koiug a^shearini;.*
* Speak a little louder, sir, for Tm hard u* hearing/
{In a itiic poict.)
* Old woman, old woman, I lovu you dearlj.*
' O Chat*ji a bonny lad» now I hear you clearly/ *'
Thou I remember hearing, in StatTordshire^ the
same humorous idea expressed in another form —
(Lmtd,)
•• * ^ekel, Zekel, will ymt treat me to n pint 0* drCnk ? '
• What did you aay, Mister ? '
• Zekel* Zekel* shall / treat you to a pint o' drink ? '
• 0 yea, if you pkasej Mibter I * "
R C. IL
This WM sung by my grandmother in 1826
thus : —
** * Old wnmnti, old woman, will you go a-itheanng ? '
* Speak a little louder, su, Fnivery hard o^ hearing.*
* Old woman, old woman, m&y 1 come and kiw you ? *
* Yg0, and tbuok you kindly, air, and (jod Almighty
bless you.' "
Stobt ascribed to Theouore Hook (4*** S.
Tii, TS.J—Tliia story^ may have been told by
Theodore Iloolt, and perhaps he put it into Hio
form quoted; but the joke itself ia far older tbiui
his time, and is, I fear, aft^^r all, but an old Joe.
For 1 have long known it in what, 1 susptjct, wa»
its firi't simple shape, thus : —
A Yankee was walking with an Irishman oq
the road to New York ; and thioliing to roast hi*
companion, said to him: ** Where would v-u bx
now, Paddy^ if the devil had his due ? ■ * ** 1
replied Paddy, <*rd be walking by mv.
New York.^' ^
Art ^
This reminds me of another witty answer of
Irishman worth recording. The late Marrjuii
Anglesey coming up to some men at work io '
grounds, thus addi*eHfl«?d one of them, who was an
Irishman : '* Now, Paddy, here's half-a-crown for
you, if you'll tell me the truth in answer to i
question I shall ask you." The Irishman p>-
tested that he wouhi" "Well, then,*' said I'm
marquis, '*i:f the devil were to come now iVir m
of us two, which would he take?'* ''Intvi
then, my lord, he'd take me." ** You shan't iuiv^
the half-crovru; I know you don*t think tliut'
**0 Tfe»p I do, my lord: he'd take me when l^
coula get me ; isn't he sure of your lordship nl
any time ? " The marquis gave him the hill-
crown, and rode off laughing heartily.
This may seem too good to b© true ; but the
person who related it to me had it as a fact ifoni
Lady Anglesey. F. C. E
Lord Plukkkt (4*'» S. vii. 93.)— Sureh T ^.
Phinket (so his name should be spelt) caii;
immached as uttt-ring "nonsense " in the
of Time with the hour-ghtss and the pcyth
metaphor could he more *' germane to the m
The Statutes of Limitation in respect •
were ohviou4y founded on the supposition u >
roan might have lost bis original grant tltrri/iJ
the "scythe*' of Time, and proposed to m
for the loas by a title derived from len-
possession. The ** muniments" of whicl
Flunket spoke were tho^ which eviden
title in question. As for muniments wli
up any other title, neither the metaphor i
statute interferes with them, except so far •
latter meets theni with a preferable title.
C. G. PBowm.
Garriek Club.
ClNUBKELLA AND THE GL4S8 SuPPER (4** S.
vL ti8::),)^Tho Itnlians have a similar stoiTp
which has been turned into a musical Stentereflft
play. The lord of the village gives a grand £8to»
The snow is on the ground ; and a slipper is dis-
covered on the following day. The loid MJ*
that he wiU marry the owner. AU the femik
guests (including several old women) m./
JlUing attempt; but the shoe only lit& Uu
one, a poor village girL Stenterello (for he i.^ ibt?
lord) makes good his promise, and this weddimg
NOTES AND QUERIES.
197
lecmcliiclefl the drRHia, The piece is very popular,
And I bare ^itneesed it at thri.'e differeiit theatres
in Florence. The name of the heroine I forget,
but it is not Cinderella. I do nAt siippofie that
ihe Italiacs can go back to either ^i^Iiao or Stmbo
for the origin of their play. 1 merely mention
the above version to t^now that the legend is
widely diffused, and is found in diirerent coun-
tries, with variations to suit localities and cus-
toms. Me, 5fAC Cabe's version hoa a very con-
, vincing air about it* Jamtj^ llKyfiY Dixoy.
\ Old PnixTa op Stonkhewge (4*^ 8. vii. m^
170.) — David Lo^gan practised bis profession in
Lomdon; where, as late as 1688, h« produced a
*OTk illustrating the I'fiiversitj of Canihridge.
Tltf date of bis death does not appear, t In ihe
Bfoitttes of En ff land and Walen^ tuo li^t of pub-
I Wed views, kc.^ at the end of the Wiltshire
'^ ^ i'nntains a notice of two views of iStone-
Drtvid liOggan, from the we?tand 80Uth,
i.uL Lu utite is given. Coniddering the date of
Leon's birth, and the period of his reMdence in
^on, it is, howcTer, probable that the views
published towards the latter end of the
ith century. A. B. Middleton.
SaHAbui5%
AL\-^13 MtBAL (4»'» S. vi. 27a)— The
were omitted from one batch of medab
ben the names of the ckimanta were
ithe authoritiea no dates of the respec-
be« were attached ; and as the collection
i€ed nominal lists would have caused con-
ilc delay and consequent disappointment,
v« thought advisable to iasue the medals as
Jtacribed. J. W. F.
BLACK-COtnTTRY LBGE5D : "ThE PfRCT
lEs" (4'*' S. vii. 7L)^In The Ptret/ Antx^
ii. 448, edit. 1868, the Btory k told of
il Bltifh. Dales are not given, but it is
at he was then a captain in a marching
int, that he kept the watch to his death,
it by will with a large fortune to his
tbe Dean of Elphin, Tht Pmqt Anecdotes
n in 1820, and finished in 1823; so,
time for promotion from captmu to
WUfTtl, and the accumulation of a large fortune,
hhink the event belongs to the la^t century.
it the Anecdote of George IlL'sdewinag that no
Totv.i J.,,ifLi },|j taken of a robbery if committed
:& man traditional or from a book ?
. . . 4iall be obliged by a reference,
t^ T/y* JWci/ Anecdote are now befi>re me I
Il the opportunity of asking for two more re-
* TliltMs loTk««Det during carnival time mar olwavA
kibt yl^ at tbt Hoenini, the Kanonale, and the MAna
liilik thtatfoa.
;t Pairid Loggaii died in 1693.— Ed.]
*' Wnlpolc characterised cert a fa lUGinoirs published In
hb day 8!i ' worlliy of tjcinfy inserted in the bblory of
mankind ; whioli, if wfill chonen and %vdl ^vritten, ^C>uld
prccerle commnn In^inrie*, wlijcb »rc but rept-tiUona of
no uncorninou events.' " — Pre face ^ p, iv.
** A popular writer ha« well chariicterised thl* f^njoy-
mcnt : ♦ we who do not know our next-door ndghbutira'
names/ ** Ac. — Id,
What are the '* certain roemoira" ao big hi j
praised by Walpole? Who is the "popular
writer " ? It would bav<j been quite as ea^y to
give the title of the bonk and the name of the
popular writer, FlTZHorKLjfs.
Uiirrick CIuU
TnoMAs IlooD (4*'' a vii. ^^.^-^ The Saturday
lievteiv'i^ citfllion from Hood*s ** Lee Shore"' ia
correct, 8r,'a manifestly the contrary, lu my
copy of Hood (^oxon, 1840, ii. 2) the entire verso
stands thus:^ —
*' Let broad leagues diaMrei*
liini froQi yonder foam ;
Oh» God 1 to'ihink roan ever
Cornea too near hia home t **
T, W'Ea-nrooB,
Drtden's Agreement for nis Virgil (4^*' S.
vi, 275/) — I remember seeing this agreement in
the house of Sir Thomas Laiwi-ence in Ifassell
Souare in a frame rmd glass. It was sold at tbe
s^ale of bii^ eflecta, June 10, 1830, for eight pounds
eiglit ^hillings to llogers (probably th« poet)»
What became of it afterwards I know not.
J. R. B.
Lord Byron's '* English Bards/* etc. (4**" 8.
vl passim: vii. 2:J, ICHl)— Would Mr. J, IL
Dixon kindly refer to the authority that attributea
to Lord Byron the lines —
"0 Gemini!" *c. ?
The writer of this note has always understood
they were Theodore Hook*fi, with a slight varift-
tion: thus —
»*or,eniiai. rrimmi!
Whiit A nituini piiirini
Iliuie iilj«ut Himitii I "
811.
Orders of Knighthood (4*** S. v. vi. passim ;
vii. 100/)— CwYRM overlooks the fact, that even
the qualificAtions, heraldic and geiieidogical, of
the knights in question are only ex^parU state-
ments, and the datt4s which he augf^sts would
have to be allowed by the sovereign doing one of
two things — either condoning and confirming^ a
breach i of ,her own prerogative, or inventing n
*^ modern -antique ** to suit tbe convenience of a
few uncritical subjects. Moreover, before bring-
ing forward such pretensions, each knight would
have to pa« through the preliminary ordeal on
Bennett's HilL How many could face their ovm
(Standard of lineage ? S.
A EECTQRaHip OF Eiohty-Ont? Yeahs, axd
Pabish Reoistebs (4"» S. vii- 6<J, 97.)— -Your
198
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«> S. TIL
ti,Tt.
correspondent IL F. T. liaa mvGn the true way of
Bhowiog the mistake of attributing excessive lon-
gevity to Elizabethan and Jaraesine incunibenta.
There is a very good example in thid neighbour-
hood. The regiiters of Birtsmorton be^iu in 1539.
Tothfttveftriaaffbced the signature ** Willin Clarke,
cler," lie goes on signing till September 7, 1624,
when ho enters a. btintism with his signature " p.
me Willmm Clarke Rt»ct ibid/* Thus his signa-
tures extend over eightv-tive yearw. This fact
alone would be tolerably convincing; hut in
Nash's WorcesterBhtre are to be seen the names of
the rectors who preceded Clarke, whose registra-
tions he must have transcribed. I>. P*
Stuarts Ladge, Matrcra Welb.
Leigh: Ilu^r's *^ Leisuke Houks ts Towit '*
(4^'' S. vii. 26, 132.)— No work with this title was
ever published by Lei^h Hunt. I havf all the
writings of this author, amounting to some forty -
seven aeparate works, besides many papers in maga-
zines, &c.y which have never been reprinted or in-
cluded in any of hia miscellaneousi collections, and
there Is not only no volume, but no detached essay
of his with theabove title.* Alex. Irelwtb.
Inglewood, B<>wdonj Chwhire.
CorscEDEuoE OE THoroMT (4"» S, vii. 03.) —
The thought of Dr. Johnson, that " no one does
anyiJung for the lad time (knowingly) but with
regret," has received a further homely illultration
in Don Juan^ canto ii. 14 :— *
*^ At leaviDj^ eveD the utoet unpleAsant people
And places, one keeps locking at the steeple/*
El>WABI> NOKMAJf.
45» Besaborough Gardens, S.W.
Trench's fliniiKAy LKCTtiRKs/1840 (4*'' S. vii.
78,) — The reference most be to Goethe a Faust ^
part 1, «c, i. It is well known that the Arch-
oishop is a student and admirer of German litera-
ture. Surely Easterw is a miBprinfc for Easter.
E, E. M.
" Veritas tx Puteo " (4*'' S. vi. 474 ; vii. 108.)
There is, I think, clearly an allusion to this pro-
verb in thi? Irrmo Geniilium Phitofophonem of
Hermiaa, S. vii. In canvassing the varioug
• 1 am dcliixhted to ae« ttiat Blesars. Smith, Elder, &
Co. are publisliing cheap yet elegantly printed editton« of
some of the writinKsi of this chftimmg author. Tvro or
three volume** raight be devoted to reprints of oitiiyB and
flketchea by Leigh Hunt, which at preaent lie entombed
in files of old nowspapem and miigazitiea rai^y looked
into hy the most adventurous and pendstcnt reader. It
would be doing a aorviee to the ** gentler literaitire " of
our ccDtwry to exhame these miscelliniefl. Mr. ilotten
gubliabed at a cheap price a little volume of SelectiouB
om llant*9 Indicator , with an excellent introductioQ
hy Mr. Edmund Oilier, than whom there could not be a
better etUtor ; bat Hanf s aduiirers will not feel that jus-
tiee has been dime to him until at lenAt half-a-dozen
Tolumed of hii Mitcdttmeoim Euajf* Jiukine have beat
^Ven to the public
opinions of the heathen philosophers, aod among
thoee of Democritua and Epicunia, io the aectiiOD
immediately preceding, he comes at leagtil to
those of Kleunthcs, and says, —
*AAX* h KXt^^t k-wh rov ^piarot iirdpa^ t^p ir«^aXir,
But Kleanthcs raifiea his head from the well and dfr-
ndcA your doctrine (Epicnras'a), and I, too» derive titu
principliifl from the same ftources ai he doea^God «bI
matter. ^M
Kieanth^a was a stoic (philosopheri a natire f^^
the town of Asaon in Epirus, ana bom about 3^
B. c. It ia said of him that he waa §o poor v
*' to he forced to draw water in the night-time for
his maintenance, that he might stick close t-t bi«
study all the day.** It ia not impossible t]is
«itory may be the true foundation of the | r
in queelion, and that it is erroneously attribute li : i
i)emocritU3. As for Hermias, from whom I ht^yt
quoted, very little ia known of hira. By some be
is supposed to have lived in the second^ by othea
in the fourth^ centurir. He was a close foUeiw
in his views and sentiments of Justin Martyr iod
Tatian the Assyrian. Edjcund Tew^ MJL
Patching Rectory, Arttndel.
The original Cfreek^ iv BvB^ ydp ^ iiXfie^ wiS
be found in Diogenes's La^tius^ ix. 72.
WrLUAM Aldis W&tfiOX.
Amsricak " Natiokal Song '' (4"' S. taJl^
78.) ^-~ In the fifth verae ia a misprint — the itt
line should be
•• Colnrabia can array a band."
The song is snid to be by the late Rev, Mr, P»-
body J Unitarian clergyman^ but this is not oertiiB»
If.
*^ Poor Mrs. Hart " : Kitty CLrrE*s Lsnil
(4**- S. vii. ^j.)^'' Mra. Hart/' mentioned m Kittf
Olive's letter^ was perhaps the actress alluded 6
by Churchill in hia J^ascuul —
<' With transient gleama of grace Hart cwet ps aldOi;*
IL W.L
Geohge Neatll^ Lord LArntFR (4*^ 8. tii.
96.)— Tie was fourth son of Kalph Nevill, Ewlflt
Westmoreland^ by his second wife, Joan BeatifoTt,
daughter of John of Gaunt, and married ElixaWtii
yoiiTi<re8t daughter of Richard Beauchamp, Btfi
of Warwiek, and coheir to her ni other, EUiatoth,
daughter and heir of Thomas, fifth Lord Berbelej*
by Margaret, daughter and heir of Gerard \Vsrr«t
Lord Lisle. (See Collinses Pteroife^ edltii liy
Brydges, v. 155 ; iii. mi ; and Barke> EMlkd
Pt^ragen^ third edition, p* 60.) G* M. f*
SaioEiNo Illegal {4*" S. vi. 384, 485.)— b
some towns in Prussia and Austria aaKhkiiig i*
prohibited in the streets. The Canton d» Va^
Switzerland, has in its Grand Conseil and C^oi^J
d'Etat recently diwsiissed the propriety of taxiag
<■ & TTL Mavch 4, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
X9»
>e
It 19 proposed ttiat erery emoker ehall
kive imposed on liim a tax of two frftncs per
•jumm^ imd thnt all itndcr fourteen Tears of age
ihjill be p^^lubitcd Crotn smokinjf. The practice
is becoming a tno^t int»l*:*rable nuisance ; and at
LauMume hcey^ of six years old are met eveiy day
finokixig pip^ or dg^ar^. A Kmoldng tax is quite
aa ^TCf^mx tui a gun or armorial tax, N,
Bowers IIaia. Estates, Essex (P^ S, v, S59,
436.) — la reply to Mr. Kr83ELL*8 inquiry aa to
tbe pooacMoorB of Bower HalL In 1632 the owner
W9m HtevenSt Esq,, who bad great posses-
tjorift in T Jncolnsbire, From him it passed to hia
(1; V The wife of Major Walton. Her son,
t proprietor, is not now residing at
IvfWf r Ji.ill. He is mnrried, and bus two sons
(mill ore),
T-. .1. sr^ji^Q y^^ (1832) there was ainotigst the
'r dftl^d 1(555, from Olirer Cromwell
lo M,*j iijiph »nd Mifirhty Empcrour Sultan Mahomet
Han, Chief Lord rnid ronimanrjc^r of the MasBUlinaa
KiQ^ttm« Sole aod goprcme Monarch of tli« Eaitinie
It was intended to haTe been sent by Sir
Tbooaaa Bendifih, fumierly ambassador at the
IWte, but his illness and deatli prevented its de-
Etwt.
T!i^ !f?tteT was shown to my ^end by Pike
l>q., of Haverhill, and a copy was at
\i. , and ia now in my possession. Euln,
^ FttiAL PrETi' (4'*» S. Tii, 121.)— 'V\lien living
IB the neighbourhood of Bilston, long years ngo,
I nied to bear a story still more jlluFtrative of the
Ulttf absence of lilial reverence than the one
Klatad by Moorlaxd Lad. A gentleman wieh-
m$t t^ frnd out a collier, whose name I believe
V :u Green, and having come to the pit
t^ ' had been directed^ inquired for the
man ul various persons about the pit, but no one
Ww Mjy sut^h a collier. He asked again and again,
tad was assured that the place was quite rtght^
but that no William Green worked there, or was
louiWD to any one about the coalpit. He was
iboQl to tiixn back in utter disappointment^
when a aturdy collier wench auddenly exclaimed :
'*Whoy, dash moy boottona ! if hay doe&na' mane
nun farther: yo should a axed for aud blue-
laichei." E, C. IL
*' " T" " *' QTjorr.D nv Bt^tler (4**" S. vii.
' sure if the inqiiirer'g name is
!► Farsok, but I
..,^ ,,,.,iies. Firaty he asks
* ks'^jue to be seen. They
^' eum ; but are very rarely to
H eL*e — indeed, only in the
Catholic colleges' and of
ii'm and gentlemen. But I I
crif and have aeen and raad
them tepefttedly. There were thi^e of ibesa;
and they were called ** Blue Books ** from beings
stitched* in blue* or rather purple (XJvera, The
first ap)>eared in 1789, the second in 1791, and
the third in 171I2. Mr. Charles Butler wrote the
whole of the first and third, and a great part of
the second. They contain scandalous doctrine^
which no Catholic could be oDowed to advocate;
so that Mr, C, Butler*8 account of them must be
read with great caution and distrust. There was
also a ** Buir Book," published by the three medi-
ators in 17£»2. The '' lied Book," so called from
being bound in red morocco, was never printed.
It was a MS. in folio, written by Mr. C, Butler ;
and its contents were sinulat to those of his first
" Blue Book," though dillt-ring in some ptu-ticulars.
It was written in 1790, and addressed to the
Yicars Apostolic If further infonnatiofi be de-
sired, it will be found in Bishop Milner's Sujyfile-
metUary Metnoirn of SnglUh CatholicSf and in Br.
Husenbeth^s Life of BUhop MUner, F. C. H.
*' Fridat Tr^'* (4^" S. vii. 123.)— By Friday
tree is meant the cross — the " accursed tree ** —
and naturally used to express a trial or misfortune.
P. E. Masey.
DE8cinn>AXTS of Bishop Bedki-l (4*** S, v. 311,
501 ; vi. 183 ; vii. 104.) — *' Master WUliam
Bedell and his wife " are named amongst the
British settlers in the county of Cavan'to wbom,
in accordance with the treaty miuie betwee-U Sir
Francis Hamilton and the rebel chieftain, Philip
MacHugh IklacShan Eely, June 4, 1642 (whereby
the castles of Kylagh and Crohan were to be sur-
rendered to the rebels), permission was granted to
depart im molested with their baggage in company
with SirF. Hamilton. " Master Ambrose Beclell^'
was one of the parties to the surrender of Crohan
Castle, The alwre notes are taken from The
JRebellitm in the Cotmiy Cttianj by Henry Jones,
RD. London, Aug. 11, 1042. ^ C. S. K-
St. Peter's Square, Hflmiticmmith, W.
SnABD OR Sharn (4*^ B. vi. 324, 397, 601;
vii. 10o.)^'In the east of Cornwall cmc^iem
means cow-dung, and ** the sea, when it assumes
an olive-green turbid appearance, as if coloured
with cow-dmfig,*' is spoken of as being eawsftertiu,
(See a *^ List of Words '' by Mr. T. Q. Couch m
Jour, of Itoyal hid. of Cornwall^ No. 1.)
Shard, Shani, 8 hem are derived from the
Anglo-Saxon mmam^ Mcem, mnem^ all signifying
dung. (See Bosworth's An^lo-Sax, Diet.)
The vulgar word that Mr. Stephen J achov
could only hint at is from the Anglo-Saxon Mittts^j
a flux (^fitwr ahiu Scitun {txicarf) is modestly"!
mentioned in Boeworth's AnfflAt-Sax. Did^ Tiif
synonyms are Platt-Deutsch Bchiien^ Dutch schy* |
ten^ Gennan scAeusm, iJamsh akida, Iceh tkda* .
Scitan is probably from the s«un« root aa tb« ]
Anglo-Saxon aoeoton, to shoot. If it uL|\% «^
I
I
200
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»* S. ?IL Maboi 4» 7L '
■with til© sense in which, as J, T. F. says, the
*' iihooting^s " of cows are referred to in the Nortli,
Iij the west of Cornwall the droppiDfi^fl of cattl«
ftru termed ^' sun-cftke?'/ ' Query, it tiii^ has any
cnnnection with Mr, Jackson^s e\ii\^-i'iikcji. The
seurte of cake seemt* to be a mass or liunp of rijt-
ihing. The Keltic word cac or cdch^ dunjr, i&
found in numerous lanj^ungea, W. N.
38, Sutherland Stiuarr» S.E.
Edward Cofch, Cextfjtaria^ (4>*' S. Tii. 120.)
In reference tn Edward Coucli, whose name a^j-
pears under the heading ** Centenariftnism '^ m
** N. & Q/' 1 ftddre&sed the following letter to the
editor of the Western Moniinf/ News : —
" THK LATK Mtt. E. COUCIf.
•* SlP^ — My nttention hns been calkd to n bioprraphicxil
Bketcb of the late Edward Couch in your pap^r of the 1st,
in which it » «t«ted that be was born in 17G1.
" Some ten yt-Ar* dnce the clert;yinftn of the pari.^h in
which he vraA then Itvin^ told me that thl^ oM man
stated hi» age jit that timo to ht? near 100 years, llo
a«k«d mc to examine the re^nster of thLs parLsh to aacer-
tttiii the truth, and furnidhcd me with the names of hk
pjireiiUH.
" 1 did examine the register, and found that he was
baptized in October, 177<J, not in 1701, The old man
wa$ madfl acquainted with the reHult of my ^sc^arch, but
still peraisted in hia statement (and actually, some years
Inter, referred to mo a.^ authority for iti truth), though he
did not attempt to explain his, baptismal regi.:«t«r appear-
ing flfteen years laler*
'* 1 leave it to you, mr^ and the public to decide whe-
ther, in iober tmth, he died in his ninety- fifth or in Ida
one hundred and tenth y^&r. As these very exceptional
ca^fj of longevity aro cbruniclcd, 1 have thcia;;ht it ri^ht
to supply thia c^-idence.^ — 1 am, air, your obedient servant,
" W. H, Polk Carkw.
" Antony, Torpoint, Dovonport, Feb. Srd, 1870.*'
Some of Edward Couch *s friends, very loth
to ttdmit the possibility of his real age taving
been ninety 'five iuatead of one hundred and teu,
bave argued that " he might have been baptized
when he waa fifteen, and that baptism in riper
years i« no uncommon occurrence/' Another
states that *' hia youo^er brother died in the year
1843, ag-ed aeventy years^" and refers for proof of
thia brotber'a age to the reg-ister of this parish
(Antony). In reference to the firat allegation, it
13 at least ain^ukr that, when told of the date as
appearing in the register — as he waa, to my know-
ledge, twice over— he did not say ** I waa fifteen
when I was baptized." At that age such an
event muat have fixed itself in hia memory.
Moreover, I believe that baptism in riper yeara
was at that period^ the latter part of the last
century, much more uncommon even than it h
now. Aa to the second allegation, I have care-
fully aearclied the parish regiatei, and cannot find
thia brother 'a name at all. Your correspondent
W. C. thinks that this case may be easily tested
at the Admiralty* Edward Couch's atory de-
Bctibea him aa pressed into the naTj in 1793 —
this is not at all improbable. If he was bajptifed
at the usual time after his birth, he would h&?|
been seventeen in 1703 — doiibtlefis having
as he staled, serving in a privateer before.
I do not imagine that in those days, when
sea- ports were swept by preaa-gang crews,
very accurale report waa sent to the Admind^^
of the ages of the fish which thev had netted.
W. Il, Pole Cabiw,
Antony, Torpoint, Devonport.
[Mr. Polp: Cauhw hm clearly dcmor*'-'
Couch was really ninety-five and not one
ten. !f any doubt as tn the tnith could po^-.
it M'iU be removed hy the fact that when Cou
ILM.S, on June 30, 17;U, be i* described lis bcii
teen yeara of age, which would make him niael
June'lasl.]
St. MtchabUp MotrxTs op CoKXWALii
BRiTTAxr (1'^ S. vii, 125,)— The dedication of
MichaeFa Mount baa no reference to serpent w
ship. The saint i^ represented as vanquishiiur tl
devil^ in alliL^ioo to Jude 9, He v. xiu 7. ml
respect to the mount on the coiist of Normandy
tradition relates that Aubert, Bishop of A^Tuncbi
when living there, saw a vision of the aaiot, wl
commanded him to found there a church to I
honour, which command the bishop obeyed. Sill
seqtiently the church on the English mount
erected, and beiu^r [dependent on the French o^m^
m unity, was naturally dedicated to the same
saint. P. E. Masbi.
Story of a Statitk (4^*^ S. vii. lf?5.)— Aneirly
yersion of the story referred to by your corre-
snondent Ixquirer, though prohabiy not the ori-
gmal source of the tale, will be found in jn^'a*
ofMitlmeshunj/( Chnmich (book II. cb.xiii.),wii8n
it is given with much detail. W. F. IL
Mr. Morris ha^ given aa exquisite versioii in
The EarthUj IWmUse (part ^^^), entitled "Thd
King given to Venus.*' W. G. Sl05l.
Dorchester.
Sabine Bariag-Gonld {Curiom Mytht^
Series I. p. 207, ed. 18lJ(J) quotes this stoiy
Fordun'fl Scot irhran icon, in illustration of
legend of Tannhauser* Fordun relates it fv^^
that really happened to a Roman gent)
the year 1050. JoaN
Kustington, near Littlehampton, Susses.
** The Heatoto of thp. Lead " (4** S, rii
148.) — This aong is by William Pearce, and'
be found in his operatic farce, Hartford Bndfi^
The i^kirit of the Comp^ produced at Covent Gr
den Theatre in 170i3. It is said to have
written on shipboard aome yeara before the piHh
ductiou of the farce, and given to William Shi«W
the composer. For its great and immediate pop'*'
laritv it wjifi indebted not only to the eie*»ir*tni
music of Shield, but also to the fine Binginj t
Charles lecledon, the vocalist, from whost j;^
the public first heard it. W. H. Hcai*
«8.viLMAitcit4,7iO NOTES AND QUERIES*
201
^AXSLion, Wn.TS^ Eta (4**" S. yii. 124.) — Ax
a,cm£B will doubtless find the information he
arv« in The Genealot/^ of the Cole Ftwnlt/, by
aca Edwin- Cole, 8vo (J* Kussell Snjitb, iSoho
ine, London) ; or furthor detiiils by corniiHini-
afi with its writer. Ap Coillus.
iVhosi; Yi»tbrdat8 look backwatidb/' etc.
^ 8, xiu 124.) — From Young's Nu^hi Thought a,
fhi 11. Enes 334-5, Thes^ two lines form the
hj*>tt of one of Stothard'ft illuHtrations in Hi»p-
*tair» edition^ 17*J8. The engraving is dftted
iie,, 1707. W. Y.
, Jase of Valois (4^>» S, vi. 380, 406, 55a)
atich obli^j^d to F. G« II. for setting me ri^ht
abject on which I spoke too hastily. My
' L<t VkMirviil!e7fSi,,diBtmct\yR8^QTiB
en wfla not cononi&ed; but it^ dnfe is
n ', und I ontrht to have remenihered tJiat
r canon isfition might bnve occurrt*d tince that
feriod. In truth, bud F. C. IL spoken tt little
•ooaer, I *fhonld not Imvfi presumed ti> enter the
Hflts OR a question of which he knows far more
than 1 do* Heiim EXTRUDE,
"^ '^" Hole ix the Wall (4*'* S. vii. 12.*5.)~-
not li'eUf is assuredly the right reading;. I
"* ihe sign in Bii^tol, where a waU was
^vith a dark hole in tlie brick.s. It
.. ucon originally intended for ii breach
I the rampart of a beaiegt^d city* or po&-
'1 nJlufion to the Caccnta Mtiwrice of the
** tknticle of Canticks," ch. ii* v. 14.
F. C. IL
V\ende note, p. 123. the sign is **Tlje Ibib in
the Well," not '' The Hole in the Well" K. L.
KiagV Lyon,
^'"-- BKLLf* (4"- S. Ti. 475: yii. 21, 133.)—
nh Woodhou^e tber»i h a pretty and
...^ |; jrtrait of Lad}- Flt^nrietta Maria 8tan-
^f md to be by Vandyke^ and painted when »he
%«* warcplv a "year old, with a coral and bulla
11 her waist Bbo waa the daughter
venth Earl of Derby, and Charlotte
jtUe ; and brought thia picture, and
of the Stanley and Tremouille fami-
worth, on her niamage with WilliRni
of Stralford. This ia another instance
biUjiui' belb being in use in the reign of
1 1. G. D. T.
RfPSiT (4**' S. ?L 507; vii. 14o.)— I am
_^ bilged by your eeveral correspond en ta who
mphed to my query respecting the *' Seripsit,"
%k!k I have no doubt is identical with their
mna pieces/' although in my school-boy
by were taken home at Midsummer as well
An old school-fellow recognised
on at once, with laughing eyes at the
!!e» it called up, and never knew it by
ly Other title. Both I and he, and our master
also, were then ignorant of Latin ; and upon the
principle of "onine ignotum pro magnifico/* we
no doubt thought it the most flattering title for
our specimen. This is taking it for granted that
the word was ready printed for the fchoolboy;
but in a nrripsU (?) which I pasieiss tiie words,
".Joseph ICckersley pcripsit, l>ec. 17, 1780,*' are
all in manuscript. The centre is occupied by an
adjuration to Libert}', in writing, surrounded by
eugravings of the demolition of the Boatile, July
1 7H0 ; a skeleton in a cage ; a nearly naked prisoner;,
another belnud a prated window ; the beheading
of the governor of Ba^^tile, &c. Sec, Published by
Robert Sayer, 53. Fleet Street, Nov. D, 1780.
Probably no earlier specinien-pieee than mine
exiift.^. M. D.
Mr. Dixon and F. C, IT. are quite right. Th^J
Christmas exhibitiona of penmautihip were no
more called "Sciipsits'* than engravings were
called '* Sculpeils/' except it might be by such i^
person a*^ he who, in Iltffh Life hehw Stairt!^
assures his fellow servants that Shake.speare'8
plays were written by Finis, fur he *'eaw the
name at the end of the hook.** CO.
Thos. Stanley, Bishop of Sopor akd Mak
(4"* S. vii. 9i\,)^Afemoir^ of the Hous^ of S(miUj/t
(Seacombe's, I believe), published by Joseph
Ilarrop, Manchester, 17U7, contains the bishops
nncoath rbvmes. Tho book is common in Lanca-
shire. " P. P.
NOTES 02^ BOOKS. ETC.
Jasrph of Arimo*hiej vthfrreixt called Thr Jlnmaner of tJia
Samt Grmii vr Hf^tij Grail. An Alliterative Poem,
written about a.d* mJiO, nnd hdw firMt printed from tht>
Uni4m^ Copy in tho Yeriioti MS. at Oxfonl. With «n
A pprncjix, etmtainkijr " The Lyfe of Josopli of Arnitithy,"
rcpnntfii from tho Jilackdetter Copy of VV3'nkyn de
Wordt?; "Do Sancto J*>seph ab ArimnthiA,'' tirst
printed bv T'vnaon a.d. XhKi ; and "The Lyfe nf Josepli
of Ariraathia/' lirst printed by Fvnson a.o. iri20.
Kfiitui, with XoU'^ find Glossarml ItidiceM, btf the licv*
Walter W. Skeat. M.A.
Kinp Alfred's West Saxon Vtmifm tf Grepmyt Pa$torai
Cttrf. With an English I'rannhtHon, the Latin TesU
JVnkn, und fntrodurtion. Eddtdhtf Ileury Swcet, K^.,.
of IXiiWuA Ci>llef;e, Oxford. Fart L
We huvo here fre.*ih proofs of tbe activity of the Eoirly
Kngliuh I'ext Society in the ehnpe of the first two of '
ttie ?«vcriil volumes whicb ivill be given to the raem-
Ij.rn ill return for ihtir subscriptiMnii for 1871. We
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works*. Mr, J^kcat'ji vohimts it will he seen, is a very
eomplcto moiir>;;niph of the Arifiinthcan Romance, witli
Introcluctiun, Indices ^f^, Of Mr. Sweet's we will
tTi*'r*'iv say,thrtt it w the tiret pnrt only of hia book, and
con?^»M*of the twottxu of the We*t S*xoa version of
(;rc|:on> P;uitoral Cftrc, from thp Halton MS. and the
Cotton MSS. respectively, printed in parallel paaaagefl»
202
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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LoTiDON iNTBitNATTOirAt. ExHtaiTioir OF 1871. —
Daring the week ctidioi: February 2f)th, paintjnp, sculps
turo, engravings, and piioto;iniphy, archiU'ctural deaignfl,
tapestries, carpets t'mbri>iiJoni'<, de^slgna for decorative
manufactures and reproductions; alio nearly 2000 o\y-
jects of pottery, specimens of wooUena and worsteds, and
educatinnal apptianre** — maklni^ in all a tutal of about
35Q0 objecU, were delivered at th« Eathibition Galleries.
Forcif^ objects arrived from Belgium, the Gtrraun Em-
pire, Portugal, Ku^iu, Spaio, Hong-koijg, and Tunis,
The Rev.T. W. Wears. — *' Westminster Schoolmen,*'
*ays the Pull Mall Guzettet "will be sorry to hear of the
death of tha Rev, Thomas William Weare, M.A., who
wjw for more than twenty years «e4;ond ma^fter. Uc re-
tired in IHiWf and was »otne time afterwards appointed
by the Archbishop of Cnulerbury (Dr. Longley) to tbe
rectory of Infield, Sussex. Mr, Wear© was educated at
Chricitchurcb, Oxfonl, where he took his B JL. degree
in 1836. Afterward* ho edited the Oxford Arclueolotci-
cal Society'^ publications, and translated into Kngli.sh
rer?e Ptauti Trinummui, Perhaps hi^ be&t known work
is a paper in Mr. Gilbeit Scott'a Gltanin^ from JV'tat-
mintttr,
TiTK CcNTF.NAiiY OF Str Waltku Scott, — The Duke
of Buccleucb hsui agreed tc» preside at the celebration of
the centenary of Sir Walter Scott, in Edinburgh, in
Augttst nexL
Lord BitouaHAit. — ^A marble bust of this late states-
inui Lftsb«en recently placed in the Council Chamber at
Gttitdholl. The sculptor, Mr. G, G. Adam», would appear
(0 have been eminently successful in his work.
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^RTlLMABciin,7K] NOTES AND QUERIES.
203
Loxpoy, 8ATanj>Ar, mabcb n, mu
CONTENTS.— N» IG7.
_ \th,<^ ;,,.„-; of Bnirlifili Priiioeasw, 203— Barldora
<'(*, 204 — Stray Notckta on Herbs and
Siprns in VieniTA — The Surname SafH-
rr«.in — H&nderK Concerto for tlio
i tbo BookHTlIer's Daughter —
f Paris — T]i« Pha?nlx PirJt —
V. ..i. ...,. — Ballad* by Lady Mary Wort-
ntng^u and Lord tbeeterfl'Jld, gm*
BR ; — T?*1t Harp- Bciaiit and Florin — Bobadil
I :mao "—Domesday — English Qnft:n
tin— " Et f^cife Smbenda " — lliiUnd
- Great Man alluded to by Arnold m
ij " lii'Ju^tnes of Eui^land — Ji*flten» on Ship*
Judicial 0atli9 — Moor Park — Mnrtinirr, Eft'-l of
— Mouniitiff or Blackedg^d Writinj? Paper — XI nr.
I*aslcy or Paslf wo — Porcelain Queiy— Psalm xiiit.
lKppcare*s '* Scamels '* —The Sun never sets on tlie
CioniiMinna — 8upor8tition in Suflblk — Voodonbm
liite Tower of I*ondou — Why dwt a newly-born
fS06.
E— "F-^'-r'" MaKMlnc," 4c., 211 - Mount Cal-
ais - > Po^r/' 216 — T»i« Block-Bool;^,
-TJi« A, : •* Uolrasley ."/&. — The Balti-
. " Pntf-rswus, £18 — Pcnnyteraaij
ae, &c., 219 — A^'sandc^ JFaniie-
^o Neville, Lord Latimcsr — '*Tlio
u iundly,"4c. — " Phi-Beta-Kappn"
— iJ^sccndants of Charles Brandon,
Tatronyinic Prefij '* Mac "— Bows and
pti- in. Hob tn Iho Well " — Samplonj — The
Gnid-»*« Aur-jira- Origin of the Buruamo Cun-
i--" God timdo Man," &c.»2l9.
• fm B(^oka, Ac*
0OUM*
MABRIAGES OF ENGLISH PRINCESSES.
Sir. Gladstone fitnted in tlie House of Commonfl
I Feb. 13, 1871, tliat
IwM tio nnuftual thing ia iha history of this country,
t far otherwi»t«f for perfons of the Royal Hoase to be-
r their hand opon British subjects.'*
iThe Premit>r inade this statement in support of
^ molioD to provide a dowry for tlie PiinceBs
iiiBe, ** in yiew of her Approaching marriage,"
"^ her Majesty's consent, to the son of a Scot-
Jpe«?r, It h&3 become^ therefore, an interest-
f question what precedents there are in English
r of th« daught^jra and sisters of the reign-
ereign many in g Britiah flubjects tviih the
tetd. I have only been able to find thri^
Unces — all of theni in the thirteenth cen-
all of them vrith personages of great
nd wealth — who accepted the condition
'mg no dowries, and of resettling their
as with reversion to the Crown, to the
of their own kindred. All the other
of Knglish princesses to husbands not
^iH were either to foreigners of royal descent
Bad Connections, like Ingelram de Coucj, or were
ewitiacted without the leave of the sovereign,
Tl»« daughters of Edward IV, cannot be quoted
J* «i txc*'plion, for thev were married after the
Wl of their dynasty, and after they had ceased to
h regarded as princesses of the reigning Hotisa,
The first of these three marriages with the
King's consent is that of Eleanor, the youngest
daughter of King John, to William Mareschall,
Earl of Pembroke. Her husband was the first
subject in the retilra, and his father had lately
been the Regent of England; but IIenr\^ III,
thought it necessary to apologise for consent lug
to such a match, and his letter to his proctors at
Kome is still extant, and mua as foUowa, in a
translation slightly abbreviated: —
" Since there are some people perhapa who, by sug-
gestion to the Lord I'ope and the Cardinal^ will try to put
un uvil construction on what ha» lately been done by us
on the counsel of our magnates and lieges, we havo
undertaken to explain the whole course of the afiiiir to
put Tou more on youffjuard in refatitvgtbeir insinnations.
'* Know then,'that when the Bishop of Norwich was
Legate in England, the Earl Mi^rshal was still iu posses-
sion of the royal castles of Marlborough and Ludyerghall,
and w&A proposing to take to wife the sister of Earl
Robert de Bru5, and there were al^o other magnates in
England who were trying to draw him astray from us
by alliances to our wrong. The question, therefore, of
giving him one of our sistera wm ban died before the
Lord Legato and our Justiciarj* and otlier magnate*; for
it was feared that^ if the E>ul Marshal married the si^t^r
of the Earl de Bru^ this* fareiij^n alliance would give too
free an ingress into Englanu to foreigners, especially
when Richard Marshal!^ the Earl's brother, held nil hia
castles and honour in Normandy; and moreover, the ill-
feeling of those who were tr^'ing to draw away the EarPs
heart from us was a suhject of appTehension^ Whereas,
if wu ga^e him one of our sisters, the said castles would
be restored to u% which was a matter of great import-
ance, and other magnates would be hiduced by his ex*
ample to give up the castles which they held, CunsideriDg
then the premijic^ and our tender a<::c and the state of
the realm, one of our si'iterd was by the authority of the
Legate and the counsel of tbo miignatea granted i*> the
Earl Marshal on the terms that he gave his pledge to
marry her, If it so pleased us and the msgnatea of the
realm. Our Justiciary pledged himself to this concession
to tlie Marsha), if the magnates consented ; and tha
Legate and Justiciary, and the others who were present,
faithfully promised to use all diligence to get such con-
sent. The said castles were then restored into the hands
of the Legate on condition that, if the contract was not
fulfilled within a certain period, which has long paA*cdj
they should be restored to the Marshal without didicnlty,
Wiicn alt this was intimated soon afterwards to the otht;r
magnates, and particularlv to the Earl of Chester, who
had just come home from tho Holy Laml, the Earl loudlv
approved of it, and the others consented without a single
dissentient. Afterwards, however, when certain quarrels
had grown np, there were some who disapproved, assert-
ing, OS; will perhaps be said on their bebalf in the Court
at Kome;, that we had no treasure of more value
tb:m the marriage of ouradf and our sisters | and
that, therefore, our sisters should b© so placed in mar-
ringe as to give us a great alliance in foreign parts.
Thus the bu*iness remained long uncompleted. Biit
when the Earl Mariihal had lately obtained an apostolic
mandate, addrcsscfl to my lords of Canterbury and Salis-
bury, that they Khould either absolve him from his obli-
pntjon to marry mir sifter or shoold sea tho contract
iulftlled, the Marshal insisted that one of the two courses
should be Liken foriliwiih, as he refused to wait any
longer for a wife. It w^aa now teat^A. V\i*3L SX\^ ^-m-
shcd, who was a man of gteal powet V^SXi \xv ^vi,^^*.'^^^
and Ireland, should take lo wvfe V\\'i«v%\At ^l \>i<5.^'L6x\ ^^
204
NOTES AND QUERIES. f"' &• vn. M^nrn it. -i.
Brus or tb^ dAU|;ht<^r of the Dnke of Brabant (vrho had
alw be«n offered to him), which for the reitsona already
given woald be much ag^ainst our interest; or leat he
should umrrr the lister of the King of Scotland, which
wotild be !*till more danireroa^ for ob^ a« ScmLind U so
(tacb nearer to Ireland and to the Marsbar* domains.
ICkmaiderin^. therefore, the valaar and power of the Mar-
libftl* and the faithful senriee he haA wrouji^ht in Wales,
Iwhere he wrested from the hnnds of Llewellyn Prince of
(lorth Wales oar castles, which but for bim had been lost
1(0 JXBi and also considering the example of Philip »omC'
ftiuie King of France, who married hh ilauuhtcrji, sisters,
and niecei to the Count of Lemur and the Count of Po'Ut-
hitn and others of his subjects, just as the present King
of France lately married his niece, the daughter, to wit,
of Guise ard de Beaujea, to the Count of Champagrie.
Considering; the premises and tbc great things which aro
eicpected from the Mazvhid, it occurred to us and our
conndT, after weighing all tb« clrcumstanoea, that we
could not marry our sister in any other quarter so much
to our profit and honour: we have therefore by thdr
eonnjeU after careful deliberation, given to the Mnrshal
our younger sister to wife without any loss of land,
caatlea, or money."
EARLDOM OF LOUDON: ABETAXCK,
The ca*te of the Countess of Loudon nflbti
complete ami satisfactory proof of the diffemti
Tlie -
the
^
The Princesa Eleanor afterwards ra?irned
Simon de Montfort, but they were married in
secret under doubtful circnm stances, and Simon
was a FrencliDiani brother to the Conatahbj of
Francej and only Engliali through bis grand-
mother, the coheiress of the earldom of Leicester,
The second marriage is that of Joan, daughter
of Edward I., in 1200^ to Gilbert de Clare, in
whom the earldom of Heitford was united with
the gomi-rojal honour of Gloucester and with the
Irish principality of Strongbow, and who is called
bj Matthew of \\' estminster *' the most powerful
man in the kingdom neit to the King/' The
Earl waa eompelled tis a condition of bis marriage
to surrender into the King*a bands the whole of
his va-Ht possessions in England, Wules^ and Ire-
land, and the King took formal poasofwion of
them, They were then regranted to the Earl and
the Princess Joan, and their heirs, with the ro-
version to the princess, to the eiciusioa of the
family of Clare.
The third marriage is that of Elizabeth, eighth
daughter of Edward L, in V402, to Humphrey de
BohuD, Earl of Hereford and E^ex, and lligh
Constable of England, who aubmitted to the samo
conditiona aa Earl Cilbert ; for he resigned to the
King his nine ca^^^Ues and forty-nine manors, and
his hereditary oilice of Constable, and accepted a
regrant of the same with a proviso of a reversion
to the Crown in exclusion of his own kindred.
It will thus be seen that, whatever excellent
reasons there may be for the approaching mar-
riage of Princess Louise, such a marriage is in
manj respects without precedent in English his-
tory,
Tewabs.
between the Scotish and English law on the
ject of abeyance. Her ladyship's brother,
Marquis of Hastings, was an Englisih, Iriah» aufi
Scotinh peer. The earldom of Loudon came to
him in virtue of a Scotish patent under a destina-
tion to heirs. His Irish earldom and Enirlifli
marquisate were to heirs male of the or
patentee. His English baronies were held i
writs of summons.
Upon his death, November 10, 1868, the Irish
earldom and Englinh njarquisate lapsed for wnnt
of heirs nmlfj aod tho latter became extinct, Tlie
baronies by writ fell in abeyance amongst bis hi
aistera, Lady Edith, I>ady Bertha, Lady Victorii
aod Lady Francis, But the Scotch earldom, i
consequence of the destination to heirnt fell to tb
elded sister, according to the law of that oountiT.
If the English dcxitrine of abeyance could have
had any operation in Scotland, the Loudon earl-
dom wouM have fallen in abeyance between the
four sister*! of the deceased Marquis of Hastings
who through a female descent was Earl of Lou-
don. But such was not the case. The eldi
sister became /r/re mnguinU Countess of Loudi
the htmoura passing, without any form of serrii
to her as tho next heir. Excepting to prove pi
pinquity, when it is disputed, a service is UB*
necessary, as it only proves a faet^ but ha»
effect upon a title of nonour. In some cases
service would be a very dangerous ailair. F(
example : if a peer or a baronet die in deb^l
his next heir incurs no liability, although b^]
takes and uses the honours, those coming k»
him hy right of blfwd; but if he were to »rTi
heir, he becomes liable for the debts of his p»d^
cessor.
Thus, although the countess succeeded to tE»
earldom enjoyed bj her brother, and took tb6
honours of Loudon, she incurred no liability for
his immense debts by so doing.
Those observations may not be without tW?
value in England, where the rules of sucrp^sii.n to
dignities in Scotland are not unfremi-
represented before tribunals where Eti.
vera should be better instructed. By t
tnion of the Kingdoms of England anil ■
the law of the latter country was to be pi
which it assuredly would not if the doci _
abeyance was to be imported into tbe hiTf
Scotland.
Lady Loudon, with her three sisters, his I
separate claim, from being a co-heire^k", to tl»t
English baronies ; but as the crown has toe rigb*
of summoning any one of the ladies, it majhippwi
that her ladyahip may not be the one sel'ect^a, if
\ occutt<t4. m \.\x^ dw.m some years ago adrau^ti to
vii.Mailch 11.71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
205
the Terj old barony of Uaslings,* which was given
to the descendftnt of a younger sister, whilst the
Tcpresen lotion was rested in the ancient family of
L Eatrange fts heira of line of an elder sister.
J.M.
STKAT NOTELETS OX HERBS AND LEAVES.
No. IL
" Whftre I killed ane sl fair fttrne-tleath,
By loss o' blood and want of brealh,"
ficliiims Death in Bums's Death and Doctor Mom-
Iwk 1 24th stanza) ; and I take this ** fair strae-
d^dth '' to be a death of quietness and old age in
flos^fl own quiet bed containing or conabting of
BMitlf a straw mattress or straw pallet in poor
kouseiiolds. Thus " Mnrtha " of bad repute in
Goethe's Faudf part I* Werke in 40 vols,, voL xi»
f liJ2) exclaims —
" Gott verEcih's meint^m licben Munn,
£r but an mir nicht wahlgethati 1
tichi di stracks in die WeU hmeiD,
Uad llUat mich anf dem Stroh &Ueln."
Uti ber, sweet Gretchen s bud angel, alone on
the " Btrae.'* And this expression -will help Eiig-
liah read»:!rd better to underj^tand a Uerman word
tie meaning of which I have often been asked
sbout : *StrohwiUwe, u e. literally a " straw-
i^dow'^ (mock-widow, as the German-Ei3f,''lish
dictionaries gire it) — a wife left alone on the
** straw * during her husband's temporary absence.
It is a most common e very-day expression of all
das^ies in Germany, just like the word Stroh-
iPBT/tt'cT, ** *»tTaw-widower»'* Thus Baedecker, the
Qerman Murray, in his well-known handbook of
GcrmojiT, speaiing of Vegesack, near Bremen^
my*:-'
" U is the bead-qoarters of many sailors* wiJt^wa and
' t^mf'Wiiiow6* (^Strohwittwen), who live here isa amall
Incuses fitted np «abin-likc-" [Who dou* iKit mvolunlarily
Uiok of dear old Pegottv*» liome ?]— Vide Baedeckeni
^^Mlaehkindj ed. 185«« ti. 51.
!> :r-r.^ the time of the Fronde (middle of the
jlh century) all the adherents of the
tices^ and decided antagonists of Cardinal
I Prime Minister in lB4.*j), wore a small
I straw, most probably in remembrance of
Ue Ages, when a broken straw was the
: .be French Tassals' renounrinnr their loyal
«»bedience. Mademoiselle de Montpem^ier t sp*
V
III.
15 an older barony than the one in the person of
i^al Lord HutingSf who was put to death by
IT ....1 ...».;,.u Sonour subsequently merged m
'1,
I >rl.'.ina (born 1*327, died 1693),
r known under the name
or " Madera oiaelle," ** ta
<hcT 15, 1670, treat-
I'.^'a ** marriage with
Liuiiiu ; ed. Gruuvelle, Farw, la 00, L 132-3^1)
p<fared in public with a small bimch of straw
tied with rikbons of the colours of the rnyal princes
fastened to her fan, (I owe these facts to my
memory, but cannot remember in which Memoirei
or Zcttres I have seen them stated.)
Not raanr years ngo it was still the hereditary
custom in (jermany that when a young country
girl had lost her greatest pride, her honour
{Eh'e)^ she was led through her native Tillage in
a straw wreath or strnw crown— a mockery of
the bridal wreath or crown of the vestal myrtle,
which bv rights onl? belonged and still belongs to
a virginal bride, (/; N. & Q." 4.^ S. May 1 .) It was
also the custom in Germ any formerly to' present the
bride with a straw wreath the day after the wedding.
This ceremony was always accompanied by funny,
witty, and often probably Tery coarse speeches;,
the so-called Strohkranzrethn (straw-wreath ora-
tions). When Frederick the Great of Prussia was
celebrating the nuptials of hia brother in 1742
this old ceremony was celebrated too, in spite of
the French T>oli»h of the court (grattez k Ihtsi^)^
That great King had chosen Baron Bielfeld to
deliver the speech or oration to the royal bride.
(Mde Lett res fmniUbrc* ti la Haye^ Par le Barmt
de Bielfeld, 1703, ij. 04.) This took place the
day after the marriage, of course, juet when the
royal party was going to sit down to supper. A
young cavalier was carrying the prettily arranged
straw wreath, which was adorned with small
images of wax. Twelve cavaliera with wax torchca
were at the same time marching round the apart-
ment, hinting by gestures that they were lookitig
for whftt had been lost the night before. Not
being ablo to achieve this, of course they stood
still, and Baron Bielfeld stepped forth and began
to deliver hi a Strohkranzrede^ which was filled
witb the moat powerful expressions, hints, and
allusions, but was nevertheless received with
much applause and gmto. The royal bride had
to wear the wreath for a short time, after wliicli
the royal bridegroom had to do the same.
Who of us has nut put a rose-leaf into a book,
and has foimd it in after years without being able
to remember when and why it was put there ?
"A withered, lifeless, vacant form,
It litis on my abandoned breast J ** *
Who of US does not know, too, the charming
story of Smindi rides the Sybarite, who could not
sleep on account of a creased rose-leaf on hi^
couch ? worse than Andersen's, dear Andersen's,
real prince3s, who could not rest on account of the
pea under her tvwlve mattresses, and w*is on that
account discovered to be a real and no f^ham prin-
cess? And who does not know the stiil more
charming story of that Eastern sage Abtlul-Kadri,
who could not be received as a resident within
the walls of Babylon, putting a rose-leal* on the
206
NOTES AND QUERIES. - r4«^ s, til lUacii ii,»;
surface of the bnmfiil Tegsol whicli vroB shown
to him aa a sjmbol ? Is this, then, the reason wby,
A3 a young friend from Sniyma told me, a rose-
leaf (I am alluding here to'tUe peials of course)
there and elsewhere in the East is considered t&
the eymbol of **let ma or my love not trouble
TOE " ? Who hna not heard oi Goethe^a " Weim
ich dich liebe, w«a geht's dich an ? '* Losa known,
perhaps, tban that pretty ^'etory" is, that the
Greek youtba took a rose-leaf, and slightly draw-
ing the left-hand together, put it on tbo opening
thua formed ; then with their rijjht-hand they
gave it ft blow to produce a clapping noise. He
whose rose-leaf did not '* report ^ waa said to be
unhappy in lore. ( J'ide Tlieocritus's IdiflUf the
third.) And a aomewhat Bimilar custom still pre-
Tiula on the Continent, where a rose-leaf ia
gathered together In the manner of a small pouch ;
thia haa to he cracked with a loud noise either on
the forehead or the upper part of the left hand*
If it produces a pretty pleasing sound when
thus cracked, the person you hare in your mind
or heart thiuks of you ; or some aay it meana the
foreboding of a kiss.
Until lately it was alwaya conjectured that the
old name of Morea for the Grecian Feloponncsus
owed its origin to its fancied resemblanco to a
mulbeny-leaf ; but this seems to hay© been a fan-
ciful delusion of some poetic geographer or de-
lineator of mjips. As an emblem, however, the
mulberry*leaf was taken bv LudoTico Sforxa (the
hero of ilasainger's exquiaito gem, T/te Duke of
Miiati), who adopted it or a branch of the mul-
Iserry-tree as a flumame— Moro (Lat Moms).
It is the type of wisdom, prudence, foresight,
as the mulberry-tree (MoruSf L.) only puts forth
its leaver when night iErosta hare no longer to be
feared. Legend, that sweetest deceiTer, tells usi
that the white berries {Mortts alba^ L.) of the
tree were changed into purple onea (Morm nigra ^
L.) by the blood of Pyramus, a mulberr)^-treo oyer-
shadowing " old Ninny's tomb *' —
** To mcjEt at Xinus' tomb, there, there to woo,
• « • • * •
Anon cornea Pyrftmus, rweet yonth and tall,
And finds his trusty Thisbv's mantle ilain ;
Wb^-Tcat with h\m\i\ with bloody hlamefiil blade,
He bravely broach'J hU boiling bloody brcaat.
And Tbiisby» tarrrinfj in irmlberry ahode,
Hij d[igg<a- drew and died." •
In that pleasant book, Nares'a GJogsary, the
Tenorable archdeacon writes under the head of
**IloBemary *^: —
<^BoieiniirT waii also carriwl at ftineralfl^ probably for
[ its odour, and as a token of rcnuinbTaric^of the deceased;
-vrhtflh custom l« noticed as kte m the time of Gay [olfu
1732} la hia Fasioral Dirge, Mentionod alflo ber&»
*MidtujnmiT-Nl^*t Dream, Act V. Sc 1,
, , . * Prithee, see they ]Mr%
A sprig of rosemorj^t dippM in common water.
To smeU at <u they walk alon^ the sbreeta,*' *
Cartwright'a Ordinary, Act V, 8c.
Is this custom of carrying such a sprig of
mary at funerals still now and then obserred
England, and in which countiee? I remember
a TOT large Odd- fellows' or Foresters* funeral ia
the North of Yorkshire (1804), where two men
always walked abreast, with their little fingen
of two hands linked together, whiUt they
carrying small sprigs of rosemary in the
hands. I still recollect that most of "^
were most anxious to hare real rosei
substitute, aa, for instance, box.
Ilosemarjr, which, by tho bye, makea «q
lent ingredient for a no lesa excellent pomal
was until lately always used in this country fc
Todletikrant (aeath -wreath) for any 'jxmag
dying shortly before her wedding.
" There's rosemary, that'a for remembraooe.*' f
Garlic {Allium »atimm^ L.) is still belieyedj
possess an ti- witchcraft properties in Germany,*
especially in Greece ana Turkey. AUimn ne
(e(^ no garlic) has become proyerbial, as
it — in the way onions are used — is said to
duce quarrelsomeness. In ancient tittiet it
the emblem of belligerent life and feelings; bctt
it was also known as a remedy against the ehiTDI
of Amor and Eros, on which account the GrsA
i ladies ate of it and carried it about them dtmaff
the skiraphono' celebrated at Athens in honour «
i Minerva, Ceres, and Proserpine, when the parti*
j celebrating these festivals tad carefully to ft?*nd
' any conjugal connection with men. I sLouW
fancy that the smell would keep the latter at •
ndi-me'tangefe distance, On account of ite luilJ-
witchcraft properties it was dedicated to the Lam
at Rome. Hekuaxs KiXiJL
Germany.
Shop Signs tn Vienna. — I ohserrr ' - - '>•
gular signs in Vienna. Not only wer^
the patronage of the imperial royal *«.... •
dedicated to popular favourites, such as 'tfin;
Lind, but a ttAacconist's shop I saw dedicate ti ^>
the ** Salvator Mundi," and displaying a verr vfll
executed picture, I should think eight feet \i\^
of the sacred personage. Another, a silkmen'-jr*
shop, waa dediaited to the Holy Ghost Maaj ^*
the shops have painted signs, and well done.
P. E. Mi^^
The Sttrnaite Saiucszt^ Sabasin, or:
RAZiN. — This name is said to have be^n :
a Saracenic family that embraced '
during the Crusades, and settled in i .
rope ; and, in corroboration^ Mr. Lower ^)<^^
* Glouary^ German cd. (printed at Strahuml, 1^"
p. ceo.
t iroiPi7e*,ActrV. Sc.5,
.71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
207
ijjidln ^w&a an English surname temp. Edw, I.
ti.*' The Dame has probably uothing to do
tb the SarAceo9| but may be derived from
Btel-S&iTftsin, formerlj Caslel-Sarrazin, a town
Fraoce, in Lang-uedoc, su called fram ita situ-
m on the rivulet Azin (mr-Aiin), Conf.
ancoort or Agincourt| Dep« Pas de Calais.
E, 3. CaABjrocE.
6x17^ las.
E4FPEL*S CONCIERTO FOB THE HaRF.— Did BOt
md in *' N, & Q/' that Mr. Brmley Kicbsrda
id found a most yaluable composition fur the
Sb the British Muaeum? At any rate I
it in many other papers, and I thinlc it well
a T^»ke A note upon the subject. Be it known
oto ill men (with your permission, Mr. Editor)
^^)e CJ)ncerto in question has be«n famiUar to
^b etiidenta nearly eyer eince its composer
Plna England ; indeed it is one of those nopu>
^|iec€0 wluch haye kept players tipon Keyed
HtRBients from atarvin^ (according to some his-
wans) almost from lianders day until this.
^ 1 1 say that it is nothing more nor less than
ith of the first sot of organ concertoes pub-
r by Walsh^ vour musical readers may well
vr that anytliing so familiar could be dis-
mmd now. Dr. Arnold, too, published it in
mt (as Mr. Bichards has just done at great
toesBv^), and there have been editions of it
nthoat end — some good, some bad^ some indif-
bfflit In Dr. Arnold's copy it is said to be per
Utpa e or^ano; so there can be no pretence of
liliaging forward a new yersion of an old work
vm. W. J, Wesibbook,
S^Dhom.
Ll BBTTTiOtR kJHi TITB BoOESELLER's DaUOH-
Itt.^-In looking oyer the Life of Lq JSmi/^ni, the
ImuUtor of the Chitracferi of Theopbrastus and
iBkluir of the M<turs de ce Stk-le^ 1 luet with the
wowing anecdote of that interesting literary
QiiL It may not be unsuitable for "N, & Q*" ;^
"ht Bmy^ owd to frequent the nhop of a bookselkr
■aal Kicnaltet^ where he amujscd himself with reading
h$ a^9w panphleti, and playiag with the book^eller^i
jngliifer, ah cnjpkging child of wborn he was very fond.
ht dinr« taking the inanQ«cTipt of \n& Characters out
fldi pocket, ha offeied it to Michaliet, aaving, * Will
Napiiiit this ? I know not whether you will gain ^ny-
mug by it, but, ahonld it succeed, let the profits make
li Wry of my little friend here.' The booki»eller,
itiiigh doubtful with respect to the result, ventured on
Ibt ^Uication : the fi»t Jmpreaaion was j»ooa sold otTf
^mil «dtliotts were afterwarda sold, and the profits on
^^wk amoanted to a large sum; and with this for-
^XiM HicbaUet was oilerw&rda advantafireoualy mar-
E^^ Fbaitcis Teenoh.
^^B Eedaiy,
^■UOOKS ASB THE SlBGK OF PAKIS. —
^Rmay be worth while to mention^ before the fact ia
^JJtteBj that afty-fbar atrial engines were despatched
"™*TOi during the liege, and carried aUoffether about
2,50O»O0O letters, making a totnl weight of about ten
tons. The first balloon, the Neptnnc, left Paris on the
23rd of Septemher; the Armaiid Bnrtxfa, which started
on tbc 7th of October, took out Gainbetta ntu! the tirst
flock of carrier pigeons; tlie Jules Favre, which went
away on the IJOtli of November, has never been heard of
since, and h supposed to have been lost at sea ; the la&t
of all, G^nffral CamhrounG, was sent up on the 2Qth of
January."
The above is from a correspondent's letter in
the Dmlf/ Telegraphy written in Paris on Feb- 17,
1871, and is, I think, worthy r place in *' N. & Q."
Thos, Hatclifpk.
The PHfEXii Park. — There is a curious simi-
Iftrity of signiiication in the French Foutainebleaa ■
and the Irish Phcenix Park. The former^ it is
well known, signifies " spring of fair water," ajid
the true and proper Irish name of the latter Is
Fionn Uisge, that is ** fair water," to which if we
prefix tuhar^ that is ** spring," which I am almost
certain was the case^ the identity of the name ia
perfect
The change of Fionn Uisge to Pho^riix was, I
belieye, made by the celebrated Earl of Chester-
field when lord-lieutenant. To commemorate
this intellectual feat he raised, not very far from
the spring, the column still existing with a phoenix
on its summits Teos. Keightley.
AiiECDOTB OF Dr. Jokjtsow* — The following
anecdote of the lexicographic moralist ust>d to bo
told by a well-known lawyer nud bon-mmnt of
Edinburgh, who died from thirty-live to forty
years ago.' The Doctor, riding along the road
during bis Scottish tour, asked the wiiy of a country
lad w*ho was rimning with swollen cheeks and
reddened complexion. Receiying no answer, he
came down on the lad^s shoulders smartly with
his riding^whip. The cheeks collapsed, and a
white fluid spurted forth, when Johnson was thus
accosted r — ** Ob, f^ir, what hae ye dune ? an* mo
rinnin' seeyen mile wi' a moothfu' o' milk to a
sick wean I " This story I hato never seen ioi
print. W. T. M.
Ballads bt Lai»t Mart Wortlbt Moittagu
AND Lord Chesterfield. — I'erhaps one of the
most remarkable cases was that attributing to Lady
Mary Wortley Montagu the balkd on Arthur
Gray, which made not only Mrs. Murray, its
victim, but also her friend Lady Hervey, forswear
her ladyship ^8 acquaintance, lidy IVIary acknow-
ledged the suiHciently annoying ode of the erotic
footman to his mistress, which the noble editor of
her works has lately included amongst them, with
perhaps Bligbtly questionable taste. Tho ballad
IS saia to have been a much more scandalous
affair, and was not acknowledged.
This ballad took, because Gray the footman was
for many days imder aentence of death in New-
gate, "fhe couit htsd juat ift^Tk^^e^ ^ \jtvxySL
German doctor lot a much. mQi^ Votrw^ ^ixa&a
208
NOTES AND QUERIES. [i»«»s.Tn.MAj«iiii,
wliicli he ftccomplialiec!, and l»y the entreaties of
llio amiable fjfuiiiljftgpHeYed the other silly fellow
VFQs let off for his Insane conduct. Gray was aent
to the North American nettlement^, much as the
Irish prisoners were lately sent to New York, bnt
nothing seems to be known of hb future existence."
Lord Cht-sterfield wrote a ballad on the order
of the Bath, which was said to be equally witty
and satirical, and to which his fall wa.^ attributed
when a change of ministry waa made about the
time. It was perhaps the match which set the
powder on fire, but there was probably a magazine
Qt ejLplosiye materials somewhere. E, C.
Bell-Hahp. — What kind of instniment waa the
l>ell-h«q>, which u&ed to be played upon in the
early part of Iftst century ? Perhaps some musical
reader will be able to answer this query in an early
number, L« J.
[The l)dl harp is a nitutcal instrament of the string
kind, thuf called from the players on it SMringing it about
lui n licU on it* baaii*. It ia* about three feet lonp ; ita
Btrln^t which are of no determiDate nnmber, are of bmsa
or ateel wire, fixed at one end, and slrctehed acroas the
fiourn.l-lioard by screws fixed at the other. It takes in
four octaves, according to the number of the string
which are struck only with the thumb*, the right hand
playing the Irchle, ninl ihe left hand the haaa ; and, in
oid<ir to draw the Sf^und the clearer, tlie thumbi are
armed with a little wire pin. There is an engraving of it
ID Tfl9 London En<yctopmJuif xi. fiO.]
BEZiWT AND Florix. — In documents of the
Ididdle Ages frequent mention is made of golden
florin« and bez«nt». What was the vtilue of these
coina ? Where were they ptruck, and were they
in general circulation, or only used for calculating
the value of money ? A. K L.
[Ciold florins were first strttck by Edward HI. in 1344 i
the h/ilf and quarter florin were ittruck at the s^^ine time.
The florin waa then to go for six mhilUtiigek t ho ugh now it
would be intrjii»i{!ally worth nineteen. Jn the year 1327
that |>rincfl bad previoush' purchaafd 174 rtoVitu from
Fhirence, the price of each bciiig 3lUt/. *' N. & Q>," i"
ai. UD.
Drzant, or Bezant, wa« a coin of pur? j^ld, nrniek at
Byzantium in the time of the Chri*lirtn i ; and
hence the gold oll'cred by our kings on ! itlvd
hrmnt. It feems to have been current i : Tram
the tenth ccn«ur>^ till the time of Edward IIL hs value
ia not precisely asecrtarned, but it h gencrallv estimated
at ^»,Ay, sterling. The origin and u*e of'bezanta are
jicrintiHl out by Camden, Remains^ art. " Money/' Conaalt
also " N. & Q-," 2»*» a V. 258.]
[• The Epistle from Arthur tJray, the footman, to
Mr>- Murray, after his condemn at ion for uttempiini;^ to
eomiiiit violence, i^alsi* printed In Tht Letters mid Workn
rt/ Lufiy Mary IFort/ey AJuntoffH, edited by W« Moy
Thomas edit. 1801* it. 478, The eircitm«tance took place
€?n Oct. 1, 1721. See Stieci TriaU, !2nio. 1742.— Ei*.]
BoBiDiL. — Ben Jonson*9 buU? and oon
named BohadiL Could it be because tb© Mt,
governor of Cuba, who sent borne Coluo
chains, waa ** Bobadilla " ? Ben 'a ** Boba '
ma?t agreeable bra^rgadocio, and in thi«,|
very dilFerent fr^^m the sullen ruffian who *"
the Spani^sb name by bis atrocioua condue
great navigator and discoverer.
rP
[Giflford'9 note on this cowardly '
teresting, Hcaaya : ** Bobadil has ne\
stood, and tber^fore is always too J ^ .
because he ia a boaster and a cowarU, he la cur:
di^tniaeed as a mere copy of ih© ancient bully, or wha
more ridiculous^ of Pistol ; but Bobadil is a creaturt i
gtnerh^ and perfectly ori^nal. The § oldier of the Greek
comedy, from whom'Whalley wishes to derive him, 1
not maay traits in common with Bobadil. . . • Bob
is staliied with do inordijiate vice, and is beaidii
fruj?at, that * a huiich of radishca and a pipe ta ^skmi
orifice of his stomach/ ^tidfy aU h!^ wanto. Add td T
that the vanity of the ancient soldier [in the i
comedy] is accompanied with stich deplorable St™
that all temptatimi to mirth is taken away;
Bobadil is rt-ally amusing. Hhi gravity, which
most in flexible nature, contrasL^i admirably
situations into which he is thrown ; and tbouslNi
baffled^ and dis^aceil, he never so far forgets oil
to aid in his own discomfiture. He has no j
like Besaas and ParoUes, to betray his real cba
expose himself to unoecesaary contempt. *
Bobadil haa manv distinguishing traif^, rmd
ceding brog^rt shall be discovered w 1 1
than big words and beating to charat r
not be amifls to allow JoQion the cit,,.. ... .
pendud entirelv on his own resoarces^^'^oojoa's i
by Gifford, ed.' 1816. L IGO.]
CnArcBR*8 " SfliPMiN/' — What is the meaninj
of the line {Prohf/nc, 400) ?—
" By water he sente hem hootn to every lantt*'
Professor Morley pnzxles me by paraphn
{Etujlhh Wriiern, ii. i2t>8), " he sent home hit I
by water to every land." I have somotimea 1
inclined to think that the line meant ** ha mai
the vanquiahed walk the plank " ; but 1 doaUj
Chaucer a typical sailor waa given to such pimtia
habits. Protably to many pople th
ficulty in the passage. Will one of thn^ "i
me down an ass " F Joasr .
Rustington, near Littlehampton, Sossex.
Doan58D\Y. — Among the various hooki
papers which have been written upon Dou
IS there to be found any attempt to trar
many pertsona recorded there aa holder* i
have repreaentatives in the present day f
E?rrtLtsn QrKBN nuuiEn at r
The inhaliitrtnt3 of Porto Fino (a
the foot of the headland of the bj
Gulf of Genoa) haves a tradition
queen was onee buried there. W <• i. ^m.
bable hiatorical grounds for this belief?
i**&vn.jsfAiicii 11/710 AZOTES AND QUERIES.
209
*' Et facerb SciiiBENDi.*' — Ej wliom, and of
whom^ lifia it been said that ho was competent " et
Ucnw iiJTibeiida, et scribere legenda"? B,
BiLLcLD OF Ladt Ferhers. — Ts there nny
foundfttioE in truth for the balUid of '* Lady
Fam?rs of Markrate Cell " ? It professes to ho
foircded on tradidon and fnct, and a ay 9 that
' eof the hentine, her singular habita and
d r^f*>T, tT>«» sltpmate sedusion and splendour of
ii as mysterious close, fomi a detail
r itfordjiliirc, at tb« htimlet wbich
The story is, that she entertained her frienda hy
dty and went out marauding at night, cU^lhed
in amiour, plundering and slaying ftU the traTel-
Ioti e^he could lay her hands upon. She was in
the hahit of lockiug the servants in their roomi at
night find letting them out in the morning} but
one day no door^a were opened. A jn'ooni in despair
lit la»t breaking through onPTthey discovered that
tbtj lady's bed was empty, and at lost they found
b»jr»*irj Y'rM nrmnur, deacf on the turret stairs. She
bad b' by an accidental fall on her road
out A /dirk wa:3 found fiocurely fastened
bher gifdk. The date of the ballad is 1811.
Margaret Gaity.
QftCAT Mait alluded to uy Arnold in a
H05.— ^Who 13 supposed to be alluded to in
Iki folloxviug? —
" On'- nfiht ffreategt men nfour time has declared that,
I ]<ttn of bis life, be did not believ*? in the
i ur Lord. . , , . wbilc, in hi* kilter liffjie
•tour»rr«j u with all hia heart ttud iioul/'—Df. Arnold's
Stnmh V. 404.
J. H. B.
[Tbf Ttf^rmcc ia vrron^; there is iiille tloul>t that tho
■Won Wi^. to S. T. Colurtdgt!. WLiat i^i tLic text of the
mm}]
l?rpr%TRrRS OF Enolajtd,^ — Does there exiat a
^ ptiTo of the industries of EngUmd,
lie one published early in 180i> on the
I <^/ Scotland by D. Bremner ?
B. T. J.
Of Shipboard. — Were commanders
formerly in the hnbit of keepin^^ a
r aboard flhip j and if eo, when was
abandoned? Here is ouo instance,
rrative of Richard Seller, a fisherman,
the service in 1&V> : —
t the commander's je»tcr^ nnd told the
Liv a ^inea with him ttmt he would
' hale tiie king's ropes'; and told the
i rctol*: BO two gamea* were thrown
; then Th(! jester called for two sea-
itj > ropes fast to the wrists of
Afr s throu|;;h two hloek? in
•HI H>nrd Hdp» and hois ed me
oft '-.M, to the ijunnel of the
u then the jester called tbe
AccmjaiiY lu h' 111 111, uud bear him witness, that be
I the '-^taVrr bale the king's rope^' ; so veering tbe
ropes, they lowered me hftlf-waj dowu, then mftdo mc f.ist
Bgain ; • 5fow/ said the je^ter^ * noble captain, you and
th« company see that tbe Quaker haleth tbe klng*s ropes/
And with that be comumnded them to * let fly tbe ropes
loose/ when I foil upon the deck. * Now,* said the jester,
* Qohle captain^ Lh« wager ia won : he baled tha ropes
to tbe deck, and you can hale them no farther, nor any
raan ulse.* " — Sufcrin^* o/iht Quaker*, bv Joseph Beisdw?,
London, 17^3, iil 113.
ThOS. StBWAKDSON, JF2f,
JuDioUL Oaths.— Has it ever bees noticed for
the coasidemtion of that class who object to
taking oaths in courts of justice, because it ia
forbid in the Bible under the injunction ** Swear
not at all," that there ia another injunction in the
Bible, in equally imperative language, which they
entirely disregard — *' Call no man father upon the
earth** (Matt. xxiiL 9) F If any of your readers
are of the cla?^ I have mentioned, it would bo
entisfactory to know from him why it la that tha
ono command ia so rigidly con^truedi while tho
other i* wholly disobeyed ? G»
Edinburgh,
Moor Park. — Are there extant any earl v en-
gravings of Moor Prtrk, or Moro Lodge, in flert-
ftud shire, m it existed in the time of James L or
Charles 1,, or any account of the beautiful gar-
dens, other than that given by Sir William
Temple ? M. P,
MoRTiitER, Earl op March. — In the Ilarleian
MSS*, Mortimer, Earl of March, who married tha
daughter of the Earl of Sahahury, ia stated to
have left two sons —Edmund, his successor in
both oarldoms, and Edward, from whom is traced
therein a long line. Sir B. Burke, iu his E.vtinct
Baronies f doea not mention Edward the second
son. Can any cue give me information on thia
matter, or where to look farther for such ?
J. A.
MouBMNQ oa Blackedged Wrtttko Paper.
I have lately been endeavouring to find out when
the use of mourning stationery came into use in
England, and was under the impression that I
should find some information on tbe subject in
these pages. Ila^ ing, however, searched the pro^
ceding volumes without success, I subjoin a few'
conjectures of my own.
When did blackedged writing paper come into
use ? 1 believe that the large 4 to writing paper,
capable of being folded so as to form a cover, waa
in common use in England until 1840, when, tha
weight of a letter carried for one penny ben _
restricted to half an ounce, the 4to kiicr paper '
was gradually superseded hj the 8vo note pnper.
The 8vo note paner had, however, this tlis^
advantage — it could not be folded so ns to ensure 1
secrecy : a cover therefore became a nece^ity. ^
Our ever-inventive neighbours— the French — sent
U9 the thing we wanted, and mad© us a oresent of
the name enveloppe. The use of blackedged nota
910
NOTES AND QUERIES. 14*I'S,tilmabc«u,71|
paper ftnd envelopes (for we have declined to uae
the second;;) would therefore seem to havo Arisen
after 1840. But how came black to creep on the
inarg:itt of writing paper? Perhaps thus : I sup-
pose it to have been custoinftry long: before 1840
for andertakera, on the occasion of a funeral, to
send out hat ban da and gloves to moumera in a
gigiuttic envelope which was blackedged« Thence,
I presnmef the smaller envelopes for notes re-
ceived a black edge, which at lost crept inside,
where now we are sometimes alarmed to see it
obtruding from one-sixteenth to three-aunrters of
fui inch all round the eurfaee of a ainall sheet of
paper I But was there no blackedged letterpaper
before 1840 of the 4to size ? I am not aware taat
there was, 1 believe that no ancient blackedged
Iciter paper U known in the British Museum, I
have myself several old letters in 4to with deli-
cate gUt edgeSj but none with the hideous black
margins of the present day.
I suppose that black sealing wax is as old as
the red wax ; and black wax was, I imagine, the
earliest and onlv token of moiimiog employed in
letter- writing, dating perhaps from 1556,
I shall be glad^ however, to be set right by
aome of your venerable and honoured correspon-
deAtB if, in the above statement, my inexperience
has led me into error. W. II* 8.
Hr3, Oosr.— Who was Mrs. Com ? She waa a
lady interested in muiic, evidently, for her name
figures upon a sonata fur pianoforte by the Inte
Samuel Wesley (which is chiefly made up of
fiigtte upon a subject by Salomau ; so that she
must have had a t^te for the abstruse), and again
upon a sonata by WoelH. I think I have seen
her name upon other title -pages, but I cannot
remember wliat they were. VV. J, Wijstueook.
Paslbt orPaslhwe.— In the decayed diocesan
Tetums or manuscripts of the registers of Iluyton,
near Kunwsley, ia an entry, I think, of a burial :
" 1G39, Henriette Maria . , . Christopher Pasley
* . . , et h. of Tarbock.*' I am desirous of know-
ing what family this Pasloy belonged to, in order
to learn its connection with the Torbocks of Tar*
bock, near Huyton. The laat abbot of Whitley
was, 1 believe, a Pa*lewe; and in 1507, ''ELiz*'**
fib Xfer. No well," of Little Mereley, co, Livn-
caater, Gent, was married to Thomas Pawslowe,
or Paslewe, of Winewell, co. Lancaster, Gent,
It ia not improbable, notwithstanding the diffeiv
enoe in spellings that the issue of this marriage
WAS the above-named Christopher Pauley, who,
no doubt, married a I'arbock, StanloVi or Molv-
neux. There wus Henriette Maria Stanley (daugb-
ter of James, seventh Earl of Derby), who was
married to Viscount Alolvnetix, and secondly to
Wm. Wentworth, Earl of Strafford j but <^be was
born in 1030, and died in Hj^j, T. HELSBr.
PoacEiAJX Qfkht* — What English chukA wt
marked m ^^ in a rather antiquated etyltf
My specimens are in imitatiou of OrientaL
Jt C* J^
PsA^Lit XXIII. — Who is the author of a i
beginning —
" The Lord is my Shqiherd, no want ihidl b# laitiei |
In pajittirefl of verdure he make^ me rcdiae ** f
Can any of your wwrespondents sunply
remainder of the psalm ? J* t; lit%%
[Jnmas Montgam<:ry U the aathor of a psalm i
mencLDg —
*^T1ifi Lord ia my Sbtpherdp no want fhjdl 1 kaiiw « \
I feed in grooo pastures, Mfe-folded I rest.**
—The Chriaian PiolmUU «d* 1@25, p. &G,]
Shakespeare's '* Scah^I^." — ^Tn the Drama
Register for 1853 (T. H. Lacy) I find at p. 35 1
following statement : —
** ScAmeUt vrhLob word has oceuiooed ao mabb ^
less discii&i{on, it appears U the e(»mm<m name for Unip
in Cornwall a^ well as ia Ireland^**
This information ia said to be taken from an
annotated copy of The Temped. May I iiAk
this statement can be corroborated aa to the ]
vincial uae of " acamela "? — as of course the <
culty ia thus cleared up. A FoRBlon
The Svn nevkr sets qt^ the Brttwh
MINIONS. — Who waa the author of the now ha
neyed saying that the iun never seta on tbe Briti4
dominions ? Did he borrow the ideafirom Rutiliiif
who says of Kora© (i. 53) —
'^Obraerinl citiua scelerata oblivia eolem
Quam tuu« ex nostro corde rccedat bcnca*
Kam soHa radti^ scqualia tnnnera tood}i^
Qua circumfii^ius Huctuat Oceanoi^
Volvitur ipse libi, qui coatinct omnia, ]
Eque tuia ortos in toa condit equoa."
[Sce*'N.^Q."l«'S.ii. 535.}
StrrERSTinoN in Suffolk* — In a '^Hlwii i
Suffolk resides a voung lad who is afHicteo witt
a glandular swelling, at times very painftil ^
May last his motiiar caught a toad, and in
presence of the lad eewcd it up alive in a *■
wbich she hung on the wall of thft roam '
the cottage in which she lived. The idrn pru^
ing in the woman's mind is tha'
shall have crumbled to dust, her _
swelling will be stanched and will die awhJ-
this a common superetition P Hic kt ruiQ^l
7, Lao caller Gate, \\\
VooDONisM. — What 18 Toodontsm f Fp«tt 1
note in the Lomlm Fitjnr^i of Jan, SSy V
pears to be an American invention. J
account a canard f It is, however, ^taiea m
above paper that a man named —
'* Jtis. AUe made a c
into tbe le;f t^t o!
, . , . Tbc &nflUc Wii. ..., -.,- - ^ — ,— „
4« 8. Vn. March 11,71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
sn
I waft then nedac^d to powder, and strewn in the
f^i.-.#.i. 1 ..-i„-.. v;^ ' T.pcd upon this
iTi jjcnt enter his
It- I . . S »^*"^*» »^'' t'X'
imcU^l tliu niiiiL^ whkii w^ a iaut long, and quite
^ Thig of course reads like a lioax, but what is
I origiu of the tcnn Voodonism ?
JAitES BaiTTEN.
Tnx WffiTK TowEH OF LoTOJON* — Queries upon
np. 10, 25, ,S0, 41, 97, 08, awd 104 of Mr. G. T.
CWk's " Pnrticulars concerning the Military
Aitrhitecturo of the Tower of Loud on " (OUi Lon-
don, Papr IL pp. 13 to 139), published by Mur-
f,18<)7:—
_ Is it probftbk that Williara the Conqueror
orerawed London, for twelve or fourteen years,
^tb a fortress couBisting of a deep ditcli and
rtnwjg palisade only (p. 19), and that he re^itiired
90tae years* experience of the vAliie of the site
More he could deteroune to erect a reguliLr castle
2, Could the White Tower oF London, with
twenty-four feet of foundation towards the river,
ind walls IVom twelre feet to fifteen feet thick
(p. 25), reasonably be said to havo been executed
mhasteCp. 41)?
3, Couid the White Tower have been built" by
aXnrrnrin 'irchitcct x\R a refuge for royalty without
'I ut proper convenieneea, and without
: the usual Norman chevron or itig^-zag
lit (p. 30)?
- there auvthinff in Tertm Jloffenm to show
tkat Gimdulph luilt the While Tower (p. 08)?
5, Did the Normans build with '* mortar tern-
with the blood of beasts*' (Fitzstepheo^
\ p. i04)» or, in plain English^ did the Nor-
\ pound red bricks to mix with their mortar ?
CAQ^idering that the historical events of the
reigTi warrant only a concJueion that
iniildinga of the lioiuRns, the Anglo-
ifred, and of Edward the Eider, were
red or fortified by the Normans, and
t:.^.«i jtTijj- that the Tower of London in parti-
«»lftr wa^ hastily prepared for the Conijueror's
*""^'-' ' ■" the short space of six weeks, is it not,
e, more in accordance with probabi-
'^^^'t of other considerations) that the ,
called was, as Slukeley ehowed
-ii/ which the keen glance of the
Mwqtteror detected the value of, and forthwith
mMfUA to bis own u^e? Kohan,
P*^t p. 22 Mr. dark describes it us tbe White or
dm*! Tiiw»T, ami in tho same volume Mr, Burtt, in nn
«Wt witulrd '^puljlic RffNird Omce'* (Paper iv.
fctlT), ]|A» <iuoltdStiak ; " hnrd TIL, Act Ilf.
*) «0 tluj lIofnaQ i>j White T(>w«r. It
'^jtl \^ tnr^uiiKn\^.~ ordered Ed ric to he
»> hoad pLtoi'd <'W the Tower of London,
I* : tide rose, witehed by this Tharaes.
I
Why does a fewly-borj^ Child cst? —
David Copperfield waa bom at midnight on a
Friday, and ** it wiis remarked that the clock
began to strike and ho to cry aimultaneously,"
Lucre ti ufl (v, 227) gives the epicurean reason' in
Ilia beautiful linea on infancy : —
" Vagituf|uc locum luguhri complete ut jpqutim est,
Qutii tttnlum in vita restot transirc inalorum.**
Augustine says (reference, nlaa ! lost)^
'•Potcirat ridere prins puer qui uaacitur, quarc a fltdo
iDcipit vivure? ridere nruidLim imvit^ quale plorare jam
novit ? cjuia ccepit ire in iatam vitam."
By way of showing Augustine's familiarity with
nnraer}' lore, it is worth while quoting from him
( Cofifdfi. i. 0), when an infant first gmiles: — " Post
et ridere ccepi, dormiens primo, deinde vigilans/'
There is a beautiful poem on this idea culled
^* The First Smilei" in Keble*s Lyra hmvcmtmm,
of whichj however, only the first stanza is his,
Pelaghj^,
llr|]ltti^«
"FRASKR'S MAGAZINE**: ** GALLERY
OF ILLUSTRIOUS LITERARY CHARACTERS."
(4*'» S. vii. 31.)
The list furnished by J. F. M. of the remark-
able gallery of portraits which, for the first
brilliant decade of her existence^ formed ao dia- i
tinclive a characteristic of ** Regioa/* is so nearlj '
complete, that were it not for the opportunity of
setting it forth in chronological order from a copy
before me,^ and appending a few notes that may
not be devoid of interest, it might well be allowed
to remain Tvithout alteration or addition.
The first number of Frastr's Mngazim appeared
on Feb, 1, 1830 : the '^ Gallery '* was commenced in
the number for Jime following, with the * )f8«Aqr j
of William Jerdan, accomnanied by a qimd bio*
graphico -critical sketch, which, we are informed,
is ^* written in our most elaborate style/ ^ From
this period to Dec. 183G, no month failed to bring
forth its portrait and its illustrative page of letter-
press. A gap then occurred. An attempt to
resume the series was made in 1838 ; but some-
bow the old spirit was gone, and the series was
closed in the month of April by the portly form
of Sydney Smith, of merry and reverend memory.
The following list will be found to present tha
entire series In due chronological sequdnce : —
voiA 1830.
L June. William Jerdan.
July. Thorn M CAm pbe JL
I L August. J. G. LoiktiiJtt.
September, SnmucI 1; . .
Ortober. Thomas iluufc,
November. Sir Walter 8cQtt,
DL-ccaibcr. John tialt.
Jaunary.
183L
William Mftgian. •• Tbft liwX^x?
212
XOTES AND QUERIES. [I'^s.vu. MAnctiiv
Just at thiB period (to digress for a moment) a
poom, " In Laudem Regflon?," appeared from tJie
pen of the late F. W. N. Bajley. Altbou^h of
no special merit, I shaU tranflcribe a couple of
etiLDZdfl des^riptire of the portraita which had
already appeared : —
" With portraits of our leametl men
It make? the ivorUi flc-nmint^-nl;
To see their phloxes p^jnuilletl there
Is next to beinif sat m ted !
Jtrdan WW& dmwn m? Jerdau iJ
When ettming dewa arc falling!
Sir Waiter walked about his ^rotmdf.
To hi-1 northern watcli-do^ calling.
CaU ^vAnn'd bis inexpres&ihles
Before ft ronricg fire!
And R^ert looked aa much amaied
As one could well desire.
** Lockkari^ the comet of the Xorth^
Hit brown cignr was smoking;
■e gazed upon the clement skiwi»
idlookM like Momuu jokini? I
Maori
And
Camjtlfelt^ with lengthy pipe in haiid^
ScomM like a god io clover I
Jdt^Hfh nrrnyed in now brown 5cratoli»
A gen Ik- man all over.
Crftkcr, the Irish fairy king,
And U be TOO of the modems,
With sevcrnl others vet to come,
Who doubtless will be odd 'uns 1 "
But to resume my list : —
VOLS. 1831.
lU. Febrttury. Croflon Croker.
51arch« Mrs. ^'orioa.
April. John Wilson.
May. Mary Rn«Bell M it ford.
June Don Telesforo de Trucbtt y Coaio,
Jidy. The Earl of M unster,
IV. Au^st Lord John RusselK
September, John Wilson Croker,
October. Tydua Pooh-Pooh, *^Our Man of
November. Washington Irving.
Bocember. Lord Bronghum and Yanx,
1832.
January. Robert Montgomen\
V. February. James Hogg,
March. The Baron von Goethe.
April. Israel {sic) D'lsraeli.
May. The Antiquaries.
June. Louis Eu!«tache t'de,
July. Kcv, Doctor Lardner.
YI. AnjjuAt. Edward Lytton Bulwer.
September. A I Inn Cunningham.
tJctobpr. William Wordsworth.
November, Sir David Brewster.
December. WilUam Koscoe,
1833.
VII. JanUftry. Prince de Talleyrand.
February. .Tuines Morier.
Atrtrch. C(.unt*!AS of Bles^intrton.
April. *^ The Tiger " ( VV. Duidup.)
JMay. Henjumiii Dl*iTaeli.
J unc. Thomas Carlykv
YIII. July. Samuel Taylor fVIi riifge.
A u^ast. (j eorge C r uiksh., n k,
JScptember, JJr, Moit,
October.
Kovciintier.
December,
IX. January.
FobrQ.*iry,
Miirch. '
April. *
May.
June*
X, July.
August,
S<»(»tcmbcr,
October.
November.
December.
XI.
XIL
Januarj*.
Fubrua'rj'.
March.
April.
May,
June,
July,
August*
September.
October.
Kuvfmbcr.
December.
XIU.
1833.
Miss Landon.
Mi» Harriet Martineau.
Grant Tborbum (** Laurie ToddJ
183L
Captain Rossu
Sir Egerton Brydg<e«.
Daniel O'Conuell andEichiidl
Shiel.
Theodore Hook,
Charles Molloy VVe»tmacott.
Leigh Hunt.
W. H. Aln«worth.
Thomaa Hill.
Rev. George Robert Ukig.
WiUiam Godwin.
James Smith.
Count D'Ursay,
183.>.
The Erase ri ana.
Charles Lamb.
Pierre Jean de Bcranger.
Pkfiss June Porter.
Lady Morgan.
Alaric Attik Watts.
I^ord Franci-* Egerton,
Hcnr>' O'Brien.
Michael Thomas Sadler.
William CobbelL
Earl of Molgrave.
Robert Macniih.
1836.
Begiua*s Maids of Hoao!
Michael Faradav.
Rev. WiUiam U^le Bow1(
Francis Place,
Sir Ji.hn C. Hublioit^c
Mrs. S. C. Hall.
Mr. Serjeant Talfourd,
Sir John Soane.
Sheridan Knowle*.
Lord Lyndhnrtt.
Edmund Lodge.
John Baldwin Buckatonev
January.
February.
March.
ApriL
May.
June.
XIY. Jul}',
August.
September.
Octol>cr.
Novell t>cr.
December.
XY. None.
Here ia a solution in the continuity — -
series. No portraits appoai^ed in this volunM
editor expressing in hi^ preface the fear tk^
readers will mias "our old familiar faceH
peculiar featnre of the tnagaxine — our
Gallery." Htj adds: —
** \Vc cannot avtiid seeing that onr origl
of giving our readera sketches of iiluslriitui
ractcrSp can hardly be kept up. , , . Com]
reached us that some, occjiaionallv prewntcd,
thli condition. . . . intend to lie fallow in
department for a timet, bopiug that a new ci
up fit for the industry of our labourers."
vot^.
XVI. None
1838.
XVil. March. Sir WilUam Mdesworth.
April. Rev. Sydney Smith.
Here the series terminates, and I am
that other plates appeared. I take the
r faceH
d,doii(»l
le^
, M^ncu IJ,7I.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
213
from a later Tolamo of tbe luagaziue
p.21):_
te pOTirmta: omit Tydas Pooh-rooli,
idd SlikU who appears on lAtae pkco
Sobbctt . . . . , 78
I in ♦* The Fraaoriiins " : deduct 18 wbich
previously appeared, leaviu^ ♦ . 9
!n "TKc Anfu]uaxiea"; deduct li which
'v Appeared, leaving . . 15
Maida of Hofiuur'* had had n
*.».. i,....c lo herself . . . *«
r<Qlal Dum Lxr of portraits , . 102
8 lis which AppeAT for the firat titue in
ans " are —
r, Bimki. Franm Murphr.
uhill, Bn*on W. rroctor (" Barry
ler. ConiwftlL**)
ltd IrvinfT. Robert Sotithcy.
liaMahony. William 31. Thackeray,
lAQ he littlo doubt thnt the next figure
|4> the right of Dr. Magiuu ia intended
le?; the aqoiline contour of the face
that of the Laureate^ and the identiii-
corroborated by Mahony JQ his repro-
f the cartoon for BohD*8 edition of T/ie
f Futhev Prout, Still it ia curioua that in
paper, *' The Fraaeriana '* {FruAcrs Ma^.
foathej^ is not mentioned, and Maclise
D AS ailting to the l«ft (if Bnrry Corn-
ofton Croker, in hb after -dinner speech,
re weireall chatteriDg and g»bhliaj^ about the
II kiodfl of writing people, wo were for^jettiog
wft^ ftittini* nmong us a decent fellow, who
^^ in a manner never beat yet.
I riani(^ for it ia ihtugeriitis ia
. rti he ij*, Dan — I Ijt'^ i>ardon»
ncominnn near making a »lip of the tongue —
Mr, Alfptd Croquis, sitting cheek by jowl to
* aud a neat article he ia — 1 mean
II as I mean Com walL Them he
ru aa A yonng lady at ji chrUtcnint^
ick Uj him ; only be b caricaturing u$ all the
he iJ itrtifig there as quiet aa if he were a
cheese. N ' 1^1 give his hejilib, and
0 live to 1 \r\x. Here's your health,
Joy 1 — Alii , n, only Wl the ume
DtJctor" must huve made a mistake;
hare known big rig-ht-hand neighbour —
►Fed, it Is true— but then, it was after
owing appear for the first titne in " The
!a " : —
rdoen. Willjam H, llanuUnn.
0rook«* Ahred John Rcmpe.
ififile* liobert Lemoo,
J. Mariin.
EUli. John Buwyer Nichola,
Sir llarria Nicolas.
lert. William Henry Hoiiscr.
Shortly after the discontinunnce of the series
was issued in a aubstaiitive form " A Collection
of Literary Portraita from Frtiscrs MagnzineP
The following were the plates selected : —
1. The Society of Ami- 17. John Gfh^on Lockhart.
quariea. 18. D; ' m.j*
2. The Countcsa of Ble«»- 19, Mi
in^on. 20. Ki ' -1 „ mcQ'*
3. Lord Brougham and "21. Thomas Moore.
Vaux. 22. James Morier,
4. EdwardLyttonBulwer, 23. Tho Earl of M iiu*tcr.
6, Thomas Campbell. 24. Hon. Mr*. Norton.
6. The Right Hon. John *25. Bamtiel Ktj;j:ers.
Wilson Croker. 26. William Koscoe.
7. ThotnasCrofton Croker, 27. Lord John Hno&elh
8. Allan Cunningham. 24», Sir Walter S<:ott.
9. Beiijamtn D'lanieli. 2'J, Prince do Tallevrand,
10. Isaac DTsraelL ao, Don Teleaforo de Tracha
11. John Gait, v Coaio.
12. The Baron Von Goethe 31. tydus Pooh^Pooh.
13. James Hogg. 3'i. Lonia Eustrtclie Ude,
14. Wa'^hington Irving, £3. ProtoHsnr Wilson.
15. WtlUam Jerdan, 34. William Wordsworth.
16. Rev. Doctor Lardner.
A vury limited number of this edition was
piinted ; price two guioeoa plain proofs, and thi'ee
guineas India proofs, of which latter only twenty*
four copies w^re struck olf. The drawings, we
are told, had been destroyed immediately after
their firpt appearance ; and not one had been suf*
fered to get abroad detached imm the maguiae.
It is my opinion that the entire series of the
drawings was the production of Alaclise* They
form a splendid collection, of deep and increas-
ing interest. Some are free outline sketclies with
criiw-quill and lithographic ink,- some artist**
etching^s, and some — as, for instance, the portraits
of Sir David Brewster and Thomas Carlyle — the
moat finished productions of the hurin^ in the
highest style of the engraver*8 art. lltjjir the
editor's farewell : —
« How can we part from onr Gallery, without saying
a word or two al-rtiuL hira to whose pencil we are ia-
dttted for it— our old and much-honoured friend Cri«|uis?
...... He is rising every year to higher honours and
renown, and displaying freah prouf* of unwearied genius ;
and though the picturciii which he exhihit^t arc of greater
splendour and loftier aspiration, vet, Ui their own way,
wc maintain that the ftkitchca of (5roquis display aamuch
talent as any production of the best K.A. or A.R,.\. of
the lot — ay, even if you named Maclisk himself.** —
Fraterx Mag. Jan. IdiO, p. 2<J.
Equal Ln tjdent are the accompanying letter-
press sketches. Humorous, le.trocd, racy, pointed,
nnd vigorou.s \ scintillating with witj biting with
irony, or withering with sarcasm, who could have
produced tbem but the DucroR himBclf? In a
feeling and painrully intereating biography written
by his friena^ the modern Deipnit.sopkiat, and nat
by Moir, to whom I have seen it attributed, the
following passage occurs ; —
« A highly popular and delightful feature in thia maga-
zine (/VtucrV, of the catahllshnient of which the tntIui
ha^ just been s^jcaking) was \k*i GaUtr^ oj" L'tlttarj Vot-
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4* s. vn. Mabcu u, 7iJ
ImiVf, the letter{>ress for nearly all of which was wntten
by Mftginn. These Trere cnlirely oiiginal in plan and
execHiioiN and erected a sensation in liUrary circles not
often paralJeled. The isxqubite sketchea by MacUs*)
added nut a little to ihtir Attraction. As a wholo, thry
axv, we think, the most original and sparkling of the
Doctor"* firoductiona ; and when we remember that they
were hit oiT at a moment's notice, we shnll be easily able
to fancy how meteoric waa the iiiuUect from which they
emanated. Wit was their principal recommcnd/ition.
, . * . . And wo never read them without involuntarily
thinking we hear the Doctor speak, for tfapy are jver-
feet resemblances of what hia conversatkn was." — Dublin
(Jnh, Moff, Jan. 1BI4, p. 88.
Ooe aketcli, liowever (that of Goetlie)^ waa
written by Thomas Cailyle, and is iouluded in the
Americaa edition of his Essays: the drawiog'j
too, was not like the others, ad wWwj, but copied
hy MaclJse from the full-lengUi portrait by
Stieler of Munich,
It must not be supposed thai the originals of
the portmitd were invariahly gratified by the
manner in which lyrti^t or author had set them
before their conteniporarics. To some an amende
was made. Thus the editor admits that the ob-
servations on Montgomery, Miss Martineau, and
LarJner, " though not remarkably harsh, were
uncalled-for nnd unjust," ** Lord John RusaeD/^
adda he, "and two or three others should not
have biirn there at all"; and "tfome, as Grant
Thorhnm, the thrice centenarian, Tom Hill, and
Eufitache Ude, were no more than curiosities."
Ahiric Wattfi, who waa depicted as moving oil
from some studio or auction-room, with furtive
speed, n picture under each arm, brought an
action agaiust the publisher to recover damaged
for a libel He got a verdict for 150/. Fniser
applied for a uew trial, and obtained a rule nm ;
but on the case being ht-ard in lancu the trial waa
refii3t-*d on a technical point.
** The Fratw^riana " is certainly the gem of the
whole collection, ^* rendering priceless,'* as the
Graphic said lately in ita notice of MacUse, " the
number of Fraser (the 01st) in which it ap-
peared " ; nor cati I conceive a more interesting or
appropriate ornament than it for the libraries of
those who are fortunate enough to obtain it.
The accompanying paper, entitled also " The
Frastirianaj" is by Maginn, and in his veiy best
style. Mahouy (Father Prout) has written no
further account of this exquisite cartoon than a
MntencG in his preface to Bohn'd edition of the
Beiiquea of Father Pi^nd, to which, for the firat
time, the plate itself, with the name of the original
appended to each portrait, is introduced as ff«n-
tiapiece. This preface bears the date 18ol>, and
m probably that concerning which J, F. M, iu~
quires. At that time — twelve years ago — only
eight out of the twenty -seven guests crowded
round Fraser'a table were living —
. qu6t Hbras in duce summo
What ifl now left of that brilliant assemblage of
wit and learning ?
Of the singular plate, "Tydua Pooh-Poob, o^
Man of Genius," I cannot offor any explanati<
It is described by Fraser himself aa ** a joke,
point of which is now forgotten."
A similar series entitled ** Our Portrait Gallery, _
inferior in interest and artistic merit, but witfc'
much longer and more serious biographical notioe^
will be found in the Dublin University Magasm,
This includes eevcnty-two portraits, and coodadea^
I think, with that of Captain McClure, B.N.»ia
the number for March, 1854, vol. xliii. Tbow
of Moore and J. W* Croker,Tol. xix. ; Dr. Mftginn,
vol. xxiii, ; Crofton Croker, vol. x-xxir, ; and J. 8,
Knowles, vol. xL, have their prototypes in Fraaiti
with which they may be compared.
The signature ** Alfred Cro<jui3,*^ appended to fo
many of the portraits in Fnwers *'Uallyry"by
the late Daniel Macliae, R.A, must not be ooq-
founded with ^'Alfred Crowquill,*' tho vtbU-
known pencil-name by which that clever htuoor*
oua artist and author, Mr. Forrester, has beatt
fumilar to the public for nearly half a cealuiy.
To conclude: **Fiflser** remarks — and hm^
again, do not confuse Ilti^h Fraser, the foondtf
and editor of the magazine, with Jame^ Fraderof
Regent Street, the publisher, — " Fraser,** I i*yi
remarks on the conclusion of his ** Gallery" tlti
it forms '* a valuable present to the future Graa*
ger ; even a^s it is, the collection is in no iucn-
eiderable demand for the purpose of illusif:it i^-?
booksof contemporary literature. . , . Inenotlie:
generation it will form an object of greater cario-
sitr.''
This prediction is verified. What a troJ/
charming book of pictures and prose, the qujiit*
essence, as it were, of Maclise and Maginn, giiring
the very form and pressure of their lif' inrv tjme,
would this century of illustrious chora
But there are^ I nm afraid, grave dn
the way. The stones, plates, and drawings ja*
destroyed, and the necessary process of trtxas^
would be in all cases expensive, in many irupoBtf-
ble. The text alone — Maginn'a graphic pen-plo^
tares — would of itself form a delightful voltta«»
but then the references to the drawings *^,^.
frequent that it would have an ic l<
of imperfection without them. a
production might not be impraclieabi ! or
munerative ; and I for one should heartily
in the possibility of the posaeaeion, in a cm
dious form, of that which, from my boyhood, n^
been to me a eource of constant delight •0'*
interest W^tLLUit BjllB-
iJirnitngliani.
rofttuwf
}r oB^^I
comnMJ'n
1» F, M. will Und Mahony^a account of Msg^
lise'fl picture of ^* The Fraserians '^ for which f"^
Ivn^^ulies, accompnnyiog^ j
KOTES AND QUEiUES.
215
BaWa edition (IBGO) of The lU^Uqucs of Father
r ■ Ii is al^o illQstratti J by others of Mac-
U ?, iucluding tho portraits of B^ranger,
Mi.^3 i. una .11, (Sec. WlXUAM KeLLT.
Leicester.
MOUNT CALVARY.
(4^»> S. vL 642 ; ril. G2, 103.)
In A former communication, at p. C2, 1 quoted
tlie^ words from the 13th C^trcht^^us of St Cyril
_Qf Jerusalem, of which I need not hero repeat the
final Greek : —
lllmt holy find gt^ffremiuent QolgoihB ; and to be Beea
pday.'and flhowing even now how by Chriat tho
ittnL"
I 4tli Cat^chem the holy bishop also says ;
He was troly crucified for our sin «, And if you would
deny thi\ the contpicuous place will convinca you : ihia
lutfT^y GoI;2rnth«, on which we are now oaiaetnbled oti
•oemmt of hini who was cruciiScd upou it.
kgaia, in his 10th Caiechms :^
I TQAyo^kf 6 &'fiof ovTot 6 inrtpainarriKwrf ^ipr{t^i
This holy Golj^otha^ tho mpcreminent^ conrpicuouiftf
"riificft. The mtJst holy monument bcaru witneaa, and
|iA»A£ /yiAj; l/iirre ere» fo l/i»» </«y,
^ow in these pafisagea we have the clear tesH-
Dy of an HI us trio us Father of the Church, who
Biabop of Jerusalem in the fourth century,
I Hred in Jeruaalemf and delivered theae cate-
instructiona even od Calvary itself — that
(same Golgotha, or Calvary, bore eTident wit-
Den to our Lord's crucifixion by its sttpereminetd
tad (onipictioiif and rocl^y appearance: all of which
fettotes prove that Calvary was an elevated spot,
itiil justly called Mount Calvary.
Buf Mr. Thjw dismissofl all this copious testi-
f St, Cyril as " valueless," because the bia-
^1X0 men tells us that the enemies of the
a name walled in the holy sepulchre and
i:e of Cal\'ary, levelled tfie ground, and
- iitju it a temple to Venus, having- previously
fv^ei d tbo place with a huge mound of earth,
:; i r i.«d the pround higher than it was before, I
now appears '■ ; and St Cyril lived long
id transaction. But he declares that at
V timo when he delivered his cateclietical |
s tlje roclts were conspicuous before his
;r being rent at thecrucifiiion^and
: very stjne of the sepulchre was
rv. Clearly, then, cither the rocky :
ilvnrj had never been wholly covered
1^, or it had been loid open again
us of St Helen when she dis- ,'
covered the cross and the holy sepulchre. 8ojo-
men speaks Indeed of Golgotha, as Feen in his
day, being higher than it was before, but it does
not follow that it was not high enouf^^h before to
deserve to ho called a mountain. Tlie object of
ihe pag'aofl was merely to bury up and conceal tha
boly places, but we are still free to believe that \
they were of a certain height before ; while some
parts still retained in the time of Sozomen a con-
siderable portion of the additional elevation of
the pagan mound. It is not likely, however, thut
the rocks had ever been covered ; and they, and
the stone of the sepulchre, before the very eyes of
St. Cyril and his benrers, afford evidence surely
not to be summarily dismissed aa ''Talueless.'*
F. C, IL
I am indebted to Mr. Tew for pointing out the
inaccuracy of the translation of Sozonien (Bohu*3
EccL Lib, ISo/j) to which, not having the ori-
pinal beside me, I had foolishly enough trusted.
Clearly h^ does not mixkti Calvary a mount. But
besides Theodoras, whom I have already quoted,
the Bordeaux pilgrim as clearly does; andhe visited
Jerusalem whde Constantine s chun*h was build-
iug, and about a hundred years before Sozomen
wrote—" A sinistra autem parte est motdiculus
Golgotha, ubi Dominu^ crucitirus est" (Parthey
and Piader'fl edit p. 279.) I cannot follow Ma,
Tew's reasoning as to Cyril beiog no authority.
The discovery of the sepulchre took place a.d. 32(J,
and he was Archbishop of Jerusalem within twenty-
three years after. Most of his catechetical lec-
tures seem to have been actual Iv delivered in the
chtirch of Golgotha ; and ia addition to the pas-
sage fjuoted from these by F. C, IL a similar
expressioQ occurs in his tenih lecture, § ID,
where ho speaks of "Golgotha, this holy place,
conspicuously standing up ({^tpciyfo'rjjKwi) as one
of the witnesses to Clirist.
Whilst upon this subject, I may be allowed to
notice that hitherto, while tho supporters of Mr.
Ferguson's theory that the Dome of the Rock is
the Auastasis of Constantine could point to vari-
ous authors in the early centuries who identified
the scene of Christ's passion with the bill on
which Abraham ofTered up Isaac, and to various
others who identified this latter with tho Temple
hill, no fliagle writer has yet been found wlio
could be proved to have held both these positions.
St. Jerome, indeed, iu his Commentary on Genesis
xxii. 2, and again on Jeremiah xxvL 4, describes
the mount on which the Temple was built as that
on which Isaac was otlf^red j and he is also staled
by Augustine (Sermo 71, Be temjmre) to have
written somewhere *^ that he most certainly knew
from ancieut authors and elder Jews that Isaac
was sacriftced on the spot where afterwards Christ
was crucified." But no passage to this effect can
bo found ia Ku extant wot\iSj\xxi\<i^^^NsL^^5Aa
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4** s.Tli. M^tncn n, 7i
the Comnn^ntnVT on St. Mark tippeuded to Ins
WTUinjB:^ (edit. Venet 1771» toiu. ii. pnra 3, p. 125),
but wLici u generally Wieved to be from another
hand, 1 have, however, in the version of the
tract of Theodorus (to ivhom 1 have already re-
ferred, and who ia held by Ttibler, and I believe
rightly, to have written towards the close of the
sixth centurj) in the Cottoniao Library of the
BritiBh Mueeum (Titos, D, in.), found the follow-
ing remarkable passage, which haA never before
been published : Dr. Tobler, in his recension of
the ^I8S,, having? in this place adhered to the
Paria and St. Gall veraiond :^ —
*' From the pftg^ioa of the Lord, whicli la the place of
Calvary to the s«pulclirc of the LonU liftcen paces. There
men were pur>?tHi from thi'ir i^im.* There Abraham
offered hh ton for a burnt offering to the Lord ; and be-
ejiuse the mount i» rocky it is aaeended by atepa. There
thp cfofts uf the Lord waa found, whi*re it ia called Gol-
^iilhfl. There are again some who allirni that the cross
itsclf^t which touched the nnknd bo«ly of the Lord aiid
was dyed all over with Hi* bliMjd, was forthwith carried
ftway frcHU human touch and slight to heaveD, and wiU
at lait Appear at the judgment. And note that the place
of JeruHJiIf'ni, whkli is ealled the valley of visioQ bv
Isaiah the proBhet^ is tho eminence | ttf Moria, ou which
mi mm it also ia the little hill calhni Moria on which
Abraham sacrificed rsaacv Where the Jewa report that
ifvvard^l the Temple wag built, and an altiir, on
Whmi [liill] aUo Abraham made an sltar, atid David
law the angel sheathing tho sword in the threshing-tloor
of Urn a tlio Jebtifite."
Whatever else may be thought of the above,
one tiling seems clear, that the writer believed the
eame spot to have witoeaaed in auccesaiou the
offering of Isaac, the vision of the angel at Araii-
nah's tbre*hing-iloor, the binlding of tlie Temple,
and the death and burial of our Saviour.
Alex. B. M^Gkioor.
1^1 Woodiide Terrace, Glasgow.
MEANLSG or "FOG/*
(•!*»' S. vii. 00,)
Fog 19 ft common word, used ia South Lanciu*lilre,
aa applied to tho aftermath^ ^ddUh, or second crop
of gruas in meadows.
In Ihf Fylde district of North Lancashire the
term /oy id applied to the long ^rasa in pEtstures
not ealen by cattle, but which becomes withered
and bli^ached by the winter's frost.
l?jiiley, in the tenth edition of hifl Unt/Ush Die-
tionari/f a ay a : —
** Fuo [probally of aWogare (Italian)* (o eh oak, be-
cause it i^ m it were cftoakod with the cold of the fol-
lowing %viuter]. Corn which growa after autumn, and
remains in pasture till winter/'
• **Dccaluabaiituf " read *• decalcabantar" = wcre
whitenc<l,
t " Pucem oriiMim ** re^id ^ cruccm ipsjim/'
X The text here is very difticnit to decipher, and ap-
P*wiilly very corrupt It secm^ to read, **. . . al> JssJa
profihHa ttminvnlmm Moiiam in nuoque sumiuo est mon-
e/vu/uM Mitrlt dh'ttiH/*
Al5o: —
*' FOGAOE
F«>OGK^ } ^*°^ ^"^ *^* ^^^^ '" summer*" H
Jambs PkabsqirS
red
[id
i
Milnrow*
In the paridh of Diminn, Hfeshirei was ft p(»»-
tion of land or outfield glebe called the **I'og-
gage/^ into which the minister'a cows were turned
to pasture, Thia, &s I remember it^ would not ha
inaptly described by your quotation from Wedg-
wood, viz, ** grasa not eaten down in summer,
thftt grows in tuft« over the winter/^ This plnce
abounded with whina and broom, and presented
all over patches or tufts of dried or weAthered
grass in various stages of decay. In a Glotiorjfoft
the Diakct of Craven (London, 1828) this word 1
given —
" FoOt ofter-graw, afUrmatb, not ia the BenwofDa-
cange in v. fngagium^ or winter eata^e, or in that of Ei/«.
See JuniuB,"
Again : —
** Foo. This woffl U used when farm era take Iho cittl*
out of their pastures iu autumn; they say, *lb»7W«
buUfi^ to fog tUKm/ **
In Westmoreland fvg means dead ^afis. The
word seems to be from A.-S./trj/e, dying; Nor?e,
ft'iffioj to rot, from ^vliich too, doubtless, the Wcbh
firff, otherwise foot/. Pinkerton tells us that the
language that wo call Welsh, but which ia probablj
only a corrupt form of the Pictish or early San* j
dinavian, ia full of Danish and EnglLeh woriJ«i|
Many or moat of the place-names in the parish '
of Dunino are Scandioavian, one of wliich cjp*-
cially, called the ^*Tonguefl,*' which not even thtf j
most zealous Celt could claim as belonging to hii|
language. J. CJt. B.
Bailey defines —
" Foa [/op^i^'um, Low Lat., 'gramen io f%»ntttai ,
to^atur \m}ft>ffaf}io.* — Leges for Scot,], After-graas, of tM
which (^rowa iu autumn after the hay hm been mgirB."
Abo —
" FoQAOK, or FoooE (/oreit lew). Rank graai i
eaten in summer."
An almost similar explanation will be foQiidiD
Ilalliwoirs Jyivtioftary of Arvhaic and Pi^xincid
Words. I may also mention that foff^ f^iftf*^9^t^]
by no means confined in its appellation to after- J
grasa in the south of Scotltmd and Yorkshire; Wtl
like many other words that are set down aa be-l
longing to specified dialects, it is used in tbej
extreme north of Scotland (in Caithness) Tritlii
the same signification as Bailey defines it, I hA^j
often been surprised at the similarity of the folk 1
lore of the north of England and the north oM
Scotland, with a wide space from the lowlands j
of Scotland to the bordtra of England, totally]
dissimilar in the same respect D, GEi>ria.
4»k3.vn. MAiicnn/7Lj KOTES AND QUERIES.
217
Till* vrns a common word in Low Latin ; but
Ijiips the most formal ii*e of the word ftpppara
ihA^e been in Scotlaud* Blount {Law Die-
/) haa —
•* Foc^AOR, F«XiAGitT3f, Foo Of Feo. R/tnk frrass not
eitea in fummer. — LL* Fortitar, Scot,^ cap* xvi."
Malgtie d^Amis, in his abridgment of Dueange
(Pari%186C), 8ayst —
•*FoaJlOL.^. Gratnen ut Fopa^ittmi * iit fAeereot ovea
foat f^rf^ri* in t^rra sua ct *in fognojiw* [«ic] (Anno
12* - ramen »vuo«l ;^'*Ute aon depa^citur,
«t I praiia biemuli tempore succrcscit. —
We ftLotild look perhaps in this direction for ita
derivation, ' E. Marshall^
S* H* is wrong in saying that the word foff " is
commcrti in only parts of Yorkshire/' as 1 haTe
often heard the word used in Leicestershire.
Thare it i^ naed to express that grass which haa
itiU to be eaten off about Michaelmas, which is
TtrvTiinlv mid coarse. **Lattermouth " ia applied
rowth in meadows. T. A,
I amb ridge.
THE BLOCK BOOKS.
(4«' S. u,pamm: x\l 13, 15L)
It if rather agreeable to me than otherwise to
id jrotir correspondent J, C. J. has bo lively a
WeolWtion of the state m en ta made by me* in
1W§ in relation to the St. Christopher (called)
of "142,1/' and whatever blame can be justly
•sorted me for my first assertion, "that the date
•f tbe iSt Chrbtopher had been tampered with/'
1 hm\j accept, merely observing- that in making
•fib a statement I was but fultillinf^ the instinct
V ttmiDo]] fense in denoimcing the idea that nn
J^tbg- of the excellence of the '*St, Christo-
jW" could by any poBsibility have been pro-
ted in "14iJ3.'' 'Tis true I had not then seen
we wgravinj?! simply because the opportunity of
^••toig had been wanting-; bat 1 venture to
«fai^ that to lay down a proposition that ** an
"on on any particular object must not be
' !ie nbaence of an actual inspection of
will be found in practice not only
^^' nient, but ab.Hrdutely prejudicial
-t5 of knowledge and improve-
Mt ekffirteiioii that the "St. Christopher*' was
i in •* 142.1" waa eo dominant, that
linir to be victimised even for a
" '' V which had deceived all
late on the woodcut pre*
' M*i period when it was
voured to suggest a
— «; .^iM. <* iiir uiixui had been perpetrated ;
iB«c> doing 1 but followed in the footsteps of
i«»-rii
learned men who had adopted the same practice,
amon;jr whom I may mention Koning, SotJRman,
and Pinkerton, neither of whom, like myself, had
ever seen the woodcut. Indeed, if your readers
will refer to '* N. & Q /* 4*" S. ii., Sept 19, 18G8.
they will, I believe, find I have there stated the
circumstances in as fair and frank a manner as
could possibly have been either expected or
desired.
Assuming, however, that I was very much to
blame for having ventured to hazard a guess as to
the manner in which the year ** 1423 " had im-
properly been adopted as the date of the engrav-
ing, I now venture to ask J. C. i. whether he ia
prepared to dispute my declaiatian that the " St,
Christopher of 1423" was printed with a print-
in pr-press and printing-ink, and thiit the date
'* 1433 *' ia that of the legend and jubilee year of
St Christopher ? If so, I am perfectly willing to
discuss tho&e questions with him in the columns
of ** N, & Q;' ; and J. C. J, will, I hope, forgive
mo for adding that unless he is ready to do so
hia warning to your readers will become valueless^
and his opinion ** vox et pra^terea nihil.'*
The avowal of J. C, J. that he does not pro-
pose discussing the matter of the ** block-booxs "
with me, renders it unnecessary I should attach
any importance to his placing the onus on mo of
proving that the ** received opinion is false,** I
have very distinctly laid down the propositions I
am prepared to maintain, and I only remain silent
in tne earnest hope that some among the many
of your learned and intelligent corrcsjif>ndents may
take up the subject and contest it fairly in all its
details. At present I am the challenger, not the
challenged. If circumatances should hereafter
legitimately arise to change the relative positions^
I shall notbe found wanting.
IIenrt F, Holt.
Ktng'j Koftd, Claphom Park,
THE ADVENT HYMX: THKLMSLET.'*
(4^»'S. vi. 112; vii. 41, L33.)
IlERMEyTRFDE aslts a vcry proper question, con-
{^idering how much cant is talked respecting this
or that hymn tune at the present time. I may
safely reply, that it is impossible to** make vul-
garity '* tv any combination of sounds apart from
wor<ifl — of musical sounds, that is. ** Plelmsley "
is associated in the minds of some few persons
with a Miss Catley, of questionable fame; but
even those who talt of " Miss Catley*d Hornpipe *'
can tell little of either the lady or the tune.
Those, like Heementritde perhaps, who have
heard **IIelm8ley" sung by a large congregation
to the accompaniment of a skilled orgnoist, will
not readily forget the roll of its sentences, nor
easily learn to admire the characterless tones put
forward to supply its place. Bv\t Utm^ iiCk\.>si«k
218
NOTES AND QUERIES. [i<* s. vu. March u. n.
I
mifiUD^erstood : it is possible to make almost anj
combiQiition or succeBsion of soonds Tulgar by tbe
addition olVords, no matter bow solemn they mav
be, and I can reiidilf believe that ** Helmaley *
would, under some circuinstancea, become vulgar
almost bejond endurance. It ia a melody made
for tbose wbo could sing, or wbo bad tbe feeling
of singers. Thia is an oge wbon dinging ia some-
what at a di^ount, and our tunes have become a
Beries of syllabic jerka — have indeed been made
for people wbo cannot sing, bat con chatter on
like magpies up-on a few notes at any pace you
plea^, Thia explains all W, J. WiaiiJEOOK.
6yd<mhai3i,
There seema to be some canfuaion respecting
the words of the song in The Golden Pip2^iiij the
melody of which waa adapted to form a time for
this hymu. My friend Dr, RniaixTLX (4'" S. vii,
41) states, and his evidence ia corroborated by
Me. William Chappell (Popular Mtmc of the
Oldm Time, p. 748) and other writers, that the
song commences with the Lines : —
" Ga.irdian angels oow protect me,
Scad t4J inc the youth 1 love."
But I bare now before me a copy of the music in
The Golden Pippm^ undated (as usual with music),
but which, from tbe correspondence of the names
of tbe singers prefixed to the several songs, &c»,
with those of the jperformera attached to the dra^
matit pcrsonic on the first performance of tbe bur-
letta at Covent Garden Theatre, on February 6,
1773, 1 believe to be coeval with ibe production
of the piece in which tbe following song appears
in connection with the tune altered for tbe Advent
Hymn, It purports to bave been *' sung by Miss
CaUey," who personated Jano : —
*' Wber^j'a the mortal am resist me ?
Queena rnuNt ev'n^ honour gala ;
Paris surely will aasUt me^
J lino cannot sue in vain.
*• Look in my fJ!lce,^ my fC"?ntle Paria t
C&n Buch boa u tics e'er despair?
Whereas such an eve us tbls ?
Wliere lipa more awt'et to kiss ?
Ohl miiiy my shepherd hear my pray'r."
There is no song commencing *' Guardian an-
gels,*' neither do those words occur in any of the
aoDgs. I bave not seen any copy of tlie piece to
compare it with tbe music.
I should be glad to know bow ihe E?tatement
made by gentlemen eo conversant with such mat-
ters as those I have named, about "Guai-dian
angeU" and the indiaputable fact above men-
tioned, can be reconcifed. Waa oiio mn^ sub-
Btitiited for the other (to tbe mma time) during
the first run of the piece ; and if «o, which ia the
original ? The Ooklcn Pippin was revived at
Covent Garden Theatre on May 11» 1702, not
^^^^^^g he^^ pl^fed lor eight years before ; but as
-«te. MATtfr thm perfonaed'JunOj and tke t\uie
in question ia always a^snolated with Miia Catb
I imagine the alteration (if any) muj^t have b*
made long before then.
Can any one tell me tbe exact date of pi
lication of the CoUection of Psalm tiftd Iiy\
TtmeA fpubliehed for the benefit of tbe Wk
Hospital), -in which the tune fiitt appeared under
the name of " Ilelmslev," and in assi^ciatioa with
the Advent Hymn ? 1 surmise it t:* have bet^o
not verv long after the production of Tii£ GoUkh
Pippin' W. H, IlcrsK.
TUE BALTIMORE AXD '*OLD MORTAtlTr '^
PATERSONS.
(4'^ S. Ti, 187, 207, 290, 351; vii. 60,)
In answer to your correspondent F. B,, I h|W
to state that I waa aware of tbe letter of Sir
Walter Scott to Mr, Train, in which be he«t«tel
to accept " the extraordinary connection betw»ett
the Bonaparte family and ttat of Old Mortalitf.^
I had, however, examined the question as fiiru
I bad it in my power, and had satisfied mjulf
that the weight of evidence, though not a!tog»-
tlier conclusive, waa in favour of this close om-
nection. I hnd communicated with the dewend-
ants of " Old Slortality " in thia countrv, isd
found that the belief of tbe family, thouga they
never bad any intercourge with their Bjutimow
connections, was, that Madame Bon!!^'"-t'' trn^
the daughter of John, son of " Old
Then, as I stated in my former paper, it
gentleman, who gave uis name a.-^ Mr* M*
and also bia address, though it ba,'^
appeared in the church>*aiti of Balgarnock
the last two years (anS of this there can ha
doubt), stating that he had been reqnest&d by
Madame Bonaparte to visit the site wher» h*
grandfather hnd been buried. I believed thafcit
wa3 tbe late Jerome Bonaparte "who bud
the request, but in this I find I bad madoi
take, as my friend who had the iaterviei
Mr. M*Clymont telb me that Madame '^
was the party named, and that it was
grandfatber*a grave that Mr. M'Clymonti
The minister of Galaahielei, of whom Six *
Scott speaks so favourably, is tbe Rev.
thaniel Pat^rson of Free 8t George^s, Glasgol
He states to me, through his daughter* that
^* his friend Mr. BinninprHomeof Aucbeubowie,!
Stirling, brought a General Stewart fr«>m
more to call upon bim* Tbia General
knew the Patersona of Baltimore intimat
talked of them as the descendants of *M>ld
tality.- ^ It will alao be x)bservcd that the
of John's children appeared to follow ibe
Scottish rule of calling tbe eldeat chilJraa
the grandfftlher and grandmother. Robert j
ao called after bis grandfatlier Robert Fafc
\ B2^ '£Xatk\^\.\v tXtfti ker grandmother
"T^
NOTES AND QUERIES,
219
If there be no pelationahipi thia is a curiong
nee. I thougbt, therefore, that I woa
■1 in asfiufijing' that Mndame Booaparte was
addanghter of ** Old Mortality/' as sue herself
tied from Mn M*Clymonta statement to
ere.
-J this opinion, however, it eeema that I have
i&ai mistaken, as I hare received a short time
Affo the following communication from a friend of
Mndame Bonaparte in answer to a letter which I
tnT»tt» with the view of diflcovering, if possible,
r she could assist in settling the question,
. nd writes to the following effect, repn-
r dinHng altogether the connection between the
'Sir,
" Baltimore, Xovcmlier lat, 1870.
EYoor letter of date 7th Oct. 1870 reached Madnme
BAp^rte a condderablc lime after it had 1>ecii writien,
^I am reqtteated by hi^r to iDform yoo, in answer to the
lion addressed by raiiTBdf to her, that she ia not
d toy or descended froro, the Scotch FfHeraouB^ of
I ahe knows notblng whatever.
I«r aoeestors were til bonj in Ireland, and their
bs were spelled Patterson (not Pater^on). She know»
hing whatever of the Scotch Poieraotw, except that
tber are not in any way relativea of the Pattersons of
Lof_of the United States of America.
•* Touts respect fnlfy,
"Jamks L. Baylies."
da^ of 'course, must be accepted as authorita-
bljr clnsing the question ; nor do I wish, aa the
piiy ia a mere matter of antiquaiian intereat^
Ihrow doubts on Madame Bonaparte's dis-
ir, jet, as the belief has been so continuous
fwo loo^ a time that John, the father of Madame
parte, was the son of **01d Mortality/' I
3 like to know whether the Pattersons of
Wifm,,iv. ^Hd ever^ven currency to this report, or
* iiad btdteved in this descent. P* A. L.
i I, who was acquoioted in 1828 with
10 maternal grandfather of Mr. Jerome
L, may be able to throw some light on
^e opinion then held in Bflltimore by the family
^ttpectbg their connection with the old country.
"^ Ckaufurd Tait Kamaqb,
to-XTTERS.^ (OR PEXNYTERSAL)» CUK-
STONE, ETC.
(4t'»avi. 309,479; vii. CO.)
if tiny of the observation a of your correspondents
^JiHEMiAE and J. A, Pioton seem very pro-
' correct, while, as it must be addodi they
' Dd themselves more to the judg^ment thrin
1 J. Ck. R. The landB ot Fiwi^kTsui ara
vated. rather the reverse; still they are
at tne upper end of a \m\g flat piece of
land yet remaining unimproved, and pos-
^^e at any moderate amount of ex-
fien, may be the ttrsai (the poor
I Lu iu'i liaaaei only we would submit wbethet I
sdi may not rather refer to the indigenous mUeach^
sallows, Scotic^ snughF, with which this bo^
abounds and must have always abounded ? AutK^
ensail (such is the present spelling nnd pronuncia-
tion) ia a farm- town in the neigh bo urhood^ and
the name has never been otherwise interpreted
than as the ''willow inclosure/'
Whether Mr. Pictok is as happy in his deduc^
tion of Cun-stone from kona or kntia^ we may be
permitted to doubt. If cmi in Welsh means a
summit, as Mr. JEKEMi\n says, or a head (cmi-iii)
according to Mr. Charnock, may the name not
refer to the aHihcial cairn, inoimd, or knoll within
which was found, iti 1782, the cint-vaert mentioned?
J. Ck. R, admits that it may be descriptive of a
memorial stone belonging to this cairn. But
supposing this view ill-founded, there is another
which may he adopted, that suggested by Pro-
fessor Stephens, in his work on Kunic Inscrip-
tions, where he says (*' N. & Q.,^' 4'-'* B. vii. 68) that
cund or gimd is an old Northern word signifying
battle, wnr. Ileoce, assuming that a correct view,
may not Cim-stone refer to a cairn, or to a rnwio-
lithf reared in memorial of some battle, or of some
potent Celtic chief who fell and waa interred
within the cist-cften f
We would incline to trace the origin of these
place-names to a Celtic, rather than a Scandi-
navian source ; because the most part, if not all,
of the ancient names of places in the district fall,
we believe, to be so referred. For example, thera
are Duchall and Ranfurly (two extensive barome8)|
Dupenny or Dippcnnie, Sclates, Mathknoclc or
Mathernock, Auchenquill, Callsyde or Callasyde,
Auchontiber, Auchenbothie, Craigmarloch, Bar-
drain or Baidrainy, Aucheucloich. Clachers, &c.
(farm towns), and many others, all in the vicinity ;
and it will be seen whether any of these can be
claimed by J. Ck, R. as belonging to the Scan-
dinavian storehouse. Espedaee.
Alekander Jamte^on, M. A. (4*** S. vii. 142.) —
He had received an LL.D. degree, and was an
enthusiaatic mathematician and a clever man. He
was a map designer, and kept a school in London
for a limited number of pupils, and worked most
earnestly in hia vocation. Afterwards he had a
boarding school not far from St on House, Chia-
wick, and died about live or six years ago.
a a
He waa also the author of A TVeatm on the
Ctm^truction of Maps^ 8vo, Loudon, 1814. I
remember him ia 1832 as priucipal of a large
private school at Wvke Uouse, near Brentford,
tie waa then called Dr. Janiieson. I have lately
inquired in the neighbourhood what became of
him, but unsuccessfully. J. B. B,
WlFB OP G^ORGIB ^lEVTULIt, \jO«ft VkTRCKft.
(4*'» S. vii. 90, 198.)— iS^tmBi Q.w«cVfeAi , \ m^ \,
220
NOTES AND QUEBIES- [i^^^avii, ju«c«n,d
BeAticbamp (gu. between a fdsa or, three crofia
crosslets of the fiecond) ; 2 and 3, (Quarterly, 1 and
4, Lisle (ga, a lion rampant arg. crowned or) ;
2 and 3, Berkeley (gu» a clievron arg. between
eigbt croaeea pmtt^ ot* the second).
IIebmextbude,
'* The Hearts of Men which fo2^dlt," etc.
(4*** S. TiU 90.)— The lines inscribed on tlie cor-
nice of the gallery at Biirlmgton House are taken
from Spenser^a *' Hymn of Heavenly Beauty/*
Terse 3 1 —
** Votichsafc then, O Thou most Almightic Spright I
From whom all guifts of wit nncl knowledge flow.
To abed into mv brejwt some spnrkling light
Of thine et^mall truth, that 1 may shew
Some little leAmes to mortnll eyes heluw
Of that immurtal Ueautic', there with Theo
Which in my w«tke distrmightctl rain J I see,
•* That with the gloric of so gootlly sight
The hearts of men, which fondly hero ailmyrc
JPiire fleeming ftliewea, and f«ed on vaine delight i
Trantported with oele»lliill d»yre
Of those faire formos may lift'lhomselvea np hyi:r,
And learne to love» wiih ^ralou^ humble dcwty,
Th* EteniuU tVuntaiiie of ihat heavenly Beauty/^
The hymn is printed at length in Sekct PoHri/f
published by the I'arker Society, 1845, 2 vols.,
edited by Edward Farr, Esq^., and from whence
thb quotation is drawn, Dovrx,
''Phi-Beta-Kappa" Societt of Bostoit {4'^
5. iii. 108 ; Tii. m,)—
** I have for a long time hecn convinpod of the worae
than useiea* charaoier of this secret institution. . , .
That the Fhi- Beta- Kappa Society is a fts^^ret assoeiatioQ
ia well known to the public* f t ia a apeciea of Frco-
mft'ionrT, and bears a Rtromg afFmity to it. If the opinion
of Mr. Knnpp, in hi^ late ds^fence of Freemaaonry, be
correct, it is a branch of the Illurainati, that spurious
offjjpnn^ of the celebrated Weiahaapt. , ♦ . The *1». B» K.
Society t» of fi^rtign manufacture. . . . Wlicn and where
it originated I never was inforraeil, nor have 1 at present
any means of ascertaining. From its nature and forma
it ia presumed it must have commenced in eome of the
infidel schools of Europe in the seventeenth or eighteenth
centur>\ It was immrted into this country from Franca
in the year 1776, find, as it is said, by Thomas JaflersoUf
lat<-^ preaidont of the United States.' It was hrst e^^tab-
lishk'd at William anfl Mary's College in Virginia. Upon
the decline, aod,! believe, the cxtiuction. of that college,
duiiag the ravel utio nary war, a cfmrter, teGbnicallv called
an atpha, was obtained b,v tbi students of Yale College,
where it still flourishes. 'From thence it was imparted to
Harvard and Dartmouth ; and since that time, chflrters
have been granted tn the students of Union College in
N. Y. and to Bowduiu in JIaine, and verv receotlv, 1 un-
derstand, to Brown'a University in Providence, K, 1."^
The above ex tract ft are from a work by Avery
ABjUf published in Boston (U, S. A,) in 1831.
NEPHlilTK
I)BSOS2n>12?t8 OF ClTARLES BraKDON^ DuKK OF
SlTFFOLK (4»* a vL 415, 500.)— Since my former
communication on this point, I have found a
notice of the hmily of Mary Lady Monteagle,
daughter of Charles i?r«ndon. They were —
1. William Stanley, Lord Monteagle, marri
Anno, daughter of Sir James Lnjborne, and I
isaue Elizabeth, married Henry Lord Morley.
2. Elizabeth, married Sir Hichard yuangj
Somerset.
3. Margaret, married John Taylere of Lo&d
merchant
4. AnnOj married Sir John Clifton.
All the daughters left issue, (Harl. MS. 403|
fol, 420 Heemestbuii
Patkonvmig Prefix ''Mac" (4^^ B, \l 33(
To what I hare allirmed regarding the Gotl
oH^'in of thia word I am able to add another fjM
vi2. that in a Manka history by a writer of t^
name of Booth it ia mentiooed that among the foi
Danish prelates who 8 u exceeded to St, Rn
waa one '* Aumond Mac Olave^" in jl. d. 1077,
A Middle Templir.
Bows AND CuHTSETB (4*^ S. vi. 568 ; vii. 106.>
The lout (the charity-girl'^ ** bob") ia many <
turies old : the curtsey, I suspect, ciune '
France with Queen Henrietta Maria.
Be it remembered ihat mascullDe ourtseyfi w«l
in vogue long before femitaine ones.
HBRlTENTRFia. ]
"The Hob in the Well *' (i^^ S, viL 20L>
This sign {not ** Hole in tha Well'') is taken I
an old farce of that name. Several illustmtioQll
of It may he seen in the parlour of the '^Kff
Globe;- iClile End Koad. G, WB81WCE.J
Cambridge,
Samplers (4*'* S. vi. 600 ; vii. 21, 126,)— Since
your introduction of the subject of **SamplfPs"
m a late number of " N. & Q." I have madtf in-
quiries of several of mj aged relatives and friend*
on the matter, and have seen many specimeQ* o^
the art that was very prevalent at the commeoce*
ment of this century, and up to about 18^,aiiioft
which period I believe a more refined t««te h«i
existed, although i do not think one requiriDg* tli>
attentiou that is displayed in early samplers.
I have now one before me of an eLibnri^'^'
character; it contains eeveral alphabetical tp'
mens, and also a sample of the diMin^ui *' --itiQ
stitch/' This has no poo try on it, but the wirip'
tural text, *' Remember now thy Creator," 'Sc*,
and was worked by a lady in Edinburgh as eaflT
as the year 1800. Another, worked by my ^'osA
previoua to the year 1820^ ha3 the following liii**
thereon :—
** Prayer is the simplest form of speech
That infant lips can trj.
Praver, the sublime«t fttraias that reach
The Majesty on High."
Mjr third specimen contains the appropriatl
inquiry —
" Tell ma, je knowing and discerning few,
Where I'mmy tjnd a Friend both firm and trrn
. One who dare st^ind bv me when in deep distr
\ Kii4 VW-ft \Aft\w^ istoC (tietidf h i p mo?t ex J^^»»*'
4«i s. Tiu M4iio« II. 7L] NOTES A^'D QUEKIES.
221
It is to bo remarked, tlint in all thc«e eicfimplea
of tli^ ni inner adopted to iDstil into the riding
m the female populutiou of a post,
ra' ; the present Bge, habits of industry,
retinement, and rectitude, the teachers have in-
Tuiublv permitted their scholard to omit the year
in which the work was produced. Probably this
was the last ** g:rfttiticfttion " that was accorded to
lh« young ladi^ by their tutors — not to mentioQ
Other considerationjs that are a lady's privilege,
EoMUND Joy.
W,K«l«oaSqujife,S.E.
Tax Prot of <ii:iDo*3 AtrnoRA (4^" S. vii. L3,
113. > — I am obliged to liiBLiOTjiKCiit, CnETHiVM.
for his note to my query about the line a on the
^ate of "Guidos Aurora," in your issue of
Feb, 4- Would he further obliji^e me by in-
fonmng me who Alexander ^KtoJua was, and
when he lived?
But still the answer la not complete, BiBLl-
OTHICAR. Cqetham. eays: —
•* The d*!»cri{itioo is worthv of notice, inasmuch as it
cni (in* tnttttt/ of the cTfiresxton* in ibe verws aubjitinedi
>!? FuRKaa informed u» (I** S, iL 31*1), to
: Jo'§ celebrated Aurora.**
( the expressions.'* He does not say
I i»'S are the same as those on the piint;
«L the CMtitrary, the words rather imply, that
Ikm^h aioiilar, they are not the same. Can' he not
till tut where the lines which are actually on the
^him tx^H? It would be a gratification to me,
t ly to others, as is evidenced by his
nication. Did Mr, Dawsok Tukner,
1 the inscription, not notice aUo who
liter, or where the Unas are to be
S. R.
Wiluuloir,
^OrIGIK of the StTRNAME CtJNKIXGHAM (4'^ S,
\pkx%fim; if. 02, 179.) — The following extract
tht Kirk-Session records of Dundonuld,
, if it does not settle this vexed qaestion,
► rery significant: —
J Jane, 1607. ITauUia gifling vj>. Stein Wilsonn
1 lo baif schot w* una ho^bit yia day xt dxiyes
If] «i y« ccnmyngLs in corsbics* con}'ngaai la
8, it will he remembered, rejects the
j" ifaeoryy and points out that ciming is
rtiish := rabbit, and that cunuujhnm simply
I **the place where rabbits abound." It is
to fiid tbb opinion supported by the
I ocourence of the word here as a common
«. W. F. (,2.)
«>0D KAM Man," etc. fi"* S- vi. 345, 426,
ru 4K 162.)— Mr. J, P. Morris has cer-
r pai»ro!*d the most plausible reply which
< ap^itar^ in answer to my query respecting
^slbanktpof the above. But may I suggest,
• Tha LairU of Crosby's.
with all due deference to the authority he quot
there is a pn>bability John Oldland may not ha
been the mdhor of the lines, but have simply, **on
the spur of the moment/' made a hit in locali '
them by the addition of the concluding lines giT®
in Mr. Mobkis*s version P Have any of
readers met with the rhymes of John Oldland in
a collected form, as a reference to them would
doubtlessly throw light upon the matter F F* S,
Arms of tub Cou^'n* of Perche: Nuob
Familt (4^»' S. vi. ^-^^'y vii. 111.)— -Perhapa som&l
correspondent would oblige us with a copy of thft
foundation charter of the ** Abbey of Lonley "
(eleventh centurv), OrdericHS Vitaiu^ Dugdale,
and Palgrave, might then be consulted for anno-
tations. The pretension to represent the house of
Belesme, in any of its branches, is too important^
to be allowed to pass genealogical muster unex-
amined* Sp-
Babbaboub Massacre (4»* S. vi. 520^ vii. 101.)
'^Je ne cliercherai pas dana let relationi des anden^d
voyof^eurs les traces de la splenileur de Goa, je rdsistff"
mtinie nu Ms\T dt? tran«crire ici la dMcrlption d'un de cea
brillaiiU auto-da-fe jirepar^ et executtfs pi>ur extermlner
iej herdtiquea et edifis^r lea habiL*nd du cette villtt. 11
nie suffira de remarqnfir ici que le grand Albnquerqu
s'empftra de Goa le "Ih novembre 1510." — L* Laogl^
M<*numtna de Pliuh^ L 78. Paries, 1821,
The massacre, compared for sanguinary cruelty
to the slaughter of the Jews on different occa-
sions in Europe, for which two dates (a.d. 1409
and 1511) are given by Latitau, whose account
would appear to have been derived from Joad da
Bftrro3^4«iii, continued by Diego de Conto, seema
to resemble more in character the auto-da-f4 above
referred to than the indiscriminate one at the
taking and burning of Dabiil in January, 16O0,
The two affairs are described separately (i, 208j
and 310, Lalitau) as belonging- to different periods^ |
and cannot therefore be id en tided — a work whicli i
Mr. Charles Naylor had evidently not met
with when kindly replying to my query.
Slarcross, near Exeter*
SnaoPsiirRK SAYnf08(4** S. vii. t), 1*31,)— One
other of the wise sawa of our Salopian farmer,
who was given lo boast that he was *^ bom on the
top of Kttdley without a shirt," may be worth
preserving aa still applicable to the times in which
we live*
It was used by him to check extraTagance on
the part of any one of hia daughters who should
happen to give outward proof of a desire to
imitate the squire^a ladv in the matter of drees.
At such a time he would shako his head, elevate
a warning forefinger, and say with befitting s^J*^^"
nity, »* Ah 1 child, many a good horse dies of the
fashions." , „
This peculiar disease among }^OTa&&, it will Vse^
remembered, ia referred to m V&^ Tamxn^ oj IK^
232
NOTES AND QUERIES, [4^«' s. vii. maucu ii, 71.'
ShreWf where it u said that Potruchio'g steed,
amidst his infiny othc^r flfllictions, is ** infected
with the fftshion?." Elsewhere I bare found the
complaint dedcribed aa a kind of lepra^^y.
Wii, Undeebxll.
13, Kell^ Street, Kentish Town.
Hair growing after Death (4*^ S. vi. 624 j
viL G6f 83, WO,) — In the sixth yokmio of Not*'
folk Archcotdoffif is an interesting account of the
discoTery of three etono cotlina containing skolo-
tona in the beautifully restored church of Drnjton
near this citr. In on<3 the akeletou lay enclosed
in a case of load, which had entirely enwrapped
the corpse and taken tho form of the inhumed
person. Amongst other particulars respecting it,
it 13 stated that ^* on the posterior part of the sknll
was a conaiderable q^uaotity of httir closely matted
together/* and in a toot-note the writer says : —
"^Tha i^owth of hair after death [a aoniethin^ ex-
traordinary, nnd presuming tho corpse to be of the date
circa X3C0, exAiTiplcs ar<j not wantjri|j to provo the pre-
servatioQ of human hair from that period to the pre-
9cut in prof use iiess and even bcAuty. Some few yeari
fiince a square box or coffid (xiutaiding a skdetou w&a
fonndin tho Lady Chapel of Hereford Ctithtdral. The
body had IxS'cri enveloped in » sbt'ct of woollen fabric.
The hair wa.i perfect and in the form of a wig^ the bones
of thu Bknll having fallen away from ir. The colour wns
a yellow red, and so profuse in qnatitity as certainly to
have grown considerably after death," — Arch^ifo^in,
ToL xxxiii.
"Such i^rowth is frequently attested *, but an cxlraor-
diaarv aneedoto on tho Barnes abject ia worth ootice here,
if oiuy for the singiilarUy of the atatement, Douj^lae
say a that Juhu Pitt assured him that on visiting, a vault
of his ancestors in Furlov Chapel, Somersetshire, he saw
the hair of the young Lady Chandos, which had Ui a
moet extraordinary manner grown out of tho coUin, and
huftfj doum Jhun it ; while by the inscription it appeared
she had Lc«n buried at least, be says, considerably more
than a hundred Vfars."
For my part I do not helieTe that hnir can
possibly grow after death. X have not succeeded
in finding a well-marked iustMice on recordj such
AU one indeed aa would place the matter boyond
dispute, and in no physiological work can I meet
with any allumoii to this cLrcumstaDO^.
Charles Williams.
I^orwich,
to
WtTLrnRiTKA (4^*» S- vii. 13, 132.)— Appended
» ErdoswJcke*a tStafordahirej printed iu 1723, ia
'J Some Account of Wolverhampton/' by 8ir Wil-
liam Dugdale. Therein ho writes —
" In tliis great parish, Kbg Edgar, ahont the rear *>;0
<anno nsgni xi.)t at the re<jueat of his dvinff sister, Wul-
phruiio (aj 'tia said), from whom 'tis called Wulphnme*
Hampton, founded a chapel of eight portionarieV &c*
Erdeswicke'a text, in all union to the name of
the town, says, "bo cnlled because one Wul-
phrnna was Lady thereof nhont the time that
■^sg Edgar was Kmgoi^ England."
Seelog- th&t King Mdg&r deceased (fiv© yeai^
after Wulphruna is stated to hare been dyi
** A.i>, 075, anno regni 10^ setat. 3:1/' that he o'
his throne to the ini!ueuce of the monka^
counsels almost entirely guided the actioiii
reign, while Ethelred II. during his whole
was engaged iu coa^tant warfare with the ]
who finally drove him from his kingdom, I
the precise terms of Dugda}e*8 statement
some weight (they were my authority, mdt 4**
vl. />36) ] and IIermextrudb, there can be little
doubt, is right in her inference of WulphruDa*s
parentage. ^,E.E
EODKRT FlTZDARKBtS OR HaRVEIS f4«* S,
414, ai7.)"The answer of S, IL A. H. faiU ^
throw light on the ancestry of Hobert Fitz-HerreUL
That such a person existed there can be no doobti
but whether he was ©on of the Duke of OrleiM
13 questionable, Wace, in his Jiomnn <le Smtf
tells ua that he was the ** aon of Emeia by
Ilavrise or Ilaekwise, and nephew of Raonl do
Tesson." The conjecture of Lord Arthur Bemj
is open to the objection that the name of "Eruiii
due d'Orlcans '^ occurs in several lists of mililw
(vide Foxe^s JloUf Chron. Norman^ Stow, &k\];
besides it ia hardly probable that the title w»3
added (aa conjectured hy Lord Hervey) to a per-
son of the name of Emms in the eleventh centu^
by any one familiar with the story of an Ern^s,*:iQ
of Sampson, Duke of Orleans, in the ninth wfi-
tury. After this Enies (a>d. S15) the next Count
or Duke of f Irleana ia Odo or Eudes, wht>$e daugh-
ter Ermentrude married Charles the Ihdd in^
(vide Voltxiire and Limier) ; and next ti him
** Eudes Count of Paris and Orleans "
who was elected King of France inS>"
this period the duchy of Orleans appears h^ ii ^^ -
belonged to the House of Capet About U^'i^
Count Eudes, brother of Hemry L of France, de-
mand od a part of hia father's dominions, bit
possible that this Eudes received the durliv of
Orleans, or thatOrieanois formed part of the di^y
of Burgundy (aa it did in 562), and that liol
Fit^-Hemeis was a son of the Bisliop of Aaxi
or of a Duke of Biurguudv ? In HtM, AVu
Scri/Tt. Antiq. I tiud at p. 1031 « Rob. fil. Eniei
p. 1046 " Eudo fil Erneis, Erneisde Buroni *' '
p. 1044 " Ilenif is,^' p. 1035" Comes Ilerui
*' llereuB de Vtmo,'* p, 1142 "Herueus d«
p. 1030 *' Ilerueus de Lion/* &c, &c, Ata
of the same or of different families ?
Now Mr. Collins says that Robert Fit^-Hi
bad several sons, but from the Domesday
we are left to conjecture whether any or all
the Herueus therein mentioned are in Any %
relattMl to him. It is certain ** Rob. fib Eruei
is not mentioned in tho Survei/, vet it U positiri
asserted that '* Robert, son of llervey, who g*'
lands to the Abbot of Abintrdon which Henry.
\ co'ti^iimft^,^' ^^ «h aon of Robert Fiti-HerfsR
^1
4«^ s, viL MARcn II. 71.] KOTES AND QUERIES.
223
Dulce of Orleans, Ilere the chain is Iroken, and
from Jlenrj, or Ilerveua fil. Hervei, the Ilerveys,
Batlers, and Cliburnes claim dti5M?L'nt. If Dou-
jnoulia gives the anus of Robert Fitz-IIen'ey, or
of the olLer Emeiii or Ilerveisj addidoDal light
mAj be thrown on thia subject, Nxmrod,
Fedioees of Mortimer^ (4^"* 8. vii. 12.)^
Before it C4m be discovered how the Ladj Mftu-
ritia wa» related to Leonor the Faithful, we must
■ficertain her fathers name with rather more cer-
tiiatir. Different writers call him Sir William d«
Fenolle?, de Fandles, de Fiudloes, and ait d dry
other Tonatioad. Now none of them sound par-
licularlj Spanish, and it is just possible that the
Tclationship may have como through the queen's
French mother, Jeaone Counteas of Aumale and
Fontfaieu. Btr mother was Alice of France j tho
Jdnship (if ia this direction at all) muit be sought
cm the father s side, liER3iE?iTRi de.
Tms Strasrcrg Library (4^** S, Tii, 120,)—
In the interests of literature one rejoices to learn
that efforts are being* made to give S trash urg once
more a library wortliy of the town; but is it not
worth inquiring how or by whose default iU late
iiimoua collection has utterly perished? Few
perhaps who have not seen b:>olL8 in or after b
Bre kiow how rarely what newspapers call the
** devouring element" effects the complete de-
Itrection of such a mass of the m^ but to those
who do, it must seem almost incredible tlmt a
great deal of valuable salvage did not remain.
Supposing, however, that tho ravages of fiie
TCTe as destructive as they have been represented,
▼bat claim has a town or corporation to a new
Bbraiy when it took do painis to preserve the old
ciie? Was it nobody's husinesa because every-
Wy*8 to place such tretisures as the Gutenberg
MS. or the Uortus Deliciarum in a place of safety
eren at the yeiy commencement of the fciege ?
G. M, G.
BarjAMiN Carrier (4**' S. viu 07, 130, 150.)
few additional particulars of the life of Dr»
-_ may not be unacceptable. lie was chap-
*iii and preacher at the court of King James L,
•od always inclined to pacific measures in matters
jfrelkion. In his letters he appears to insinuate
™t James was disposed to attempt a cotilition
J^jPea the Catholic and Anglican churches, Dr.
v*tti<*r, however, convinced that such a pcheme
Jj« impracticable, resolved to embrace the Catholic
^^^ Be obtained leave of the king to go to
*y^ oa account of his health, where his conver-
*00wa ' ' d. James ordered Casaubon and
'^Ws ' him, and send him a peremptory
'Stfcrti reiuri' 1 » Eu gland, having a strong sua-
P^Qftii of the doctor's intention. When his con*
tftsirio bpcame known, the king hij^hly resented
bad indeed so great a regard for Dr. Car-
-at he was believed to have been tire coa-
■I few
■Cttiie
fidant of his mnjeaty's private sentiments eta to
religion. Carrier received mnny letters congratu-
lating him on his conversion, from Home, Fans,
and several other places, At the invitation of the
Cardinal I>u Perron he went to Paris, and died
there in June 1014. His works are — Sermons
preached while he was a Protestant ; A Mi»m^
to his Maje&tif of Great Britain j cnntaining the
motives of (his conversion {Liege, 1014), and A
Ldler of the mi^rable Ends of such aji impugn (he
Catholic Faithf published in 1615 after his death.
See I>odd's Church Uistortf^ vol. ii., who wrote
his account from several original letters in his
keeping from Carrier, Casaubon. Dii Perron, &c.
F. a H.
Post PRornEcres {4^'» S. vi* 370, 396» 4S8 ; vii.
42, 151.) — A, 11,' s Jeu de mots y^aa rcchanjfi^ in
Paris in September 1806 thus : —
*' L7tfllio est fttito
Et Rome coiitrefaKe,
L'Autriche esi dt^faitc
Et r.^JIemagnc rcfnitc,
La Prusse est surfultc^
La Franco est parfatte*
£t rAngletarni mlisfaltc.*'
W. T. U,
DEirAHTUs OP Drusus, Seji. (?) (4**^ S. vii. 05,
148;)— This piece is not a coin of Drusua, Sen.^
but of the Emperor Nero when a young man, Tho
obverse lej^end is "nero clatd. caes. drvsvs
GERM. PKiNc. ivvEKT." YouDg bust, bare J and
the reverse, '* sacerb. coopx. in omn. oonl. svpra
uvii. ex B.C.,** which interpreted reads "Sacerdos
cooptntus in omni conlegio supra numerum ex
senatiisconsuU'O.*' Type — simpulurn, tripod, lituus,
and patera. The coin will he found in Eckhel, who
gives explanatory notes, and in Cohen,
F, W. M.
Mental E<iUALiTT op the Sexes (4*^ S. vii,
97.) — Nearly twenty years ago a ''calculating
girl '^ appeared in Ayrshire, in tho neighbourhood
of Kilmamoclf, Accounts of her wondertul feattf ]
appeared in the Glasgow papers and attracted j
notice. Some persons (among whom was, I tMak| |
a member of the Ilastinga family) interested them-
selves in lier, and she was sent to Edinburgh to
be educated, where she attended the school of
my liite friend Mr. Peter Currio, George Street.
Akhoufrh, I dare say, I must have seen the girl in
his school, he never exhibited any of her feats to
Die J but he often spoke of them, and many per-
sonSj including ladies of title, in si ted the school
for the purpose of witnessing her wonderful powers.
It would be quite unsafe forme to attempt to give
any detailed account of these, hut I remember that
Mr* Currie used to speak of the marvellous ra-
pidity and accuracy with which she multiplied a
long row of figures by a multiplier some four or
five deep without using pen or pencil, Iia^&kfi>
no question hut t\iRt mw^y ol ^^t w^q^:M^q^%,
224
NOTES AKD QUERIES. l^^ S. VIL March li/7l
inclndinf:: Mr. Curriers ovrii children, would be
ablo to furnish further pnrticiilars, as well m th^
girls name. She was io attendance at the echool
about sixteen years ago. J. IL
I can attest to the poasossion of this remarkable
gift by A highly intelligent young lady. At ei^ht
yeara of a^e she would answer the most diiticult
qneations m mentfil arithmetic with only a few
tninutefl* conaiderntion — ^queations, be it under-
Blood, that poBed older and more learned persons.
M. C. Lt.
" He that DTJYd Lakd," etc. (4*" S. Tii. 90.)
Either W. E. 'A. jVxo.Vs **old friend'* or the
schoolmaster '' nRmed Byroiu" were evidently
acquainted with the old drinking song which ha^
been reprinted by Mr, Wright from an ancient
manuscript in his posaeafiton ; —
** Bring tu in good ale, and htiag us In ^oml ale.
For our blessed Lady 'a sake, brifi^,' us in good akv
Erini; ns in nii brown bneail, for Ihat is marlt^ of liran j
Kar bring ui in no ivhlte brcnd, for that h only grnjo ;
But brinf tia In gcKKl ale.
Bring \t» in no beef, for there are mnny bone.%
Hut bring us in good ale, for that ji^ws down at nnce.
Th^n bring ua in good ale.
Bring as in no bncon, for that i<* pasafog fat ;
But bring U3 in good ale, am] pve na cnouj^h of that.
So bring us in gocKl ak.
Bring 09 in no mutton, for that Is ofl^n lean ;
Not bring us in no trtpe^t, for they bo sddom cknn,
Uut bring us in irood ale.
Brinff us in uo c^i^?, for there be many ishells ;
Hut bring U3 in goad ale, and gire us nothing ulse.
Theu bring us ju good ale.**
R.R.
Boston.
Medieval Babjiq (4^*" S« viL 95.)— In forming
A wooden house the uprights at the ends would
be best made of a tree of which one nf the brandies
wag cut oir at the fork of the Y, and the roof
tree attached by peps and cords. The remaining
branch sloped oulwartlei, nnd was richly carved, as
we see in engravings i-epresenting Norwegian and
Icelandic ball!*.
On tho attack on Gunnar of Lithsnd (N/als
Saffa, I 244) :—
** Some r(»pe3 lay thero on the ground, and Iht-y were
oflen tj«?d to strenL^then thu roof. J tjcn Mord said, 'Let us
take tho ropes and throw one eml ovi?r the end of tlie
carr^'iDg bemnti, but hi us fa-*lcn thtj othtr end tn thi-so
rocks and twist them light wilb levirf, and so pull the
loofoir the ball.'
**go they took the ropes and all lent a bond to carrj*
this out, an[l before Gunnar was aware of it, they had
pulled the wholu roof utt tho hall, '
A fininl, then, was not on ornament, but ** orna-
mented construction/* W. G.
I cannot agree wirh the statement that the
leaning fwiols alluded to are ugly. It aeems to
OJ0 but pleming TRrieiy^ and on this account no
doubt they were made. NospecinlM
be attributed to them. The one at 1
is in conjunction with a straight or uiri^bi ua
The two beat ecclesiastical barns in Englnud^ thai
at Pi 1 ton and Glaatonbury, have upright tiniala,]
P. R Mass *
Yese: Feese: Feaze(4'*' S. vi. 1J>5, 421,^5
viL 109.) — As no reply has yet appeared to "
Addis's query regarding the word feasx^ I 1
to sav that it is in constant use in Fife, and
invariably applied to express the fretting awny
the hem of a garment, or the edge of a piece of
cloth, by the separation of the woof from
warp. It is so explained by Jamieeon in his *5
iish Did WHO ty. It also signifies ** the raveliii
out of any rope or cable at the ends/^ as gtat^d '
Bailey, This meaning makes clear the quotati(
given by Mr. Abdis, which the sense of ** driw
away** does not do. I cannot detect in P»ckB^
ing's edition the line in Chaucer referred to, nod
therefore I am unable to say whether the fenw
above given explains the passage ; but in rf^gard
to the quotation from Fuller—** Binhop Turbt»rril
recovered some lost land^^ which Bisnop Vovsey
bad vezed '* — the gloss by Fuller of **drivcuawAjr''
IB decidedly wrong. Lands cannot be drivtto
away, but they may he fretted away by encroicb-
raents or petty sales. It was such lands^ beyond i
doubt, that Bishop Turbervil recovered, Theiftitte
sense explains the verse quoted : —
** be XI. dai fare windis sal rise
[>e reinhovT huii sal f&l
Jtat al \>e featin sal y agrts
and be i/eud into hclle/'
A ferdj in manufacturing phraseology, meani^ »
small piece left of a web ; the fetdt* of the reiii-
bfjtP are the fragments of the bJow after the doufl
becomes broken, and they were if end f fretted away
into kelle, dnrkneaa, or concealment. Perhaps tlws
connection between fretted away and whipped or
beaten is to be found in the fact that the araiW*
brought into the field at that period were I^tim
for the immediate occasion, at the call of lli<^
feudal superior, and on a defeat they enibr»cta
the opportunity of returning to their homw; ^
f&ct,jfeazcd away, which from this circumi?tftnoe
came to signify being defeated or beaten, A. I*
TiTLERS OP Sugar {4*'' S. vL 500 ; vii. 110.)-
F. CML says that a titter weighs about ten pound*
1 have 1 Hi fore me the bill of a large London gfOO'J
in which occurs the item *' 1 Tiller Suirar .3o4 Ib^*
HAW,
« Science " a^vd '* Art" (4^ S. vii. 89.)-Tb«
confusion of use of these words was very well
cleared some years ago by a writer in Chamheff^
Jounmh He said ** science *' had exclusive ff^*^
ence to the workfi of God ; *^ art " exclusive t^^^^'
ence to the works of man. The line thus Atr^
\ \b '^tc^M^j^i w^ ^'Evcid as any that can be drawa. ** -
i- & vii. MiRCB lu 71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
225
X II
■Kpnse
RInert
Is certainly time Bome rule was laid down, for no
two words in the language are more u^d wrong-
msiy. W. H.
Cnpar-Fife.
TuoM.^oN A Drijid (4*'' S. tU* 970 — ^ believe
t Collins here uses the word " Druid " in the
of Britirih bard, or national poet. Without
ning the peculiar propriety of this epithet aa
applied to Tnomaoa, 1 submit that this is the
Ti^ual raeauiog of the word in poetry* which natu-
mlly disrt'garda the sacerdotal and other sides of
the Druid's life, except that of bard* Compare In
tli6 aatne poet^s ode to Liberty : —
** The chiefs viho dU our Albion*a story
Hear their conswrtcd Dmids sing
Their triumphs to th' immortal string***
Alao Cowper's conception of a Druid in his " Boa-
dicea,** J. IL J. Oakley.
Croydon,
Ib not Si!BPHES^ Jackson *8 <juery answered by
the la^t Terse of the dirge itaelf ? —
" Long* long thy atone and pointed d&y
Shall melt the muiiifi^ Britorrs eyes:
O! vateM and wild woodt^ shall hi> ^3%
In yonder grave your Druid lies."
Collinf, I thiuk, considered him (Thomson) as
Nature's high prieatand poet ; delighting, like the
Druid page, in leafy solitudes and in the silent
but eloquent language of hills and rales and founts
And babbling streams. J, A* D.
Cariabrooke.
Fk4»t of THfi Natititt (of oxtr Lort>) (4*** S,
142.) — That there was among the Orientala a
_^ t diversity in celebrating the day on which
our divine Redeemer was born, is evident from
the early Fathers. St. Clement of Alexandria,
who died i^ery early in the third century, ob-
KTf ee that there were aorae who were not only
carious to as^iiigii the year, bnt even the dfty of our
Lord's nativity, which they said was in the
tweoty-iighth year of Augustus, and on the StOth
of the mo ith Pachon (the Egyptian month be-
ginning on the iiOth of April).
«^ fidtrxitf rh (rQs^ dUX^ isal ri)v fifiipav rpoffriStvrts * !)»'
^A<rtp frovj #rV AvyotfirroUf h w/^irrp n^x*»'*' '^^ fXttaJ&t.
lie goes on to state the practice of the followers
of Ba^ilid^s in celebrating the time$ of our Sa-
Ti -' < ptiain and of his passion; and adds that
» I 'm alfto said that he was born on the
*^ ^ah of PharmuLhi (which began on our
27th of March).
Na) ^V Tti'fi atitutif ^a/Tt ^apfiovOi yty ^i^yriirdap a'^',
l» aV,
S. Clem. Alex., Stromat.^ lib, i.poti med,
Caa»ian testifies that the more common practice
oC the churches of Egypt was to keep the nativity
of our Lord on the *6th of January. (CaasiaJ.
■freal
CoUai. X. cap. ii.) The same U stated of the
churches of Cyprus, Antioch, and other Oriental
churches, by St. Epiphanius (KrpofuL Fidei\ xxii.) :
and St. John Chrysostom (IJom* xxi. de Natali
Chn'sti) informs his hearers that the Eastern
churches towards the end of the fourth century,
bein^? taught better by those of the West, fixed
the day on the 25th of December.
'* Hie dies, quum ab exordio il% qui in Occidento ha-
bitant, cognitus fuerit; nunc ad nm demura non ante
malto!) annos transmiasos ita iacrevit,'* &c,
Z. Z. further inquires at what time the festival
of Christmas assumed the character of saturnalia.
Probably very soon, fwm the proneness of men to
turn the most sacred festivals into seasons of pro-
fane joy and worldly festivity. Thus we find the
emperor Theodosiua the younger, in the early part
of the fifth century, severely prohibiting games
nnd public spectacles on the nativity of our Lord,
the same as on Sundays. {Cad, Thcodos,^ lib. xv.
tit. 5, de Spedaadts.) F. C, H,
•'ElKnN BA21AIKH' (4^ S, viL 0.)— After the
curiou3 and valuable piece of evidence communi-
cated by Mb. SLEron as to the authorship of this
celebrated book, the opinions of so capable a
critic as Southey may bo read Tvith some in-
terest : —
" Among other booka I have been reading the Efftwii
BatnktK-fjj which never fell in nay way before. The ovi-
tlenee concerning iU atithenlidty b more curiously
balanced than in any other case, except pcrhnps thnt of
the two Alexander Cunninghama ; but the intcmul evi-
denci; h strongly in Jt,H favour^ and I very much doubt
whether any man could have written it in a fi^.tilioua^
charoctor, tho charrtoter ia bo perfectly obaerved. If it
ba genuine (which I believe it to be as much as a man
can believe the authenticity of onythioij which haa been
boldly iii].|iUirnei|) it is one of the moat intereatLng books
connected with English imton'/* — Life nnd Letiertj
V. 81.
Again :—
" Wurdswortfii the Alaster of Trinity^ has juat pub-
lishf'd a volume concerning the Efitw*/ BcunhiKht a ques-
tion ui no Iridhi^ importance, both to our political and
literary hbtory. As far aa minute and accamulativo
evidence can amount to proof, he has proved it to bo
genuine. For myself, I have never, since I read the Itook,
thousbt that any tinprcjudicetl person could <rntertairi a
doobt conceniin'jj it. 1 am the more pr.i tilled that this
full and vaLisiifactory investigation has been made, because
it grew out of a conversation between the two Words-
wort h« and myself at Eydal a year or two ago.'*— /6* 199.
To this may be added the testimony of South,
which I happen to have just come across : —
", , , . Let hb own writings serve for a Witney*?, which
speak him 00 less an author than a monarchy composed
with iiucti an unfailing accuracy, such a commanding
mfljt;vHtiik pnthnx^ A4 if they had been written not with a
pen but with a sceptre: atid aa for those whoae virulent
and ridicuhrus calumntCi; ascribe that incomptrnble work
til olhcr-i, 'tis a sufficient argument that those did not*
becauf^ thev could not write it, *'Th hard to countcrfdt
the spirit of majcstv, and the inimitable peculiarities of
NOTES AND QUERIES. [-i^s-vu. MAroniLTL^
An incomnitinicable genius," — ^A Sermon pruaf'iUM on tho
sxx^^ of Janunrv. (^PosthunutH^ Workn of the /ate Mev,
Ii<tbcrt South, D\D,, «vo, London, 1717, p. 153.)
A\'iTXiAM Bates,
Birmiogh^m.
Tee vStrai^ht Gate jlnu Nabro-vv Wat (4^**
S. vii O.'V)— In reference to t!ie " Broad Rnd
Narrow Way/' the following extrtict from Win-
wood licftde'a Savfujc Africa (p, 559} may Le
thought interesting : —
*' Tho I bo nes;Tf>e3 describe tbe soul of man as poiucsitrnj^
tbe Mmo subtle nuturc oa bb *hiidow. They my ibat
each »oui Ls accompanied upon the way to iU nppomted
plooQ by two $|jirit3 — u gooii nod an evil one. It has to
MM ovcf ft dniij^^^roua wnll^ by which tho road is dividccU
The good spirit helps tbe soul Imppily; the evil ooo
koockfl hia head ogflinit it. After thn tvVo rcnd^ appear,
one h nJirroir and the other broad. Dy the narrow road
tbe good soul is led by its jL^uardiafi geniaa to trod the
merdfal and supreme; by the broad road the ivickefl
floul Id led by iU demon to a place ivhiob is alHrays dark.'*
Surely this must be the reniaiiis of Chriatlan
teaching. Cliffoe© W* Towse.
St, John's Coli, Camb.
Th© parage from Kebes quoted by the Rev.
Mr. Tew is quoted % tho late Bean Alford, in
hk Grefk Teatament on St. Matt, vii. 14.
W. A. B. O.
Tbo parallel pftasagea from Jfatthew vii. 14
and Cebea (Tabula) would certainly furniah cu-
rious matt<^r of ctinipariaon if the latter bad been
written four hundred years before the former, aa
Mb. Tew aasumes. But the truth is, that the
genuineness of the Tabula of Cebes haa been, to
Bav the least of it, seriously disputed. Some as-
cribe it to another Cebes, who lived under Marcus
Aurelius; some, ^ho believe it to bo partJLy au-
thentic, suspect it of having been much *' cooked'*
by restorers, as indeed ia in eome places indis-
putable. The inference ia verj atron^^ that the
later Stoic who composed this interesting parable
borrowed from Scripture. Jean le Trouvbue*
MoRB FAMn.T (41" S. ii. 365, 422, 449; iii.
26Gj iv. 01, 82, 104, 147.)— I have been hopitig
that Mr, Alois Wright^ or eorae other gentle-
tnan, would have givea me a solution of the in-
quiry I sought as to the armorial bearings civeA
to the chancellor'a family in the MS. collection of
Bonum Catholic families I alluded to, viz., ** Or,
a torteau chargi^d with a moorcock ar. and two
lions passant guardant in pale gu. between m
many flaunches ar, each charged with a fleiir-de-
lia si;*
Although in the MS. the pedigree is given at
length, no allusion is made to the other bearinga
of the famiiv, yet 1 cannot find any record of the
{amUy ever having borne the arms stated in the
MS, I C4m only suppose my theory to be the
most probable one, i, e., that these arms were
granted hf the exiled Stuart MngB to Ba^l More,
wita went into ejdle with them at St, Getmam-,
and thnt the MS. beincf exclusively of Romwi
Catholic families who adhered to the fallen dy-
nasty, would not recognise tbe coat ratified by the
heralds of the heretic monarchal, more than it dotA
those members of this same family who *' dege-
nerated from the religion of their ancedtors,'' aod
became '* lost " in the estimation of th© direct
branchy aud struck out altogether from the gefM»
alogical tree.
1 have never been able entirely to discard the
pedigree ascribed to Sir Thomas More in tJiAt
curious book by Thomas de Escallers de la More,
Barrister of GrRy's Inn, published in London ia
1049, where he makes him descend from —
** Laurcntiua de la More, qui erat in exerdta WiUidmi
Bastard i Jli-gw in Conquestu a no Rcgni AnglL-e, and Sir
Thomas de la More, Knfgbt, who was a courtier in tb»
reigns of Edward the Finjt, Second, and Third, and wast
servant (and wrote tbe life) of King Edward the Seowd."
I do not see why this is not as likely io be
conect as tbe tradition which Cresacre Moremeu-
tions, as ** having heard*' that (his family) ^'eitber
came out of the Mores of Ireland, or they am»
out of us" ; for, as he says, ** Although by reaMU
of King Henry's seizure of all our evidences, w«
cannot certainly tell who were Sir John*s aucea-
tors, yet must they needs be gentlemen." Thai
they did not come out of the Mores of Ireland k
clear, aa the families he alludes to did not settle
in Ireland till after the chanceUor*s death, and in
the other case, which is not improbable, it would
in no way militate against the pedigree abota
stated, whether the writer was, as he caSs himseir,
a grandson, or any more remote descendant of
the illiistrious chancellor. Will Mb. Wrwhtoc
some of the gentlemen who have turned ihdt
thoughts to the history of this great niflu, lend
me their assistance in unriddling the mysterj
attached to his ancestry ? C. T. J. MooEX*
Frompton llallr near Bo»ton«
Lhigh TIcint's " The Months,** etc. (4^ S.
vL 108, 245.) — The most observing writers liiT«
often made most serious mistakes as regards tbe
proper time of the annual or exact appearance of
certain flowers, serving their purpose in a poeo
or work of fiction* Not all are so careful as Goethe
who, in his Sorrows of Wertetj gives almost tht
exact day of —
"... the Lime, the odorous lime.
With taaselfl of gold and leavea so green,** *
being in Its full beauty at dear little WakOmi»*
I remember (hut cannot lay bauds on the vobuw
in question) Sir John Barrow in his Autol>iopT^
speaking of a mountain-ash (Sorbus auatpttrutfU)
in bis native home being covered with its hmi'
some shining scarlet berries in the month of /<*»'*
And in Scotland, too, where this could never tik*
place before the end of August, Of modern B^
I
*•■ i^. Vii. iklAiirii ii, 7L]
NOTES AlfD QUERIES.
227
li^^ of poetry and fiction, ladiea as a rule
|i'i attention to thia kind of thing than
til ^t*x " (with the exception of the all-
€>} A'ordsworth of course) j and of the
fi> 0 Eliot" (I am just thinking of
li' of the hedgerows in Adam Bede)
»eem^ i'> m ' the moat acute. The remarks of
the graceful Caroline Bowles will verify my own
remikrk. Hebmai^n ICin^dt.
Asff»Tm5RR8 ofFxtrkess (4* S. xL 411, 582;
Tli. 131.) — W'itli respect to query 5, p. 413, last
volume^ ft correspondent of the Ulverston Adcer-
' has eupplied the following : —
"Thtt Rev. \V. Ashbomer was the eon of Geo, Ashbur-
r -'^' c "'"^^ Low Fumess, and was baptised at Aiding*
on the 5th of Januarj', 1763; his father.
ii iier(*onof JohnAshburnerof Aldioghani),,wafl
h«pii»i:d at the same church on Jane 13th, 173L Furtlu^r
TCKarch at Aldingham church and Dalton church would,
so doubt, brini^r further particulars respecting other mem-
ben of the family of A*h burners to light."
The writer of this believes himself to be de-
scended from the William and Thomas Ashbumer
rf iJublin mentioned by the correspondent of
*" N\ .t Q/' in the article published about Novem-
ber L\5t, and would be glad to communicate with
the said correepoodent^ under cover of address,
^J. U. R,, Advertiser OfEce, Ulveraton, North
Uacashire." J, R R.
I fegret I bare not bad time to thank your
ttmrteooa correspondents earlier for the ioforma-
Urn th^ have already kindly given me* I be-
i^^ty of the advowson of Urawick at one
M?d to the family. Of course it would
I -Testing t'O trace the forefathers of the
I Ash burners as far back as possible.
' here is no certain place at present in
'H for them, some further infonnation
>ubt fix the particular branch to which
j. It is highly probable that the Rev,
-., . .burner's line ivas olwava regarded by
lie pAddr )ck Hall Adbbumers as being their nenv
kLumtn, and I think it will be found that they
«Ofc from Francis of Frith in Cartmell, the
teith«r of Thomas of Paddock Hall, temp^Q^T. U.
T, IlELSBr,
NOTES 01^ BOOKS, ETC.
Teltt nf Old Japan, B^ A. B. Mitfofd* Second Secre-
Hrr of iho British Legation in Japan. In Tu*o Votumu,
» fUuftratioHS drawn and cui on fFvod htf Japanae
Aruat, (SlacioUIan.)
Ikdkiiiff and cfaaracterietic aa are the tnuntrationB of
^Wtk uefore qa, which^ designed by a Japanese artiAt,
fclW U^m cut on wood by a famous wood-engraver at
Ti4r f>t one whit more so than are the in-
***ni; ; lies from the Land of Sunriao which
* -" ""-tnt. The vciy first itory in
v^aewn lionins," exhibits n
j^ijirt of bis retainers towards
. feudal krd^OQd Le it remembered that the story
is a true one— which it would be hard to paralleL While*^
if the heroism and vengeance have in thorn aomethingi
barbariCt tbe conduct of the actor* in the fearful trag^edy 1
e:xhibit» a desire to *?pare the inn«3cent oivl protect front 1
injury the iiei{j;hbourauf their victim, which h citsentinUyJ
chivalrous in its nature. Ami when we tind, as we do]
fit>m Mr. Mitfonly that the old civilization of Japan i|i I
fast disappearing before the new ideas which the inter*!
course of the last eleven years with the western races haftl
introduced into the country', we fe«l that that gentleman
has rendered good service by these translations of a
aelection of the most interesting national legends and
traditions. Iii these tales, with the exception of the
Emf>eror and bin Court — respect lag whom Mr MitfordJ
could tind no tulcs in which they plaved a conspicuonai
part, and the exception is a remark able one— every cliisM
in JapiiUf the lord and his retainer, the wnrrior and thai
priest, the bumble artiisan and despised Eta or pariahi]
i ail tell their own tales, and describe themselves in a wajl
I which brings their social condition and course of life far]
more vividly before the reader than cotild be obtained
' perhaps in Any ot}jer mode : while the backgrounds of
j the pictures are filled np with incidental allusioiis la
I manneis and customsi the arrangements of the household*
{ the forms of worship, the divisions of the day, (he natural
, history of the country, and iuDumcrable little touchof j
illustrative of Japanese life and manners — which give M
coniplett?nes* to the work, and make it what wo belie va I
it to be, by far the most striking, instructive, and authen-
tic book upon Japan and the Japanese which has ever
been laid before the English reader.
Diary of the Emhauyfrom King Gtorge of Bohemia to
King Louis A'/, of France, ^om a contemporary
Mantttcriptf literaltg trandaitd from the original S/a-
vonic, Bjf A, H. Wnitislaw, M,A., &c. (Bell &
DaJdy.)
George of Bohemia, regarded as the wiseat statesmsn
of his day in Europe, having,' declined to reader obedience
to the Papal See in oertflin matters, endeavoured to bring
about a cotincil of crown e^l heads with the view of al*
laying the confu^sion existing In Europe, and of restraining
and regulating the encroaching spirit of the Roman
Curifl^ For this purpose he despatched an embassy to
Louis XL of France;, and ihis little book is a Diary of
such embfissy, and a very curious Diary it is. It would
indeed have been more so, but that the jealousy of the
Austrian censorship cut out many passages from the
transcript j and something of a kindr^ feeling seems to
bave led to the abatraction of the original MS. from the
archives of Budweia in Uohemla, where it was formerly
preserved, but where it is no longer to be found* Still the
book presents many curious pictures of social life, and
half an hour may be spent very pleasantly in its perusal.
Books bkceivep. — Trantactiona of the Historicai So-
ciitlg of Gnat Britain^ Vol. /., Pari I, (Printed for the
Society), contains several interesting papers, among
which' we would notice that by Mr, Bond *'On the Chris-
tian Era,"*— Sir John Bowriiig's Latin Ajjhorijtms awl
JProverbtj verstfed by Shakespeare ; and Dr. Roger's ATc-
inoiV and Poems of Sir Robert Ajftoun.^Tl^e fUrald and
Geneatogist, Itv John Gough Nichnln, F,S,A., Port
XXXI L (Nichols), contains, among other papers of great
value and interest, one on *' Royal Descents of Peer?/' by
the late Lord Farnham, which is followed by a Memoir
of that able and accorapHshed nohlemAn.^^The Bookuform;
an ittust rated Literary and SiNiooraphicat Revi^tPt Pari
XIL, for 1870. Our readers will share our regret that
owing to the late horrid war, this nttmber whioh eom-
pletes the fifth volume closes this curious and Instnietivs
periodical, the only one which la exclusively devaUd to
Dibliography,
228
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4*s.viLii»a«,xi.7L
The publishing firms of Ix»n<1on have jtiBt lost two
k well known and most respected niem?w?ra of Uiat bodr,
JAr. Utmry Blacketl, of the firm of IJnr»t A Blackett
of Great ' Marlboroujtjh Street, diH on Mond&y last
from an attack of apoplexy, in his forty-fifth yearr Mr.
Sampson Low, Jun,, whosc^ namt- was wtill known in
connection with many philanthropic institution!^ nnd who
was not only a pulili.ihcT bat an author — as hia uaeftil
Acetmnt of'tht London Charities, frequpiitly reprinted,
amply teMifles — died on Sunday last, s^d forty- eight,
after many years of suffering borne with Cbmtiaii
resignmion,
AuTOORArHS. — The fyl lowing nre the prices of a (ew
cf the niore important lotjs wliiiih have been recently
aold by Messrs. Puttick ami Simp-^fln : —Lot 16, King
Edward IV. and }m briither, when thirtven yearn &[
ai^e, 32/.; 68, Cctrrespondenco relatinj? to the Tilarrtage
of Charles I. and Iknriutta Maria^ iU. ; ^3, A Sij^atnre
k«f OliFef Cromwell, ;)/. !»,; IIS^ Quopn Elizabi'th, sif^a-
\ tore on vellomt St. 13f . j l.'JO, Letter t>f Ilenr^^ Hammond,
f the eminent Divine TjL ■ 236 to 244, Nioe Lettfira of Lord
If elion, 34/. ; 294, VoUnfre, Hijned in full. 31. 15*. \ 307
to 309, Three Lettem of John Wealin% dL 18*.
TitE ATitENJjrM hm the following' : — Mr, E. Brock's
Te'«dilion of the fine alliterative poom of" Morte Arthure**
ii iKtarly rea.dy for thii Early English Text Society,
The Rfh Rivpji Expkpitio:?, — Messrs- Macraillan
L-^ Co, will shortly publi^h a '* Xarrntixe of the lied
' River Expedition/' by Captain Hu^^the, who Rccom-
panied the expedition in the capacity uf private nccretary
to the commander, Col. Sir Garnet Wolalcy,
America?! Bookh. — Tn the year 1^70, 2,004 new books,
including new ciliiiontt, were published in the United
States. 1/2^*0 were original American work*, 582 were
[fieprinls of Kngll.<^h book.i, and 172 wero tranjilationa or
Ifeprint* of forei^jn books. Classified accordin^'^ to 3ul>-
' cts, 264 belont^d to thcolojE;:^', 3oG to fiction, 151 to law,
J to art*, s^cienct-H, nml tine arti* ; 1^3 to trade, ciimmeree,
'tioUticis; f>4 to travel and geij^raphical research, l(Jk> to
history end biography, 122 to poetry and the drania, 112
to medicine and surgiry, 111 ware educational worki, GO
were animals, 2i^o werejtivenile works, 180 were miaceJ-
neou.H worki?. — Sampson Law'* Mfmthhj Bnllftin.
The Pu»t savfl :-^\Ve hear that Sir Robert Peel has aold
a valuable cufetion of pictures works of the old masters,
comprising tlio fincHt llobbema in existeace, as well as
the "Chapcan de Pnille," and a number of other cA*/#*
diruvrt, to the iiattan. Tho Govemracnt have become
purchasers at a priee of mm^ 70,0 OUiF. — a fijs^re which
does credit to Sir Kobert Peers liherality, for he could
have coramandetl fnr more money at Chrialie's. The
purchase will not disturb Mr, Lowers Budget, a* tho
iruRteejt of the National Gallery have 9,000/. in hand from
la-Ht year^ and with thia their annnal ■absJdy of 10,00-0/.
a year will enable tbem easily to make all necessary
Afrangementa.
Tub Auhky of St. Albans. — Not only Fngli^h
churchmen, not only eei.de:!i:ia^tical antir^uancH, hut all
who know what a centre of cmli=iation St. Albans woa
in former time?, will heur with deep regret that the recent
dry summers have m afleciod the f jumlatiotia of the
irenerable abbey aa to render imperative immediate steps
for ita preservation. It is said that to do this ctlcctually
DO less a sum than 40,0ou/. will b^ required. But the
state of the tower roquirinf; instant attention, a preli-
minary meeting of gentlemen connected with Ilertford-
ahire ban been held At Ltrd \>ruUmX and a subscription
entered Into to dtfnty thi: t!:^pen«e» of securing the safety
of that import&nt pii'it of the abbey.
BOOKS AND ODD TOLUMES
WANTIID TO PrBCHASK,
F&nictitAri of PHoe^ Ac., «r tbe MUonHnc Book* lo t» wni Alftt I0
tii«cr«Qtlemrn hj whom i}Mi7«i« rtQQftnd. vtkow nBmm ttod Mlilto—
art given fur tUoi ptirpon: —
CLArRmiTM A7III.S. Hub relbfiotd Mn^uicrr, in(Vj FroBtiaket^
1Pattbr» Fon Voi??ft» {STt^inciiTfl ts Tirt UirrvnianT, kI Ibrife la^
the E^lfr of Mr. Amhni*e UoritHekt. Lnnd<iii» 1749.
Mixon, MnHAI.H, U\ John U-nrrinc. Vol. UI.
Felix jirMycai.r'H IUnuh'Khc rott raa CiTV OF C4!rTT«Bntr:2,
I.iv ISuidll. T
Rom i)m« tn Cmr-
Am or wiifcaiE^L
NAil,L.1Lil> ,. y>t iUK. J. IMS AAW MUAtii Oir . Sni
Ditto, tterri 111 c<L «v<>. N<*wt»,*l.k.]!i]7.
Tiiii Lirs OF LATR RXT. Joux 4oH7no!f, A.ll.,ati., by iti»la|ft|
ThtilUM ami, LL.D. «va, J^intkin. I74lv
AarifaiBKor SAycRorT's OocAaiojiAi. ScKVOXt. with •
on hi* life. &ti, IrtW,
V^Ai.Tm Pop* : An Awendi* to the Ufc of «<tli. Lord J
iRatitbiirr, I^indon, 1«97.
Waated by JTr, J, r. Strm^tU, }y Uin»r Brwik t .
lOulx if quite clftdn And iicrlbcCJ
i
i^Anrnv Mi««kT.. 1M4. All or p^jit.
nnRviAniiTif KKoiirntBii. »vo.
SAitnu. «r Vrirk Strricc Bt»k«.
jAJf KB I/» \VoBK(4. fctlio, Iaf^ tnit tiaperfeet o^nr «<Q 4ft.
Ear If Sent* Vk>uk*.
rrlnls t)T Hn_V(terh'wir. RcinbTa.T)flt. «Dd R«r1j Cacr*T«fs.
PurtTAJ U t.f Ixml Dudley and Wanl. 1 7H0> a&
Eripli«h MAniiicri|iftA.
Tnle to CTi»|.1n I^m«c'* B5Mc PrinU.
WAutvd bf £<v^, J, C. Jitrlcum, li, UAnof Ttmux, Amltitfil Bo«{,
U&ckn«ytN.K.
I
Ifrntrix's T.i rr np Sitt!f,lmy.
Tuv I sn or Urao^v ajit) SHEUtsr.
>lAi or I-iOtto Briv>Tt.
Uvi. uridCrttic«.ti) J. S. Moot*. *
MIJ.U.... - .,.,,.,, .,; ll.lKBuiwcr.
LirN ii§> UvkiiiiiS, Lr} AniL-,trrinc.
TlIK RlVfLrxH ; B Driaun. hjr M. F. IVmcttl,
WAutcd by itr. JiiAn mUtfu n. Great &ib«sU StrvH, W<iC.
Pkaoooe'a Gir!nr» or nn TnAim.
— HBAbLOso lUu.,*c., beinc Vol. LTH. or*Iirti«»
Wanted l>y Mr. Mortimtr OtUltu, Kaowl Hill. 1
WnjiflTTT's HiHTOHV or Easax. The Faru omlainliie p^N Ml V
codtVal. 11. ^
Wanliid by Aft , S, Sm ttA.t, F«niTjf oke Ha«d« WaJlhaiirtflr.
Coircn TriK Ai,T.Frijr:n CkstexakiA'??. — Th At
which Wt appended in Mu. t'oi.B Caukw*S pf««/ tMl
Omch was 95 and not 110 fantfe, p. 2t)0), wt omtttedtk'
name of the ship on Aoarflf of which hf tniered rAm aaM
tten ffears of affe in June^ 1794. It wot the Bitofllktf'f |
which was commitsioned in that jfear.
Makrociieih wit! find the couplet —
" Who mnke<i the quartern loaf and Luddites riae?
Who fills the butchers* shops with large bluafiieif*
in eAe Jlejecied Addressei.
W,G.STfi^K,—*'Efistem Story** tL*ilt be found nm
at p. 131, I out appear to have bf.tn ditfio/NiW, M<* j
jAtf// be cffad to insert further i!»/rirw*»/ion. , i
Errata.— l»h S. vi. p. 167, col. ji. line l,^if "iu«».
retui " naraer " ; line "it/af ** voice ** read ** vote '* ; fk. i^
coU rl. lIuL' 28j/.*r " Dio^cne^^d Laartitu ** road •' Dwg**
LaertiuO
and
auinio
1^ S, TO, March 18, 71.] NOTES AND QUEHIES-
229
LOMDOir, &ATURBAT, MARCH IMSTl.
CONTENXa— N* 168,
^nyrXS ? — a Letter of Edward IV„ 229 — On the Conjoint
Froprielioribip In Ben Joiuon'a Worki, £S0 — lAnciJihf re
Funertl Cutioznt, S3l --Swias Bpring Bong. Tb. — John
B!y«r— Eecovety of Fcock Gbnrcli Bcf^iflier— Bash State-
amto — MS. Nota» on Ply-I«ivei — " WeU-nigh " for
"Almoft": "Once mnd again"— " Mother Red Cap" —
Wordsworth : Constable, ic. — Curioua Propbpcy — Wild
Froita in Germany, 238.
^TTSttlES: — Albaney and Amonderllle -^ Arunde] and
Aratidello — Mordecai Gary — A one (Ciiapman) Knii^ht-
ley — Mrs. Mary Churcbill — Lnrd Dudley and Wanl. 1784
— WiJliam Fcnwick, Mayor of Hull —German Princcn —
**God*9 Baby " — Good 8ir ami Dear Sir— Lines on tho
Bsman Ear — Geor^p London — Macaulay'a Balladi —
ledical Order of 8t, Jobn — Meaning of "Naccarine" —
?Bll ?. and the Vf netiana — Pipe Roll, 5 Stephen— Punch-
kdte of George IIL — Herjeant Saik<.4d — Sickle Boyne :
IdfiDa Money — Tnipp's " Virgil " — Lancaahifo Witcbei
-woodcut Initial Letters, 2S4^
IBFLrES: — Gainabonragh's ^*Blue Boy," 237 — Britiah
%e^eA Chariots i Mra, Markham. 240 - The Complotion
«f St, hmra Cathedral, 241-Sir William Roger, Knt.. 242—
EmcSKh Disceiit of rMniel O'Couni'll* /A. — Dr. JobnBon'8
Vitch — Stamp on Picture Canvaa — Btilta = Cratchoa —
Hocampano — BocpR Ornamentation — La Caracolo — Who
ti a Laird ? — " Thoufyrh lo«t to Siffht. to Memory dear ** ^
JI*T, 8. Henley's KuKli^h " Vathek" — IIoc?Hy, the Ger-
ma Poet —The Dragon — Weaver's Art — Sheerwort -*
WgfT— Cobblers* Lampa hi Italy — " Queen Argenia "—
Vanraen : Waits—*' Uilarioii's Servant, tho Sago Crow **
^Uttral Painting in Star»to» Church, Norfolk— A Black-
«Hinlrj Legend, Ac, 24a.
Xfltei m Books. Ac,
E
A LETTER OF EDWARD IV,
Ajttong a collection of mitogmpbs recently sold
h Measfs, Puttick Sc Simpson waa one document
wBt will c«rtAinljr poBsesa some iDterest for mj
'iitw$ hiatoriftn of tlie Whtb of tlie Roses. It
|nrfeg«j8 to be a letter from Edward IV.^ tben
mtI of Marcli, and his brother tbe Earl of Rut-
W. written on December 10, 14C50, within llireo
**?« before the battle of Wakefield , in which
tb litter WAS slain ; and bo greatly waa ita
Cttriority eateemed by the eellers, that it is tmn-
•ftibed at fuH length, although with eomo mac-
^^UMiiAg, in the sale catalogue. It was aold for
Jhii^-two pound B» Afl it has not been secured
%tbe BntiBh Museum, and there are several
r>iate ID connection witli it that suggest inquiry,
l»e^ leave to send you a more accurate copy than
™*t b the auctioneers' catalogue :—
J^ EarU of March and Ru(hnd to the Dnkt; of Milan.
/^nioiitriaaime Princepset Excellentissime Domine^ po#t
^'Bdoaaa aalaUtiones. Ex relAtione f(|>ectabili« et geoe-
^ Tiri, domini Antonii de Tnrrf, Regtce MfljesUtif
^•Sns nantii et armigcru intelU ximtis do bono ri rice ntia
•J patitodine ilU cxbibita pro reverentia Macrae Eegiie
^jeitatis et etiam res]:i«ctu nostro, ac etiam de favore
*^^ pnisitito in Romana Curia apud Pontificem Masti-
"*°* pro nostris votis et hone^tis desideriis irapetrandifli
*t ^ tiognltn earitate et benevoleutia quam ad ito« et
JJJ^m noatraiii Ezoelleotia vestra gerit, pro qiiibus
^vi pcwfatK ExceUeatiiB irestne cumuIatiMitne re^ra-
"inn Et qnoniam malta mnt nobii cordi guie IJ. r.
jam cupinius rovelari, ideo eiandem dominuna Antoniam
dnjumua remittendum ad SanctisBimum Donunum nos-
trum Papam et ve^tram Excellentiam de intentione ac
desideriia noatHs pleniraime infonuatam. Quo circa
rogamna £. vestram EiEcellentiam ut ilJuiii more sua soltto
graliose anj^cipiat et audiat ac plenam itU fidem adhibeatp
et per eundeni respondere dtgnetur. Speramiis In I>omino
et in virtate Reverendipdmi Dooiini Legati Apostolici
aptid nofl exbtentifl; ciijua «tatna ctim nostris fortunia
est conjnnctusj qnod reram nostriirum suceenua erit
gloriofliia aicut idem dominua Antoniu^, lator prmsentiumf
latius expUcehit, Vnlcat Excellentia vestra, ad ciu'uB
benepladta parati gumus. Datum Londonhe, die x, De-
cembna Mcccdx.
" Excd1eiiti» Testne amid et cansaQgDinei
Kduardtts Marchii^ et Edmondna Rntliu-
tandia^Comite^, dlii illustriagimi Priudpt!*
Eicardiy veri, iuHti, et legitimi iucrediA
regnorum Anglifle et Francia?, ac Dominii
Hybcrniae, Ducia Eooraci, etc.
" E. iL^RCli, E. RpTI^KD."
[Addreaaedl — ** IlIufltnsAimo et Excellentisatmo Vo-
minO| Dnmioo Francisco Sfortim Vicecoraiti etc. Duei
Mediokni, inclyto amico Dostro honorando/^
[Endorsed] — **I>ominomm oonsilio ad Dncem Medlo-
loni."
It would be veiy desirable that some informa-
tion could be obtained about the pedigree of this
document On the first blush there appear some
reasons for questioning its authenticity. For one
thing, it contradicts the received historical ac-
count as contained in Hall, according to which
the Duke of York left London with his son,
the Earl of Rutland, on December 2 — that is to
aay^ eight days before this letter was written,
and sent to his other tK^n, the Earl of March , to
follow him into the North. Both of these sons
had been with him in Parliament on October 31
(see MoUa of Pari v. 879) ; but since that day it
would appear that Edwoitl muat have left Lon-
don, and we know from Hall that the news of
his father*a death at Wakefieldi on December 31,
reached him at Gloucester, from which place he
then removed to Shrewsbury, and was still not
far from the Welsh border when he fought the
battle of Mortimer's Croi^s on February 2. More-
over there are some things in the style of the
document which might reasonably be regarded
with suspicion. " RegjEc Majestatis nostne " is,
to say the least, a very singular expresedon to be
used by either March or Rutland at a time when
Henry VI. was acknowledged as king even by
their father.
If the document is genuine, I should be dis-
poeked to say that it must have been drawn tip
in the name of Henry YI,, although sigtied by
the two earlS| who had the king practically in
their power j and yet the language a little further
on seems hardly consistent even with this view of
tbe case* The expressions " pro reverentia Sacne
Regime Majefltatis et etiam respectu noetro/* ac-
cording to any ordinary interpretation, surely
imply that tbe letlei waa tlxA Xo W wiltsfictCtjft^ \Pi
230
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«* 5. VIL lUftcn IB, 71.
the kinjr, ^iH by some other persons. In short,
I gee nothing for it bat to acknowledtre that the
writers pnrtly identified themselvefe with th*^ kinjsp,
and jct allowed themselves in one place to speak
of the kine as a third person.
From these circumstances no one will he sur-
prised to hear that very strongs saspicious have
oeen entertained as to the authf*nttcily of this
document^ or, at all event.**, of the subscription
and sipiaturea. There is, however, something to
he said on the other side in favour of its genuine-
ness. A letter very much the same in substance
was certainly written by Henry VL to the p<ipe
on the very day on which this letter was dated,
A contemporaneous copy of it is preserved in the
archives of Milan, and will be found noticed in
Mr. Rawdon Brown's Calcmhtr of Venetian StaU
Papers. In this letter, as in the document under
consideration^ Antonius de Turri, or della Torre,
is spoken of as *' our euvoy,*' ss an ambassador of
Henry VI., who had been lately sent to the pope,
had returned, and was about to be despatched
again— although, oj* %ve Jiiid from Mr. i?ro\vn's
Calendar ^ tlie critical situation of nlT.iirs induced
him to remain in London for at least a month
longer, that he ml^^lit bo able to report the issue
of events. There is ako in both letters a refi^r*
ence toCoppini, bishop of Teramo, the leg^ate sent
. to England by Pius II. to reeoncilo the conten'l-
ing factions j and the manner in which his servico:*
are referred to are quite what we might have
expected*
in Henry's letter to the pope, preserved at
Milan, ho is said to have cHl^ctel much q;ot>d» and
the king hoped that he would effect uioro if
assisted* But in the letter of the two eons of the
Puke of York he is alnif^st claimed a^ a partisan
on their aide ("cujus status cura n<^>stris fortunis
estconjunctus "), which there is no doubt he prac-
tically was by the moral support he ^^ave to their
cause.
All this is certainly in favour of the ^^euuiue-
neas of the document. It has nevertheless been
suspected by pentlomen whose opinion in such
matters in worthy of all deference, that, althou(?li
the body of the document be genuine, the sub-
ficription and signatures may be for;xeries. This
supposition would leave us free to believe, accord-
lu^ to the received accounts, that neither of the
fluppoaed writers was at the time in London j
wBereas, if we uphold the genuinenei's of the sig-
natures, wo must conclude tbat the chroniflera
were wrong, not only as to the Eaii of Itutland
having gone with his father to the North, but
also as to the Earl of March hftTing by that time
left London.
I believe myself it is qtiite poFsihle that the
chroniclers were wrong in both these points, and
that the document in question thus supplies us
with new and naore a^^^^^formatioii.^ ~~
before we can presume that this U an, it is re
desirable that the document itself should be su'
Diitled to critical inspection by compt?tent jndjj
as to the anthenticity of the si<rnatures. 1 fny*<
inspected the MS, in the sale* room befAf
attention was drawn to any of the points <
picion, and tho handwriting did not stri
IIS in any way liable to quei^tion ; but I will I
means warrant that under the circumsta
may not have been deceived.
I would, therefore, beg leave to sttffgest t" I
present owner of the M8. tbat h»* would be doiil
a service to English hislory if be would consej^
to lend it for a short time to the tru^^teea of
British Museum, who, I bav« no doubt, would 1
glad to tako it into their custijdy that it migh
be carefully inspected by paheographers, and tq
signatures compared with other sijJinatures of til
Y^xth of March and Rutland, K) that itJ8 eia
historical fiiguiticance may be the better asce^
tained. JAJkins Gair^kkilI
OX TOE CONJOINT PROrRlICTOUSniP ISf B£^
JONSON'S WOnKS.
In a former note (4^* S. v. S74), when speakln
of tlie second volume of the IajIio Uhu Joa
published by Meighen in 1(140, but cootaiuio^
three plays published by Allot in IGJl, I
as follows: —
" As to the three plavs of l€3t. AH. ' '
tbmi to M" igheti» or, aa is nmre likely,
jniTit puhlicaiion. A sunilar cimjojut [ ^
I thhik, to be found in tlio fir^t ^-alume [i>r IG-iO],
Pttrlojiier, though pvidicnth' printed st th** *^m« i
with the reat, and though bearing one of '
[the publisher of the volume], has Youn
name on its title-page. Tha probabU*
Ihii iv, that Young^ held ihc right of publkAhu
Pitctastvry And by placing hh nnine on tti« title pAj
hia proprietOTsbip hUact, and ensured hii ripl>t <
much shflra (nbout one- twelfth) in the pi'utiti f/
volume. The same occurs in th« Bible of Ii'>ii7.**
Two dftvs ago, wliile nrranginp^ tho loose le^v©
or a tirat "folio of 1010, I observed aimihir diff
encea in its particular tille-pripres. The
on;^ruvied title bears, *' Imprinted «t Londo
Wilh Staneby/* and the title-pn^t*8 of all tfi
plays, save two, bear, '* London | Prinf^d by Wil-
liftm Stan#»by.'* One of these two^ iVrry >V*i
Oitt of hi« JInmour — the only play that hm i^^
engraved head-pieces instead of one, and vrb«»f* |
alone in the volume is a tixil- piece to be ftnind^ r
has also the only en^aved and ornaminn
ticulftr title-page, and it bears, ** London
by W. Standby | for L Smith wicke.'* Tln> •""
or Poetader^s title-page hears ''London | Vmiel
by William Stansby | for Matthew Lown?*/* jl»*
quarts) edition of the Poetaster in 1601 ItavifljJ
been *» Printed for M.L./^and ♦*fiOuV^ - ^' ^"''♦A'
8tan*8 Church-yarde/* It is there! '''-'^
fli Stansby (or ,'
H ti
Tin March 18/7L] NOTES AND QUERIES-
231
Uie right of publishing rU the other pre-
nously publiflhed plays, Smith wi eke, to whom
tU^ ..i-;,>T.,.] T^TinirJetot of £eery Mail Out of his
lied h\s rights, and M. Lowne«,
_-_ ..„ .i.ji of the Pbetaater, had refused
to part with their rights, but had allowed of the
repnnting of their pieces without prejudice to
themselves, and on condition either of a bum down
or of a &hare in the protita. It i^ curious to find
that, so long after M 1040, Ilobert Younfi:, who
most in the mean time hare ohttiiiied the pro-
prietorship formerly held by Lownes, again re-
fused to part with tho Poeta^er. Either this
iDdicates the continued popiUarity of the libellous
aitire, or the determination of "i oung to drive a
hiid bfirgain in a matter in which ho had the
TDftstery. That Siuithwicke held to the other
"piay in 1616 on account of its popularity seems
|royed by Jonson'a words of pretiace to tlie folio
tdition, and by Smithwicke s godJatherly cm-e in
decking it out.
Thera 18 yet another difference in this volume
ofieia The five titln-pagos of ** The Epigram V
wt of the ** King's Entertainment on passing to
\k Connation/' ** A Panegyre, &c./' *' A Par-
timliir Entertainment ... at AUhorpe/' and of
''Maatiues at Court," are without name of printer
Of puoiifiher, and merely bear the imprint, *' Lon-
don I K.DC.ivi,** Why this ditrerence was made
I da not know, but my conjecture ia, that for the
, or for the chance, of greater profit (may the
\ of William Gifrord not take this aa another
on his favourite !), Jonaon kept the pro-
orahip of these in his own hands. It would
looked Ptrange in that day to have put
nted for the Author | by | W. SUnsby,*' and
I think all mark of proprietorship was
evond the words ** by B. E," which on
Bion would, I conceive, be held as legal
the author's ownership of the pieces^
' tltle-pagea of the 1640 edition (that of
'Panegyre'* being left out), an edition pub-
after the author's death, bear the usual
t of idl the others — *' London | Printed by
op/' BRUffiLBT Nicholson.
HN'CASHIRE FUNERAL CUSTOMa
la the Furness district of North Lancaahire
*Mne interesting customs existed within a few
J*W8 igo* Singing or chanting psalms or hynma
Ldh Die sorrowful train wended its way towarda
^B charch was yerj common and is still prac-
^••d. I have an extract from an old lady 'a will
^e in 1704 which shows the importance at-
**^ted to this ceremony. It bequeaths ** twenty
"^iara, to be distributed by my said Son in Law
^ euch young men and others who shall sing
^••hni before my Corpao to j* Church all y* time
^ttyfanemL"
Is thia a relic of pre-re format! on times ? The
old Sarum Use provided for singing as the corpse
was borne to the grave the '* Non nobis Domine "
or Psalms xxv. and cxiv,, according to the dia-
tanre, and on retumbg from the grave at the
conckiaion of the ceremony " Be proruudis," &c.
Another custom was to give to each individual
a small cake made of the purest wheat en dour
j (oat-bread being in general uae) called " arval
bread/* whicli he or she was expected to carry
home and eat with the rest of the family. A
large number of persons was usually *^ biJden,"
and it was considered a great slight if each family
did not send at least one representative. la this
word etrval derived from the Anglo-Saxon ar-ftd^
respectful, awful, full of reverence ; or from the
He Drew word ahrat^ to hang down, to mourn?*
In some parts of E urn ess, where the parish church
was at a considerable distance, the bearers, who
carried the corpse on a rude kind of bier, were
obliged to rest at intervals along the road ; and
places were erected by the roadside here and there^
called " resting-stones,'* upon which the coffin
waa placed imtil a relay was provided and all
had rested. In theae districts it was common to
dii; tribute the arval bread before starting, and
each person received a cake nnd a quarter. The
quarter was generally eaten during a bait about
halfway to the church* 11. B^ebgh, M.D.
Ulverston. •
SWISS SPRING SONG.
As the " auestion of Savoy * ' has been recently
agitated, and, so far at, least as a neutral zone or
portion of Chablaia ii concerned, is likely to form
a flubject for future discussion and deliberation
between France and Switzerland, I send a trans-
lation of a poem by Doctor Ziegler of Soleure,
which came out afeortly after the present Sir
Robert Peel so eloquently defended the cause of
Switzeriand in the British Parliament. The ori-
ginal is entitled '^ Friihlingsgrusz an Sir Robert
Peel, in Genf/' To show the beauty and melody
of Zieglers stanzas, I give the first verse :—
** FrUhliniyslllfte in den Thalcrn,
Bbuer Ilimmel in der llciti*,
Grilrie Matlen, grilae Triften,
BergesUlitmen unterni Scbnee,
Auf den Fliksen weisse Segel,
Auf tiem See geschilft'ger Kiel»^>
Soi willkomm in unBeru Bergen,
Edler Britte, Robert Peel I "
" Strain! of spring salute the valleys 5
In the lift the heaven U blue ;
Verdure deck^ the tieldfl and hed^rgg'
Flowreta peep the unow- drifts thraugh;
On the Iftke— the -white saiii streaming —
Ple&atire plies the active keel.
Weleoin« nmtf amidst our moantfliaii
Noble BritoQ— Rob«rt P«d 1
232
NOTES AND QUERIES. [^s,vilmakch la,*
" Many a prreat mind dwflb mnongus;
Alien poGta tune this lay*
And rewArd proverbial friendship
With the works that live for aye.
Tibou h&at uttered words of freedom^
Words our wonoded spirits feel ;
Therefore welcome to our mountains.
Brave protector— Robert Feel I
•♦ Thou hast jjirded on thine armour,
Aimed the well-directed lance,
Waved llelvfctia's whitc-croi?s banuer
In the face of pniiipiii^ France.
Iloarta like thine will guard our hirtbright
From the bruise of deapoU* heel,
Thisrefore welcome to our mountains.
Bold conffederate— Robert Peel I
•* Monarchs ahowcr their dcGorations,
Buttoned ribbou, cross of gold :
»SiJch erotic plants we grow not,
Tb<»y would droop in Alpine cold,
Idioti' straws and r hildron'^ haublee
To their slaves let tyrartt^ dtjal \
Fame for thee baa bright^jr honours,
Gfncrous stranger — Robert Peel I "
Jamkb IteJRr Dixon,
John- Dtkr. — The poems of Dyer are to be
found in Johnson's JW/^, although the editor waa
unable, appareutly, to claim for them any merit
to justify their preaervatiou. In liis life of Dyer
we read^
" of * The Fleece,* which never became popular, and is
now univeraaily ne^1eeic4i 1 can aay little that is likely
to recall it to attention."
It ia not of the poem a, however, but of the
autbor'a portrait prefixed to hia life (Johnson's
PwtSj 17bOj vol. T.), that I wish to put a note on
record, on the authority of ''Maloniann" (pub-
lished at the end of Prior'a Life of Edinond Ma-
lone^ p. 423), where, writing of Smnufl Dyer, one
of the members of the Literary Club, (who, by
the way, was suppoeed to have written the ZeUers
o/Jtmit4ji), M alone says : —
♦* Sir Jo:*bna UejTtoids painted the portrait of Mr.
(Samuel) Dyer, which j» now in Mr. Burk*yu possess ion -
There m a mezzotinto from it, which haR been copied for
TAir Lirt-x of the Poet* by mistake, as if it wore the por-
trait of John Dyer, author of a poem called The Fleece,'^
Chakles Wyiib.
Rbcovbey op Fkock Chubch Kkgisteb, —
The local papers announce the recovery, by the
Rev, W. laj^o, of Bodmin, of an old volume of
registers for the parish of Feock between Tniro
and Falmouth : —
" He met with it in London, and finding that it had
DO doBcriptive title, but evidently tmlonged to aotne Cor-
nbh pariftb, consul led documents in the registry at
Bodmin (by permiasion of Mr. Collins), and was thus
enabled to itieatify it aa one of ihe parish re^fijitera of
Feock, lost very manv years ago. it reeords baptisms,
marriages, and burials durinj? the iQcumbendes of throe
▼icari (Jackman, Coode, and Ange) between 1671 and
Greenwich,
Rash STATEMKirr8,--As a remarkable instance
of this, take the following from Gibbon {Dcdmt
and Faiif vol. i. chap, v.) : — " An hundjred wtU-
didcipUned soldiers wiU command with deepotic
swaj ten millions of subjects,'* This is ome mtt
against one hundred thousand, Now, according to
ordinary computation, if this one man had to edi
over the mnster-roU of these one hnndied thou-
sand, and were to continue without intennbaoa
from eight o'clock in the morning till four in til
afternoon — no trifling day's work — lie would not
get through it under tJiree days.
Another, not much inferior, is quoted by Folfer
(Jlijltf State, book iv, chap, xvii. s. 2) from Til-
man Bredenach, De BeUo Livon. : —
" I can scarce believe what one tella us, bow Wiltv
Ptetemberg, Master of the Teutonic Order^ with a mil
number, alew in a battle a hundred thousand Ma»cdTtt»
enemies, with loss of but one man on hia side.**
Scarce belieTe I I should think not indeed, ai
who could, unless he had deluded bimieU into
the belief that the Munchausen lies were nuked
truth. Edmtjitd Tew, iLA.
Patching Bectory, Arundel.
MS, NoTKs ON Flt-leatbb.— On the flj-M of
a MS. treatise on Wines, thirteenth centuns, in »J
very cramped and almost illegible hand, mudlf
contracted : —
" I Jitliua cesar y' hefjh emp*"
Tn fVythe and in feld still fair waa mr failM
Of Uunie & of liomaua I bare ay y« flour
and Llicns caput mundi wei TcoUed be uafDe*
" I Ali^under conquered to paradys gete
Sauo y ile of women all y*^ warld 1 it wan
In acba^'^i^ *^hai inc sent a lauedi of state
Wytiies of Arestotlc y* dwelt w* me than,
" I am eetor of troy (k dnk of cegipt
mony hethen haue I kylde & hedyde at any*
I conquered y* greki-? to y* grek tee
and em&ng tiiame 1 dyod & tbar
lyes my bonys.'*
On a leaf at the end of the same MS. occurs tfcf
following chamij apparently to be used il *
styptic : —
** In Homme patrii Sf flU et tpirihu nmeti, whea «*?
lorde IbesuB wa5 don on y** cros, than com loagiDH*
thider & amot hym w* hya sper in y* ayde hlad& wate'
com oat at v* wounde & wypyd hya e^hene 4 tti^
anone . thregh y* holy vertewe' y* god ayde gofs. I
comavinde y" blnde y' y» com noght out of y*« cooipy*'
tyma* In nomine patrU ^c, Sat^ ^* thrywJ*
West Derby, Liverpool. JoHH EliOT HoDGlSS*
*' Wkll-ihgh *' FOR ** Almost** : " Oirc* u^
AOAm." — Who brought into fashion the war*
weU-ntffhj which within the last year or so h#^
come to be commonly substituted for iilmoUt Oa^
has always been familiar with iOfJl-ftiffh in ol^
English^ and in our northern counties it has neT0>^
^ne out of colloquial use ; but in ordlnaij £ti^
\ \\a\i a^fefe^i^aVva.'w^^Mi^^it bad become netaiX
rka-vit.MABCHis.Ti.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
233
IrTi
obtolete. All petsotiB now-ft^aye read newa*
papers and norels, and many read nothing else, so
thfit tt word once started by a popular novel-writer
or journalist becomes within a few months adopted
by the public in a truly remarkable manner. One
ea&Dot DOW take \fp a newspaper^ maf2:aziQ6| or
pcpolar tale without coming noon wdl-nigh in
fluch a position as almod would na?6 held a year
or two ago.
Onoi mid apain h another pet phrase of quite
recent populariiy. If a thing occurred repeatedly
vi- ' -ayit happened "again and again/' but
n icrite (1 do not observe that they
gtfy f tmrt tmd m/ffin, Mj*, Troll ope, if I remember
rightly, usea the phrase; perhaps he aet the
' Ion. Like well-nitjh^ onee and a^ain was for-
■It in U3e (I Thess. ii. 18), and perhaps it has
rived aa a proviuciaiiam, and has now become
w»pttlari*ed by some favourite author, who baa
himself retained it through his early provincial
up-bringing, Jaydee,
** MoTiTER Red Cap," — I forward you a print
af '^Mother Damnable/' a few copies of which I
bate now in my possession, and shall have plea-
*um in distributing them amongst collectors of
7\h: Tirint>, ii* I believe this to be a specimen.
I lag accounts of notorious and eccen-
uals, and shall feel oUigod if any cor-
swpondent could furnish me with any information
ibout the female thus described : — '* Mother
Btmuahle, the remarkable shrew of Kentish Town,
lib© person who gave rise to the sign of the
'Mother lied Cap on the flampstend Road^ near
J^HMlon^ Am I>om. 1G70, Taken from an unique
print in the collection of the late I. Brindley, Esq."
Hcrtun* Office, Cheltcribara. ThoMAS IliRPKR,
Wfmi^iwoKTH: Constable^ etc. — There is a
^"^TTnt Viv Words worth T appended to the edition
Liies^ publieued by lleory Wash-
•-40, in which the following lines occur
; rUics, doubtless with a view of calliiig
attention to their beauty : —
" The feather whence tbe pen
^u »hapedi that traced the lives of these good men,
^^i^i ittun an angera wing/'
Tlw iilea i^ certainly felicitous, but it did not
nft>m*».. ^^ Wordsworth: for, in a sonnet
To the King of Scots," by Henry
. , a poet now scarcely remembered, the
*^cluiling lines are br follows r —
•Th.i r».n i#h..r..i*ith thoo dost 80 faeavcnly singe
i' k't from an angell'S winge,"
^i' ^ it he thus varies, in one of his
^'^pirituAil Soonettes.^ in praiae of ^'St. Katha-
•' My muie doth nc^cde
An anirtlVt fratherst when thy prayae I Bynge/*
■ i^n to the above ejUxacts from Henry
let me add the following from the
quaint author of the JSmMenis, who rises to un-
usual elevation in his poem on " Faith " : —
** Bat woald'^t thou conqaer. have thy conquest crown'd
By hands of §eraphim», triumphed with the wjund i
Or heaven's loud trumpet, warbJcd by the shrill
O'Jestlal choir, recorded with a quill
PlackMl from the pinion of an anthers win^^,
Coniirni'd with joy by heaven^s eternal King ;
Conquer thymif, tW rebel thoughts repel.
And chase those fabe ttffectioaii that rebel/'
Surely these passages prove that Wordsworth's
imitation of both or either of these pot^ts must
have been more than accidental. T. C» S.
[AttentioD haa already hmn called in ** N. & Q." (!•*
S. vii. 191) to the former of the passages from Con&table
3uoted by T. C, S. lu the same volame attentioo is
irected tt> a similar thought In some verses by Dorothy
Berry, prelijced to Diana Primrose's Otain of I'earU,
1G39 : —
" whoai? noble praise
Deaarves a quill pluckt from an Angelas wing/^]
CuEJors Prophecy, — In a register of the six-
teenth centujy, preserved in the archives of the
Palais de Justice at Bruges (Varia, No. 511), is
the following J I copy liU^rutim:-^
" Galtorum levitas Germanos ducet ad ostra :
Italiffi gra vitas Gallo d«preflso vigebit :
Suct'umbet Galium ; Aquilae victorio cedet :
Pupa cito uioriLtir, Caesar refsfUiihit uterqne
!Sic quo cefisahit tunc vani gluria mundi.
Congregati feunt leo et pardtia, diceutes : Ut quid Gttlltti
gnllinaceua excuttt in alas aaa^, et superbia sua exsltat
Yocem suam^ non enim est cootentus grani» auiSf aed
ccissat rapere alien a: venite ergo, cedamua eum virgis
gun^^mnolentiSf et amoveamus ab eo plumas suaa, et ad*
stringamua eum adi^o ut pauciji grams sit contentua ; ot
iilud quod hiibet auferte ab co, et scit a filiis hominum
quixi humiliabitur valde anpcrbia eins.
" Ilaec enim Hcripta »unt anno Domini 1506, decima
quints Septembris, ex uno antiquiAsimo libro, qui liber
tion credit ur AcHptua in duoenti* annis."
W, H. James Wkalb.
WiLB FRtriia m GEBMAif r.— The present low
prices of wild fruit in Germany seem to be a con-
sequence of the raging war, as thousands of bar-
rels full of them are annuallv exported to Franca
for the fabrication (or so-calf&d colouring) of the
^^ pure St. J alien claret/' the *^ University ckret;*' 3
or other "choice clarets of various growths." I am
especially alluding to wild raspberries and bil- ^
berries (Vaccinium mt/rtilhuj h.) ; a measure of]
the latter of which, equal in weight to five pounds,
was otlered to me this morning (July 27) for a
little more than twopence. An equal quantity of
heautifiil wild raspberries was selling for about,
sevenpence. Cartloads of the wholesome, aro-
matic, but bitter cxanbenry ( Vacctnittm viiu idna^
L.) will arrive in a short time, selling from three
to four pence the same quantity. Beautiful ripe
sour black cherries {Persica cerams^ L.) are selling J
a little more than a halfpenny a pound. These,
too, OS also the bird-cherry (Persicum axiium^Yk.^^
234
KOTES AND QUERIES. [4«^s.vii.Maeciii«.'
were exported for tlie same purpose. Immense doro then pnaaed by marriage to the Fitxalcmi till
quantitiefl of tbe bilberry ana the cranberry nro
preserved wUbout sug'Ar for tlie winter, will keep
for years, and are sweetened when used. Kuasian
cranberriea (a jelly of which is often put on the
top of other preserves, as a good way of '* keep-
IDg" them) are considered the best, never pos-
eeasing a Btnn<::ent or sorbate taate." The present
province of Hanover formerly exported the greatest
quantities of wild fruit for the above-named pur-
pose to France, amountingr, if I am rijrhtly in-
formed, to more than 300jO(KJ fnmc-^ a year. Claret
will rise ! IlEEHAifN KiNDT.
Gennflnv,
Albanetand Amoitdettlle.— In the list of
nrma and quflrterin^ of Worceatcrshire families
given by Nash in his history of that county are
these two entries : —
*' Allianey: Ai:ure, a chevron ennino between three
lieu rs- d e-1 h' II rcp n t.
*• Amonili^vihiji Argontf a croBS moUne . . , /*
Neither of theae coata is given in Pap worth's
Ordinan/, and 1 have many reasons for supposing
them to he wrongly appropriated. They are botli
given by Berry in hia appendix, but he has copied
many of Nash*s errors.
I wiwh to know to what families tliey really
belong, and by what Worcestershire family they
were quartered.
The latter coat I take to be that of Uvedale ;
for I find among the quarter tnga of Lord Howard
de Walden, in Kdmondson^a Baromi^imn^ the
i»oat of Aranndeville (Azure » a fret or) preceded
by that of Uvedala (Argent, a cross moline g^ules).
DidUvedale marry an heiress of Amnndevill**?
a s, G.
1580, when again by marriago it became ih
bei-itage of the Howards, who still hold it It i*
well known that in the thirteenth centurv, in th«*
reign of Henry IlL, the princes of the Ilotweil
Savoy, and e&uecially Peter If. (the little CharJ
magne), and Boniface, Archbishop of Canterbi
were in high favour at the Engli.-h ^-^^ih
London was crowded with their r.
Savoy, Vaud, and Piedmont It is ]
one of these nobles became connect •
Arundel family of those times (1241- j
upon going back to his country, out of regard for
English associations, gave his' castle the name fif
Arundel; precisely as Cardinal Gualo n*pro<]ii ^l
the architecture and the name of St. Anrf^,. -
church of Chester in the beautiful Sant^AnJni
nf Vercelli. Tlmt in tho.^. days the inteni.--
between Itjily nnd England and the connecltoii
between the families of the two countrief wa*
not un frequent, we may argue from the fact thij
John Fitsialan, seventh Earl of Arundel (h'a>-
1^0*2), married Alice, daughter of the Marquwof
Caluzzo. It is also on record that in ISfe, »t
Bourbourg in Plnnders, Amadeus VIL of Sawrr
(called *'The Red Count") held a toumameni,
attended by several English lords ; and th&t ooe
of these, the ^' Earl of Arundel,'^ was unboned br
the Savoy prince. The English nobleman aOudei
to could only be Richard Hlxalan, tenth Earl of
Arundel
Can learned biBtorians or genealogistj tbww
any light on this subject ? Q©.
Arukdel axd Arcxdello. — In one of the
valley 8 of the Canarese, or province of Ivrea^ in
Piedmont, there are the ruins of a cattle bearing
the nftTue of Arundello, It was built after the
year 1170 by one of the many branches of the
noble family of San Martino, who bore the title
of Lords of Arundello down to tho last century,
when they bt*cnme extinct Could it be possible
to eiphiin the identity of name between the Ita-
lian castle and the English castle and town, or
at least between the family of the Italian Lorls
of Arundello and that of the English Earls of
Arundel P The first Earls of Arundel in England,
from 1139 to 1221, were the Albini— one of whouj
cnme with the Conqueror to England. The eurl-
* The brAmble {Rnhua /rutirnMUB^ I,,) t« 1pm tboujjhl
of in Germnay ttian in KiiprlarifJ, furnifliung: as it docs an
excelleni ptv^s^rve. A French lady of mv acquaintance
I "'""/t/ never aihtr bar ehikiren to ^&i bkAbcrrtcs, aa siie
I t wr<? ofUuir brini^ng on a hctdaehe. |
MoRDECAT Cart.— Mordecai Cory of Trimtr
Collide, Cambridge, went to Ireland flschnpUinttt
the Duke of Dorset, Lord-Lieutenant; he becunns
Bi.^hop of Clonfort in 17iil^ and was promoted to
Killala in 17**i.S. He married Catherine, dftoghtar
of — — ? 1 eh all be obliged by an awxwfH
of his ancestry. Y, S» IL
Anne { Chapman) IvNionTLKT. — •' Auaei
daughter of Sir John Chapman, Lord Major in
1*188, was the wife of knightley/* Wbo^nf
her husband? He does not appeiir in BakerV
pedigree of the Knightleys of Fawsley*
c.D,a
[It appears that Sir John (^apman died Mar 7, iX
Ifavinj^ two ibiu^rbtora : the elder roamed ^ir OllTff
A}'HTic«rab, Bart», af Lj-ffbrri, In Berkshire ; tho xovn^^
liHhla, i\kd unmarried.^Burke's Extinct Baroiifitty*.]
Mrs. Mary CnuRCHiix. — In the parish ekvac^
of MJnterne, Dorsetshire, there is a memorial bj
Mrs. Mary Churchill ** in commemoration of Iwf
husband John Churchill, Esq./* who, acconJin^
to the register— for there is some little conftwi*^'^
as to the dates on the stone— seems to have di^
April a 1(3-50.
From ft comparison with other memarwidit it
L ft«tm^ \iM^\^ Y^'^'^'^ "^"^ "l^ubt that this Joto
4»^SwnLMAnctti«.7io NOTES AND QUERIES, 235
Ch archill ^ns the grandfAther of the great Duke
of Miirlborough, who ia stated bj all tbe Peer-
iig^ and in Ilutohins's Ili^ory of Dortet to
have married Saralt^ daug^hter and co-heir of Sir
Henry Winst o n . I f so, M rs. Mary C hurch i 1 1 in u st
have been hb second wife; nnd the oiiestioiis
ariae, who was sbe, and when did Sarah Winston
ilie, and where was she buried ? Mrs, Mart/
Cburdiill, the wife of Mr. John Churchill, Esq.,
wna (according to the retjister) buried July l*«^i
1077. Answers to these queries will g^reatly oblige
C. W, BiNGHAar.
TvOBD DrDLi!T AND WiJtD, 1784. —Ilas any
portrait of Lord Dudley, about 1784 or so« been
engraved ? ' J. C. J.
TV* ILL! A K Fen WICK, Mator of Hull. — Can
vou jirucur*? me inforination as requested con-
suming William Fenwick, who whs mayor of
HttJ! in 1709 and a^rain in 1727? He married
Mrlior, daughter of Isaac Fairfax of ThonitoOj in
Vi#«k*>nng, and Catherine his wife. William Fen-
'iu* **Chamberlwn of Hull, 1G99/' and was
' Nicholas Fenwick/* I should be glad to
iiTuvnurbich branch of the Fenwicka he belonged
to. Co tnuiuui cations to be addressed to raOp
Mus. Barwick Baker, Ilardwicke Court,
Gloucester.
PRFKCE. — In The Spintml Kvercises
'riis (London, Burns, n. d., p. 51) there
li locuUuii of —
*' A Gtrrn iti prince/* who, " wjghing to insipire his gon
iiiorror of war, ordered a paioLtir to repro-
I ut soena* of h l«lor>dy bflttlt\ Aiid to write
^Mw uom-^ jit tho bottom of the pictare: ^ Behold the
htttaafwnr! '"
^hat was hia name ? R Marshall.
SibdfQftL
"Oou's Baby/* — Is thi^ beautiful expreaaion
•ctiiilly in usu in London amoj]*:;' the lower
iTTilrvV ]^ ^j, Oeorge Macdonald'8 eiqui.HJte
At the Back of the NoM Wind^ it i*
, made to appear that such i^ the case,
•*inihe following ;—** » The cabbies call him God's
^%/ she whij»pered. * He's not ri^ht in the
1(1 \J^*^ '"^^'^- ^^ ^^^ loose.'"' (p. 187.) The
■ ■ ^nuin^ of the term is here supplied.
JAilRS BRITTK5.
I Sin Axn Dear Sir. — Some letters in my
jlon fir)m Isaac Maddox^ bishop of Wor-
\ dated the early part of the last century,
neiice with "Good sir.'* How long has the
^1 f.rni ♦* Dear *' prevailed in epistolary
In the Paston Letters the style
I resembles state documents of the
I hoy address each other aa'' Right
r " or *^ husband."
Tao^As E. WiyyiyoTOK.
LncES ON THE HcMAN Ear, — Where can I tnA
some clever lines which appeared in one of the
cheap periodicals of, say, some fifteen years back,
describing the functions of the human ear in the
shape of nn address of a father to his little daugh- '
ter, explaining to her how she heard St. Pancraa
bell ? E. L.
Til, Gloucester Tcrraccj Hydo Park,
George LoNDON.^This great ^rdener, founder
of the Brompton nureery, superintendent of the
Royal Gardens, Page of the Back Stairs to Queen
Mnry, thfj friend of Evelyn, and companion of the
Earl of Portland when Ambassador Extraordinary
to the court of P'nmco, died in 1713,* Can any
of your readers tell where ho was buried ? His
daughter Henrietta married Sir John Peachev,
Bart. J,
Macaplay's BALLAua. — The eighth and last
volume of ^^ The JVorks of Zord Mticatdtty icoui'
plet^)^ edited by his sister, Lady Trevelyan," and
published bv Longmans, Green, & Co. in 1800,
profeeties and is geu erally supposed to contain the
more approv*^d or popular portion, at least, of the
distinpruisbed author's poetry. I mis^ from this
coHectiou tho truly heroic ballad of " Tho Sieg©
of Rocbelle,'^ which, whoa I read it some thirty
years ngo (in my Canibridge days), 1 thought aa
good aa anv other lay or bFillad he ever wiotCi
« The Armada," ** Na^eby/* '* Ivrj*," and the best
of the Lays of Ancimt J^ome not excepted.
Neither is —
•-' Kochelle, our own Rochelle, \woma city of the waters,"
in the separate poetic volume in which the Romnn
and others of his heroic lays have been published
these HI any years*
Am I right in attiihuting this favourite of my ]
young days to Macaulay, and where can I renew
my acquMntance with it?
A thought hag struck me recently that it may
hnv^ been a joint production to whfch Praed lent
a hand, or some other of the brilliant Cambridge
eclectics w*ho commenced their literary career la
Charles Knight a Quntierbf.
The Kxionx of Inishowrk.
Janlor St. Jamc»*s Ctub, St. Jnmes'a Street.
Medical Orber of St, Joun.— Can any of
your correspondents, versed in the history of reli-
gious and charitahlu orders, give me any infor-
mation on the subject of the ** Medical Order of
S t John " ? This order is very cursorily mentioned
in Voltaire*8 Phihtophmtl Didmnmyj under the
heading ** Physicians,** a^s being founded by St,
Jean de Dieu, and aa being in some way con-
nected with the profession of nicdicine, .*Vnd
Fleury, in his Histoire eccf^sia^iqtie, gives an ac- |
count'of the life of St. Jean de Dieu, and of the
establishment of the order of the ** Brothers of
t* JtLURiy 12, 1713-14— ILD.]
236
NOTES AND QUERIES, t4«^i4.viLM4BciiW.7i*
Obarity" but makes no mention of its being
especially a medical order*
The queetionf" I wish answered are — Wns this
L« BtricOT medical order P Is it in existence at
['^resent r Does any otlier author give fuller infor-
V mation on the subject P Bkloiqub.
Mk^ixtng of ** Naocabotb," — Xn tbe Life of
Edward Lord Merheri, ©d, 1771, p. 161, w—'
** Evt?ry boat tied with a sma!l nhbnnd of a NAccnnnet,
l«r the coloor that the Knij^hU of the Batb ivcar, gave a
▼ery griicefiill mijcture," Ac.
Wbat was naccarine f E. H. Kj?0WLB8.
Kentlfrorth*
Paul V. and the Vknktiaks. — Will some
render of *' N. & Q,'* kindly refer me to a full
collation of Ibe —
** Controveraiic Memambiles later Pauluni V. Pontl-
I fioom ei Yenetoa . . * . , Iti Yilk SativJiicentiatia apiid
I'Paulum MarcislIaiD. Sittnptibus CaLdoreaDos Sodetatia,
I- Anno MDcrii."
Freytagr, in his Analecta (ed. 1750, p. 269),
^'gives the collation an part i. pp. 242; part ii.
pp, 276, in 8,
My copy agreea with the title-page as given by
Preytap, out the collation differe very consider-
ably. Part l, though not eo called, acreea with
Frejrtag", endiog with **Finia*- on p. 2i2 : its con-
tents ftlao apree with the index which follows the
general titlo (thero are no acparate titles for
parts I. and rr.) Part ri* consists of 672 pages,
and it« contend are all noted in ^neral index
with the exception of the last item ^ fliit<?en fttanxas
of Italian poetry, pp. 669*072. The pagination
of the index does not^ however, corres«poiid with
the firat four articles in part ii. ; the first of
which, e. g. " Card in alls Baronij Parrunesis/^ &c*,
ia paged 245, aa if it should he found in part i, ;
from p. l"**^, part ii., the index and pagination of
the part agree.
There are three tractates bound up in the vo-
lume, but they do not belong to the work as
above described. Adten Irvtnb.
Clerical Club, Dtiblin.
Pipe Roll, C Stephen. — Your correspondent
Nnotou, in his note on *' Herveus,*' quotes thia
KoU as the authority for one of hia atatements.
May I ask whether there be such a Roll ? Is not
this the Roll identified by Mr. Hunter as that of
31 Hen. L ? I put the question for information^ and
by no means as wishing to be regarded as myself
an authority, I should have known nothing pro-
bably of th'e matter, but for the suggestion of an
able,' byt now deceased, friend. W. M. H. C.
PuifOH-LAULE OF Qeoroe ITI,— I the other day
bought a silver punch -ladle with a gold seven-
shillmg piece Jet into the bottom of it. It bore
the cipher "'G, J?./' and an inscriptioa ^* Ex
dono Qeorgius lH. Optimo Regi 177»i,** and vn
the stalk the initials ^ ^ The bowl was rather
artistically embossed with the English rose ind
Scottish thistle in high relief j the naudle wiiof
ebony.
As I am informed by one who still recollect}
the days of George the Good that he was m tlie
habit of presenting such gifts to many person* be
took a fancy to, perhaps some of your readenmBj
be able to alfbru me a little farther infamuLdon
on the subject IL E
Portamoatb.
Sebjbajvt Salkhld.— -I am desirous to hm
some account of the ancestors and descendsoti of
Willism Salkeld. serjeant-at-law and reporter of
the King's Bench trom 1689 to 1702. I beliew
he came from Rock in Northumberland. W,
[Willinm Salkeld was descended fironi a vtrx afiofit
family ta Cumberland. The Salkelds posses
of Corbv, upon the attflinder of Audrcw dt
grant from Edward HI. to Richard die >
Afterwards came Hugh de Saikeld* John d
RjChord de Salkt-W. The latter diod 17 llenr^
last Thomas Salkold sold Corby to the Luni \v
Howard » third son of Thomas, great Duke of ^ i
Serjeamt Salkeld was bom at Fallodorf or FaUodwt it
Norlhumberlatidf in I670t and was the eldeit flos of
Samuel Salkeld^ E^q., of the same place. Thb&ttod
was of Fallodor and Swinhoc, near Newcastle, proHrtiM
which hi^ mm inherited. lie died intestate in 1589. Tht
Serjeant obtained Fifehead Nevil, iu Dorsetahire, by mi>
ria^e with Mis§ I2yve«!, an heiresf. He wa^^ edocttidii
Oxford, and ;tdmitCed a student of the Middle Temple oi
May 2» lf>9ir» and called to the Bar in 161»S, He did <«
Sept. 1-4, 1715, aged fortv-tivo or six, leaving thneiOBl
and three daughters : William, the poaaeBsor of Flf*hai4
died lEi 17>?2, unmarried. Robert was the iectMid too, wti«
married his first cousin, the dauj^hter of Jamai Salk«ki
the younp:er, brother of the aorjeanL Robert maifbL
secondly, Sarnh the widow of P. Ruffe, by whom bt kid
one Hon, Wnitam^ a physkian^ who married Sistlte
heth Palmer, one of Sir Joshua Reynolds'^ nienOL BSi
f^econd wife was Anne, the eldest ai^t^er of ilSNi
Clitberow, of Boaton HooAe, near Breotfoid. Charkiiite
youngest ?on of the aeijeant, is suppoaed to hav« bi'
€onn«*cted by marnage with the Rev. Charles SinMondlf
Cambridge. Thia Charle» had a daughter, whote ^
acendanta in Doraetahire possess a good share of !^
family pie^tures. The serjeant had three daughti i' ^
Mary, married (irat Edmund Gay, of Blandford j scr< ri ,
Thomaji Waters, of Blaudford, by whom abe had i ^
and three daughtem. 2. Elizabeth, married tb» fl^*
James Dibben, rector of Fontmell Ma^a. 3* Awnc, dW
unmarried in 1741. For other details of thin f»ail?t
consult Woolr^^ch's Livei of Eminent Srrjeunif-at'Laf
of the En^lUii Bar, 2 voW. 870, 1869, voL tL pp. 48S-
496.]
SicKX^ Botfe: Botse Monet. — Inileiifl
dated Oct. 23, 1^78, is a condition that tha tttDAst
is to find one "syde boyne " to cut c r-^ i> j-**
in autumn, for one day. Again, Feb,
corporation of thia borough ordered thiii utr-a . -
ants, who had uauuUy paid to the mayors ** boinft
\ mcmj&^)^^ %W\ild tb^teafter pay the saioa io t^.
4*8.vilma«ohi8.ti.] notes and queries.
237
mmyor^ for ever. Can &dj one explain tbe mean'
in^ of '* bojne" ? CttAitLES Jacksok.
TjiAPP*8 *^VrROiL.'* — ^What are tbe ment« of
th«j yfrotk ? I have never met with it, I httve
amongst mj collectiona the following anonymous
^fpigram :—
**Om hearing Glover* i Leonid^ compared ioVirgil.
** Like unto Virml 'tiis, perliaps;
But then, by Jove, 'tia DuHorTrapp**."
Tmpp was a verjr learned man, and if there was
my resemblance between bis style and that of
Oforer. lie cannot have been such a very bad
poet after alL Trapp lived at a time when blank
ver» was not mncn esteemed — when, in fact,
Fi^cbified jingliutj, miacalled heroic verse, was
the faahion,and Milton bad to auccumb to Boileau.
Tiapp must have been thoroughly acquninted
inta his author. Whether he hW sufficient
^aetic. genius to tranBinute Maronian hexameters
into the blank veree of Shakspeare and Milton is
uhat 1 should like to know. Perhaps some
iwder of **N* & Q»" will obli^^ by aeuding an
fitiact— say twenty or thirty Ijnes— from one of
tile eclogues. Blank verse i^oema the proper me-
^um for hexameters and pentameters.
SiEPttKN Jacksou,
[Another version of th« epigram on Glover's LwrndoM
Mi M follows r —
*• Eqasl t4> Virgil ? It may perhaps,
But then, by Heaven, 'tis Dr, Tmpp's."
! IfttioQ oiThe^mid of Virgil ioto blank
I'd ia 1717, in two vola, 4to, is in littk c#ti-
amuori, unn is s complete failure as a work of art. Dn
^vboon olwenai that ♦* Trapp's bix>k may continue its
ttOiteDOC aA long: a^t it is the clandestine refuge uf $chool-
W»." It ii '* indifforently executed/* remarks John
SkljoW In 1758 Dr. Warburlon was thus compH-
•^"•r ! for his "Dissertation on the Sixth Book of
■ Sure, in that Hell which you designed,
i'l - vile of ev*ry kind ;
%x \'i ell deserve a place,
)s* r should find, nor gprace.
Tr . those re^lniB should hold,
^\^ . I roas instead of gold.
Chief, lhM*e who thy brigbt Muse di^^sce,
And hide with staiun her bc^ut^ous faoe.
Th«re crerping Laoderdate should lie,
Giid TuMpp, and murdering Ogilby/' •]
WiTcnES. — ^Tbe ladies of Lanca-
n of and toasted aa ** Lancashire
C nder what sobriquets do the gallants
iglish counties celebrate the beauty of
^urir (nr t-nalaveTs? Pekstoktensis.
TVooDciTT IiriTiiX Lettees. — Can any of the
DOOGipoiideiita of *' N. & Q." inform me who was
ftftdengxifir and who the engraver of the initial
lltets (many of which are verv beautiful) to
bs chapters in Whitakera Rickmondshirt and
• Tbrse tfanslatora of Vir^l.
Leeds f Many of these are views of places in
Yorkshire which are easily recognised, but it
would be interesting to know the whole, and it is'
to be hoped that in the new edition which is pro*9|
mtsed an index of their names will be given.
G. I). T.
Hudderalield,
GAINSBOROUGH'S "BLUE BOY.**
(4*^ S. m, 570 J iv» 23, 41, 80, 204, 237 ; v. 17, 35.)
Since this subject wns last before your readersi
(Jan. 8, 1870), and created a widespread in-
terest, much progress has been made towards
settling the question as to which of the two
** Blue Boys '^ is the original picture, and thereby '
entitled to tbe ** blue riband'' of the fine arts."
With your approval tbe subjec' will be resumed '
and eompletud.
Amongst your contemporaries who have com-
mented on the facts disclosed in your columna,
The Queen * concludes an interesting article, ^
accompanied by a sketch of the " Blue Boy **1
printed in colours, with the following pertinent^
remarks : —
** Until last year," saya The Quetn^** tbe fact that there -
were two ' Blue Boya * was not generally known. But, as J
now-a-duys there ii always souiething' new turninj^ up,j
or some aitick of faith ruthleasly swept away, the W«st*
minatar ^filae Boy* is net exempt from what appears to
be a general rule^ The qucjiition aa to which of them
the original aud which the replica has been argued with
^rcat f^pirit in our contemporary, Notes and Qttrrie$,
For many years thsMaffjuis of Westminster'^ picture 1
been tbe'uachallfloged claimant of the oripnnJ honours j
but at the conversazione of the Insatitotiou of Ciiril Engir"
nccrs in 1867, after a lifetime's obscurity, a second * BluoJ
Boy' formed one of tbe works of art lent for exhibition,^
amd the second claimant baa been pronouuced by com-
petent jndgea to be a very fine work of art.**
Here it will usefully refresh the memory to
quote tbe conclusions formerly arrived at. On
September 18, 18G9, they were —
** That the * Blue Boy ' which was in the posaeasion of
Mr. Hoppncr, R*A*, if not the one now in tbe posaessioa
of the Marriuifl of Westminster ; that it is more likely td
be the one whii^h was the property of the late Mr. liall^
its exhibited at the rooversazione of the Institution c'
Civil Engineers in 18G7 ; that if one of the two * Blu
Boya ' baa been ct>pit;cl from the other, it is the Wa-i^J
luinsier one, which is a copy of the rival picture ; i
that if both pictured are Gaiuiborough'a, then the 1g
known one is the finest work of art.""
And on January 8, 1870 —
" That the infcrenoes formerly drawn in favour of ih«^
least -known Blue-clad have been virtually con iirmc<l
subsequently received facts ; that the original * Blue BoyJ ,
aa well as several other Blue-clada, were, in all proba*^
bilitv, palut€d before, and not qflw, the deUvery of Siyl
Joshua Reynolds's cold-colour discourse in Dece;ca\y«^
1778 ; that it is probable ibe ongmai " B\^^ ^^^^ -^ftaaft^
* AVtVV«0,V«I^.
238
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4* s. tii. mabcs k,-;u
I
4lrect fjrom Galosboroa^h't ttailio to the gallerjr of
Georgre rrtooe of Wales, iflerwards GcorA^o IV.; that, at
anv rate, U belonged it one time to the rrince, and was
by' him sold to John Nesbitt, Esq., M.P*; that the verj'
remarkible coincidence betweea the enrly de9criplit>n of
the picture in Mr. Ncsbitl'a poswaaion (by Mr. VvVsr
Coxe), and the recent deacription of the leait-kiiowii
*• BJue-clad" (by Mr. R. J. Ijtnt, AJi,A,) la preffumftbly
dud to tlieir aciually referring tu the same picture ; that
about lS06,lf not prefioui^y, two *Blufl Boya' appcftr, uf
which the original was in lloppner'i^ care, and the nn-
known one in the Grofl\'enor colicction; and that there
ore c}[ceUent reaiioni for now reeognisiog the lca«t*known
* BItic Boy * as the saine picture which wai auccessively
the propertr of (or was, held by) ILK.H, (;eor^ Prince
of Wales, 3ohn Neabitt, Esq. M.P., and John lloppoer,
Esq.. R.A-"
80 far aa we know, tliese concluBiona h&xQ not
been controverted Ijj a single fuct ndvanced Rgaioat
them, altliougli tbo will to rebut thera has not
been wanting-. On the contrttry, further dia-
coTeiies and closer exatninationa of both picturefi
have Tirtunlly established them.
For example, as regards the origin of the
'* Blue boj, it appear* it was painted in 17D9
and cxhibiled in 1770, to confute, as it did auo-
cesafollY, Kejnulds* depreciation of Gaitisboxougb'g
skill in pnrtraiture^ geveral years before the cold-
colour axioniH were launched Qgaiiiat the successful
picture and itj^ pjtinter.
To Mr, Joseph Hogarth, the well-known and
respected veteran in wbrka of art, Mount Street,
Gptiavenor Squftr<>, we are indebted for the in-
formation that the portrait in a Vandyke dress
-which achieved for Gainsborough so great a auc-
C6M at tho R. A. ill 1770* was the *' Blue Boy/'
and that it was the picture of which Miss Mary
Moser eaid, **Gnin»borough beyond himseltV
This diK^overy throws a iiood of new,, if less
pleaaant, light on the policy of Reynolds towards
Gainsborough ; but this interesting subject must,
for the present at leasts be deferred.
It also atldd much weight to the trfidition,
which it ia said the late Mr. Turner, It. A., was
dispoeed to believe, that the original '* Blue Boy "
represented a youth connected with the Molyneux,
now the Sefton family; for Gainsborough ex-
hibited the portrait of" Isabella Lady Molyneux
the previous year. Tbij lady had two brothers —
Viscount Petersham, then sixteen, nnd Henry
Fitzmv Stftnhope, a younger one, sons of a soldier
of high distinction— Earl Harrington. Now, one
of these youths may have been the model boy^ nnd
thus account for th'u tine military attitude of ease,
grace, and elegance, "as if to the manner bom,*'
which so prominently distinguishes the least-
known ** Blue Boy '^ over the rival picture, as the
best judges tell us.
Moreover, the *' Blue Boy " was p«mted at Batb,
^^ thnt jt is more probable one of the youthful
^/stocnts who vMted (iai/i5boP0Ufh*B studio in
• Ftdcher^M Lift ^/GaimMborouffft, p. 70.
that city became the niodel boy, than that thei
eon of a London ironmonger did so/
From a pedigree point of view, two important
discoveries have been made which practically
complete the hiatorv of the least-known *• Bluo
Boy " as the original picture. They are (1) that
Nesbitt, the owner of the original'** Blue Boy,'*
in the beginning of the century, had the pio
ture with him at Heston between *1815 and ifeo,
where it seems to have been a well-known pi©-
ture, and V2) that Hall, m long the owner of
the least known *' Blue Boy," purchased it as the
original, with it^ pedigree complete, the Prince (rf
Wales portion included, and used the infonnatiott
thus obtained, no doubt from Nesbitt, as autho-
ritative proof for stating openly on every oppor-
tunity that bis was the original'** Blue Bc»v/' wid
the (jroavenor picture only a copy of it. ' Iltiri.^
statement, it is said, reaclied the' notice of iisH
late Marquis of "Westminster, and led him t<y^
make inquiries about the '* Blue Bov*s " history,
as if there was a loose screw, from ilr. Ko^er%
the poet and collector of works of art, aonur
twcuty-two years ngo. In connection with thir'
matter, there is an incongruous ** Blue Boy *'
fathered on Rogers, which we would like to _
if any of your readers ever heard him menl
It ia, that Rogers bought the original **j .
Boy " at a sale, let Honpner have it to copr, ii»^
thatlloppner dtshonoraMy and sun-entitiousfysold
the original to Earl Grosvenor— a libel doubtlcas
on both gentletneo, as it is known to be on Hopp-
ner, who did not sell the original " Blue Boy to^
Karl Grosvenor. To us it appears to be mersly f
perversion of facta, having nothing whatever to d<
with the original *' Blue lioy," put forward as i
forlorn defence of the damaged pedigree of tin
best-known **Blue Boy; '' but if wrong we will
be glad to be corrected.
Briefly tbe^e facts are:— (I.) Rogers^ much en-
joyed and spoken about purchase of " Pock " by
Reynolds— not the "Blue Boy" by Gainaborotigh—
at a sale, where Lord Farnborough and Dance tbi
painter were with him, after having all break
fa^sted at his residence; and (2) the quarrel b*
tween Rogers and Iloppner, not about the **Blue
Boy,'^ but an Artist whom the former desired K^
become a member of the Council of Trent Cbib,
but was strongly opposed by the latter, wha
bitterly reproached Rogers for this de^re, which*
led Rogers to say of Iloppner, ** He has an awfitl
temper — the most spiteful person I ever knew."
I eo-
tak-H
be-fl
Rhie T
• A fool- note of dubioas origin In Kdw ' " ^
n/"Pu infer* appears to be the suleattth^T
name of Buttcll, ctthur sji the modef or ti
orij;in«l " Jiloc \ki\\*^ But this nii^hi have bfin sdil<d
lifter the death of Edwards in December, 1h<m»v m<S trb«ii
lliCi wfttk was j:;oinff through the pres$ i " ~ ' i.nf-
cqtAvti'^ 1q V\v«! \jti>*"S;eTv?^t ^aWvtv %ttt< r pie-
i«^s.vu-M.*Kciii«,»7i.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
239
But to return to Hall : it is cert&m tHftt lie was
proud of Ilk ** Blue Boy " on account of his rojal
otitecedentfl, wlucli he took core ahould be known,
until the picture acquired the title of the IVince
of WaUn porlratt atnooff those about hitn, and
waa «!-» catiihjp'aed afttT nia death. In this way
the dead wiw u a wittingly made to bear evidence
that when living he knew well that the picture
had once belonged to the Prince of Wale**, and
oontequently that it was the celebrated original
*• Blut* Boy/' well worth 1500/, to keep and not
to aell.
Another and a satiafactoTT proof of the origi-
nalitT of the lea«t-known ** Blue Boy ■ * appeared at
the Winter Exhibition of the Rnyal Academy in
the form of a very line Gainsborough, Tecently
rulucd for legacy duty at 1500/. It is No. 102 in
Uus CttUlogue, and is a companion picture to the
lewt^kuown ** Blue-clad/' in the de&cription of
Cfnras used» in the very thin but brilliant water-
cr>WTr*like ?*tyle of painting bo characteristic of
I's portraits painted at Bath, and even
I hi -pi an, the picturea differing Jittle
try for the poaitiona and dresseB
: St pictme, aa it may be calied, contains
aits of the Countess of Sussex and her
1. Lady Barbara Yelverton, afterwards
de Kuthyn, aa lent for the Exhibition
— ^te?s of London,
1y a century ago Gninsborough ex-
..x.o very picture at the Royal Academy
tkw year after he had exhibited the *'Bhie Boj,"
tlivn'Torp a similarity of materials and " hand-
' might be expected and is found.
bv this test, the Groavenor **Blue Boy "
iks a Gainsborough. The canvas is dif-
'^ vehicle different, the painting thicker^
le58 delicately managed, and the
-iisappoiDting,
iie least-known " Blue Boy" by the
:dies, and they will have met^ per-
re tkaa their match in general attracti ve-
in materials and execution they would
well-matched pair, to prove a common
iiy. in a very convincing mimner,
ding with the history of the " Blue
as well to give a deacriptioQ of
and the chief ditierencea he-
of these differences have been
^^ .1 Limns, bat the exhibition of the
i'lue Boy" last year at the Koyal
' .1 Bubsequently at South Kensington^
"nahied a satisfactory comparison of the two
sito be made by competent judges.
leivottT* to bring about a public Aide-by-side
^thm between them have failed, owing to
"nam of the best-known ** Boy " to enter
* Maioat the other.
flsrvnee I a the ehades of the blue colours
of the chivalrous young athletes of Oxford and
Cambridge, who annually contend for the **Blu&
Riband ** of rowing, ia well known ; and as witli
theae colours, so with the two pictures — one of
them presents a darker and older appearance than
the other. They might therefore ht^ distiDguished
as Liffht Blue and Dark Bine.
But there ia a depth and delicacy of light and.
shade about the older-looking picture which ia
not found on the other; and the colour on the
figure of the former, if ever bright blue, has mel*
lowed pleasingly in a ffreaiuh direction. On the^
younger-looking ** Boy'* the colour is paler and
has a hardness, which gives the picture, as Allarr
Cunningham said, *'a somewhat startling" first
imnraaaion character.
Connoisseurs might therefore prefer to call the
lighter picture the *♦ Pale Bine But/,^^ as Leslie did
when writing about it, and the dju-ker one th©^
'* Grem Blue Bmj,-* as it has been designated.
The LigU or Bale *' Blue Boy ** belongs to the
Marquis of Westminster, is a well- known picture,
and has a sight size of 70 inches by 48 inches.
The Dnrk or Grctti **Blue Boy'* has a sight
size of 71 i inchea by 50^ inches, but owing to
the misforlunea which befel its owner in lS02j.
and drove both into obscurity, it is now compara-
tively little known.
Modem descriptions of and eulogiums on the-
Groavenor ** Blue Boy '* are well known and need
not be epitomised here. It is otherwise, however,
with the green '* Blue Boy,^' now seen to be the
original; therefore it is proposed to quote two
descriptions of the original^ when it waa known
as such, and some of the green ** Blue Boy," com-
parative and otherwise.
The earliest description of the original " Blue
Boy" yet met with haa appeared, but may be
repeated. It was written in 1803,^ by Mr. Peter
Ooxe, for Nesbitt's sale, and is as follows : —
** Nt>.63.— (Jflinsbomuj[;h, — A whole-lenfrth Fif^uro with
a fine Limlseape in Iho Bflckgroiiml. This most incom-
parable perf«rinftncc ranks thia Tcr}- celtbratetl Master
amonfj the tiwt class of Pnintirj^/ both Ancient and
Moiitro. It bos the Grace and l^ilejcriince uf Vaa Dyck in
the FLjLfun?,witb a Counlcnaace a* I'yreibly expressed and
as rich as Miirillo, with the man a ffement'of Titian. It is
a picture which cannot be too highly spoken of or too
much admired.''
The green '* Blue Boy " shows that this is not
only not exaggerated praise, but hardly does jus*
tice to the present rich ripe attractiveness of the
life-lilce presence on the canvas.
The second description yet seen of the original
" Blue Boy " was written by Edwards Id 1800^
about four years after NeebitVs sale, when Ho^ip-
ner was still the holder of the picture for Keshitt,
whose affairs were not settled until about 1815,
As an echo of the title under which the ** Bluer
Boy*' was catalogued in 1770, this deecription 19
at once bistoricarond highly laudatory.
240
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Edwards dedcribes the picture as " A whole-
length portrait of a youDg gerjtlemftn " — exactly
as catalogued in 1770—" in a Vandyck dress' ^ — aa
explained in 1770 by Miaa Mo«er —
** Wliich has obtained the title of the * Blue Boy ' from
tlie aoloar of tb« satin in wtdch the fi^re ia drcaaed It
ii not exaggerated proiM to say this picture might stand
amon^ those of Vandjxk. It is now in the possession of
Mr. Hoppncr, R.A.'*
This 8how3 conclusively that whatever "Blue
Boy " the first Earl Groevenor, who died in 1802,
did purcbaae, it could not be the original picture
which, four years afterwarda^ waa in the hands of
Hoppner,
So far aa we know, that hijprh, if not highest
of linn^ authorities on Gainshorough-a '* hand-
writing," R. J, Lane, Esq., A,R,A., was the next
to express, in 184iO^ an opinion on the green, or
I original " Blue Boy,** This opinion has appeared
liD your pages, but with a sent en ee nccia^nlally
omitted (about the colouring) which is now sup-
plied : —
*' I Iiavi*^" says Mr. Lane, " farafally examined the
picture (the green BIue'Clfl<3.) The figure ijj more ele-
Stnt Lhau the Grosvcnor picture — the colouring clearer—
e chflraoter of the fttce far mure pleasing — the minut^'at
touches of the suhordinate parU palpably Gainahro's."
Like Mr. Coie, who wrote sixty-seven years
previous I J, Mr. Lane selects the elegance of the
figure and the beauty of the face for special
I praise, and well they merit it.
Ilear^ abo, what an able art critic, commenting'
on the facta which appeared in '* N. & Q./' and
who carefully examined the ** Green Blue '' be-
I fore he wrote, savs in The Graphic ' about the green
'^BlueBo/s"fkce;—
" If,*' says the critic^ " this newly-diacovered * Blue
Boy * IS not by Gainsboroogh, by whom if* it ? Who
could imitate the wouderfal bravura^ Who could have
niade the red blood glow tlirough ibofte brown cheelsu ?
Who could vivify those intelligent eyes ? The face is too
gTaceFul for Wilson the |Kjrtrait- pa inter. It is beyond
vhat Hoppuor could have done ; oa for Beechy, he only
imitated Gmii^borough's landscapes. Is this Mooud * Blue
Boy * to reinaiu an endlcas crwa^ for modem art edtics ? "
Ko, the puxzle is solved in favour of ^' Green
Blue," and of his face it may be fairly said—
"'Ti» beauty truly blent* whas*5 red and whit«
Gains bro*M own cuHiiing hand kid on."
The following artistical comparison of the two
*'Blue Boys ^* by a good judge speaks for itself —
« London, Jan. 1870.
" GAmsBOROCOH's »Bldb Boy/— Having seen by
The Timtt that the Weatminater * Blie Boy ' wia at the
K. Am I went to see and examine it, &» I bad pr^vioiuly
seen and examined the other picture^ whi{!h hai;, I may
say, both the body and soul of Gainsborough. I certainly
was disappointed at the WeMmiu»ter picture^ for I could
not perceive those qualities in sucli perfectiou in it as in
ihe other pkfture. The manipulation in it h weak, and
the touch not ao free and decided as in the other, Iha
^Jyecwnber ld» 1869.
blue i5 crude (Allan Cunningham said rather wLartK
wo) and the fohU of the dresa cripply, which certainly giw
an idea of a copy of the oilier picaure by a tolerably good
artist* There ia also another sign of their not^"""*^"
painted by the same artiat^ which is, in the oatun
vehicle used. I coiuider the other picture (the I
Blue Boy ') contains the perfectiou of C
colour, vehicle, touch, and mind, which
cannot dL<?cuver in the Westminster pictaro.
they had been hun^ together, any connoisneiir who <iM t
know which was which would nave taken the other I
the ori^nal and the Weatminater picture for a id
good copy of it.**
A high authoritji after more than one ei
tion of both pictures, recently escpreaeed as
conclusion in these words: —
» I have closely examined the Groavencir * Blue Bof A
South Kensington, and I am firmly impresaed by iUgi»t
infenonty to the other * Blue Boy* in grnoe andelicinee
of form and feature a-^ well aa In delicacy of fobwv 1
think that the qualities which I ol»- < olhrr
picture are strong eri<lence of its origr ^Ji»i 'f
the two piciurt:a could be put side bj.
would be maintained*"
Decided as both tbeae opiniona are in fiifOWil
'* Green Blue," it can scarcely be doubted that % '
would be fully confirmed by the puhlic gtnsi
and the Groavenor ^^Blue Boy *' ne deemed I
comparatively a meaner-looking and Ibm-A
Uve picture.
Still more recently a connoisaeur of high E
tation as a judge of painters* handwriting-
correapondent of yours of many years* sU
who took much interest in the former ditf
went with a friend to see and criticise th» ^
Blue Boy,'* The result was warm praise^ 1^
arrived at the conviction that the picture wii I
far the finest Gainaborough he had ever seen, «
he would venture to say the finest of his wo^j
existence, as it strongly reminded him of i
cla^g Velasquez.
In conclusion, at present the artistic t . ,
of the *' Green Blue Boy** may be summed*
not at all inaptly, as
*' Perfected lovdinesa. All the harroonici
Of form » of feature^ and of soul dwplayed.
In the bright crtaiion'^
X SkwiU-
The Lombard, E,C.
BRITISH SCYTHED CHARIOTS; IymS.MAS
(4^»> S, vii. 95.)
Mr. Trollope*8 not© in his edition of C^
Ctrnimm^orw*^ denying the truth of the ati
typed statement that the ancient BritOM r
their war charioU with mfthfa^ ^er^ -■
thoroughly discussed before being a
rect. In the first place, we have the of
Richard of Cirencester, who says : —
*^ T\ie. "ftnX^Ta xwaH. <ssi^^ l^niq^ <kl foot and^ooj
#» & VIL Uabgb 18, 71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
241
■a Gftllie maimer. ThoM cb&riota to the vcle-treei of
which tcyth^M were fixed were called covini or wains,"
This passage 1 ouote from Dr. Gilea'a edition of
Six Old EnglUh Chro/Ucks (Bohn, Londoo, 1806),
who appeads tlie followiDg note : —
"The Britons, however, appear to have devised an im-
piDrement in thia mode of warfare, which wa& unknown
to the Greeks. Their ebarioLs seem to have been of two
khtds— the corini or wainei, heavy and armed with scythe,
ti hf«ak the thickest ordpr of the enemy; and the
m lighter klod^ adapted probably to «ituatioi)« and
M ill which the evvmi coald not act, and
performing duties of cavalry.'*— P. 426.
Dr Giles does not aeem to doubt the veracity
«f Richard of Cirencester, althou^'U in hia preface
Iw rejects other of his productiona as valueless ;
bat to that on the *' ancient state of Britain/^ from
which I have made the Above extract, he attaches
tome importance.
Mr. irollope of course can select whom he
pleases to vent his displeasure upon; but in jus-
tice to the excellent Mrs. Markham, and abo the
much-honoured Eugt^on 8ue, I cannot refrain from
fltpr^'saing my astonishment at thia kind of fair
ttfcction, whereby he proceeds to disabuse the
jKjjniUr mind of the so-called delusion. Surely
w oijpbt to have castigated Richard of Cirences-
t'lr and his En^'lish editor, but io doing this he
TT^ ulil have to encounter another excellent au-
tlwtitv, who 18 equally guilty of this just dis-
•weted crime. Sfr. Francis Palgrave, in his
Buton/ of Enffitmd (Anglo-Saxon period)^ says,
h speaking of tlio valour of the ancient Britons : —
"But the valour of the Britons was displayed on land;
ifc<7 irrre brave and sturdy warriors ; and when they
^*iit furtii tt» a>mbat they rode in chariots with blades of
tixod to the axle-trees of the whedji. Engaged in
' . ihcy urged their horses to their ntmoat speed, and
i^r (harp edgvt of the icythes mowed down the enemy/'
N- i^Lejr Tacit ua nor C^sar notices the scythed
i ■ I ts, hut it does not follow that there were
■ m use at one time.
i mnnt imajTine that three distinct authorities
^'^^dM4 Mrs. Markham and Eugene Sue could
j^Te been led into one common mistake, unless
|t can be proved that all the modem writers have
Wii midled by RLchatd of Cirencester, who of
<!*UT>* must be shown to be in error. The onm
task devolves upon Mr. Trollope. I am
■ bat many will feel extremely grateful to
^ should ho undertake this ; none more so than
J, Jeremiah, J vis.
^ COMPLETION OF ST PAULAS CATHEDRAL.
(4^ S. vii. 185,)
I obBerve id '* N. & Q." that a rumour — only a
^our, I hope — as to the intended ajran^ment
^^th regard to the oj^gMt At St P^uVb Ca^edraJ
is referred to as a matter for extreme satisfaction :
^* the position of the organ has been decided aa
oaly it should have been.*' It is to stand, we are
informed, agaiast the blank walls where now
stand the Nelson and Com wall! s monuments.
To say that the ultimate success of all future
operations in this work depends upon the position
of the organ — as if folks were to go to church to
hear the organ, or listen to the music — is too
ridiculous; but setting aside this question, it la
quite sufficient to condemn the project if the
architectural effect it will produce is considered.
A large sum of money has been expended in
the purchase of a powerful organ » and m placing
it in a good position acoustically. Now it is
coolly suggested to do away with all this, and
using up the materials of the choir and transept
organs, to make one tnighty wholei which is to ba
placed in the narrowest part of the cathedral, so
as to make that which is already far too fimall
considerably less.
I am sure that no lover'of organs would desire
that Father Smith's venerable instrument, which
witl^ its recent ttdditions is a very perfect and
beautiful work, should be engulfed by the tran-
sept organ, ex(!ellent as that may be ; and when
we read of "considerable additions" — the twa
instruments together, without additions, wotdd
give us eighty stops at least — the practical quea-
tion of the amount of room such a leviathan
would occupy becomes very important
As I have alresdy remarked, the position said
to have been selected is that point at which the
main avenue, running through the cathedral from
east to west, is most ctmtracted. It is there little,
if at all, over forty feet in width. No amount of
piling up, even to the springing of the roof, could
reduce the organ itself to a less projection than
^"^^ feet from the wall, and this on both aides
would reduce the centre passage by some ten
feeti leaving for the communication between a
dome of over one hundred feet in diameter^ and a
choir more than forty feet in width, a restricted
opening probably not thirty feet wide.
IIow exceedingly bad this is, I need not point
out. Your correspondent b of opinion that two
choirs are necessary for the services of the cathe*
dral, and I quite agree with him ; but I do not
think we are at all of the same mind as to how
this arrangement should be etfected.
I have gone into this question very thorfjughly,
but will not occupy your columns by repeating
here what it fullj entered into bv me in conjunc-
tion with Mr, J, T. Micklethwaite in the first
number of The Sacrisfy, to which I would refer
Y. C. E. SoMERS Clakke, Juf.
3, Delahay Street, Great George istreet.
[ By reference to The Tinwi ol W ei\^MAav \asS. \N.-wa.
be seen that Y. C. K was coTWftt m ^wa %vaU!«im\.\^Vft
the deciaion with regard to tVk^ tutg^su— ^t»r\
iUlES A3a> QCERIEa
#^s.rn-;
(4F & Ly if -y Y^ fl
id 4m thmm m4i^ i
Bmh'^ K«. 2. flod Um mtM of OililM » Ajr-
Mi»; wM# 01, IteioBi \m abofm (4» a n.
4i8) Ito '^WMimtS^ ef tU flftOMW sot ^
yMAj fiskt 414 ^i«t in Ui« dxtanili eeirtiiff
fai m fiHjffcb4iififiir pmili of CMrfHra*. Not t
fMtlft of yrooC \am \mm*fAAmaA to iiifplr t^e
which Ibe oHgiiMl iMU «m Hid to bAro been
wXUt^htA, Th# pbraMology la whbb tbcHe deed«
^^.. ... ' t^^nii^j, uDd |t|« iMOMa of Ibe poitlefl coQ-
4*'* H, L Am\ oonrinoe m« tb^t ^bey
ft: a«, if indeed ih«y eirtr eri«t*d m fic-
iirm>i, Jf io, ibo Mftli go too. But eti^n ib^ee
v*m\)%m iriteTnul tridAoco of tb«1r wortbleAeneia.
J did not m»mtlon It lit tlio time, but remarked to
fjty*clf tb<5 curi'iuii way in which the legend of
ijftch *' mut " mipplie/i nom^ithinff wanting^ in the
lithnr, Thun tbi* hnt in, **H' WilcJmi , '*; th«
\^tmA irt, *^ S* . * . . lti>ffHr '* ; kwA th« third, the
ctitjou* ion*», blttx«* forth in ftill— ** 8* W , . , ,
Mil/' TliM " unknown " nifirMifivctnrfT of
_ J hiu b«c«n ftn ivilnut fit bin Irnrkv Yut Mr; IL
r^n^ nvlib'nily had drMibtn nf tln;ir authenticity,
im I nrfiiiirrl our. in my Ilrwt nommunirntion,
Mit J, ('. lti>nKi(ii'i tUMcrtion tbiit l>mchar
[^ fdfjcnd " n coat of anna for tb<J rovi^nMid jinrish
IjnlnUtor of noninfj, ii ncarndy wiirrnnlahle.
['** Kor^fin^ a rorii" I tiik« to niraM, R*^«+^rliri^' that
ill wnw ronftTHMl nl mchiiu inytkiral period, or for
[iotiio njylldcMl I'Xploit, or m\ Moino ivpUtious
] ftnctmtEir of iu wiini'itr* but hnm^Mtly ** miikinf? up''
\ n*^w www \n ti vrry dillrnrnL thinj?. The tfiste of
[ imd) n |ii'or*sndin^ ninv bo iinntbiir qni?i*tion ; but
1 in ibt* (Hilly part of tun pruNtnit t^'ntury tln^ Ljon
I OtUro itni'lf tiorp«*trak'd niiiny g^rii'VoiiM bUmders^
[known lo tnu uuliifclod nti ** rrineo H«>^ent'^
IhiTftldvy, nnd Ihvudinr dimply fiiUowod in their
Viiko* * I qiiitt^ i^rrnn witU Mit, lloriKU in hia
•Htimnto of wonm af tbi««o bnoicK, nnd am rntht>r
ftmiinml lit hii* infornmtiou thnt tko cont wkifb we
hnvn bfiim iH^ioUHning br\4 bi*ou iippropriatod by
thu lat0 Hl(wtcow w*K>d-niort.'hant of ibt? nftinu,
lfvhi» probiibly ktu'W n«>tllin^^ wtid can-d less, about
i' iiih d) tir«t woim^r^ ** Sir William/*
AxuLo-ScoTra.
• i//i* iM«itfnifir**<iti<in muit dat« It.— Ki>, •*!*♦ 4 Q,*
OOSXELI.
m (TOonMlTii
base wid Ceitir
flHK|osiif or u» ■iiibiii^ of D^«i(rcoBBdr«
DAtif^ «o«al^f I baoir toj «d UiaI be wm tbi
direct ud muDedkte di <r>wdint of m htf ^
EagUfib nee, tbnio^ wbora be ~ ~
blood of JeaHn Dmiray sod Edmsid Bi
betbaa mideitiifcert (mI oImiv I belieme; t
of Sir James Wan tiJie oUarX au^ wu not yetf
diaiafiOr related to a iifimber of jMflo-IfiitL «a<i
Piotestant f&mUiet io Mnniler at tba pnaeat dftT.
in Cfonelly*! Eidary ^ £le GmMaU^ aad in ill
otber publkhed genedogiea of the OITomuil
£amily that I bare erer aeera, it is diitisefly
stated, that the great-great-graDdmotber
Daniel O'Connell was a member of the i
Norman family of Segrare, and that bis ^
grand miither wW Elizabeth Conwav^ the plti^ '
dautfiitBr of a CapLedn Jamas Gonwaj, wbof
to Kerry after the Restoration, and
Elirabtith Boe, the only child and h^
I-]dmund Roe, of Clo^^hane, County Ke
above-mentioned undertaker* Edmund
married tho only dauj^hter of Jenkin
whoi'e casth of Killorglin, granted to
Elisjabeth, with 5,200 acres, including the 1
idland of Innisfallen, is mentioned in
Hibernm, I doubt if a single instance cojild l«
brou^^ht forward by the mo^t enthusiastic
learned admirer of the Irish '* pure Celt," of c
onf" man of that race who achieved real |
in literature, science, art, political or ra
The jj-reat men of Ireland have been
mixed race — the irreateat, as Swift, Goldstt
Wellington, &c., have had but a v<?rj si
share of Celtic blood, if any at all. This h i
the aasettion of nartial bigotry regarding race {
creed ; it is simply the statement of a fact 1
to the calm iai partial observer who 1
Ireland and the Irish, I admit that in fori
times the Irish Celt was heavily and un
weighted in the race for fame, but it is long fi
his last and least bunlen has been removed, w
yet he is still behindhand; while the «DeJ^*
bearing a Celtic name of whom the Irish
iTO TStfftX '^vsMd^ ^lortiog in him as their r
' milita
thel
i««S. VIL Mamcu 18.
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
243
r«entatiTe roan — *'Imli/' sayB Mr. Lenlhan "in
erery element of his being, head, heart, blood 1 **
is no "* pure Irnh. Celt" at all— but, there lasmaU
,i.,»iT.* inherited his clear-headednesp, foresiji^ht,
.1)lo cuc-rgT, and perEeverance, from the
s... .'mewhatiinscninulous Elizabethan under-
lukors and Kentish and Yorkshire oolonists of
and in the sixteenth century. 11.
Il^ft
Dji. JonKso>'s Watch (4*** S. vi. 27o, 405;
'"^ii. i>5,) — This watch is in my po^^seapion. My
mother was niece to the si&ter of George Steevens,
which sister inherited this watch with the rest of
G«?r*re Steerens'a property. It is a metal watch
with a tortniseabell case j no maker's name. The
dial is inscribed, as mentioned by Boawoll, with
tbe words n'( Tap *px*^«*, " for the night cornel b.'^
Biitwell snya the dial-plate WBa given to Steevens*
h »p«'tn.'f tsnlikely that the dial should be separated
• • doctor's watch, to which it OTidently
i. and which was worn by bini. The
1 has inside the case the words *' Samuel
LundoD, 17/^4." It was in December,
it J*ibnsi->n died. Jahes Pycroft.
u Jnu. 20, 1871.
IV,.. v^rot that thi« reply has acdd en tally heen de-
Stamp ok Pjcttbe Ca5tji8 (4*** S. tii. 97,
105.}— \Vhat occurred, to my recollection, will be
f„.,i ;., ;j,d 8, V. 141, 1804, on '* Stamp Duties
rs* CanTOS," by J, PL Burn, in answer
. . . .. Miiritmicatiou under the game heading in
I f* S» V, iM», from L. F. N., where the excise mark
r u d\>ri in letterpres?, and not as an engraving,
f^tdted at p. lOo. Albbbt BuTTERY,
Chancery,
nbtlffcdby thbcorivction, Tn t^e fiflh rolamfl
I Scrie* will be found a ijucrr by I* F. N. as
TuA during which paiutern' canvfttei were
Tht^ w»s answered by JIa. J. 11, Burn at
- Ataiiffi, butTery incorrectly, thatihi^ proctice
in 1S03, and that any picture pAiotc^l on
invfts purporting to bo painted by Gnitis-
vimblu could not therefore bej.^t'nujne j btit
t in itating that the order for the no ti-
ll uty wan issued on March IT, 18G1, In
i'^ (p, 182) J. K. S, write* to show that
. frvm Ju»v2a, 1712-13, to March 183L—
I ?SnTrs = CRUxraES (3'* 8. vii, 47S ; viii. 178,
" i_When I introduc^.^ this subject to
IS of " N, & Q/' some little time ago. I
d a pft«ag© from Kit ^farlowe, in which the
stil/M was used synonymously with crutches.
' iL* to give an earlier instance, from
Jairnh of Annftthin^ printed by
«ui ^■y^^l^ A.D, 1520/* ( FiVfc K E. T. S^
44.) A woman was taken to GUistonhury for
parpcf^ of receiving' a miraculous cure of her .
and for this ^^Thrder was she brought j
in-to the chapell, verely she wna beled, and lefte
her ftyftes thore, and on her fete wente home re-
son ably well." H* FisawicK.
Elecimpajo: (4»»' S. v. 605 ; vi. 103, 205, 204,)
For an account of this plant, which two of your
correspondents say is used medicinally, see
*' Botanicum Ofllcinale ; oft a compendlus Herbal :
irivin^ an account of all BUfh Plants a i are row used in
the Practice of Phvpick, with their de*crJplii-na and vir-
tue-s by Joneph Miller," London, 1722, p. 185,
The copy of this work now before me exhibits
in mfiny places the ravages of that little insect
the bookworm, so lately introduceti iustriictively
into your pages, J. Maxuel,
Book Ornamentation {4**'S. vi.507j vii. Ill,
147.) — Tlie faUiion of painting over and under
the gold leaf on the edges of books is an old one.
1 have seen MSS. with illuminated edges (th©
patterns being like the floreated borders) as early
as the end of the fifteenth century. 1 have a
Bible (London, printed by E. T. for a society of
stationers, 1G55,) in old morocco, with the aide
and back inlaid with ditlerently coloured pieces
of about the some date. Under tho gold m the
front is a large heart surrounded with flowers and
fruit, and bearing an inscription. Uf about the
same dat«, I think, was a Bible for sale in a
London bookseller's catalogue not tqtj long ainc*j,
which had an excellent picture of the Last Supper
under the gold, J, C. J.
La Caracole (4*" S, vii. 34, 149.)— Caracole
was a word adopted from the military. It is thus
explained in the Vocabolario defjU Accttdemioi deila
Crusca, I cannot find on etymological deriTfttiou
of it :--
" CARACTotiM&E. Far earacolU. Ydtcgf^iArs.
" Caiuch)LU), Ri\'olgiinento per lo ptii di tnippe da
imo II iw>mmo (from the rear to the frout rank). Lat* evo-
lutio aciei."
a a
Who 19 A Latrtj? {4*»' S. vi. 4^2; vii. 12,
17 r>.) — Sir George Mackenzie {IForkSf voL U.
p. 58;i) says : —
"Such as ilid br»ld their lanrta of the prince wens
calltd iairdi ; but such as held their lands of a oubject,
though they were lar^f* and their superior very nohte,
were only railed ffoodmen^ from the old French word &«•
hommet which was the title of the roaster of Ibe family,*^
But even in Sir George's day the distinction
was falling into desuetude, and lost century every
Scottish landowner was called ** the laird " and
his wife ** the lady," But a distinction was
niftde, and is still oljserved, between the "many-
acred ■ ' laird and the ** little " or bonnet-laird.
The former was 8tylt*d thus r *' ibe Laird of Keir,'*
**tbe Laird of Driim," Sea the latter merely had
the title prefixed to bis surname, e. g. ** Laitd
Black," ^* Laird Brovf^;' &c, ^V>j lrv^^\>(^,
Uooers' remark, tWl "m ik%^o\"C\i^ *'\TkS^^sft.*
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4«^ s. vu. Mj^oi i^
fpequently precedes h name which
hBA pmiionarwM after it, i« new to me, and per-
haps be will substantiate it bj a few examplea.
Afolo-Sootxts.
I am credibly informed that the paternal grand-
father of the Key, DB,CtoOEEi^ bad an elder brother
whoae surviriDg daughter married a farmer of the
name of Weat, and whose son, Mr. William West,
is farmer in Mayrigi^ By the Scottieh law of
aucceaaion, the portion of Coupargrange which
belonged to the Rogers, had it continued in the
family, would now be in the possession of Mr.
West, This being the case, how could Da. Rogkrs,
"without presumption/' take a title from an
estate belonging: to another man? and If, as i^
alleged, he 1>o only the descendant of a younger
eon, how can he in any sense bo the representa*
tire of the " portioners "of Coupergrange * ?
loiT,
Kensiflgtoo Gardens.
"TnoiTtJH Lost to Sight, to Memobt dear*'
{!•* S, iv.r 3''' S. yi, Tiii. ; 4*" S. L, iv, passim ;
vii. 66, 173/) — Like all your other correspond Rnta
I hare failed to fiud the' origin of the above line;
but the following bit ofinformation may, pt^rhnps,
render the search for it a little easier. Some time
since, I mentioned the query respecting it to a
relative now dead, who informed roe lb at, though
she was unable to say where the line in question
occurred, she knew that the one which followed
it was —
"The nbaent claim a sigh^the dead, a tear.*'
This would show that '* Though lost to sight, to
memory dear,*' is not a whole line, but only the
lost four feet of an ordinary five-foot iambic verse.
W. A, Smith.
Newark.
Rkv. S. Henley's English '^Yathek'- (4^
S. vii. 35, 113, 174.)— Whether by Henley or
aome other band, an English translation of Beck-
ford's story bad appeared prior to June 1, 1815;
tlws is shown by tne preface to the first French
edition published in England, Ajs the preface is
very short I annex it. The volume is published
" A Londres, chez Clarke, Mount Street, Berkeley
Square *' : —
** Lea Mtions de Paris it de Lauflaiine ^tant devenns
extrfmcment rarea, j*ai consent] enfin h ce on© I'on ro-
pabliiU h Londres cc petit ouvrage tcl que j© Tax com-
Kai. La traduotlori, commij oa s^ii, a paru ar&at
riginal ; il est fort ain^ de croire que ce n^tolt pas moo
intention— dw circonstancea, peu Int^reaaan tea pour le
public, en ont^td la cauM. J'ai pr^pardquelques Lpi&odea;
lb fioat indiquds h la page 200, comtne faisADl suite k
Yathee; peut-ctre paroitrout^ila tuijoar.
** I juin 1815. W. Beckfc»rd."
The printer's name appears at the foot of the
notes on na|re 218: "lie rimprimerie de J. F.
Ihre, SL John 'b Square. • ' W. H* P.
Belfast,
HoELTT, THE Germut Pokt (4^»* S. vi. 177^
288; vii. 174.)— Four tranalatioas from HrJtv .^r*.
printed in the *' German Anthology '' v
part of Poetm by Jattunt Clarmtct Mun
York, 1859. The " German Anthology ^^ ia ^
in the introduction (p. 23) to hare been \
and publiahed in Dublin in 1B45, under the
of Anihohgia Germanica. T. W. (
The Dragow (4*^ S. vii. 12, 125, 174,)— If
ward you a few copies of a lithographed draw
of the St. Beea dragon.
The impout on which it is cut ia one of a very
IriRh-looking and early ahape, and L^ I doubt no^
ante -Norman.
The dragon also of the twelfth century, figowJ
in Mr. Cutta's Manual of Sepulchral Mmumtnitf
Pkte XXXII,, 18 two-legged- E. IL KxotoM
Kcnil worth.
Wfji^T5R*3 Art (4*'' S. vii. 57, 140.)— Thar^ii
not likely to be found much upon this subject io
our standard poets; it m rather in the line of oar
obscures. I have heard of a book en titled Mmtrv^;
0r tfie A}*( of ffeavinff, in verse, 1077, which, if
to be found, would likely supply the wint of
K. P. Q. A much commoner volume is
Spiritualisfidf by the Kov. Dr. ColUngB
wich, 12tno, London, 1G75. In the ooi
fiermonisinff, the art generally ia treated
the whole mtersper.^ed with poetical mon
The editions of this are very numerous,
myself some three or four, and can aeooi
your correspondents with a sight of the book if
desired.
The weaver's occupation is favourable to
cultivation of the muse, and 1 doubt not
examples might be found of bis art rendered into'
verse.
Here is one at hand. James Maxwell,
in Paisley/' who in earlier life published at
minghami 1756, Dii^ine ML^cellanies, in wl
under the bead of *^ Weavers* Meditations,'
moralises in verse, and in a Hogarth -like fronbi*'
piece represents himself as the diligent appruatioi
at the loom : —
"Lt> I here 'twixt heaven and earth I awLogt
And white t bh(? shuttle Rwiftly fliesv
With cheerfal h«art 1 work and aing^
And envy none beoeatJi lh« akios."
Ho is, however, I find, altogether apirituid,
does not, like Dr. C, "raise heavenly meditatiflHi
from the several parts of their work. ' A. ^*
Sekbrwobt (4"» a vr.602 ; vii. 26, im.WTht^
plant I am inqumnfj for may very
that referred to by F. C. H. (Muri'thi
am sorry to say that I am unable to idt<uUfj
from his description. Can any Dorset
pondent help ? It is certainly not the Jdtt !
poUttm^ with which Mr. Peacock appeals i ^
^aLVn.MA«c«i8,7iO NOTES AND QUERIES.
245
Badgeb (4»'* S. Ti.54-1; yii, 166.)— "As im-
padent as a bAdp-er^s horse *^ \s still a common
proverb in the North of England. One can easily
UDderstund how a horse with a corndealer for its
master must he the most impudent of lU apetiefi.
IL FisnwiCK.
CoiiBLKBs' Lamps ik Italy (4"' S. viL 11» 132.)
Before the introduction of gas the large globes
fiUetl with water were very commonly used by
fitamework knitters, particularly those making lace
or fine Btockin^^. I dare say 'that in many parts
of the Midland Conntiee they are a^l common.
Ellcet.
Craven.
*' QirsHf ABOMfis" (4*^ a vil 140.) — About
the time this poem appeared (18S9) the Rev.
Matthew Bridg'ea lived at Babbie ombe (Bribba-
oombe is said to be the more correct orthography),
ami published several poems. He was not im-
pttbably the author of the poem in question.
Mi£ROt:nEiB can easily aBeerlftin thi&j no doubti
If he thinks the scent worth following,
Wm. Penoellt.
Torqua>%
MrMJCERs: Waits (2'»<» S. x. ; xi. ; xii. ; 3'^ S.
I; ix^nojiiim ; 4*** S. vii. 55, 12L) — These come
vr&y January to Sir George Bowyer r ahooting
OQiKafo In R ad ley Park. I saw them there thia
jmi tber were very well got up with shreda and
ptichf^ of coloured calico and paper hangings, and
tlie f^firta of the doctor, the wounded man, and St
George were enacted in capital style. The waits
•lio pay tiieir visit ; these are usually girls, who
t^ttr in two parties from the respective villages
dley and SunningwelL Both waits and
lifiTs go the rounds of all the farm-houses on
tini property. W. J. BERifHABD Smith.
Temple.
piLARioK's Servant, tub Sage Crow *^ (4^
li 11, 112, 178.) — The quotation h not quite
For six years, read sixty. It is takeOj
se, from St. Jeromes Life of St, I'aul, the
rmit, who relates the miraculoua iiiddent
words: —
."Inter tiiu scrrnocinxitioncK* Huspiciimt alitem carvum
■ fimo &rboHs consedi***!^ ; *|ui inde lenit^r aubvolaas
paDcm ante iiurunlitim ora deposuit, Poat
^^Bi ftUsQBMUTD, '£ia«* iaqoit Paulus, * Domtoiis nohia
j^**»™ miiit, vere pius, veit* luiscricors. Sexiglnta
1 taut, earn aceipio dim id 11 &cmp«r ponis frag-
Yemm md adventum tuum mlUtibua iuis Chri»-
, jcavlt annaoftm/"
^0. wUheafor information about bis "dumpy
> quarto ^^ Livei qf the Saint*. He has aid-
bly described it. My own copy ia of similar
icUr^ADd bound up in green vellum. The
vna wiitten in Spaniah by Alpbonaua Ml-
^and translated into English by Rev. Edward
S. J. of Louvain. A* G.'b copy was
viti fit^ Omer^a in 1623; mine at Douay
a
eight years previously — in 1615. The arrange-
ment of the two editions diflera ; mine baa 945
consecutive pages, begimiing with January and
endiup; with December. These are followed by
an appendix of perhaps 160 pa§es ; but my copy
h defective, and has only about 140 pages of ap-
pendix. In this are the lives of several more
recent saints, ** lately c^monised and beatified by
Paul V. and Gregory XV.'*— SS. Isidore of Madrid,
Ignatius of Loyola, Francis Xa^-ier, Philip Neri,
Frances of Rome, Terese, Aloysius, Stjmislaua
Kostka, and Alphonsus Rodriguez. At the end
of these lives, which fill 78 pages, comes the
" Approbatio " cited by A. G., but it should have
been thus printed : *' Honmi sanctorum vitse," &c.,
without the word *'approbator '* at the beginning,
which is un grammatical and uninteUigibk. My
volume, however, does not end here, but baa
several additional pages dated 1636^ with the
lives of St. Patrick, St. Bridgit of Kildare, and
St Columba, the last of which ia wanting, with
part of the life of St* Bridgit. This collection is
chietly compiled from legendary accountSj and is
of smil] value and authority. ' F. C. H.
Mural PAmiUTQ jn Starston CHtmcir, Noii
FOLK (4^" S. vi. 542, f>77; vii. 40, 172.)^Afte
reading the last communication upon this subject]
of F. C. II. at p. 40, I felt inclined to offer %'
further remark on some details in the picture
upon which I still think your accomplished cor-
respondent mistaken, but I forbore for the reason
with which he commences hia note— I did noti
wish to aeem contentious. One of the points I had
intended to notice — that the dogma of F. C. H.^
I as to the representation of immediate beatitude
being inapplicable to any ordinarj' individual, was
disproved Tby two or three such upon sepulchral
brasses which I remembered — has, lam pleased to
see, been taken up and completely disponed of by
Mu, Walter, whose nuthonty is indisputable. It
ia ft sentence in that gentleman's communicfttion
that induct' 8 me to address you again. He seems
to agree with the assumption that the death-bed
depicted is that of a lam/^ although not that of
the blessed Virgin, but there is not a feature re*
maining from which the sex. can be inferred^
neither can any inference be drawn firom the figtire
of the ascending soul ; for, if my memory is not
at fault — and Mn. Walter can correct me if it
be— in no instance where the soul is represented
as borne to heaven is the sex indicated. There is>
therefore, an equal probability that tbe soul in
this case is that of a male. Mr. Waltbb*8 re-
mark upon the importance of the arms as a key to
the whole subject is most true, but here unfor-
tunately they cannot be produced in evidence.
One thing, however, is certain, and in this I am
obliged to contradict F. C. H., the arms of Sawtyy
Abbey are not like anything to be traced upon
the shield, nor had that abbcfv tke TOma^fttX <:«\i»
246
NOTES AND QUERIES.
aection with tlie fldvowson of Starston, or any
jflanor or Iftnd in the pariah or binidred. I may
Add, that I still retain the opinion, m which I am
not singular, that tha circlet worn by Ihe female
tig^are Btimdiug by the bedside was, when perfect,
a coronet, not merely an ornamental headband.
G. A. a
A BLACK-COTDfTBT LEGKITB (4*^ S. tH. 71,
197.)— This anecdote has been told also of Geno-
falBurgoyne (of Saratoga notoriety) when he waa
<5ommandin!a: olficer of a repiment which had to
stop tt night at Bolton-le- Moors, According: to
the newspaper story which I read some yaara ago,
one of a club of Bolton gentlemen who were
dining in a differeot room from the officers was
pot-vflliant enouf^h to send up a ver^' handsome
gold watch and seala with the message indicateil.
Burgoyno hept the watch and returned a pi^jtol,
saying that the regiment must march at nine, but
if the gentleman would come with a friend before
that hour he should have his watch, and should
know what o* clock it wfls. When morning came
Burffoyne was early lounging out of the window,
looking up and down the street, stretching his
legs tpefore the door, &c. ; but no one cam© to
cmim the watch, bo he left Bolton taking it with
Mm. P. P,
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
The JVocel* and Nbpeiitts of the Eigfiteenth Cenhtiy in re-
ference to the Manners and Morah nf thti Age. M}f
*Wmiam Forsyth, M.A., Q.U., &c (Murray.)
Few who take nn interest m the history of the social con-
ditioQ of the p«oplc, thefltate of public morals, nnd Ihe pro-
gress of civiliEatian»bttt must have Mt^wheii titniingover
the novelists and letter- writers of the laat century, the wbh
that some one qualified for tho task would collect the
materialfl illustrative of these variotia but collate topics
flcattered tlirou{;h tha writings we bavo alluded to, and
bring them together in some pleasant and readable form.
Happil}' the Idea has 3agge.*itCil itself to one every w ay com-
peteni to do it jiiBtice; and we feel confident none of our
readers wil! Judge the time iJl-spent which they rany devote
to the p< ru-sal of Mr. Forayth** recently publishcii volume.
In its page^ tbe author' makes use of fiction as the ex-
ponent of fact, and shows what infonnation is to t>e
gleaned as to the habits, manners, itioralSi and social life
of our ancestors from the tiovelst easays, and letters of
tbe last ccntnrv'^ and not only this, but he draws jw>me
eompariflon between those morab and manners and the
morala and manners of our own day ^- not always to
ihe advuntage of the latter* After illustrating the
faahions, dreaSt amuaeme&ta of our forcfatherii — the
eoaneaess, dninkenness, duelling which prevailed — the
eondidona of different branches of aodety, such as the
oountiy aquire«i, juatices, and ^* parsona " as depicted by
the peveral classca of writers to which we have rcferred*-
tbe book conelndus with a rapid but instructive review of
the mo-*t dii?tinjjjiiiphcd old En^jlish writers of fiction, from
Mrs. JJehn, Airs. Manler, and Mrs, Heywood to Richard-
fon, Fwidingf SmoUetU Goidsraith, Misa Burney, Miss
Edgeworth, and Jskne Austen*
atitutionai flistorj/, from the Earliest 1
of Edward the Firit. Arrantftd and edited % WilliJ
btubbs, M.A., Eegiua Profe^or of Modern llltlc
Clarendon Series. (Macmillan.)
In the well-founded belief that a knowledge of e
tntjnnal Iri»toTy should Iks a rcco(nait»ed part of i n„,
KnjKlish education, inasmuch as witbotit it no knowlec^
of English history can be sound, the Regius rr«^«orC
Modern Hi>tory at Oxford has prepared the book t '
U8» It is intenritd to be primarily a treasury of rd^
or easily handled repertory', of "the origifKx of Ett!:fl«tt
constitutional history ; and, therefore, it cm r
constitutjunal doL'unient of importance dur
which it covers. While, with the view «Ji
manual for teachers and studentji, the cdii
these documents by pointinjc out their b
another and on the national polity, '
introiiuctory sketch a string of corn
sort of continuutis theory of the d^ . . ,
system," Tbe value of such a book, if property ex' n^ ..
is evidi'iit ; and on thif point we can safidy say, t> ih>^.'-
who know tbe lucid and masterly prefaeci by'whirh Mr,
Stubba has introduced the several Chronicles edit- 1 i^
him (or the Master of the Rolls, that the work before u^;*
Gvery way worthy of the author of those admirable e
A Descewdakt of Cromwkll. — A Cincinnati j
records the death of Jo^efdi Huwanl Cromwell, i iinitl
descendant of Oliver Cromwell. lie was formerly r4|K
tain of en American merchantman, which, in 1* *
1812, became a privateer, and was captured br <
man-of-war. The captivity of the captain did 1
long. He was afterwards, for thirty^four year% ifll
keeper in Cinciimati, and retired* in 18*62 to Td
Springs, Ohio, where he died on January 31|
eighty-fifth year, leaving children and gm~*'
The deceased is reported to have been a de
a grandson of Oliver Cromwell's son Henrv
tenant of Irclaiid»who flettled in Marxian
eighteeiitli century, [There can l»e no Voun :
statement. Mr, Oliver Cromwell, the gren:
Henry, and the last of the male deacendam
tei^lur, died at Cheshunt on Mav 6, 18'Jl.— Sc^ U^
Mag. for 1821, part i. p, fiCJD.— Ed. -X. & Q/']
Namks of IxjjiiwjN Streets, — The fuperintei
architect of the Metropolitan Boartl of Works rrporttdl
the Boartl last year that in fourteen year* 4,194 »ub '"^
names of streets had been abolished,' 1, 849 new stre«tit
been named, and 94,532 houses had been n<oun
Tbe object is greater precision of reference, which lij"
moted to a large extent for commercial, social , sanUa
medical, and other purposes, and tenda greatly 19 t
convenience of the public. The rules of thu IJoanJ i
quire that, as fur as poiistblo in selecting names for i
streets, no names shall t>e repeated.
We recently announced the appearance q{ El Aft
guador^ x Spanish Notes and Queries. We have itcm\
chronicle the appearance of another Journal, wbkhi
be of interest to Spanish studenta. It ia an 8vo i*^
which ia to appear on the last day of eac h month* t
the title of Hevista de Arehitfoi^ BibliotetoM y Mawft*
The Tarnitam MSS.^-We learn '- - '^^- Stf\
and GenealfigUt that the x^aluiilde gen-
formed by the late Li>rd Farnham, ai id i
fifty volumes of pedigrees wer*^, by tbe adnuaij
hia estate, presented to hi*! friend' Sir Bernard ]
by so doing they believed they were beat can
the wishes of Lord Famham.
Thomas WiLLiEMr:tT, EaQ.— We regret to l
, \b^ 4pikV\i Qu \bft IQth instaiiti ai^ dgblj'-ftve, of t^
1. M^itc.1 18, 71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
247
lacli Te*rp«fel#d Fi'Ilow of the Society (*f Anti-
11 r Willfmfnri* Ifegat Heraldry, published in
*U known U* nil hcraUlic Ptudent-t. He al*o
in 1^1'T» UtrahViC Notices of Canttrburv Cathc-
ri9, /nrffx to RuU o/Armx temp, Henry VII Li
similar Index tct Boll of Arms ttmp, Richard
in 1844, Kit Atcnunt etf the RcMtoratian of |A«
St, GtoTjifett Windtiyr,
nAitKsPr.ATs Fon ScnooLUfiR.— An cditmn
^jiro for achool tij*e, (Hiired hy Beveral of Iho
l^tcrs^ ia in preparation. Four ptaya hare
ipeAr«*d separately ; these are to be lullow^d by
AlMut Nothing.
-In the arTan;TPraents fur the forthcnnun^
kttJ Exbibiltoi% thw term in to.bcjir a very wide
bn. Pictures, sculptures vrornl-ciarvingi*, tapes-
I ornBinenLatioii,— pverytliin^, in short, of a
nature \% to find a place in the Art Galleries.
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ZQJFi>Oy^ lUTCnUAT^ MAnCU 35, 1871.
CONTENTS.— N» 109,
SOTKS* — Oti tlifiTitU^ of Kin»c or Otiwn of Man, 2t0 —
s — The Efynio1o?y of '* Wird " a§ » Personal
^1 t34}— Bean* Eai-s — Bouroe *ad Croft— Bram*
ITortihrre — L. von Be«rthovon — Portrait of Cameron
ef I^biel — Court Wournins — CreiU— " GeorKt Can-
|»rtKii3'9 Will" — Pedif^roe of Fairfju — Bisho[> Fuller —
Ba -Hoin« Abbey B^Kirtnr — Eliz ibcth KilU-
«r* it«w Shannon — Sir Prtcr LdjN Ufe ftnd
Wsif - ncl AnKflo's " Lxs^ JmlifuirDt "— Mo«qtiito€»
to En^lAuil, aiodnos» — St.
AQCiitiiine— > \iuhope, lAlO-
liM — BtoduKi isipniiaJied Men
— •■ The World LursiLci ujjaiJc duwii," ur the Hares tiUtiiig
YcQ^eancse on Mankind^ Ac.. £5(3.
^(^piftrc. _ T T,., rr...^ 0,,^^^ at Edinburgh. 2Gft —
r of LiUjps' Chifnioiis, /6. — Tho
I^ . for the f3ft'id, ;;63 — TL(? lUlti-
r. 14,. s — ilAoaulay'i Bal-
)' rioii-Plofi: Lu-Lu —
' linff — Csptaln Johfi
il^ — 'I I — " Skcrriii)? upon
ji<*;avo (.1-1 P^d^iHriBn FfHt of
Fkra>l.ii - 1 -Ancient HuildliK^
' ' - \r=.., wi ... :vtM,At^i.'ui!d— The Oldest lima
SutT'iik li^xid Bo recti », ±0., 29*,
x*o.
OX THE TITLE OF KIXG OR QtJEEK OF
WAX.
^li I lAliing' oTer some of the enrly voluniGs of
' met with, in 1*^ S. v* *205, Mr. Jomf
f I nL8*8 paper on *^ Isabel Queen uf the
' in replj to Mr, W. S. Gibsoit s on
'■ ject, in Tvltich he appears to queslion
tijj^ right of Vhe Lords of Man to be stjled kinfrs,
Uyija^ « they do not apnear to be recognised by
tteoids, but merely by the chroniclers, and that
^tJie word dumtnus^ not r&i', is employed in Latin
^'c»d% and 3ci(/n€ur in French."
I141.VG always looked upon ftoy statement from
. XicHai-s*» pen to be entitkd to every degree
'^f^rif ntion nnd credit, knowiug that his object is
<'"K Id Fr,ite facts aa far as those facts can be
^-o^n ii:)r,i : ftud as **N,& Q/' ifk now so universal
4 fii»^i] uij f .r obtaining informatioD, I offer a few
^^'Jii.rxH u the subject of Manx kiii;:;s in the hope
ttAi ^M,rn,. of your correspoadenta may throw
Oft^ sildinonal light on the matter.
_ Tliat the early chroniclers are entitled to some
J«p«e of credit wiU surely be granted, for we
W many things mentioned by them which are
Jitahlished facts, yet not to be found in records,
Tbe Isle of Man hm bo often been the battle-tield
for its poesesaion in early days, that its sovereigns
ftre found at one time to be independent, and at
Mother doing homage to Denmark, f^orway,
Scotlandf or England, whichever might be para^
mount at the time, but never lodng the attributea
of a king in Man. Bemdea many other earlier
K ingR of 3Ian which are recorded* by the chroni-
clers, wo tind that Macon, King of Man in 900,
was one of tlie kings that rowed in King Edgar's
boat on the Pee, eitting at the third oar, thereby
having precedency over the other king<f, and
fhowing the importance that Kings of Man were
hold in at that lioie, Edgar himself presiding at
the helm as king paramount over all, m he
claimed.
At the time of the Oonquesf, 1066, Gndred, the
son of Sytric, then reigned in Man j and after that
alongfiucceasionof kingaof the Norwegian and Scot-
tiahline to whom they were expected to do homoge.
About the year 1205 the usurper Reginald agreed
to do homage to King John of EngLind for the
Isle of Man ; and in the letters patent of that
monarch, in the sixth jear of his rei^,to Keginald,
he is styled Lord of Man only ; but thi^ surrender
was as invalid as that of. Reginald "a of his do-
minions to Pope Flonoriua in 1210, in which he
ia styled *' Begin aid, King of the Isle of Man/'
Also in a roll 4 Hen. III. (1220) ho is again
styled "Rex de Man,*' and again iu the letter of
Pone Ilonorius to Reginald (a.d. 1223) he is
styled " Reginaldo Regi Insukmm illustri/* In
12 Hen. Hi. Olave had s.'ife conduct to come into
England under the style of ^^ Olave Rex Mannire
et Insulanim " ; and again in ID Hen, III, (1235),
dated at Windsor, April 13, we iind it stated
that—
'* We have taken under our R«fe and stnrfl condnet our
beloved frieod, Olave Kitiff of Mann and the I«t«id«,
whilst coming into EnKlnnd to confer with Of, and whilat
tarrying ihnife and in departing theiice,"
Also another protection from the same monarch,
dated May 24, 123<3, ** of all the lands and posaea-
sions of Olave, King of Mann and the IglandS| on
hia going over to Norway." (Vide Firdei'a,)
According to the chronicle preserved in Castle
Kushen we find it stated —
** In the ciffhth year of King Edward the Tbird, VVilUaia
MoDtiigue, Earl of SaU-sUury, conquered the l^l-? of Man
out tjf tlie hanJ* of the ScoU, whkh Jsk* ibe King gave
ui]t4'» tho HAid Earl, and caused liim to be crowned and
entitled King of Man, 1314/*
Sir John Stanley, the second King of Man of
the house of Stanley, succeeded his father in 1414,
and one of the oldest records in the Rolls Office,
Castle Rusben, printed in the statute-book of the
island, states that in 1417 he held a court of Tyn-
Wflld at the Tvnwald Hill, St. John's, when' he
was informed by his deemsters and keya how he
should be governed on his Tynwald day aa fol-
lows :—
** Thii i« tbeCoiwtit i : ^ M time which ire have
jfiven in our dayp, he 1 be p^ovenicd on your
Tynwald day. 'First v av^A\\\V\vw'\u^w«tcjftii»\
array, aa a' King cmgU \o do Yi^ iCbl^ \wt^t^N:\%^ vnSic
250
KOTES AND QUERIES. [i«*avii. MAncn23,
Toyiltici of the Land of Man, and upon the Hfll of
Tynwald iit in m chair corcrcd with a royal cloth iind
eitihion^ and your vi<iag«'iiDt(i the east mid }*oiir sword
before jou holdeii with the point upward*,"' drc
Afti*r fence u made —
'* That no man make any disturbance or stir in the time
of T)TiWflIJ^ or say murmur or rising in the Kin^^i pre-
tence, upon pain of hitn^nf? nnd ilrawiDg, and then shall
let your Barons and all othcri know you to l>o their Kin^
and' Lord/* &(*. " And in as much aa yoo are hy the jfrace
of God now Kinff and Ijtrd of Man, you will now, that
%*our Commons come unto you, and shew their chartcra
How they bold of you, and your Barons» that made do
faith or (ealty unto you, that tbey may now,"3tc,
Tli6 language of thia i-^ only here modernisetL
Thorn fl*, the second Earl of Derby ftiid fifth
King of Man of the house of StAuley, came to the
throne in 1504, and during the reign of Eld ward IV*
he dropped the title of King and made uao of that
of Lord of Man and the Isles, saving that to be ii
grfi&t lord is more honourable tlian a petty Mog;
h\it this change of title did not of cour!?ie derogate
'Atom the sovereign rights or affect the relationship
etweeu them nnd their aubjoets.
In the fourth part of Ci.>ke's htstttutt's of the
awA of England^ iG71, he states ^ —
**Thi3 iftle hath l>ecn an ancient kingdom, as it ap-
__icareth in Ii. 7. in Calvin'a Case." " And yet we find it
not grnnted or conveyed by Ihe name of a kinjjrdoTn, ied
per nnmtn Inmhf^ &c. cttm patrotuitu Epixcopatns. Ha
hokth the patronage of the bi^lioprick of Sodor, which ij ^
a vinible mark of a kinc^om. Vide lib. ilS. in n^cept.
Scaccarii, fol. 16^, and lib. Parliam* in Turri London.
ttmp, E. L fo. II*, 21. (Waif Ingham, p. 287.) VVtlliam le
teope emit de domino Willielmo do Monte aeuto la-
mlani Eul)oniee (1. e. Mannin*); est nemp«Juaipaius Inaulas
tit quiaquifl ilJius «lt dominus Hex Tocatur, cui etiom faa
«at Oyrona aurea cowtmrij"
In the case of the daughters of Ferdinando the
eighth Lord of Man^ as heirs general^ and William
the sixth Earl of Derby, as brother anil heir male
of the deceased Ferdinand as to the right to the
island, lo05, it was decided by the Lord Keeper
Egerton and the rest of the judges, **That the
Isle of Man was an ancient kingdom of itselfe,
and no part of the kingdom of England.'' Selden^
also, in his Tithx of Jlottom^f 1031, ranks it as an
ancient subordinate kingdom, obserTing that its
kings styled themselvea as Kings of Man and the
Isles, and were so styled by their iuperior lords.
Both Coke and Selden prove their assertions from
the records, and Black^tone in his CommenlaHc$
confirms this, James Earl of Derby waa styled
*' King of the Isle of Man ** in 171G in an apjieal
ease beard before a committee of the Privy Council
in LondoiL
In the sale of the ialand with its royalties to
the British crown by the Duke of Atholl in 1765,
the negociations for which were not finally con-
cluded until 182S» the sovereignty of the island
imu one considerntloUt and although tbey had for
« loag^ seiiea of yetus been coDteiit witln €be title
of LordS| the sovereignty however was not di-
minished by the change of name ; for the lakot
Man is traceable as a kingdom into times— |tf'"
centuries, but certainly many years— priorj
Conquest. This was fully discussed and
when the Duke of Atholl a lAe of Man f
to be heard before the Privy Council.
It may be remarked that from time immenicri^
the Isle of Man has been governed by iti on
laws, made and allowed with the consent of ihd
kings or lords by his council and the keys of tli
istandi and which mode was continued during th
Commonwealth of England while Lord Fail'
was lord of the island, and on to the preaenl ^
the same being first promulgated to the peo|
from the Tynwald Hill at St. John's.
I hope what has been here stated may lodjiff
Mil Nichols to investigate this subject a;i-r.
and also induce Mk. VV. S*0ib805* to heti-^^
that the crown of the kings of the Isle of )[
was not a '* shadowy crown/' but a sabsLi: :.
and real one. WiLLiAU Hi.BSIB<i^.
Kock Mount, Isle of Man.
IIUNSDON ClirRCH.
This church was built about a.d. 1400, and i»
in the Early Perpeudicukr style* It cmw^t^ f
nave, with western tower and spire and : '
porch ; chancel, with north aisle and south tmi-
sept. The tower contains five fine b*Uk Tb«
porch is gf oak, of the same date as the ckwch,
and in very pood preservation.
The church was once very rich in %talned glil*^
placed there in U40 or 1450 by Sir Wm. OM;
halle, Speaker of the House of Commons, a jtifici
adherent of the House of York, and at that '
owner of Hunsdon House, which is close !
church. Much of this glass has since <]
but there still remain in bead of en
the Annunciation of our Lady, and our Lovd ia
glory adored by saints. In" chanc*?! window/^
several white roses of York^ and two fetter-loclt^
another badge of the House of York; also i«\iX
canopiea, which no doubt once surmounted fi;' " '
of Fointci, In a window of the nave, six Ap
and other fragments.
Hunsdon Ilouse subsequently belonged to *
Henry VIII., and was used during his reig^]
re^dence for his children. Mary (aftcm
queen ) lived here during the reign of Edwaru ' -
and Elizabeth during the reign of Mary, f^* I
palace of the Bishops of London wa* tli'^n i*
Iladham, four miles distant, and Bigl
is known to have come over from ii
preach in Ilnnsdon church. There are also rt'fv r*^^
in the parish register of Queen EHxabcth havior
[• Mb, GiB:^x died on Jaa. 3,187 L Se<p.4«of<*'
4* S. Til. March S5. 71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
251
£
icB stood as sponsor in the cHurch— in 1575
d 1584. When Elizabeth came to the throne
e gave Hansdon to her couain, Sir Henry Gary,
and created him Baron Hunadon. The third Lord
Hunsdon, who was sent to bring Kin^*' Jamca I*
to Eoghind on his accession to the English throne,
built the south transept, and placed in it a large
monument containin;^ figures m alabaster of him-
self and his wife, but he was not buried here.
There ia an extremely fine oak screen between the
txBOsept and the nave, and it see ma that when
tMa was erected the whole church was reseated,
and a new pulpit set up; so that the cburch^
•which continues at present in the state in which
It waa put then, is rich in Jacobean oak work.
Unhappily the rood-screen, which must have been
Tery fine, of the same date as the church, was
then cut down, and the lower half only remains ;
part of the remainder was worked into the pulpit,
(md other fragments have been found during the
reetoration of the churchy but not enough for the
part destroyed to be restored. A few of the old
original seats are left, and an ancient oak alms-
box of the same date. There are other monuments
Mid brasses. One brass, date 1501, to the memory
of a^'aervant to the Right honorable the L. Oham-
Wrlaine, and keeper of the greate parke at Huns-
^n/' represents tne keeper shooting a stag with a
CMXdbow, and Death standing between them strik-
ing each with a dart. The chancel aisle is at
sent entirely separated from the church by a
id wall which bears two large marble Corin-
thian monuments with inscriptions of the period
(erca I72t>). It is proposed, by removing these
iBiMitimenta to the wall of the^ aisle, to restore
fte uda to the chancel, using it as an organ*
dwiaber and vestry.
U is not known to whom this church is de-
feted. The rector will be obliged to any one
»b can give him anv information on this point.
There are uine short pieces. The names of the
writers are — James Montgomery* J. Lees, Roberll
Montgomery, Samuel Angerman, 1. Angell, Johul
Gottwaltt Frederic Diemer, John Steinhauer, and
Samuel Un thank. They are just such pious versi^s
aa we might expect from boys taught to venerate
the memory of Ooimt Zinxendorf, who wrote some
thousands of hymnsi and who says of his hymn-
writing —
" After the discourse, I cenuraUy announce anotlier
h^mn appropriate to the aubject. When I oannot tintt
one, I compose one; I say, in the Savioar's name, what
conies into my heart."
In seven of the pieces the phvaical sufferings of
Christ are made prominent. MontL'-omery's piece f
stands first : he was probably the leader ana in*
spirer of the hvmnwriting band. In a letter
written in 1807 Le says; —
" When 1 waa a boy I wrote a great many hymns
. . . , But as 1 gr«\T up and my heart de^^enerated^ I
directed my talents^ such ma they were, to other twrvlcw;
and aeldom iude<»d, since ray fourteenth year, have they
been employed iu the delightful duties of the aanctuan*/*
But this seems to have been written in his six-
teenth year, the year in which he left Fulneck,
It is aa follows : — *
« O thnu mr>5t graeioos Lamb of God*
Who bore our ein and guilt,
Ble*? him with thy atoning blood,
Upon mount Calv'ry ipilt.
•^ And cloiithc liim with thy dghteouJnes*,
That clean and apotlcfls vest ;
Adorn his soul with love and peace :
Thus he'U be highly blest,''
JOSIAH MiLLEB*
Newark,
UUhY VERSKS OF JAMES_MONTGOMERY.
A manuscript containing a juvenile production by
* ^^ininent poet and hymn-writer has just come i
r my notice, and appears to me to be of suffi-
st to deserve a place in your columns.
book in which several pupils of the
ravian seminary have written verses,
n composition and in their own hand-
'•^, -.id signed with their names, in honour
Q^ their teacher on his birthday. {In the Memoir a
^MiMi^m^ry, by Holland and Everett, there is a
'tfefttice to this birthday custom, i, 47.) On the
fcit pn^e IS written. **For Brother Ash on his
Slth-I . 1787.*' This gentleman,
^9 1 enjoyed the friendship of
f^initt f my friend Rev, Ben-
*oun / ^dion this book remaina.
EXTRAORDINARY LEGEND FROM GAINS-
BURGH.
I enclose yon an extract from the Gaimhttrgh
News of March 4, 1871, containing an account of
the appearance of an angel ia that t^wn in the yeai
1810. The story is causing considerable sensa^J
tion in this part of the world; I am therefort]
anxious to know if any of your correspondenti ]
can throw any light upon it. My impression m
that I have met with a very similar &tory in somo 1
seventeentb -century book, but I om quite unablft
to call to mind where or when I came across it
Edwabb Peacock.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
J^j-iraordiHorjf Legend from Gainshurgh*
" The Vicarage. Gainsbur^i^h,
February 27^1, X^lh
Dear Sir,— ! send you the encIoMd papers, which apeak
for thomsch-eau 1 »hoald be glad to know whether any of
vour readers can throw light upon the legend, or trace it
to its Bource. So far aa 1 can lintl, the^only Mr. King
who exercised the offic« of the Christian ministry in
GHintburgh was thd Mr. Kiag who woa v^atttt ^\ ^-j
Independent congregation fiom i\i\y, V^\^,\^ ^\mt,Wlfe,
252
NOTES AND QUERIES. [i«t'S.vn.»UBcii^,*7i:
^^- It pu
E
And I cannot trace out a Mr. Horn at All in conoectioa
with any religious bo<ly in tbe toirn.
No doubt Uie present preTnleoce of tbe in)Ji)l-p<yx hta
given thiB kgend & longer exUteoee than its mythical
and indafiiitle ebaraoter warranted, bat, asmming that
it mtist have soma alight fanndation* it ia a matter of
interest to di&covcr the molehill which bas grown Into a
jnoantAiD.
I am, dear Sir, f«ithfttlly yDUW,
J. Clemebt*/'
The papers enclosed are—
I and 2, Ijcttcrs from Kev. W. du Heanme, M.A.^
Beetor of Trinity, Jersey.
B. Letter from Rev. M. Gallienne, Wealeyan miniiter,
Jerser,
4. The broadsheet cjrcitlattoff in Jeracv^ in French.
5. A translation of the sanie Into Englidh.
[Enclosure L]
**Trini(y Rectory, Jer«©v, October 18th, 1870.— Rcy
and dear Sir, — Would you kindly give me some infortna-
tioD, if in yonr power to do »o, resnecLing aom* extra-
ordinary csrcum stance which ia said to have arixen in
your own pariah church on the 5th of April, IJilU? I
make this requeat because the ftoorer and more illiterate
people about Wro nr« being penoaded that no ksi than
an angel did on that day appear to, I suppose, yonr pre-
decesaori aa the document is signed * Kiogj rector,* and (I
quite forget their name«) the two churchwardens \ and if,
aa I believe, the docnmcnt ia false, 1 shall make it my
duty to ifly so. It is stnte<l i« that paper that a chifd
was fonnd ringing the bells at deiJd of ni;^ht, and afler
having prophesied the present state of Fr.iiice, and the
overthrow of nil mle in that country, dLiappeared sud-
denly, snmmoning thoae present to appear before Ood,
All this and much more purports to be signed by the then
rector, as I have said. It la printed bj' a pereon of the
name of Bcsley at Lincoln itself. The whole affair is tome
ao ridicukius tliitt 1 am rejiUy ashamed to trouble you
aljout it, but I am requested to da *o, and to beg of you
to allow ine to show vour answer.— lam yonn ver\* truly,
Wm. Di: Heaitme."
[Enclosure 2.]
•♦Trinity Rectory, Jersey, November 2nd» 1870.— Dear
Sir, — Pray accept my best thanks for your kind ttn,T?i-er
to my letter. I h.^ivc at la<!t obtained a printed copy of
the famouj circular. It Is rather soiled, but I canget
no other. You ucpd not return it. You cannot imagine
what an imprcs?ion the contents of that niper has pro-
duced among the luwcr orders in this small community.
It bas bnetu circulated amongst tbe Dissenters chiedy*
Our own people attach no importance to it. I ha^'e
known a gentleman of the nnme of King on tbia island^
about eight or teji years ngo, but I cannot ascertain what
has become of him' He was a verj- superior man, about
60 or 70 years old then, and too gifted, as I think, to be
the author of such a story. We shall all be rtyoiced if vou
can tjike the trouble to read this paper. I send It as ft is,
In French, which is onr language, as used in the parish
churches and ofGcially, al though we are daily getting
more Anglicised, and aro proud of becoming more aud
more like other English subjects in habits, and even lan-
gnage.— Yours vorv trulv» Wm. Du Headmb, — ^TheKev,
J. Clements/*
[Enclosure 3.]
"25, Vanxball-strept, Jertcy, February' 1 Mi, 1871.—
Sir, — The enclosed paper is being drculaled in this island.
It purports to be tbe translation of an account of the
^PimrUion at f^/iinfiburgh, in Lincolnshire, in 11<1I^ of an
f^cl in the form of a young female, who, it is ioid,
~' *Ae ieiis of the churcli to ring by breathing \ipi<m \
them, and declared that fihc was sent to warn England
of her sins. She likewise pn>phesicd had tintee ht
France. The names of tbe Smjwmi in QttMt/m^
who heard her teatimooy ■rtmenlKMMd— Eera. KIkioI
Ilom ; and the parties atteaCioflr tba tratbntlnais ar Htm
account are ailded — William CnanoberA, John Cob1Ih%
and John Boole. Can ynu inform me whether the nnui
mentioned are resl or Hctitions, and whether, for inslaiNi^
the clergymen of your town in 1819 were tboaa iwratit
and whether there are, either in the records of the c~
or in the memory of some inhabitanta at pr«»ent 70}
old, any circumstances occurring on the 4th of AmIL
181 1», wLich may have given rise to tbe le;^nd ? I ml
feel extremely obliged by a word in rvply. and enelos
my address,— I aro, dear dty yonra reapectfully, M.^M^
LiSNNE (Wesleyao Jliaister)," "^^
[Endorare 4.]
This is the * broadsheet ia French, a tmnahitto
which is appended,
[EnckeureS.]
•* A true and oiTcnmitantial account of the spfiliiliH
of an angel, who was seen W tV -" ' * - -^i .1..-^
otHdals of the parish church of G i
of Lincoln, on Sunday, April 4tli
the conversation which took place l^twcui Lti^a* hut,tbi
angel and the minister, in the course of which thaiv
exhorted the EnglUh people to np ' ' " -^ "?'
account, in token of truth, ha
genUemen, who have fifTixtfl tb^
to it. — On Sunday, the Ith of Apri ,
of the pariflh were heard sounds m r^
than had ever been heard before, wUi. .x nnt^.i iiisis*
habitants with the greatest sorprise and aateaiitoUBli
upon whidi three of them, Mr. John C^nlston, the efafk.
and the sexton, Tiho kept the keys of the church isdlbl
b':'lfrey, repaired to tbe church to lenm the cause of tUi
extraordinarTt' eircum stance. One said to the other, 'W
us fetch Mr. *Kiiig' (tbe minister who was to prOMlb Ifeil
day), and all having slopped for an in*tnnt beft»rs III
church, were nnable to recover from t i>^ «
hearing the bells ring so sweetly* Mf *t*
the name of the Lord let u« open the ... ... ur<t!lf
exhorted th^m to say the folMving prayer: • O Loii
God, give ua all needful time to think of mir latlfML
deliver us not over to the horrors of death ami etertuJ
tonnenta, bnt grant us grace to prepare to mak« oitf*
selves worthy of Thv goodness and infiDite merde^
through the merits of our Lord Je*ua Christ, tp wfc«i
with Thee and the Holy Spirit be nil h«>nf'nf sfvd jgkwyr
now and ever, nuien.* After whi " "' " ', *w
Ileavenl}' Father, we 3-ield cmrsel HjO
the clerk, at the name of the Lord, t , VfUf
having prayed together in the church, 1 to
the beifry, where they saw the bells r.i loin^
and looking round them they perccivc^l i cni;, ipp**
rently about seven years of age, dri»fed in while, at4
haxing a crown of gohl upon his head, wlut. I.v thr tpsr*
power of his breatht sat the bellainm > -^^
them to ring in this hariDonious niau: ^.nM
astonishment of those present, Mr, Iving, .i;anj|.i^
spokesman, i^aid to the child, ' In the name of the uR^
who art thou?* *l am,^ he replied, *the mt9mi$tf9
the Lord, and I am come to exhort all men to npt^
anee.' The mini'tter then said to him, ^ And Mf Vfei^
reason do you bring us thi-* m««wigc? * * 1 am 9md to
the Lord to induce you to attend without cea*iog dii&
to your prayers, night and morning — to perform is B
Gwrs sight all spiritual acts, and to pray ercry diy*
t^^pe dally that Ho will prepare yon for the fa<it d«y, Hil
dreadful day of judgment, when the world will tit d^
ffOfSf^ V? %£%J Aad he added, * There will f^oiD aglia
4*8.vn.MjLEOHS5/7i.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 25S
cttli&liitad timea opon nil Europe m pToportion as men
pfwe tlwiDfclTea ungodlr, Lrreii(;ii»us, and nn^atirfitl
mjftici^^y ?T^ the cOTintrie:^ wher»? virtue and truth ought
t» shin ; - looked long for the
tndtt where, iiHtend, fVuita
^ w^. .„„. ..^ God of Heaven, " I
I ria nations in my Aog«r \ I will
Mkediteas; I wU I smite them Tirith
• aoou • 1 vers other tliseaacB, becaoac
Cbijii.: u" But befoTQ the^e cola mi-
tiit *rr: - -.-_.- . :ij will endeavonr to aggran-
dize his power; f^ranti preparations for war will b« made
id ah |>arta of Chrbtt^ndom ; bat the Kin^ir of France will
MfkMMWiir humbled, fur diacord will trouble and de-
&laa3[ m kingtlotn/ The messenger from beAven slLit
emtintiKl to exhort them to repentance, by telling them
V ofjadgment approached* Then the minidter
>- ' How do j-on know all these things? ' The
angci rcpiii li : * My Heavenly Master reveals nothing to
Ms mrvnaia (ctr Cbeir own use, bat has »ent me to yon,
to warn v^u to rej>cnt of yonr sma before He la^'sHi*
upon yon.* And he added^ * C^me with mc,
inather miracle to show you-* Having con-
' the interior of the church, he said to
Mtone/ All havinj* endeavoured to do
.; able to succeed in rcmoviiifr it» the
i, * Lord, hove pity on ii5 1' * Very well,* said
oiiie near ma Are you afraid of tlie work
Tr -- • - f.iith is 30 weak, when & messenger
• nj^ how can you hope to be strong
I n^om of heaven ? * Then, laying
wii the »toQe, he turned it over^ to the ijreat
\ of the beholders. Then he picked up a roll
ich was ixnder this atone, and upon which
in letters of fgold, * Englfind I England I
r Tingodliness, and hasten to repent of it I'
> rl, amidst the sound of melodious
ns who were present and had the
■ n ' ; ^ , . * . * . p f rapture and ecstacy .
io te- indersignod^ flincerely
t the statement above
ttUlttd* ijivvn tiuJcr cur rtipwcUve signatures the 4th
A(wl, Iffiy.^Mii, Kino and Mr. Hohn, ministers; Wh.
Cluk&Eiis, Jons Ojulston, and JoitM Book, Es<jrs,"
THT
OF ARCHBISHOP STAFFOED.
1 WHS Arcb bishop of Cant^rbiu^'
: of Engliind during" some of the
i'ara of the reigB of Henry VL It
Ifeutrullv \ns*in apsurned tliat he was a mem-
w of the grent family of his sura an le which, na
&rli of Statford or of Devonshire, or Dukes of
&iBkiiJtrb*m. -were bo distinguished under the
'-' - ir. . _ _^^ ^^^ ^|jg earlier Tudors. But,
Y be conceded that he belonged to
^ not easj to trace the particular
lich he sprung, nor to decide whe-
\vii3 or was not legitimate. The
without interest, and may be elu-
'". hv ventilation in the columns of
J induced to send you a brief
of the case, aad to hope that
erf your readere "who are versed in such
I m&y be able to clear up the dilHcultiea
ittfTOUfid it
«te4 to my own mind by a rkit to
the Terr out-of-the-way village of North Bradley,
on the borders of Wilta and Somersetahire, Open-
ing from th^i chancel of tho parish church m a
north chapel of late Perpendicular work, but un-
finished outside in parts of the carving. In tho
windoWj/whicli faces north, is an altar-tomb b^oav
Lng an incised figure uf a lady and this inscrip-*
tion t —
" Hie jaoeC Dna Emma, mater venerattssinii patris ei
Domini, Dni Johanuis StaiTord* Dei griicta CaotuarieDsis
Archiepif que obiit qulnto die mentis Septcmbris Auno
Dili Milleaimo CCCCmo . quadrigeaimo . Cujus an. ppcie*
tur Deus . Amen.O Deus trinaj me Job"" conserva ruina.'*
There is a great deal here about ^' me Job" *'
and very little about hia mother. It reaUy looks
as if he was anxious by the greatness of his own
personal dignity to cover any little shortcomings
of which *'Domina Emma" might have been
guilty. The tomb will be found fidly deicribed
Ln Canon Jackson^a edition of Aubrey, where also
the curious questions Bup^gested hy it are set forth
at length. If thi3 " Emma ^' was the archbishop^s
mother, who was his father? If his father waa
the huj^bflnd of this *^ Emma,^* why is h© not men-
tioned on the monunient ? la there any other
example of this kimiP Does any other eccle-
siastic of that period commemorate his mother by
herself; and if he does^ hoa his legitimacy been
ascertained ?
I may endeayour to point out the little that i&
known in answer to theae questions. Batteley
{Caniuana Sftcr^a, p. 7*^1 calla the archbishop tho
son of Sir Humphrey Stafford ** with the ftilrer
hand," and his wife Elizabeth Dynham. Banks
{EAttnct Baronage f ii. 641) makes the same state-
ment in the text, but motlifies it in the pt;digree
at the end of the article by cautiously adding in
parenthesis to the name of Dynham the words ** or
Aumarle/' A very complete genealogical table
of the Staffords is to be found in CfM. Top. et Gen*
\i. 335, and if it is correct this statement of
Banks's h errnneous. There is, in fact, great con-
fusion between the two Su" Humphreys, and both
seem to have been called the ** silver-handed*';
at leiist the younger has the name in the Colko*
tanetij and toe elder in TedarnetUa Vdmta (aeo
p, 100). According to tlie pedigree just men-
tioned, the elder Sir Humphrey had two wives —
namely, first Elizabeth, nee D'Aumarle^ widow of
fc?ir John Mautravers, and mother of Elizabeth
Mautravers, the wife of yomig Sir Humphrey;
and, secondly, Alice, daughter and co* heiress of^
Sir Ad&nt Beville, But this Alice cannot have*
been the mother of the younger Sir Uumphiey,
although this is stated in the CoiMa»mf iince he
ia mentioned in the will of his atepmoilier aa
being her daughter Mautravers's husband. Nor
was Alice the mother of the archbishop (who, by
the way, ia not named in tho above- mentioned
pedigree), becauso we aee by the totttb that hit
I
I
251
NOTES AND QUERIES.
mother's oame was ** Emma.'* He h mentiooed
in the wiJl of the younger Sir Humphrey as his
brother Jo ho, Bishop of Bath find Welts* So
tbitt At the time of his erecting' this Dionument at
Korth Bradley, his hrotber and fftther were both
dead; the latter having died in 1413, some thirty
years before ; and his mother must have been dead
at least three years, becnuse he did not become
mrchhisbop till 144^3. He had been made Bishop
of Bath in 1425, ao that his birth must have been
Untedated beyond 1406, at which time the (sup-
posed) first wife of bis father died. (See Nicolas,
I'est, VdttsL p. 166.J He was, therefore, cleorly not
the son of a secona wife, and it is not possible be
was this Elizabeth Lady Stafford's son. On the
whole* then, we are driven to the conclusion first
started by Gascoigno, a nearly contemporarif au-
thority, who (Lewis's Life of Pecovk) .*pejilis of
him as '' hastardus origmo." On the other hand,
Canon Jackson point* out that the archbishop in-
herited certain Junds in Wilti*hire in 1443 on the
demise of a IpreBumed) relative^ which does not
accord with the hypothesis. But can it be proved
that the land did not come by bequest or settle-
ment?
Again, we luwe certain examples of similar mo-
n iiments. 1 am only acquainted with one ; but there
are several, I believe, in existence. In Buxtead
church, Sui^sei (Haines's Monumental BrajiseSf ii.)
h the following epitaph of the middle of the
fifteenth centurj^^ or just coeval with the North
Bradley tomb :—
^nt linh grLittta aabfi Iki shoit
Pobt, ^njjri .Soni fcaf pnsuii hitrt r
^ooti t||att TTiiij pttrr.
Crnst qobrs '^cm ham of n majjbt :
Ca i'pmt ^ Jlohf. burn ^one forril:i'ib*
$^at otut dI j^s, boiib ben pnasrb m fro :
Now, if it could be ascertained whether this
llobert Savap^e was born in wedlock or not, some
light might be throwu on SlalVord's case. Here,
it will be observt^d, the surname of the mother is
pven. Is her son properly called Savsge in
Hainea, or is it possible to ^wcertjiin by the parish
records that he bore any other name ? I have no
doubt some of your coiTespondents may be able
at least to make sure that the desLred informa-
rion is not in existence*
Heraldry seems to throw little or no light on
the Bubjei^t. Although Aubrey mentions the re-
DiaitiB tf a coRt '^quarierly" as existing in his
lime, and Canon Jackson conjectures that this
may be the aims of Beville, which were ** quar-
terly, or and pules/' yet, as we have seen that the
f.rch bishop cannot have been the son of Sir Hum-
phreys second wife, even if we chauj^e her name
^rom Alice to Emma Bevilie, this tells ua nothing,
^'Jiem is no shield or hadstP of the Staffotda amoTV!
the carvings of the cbapal, which are
nor do the archbij^hop's own arms, aa 1
at Canterbury and in other placesi teU
thing, though"^ they are not inconsistent "w
hypothesis of his low origin. Willement
them thus (Canterbutyf p» 22): — ** In the no
transept, the arms of the eee of Cant»;Tbury, i
palififf * Or, on a chev^5^ pules, a mitre proper,1
bordure engrailed si\ble/ *' This bordun? i5 en-
tirely different from any known example of the
system of cadency in use in the Staflford famllj,
and at first sight bos. to heraldic eyea, a stttto^
look of illegitimacy ; i>ut we must take iato i^
count the fact that Archbishop Arundel, who died
in 1414, used a ^^ bordure engrailed ardent **roaod
his paternal arms, and Archbishop Kemp, Staf*
ford's immediate successor, diiierenced his tritli i
similar bordure of gold.
It seems strange that such eminent authoritl^fi
as Bank.H, Batteley, Hasted, Dugdale, Fuller,
Weever, and Dart should all have been more or
less in error regarding the real oriirfn of this
eminent prelate, W.J, hoFTtt
Longevity : Johjt Ba.iles, who lived hI
Three Cestut.ies. — Under the portico of All I
Saints Church, Northampton, is a tablet, b<irin^|
an inscription, of which I give a fac-«imile :—
" Here under lyeth
Jnhn BuHcM Bom in thia
Town he was above 126
years o! 1 k had his hearing
Siirht & Mem on' to y* lart
He lived in 3 C^ntun'f ,
& was buried y* l**** uf Apr
1706."
f no shield oi badge of the Staffords amon^ \ %Y\vl:
Let me add that in the FMlamphical Tmn^iC*
tiom, vol XXV. (1700), will be found An Acccunt I
of the Death and Dissection of this rcmarkiU»J
Ifan^ by Dr. James KeilL The foUowing i» IB j
extract : —
" Jtihn Biiyles, Ike old button maker of Kanli*nip<
is commonly repQteil to have been 130 years oi^l
when he died. Tlieic is no register so old in th» J^jJI
where be wa? christened ; but the oldest people, uf wJ>i«|
some art? li>0, others 90^ and others 80 yearp, r^miant*n
him to have been old when they were ronncr* 1^* *^1
coaot$, Indeed, differ much from one au;»tb*rt i it aH 1
agree that ho was at least ]*'0 year*. Ht
alwayi affirm that he was at Tilbnry cam
Mveral particulars about it ; and if we alluw
have been but 12 years old tfatu, he must have 1
when he die^i. He used constantly to walk to t'
bottring markets with his buttons within tbtse 1
years, but of late he has been decrepid aotJcarriM I
Ilia diet was anythiui;; he could get. I never f
WAS more fond of oue sort of food than another, t
was tliat» about a year before he died, be knfedibrf
venison- pasty I but bad it not» Hit body was <xti«wJj
emaciated ; and his flesh feeling bard, 'tht aliap* of ill
the external niuaclea was plainly to bt aeeii f *' ''^
U
i»» & VII. ux^m 25, 71.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
255
It b stated elsewhere tbat ''Cfttherlne^ liis
'I.Hj;^hter^ died in this town at tli*^> fidvRnced age
«>f U>2 joars/' TflOM\s Walesby.
Ttru Doiei>*rcAX5,— It may be as well to re-
conl in **N. k Q/' that the long-deserted con-
Tent of Geronde, Sierre, VhIais, has just been
taken prk3Bea»ion of by some Domini cans from a
dissolved Italian convent. The monks Rie most
teamed men, and have met with a truly cordial
reeepHrtfi from the Swiss of all confeseioDs* The
* on the summit of a hill that overlooks
: ' eronde — a lake not five minutes' walk
trom r^ierre (Simplon route), and yet unlmown to
the majority of touriflta who visit Switzerland ;
^ren the guide books ignore it, as they do the
Lac Noir, near Fribourg (Suisse)*
James IIkwry Dixon.
PoiXT OB VicB.— Malvolio ears, »*I will be
l>wU de tric€ the very man." There are people in
Cuxm who still iny *• point vice'* to express
' kjOf perfect (pronouncing these worda in
'i way). I hare n neighbour who^ de-
^n'/m- uie p rem iseB of another ftirmer, concluded
fcD[MT3it^, "Oh! he is a very p.irticukr man; he
will Suva everything 'about \iU place pottit vive.'*
Ellcee.
Paosoot. — In addition to the liberties already
32) a» having been taken with well-
118, I have just found another instance
^ I ^^ Of «n tit led Progressive Lesions itt Ileadivg,
fc*(Gla«»>3w, 1864), where Ilo/HnlMm i« again
*^ principal victim. In this collection we have
w ilterations —
* ^' * - ' md trumpet sound arrayifd.**
like the bolt* of heav«u/'
/: a soldier's cemtttrtf,'^
i ta^t** of the above must be evident to the
r of readers,
, in the same work, the following altera-
118 in the beautiful poem of The Cuckoo
. Bruce or Logan) : —
" Stttrit the new voice of iprhg to hear "—
jiliny line, and very inferior surely to the
ia L'f the original —
** Oft fftipt, thy curiouf voice to hear.**
Iltntioicnt is that of repofe, which sturU bb^jha
" • to injure. Sp,
'^MnuriiKAjr.— In confirmation of the mean*
▼hich I attached to the designation Hua-
nan in my remarks (p. 170) on the /Vrden
topi of ShakeiFpeare, the following entry in
bh register oi Barwelljco. Leicester, is ser-
Uf. Gregory Iduim, aih^mty and huMbtmdman,
name, and one who on other occasions may have
been styled a gentleman.
AUo the following in the register of St. John'a
parish in Newcastle- upon- Ty no : —
*' Umphrarenairope,Aifj/»an{/»i</?i,atid Fartune Shafto,
ffentkipcmanf married 20 Jan. 15t)9/'
It is evident that a Husbandmnn was one who
tilled his own land, in distinction to a Farmer,
who occupied the land of another person.
Latterlyi the term Yeoman has been substituted,
and the volunteer troops of Yeomanry Cavalry
have probably contributed to re-establish the use
of that more ancient designation* But whether
the ancient Yeoman was always so important a
Serson as a aranll land-owner 1 think somewhat
oubtfuL I imagine that be waa rather such a
man, whether a land -owner or not, as was com-
petent to perform good service with his bow,
when the sturdy archers were the main force of
English armies. John GorcH Nichols.
Suif-DIAL IjfSCRIPTIOXS* —
'* Sine *ole sileo." — Chafvel of St. Philippe^ Nice.
*'Sci^ hora^ : nescis horam.'' — Convent of Cimi^, near
Kice.
P. w. s.
Hotel de Luxembourg, Xice.
Rev. James Hervet ahd William Uooaetb
Mr. Cole, the eccentric bookseller of Scarborou^'hT"
preserves the following anecdote of the celebrated
author of The Meditatimi^ : —
'"^He posscwcd * religion without gloom*; was a sera-
pbic 'and Ten- cheerful man, though always ill*; and
the follo^i^ tug 'anecdote will *u0Sciently 9hW thnt he
won lil sometimes indulge a facelioua htiniour:— lie sent
an invitation to the Rev. William Willis, R»?ctor of Little
Billing, hh particubr friend and near neighbour, in the
foUowmg termA : *' Voiuntas $um^ vofuutas eM mtcum
^a 0%7a Tt*; thus rendering his friend's name into
Latin, and luing another Latin term, and thre« Oreek
nliflractera for the remainder; that is, in Kngfish, * Wil*
liam WilHa eat a bit of pie with me ? ' ** — Hrrvetamt ; or
Grnphk and IJtemrrf SketcheM^ iituMtrativt 0/ the Life
and iViilingM of the Rev. Jamet Herwey^ M,A,, part the
scoonJ, 8vo, 1833, p. 87.
Fluellen could see a resembknce between Mace-
don and Monmouth — there was a river in each.
If this reasoning holds good, I may surely cltdm'
iome mental features in common between the
pious rector of Weston Favell and the great artist
William Hoparth ; for the same idea — it is hardly
likely that either knew of the other*s existence-
gee ma to have occurred coinci dentally to both. Thft^
humorous vignette of a platter between a knife
and fork, on the engraved title of Nichold'a
Anecdotes of Hogarth^ is familiar to us^ 05 also its
reproduction on the title-page of a little volume
of more recent date. From this I quote the fol*
lowing description : -^
family of tbe on
**H<XiARnr» c4nr> of i^rviTArrox to pijikfr.
'* A i*pt»cimen of HogartU'a pmjujn-sity to merrimenf,
256
NOTES AND QUERIES, 14^*^ s.%iLMi^«cii 55,71
■ketch cm ft eud of iovititioo iddi^ssed to Dr. Arnold
King; ft coirtei fAc-similo of whicU forms the Tt^Tiette
in otir «ngrAvt<l tiilc-psge. Withia a circle, to which a
knift ftnd/arA art^ the sopportcrs, the written part is con-
tained. In the centre w drawn a ph\ with a vtkrt on the
top of it f and the invitation of our artist conctutleu with
the following piocy of wit on Uic three Greek charncters^
U ^ IT (to Ha btta pf)'^ — Eccenhic and Hnmormi Letters
(t/Emitient Men and Woment 12ma, 1824, p. 45,
Perbtipg these resembling: efforts of wit may be
flbowii to bare a common origin.
WiLUiM Bates,
BlltDlXDgbiJaQ«
DmBiir'fi " BiBLioaEAPHiCAL Dbcameeok.*'--
WiU Tou allow me to offer a suggcfltton as to tbiA
hook in tbe pages of « N. & QJ'Y It U, that tbe
text of tbe book abould be reprinted. Tbe time,
labour, and eipcnae tbat would be required to
reproduce tbe illustrationa (supposinj^ tbo original
plates and wood-blocka to b^ no loDger in esdat^
ence) would, I fear, deter nnj publialier from
attempting' to reisbue a foc-sirailo of ibti book,
i3ut, even for an undertaking of sucb magnitude,
I tbink a sufllcicnt number of subacribers migbt
be found. Hnve we not seen in our dnja a repro-
duction of l)'lJo?;ier*a noble Armorial ydniral de la
France f But the reprinting of the teict would
not be a Teiy arduous nndertnkins^, and would, I
mu aure, be a great boon to all bibiiograpUers w!io
sre not fortunate enough to poaeesa the originftl
Tolumea. Even many of thoie who do would, I
believe, be glad of a working copy of the text, to
save the wear and tear of constant reference to
the beautiful original. Of coursCp in all instances
where in the oiiginal reference is made to a
woodcut » the reference in the reprint would re-
quire to be altered to tbo page of tbe book or
MS, from which the cut is dra^Ti, Various little
alterations of this kind would he necessary, but
would cause little or no trouble. Though the
bonk contains a good deal of nonsense, it is yet
delig-htful reading to all lovers of ancient books
and MSS. So I oiler my suggestion, as the phrase
goes, **for what it is worth,'* hoping that you,
Mr, Editor, will at leaat allow the subject t^ be
mentioned in the pages of your widely-read paper.
K M, 8.
THE ETYMOLOGY OF ** WARD'' AS A PERSONAL
XAME ?
Lower, in bia Patronyrnica BrtlamiicA, eiplains
Ward as meaning **a guard or keeper." He states
tbat Ward, standing simply, is *' one of our com-
monest anmames — ^^187 traders be^ng it in the
Z<m(hm JHrmdory of 1S52 ; besides forming the
termination of gevoml others, as Aylwatd, Bur-
&c.** There are also tbe naznea of Wi
Warder, Gard, Garden, and LasBrd, which
considered by Mr, Lower to be or similar imj
Of the compound names which he mentions,
first, descended from the Saxon ^Iward, is
haps a doubtful member of this fraternity. 1
ward, he conjectures, may baye been derived frnra
a ctma-he(trd, or cow-keeper : as we know that, ia
some cases at leawt, Coward is from Cow-hCTi
But the point to which I wish to direct i:
this— what was the occupation, or fund
Ward f whose particular employment in ^_
or keeping a wood, or a mill, or a bay, kc.,^
specified. Was he the same as all^rd? do*
Heard, Or were not many of those who baw
left tbe name of Ward to their posterity wtlly
what we now understand as wants ? wafd* io
Chancery, or wards of their feudal superior. It ii
well known that the Crown bad so many wanU
tbat there was a special Court of Wards tod
Lireries for tbe administration of their a&ia
Mr. Lower makes no allowance at a!l for iStk
origin of the name of Ward, Under *)'-^ ^"'"'^ "f
Wardedieu or Wardeux, however, l
author of Bodiam and ii4 Lord fi as stati
Sussex name (of which William d
was living (cmp. Hen, III.) originated :
of tbe family of Monceux, Lords of iJnr^ti^joTj-
ceux, who was a word of the Earl of E < ^
derivation that eeems far-fetched, and r^qnir'
corroboration. Mr. Lower derivei tlie nan:' j'
Legard from " Fr. le garde, the guard, kftofwr, '\*
wwdcn.** But was U f/ardr ever a French «^^rd
applied to a person ? Garde is in French a flW"
nine noun, and its meaning the same as otir jMi'^
(There is the French surname Ik la OttHi,) ^
person who guards is a ffordimf our gvmrS'^ ^
ttardtm. I entertain a doubt, therefore, whether
a Ward was really an officer or a person etnplor«i
in guarding ; and if Mr. Lower is right, shoalaha
glad to have some examples that will famish i^
information as to the duty a Ward bad to p^
form, ' J.a^.
Bears* Ears. — In a collection of garden flower*
as early as the reign of James L, I find tbe les*
"Bearsears," which 1 presume means tbt !••_
ricula. Has that word been long disused P
Tnos. E. Wr
[In Dr. Prior's Popular Xomh^ of ,
** Beard' Ear?/' we reoid, ^from tbe fonoer Latin I
Urft auricula, in allusion to the shape of tlia lea£»7
Bourne akd Croff, — Anthony B«:»ura#l
CO, Worcester, son of Sir John 7'
haO, one of tbe principal secretin
Queen Mary (see "N, & Q.,'' 4- .^. vl il<S),i
said to have had issue an only daughter tt»
heiress Mary, who married Edward Cioll of ds
iww^ Sayw&rd, Ken wiud, Milwatd, WoodwwcA, \ ^i^H Cii&Wft l^i»i\Vi ;\x!l Ilerefordshire j but
m.aLuicH25,7L] NOTES AIJD QUERIES.
257
r to woam, thU Mr. Croft marrieJ Atiue Brown
I BeUiaiu. ii. 416). Which is correct ?
H. S. G.
^' rKSHiBJ:. — I wbh to obtain any
- to the earljr history of the
* .. Urainhaiu, West Hiding, York-
iicatedt says Allen {Uietory of the Coimty
iM 31:ip London, 1831), to'iUl Saints f
ng rekting to William Jame?, who was
* ere in 1068, or to his immediate predecea-
^to Q certxda Richard Smith, baptised in
cb May 10, 1693, and buried there No-
FTexit>er 19, 1647 ; or to his son IIichard| of the
parifcib, bom in 1620, who was one of the
I fttly proprietoi'8 of New Jcraey in Americft, and
) ot who6e children settled there.
Tnos. Stewakpson, Jb,
, rout Bekthovkt.-— I find in the Bictiomiaire
^V»u^ dts MusicienSf printed at Ports in 1810^
Ifcllawing : —
^BcsmovEx (Louu-Vai])p qu9 Ton a dit BU OAturel
*pfr6^/iaic Giallaume 11, rui dc rra&ae, eat nd k BoiiD,
va« the crigha of this extraordinary
fcment about Beetnoven'a parentage? The
lite above given 13 also wrong. It ought to be
Dec, 17, 17 ii), as everybody knows, F. W. M.
PoRpAiT OF Camxeon OF LocHiEL.— We we
tMMdiagly anxious to know if there exists in any
^tfb • portrttit of ])onftld Cameron of Lochiel,
tb hepj of ' i B well-knuwii poem, «iid
llw took a i ...i part on bebnlf of Prince
in the rubeiiioa of 1745, We have made
;tion at varioua quartern, both in England
Scotland, but withoat fiuccesa; and have
to believe that the present representatire
clan Cameron is not aware that any por*
of hid anct^^tor exiists. If any of your readers
, rof euch a portrait, they would confer upon
\% verj great favour indeed by letting us know
it is to bo found.
bringing the above want und»fr the notice
readera, you will very much oblige*
A- F0LLABTOir & Co.
h Place, Lctth Wulk, Edinburgh.
CocBi MouB5iN6. — Can any of your readers
iftfonii uu^ of a book or books which regulate
Li s at court? Are *' weepers" a part of
'I J? What and whence are tbey ?
M.A.
ITS. — I have been hitherto under the im-
ioa that the aaaumption of more than one
(except in the following cases) was wholly
lidMTect. The excepted case8 are — where a per-
mm entitled to hear arms bad legally asBumed,
fcy Act of Parliament or othen^Tse, the suniame
' lirma of aome other person in addition to hia
or inherited the Tight It' I &m not mis'
takcn^ it 13 stated by heraldic authorities that
although an heiress might carrj'' the arms of her
family into that of her husband, she was in-
capable of conferring the right on him of using
her father*8 cre»t; inasmuch as ladies were not
supposed to nse crests in the place where they
were the distinguishing mark of a knight or
leader, namely, in battle, Howaver I lately found,
on looking over the Visiialhn nf Lcicodershtrc
(publiahed last ycsir by the Ilarleian Society),
several instances to the contrary. For instance,
Belgrave (p. 07), with six quarteriu^^s, bore no
less than four crests; Beresford (p, 172), with
three juarterings, bore two; Brudnell (p. 143),
with Gijfht qunrterings, had three ; Cave (p* 121),
with three quarteringSj bad two; and Sturtoa
(p. 110), with three quarterings, had two. I am
not within reach of any aulborilies on this ques-
tion, but I hope some of the able imd learned
correspondents of " N. k Q/' will be good enough
to enlighten me and veiy probably many othera
of its readers. Y, S. M#
" Gkokoe CAJfTEaBUBT's W^ill/* — During laat
year a new (?) story was publiblu^d in TM&^s
Maffostne, called ** George Cautcrbury^a "Will,*^
but my mother and I remember having read a
tale coutainiug all the main iacidents many yearn
ago; viz., the marriage of a young girl to a
wealthy old man, who dies, leaving to her and hen
boy the bulk of his property, to the exclusion of
his grown-up daughters by the fet wife; the
poisoning of the boy by the young lady^a second
nueband, who wants her money; and her secretly
making a will, by which it returns to its rightful
owners. Can anjr of your readers tell us what
tho Btory was originally called, by whom it was
said to have been written, and how and when it
was published ? L. C* JX*
Pbdiorkb op Fairfax*— In a note on p. 05 of
A MefHvir of Jo/m Meadown^ Clk,^ A.M.^ by thd
late Edgar Taylor, RS.A., it is stated that —
*' tlnrrc is another pedigree of Fairfax in MS, Harh
fiUTU compiled in h*M> or 57, heKi^uiing with John of
Norwich j ond I bav« bad the bwittit of another, com-
piletl about miU by an Edward Fairfax, commuukated
by the ilever<^ud Jo&eph Hunter, F,S.A<"
If the present possessor of the latter pedigree
will kindly allow me to inspect it, I shall be
much obliged. J. Fulleu Russell, F.S.A*
4, Ormonde Terrace, Regent's Park.
Bishop Fullkr. — Wanted tlie parentage of
William Fuller, Bishop of Lincoln, Y, S, H.
HAiiEsrcncEJf.— This word, in the law language
of Scotland, denotes (see Jamieson's Dictionanj)
the crime of beating or assaulting a oerson withm
his own house. Even yet the punishment on the
criminal ia vei^ eoveae* «n^ ViX u'a ^^\^ ^i^sfis^si^.
period waa capital. TC\a o^c^c^, \^. V'b^ >««n.
NOTES AND QUERIES. [v s. vii. m^kch js.'
always BRid, is entirely unkDown in a specific dense
in the law of England, and the word does not
Appear in any English dictioDary. There i», how-
ever, one instance to be found to the contrarjr.
In the Quart^li/ Iteview (xcii* 300) it ia said
(rcf<jmDg to Scrope*» Midory of Cadle Cunthe):
** quod Johannea le Tayllour fecit Itomsokme iuper
dictum rectorem in ecclesia** — followed hj the
etatenient that though the criminal was not
hanged he was heavily fined. Is nny other in-
stance t> be found of the ubq of the word as an
English law term ? ' G,
Edinburglu
IIoxNE Abbey Register. — ^This valuahle ori-
ginal re^'ister has been the object of a long and
Iruitle^a search by a friend of the querist. This
register is quoted m Blomefield's Norfofk^ in Dug-
dflh% in Dean Tanaer*8 books, in Taylor's Inde.f
MoMigtiom^ wid was traced to a Mr. CmTen Ord,
at whose sale in RusseU Square, London, in
the TOOT 1820y it was sold for 23/. to a dealer in
Lonaon, who afterwaids retired from business to
Oanterburr. It is not in the British Museum.
If any reader of '*N. & Q/^ happens to know of its
whereabouts, it would doubtless be of great ser-
vice to many readers of ** N* & Q." if a note of it
was given^ S, E. L,
Lynn»
rTbis Kegiatcr was lot 569* and sold to Mr Payne for
21/. j the greater pftrt of whoti« ftf S8. were purchased by
Sir Thomjia Fhillipps Bart, of .Middle Hill]
ElIZABBTH KlLLIQREW, VlflCOUIfTESS SlIAN-
KON, — Whose daughter was Elizabeth Killigrew^
wife of Francis Boyle, first Viscount Shannon P I
find her described variously as, daughter of Sir
yhomas Killigrow ; daughter of Sir Kobert and
r$ister of Sir William luUigrew ; and daughter of
Sir William Killigrew. Who was her laotber P
Lady Shannon had a daughter by Kjdb Charles IL,
and * I should be glad to know if this daughter
(Charlotte Maria Jemima, afterwards Countess of
Yarmouth) was born beforti the marrictge (tlie
I date of which I do not know) of Elizabeth Killi-
Lgrew to Francis Boyle : and if she bore the arms
1 0^ Boyle, or those of King Charles with some
nbatement. Edmund M* Boyle.
rFnncJs Boyle^ born June 25, Wl'^^ wa^ the fjxih son
of Richard Boyle, the lirat Earl of C<nrk. Frantii^ created
Viscmint of Shannon, nmm«Kl Elizwt>eth, da ut; liter of
Sir Robert Killii^'innv nnd si&ter of Sir Willuim Killi*
grew, by whom he hud issue two sons and one daughter.
1^ Jacob's EnciiUh Pttm^, ii, .4K2 - Atldlt. MS. (Brit.
Museum). 24,492, p, 105 j and Wheler's Guide to Strat-
ford-upan-Aimi, ed, 1825, p. 25. Grammont speukii
of Elbtabeth Killigrew's ilauon with Charles II. under
her maiden imme. The lime of ihc birth of Charlotte
Jemima Uenrietta Boyle, atiai Fitzrov, is not recorded.
She died in London, JulySt, 168-1, and Wfts buried in
We^tmimlcr Abbey. She was twice married ; first, to
1 James, only son of Thomas, second son of Theophilus
^ffoward, Estl of SafFoik; and, secondly, to \\v\Vmm
^sstoa, soa and bdr vf RvUrt, Earl of YaTmt>ul\i. 'Sic
coat is ^veu to her as C3oitnteas of Tarmoath, wbo before
thi^ mairiiigie was sometimes called Boyle and sonietitsts
Fitzroy,]
SiK Peter Lelt's Life akd Works, — Whepe
c&n I refer to a list of the portraits painted by Sir
Peter Lely? and has a Life of I^y erer been
published F if so, by whom ? T, M,
[Consult WaIpole*9 AneedoleM of Fmntuio^ edit 1N9:
Bittgrapkia Britannica, edit 1747*60 ; ftndBrvA&'g Ihc-
tianary of Painter t and Engratert, Lily's coUettku • . !
for 26,0{H.>/. ; and besides he left 900/. TeVrly estate at hu
death. Addit. MS. 23,070, p. 60% Brfdab MoaetuD.]
Michael Akgelo's '* Last JuDOMEyx"— In
Michael Anf^lo'a fre^o of the ** Lost Judgmeot"
there if?, among the group of saints who hMn
sutTered Diartyrdoni, a figure which I take tn
represent SL Blaise, a:^ he bears in his hands ta
the iuMrumeuts of his death two carding coznbs,
the in^j^ia of that patron of dax carders.
In the painting iw it now ezistai the saint i\im
bia bead, which is seen in profile, completelj
round J and ^es over hia rignt ahoulder at tte
Sanour, who occupies the centre of the compofl*
tion. In a spirited copy of the picture in tliftJ
chamber of the cameo?," in the nSzi p-flUery »t^
Florence, and ako in ihe engravings
Mantuano and others^ the satne bbItH h\
though bis hands and arms are in thn idenuc&i i
position, hiB face, now three-quarters to the It^I
loolw down between them, and apparently eitifir 1
converses with St Xatherine, wno ia a Htib ]
below him, or directa the attention of the ftrog«|
gling sinners below to bis fnithful death. I
Aa these latter bear internal evidence that tlwj^
were not copied one from the other, and Mtbsy j
are all taken from the fresco in its earlier «tit^
that is, before Daniel de Vol terra was ordered by
Paul IV. to add drapery to the tigurea, it miT b*
presumed that this figure was then altered ti)
what it now is,
I should be interested in hearing if any one cw
give me pai'liculara as to the reason why to
alteration was made. IT. A. KziTNEnr, Jrar»^"
KIdon Houn, Beading.
Mosquitoes w England, ctr. 1760.— In J
of the }^*ird Earl of Matmeshuryj hU Fttmii
Frimdif, 1745 to 1820, London, 1870 (ar.j
we read in a letter of Mrs, Harris's, desi
visit to the Dean of Sarum's paiaonage in \
bridgeahii-e in June : —
" The Dcau'ii parsonage is surrounded with fcnii '
you are teased h«yond expression by the gnate. WI«J
we got herp, tho Deau*s butler eame to your fiid "**
a pjiir of leather stackinga to draw on so u to p(i
lc^9, which in hot weather is dre&dfuL Betides I
beds have a machine covered with a silk net, wi
down ajler you are in bed and covers you all ov«m
out thist ttiere could be no aleeping : for, Doiwilhfl
these precJiutionar we were most [niAer&t>ly stuo^*
Could these have been ordinary gnats f^
\ John Piaooii /^*
4* s. Til. Mine. 25, '71.] KOTES AND QUERIES.
S69
PaiLosopHtciL Nakedxe^s.— In Hogg's Lift
vfShciley (li, 292) it is said that '^mucb has been
said ttiid written^ bj wise men and hy foolish
Qii«s, on tbe subject of going* naked/* Is refef-
ence made here to any apeciftl controversy ? What
^a? been written at all on this subject?
By the way, has any one else been known to
, jIJgw the '* philosophical nakedness ** of Shelley's
friends, of whom Hu^'g gives so amusing a atory ?
Sr* ATTotr«TTKB.— By sereral writers, r^ Bishop
S ' J, Bishop Lake, and Archbishop Trench,
t^ JiJ stated U) have spoken of the noble
dr^ J le hertthen as xplendtda peccata. Is this
ex: t : 11 to be fotind in St, viugiistine, or how
diU li iifw*^? The common-places from St Au-
gustine whidi illuatj-rtte the mutter in other terma
*re^ known. It is tbo source of these words
which it is desired to ascertain. No as*ii^tance is
to be gained from the authors above mentionedj
is whose works the words occur,
E* Makshall.
SandfonL
ScE3ff A : Sct^fi. — To vary vour matter and
meet various tuiftes, may I a^k by what analogy
it is tbftt if the Latin ik.ena comes from the Greek
<r«^*:^t the tintil fj becomes r?, while the first one
remains t? But if, as I suspect, the termination
0 piiot* to an earlier stage of derivation than the
Or^fk tf, bow is it that the Latiu a becomes u
*'• '^, and that the Latin e remains tj in
^- , liable? I fancy some clue to thin
' ; . L _ . i i ^c re pan cy may be fo and in t h e com-
li ii -r;-']:i of both words, Mtors,
Sjit WiLtiuf SxANnopE, 1040-1080.— Some
tTf fi'v v^f^Ts flg,3, 1 purchased at Oxford, mainly i
' of its handsome carved frame^ a fine
I which was*said to have been tturned
Nt wf Bknhciiih On sendiuj? it to be cleaned
^ lined, the n^uies of Sir WiUiaoi Stanhope and
oiT Peter I^ly, inscribed on the back of the can-
^w, (^merged from bentalh the old stretcher,
'-tUftnyrjne aci^uaint^d with the Stanhope pedi-
P*e enable lue to ideulifv the ori^nnal of my
Wmit? Sir Pet<-r Lcl/ died in 10^0, ictat.
witv-ihfee. The companion portrait, in a frame
wnitch, was that of Anne, daughter of John
yjunsoh Earl of Rochester^ married to Sir
'Jycis tlreville. This Eari of Rochester sue-
Jjwta to tjie title in \m.\ and died in 1680—
«t tome veur as Sir Peter Lely. whose name was
"•OiQicribod on her portrait.
T, Keebebt Notes, Jcjr,
SttDif 4?i Family.-^ John Sfcedman, the first of
owned Strata Florida Abbey in
taid to have come from Chepsey-
■',7/ StafTord^hire, then the property
'i'^*' 1 of Eaeei.
In the GmtlemanH Ma^azme of November, 1840
(p. 402), mention is made of John Stedman m
follows : —
" Statement of Accoaata on the ilealh of Walter Ewl of
Essex, (From the original, pcnea £. P. S.)
« Walter Dcv»?r<Mix, Earl of EA*ex, died at Dublin
Sept* 22» 1576 : his body wad brouj^ht f^r iiilemient to
Carmarthen, and aome of the Itainsof the ensuiag ac-
c<]uat rpJuie to the expended then incurre^d : —
** * Due to John StedmnDt hU L'p [Lordship'a] officer
as money lent to th^ Earl at his gomge into Jreland by
bill to be repaid at Mlc'ehns l:l^t* c'K
" * Actompte of John StedUian, imrpIusagQ of Joho
Stedman'aacc* upon his payment by warraut, xij^^* ix» vi*'.' "
Can any reader of " N* & Q," Madly inform me
where the original docuraeufc containing these
accounts is deposited, and who was the writer
under the initial " E. P. S,"?
One branch of the Steduiau family possessed
lands at Aston, in the county of Shropshire, in
1230, which stiU remain the property of their
descendants in the maternal line.
lIuBEBT Smith.
St. Leonard s, Bridg«Dorth.
Watcbes of Distinguished Mf.ii,— In 1835
there was in possession of Alderman Oharlt
Carolia, of the city of Dublin, a yery curious ol<
silver watch and brass chain. On the dial of the
watch was engraved '^Lieut-Gen. Cromwell to
Lieut. -Gen, Fairfax.*' The key was of curioQ
workmanship, and on it the cipher in relief
** U, C/' Can any of your Dublin correq>ondents
give any information as to what became of this
watch after Alderman Carolines death (circa
1840) ? 11. IL
'*Th^ World turned upside down/* oe the
Hakes takiko Vengeance on Maxkikd. — In
the last number of The Herald and O'cucahf/iat a
remarkable caricature — to apply that term to oil-
paintings— is noticed, of which the subject Ib
above ^-uted, Hares are represented huntinp-^
coursing, and slaughtering the human race; and
afterwards hanging, dramiigi q^uartering, roasting*
and J tigging, and leasting upon their disjoin tea
members. It is stated that such a picture is pre-
served at New House near Downton^ Wilts, one
of the old mansions of the Eyres ; and that another
was formerly at the Duke of Buckingham's at
AvingtoDj near 1^'inchester, and sold there bj
auction, I should be glad to know what became
of this picture*
There ws^ also, it is said, a similar picture at
Hampton Court in Herefordshire, the sect of the
Coningsbyes; but the triumphtmt animals were
there comes, or rabbits, which that ftxmilv boi"^
in their arms. Does this picture remain Dt Ilaxnp"
ton Court during the Arkwright dominion ?
**CAPRiciorsWRAT/* — Will tome cotres^cNTi^saiS.
be kind «;uougli U) ie^\^ lo ^V"t t'AViVv\i;^ ^i^x^r^
960
NOTES AND QUERIES. [A^^s.nhUAncnu.iu
aljocrt a sonnet which has lingered in a memory
Ibr more than fift j year* ? The only lines remem-
bered Bxe the fallowing : —
•* Cftpricjous Wrav a fonnel needs mast huTd^A sonnet !
Why, fourteen finet mtut then be ipcmt upon it.
*ri» well, howevef I to haxt conf[tiercd the finl fbor.
I want to know who ** Ciipridous Wray " is,
who ia the author of the ianaet, and where it
may be found, W. D. B*
JOEN KNOX'S HOUSE AT EBINBULGH-
(4*»» S. vi. 227,)
As no Edinburgh correspondent has replied to
Mb. G, J. De Wilde's renmrks on the inaccurate
version of the ini^riplioa oa John Knox a houfle,
and the perpetuatioiiof **an abeuid popular error
with reference to o figure near the wmdow • , , .
described as a rude emgy of the Ileforoier preach-
ing/' permit me to &tato a fact or two, perhaps
worth putting un record in your colimms.
Until 1850, when Knox a house was rescued
from deatiucUun, after the order for its demolition
had been issued by the Deim of Quild*— as the
Scottish civic oedile is called — the inscription was
concealed by a sign- board, and known only by
local tradition* The inaccuracies of the popular
version have thus found tlieir way into the guide-
book quoted by Ma* Be Wilde. If the sculp-
tured f gure on the angle of the building k now
as it originally wa/<, there can he no question as
to its meaning and relation to the inscription.
Mo«efl kneehj and receives from God — as repre-
sented by the blazing disc inscribed **eE02 . devs .
GOD. — the l*aw, as given from Sinai;'* while
under the cornice running round the building is
inscribt4 the summary of the Tea Command-
ments :—
TI . NTCUTBOYB .
' tVFK . OOO <
xnrnt
AS
. AL
TT ♦
SELF."
But the figure, as older Edinburgh citizens re-
member it, up to the above-named date, was
enclosed in a pulpit imd canopy, within which
appeared ouly the upper pai-t of the prest3Ut figure
with upUfteJ hantl, as Ln the attitude of preach-
ing; and the whole was painted so as to seem t<j
f be carved out of the same block. It is accordingly
I described in l>r, ilobert Chambers' Minor AfUi-
^gtiifieSj 18iS3, as *' an elijgy of Knox b the attitude
of preaching/' and it was universally regaixled as
tuck
The restoration of the old house to its present
condition was carried on undt^r the superintend-
^ce of the late Ala^tcr Mason for Scotlandj Mi.
James Smithy KS.A. Scot, in coniunctioii -wix^i
myself, then SecrilRir of the
ries; his servict*, I may iv
gratuitoualy. The removal uf \
additions ressfcored to light the insc
sculptured arms and initials desciiU^ by y^ia
correspondent. On removing the pulpit, woidi
al?o proved to be a modern wooden addition, it
was tound that the lower part of the figure had
been chiselled away to admit of this i*pimoui
supplement. Its restoration was entrusted to me.
A mock of stone was inserted in the muiilAted
aoactt, and on thia the late Mr. Handv^ide Kitcliie,
tne well-known sculptor, a pupil of ^horwaldjcOf
carved the lower part of the hsuie £rotzi a sketdi
I supplied* The space, as will be seen, was aujy
suihcient for a kneeling llgure, if the lower luaoi
were to be show^ ; and though n£K:eeearLly i ooft*
jectural restoration, I believe it to be correct
The house is believed to have been occaaied
by George Durie, abbot of Dunfermline, kioit|
Knox's time ; but no ancient titles exist, nor i
there any description in later deeds to fumiijb I
clue to the original occupant The arms tat v>t\
those of the abbot The double initials iiulwd '
rather point to some wealthy citizen, who bi
placed his wife's alongside of his own. The sira'
are not to be found in Neabit, but ought t^ ;vi i
of interpretation by some of your hi i
respondents. *' A chevron between 1
three crowns," is Mb, De Wilde's dc^cnpu m,
but according to a fdcetch made by me whea llw
arms were nrst exposed to view, tbe srKn!i"'i
trees are flowers — qualrefoils or rosea j and
three crowns are on the chevron. The iuitsiil
IM . MA.
The perpetuation in the local guide-bnf>V ■
old inucciu-ato version of the inscripti
years after its correction by the disclo? r
onginal; is no novelty im anti(}uariaa exponenc^
A remarkable imstance came under my oUserrt*
tion when writing the life of Chattertnn. Iw
satirical will, lirst piinted by Cottle in l&X^^ witi
many inaccui*acics, contains the ioBcripliou diiO^
tuted by him for a monument to himself; ii»i|
although the original MS, is preserved in ih*
Library of the Philosophical Institution at llri*l^J*
and accessible to all, the incorrect vexsion ol ti*
inscription, according to Cottle's mi^tprint, wai co^
on the poet's monument erected in 1B40 in B«l*
clifle churchyard. As that inscription disappoW
on the removal of the monument in i' " '"^
of the restoration of Hedclille chur^l
not yet been recut, a reference to the t.*.^^. . •• -
is advisable, Daniel Wilsoj.
University College, Toronto.
PARODIES.
(1^*» &. tL 47C; Til. 15, m5, 177.)
1810 wa^puljlkbed, ^thout RUthor*s name —
it TraTMtk: ia Tlire« Acta. With AnnotA-
Jobnioa snd ti€a. Steeveaei, Eaq^ >ii<i other
lis.*' Lomdotiy V2nm.
■PIre trriter was John Poole of Paid Fry <*cle-
IritT. It was verr popular, and ran through dx
jediriong in about "as many yeara. A private aud
ibeautifal reprint Tras prcKluced in New York 8o
late as 186*5, Other parodies of Hamlet have
KiDeiiTed, Tiz. t Hfimlct ; d J\>ir Burksque. London,
1898,1^0: and JlmnlH TravatHe, in Two Act Ji,
184a, I^mo.' Mr. Hall \vill find, from AlliboneV
Ti- . ' 'hora (vol. ii.), that most of Shakespeare'e
0 been bnrlesqued.
iiirtc 1!* an artide on **Pnrodj" in the WeH-
J?rOT«P toT July, 18^34, C. W. S.
tiles JoUup the Gra%*e, and Brown Sally
^ is a pjirody on the universally known
the Brare^ and the Fair Imogene."* The
' both original and parodv, M. G, Lewie,
ffte introduction to 'Hiiles Jolfup,"* &c. (Taki
tf Wonder, written and collected, by M, G. Lewis,
Kttffid edition^ 1801, p. 27) thus remarks :^ —
...... I laiwt arknowIetlgCj bawcTBr^ tUftt the lines
piiMfld ID ttalkAt and the idea of* milking an apc^thecary
ttftlM knight, mad a brewer of ibc b&ron, ore taken froTti
' r which ippcared in one of th<? newspapers under
of * l*n-Garlic the Bravo, and Brown Cdti^thic/ "
in the author of the last-named pnrody,
llQ what ** newspaper'* did it appear?
It ly 10' lif the samo volume tliere is a ballad
^ Cinder King/' with a few Intro*
vations by M. G. Lewis : —
■Tljo foUowiaig^ was sent to me anonymouely. The
tt«4« win of conttc observe that it ia a burlesque imitJi-
f the bolhidjs of * The Erl King * and ♦ Tlie Cloud
ktler ballads, aa many of youT readers
are, may be found in the above-mentioned
flanjlet'y BolUoquy Imitated," by Jago, ia
ingenioiiis satire affecting those persona
^er« are con tiuu ally itching' to scribble ;
1 whom, to only have their works on the
' with Quarles, &c,, i« *^ a consummation
. itly to be wished/^ See Eleaant Extracts,
lid edition, London, 1790, boot iv. appendix
BL J4 Peret,
iiltliBm Abbev*
i shelf 1
t Mnginn concluded *' Christab«jl " in Bhck-
t?. Can it bt? had in a separate form ? 1 think
^piiodjr quoted by A. J. DuNiclx was called
pfc^ii<fl4c*fj and was an 8vo, with ** lots of fat/^
*'<• wide margins to the pa;^ei It was verj'
* '^Tbis wa« CiYt pnbLished in the tiuid volamc of
funny — Ilartlev Coleridge evidently was cogni-
simt of the autfior, S, 1\ Coluridge used to say that
the burlesque version of —
" ChriBtabQl law the lady'» eye.** —
was admirable. Another word was subfttitnted
for ** eye/' and the sequent line waa the same aa
in the ori^insL The autlior of ChriMahcss waa
never divulged ; but it ia supposed thfit it was a
coin from the same mint as the parody on Pater
Bdlj which came out almost simultaneously with
the real ** Simon Pure." There ia a German
parody on Chridtihdj but I know nothing about
Its merits, STEpm^y Jackson.
I poftsesa a copy of the parody inquired for by
Mk. IUll, It is 'entitled —
" Ilamlet Travestie : in Tbpp« Acti. With Burlesque
Annotations, after tb^ Manner of Dr. Johnson anrl Geo.
Stee vent, Esq^ aod the various Commentators. By George
Poole, Esq.
* Quant urn mntatas ab illo.' — Virglt,
* CoraroentJitors each dark passage shun.
And holtl their farthing caudle to the sun.*
Young,
" Third Edition. London : Printed (qt J. M. Richard-
son, No. 3, Comhill, opposite the Koyol Ejtchangc* 181L"
It contains the well-known lines : —
** Three children sliding on the ice,
AU on a aumm«r^A day/* &c. &c. *
R. Mc. 0*
Liverpool.
AKTIQUITY OF LADIES* CHIGNONS.
(4** S. vu. 93.)
The rjuotation from Artemidorus given hy Mb,
Mac Cabe, as cited by Pr.Pfaile, is quite correct.
In the original 'the pasaag^ is : —
TplxAs *x*^ M<7^^o* «fal KttXkt teal iw* ainali orydK"
KfffCai ajaBhif ^Jt^iffra yvyaiKi ' vrlp yap ft>40p^«S
From the very eparing mention of the addition
by Greek and Uomnn ladies to their bead -dress of
borrowed locks^ it would seem that the prac-
tice was but little known until the days of general
corruption and extravajrance under the Cmsars,
That a grest variety of hnir-dressiDg fashions ex-
isted before this time there is abundant evidence,
but these seem to have been all based on the prin-
ciple of maMng the very beat of the covering which
nature had ^ven to the ladies' heads, whether by
dj-eing, curbng, plaltmg, or rolling, or by the ad-
dition of various ornaments, nets, bands, fillets, and
tiftras. Ladies* hair was artificially cn^p^ (" irisfe
de mille noMid^, cren^s et tortillfs^' t) in the time
of the empire, ana even earlier, and by that
empire,
* Artemidtjnjs, Oneirocriticat i. 19, €d. 1608,
4to, p. 21.
t Konaftrd, Le wcowd Litre dc» Ainowi^l.
Latiet.^
262
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4'* s. vii. malch is^fl
means, and by tlie use of the suhdmditres so well
underbtood and bo extensivelj used at tbe present
dav, therft u no doubt that a large oppnTent
Tolimie of Lair was produced without any actual
addition of the raw mntenal. No references to
passaf^es in \Tbich the latter practice is mentioned
are given in Smith '« Dictionary (art. '^ Comre ")j
and the onlj allusiom which I can find me in Ma-
nilius ; •
** niia cura em rultus frontisqae decora
Soinper erii^ tortosque in flexum ponere crin^,
Alii nodia revocnre, et mrsua Venice d«neo
Fig*rre ctoppi^sitis cjiput emutare capilUs: '*
und in Clement of AlexftDdria^t In this paisaRff^i
after ridiculing the dcTices of formin;? artificial
chains and plaits of hair, which were of bo ciiriona
and complicated a nature that a lady dared not to
touch her back hair le»t the hair-pins should fall
-out and the whole affair come to grief, nor go to
sleep le.*it the fehould spoil the general effcet of
her coi^ure, he declares that the addition of the
hair ot cthera is entirely to he condemned^ and
that it is the htig'ht of impiety to attach falae
look^ to the bead, thud clothing the skull with
dead tresses.
•*For upon whom does the priest then loy liamU?
whom do^H he blcsa? Xi>t thf woman who in su ailonied,
forioothf ftut the hair uf some one elst, and, through thifl
hair* some unknown peraon. If the man be the head of
the woman, and Chrbt the licad of tfio mnn, is it not most
impious that the women »hou\i\ fall into thia double ma ?
In thjit they deceive thu men by t lie excels he mass of
hair, and, a-i fur as in them Ik-s cast «iliamc on their Lord,
wUiL'41 thi^y adopt fdlsta and meretriciou5 adornmentit and
make that head accursed which h ongmidW beautiful.'*
The paBeage iii Juvenal mentioned by Mr.
Mac Cabe refers apparently to that method of
diessiDg the hair in which a mass of little curls
rose to a great height from the forehead, but were
not cai'ried back farther than to the centre of the
head, where they were suddenly teniiiimted by a
^flltet or mitt'tij the hair at the baclr of the head
being drawn back tightly and confined in a knot.
The eiiect of tbi^ arrangement would be exactly
that described by Juvenal : the body, as seen
from b^hind^ would seem to be of her real height,
a& the autenor structure would hardly be visible,
whilst from the front she would have a most im-
posing: and stately appearance. The celebrated
jjem of Evoduj?, re pres^en ting Julia, the daughter
of Titus, exactly illu^^trates tbi$ method of dressing
the hair.l: JoBif Eliot HoDGKnf,
West Derby.
• Attriffii^micur. lib. v*
t Ftcdaijogutf lib, iii. ed, lfll6, fo,. Lugd. Bat,, p* 182.
X Described nnd engmvcd in King's Handbook ttf Em-
ff raved Gemt.
THE BOOKWORM,
(4«*'S. vl627; tiL 65, 168.)
The ravages of the bookworm have atti
the attention of bibliographers in all age**,
notices of the insect may oe found in many ^o
but as yet I have not come across anytbiog m
factory ; and as the subject merits the altentiooj
all who either possess or have char^ of Ixri '
lections of books, I propose to lay before the ]
of "N, & Q." my own gleanings respecting '
little pests*
The mistake that most observers have fallen
into is in supposing that there is only one inwct,
the bookworm proper, which attacks l>ooks. Tlini
Dibdin, in the Bibtioffraphical iJvcam&im, give* I
lon^ and amusing-enough deecription, but whiek
only sufEces to prove that neither he nor hii ia*
formants at the great public libraries to which be
applied were aware that there was more than odi
insect,
Aj?ain, some of your correspondents in tbek
recent replies evidently refer to the ravages of dif-
ferent pests; for one of Ihem talks of the little worm i
going only so far into a volume and then atopplog
and excavating a circular cavity. Now the W(i:fll [
proper never does this ; he goes on ateadily in • I
straight line, his thirst for lit**rftture unabftted till J
he has gone through an entire Fhelf, if undif turkit ]
We read (Hannett, Bihliopegxa, r^uoting Pt^i^ot) i
of twenty-seven fcdio volumes perforated w • \
straight line* in ?uch a manner that on p^ssbg ij
cord through the perfectly round bole mad*- bH
the insect, the whole twenty-seven could be nii?W
at once. This must have been done by the vorffl
proper. I have often observed similar perfori*
tiona running through several consecutive folio*
of divinity in my father's library, Hannett ittate*
distinctly enough that there are severnl insecli
He mentions the AgloMa piitffttinatist wliicli <l8'
posits its larvie in books in the aulumn, vbuH
Svoduce a kind of mites ; but says that the mc>4
estructive are the little woo3- boring beetk*^
Aiwhium perfiiia.r and A, striatum, Mr*, Gattj*
in n note to one of her most charming '* Parnble^**
says r —
*' A bookworm — tlie larva of HypnthenemuB rmdttfiu^
Not hut that there ore several other lar\it of the rtA I
which bore minute holes througb wood,^ le«th«;r, tt»
pnptT."
Here we have at least four insects named, so v«
must trust to some of your readers who are*killo<l I
in entomology to give us more detailed accouati '
of them, and of the readiest way of distinguisluAj
their traces. No doubt one or two of the^ ^
much more frequently met with than the otheii
The following most interesting account of t^»*
particular insect pests which have inflicted terioitf
damages on the rare and curious books in Hcref ^fl*
Cv^\V«^it\ \k%& "Wi^^^ds^lY commuuieat«id to 0* 1
i«i»8.VILMAnca25,71.J NOTES AND QUERIES.
263r
by the Rcr. F* T, HuTerg&l, tlie librarian, wbo
hM also fiiToured me with some apecimens of
Kodent wood and paper perforated in the most
extraordiniuy way* 1 am sure my brother readers
of ** N« &^ Q,/' will be as mucb interested in ila
perusal ni I hftie been, so with Mr. HayeigaFs
Jcind permission I lay it before tbem : —
I If €hATg6 of our Cathedral library in 1853 I
f rtic fifty or sixty rolumes wore being de-
*iic_, ._ . V ,. - umc rer\' enerecttc little mflccta. In order to
s«ve the books so attacked, I determined, after turainj;
orer ererrleaf to make sure there were none of the in-
•ects k« ' I nd after brnsbin!:^ away all the apcumn-
latioQ < jcd Within them, to isolate the bookii
cnmji!, * .l..^r immense trouble, by jiving the ia-
f<r 1 g^ood shiking every time I went to them,
1 ; :^ at lost eradiciitct] the little peata from our
libr-iry. ^ome Tolnmes, indeed, which I had rebound,
won afterwftnb attacked by the wurm«, eo I am con-
viti'Vil th;,t nothing but the Vigilance of the librarian will
>: wn.
•^rvationa extending over eighteen year* 1
c •Uowing oonclasions : —
ur books were bein^ destroyed by at Icaat
l-^. . . f insect*; one Btmilar to, if not' identical
wiik, tbt • death-watch/ These insects have a hard outer
dsis, atid ane of a dark-brovrn colour. They perforate
W00d« no matter how old or hard. I hare never found
llMAi losectir- worms they arc not — nlive and at work,
h-A I havx> found the ri'maina of hundreds of dead ones.
h tlic wcKjdeii corera of the old books harhourecl
II the fir-it inetance, whence they proceeded into
Uif iiir< ' ' books. Sometirat^R they seem to have
r^^ ! the book, but generally the} inflict
e\- ^^e on the thirty or forty leaves next
'■■ ■ ' 'ver*.
kind of insects seem to me to be genuine
i?'v*worir ?, I have found at Uaal a dozen of them alive
ttJ u active m possible. They are exactly like the
'Hlk ^.rois or zrub3 found occa'slomdly in hazel- nut§.
white tMMliejt with brown spots on the
rally po right through a volume, never
I cavity in one place,
y to tell whether tlie worm hat been
I m tlte volam*». Some hooka had been
pacd flgc5 agt* . from these the dust waa altogether
9^ Oilier book*, which had been pierced perhapa
■ "^'" '-'^ ''v vears, had the worm holes with dust
donr ; but books recently perforated
-are white. Thus in a moment I could
H ,u actually in a volame, or if it bad been
irk,
- i: .: -. ,f jy,g^ ^J^J^ ppsts from a
ult matter lou may rest
rm, next to fire and damp,
that caii enter a library.
i^ts do not relish any modern paper in
•y do the far better paper which was
ii* 1530. Neither do ther penetrate
S bnt thi*y take special delight in the
i pally in those which have
Qod. The worthy men of
n they bound their grand
vith vellum over alb But
indcrs and their empbyers
►ice of materials for covers,
became a anre hatint for
rare tnfltanccf have the
oar MS. volumes of parch-
ry having been done to n
aingle volume out of 240. Thej' have in «ome volumes
tasted a few of the vellum leaver, but they never acem to
have rclii^hed the material in the same way they did the
ancient paper."
In a subaeauent commimicatlon Mr. Hayergal
informs me tliat be thinka he has found both
descriptions of insects alive and at work.
As regai'da the ravages of the bookworm —
using the word as descriptive of the class of insecta
which drill holea in our most precious volumes —
the above lucid account leaves nothing to be de-
sired* But I hope it may be the means of eluci-
dating some entomological notes from those of
your readers who are folio wera of Kirbv and
8pence. F, M« 3.
I had often wished to see a bookworm, when,
about twelve years ago^ while examining in the
Bodleian some old black-letter fragments at that
time kept loose in a drawer, I disturbed a plump
little fellow whose ravages were hut too apparent.
He was about the size of a full-grown grub^ such
ft5 we find in nut^, white all over, with very glo5tiy
head, hard to the touch, and slow in motion. I
made a small paper cage for him, intending to
wfttch carefully his habits and development.
Seeing the chic^f librarian appronch, I turned out
my little captive upon the table. " Have you
met with many of these fellows, Dr, Bandinel ? '*
I inquired. "Oh, yes," he replied ; 'Hbev have
blnck heads sometimes/* — ^and before I could say,
a word my biographical intentions were frustratedjJ
for down came the doctors thumb- nail, and nlT
that was left of my little pro tegd was an elongated
smear* William Blades.
Ill Ahchuich Lane.
BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD.
(4*" S. vii. 107.)
A few weeks ago I heard an excellent clercy-
mnn notice this subject, in one of a series of lec-
tures nn the chapter 1 Corinthians xv, A» he
brought together various explanations of this
** most difficult naeaage/' some of the readers of
*' X. & Q." may m interested to read his remarks
as they were written down afterwards from
memory : —
" . . . . The words of this verse are certainly ditTleuU.
If T were to try and give you all the explanations of
various writers on it, it would occupy all day. I wilH
only name a few. According to some, (l) by * the dead*
is intended Messiah, *the dead owe'; an 'instance of
the ploral being used for the singular. (21 Others say
bnptizinfjf h to be taken as an allusion to tne custom of
washing and purifying the dead, that they might bs i
prcpar^ for the liesurrection, (3) Others, that it s'v^^
nifies to be baptized as dead into Christ by baptism, and
regarded as dead by immersion. (4) Others refer it to
the custom of a vicarious baptizing of some one, for
such as might have died without hope. This view v<*.%
held by Ambrose, , , , . au4 \s xeXwiwSk. \«> M ^t^Itv^
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
AS a coaUm of that Umo* Bat here are obvious diBkul'
ties. , . . . It lA vcrj' dear from hi»lury that it was not
a GOfltom of Apostolic ik^s. Nor can wc suppose Paul
would comitenaTice sucb a practice. The cuatotn more
probttblj oroflfi from erroneous interprotalion of thii
Tene, And here I may obaerre ttiat many crroneouA
Sractioea have arisen from false interpretation of Holy
cripture. ..... Two other ideas iecm to me more
Slaunble. (5) One from a similar uae of the same word
1 Matthew xs. 22, 23, regarding it as meaning iuSerin^,
being overwhelmed with trials. It was certainly so with
the ApofltlMj bwfluae they spoke of, and expected, thnt
the d^ would arise. It is dear thin belief did expose
thflm to danger, and that it was the fiiith of all who pro-
fesMd GhrisL And they would be alow to hclieve tbrir
Sftflferings were for naughts This suits soniewhat with
the following Terse. Btn then it is not the literal mean-
ing of the word, (t") Others say the meaninjjr ig, baptized
with the hope of resurrection from the dead. It was
certainly a badin^ article of the Go^el . . . and if any
denied thi^ they deoied an essential truth« and struck a
blow at Chri^tinnity. Thus, the Apostle as it were asks,
* were all the hopes of believers to be Tain* ? (J) '^Y^-
dale's version says * baptized nvcr the dead/ (S) l>>d-
dridge says : * Such are our hopes and views as Christiana,
efsCf if it were not ihv what ahuuld they do who are
httpiised in token of their embracing the Christian fttich
lit the room of the deadf who arc first fallen in the cause
of Christ, bat are yet supported by a succession of new
convert*, who immediately offer themsdves to fill up
their places, m ranks of soldiers lliat advance to the
combat in the room of their companions, who have just
been slain in their sight? If ihQ doctrine 1 opposfj be
true, and the dead are ju>t raited at alt, ti'htf art tltey
fwreriheleMS thus baptized in the room of the dead, as cheer-
fhUy feady at the peril of their lives to keep up the
cause of Jesus in tlie world ? * There are many other
views on the subject. I do not say any are exactly
satisfactory to my mind. The idea seems literally that
of f ub&titudon ; the same word i* used in tliia sense,
Philemon !3, and 2 Cor. v,% And Uii* seems in accord-
ance with Doddridfje: that the biipti^jm was vicarious
(it not for the individual deceased, but for the position
c. had occupied* to M up hia place in the Church and
the world."
la not tbo paB^age illustrnted familmrly to us
all when, on tLe death of one who lias been active
in religioua or philanthropic otibrta, we offtir or
aa^ others to otTer to faJie up the tcork of the
decetoedP Thia falls in with the idea of Br.
Doddridge as aUove quoted, S. M. 8,
I
country. ?rol>«bly the Dowager Dochftss of Leedi
could and would graciously give the mfonfiaUoo
deaired, and corroborate Madame Boitft|iarte'l
ana war traosmitted by Mr. James L. Bavlieei.
1*. A- L,
Tbze Baltimore UfD * ' 0 ld Moetautt " Pateh-
80NS (4^^ S. vi. 187, 207, 290, S54 ; vii. 60.218.)— I
regret not to be able to give Dr. CKAUFrRD Tait
Kamage the information he wbhea to have with
regard to the I'attersona of Baltimore, When I
was there, for a short 8pac« of time only, in 182B, a
French gentleman, now dead unfortuTiately, did
me the honour nf presenting me to the venerable
and last survivor of the signers of the Declaratiou
of American Independence — Charle3 Caroll of
Carollton, as also to his maternal grandaon Mr.
Jerome B. Patterson ; hut our acqiiaiutanee was
transient, and I had no occamon to make any
inqabj respecting their connection -with Cke o\\i
[We ttre eure all oitT feaderi will j^rn us in a ^mtlf
welcome to our valued oorre^ioadeiit on bis rfr-apfnamM
in these columns ; and in oar hope that the new LroaUli
which threaten bis adopted home may be happily averbd
Ma CA flat's Ballads (4** S. Tii. 235.)— I nfTor J
before heard of a ballad by Lord MacMilay oaj
**The Siege of Hochelle/* nor do I bolii?ve q»J
was ev^r written by him. The line quoted —
** And thou, Rochelle, our own Kochelle," Arc^
is ft line in the firat veree of the ballad of ^' Ivzy.**
H. M. TaETELTlir.
e, Grosvcnor CreaccatT, S.W.
Likes on the IlmtAjr Eak (i*^ S- xii. 235.)— I
These lines, entitled " St. Pancras' Bell/' vWA
E. L. is good enough to call clever— 1 know ibt J
their author thought them »o when he was tDi^ J
ing them — were mine. These two facts art ifl 1
that I can give at present. I cannot icmemlwl
where the verses appeared, and I have no oopjof J
them. They began —
"A sound came booming through the air:
* What is that noise P* said I.
Mv blue-eyed pef^ with golden hair,
^adc answer presently," dfc, Jtc,
** Lethe is a brave river,'* If, howeter^ I WC*
reed in fishing out of his waters anything eli^ to
the purpose, I will, with the Editor's permlattdtti
present it to the " N. & Q.'' museum.
SHUtLBT BBXXO^
launch Office.
Plojt^Plok : L¥-Lu C4^»* S. vi. 233,)-Th«i
nicknames, like so many others, originated irlta
the persona themselves when they nrst begaai^
apeak, and could not pronounce their otm nanii^
Thus our celebrated painter Paul de la Borf*
was baptised " Ilippolvte/' but used when qailol
child to cftll himselt'* I*oV' which he kept thtot»j*
life^ and ultimately used to sign his name ** Paoir
although when he had a legal sign-manual to
he wrote it Hippolyte, P. A-
« fes" A77n '*Eir'' (4*" S. tL 8CN3, 514^ ml
193.) — A French physician, a professor ill j
government fici entitle establishment in Patk, I
staying at my house, tells me that et is oef "
except with a plural noun, thus, '^ Bacl
Lettren/' "^ Arts;' *'Docteur en Droit."
Droit*^* Any one using Hie latter on his <
say 8, would be wrong. P. Ls Nsrs T
Vannier in his Didiommite p'amniati^^l »y»*
** iV, artidf ruur um /rj, at qolji'aild^a
qn^en style uji u ile palais*
L i^^uc maiUft %.v\ ...:. .— ,1 ~j.ui les arts.**
11
.vu.M^ciii^7L] NOTES AND QUEEIES.
J^wl et Chxpicili Nmvcau I}4ctmtmai}'e^ do la
flMfWMf fnmqaisaj mv tht same tbing. ''JS'j^ cou-
aeticia de en et de Ics, dims les, umt^ ^ule-
ent duns Mai tre-^-orts. On dit Dociour en Th^o~
jk«^rc»/.'» P, A. L.
^^^■B engfifnir'a work canDot and ought not,
PH^BfTK^ be taken as ^* proofa of holy writ."
ifW dft^n Jo we not tee Leraldic blunders in
Mto of arms, albeit they were engraved con-
na]>ly to the '* copy ^' given theai for thut
f by persons i^ho knew no better ?
Aetificiax Fi.r-Fisiii50 (4*^ S, vii ICl.)— I
Bar PiOJkGXUd must ^tisfy himself with the
boJe of St yUbans as the ui^r/^ta r^u/# of ily-
ftJiini.' I'.r* m Enfrland* From thence he may
lae, to the clasiiic lands — to
.in the latter*8 ** Uiatory of
yumak" iio will meet with the II7 hippurut^
od learn how it was made by the 5lacedomim
msfleta on the banks of the river Astreua.
Ibere can be little doubt that the invention of
lie artificiAl fly ia of very ancient date. Who
iMl my, ine*<?ed, how soon after the fall of man
'ire of the fiaberman fi^^t fell on the
Eden? How^old ia the sport? ia
l4Qe!tion coutinaally aekisd. Probably aa old as
pigfT. T. WlSSTWOOi),
ihmis Jomr BLisox (A^ S, vi. 2i)0.)— Capt
Hiiaa died in Ijoudon between Nov* 20, 1(W5,
Ifid Dec. 22, l(m. His will bears the former
lata. In it is A request tliat he shall be *^ buried
a tke colle:,aat© church of St. Peter's in West-
*' He eta tea that he was bom in Kinglyni
Qi Korfolkf and mentions hb *' couain Dr. Robert
faeon, Chancellor of the dioceae of Wiiicheater/'
od his brotlier-in-law John Wollaston, 1 wi/»h
ame one could give me more particuJare of Capt
and his ancestoca. C. W* Tcttlb.
M*5'iLAUoaTKii Alfu Cold Iboit (4^^ S. i, 147.)
0 Juoe 13, 1710. General Macartney was tried
r being coneomea in the murder of the DuIob of
iltou in a duel, and was acquitted of the
bug^hitr "by tbe formality of a cold iron
imtnediatdy afterwards to prevent appeal/*
cofre^ondient mquiiee for the oatuxe of this
an Act of Parliament which remnined im^
M until 1822, the crime of manslauig'hter
I> * by burning the himd of the perpe-
by another Act, remaining in force
i^i'»j It was lawful for the person injured
otfence to prosecute the supposed ofiender
rn V :A^ as we shall preaently see, at
mdently of any other proceed-
nca ixiiuuL have been instituted against
This process was called an appeal^ and waa
tt^ to only in tbn?e cases— hjr a nran for a
wrong to his ancestor, by a wife Cor the death of
her husband, and for a wrong received by the
appellants themaelras. Consequently a penon
accused of murder, manslaugliterf cutting or
wounding, though acquitted by a court of juisttioei
was liable to be tried afresh at the auit of the
deecendant or ,widow of the ill-us«d individuali
or, supposing him to have ei^caped with a whole
skin, at the suit of the ill-used individual himaelfi,
The acquittal of the suppoeed offender, after all
thia legal machinery had been set in motion
against liim, was a very serious affidr for the pro-
secutor, who, by a atatute of Edward I.^ was
obliged to restore damagei^ pay a fine to the king,
and suffef imprisonment for a year. To stmi up,
it would appear that in the caae of General Mac-
artney, in order to prevent the occurrence of tbij
oppressive mode of prose cuti on | the sentence of
the law was carried out^ a cold iron being Uhed
instead of a hot one, Jullls Sbxsuias.
'* SKBKBmO UPOIT A Gl»A\"B GlATTE^T " (4*** S.
vii* 121.) — Wedgwood gives, **To Jtkir, To glide
or move muckly. — B. To jfraxe, »ldm, or touch
lightly,— Hal/' The latter is a Somersetshire use-
The word is also in Peacock's Lotadnls Ghs$m-yf
edited by me, with the meaning ** to slide on the
ice/' and the derivation ** Gael. -«|/io/T, slide; Manx
sktr^ slip, slide.'' I do Dot find it in the Leeds,
Furnese, Whitby, Craven, CleveUnd gloasariee or
in Brockett. Glavo is given in Ualliwell, **Giaff^
smooth, polite, — Xorth,'* and is the Dan. dial.
^Pf smooth, Molbeck^s example is '' Ileatene
©re ffhppe^ og iltke broddede " (the horses are
smooth (shod) and not roughed; in Cleveland,
"slape-shod and not frosted.**) Glatten is from.
Swea. ffifttt^ Dan. fflatj Germ, olnttj smooth, slip-
pery— a word applied specially to ice by the
Danes. J. 0. Ajkutbos,
Danby la Clevdoad.
Lord Plunket (4"' S. vii. 93, 190.)— Your
correspondent Mr. Prowett agrei'S with Lord
Brougham, the Quarterly reviewer, and (of course)
with Lord Plunket in maintaining the sense of the
image of Time with the hour-glass and the scythe.
Ms, Prowett is therefore in worshipful company.
Ho will, however, pardon me for assuring him
that the image ia nonsense, and that he fails in
his attempt to vindicate it from that imputation.
The statutes of limitation have nothing to do
with the loas of the oHtjinal grant or of any grant^
but were enacted to protect the man in possea-
Fion, and he (the man in possession) does not lose
his estate by reaaoa of the loss of any tpant
which the scathe of time has destroyed, but by
the production of some grant by an adverse claim-
ant, which the Bcythe has omitted to destroy. K
Mb. Prowett will a^k any competent prooerty
lawyer on the point, he will not ^timfttrndafeai-
ing what ia demonattabVv mM«Tisv\Aft*
3
266
NOTES AND QUERIES, l^«^ & vii. Makcu 23?
Pedestrian Fiat of Faraday f4**» S. viL 140.)
The moat extraordinary thing in this walk appears
to me to be the fact that so great a man as Fara-
day should have scampered through some of the
most awful and grand scener}- in Switzerland with
the speed that might excusably have been used
by a letter-carrier or a %in^-post. I paaeed oyer
the same ground in a single day a few jeais ago,
Btarting at six a.m. on foot, from Leuh in the
valley, a greater distance from Thun, and break-
ing my fast at LenJcabad at the foot of the Gemnii.
But I loitered some time in mniiBg that matTel^
Ions ascent, and a still longer time about the dead |
sea at the fcumniit, where X lunched in a wajslde |
inn ; and after dining at Kunderste^ or Frutigen,
I forget which, set oif for Thun, which I reached i
late m the eyening^ haying had the good fortune
to meet with a lift for the latter part of my soli-
tary walk. I certainly felt no ill eilectJ? from
fatigue, but I did not race against time. W. H. S.
Pbince Pceckler Mu3iCAtr (4**^ S. yii. 77.)—
Ivan will tind a list of Prince Puckler-Muskau's
works in Vapereau's Diet, des Contcmporaim and
in the Conversatims Lexicmif from which I have
condensed the following notes : — .
Prince Hermann of Puckler-iluekaUj the well-
known German traveller and horticulturist, was
bom in 1785, according to the Alnwnac (k Gotha^ \
and served in the army of the King of Saxony.
During the German war against ?^apoleon he
entered the Buaaian service, mstiuguiBhed himself
in the Netherlands, and was appointed military
governor of Bruges, Mter the restoration of
peace he passed a year in England, and then de-
voted himself on a grand scale to the embellish-
•ment of his propertv of Muskau in Silesia, which
tira^Bold in 1845 to trince Frederic of the Nether-
lands, His illustrated work on landscape garden-
ing (1834) was the first of these horticultural
labours. In 1817 Prince Puckler-Muskau married
a daughter of Prince Hardenberg, but divorced
her in 1826, and travelled during several years in
Eiurope, Egypt, and Syria. He now usually re-
sides on hia estate Branitz, in the circle of Kotbus,
where splendid gardens have been planned under
his direction. In 1603 he became a member of
the Prussian House of Lords. He has no chil-
dren, and his cousin ia heir to the title. The
best-known works of Prince Puekler-Muekau are
the Brief e c'ncs Vtrdorhmien (1831), in 4 vols. ;
Tntii fruit t\ *i vols. 1835; Setmla»iio in Africa j <!(t,,
in which he has described the aristocratic society
in which he moved in every part of Europe, in an
eni'y, conversational, off-hand, jovial tone, from
the point of view of a German nobleman, in a
atyla biistUng with wit, incorrect grammar, and
Gallicisms, A. K.
Ancient Buildings tit Kashmir (4*'* S. vi.
627 J vii. 110,) — The query about Kalee, the
Hindu goddess, will receive a partial answer from
the extract I supply. It Is from an anonymotu
t\rit Imprei
from
Impressions;
Bai
t^ m
work entitled
/«£/«^j, 1841: —
** 1 ought to kiLVG mentioned, as a regular orntmeatof
almoal every shop m the haijuir, a paltry woodcut, fnaiBd
and glaze J,' with a wreath of tawdry red flowers boo^
round it— a representation of the goddess KaUe. Sbe u
the tutelary deity of Calcutta, which is nflmed from her;
and »he is ihe great object of adorjition among the Thup
and Phaasegars, whose BysteDiaiic and wonderful plisc
of murder and subsequent robbery have fo lately beat
brought to light. Thia idol h represented black incoloaE
{kaia Bignifiea bliick)^ with four bauds. In one i
a knife ; in one a lotus, 1 think ; in another
elite; and in the fourth a human head, the
blood from which ahe is lappfntT with her outBti
tongue — an emblem but too typical of the bloody
connected with her worship. She stands on a piwt
figure, meantj I belteve, for that of Seera^ the Dcstro^w,
wnom she thus prevents ft-om annihilating the world/
All this I knew hefore, hut what does it ftll
mean ? Of what is Kalee the symbol ?
QUKRUZ,
P,S, Who 13 the author (an Indian aurg^on) ^
of this little work of forty-two pag«« printed I
Yarmouth P My copy bears the inscription **T
B. Holme, Esq.' thia* letter, originally addrcaKd j
to Sir Fnincis Palgrave's children, is, it ia ''^Jj
presented with peculiar propriety by the editor/
Added in another hand, *' Dawson Turner, Esq.y
yarmouth,"
Arms of Bknvenxtto Cellini (4*^ S. ti. i
Since I wrote the note at this reference I haT«o«*
tained the edition of 1830, published by Giiwe|ip«
Molini, which Mr, Koscoe used for his re-i*uB of
his translation in 1850, I find that the pwttp
which I mention in the second column, on p.^J
contfpning the words *' col campo di dette dntt^rl
ttands thus-^
" Toniando & quella che io fed fare nel sepokro H ■
fratello, era," &c., '* ccd campo di dctt* arme pirtlloj
quattro quarti, g quell* accetta the io feci fn solo f '
non mi 61 acordassi di fare le sue rendettc."
It turns out, therefore, that Molini hftd 1
nble to complete this passage from the MS., i
that a change had been made in the text, '
Mr. Eo&coe's translation in 1850 doe^ not f "
meaning of the passage. Mr. Roscoe saja
a field of the said arms divided in four qu
ThiB rendering does not give the meaainf I
Ccllini^B statement. In his Italian it is ctalte iT
telligible — *'co/ campii di detta arme^ partitoj
quattro quarti " ; that is to say, not witn am
but '^with t?w field of the said arms divided i^
four quarters.**
This is correctly stated, although Cellini omitl
to give the tincturea of the quarters. It is cunoi
to observe how thoroughly the Cellini seeia 1
have treated their anne as liable to be altered ij
their ovna pleasure. "La quale io Talterai d« q^
viLiLuicH 25,^1.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
267
propria/^ he eaysof himself^ and of others
die me la tnostro^ la quale era la zampa
tutto il restante delk dette cose : ma a
^cerebhe che si osserraaai quelle dei
weouR soprRdetta/ ^ Then fie goes oo
:. \ change which he made id the ai'ias
^ • monument, ** Toraando a qudla,'*
^** read J quoted. I). P.
'^ i?f EjiQLAifD (i^ S. vi. 505.)
T- tnvem at the foot of Shude
jilkd **Th6 Seven Stars,"
^en a licen^d house since
V which lies in Lancaster
'*ed the records of the
^ country licences were
>d. There ia ftl&o a
at the old church
\ collejG;iate church
the iifttenth cen-
1 jj'ot their dinners and
f en Stars.*' T. HfiLSBT.
.oD ScRKEXs (i^ a Til. 143.)— Add
^ «fc.ersey, Suflolk. At this church, dedicated
«if 9t MaiT, are remains of a fine rood screen,
wtlf nowpainted to correspond with the pews ;
uut fortunatelj the figures, consisting of three
•cdfidastics and three Viogs, have been left nearly
uatouched. These were considered so fine and
psriect that they were etched and published for
Ifce Suffolk Archajologicnl Society^ in Ipswich, in
184^ The engravings of them are well done, and
tb fix are thown in colours, C\ UoLi>mG,
The Setek W orders of Wales (4^^ S. vii.
U3,)^Why Over ton churchyard was one of the
wonders is little known to this generation. Fifty
ytwra «go it WAS a local joke to tfi^k the ability of
8^.i;jL'f rs \iy Qouut the yew-trees in the church-
11 accomplished correctly, as there was
lop of the church tower. U. 0 — k,
CtsTOMs AT Marriages, Bibths^ aud Funu-
T.. i.h c^ ^,*j 500^The customs* common in
I irty venr« ago so closely resemble those
• MjL 1 , ,_^i Highland districts, thai the interesting
^It* of your learned correspondent CurnnERT
^tni^ might be acxjepted as a general account of
briuf de»cnption of the difference between
ft may be worth insertbg in ** N. k Q."
\ Marria^ Ciutonia. — On the eve of the wedding-
i$K the meat intimate friends of the happy pair
xnel at the bnde^s father's house to take part in
the " feet- washing," which was looked upon as
gTeat fun.
A tub of water was placed in the best room
afid the bride's feet washed by her female friends —
the men. standing outside the door^ making jokes
and endeavouring to catch a glimpse of the opera*
tion. As soon as this washmg was finisheu the
bridegroom was brought in, and, amidst much
merriment, made to sit at the tub ; his stockings
were then pulled oil', his legs grasped in any but
a tender manner, and unsparingly daubed by all
who could get near with a mixture of gieose, sootj
ashes, and a few cinders.
There was great struggling to avoid this part
of the performance J however, it did not slacken
the energies of the company, and lucky was the
man who escaped with only slight scratches. The
"real washing" followed, and a supper, soDge^
and whisky ended the evening.
On the wedding-day there was no *' washing
of the bride," nor were any pipers seen at the
ceremony.
Baptismal OiHoms, — Before starting for tho
kirk the ** christening- piece,'' consisting of short-
bread, cheese^ and oatcake, was made up into a
while paper parcel tied with ribbons; this the
mother held m her right hand as she left the
house and presented to the first person met by
her, whether stranger or friend, gentle or simple.
The " christening piece " was always gladly ac-
cepted, and in return kind wishes were expr
for the future happiness of the child.
Ftmeral Cudotm. — The same as those described
by your correspondent, with the e,^ception of the
bagpipe-playing, which is seldom heard in thiM
part of the country. Another curious custom J
may be added to the foregoing : —
If a wife deserted her husband, he would never-
theless have his table spread for her at each meal,
and going to the door of the room, audibly invite
her to join him in partaking of the food prepared.
When ne had repeated this form for twelve months
and a day the marriage bonds were annulled, Tlnd
the man couM take unto himself another wife.
G. J. S. Lock.
RicHAKn Twiss: "To^r m Ireland'' (4»^
S. vii, 103.)—
"Whoe'er offeiid.-i, at some unlucky time
Slides Into ver$e, or hitches in a rhyme,"
as did Mb. Pnv'KEKTUN^s ''Tourist " ; on whom
Irish susceptibilities fultilled their Nemesis by the
agency of a speculative tradesman, with his Iront-
faced and open-mouthed p(h)otograph at the/w»rf
of a household implement, which assured its sub-
atantiitl as well as its nominal succees. Some
years ago I saw one of these in a private museum,
where it is still perh^a exhibitea to the favoured
few, with its epigraphic couplet — the Idst line
whert'of, and lis rhymal ** hitch " —
*• Upon lying Dick Twiss,"
though I could plead my kinsmanahip with the
very reverend rhymer who more than once verified
and versified its Jird in his Satires— is all that I
venture to tranacnb^ Coi " '^ . &. <^r ^.\** "^ *
i^ai
268
NOTES AND QUERIES. [*«' s. vii. Mxkch a*ti
"Tim
Trevebis' ** Grete Herball " (4^«> S. Tii. 10*2.)
On referrinjr to Lowndes' Bibiin^apheti Afarmai,
I find that your correa pendent's copy of tbe above
work is the second edition. Lowndes gives the fol-
lowing description : ** The Grtte HerhaL London
in SouLhwark by me Peter Treverii. 1516. FoHo.*'
Frequently repriated. The 1^20 edition is tbe
second. It was purcbosed at tbe Inglia sale for 3/.
C\ R, P.
Tjik PmEirix Thbonb (4»»» S^ vii 163.) —
Hevodotua does not connect tbe pboenix with any
tree (ii* 73.) Shakespeare may nave derived this
legend about the pbcenix from Philemon Hol-
land's transktion of Pliny's Natural Midonjj
book xiii. chap. iv. ; —
" I myself Lave bojircl straunge tlungii of thii kuid of
tree, and Damply in regiLrd of tbe binl phoemix, which h
fluppo«ed to have tukca that uAtne of this date tree ; for
it w*s ttssitred unto me that the said bird died with tlmt
tree^ mid reirivod of ititelf as tbe tree Bpmsff afi;min/'
Or from Lyly*a Bitphue^ : —
*' As there is bnt odo phr^nix in the urorldi io there i3
bat one tree ia which *he buildoth,*'
Or from Florio's Italian Dictiunartj (1598) : —
** Kaibin. a tree in Arnbia, whereof there u but one
founds and upoa it the phoenix sits,"
Shakeepare makes half-a-dozen other alltifdoiiB
to this fanuloiid bird; but none that bears on thia
poaaage ao macb as —
'* L<t the bird of londeat ky
On the «f>/jj Arabian tree,'*
in Tlie PammuUe Pilgrxm rxvii. or aut.)
It will he interesting to the readers of ^*N* & Q."
to know that in these versea (tirst printed with
Robert Chester's Hosabjiidc) Malone, on the ad-
vice of a ieanied friend, had intended to make
tbe alteratiun r—
" * Sole on (he Arabian tree ' ; on thcra are many Ara-
bian tn?es ond but one Arabian bird. Hut * nulla unquam
cunctatlo nia^a est/ for thia poasage in Tht Ttinpcst
supports the old copy."
X a I. Oaklet, iLA.
Croydon.
In Chalmers* edition of Shakspeare I fmd the
following note, which may be of intoresi to your
correspondent IVLufEOcastB : —
" Oar p<)et had probably Lyly*8 Eupkuen ami hig Emj-
land partictibrly in his tlionghra, d^nat, q 3 : * As thf^re
, is but one pbtcmx in the world, m is there bat one tree
pjn Arabia wherein she buildeth," See also Florio's /fo/wM
•IHtHonary^ Vym* * l^oj^in, a tree ui Arnbia, whereof
there is but oue found, and uptm it the pbcaniJt sits,' "
This note u attributed to Malone. C. R, P.
Becket*s Mukderers: Soateesetshjbe Tra-
dition's (4^'^ S. vii. 33, 171, 195.)— Of the gravea
on the Flat Holms mentioned by Mr. Townshend
Hatkr I have not heard, but the ** abbey *■ he in-
gnirea for was Worpprinp^ — now improperly called
Wood spring — priory, fomided about 1210 by Wil-
liam de (Jurtenai lot Anstin Canons who aban-
doned a bouse at Dodelynch in the eame coiml
The church waa dedicated to tbe Holy Trinity,
the blessed Mary, and St. Thomas the Martyr; ana
the tradition has survived that it was in expiation
of the murder of St. Thomas k Becket, the fon i1 r
^^h^in^ descended from William de Triici c :
is incorrect, as will he shown), and nearly rtUt'-a
to the three other ^ assaesinators * of the caanniaed
archbishop/*
In the Mon. Angl. (vi. 415) will be found a letter
t*> " J(oscelin) bishop of Bath" (1205-24), frata
^yilliam de Curtenai, detailing his intenlioa d
founding a convent ** where a chapel dedieated to
St. Thomas the Martvr stood in his own demaiM
of Worspryng/' for tte benefit of the sotils of Ini
father Robert (whose body rests there) and motktf|
his own, his wife's, bia ancestors^ and smccessortt
This Willittiu de Courtenai, ain ^tl--?
related, was «oi one of the Devon i . n-
rally supposed. (Pedigree by late Dr. Uiiv er Aod
Mr. Pitman Jones in vol. x/of Archi^ui /oonwt
wherein really neither he nor his fatli*>r ♦xscor,!
But I have idcnlilied him with that WiUian* do
Courtenay who inherited the honour of Manl-
gomery, and of whom some account may be fmuul
in the best of all coimty histories— Ey tons 6!^p-
ihire(id. 128), altbou^E he is not there n?ci»|iiii«
as the founder of this priory. He was dead, wilhoot
issue, 1214 ; and Ada, his widow, was reaiarrisd
to Theobald Lascelles. He was the only child of
Robert de Courtenavj by Matilda, daughter ittd
I Fitrurae, one of the aaaifcflO^
heiress of Reginald
from whom he inherited Worsprinff.
And I may further add, because it is also urslln
Collinson's Siomer^etshv'e, that the mother v\
ginald was Matilda, daughter and heiress of i
win de Boilers, lord of Montcomery^ by H \ hu .l
Falaise, Now in the Domesday Book i'*^> Ij i^''
read: *^ William de Faleise liimself holds Win*
Bprinp by consent of King William, ^txk iIb
Burci gave it him with his daughter.'*
Curiously enough I cannot show that WiUiiiB
de Courtenay was even related to WilUain d«
Trad, although I find that he was connected witli
the families of the two other assassins — Hugbda
Morvilo and Richard Brito. Margery, a astern/
Reginald Fitzurse, widow of Richard EngjdaBt
was remarried to Geoffrey Brito, and HuA dft
Morevile inherited his manor of Burgh-upon-5anJl
in Cumberland from hifi grandmother Ada Bi-
gaine* A. S, **
Brompton.
ClSTERCIAJf Mo^S-ASTERIKS (4*^ S, VlL 141.
The finest Cistercian abbeys m England U$
Fountains (described in Wal bran's /w/k-zik Ti
tern (Potter's Monastic Archit* !t'
(Chiu"ton's^6frey5 ofYork&hire^ A' .
Fumeag (Beck, and West, ei bv L \
Build was {Arch. Asmc. Journaly Aild. ^ I * f
Scarborough (Britten's Arch, Antiq,)^ an fiiieo
4»s.tilma«cii26,7l] NOTES AND QUEBIES,
269
Abbey, no monastic buildlnga left; Old Cleve
(Bev. T. Hugo, m Sam^irset Arch. Soe. Jour,^
tL 17,54; \\x, 72 ; Kiikstfil (Dr. WhiUuker'a Leed*^
fuid an account with Mulready^s drawings, 1827 \
Netlev i^^'\]k^' IlimU)^ OillauTiie'§ j4rrA. Views:
l>oro \0\ M, liii. 305; xcix. 497) ; YaUe Crucis
{Arch, Cumh. xiL401)j and Whallej (Dr, Whit-
IKordr Mereralo, and Croxden are described In
SB Journal of the BHL Arch. AMociationt xxi,
204, Tii- mL'4, and Foid in SomerM Arch. Soc.
J<mr, xiii. 40. Beadien bas the monastic build-
inp well preeerved. Sallay, JoreTalle, Byland
(Jour, Assoc. SfjCj Tii, 220), and Rocbe ret^
ShaM portions. (See Churtong Abh^s.)
ay Sairetl Archwohfft/ I hftve indicated the
peculiaritiea of the rule as it affected tlm
ire and arrangement of Cistercian abbeye,
and also the rnro and lat€r deviationa from the
rigid nniformity and epariug decoration iDsi^itd
Tipon bj this secluded order. The Ili^ory of
r, edited by xMr. Bond, the keeper of the MSS.
British Museum, with the Nommticon^
be consulted as well as Martene. The
of Fountains, Tintem, Netley, Fumesa,
mi Buildwadj Dore, Wh alley, and Vallo
cw HTG more or less complete x but all these
must vield to the unrivftlled beauty of tlie choir,
•nd tiie gran de in*, even in ruin, of the fratry of
Rievaulx, which unfortunately is the least ac-
cesfdbld.
Melro9a, Scotland (Wade), and Arch. Camh.,
^L, Till 74 ; Morton's Teviotdale^
Mackexzxb E, C. Walcott, B.D., F.S.A.
I latent and most correct account ii? A Guide
AUjey, fourth edition, 1870, edited by
Barber, w^th ilUistrntiona and ground plan^
published by D. Atkinson^ Ulverston. Anon.
Fountoins Abbey, near Ripon, is probably the
fineat Cistercian monMtenr in Eo airland, and there
i* a good account of it in Wal bran's Guide to
Mipon and Neu/hbourlwod.
J. T. FOWLEB, F.S A.
H«tJidd HatU Durham.
B editorial note refers the querist, A FoR-
to a description of the Cistercian abbey
I would also refer him to the Getttk^
Mmiadtnc (or Maich, 1 790, where he would
' TV and description of another
I bbey, that of Kirk stall in York-
: .iKi'^ h illuiJtrated by a well-exe-
cul :ig of the plan of the abbey. There
p^" ..V, hue pictinresquo ruina, moi*e or less
, of other famous Cistercian abheje in
J „ .1, of which the following are the most
lusted, which I place in the order of their former
^ue and importance : — Fountains, in Yorkshire ;
"Stratford Lanaihom, in Essex ; Buckfastre, in
Mrej Jare?al and Melsn^ Yorkshire ; War-
den and Wobum, Bedfordshire ; Riyaulx and By-
land, Y'orkahire j and Stonely, in Warwickshire.
F. C. H,
Bills actually presented (4'*" S, tiL 32,
132.) — The following- particulars were attached
to a County Court summons, about a year a|ro, in
a not very benighted port of the country. I cony
them vvt^baiim et Uin'aiim as they appeared, witK-»
out atop or break of any kind : —
^ M' laiah Morcran boat of M*"* Emma Mor^n 0B years
of stoon at wone shilling pear years X38 rent of ground
£17 reeeivd 15 fihillhig ana four half bushil of lioocr at
10 fthilliog pear buishU £10 lain of the Edije 18 shilling
the fool a Mount £115"
The sum claimed was 2/. 2*. C, S,
Site and the Whiteboys (4^** S. vii. 124.)—
I cannot answer the question which II, puts on
this subject, but I can give him an illusLmtiQn
which may perhaps dear the matter a little.
I have before me a copy of The Guardian of
June 7, 1831 — n paper published at Belfast.
Several columns of this paper are occupied with
accounts of Ihe outragea, either accomplished or
expected, of the Terrv Alts, a secret society which
at that time confined its operations to the county
of Clare ; but what I wi^h to call attention to is,
the variety of namr^s by which the membeia of
this society are indlcxited in the successive para-
graphs of one issue of a newspaper. They are
called "Terry Altd," *'Tevr[e?,^ "Mrs. Alt and
Children," '* Lady Clare*8 Clxildren/* " Terry Alt's
Men." The state of affidrs in co. Clare at this
period must have been terrible. The Dublin
Evening Mail mjs i *' We protest to God, we know
not what is to become of Clare.** W, H. P,
Belfjist.
The Veto at PArAL Elections (4**' S. vii,
103.) — It is observed in an in teres ting and care-
fully written French work on the Conclave, that,
*'by lon^ custom, the cardinals of Austria, France,
and Spain have the right of excluding any person
whose election they consider injurious to tt© in-
terest of their respective countries; but this ri^ht
they can exercise only once.*' This remains in
full force ; but I believe there has been no exer-
cise of it in late elections. F, C, H.
St. Wultkan (4*" S. vii. 162.)— Notwith-
standing the caution of A. 0. V. P. that the St
W 111 f ran for whom he inquirea must not be
confounded with his namesake, whose feast is
Martih 20, he may rest assured that they are both
one and the aame, the well-known Archbishop of
Sens. In the course of his search in the Acta
Sarictorum and many other books^ how came he
to overlook our own old Eoj^lish calendars and
Liturgy P There ho would have found that St
Wulfran*s feast, though kent in foreign chuichea
on March 20, was observed in the old English
rite on October 15* In the very early calendar
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4»»* s. vii. mauch 257
printed in Maftkell's Mmitmmta mtnaUa (ii. 180),
we find no St. Wulfran on Marcli 20 ; but on
October 15 we bave *^ S, Wolfran bLscbop and
confessour,*' And m tbe more copioua calendar
wbicb follows it, March *20 has obIv St Cutbbcrt,
just 03 we keep bim now in tbe Catbolic Ot^fk* ;
but on October 15 we find '*\VQlfranDi episcopi,'*
Again, in a fine old folio MS. ** Mmaale ad usuni
Sarum" of the early jart of the fifteenth century,
in my poaseFaion, St Wulfmn's ollice occurs only
on October 15. It i« imposeible to suppose that
the Archbishop of Sens was not celebrated in
England ; and wc may fairly conclude that it was
be who waa honoured on October 15. F. C* H,
Tbe parish church of Grantham ia dedicated to
this eaint, the only one that is so, I beliere, in
England j and as there is a fair held on Oct 20,
which is Oct. 15 O. S., I suppoas it is the St
Wulfran whom your correspondent A. 0. V. P.
inc[uiTea about. Probably local histories say wbo
this saint was. E. L. Blexedtsopp*
Springtborpt Recto ry*
Carlo Cbitellt (4*** S. vii. 161.)— The earliest
painting known by tliia master ia an altar-piec^e in
tbe churcb of San Silvestro at Ma&sa, datod 1468 ;
his latest work known is in tbe Oggioni Collection
at Milan, dated UJ)3.
Mr. John Pig got may consult tbe following
works for information respecting this great mas-
ter:—
Ridolfi (Ctrio), Le MaravigUe delV Arte, plates, ilo,
Venetia, 1648; auotber edition, 2 foIs., plates, Svo, P&dua.
1835-7.
Oraini (Baldaasaro), Deaorixione dellfl PIttare. • . .
Cittii di Aecoli, 8vo, Pera^ia, 17D0.
Ricci (Amii:o), Memorio btoricfae ddle Artt c dcgli
ArtUti ddla Marca di Ancona, 2 vola. 8vo, Macerata.
183't
Our National Gallery possesses six (not four)
workij by Crivelli, W* Mabsh.
7, lied Lion Square.
Information about this painter and bis works
may be glenned from Carboni, Ldttrafi e Artisti
Ascokmi. Had vour correspondent consulted Mr.
Womum's excellent catalogue of the pictures in
the National Gallery, he would have found re-
ferences to this and other authorities. This cata-
lojjfue, by the wny^ is a most useful manual of
reference for the biographies of painters of all
ages and schools. George M. Green.
27, King WillUm Street, Strand.
Wrokg DATKsr CiGOLi (4^'' S. vii. 133.) —
Among the pictures mentioned in The Twm of the
IStb March, aa havinff been saved bv oitraordinary
exertions from the hre at Holker Hall, is a " St.
Francis'* by Cigoli. A member of my family
possesses a ** St. Francia " by Cigoli which is a
puzzle to us. Tbe style of tbe painting, it^ great
me/7>, and the seal of tbe grand ducal arms of
luscanjj seem to concur in attesting its gemuin^-
nesfl. The dam aging band of restorer or cleaner
has touched it hut lightly and tbe careful to*
moval of a veil of dirt has revealed to us tf^
signature of ** L. C. C^' (i*. e. of Liidovico C«
da Cigoli), 1619." Now, all tbe biograpbiesj
have access to give 1613 as the date of Cigob
death. These biographies, it ia true, are mo *'
compilations, find copied the one from tbe otbe
yet tbe narrative of Ciffoli*s last illness, last f
even, is so circumstantially told^ that it is
to believe it an inventinnl i)n tbe other bind!,'*
how unaccountable would be a forgery with in
impossible date on a work of such suprlatin
merit ! In this dilemmn I would, with your petil
mission, inquire of your many readers wbethei
any painting of Cigoli'a ia known to exist rtf i
later date than 1613. or whether any bio
gives a later date for nis decease. " H. ^
Dursley.
BALLOONg ANn THE SnEQE OP Paris (4'*» S. wL
oo7.)_The last balloon, Gt5n<?ral CambroDDe, wiU
sent up on January 28, and not the i'Otb. Tii«j
mistake is owing to an imperfectly printed copf
of tbe Dmli/ Tek^apk, Taoi. KAXCurrE.
Worksop,
GuTzoT AXB GtriSE (4**^ 9. vii. 142.)— It ii true
that among the educated classes in Pans tbe inX
name is pronounced (as we should say) Gtcef<^
and tbe latter Ghecze, It is equally true thit
there is no common-sense reason for tbe di0>reaf<?
But some people have fancies about tbe proaunci-
ation of their names, and otber people gra^v
tbeir follies without anv regard for the rules ai
their own language. That alone accounts for tbr
difference, Tne world is very tolerant of ihm
fancies, and so tbey are permitted and winltedtl
even by those who are well convinced of thfir_
absurditv. This is the case not merelv with
pronunciation of names (as to which 1 coi
late a funny illustration)^ but also as to the
sumption of titles of all sorts. The lore ol
not<3riety is a common foible, and they wbo hiT«
really a right to titles are the last to make a fwi
about them. Tbe fuss is generally in the inveff*
proportion to tbe right. C, (\
Leigh Hitm^s "Leisttre Hours ts Tows*
(4^*^ 8. vii. 26, 132, 198.) —I think tbe book m-
qnired for must be T/ip Tohik by Leigh IIu«*i
published by Smith, Elder^ and Co, in 1^8.
Charlks Wtle^
*'TffE CoxCTLiAn'' (4t»» S. vii. IGL) — Tha
author of this poem was W. Sam eon, a ^argei^^B
at Sherborne, Dorsetshire; but I do not kio]*
wbo the initials refer to. It is not mentioned ia
Batb.
The "Angels*' of Stockwell: the Lisx <i^
I THE Family (4*»» S. vi. 371.) — Happening ti)
\ m^ii^ioTt^^ti^'^^ Ssi^^lS. & Q.,*' in the biwiring
^
I* s. viL MAticii 25,710 NOTES AND QUERIES,
271
of THj fntber, who lired at Stockwell upwards of
eK' ^^ ago, he aarrated the foUowmg unec*
d*' list memWr of that family: — Mr,
AagisU Laving been much ftimoYed by boys rob-
Hog hU orchard and plnying lum other tricks,
OTi * * v.ent out witli his guUj and shot some
un wight who was lurkiap; about hid pre-
1 lie eh<3ck to this gentleman was so ex-
when he found his ^ud had taken fatnl
J ili&t he condemned himself to live the life ff
Aftclo^e ever after, and rf?rafiiQed a priaouer in bia
own house to the day of his death, denjing bim-
«elf to all but one or two of bis old and moat
iatlxaate ttc^uniiitanccis, and at last none but my
^inttid/ather was admitted to his room* Not ouly
WM be ft prisoner to the house but even to one par-
ticular ?pot^ where he tat all day, aiid took no
further exercise than could be obtained by stamp-
ing his feet on the floor m he sat in his chiur,
aod the boards were quite worn away by the feet
of the unhappy recluse*
The ** -\ngel estate J ■ and that of my grandfather
and one or two othL-r jft^ntleraen, at that time
eoroprised the pivrisb ol' Stockwell, which since
hac grown up into a populous district.
C. T. J, Moore.
FnuDptou Hall, near Boston.
"Pai^ologia CrmoHicA'* (4*** S. vii. 1430—
I have a copy of Dr. Gary's Paimoioffift Chram'ca,
winch is correctly described in your reply to Sp/s
qusTV. There Is not a particle of personal gene-
uogfcal information, nor, so far as I have seen,
my reference to his own times in Dr, Carr'a
work. Your correspondent h in error os to fiia
' " :;sbip to Sir IL Cary. He whs a brother
L a son of that unfortunate royjiliat. lie
•r^ old at tho date of the herald a* visi-
Ton in l(i20, and died at his rectory
* .^ .M i i iWmouth, Devon, Sept, 10S8. Having
deTOti?d much attention to the i^enealojtry of the
Trirv; .,(' 1*, v,,n T should much like to be placed
: with your correspondent; for
this branch of the family ax© as
I, and he mentions the probability of
' ► throw light upon it
RoBEUT Dtmond*
Bw|>fyUt Hou^, Exeter,
Criiicism oy " Mekch ant of Venice '* (4*^ S.
^" ^ ' • The anecdote reminds me of the late
I »ff"a tinal visit to Glasgow, Behind
,xi}^n\ stalU was a GIai:gow lawyer,
impressed with the grt^at actor*s
ly to stiy when the Jew went
^.'<1 at the wing— the actor had orer-
— •* W. :!K Shaltespeare has used !Shy-
truck me at the time as a
11. I have not since heai*d
:. I w. n.
Child&sh^s Gam£3 (4^'' S» vii, IJL)— I fre-
quently took part in the game mentioned by S,
when \ child at Looe, in Com wall » fifty years
ago. The rhymes appear to have dilTered slightly
from those mentioned by S., and were as fol-
low:—
" * How many miles from this to Babyloo ? *
• Three-scofc and ten.*
* Can we get there by day light ? *
• Ye^ if your legs nro lonff and *tronp:.
* This oae*4 loDg» and thb one'a strong ;
Oj>eo yonr jjates n& high m tbo ak\%
And let King George and me pais by.'
Saint was not unfrequently stibstituted for ^tviy.
Wm. Penoelly.
Tort]Tia\%
'*Thi: Last of the PLAXTAGENTrTa'' (4*" S, vii.
150.) — Your correspondent Mr. Wahtj ia in error
when he names 18*^9 as the date of the publica-
tion of tho above romance. I can speak on thia
point with authority, having myself assisted in Ita
transcription for the press so far back as (I be-
lieve) i82G» lietween whicli and 1820 it waa
oj^f/inailj/ publish ed. It was written by the late
William Heseltine, a gentleman of distinguished
literary attainments, at that time residing at Tur-
ret House, South Lambeth, heretofore the hrime
of the Tradescanta, whose collection of curiodtiea
was the wonder of the age.
Keswick. William GASPEr,
"CnATEAUX EX Espagne" (4^''S. vii. 158.)^
Long before Francois de Sales we find the pro-
verb recorded : —
TbirtG«ath Ceatttry.
** Lots fcras cha»tiaus en Espai-^ne,
Et aur.ia joie da ooient,
Tant com lu ir*9 foloiant
Kn la pen^^e delitable,
Oil il n*a for* mcnijonf^e et fablf/'
GuLllaume de Lorrij<, Roman dt In Rotf,
2152.
Fifteenth Ceottiry*
*' Taut h part moy, en iuom pcn-^.tr in'enclo**,
Et fju* chnstcaulx en E^paignc ct en France j
Owltre lea mont^, forge maintc ordunnatice ;
Chaacun Joan, j'ay plus de mille prupoa,'*
Charles d'Ol^an/", Routl,
Whence the saying arose is a point which ha»
never been settled^ as we see the proverb was used
as far back as the thirteenth century.
Now, in the fifteenth century we tind *^Cha-
teoux en Aaie, chAteaux en Albanie."
Fifteenth century.
" El le songQT fait chasteaux: ca Asie ;
Le grand deMi* la chair rasfcasio,"
Pierre Gringoire, Menus pntpot.
Je v«v«, je vicnH, le trot et puis U p«js
Jc ^u ung mot, puis aprw^ je le aye^
£t &i bastid sans reigle nc com pas
Tout fin scuUet I« cha«teaux d'AJhinye/*
Le Verier tTihrnmur*^
Hence it would appear that the expreesiuns
S72
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»fc8.Vn. MABCBJ5.U
quoted above meant to build castles in foreign far-
off lands, otherwise to feed one^s mind on silly
faociea. Spain being nearer and mora Imown on
account of the ** Chanson et RMta de lloland,'*
*' Fairo des chateaux en Espagne ^' prevailed over
" Fidro des chateaux en Auie, en Altanie/*
Dh Satb OB Say (4*** a xiK 123.) — Lamar-
tiniere (Gr, Diet. g^og. et critX under ** Say,
Saia, Sajum, ou Sadium, a paiish of Normandyi
dioc. S^ex/' after spealdjig of the church and
property of Say, says : —
" Pour la maiAon de Say, encore plaa con dud en Angle*
terre qu'GO Normandle, efle est ^d^teinto i1 y a longtems.
** On en connnence la g^n^alogio dan» lo baronoagt^
d^Angleterre, ih Picot de Snj%qtti vivoit mus. Ouillaume h
Oonqu^rant, et qui tit ses clcnnflonsi 4 FAbbayc de S.-
Hartta de 8eez ; entrc nDtnres il lui eontimia le tiers de
Teglise de Saj, qu'Ostnelin de Saj y avoit dloun^. II
^t43it un des Baronfl de Koger deMonti^ommed, rcmdateur
de ce monastferej il 1b suivit en Angletenv. Ces^t ap-
parenunent h ratisc de lui on do qneJoue autre de .son
Dom qu'il y a ausai dana ee pajslJLun ilea oppclv Say;
cependant on doute s'iJ n'y auroit paa encore une terre
de ce nom vera le Cottentin, ce que quelques litres font
pT^iuner; ct en cc cas il pourruit y avoir cu deux fa-
millea de Say : at il seroit ass^s h cniire que Jourdain de
Say, qui fonda en 1131 I'Abbaye d'Aunay» au dioc^e de
Bayeux, et dont la tillet Agn&»'de Say, Lipoma Richard du
Hommctt eoiinctable do Norman die, nnroit 6ti d'nue
famillo difFereiite: aussi luur attribue-t-on des artnca
diyerses; TAbhaye d'Aunay fait porter k son fondateufp
d'Argent, sem^ de biUettcs de Sable an lioa de mt-me^ et
Ton dnnne au Say d'Angleterrc, de Gueulea k deux facca
do vnirj sur quoi on pent voir VHUtoire de la Malsim
d^Harcourt, tome ii. p, 1D52, et tome 4 dans rApijendice,
p. 22."
The geographical name ia, without doubt, de«
rired from saj-um, K, S, Charlock,
Gray's Inn Square*
Presuming your correspondent to have already
searched auch' books as the publicationg of the
Hecord Commission ^ or Sima^s Index to Pedip'eee^
in the British Museum, for mentions of the Say
family^ I can inform him that there is a brass to
Sir John Say, in Braxbuni(^ church, Hants (a.d,
147t3)» and also a curious Latin vers© inscription
to a William Say in Denchwortk church, county
Berlf s, dated 140-i. A Thomas Sav, Esq», accom-
panied Sir Arthur Uyd6| of the latter place^ to
Ireland in 158(), and obtained a grant of 5,77o
acres there. Henry de Say was for three years
flheriff for Berkshire in Henry III/s rtigo, Thomas
Say, Esq*, held the same othce under Henry YlVa
reign. Henry Barbt Hyde, Jun,
21, Edge Lane, Liverpool
Bismarck AyTiciPAXnn : '* Stewing is thetr
owK Gravy ' ' (4'*' S. vii. 187.)— The French hnvo
the same expresaon, " Cuire dans son jus." Talk-
jn£- of cuUnarj art, a great epicurean once said —
"Arec tmepareiUe sauce on mangerait son ^r^ \**
ne ni
I
If the poor Pansiana could hut hare had some of
it during this horrible siege to make their mai
ous food somewhat more palatable I P. A»
Is not the proverb equivalent exactly to **
ing in their own grea*e *' ? If so, we can go
little further hack than the London *Spi/,
Shakespeare has two allusions to it in Tht
Mrny Ji hes (Globe edit, ll, i- UO, and IIL
115.)
John Heywood has —
** Sbo fryeth in hir owue grease, but as for my parU
If she be anpjry, boshrow her angiy barte."
Di'alflffite, &c, I. sJ,, Spenser Soc, p. 87^
Chflucer*8 Wt/f of Bathe says —
'* But eerteynly I made folk auch chere.
That in bia owne greea I made him frto
For anger, and for rerraie jaIou5ie.'*
Prohpit of Wtff of Batku I ^t
ed. Morris.
John Ai»fii^
Rustington, near LitilebamptoD» Sussex.
I think, in differing forma, this saying will V
found as old as the hills, and that some ol Uij
classic miners into the domains of heatlieiuSQD
may send us specimens from Plautua or Arislih
phanefl. Shakspere has twice availed himfielf
its use in one play, The Metry Wiists of Wm
Fftlstftff describes' himself as nearly in that y]
in his purgatory of the buck-basket, from w*
was only delivered by its being emptied in "
mead. But the closest use of the pro^
(Shakspere) puts in the mouth of Ford'
who thus energetically expresses her hoi
dignation at the bold protiigacy of the '
fat lecher to her gossip, Mrs. Page : —
** Wbat tempyst, I trow, threw this whole with an
tons of oil in hU belly ashore nt Windsor ? How ikall
be revenged on him ? I think tlie best way wen to
tertain him with hope, till the wicktd Jire of Imi '
nulted him in hit owngreaK^
But, certainly, for cool heartlesanesa of
tion to two mirtions of suffering fellow-crekti
Count Bismark has made it his '>^^»^ i- "
unless The Tinws can persuade
was only the frank, open-hearted i,. ,. ^*_.
astute Gerioan statesman, with wnich he
Beason his hard sayings to those who he Coi
were at his mercy, J. A.
Carnbrooke.
»» That in his owen grese Fmadp him fri**"
Chaucer, WiftfEathtii To/*, y. 6011.. J
The Saturday Review, Jan. 28, 1871.
article on Ayrtou, says the above en _
nolo become classical I J. Wi
Ikksta2«d op Wed0wood Ware (4»* 8*
10*3.) — These dolphiu-footed inkstandB were i
favourites at one time, I have Kad two, andl
just been looking nt the remains of one of ("
red, with Egyptian designs in black The I,
\ q1 \Vl(^ Wmis^bertcal body used to be filled^
NOTES AlsD QUERIES.
ffpon^e for the purpose of Triping tlie pens
i^ugh the smaller holes, A larger one, or
tlier iocketf waa for the receptiuo of a wax
|>er. A still krcer aperture contaioed a per-
rmtod T0i««l for the hlue and siWer sand oDce in
l^e for drying the ink The central receptacle
r the latter had usually a plug to raise the Huid
r iKtzDOw'tpheric preseuTe.
^ W. J* Bbenhabjd Surra,
Xjldt Obihstok's Grate m Tewdi CnimcH-
|ju» (4*'' a Til, 76, 128, 172.)— In reference to
le recent corFespondenco reepectiag Ladj Anne
hiniBtoti'a tomb at Tewin, tie Hert$ Guardtofi
* In Earl Cawper'» Park, Panshiuif^r, one mile from
)fmia dmrch, mtkj be ieen flererat clumps of six to ten
IodIea ai aab-treea gprioging from one root ; aad the
■lowii^ from Ibe Herts Gwxrdkm of Ma^ 15th, l^^t
^«» thai ihero are at Itaat two cases of trees growing
Bt of tonihiitOQi*a in the locality cfTewin^^foar milee
ivm Hertford. Noticing the (lemoUtion of St. Andrew's
}\A Citurcb, Htfitford, it is stated :»' Od the Kmth side
he chnrch Is a tomb after the atylo of Lady Anne Grim-
|l«»% :i^ Tt-wln i two sycamore trees eoil a bt of young
Ipri; ^ OB t of it, and have displiiced the stone-
QTi , 1 and broken the iron railingi: dose b^
YHiui^ rnn h tree growing out of a butlresa, and it
I pQahcd away the brickwork/ It id a subject for
that the to tub was obliged to be demoUafaed to
room tor the transept of the new ehureh. Agaio^
Hfla Uie south side of Watford church ia a tomb with a
IflMia gniwing out of the interior; and there is the
Wauii We^ rwcmbb'Dg that of Lftdy Anne G rims ton ,
> Chat the IaJv Ijuiied below did not believe in a Supreme
Brir 1 * if there was a God» a fig-tree would
r heart/ Thla fi^-lree has home fruit;
. L liflt the figs were * not Tery good to eat.' "
W. POLLARB.
litrtford-
) ' — According to my copy of Gibbon
k Co., 1B48), it is Mb. Tew who is
puh statement. The passtige is : —
of military science and discipline
r unlesj a proper number of soldiers are
J tme Ijody, and actuatml by one soul. With a
jnen riic& an anion would be ineffectual ; with
. Jflr host» it would be impractirnblc; and the
Itf fi« maehine would be alike dostroTed by the
I mif:i ut^^rir-s or the exccMtive weight of it;* PpringR.
' ' rvtlion, we ne^d only reflect that
! y<y of natural atrencfth, artificial
m *Li{^\i\xK'i skill which could enable one man
i eontiafit sabjeetion one hundred of hi^ fellow
: Xiif tvmnt of a ^n^le (otmi, i>r n <mall district,
llowenwere
t4/' I orcitisensj
rrcj (^iMJK#unu iTc+4 u«»Mjn*ini.i rmi* ti*^r9 Wlu OOm*
I daspotie sway ten miUioca of eabjaeta, and a
a or HAceo Ihomaiifi gnarda will strika terror
I nujaarotta populace that ever crowded Ibe
» capital,'^
\ eonteid will show that Mn. Tew*9 qnot«i-
i kimdred di^.iplined ftoldiersi/* is wrong,
' liaYe Dot Fuller bj me, 6o I cannot reier to
the other instance, n i coma pe
Bredenach, I Lave no doubt I should find that
Fuller, like Mb. Tew, bad not quoted correctly,
Clakrt.
[** But an hundred thoumnd well-diBciplincd soldieiai*'
&c Tills is the text of Gibbon, according; to the edition
'* with notes and a memoir by F. A. Guizot.**]
IIampdek Famtlt (4*»» S. Tii, 189.)— Br. Hamp-
den, the late Bishop of Hereford, claimed descent
"from a Junior branch of the same stock ns the
patriot John Hampden.** {Memorials of BUhcp
Hampdm^ p. L) The bishop's ancestors are said
to have left England at the Restoration^ and to
have settled with other parliament nry families in
the West Indies. The assertion, or family tradi-
tion, or whatever it may be called, deserves some
consideration, inasmuch as the bishop's brother,
John Hampden of Leamington (who died in
1B60J was an antiquary of some repute, and had
doubtless inreatigated the point. C. J. R.
A branch of this family {of whicb tbe late
Regius Professor was one) flourished in Bar-
bado8» and the name was originally spelt without
the p, but that letter was afterwards assumed.
In an old black-letter account of EucMngham-
shire, the great patriot's name is given without
tbe p ; and can you inform me which is the cor«
lect way of spelling it ? There must be, I preBmDt,
many of his signatures remaining, but theT may
vary, like Shakspeare'a. G. E.
Hkraldtc (4^* S. vi, 458.) — The arms which
W* H. M, C. wishea to identify — Azure, a croaa
patt4e between four fleurs-de-lis or ^probably
tielong to some family of Ward in Cheshire. The
arms of Ward of Coplestonej co, Chester — B, a
cross patt<?e O, — are borne with variouis dilferenoee
and augmentations by several families of that
name. The nearest approach to the blazon given
in ^^ N. & Q/' that I nave been able to find is^
Azure, a cross patt6e arminoin between four fletira-
de-lis or. Beveblkt R. Belts,
librarian of Columbia College,
Samplebs: Rev. Joim Xe^tton {i^^ S. vL
500; viL 21, 120, 220.) — The lines given by
J. A, Pn. were composed by the late Rev, John
Newton for the sampler of liia niece, Mias Eliza-
beth Catlett. As such they have been handed
down and worked in our faaiil^'' for his sake. My
grandmother was hctaoured with the friendship of
this excellent man during bis later years while
rector of St. Mary Wooluoth, I,ondon,'and I hare
often heard her children recall with pleasare the
genial playfulness which made him popular with
the young, and indeed with all who knew him.
He ever endeavoured, too, to convey and fix some
profitable thought by all his verses and inter-
course. Several instances oC tU^e mfv.x bft to^scw^
appended to a \ittUTo\Mme Q^Aft\\«t%^i^^^^sw9fi^
S74
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4-s.vi;
to the above-named relative (1779-1783), enlltleil
Twcfity-One ZeUers writ fen to ft tiectr Itelnlwc at
Schoal (London, 65, St. VanVs Churchyard).
I should^ however, add that our copy of the
lines variea in a flight degree from those worked
by Arabella; tho second Ene wm evidently al-
tered to suit her own name. Oar lines stand
thus —
" Jesa?, permit Thy pradmis Name to standi
A» the firtt «iffori fifan infant*i hand i
And while her flnfferB o'or the canvaaa move,
Eng^age her tedder thotights to seek Tliy love ;
With Thy dear chilJren let her have a part,
And write Thy iVirwe, Tfty*ti/f upon her heart"
S. M. S.
^itf(rna)!f0tti^«
NOTES O^ BOOESt ETC.
Rumbles of Gn Archaoio^itt timong Old Bookt and Old
Placu i beinff Fapera 0n Art in rttaOon to Arch^toh^^
PamHnf^ Art Decomtim^ and Art ManufartHre, By
Frederick William Fairbolt. F.S.A, Itiuitrated icith
2&9 IFood Engravings. (Virtue & Co.)
The tate Mr. FaLrhoU was not only a painstaking and
well-infonned antiqiiAry, lut an accurate and ftccom-
pibhed drAfl^man, su that when ht brought hb pen and
pencil to b«ar on any lubject, the combination of arcbfle-
ological k^owl«dge and artistic skill, as in the case of tiii
Dictimuiru iif Coatuske^ waa attended with the happieAt
re«ult0^ Thii waa strongly exempURed in se^^ral in-
terring aeries of paper? which he communicated to Tht
Art Jtmmal; and we agree with the editor of the book
befora ngit thitt the merit and riluf; of these Essays — ^the
result of eo much labour and research — entitle them to a
more lastioi^ form than i^ Aflortled in the pages of a
magazine. Borne idea of the variety of Jnt<»re5ting goswip
intha book may be formed from a glance at \t% contents.
After an opening Esaay, in which Mr. Fairbolt treats of
almost ever}' departtneut of Ornainental Art, there ia a
cnrloas paper "On Grotesque Desipn as exhibited in
Omamental and Indiistrial Art.'* Thia is followed by
"Facta about Finger Riuga," and an e^aay ** On Ancient
Brooches aud Dreaa Fastenings;" andthe'book ends with
a pleasant nrticle oo ^' Alt«rt Dhrer ; his Work*, hi?
Companions, ajid bis Times j" while nearly 3JO0 Mka-
t rations add at once to the interest and vala^ of the
letter press. We are promised a aecond volume, and
we shall welcome it, ana even more cordially if it is ac-
companied by what the book will really require — a good
Index.
Crowhnd and BurjO^* A Light on iht HutorUau and on
Me History of Vrowland Abi»wy i and an Account of
the ManoMtery at Burgh (n4Ho Pettrhorough) in Pre-
JSWman Timts,, and Uf the Time of Kintf Richard the
FirH (1193). By Henry Scale English. In Three
Volumet, (LongtuaDB.)
The work before us fumbhea fVasii proof, if that were
needed, of the tratb of Wordaworth'a dictum, that the
child is father of the man. In his preface Mr. English
Bl:itcs, with reference to a somewhat similar effort that
appeared in 1830 : ** That Book does the WViter very little
credit. I am sure he owes bumble apologies to any one
who honoured It with a perusal^ for it was badly ar-
ranged, full of mistakes, and the meaning somotimei ao I
awkwardly txpresaed, that the arguments (such as they 1
were) were not properly understood. The Aulhnr<)f rAif
book, who has since had more than sutlieient time f*^
rctlection, has now writtcu Mew ; the subjects art ofi i ik:
same, bnt he has avoided a great n amber of the nv
which disgraced the book of 1830."* Thl* we thiiit ri^mi
n very fair critJcUm of the volumes wlioae title w« hsn
transcribed above.
Bo<iKs uccnvED-— /*rteri7 of the Peak. Bf &
Walter Scott; t^tinq VM. XV. of the Cenienary Km^
of the WafitrUtj .rJre/f. (A. & C. Black.) We «a ^
little more than chronicle the regolarity with ntueb tbe
volumes of thi«. certainly the moat complete editioo of
Scott's admirable fictions, are brought before the veril
— P<*tmt in tfit Craven Dialect* By Tom Twialcba
Stco}id Edition, (Wildman Settle.) We can well ai-
deratand whv these little poems, written in the Crtne
dialect, sljould be popular in the district to which tSuf
belong; they hare a pleasant o^cr)' ring about ttN9.*
Folk- Song and Folk- Speech of Lancathir* in the BaHaA 1
and Stmgt of the County Palatine, tctth Note$ 9m the &*-
ieett in tchich many of them are written^ and oil Appttdu
on Lancashire Fotk Lore. By W. E. A, Axon, F ILSlL
ifre. (Tubtis St Brook, Manchester.) A small but nb-
able addition to the now long list of works o<n Eoglki
Dialects aud Folk Lore,
Dkath of PaoFEasoR Da Moboau.— Dor
will hear with deep regret of the death of this
pli-jbed gentleman, who was for many yean a
conrributor to tb.so columns, which* took p!iw ob
Saturday laat. Professor de Morgan, wh<
many years intimately connected with I
lege, London, was Irani at Madura in Sour
1806, and coming to England prooeetled t
lege, Cambridge, where he took his B.A. d
being fourth wrangler, Mr. Cleasby, now a Uai
Exchequer, bt^ing the third wrangler of that y
leaving Can^ bridge, Mr. de Morgan entered at
Inn and commencod his legal studies, but alm(
diately afterwards abandoned them on bein^i]
to the Profesaorahip of Mathematics in the XJnifi
London. Since that time he has written lar^
principles and history of mathematics, as wj
arithmetic, algebra, trigonometry, doable algebrai
fewjntial calculus, tbt calculus of functions, the I
probabilities, life contingencies, the gnomonie ]
formal logic, has t>een a very large conttibllt
Athen43rumj where the series entitled ** A BoodUl
doxee," created a considerable sensation, and
many papers in The Transactions of the Qxmbri
Mophicttl Society. He was a fellow of tho Roy
uomical Society, and for eighteen years oM 1
secretaries.
Death of Koukrt CirAMBEBi, LLD.— Seotlaad h
lost a son to whom she owes a large debt of gi
Robert Chambers died on the J 7th instant, in tb
ninth year of hia age. Not only will be be long f
bered as the author of many valuable works, sap
tllustrativfl of the history and literature of hk 1
Gountr>', but for the share which he had with his i
brother William in the production of the popular Jo<
which bore their name, aud the appearaooe of wbieh,!
it remembered, preceded that of the Penny lia^ *~
six weeks. The books written bv Robert Cfc —
those of his no lees distinguished brother Wil
long liBt.
A HtsTOET OF THE WeXU} of Kent, with t?i 1
line of the EaHv Hiatoir of the Gcmntr. bv i
ley, F.S,A.; al*o, a Sketch of the Physica.
the District, by Henry B. Maeke«on, F,u„ . ™
volumes, ii announced for early publication.
Uiiwit ;
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Sliibcd iTory, and \%» •ab«taii<<c nearly rriemtilM that of v«l]am, h
Kt the writlziff thereon prcMtitvan i^xtnuTrttinmry cl<?Aimc**and bewity .
A vleel pen can be uaed upon li with the fiuiiUty of a cooee quJU, aud
thus one grtat aounce of aaa^guat haa tNieii eocaiilitely JtipencdcU. '
"OLD ENGLISH" FURNITURE.
Hrpnxlnctiont of Simtiie and ArtijtiQ Cabinet Work from Coantry
M auilotui of Um XYI. and X\1I. OeBturiep, eoaEdnitif food taite,
•ound workmaiiihip, andeavMW>y«
COIiLINSON and LOCK (late Herring),
CABINET MAEJSBS,
109, FLEE! STKEET. E.C. Established 1782,
TAPESTRY PAPERHANGING8.
Jmitatluni of raw old BR<_)CADi:s. DAMAhKi^, and GOHELIN'
lAi'hMllIES.
COLLINSON and LOCK (late Herring).
DECORATORS,
109, FLEET STREET, LUNDOK. EsUUUhM ITBIl.
TtlOM Aft CAMP&ELL,
WlU.IA>f GtFFORD,
HARTLEY- COLERIDGE*
Tbe BET. AL
DYCB.
The RET, nxSTET TCI
AndOtlMca.
REAITMONT and I^l-ETCHER, 2 xtAs. Z^
MASSINGER and FORD, lOf.
BEN JONSON. 16^.
Wl CHERLEY, CONGREVK TAJTBEUGa
FARQtTTAR. I6i. ^ -'-IH
GREENE and PEELE. li^,
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JOHN WI:rsTER. I2i.
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Or the Set 0>roiilete,<tf. tt».
The Old Poets,
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CHAUCER, lQs,6d. I POPB. lOfJ
Or the ^t CatBiOete, >A 3a.
dXIRGE AOFTI^IMIE ft SOKa, The 1
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ILUERT J, FEEirC
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M AtittfiKtei^ of
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COMW r
H£RAL1>Il
A Caulo^c eeiit bf port oa ipplIeitfiMu
FaitjeU delivered tnt at all pftodf^lteOwnr fl
TNDIGESTION,— THE lUTmiCAL PT^OrP^^
JL adopt MORSOWi^ I'M iM3^ y I
Beiaedr. Sold In Bute! i
tied! Obrmiata, and thv ^ ;
IM,SouthaJBl»ti0li Rtnir, i:..*,-tii :?yt.i..nr, i.t.nio^r
\
7 TTY OF TITE «T*:iMACn. I
t ' 1, AND INinGE^XlMif -i
uuiLi>ULs;.,„i l^^A^•^sr^^'^«^"'*'^^ ^
And of all Chrml«.. ^^^ *
SAUCE.— LEA AND PERRlXfl
riu»uutia»d b; Comnolaatm g
*' TEK ONLY flOOD SAUCK/'
Imprtmij the appetltt and aldt dicvattoL
trXRIVALLED FOR PIQUANCY AJTD FLA^..^
ABk for "IjBA and PSHBINS"* SAt^d
BEWARE OF I M I T A T 1 1
and »ee the Vmnutw of LJSA AKD FERBTRB m ftU I
A«mla_CROS«£ a BUiC3CWELJUU»«im.afti«
Dcalen in Saodea fchmSbom lllTwttS.
4«=S.VII. ArivxLl,*7U]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
LOUDON, SATURItAr, AFBU h 1871,
COKTENTS.— N* 170,
HOTES: — The Autobio^n^pby of Lord Brmipham: Mrsu
jflshtiDAlc'i Tonib. 277 — On the Ab8«nc«i of any
freoob word siffuifyioR "to stand," 278— Cbmtlertoniann.
J6. — Bftrk#?r utid Burford's Panorwna*, 271} — T.iti d Cfunp-
b<dl*i "Lite of Lord Lyndhurafc " — < i .^ at
OrtbedfalB. Ac — Gurioiu KpiLaph — L EUil-
ynj Matcb — History repeating itidf — A r j .LtUi-
tics — Atsaoe and Lorraiue, £50,
QUERIES: — DuKdale'i "HistOTj of 8t. T^uVa Caihc-
dr»J/' £91 — Arabic Nuiii«r&k in Well* Catbpdml — Sir
Botacft Boyle — Burff — ClOTgy in Btopney Parii&h afttr
ItiSO — Consp<*rTiti^n of Hegitoental CoiQuni — Lord mid
Ladx Don-r " ' "aoi^iinffB— John Pell. Binhop of (n-
fticd— Han lid Thomas Lnopage — Hwinr VII L
mad theCi ^Rov^. Jotau Maoeowan^V.D.M.—
Bpenttsr^Ts 1"»u<.|m' - ^tiirt'a Edition of the BookofCotn-
■iQia Pr^er— Wlfu of John Tradeieaot -- Sir Al«33»i»der
Thonuoo —Old Volunteor Corps— Yqyageur Pigeoii» —
Welah Wedding Giketom— Mrs. Catfaerlne Zepliyr. £S2.
KBPLrBSr — Lonn and Fhlmere of Bath, SSd — *' Wbothor
or BO,*' £S«— " Baron" NichoUon, /&,— The Swan*Song
ofPar«on Avom 2*^8 — Marriage of EnKli^li Pritjct-Msea —
IndustriiM of Lu>irlaf>d — Rash 6t»toTOcnta — Why do<^ a
iwirly bom Uhild ery ? -- Kirjg's CoUe#t% New York — Mr*.
Dovoinc — Cbcpitow « Eftrighoier — Desoondanta of
Jwwny Taylor— Hair growin* after Beatb — Hour P*rk
—Clrnu liacAlpin — RiibicV Bells — Lettj^r from Oliver
Ooniw^lU l<i» - yTftk-s"- ^>y —
n't (^ueen'fc ' . — Piic-eon F Ktta-
j^ya,orH»r% f^icere fieri Ijl..:^, ^., -ThtJ
Ptint of Guido'it " AurorW ^o« 2^
ou Bookf« Ac*
THE ALH'OBIOGRAPHY OF LORD BROUGHAM :
MRS. KlGSTUffGALE's TOilik
Tlie fijret volume of the autobiography of this
dbdnguished man, just iaaued from iho preas, con-
UiDS s^ fiiw anecdotes and statements, the accuracy
of which is more than doubtful. No one would
for a moment impute to the noble author any
wilfol misstatement or intention to deceive.
Tho£43 who haVB enjoyed the company of the
L ran statesman, orator, and philoeopher will
r with pleasure on the remetnbrance of the
ciifpioua flow of language, tlie rich stores of anec-
dote, and the vast variety of subjects poured out
br tke " old man eloquent '* ; but Lf a man defers
toe writing of his memoirs until nearly ninety
jean of age, when the memory must baVe failed
to dome extent, and the judgment has lost its
irigoar« it is not to be wondered at that events in
Ike Ikr distAQt perBpe43tlve of early life become so
floofused and mmgled together in the mind aa to
lead in many cases to distortion atid mi stake.
The Saturday Review was the first to call atten-
lioa to the tale *'Memnon ; or, Human Wii*dom/*
pi £6 of the memoirfl, given by Lord Brriugham
as a epedmen of his early composition, which is
imUj a traoslatioa from Voltaire. The story
pveD at p. 201 of an agreement with his college
Imcid G , written in their blood, that which -
died fiist should appear to the other, and
277^fl
the apparition of the ghost of G consequent
thereon, very much resembles a senaatiomir tala
of Edgar Allan Poe.'
My object at present is to notice an anecdote
ascribed by Lord Broagham to his father (p. 205),
in which the narrator says ** his unbelieving ob-
stinacy had been the means of demolishing what
would have made a very pretty ghost atory " : —
" lie had dined one day in Deaa'd Yard, Westminflter,
with a parly of \'oung mfu» one of whom was liis iiiti-
mnte fricod Mr. CalnneK There was gome talk about the
death of a Mrs. Nightingale, who had recently died under
fiomci midiincholy circumstances, and bad been that day
buriL'd in tin? A b boy. Home one of the party offered u* bet
that no one of those presc^nt wotdd go down into iJic gravo
and drive a natl into the onffiu. Calmel arceptxHl the
wager, only fctijiulnting that he raipht hare a lanthorn.
Ho wai accordingly let into the ciithedral by a door out
of the clotst&ts^ and then left to hlmeelf. *Thc <iinn«r
party, after waiting an hour or more for Caltnel, began
to tliink something mu«t have hajipcned to him, and that
he ought to be looked alter ; so my father and two or
thr«e more got a light* and went to the graven at the
bottom of which lay tho Apparently de«d body of Mr,
Culnid. He was quickly trun*porte<J to the preljend'a
dining-room, and recovered out of hu* fainting tit. As
6Qon as be could find hiii tongue he said^ ' \\ ell, 1 won
my wager, and vou'U find the nuil in the cotEn ; but,
hy Jove J the lady rose np, laid bold of mo, and riall&d me
down before I could scramble out of the grave/ Calmel
stuck to his story in Apit« of all the scoffing of hi« friends ;
and tba ghuat of Mr«, Kightingalo would have been all
over the town but for my fa therms obstinate incredulity.
Nothing would satisfy him but an ocular inspection of the
grave and coffin *, an*ri so, getting a lifiht, he and some of
the party returned t*» the grave. There, sure enough,
was ttie nail well driven into the coffin, but bard fixedby
it was a bit of Mr. Calmel's coiit-tnil t So there was an
end of Mrs, Ni^litinKJ,le'» ghost. This grave afterwards
became remarkable for a very beautiful piece of sculp-
ture by some celebrated artii^t, representing Mr. Kight-
ingalo vainly attmnpting to ward front his d^'iog wife tho
dart of death."
This of course alludes to the celebrated monu-
ment by Iloubiliac in the north transept of
Westminater Abbey, A similar story has been
frequently told with a change in the locality and
in tne dramatic ptfrsoniB. Aa applied in the pre-
sent case, one might remark on the inherent
improbability of tlio whole narrative — the open
grave or vault in the Abbey ; the idea of a person
left to himeelf to ramble' about the bitilding at
midnight without any attendant ; the church left
open for the roysterers to go in and out as thw
pleased. But the simplest answer to the whole
la the fact that Mrs. Nightingale died on August
17, 1734, and that Lord Brougham's father was
bom in June, 1742— ^ight years after the tran-
saction in which he is alleged to have performed
so prominent a part. It is not difficult to con-
jecture how Lorn Brougham was led into the
mistake, As a boy he bad doubtless heard the
story told by his lather, which would naturallv
make a deep impression on his youthful mind.
Looking back through tba dim. x^ta^ ^ ssw^isic^
I
I
i>78
NOTES AXD QUERIES.
l4'»«S,VIl.AFJtu, I. 71
yeara* memory^ it was Tery natural to identify his
fatber as the 'hero afl well aa tlie narrator of the
incident.
As a counterpart to the similar mistake as to
the story of Memnon, it may be worth preserving
in the pages of ** N. & Q/* J- A. Pictos.
Sandjknowe, Wavcrtrt% near Liverpool
ON THE ABSENCE OF AKY FRENCH WORD
SIGNIFYING "TO STANDI*
I do not claim it as an observation of my own^
but I otTer the following? as one made to me the
other day by a friend, whom I shall not name,
but only say tliat he ia one highly accomplished in
literature and weO known in public life. It was
new and interesting to me, and may probably be
T^ffarded in the same light by many readers of
He stated that the French language alone,
among all other lAngaage>s, had no word in it ex-
preasive of the word *'to stand/* This is cer-
tainly a very remarkable fact in the way of
etymology.
Opening Richardson's Dtciionary I observed the
Gre&y Latin, Dutch, German, and Swedish equi-
Talent to the word, hot nothing in the French,
Being curious to see how the verb was managed
in the French version of the Bible and Testa-
ment, I looked at a few pnaaagea there — e. g.
Deut xviii. 5/* God hath chosen him to stmid to
minister; * The French is '* alia qifil aasiste pour
faire le service." We all know that the French
** assister '* haa a far more general and less dis-
tinct meaning 'than *' to stand/' Again (Joshua
XX. 4), ** When he shall strntd at the entering in
of the gato of the city," The French is *^ ^uand
il s^arr^tera k Tentrde de la porte." So m the
New Testament, '* When ye stand praying ■ ' {<rT^-
inyr*), Mark xi. 25, ** Quand vous vous pr^aenteriez
pour faire votre pri^re." Once more (liev. iii, 20),
" Behold I stand at the door and knock " (fo-TTjJca),
The French can render it no more accurately than
*' Je me tiena a la porte/'
Looking over a well-known French dictionary,
I could only find phrases and circumlocutions for
the verb, though these were very numerous.
Strange, therefore, as it may seem, etymolo-
gicAlly speaking, I believe it may be concluded
that it would be aitnply and absolutely impossible
to say in French ** he standa '■ contradictory to
" he sita '* or ** lies down." I mean of course m a
continued act. The French for rmng or sUmding
up is current enough. Should this view be incor-
rect and any word brotitrht forward by hotter
French scholars than u vi^^^lf, I shall be much
obliged by the discoveiy and correction of these
Tiews on the subject.
In illustration of the inoonveniences and losses
la expreasiaa which must often re8\ilt ftoia this
destitution, as to the word, I* may Tenture to
quote a passage of deep and grand doctrinal in-
terest in the tenth chapter of St. Paul's Epistle Vi
the Hebrews, 11th and 12th verses. H© ia 000-
trasting tbe c&nlmuoits ministry of the Jpn^^
under the Mosaic dispensation with the ^nulM
ministry of Jeaua Christ our Lord : —
•* Every priest »Umdt(h daUy miniatering and offfriiij
ortentimea the sam« wiorifice« which can never takt swij
BiDt, but thU mat! after He had ofTered one sacnfioelior
■in fbr ever tat down on the right band of God*"
The argument depends on the strict use of ths
word daudiiig as opposed to Mmg eknvn after t
finished work, htit all this is loat, or At all eveoti
seriously weakened or damaged, by tbe absooes
of any word in the French ver^on beyond **«•-
aiste for the tWij«f, or stand, of the original.
FRAi^cia TitociL
Idip Rectory. '
CHATrKRTONIAXA.
Chatterton's Knowleboe of AiraLO-SAXoi.
In the paper written by Rowley on tbe " Rise of
Painting in England in 1469," and commumcil«d
by Chatterton to W^alpole, are several Anglo-
Saxon words. Most of these are used wrooirlTj
but if we rightly explain them, and tabulate tiea
in alphabetical order, they are as follows: —
Aad^ a heap.
Adrottcfj drowned.
Adrtfene (f(t(u)y embossed (vessels.)
ACcced-fifij an acid- vat, vessel for vinegar.
yKje, a ship ; lit. ao ash.
j^tUice^ nobly.
Afttgmd^ coloured, adorned.
Af^od^ an idol.
Agrafmi^ engraven*
Ahreredf reared up,
It thus appears that Rowley was poooeflM>dqf»
Anglo-Saxon dictionary (the earliest was priatii
in Iti59), and he only succeeded in aequtrisg tam
knowledge of the latiguage as far as Ah, Chii*
terton's letter on ** Saxon Achievements,'* printei
in South ey's edition, vol, ill p. 89, exhibits pre-
cisely the same singular result. He there expUioi
the words Amhd^Afgod^AfgododfAfraienyAfma^
with the addition of Thmder-fl^od, The Isst of
these he explains by '* thunder-blasted," bat ks
has mistaken/ for s. The word which augMiUd
this notion to him is Thimder'sUtgt, a d£sp sf
thunder. The exception in Rowley's letter ii
Ileofnas, which he uses for the colour astire, T\o$
is how he came by it : he looked into Bailey, ao^
found ** Azure, blue (in heraldry)," &c., and'agsb
**Azure^ the sky or firmament." This sumitlM
the idea of heaven. He then found that Isatlvjr
gives hi^4m as the derivation of the woitL Twi
led him to look into an Anglo-Saxon dictaonaryf
and he accord mgly found heoftm, pL k0nfm»f
and he adopted the plural as quainter*f
nter*loQ|a^
ArniL 1, 7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
27!
^<2/«f» ifl eith<?r miflcopied from *'^/jf<s^«i, to
c^bty design,'^ or dmplj mftde up from iha
kidic word /rrf, Amess ia miscopied from
wr<<p decked, adorned." It tbua appeftrs that
Mterton knew no more Anglo-Saxon than he
rht hftTB picked up in an hour from a ^Lo^i^ary,
[ wag unable to dlstinpruiBh between i and /,
I pzobably miaread other letters also,
Walter W. Skbit*
I Ciatra Tcnmce, Cambridge.
JirATTi:RT0!r'8 MoNTTMENT AT BRISTOL: UlT-
(LTfirSD Original Letters. —
Btr> — To be thought worthy of writing' the
; of Chfttterton for a publick monument to
_ ed in his native City ia indeed a hi)?h dia-
timj, and I do not allow' a single hour to pa«a
ay without acknowledging the honor you ha?e
ccmfi^rred on me. But when I consider that
most illustrioua writer in existence is your
nan, and that his zeal for Chatterton baa
manifested long ago to the beoetit of that
brtunate youth's family and to the glory of bia
Ithplace, { must entreat you to think again and
|jiot only how greatly more able, out also
atly more proper, ia Soutbey'a pen on thiu
I acknowledg© your jiidgemont in preferring
tt ton^e to the' latin, for nothing can be ab-
fttider tEan to call the attentioii to that which the
jRjDisniljty, when they are called to it, cannot un-
(5'T r&nd. This is barbariam in the last tatters of
cruiiiiion. It i& equally an evidence of your judge-
\ liM&ti nor leas indeed a proof of your integrity, to
l*oiBm<>Tromt^ by atatuea and inscriptions men of
Ittilte i It her than the reatlesa adventurers
I uij , 1 parliamentarians to whom other
Dcrcial Citieii have erected the costly memo-
I of a perishable popularity.
I haye the honor to be
Sir,
Your obed* Serv*,
W, S. Landor.
. James^ Square, March 19, l&ZB,
-The instant I had written my last letter
pu, I wrote one to Dr. Sou they.
of ibis evening is highly satisfiictory to
! 1 find that your first application waa to
at omament of the literary world* I hope
\fj Yet be induced to do what is so easy for
In my opinion hia Inscripdona are incom-
|y the most classical productions of our con-
riea^ and particularly the earliest — that,
BCe, on Henry Marten. He, however,
kire tmne objections to what you propose ; I
I certainly haye^ I could neither ** point n
lor adorn a tale** upon a tombstone; and
ilhe Ufo nor the death of Chatterton aSbrds
the materials which I should be de^roua of em|
ploying on such an occasion.
I am, Sir,
Your yeiyobed* Serv*,
W. S, Landor.
Bath, March 21.
BARKER AND BUKFORD'S PANORAMAS.
I have been for some time collecting the de-
scriptive books of Burford's Panoramas, and for-
ward the following list as the result of my
labours, thinking it may be worth preserving in
*' N, & Q/' I should like to know if 1814 was
the first exhibition, likewise anything relative to
the artists, Sec. ' G. J, NoRMAir.
180, St. John Street Road, ClerkeihnilL
Barker axd BoRFoaB*s Panohamas.
StitU««t.
ArtUt.
Dmie.
PliM,
VUtoria
H. A. Barker
1814
Leicester Sq.
Waterloo
No Arti^t*B name
1816
«
Athens
Barker and Bnrford
1818
Stmtid.
Sjtiisbergcn
Vcnic*
Barker
IHlii
Leicmter Sq,
Barker and Burford
1H20
Strand*
Xspltti
n
1820
»T
Bern and the)
Barker
1821
Leicester Sq.
Barker and Burford
1821
Strand.
Corfu
i>
1822
n
Pompeii
Burford
1824
w
Do. 2nd View
»»
1824
LeicesUrSq.
Kdin burgh
J. and B, BtirTord
1825
n
Mexico
t^i
1825
Tl
Madrid
f»
1826
tf
Geneva
R. Burford
1827
Strand.
Genoa
M
182S
Leicester Sq.
CAlcutta
H
1830
J*
Sydney
Florence
n
n
1830
18a 1
Milan
n
\mt
«f
Antwerp
H
1833
flV
Thebes
ipf
ri834
H
Boothia
t*
18M
n
Jcnualem
t*
1835
ft
Lima
n
18JW
♦» 1
Lugo Mnt^giare
ft
imm
»t
Mont BUtic
«v
1837
11
Dahlia
n
?|837
»f
Borne
*•
1839
w
Benares
n
1840
«« '
Damascus
V*
1841
f*
Cabul
**
1842
WBt«rlc»
^,
1842
«
Honf< Kong
Burford and Selous
1844
<
Biialbec
*♦
1844
^
Xaplet
tt
1S45
«
Constantinople
n
1846
*«
Vienna
»»
1848
jt
Cashmeri*
1849
<
**
Ruin* of Pompeii ^
1840
Mount Tii/;hi
»i
l84li
**
Polar Itegiona
n
1850
„
Lucerne
n
1851
*•
Sebastopol
ft
18o5
1
Rome
«
18r;o
tf
Meseina
imo
M
[The original building fov tb* PaxvotaTSi* \t\ V^vwflft**
Square wta craetod, by anb8criv^^«*'=^» V| 1^t^^«^
280
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4*3.vu.Arwi.i,'
Barker^ and openrd in 1791 with a picture of Lcmdan*
taken by no lew eminent an arlist than Thomna Girtin*
from the Albion Flour MiU^ Kolxrt Barker ditMl at bis
house in West Square, South wark, on April 8, J80G, a^ed
sixty-seven. His son, ilcnrr Aston Barker, stj(?cpe«Ied
hi« fftiher in the property, ami John BurforJ, tho pupil
of the seconds came next, leaving it in tarn to hi*i»on
Kobert Bnrfor^U the last proprietor. The building h now
a French chapel. — Ed.]
Loud Campbell's **Lipe of Lord Ltkb-
HXTEST.'* — I bave only just read h book more
femous for il5 entertaining qualitieg than its ac-
curacy—Lord Cftmpbeirs ZtYe of Lord LyndlutraK
At p. 150, the author says that in 1840 he iotra-
duced ft Bill for oompensatinpr the families of per-
sons killed by negligence ; that ho carried it in
184G (p. 1 01), and tbat it has been a Tery succeasful
measure.
The latter part of this statement is true, tlie
former untrue. Tlie Bill wna 8iig]K^ed to me in
1845 by the late ]SLr. OoUis, a Stourbridg'e at-
torney. He drew it; I brought it in, got it,
^ith much trouble, against the opposition of all
the .Tuil^^'Oi^t through a Select Committee, thmuj^h
the HouFe of Lords, and down to the third reading
in the IInu?e of Commons. Then the present
Lord Chelmsford, who was Attorney-General, ^t
it thrown out ; thereby, as I have oft^^n told him^
deelroyvng one of my small hopes of imraorttdity.
The next year Lord Campbell^I lieing in office
and unable to attend to it — took it up and carried
it without diiBculty. "Hunc ego billictdum feci,
tulit alter h on ores.'* It haa been called Lord
Campbeirs Act ever since.
It is hard that, having reared to maturity bo
larg-e aiid flourishing a Hock of parliamentary pro-
ductions, he should thus attempt to rob me m my
poor little embryo ewe larab. Ltttelton.
Old CtrsTOMS at CATUKXiRALa, ETC, — T think
old Aubrey says that where ** laudable customs
TAJiiBh, learning decayeth/' and, as Dean Gaia-
ford said of St. Paul, " I partly agree with
Mm.'* It is within the recollection of old fre-
quenters of Durham iVbhey^ that at the words
'* O come let us worship and fall down, and
kneel before the Lord our maker," tho dean and
canons used to kneel down in their stalls. My
infonimnt remembers Dean Comwallis, Dr. Durell,
and Dr. Prosser doing this. Their immediate
succesaors only bowed, and then the custom disap-
peared entirely. At St. John's, Edinburgh, about
twenty- five years ago the whoU emipreffation knelt
at the aboTo words, and the well-known chant
(Purcell in G) was changed Into the minor key
for that verse only. The dean and canons of
Durham (with, I believe, but one exception), and
the njiiior canona, still keep up the " laudable cus-
tom *' of bowing towards the altar as they leave
the choir. A vulgar notion has prevailed that it
•** datte to thaak the choir for tbeir •ervices. But
iia{i
with reference to this 1 have heard the late J
deacon Thorp say, that in his young days c
one bowpd on leaving the choir; that tJiey wi
as soon have thought of putting their kats on
neglecting to bow; and that when he was alittte
boy the height of the table, his father, who W»
archdeacon before himi would hare boxed bil
ears if he had not bowed to the altar as a ffood
Christian should. This vigorous exercise of pt-
rentil and archidiaconal functions might perhi
be remembered with advantage by some at
present day. Duitelmensu ol
Curious Epitaph* — The foUowinff is ftoiii
tombstone in Midnapore burial-ground: —
** Sr.<»p, readers, and lament the Io» of a < .
Ijeauty, for here are laid at rest the earthly mtioki
Mrs, Snsnnna Bird, who bade a long ndieo to a »
nlft'ctionate husband and thn*e InvRd pledges of tl
nnfon, on the 10th of September. 1784, aged twenty««tf
years,
" The Pf"* r-^-^-.o^ within thi- --^^' -^ '
Tho" I if^ tints htr
Tho' f ^Irop from i
By sleep leiVuah'd, more ben
Will rise from eartli, her »< r
And channt her anthems to u.. - -
From the 3lafwhfiter Gvm-dmn of Dec M, H'U
Thop. RiTCJLTrrSr
LoxGETiTT.^ — I was fit the funeral of a ^ood
old ludy of eigbty-aeven the nt^ - '-'^, irto
pointed out to me, the last time I JJSm
of being with her, that she was gi.-ti.'^.v.,.-|jwit
aunt to a certJiin child, I l>elieve this to U »
uncommon a relationship between living pei«a»
as to be worthy of a note. C. W. BiNrrUiM.
Hailway Match. — ^We are apt to think t>»^
speed was always slow on early rail way ?. A
cutting from the Mark Lam E.^'yyreM for l>tl
states "that JSlr. I. K. Brunei, the engin«*er on th«
Great Western Railway, was about to perform*
match from Bristol to London by the engim
called the ** Ilunicane," within two hotfrsi for
1000/., or nearly stxty miles an hour. Did ihii
match ever take place ? John Piooot, Jxrs.
History repeating itself. — The following
quotations from Whitelocke*8 Mtmiormh rliAn/mir
dates and names, might have been let
from PariB, with perfect truth, and aln^
same words. W. C. TreveltaJI.
"July 7th, 164a— A Letter from Colchester Umgrmt
that Bt'itler and Cheese -were at 6». a potind.
July 22nd— Thofte in the Town have b^ia «o ««
HorstfiiKhy and have provideti store of Pitch and T»»r,ti
fire and throw upon the Bcj-iegers.
July StUh.—The Sfildicrs in the Town had llv«d vm
fforxe-jhth five davs together, and at a Court of Giiiif
they roasted a whofa Hone.
August 4th.— When sonio ' *"" "^ -~ ^- ' ' "^
want of Victuals, Lorfl Gon
they inuat not complain tii
ponnci .
August 5tb.— Seventeen of the Enemy ctnid oat m w
«*8.Vn,Ar«tI,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
281
T<virn, comiiliiiiiini; thst their nlloirimce of Brtad wwi
t^ted from 14 to lo otxtioea a-tlJijf And that their. £rorff#-
JUsh *raA TTitinli tajnt^iL
A ^ ■ " ' '!kd 30 ffor9e* to powder them
S ' come out of the Town affirm
thit itll iitti Lhnjg mA CUftf, and most of the Hornet there
&re iilroadv catim.
8irpt.22mi.— One '^^ ^' "^^ ^* 7^ -rnt Cen-
tzlM bdng: kiUedf ni to fetch
inth# dcAd imrae, an :, jet got
ftOt the J (fine ; the n^oct il^,v tUt^y cauii^. ugaiu, and ven-
tQiod their UveSf to cut off pieces of the atinking^ dead
HorB^<» to BJLlkfy thdr hanger/*
ARTHiTRi.ut LocAXtTiEB. — I cfto add two places
to the Arthurian localities in Northumberland
ffitBn hj Mr, Stuart GlenDie* On the beach to
the north of Cress well Point there was a Iftrge
cntTikr jrock, called King Arthur's Table. This
b liow destroyed. One of the outwaxd Fern
litiiids is called Arthur's Seat^ and is so named
in ^mrejs of the coast. A Sexagenahian,
Ai^ACfi AXD LoRRAiKU* — Lately I read in
- V *i. Engliinh and foreign, that in Abaca
■ \ in the population of which the
h predominant, the worship of
idin^ that of his dynasty, was
\, Such an account' b far from
1 the feeling alluded to has long
r h lo, 1810, the Harq^uia de
[M litical ag-ent, was wiiting
ii Lawn, Vauxhall, to Louk-
1)' ' if Orleans: —
liltr une p«r»oniie Tenant de
a observer, et qui a par-
i <> Lorraine et do Franche-
"-^ ^ A rapportife de eta
lit^^ du gouvernc?-
touto la population
! dont rolijcit ftcrait
|ii'il existe deji^ un
u, ii« 793 1 Flut, cxxvi. cu foL 14 rocto.
Fb A y CISQlTE-MlCFBL.
Chib, Pall Mall
^ucritif*
DUGDALE'S " HTSTORT OF ST. PAUL'S
CATnEDRAL/'
Gin anj of joor learned correspondents help me
lidiirf»fcr Uie ** b>cal habitation '' of some of the
ifcia>€nte (luoted in Dugdale's Eidor^ of SL
JW« Ottimfdf Sir Henry Ellis^ in his edition
iIhigdA]« (foL London, 1818), throws no %ht
flt«fv7 ufion the particular points in which I
, istexcited* He tpve^, indeed. In tlie exceed-
\w tritsf pa^fat'*^ n f w details as to certain
» oC iafons 1 refers to documents
%\m lud obti the cathedral archiTes,
« 1^ Aupnvr ' 0, from Heralds* Col-
end mm tL ^s at Lambath and at
Oxford, But as to the ^urce from which several
Important pieces were obtmned I haye been un«t1
able to procure any certain information, although*
I have bestowed some little pains in searching.
At p. 342 of the appendix, article xixvii,, a
series of statutes are printed, extending over about
twelve closely printed pages, in double columna,
Tliese are said to be taken in part " ex Cod* MS,
penAfl Will. Pierpont Arm,," and I think that this
heading is simply reprinted Jxom the earlier edi*
tion of Dugdale. But who was ** Will. Pierpont
Arm.," and where is this ** Cod* MS." now de-» |
posited? I have inq^uired at Heralds* College ,
out I think I may say it is not theret Garter King- ,
at-Arms himself having kindly assisted me in my
search ; nor is it, I think* amongst the MSS. &t
Lambeth.
At p. 344 of the appendix it is said that the
greater part of the above article is taken " ex alio
Codice MS. pen^s pncfaL W, Pierpont Arm,"
Whereis this MS,?
At p. 3<3C) a very interesting document is found,
intituW *'£xhibita a Johanne Collet Decano, re*
verendlssimo Patri et Domino Cardinali Ebor. oo
Apostt>lico Legato ft latere, pro lie formation a
status Residentiarionim in Ecclesia S. Pauli|
primo Septembrie, A^ IX 1518." This is said to
be taken ** ei cartaceo registro penes pr«;f. Dec et
Cap. Eccl, Cath, S. Paidi Lond/^ The article
extends over some seven pages. Where is tliii
document ? Certainly not now '^ penes prsef Dec,
et Cap.," for the archives of the dean and chapter
are under my care, and I can say with c*'rtainty
that it is not to be found amongst them. ** Colet*8
Statu te9»" says Dean Milmiui in his Annah (2nd
edit, p. 124), "were never accepted bv the chapter,
nor confirmed by the bishop." Still they merit
careful attention, and form a not uuiutereating
item in the history of the cathedral.
A little further on in the appendix, p. 401,
article Ivi., we arrive at a list of ** Books apper^
taining to the Cathedral Church of S. Paul in
London, delivered by Mr, Henry Cole, late Bean
of tho same Church to M'. D'. Mey, now Dean
there, xx*" Day of September, An*' 1559," which
list is said to have been taken " ex vet, membr,
penes Dec, et Cap* Eccl. Cath, 8, Pauli.'' Now
in this catalogue 1 find no l4.^8s than three books-
about which 1 should be most thankful to receiT»
information. The first a book intituled *' Statutes
u^ed in Dean Collet's Days" ; the .**eeond, " Liber
visitation is Johauois Colet Decani EccleedfiB S.
Pauli Loml, ^nb anno Domini 150G"; the third,
** a book written in parchment of certain Statutes
collected by Dean Colet, heing bound in boards
and covered with black ..-ather." Kow, where
arc these boiiks to be found ? Of course it is easy
at once to diffniiss the question, and to &ay. **0h,
th«y were burnt in the Great Fiivi," \iv\V ^weVwi
Ruawer will not meet t\ift c*a©, l*^it oxiq
282
NOTES AND QUERIES* [4"- s. vri. airil u ^.
least out of the thirteen enumenited in the cata-
logiie is still under my care ; and beaideSi I think
that Knig-ht, in hia Life of Coletf refers to the
pftrchment book '* covered with black leather/^
which fonns the third item above-niontioned, aa
atill in existence, I have not Knight's book at
hand, nor perhapa is an exact reference necessary.
Pray, Mr. Editor, help me if you can. There
are several points in these docunaenta which I
desire to verily, and I am especially anxious to
determine whether the origioals are still in exist-
ence. Whether any one of them may be dia-
coyered amongst the archives of the City of
London — a mine of wealth as yet but partially
explored— or whether they may liirk in secret
amongst the papers of some City company, or may
even rest amongst the multituainoua MSS. of the
cational collection (in which case they have eluded
my search hitherto) I am unable to determine. I
do not think that Colet'a MSS. now in<^uired for
will be found either at St Paulas School or
amonjri^t the archives of the Mercers* Company,
although at either place I believe that othwr
MSS. of the dean still remain. The Rev. J. II,
Lupton has lately pnhlished Tipo TS-eaHseM of the
Hieranhm of Dimiijum and the Opit^ de Sacra-
mentU Et}€lem(&f both by Dean Colet, from the
original MvSS. preserved in the library of St Paul's
School ; but he has not discovered in the school
library any of the volumes that form the subject
of the present inquiry,
W. Spabbow Simpson.
I
Ababio NtTMiRALS m Wells Cathedral.—
Since the restoration of the west front of Welk
Cathedral began it has been discovered that in
the line of euhjecta representing the resurrection
of the dead each group bas had a number marked
on it In the space over end of north aisle of
nave the figures of A, 8. 9. occur, which are Arabic
omnerals almost precisely as used at the present
day, These sculptures are of early date, and not
like those of the three top rows containing the
figure of our Lord^ the row of apoatles, and that
of angels — all of which are of Perpendicular date,
though evidently not the work of one artist.
The rising iigures of kinga^ quyns, and bishops
have crowns or mitrea on their heads ; otherwise
they are naked. The tomb-slabs are all plain,
but from their general shape, together with those
of crowns and mitres, the sculptures cannot date
later than the early Decorated period. The gene-
ral character of the other numernb seen does not
agree with tho figures used during the Perpendi-
cular period.
Aa the restoration proceeds a greater variety of
the figures will be seen, and perhaps further in-
formation obtained. The material used is the
local Doulting atone, so that the work was exe-
cuted at or near the spot j but the use of these
figures see ma to raise a doubt^ in so far aa, if the
artists wer6 local men, their numerals of this sort
were used commonly much earlier than id gene-
rally supposed ; or, if otherwiae, the carvers wwa
brought from a district where these numbers wew
known to a country where they were not generaflj
used or known to execute the sculptures.
No letters have as yet been seen on any of them,
nor masons' marks, tliough maaons' baoKer marh
are abundant on the cathedral and in the bed-
jointa of the stones of west front
Would any uf your readers kindly inform ma
of any very early examples of which tl.
certainly be obtained, or at least appro
in England ? Jas, i. ii.\ i ->.*;.
Coomb Down, Bath*
Sra Robert Botlb.— It is stated in the Um
^f fhfi Jris/i ChanceUor^ by Mr. O' Flanagan, vol. L
p. 381, that Sir R. Boyle was sent from IreliDd
with despatches for Queen Elizabeth annoimcing
the success of her majesty's forces at Kinsale ia
1601-2, and that he left Shandon Castle, Cork oa
Monday raoniinff^ and the next day, Tuewhtj,
supped with Sir K. Cecil, Secretary of State, atmf
house in the Strand. What authority is tien
for this apparently incredibly rapid journey ? P»
BuRFP.— What is the original meaning of tlw
word bnrff or hurff From whence is it aeriywi,
and how comes it to be locally used for an emi-
nence? Thomas 'K Wi^ndtoto^,
Clergy nc Stepitet Parisii after 1050.—
If auy of yonr readers will refer me to any allu-
sions to the ministers mentioned below, wbo
othciated in this parish during the time stated
against their names, and to any works they m*y
have published^ I shall feel greatly obliged.
Thomas Walton, 1054 to 1656. In Pahnct*!
edition (18G2) of Calamy's Nmiconfanmd^ Metno'
rial mention is made of a ** Mr. Walton," tJj«
vicar of West Ham, Essex, who was ejected firott
that ii^dng. Are these the same persons P
Thomas Marriot, 165G to 1665 or 1070. Tlfl
was also lecturer of this parish in 16<M-5.
Samuel Peck, about 1665 or 1070 to 16J^.
After 1090 he was at Ipswich*
Any further particulars than those which ap-
pear in the editorial notes to my queries in 4*** is.
V. 120, 199 regarding the Rev. John Wheler afli
Rev. Henry Iligginson (aa to their curacies Ifi
Surrey and St. Marylehono) would be mort
acceptable. Chaelss MasoKi
3, Gloucester Crescent, Hyde Park*
CONSECBATIOIT OF RBOlMEITrAL COLOlTai.—
The following passage appears in sereral his-
torical accounts of Shrewsnury : —
** 1759* A Regt. of Foot was raised, and rendeiTttoJ
here. They ivere callefl the * Royal Volntit<?CT** (85tli
Foot, mi*cd 1769, disbunded 1768). CoL Crairford com-
manded tbem» Qu Dec. 21, 1759, the colours wen rtc^
* S. Tn. April I, *71,]
NOTES AND QUERIES-
283
great pomp, being carried in processioa to St.
ui'fi Chnruli, where a seriuou waj» preactied by the
ir<* Rawlaad Chanibre.**
[Can any reader give me further particulArs of
*■ I ceremaoy ? The proceaakm of the coloura to
ch was certainly an innovation in a miUtary
Qt of view, and, considering how little atten-
yfBLS then given to ritualiBtic ceremonial, I
inclined to think in an ecclesiafitical sense
H. M.€,
(Some potieea of the conAecratiua of He^i mental Cck
^n lUtty be found in « N, & Q./' !•» S. x. 10, 75 ; 2»«» S.
iLoED AJiii La0T BoRNK-^Thomas Whitby,
I,, of Hoiiuslow, Middlesex, a widower, aged
aty, had a licence £rom the Bishop of Londoo,
iy 4, 1021, to marry Lady Alice Dome aliag
txnycooke, hged fifty, widow of the late Lord
I should be glad to know who was this
i or Lady Dome. X L. C.
iFAraY CHAiTGKLrpros, — The superstition re-
Vcting fairy changelinga still lingers, I believe,
[ some of the remoter rural districts of Ireland.
or 14 it wholly without foundation, for that
idea and unaccountable chang^ea^ — which simple-
nded people take to he preternatural — do often
IT iu the health, appearance, and temper of
Hts IS an undoubted fact. My querv i»,
medical science has yet given a full ex-
of the physical causes of those chang^es ?
exposition'exiatSj where is it to be found ?
D. BLAIfi.
[JoHK Fell, Bishop of 03cford» ob, 1686, vet
xty-one ; bora at Longworth, Berks. Can any
' your readers eive the pedigree of this divim^'P
t am anxious to know if he came of an old fiimily
jfFell of Redmayne Hall, in Furness, Lancashire,
ifhich resided tnere for nineteen generations.
iThcimas Fell, a barrister-at-kw, a learned judge,
Itnd Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster during
' ! Commonwealth, was of the same stock The
' ttm of Judge Fell and Bishop Fell are ditfeTent.
11 Barber, M J).
ttocl F«ll» dean of Christ Cbtirch, the father of
rjohn Fell, is »ald to have been born in the parish
dement Danes, London {Bioq. Britannica, ed. 17.50,
) J but the pedj^^ree in the iteralds" Cflllego, which
»CM with the dean, atatea ♦' Samuel Fell, S. T. P,
Court in the parish of Miich-Marde, co. Here-
t* who married Margaret, daughter of Thomas Wyld
r W0re«»t«r. K*»q. John Warburton, Somerset Herald
{laml ' V Uktex HUitrated, ed, 1749, p. 41), haa
I J"igji ving arms to Biiihop Fell : ** Ftll, Kstq.,
■ ■<• conioineil in fess azure, on the middli^
fwhttif thereon n cros^ p&tty fitched or,
between a portcullis and « leopard's face
rlthlu a border gales, charged with four loscenges
cscabpt alternate argent. Tbe» are borne by
*" iq^ citiaea of London, by Tirttie of an old
I given to hia aticettor. Bishop Fell, now in
Tom Brown, the wittj^ and faceUoas writer of IHalo^es
of the Dead^ in imitation of Lncioff^ fr., b«tn|jf about 10.
be expelled the Uaiver^iiy of Oxford for some faulL wa
pardoned by Samuel Fdl)^ the Di.an of Christ Church, «
the condition that he should translate extempore the epi^
gram from Martial, itxxiU. :—
•♦Xon amo te, Zjibidi, nee posaom dicere qoare ;
Hoc tan turn possum dicere, noa amo te,"
which he instantly rendered :
" I do not like thee. Dr. Fell,
The reason why 1 cannot tell ;
But Ihia I know, full randv well,
I do not like thee, Dr. FellV'
Some hnef notices of the Fells of Lancajshire may hi"*
found iu " N. & Q.,^* !•* S, iiL 142 j iv. 258 ; vi, 238,
279.]
Hanesb GiNTnn AXD Thoh A8 Ljlppagb, —
Can any of your German readers gi^e nie infor-
mation concerning Hanese Ganthe and Thomas
Lappftge, who were inhftbitants of Dantxig in
1528 ? They were, 1 suppose, merchants, as they
are deacribecl in a document before me as factors
to John Parys and Reynold e Litilprowe, who
were En^Hsh subjects. Edwabd Peacock.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
HEintT MIL AND THE G OLDEN Flbecb.— Did
Henry WW. ever poseeaa the Order of the Golden
Fleece ? Are there any repreaentations of him as
wearing that order ? Albert Butteby.
Rev. John Macgowax, V.P.M., author of 77<ir
Sfmver, A short time since a Tery quaint like-
ness in ink of this gentleman came into ray pos»
session, but I have no means of aacertaining who
he was or when he lived. In his right hand he
holds a roll of paper, inecribed ** Letters to Dr.
Priestley/* His dress appears to be that of the
latter part of the eighteenth century. Can any of
your readers tell me who this gentle mim waa,
and the meaning of V.D.M. ? T. A. IL
[John Mocgowan was bora at Edinburgh about the
vear 172''>, and wft?i placed oat to the trade of a weaver.
In September, 17CG, he became pastor of ft Particular
Baptijit congregation meeting in Devonabire Sqnan*
London, where he continued nearly flfleea yean, and
died on Nov. 25, 1780, in the fifty-fifth year of hie age,
and wjia buriird iu Bunbill Fieldj. V.D.M. i» Verbi Dei
or (Diviui) Miniftter, a Minister of God'sWord, It is
n5rnarkab1e that W. Tooke, in his annotated edition of
Charles Churchill's Works^ bos not taken any notice of
Churchiir» poem Nighty with notci by The Shaver, 1786.
For a list of Macgowan's IKorAt, consult Wilson's Hi$-
iojy nf Dinentin^ Churcke*, i. 463 ; to which add a col-
lected edition of his Workt^ with a portrait, in two volsu
8vo, 1825, He h also noticed in G* H, Pike's Ancient
Jifeetinff IIou«€9, 1870, p. 6.5,]
Spenser' !i PAJforE.— In the Faeri/Qiteate^^S^ 37,
Fanope is introduced as an " old nymph " who kept
the house of Proteus, la this Panope the Nereid
(Virg. yEn, T. 240, 823) ; and if so, had Spenser
any claaaical authority for thus repreaenting her ?
C. S* J»
SttTRi's Epmoir of the Book of ConiLOfS^
284
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«fcS,TU* AfbilI^TL
»* Ka^rflven and printed by the permisaion of Mr. Jolm
Bofikett, printer to tho King'* most excellent Majcstf,
1717. Sold bj John Stiwt, Engraver, in Golden Lion
Coart in Aldersgate Street"
I am ftnxioiig to know if there are many copies
of this beautiful work extant. It must have been
nublialied at great expense. Every pair® ia printed
trom a separate copper-plate. Thi? text tliroughoiit
ia in running bana, debc^tely executed. The ini-
tial letters are big-hlv ornamented, Each page
has rich and vaii^ borders, well designed and
aved,
be Epistles and Goapels have head pieces illus-
trating tuem ; some are very good and admirably
etched, reminding one of Bertaux'a and Morti*
iiier*5 etchings, particularly those wliicli relate to
our Lord's Passion, The headings and tail pieces
lo the separate Obnrch OMces are ver^ gond. In
one of the front pages is a profile of king George,
within a circular band of three incbea iu diameter,
with this inscription : —
" The offices of King George containi the Lord's
Praj'<?r, the Creeds the Ten CknuniaodmentA, the Pravcrs
for the King and the Boj^al Family, and the 2i&t F^n."
By the aid of a microscope every word may be
clearly read. There is a lidt of subscribers to' the
work, numbering between three and four hun-
dred* Ben J. Fehrey, F,S,A.
{HofAce Walpolo (Anerdohs of Puintiap, ed. 1849,
iii. l>riN) thus notif?e5 thiiJ painful work of art: ^StAirt'a
capital wark wa,i hh Otmmon Pmijer BcKik^ published by
Sttbjc rip lion in 1717: it is all enj^raven ven' neatly on
aUver plates in two columns, with Ix^rders round each
filate, small histories at top* and initial ktters. It n a
arge octaves and containa 16(t plata?, besides twenty-two
in the btiginning, which conaitts of the dedication, table,
preface, calendar, names of subacribers, &c. Predxpd is
a bust of Georj^ 1. in a round, and faring it those of the
Priace and Princeaa of Wales. On the King's bust are
engraven the Lonrs Prayer, Creed, Commacidnients,
Prayers for the Eoyal FAmily* and the 21st Paalin, but
0O small Ai not to be legible wit bout amar^ifpngglaifl^''
There are at least three copies in the British Mmenm.
For the vaiionjt Bums it has fet<U]ed at sales, see Bohn*s
XeiMid^p. nH2.]
Wife of Jonx Tr^ibescant. — C. K. wii^lies to
ascertain lln^ date of the death and place of burial
of ElizabL'tlj, the wife of John Tradescant the
elder. They were married at Meopham in June,
16()7; and their sou, also named John, was born
in Augu&t, 1C08. They ippti' to have been in
the employ aa gardener.^ of Robert Cecil, Earl of
Salisbury, lord of the manor of Shorae, who died
in 161 2, and of Kobert Lord Wotton of Boughton
Malherht.% who died in 1CI08. We next find them,
father and son. settled at Lambeth, at some period
previous to 10:^9, as gardeuere to King Charlea I.
and his mieen Henrietta Maria ; but no record of i
the wife Elizabeth haviag accompanied them, and |
lier name does not occur either in the Lambeth
iT%>ister or on the family tombstone, |
;h«dal
i
Sir Alexajtbbb TiroMaoK,— I ehoald feel
obliged to an^ correspondent of " N. Bl Q." who
can teU anything of this gentleman, and of the
services w^ich obtained for him the honour of
knighthood. Ho waa the son of John Thomson,
town-clerk of Glasgow, 1620-^; was born in
1606-7, and was, I think, the brother of Elizabeth
or Bessie Thomson, wife of Jame-s Peadie of
Roughill — a family which for three or four gener-
ations held a leading position in Glasgow *-"'--
the highest civic ofHces ; and of which, I
Grizel Peadie, wife of Sir William Mi
Calderwood, Bart., became the heiress of line «]
1740. M*Ure, who styles Sir Alexander " Major,"
at p. 209 of his History of Glasgow, tranacrihefl
the epitaph on his monument in the oath«dal
churchyard of Glasgow as follows : —
" Memorin* aacnim D. Alexandri
Thomson! Eqaitia aurati,
Quooilatn in regie ^ncRidio
Centurionia lidi^imi, furtiss:
Tlgilantiiis ; tjui pie ac plaeidc in
Domino obdormivit,
Octob. 1&, anno 1G69, n?tati» 63."
To this epitaph are subjoined some versa,
probably incorrectly copied by M'Ure, but which,
as he gives them, exhibit the peculiar combinatintt
of two consecutive hexameters followed by i
single pentameter ; —
" ileDtk honoa, virtutis amor, fama Integra, eaadoTt
ThomsoQum omabant vivum \ nunc cere percnni
Firma magis fama; slant monumenta dttcis," etc
The name Thomson, common na it ia in Soot-
land generally, ia of singnlarlj rare occurrence in
the old Glasgow registers. Northhax.
Old Voluntbeel Corps, — Can any teadar of
"N. &Q." inform me wher? I can find i^rticuliisi
of the volunteer corps formed about the y<«
1745, more partieulnrly of one formed in LondoQ
in 1744, and stated by the GcntlcmmiA Motfoam
for that year to bo composed of Swiss readiitfiik
and by Wade's B)%tuh Hutory to be composed
of two hundred Swiss servants, and oommaDdtd
by Colonel De^jean P H. L
Voyageur Pigeons. — Being very much in-
terested in " voyagieur pigeons,^* or rather in the
discovery of the faculty by which ther soek th«f
homea from extreme distances, I should fed visit
grateful to any of your readers who will fumim
me with their views upon the subje<'t. The Bel-
gians, who may be said to have reduced ** ptgeoo^
flying'* almost to a science, term this facul^
** orientation/' Now the nearest rendering of this
term I take to be " the power of finding the ca^
dinal points/' The EngUBh Pigson Am&tmtt b^
lieves they shape their ooniae l^ 'Mandmarki.'*
I have many cases which cause me to doobt this
theory* The first is, a bird only nine weeks old
returned from a distance of seventy milea. It had
never before been half a mile from its home; ind
^S.VU. April 1.7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
a Belgian carrespondent of undoubted Yeracltj
had lately an old bird that bad^ without the least
trainings returned home £rom a distance of two
butidred and fieventy-aix miles* Whether this
faculty he "instinct," "by the stare/' "land-
mark/' or yet undiecovered means, is the queation
I am anxious to have aolyed*
B. W. Alldridqb.
Hpld Charlton, Kent.
^Bpur corrcflj^ondeiit will find some infeanathig nctfeos
^^pe early use of this cairifir pli^eon hi the Fenn^ Cvdo-
HKb, vi. 17(j, art- "Carrjer Pigeon " ; Chambflra'* AWi/-
cftyMMJia, ii* 633 ; Blackwood'^ Edinburgh 3faffazme, vi.
514; aad Ripley and Donahs N«w American Cifciofwdm,
■T. 483-485. Dr. Zachary Grey, in hia note^on Hudibrm^
Part n. canto i. liae 55, boa a carious one on ibeae early
f
• With letters hang like eastern pigeona.**
Tqgctincier'i
Mamag»meni
all, perhftpa, the beat works to consnlt are, W. B.
;aieieri Pig&mM, their Structure, Varietien^ Habiliy find
i, with Repreaentationa by HarritK>u Weir,
'▼iii. and ix. Ix>tid. 1868, 4to^ and Orbigney, Die*
^^mm^rt iTIlittmre NaturtlU, x. 167, 4c.]
^MTelsh Wbddinq Custom. — There \s a curious
■Hkom in North Wales of sending a soiali quan*
'^ty of ^nger, or in some places a harel stick, on the
day of the wedding of some fair one, to the man
or men who were supposed to have been refused
Plilted by her. Can aoy one tell me the on gin
ihis custom, or if it ia practised elsewhere P
Y Blaibd.
tsA, CiTiTERiJf B Zepeyb.— iVmongfft a ntimher
old prints I have discovered one which I be-
lieve to be rather scarce. It is dated June 30,
1784, and represents ii woman holding in her huiid
an open fan, the pattern of which she L^ atten-
tively examining. It is entitled ** Mrs. Catherino
2ephyr, the celebrated Fan Vender/' and und&c-^
Beath are the following lines : —
»*^ A Face diiiguuM without a Maak*
A WaiAt lis round a^ anv Cftf»k,
A r - '•^^ . • ■ ; ■*. -■
A .ea,
Wbli lio'd witt) 1 at aWut tiie VVrtdU,
A gT«at Protuberance behind,
Blown out with either Flti&h or Wind,
Then inch a Tongue 1 to hear her speak,
*TwotiJd drown vonr Hearing for a Wtiik.
To turn the whole, learcli thro' her Sex,
To match her wotild Old Nick perplex."
should like to know whether tMs scurrlloua
luctino i» a caricature upon some great per-
ge of the time, or whether there was any such
as Mrs. Zephyr, If she were a real cha-
I should m glad to have any parti culara
&boiit her.
SAA'DALIIfM.
[We would advise onr ourrespondont to submit this
canoaa caricature to the officials of the Print Uoorn of
the BritiaK Moaeam. It had certainly escaped the «ir-
I of the lat« Edward Hawkiaa, Esq.]
LONGS AND PALMERS OF BATH.
ii'^ S. vU. 760
In reply to that portion of H. P.*s jnqidry lel
tive to the relationship between Mr* Walter Longr "
of Bath and John Palmer^ Esq., M.P. for that
city, and stated to be through the Bayutou family
of the Ijonga, I beg to offer a few remark*!. They
were, aa your correspondent has quoted frnm
Burke, settled at Baynton— an estate purchai*»_'d
from Dan vein's by John Long of Little Chevrill,
who died ]ti7ti; and Baynton continued in the
possession of Loogs till sold, some years aLnce,
to the trustees of Mr. Watson Taylor. No
match appears in the pedigreee of Long of Wraxall
(from which family Mr. Walter Long is proved
to have descended) which could have produced
relationship between Mr, Palmer and the wealthy
commoner ; and therefore I confine myself to the
Baynton family of Long, which H. P. represents
aa the channel of the relationship which he asserts -
to have existed* This information may be of usa
in helping his future investigation. There id a
monument in Edingtou churcii^ in which paribh
Baynton lies, to the memory of a Long of Bayn^
ton, with these arms : Long of Wraxall, quartering
3 and 3 Duedert quarterly as. and guleSi an eaoar-
buDcle of eight staves, or.
Another branch of the same line of descent aa
the Longs of Baynton o uartered, with the coat of
Longs of Wraxall, Hubbard vert, a chevron be-
tween three eagles' heads erased argent, ducally
gorged or. Through these matches H. P, may
perhaps establish relationship between Longs of
liayolon and Palmers, I do not notice the incorreafc
information he gives as to the ultimate disposal I
of Mr. Walter Long's great wealth, because it
seems a matter of private concern, and the curious
may obtniu nil parti culaiia by referring to I^eroga*
tivt I^'ohaii'if for lb07.
Mr. Jones Long had only a participation in the
income of the estates, certainly not testamentary
heirtibip to Mr. Walter Long's entire fortune : be
also (ltd comply with the condition which H. P.
tells us was made to Mr. Palmer, and which he
flo unaccountably refused to accept H. P. will
find an elaborate pedigree of Long of W^raxall
and of Little Chevrill (same as of Bajntnu) in
Walker's Hisiori/ of Wmxail Mousty compiled by
Mr. Beltz and Air. dharles Edward Long, author of
Moyai Descents, The late Mr. Long of l^reshaw.
for more than fifty years, assiduously collectea
every fact connected with the Long pedigree. lie
has given^ in Burke's Landed Gentnjy all the evi*
dence which can be produced in support of the
traditional connection between the Longs of i
W^raxall and those of Little Chevrili I am not
aware of any other sources of information ape^ •
cially relating to Longs of Baynton,
286
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'J'S.VII. A^BJtl,'*
I mav mention as an laBtAnee (perhaps the
oldest) that the Longfl of Little Chevrill ua^d tlie
eame arms as thoski nf Wraxull, tbat the will of
Thomas Long^, father of the purchaser of Bnrnton,
is sealed with a shield hearinj? a Hon rutnpant
within an orle of cross croealets, and iiupaling
Flojrer, a chevron between three arrows, E. W,
*• WHETHER OR NO."
(4*»' S. vii, 142.)
' Beinpf nmong^ those who would rather be wrong
-mtk Shakespeare than rii^ht with the reat of the
world, I cannot allow that the above expression
is ** corrupt English/' nor even that "there may
be two opinions on the subject/' Let me refer
M. At B. to Kint; John^ Act II. Sc, 1. Iti7 ;- —
"Shame upon you, whether she doca or no.'*
And in The Mernj Wives of Wmd^or (Act IV*
So. 5), Simple is sent with two messa^s to Sir
John Faistaff from Slender —
***..,, to know, sir, whether oQfi Kym, air, that be-
guiled him of a chain, had the chain or no/'
And further —
'* . , * about Miatre^s Anne Pnge ; to kaow if it were
my mafltcr's fortun« to have her, or no/*
C. G. Prowett.
Garrick Club.
I hasten to give ray support venr decidedly to
the view taken by M. A, B. as to the impropriety
of saying^ " Whether or no ** instead of not, I have
l>een for years declaiming against this slovenly,
nn^mmmaticftl way of speaking. The phrase Is
pbu&ly elliptical, and needs only to he drawn out
in full to ahow its absurdity on its face, I wiah^
for inatAnco^ to tell a person that I shall go to such
a place, whether some other event happens or
do-es not happen* Certainly then I ought to tell
him that I shall go ** whether (that happens) or
not, tbat k, or does not happen." The phrase
** whether or no " is rank nonsense in the opinion
of F. C. IL
The epithet '^slip-shod " should properly be ap-
plied to the English of those who ungrammaticallv
aod iiiogically employ the phrase " whether or not^^
instead of *^ whether or no/' which from Alfred
the Great's time down to the present day has been
used (with some slight change of form ) by the
best native writeri?, and ia, therefore, thoroughly
Enjjiish, <|uite grammatical, and, what is more,
logically exact
1. rf7*<?^/*er contains a comparative sufBx -ther,
and original I V signified which of two (cp. other =
one of two, the first or the second in Old English).
It implies, therefore, two statements— an aiilmia-
tive as well bs a negative one; though, in the
phrase wkdher or f lo, on ly the n^^o^iW is expressed,
j^ea OT ^es being understood*
% Conjunctions join sentences ; in wheiKer or no
the two sentencee are contracted, ffen being ^hiH
contraction of an affirmative sentence, and m* ot i^|
negative one. ^^
The complete phrase then is whfthet'^ ywi or «(i|
by which we see that not, instead of no^ would I
incorrect on crammatical and logical grounds,
may be asked, however, is nut all this n mere lin^
gui^tic theoiT ? I>o the facts of the writti u lan^;
guage furnish' sufficient proof that whtsiher or no z
whether ffvn or no f The following extracts muijl^
we thinlc, satisfy all reasonable minds : —
** First it 18 donbtf nil whether those barbarous Tart^iriini
do know an unieornea home, y«a or mo" (Ujiklu^iW
Voyagen, l(i(KJ, vol. iii. p. 20.)
♦♦ , » , whether it were an unjcomes home, * ea or tnK*
King's CoU<^( London.
'1
tinS
■4
« BAROX " NlCilOLSOX.
(4^'»S, vi. 477; Tii. 18.)
The Aidohioyraph^ of thla well-known p^h
character is an interesting yet painful record l
misused abilities, discreditable adventures, and i
generally wasted life; but is, nevertheless, worthy
of preservation from ita racy and humorous ^tyl<
and its graphic pictures of London life. Its pagi^
moreover,Vwill be found to atlurd a nch harvest of
anecdotes of well-known characters about town,^
such for iostfljice as Sir John Dean Paul; Hanj
Holt; '' Pea-Green '* Haynes ; Robert Taylor, the
*'Devir8 Chaplain '^ Hughes Ball, of "golden'''
notoriety; Charles Molloy Westmacott^ of Ihl
Atjc : Edward Oxford ; " Ephemera " FitxgibbQQ|i
Haydon the painter; Mesbach Ilowley; Jotol
M inter Hart; Dufrene; "Stunning'* Joe Banka;^
and a host of others who strutted and fretted their
brief hour upon lifers stage at the same penod m
our hero.
It is perhaps with the once celebrated weekljj
aerial, The 7oir», that the nam© of NichoUoa, itti
founder and manager, is most intimately asaocintedfl
The first nimiber of this appeared June 3, 1857|j
the price weekly was 2^?,, and it was long j
tinued with great success. The chief contrib"
were the editor; Henry Pellatt, the " Brougli
of the Judge and Jury Society; the clever hut
profligate John Dalrymple ; J, G. Cauning; Ed»
ward Blancbard ; and, not unfrequently, no lets a
person than the *^ Doctor " himself, the lata Wilr
liam Maginn, LL.D.
Of the origin and establishment of this paper
our author gives, in his AtUobiographt^^ so hu*
morons and interesting an account, that I am
inclined to transfer it, in a condensed form, to
these pages. With a young wife depending upco
him» and utterly devoid of meana, aeedr* hangiif.
and penniless, Nicholson crammed soma ** copy "
4«^&TM, AfttJi.1,*TL]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
287
la hh pnc!f^t, an^ proppeded to the office of a
T»^ hpen given to him —
il. irti Street, Hampsteftd
KoikI, liud Ui leave the MS. for the
grsftt Ti il Hi leisure? and here, returning
»t nighttail, tJi-j jkacket was handed to him by a
eenranty with tha curt iniimation that " Master
aud it Trr>uldn*t do." Here follow some philo-
BO{>hiciLl rctiections, which I am tempted to quote
^ - - - n of the author's style, ihe personnel
of V '* Baron " is familiar to many of ua.
Hi -as rotund and portly, as that of on*j
■wl nt to ** do himself well," and it was
dou^.. .j.'^ own feelings, as he *' tottered down
the »tieps '* after this craol repnUe, that suggested
the remarks I am about to transcribe :■ —
**Ohf iH^slidlous reader « . . did 3'ou ever look apon
avtdy fai man ? . . , . Fat in p^ivertj excites no sym-
jMtliy. T1j<j thou;: till ess say» * A ^eat fat fellow "lik«
ihal 'to talk a1 •tint ti«ittix serving! Why don't he work^
and gn »omr . ' • " u off liia bone.% the laiy vaga-
ipa4! Peopit NOW that any fat aian is indii»-
triooa. The _ o( a luiity inaa in rags Is ex-
tfondy Judicfuud. Tht^ hat will cot itsaiime itn jaunty
and knnwittg lrK>k vhcn &ttick on one side, if old, battered*
and mi*-6httf i' •' - ^t won't meet anyhowt though
«rtined ^nd i button j the batton holes have
▼ithcrod, fln<l i ling that, they seem to breathe
t deCermiuation with violence something like, *l won*t
oraioto!'
tOfIr '^ *
. • Like a drunken obstinate fttllow in cus-
n-boles slip down, nnd the buttons slip oflt
*Ti t of fortitude can ever sustain a seedy fat
itm iid. The veiy straps straggle with the
*li ra to control tbera, rt et armit, over the
th> wa, commonly called Bluchers. The waist-
KnU ufl") rt iuonl aiTgrrtvating practice of rising up, in
aoBMqoeoce of the broadrte** of the abdomen, four inches
•bora Ihe front of the wai^^tband, and exposing the un-
Mascbed calico of the under garment in a manner enough
to laake the lui^ty man de.^pair Oh, umiable reader I
don\ get fat tfyou are poor," — Autobiography ^ page 232»
hxix enough of this, perhaps; a "cool half-
it," Btood by a ?'ympathetic Iriend, restored the
author'^ coNniu'p?. and later in the day he
the attack on the printer. This important
was buayj he had not had time to read
, &c, ; and so bis hungry visitor insisted
piving hitn a taste of its fpality himself. He
[eetcd the story of ** Mr. Sam, Wilkina and JkHss
Molly Baggs," and commenced to read it in his
lich and mellow voice. The printer listened per-
Ibrce, and, in spite of himself, became interested ;
strove long to maintain his dignity, but the
ler caniM at last to '*a paasage so irresistibly
lie, that Joe could stand it no longer." He
tuik ba^k in a fit of uncontrollable laughter;
Compositors and pre^men heartily joined ; and the
mtithcr knew that he might cloae his reading. The
partita at oncp proceeded to business, and it was
icranaed tbat the series of tales was to be pro-
^tt<*w<f f»s a w<v*kly perioditMil ; the author to con-
trib ns a week, and receive 3/,
«Tc. More thaji this, the man
of busineas told him that, <' aa he was going to
leave the manuscript,*- he might draw a pound on
account Hear hia owu description of liis emo-
tions:—
** A a soon as 1 heard this I bad great difficulty in re-
straining myself from leaping up and cutting six in isvf
flolelesa VVellinglons. 1 was overjoyed; I could not vtam.
home ; I jumped home, every inch of the way, gra-iping
the sovereign in my clenched fiat. A sovereign i^ a
baady thing when there are no coals in the cupbuurd, and
tliat was the case with me before I gut the pouaiL*''—
Ibid, page 239.
These humorous town sketches wore issued in
a separate form under the title of ^ —
•'Cockney Adventures and Tales of London Life. Br
Renton NiehoUon," 8va, London (^Clark, VVorwiclt
Lane), 1838, pp. 16^
The volame consists of twenty-one penny num-
bers, with woodcuts to each, in the marked and
vigorous style of ** C. J. G.,*' by wliicli initials
many of them are signed. These, like the tales
which they illustrate, are laughably comic ; but
truth compels me to add, though Mr. Jacksok
has forgotten this, that both are marked by a fre-
quent coarseness (not to put too fine a point upon
it), which necessitatefi the relegation of thi^ volnmo
to an upper shelf.
Bound up with these tales, and illustrated also
by " C. J. G.," are two other ephemeral imitations
or Dickens, which appeared about tha same perif>d.
One is entitled —
" The Poathumous Papers of the Cadgers* Club, con-
taining the Lives, Characters, and intt;re^^ting Anecdotes
of the Members of that celebrated Body. With Eighteen
superior Engravings.** London (LloydJ, 8v'o, 1838,
pp. y2.
The otber—
•* The Sketch'Book. By * Boa.* Containing a great
number of highly interesting and original akctches, Ac*
4c." Ijondon (Lloyd), pp. ^8,
I have always considered these to be the pro-
duction of Nieholaon ; but^ as he doea not men-
tion them among hia literary achiovements, I am
thrown into doubt. I collected them at the time
of their publication, and imagine that it would
now be impossible to recover copies. They are
not devoid of a certain talent, but this is not suf-
ficient to stimulate much curiosity aa to their
origin. The initials ** C. J. G.*' indicate the cari-
caturist, Charles Jameson Grant, an artist who, in
his ntu-row walk, though com-se in sentiment, and
mannered in execution, was not without a certain
amount of ready vigorous power. Of his artiatic
career very little is known.
I must not forget to chronicle a alender and
not ill- written booklet —
•' The Cigar nnd Smoker's Companion," 8vo, London
(C. Vickem;, pp. 16.
But at this period the cares of the "Oamck*§
Head " and the midnight duties of the *^ Ik
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»*8,VI1, Arrntt
and Jury Society " monopolided oqjp author^B ener-
gies, and left no* time for the cultivation of literft-
lope. About iive years later we have —
"Dornbey jtnd Daughter : a Moral Fiction, By Kcntoo
N> ^^l>k)a,'LordChki Baron of the Celebrated .lud^ and
Society, U- Id nt the * Garrick'i Head Hotel^ Bow
^SUevt, London. PiiblUbed by Thomas Fanis, 840^ Strand.
SoJd by the BookaeUcra." lioyal 8vo, o. d. pp. b^4.
Here ends my knowledge of tlie litorary doings
of Renton Nkliolsoii, for whom, without respect
to hia private character, I claim a record in toeae
columns as a joumaUst and author.
William Bktm.
Birmjagham.
THE SWAX-SOXG OP PARSON AVERT,
(4'^ S. vi* 493 ; vii. 20, 148/)
Your correspondent E, W, h wide of the
truth in bis aurinisea about Newbury. New-
beme in North Carolina is more properly New
Berne. **It derives its name from Bern, the
place of nativity of Christopher, Baron of Graaf-
leureidty who in 1709 emigrated to this state and
settled near thi^ place. The coloniet^ were Pala-
tines and Swiss. (Wheeler's Histori/ of 7^'orth
Carolimij p. 110.) Th« true Newbury of the
balliid is; a seaport on Massachusetts Bay, aud
derives its name* aa Cotton Mather saya'in his
Maipmiia, from the fact that the first minister of
the town, Kev. Thomas Parker, had resided in
Newbury, England. ** Prom thence removing
with several devout Christians out of Wiltshire
into New England, he was ordained their pastor
at a town (on his and their account) called New-
berry. Thomas Parker was the oalj son of liev.
Bobert Parker, a nonconform L-^t diviue uf note,
was admitted to Magdalen College, Oxford, but
went thence to Buhlin aod finally to Leyden. He
died unmarried, April 1677, aged about eighty-
two years.
As to Parson Avery, the Rev. Joseph Avery
was a worthv minister, who was coming to found
a church at ^larblehead^ another ^aport in Mas-
sachusetts Bay. Sailing from Newbury io a pin-
nace, Au^. 14, 1035, on this brief trip, having on
board his family and that of his cousin Anthony
Thatcher, the vessel was lost in a sudden storm,
and only Thatcher and his wife escaped. The
next island is called Thatcher's Woe, and the
rock Avery's Fall. The story is one known to
all who have examined our colonial annals ; and
Whittier has only followed the current authorities
in hi« version. "The title " swan-song '' is given
by Mather.
As we know nothing of Joseph Avery's ante-
cedents, anv information about him which K. W.
can furnish would be gladly received here.
Anthony Thatcher (Aveiys cousin) was brother
of Bev. Peter Thatcher, rector of St Edmund'i,
Salisbury, wboae son, He v. Thomas Thatcher, also
came to New England and founded a prosperous
and distinguished familv here. Thomas had ft
brother Paul living at Salisbury in 1676, asd «
brother John who had died there ab<Mit Wt
These American Thatchers used a ooat-of-onns ^
*■ a cross moline, on a chief three grmaahonpen.*^
There were several early colonista naawa A?
one being William Avery, a phyaiciaii, who i
at Dedham, Mais. Hia inimediate deaon
used as arms '^ a chevron between three betiBlii
oseat, two lion^s yambs supporting a bezant*"'
If K W\ has access to the parish register ti
Newbury, co. Berks, and can ^va a list of thi
names appearing therein about 1620-1635, 1 thsE
gladly try to identify any of our settlers here.
W. H. WmTMoait
Boston, U.aA.
The name of Averv, or Every, is found at Bodtoift
at an earlv date, and exists there at the prcsat
time. Whether or not the names are distmct^or
whether the ditference in the orthography is simfify
a variation in writing the same name, seem? • — ^
what uncertain. I incline to the former
The first notice of the name with which . .. ^
acquainted Is in 1310 j in which year Thotim
Aurey waa associated with the prior of Bcidmia
and others in a suit concerning five hundr^ torn
of land at Ilalgaver, near Bodmin (see my MkL ^
Trigg,, p. 127), The name, however, does an
occur in the accounts for rebuilding the piziA
church in 1470, to which work moat, if not all, d
the inhabitants contributed. Michaf»l Avery wm
mayor of Bodmin in 1544 {Hid. of Tngg, p. 3S01
and died in 1509 ; though the name does aol
occur among those of the burgesses in Farttimwt
or their manucaptors. The parish regiftteia ca^
menc© in 1659, and the name of Avery is amoo^f
the first found therein : —
l&GO. Johant the daughter of Thomas Avery, wat ^t^
tIzedMav*2iiLh.
16^1. Thomas, the son of Thomas Avery, wjm hk
15E>9. Walter Aveiye and Orige WiIUaiiis mm
Tied Sept. 6tb,
1569. Micbell Aveiye was baried Sept. 28th.
There are niany other entries of the name*
The name of Averv is found also in the i
of the borough of Liskeard, of which
Thomas Avery, a Koyalist, was appointed i
in 1659. He made some charitable
the town. The name is also found at
and Camelford, To the former place the
Mr. Avery, a merchant, was a grr* -' ^ — "'-iftcirl
improving the harbour and trade 1 1,
The present family of Every, ui :,.,„.„^, ia I
lieved to ba desoended from a family of the I
name formerly settled at St. Neot in "
respecting which entries occur in the
registers of that parish as aeon as they oc
John Every and Thomas Evety, reapecdfalyi hd
<» S. TIL Amu. I, Ti.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ihildren baptized between the years 1567 and
[J577. The present repreaentative of the familj of
Stery of Bodniin is the Rev. Nicliolaa T. Every,
iiokt of St. Kew, CO, ConiwiJL
I will not trespass further on Mr* Editor^s
dndne^, bat shall have pleasure in answering as
kr 8^ 1 can any inquiries which Hermkntrude
Imv desire to make direct John Macleak.
^ammeramith.
Mabbijlge of ExaLisH pRtNCESsES (4*** S. vii.
|03l) — I suppose the last instance of a princess
DBfTying a feritiah subject, wUhmd On* royal ammt^
the Princess Mary, sixth child of Henry VII.
md tfster of Henry VIII., who clandestinely
Carried Charles Brandon, Duke of Sufiblk, in
[HujrDy Abbey in 151 o.
The princeas, who was also queen -dowager of
Prance, vrtka re-married to the duke at Greenwich
n the ?ame year; and becoming^ by him the
raodmotber of the unfortunate Lady Jane Grey,
«part<$d this life June 25, 1533^ at her manor of
r«thorpe in SuHblk. W. H. S,
SCSTRIK!* OF ESTGLAHD {4^ S* Vli ^209.)—
JK\ id douhtleaa aware that a very curious list
ks about apecial ** industries " might easily
apiled, ana I could mi^ike a curious ctita-
even Ironi my own shelves. lib querv is
^' ineant» however, for general treatises.
emember many well worth reading in
Cahitmi Ct^lo/tesdia^ especially the three
pee on ** Alanufactures in Metal,'' the one on
|,'*&c. &c. A most interesting and valuable
iraa set after the visit of the British
aaflon Ij Xowcastle-on-Tyne, when a finiall
|v in3d, and afterwards expanded
1 1 V ork : —
M li U ir - f the three Nortbcprn
\\ I . ! ' , inf hiding the Reports
the British Asso-
nstrouf^, J, Low-
.... . y l^on. With Notes
|A vited writh Alapjt, Plnns, and Wood-
: LoDgTuana & Co, (2nd ©d.) 1864.
L' of the British Association at Bir-
i in 18(35 produced a similar volume under
RtMur '
ail ■
rilMBn
1^, «ml In duf trial Hist<>ry of
1 tnd Hardware Diatrict. A
'■V the Lfjf^il Industrie Com*
lion at Dirmin^h/im in 18+56.
LodJoq: Koberl ll^irdwkke.
A'^s ^re 80 much origin Ed and
iaiVitiiitJi M that it is to be regretted
tbv eXAuiplt-* lii^ nni been followed in other
taaftt (omI that ^ mtm^ of facts — often
^ialuilg' — cone industrial history of
md hare not been CLtUected and preserved,
Rase Statbmenis (4*** 8. vii. 232, 273.)—
All that I have y> eav to Cla.rrt*b strictures is,
that in my* edition of Gibbon, London, 1818, at
vol, i, ch. V. p, 168, the words stand as I have
quoted them. This is styled a "new edition/*
and WAS published only twenty-four yeaiB after
the author's death. So, after all, it is only edition
against edition ; and with no show of justice can
I be charged as " guilty of a rash statement."
Dear old Fuller's accuracy and honesty are too
well established to be shaken easily, and I hare
very grave doubts as to their having lailed him
here. My edition of the Holt/ and Propliam Stat^
is that of Tegg, London, 1841^ with notea by
James Nichols. The reference is not given in the
text, but in a foot note by the editor. In addition
to Til man Bredenbach, De Belh Li von. f he gives
Fits-Herbert, Of Policy and Rdiijion^ pt. i. ch. xiy,
Edmttnij Tew, M.A.
Why dobs a itewxt bobn Child cht ? (4*^* S.
vii. -11.) — Goldsmith says somewhere, " We
wept whan we came into the world, and every
moment 'tells us why/* I have tried to find it,
but without Buccesa. Some one will perhaps re-
collect the passage and give the reference. My
di.Happointment was however compensated by the
refreshing pleasure of looking at old Goldy again.
I would supplement the query by asking^ do our
young men ever read the old authors P My ob-
servation is that a penny paper is their chief
pabulum, colouring a meerschaum their amuse-
ment, with an occasional glance at the SatHrdatf
Eevi^w as a higher intellectual effort. CLAKRr.
King's Colleob, Nkw York (4** S. vL 623.) —
A. J. M. asks, what is known of the history and
fate of the Iung*a College at New York P It is
impossible to answer hitn in a letter; and I can
only say that the King's College still exists under
the name of Oohimbia College.
I have sent to you by moil the statutes and the
last UniverBity Catalogue which contaia the in-
formation for which he asks.
Beveblbt B. Belts,
LibrArian of Coiumbia Coll^.
New Yark.
Mrs. DowirryG (i'" S. tiI. 142.)— Mrs. Down-
ing (*' Christabel ") is not dead ; she is atill liTing,
with her husband, who baa been for many yeaw
one of the parliamentary corps of the Daily NeicSf
and was for the greater part of the time of the
sitting of the late council at Borne the Koman
correspondent of that paper. His brother, Mr.
MacCarthy Downing, M.P., sits in the House of
Commons as representative for the county of
Cork. Mr, and Mrs. Downin^r until lately lived
at Gumming Street, Pentonville, but I believe
their address now is Hildrop Crescent, Camden
Town. Mrs. Downing was born at Kenmare ia
the county of Kerry. I am \mft\j\^ U> ^x% ^floei
dates, nor ran I say whether her poeraa have
btsen ptihlished in a cuUocU^d form, W. 0'C\
P.S, I have learned that Mra. Dowmnff^s poems
were pitblUhcd about twenty yewB ago uy Alex-
ander Thorn of Dublin, under the tiU© of Scraps
from the MomU4iim by CbristabeUe,
Cin?pftTow = Et<TiirGiioiFX (4*'' S. viL 34.) —
This is no doubt tho place intended by the pasaag©
in Domeaday Book, but how it csame to bave two
names no one ba^ yet expbiioed. Leland calls
the founder of Tinteme " Do minus de Stroghill
alias Chepstow." Castell Trojjrsry, «orae ten milea
from Cbcpstow, is sometimes called Strigoil Castle,
but I do not know on what autbority, altbough I
believo within the honour of Strigoif.
As to the derivation of this name, without at^
tempting ono myself, I can only refer C. E, W. to
an explanation, which 1 Jear is sufficiently far-
fetched, given by Lelaiid ilim. ix. 101), quoting an
annotation on the poet Xecham (abbot of Ciren-
oester, 1215-25): ** Strata Julia, cujus pontem
construxit Julius (Cn. J, Agricola intendea) quod
Tulffo Stri^olium dicitur/* In this passage a
bridge at Chop.*tow is of course meant ; however,
this appellallun of the Komau road which un-
doubtedly crossed tbe Wye here is as old as
Kecbam, for he mentions it more than once, but
it is now grencrally confined to the way from Bath
to St, David^s, in con^efjuence of the statement of
the dubious Richard of Cirencester (xi Iter. '* per
viam Juliam/'j* A, S. Ellu,
BromptaD.
BEs<?EXDAX're OP JsEEitr Tatuir (4^ S. vii.
14,3.) — There can be no persons living of the name
of Taylor who are Htictd defendants of Bishop
Taylor, as that eminent divine left no male issue.
One of the bishop's daughters and co-heiresaes,
Mary J married Dr, Francis Marsh, subsequently
Arcli bishop of Dublin. The present Francis
Marsh, Esq., of f^pring-raount, Queen's County, a
descendant from that marriage, might be able to
g>© J. some further particulara as to the Taylor
mily. Mr. Marsh poaaesaea, as an heirloom in
his family^ a very good portrait of his ancestor
Jeremy Taylor. ' C, S,K,
St. Peter's Si|uaTc, Hftmmersmitht W.
Hair cRowmo after Death (4** S. vi* 624 ;
vjL 06, 8;3, 1.30, 222.)— When the remains of
Napoleon the Great were about to be transferred
from St Helena to France, accord inf,' to his wish,
to repose on the borders of the Seine, on the
▼arioua coffins being opened, to the astonishment
♦ In my not43 on the "liohwn Famil}'" (4*»» S. vi. 45&),
the names of the noble twiaa, KUwtrd'and WOliara, were
•oddcn tally omitted. They wore born nt Caldecott Castle,
uear Cbepstow, about 1313. Ttii-^ fact, ultbim^rb the only
one to prove the wcujiJition of this very interu^ttog ruin,
UupHioticeil in tbti excellent account of the ca-stle by Mr.
O. Morgau, M.P,, and Mr. VVaketmuu-^A. S. E,
I
of all bystanders, among whom were his old com*
panions in captivity, his corpse appcarvd ta t
wondt*rfuI state of presenration, and the beard
and nails were found to have grown atW he had
been inhu mated. P. A. *~
^*The old Gentleman atTurrey" mriU- ;i
spectful bow to the young gentleman v
**N. & Q." with remarks on the a:
subject on February 11 last. The lady, the growth
of whose beautiful hair after death the oQ g«»-
tie man had the pleasure of seeing^, was the s^ctjtid
wife of one of the Lords Mordaunt of Turr^f,
who lived in the reign of Queen Elizahelh. %iii
w*w buried in a grave, the bottom, sides, and \£i^
of which were composed of thin stones taken it^m
a neighbourio^; quarry, and which had been taoW
roughly with the hammer on their upper an ' '
surfaeoii. The lady probably had lonjf hair
her life, a^ the yomig gentleman mtefi-suuui;
suggests. The upper part of the coffin around w ]
heivd was filled with*hair, which had prees^ *' ''^^^
into all the irrefuhtrities and LndentaUoii
stones, taking their form almost as compk:,. -
pla^iter of Paris would do that of the mould W» I
whieh it was poimjd ; or, as may be often t/m^ 1
the roots of plants that of the fiower-pcts in whkfc
they have been long growing. The hair had sli9 *
insinuated itself through the iDtereticea betraa
the stones, and was found outside the oo^ ii
rather long apind dlaments.
Thx Old Ghktlemai.
Tarvey Abbey, Bedford,
Moor Park (i^^ S. m 200.)— The M*>^r Vm
described by Sir William Temple is in
between Faro ham and Waverly, and not i
fordshire. He removed to that place when h» yik
Sheen. V. '
[If niir correspondent refers to SirWjl
stftt4imeiit {lyorktj iiL 327-8, e«!. 1770), h
our quLTLit was correct. ** Tf,
l,£ardeu I ever wiw, cither at h*
Moor Paxkjin Uertfordshirv, wh
YGUTI ago. .*•.... It y(^ tli&ti« bv
Ikdford," &c^ are thi words of i5ir Wil
atid hla description of it is snch as tniy \<^ xi cxawj
wish for furthur particaUrs. — Ed, •* K. &* Q.**}
Clan I^Ic Airnr (A^^ S. \il 189.)— The
ants of King Alpin are supposed to have
the clan Alpiu. According to Douglas's
ngCf the ancient seat of the claa waa ~
nage. At present the dan Alpin is repi
b? ita branehea, the Macgregora, Mackiun*
The Macalpins of the present day (by no
A numerous sept) I believe to be descended
Macgregors, and to have assumed the name
that of Mocgregor was proscribed.
Who, knowing the history of the HigUiw
and its clans, and of the clan Oregor is particiii^
with all its forfeitures and pro9criptioas« worn ^
expect to find in tha charter-room c!f the ^*
4t* s. vu. afril 1, 710 NOTES AND QUERIES.
291
oliief a aeneft of UUe-deeds and other mimimenta
6- T, the de8cent of the various chiefs from
K i iaciklpinP Mao.
In the notes appended to Claft^Aljnn$ Vow (bj
Alex, Boawell) reterence ia made to the genealogy
of this mystical race, which may be of aervice to
Ejtquikeb (note 1) : —
'^Tbe genealogist of the Micalpios and Mac^pgors
tdla hj in the Baronage of Srollawi that, in common with
tlte otber deioimdaots of King Alpin» tliey conaidered
ftmastlvm as one people ; and Chat Cho^-e who hnd pre-
Tioutij aimnied the name of M&ca]pin, doubtless to
^pittate the aid of the more numeroui Macgregors,
adapted tbdr name, and were thua united to that claii»
and all ilistinction loafc."
There are several copious notes given in the
fame work relative to thia clan. W\ Wutxebs,
Walthdm Abbey.
BABtBs' Bells (4«* a vi'475j viL 21, 133,
'^Hcr infant grandame's whittle n«xt it grew,
The bella she jiogled, aod the whittle blew."
Map6 of the Lock, canto V. 93.
W, J. Bernhaed Smith*
Temple^
Letter from Oliver Cbomwell, 1655 (i^ S*
199.) — Vour correspondent Elan mentions
I having a copy of a letter that Cromwell pro-
^^ led sending to the^Emperour Suit an Mahomet,'*
' Mii of which the death of Sir Thomas Ben dish
rented the delivery. Would Elan object to
publication of the letter? for, though the
^* [ never received it, one would like to kjjow
NoU*a viewa regarding the Turkey of the
W. H.
*Tki Ckazt Tales " {4^^ S. vil, 154.)-TIii3
was moat certainly written by John Hall
Sanson, as stated by the Editor of ** N. & Q/'
}»ra). Some account of the author may bo
in rioUand^a Iheis of Yorkshire. About
rty years ago an edition of the Tales was pub-
in London by some obscure bookseller,
name has escaped me. On the title-page
' by liichard Bnnsley Sheridan '^ — an evi-
§ti mi*»HT(t?. The tales are not without merit
t many of them are very licentioiis ;
1 worse than anything to m met with
^jn^im^^ tram whom many of the stories are
Uted, I have seen an etMtiou (without any
on the title) printed at the close of the
l^crntury. The publisher was one Griffita or
N.
TFTOOHiPHY (4»*'S. vii. 155.) — The paper
• B h interesting and instructive,
k^'t back black horse. I have learnt that
^Jm ooratched."
id liiuti«diotely three reirs. Inf., one Cav.^
Biktterlea, to relief of N,"
And Gcmdudea his communication with an artifice^
instead of thus correctly involving (3) : —
28,29,32,20—42,28,23-^20,26,21,21,23,32.
which deciphered, ia — -
** Find the deceit"
Aa J* R. C. is evidently an adept in crypto-
graphy, I shall be pleased' if he can explain the
involution and evolution of thia cryptogram —
00 182107 101 7081 7(K!0721
2r>O,s23lH210Olti25141400
1817121007 —
which I have constructed on the basis : —
A B CD E F G H 1 J K L M NO
1 2 3 4 5 0 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
p Q M s T u V ir X r z
IG 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 20
as he will thereby testify to the value and utility
of experts m cryptic evolution.
The cr^-ptologue is —
** Tho Spirit searcheth all things."
(See 1 Cor. ii, 10.)
J. Bealk,
Bacon's Qfeeji's CotTKSiasHTp (4*^ S. vii, 188.)
The first Queen's Counsel was Francis, afterwards
Lord Bacon, on whom the dignity was conferred
honoris cmtm in 1690 — he receiving neither fee
nor patent. Shortlv after the accession of James L
he was appointed King's Counsel — this time with
a salary of forty pounds and a premium of aijcty.
It is, doubtless, upon the former distinction that
his biographer enlarges in the passage quoted by
your correepondent ; for at the time of its being
conferred Bacon was only in his thirtieth year,
an age at which a barrister was not considered to
have finished his legal education. According tci
tbe jurists of the time, barristers were styled
apprentices {appretiitdi ad lei/em)j and not thought
qualified to execute the full office of an advocate
until of sixteen years* standing, when thoy might
be called to the degree of serjeant, and thus be*
came servientes ad kffenu Bacon could scarcely
have been selected on account of hia eminence^
for we know that at this time he was quarrelling
with hia profession ; and that in 1504, when he
was refused the Solicitorahip, the que«n expressed
a very poor opinion of his ability, remarking that
he waa a showy lawyer rather than a profound
one. I may here observe, that the Encydojiadia
Brilannica falls into the popular error of saving
that the present Queen's Counsel receive a salary.
JULIAK SflARMAKt
PJGEON Post (4"' S. vii. 185.)— Other birda
be^des pigeons have been used aa letter-carriers,
aa witness the following from Julian 'a Higtortf of
Animals, book I. chap. vii. I spare ^o\a c^
the Greek^ and give Addiaou^^ u«^£is£kik\2yc:ni\~-*
292
NOTES AND QUERIES.
" In EgTpt, neAr tbe lake'Moeris, where stands the city
of Crwodiles, they show the tomb of a jar (tofm^vf)^ of
which the nativet reUto thi« history : — T* hey tell you
that this jay was brought op by one of their kings,
ea]le<d 3farrA«^ ivhoao letters it carried wherever he
plciiAert to send them; thatirhen they pjave it directions,
It reailily underj-tood which way to ttim ita flighty what
places it t^houM paaa overt and where to stop. When it
waa dead, Marrhei honoured it with an epitaph and
tomb."
Robert Fitzharhbts, or Harteis (4^^ S. vi.
414, 517; vii. 222.) — Nimrod must surely be
joMng when be asks wbetber nil tbe persons
beftring tbe Cbriatian name of Hervey in the
Index of Duchesne's Norman Chrontckrs Are " of
the same or difierent families." He mij?ht as well
ask the same question about all tbe Boberts or
Willi am 8 in tbe same Index, The Dukes of Or-
lean8f with whom be seems ao familiar, are com-
pletely unknoi^Ti to the learned authors of AH
de VeriJUr les Dat€8^ who are reputed to be tbe
beat authority on such a subject. On the other
bandf liobert Fitz Emeis, bis ancestry and de-
Bcendjmts, are perfectly well known to all wbo
are acquainted with Ang^lo- Norman genealo^as,
and tbero is ample proof tbat neither bis father
nor grandfather were the sons of any Duke of
Orleans or of Burgundy. It would seem tbat nil
NiMBoD^s speculations* have arisen out of a ludi-
crous raiaprint of Fitx-HertJeis for Fitz-Hemeis.
The Ilerveys of Ickworth have long enjoyed too
higrb a rank and position in Knj^land to require a
fictitious genealogy, to which tbey have no his-
torical pretensions. Tewars.
" Et FACERE ScRrDETHJA, ETC." (4*** S. vii. 209.)
B. will find these words in the younger Pliny's
celebrated letter to Tacitus describinyr the death
of his uncle, tbe elder Pliny. After adverting to
the eternal fame to which the writings of Tacitus
were destined, the writer proceeds thus : —
*♦ Equidem beato3 puto« quibau deomm niunero datum
est, aut facere scribenda, aut scribere legenda : beatiisi*
raoa vero, quibus utrumqne: horwm in munew avunculm
mm» et sms iibrU et In u eriC*
The italics are mine* J. E,
Glasgow*
The subjoined epigram (the 46th) by Owen is
perhaps the passage to which B. refers : —
*'AdP, SidnBiwrn.
'* Qui scribenda facit, scribitve legends, beatua
Ille ; beatior es tu, qttod utmuiqae fads.
Dignfl legi scribts, fatris et digmssima scribi i
Scrip la probanl doctum te tiia, facta pro bain.*'
P. J. F. G^OTTrLLON*
The Print of Guidons "Aurora'* (!•* S. ii.
3D1 ; 2«^ S. iii. 296; 4^^ S, vii. 13, 113, 221.)--!
regret to inform your correspondent S. R. that
Mr, Dawsox Turner of Yarmouth was so far
from being able to mention the author relerred to^
or where the lines are to be found^ that he
the veiy same question, and adds:^ —
*^l should have snpposed (thii pattoge) might htv«
been written for the occasion, had 1 not bef» told, Qpcoi
authority in which I put contideni^, that it is to be fottadia
some clasaic author. If so, the lines may possibly hare
given rise to the painting, and not the painting to tbe
lines."
In reply to tbe second query, " Would be fur-
ther oblige me by informing me who Alexander
/Ktolus was and when he lived ? '' I have tht
pleasure to furnish bim with the following ex-
tracts &om in J unpublished catalogue : —
" vile^aader .^tolas, a Greek poet and ;ri aiiimarlan, nift
lived in the rci|^ of Ptoletii.'eaa I'l .— V*eFtQt«lf
PUnetia, V. Galeus ad Partheniu in, Adilmdli
149-^1 (qnoted in * N. <k QJ '2^*^ >>. ui. . -n*/, ChaleiiliM
in TimEeum (p. 307 in Hippolyto), ElegantlaiiiBail
carmen de Antheo ex ejus ApoUiae^ 7. PaitlMmBi
c. xiv,"
" Pnrtheniaa (here referred to), a native of Klaca, Uwd
in the reign of Angnstusi. — Erotica, v. Gale, iUfkng
Fmticu, pp. 343-402. The eighth of these lovo tt^rki b
translated in Toland'a History **fthe Druids pp, li^-31.
Also the Btory of Hercules. *On pent con^utter po«r
pluJi do de'talbi le curicux article que Fabrictu* a eda-
aacnii k ce riofete, dan^ le tome ii. de «a Bibtioth* Grae»
pp. eTii-79. — Bio^r. Univen, See abo Bayk.
BlBLIOTHECAB* CltETIUJt»
'' One Swallow does not kakr a STnfi»im**
(3"' S, V. 53, 63.)— Mr- Heath's 'v ^
ulready been answered from Dr. Forst. .
the Seaaofus. Perhaps the following extiiict Horn
the same author's Mesearche^ abotd ^tttntu^Amt
PhiBnomcna^ p. 155, will also be accept ' '
** The occaaional early appearanoe of a >
haa been proverbially noticed at not b "-
iummer. (Xote.) It is remarkable tl uiitnai
have A Binjilar proverb relating to the :^L\idi^
XsA ap[tearance before its tisnal time. IJuc Grieki haft
Mio x*^^^^^ ^*P ou iroul; thu LutinR, *Una hiraniloiMt
focit ver ' ; the Freni U, ' Une hirondleUe no fail ptt ll
printcinpa' ; the (iurmitn,% '^Eine Schwalbe mucht kcuM
Frilling" ; the Duti^h, * F^n swaluw maakt ^i-M zr^mtt*;
the Swedes, * En svata gor Ingen eomtnar * ;
* Una golondrina no hace verono'; the I;
rondina non fa prima vera ' ; and the Eoglirih, ■ uu^ ^"toi-
low doth not mAkc a summer/ '*
BlBLroniBCAR. CttETniM*
** Owl I THAT LOVEst THE BODING Sky '* (4** &
711. 190.)^-! think this poem will be f ' ''"^
OetUk'tnan's Mnfjazine between IS.'iO '
it was inserted thei*e by its author, inv iiv> t
Mitford, tbe editor. I have no index, thcirfiMi
cannot state in which volume, 0, A
EpTTArii ON Sir Tnos. Stanley (!•* S,
IDO.) — The lines referred to are wi*;
still legible on the monument, Tb+''
by Mr. Walter White in All I!
p. 14 (I860), among a few partii
the singularly interesting old church at i >n^.
m
tf^avii. APBiLi/710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
SM
"TffB Srw iriTBR SETS on the British Do-
MiyiftFS"* <4"* S. Tii, 210.) — A similar idea occurs
in TibuUtis, liber ii. elegia v. : —
•* Roma, tuuTn nomen terris fiitale r^j^eodig,
Qulk sua dc cctlo proipidt arvm Ceres ;
QuJl^que patent ortu<r« et qu& tiuitftntibiid undis
Soiu imhetant€s nbltiii nniQift oquos."
Thomas E. WmifTKOTOK.
Lady M. Wortlkt MoNTAOu'ft Li:ttees (4'*^
S. Tii. 124.) — Id Mr, HQnter*8 yaluftble collection
of MSB. 24,48.'?, British Mus«ora, may be found
much of an inttfreBting kind relative to thia lady's
literary productions. Mr. Hunter introduces the
subject of these letters by stating that^ —
"Th^ in* mber of the family to whom I was indebted
tl notices of thia fatly ir»*f rted to the i^ccond
(h Yorfuhire^ was Ladv I^uba Stttart, her
r, an unmarried dnuijfiter of the Countess
V were obtained for roe by the kind inter-
""rfpTid the RcT. Dr, Corbet of Wortley, to
(-ed in the flammer of 1K26, a pending-
! at the house of Mr. Eimington at
W. WlBTBEa,
Waltham Abhey.
Majtx BwHors (4»'» S, vii, 184.)— The following
U^t *' ^- i ' q of Sodor and Man \^ given by Dodd
in ' Hisiory^ toI. i* 1 copy it aa I find
^1 i-.Tn.v Tso to those TV ho are in*
names ami aider of
'Amfihthxl us
, 300
IiAnni.
Gmiantia .
« 100
MauriUus.
Ctmitiflicu*.
Mark
. 1300
Bomulu««
AlftD.
Machutus ,
. fm
GiUwrt.
Cr^nanu*.
Bernard.
MtrhaeL
Ttif.mrt^.
^'^imuiidua
. 1100
^\'
^eL
Jofni.
J,
j_
IflkhAcl XL
l:
ihy.
Mrhola« de Meaax 1200
.1
. 1400
te^nald.
T. ■ ..!
;an»
J-
Kichrua.
Ghonn.
Iluam Hlaukleach 1500
I^umieat.
Thomtis Stanley.
&fa«nL
Henrv Man,
'*
F. C. 11.
** llnABioN'e SBKVAirr, thb Sage Crow "
(i^ a vii. U, 112, 178/)— At the last of the
•bore refHroncGs A. G* wishes to learn j^omething'
^111 1 Ills cdil volume, The Lives of tlte Saints,
' describes. On referring to Tr^^or tic
-. prTf J. G, T. Graesse (I)re8de,18f3:3), iv.
' this book noticed as occurring
[1841, art 18361]. The fol-
iiJTt, ! by Bohn r —
" ; "f the Sn!nt4^ ^ther«d out of
■ " T Rib.ideneyni, D,
Authors, with ati
m1. Doaay.1623."
Ii '^ in 2 vole. am. 8vo [<^u.
, -i . , . - "itly bound, price 3/^ 10^. '
K.
In our UniveTsity library (Cambridge) we have
an editir^n of this work in small 4to, 1628, jpp,
(after thti Preface and Table) 947 + 18L The
Approhatio^ at the end of " An Appendix of the
Saints lately cflnonized/'coneepotida exactly with
that giv(*n by A, G., with these exceptions : for
Approl}ator read Approhatio ; for hngiu^ read /in-
fffm^ and for Andomarop. read Audcmarop, [St
Omerj. These were doubtless errors of transcrip-
tion. The extract of the famous miracle of tbo
crow, j^iven by A. G., occurs in this edition tmder
January 15, in " The Life of 8, Paule the tirst i
Fcnnite," at the bottom of page 25. Aa Bohn*a j
title is an abbreviated one, A* G, will perhaps
liho to have the whole title of this later edition,
which I here transcribe ; —
** Tlie Live? of Rjiint«, Writti^n in th<» 8pnni*li bv the
R, F. Alfun ^.'■■'. ^- : ■ ■ ■ . "' ' ' ,'nt of
Italian jtit li the
Spanish. ^\ i uther
Saiatft of the vniucrM&li Church. Extracted out of F.
Eibadencirft, Svrivs, and other approued authors. This
last edition » newly perused, ctjrrectcd, aiiiplei!ed, &
Bdomed with many faire Brasen imapea * representing
the principal Saint.s of eucry month. Ah^o a table of tho
au^^ented Saiiiti> added in the be^nninicr of the Dook,
and in tht? end tbo llne^ of S. PATRJCIUE, S. Jiaip&rr, ik
S.Ci.L^ .. ■. r^ ■' .:A,
** H iitir /i/5* madmen, tmd thtiw
end uuir r theif are ctmntrti ttfnQH^ the
chifdftn vf Ginit uml t/teir lui is among the Sainti/, Sap.
5. 4.
** With permission for W. H.
E. V.
'* Still glides titts ^k^tlb Strkamlet oit "
(4^ S. vi, Q,} — The author of th^ piece beginning
thus la Hood* See p. lO-'i of Ptn'mt*, tbirteentfi
edition, 1801. P. J. F. Gajstilloij.
Smoitinq Illegal (4*** S. vi. 384, 485; vu.
198.) — The citation (p. 485) is correctly given
from the Colotuai Jiecords of Connecticut, edited
by J. Hammond Tnimball, l5!sq., vol, i p, 658. In
the same volume the original Act i^ given at
p. 15tl, and its terms are still more quaint. It
should be added that thia Act is connected with
one aimed at intemperance in drinking wine and
strong waters. W. H. Whitmobb.
Boaton, U. S. A.
Smokers (at any rate in England) are tmder
the impression that they already pay a very heavy
tax on their luxury, in the form of the large duty
on tobacco, and would not see any justice in the
additional tax advocated by N., nor any analogy
* Our copy is without, and appears never to have had,
the bras^n imapet. The tJtle-p&e« ia adorned with me-
dallion bu.*ts of the Saviour ana the Virgin, rf*-<i-c»«,
with the Holy Spirit deacending as a duve from above,
and a chtsnib'g hrnd tx^low, with r>alm bran.;heA, Ac,
Thero are thr *''>nes to the Livea of SS. Patrick,
Brid^t, anti ' '^d respectively Ao^, 19 ^CV«3u V"* ,
and Aug. 16» hi. .^ ^ w>.
t4»»S.TIL AH«ii.l.*n
1
between such a tax and those on guns and armo-
rial beariflgs. N — it-
Adorning Wells at LicitFTiTLD (4** 8. vii.
1070 — ^The extract from A Sf^rt AccowUj ^,^
1831, is merely a reproduction of a note to a^-
*'Hi*tory of the City and Cathedral of Lichfield,
chJeflv compiled from Ancient Authors, &c, by Joho
J«cksbn, Jan., 1805.'^
The author was the son of a hookseller in I^ich-
field, and had resided in that city all his life ; he
therefore speaka with the authority of an eye-
witness. He says, p. 25, note (he has been quot-
ing Dr. Plot) :—
** This ancient custom of Adorning wells, &c., and all
places &t the boundariefl of the different parisheis is to
thi« day observed in Lichfield and many neiKhbouHnff
towns;* where the clergy man of erneb partJsh, attended by
the ehnrcbwnrdiina and other office™, and a numeroua
concourse of children, with fg^wvax boughs in their hoodsi
reAda the gospel for the day."
The interesUnQ' fact is the rending the gospel
at the wells. This was a custom of extreme an-
tiquity. Pleasant old Aubrey^ in his MS. ** Re-
maiiios of Geutilisnie/- says : —
** In processions Lhey used to r^ade a Rospell at th«
springs to bles*c them : which hath been dbcon tinned nt
hunny ^ell in BerkHhire but since IGHH." — Brajid'a
Fopuhir A rttiquitiea ; Ellis, IVtUt tmd Fvuntain§*
Can any inhabitant of Lichfield remember such
ft custom ? J. IIenry Skqkthouse.
Edgbastoo.
Tub Plant Lingua Anseris (4*" S. viL 162.)
I8 not the Lingm anseriSf inquired for by MR*
Britten, FoteiiUUa aneerina f the leaves of which
are more or less like fern leaves, though it would
require a great stretch of the imagination to see
any resemblance in its '* rote " to a '* goos byH"
Dis-spntTT (4*** S, vii. 180.) — Mr. Tew is mis-
taken in thinkiog that Fuller meant to use this
word in the sen^ie of '* to inftise spirit." iJis^spCrit
always means to pour or take spirit out ; and so
in the passage quoted. Fuller, with hitf wonted
quaint and pregnant use of words, says, *' <fw-
miriU the book into the scholar " — i. e. pours out
tne spirit of the book into the scholar.
J. H. I, Oaklbt.
The Priory, CroydoD.
War Medals (4*»» S. vii. 13, 13L)— WiU
J. W. F. transmit to posterity in the lasting pages
of "X. & Q/' the names, regiments, and battles
of the nx men who received the Peninsular medal
with fifteen clasps ? C* P. I.
CoNVTviAL SoN0S (4*" S. vil. 151.)— The fol-
lowing is, I conceive, the song desired by Mr.
Jajlbs Gilbrrt, It is in Mr. J, R. Pla"nch6*8
English verdon of Wilhelm Aug. Wohlbruck^s
German opera, Der Vammjr^ which was produced
Bt the EDglkh Opera Housei Lyceum, oa Aur
p0t 25, 1820. The music, by Heiimch Micnclmsr,
IS for four male voices : —
*'In Aatumn we should dnnk, boy%
You need not sure be told,
Tia then the overladen vine
ICf purple burden sheds in wine.
In .'Vnttimn we ihould drink, boys i
In Wioter we should drink, boyi|
For Winter it is cold,
And better than capute or bood
The bright ToklLycr wnrm^ the blo<KL
Id Winter we should drink, boys I
la Summer we shouM fHnk, Imys,
For Sommer's hi -.
The very earth is i
And thirsty surely men^
In Summer we should drink, boys I
In Spring time we should drink, boya I
It don't much matter why ;
But having drunk for seasons three,
To blink the fourth would folly be.
So round the year we'll drink, boys I **
Vese: Fee3E: Fea2E(4'*' S. tu 195,421,5
Tii 109, 224.)— r thank A. L. for his noi« i
this word. Hid reference to the use of it in ]
is valuable. I must stiite, however, that J
terpretation of the passage Quoted by
Si^na ante' Judicium (PhilologiCHl Society) ]
doubtedly wrong. Let him refer to the who
poem either in the Philological Society's Wj
or in AUenglische Sprachprobfn^ Sec. (when
again printed) ; and he will see tliat the i _
of the word fentii is ** fiends '* and nothing I
Within a few lines we get —
" al N fendis Nt be)> in bel
hou N fentis sul men bar mone."
A, L. requotes my quotatioa with some ii
rectness. Valuable snace of "N, & Q/*
scarcely afford a third repetition. My lo*t J
lines mean decidedly and unmistakeal**
all the fiends shall thereof be terror-
be i/esidi?) into hell." The next lines
"for, will they, nill thev, they shall
that into the pine of hell** To satisfy
more of the meaning of ftntis in my foimi
tation, I refer him to a parallel passage In 1.
Efiglish Metrical Homihet^ which runs thus i*-^
** Than sal the raynbow dec«nd
In hew of gall it sal be kend.
And wit the windos it sal mel,
Drif them doun in to the hel.
And dunt th^ dt^wela thidtr in.
In thair bal al for to brin." — (P. xiL)
A mistake of this kind demands correcUoil
once ; but on the meaning of vcse, /r»ae, ^
I still hope that A. L. wul give us furtlt^r
formation. JoflJir A^i
Rustington,near Llttleharapton,
Medical Order of St. Jomr (4*^ SL fit, i_
Th9 Congregation of St John of God u w)l\
if^i^
»S^ VU. AiHii, 1, 71-2
NOTES AND QUERIES.
29a
medical order, nor in any way connected with
the prufeasion of medicine, lu founder was St.
JoLn, who was bora in Portugal in 1495. He
never intended to found a religioua order^ but
bei^ by hiring a house, in which he himaelf at-
tended the sick, begpfing alma for their support.
After his death in 1550, some of his brethren
went to Rome, and their congregation was ap-
proved and erected into a regular order of charity
Sy St. Piu3 v., who gave them a habit of a dark
mk colour. The brethren of tbid order do not
beootna clerics, nor do they pursue any course of
Btudiea, bat wholly devote' themselves to the care
of the poor and the sick. A very full account of
tbi^ ordfr may be seen in the Ahhitdungen der
vorztti/lirkstai GetHlkhen-Ordm of C. F. Schwan ;
and a very good account in the work of Bonanni,
Ortlinum Heliffwsorum in Ecciesta militanti Cata-
hnf%tA : a» also in the copious ** Life of St John of
God." in Alban Butler s Live^ of JSaifUSj March 8.
' R c. a
«The Broitei^ Brtboe'' (4**' S. vii* 100.)—
Whatever claim the Celestifth may have regarding
the invention of the so-called ** Chinese shades ''
or ** fihftdowa/* I am inclined to credit the Euro-
peans, and especially the Elngliah, with tlie honour
of perj»etuating this kind of exhibition for many
y«am, perhaps centuries,
1 find in William Hone's Ancient Mt/«t€OH€S
Ikmrib^f London, 1823, that—
••On a Twdfih-night, in 1818, a man making the
IP' f * GaUftotee show,' wns called in to
txkil *?^ for Ihe amiweiMent of my joung
falki jiinioniw Most unexpectedly, be
*r&fft|Hi*tHti M inoUoit uf the Prodigftl Son ;* by dancing hh
trmsparencies between the mng^nifying gfiut^ aiid the
candle of n - ■ '-nboni, the coJoured fiijarea, greAtly
nUrgird, y 'I on a «he«t spread agamai the
irtUofiidn tn. The Prodigal Son was reprc-
wiUd cflfou^rhg viUh hiB comnaniona at the Swan Irin,
fibiiford ; while I he lantllady in the bar, on every fresh
cidl, Wii seen to score double. There was also Xoah'a
Afk, with " Pull Devil, Pull Baker," or the ju9t jnd^i^cnt
Upon a baker who sold sliort of weight, ond woa carried
to b«ll ifi bis own basket.
••The manager informed me that his show had been
th« itme during manv years, and in truth was in-
*»The Broken Bridge'* (pp, 230, 231) 1 con-
I to be the remnant of a mediaeval motion, or
navstf^ry, similar to the one juat quoted,
^ 1 in the courae of time additions may have
. ■ mjide, obscuring the traces of its original
fci Its universality in Europe can be explained
J the fact that myeteriea, both by actora and
Ipp*l8, were performed in many parts of Bng-
teo, France, and Italy, in aome "cases with dia-
UptDcie*, in others correctly. And here I may
MDtSon that I have also attended, when a boy,
Aadow exhibition of the ** Broken Bridge/* on
>f«ral occBisionft, and the tune waa without ex-
ftioa the ^' Mftiaeilkifie/' Mj visits were not
conEned to one showman. The idea of adopting
the ** ahades *^ may not have been coeval with the
invention of **The Broken Bridge:" the latter
having probably been a punpet play long before
the introduction of the " ahadea" (^juery, by whom
and when P and have the Chmeae a shadow
exhibition P) J. J.j Juif,
ClerkenwelL
Charlks II. AT Malpas (4'*' S. V. 42L)— I
never heard the story Mr. Kindt mentions be-
fore ; but it ia a fact that there are two rectors at
Malpas, who divide the pariah between them, and
occupy the church and pulpit on alternate Sun^
days. In 1837 (not 1857) the names of the two
rectors Twho were al&o brothers-in-law) were
George lyrwhitt Drake and John A, Partridge*
The fonner died in 1840 ; and the latter, in the
same year, moved to Baconsthorpei co. Norfolk,
where he died in 1861. W, T. T. D.
Kmm OF Scotland {4''' S. ti. 233.)— The only
authority at all to be trusted as to the Celtic
kings 01 Scotland is the learned Br, Heevea of
Armagh. If J. A, Pir. consults hia Zt/e of St,
Colomha he will Mnd an appendix: giving all that
he requires. Belham's Talks on this subject are
uaelesd, aa they represent & atato of knowledge
which waa only dense ignorance of Celtic archm-
ology. ' Maowus,
Beifaat*
mtilrcUitiietluir.
NOTES OH BOOKS* ETC.
Thte Work* of Aierander Pifpe. iV'fM' Edition, including
$t!t>er£il Hundred UnpuUUhed Letter », Collected in part
by the late Kipht lion. John Wilson Croker, mth Iw-
tniduction and Nnte» % the Rev. Whitwell £lwiii.
Vot, Vf. Corregpondence. Vol. /. With Portraitt and
other ItlHstrutioHM. (Murray,)
A hundrtid nnd forty years ago Pop« was busy plotting
and contriviDg how btait to awaken an interest in hia
Correapondcncc, antl bow to prepare that C^rreapondence
for the pttblic in such a form as ahoald best secure for it
that admiration, of which no poet waa ever more greedy.
Mr. Elwin has in the introduction to the first volume of
the present edition laid open all the tricks, eoDtnvaaoea,
and» it niuj»t bo add^d, meanneaacs of wbich Pope was
G^ullty for the purpose of awakening an interest in thoio
letters which he profeeaed to giv« to the preaa only in
self-defence, but which he doubtless published in order to
gratify hb personal vantly. There may possibly have
been another mo five. Was he conscioua of hia defects as
a letter- writer ; and being so, waa he anxious to prevent
the publication of his letters aa originally written, with
all their want of ease, eame«tn^!a^ and tmcerity ? Did
he seek to forestall bj the publication of his oortespond-
ence^ CArefuUy cooked up and prepared for hia Admima,
any chance of the publication of his correspondencet such
as' it really waa ? Be that as it may, I*ope*s letters in
their genuine form are now before the world for the first
time ; nnd however mueh the student of Pope m^y be
pleased to have tbem, the admirers of Pope wtU fed
that their publication does not tend to increase his repu-
Ution as a writer, while unfortunately it goes far to
lower him hi oar estimation as a ooan. In tha UU».
I
I
J
WB
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*ks.viI.Ariitl/ri.^
Tesp«ot many of them are positiTdy imSofbl to read.
While their iitt^nuy m«iits are well and eondselr flnmmed
up in Mr. El win in one brii^ sentence ; **Tbe ungarbled
letters can now lye ooanted by himdredsw but tbey are
little less barren than the ^Arbled^ and wca Dut arti-
fioiaL, are fooblor m com post tiou."
La Parodie ches Us Grea^ ekez Us Romain*^ et chez let
Moderm*. Pur Octave Delepiarre. (Trllbner & Co.)
If what M. Delepitrre tvrites reflect/! what he raids it is
dear that he ffrnipathijes with Charles Lamb in hb
fondneat for »* books with sonifl dtvertiiig twi*t in them.
His versatile and ready pcii haa already given us a most
amuAinj; little volume on Macarcnuc Literature ; which
waa folio «'cd by hla HUtoim de$ Fou* liuhairts^ and
more recently by hia Revne anatytimte det Ouvraget
deritt en Cmtoml Those who have threaded these by*
pathf of literature under the guidance of our author,
fltopping every now aed then while he ealh attention
to aoma happy passage or striking example, wOl readily
nnderstaDd what a j^eaaant hunr or two's reading they
will find io the present Essay on Parodv— a species of
compoeitioQ which, to our mind, is thus happily defined
bv 1^ Pfere de Monies pin, aa we leam from M. Dele-
pierre: "La Parudie, tilk aintk de la Satire, eat aoaai
ancionnc qoe la Poci^ie niGme. II est de reesence de la
Parodie de mibstituer toujours un oooveau sm'et & celui
fiu'on parodie; «ux «ujeto s^rieux, des snjots liSgers et
badiiif, en employrint autant que poeeible lee ezpnsaaiona
de rautenr parodie."
TnK RoTAL Albkkt Hall was opened on Wednesday
by tier Alajet^ty in the presence of all the members of the
lioyal Family,' the great officers of state, and iomc eight
thousand spectators, among whom were many of the most
dIaCinguished for rank and attainments. The whole pageant
paarod off most saccessfally. The incident which probably
proved most intereitiog waa Her Majesty*s little im-
promptu speech : *^I hare great pleajinre in testifying to
my admiratloii of this beautifnl H/dl, and in exprtisaing
my earnest wijdies for its complete suoceas.** That BQceeea
ifi very much in Iler Majf^Bty'^ hands, and we fnay hope
after this expresjiiou of her feelio^, that the Queen will
again and again mcijit thouaaudja of her loving fiubjects iu
the Royal Albert Hull.
TiiK NKWsrArKfi Pitcss Fund. — The Earl of Car-
narvon will take the Chair at the Annual Dinner for the
benefit of thia uaefol Inetitation, which will take place
on Saturday, May 13.
TiTK finnt portion of the stock of Books and Manuscripts
of the late Mr. Joa. Ljlh% the eminent Dookselkr, has jti^t
been sold by !klci»rs. fvitheby, Wilkinsoti, and Hodge.
It comprised the first four fofio editions vt Shakespeare,
nmny earh' printed Books and MSS., County Histories,
Illuatratwl' Books, &c., and reatjxed 7208/. 7». 6</.
TiiK Nkvv KwioHTa, — Who can lay that in theae days
men eminent in art are not among those whom the eover-
eign deliufhts to honour, aeeing tliat on Thuraday week
Mr. WilliHin Boxall, Mr. Sterndale Benuet, Mr. Benedict,
and Dr. Kh«y receive^l the honour of knighthood at the
hauda of Her" Majesty ?
Tbb Awmrroau PAflftiONs-SpiBL Will, it U Stated,
h« Tepeated this year on Jtuie 24, July 2, 9, 16, 23, and 30;
August 6, 14, 2M, and ^ ; and Sept. 3, H, 17, and 24.
AnctiDBACON Hale.— The library of the late Maater
of the Chartf^rhouiie has been purchased by Meaeiab
Reeves & Turner of the Struud.
LONUON LhTRRHATIONAL ExilIUlTlOlt OF 1871. —
The muKical arrangements fi)r the opening of the Exhi-
bition on May 1 ase nearly completed, and new compoii-
tiona representative of France, Italy, Gemtaay, aatl
England respectively, will be product for the oeeuioa
by M. Gounod, Chevalier Plnsuti, Dr. Fprdinaiid llillef,
and Mr. Arthur Sullivan. M. Oooii !u<- i
Psalm, Chevalier Pinaoti a Chorale r -rnrdj.
Dr. Hitler a March^ and Mr. Arthur Su^. » -^ « v^^uu.
Mr. Gkoboic MoRGA^f Grkxk, a frequent oootribabir
to *^ N. ^ Q.,'^ is about to retire fi^om the house of HoUid
± Green, and to join Mr. F. ft. EUis, of King StMSt.
Coven t Garden.
Mtt. CARt.rLK.«^At the Annnal Meeting of the Urn-
bei^ of the Edinburgh Philosophical Institation, held at
Toesilay evening, Mr. Thomas Carlyle waa unaotnKMilf
re-elect«d Preudent for the ensoing joar.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WASTED to FUBCHX8B.
PtrtlaiilMv of rrtor. ae.« of the tMom^BoiAm ta tesal 4kan
tbc gcBf Utmcn far whom ibej are leqnued* whom ammm mat wMnm
■le ciiTBR Ibr tbai parpow: —
SiuJcaspaAfte. AiiecUnim,«n»Il»yft,liOTtaf tttnelriMOTtlyOW^M,
after F. Ilftjrmut. "■
W&ated by Mr. CharU* Wylit, a Eul'li T^rreec, K/mJagmtM*
rirr T.nr.^ cirn-^rv.. hy TheoOcrt* Book. tVoto.
' -'I y. tioMctU,
' i.j.ar. 1&I7,
H L, f F or Btuos,
AKM'^i ii'i'^i'i H iAiti i>^ iiruon. I»(i,
II. in. niTL.WXK'R AiKHDLil OF BTVUS*
Wonted bf Mr, John iVilttm, Kl, Ot«Al UliiKll 8lTetl, W C.
roLL-nooK roB THe UirivKRSZTT or Camboidob. IflL
Muujiirr R Bmxx. t VaU. raia 17W.
llAJi.»'(.Ais" Work*. sVoI*. ITXT.
<J„I . I.'- «...,,<.,»», M,.cnx.*^*T^ iVol«.lblItt.
CKA' 11 KB. Folio.
Evi
Yau!l _ ^ .]«« IjB|iei»per.
Wtmiod by J^t, T>^*mtf Hrrt, BxJtaelkr. l&,Ognd«ll ItNfV
B«nid etfeci, l0iidoii« W.
ftaiitti to CarrtffpontTrntjf.
" God TrMPurts tiik Wiicd," d:a— T. D. mil Jbd4
ptumffe in "N. & Q." l'» S. i. 211. 23tJ, &c.
M. T.—Surefy thrrr in 9omt mitiake in lit data^i
line, ''March 15fA, 1871,'*
D, II. T.'-Ilaee ym cotutdted wIm, ffi. iv.
ourprnsttiU serieaf
CoWTntUATlOBT OF ** CmtxsTABin.** — C. W. 8. ^
one in Blackwood /or 1B20, fr^ Migrma ,- mwlk
European Magazine /or 1816. Stc " K. & Q." '
292 ; ix. 529, &c.
D*— Protestant Popeiy wta wriUm hy Atmher^t
of Terrac Filiua.
W. (Keswick.) — On the anthtnticity of tkt work
buted to Richard of CirmctMtur consult ** X. A Q.*
i. 9a, 123, 206 ; v« 491 ; vL 87 ; 4^ S. ii. 106 1 ti. i
riBAND PUMP ROOM HOTEL, BATH, opp
It lb« Abbey ChurtJi. riBST-CTJLSS ACOOMMOI^AT
Wum Mlncml Water BMht undvt the tmoit roof.
UIS» nAVV'KSSWOBTn. Ibn^
R. HOWAED, SurgBon-Bentist, bt, FIe«» i
hu iatrodoeed aq entlRlr new dMarfplioa of AS
ITU* ftied vithoctt eprlncK WtrMi, Of tlipatin«»i lOm i
nhlc the nMtjiral tteCh Miunt to be dIgllBgBMMd itam «
hi the clwie*t otn^rver. They wtll eaver aMfe o^kotf or
lAtl be IbuDd lUDerior to aajr leelb erar btfbn wmA. Tail i
doei net reoiiiie the vKtrmMou^tnijoom to. Bay taJ^^l e
WLll mpimiTt enn tiMiienv leetn HMe Bto leetov toM wt e
ye^lorc irUcmlKildn end meetleKtiatu Dwwrad to
4cfed nond *ad tiMifbl In niaiUtolfoa..-JB, Fleei fl
TEEl
itt&viLAwtiLa/TL] NOTES AND QUERIES,
297
LQM2>0N^ SATURDAr^ AJ'RJL 8, 1871.
CONTENTS.— N* 17L
VOTES :' FtoU la uoiszpectod PLactsL 197 — "Qi»tory of
Sdward IL," Fol. 1680, 288 — Folk Lot* : Uwwes at a
Oevetaad Fatieral Forty Yean Ago» Ac, 75.— Ancient Sij?-
met foimd at BaUk?, 900— Iiaac DisraelL /6 — Ted rtjuon and
tlie**l'lmin Dealer "—James Cav&n a C€rtt«uanAU-'& irj all-
Pot —ScixufR of Chattels under a " Heriot*' — Clmp-
Books — A Mountebank of the lant C«atury, 301.
QUE&ISS : ' Waiiam Baliol — Character of Gon«tantiii«
— D« Lorraim^ — " lkn:uijiiL![i( s A rubictjs '* — A GonuBu
EtymoJoifical i "Messiah"— Har-
row Scbctol r I Book -platt'S — Lord
Jcrt-oUtT or 'i \].m: Ackwortb
CL Btberuau —
SI to Disttth by
^ iij . lilemi -- Ser-
E\<ii\ Of EligiiUui — ScutiU — WjuiliLS, 302,
-Ombr**; Bo«iton, 305— Mourning, or Blacls-
'- ''- ^ ■'— Adam tk Or k- ton, 308 — Mar-
ly Grimsiton's Grave iu Tewin
Ch. ■ TowfT--"TlH» Hob In tli(?
yt,r,, - - - --■ '-■ - -- '• r:
t>Xlk^ - e
' '" ■" ' <'ur, .mniNii iir A. n. — '
ilordihire-" The straight
Prinry of i 'oldiii^hani —
' '' loville— *• Pen
Lcr ie. dc*-" Jan-
*t^\ in Putco"—
* fyriuiiiK and j^miiiik nw j.\ai!ics^ liaiiajsaiufy — Piadeflie'
Itovera— llmiijtb, Ac.,30&.
1 00 Book*. &o.
FACTS IX UNEXPECTED PLACES,
the readers of **N. & Q.** there can be
ig new in the assertion that many curious
often reallr Taluablo notes and det^ls ar^
in books where they are leaat likely to b«
Of c/^urse to any one inveatigatiug a
lionruj, or th© life of any indiridual, cer- i
would speedily occur for exainina-
bject But how many and important
mgi lit^ unknown and un&oujjht in boak^
would seem little likely to yield such trea*
haa, therefore, often occurred to me that it
r real service to future writers to
li memoranda in Tarioua biographies
I ^. Tit mi books; and where could references to
i h* mort* fitly accumulated than in the pages
". Sc Q/' ? Its most valuable indexes, I doubt
of inestiniable senice to our present
on all aorta of subjects, and will become
UDfcly sa
The hoiLe in which James III. of Scotland
ainated wa^ not long ago referred to by
0 alien t (p. W). At the pt?riod this was
I had just met with the following
pasMMige in the Memoir of Br, Jumvif
Uev. W, Amot (Nisbet, London).
_^ that it yields also an interesting
eomceming Bannockbum and " the
Brace/* During an excurmon in 1836, Dr, Ilamil*
ton writes :^ —
" At Beaton Mills, saw tba old cottago where James III-
was murdertfl, and was shown part of the upper and
netbcr mitl'^toncSf with marka of tiic apindic-sockets
which had boun in oae at the time. ,.».... The room
where Jaine4} ojcpired ia a small plnce, with a roof too low
to Admit of vour Htanding upri^'ht. The comer where
he l]iy Ls gtitl pointed out bj the side of the fire, llicn
proceeded to the Add of Bannockbura. Tlie Brue«'8 flag-
stooe still rcmaios, A weaver had it built into the wall
of bui hooBe, but the laird very properly made him take
down the wall and surrender the stones which is now de-
ftmdt'd from further perils by a strong iri>n grating. Tho
cows were feedin;^ very peaceably in the raora»» where
Edward's cavalry made such etumbling amon^t Bnice*«
Bpikea and pltfalfs."— P. ti7.
Two years later Dr. Hamilton mentions tlmt,
among other curioaitiea, he saw in the house of
Mrs. Gregory, *' widow of the late Dr. G. of
famous claaaical and medical memory, the bones
and coffin nails of Kobert Bruce\* ! (1*, 101.)
We have also memoranda of **tho famous
'45 " (1745). When tho rebels were in Edin-
burgh, one night a Highland follower of the
prince was taken up by 3ie guard because it ww
plain he could not take care of himself. Wlienin
the gU(u-d-house he came somewhat to his senses ;
his first ejaculation was, ''Hech, sirs! it*s soil
wark flitting thae kings.'* (P. 381.)
*• Fortv years ago Strathblane (the early home of Dr.
H.) r<?tatnc^l traces of primitive ftimplicity- The name
of Rob EoY filled a Jarger idjure in thu imagination of the
people than the Dnke gf Wellington ; and fdl who had
reached foun&core auld recall the liraed of the Pretender.
Mrs. ProvoQ was eight years old when a detadimentof the
rebel army ptwsed through the Muir of Fintry, and as
she waD the only one left at home, the Highlanders
coaxed and threatened her by turns to reveal the biding-
phice of the tneid and cheeses j but, although >he h«d seen
them buried in the raosa, the little maid wa:^ firnit and
neither swords nor *flweeti€8' could extort her secret.
The anival of the first umbrella was a comp^^
ratively recent and weU-remembered era."— Pp. ISt HL
Many details, correspondence, Ac, are given of
the disruption of the Free Kirk of Scotland,
pp. 98, 158, 200, 209, 211, 231. Among them is
a description by Dr. Hamilton of thf? memorable
withdrawal from the General Assembly, May 18,
1S43.
We ha^e also a reminiscence of Sir Francis
Burdett, p. t)l ; Lord JelTrey^s account of tho
system b^* which he remembered his speeches,
and his failure in his '* maiden speech ** in Parlia-
ment, p. 400 ; and sundry particulars of the lieT,
Edwaid Irving in his ei\rly days, and especially
in London, pp. 05, 176» 184 : also reminiscences*
letters, &c., of the late Rev. 11, M*Cheyne of
Dundee, pn. 143. 148, 163, 235, 237. 239, 316;
the late H&y. W. Bums, pp. 143, 147, 148, 152,
309 ; of Dx. (now Archbishop) Tait, pp. 45, 465,
46<j.
In his early days, xinder tho lectutfta ot 'Sxt^ •
298
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4<* a. rth Ai
Hooker, Dr, Hamilton studied botany. See pp. 02-
97 for details of intercourse with Sir W. and hia
familj, and of **old George DoDj" the Scotch
botanist.
Dr. Hamilton write* in 1S37 : —
** Alt know tbe story of Haago Park and the mosa.
When he came home he gave it to hia brother-ln-Uw, Mr.
Dtcki^a* and told him ' that is tha mosii that saved my
life in Africa,* Mr. D. gave it to Sir William, who keeps
it among a multitude of other caHositiea." — Fp. 1^5, 9f»,
Let me alao add, that Bimdry eiplanations and
details respecting the commao^place hooka, in-
dexes, &c., whereby Br. Hamilton made avail-
able the fitores accumulated by his extensive
reading, may he interesting and suggestive to
other itudenta: pp, 397-404; alao, pp. 77-t*0.
S. M,S.
[The only ohJ«ction to the anggeation of our valaed
conreapondont la tbo difficulty of earning It out. Untesa
ott the nameM mentioned in auch papers m are propo»e<1
•re entired in our Indejc, the object aimt-d at would
not tie attaint ; and if »a entered we fear our Index
would be inoieaaed to a yery inoonveDlcnt extent, — £o.
I dare not «ay I yield or yet dear it ;
Shame atopa the one, the other fe*z fothi
Only I beg I be not made partaker.
Or privy to the time, the meaaa, the ma;
The King a angiy reply to hia council
"Ami your king ? If so, why then obe}
Leat while you teach me law, I learn yv
Know I am firmly bent, and wUI not vai
If you and all the kingdom frown, I can
You roui?t enjoy your own afTectionf*
I not ao much as question or oontroul tbi
But If that am your sovereign, must be t
To love and like alone by your diacretioD
Do not miBtake, I am not now in wardsh
Nor will be chalk^t oat wayi to guide mj
Tend you the kingdom and the public w
I can prevent mine own without protecti
I should \Mi loth to let you feel my power
Rut muiit and will, if you too much onfoi
If not obedience, yet your loves might t«i
A kind oonsent when* 'tis yoar king that
But you perhaps conceit you share my jh
You neither do nor shall, 'whtlo I commai
I will be still myself or less than nothini
JA8wO.
" HISTORY OF EDWARD II.," FoL, 1680,
In the first volume of the first eeries of
"N. & Q." the question is raised as to the authoF-
ship of this history, which in the abridged edi*
tion of it, printed in the same year, h represented
as " found amon^ the papers of, and supposed to
be writ by, the Right Honourable Henry Viscount
Faulkland, souietime Lord Deputy of Ireland."
To the folio edition is however pretixed ** the
author'fi prefaeo to the reader," signed " E. F./'
and dated February UO, 1027 — manifestly dis-
agreeing with the Attribution to the fitiiit Lord
^nlkland. On the other hand, the same work is
ascribed to Edward Fannant by the compilers of
the British Museum Catalogue, but on what
grounds I am unable to say. But whoever might
have been the author, I wish to csli attention to
the fact — which, I believe, bas not been before
noticed^tbat the epeeches interepersed in it, and
occaaionally part of the narrative, are in blank
verse, BuggeBting the probability that the history
waa tranBprosed or worked up into its present
*thape from some old play. I will give a specimen
or two from the volume, it being understood that
the following extracts are printed in it as prose.
The Queen*3 eipostnlation with Mortimer on
hia propofiing to make away with the King
(p. 163):-
** Stay, gentle Mortimer, I nm a woman.
Fitter to hear and take advice than give it.
Think not I pn^e thee in so mean a fashion
Aj to despiflfl thy safety or thy counsel.
Mtiat Edward dye, and is there no prevention ?
Oh wretched BtMUi of greataesa, frail condition,
That Jspreaery'd by bJoodj securM by murdei '.
\
FOLK LORE.
USAGES AT A CLEVELAND FDJ^ERA
YEARS AGO.
An aged man, wealthy, hut baTinj
miaerly life, who died at Redcar abont fi
aince, ordered his funeral as follows: —
" A great public breakfast was held, sucli i
drinking having never been witnessed in the
lifetime. The coffin was carried, slung m\
knotted togetEier, nnd borne by relays of men
up the old • Corpse- way ' [sea *' Churrh-roii
cWdnnd Glossary], bumped three times on
stones (an ancient reeting-plaoe at the tap of
* The Lamentation of a Sinner* was then stin
procession moved on to the churcbyard^ e
woman, and child receiving a dole of 6a. as Ibei
[See *♦ Dole " aa above].
My correspondent, in illustration of t]
ing, adds that not long »ince, in an ace
Jewish funeral at Bruges, she met wjtl
lowing sentence : —
"During the procession to the bnrying gi
coffin WAS put down on the road three timet
mourners repeated verses from Pa. xci. with lii
driving away evil spirita." J
** The Lamentation of a Sinner,*' m
above, copied from a Bible of the date 1
to be composed temp. Henry VIII., and
music in the old angular notation, rima tl
*• 0 Lorde* hirne nnt away thy f^oe —
From hira rhiit lieth pro,«tTate, ^
Lamentinp: wore his .^infull life, ^
B<:f0re thy mercy gate.
Which gate thou openest wid« to thOM
That doe lament their sin ;
Shut not that (;jito agnin^t me, Lord*
But let me enter in.
Aran, 8, 71.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
299
I
^" t
nd cjill me not to mine accoonts,
flow 1 hiiue liued here ;
or then I know right wdl, O Lord,
How Tile 1 shaU appe&re.
I need Qot to confesae my life*
1 am sure thou cansit tc^U
What I baae Li«enc and what I am,
I know th&a knowest it well.
0 Lord, thou knowcit what tlunga 1ie paiit^
And eke the things that be;
TboD know(»t aJso what is to come,
Nothing is hid from thee.
Before the heaneni and earth were mado,
Tboa knoweat what things were then,
Ab all tbin^ else that hatti bcene since,
Among the sonnea of men.
And can the thing? thAt I haae done
Be bidden from thee then ?
^^^ar. na>% thou knoweat them alt, O Lord,
^m Where they were done and when,
^Bwhii-rrfnre with teare« I come to,thee,
^B Tkj beLT 'iiid to entreat :
^Bjluen ajs the child that hath done etiilli
^■^ And feareth to be beat.
^^%o come i to ihy merer ^ate,
Where mercy doth abound,
Requirinir mercie for my sinne.
To heaie my dcadely' wound.
0 Lord, I need not to repeat©
What I doe beu or craue :
Thou knowest^ 0 Lord^ before I aake,
I The thing that I would haui?.
Hercy. gcK>d Lord, mercy I aake,
Thlfl h the totall summti ;
Tor mercy. Lord, is all my sute :
Lord, let thy mercy come,"
J. C Atkinsoit.
y in Cleveland.
H Folk Lobe, — The following, which I
lie from & report of a case in the Court of Pro-
lie which occurred very lately in Dublin, is, I
link, well worth preser?ation La the mLstea of
*^ Crawley v. Crawl ey.
"The deceased Thomas Crawley was a farmer resid-
i|r at Carrickm across, in the county of Monaghan. He
lei in May last, having^ on the 2od of Dec IhQd made a
il, which having been duly executed, was placed in a
ilbof which the wife kept the key by the t«ststor*a direc-
~{ but on the night of his death, when there were a
of p«ople in the place, some of the women present
Iggmed that it wob iprong to hav€ any floor » or drawerM in
k place locked when apermm Mmadyin^,&nfi accordingly
I Jacks were unbolted^ the safe amon^r^t oth(>r places
^ left open. In the morning it was discovered that
^Win was removed and could not be found.
I** Mr. Houston, who appeared for the plaintif; eza-
wtd a Bucnber of witnesses as to the contents of the
ma^ doeument, and as to the circumntaaces under
m It had been lodt, and hia Lordship (Judge Warren),
bo heard the case without a jury, bein^ satisfied that
• will was not destrojed by the testator in hitt lifetime,
id that it must have been taken by some of the persona
(lie hoioM on the ni^ht of the decease, granted probate
ik oontcDti."
Lovgh Fe«, Carrickmacroes. Ev. PE, 8m&LMT.
SHiyriRLU Vm.% Lobs.— It is, I believe, an
admitted fact that the acene of Mr. Charles Reade'S
Pid i/tfurseif in his Place in laid at Shetfield ; and
that the author epeikt some time in that neigh-
bourhood when engaged on the composition of the
work. It seems to me, therefore, that the follow-
mg acrajpa of folk lore, put into the mouth of
Jael Dence, "a villager of unbroken descent," are
worth extracting for "N. & Q,'^ I quote from
the edition in oae volume : —
1. "If a pirl was in church when her banns
were cried, her cbildien would all be born deaf
and dumb *' (p. 120),
2. The ^* Gabriel hounds," called by Jael
*' Gabble retch«st*' What is the meaning of
'*retchet"P ** They are not hounds at all ^ they
are the 6ouIa of unhaptiaed children^ wandering'
in the air till the day of judgment." The ** Ga-
briel hounds " are explained a^i ♦* a strange thing
in the air, that is said in these parts to foretell
calamity," sounding like *' a great pack of beagles
in full cry '*: they are, of cour8<?, connected with
the German tcild Jti^tr (pp. 156, 157).
3. ** If you sing before breakfast, you'll cry be-
fore supper" (p, 157). In London the version
commonly used is : ** Laugh before bieakfastj crjr
before night.*'
4. la the reason for the "imlucldneaa '* of meet-
ing a magpie generally known? I have never
met with it elsewhere. "That's the only bird
that wouldn't go ioto the ark with Noah and hu
folk ... a very old woman told me .... She
liked better to perch on the roof of th' ark, and
jabber over the drowning world. So ever after
that, when a magpie flies across, turn back, or
look to meet ill luck " (p, 172).
5. '* 1 like you too well to give you a pin/'
'' What would be the consequence ? ** III luck,
you may be sure. Heart trouble, they do aay *'
(p. 144).
6. Martha D^nce marries Phil. Davis. Jael
says : ** 1 went to church with a hea\'^ heart on
account of their both begiantng with a D — Dence
and Davis : for 'tis an old saying —
• If you chnn^e the name and not the letter,
You change for the worse and not for the better*' "
(p. 333).
I have purposely omitted some examples which
are widely distributed. James Britixn.
Kew.
A Weathkr Sattko. — A Iluntiiigdonshire
cottager (an octogenarian) told me the other day,
"There's a saying that a dark Christmas sends
a fine harvest. I've known that saying from a
boy, and IVe always found it to hold good." The
dark Christmas, of course, referred to " no moon."
CrTKBEBT BbDE.
Niw Year Sm'RBRTiTHiT*.— ^ 12*^ \jaffii!t^-
ihire many bQUftekoldeTa wca '^ w^ wmov^a ^Oc^i^ ^
300
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4"»S.V1I. April 8»7L
dark-haired person should he the first to enter
th«ir liouaes on New Year*fl Day. Sorae j^q bo
far aa to hire a person to do this in order to prevent
A mistake. A curious variation of this super-
stition occurred laat New Year's Daji for a gen-
tleman who was anxioufl to avoid bad luck actuallj
turned his hlock cat out of doors shortly before
midnight, and did not allow it to return until be
was quite sure that the New Year had com-
menced. T, T. W.
The Grtjat Bear ant) StnonsB RAtifFALL.—
A flkflful old ^rdener, a native of Yorkshire, has
just aseured me that the coming summer will he
a dry one, and for the following re a«i on: —"The
Great Bear is on this aide of the North Pole, and
aa long as he remains there the summers will he
dry. He has been on this side for the last three
years, and the summers have all been dry. If he
could get the other side we should have a wet
Bummer, e?p«eially as he would then he in con-
nexion ivilh Venus and Jupiter.'*
Thoiifch familiar with the popular " sayings
about the weather ^' in Devon ana Cornwall, the
foregoing is new to me. Can any writer of
"N. & Q." say whether it is known in Yorkshire
or elsewhere, and whether my ancient &iend has
in any way metamorphosed it ?
WH* PK5GKLLY.
Torquay* ^^
ANCIENT SIGNET FOUND AT BAIiB.
Some twenty miles south of Pcestum there ia
a small yillag-e called Porcile, at the ffjot of Mount
Stella. Here I happened to be henightt^d in my
wanderinji^s tbrough Italy, and thereby beeamo
acquainted with its r*ispec table padre, Pietro
Zammarella, whom I found to posseaa a small
collection of curioaitiei of various kinds — coins,
cameos, but the most interestinfif to me was a
signet which had been picked up at Baim. Any
closer approach to our printing typo could not
well be imagined, and when I covered the raised
type with ink find stamped it on mj note book I got
the letters as clearly printed ag if they had been
formed by on*? of our moat accurate tvpe-founderfl.
The material fleemed to be bronze, the characters
were raised, and I should imagine that it had
been formed in a mould. There was a ring at-
tached to it. The letters had been made with
great exactness and wonderfully similar, the let-
ters being very slender. It was in inches 2-1 in
length, '9 in breadth, and the height of the letters
waa *8. The inscription was^
BEX POStPO
VALENTIS,
A fac-dimild of this signet will be found in my
A^M^Ar^ and By -way i of Itahj (^. 20). I do not
pretend to hftve investigated tiiia suhject at idl it
e&refuUy, and therefore if I say that tliis ia oive ^y\
the earliest approachea to printing amoag tba
Romans that has yet been found, it muit b** fii3<
derstood that I do so with considerable r
Can any one who has investigated this po
us the earliest apecimen that haa jet bee'
of this attempt at printing amony the Fl
There are s|i^cimenB, I believe, m the lintuh
Museum. Can any approximation to the tfe cf
any of these specimena be made f In rftgwi ^
Sextiis Pomponiua Valcaia, to whom thissigMt
belonged, I would inquire if the names of Uu
admirals (prsefecti) of the fleet which wai 0t^
tioned during the imperial period of Rome it
Miaenum, clo«e to Baite^ are known. \VhoeT<t
this Pomponiust was, he must have been ^^ ''':'*'
rank to poaseBs such a signet-ring, TL
Sextus Pomponiufl who is mentioned in ii:. :.,.;;
ia the celebrated jurist, some of whofe woili
have been preserved. If we could imagine Ihil
thia was the seal of the jurist, it would he a viltt-
ahle relic, but we do not know that his cognoiatt
was Valens.
The family of Valens came into notice io Uu
imperial period, and from the reign of Augmtiii
we find several of soma celebrity. None of
them, however, have thd namea Sextus Poinp»>
nius. One of tha principal generals of ik .
Emperor Vitollius in a.d. 09 waa Fahius Valei
whose character ia drawn in the blackest coloi^
by Tacitus. In the royal museum at Ni
recoOect seeing an inscription rather ren
as it is in both Greek and Latin, It waaJ
near Misenum, and on it is the name VaL Yd
commander (prcefectos) of the fleet, tl
office that was held by the 'elder Pliny '
fell a victim to the eruption of Vesuviua, J
I have been reminded of thia seal by the ill
ing paper of Mb. Holt on early' Block
(4*** & vii. 13.)
CEAUFtTHB TaJT RaI
ISAAC DISRAELI.
The following notes may interest the admire
of the Disraelia, father and son. In the
church at Bradenham, where the former so !
resided, and where his memory is still ohe;
there is a tablet of white marble let into tha i
with this inscription : —
Saci^d
Tq the Memoriea
<yf
Isaac Disraeli, Esquibk, D,CL»,
of
HrAdenham House,
Author of" Curiosities of LttftrAtnw,"
Who dtod Janunry 19^^, 1548, in hw 82»*y««f«
and
Of his Wifj Marta,
To whom he was united for Forty-fiw ysam.
Sh« died April 21« 1847, in tbc 72»*< year oi km M
TVi^u remflinfl lie side by side in thQ viiult of lli« a^pR^
NOTES AND QUERIES.
301
A few jean ago the pre«ent Vi^ountess Beo-
^Qsfield efttieed a monumcntnl column in bonotir
af her fiither-in-lftw to be ercHitt^d upon the brow
}t an eminence cloielj adjacent to that upon
rlucb ilughenden Manor, the residenct^ of her
tOibAodp 15 situated. It towers amidst sceDery of
Wpaanng loveUDesd, is plaii% Tisible for many
fulea rouad, and bears the annexed iDscriptioiir
rftdch^ those who know anything of tha spontA-
mms gracefulnesa of hie "happy" style will
BUcelT hesitate to attribute to tlie pen of the
^ight lion. B. Diaraeli. It runs thua : —
^ " Tn rnernorr of Isaac Di»aACLi» of BradcnhAiD HooRe
5 tnly, Ksq., iind Qooorary D.C.L. of the Uni-
t UxronI, vrhOf by hid happy genius, diflTuseil
:■•*!' thni elevarinp taste for literature
'I lie wad the priviJej^e only of the
1 tient wfl-^ erectwl by Mary Anno,
t t son Kif:bt Ilnnbte. B» Disraeli^
< -heqtier 1852, 1)^68-9, Lortl of this
iu' w ji.i i.li«! sixth time Knight of th'iA SUire.*^
\ XHaraeli was bora at Enfield in May 1700,
married Teb. 10, 1802, Mrs, Disraeli
daughter of George Budsevi, Esq., of
Benjamin DiBraeli the elder died at
wington Not. 28, 1810, in his
wTcuLu year, P.
\3os JUTD THE <^PL\rK Dkalek.*' —
i nor of the Plain Denier and of, perhaps,
iuaie of the mo«t corrupt and corrupting comedies
1^ are to be found — although by no mejin^ the
ce»we«t — can have little in comtnou with the
vwmt purity of our Laureate, and yet in one
iaKiiioe he lias fairly anticipated the more popular
ffkis beautiful quatrains ; nor has he only done
tiuj^ Int he has done it with a tenderness and
cInjrHni t> few prose men of hi.^ day could have
rivAlLvJ Tennyson's worda are these :■ —
*' 1 hold it troe, whateVr befall,
I fe«l it when I **jitow mont;
*Tu better to huve loved and tost.
Than never to have loved At all/"
In Mtmoriam^ xxrii*
OoBsreve'a pretty thought is not quite a purntlel
mworoiv ^^t IS exactly so in feeling, Mr^. Mar^
'Dod, who is not of necessity either a widow or a
J9Gng married woman, but simply MiHtrt'M Mar-
*ood^ with whom Fainall is in love, talking of
ikkt passion, says : —
"IViw 'tis nn \mhn^y drcumttance of life, that Invp
*| CT» r ■ ' n" ua J Uiit wiy wliat you vrill 7t>
Id A'l '. than nnftr to have been /oyrJ," —
e/Vit \ tlLSc, 1.
If Mrs. Marwood hod been a widow aighing
Of er ber lost huaband, the parallel had been closer
tad the patho« more perfect. How thoroughly
ffilfereDt tf^^ r.fJTngr of these two men of letters,
remiTSori jTOve, is in regard to their art
bay he - m trusting the noble estimate of
in
the poet of the former with these lines of Con-
greve from the prologue to this play : —
** Of tho*i6 *ew fooU who with ill .♦tars arc rur*l,
Sare Jtcribhling fools call'd Poett fjire the woret;
For thty'Ttj a set of fools which Fortune make*,
And, after the has made 'ein Utoh^ /orsaAei ! "
May I take this occasion to beg of your readers
to do me the favour of sending any quotations or
celebrated sayings they may light upon^ to form a
supplement for my FamiUar Wm-ds, as I wish to
make that, as far as possible, a model dictionary
of quotations, AH cases in which my friends aid
me I shall be happy to acknowledge in my book^
which I am alreaay preparing ; and they will add
to the obligation if to every citation they append
an exact rererence of poem, canto, verse and line,
act and scene, or Yolume, chapter, page, and edi-
tion. , Haik Friswbll*
74, Great Eussell Street, Bloomsbury.
Jaxb3 Cavait a CENTENARLOf. — Some notices
in your pages on the subject of centeniirianism
suggested to me to make inqtiiries as to the actual
age of an old man named James Cavan, who is
at present living near Newtown Ards, in the coimty
of Down. For some years I have known that
thia man was '* generally believed " in the neigh-
bourhood to be about one hundred years old, but
I feared that, as U usual in such case;?, the proofs
would not be forthcoming.
The following facts seem dearly to prove that
James Cavan is now 102 years oM i — In the year
l77o Alexander Stewart of Newtown Ards, Esq.
(great-grandfather of the present Marquis of
Londondeny), granted a lease of part of the
townland of B nil v witty cock, in the panah of New-
town Ards, to James Cavan, the father of our
centenarian. The lea*e wa^^for three lives — natnely,
James Cavan, the father* aged alxiut fifty years^
and his two sons Andrew and James, aged re-
spectively eleven and mx. This James i^ still
alive, and is therefore 102 years old this year.
The lease is now before me, and the land is still
held under it.
I am told that Cavan was when yoimg a yeiy
active and powerful man. He was a United Irlsb-
nian, and was in hiding for a considerable time
after 1798. He has always been an industrious
hard-working man, and still works, though he ia
very feeble and Lis eyesight is nearly gone. I
saw him about eighteen months ago engaged
collecting eeaweed for nnmure on the Deacb
about a mile south of Newi^swn Ards, near his
cottage. He has no descendants, and is poorly
enough ofl, but is kept from actual want bv the
kindness of a few families living in the neigh Dour-
hood. Wm. n. pATTERSQir.
Strondtown, IMfaat.
Small-Pox.— The subjoined cutting from the
Wedeni Mail for March 13, 1871,€fiQmft ta xaftjol
preservation in " ^. &- V \ —
302
NOTES AND QUERIES-
l4»fcS.ni,Ar
** Wales Axr» tiik Small-Pox.— At the present time,
when the spr««d of ihe flmall-pox <?pMemic jaocfasiontn^
much fllami m London «nrt tUroujihout the countn% thu
itubjoined note from an nld maK^ruiue will pos«*s some
interest : — * Newport, in Wales, etaiiiis tho merit of having
pracrijied inocuUtinn of thu sraall-pox from time irame-
morial, before it wa«i pvcn known to the other countiea of
Brlttln ; for while thiiL<»ndan phymciiinp. on tti« recnm-
mendatioQ of a TarkiDli prmctioe by Lmdy M«r\' Wortky
Montng^a, were oautiomly venturing to expedrnvat oa
tome condemned tirimin&K tli<B more hardy native of
PcmbrokcAliire ilareil to inoculate himself, wilhotit the
aasfattnce of eithur phrsidan or preparation. This was
aa early aa tho year 1723. The method had been con-
stantly attended with great luccw^ ; and though it ha<I
not acquired the nnme of inoculfiiion, yt't it was carrit-d
<>a much in th*> .^ame manner. They called it hm^ing tfif
small'fHix^ as it was the; ciwlofji to purchnw the matter
contained in tlie pustule>i of each other.* We j^lioald be
plad if any of our readera could throw moro light on a
drctinistanpe f»o honourable to Wales/' — Cardiff and
Merthyr Gican/ma of March 10, 1871.
R. & M.
Sbtzuiie of Chattels usher a ** IIeriot."-^
The accompRTiviug cutting is worth preaen iog in
'* N, Sc Q/' :—
**SrNGUf^u CraTOM nr E?toLA:fn.— In the supple-
mentary e«ttimate a vote of 75,U()il/. h a.^ked f(>r, for the
pietureH collected by the late Sir Robert Peel. In con-
nection with Sir Hobert*8 celebrated picture, the ' Cha-
pcaii de Faille,' a curiouii atory was once told by the late
Lord Cranworth in the Hoiwe of Peem. Hif* lordship, in
moving the second reHftding of the Copyhold Enfranchise-
ment Bill, alluded to ihat striinj;((?.st of all anomalies in
Kngli^h cu»toTn which passed under the name of heriot.
i'his existed in very many manrtm, and by H, on the
death of a peraoo holding land subjert to the custom, the
lord might ^eize the be^t chattel of which the tenant died
pa<wc!M.sed. It waa within the late 8ir R. FoeW know-
Je<lge that the famous horse Bmolensko, worth *2,0rj<)i or
8,0{)0/., was seized nnder a heriot, and that \irhen tha
first L*>rd A binge r, as Mr, Scarlett, was at the bar, a fal*o
report of hin death having been cireulatt^d, the tlr?t inti-
mation which Mrs Scarlett hft4 of it wni? the seizure of
three of the leanied gentleman'«< be-^^t hnr^n by i!ie lord
of the fWJil. Sir Ivobert, b*;iiiK ihf? leuarit of a manor to
which a htsriot attached, waa In the greute^it apprehension
Ihat if flnything happened to him the picture tiboi-e men-
tioned mii;ht be taken» and in ortler to free htra«elf from
thnt ri?k he bought the manor "f which the co|ivhold wan
held.— ZJtfiVy aVVit*." — Lctd* Mercuru, March 17.
K. F. D. E.
CuAr-BooKB. ~ The following nre the short
titles of chap-books printed at Hull by J. Fer-
tfCUy. They are m three seta — ^all without date*
The first Set I am inclined to consider sotuewhat
earlier than the seoind, which u nbrmt 1799-18IX),
and the third aomo years latur. Mr. Ferraby
infcjrms the public on some of these choice »ped-
mens of typo^iphy, that he has ** The jjreatest
choice of old ballads^ godly patter?, hiatoiies, and
children- book 9, printed in aa neat a manner and
with m good cuta as at any other place in Fjig:-
land ;/' so that we may conclude his issues to have
been very nutneroua. Thoae detailed below are
Jt// / htive yet been able to rf cover. All are in
l^mo, TMigihg from eight to iwenty-Coxii ^^^^^ \
and are occasionally adoraed with cnU
match the printing and paper in workman
poughneaB : —
The Cruel Cooper of RatclifTi Garland: Tht lri*</
Wight's Garland I The Qjtfordshlre Tm ' r '"
Virgin's Advice ; The New Wc*t fjountri '
Strand Garland; Nixon's Cheshire Pn i^
The History of the Wind Beggar of 1
Crown and Glory of Chrislianitv, to •
ing Re»f, by Robert Koas, D.l).; Du.,.j . .-.,
or the Christian '» Reliance upon God; The H
that Holy Dijwi pie Joseph of Arimathea; The V.
Christian, or the Righteotw Man'd Gotlly Sorrow; I
True and Faithful Account of the Manner of Chritt con-
ing to Judgment nn the Last Day ; A Divine DUli^fi^
between John Williams of Gloucester and Sqiiir»
Wright; The .\tbe.iat Converted, or tho UDbelicver^
Eyiw Opeti'd.
The Friar and Boy, or the Youn^ Piper^a P)«Mat
Pastime (two parts) ; The Merry Fralics, or the Comieil
Cheats of Swalpo, a notoriood Pickpockets And tht
Mcrn^ Prank« of Roger the Clown ; The Slcepini; BetuTr
of the Wood; The Art of Court-^hip. or tho Schwl af
Love; The Cries of a Wounded CMMitiencc: The Lift of
William Nevi-son, a notonous Highwayman . . , . , ind
Generosity, a Tale»
Partridge and Flamatead's New and Well*expen'wd
Fortune Book ; The Cries of a Woauded UoiwdviiM [ii
before].
W.C.E
null.
A Mountebank of the last CEjrxtrttr.-
memorials of an extinct race wiU be approp
to '* N. & Q.'^ In Wheler'fi JliMory mid A^
ties of Si rntford'Upon' Avon (^hich 1 knowl
been printed in 1806, though it baa no datAi
title-page) is (p. 60) the following memonili
a gravestone on the floor of the church : —
** Nicholoa Yaogablei, Gent., died the Ilth of ^
1774, aged 37,"
and from Mr. ^lieler'a annotated cony of 1
volume, which waa presented to the Shi
Museum at Stratford by the author*s aurrir
sister in 1862, 1 traoecrib© the following pi;
culars : —
'' ^^r. Vangable was a Mountebank ; bat having th
acquired a Hufticietit property to support him retlndi
StrHtfurd, where he died. Hi* manners were re^^ieef'"
and genteel, and hia person waa tall and remarkably i
shaped, I have heard he waa of Dutch extrmcttoo.*'
<9ufTtrtf.
WiLLTAK Baxiol. — Will an J of the r^aden of
** N. & Q/* give me some account of Sir W'illliin
Baliolj the brother of John Idnj^ of Scotland » ami
son of the founder of Baliol College f WeevtT,
in bis Ffmm*al Monumetitg^ states that be wu
buried at the monnstery of SVhitefriarsObeerrant^
at Canterbury. Who did he marry? by tviwit
means did he escape the doom— V ' V it unl
exile — of those of b i a n ame ? and w ] m v^t
ol -QfiTQ.^ was in those early timea iv-sonea ttn, to
I^S.VIL Apiih,S,7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
303
acape tHd pains and penalties attaching to the ex-
eommunicantsand outlawed ? Can Mb, Sinclaib,
or Mr. Laixo. or any other gentleman enlighten
me on the subject, as it is a link in a chain of in-
qtiiry I much want ?
The namo of Bnliol became extinct after the
Tear 1330^ and after the Biurender of Edward
iialiol, the son of John the unfortunate king of
Gotland, although issue of some of the heads of
the family of that name were living both in Eng-
', and Scotland at that time. Did they assume
other name ? and if bo^ what name P and un
t authority can anch assertion bo supported i"
J. H. S,
Chabactisb or Co^eiAjmifB*— Amelius Victor
describes Constantine as *' TravhaUi decern anois
pnestanUasimuB ; duodecim flequentibuaAi^ro; de-
cern novissimis pfipillus ob immodicas profusionea."
I know not how Trachala can apply as an epithet
to CoDJitantine, except, as at the bands of some
he has not escaped the charge of tlipperineMf ho
may, in the earlier part of hia career, have framed
his' policy a liltle too much on the following
model : —
IV* ^(oAurtfcurffy B^rp rkt BiaSokit.
AristopU, Equite$j 490.
Edmund Tbw, M,A.
TH: Lorbajke,^ — I should bo much obliged for
rrect information, or for any clue to obtain-
j'*h, concerning the history of the family of
Lorraine {pt Durham and North u in b^rland)
Ttfuritrg the eleventh, twelfth, tbirteeath, and foxir-
benth centuries; especially as to whether the
descent of Edward Lorain e of this family, who
dquired the estate of Kirkharle in Northumber-
Uod by marriage in the reign of Henry V., can
ed through them to Kohert de Lorraine
ilcher de Lorraino, who lived Lmp. William
L iflU IL Concerning these two persons I should
slao be glad of information on the following
jwants : — From what family each was descended,
ind what arms, if any, were borne hj Hobert ?
How and when each of his ancestors came to
EE;;^']and, and whether Kobert is likely to have
been identical with the ** Delaroune *' of the
Battle-Abbey Roll? (See Grafton's Chrottkle.)
Whether they or any at their succesBors (previous
|0 1416) held property in Durham, and if so
whcreS*
In some private accounts in my possession
Bob#rt de Lorraine is stated to have come to
[^* ** There were lereTal collatfind branches of tbia sir-
Dsmt of Bmliol in Scotland, donors and witnesses in our
cIoi5t«r regi:it4>n; and in the Ragman Roll therd arc
four or five of them of good aocount. Some say that the
BafUks are dc*cended from the Baliols, whic^h U-it name
beiti^ odious to the nation, they chaoged it to Bail lie, aitd
it ieema th*ir arms too, for they aro very different from
ilm BsHoIil'*— Kbb«t'« ff€ruldry, I i7&-.£i»J
England with the Conqueror, to have been a
great fioldier and scholar, and to have been re-
warded with lands in Durham by Rufus. He is
mentioned in Baker's Chrofiicie^ p. 41, ed* ICCO,
as having epitomised the Chronicle of Marinnus
ScotuSf and I believe he was made Bishop of
Hereford. Walcher de Lorraine was Bishop of
Durham and Earl of Northumberland,
LOXHAIS.
J)4, Piccadilly.
'* DOCUMENTOS AbABICOS.*' —
** In a collection of papers puhliahcd in 1790, called
Dacvmentnx ArabicoSf from the Eoyal Archives of Lis-
bon, chiefly coniistinpj of letters between the kings of
Portuffal and the tributary princes of the East in the
sixteenth oenturi,-, the Zcque, Sheik, or King of Melinda,
with whom De (jama alicrwarda made a trtJity ol' alliance,
and who&o aniha^sador he carried into Portugal, was
named Wngexaje*" — Clarke, L 486-7 1 Kerr'a F«yaye»
and Travels, H 343 »
The work above meDlioned was translated into
Portuguese by Father John de Soum* iu 1790.
Does it throw any light upon the piirenta^e or
history of Timoin/rimnjnj or Tim- Raj, the Iliodu
ally of the great Albuquerque? Haa it ever been
translated iuto English or French ? and if so, under
what name or title is it to be asked for ?
K, B. W% Elus.
Starcro?s, near Ex«ter«
A German Etymological Dictionary. — Can
you or any of jour numerous and learned corre-
epoodents recommend to me a good German etymo-
log-ical dictionary in a small compass? 1 possess
Grimm's Deutsciws Worh^rbuchj with the continua-
tions by Ilildebrand and Weigand, as far as it goes ;
but such a work is too bulky for my purpose. 1 have
bought several Cierman-English dictioDariea, but
they none of them give the German derivations.
What I want is something after the fashion of
your Chambers* English Etymohujical Dictumary^
or even Pick*8 French Etymological Dictimiaty.
If any one can recommend such a work in a small
compaaa they will greatly oblige
A FORETGNISB.
[W« are not aware of any etymological dictionary
of the German lanr^uage, with the exception of that re-
ferred to above, as comtnenceil by Grimm and continued
by Hildebratid and Welgand. German being for the
greater part an original language, it is impossible to show
its deriv'atlons in the s^me manner as fran be done with
Englkli or French, the former of which ia mainly derived
from Gothic and Latin, ihrou^'h the media of Anglo-
Saxon and French, and the latter from Latin and Celtic.
The only thing that can be effected in auch a case ia to
fibow Ihe aMnitie^ between the language in qoeation and
the other branchea of the Aryan family of tongues to
which it ii attached as a coratnon atciii. Such an un-
dertaking, moreoTfer, is one requiring immeu»c powers of
learning and research » such as cotild only have been in-
atituted by men of the calibre of Grimm. Bopp'a VeryUi-
chendle Grammatik^ and Pott'a Etymolofftxche fortckungen.
may bo ad vantageoualy consult^.]
• James MuTtiby, Trutstli \% FoTWyL\,-^.^^is^\/«AsR^
17%.
304
NOTES AND QU£BI£&
C4«&TIl.Anna»7t,
Haitdel^b ''Mbssiah.'* — At performances of
this oratorio audieocee inTuriably riee at the first
notes of the '* Hallelujah Chorus," and remain
standing until the chorus has been sung through.
Can anj of your readers supply a note as to the
origin of this custom ? F. S,
ILlrrow School : Jomi Lio^, — In the Times
oewspuper of March 2 is a brief notice of ** Harrow
School Tercentenary," in which it is stated, with
reference to this famous seminary^ that the pre-
sent is the three hundredth year since its charter
of foundation was granted to John Lyon. Is any-
thing known rwgariiing the personal history and
fnniily of thia John Lyon^ and was b<^ in any way
connected with the Lyon w^ho gave his mime to
the inn of Chancery long known as " Ljron's
Iiin '' P It occurs to me that the sign armonal of
Harrow School is identical with^ or at least some
modification of, that of the Scotch earldom of
Strsthmore; but my memory in regard to this is
not by any means distinct. What history gives
the best account of its foundation ?
Babeistsb.
[Wc fear but little is known of th** parontsge of John
Lyon, llu> ff>um1i'r of Harrow School. He resided at
PreslQU, in the parish of Harrow, in tlie coiiditioaf as is
said, of a ** weftUhy yeoman/' and had ccrneidcrablci
landed property, acquired by his own industry. Ac-
cording to Im monumenljii bmsa ho died 0«t, 8, 1692.
No wilt nor a<imini2«tration of hh e^cts biB been found
4dttii!r in the Prerof^ntive Cnurt cjf Canterbury or in the
Bishop of London^H office. His widow, iloaD. washarM,
according to the register, Aug. 30, 1608, Their only
child t Zncliarr, wam btuied May 25, 16B3. The lotters
r>iitent for the endowment of the school were procured by
Lyon 13 Kliz. 1571, It baa been conjectured, with wme
probnbiiity, that a kinsman of the founder of Hnrrow
School was John Lyon (son of Th<iiims Lyon of Perj*-
fariM>r Pirivide), ** a citizen of credit and n^nown/^a
mem lor of the Gr^^era' Company, tShcrifl' in 1550, and
Lofil Mayor in 15M. During his shrievalty he had a
grant of arm b^ viz. Azure a fess or, charged with a lion
paaaont between two cinquefoilii gul&s between three
p1ates» each charged with a griMn'a head enued sable*
Wc are indebted for tbeae pardaulars to two interestiof?
pAjpera in the Harrv/w Gazette of March^ 1861, one signed
*' L./* [Geori^e Edward Long, Esci.]> and the other with
the familiar initial*^ *' J. (J* N," For the historj- of Harrow
School constik C'arli»>le^a Kndotttd Grammar' SchfutiM, ed,
1818, ii. 12iV1(U ; The HUtory of the GAieffe* of Win-
cktgt*^r^ Eton, Ilarn^w, &c^ cd. IHlG, 4to; and Howard
Staunton's Great Schor^h nf EntfUmdy 186.5» 8vo, pp.302'
M9. — Lyon'« iim, Holywell Street* waa anciently a com-
mon inn of the si^^a of the Lion {feiift Un), king of beaata.]
HoGARTii RooK*rLATKa.— Will any correspond-
ent of voura t€41 me what are the charactormticd
of the Dook*platea which are J^aid to have been
engraved by IIo|riirth ? I believe that he executed
8ome for John Wilke« and I feat on WiJkefl; but
what are the means of ideotitieation ? Also, what
others did he engrave ? Perhaps your learned cor-
reapondents J. G. Xichoi^, Efiq, or Da, IIowabD;
both of whom are well-known experts in heraldry
^nd book'pIateSf can tell me. G, ATKi»ao«.
Lord Jebt90li>sr ob Yxbtboldsi. — Could j
inform me where I could meet with
of the lands held by Lord JertBolder or Ycrtaolte^
in Scotland P He endgtated to France with th6
king^ James IL^ for the Catholic reLigioa in of
about the y^ear 1689, He waa Lord of Kngiiad.
and after being in France he went and estAbu^hM
himself in Antwerp, where he remained tod
married himself witli Miea Lathomver of Dender-
monde (Belgium); he then changed his name^
and took that of De Hejder, and had ierm
children. Gitstats Hsitvzk.
Ret. Timotht Lee: Ackwobth CitnicB.— li
there any monumental inscnption in Ackwortii
church, near Pontefract, to Kev. Timothy Lee
and bis wife Penelope, who were living th'erexB
the middle of the laat century ? C. D. C
MoTTTAGU QuEKTES. — ^Information is reqnoBked
re^tpecting some memoirs said to have been pob-
lished by a Lady Montagu, wife of one <m die
Visoounts Montagu, of Cowdray and Battle Abbey,
Sussex. Also, whether the cTeet or badge bonM
by Sir Anthony Browne, Great Standard fieareriif
Lnglaod (tatberof the first Viscount) was a Waek
greyhound ? C. L. W*;
Priory of St. Ethernan, — I shall feel ex
ingly obliged by your permitting me to use y<Wf
columns in clearing up an anachronism. I i^
engaged in ** A Sketch of the Religious Hotti
of England aod Wales/' and have met with (
difEcuity which I beg to propofie t<> your ivadsi
for solution. During the reign of David h i
Scotland, the priory of St. Etheman in the lilotf
May was given by that sovereign to the abbey of
Reading; but during the rule of Abbot deBur.'li-
gate (according to Cotes) it was alienated oiifi - •'i
to Bishop de Lamberton of St. Andrews* F y\f
Burgligate wa« Abbot of Reading fnnm lH^'^tr-
1287, and Bishop Lamberton was not c« inst^cmtcd
till 1208. Did the transfer of May tak*:* pljic»
during the episcopate of Bii?hop Frazer or BishQ|
Gamelin, or Bishop Wishart (all of whom
contemporaries of Abbot do Burghgate), (
it during the reign of his successor. Abbot ds
5!ede, who found the abbey of Heading m
ebtf and thifi is by no means improbable* «s1
succeeded in liquidating the debt I know f^
Bishop Wishart witnessed two charters
episcopacv^ — (1) of a grant of a piece of 1
Patrick £arl of Dunbar to God and thesaintjrf
the lalo of May, and the monks there scrvlBf
God ; itnd (2 J a grant of a cow yearly to the laros
monks by the same nobleman/but w« also hikti
an injunction from Bibhop de Lambertm onl«riof
the prior of St. Etheraan to pay sixteen matb
annually to the Prior of St Andrews, which ^i <»5
been previously paid to its former aupsnor, in
4^aVlL ApBtL«/7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
305
MsTBiOiU. VnasioKg of the Psalms,— Can any
ETespondent tell me wlio wiota tlie fr>llowing
tiiUA " On the Versions " ? I found them on the
flj-leaf of an old Greek Teitament and Prayer-
book : Intended apparenUj aa a kind of reli.^b
after " The Whole booke of PsalmeB : Collected
into Eojcrlifih Metre^ with apt Notes to sing them
withall'*;—
** Wben Ui« Royal Psalmist atntng his f^U\ea Lyre,
God smiled apon him and he Aung with fire ;
The Voice of Mtuic knt sublime r aid
To breathing tiioughta lo biirniag words arrayed,
O what a faU is here whea Brady pnlms
Hit limping dosgrd off for David*8 P^ma t
All «in alike ; uie eame dall acrannel jf rates
1q Thomaa Stemhold'e as in Nabum Tate's.
One with crude baldnean aeta the teeth on edge.
One creeps meandering girt with slimy sedge ;
Unmeaning platitudes the sense impede,
A^ »iut(^iih riven with the DiOiionie wae4«
Shall w« who boast of Intelleat refiaad,
Of iocifll progfc^ nad the roareh of mladf
Still tiHt' Au> 1j jargon la Jehovah's praise.
And shiat' ia any bat rdifjious lays?
And shall men retrospect in time to corae*
And own that with us aacrfd song was damb?|"
T, Felion Falkkke,
PuTTUfo TO Death bt Tohtitre for imputbb
* BxKBST. — What executions of this kind^ by formal
' WBnTOment from the church to "the secular
r^ recorded bet^-een the period of the per-
'=« by tlie Tlomaii emperors and the insti-
^^^ inquisition by Gregory IX. about
that of AmoM of Brescia, who was
1 <iver by Adrian IV, our coutimTiuin, to
1 go\remor of Rorae» and by liim executed,
body burnt, in 1155 ? Zktetes.
iV Emblems. — In the course of some re-
^|j "[] the year, 1839 in the parish church
of duCastel, in the Island of Guernsey J
fmsifi rm*.' Iresco-pain tings were discovered on
Bte north t^ide of llio chaiicel vault. Three dis-
tiiCt subjects ore depicted. The one nearest the
•Item window is either the Last Supper or the
■ipper in the bouse of Simon the leper ; probably
ftt latter is Intended, as there are traces of a
with long hair lying" at the feet of the
dour. A ilat vault-rib separates this from the
•tit picture, which is a representation of the
Btedisival legt^Dd known as ** Le fabliau des troia
Biorts et des trois Tife." On the vault-rib itself a
tt&gle figure ia depicted, probably some saint or
Oirtyr. The figure is attired in a hmg dark- blue
Wbe, with a close-fitting white cowi and tippet,
bam ihe back of which, over the right shoulder,
Baaga a red lappet : this may be intended to re-
pr60eut blood. The ripfht hand, which has somo-
iHng like a maniple depending from it, holds a
flftffon piloted yellow, toe left a chalice coloured
tm. Across the neck is laid a huffe hatchet^ the
OtAd of which ib arer the right sho aider of the
figure, and is painted blue, with stains of red
towards the edge. There is no nimbus round the
head. Do these emblems aflbrd any clue as to
the person intended to be represente'd ? A great
authority in matters of ancient costume, the lato
Colonel Hamilton Smith, to whom I sent sketches
of these paintings, pronounced them to be of the
first quarter of the thirteenth century.
EdoAK ALLcCtTLLOCH.
Guemsoy.
Serhon of St. Eloy, or ELioirrs. — Dr. Malt-
land's readers will remember the famous sermon
of St Eloy, which was so atrangely misrepre-
sented by Robertson. Has any English transla-
tion of this sermon ever been published ?
C. D. C»
Sew ELL.— Wanted the nnrentage of Sir Thomas
Sewell, Master of the Rolls, and that of his iSrst
wife Miss Heath(?). Y. S. M.
[It iipptMrs from that compendious storehouse of leeal
biography, Ffvs^'s BiugmphicHl DicHouarjf of the Jmt^$9
of England^ tluit Tljoina.** Sewell was the son of Thomas
Scwell of Wiist Ham, Es^ex; and hia first wife was
Catherine, dflughter of Thoma* Deaths Esq. of Staasted
Hountfiicfaet, in the same u^iuotv. Mr. Foas qoote<« among
other aothoritit-*, *♦ N. & Q." H S. vii. 383, 521, 621; ix.
86; 2-^S.x.3%.]
Webcks* — Wanted, 1. Name and publisher of
the book giving an account of the wreck of the
Anson about Christmas, 1807, on the bar near
Porthleven, Cornwall,
2. Any details, &c., connected with the wreck
of the Suaan aud Rebecca transport lost on Gun-
wakoe Rocks, about the same date, on her return
from Buenos Ayres with the 7th Dragoons, part
of General Whitelock^s artny. T. H. B.
iThe L(f»» of the Anmn Frifjate on Dec, 28, 18o7, with
a plate, wuh publislied by Tbomous Tegg, 111, Cbcapeidc,
flbiUit the year 1810, 12mo. Consult n\sii NamUitc$ of
Shipwrecktt of the Rnyni Kartf It^tween I70"i anii IH-IO, by
W, 0. S. Gilly, Lond. 1850. «vo, pp. 12(3-135. We cannot
discover any deLiiU of the wrei^k of the buaan and
Eebecciu]
BtpTtr^,
OllBRE: BOSTON.
(4^ S. Til 35, 167.)
Your correspondent Z. Z., under the heading
" Ombre/^ inquires ** what was the game of Bos-
ton ? " Boston, as 1 have seen it played (I believe
there are varieties)^ is a game standing midway
between whist and quadrille. Four players hold
thirteen cards each, the value of tlie cards being
as at whist. The suits are arranged in an order
of value, diamonds being the highest. The simple
form of the game is culled ** Boston," or ** Ask
and Answer.*' The eldest hand, t^i Iwlvcs^V^issi.^
the next eldest «n^ so oti/\1 \l^ ^fe^^ V^ ^sfs^.-vDAieA
fiTe tricks— a cexUm amt, Wva% \T\im\«r— ^^ ^^
J
306
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'>S.VII. Anm.^'n.
L the,
posea*' in tliat luit, Anj other player able to
make three tricks in the same euit answers hioif
and if nothing higher ia declared, the game pro-
ceeds, the two being^ bound to make eight tricks,
and the play being as at whist, except that the
partners are not necesaaril? opposite *!ach other.
A proposal in a hij^her BUit puts out a previoua
" aak and answer " in a lower* Honours and extra
tricks are counted after a prescribed acale. If
there is no answerer^ the proposer ia bound to play
alone agaioat the three others, and to make his
fire tricks.
If a player sees that ho can make six tricks
playing- alone» he declares a '* little independence ^*
in any euit, or a " great independence if ho can
make eight. A "little independence" puts out
an " ask and answer,*' and is put out itself hy a
"great independence." In these cases also one
plays alone against the other three^thc suit named
Deing trumps* Of courso a player playiog alone
receives or pays the stake throe times over to the
other players, the stalce being arranged on a gra-
duatea acale according to the value of the suits.
But the most interesting variety of the game ia
the ** misi'^re," A player mavchalleng^e the other
three to make him win a trick, in which cnse he
declares a *^ mifi^re.*' A declared " mis^re " puts
out any independence whatever, and in playing
for the ** mis6re " there are no trumps, the suit
declared in merely determining the amount of the
stake. A mis^re can only be put out by declar-
ing a stem, i. e. that a certain suit being' trumps,
the declarer will win thirteen tricks* As the
game is sometimes played* a ^* petite mig^ro "
may be declared, in which case the nlayer de-
clares that he will make mm trick and no more.
A little niis^re puta out a little independcDcei
but not a great one.
Tho origin of the name " Boston '" mny be in-
teresting to Z. Z, The Comte de Sii^gur, in his
M^moireSf ou Soiwenir9 et Anecdotes , i. 77 (Srd
edit), spealdng of the interest taken among the
company assembled at Spa in the success of the
Americana in the early days of the war of inde-
pendence, writes : —
" L*iiiiuiTection am^ricaine pdt partoat comme utig
mode: 1© aiviiiit jett nnglaia, k wiak, ae vit tout-k-coup
rerapUcd daii« toua lea aafcins par un jeu non tnoins gra%'e
qu'on nomma h botton. Ce mouvement, quoiqnil aembla
bien \6gQT, etait un notabk pr^aage des gTAadi>s ocmvnl-
pIoim ftuxqucHea le moiir^ii en tier ne devait pas tarder k
ctrolivr^^utjYtais bien loin d'etre Is aeul dont le cocnr
alors poJpitAt an bruit du i^veil naiflsant de la libertrf^
ctiercbant k secouer le joug du poavoir arbitrairfi/*
I do not wi.'^h to impugn this heroic origin for
the game, but if less mvmd than whist, boston
is also, me tedtj moitiM grave. The vafious com-
bijjfltions 1 have endeavoured to describe make
the game a very UYely, not to esy a noisy, one.
C. X. U
The following deacription of the game oComJfate
is drawn from the eighth edition of the CamfiieM
Game$tcr f which devotes no lesi than eighty-eigkt
pages to tne game), and ia confirmed and supple-
mented by information from other sonrcet : —
Ombre is an improvement on the Spanish game
of " Primero," and derives its name from the Sp&niBh
Ei Hombre — The Man—in aUusion to the thought
and attention required, or perhaps referring to Urn
who undertakes to play the game against the rest
of the gamesters. Ombre may be played by two,
by three, by four, or by five, Ombn? by tkrw
(the favourite game) was played w^itb forty cirfi^
the eights, niues^ and tens being thrown otit
Ombre packs were sold for the parpose. The eaidf
counted in tbeir natural sequence in spades &nd
cluha, the two black acea being always trusipa
In hearts and diamonds king, queen, and koii^
kept their natural rank, but of the ordinary ei '
the lowest in number counted highest.
To find the dealer, give one card round, and c
to bank. Whoever has the highest card of In
suit deals. The dealer deals from right to I
instead of from left to right, as in all otuer gune(
and the players play in like manner* Nin« i
are dealt to each player, three and thres ]
tlie remaining thirteen from the bank.
dealing, it none thinks himself strong enough tJl
attempt for the stake, all pass, and contribute \A I
the former stake, then dfeal again. WhoeTfrj
finally attempts is called the ** ombre/* and plajf I
against the other two j the winner must tak«i 0fl
tricks ^ or four when the other five are dividwL
Ombre chooses whit^h suit shall be
but it must be borne in mind the ace of «p
ia always first trump, or Spadille ; the ace <
always third trump, and is called Basi
second trump is always the worst card of
suit in its natural order^that is, the seven ini
and the deuce in black suits, and is csdledManlU
If either of the red suits is trumps, the ace oft
suit ia fourth trump, and called Fun to.
Spadille, Manille, and Basto are called ml
dores or murderers, as they never piv© qunrttffl
it is their privilege nerer to be obli^d to folk
inferior trumps — as, suppose I hold Basto and I
other trump, and king of trumps is led, I
not follow -with Basto, but may renounce
and play from another suit; but it must
deferenc« to its superiors, and come out if
dille or Manille are Jed.
Ombre may, if he will, discard any number of J
bis hand he chooses in exchange for an ^vllj
number from the bank, as also may the other t
or he may trust to his own hand, which ia i
Sans Prondro. If ombre fails he is bestad
if one of the defender* of the staka winp i
tricks than he, he is said to win Codille, and I
up the stake the ombre played for.
^u«diO\«)^ ^mhtQ by four, was inrentdd by tbtl
4'^S. VII. ApjiiLft.^iO
NOTES AND QUERIEa
307
French,* and differt from the former game in
biTing ttU the forty carda dealt out — to each per-
son ten, twice three and once four.
In Qiiintille, or ombro by five, each person has
ei^bt cftidB dealt bim. There is no marking at
ombre. Every deal decides the game.
JOIIK W. FOHD,
MOUKKIXG, OR BLACK-EDGED WRITING
PAPER.
(4**' S. vii. 209.)
W. n* S. 19 not quite correct in his conjectures
m to the time when black-edged quarto-aized
pnper came into use. He is not aware that there
WM any before IB40. But I have a distinct
ncoIlectioQ of quarto letter paper with black
'je^ many years before 1840, liiough I cannot
ite the eJtact time of ita introduction. I can,
ever, produce letters written on abeeta of
■Qiito «^e, with black -edged borders, in 18*16 and
W^. The maker of that piiper in 1 836 was
i!^y, London, There is no date in the water-
. but we may fairly conclude that the Da|)er
been made a year or two earlier thanJB^iC.
It water-mark on the paper of 1837 ie *' Kich**
:onjor, Chaiford Mills.** It might perhapa be
iWrtained on inquiry, how soon either or both
,Y.L _ II. ^ Y^^^ b«gun to supply bliick-edged
I [ipears, at least, that the manu-
L.^,.- »v.^ ii-L confined to any particular plftces.
Jadecd I ara persuaded that the use of such paper
hd become common many years earlier.
Xor do I consider that the use of note paper
wi5 *' . i-f.nnected as W. H. S. supposes, with the
• nt of the penny postage, or rather the
t" 1 of weight for quantity of paper, as
Ibe jtguJating principle of charge. The fixat re-
UsadoD of the postage took place on December 5,
1530^ when a uniform rate of fourpenc© waa fixed
far weight under half an ounce: then on Janu-
tfy 10, 1840, the rate was made a penny for the
Mine wtight, which has continued ever since.
Belbre the^e changes, letters were moat unequally
dttiged. If a letter was on a single sheet or piece
' pap^, no matter how large, it was charged
' ' with single postage; but if it contained any
ScBure, however ismall, it was charged double.
'i in thoae days Members of Parliament had the
jitiJege of franking ten letters of any weight
on ounce, and of receiving fifteen letters
> free under that weight. So the custom pre-
billed of tearing down a sheet of letter paper,
folding one haK of it to note site, to write upon,
and encloaing it in the other half, which served
• ** Who." layi the Compleat Gametier^ '* ever fond of
&07c)tv AO<i ^qoftlly fickle in their dresa and dlversionB,
kiV9 taocoJAicd mreral scyous (#{e) upon the SpanJah
laoL'*
for the envelope. This was the real origin of note
paper and euvelopes, which I remember many
years before the peony postage.
The French are doubtless inventive and inge-
nious, and an instance in the matter of envelopes
deaerves a record in ** N. & Q.^' Who has not been
annoyed again and again at the difficulty of opening
letters with envelopes gummed up aU along the
top, as if they never were to be opened ? I re-
ceived about a year ago from France some packets
of envel(^jim perksy as they are called, ingeniously
contrived to obviate the above inconvenience. A
thread passes along the inside of the lower port of
the envelope, with a small bead {pej-le) projecting|
out of each end. The fullowing direction uppeara
just over the sealing place of the envelope:
*'Baisftez une perle. Un lil coupe le has de Ten*
veloppe." The enclosed letter U thereby at once
set free, I enclose this communication in one of
these ingenious contrivances, which I think well
deserving of the attention of our stauoners.
F. C. H.
To asaiwt your correspondent W. TI. S. in hia
inquiry I have looked over a great mass of cor-
respondence now in my possession, from May 10,
1794.
The first letter I found sealed with black wax
was one from the Prince de Cond^ to my grand-
father, the High t Hon. William Wickham, dated
June 17, 1795.
The first letter I found written on black-bor-
dered paper was one from the Avoyer de Stei^uer
of Berne to my grandfather, dated March 31, 1795.
The paper is a^ small quarto, the black border
rather deeper than that which stationers call
'* Italian border/' carried round both sides but
not down the division.
I have found a letter from the Bucbeas of
Wurteroberg (Princess Royal of En^'-land) to my
grandmother, Um. Wickham, dated May 27, 1801,
on a sheet of letter paper with a black border a
trifle wider than the Italian border, but rather
less deep than the letter of the Avoyer de Steiguer;
it is put on the paper in the sam'e manner as in
that letter, and in both the black border ia rough
and irregular. It will be noticed that all theaa
letters are foreign. The iirst English letter with
a black border which I have come upon is one
from the Marchioness of Down shire to Mr, Wick-
ham, dated Februarv 22, 1802 : in that letter the
border, about the Italian width, goes round the
first page only of a sheet of letter paper.
It would seem from what has ^<^ne before, that
the black border is older than a mere black edge,
and was used at first very sparingly. It is certain
that whilst mournings and all trappings of woe
have gradually grown less severe^ the depth of
black bordera on 'wtitiBa ipK^^t\i5A wx^^j^v ^^&
now often see pa^gkei Iot Vv^o^% «i ^<few^, "^^
iBtek
NOTES AND QUEEIEa
[4*kaVn.AMn.i,7L
little space is loft for writing* I remember seeing
in fi shop at Marseilles, in Oct 1865 ^ a visitinff
card entirely black, with the name onlj printed
in white ! Certainly the dismal ingenuity of sta-
tiooers could no further go.
I imagine the increased depth of black borders
to bo due primarily to the stationers, and that
from TariouB causes it has found favour with
"tbe public/* William Wickham*
AthenxcutQ Club.
There is evidence of mourning or black-edc'ed
writing pnper having been employed much earlier
than your querist seems to aupposs waa the case.
In Addison's comedy of Tha J}rutnfner (Act IV.
Sc, 1) there is mention of "my lady^a mourning
paper— that is, blacked at the edgee.'' The Drum-
mer came out in 1716. W. F. Pollock.
I have in my posseaaion a letter, written on a
quarto-aized sheet of letter paper, by John fifth
Earl of Corke and Orrery, with a black border a
ouarter of an inch in depth. The letter is dated
Jan. 12. 1759. Lord Corke's second wife had
died in November, 17o8. Ehmund M. BorLE.
Kock Woodi Torquay.
ADAM DE ORLETON.
(4^ S. vii. m, 15L)
The last line of my communication to « N. & Q."
should rather have been readily *Meduced" than
** asct^rlained *' by those who felt iuterested in the
subject, I did not intend to suggest that I poa-
flessod any source of information which was not
common to every other intjuirer; but 1 submit
that history, as we know it, disoloeea sufficient
facta to fully juatify my declaration^ that Adam de
t Jrloton had nothing whatever to do with the
Latin misaive relied on to his prej udice by Ma,
Adam de Orleton has in turns been styled ** an
Achitophel^" **an artful and unprincipled church-
man," *' a pitiless traitor," *' a mmiar tiend,*' and
other hard namea ; but despite these appellationfl,
when judged by the standard of truth, and con-
sidered in reference to the eventful and troubled
times in which he lived, it will be found that he
merely proved himself to immeasurably surpass
all hjjj t-timpeera, not only as a mivn of consum-
mate ability, but as one absolutely superior to
ail the influences by which he was surrounded,
Endowed by n|^ure with the keenest no were of
perception, iic^nd prudence — indomitable in his
purpose, and self-reliant to the last degree-
Adam de Orleton was enabled to turn every phase
of public and political existence to his own ad-
rmttngo, ai/d, notwithstaudiog he lived in that
Jaomentous period of England^a laietoty ^\ien
"every man*B life bung at his girdle/' he never-
theless contrived to hold his own without ^.'f• t-
ence to whichever party was for the moment in
the ascendant ; and deenite the power and mtdtm
of his numerous enemies^ be c^ed a long aed
active existence as the ooeamnt of one of tiM
most coveted aeea in the kingdonL
It has been alleged that he wrote to Sir Joba
Maltravera and Sir Thomas Gumey, at Berkclflf
Castle, urging them to increase the mlserief of
their royal prisoner ; and to hU pen is incorrec^
ascribed the repetition of those well-known Latin
lines referred to by Ma. Tbw, but which are (b-
dared to have been written at a long anterior
date by an archbishop of Strimonium, with Icf«j^
enoe to Gertrude Queen of Hungary.
Bearing in mind this character of Orleton, l&i
his policy at this period of his life, it aeemi to
me to be incredible, even to the extent of being
impossible, that he couJd have written either tw
supposed letter or the Latin double efvtendrf. To
have done so would have been to have plidi
himself irrevocably and hopelessly in the poWB
of the kinc-'s raurtferera and of those who directeS
the foul deed, and to have subiected himselfi tt
any moment, to certain and condign punishmflnti
about the most improbable course so subtle I
diplomatist m Orleton undoubtedly ^v «- '^^
havo adopted. Contrast that charg
fact that, at the veiy moment of Edw.:
der at Berkeley Castle (Sept, 22, 1327),
de Orleton was at \'alencienne3 at the «
the Count of IlainauU, selecting a brid** for
murdered king*s &on. Add to that unii^miJhif
truth that Orleton, then Bishop of Her
in the course of the same month of >
consecrated by the pope "Lord Bishop ui V -
cester'*; that he continued to hold thnt n<'- "
spite of tho opposition of the queen- t
her imwortby favourite; that he sti
the favour of Ed%vard lH., and in Apal, '
was appointed one of his ambassadors to 1 ; i
for the purpose of demanding the crown of liiit
country in Edward's behalf j that, by a &»
tinuation of the royal favour, he was in ^-^
translated from Worcester to Winchester.
Farnham Castle as his princely resadenc**. <^
that he died there in July, 1345 ; — and I bi4iflT#
that from such facts it may be **readnv .l< .Tn,--.!.
or ascertained,'' that the memory of A<1
ought to be altogether free m>m n^i
blame in connection witli the deatli of Edward ILj
and that the course of conduct adopted totei
Orleton by Edward III. is equally void of
one suspicion that he reward ed* or oven inl
to do BO, a man privy to, still less direcUy PftCiMft^
mending in
father.
writing, the murder of his lojd
\ 's:vtk^%iarfMA,cx»i3i^B«^
HxirmT R Hou.
4*fcaVIL
^•TL]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
309
Mabruges of Pbifcessks (4"» S, vU, 203.) —
TxwAES lavB he caan only find three timtiiiices of
dauptteis or sisters of the reigning aovereign muT-
TT h subj ectfl. Is not t be caAe of Margaret,
Ti .iiiig^hter of Edward IIL, a fourth f* She
inarried Juhn Hastings, Earl of Pembroke. Then
aUo Joan, daughter of Edward 1., whose mar-
riage with Gilbert de Clare is recorded, married
•econdly Ralph de Monthermer. This would
iippeAT to be another case. Have ail the de-
jwendante of a royal prince or princeaa the right
to quarter royal arms P P«
Ladt GaiJcsTON's Grave in Tewin Chuech-
TAIUJ (4^^ S. Tii. 76, 128, 172, 273.)— It seems
atrange that, in two accounts of this tomb, one
ihould Ftate that there was a single (wA tree
''growing out of the tomb,^' and another that
*'seyea fhn trees have sprang up through the solid
tomb/* We seem to want the accurate fact of
prtmmt npjHwancef for the severi eltus within the
end 0511 re of a single tomb would be a curiosity
ir of any legend. If the common elm
1 peittrin, or sttbcrosa} be intended, there
iiVd been elm trees formerly planted in the
vard — •caona from which roust have pene-
\m\ beneath the tomb, as tbi^ tree
iim (*eed naturally in England;
i^tnir tiic ^ " nf the a?ih, ^lown
*l»out 1>Y V. ite wherever they
^lUX I and i nine fiftjii at^ii xrees growing within
Mglected tombs in seveml country churchyards.
kUw years since I noticed an altar tomb in the
tfcoichipard of Perivale, Middlesex, within the
iioo rails surrounding which had epruiig up two
fcawthoms, a tall ash tree, and a scrubby elm,
Willi a fiHMi'f' of brambles all round the railing,
about the trunks of the trees*
1 made out the date of the tomb,
(lat itcommemoratt'd Elizabeth Colle-
i.'t of Sir Peter Colleton, Bart., ** and by
[.ointment buried here." The appear-
vegetation was so remarkable that I
muilt^ a . J.ftch of it, and a few more years I should
think wr.iild entirely hide all but the bulging
1 about the tomb. May I ask if any-
^ WD about this baronet's daughter, and
ide the " itppointment " to be buried
' Curiously enough, there Is no record
'' ' ^:'-- ' which it would thus appear
•f sled.
1 .i.ir. -uliject of vegetation sponta-
self-sown rimng on or over tombs, I
» T It at in the chancel of Kempaey
orcester, is the monument with
fjlitf'f'd against the north wall of
ICnt., who died when high
liire in 1620, ** solemnly in-
mentation/' and by some
Kurse^chesUmt has fozcad lis
itrvdl
way through the wall from the churchyard, and
its digitated kares now canopy the effigy of the
knight in a very elegant manner, and have a
curious appearance within the church.
EnwiH LsBS*
Green Hill Summit, Worcester.
[The caiio of Piinvole churcbyiurd has been alreadj^
mentioned, gee p. 172; anil iho three elm-trees springing
from Kyrle*A [m3W i» EosA church are well known to aU
tooriata. — Eo.]
TffE Whttk Towke (4'»» S. vii. 211.)— In reply
to RoMA3T I would remark, 1. The Roman campag
were merely earthworks, strengthened sometinu
by pnlisades; tmd the site of^the Tower bein^
a decided mound or eminence, amounting probably
to a hiU originally, there seems no reason whj
the Romans should not haye regarded it as
hold or citadel, quite sufficient to contain a gar*^
risen competent to overawe ancient London.
2. The White Tower never could have been
built under two or three years* time, at the least. ,
3. The supply of water &om the Thames muslj
always have been available for the inhabitants i
the Tower, without any need of a well; sincfl^
the river had free influx into the old ditch, and
came also under the arch at Traitors^ Gate until
some thirty-five years ago.
St. John's Chapel, on the second floor of the
White Tower, is one of the finest and simplest
specimens eidsting of Norman architecture, and
from its miusdvo proportions must have been aa
integral portion of the original structure, in thfl
style and form of which nothing Rc»man can be
traced. The exterior having been unfortunately
distigured by Sir Christopher Wren, aflbrds no
criterion, but there is nothing Roman in the
character of the Tower.
4. Whether or no the TcjLius MoffhiMS contains
evidence of Gundulph'shand in the White Tower,
it seems admitted that he built Rochester Castle,
and that be was the great military builder of his
day. Tradition has always aflcrilbed the White
Tower to Lim, and there seems no o&use for
doubting it.
5. The composition of Roman mortar depended
probably on the materials at hand, but no doubt
they used great care and skill in preparing it.
Blood would be a very bad and temporary ingre-
dient for tempering mortar. It may be ioubtedl
whether the ** preparation " of the Tower for the
Conqueror's habitation did not mean interior
fwrangemeuts, hangings, bedding, kitcheufl, and
domestic objecta, rather than any sudden improve-
ment of the defences.
The descrijition of the Tower, as " washed 1
the Thames when the tide rose,*' need by no i
apply to the actual base of the White Tower J
which stands a long way bade. When the ditch
of a fortress is filled from a river lIowin^5j«i«*.^X^
i# iiior& eompjon l\i«ai \iw4
NOTES AND QUEEIEa
[4*ks.VIL AfklI
*' Ita walls are waalied by 8ucli or such a river,"
¥Lnd that waa most likely the way ia whrch the
Tower waa alluded to. Be H.
f'Tns Hob is toe Wbll" (4^^ S. til 201,
220,) — John Laguerre, son of Louia, whom Pope
immortal iaed in versa —
** Where iiprAwl the saints of Verno and Laguem**"
engraved a set of prints of ** Hob in the Well," a
copy of which ia at Stanford Court, and attached
to each nrint some ludicrous verses in Somerset-
shire dialect, possibly veiy popular in their day.
THOa, E. Wl>'>^tKQTON.
Stftaford Court, Worcester,
I have heard it suggested that this alehouse
sign at Ljnu was the u&me of a chamcter ia some
popular play. Hob was a nickname foruied from
Kobert, and conveyed the idea of it-? owner bein^ a
country clown (Lrower^s Patromjmica lirikmnica).
In Larwood and Hotten'g Ilistonj of Signlioarch
(third edition), the name of this sign is said to
be borrowed from an old nursery fable. If this ia
rl^'ht, can any reader of '* N, & Q." give a version
of the fable, or the name of any books where it is
to he found ? S, E. L.
hynn.
K, L.^ Kind's Lynn, is perhaps aware that
'^ Hob in the Well *' is the name of an old ballad-
opera, which was a popular favourite iu the last
century. In country inns we frequently find a
set of comic pictures representing the various events
of the piece. An amRteur actor (Mr. Richard
Garrs ol Grassington), who many years ago emi*
grated to America, used to boast of bis perl or m-
ance of Hob, and he would occasljually volunteer
a ♦* recitation *' of some favourite passage,
Stephen Jacksox.
Abms or Flemish Famiues {A}^ S. vii. IL)—
Lablice will find such a work in the Royal
Library, Brusaela. Sp.
CooKEs: Cookf^set: Cooke (4*^ S. vii, IL) —
Your correspondent will find a notice of tho
second name in Mtimortala of the Surname Archer»
Sp.
Qtjotatiok (4** S, iv. 175,)—
" Friend a parr,
*Ti5 the survivor diira."
To he found at the end of Night V, of Young's
Mffht Thoughts, T. P. R
A SpiTTEJf Laibd (4**' S. vii. 100.)— The anec-
dote related by S. L, is somewhat differently told
by Dr, Robert Chambers (Picture of Scotland^
L 237), The duchess is there said to have
** called out in her usual lusty way to the coach-
man to drive with all his might, ^elae Tarn o*
CJoeft'bu Wf^ she exclaimed, ' will get in before us
nnd lick the butter off our bread.' ** Tho dui&ft'a . ^
obseiratian being: "'Why, my Lady I)ue\iftBa,\ * GTiiVa^^^Ta»si«l^tm, mcias* whirl wimL
let me tell you this eentleman's aocestdr wm
Knight of Closehurn, while mine was only Gude-
man of Drumlanrig I ' "
But I doubt the truth of either vei^ioD. The
first Douglas of Drumlanrig was a basUird son of
the doughty earl who fell at Otterboume, and he
had obtained this important barony before but
father's death : for, on Dec. 5, 1389. he wsi
guaranteed in its possession by a < V
grandmother, the Countess of D
and her second husband Sir Jouu o^mlu' n ks
Swinion (Drumlanrig Charters); and, as **Sir"
William Douglas of Drumlanrig, he obtained s
very remarkable charter from King James L|
while this prince was a state prisoner in Englaoi
It is dated at Croydon last of November 1413;
and hologrepb of the king, and confirujH to Sir
William all his lands in Scotland, vh. I
Hawick, and S el k irk ( Q.ueensberry C h a i -
see art. ** Hawick** in Oruj. Par, Scott r i v i ..\
where there is a very interesting account ■! n;
William's successors and their tenure of ihit
barony from the crown. As the term *''gud»tD»a'^
was never applied i» the owner of a barony or hold-
ing under the sovereign^ which the^e Douglniifii
were ah oii^ine, the anecdote, like many simHif
tradition P, must he incorrectly given. At tb»
same time the Kirkpatricks were undoubtedly rf
much older standing tn Dumfriesshire, dating mwi»
the twelfth or thirteenth century ; and etpn i
magnate like the Duke of Queensbenry roigH
without detracting trom bis own iniportanoe^
mildly rebuke the lady duchess by telling to
that there were Knights of Closeburn long beto
there wa9 a Laird of Drumlanrig,
ANGLD-SeOTtft.
" Apiiks Moi LE DiLiroB'* (4*'' S. vii. 1^8.)-
I find ia Ed. Foumier's L Esprit dansrHitft^f- -
^* Aprtt noyjt U dflvgt! disait, mSme dnns
gmnde pro»peritd, madAino de Potnpftdotir {En>i^
mnrquae de Pompadour^ en t£te des Memoiret dt mt*
dams du Haunet, 1824, io-8iro, p. xlx), qui Tw/ii
poind re dt^a lout au laiD, Ik rborizon do la rayafiU,ll
^raio * rifvulutionnaire, Cette parole de noneb^ltti^
c\Tiigmo dflni la prnpb^tk a 4te sou rent t/pC'tf ft
chaque fois on Ta mbe hut le cuuipe dtj Louis XV
<ftttit si bien le mot, rexprcsaion de oe r^igne at
jour, qu^on pensait quelfi roi bten aime poiivait scui i i-v^i
dite. Fersoune no vit mieux que lui, qui etait au 900* 1
P.A.L
met, vcnir do loin cc gratid orage.'*
FimwEsa Abbey ajxh the CHKiaAX S - '^^
(4*'* S. vii. 74.) — The Coucher Book of thi-
has long been known to the council of th
ham Society ; but it is not, as A. £. L. coi
in the possession of the Duke of Devonehii'
information contained in *^ detached paicbmena '
in the duke's muniment room at Holker, »apjx«e4
to be fragments of the Fumeaa Qoiicher Book,
«»8.VIl. A»«il8,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
3U
I
will probjibly be found to liRve been uiilifled by
Bufrdale, West, and Beck. The oriirinal toIuihg
U in tbe Record Office, And is briefly named io
the ** Deputy- Keeper's XXJttb Report," p. 4. It
may interest yrmr corpe«pondeDt to know that it
con'^igta of 580 pages of vellum » and that the
writin)^ is not later than the fourteenth century.
The first portion consistB of the chartularj^, and
the latter of popes* bulls granting privilepea to
the abbey, and the expense of a transcript of the
entire volume would amount to 07/, 13«., which
i« beyond the means of the Chetham Society.
The cost of obtaining- the tmn script** of the *' Rojal
Commissioners' Reports of tin? Lancashire Chan-
tries," printed by the Chetha* Society in 1862,
and reierred to by A, E. L., was defrayed by ft
few personal MeDoe of the editor, and not by the
ftociety. F. R. R.
Lakcashtbe WiTciTEs (P^ S, vii. 237.)^!
imagine the jarallants of all Enplish counties Bpeak
of, and maybe toast, the ladies as witches. In
my county I have often heard a eong the chorus
of which I give : —
•* They are handome, they are charming,
Tbey are lovely, gay, and fair :
The'prettieat prln in EnKlr^nd are—
The lEjirla of Derbyabiro,"
The last two linea frec^uently given as a toaat,
Tho8. Ratclipfb,
*'A MoiTsrBTJB, MoNsiBm A. B/' (4**' S. vii.
U<^.) — I cannot agree with Mr. FRANCisauE-
ilicirKL, though I take him to be a Frenchman,
U to hh interpretation of this matter. Simr does
Hot, find never did mean, mon»ei(jneur. All the
"1 iDStruments, books, and novels,
rongest distinction between them.
ici ■ n |it_iinou 18 a mere form of respect, as if we
t^ere to write —
" To the Gentleman,
Mr. A. 11"
Mmtunter^ if at all a recognised word (which I
i<mtrt)» miidt be a substantive of itself, made from
mmitu, Ti'it^ a termination indicBting a man, nad
iiilor*s word. The bishop was alwavs
f% however the form of the word mijrht
nee sake be abridged (as **M. S*""J
Mb, Michel would have some ap-
Nuance of support for bis theory by referring to
[*ILioweur*^ a^the title given to the eldest aon
of th? king or his heir (apparent or presumptive),
rt this was one of the conveniences of ootlTt
Bch : for Mmi Seifpiettr would aptly designate
kinr himself, while Mmifiettr might well be
iM prince^ and would be then employed
ilent to the Scotch **The Master," or
i^r Jot in of address to a prince of the blood as
n" The sorereigQ is " Sire/' C. C-
•OL11A8TER AbHOAD IIT StAFFOBD-
._. , . -.. ril 1*21, 180.)— The Orst atory, aa
I heard it at Stourbridge in 1855, waa:— Two
colliers reading a notice that the new church
would be consecrated by the biithop. ** VVhat'S a
bishop, Jem ? " " Dunno, but I'll lay a shilHn as
our Rose pins im, whatever un is,'*
The Lye Waste is a common near Stourbridge.
Its population then was rery rough, and ha*l
grown up without instruction or police. From
neglect of the lord of the manor many freeholders
had obtained their estates by occupation, without
recognising his rights, for twentv years. Those
who had not completed their time were very
iealnus of strangers, whom they suspected to bo
lawyers looking out for defective titles. I waa
told that if I went there alone I might bear,
'* Dost knaw on, Jem ?" " Naa.** " Hull a stun at
un then.^' Accompanied by one who was known
to the natives, and not a lawyer* I looked at them
and the place, and was not molested. I did not
admire either. Probably both are now improved.
Dining here about twenty yearfl ago with Leech,
Albert Smith, and Hamilton Reynolds, I told
these stories as above, and Leech said he could
make something of them. lie did so in Ftmch,
I am the only survivor of the party, but I men-
tion the names of my fri en da as mea of extenBive
knowledge in facHiis^ to whom the stories then
were new, I said nothing that would have war-
ranted Punch in putting ** Fact.''
Fiixnopzme.
Gftirick Club,
How far the schoolmaster goes abroad in Lan-
cashire and an instance of ** filial piety ^^ may W
seen in a story which, I believe, is not an '♦old!
joke,'* and which waa related as known to my
informant A man who had a buli-terrier pup
went out with his son to blood it, which ia, I sup-
pose, to make it draw and taste the blood of some
wild animah They came to a hedge, when the
father took one side and the son and tbe dog the
other. As they found nothing, the father put hia
head to tho ground, and imitated the noise of ,
same creature. The dog was unexpectedly through
the hedge in an instant, and fastened on the maa'a
noie. The atiectionate son seeing it, was greatly
excited, and called out, ^* Bide it, feytherl bide
it! it'll bee th* makkin o' th' pup.'* Ellcbb,
Craven,
'*Thb Straight Gatb and Naubow Wjit"
(4*^ 8. vii. dS.) — A hundred years hence, when the
printer's devil is dead and buried, " N. & Q." will,
I fear, unless you, Mr, Editir, enter your timely
protest, be cited as an authority for spelling
«' strait ""struight.'' C, S.
The Priory op CotDHvoiUM (4**» S. vii. 187.)
Cant's Kirk is the appellation given by fishermen
to a church in Aberdeen (parish Pitaligo), after
the celebrated Andrew Cant, There is also Canty
Bay, a little east of North Ikrwids.. W^ 4nvxi^axii^
3ia
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«*8.VII, AFiin.8,71.1
Cant may be from BritiBli cant^ a circle^ the rim
of Bttythmg roimd. Conf. tJie Qernian name
Kant {kmUf ora, marpro, extremitas rei, orbls, cir-
cuius, anguluB ). There are, however, the French
surnames Canet, Cauot, Canut, Canty, which may
he dimiBuUires of Caun, Caime (English Cane,
Cann), doubtless the same as Caney, Cheney^
Cheeney, from the old French chime ^ modem
French chine^ an oak tree {quErcus^ quetcitti*^ quer^
mtSt q^te^nuSf questWf chime). Canty Bay may
derive its name from the Gaelic Ceann-Tathaf
head of the Tay (perhaps the original appellation
of the Forth), a name which might be given to
any river, seeing that^ etymologically^ it means
simply river. One of the chief tributaries of the
Forth above Stirling ia the Tetb, ♦. <;, the Tath
or Tay, Cant s Briage may simply mean bridge
of the Cant, L e, the Can, i. ^, Cam.
K. S. Crabjkock.
Ghray^B Iim.
Lkttrk of Edward IV. (4*»» S. vii. 220,)— It
is much to be hoped, in the interest* of history,
that the purchaser of the MS. letter purporting
to be written by Edward IV, in 1466 may act
upon the suggestion of Mr. Gairdner, and may
send the MS. to the British Museum to have the
signatures carefully examined by experts ; fur the
genuineness of this letter involves the doubt as to
whether the historical details of Hall's Ckronick
ar« as accurate as they are precise. In the mean-
while those who have not irii^pected the MS. can
only form their judgment of its value from the
internal evidence of its style ; and with all defer-
ence to Mr. <JAiRDifER,*I would ask whether
there are not expreswons in the body of the docu^
maU to excite grave suspicion of its genuineneaa P
Does he iind in any contemporary letters of un-
doubted authenticity that the Kin^ of England at
this period ever styled himself ** Retj^ia Majosta-s
nostra -^ or *' Sacra Regia Majestas/' or that the
Dnko of Milan was usually addressed in state
papers as " Excellentia Veatra " ? There is no
difticulty whatever in positively answering these
two questions to any one who has access to the
Bodleian Library, for amongst the Ashmolean
MSS. (No. 780) is preserved the letter-book of
Bishop Beckington, secretary of state to Henrj' Vf,,
which includes the forms and set phrases of his
olGcial correspondence, " colores verborum et sen-
tentiarum." The style of the Dukes of Milan, and
the mode in which they were addressed in formal
letters, will appear from the Diteumenti Dipio*
matiei lately printed from the Milanese Archives
by Signor Luigi Osio, Tewabs.
AXBAJTEY AJTD AMOKDEVrLLB (4*" S. Vll. 234.)
In answer to part of H. S. G.*s query—" Did Uve-
dale marry an heiress of Amondeville ? *' — it is
very probable one of that name did, for at the end
of tha aixteenth century the Uvedales (who&e
arms are ** Argent, a cross moUne gules." as H !?,
G« rightly supposes) are found to qi: r
(Uia) *^ Azure, a fret or,' * whether Aio < r
nott For thb statement there is the IoUowi]i|
evidence, which H, S, G. will find in the second
volume of Hutchins* Hidory of Dor$et: — In the
church of More Crichel, Dorset, appear the arnnH
riid bearings of the UvedaLes, wherein the fourth
quartering is *^Or^ a fretaswre ** (revemng the tino-
tures). And in Wirabome Minster, in the etos
county, thc-re is a very fine monument to Sir
Edmund Uvedale, who died circa 1606 (which I
myself have seen, though I did not at the time
particularly notice the quarterings), in wbict
the fifth quartering is properlv given as ** Aiure,
a fret or.*' And again, Kobert Ij vedale, writing to
the Gent. Ma^, vol. Ixxx. part ii, p, 31 (as he mom
than once did on the same subject), gives tbt
quarterings of his family as copied ixom the
church at Wykeham (the seat of the HamptUn
and elder branch), and the fourth \b there *'Aiiiii%
a fret or."
In the pedigree given by Hutrhins I can find
no mention of the name of Amondeville, though
there is a blank or two loft where a wife's mm
should come in* Neither can I in the one re-
corded by Berry in his Cow^ Oenttdogiea
Hants,
Edmondson gives, in his Qlover*^ 0\
under the head of " Frets/- ** Azure, a fret or,
Mundeviilf'^ though at the same time I
iind that he specifies the arms of Amondi
Mundevill amongst the host of others 1
pi!ed. ' J. S. Uj
JuQior Athenieuin Club,
*' Tes op an AsQm.*8 Wtsq " : WoRD^if OBW,
COTTSTABUI, ETC. (4*" 8. vii. 233.)- ^^' ""^9 1
beautiful thought is expressed by JoL
hia Life of Mrs, Qodolphin (London, .»
ing, 1848,'p. 4):—
** It would becotno n steadier band, and the peoo of i
Anfft"llfl winf^, to describe tbe life of a Siiint, who !• I
atnoD^^t those llludtnous ordcra,** _
Jajtkbt Family (4«» S. vi. 275, 8660— I •*
well acquainted with John Janney, a reliliA I
civil service servant- I have not as yet be^n »Wt
to communicate with him, btit in a shor'
shall be able to do so. In the interim aii
addiiessed to him may be forwarded to mv ai:v-
G, T. f'lrLLUL
13, Osborne Street, HaU.
G. Camphausen (4*»» S. vii. 188.;
Siret-fl valuftble work, Dictionnaire
Peintrea (2ud ed, Tarie, 1806), may be \
T, S. A. G.
** Veritas m Pttteo** (4**» S, vi. 474;
IDS.) — Diogenes Laertius records thia mjia§A
Democntus b his Life of Pyrrhic Hb* uu
(
i«»S.VILAr«i.$,'71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
313
72, 'tr*ov «i oUktf ttfifv* iv BuOm yap ft iA^fltia, Cf*
Oice^>, ActidfrmicHi^ L 13. Tiimebud in CommcfU.
remurk* ; —
*^ Cicero in LuciiUo [AcmhmicarHm, Ijbro *cctindo],
Xatnrain ai*cu«<a qu,i! in pntfuml^j veritAtem, ut ait Dl-
morritus f»rnituA abstraatrit- Simile ent illud ScneciB
N. Q» vii. 82. Jlx ad fHndym venireivr, t« 91*0 Veritas
t tMf^quam nunc in (rumma i^rra^ tt htyi munu qutcri-
YarM tunt Dcmooriti, dc. See also Fabr! Comment,
Xnm quia piissit romitera mAgni
S[)«cUrci Joris ? ftiiulo ilia cnrct.**
*1C 3 c Jiy 1 lid et G roti tw.
BrBLIOTEBCAB, CaETHAM*
KO AXD JESTmo ON Names (4'*' S. vi.
304, r>*^l ; vil 100.)— Dr. Samuel Goodenougb,
Bialiop nf Carlisle; preftched before the House of
ComniiiQS ID 1795, and before tlie House of Lords
m 1&09, Oa oue of these occasions the following
I fiofie were penned : —
•♦ Tin w«?ll-6nou(!;h thflt Goodenmigh
Before ttie iToase shontd preach ;
For sure-enough full bad-cDough
Are ihoM he haa to teach."
linea ar^ given in Xiehols^ Illw^aHom of
t, Ti. 2ol, R P. D,
ISALLirr (i^ a vi» 475, 683 ; vii. 176.) —
apf^ two places in the Isle of Man called
" l; one a small village, and the other an
They are both low-lving^ places near the
_jit. May not the word be derived from
y, M&nn for place, and sailley^ Manx for
ater ? Mokkksis,
DKBJTK Flow^ks (4*^ 8, yi. 544 ; vii. 104.)
ttgh the quotation furnished by Miss Har-
r hi to be naet with in the first volume of 77ie
y, lHOO-61, pa|?e 1-3, no one will diepute
bt to be reproduced in your pages. It is
Jy intareating^ and calls for further re-
fsm I ID error in supposing: that the
! to is the Pidmonaria rtiacitlosa^
-r ur cowslips of Jerusalem ? "It
Dt» -I I:*, and flowers in May,*'
li><- f . mentions (in Quotation) "Tal-
Should this not be Tuthury Castle P
li m fires, commonly eaUed tindles.
mentioned by Brand in his
J atiO exist, or has it been put
I to ♦*iOT want of the wonted materials ** ?
J, MANtlKL.
Jc-on-Tyne,
ally admire the poetry of the prose extract,
lould very much like to ask the question, is
^iJcHnti* true ? for on referring to my ecrap-
biit a predsely similar anecdote of
^1. 'Wer " wfis quoted in Pktufmt Hvwm
lrG•^, out of the LUvrai-u Chtrchmm^,
. W. H.
SMrjTB (4»'» S. Ti.474 ; vii. 43, 175,)^I ahoidd
he glad to have an explanation of L, N. 0. N.*8
meaning in the following (which at present seems
to be some play upon Sp. and ^.^.^^Wj^fd^;
but until I clearly understand the sentencei I
could not pretend to reply) : " There is a . . ,
family name of Sp.*8 wnich often appears in pedi-
grees of families with whom Sp/s have interviar^
ried—l mean obiit ** f Sf,
Babtolomao Diaz, the Disco vbbkb of the
Cape Route (4*" S. vii. 102, 195.)— BouiUet, in
his Dictionnaite tmtvcr^el (ffftJitnire el de GSo-
graphie^ ^:ives, like Galvano^ 1480 as the year of
this important discovery; and ho adds, at the word
Cap : '• La colonie du Cap fut fondle en 1050 par
lea Hollandais (104 ans apr*\^ la d^converte du
Cap de Bonne- Esp^^rance) ** which makes it in fact
A.D. 148a
The great navigator was correct in giving it
the name of Cap des Tourmentea, for on a sub*
sequent voyage his vessel foundered. Still there
are timea^ oa I have myself witnessed on my ye-
turn from China in May 1833, when the sea oflf
the Cape is as smooth as a looking-glass.
P, A, L,
Sickle Botke: Botne Moket (4"* S. vii,
236.) — ** Sickle boyne " seems to be personal aer*
vice — that of a reaper or shearer (as of corn in
autumn) with the eickle^ who, in the character
of cottar, tacksman, vassal, iStc, was hormden to
perform such service to his over-lord, under con-
tract^ or by some well-established custom of the
manor, Bo^e is probably not anywise different
from hotm or fioofi, the more usual form ; and a cor-
ruption, as seems the opinion of Bishop W, Kennet^
of boundertj or, if not, of at least bidaan (Sax,), to
pray or entreat (Glossary to Far. AtUiq, voce
" Precaria''). ** Boyne money/' or ** boon ailver/*
seemingly the same in import, was the money
commutaHon paid by the obligee for such personal
service. The expression, ^* hnon of shearers," is yet
quite common in Scotland ; and says Blount, in
mentioning the services and customs of certain
manors in Nottingham : —
^* On the dnj of the Grtat Bidrrpt, which was called
the Pri«r*< Btx>n^ every nafi re wa* to fiud three work-
men. And (every) cottager one." — Anticnt TViittref, edit
of 1784, p. 262,
Boon servicea were the same with those per-
formed under the names of bidrepe and precaria f
which last is simply the I^atin form of hidrefm^
which is supposed to be derived from bftddan
above-mentioned, and repe, to rip or cut com.
Hence, a reaping on a certain day, on the prayer
or entreaty by the lord or hta steward, of hia
servile dependents — of those who owed Mm
customary services — was called bitlrtpe. These
assembly days were called frtW-daya, i. e. biddan
days,— those on which th^ ci^aVjmw^ Nfev^assXa
314
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»S,VII.AFisii.a.71.
attended ad prfces dommL (Kennet's GlGUory^
T* " Bidrepe*' ftnd **Precarift"j Blounfs Tmate*^
pp. 220, 250, 2^4, 255, 202, 204 ; aod the same
author's Lmv Dictionary f v. " Bidrepu/ ')
'* SoLTJTA " Ts Parish: Registers (S'<* S. iii.
61, 151, lt*d, 23a)— In a MS. called the Stoneley
Ledger, written i€mp. Richard II. (K102), p. 5,
afi ^/m,j we find : *' Qm Robertus gentiit de Arlota
8c>luta preflictum Willelinus Bastard." Does not
tlio word here clearlj mean single woman ?
E. II, Kjjowlkb,
Kenilwortb.
The Nile akb the Bible (4^* S. vii. 186.) *-
I was alwajB under the impreasion that the pas-
sage Eccles. XI. Jf *' Cast thy bread upon the
waters : for tbou shalt find it after many days,''
Lad its orif^Q in the custom of the Egyptians of
casting seed on the waters of the NUe when they
overflowed th*! neighbouring- lands, which sinkiog
jn the still pools that overflowed the fields, was
covered with a rich alluvial deposit when the
waters receded, and subsequently sprung up under
the infiuence of the sun. The passage in the LXX
is worth noting;*—
tri iv ttxii^ti fiufpiv fypii/trttt a{rr6¥. (Compare Herod.
Euterpe^ xiv,)
Ot o(rre hfh^^t^ QMa^^iffv6vT§t aliAoirar, tx'^v&i irJrtH/jr,
iwiffaif TOT« cTTffjpoi cKacTTos r^y ewyroi/ &povpaVy if.T,A,
On referring to Schultz, Scholia in Vctus Teda-
metitum coniintmta a Georg. Laur. Bauer j I tind
the common acceptation of the veri^e with another
interpretation which has some allusion to the one
under consideration :^
" * Mitte pamcm tuum traas ma re, nam post moltoi
dies ri'pcries illuro/ Htcc et seqiicntia v<&\ de eleemonyniii
dandlit, etc, vd dc gAtionc fruinenti explicant. Qui pa-
ncm a. bona aim in aquaa projicit.amitdl ilia. 8lc de tais
faculutibus erga pBuperibiw, qui rependere bentficui nya
pMsuikt, D^oa rem u liberator erit, Luc. xiv. 14 ; Sirac. xxii;,
12. Van der Pttim, ** Krumentum dbtribup, i.€. semen-
ttni fac juxta aqua^ i.e, in lorn fyrtiliaribuifu ubi pcwt
multos dies inv«oiefl, quod colliga*,' " (VoL v. p. 327*;
The passage is worthy of some further inquiry.
Cork.
" Sapieits est FiLiua qui kotit Patrem "
(4**> S. vi. 324» 422.) — Athemeus says that at
Athens Cecrops was the tirst person who married
a man to one wife ocly, for before his time men
had their wives in common ; on which account it
was, as some people state, he was called Supv-hu ^h
utoi t^&^i Turt Ztipvtjt yofitffBrjvmj ovte f^'d^w rwt' rpS-
ripo¥ St^ rh-wMfios r^r wetr^pcu — J}eiptosoph, xiii. 2«
0. P, L
Story ascribed to Theodobb Hook (4** 8.
vii. 73, 1^)6. )— This, I think, must be old*TihiB
the time of Hook* I met with the fnlloviDg
American veraion of the story about h&Lf a oea^
tury ago : —
'* A« two divines, their ambling stmds b»tridjii^t
In nacrr)' oiotHl y'er Boston oeck w«ro ridicg.
Sudden a simple stmcture met their aigbu
From which the convict take^ hia hempen dlflit;
Where aailor-Hke he bids adieu to hope^
His all depending on a single rope.
* Sll3^ bruiher/ cried the one, * prar. where wtft joi,
Had yonder ^allowa b^en allow«d ita due ? *
* Where? * cried the other, in sarcastic tone,
* Why, wheni hot riding into loim aloDC^*"
UnDi.
Philadelphia.
Stilts = CnrroERs (3^^ S. vii 473 ; riil 17^
23S), 278; 4^^ S, vii. 243.)— The acc^utir^of tk
overseers of the poor for the pariah • i
near Boaton, A»a lG(Jf», contain ibi*
The Christian name has-been left blank bv toe
writer: — '* Given to , . , , . Thompson w'ti OM
stilte, Tj<*." (Xf*cA<»o/oyiti, xli. 309.) T
Edward Psaoqci^I
BotteeJbrd Manor, Brjgg.
ElecampajiE (4**' 8. V. 695 ; Ti. 103, iJ05, 2dij
vii, 243.)— Of thia plant, lIcfemHm.Inula, or .
campana^ all the old herbals speak in high i
of commendation. In Germany a wine mi '
it is in great eateeoi. It waa accounted {
opening, deterisive, and etlicacious in
the limgs. X^r. Hill even says that h«
plant has more virtues, but that ila
virtue ia in curing coughs. An iufu^ion
fresh root with hoDey was found vei>^ sue
in hooping-cough. I' or these purpo.<9es it was i
made mto candy, and ao gradually became i
sweet thing for children. So that now it
cal virtues are forgotten, and it i« sold
a candj in confectioners* shops, with n^ maw i
the plant in it than there is of barley in whati
now sold as harley-imgar.
The virtue of elecampane was celebrated tni
old distich : —
«* Eaula campana reddit pr«cofdia sana/'
The German name is AianUewsel, In an old (
man herbal of 1580 it ia proclaimed gOi>d (
the plague and pestilential diseases. The aut!
seeks to identify it with the herb molt/. He i
that many valuable medicines may be prep
with elecampane, and principally for asthma^ 1
breathing, and dry cough, for which he
the comjpoi-ition of an electuary ^ and adds in 1
quaint old German : —
^' Diese Latwerge zertbeilet die groben FK||CQa
maeht leleht auaswerlTen. Heilot alaa genUtiel ** ^
Geachwer der Lungen, u. &. w.**
He further recommends it to be candied lite
angelica, and eaten morning and eveniog for asUi-
NOTES AND QUERIES.
(nplaiotfi. He very amtuinglj tells big
It it has lon^ been customary in Swit-
babia, and Bavaria to keep a piece of
b'Toot in the mouth in the morning
I that the same is customary nn the
other waters, against poiaonona exbala-
hfid air. He hiiA aeTeral more medical
^mpane, but all theae old real or gujp-
lee are now forgotti?n ; and we may be
Idi Dr. Thornton's brief summiog up in
iti efteemed a good pectorfi1» and , like anp:elic&'
1 i and these have become now a sweetmeat
F. C. n. a Murithian.
jed;aE
I
owiFG AFTER Death (4*^ S. \i. 524 ;
. 130, 222, 290.) — I meant no disrespect
lid Gentleman at Turvey," when I de-
lim hy that title in my paper of Feb-
I merely repeated the expression made
hifl friend Me. Pickforb. The retort
• gentleman " provokes a smile from one
rty years ago, was already teaching
What it was that the (not old) gentle-
In the tomb of Lady Mordaunt, wbe-
I really human hair or not, and^ if hair^
I come there, T cannot say ; but that it
rhich had grown from a dead body is
bosaible.
pa that to a person ignorant of physio -
bf the laws which govern the formation
I tiaaues, all vitnl phpenomena appear
tohable, or equally improbable. There
i standard of protabilitj. A hair huM
I itaelf ; it is n mere secretion, formed
hllklef or little hag, in the akin from tbo
eh is carried to it The hair grows by
vn at iU root of fresh material, which
^pushes onwards the hard dry portion
skin, and so increases its length. Btit
le cotmection between the hair and the
|la at ita root be severed, or let the
Bf and these vessels periah — the hair
tdead, and as incapable of any further
apiece of wire. If hairs had inde-
Dwers of growth, wigs would grow,
. not occur to the gentleman at Tnrvey
IT continued to grow after death, every
|d exhibit an instance such as he believes
B that of Lady Mordaunt? And what a
B Egyptian mummies ought to make !
I surely had time enough to develope a
ball seriousness recommend yonr cor-
who have hitherto believed in the
|n growth of hair, to reier to some ele-
ix)k on physiology, and leam how hair
I If they can get some friend with a
to show them an injected hair-folliclR,
le better, J. Ddlof.
Meajtiko op " NACOABnrB '' (4**« S. vii. 236.)
In reply to B, H. Kkowles, naccarine is the name
of a colour of a crimson hue, eimilar to that of the
robe of the Order of the Bath, or more properly
the reddish hue of the mother-o'- pearl shell. It
is derived from the Spanish nacnr, the lustre of
mother-o*-pearl, or the French nacre^ which means
the shell as well aa the pearly lustre of it. There
are equivalent words in the' Arabic, from which
the Spanish may possibly have derived their
word ; they are, n&sffru and noaffru^ An Arabic
scholar may contend these to he synonymous j if
so, I am perfectly agreeable.
The word in English I have seen spelt who-
kartne: the affix, as most would know, is the
Latin -tnus = belonging to.
Allied to naccarif$€ m nacarat^ which means a
fine linen fabric, dyed fugitively of a pale red
colour, which lad tea used to rub upon their faces
to give them a delicate roseate hue. We have
also nacreom^ applied to a surface which reflects
iridescent light. J. J^
NOTES on BOOKS, BTO.
England in tht Meiffn of Kingt Iltnryf the Eighth. A.
JJiaJof^ttt between Ccirdinnt Foh and Thomas Lup»*t,
lecturer in Rhttoric at Oxford^ by Thomas Starkey^
Chapiain to tht King, Kdiltd^ urith Preface, Noteg^ and
GioMtar^t bi^ J, M. Cowper. (littriy Englii^lj Text
Society.)
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15'^ I* by Simnn Fi»h» Atno edited by K J. Furnivnil.
H'tth a Supp/ycax^on to Ourt Motte Sovereiyne Ztorde
Kyntge Henry the Eitjhth ( AD. 1544), A Suppticatiow
€f the Ftwre Commons (A.D, 1546). 7*he iJtcaye of
Enqiand by the yrtte mnititude «/ Shep^i (a,d. 1.^.50).
Edited by J. M. Cowper. (Eurlv English Text Society.)
If the study of our early lanj^uage, iu history and
moil amenta* does not become general, it will not bo from
any loick of 7:eal and intelligence on tbe part of many
eminent Bcholari who devote their time and knowledge
to the editing of the pnblications of the Early Engliih
T**xt Sn<-iety. It ia little more thon a month ain<ie wo
noted the appearance at Jmeph of Arimatheu and Aifred's
fVett SaJCfiH Vertion nf Oregory^t Pasioral Care — the
first two hooks issued by the Society in return for the
pre^nt yeir's suhacription ; and now we h«ve to call
attention to two more volume^i of the extra seriea. Of
the first of ihcw, *^The Di«logne between Pole snd
Ltip»et," the editor (who conaidera it hartlly of leaa
interest and leaa importance than Mo re 'a Utopia}
snvfl : *' Il8 unimpaasiotied state men ta respecting raen,
its judge-like Buggestinns (or improvement, its koon ap-
preeiationi of what would profit the countr}' — and make
men wiser, happier, and hetler— give it a value which
few works of the time possess.** Mr, Cowper haa done
hi^duty as an editor very tuatisfactorily, and the ahstracl,
in which ho gives in motlpni! English the inost ioteieat-
ing points of the book, will prove of great use to the
general reader i who will look very anxtouBly for Pro-
feaior Brewer's promised Introduction to it. The four
tracLs, which fono the aecond of these volumes, weE do-
AEnre the attention of all who would know the real state
of the coiiQtry at the period of the Befonaation,
316
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[4«fcaVIL Ap«iLa,7L
PaMttjruphical Dictinnnry and Gramffuir^ By Anion
Ilacbmiikr, President of tho PAaigraphicol i^odel^r of
Munich.
PtuiffraphiMeke* Wihifrtvch xum G^raucfie flir die
J}eut9€Ae Sprachg^ Ver/aaat eon Aoton Bachiaaier.
DicHonnaire Pasigraphujue^ pr4cedS de la Grammaire.
Redi^ par Antoiue Bachmmiisr. (Trllbner.)
Bom« of ouf readers mar not be aware of tbtt exsct
natora of pasi^aphy : " Pai^igrapby,*' days the editor of
these little volumes, "teacher people to conumunicate
with one anctbef in writing by nieaa§ of nomb«rs,
which convi;y the same ideoA in all laiigunge^ thus it
reunites poopls whom languages wparate." Although
this liyetem cannot poisess all thci^advaoUgea of a lan-
guage, it is a faithful interpreter of all languages that
accept It, iLB any one will fed convinced who will take
the trrmble to test it by mcam of these three dictionaries ;
And the principle will apply as equally to three hundred
aa to three languagci, provided dictionariee be prepared for
tbapurpoee. The utility of such a system ia evident, and
no leaa ao the ingenuity with which M. BAchmaier has
OTercomc its difflcultiea. The conoeptionj oommnnicablo
ate 4^334 ; and when it ta remembered bow few are the
words in ordinary nae, it will be seen what grejit pro-
grett M. Bachmaier has made in aohini;^ the problem of
OQ uoiverml language, or, At all event«i, an unirersal
meaoA of intercom mucicatlon for ordinary' purposes be-
tween all nntioQg and languages.
Tfw Builders of Bahd. By Dominick M'CauaLintl, Q.C^
D.C.L^ &c, (BentJey.)
This is ft book which mav safely be recommendiMl to
those who are honestly anil earnestly seeking fbr the
harmony that must exist between the well-ascertained
facts of scicnee and the rightly understood words of
revelation* Mr. M*CaiJ3land» io the conviction that pn»-
hiatoric orchfleologv, like every other sclcncspj only aervca
to set thu seal of truth on the aaered reoordf in the
volnme before u» brings the recent disooreriea which tbis
new science hns won for history to bear iti bridging over
the nii«ty gulf wliich haa hitherto intirx'emKl between th«
lujstorv "of the Hametic and Japhetic branches of the
great human family in the Book of GeneAis* and the
Oreciau Era.
Jtxminiseences of Fifty Years. J?y Mark Boyd. (Long-
naaju.)
When an intelligent man who has parsed fifty years of
a busy Mft^r which has bruught him in contact with men
high in both services, active politician*, and iiilelligent
men of buHinesai, i^its down to write hLs remiiiLsceuces, he
can hardly fail to record a good deal wliicb is amusing^
and a good deal whichi if otvt amusingt i^ worth know-
ing. Such is Mr. Boyd's book; which, thotigh certainly
not ei{\tn\ to Dean RAmsay's, which tsuggested it, contains
some very interesting anecdotes^ while iu many cases,
if the anecdotes are not very remarkable, they derive
interest and value from the remai'kable men of whom
they are related.
Books receivkt>.— Fnpti/rtr Tahlen by Oiarkn M. Wii-
tick, Secenth edition, edited l»/ Montague Marriottp Uwr-
rister-at-Law» (Longman^O ^Fhe great value and utility
iA these Tables have been so generally recognised thfit
we may content ourselves with callingattention to this
ievcnth edition, iu which the ^-ariou^ Tables, &c. have
been brought down to the present day.
The Mnc Catlum Mnrc. A History nf the Arqyft
Famdy^ from thv earliest Timm. Bu the Rc«v. ilely
Smith. (BemroBe.) A well-tim^d little book foil of the
in/brmutiun which the recent marriage of tht VmcKsa
L<^u]»e to Lord Ijotne oaturally leads maoy to inqidrt
after.
BoutIedy€*M IHmatrated Nattimi HuHory, By tkt RsT,
J. G. Wood. M.A., F.L.S. Part I. (Boatledge.) Thos
can lie little doubt that this new itene of Mr Wosi**
pleoMantl}^ written and beautifully illujitfated Natitrit
Hi^tctry will share the popoUrity which so deservadly
attended the original edition.
Tac conclusion of Lard DalUng^ Bfogrsphy aiivl
Letters of Lord Falmerston, will, it is undentood, gp*
pear tn the course of the present year.
Report speaks very favourably of the approa«ikhur
Exhibition of the Royal Academy', which, it is aaid, wffl
contain a considerable niimber of worka by eniintai
French artists.
We are reqnestad to state that the title, * Wd
Wooed/' which designates a "seiiaP* novel, oomo
in Chambers^t Jowmat on November 29, 1870^ was noti
in connection With a " drama in five acts, and in ^
in The Ath€Mvm of October 30, WJ^— hiring i
with the wriler of the play referred to.
The Royal Albert IIau*— This atrocture c
about one quarter of the area of the Colopfieuai^ i
much less elliptical than that building, Win^ le
half the length, and a Uttlt* more than brilf the I
1 Ik* extemxil dimeni^ions of the haU are 272 against I
and 238 against 468.
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NOTES AND QUERIES,
317
CONTENTS.— N« 172.
SlMmswr, t^pPoet of Irt-latrd, SIT — FendUis:
_Jlp, 31& — '* Provinciftl ChanuiteristiGa/* 219 —
t>f the Cloudt, i6.— Anolber Old Jeakin»--&ur*
Ut DoniF«diiy Bfjnk — BigDbr<ards — Baron liio-
sstimon^ i*^- ^< • ^-bmblti BviTTtoes of diitin^uiibed
Sclent iterarj M«n — John Kecape,
lb op of ( — The Libmrifia aad Mu«eusas
I-* Au O.v. - *;..i... Epi|rniro» S:fO.
fS: — Apwkala. Favourite Wife of Akbftr. 321 —
i rhH*tt"— BUdcTooisc-llo .^nrt'tti — Old Ballad —
■ ' " ' locJi — "Coutmnifir
h> :%:fed Virgin Mary"
m k — Gorse — HoIcds
^ 1 f 5 lis" Li#t» — Jobn Korncy
■ini.v ' Ba J II* McTci" — Portrait
1— M in ibe Isle of Kly.Ac —
X^ V rlni; Pamitv — Stembold
n »— 4 Toad«tciii« Rinif
o\ i , Hagatine — Choice of
: •*\Vuik 'or 'Hiiuk"?322-
BI — Old Sandown Caatlc, IbIo of "Wiffbt, 3*5 —
i^J^Jtimmii** /A, — Chignons. 32fi — " Bnrc>n '* Nicbol-
I A Laird f 328 — I^ord Brougham and Mm.
iDCub •- Fnuter ; Fri&el — Bowa and Curt-
^ T and Si|Cf)aUric« — Samplers — Ktbc* —
. Hooka — Patronymic Prt* face *' Hao " — Bntifh
CharifJl* — SbciCTWort — *" Tliomjth lost to Sirht.
„ fj dear *' — On tho Title of King or Qniwn of Man
i)re or Say — Hampden Family — Gulzfjt and Oui«o
lerlt* ** Gr&to UcrbalL— The Plant Lingua Anuria
rrtiM irtthin Eoman Campa — Lioes oa the Haman
Ballad of Lady Ferren, Ic, 1^0*
Booka, A«.
iPENSER. THE POET OF IRELAND.
No, III.
be It mere fancy of niine, but I hare
lit inclmed to regard Spenser as being
et of Ireland, for it is ouly in his poetry
neet with Iri^h scenery and Irish man-
( be spent the earlv part of bis life mostly
Ei| and in reality knew very Httle of any
togland but Kent, he nut orally describtid
under his ejes in Irtdtaid, with whoBB
od BC^nery he seems to have been well
Of thia I find the following proofs :^-
sn be would describe the force ol the tide
pT np a river (iv. 3, 27), it m the Shannon,
ch no liad aeen it, and not the Thames or
;, in which he had not seen it, that he in-
m; when the collision of two adverae bil-
g, 1, 42), it is in the "Irish Sounds'* that
m; when he in a simile (ii. 9, 10) desenbt^s
wot gnats, it ia " out of the fens of Allan/'
b the county of Cork, that tliey rise. The
of the s*>uth wind dbpolling the mist
"1) is evidently taJien from what the poet
bn have witnessed at Kilcolman. Nature
r court (viL 6) on the hill of Aelo in the
JintTi the cbanofe of which hill is the sub-
ing niTthologic legend ; and lu bis
It came Home fl^aiii, be relates the
\ two Deighbouring stream p^ the MuOa
and the Bregog — a legend perhaps concerted be-
tween the poet and Sir Walter Raleigh, when the
latter visited him at Kilcolman. I finally think
that it was the Lakes of Killarney, which he
must have visited, that made him place the bower
of Acraaia in a lake, and not in the sea like the
palacea of Alcina and Armida.
In various parts of the poem we seem to meet
with the aboaea, the manners, and the habits of
the rude and barbarous Irish. We may instance
the cottaffe and the occupation of Corcieca and
her daughter (i, 3, 10 seq.) ; the Witch's abode
(iii, 7^^i)f and that of Bclaunderand her own person ;
and the ford w^here the *' fosters ** waylay Timiaa
(iii. J5, 17). Perhaps even the abode of Bel-
phcebe and her nymphs (iiL 5, *39) may have bad
Lta nrototype in the woods of Munster.
When 'we read the description of the "ooro-
mune ball ^' in the Palace of Pride (i. 5, 3), with
its minstrels, its bards, and its chroniclers, we are
reminded at once of the abode of an Irish chief,
or even the castle of an Anglo-lriab lord : for in
such the poet must often have been a guest. He
puroly must have been more than once at that of
Kilkenny. We may observe that while in the
Orlmuio the knights frequently stop at innsi
nothing of the land occurs in Tne I*hmie Queenep
where at nightfall they always repair to caatlea or
other private dwellings. Kow in the View^ Sfc.f
wo are told more than once that " there be no
Innes " where ** lodging or horse meat or man*8
meat*' were to be bad. And such, I have reason
to think, was the case in remote parts of Kerry
even within the present century, wlien the travel-
ler or tourist was always a welcome guest in
private bouses.*
But it may be said — Is not Moore the poet
of L'eland? Just as much, in my opinion, as
Bvron i^ the poet of Israel. Moore— though, I
believe, of Celtic origin — in reality knew little of
Ireland. lie was bom and reared in Dublin,t
and therefiire never mingled with the peasan-
try, who rauat be known if w© woulcl know
the Irish character. He bad, I think, little or no
taste for natural scenery; and hence his Irish
Melodies do not contain a single description of
Irish scenery or a trait of Irish manners. lie
* In If^lS one of the gnidcs at Klllarneiy proposed to
me to make a pedestrian tour through the tnoantaius of
Kerrv. •* But/* ssxid I, *^ there are no inoc." •' Oh, never
mind Ihat," said he ; " for every dav I will bring yon to
the house of eome gentleroan or other, who will be right
glad to give you your dinner, bod, and breakfast next
morning for the pleasure of your companj%'*
t Many many year3 ago* when I wae a very young
student in Trinity College^ Dublin, I chanced to beeome
acquainted with the successor of Moore's father in tlic
groccr'ji whop in Auugier Street, and I remember sppud-
inj7 an evetiing [Iriuking' tea, plaving card*, and eating
nystera in the little parlour behlud the shop, in which
the poet must often have sat com^^itiisi bMk<aM\^ n«i%«^
Hut I WAS not then aw«x« ^i \t-
318
NOTES AKD QUEKIES.
merely took some names of persons and som©
Fubuloiia legends from tlie so-called histories of
Keating and 0*lIalloran, and when these legends
were really beautiful, he spoiled them by his
light trifling mode of narrating them. PreniiBing^
that^ in my opinion, the finest Tersea ever pro-
duced In Ireland are Wolfe's on ** The Burial of
Sir John Moore/' I would say, thougk manjr of
the Melodies are pleasing and some really spinted,
This " third and last volume '* is h '
the two preceding, which give the
of the family* The three volumes or pans
form one large folio. The date 1618, no (
gives the time when Smyth finished bis i
the end of the third volume or part. But I found
other dates in places^ as 1634, 1635, wbieh we»,
I presume, insertions made by him ftft<>rwardft.
Of courfie he cornea to this puzzling oims,
that, as a national poet, he was, in my mind, far which^ however, seema not to have puzzled htOL
inferior to Davis — ^the Tyrtfpus of that wild At p. 704, Smyth is sT ' ' '^
Gil^
band of hot-headed enthusiasts led by infatuated
but honourable and well-meaning Smith O'Brien,
»ome twenty or live- and -twenty vears ago, who
dreamed of such an utter impossibility as that of
exciting the Irish Komnnists to rise in arms
against the power of Eogland. I say so; for,
with all their ignorance and enthusiasm, the Irish
are not absolute fools, and therefore an insurrec-
tion in Ireland is just as probable an event as one
in Wsilefl or OornwalL Will our statesmen ever
get rid of their dread of this noisy unsubstantial
bugbear? Let them do strict justice, and expect
no thanks. An imafxinative race, conscious of
inferiority, never will be contented, but will
always have imaginary wrongs to brood over,
and on which they may display their national
eloquence. Tnos. Keiohxlht*
FKNDLES: BEAUCHAMi'.
The first of these names, spelt in various ways,
has, I suppose, always been a puzzle to English
genealogists, I mentioned it (iiL 409) when I
had something to aay about the Mortymer pedi-
gree. But, although I am not yet able to decide
what the real name is, I think that IlKRirey-
TRrDE f4*^ S. vii, 223) would lilce to know that
the prooability still seems to incline to its being
A Spanish name barbarized into its present shape.
There are in existence two copies in MS, of the
Lives of the Berkeleys by Smyth of Xihley* One
is at Berkeley Castle. I have never seen that
MS.: it was the one used by Fosbrooko for his
Extracts from Smyth's Liws of the Bcrkrkifs.
The other is in the possession of Mr. Berkeley of
Spetchley Park, Worcestershire, By his kindness
I have been allowed to have this precious MS, in
my own hous^e, It is a magazine of Gloucester-
shire Mstor3\ At the end of it is this state-
ment :—
"The end of the third and last volume, contc}*ninge
the seaaen last aiicratora of the iiiitient and honorable
fttuiilye of the LStTkeleis (inttludin^^e the lord George that
yet lyuetb) wherein 127 yearea are takt^n, up, x^iz* from
the vii*^ yeare of the migne of Kinge Henry the VII^\
Anno 1401, till the xyj^"* yenre i>f the raigno of King
Jjimcs of Englaiid he. Anno 1618.'^
I give the«e pBrticulara that Hebmestrttdb i
and other genealo^nat^ may see exactly what the | of Fienles, as given by Vrodiua. It is not tl>*
authority is to which I am asking them to assent, , coat of the ancient iforman-English family of
showing bow Georc«, tint
Lord Berkeley of that Christian name, Uie lorl
who WR3 living when he wrote, could diia
several nntionali ties . He says; —
" By Mar^nret, wife of Thomas, the third ^xas^htx
of Roper Mnrtimer* first E.irle of March, sonne rt
Mortimer Lord of Wipnore, and of Margaret ffr
wife, daughter of William de ffeodle^ a SpaiiMni t.s^
zen t<j (.iuecn© Elleant*r, first wife to King« Ed want d^ I
lirat." ^
And in the dexter margin ** a Spaniard."
This is a very positive statement, but it
worth listening to when mcde by a man sueb]
Smyth was, I have searched the NoblesA { '
dalmiat in SevUk, 1588, but found noth
Englisli ingenuity or blundering could
dueed to Fen dies"
However, a possible name is given by I
in his '' Introductio ad Latinam Blasomna"
the list of '* Vredi Blaaonire/' At the end <
** Si'flrilU Comitum Flendris cum <
historica Oltvarl Vredl Ivriaconsvlta Brvg.
Flandrarum apud JoaDnctn EaptUtem KerchoviamV
alia, sub sigiio liibliorum. Anno 1039,**
is a list of arms collected by Julius Chifflet^ i
of John James ChifHet, It is in Latin and Fw
I know Vrediu.*'B book very well, but I
possess it, and cjmnot here refer to it, Wl
it may be that the name t>ccurs, Gibbon i
as I have said^ under '* Vredi Blasonia^?
name is Fienles. He gives the name i
thus r —
"Fienlcs. Scutum ar^atctim fUfVO Leone imp
Arg. n Lion rampant Sab. (a place gi^-ini; ^urnttnilo J
Fninily)."
This name certainly brings us very ncur 1
Fen dies. It is most likely that in England \
name Fienles could not have existed long witl
getting a d inserted. Where is Fienles ?
Now the jRecuetl GMSaioffmue de FamiU§i t
naires de» FmjH Has, Rotterdam, 1775,
p. 365^ and elsewhere^ the name and coat of J
Fiennes. Gilles de Fiennes occurs at the ^
beginning of the seventeenth century as ** Chevi
lieTj Seigneur de llenauville, fils de ^[axituilieii|
Seigneur dudit Lien."' The arms on p, 3<>'i l
which p. .36o refers, are " dVrgent au lion de aahKl
srmt$ et lampass^ de gueules. This is tbecQ9it|
fni. AwuL 15, 71.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
319
bniiesr who lieiir Asure^ three lions rampant or,
med and lanfnied $r> ; and Eliaa Beuaner, pArt v.
82 of hw Oinut GenetUogienm Caihoiicum^ 1502,
re* '* Stirpis LQcembur^cre stemma fl^jcandum,
tim Fani S, Pavli ac Ligmii, FienuKJ Domi-
*' but oo arras. D. l\
ta Lodge, Malrern Welii,
IPBOVIXCIAL CUARACTERISTICS."
hnvidjcu tfejfpritf which appeared orijyiDally
ffiei Mik'}^i<in Maqazine of Dr. John Brtmifto of
ihlin, and which derived much of ha point from
I fact (hitherto mimenlioDed ) that it was impro-
id in a companv that fairly represented the
mUiire and scholarship of the four Irish pro-
res, haa been reprinted by Mr. T. Crofton
^ker in his Popular Smt^s of Irdand^ and by
1^ Charle* Gavati Dutly in his Ca^cet of /?*hiX
Ni£i, with RU accompanying hint that it tnai/
fe been written by Dr. Hrennan himself. Both
L T. C. Croker and Mr. Charles Gavan DulTy
I entirely wrong in this conjecture, the pun-
It bagatelle in question havinj< been extem-
Itsed by my father, a naval brothLT Medico and
mid of the Doctor'», who, many year? ago, gave
i the original, ffom which 1 made the accom-
nting I^tin tranalation, such ae it is,
Croker^ thnutjh a clever man, makea another
mistake in quoting the humorous Irish
i,
Fin kin to the CaUjijrbans, Brallaghiius,
Kowlans and DoMrlingis likewise," —
I if it formed part of a totally dillerent nong,
Ued *^ I was the boy for bewitching thera."
Hd 13 also^ I think, wron^ in explainin*.' the
i^bv Anglo-Iri^h curse, ** Bad cess to you " by
m^yy ffht-afion to you*^ (11)^ — an Iriah curse,
J doubt, but I think interpreted with " bad auc-
*'hy Mr. Croker.
•* raoVWCIAl. CMARACTERlSTICa.
^ thini line Croftmi and Duffy have ** mist^all,"
erroneously for ** miiBed all/']
' A Connaught man
Gets all that he can,
I impudence Dover ha^ mid»od all ;
ifeil seldom flatter,
> But bnlly and butter,
t'hb talk'rt ofbij) kin and his piitol.
' A Mun»ter man
1* en 51 hv flan,
lii! ! »f' 11 entreat yrvtj ;
a ten tini(» refuAe,
< in- ituject pursu**!",
(Thidi i«, nine oat of ten times, to cheat you.
*• An Ulster man
Kvcr meaiiA to trepan,
He watr h*-* rour eye and opinion j
r iliAagree^
■rest it be,
Afl4 iji£-^.-. .-• ..urka hia dominion.
** A I^inster man
la with oil cup und can;
lie calls t'other provinces knaves ;
Yet each of them see.
When he starts with the three.
That his ilutance bo frequently Bavea."
•* CjIAnACTERRS l-BOV^KClARUM.
** Connaeia? natnn qxxte poasit concta Incratnr;
Nee semper, audax, fallitcir orane petens;
liarns adubitor, bacchant plerumque ftrotnt ;
Armaque niiai;niloqDena prosapiamque orepttt.
** MonnniA* nutua ei villa compndtoquo
Urbanus rop;itat, sarpe s^ubin^li? ri>|^at ;
Si decic§ negitoB, quod vult prosequitur ardena ;
Ex decica noviea fallere qucniquQ parat.
" Ultoniaj natiui dcceptor mmper ocellls
Iiibiat ot mentis callirlu.*} advi^jlaii<i ;
Xi sua rea fljt^itur uunriuam cli.>ǤGntit auiico;
.Spiritus inAultAua tmperiuinque not at.
" La^enifl! natua calioes et pocnla partit,
Atqn^ alios neqnam furuifemMjuo vocat ;
A-*t ubi contendit triplex provincia curmi, —
Qua?que aibi videati — occupat Ilia tecum."
Tmomas SxAKi^Er Tkacet, A.B.,
Ex-Scholar Trin. Coll., Dublin.
Limerick,
rOETRY OF THE CLOUDS.
De tjuincey, in his essay on Wordsworth's
p(Mitni% sfiys, **it ia singular that the gorgeous
phi?nomena of cloud scenery have been so little
noticed by poet«,'' He considers IrVordaworth to
be the only poet who has satisfactorily observed
the beauty of clouds and their weird fantastic
shapes ; and he naturally selects this point for his
eloquent admiration. Naturally I say, for who is
so fond of building " castles in the air *' as Be
Quincey ?
With his usual display of pyrotechnic r!ietc»ric
he daKJtles the reader into thenelief that the two
or three passages which he " devolvit ore pro-
fundo *' contain the only known aUusions to these
'* vapoury appearances." This statement, support-
ing the theory that the ancient poets were msen-
ftibk to natural beauty, I am anxious to disprove*
The following are a few quotations, which I
should be glad to see largely supplemented.
In Theocritus (xxv. SB) there is a passage
similar to that quoted hy De Quincey, in which a
Hock of sheep is cmiipaied with ** rainy clouds.*'
Secondly^ in the *' Clouds'* of Aristophanes
there are many allusionji, and especially in one
passage {AubeSj 345-348) where clouds are likened
to a panther, a woli\ a centaur, a bull, a stag, and
a woman.
Again, Lucretius, treating of emanations (iv*
136)^ speaks thus of the forms seen in clouds : —
*• aape Gigantnm
Ora Totare vidcntur, et nmbram ducere late :
Interdum mag^ni inontes ftvolsaqtie saxa
Moatibn.^ anteire et solcm aii»?eodere pneter ;
lade olioa trahere atquc indaoeret beluft mmbos,"
320
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
In Uamkt De Quincey allows that there are
some *• gleams of evanescent allvisiona/' I fiod
more than that — namely, clouds with the form of
a camel, a weaiel, a whale.
I cannot refrain from qtiotingr « beaatiftil de-
scription from a poet whom De Qaincey has
styled a "harbarian'* — ^John Keats; although,
perhaps, in point of time the quotation ia imper-
tinent : —
..." before the <;ryi«t&l hjeavens darken
I watch and «Iot« upon the Kilver lakes
Picturetl in western lovelinesis thjit tnkcs
The semblance of ^x)k! rocks and brijfht gold aands,
Islands and creeks and amber-fretted strands^
With horaej pranctof^ o*er them, palaces
And towers of amethyBt," dc.
In fine, I do not find that Wordsworth, ** if he
did not first notice, certainly has noticed most
cifeamstantially ** what De Qiiincey cumbrously
terms *'the pageants of skj'buiit architecture."
II. B. COTTERliL.
The Plulbcrdi, Maidenhead.
ANOTHisn Olb Jexki:!T8.^I enclose a cntliDg
from Bcrroivs Worcester Journal of April 1, 1871,
in the hope that some correspondent of "N, Sc QJ*
reside Dt m the neighbourhoood wiU investigate
^0 caae as thoroughly aa Me. Pole Cakew did
that of Edward Couch of Torpoint, atated to he
one hundred and ten, but clearly proved ((tni^
p. 200) by Mr. Polb Cabew, upon inveatigation,
to be ninety-five ! —
" In our obituary this week we re«^ord the death, an
the 25th tilt*, of John Junkinj*, of Codrliiii,-ton, ne.^r Led-
bury, Ilertrfordshire, at the extraordinary a^e of one
bandred and seven years. The deceased lived vrith his
daughter, who ia now about ei|^hty-five year* of ajje, in
a imall miid hot near Coddinicton Cross, aad was fornu'rly
A fiinn labourer of rery industrious habits. For many
years, however, be has been supporto4 by parochial relief.
Somct few years ago Mr. Treheme and Mr. Andrewsi, of
BMtmry, viiited the old raan» and were surpriited to tied
him in want of many necest^ar^^ articlan, such ha iwiU
dothing» Ac, whereupon they mmU mi appeal to the
inhabitant?* on his behalf, and sufficient nionty wan raided
to bay such oeeemiries as he stood in noed of. The
deceased was In pomessioa of all hi4 faculties np to the
time of his death. He freely iailtilged in the habit of
•mokin^."
Feihapg^ lookinj^" at the flate and the naftie^ it is
only a hoax played otY upon the U'weeder Jmtnmi,
A. .0,
StTRKAMES nf BOKESDAT BooK. — In (?oin^
through the index to the Domesday Survey, I finti
the names *'Kogerug Dem $a!vd domtna^i" and
** Adam filiua Durandi Malts opibtis.'' I presume
that these were the surnames of the persons re-
ferred to, and think them sufficiently curiona to
make a note of ihem.
The name of Ro^er appears to have been sin-
gularly associated with gallantry and politeness^
far I have the impression of a mediaeval seal
bearing the device of a mun carrying a roie, mA
the legend, '^ Sigillum Rogeri qaasi rosa gemts."
Again, ijir Hoper de Coverley is, and ^nll erer
be, our beau-ideal of the gallaat gentleman.
ILB.
SiOKBOAEDS* — The latest phaae of the tamp9*
ance movement is, as your readers are probftblj
aware, the institution of pablic-housea witWtCn
drink. One or two of these houses hare beaa
opened in Liverpool, and have been attended icit^
a tolerable amount of suoceasi The foUowiagii '
a copy of a signboard over one of these tempe^J
ance publichouses, and some future hiitoRflaj^
aignlxmrds may perhaps be grateful for its )
■ervation in the columns of " N. <fic Q/* : —
** A pablichouse without the drink,
Where men miy read and smoke and thiak*
Then aober home return.
A Htepping'Stone this house youll find ;
Come^ leave roar mm and bKi behind.
And inter pleasures learn.
♦* Workman*8 Rert, Admisaion IdL per ireek,
from 6 to 10."
Baron Liebtg*s TKSTntoTnr to thi: vitril
Services op distijtquished Frej^ci
AKD LtTERABY Men.— Liebig, the c*.l .
tjiical investigator and author, to wh\>iu i
tural science and progress are so much indobi
paid a handsome compliment, the other dav
meeting of the Academy of Sciences at M
to the scientific and literary men of Par"
he stated how much he (torty-eight ya
and other Germans had been indebtt^d Uj 1
men of science and othew, when first viati
Paris for the purpose of prosecuting their tti
amidst the abundant means aflbrded by that {
city. Baron Liebig mentioned, in particular, t
names of Oay-Lussac, Arago, Dulong, Th^nsii'
all men of first-rate eminence — to whom he i
other Germans were deeply grateful for i
them by the hand, and givinyr them evio
sible aid and encouragement, rhe Baron i
could mention many of his countrymen — suii
nrituraliats, and orientalists — who, like hit
thankfully remember the active support irk^
they met with from the savans and the UteratiJ
I'aris. A warm sympathy for all that is i
and good, ho said, and an unselfish hospitJ
are amon^ the finest traits of the French
racter. The French, the Boron said^ will i
again be actively engaged on th© neutral |
of scientific pursuits, in which the best
both nations must meet ; and by this m
efforts of both, united in a common cause,
by degrees, help to calm down the bitter fee.
of the French agidnst German v — feelings
deeply wounded national pride— the oonsequeaoi
of tne war which was forced upon Germany.
©vwyi
mindsi
, Amul is, 7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Saeb DotAg of peace und goodwiU, proceeding
frrnn so COT men t a quwter^ must have a happy
iSecty and will be lifiiled with satisPaction on every
iuuiiL The new *' reign of terror '* which now
prerails cimnot last ; and the voices of th*^ elo-
quent 8acre>^or3 of riuizot, Coufiin, and Ville-
of Olivier and Blainville, will goon apuin
to heard by admiring and thronfring audipn(?e<i,
iriihocit fear of being drowned by the thunder
^omnoD. John Ma chit.
JOHIC KeMPK, AkCH bishop op CA:STEKBXrKY. —
ft mAy interest your correspondent Mr. W. J.
Lqfite, who makes mention of the arms of this
irdihlahop at p. 254 of the present volume of
N. & Q./* to say that they are emblazoned in
fine eaat window of Bolton Percy church. lie
Archbishop of York from 1420 to 1452,
he waa translated to Canterbury, The
ftTd those of Kempe — Field pilea, three
or, two and one, and round the shield a
Vndttre engrnilod or,'- impaling those of the see
' Oanterbury* Above is the fij^ure of the arch-
the size of life, habited in chasuble, dal-
embroi<lered stole, sandals, and jewelled
left hand holding a crozier, whilst his
is raised in the act of benediction,
hcnd is ?nirroundcd by a nimbus or glory.
The wiriiliJVr in 'jue^tton is said to contain some
of the tioest Utteenth- century gla^s in the county
d York. JoHK FiCKFOBD, M. A,
Bolton Percy, near Tatlcaster.
ThB LinRARIES AJTD MUSEITMS OF rARIS. —
The folio wini-^ extracts from some French news-
pap^r^ D'lw hi ! ne me may be welc<:>oie to some
erf Totir :vii Irrs who take an interest in the fate
of tliL' 2rj l^ij<)id libraries and museums of Paris: —
Lt Jrvtp^ of March 7, q^uoling from the Cmi-
Mkuiiomielt says : —
" S n< iin ^!<^ nog ^leniUdes ^tablisAemftata artiatiqueft i^t
•eiv I R'ricuscmtat soutfert du bombardenif^nt
bo: ;3&iens.
' '■ ' -ppUc de UViergt^ i Saint- Sul'
fi' t restaur^ apr^ no iocendie
pi^ ^^ratJgnure.
r li Luiein lK»urgt tout rempli d*<EUvrea d'att,
I ^lOJim tin ^elat d'obus. Toutes les statues
Lw "f intflcttji
^B ** < a n^u tin obua, qui a oias^ dans
Ki I Uo^iques, an degit ^ui eat i^rala^ 4
im^ r]U!n/.4iii<; tie fflille francs.
•* Li cfjBTfrtorc dii dome da PanlliAin a bi«i ^t6
tOfinMH' : ' 1^, --... i,3ncontr(f sons
bowiV' '!« taille^ i1
yi^ arret nes du baroo
^ La arrre da Jardin del Plantei qui a 4t4 loocli^ eat
d^nfp-n "^ i qu'en ce moment on nc voit plus
tnoedr i
**yot3 ibl« d6fne dw Tnvalides, le Louvre,
h ' I Palais lacathedrale de Paris* notre
Yii le de Saint-Germ ttln-dcs-Pr^ sont
laittfTClDCUi oaui^.
"En resume, i\ n'}* a eu i i imr-
ticaliil^res, on gTHU'iti quautitf ut
aoulTert. Kn moins de six nioi., ..^- .i:„^„.:^ LL*ut
rt^pare.*'
The same newniaper of March 10 pives the
following paragraph uom the Journal officiel: —
'^On s'occupo flctivement au Musde du Louvre do
i^tnblir lea coHectious dAnn P^Ut oil ellej* tftaient nvant
k siL^ge. D'ici a pcu de jours, plasi«ur5 ealles pourront
etre ouvertes au public
A gain » the Tentps of March 14, says: —
** Plusicnrs eallea du mu9^ du IjOuvtc vicnnent d*ctfp
reortrani*<-eH, \jq pobHn pourra lea visiter h. parlir du
mardi 14 mars, de dix beutt^ du tnatin ^ qaatre bearen
du 5oir. On entreni par I'eioalier da Henri II, pavilloa
dij I Horloge."
HzyET W. He^fret,
Markbam House, Brighton,
An Old Oxford EpioRAii,^ — CyrH Jackson was
Dean of Christ Churchy Oxforcl, and Nathiwi
Wetberell (blaster of University College), Dean
of Hereford, about the beginning of this century.
Wetherell when elected to the headship of Uni-
versity waa very poor. At that time the Oxford
Canal was not completed, and the shares in it were
selling at almost nominal sums. Wetherell, be-
ginning to receive an income from his coUegv,
bought shares in the canal, which ulliniately were
worth six hundred pounds per share, and became
very rich.
fir. Burton, a canon of Christ Church, had a
daughter who was very clever, and wrote some
very pretty verses. She was known by the name
of **Jack Burton.*' Among other littl»> pocmj*
was the following, on the above little history of
Cyril and Nathan : —
*» As C^Til and Nat ban were walkinft by <|nccn'«,
Siiya'Cyril to NatbjiUt * Wo two am botli deanif
And*bi$hopa perhups we nbnll Ixs.*
Saysi Nathan, 'Yon ma}', but I never shall »
I will tiikc care of my little caual,
And leave you to look after tbc sea ' («f ')."
I was a member of University College before
1800, and remember the prtnluction of this epi-
gram. I never saw it in print, F. C. P*
^urric^.
AXARKALA, FAVOUIUTE WIFE OF AKBAK.
** Ilia nngraciana »oa (B<?lim), bolding fast bis former
impiety, and b«ifig at thu bead of an artnv of seventy
thouAOiid men, upon wbom lie bad conferred many com-
mandst refused to do it, uuleas be would give a general
amnesty to all tbo conspirators, whose livo^ ana well-
beinfjs were ha dear to nim as bis own. Tbis anawer
inccnaed bis fatber to a denial, whereupon he dislodges
hifl «rmy, sndmnrched to Elabusse, where he commandci!
all aorta of c<oln, of gold, fiilver, and bra^H to bo stamprd
with hia cmn name and motto ; which, to vex bia father,
he eent to him, and besides cotirted bij ftither'a wiU'
Anarkala." — Sir Thomns Herbert*^ TVore/* into Asia and
Africa, vol. i. |>/4I!> ; Harris's Voyagci and Travelt^
" Vet, notwithstanding that long-continued custom
322
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4t*s.vn. AiKrti&.7L
ther€ frir ihe eldest aon to succcc^I the fnihftr in tlmt
frreat empire, Achabar Cha, futherof the lute king, n|ion
luf^h and jn»t displojisare tAkcn against his 9011^ for
dimbing up into tha bed of Anarkelee, his f(ithi?r*3 moat
b^lrivetl ivifo (whoM name Aij;<:iiilicd the Kernel of a
l^jrar»jjratiftt«*), and for other base actions of his which
tttirn?d up his father* high displeai^ure a/»ainrtt him,
resolved to break that ancient custom ; and therefore in
his H retime protested ihat not he, luit his ^randrhild,
SultJtn Coohsnrroo (Khusni), wliom he alwuya kept in
his court» should succeed him in thatcmptr^/'— -1 Voifage
to Knit Intiia^ by Mr. Edward Terry» IJIiaplain to Sir
ThomRA Koe, prinitd with the Travt^t* into hojU IndUt of
Sig. Fietro Delia Valle. Londnn, hJGo.
AoAr Kali, meaning' the poniepratiate bud, is
FupposfCfl to have been the pet name iriven by
Akbar to his favourite wife Donna Juliana, of
Portuguese extraction, with reference to Cfratijida/
tb© last Mooriab stronghold in Spain, which hiia
A Bplit poraeipranatfl, it» armorial bearing, carved
or painted on iln public buildings, from the iu-
troductiou of which fruit into Europe tbe imme
is fmd to be derived,
When Abul Fagl, thia enlig-htened minister of
Akbar, was basely murdered by order of thu Prince
Selim, in a.t>. 1003, the Selima Begum wm sent
on an embassy to n4*ftb4s, the modem AJlah-
sibad, to hrinpr bim to court at Af^ra, when ro-
ported to be sincerely penitent for thia execrable
murder. According- to one accountt, tbe Beg-um,
or Siilt/ma Selinia, was only the adoptive, and
not the real mother of Selim, afterwards Jaban-
gir ; but either way she would appear to have
been the eanie aa AnAr Kali, supposed to bo the
Poppa, or Piipi Bai, proverbial for misrule, among
the lUjputR,
Were Selini, Mnnid anil Danial, the sons of
AJfbar, all three, the sons *tf one and the same, or
by dilferent mothers? and in what Hindu worki^
is any account giren of the misdoinjis for which
the Poppa Bai has become proverbial among- the
E/ijputs ? R K. W. Ellis.
Starcro9s, near Exeter.
"AwrjfA Chbistl** — This prose is usually as-
signed to St. Jrrnatius, Some say that St. Thomas
Aquinas wa*? the writer, Ramboch, I believe,
makes it doubtful, only so far committing himself
as to say that it is found in a bonk of devotion of
the fourteenth eentury. T^^ it to be f^mnd in tbe
workB of St. Thomas P" and if not by that saint, to
whom IB the Catholic world indebte<l for euch a
devotion ? IL A. W,
Madllk, Auretti,— I have an engravinjr, date
] 746, of Mad He. Auretti, a theatrical personage, of
whose history I should be glad to know some-
thiDg. A. E. Barrett.
[Thcrt are two engraved portraits of thia once*f«nied
* Pomarittm Britftmiicum, Hcnrv Phillip*, FJLS.t
p, 312.
f 4\fount3tuart Blphins^ion^'^ HlBioru of India, voVu,
p. 307,
dpiecr in the British Mtiseam,
by T. HyUy, t)f her j><»r9oattl i
Horace Will pole, in a letter t ,
Dec. J3. 1742, nays, " We are n 1.
Barberina and the Aaretti, a ch
' Old Ballad. — Can any of your conwpoiul<>nti
inform me if tbe ballad of which I giT»i thif tint
verse (it consist.s'of seFan) is printed? Ibftt^tt
in black letter 12uio, and the heading is ** A V\*!^
sant Song." The words seem familiar to me, n*
I cannot at this moment trace it to any prmtei
source : —
*• For eanhly chance, for joy or painc
I neither hope nor doc desparc :
In sickne-**e, health, in losse or g»ine,
M}* God I praise, and doe not care
For wealth, ftir want, for well, for ytot.
I force no friend, 1 feare no foe^"
Jas. Cros^lel
•* BuTDEs OF Enderbt.^'— What is tlie Vp^d
which gave its name to the tune of th^**Bridci
of Mavis Enderby/* referred to by Jean Io^'vImw
in !ier poem of the *' High Tide on the I'^n-t af
Lincolnshire, 1571 "P and why was thi^i tun*' m^
as an alarum Y A, B.
[Thia query appeared In our S'^'* S. v. 496.
elleiling a reply. An acconnt of the remarbibiU* I
tide in 1571 is printed from Holin&hed in Pishey 1
soti't JlUtory of Ba»ton^ edit. 18.i^, p. 68.1
Heharkarlb Clock. — I bare been iafi
by a correspondent at Barcelonft that there ill
sale, or has been lately sold in London, a 1
curious and vfiluable astronomical clock, 1
R watch and clock midcor of the name of ]
of Barcelona, and said to be worth Ti/KN)/, {
Being desirous of discovering whether the j
clock is still offered for sale, I shall be
obliged if you can elicit any particulars* co
ing it; and" if it 13 in London, where it is to j
viewed. A, L. McEwa:
tiU Threadneedle Street, Loodon.
**C0UTUMIEB OF THE OrDTSR OF THE Vl?]
tioiT OF THK Blesse II Virgin Mary.*' — I
been trying for some time to see or to purcbai
copy of the above book. I have not met witlij
at the British Museum or Sion College Libn
Could any of your readers help me ? IL A. '
A Geh Qtery.— I have a yery beautiful i
taglio representing, I believe, the head of IVrsei
It is signed a. niXAEP. Is this tbe name of I
modern French or German artiat, writi* n in il
letters ? Was there an muicnt Greel.
of this name ? and, if so, what doc-
stand for ? P, W/l
Hotel de Luxembourg, Nice.
N3W German Flag. — In tbe TiVwittof ]
1871, I read what follo\v^ :—
*'TiiK GEU-M.iN Empike.— The new GsRiuni iioptfii^
fi&9,Vvas itist been decided ujKkn^ and Si adoplad alM
v
D.ApiaLi6,7h] NOTES AND QUERIES.
323
asd argent, and haa for sapporters th« two
* with maces of til ePruMian ciesU— Globe,**
rti is not used in Eogland. Guillim^ edi-
, p* 25, gives the akieM of Panowitz m
t, " Parted per pale and base, gules,
id sable/' It is given in the Wtmen-
kMBoat of Panwitz» and is so quoted by
^Hk this is nt>t mi-partL The bearing
HVt know, rare everywhere. It is seen^
mce^ in the coat of Falier of Venice :
lo, semipartito d' oro e di azznjrro nel capo,
argento ** ; and of Foscari : *' Spaccato,
Ito nel capo, L di azzurro col S. Marco
da, % d' argeuto ; aopra V oro." llere^ in
,1, is the dexter aide of the upper half,
>i«ter: the whole lower half is gold,
rhAt is this new German imperial flag ?
le one who knows put it into intelligible
I ? It would also be interesting to hear
ddon is occupied by the supporters of a
D. R
Lodgu, Malvern Wclla.
t, — A voung lady trusts that the learned
tors to' '* N. & Q'*' will not find it beneath
ftir dignity and their knowledge to ac-
ler with the emblematic meaning of the
rse. Before venturing to appeal to them,
searched for it in rain m all the Langimges
jts and other similar authorities to which
icceas. MoiiXB di Alto.
ion ocean to uj^ we may aav b just on our
emblem of a good old En^lj^h cv\»-
go *^ oat of faahion when tlii) gorw
nestiQa occn
ra LAKATTT^, — Apropos of " Fog/* why is
^ called yorkMrefot/f
IIorsE OP Co3tMo:^s* Lists. — Is there
published in which I can find complete
le Iriah Ilouses of Commons P
Edmukd M. Botle.
I •• Pflriiamentflnr Rcjpfister of the Irish House
M from 15>So to 17G9" i* printed in the Libtr
Pnbtifori^m Hiijtrnift; Xn-m^^ the Report of
6Ss ptiblishedby the Kecoid Commiasion^ 2 vols.
8w Part 1, pp. 1-40. For a coatiouation of
I the yenr ISOO, coii»ult The Jnurnain of the
Onnnutns of IrtUind^ vob. viii. to xix. DubUl^„
^^■pET. — Kersey's Elenmits of AhjJira
IPKq. M.nc.Lxrill.) IS very atfekionately
by the author to his patrons the Den-
is dedication^ doubtless familiar to many
lic-al scholars, I have given m eatcTisOf
hope that it may elicit some information
learned correspondents conceniiug two
mnected with the same, which hitherto
len unable to obtain,
owing is in accordance with the original,
exeeption of some of the capitals : —
**To Alexander Dflji ton of HUludon in the eounty of
BackP, Esq Hire, and Mf Edmund I>paton his brother;
tbe hopefal blossom^ nnd only olTj^pring of the truly just
and vertuotus Edmund Denton, K&p ; son nnd hdr'of S'
Alexander Denton, Knt, A faithful patriot, and eminent
fuflerer in onr late intestine wars, for hia lovaltv to his
late llajoftt}' King Charles the First of ever-bleaaed me-
mory: John Kersey, in beatimoDV of hU gratitude, for
signal (avonra conferred on him by that truly noblo
family; which also gave both birth "and nourishment to
hi* mathematicai stadies» humbly de*licates his labours in
thia Treatise of the Fitments of'lhe Algebraical Art."
I have searched several biographical works, but
cannot lind any mention made of Sir BJdmund
Denton, Knt,, and» us a matter of course, neither
of hia troubles. A reference to where such may
he found will be gratefully accepted. .-Vbo, what
were the circumstances which sufficiently inter-
ested the Benton family in the author s hebalf \\a
to influence them to^ve *^both birth and nourish-
ment " to hia algebraical studies ?
J. Perrt.
Waltham Abbey.
[Sir Alexander Denton, Knt (bom 150G. died in Jon.
lC4-i-5), resided at Hillesden Uouiie, Backs, which w«*
garrisoned in 1641 for King CharbM I., an<l its situ*
ation, about fifteen miles from Ox^ford and eight from
Aylesburj', rendered it a place of importance. la 1643
it waij taken by the Parliamentary forces, of which
VicajTS, in hlii Ptiriiamentuty Chronicle^ 1646, ii. 131, 133,
baa given the following account:—^' It waa taken by a
party that went from Newport Pagnell, and some from
about Banbury, they being in all not above an hundred;
yet there were in the house 140, many whereof were
tlicn taken pnaoners, and about IQO arms, but Sir Alex-
ander hi tiir elf escaped." .... ** The taking of Hillesden
Ho use, whkh a week before the garrison of Ayleiibur)'
attempted, but could not take; after which time, anil
before we endeavoured it, the enemy had sent in two or
three loads of ammunition, where were taken al>ove 200
priHoner?, about twelve barrels of powtler, and propor-
tionable match, ail their arms, and about tifty horae,
which service was much to the e8j*o and coniftirt of the
poor inhabitants of the almo^it waatc-d county of Buck-
inghamshire, which was oppre^ist'd by them ; and by the
countenance of whitih house, great sums of money and
contribution.<i were raised both for themselves and Oxford,
and a regiment of foot, and a eompktiiij^ Col. Smithes
rejgiment of horse, waa speedily intendedr where ubo were
taken Sir Alejtander lien ton and thi^ said Col. Smith,
beaidea two UeM officers and divers captains." The pedi-
gree of the Denton famiJv of Hillesden is given in Lipi-
comb's BiicftM, iii. 17, — ^I'he works of John Kersey arc
better known thim hij peracnal histoiy. He wa^ born in
ItJlO, and died about IGIJO.]
" KiLMEKY." — In what collection of ballads
shall I hnd one hearing the above name P It gave
a name to and apparently suggested the idea of a
novel by William Blacky published about a year
ago.
K. R
I'* Kilmany " i^ the thirteenth Bard's Song in Xight IL
of The Quten* Wake, A Legendary Poem, by James
Hogg, thf Ettrick Shepherd.
** Bonny Kilmcnv ^aed u^ l\k%^«L%
But it Wttsna to m<»t l>xHrt\T«ft mw^r ^^ A
324
NOTES AJiD QUERIES.
** La Belle Dame s^ufs Merci/' — From what
source did Keata deri?e the original idea of this
dm ? F. GLEDSTAiras Wauoh,
[Moat probably from the poem of tbc saihc nam^
jBliemUv aUribatod to Alain Chartier; but which M.
pAttHn ^ATifl (MamacritM frangtiis^ vu, 252) regards as
hnviu^ beea writteu hy Jean Majrot,]
Portrait rAiNTDTG. — Wanted the name of any
writer on portrait-minting in water-colours who
treats moro diffufioW on the subject of draperies,
&C*, than Mr. Merrifield does. T. IL O,
MEi>i.i:r7AL Seal found ui the Isle of Ely :
lOBERT WiLSOlf OF MaRCH, 15 TnE IsLE OP ElT.
'A friend of mine htis stmi me animpreasion from a
seal, about three quarters of an inch in diameter.
In the centre, on an heraldic rov«e, liea a lion
curled up and asleep ; and round him is the in-
scription, EN LE ROSE LE LHTf REPOSE.
The braw seal from which thii* is taken was
foun<J, I am told, in the rectory p^arden at Went-
worth, near Ely. From its general appearance and
the lettering, I should be inclined to place its
date about the fourteenth centuiy.
I have also an octavo print repreaenting a man,
in the drees of sixty years ago, resting his left
arm on a csouped pillar, on which the word " Pro-
vidence" in inscribed, and holding in hiB right
hand a scroll bearing this inscription : —
** I, K<)b« rt Wilson of Mwrchp iu the Isle of Ely, Cura-
bridgeahirc, .ijn of opinion tbftt^ tak*; Ent^lond^ Scotland,
ftud Imlatul, tbe West Indiis and America, sea and land
together. 1 have seen more of tboae parts of tbc world
than any man exiAtin^/*
Can any of your Cambridgeshire correepondentB
inform me whether the Bt^al mentioned belonged
to any county family there, or waa merely a per-
sonal bad go and motto of some long-distant
^jDoetor? Lysons says the manor waa annexed to
oMce of sacrist to the monastery of Ely,
"And secondly, as to who Robert Wilson of March
was^ and on what grounds he rested his some-
what pre ten tiouia chii m? S A ii u el Saj^' j> arb,
28^ Glo«t€r Plac«, Hyde Park.
Song, '^LArRiGER Horatius." — Can you in-
form me where I can find the words of a song
called " Lauriger Horatlus *' ? It used to be sung
at one of the American universities,
T. J, WADDmOHAM.
Sttrtng Fahily.^ — Any genealogical or other
information respecting the following persons will
oblige : — Nathaniel Styring and Jane AVatson,
married in Rotherham 16(i3; Thomas Styriug, bom
1726; John Styringf bom 1720; Kobert Styring,
born 1720 J William Styring, born 173:i,— all of
Miaaon. C» W. STyRiKO.
Eldan Mtjunt, Leeds,
Sternuold anv Hopkiks. — la there any lrut\i
litTtnc of March 1, that the following
the joint product of these twin poeta? —
" And bow did he oooimlt their frott*
Unto the caterpillar,
And eke the labour of tl
He gave to tbe grassliopper.'
Ry-tbe-bye, it is a little curious that the Plidiai
should have been twice versified by a cmnbtiiatton
of poetic talent. The task was not too greit hi
one writer^ and wo cannot compare the saooeis
achieved bv Messrs. Sternhold & Hopkins, or
Messrs, Ta'te & Brady, with that which IOC.
Ercltmann-Chatrian have won. C* J. R
[In the first edition (1548-0) of Crrtayne Pmime* \fj
Thomas Stembold (without Hopkins), tbe verse mil*
follows I—
** Nor how he did commit their fmilcB
Unto the caterpyller :
And all tbe labour of their bandes
He gave to the gmMehopper "
Psalm Ixxviii rer, KH
Tbe same reading h givtn in the folio edition of UK
by Tbomaa Sterahold, Jobn Hopkimi, and otherk]
S UK-DIAL Queries. — 1. What is the beat pr: -
tical book, in English, French, or Latin^ oi.
construction of sun-diala ^
2. Where shall I find the most complete
count of mottoes suitable for sim-dials ? I '
those quoted in '' N. & Q."
3. ^Vhere c^in I lind picturesque desigm
mural sun-dials? I suppose these are not to
found in n collected form, Kc fere nee, t:
to even one will oblige.
4. Will not some of your corre$p<tndentis ia
England or on the Continent, who know of quaint
or picturesque Bun-dialg, oblige the readers of
^ ' K . & Q." by a list of them ? P. W. &
Hotel do Luxembourg, Nic«,
A ToADSTONE RiKG. — I have a ring con
a stone of a brownish-fawn colour, set ii
The stone is about five-eighths of an inch by bi
an inch in size, and two-eighths of an inch thiei:
and has, according to the story in the family, "
in our posseaeioti for many generations. Vv e hii
always held it to be a toadstone, and traditioft-'
says it was efRcacious in preventing miscarriagsa
I should be grateful for any information on
suliject H. S. C.
Arts Club,
Umborove. — There ore several familiea of
name in Holland, and they say that their
tors were Scotchmen, A branch of the lJmbgr«ir»]|
family must, tlien, have emigrated from Scotlaai '
in lOOO or afterwards.
Some years ago, one of these Dutch Umbgrntcf
happening to be in Edinburgh, saw his very namtj
wntten on the plate of tome doors in that city.
If any Scotch Imbgrove can confirm the abcvro
fe\^lttft<4\it, and ^ve some information that would
•jAjsn^uoLu Aifit xiopjfirfs. — la mere any \Tu\tt \ w.^\tm«iai., ana give some inrormaiion tnai woina
^ iiie atatement made by a writer iu tke Iiiu«trtited \ Wto^ \\^X. xi-^u \\, \ SbNaalV fe«l much obliged.
\
4«»^ at VIL -Aj'ML 15/710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
325
I should aUo Hke to Icnow wliat arms the Scotch
fdmiljr bears, and if it Cftu retrace its ancestry
bftck till 1000. A Dutch Lady.
Bittrbavto.
Fkskcu Wbsletah Magazutk. — Can any one
iniknai me whether there haa been pubUthed
doi^blg this century a Wesleyan or Methodist
magazine in French ? I deeire to Bee the numbers
for 1830, 1831, 183i. I have reason to belkve
«uch a magazine haa been publiahed, but cannot
find it in the British Museum. J. F. H.
Choice of Words : ** Wi^jk '* or " Blink " ? —
Tho word wink is so often used instead of blinkf
when the meaning is that a person purposely
bUnds kimaelf. or shuts hi« eyes to any transac*
that I think the expre^^ion must be em-
yed himplj from imitation, and without a
lOu^ht that the word MWc, while being' more
elegant, really expresses in its symbolical sense
the meaning intended to be conveyed by the
term uinfi ; which, being associated with the habit
known as " ogling," had better be left solely to
exureis its own vulgar meaning.
Lexicographers give the same definition in the
of eacli word ; but I thiolc that good taste
mbolical analogy both seem to sanction
luaive uae of the term blink in the sense of
g oftt of sight," or ** purposely evading'*
any question or allusion. M. A, %
oana
ou.
Er)}ltr^,
Thu
OLD SANDOWN CASTLE, ISLE OF WIGHT.
(4^^S, vi, 5(39; vii. 103, 176.)
H. IL will be pleased to learn that the very
fin9 old carved oak chimney 'piece, to which he
'_ drew attention (p. 17o), has not been
to the destruction he deprecate.*?,
htj armorial bearings to which 11, 11. alludes
those of E-icbard Weston, first Earl of
i, Lord High Treasurer of England in
*n,rt, of Charles L^ Governor of the Isle of
c, which are boldly «ind artistically
; .:^ m thiis interesting r»>lic, which formerly
in the banqueting hall, but whicK ^*^ the
IdlmoUtion of the caaUe, was carefully preserved
I % tht; Boyal En^neers at Saudown ; until at
' W^^b, Application having been made officially to
itj the carving in question, after due
^^n, was made over to Lieut. -Colon el
'-'; A ois. n collateral descendant of the said
Richir L \\ . Inn, whoso family became extinct in
the dirt^ct male Hue on the death of Thomas,
fourth Earl of PorUand. R. E.
Tour c«MT«^p<Mi4eiit G» will, I trust, permit me
~ ht as to the date of the demise of
^1^ Earl of PortkBd, He
died at Wallingford House, near Wliitehall, on
March 13, 1634 (O. S.), not in March IGiiS.
My authorities in support of this correction
are — 1, The certificate m the College of Ai*ra«,
signed by Jerome Weston, second Earl of Port-
land, son and heir of the deceased, a copy of which
is appended to the Wvsimiormn antiqiiismmi^ H
eque^ria familioi Oenenhifia^ by Sir William Segar,
Garter King-at-/Vrms. 2. Harleian MS, 1137, in
which the armorial achievement borne at the
funeral of Richard Earl of Portland is delineated.
3. The inscription on his magnilicent monmuent
in Winchester Cathedral, which runs a^ follows :
" Depo^itina
ElCARDI WeSTOX, COMITIS POHTLAXI*,
Magoi An^ilflc Thesaararii
quo munere fungi
cirpit
anno Rcf^k Caroti quartOt
idqiie aiinul cum vita oxuit
atiuo pretlicti (loDiini regis
luuioque Domini Kf^dumptoris 1634)
d«cimo tcrtio die MartiL*'
I maj' add that King Charles, "who dearly
loved him,-* visited the dying earl in liia last
nionients, and commanded the court to wear
mourning for him. His son Jerome, second Earl
of Portland, was appointed to succeed lum as
Lieutennnt-General of the province of Southajnp-
ton, Captain of the Isle of Wight, and Governor
of Carisbrooke Castle and of aJl the fortresses in
the said island; but he lost these appointments
under the Commonwealth. L A* N,
TRAPFS ** VIRGIL.'^
C^*' S. vu. 2370
Having read Trapp^s translation of the JEncid
with satisfaction, I otler mv opinion that it has
been unduly depreciated, I cannot deny the ap-
plicability of "cold" toTrapp; but he has the
merits of fidelity, pains-takmg, and a thorough
knowledge of his autlior. I know no translation
so faithful, and none in blank verse more spirited.
Mr» Collins, in his Ajwicnt Classics for English
Jitaden, has given an excellent essay on Yirgil,
and has generally used the translation of the late
Professor Conington, as good a scholar as Trapp,
and perhaps a better poet. I limit my comparison
to four passages: —
** Dixit, et avcrtcns rosea cervice refaUit
Ainbrosiieqae corns di%inum vertioc odorem
Spirnvcre; pedes ve«tia defluxit ad imos;
Et vera inccssu pattdt dea." — j^n, i. 402-5,
" She said; and as she turned, her rosy neck
Shone bright : her hair a fragrancy divine
Ambrosial breathfMi. Down falls her waving robfl.
And by her walk the goddeaa movea confe»ed/*
Trapp,
** Ambrosial treaiM ronnd her head
326
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4««^avu. ArEmis.-n.
Her falliog robe her footatepa swept,
And showed the goddeaa a§ she BtepV^—Conin^iu
•* Hie pater Jilni^aR, intentia omnibuis nnus
FaU renAiTiibat divoiOt cursusqite docebat :
CooUcuU tandem, factoqus Ixic fine qaieviL*'
^m. UL 716.
** Tljufl Prince .^nea;, while aU silent sate.
Alone related tlic decree* of heaven,
And his own voyages described : be stopped
At length) and ending here, retired to rest/'
Trtrpp.
•• So Kinj; iEneaa told his tale.
While all beside were still —
Rehearsed Ihe fortunes of hi* sail,
And Fate's mysteriouj will :
Then to ita c1o»g his lej^rend hrou(;ht»
And gladly took the re^t he sought.'* — Ciminffttm,
** His medinm di^tis sernionem abrtimpit, et auraa
Mi^TSk fugit, seque ex oculis avertit ct auft-rt;
Linquens nuika metu canctantern et multa pflranlcm
Dtcere : suscipiunt famula) conlttpsaquG membra,
Marmoreo refertint thalamo, stratistiuc reponuni/'
JEn. iv. a8«-^Hl\
*^ This said, !^he in the middle of her speech
Breaks otT abrupt, and sickening shana the ]i|fht ;
With loathing turns her eyes from hift, and leAvcs
Him waverinfT, and n thoasntid ibings to Bay
Irresolute in fear. Her mn'vh .support
Her bcKly as she sinka into tlieir arms.
And lay'her fainting on tlie royal bed,**— TVirpp.
" Her fp«ech half-done, she breaks away.
And sickeniug »h [ins the ejo of day.
And tears her from his R:ftzc.
While he, with thousand things to say.
Still falters and delays.
Her aervants lift the sinking fair,
And to her marble chamber bear."^CtfM#rt^/wi.
" Disec, pner, virtutem ex me, verumf|oe taborem,
Fortnnam ex sdds.^'^-^Kn. \1L <43'j-<1.
** True toE and virtue learn, dear yonth, from me»
FortTune from others." — Trapp,
•' Learn of your fatber to be greats
Of others to be fortunate." — Commfton.
Mr. Collins my% i —
"The recent jn I mirablc tran^Ution of the y7?M«if into
the metre of Scott by Mr. Conington will undoubtedly
t*ke its pla«!e henceforward as by far the moat p<X'ticaI,
Ai it ii also the most scholarly and faithful, rendering of
the origiiiaL"-P. 7.
I have taken the epeciiuens of Coiibgton'a ver-
sion from Mr, Collins. I do not think tliat in
lidelity or poetry Trapp sufter;? by the comparison.
Trapp's preface to the A^neid^ and " Introduc-
tory Eeraarks ** prefixed to the fourth book, are
well worth readiniz, and bis notes are learned and
uaeful. He was Profeasor of Poetrjf at Oxford,
and published hia Pnrlettiorws PoeticiP, Oxon,
1711-10; London, ITV^O, 2 torn. The lai*t edition
ifl neither scarce nor denr; and I think that those
who buy and rem! it will not feel that tbeir
money or time bas been misapent, II. B, C»
U. U. Club.
In Chalmers* Biop, Diet, the following curious ,
st/itement is made : —
** When he (Trapp) preached his tLBUM ienooii it
Oxford, 1739, it was ohsenred that the Ute Rer. 0^
Theophilus l..eigh, Master of Balii>l College, and tMH
Vice- Chancellor of Oxford, stood up all the time of l^|
preaching, to manifest Ma higlP»ense of m reapoctAt^s
character."
An anonym ona epigram, found in TTte Fetftoon^
1767 (p. i^tl), w severe upon Trapp ns a Iranfllator
of Virgil, but shows that hia pleaching WMheld
in eatimation : —
" Mind but thy preaching, Trapp* translate no further:
Is it not written* *Thou shalt do no muriiiBr * ? "
Asas.
CHIGNONS.
(i^ S. vii, 93, 201.)
No doubt jour learned correapnndenla Me
MacCabe and HonoKn? rightly assume lb
Iftdiea^ chi^wfis are to be trac<;^d far back in and
guitj. There is, indeed, proof enough of thitii
German and Horaan engra%-ed gems, and on f
walla of the Pompeian bousea there is a picta
of a Roman lady putting on the pafh^ and i
mother about to nurae her child, in the picture (
a Roman farmyard, in which the ladies
perceptible chufnom^ but much smaller than tbasi|
now worn. 1 have aleo seen nmnv mcilii^q*
illuminationa in which a fuU-si^t' : i^ «p.|
parent. There need surely be no w . ' ^«»I
at this; there are so few ways posj*ible of (
the hair, that every way has surely been oferJ
and over again anticipated. But now iat mi
wordr^I have a copy, which waa made a jir^-l
sent to me by one uiterly ignorant of the natu»4
of the book, of the MSmoires tie Cmnfwm. It I
belonged to Thackeray, and has hi?^ autoi^TAph in
two volumes, and his crest and monogram stauiped
on all pix. It was purchaaed at bis sale, and in 1
apite of ita '^ unutterable baseness/' as Carlyle bttJ
it, haa been diligently read by its late owiurjl
|(erha|)a as an historical study. In vol. ii. chap, aLl
the Chevalier, speaking of one of lus many CD^I
queata, aaya: —
*' Elle tftait coiffee en chevenx avec w« tftperU ekiguUki I
main je gtissais ld>-deasas, tant t'idee d*une pcmK|ai|
m^offusquait.*' I
Here, then, u a chif/non proper in the ead/ I
days of Voltaire and Rousseau — a falsu cA^«<i^ [
which the delicate Chevalier removed, il Iftj
ditricult to asiign the exact date to this extract j I
hut Casanova was bom in 1725, and, aa this oc- |
curs in a very early pei-iod of hie career, we m»j
put it down 'to about 1747 to 1750, The woid
chifjnon occurs In Hamilton and Legros* ^xcelfeot
Ftmch Dictimtary (18G4) befoiva the faaliion wm
rcauscitated» hut it is explained as urn ^hu/nm
(chez lea femmea), back hair twisted in a knotr
and therefore not necessarily false hair, Bj tha
way, can any of your readers tell mo wht't'i
these memoirs ofCaaanova are, as Carljle *•
I, Afsil 15. 71.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES,
327
elleTe them, suthentic j or whether, like
wjn* of the l»uhftrry, they urt* only partiftlly
"on fact? ' Uajn Friswell.
isell Street, Blooinsbury S<iuiire.
•• BAKOX " NICHOLSON.
(4^ S. vi. 477 ; v\l 18, 280.)
le who, throughout a lon^ asaocintion with
i and conditions of periodicals, has scrupu-
IbdtJiiBed from writing acythjug which
y necessitate thf? relegation of the Tolume
■Mr shelf/' I should like to explain that
pwa^ona to The Toicitf written at a very
feTwere not of a kind that need make luo
I life ft^amed to own their authorship,
the Tou'n came out (June, 18;j7) I had
lined my seventeenth year, hut some
lof metropolitan life I had ^n^nt the editor
I me an introductinn to Konton Nicholson
pgular engagement, which continued for
•'o yearar Ihe social e-'^sBys and the dra-
ices throug:h the voliimiia for 1888 and
mine, and my acquaintance with Xichol-
3 mo to state that he had much more
of fancy than many would suppose who
fe of tfie man from the " Cockney Ad-
and the afterwords notorious ** Judge
Hia exceasive kindliness of heart
the constant resource of the ** hard-up/'
llH If- sovereign or the half-crown was sure
pted bv Any applicant with a tale of woe.
ft Fafstali" with Bordolph and Nym at
mer. To the list Mr. Hates haa given
works" one may be added, whilst one at
aat be subtracted from the catalogue.
^*s Aoctejtt published in a serial form in
lltun^ some clever and utterly unobjftc-
|tketche8. With **Bos" he was never
!|; and the ** slender and not ill-written
Y of The Cigar and Smoker s Cmnpanion — ^
fprinted with and without my sanction
k diversity of titles — was one of my own
ttsionfi. Some fourteen years ago Mr.
JMuired through *^ N. & Q/' what autho-
te was for a statement that Old Parr had
I his skin by an absorption of the juices
jco. J nmy now tell him that I am re-
b for the as^rtion, but I can by no means
fd its accuracy.
tttr be worth recording tlmt a high-priced
p*ehurc'h newspaper called The Crown,
in 1^39 at the present office of the
MayttzitH% in Fleet Street, was for »ome
by lient4:»ii Nichokr^n, who under the
Censor" attacked in The Crmtm the
of 77*c Town, and replied in 7*he Town
laughts of The Cronn, The artist of
Aichibald Henning, son of John
Henning the sculptor, and who died aged fifty-
nine, July 4, 18(.i4. Rentun Nichobctn died aged
fifty -two^ May 18, 1801, K. L. Bulkchard.
Kofllierville.
I did hope, after the judicious editorial note
(vi, 477)y we should not have heard any more of
this ** well-known public character " ; and it is
with greut regret that I now see the columns of
'* X. & Q." used aa the meiins of preserving thu
nimiu of one who plied a prolligate and prostituted
pen. And for what reason ? Simply because tho
details of " misuised abilities, discreditable ad-
ventures, and a genertdly wasted life," are told
'* in a racy and humorous style*" If the writer
was a friend of tho Baron 1 pity the writer, if
he has only a cacveihea scribiiitii, induced by the
" racy and humorous style/' I pity ** N* & Q."
1)068 the writer know that *' the once celebrated
weekly serifd, The Toicti^'' obtained its popularity
bv invading privatis life and holding up respect-
afjlo men U} ridicule and obloquy to gratify the
evil propensities^ of their ueighboura 1" Does he
know that The Town wfti* used as a means of ex-
tortion ? Can he aay that money was not paid for
the suppression of articles that might have blasted
the peace and happiness of many a virtuous
family? Doeii the writer know it was notorious
that the degraded being who aped a diatinguished
advocate and orator, had been clerk to one of the
city companies, and having been guilty of fruud,
sank to the low level of utt-ering the tilth and
nasLiness that made the ** Judge and Jury" enter-
tainment so popular .^ AVaa this person not a type
of all the actord that assisted at those indecent
orgie.^ ? It is the tirsit lime I have heard that
Dr. Maginn was on© of the protligate gang, I
very much doubt it, but as there is the writer^a
authority for it, I can only say that had Urantley
Berkeley's bullet taken ttTect, virtue, morality,
and public decency would have been benefited.
The writer, "without respect to his private
cliaracter/" claims a record for '* Ronton Wichol-
Bon as ft journalist and an author.^' If the claim
of the Baron be admitted^ there was another con-
temporary literar}' ruffian about whom the writer
can exercise his sympathy — liarnard Gregory. He
was '* racy and humoroua," but I tdocerely hope
ho will not be allowed to be enshrined in
« N. & Q.^'
The editor of Tlie Satirist met with too st^ti
an opponent in the Duke of Brunawick^ who
brought that ** author ond journalist " to justice,
and etfectufllly stopped the tount of his caluramea
and iniquities.
Tliere was another celebrated weekly serial
which appeared about the same time — Paul Pry,
This perhaps may invoke the writer^s ingenuity
to extenuate. How the editor of that ** racy and
humorous*' journal was incarcerated for an in-
NOTES A:N^D QUEEIES.
[4«kS.Va-A«i.l$pU
famoiia libel on hia own relAtive, the law pro-*
ceedings of the time wUl show.
jyid the character of the Bafon differ from these
two men ? WTiat is there that he ever did or said
over which dec^'iicj would not wish to draw a
veil ? Such penodicabi have, 1 trust, passed away
for ever : and the trials duriog the past week
show that there ia a stronger feeling than ever
with the "Britiah Jary'* to protect the aauctity
of private life; and a desire to teach **^journalifita
and authors" that ihey may aot calumniate with
impunity. Refei^nce to such papers must and
ought to be made in the civuse of history aa an
illubtratioQ of tbe taste and morals of a certain
period; but to drag into prominence an unblushing
autobiogranhy of a shameless life, is to malje
**N. & Q. ' a ** medium *^ which^ in my humble
opinion^ was never intended at its foundation.
1 firmly believe that *' journalists and authors ''
of the present day are of a much better stamp
than the notorious Baron , or woe upon society ,
which is now, throuf^h the cheap presa, addressed
and led by so many of them. CLiBitr.
WnO IS A LAIRD ?
(4^*' S. vi. 482 ; viL 12, 175, 243.)
C. S. K. asked whether *' every portioner of
laud " might be called a laird, and Da. C. Rogers
has replied after a manner which , as it humbly
aeema to us, ahowa that he has given the subject,
wMcb he admits to be ** an interesting one/'
almost no investigation^ for a greater number of
misconceptions could hardly have been announced
in less space.
Of the import of ** portioner '' there can bo no
doubt, being one that owns a portion, not the
whole, of a certain estate, property, or pendicle,
Portioners of land were not, however, necessarily
(hmini or lairds, although Du. Rogers says this
title was in process of timu applied to *'* land-
owners generally," DommuSj lord, and laird were
no doubt anciently synonymous ; so were the
denominations baron and freeholder, and in the
Scottish Acta of Parliament and ia formal writ-
ings the two latter titles were used indii^erently
with the former. Properly, however, a baron
was one whose lands were erected by the crown
into a free bai*ony, with the jurisdiction of '* pit
and gallows " {amifmsa etftirm). Still, although
the lands were not thus erected, if only the owner
held them immediately under the crown or prince »
or, in otlier words, in capites by ward and relief,
or blench (not in feu-farm, feod(pJirma)f he was
entitled to a seat and vote in l*arUament, and
wna on that account a veritable dommm^ laird,
bvron, or freeholder, (Act of 1 James I. c. 8,
J 425) ; Thomson's '* Memorial for Cranstoun," in
Cum V, Gibson, dmidtd 1818. {Fac. Ec|)otis*)
The huTons or Jaijds were, howeyer, c\ftad^«^
there were the greater and leaser barooa. No oni
was a laird who did not bold immediately d the
crown or prince ; all others were subraesils bj
having a subject superior interpo^d betweCQ
them and the crown. The diatinctive title of thil
latter class was ^* goodman.'*
*' And tliis remeint>er8 rae," aaya Sir G. Maekvne.
Advueate to Cliarttis m *' that such aa did hold thtir
lands uf the prince were called latrdt f but ftich ailldd
their luada of a snlj^ct^ though they were lan;e aad ^tdr
nnpefwT ykry noble, were oaly called goodmen^ fruiatbi
(jld French word htmne hommi, which woa ih« titU «Clll
maister of the family,"
Elsewhere the same learned author, in refeniaf
to the leaser barons, mentions that they w««
commonly called ** lairds," adding that ** a Uifd k
effect is but the corrupt form of a lord/^ (£a«y «
Frtcetl&kcy and mi the Sdmcn of Jlcraldrf/t ^&-
IW^.) And Sir G. Mackenzie'a view it ooih
finned by the ancient rhyme relating to Ui# 4i
family of Hamilton : —
" Duik HAmilton and Brandon,
ErJ CI I at tl row and Arraii^*
The I^ird of Kinneill,
The Gud«mnn of Draffeo/*
The Hamiltons were immediate vasMla ^
crown in respect of Kinneill on the Fi
oul y vassals of the abbots of Kelso as to
and other lands belonginjr to them sit
parish of Lesmaliago* The same di
title is observed in many of the Scotch
it will only be nBoessary to mention two
that of 2n Chas, I. (July 24, 1G44), and
nassed in the same reign of July 2, 1646. In
tormer are named the following noblemen
gentlemen, as forming portion of a war comudttM
within the presbytery of Lanark : —
*' The Earl of Lanerk, the Lord Orbislmtn* the Uad
of SUvertonhiU, the Goadm * " ' *^i- IxmmUtaSr
ton of llromtbili» the Gooi Lh^^ QtmAmm
i)f Haplooh. t he L.iird of Cu i 1 1 1 an of Alias-
ton, Eaneloch, \\'ondhill Y*", Sir Jimit,* S.4mervelL ill
l.aird of Cklaudtown, the Laird of Torrens^ the Go«4*
man of Oodjjtoun Btngia/^
and varioim others*
One of the greatest legal authorities of
Scotland can boast (the late Mr. Thomas '
son, Advocate and Deputy Clerk H^^tar)
observed that by the ori^^nal constitution of
SeottL?h Parliaments ** every man of lawful
holding his lands iVi eapUe of the crown, bo^
small his freehold, was bomid to g'ire suit
presence in parliaments and general
Hence they were domini or lairdSf in «8 mi
parliaments were composed only of three ctossss— •
the di^fied clergy, the barons, and oonni^
sioners of burghs. At another place Mr* Thomio
says that the terms ** freeholaer " and "bawo'*
were synonymona.
»* TbjtTe la no roason to 6tipp03« (his words «f») thiitlf
I "^Rtjlii jTeehoUer "WiJk TWft&. voi ^ay more extcnw *^
4» S. riU Aj-an. 16, '71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
329
(la the Act apon wlitch he was conuneDtUig) Uum its
and «t the ^me time he expl&iiia tliat *^ the tenn
b«n>o, or ^ttili boroD, never vrms applied to those
whose tonure was of thU sort " ; i. e. was a holding
_ m feu-lkrm (** Mem. for Cranstoun," sitprd : and
^■iireace is also made to Thomson's Acti of P, ,-
^^^G. Mackenzie's 06«-, o7i the Siainti^^} the same
HOibor's Criminal Law ; Hope's Minur Pracdcks ;
MMcmdmi Aciit: Skene, De Verb. Stg, i NisbeVs
Mtraldrjff vol. il ; and Seaton^a Law and Practice
ijf Meraldry), No matter^ then, whether a maD*i
huided estate was great or small, tho whole or
a poriiim of one ; he waa not a laird If he did not
bold immediately of the crown by ward and relief
or blench — t«iiupea known both as militaty,
Diu KoGCRS f^oQs into the explication of other
ttCloa or terms, but in that is equally unhappy.
Ihmmm was given to the greatt^r as well as to
t^ lesser barons, to knights of all kinds, and even
fiometimes disparagingly to the cleincsj as the
pope't* knights \ but it was never properly appliud
to genlictiun in general In the case of the greater
WoQa^ or those ennobled, it always preceded the
unija, and often also succeeded it when it was in*
tended that the party should be designed by
both hjs title and estates or some leading one of
tbe latter. A^ regards, however, the lesser
liirQiis^ tbe lairds, or ^eeholders, even those of
likem who hud grants of free barony, it never is
foand to precede their nameSf being used afttr them
to f^ ' ' *' It they were doviini, lords, or lairds
not 1, but only of such a property named.
For ^.v>.LLi|-i., Robert Lord Seinpill was called
•^Dominus Robertas *Senipill,dommU3 de Elziots-
toun/* because he wn.s both Lonl Sempill find
baron or laird of Elziotstoun, which was over
Qunj centuries his chief residence. If, however,
hs had only been a lesser baron — a laird — ihrninm
IB the latter place alone would have been used.
Then as to ** master,'* Db, Rogers says that
'^a frraduate in arts was so styled, and no other,^*
ly in this he is wrong. Were not all the
1 clergy called " inamatres " na well as
- apparent of the nobles, as tho Master of
n, tne Master of Glencairn, the Master
ill, &c. ? And then as to the retention
»riiil designations, after disposal of the
it should and did not take place except
me especial transaction in each separate
■ ««:■, ti tew of which are known and could, if space
bd permitted, have been mentioned. £sp£nAKE«
Dr. Roamis seems to entertain exceptional no-
tiaDson the sfubject of territorial designations. In
my viorw a portioner of church lands or of any other
laadiii unless his possession had subsequently been
Q«eted into a bsj^oy, would have no better title
to the designation of laird in its legal and re-
Itticted sense than would tbe master or skipper
of a Newcastle coal-ship to the title of captain.
As an exception to this, I remember indeed the
owner of a small thatched cot in an obscure
Scotch village, whose holding was divided into
two compartment?. One of these was tenanted
by a neighbour, while in the other the owner re-
sided, and followed his occupation, which was
that of a hand-loom weaver. This worthy — an
octogenarian when I ^st made his acquaintaxEce —
had "from time immemorial," as Dk, Rogees
has it» been dignified by the villiigers with the
imposing title of "laird," although I fancy this
is nardlv the kind of lairdship to which, in the
view of "constituting a sept," Dn. Rogeks
aspires. Tho Rev. Db. instances Lord Colville
of CulroBs, Bir James Menteth, Bart., of Close-
bum, Sir John Ogilvy, Bart, of Inverquharity,
&c., which (what would have been quite as much
to tbe purpose) he might have supplemented
vrith Lord Napier of Magdala, whose family nor
himself, as we all know, never had any intexest
in the country whence he derives his title.
Surely I>k. Rogers can distinguish between
titles of nobility and baronetcy granted by patent
to a man and bis heirs for ever, and the equivocal
designation accruing to a mere portioner of land
in virtue of his fragmentary possession. Mr.
Campbell of I^lay to the end of his life was con-
ventionally so designated, but after the alienation
of bi^ estate would not have been described "of
Islav '' in any legal instrument, nor has his son the
smallest claim to the title. If, then, the objection
holds as regards this once princely proprietor, by
what rule does the "representative," real or sup-
posed, of an obscure "portioner*' claim exemp-
tion?
Dr. Rogers is scarcely more fortunate in regard
to the title ** Master," which he tells us had an
academic origin. l>r. Jamieaon derives this from
a Gothic word meaning " landholder,** Does not
Da. Rogers's statements as regards the Inver-
quhnrity property admit of some modification ? Is
not Sir John at this moment in possession of the
messuage and old castle of Inverquharitr P Dr.
R0QF.R8 does not appear to have been lately in
communication with his " relative."
W. Beattie.
The Rev. Dr. Rogers states that the Grange,
or Home Farm of the abbey of Coupar, was at
one time divided amongst ** twelve lay improprie-
tors" or portioners, and from the statistical ac-
counts ana elsewhere we learn that each of these
portions changed hands very frequently. If Dr.
RoGKRs hits a right to the titular designation "of
Coupar-Grango,** the descendants of these number-
less proprietors would have all an equal claim to
the title ; and should his pretensions stir the am-
bition of a tithe of tla% ^ci\^>im^xw'«Wi«c^ ^%\^
claim descent e(\uii\\y woble, \Xi^ ■^t<?t3ff^'^\\:^ S^
330
NOTES AND QUERIES. [^^^s.vih Xrnn.i5,m.
that very soon 1; illy in poBaession of pro-
perty would di>u iy'tbe ** territorial desig-
nation,*' and that ** of *' would be understood as
the equivaleot of ** off '* in the sense of ** at a dis-
tance from/^
Culro.4,s, Closebum, &c., are personal titles
granted by the sovereigTi to the mdividuald and
heira male of thoir bodies iu the line of primo-
geniture, and of which they cannot be deprived
except by forfeiture. C. S. S.
Lord Brougham aitd Mes, Niohtisqale's
Tom 11 (4*" S. vii. 277.)— The story of a nocturnal
Tieit to Westminster Abbey^ in the Auiobiographif
uf Lord Brougham^ in which he repreaenta his
father to have been one of the actors, may be
found in a work entitled Apparttwn^f or (M Aft/s-
ten/ of G/wsUj IloUfohlinSy and JIatmted Huu^ts^
developed^ by Joseph Taylor ; 2iid ed. London,
]815. It occurs at pp.' 4+5-60, and ia headed
** Reaiarkabla luat^mce of the Power of Imagin-
ation." No iaformatjon is given of the source i
whence Taylor derived this story, but the inci- j
dentd are eaid to have occurred on the occasion of
the intt^ruiuut uf Queen Caroline (the consort of '
(.Teor^'e IL, which took place on Saturday evenbg, i
November 28, 1737.) |
A wager was laid among a party of five or six
j^cntlemeu, who had been dining to^iether at a
tavern, that one of the party ehould at midnight
enter the abbt^y alone and go down into the royal !
vault, and aa a proof that he had donts so should
stick his penknife into the floor of the vault and
leavi5 it there. The yerger was bribed to obtain
admittance, and the result was similar to that
.described by IjovA Brougham^ the adventurer
Civas found in a fainting tit at the bottom ol the
stairs leading into the vanity with the penknife
. atuck through the tail of his coat.
Some reader of ** X, *& Q." may perhaps trace
this anecdote to its original source. E. V,
Mrs. Nightingale died Au^, 17, 1731, not 1734,
and was buried in Westminster Abbey on the
20th of the same month. This makes* the case
still stronger against Lord Brougham, as the date
is deitn instead of eigU years before his father
wan born.
There are other points in the story equally in-
digestible. If it were possible for a* party of ^ay
younjj; men to walk unmolested into the abbey &t
midnight, and if it were the custom to leave open
graves at that period, juy study of the history of
the abbey for the last seven years has been a
failure. Lady Nightingale, according to the
abbey records, was buried in a vault, which was
probably hermetically closed immediately after
her interment, and not re- opened until the burial
of her husband in 17o2.
Joseph Lemuel Chester.
Eraser: Fbisbl (4*^ S. vii, 55. 17J>.)— Fr^w*!
or Fraajer seems to have been indifferently ui«l
by this ancient family till about the clo*e of the
thirteenth century, when the latter becume the
more common form. In the Or^ite* Parochklei
Scotiit ih 203-Cj there will be found sonio in-
teresting notices, drawn up, I believe, by the late
Dr. Joseph Robertson, who gives* bis ata^)o^Iti'*^
among which the *' Battle Abbey Roll" i^ ler-
taiiily not numbered. The shire of Peeblft*, jf
which they were sheritlV, seems to have been iJ» i
first settlement of the Fmsers in Scotland. Th
arms, the three &aisea, are quartered by
Flemings of Biggar and the Ilays of Yester, i
acquired them with the two co-heireeses of fb^^
patriotic Sir 8imon, executed by Edward L Tho
Knioht of Morab says, " they may be seen oo
the ancient cross of Peebles/' Can he tell tii
where this relic is now to be found?
Dr, Robert Chambers, writing in 1827, tfjl
that —
•• the dwr'i h<?ad, the Fraaer crest, was Utelv riajtl* c
the archway of their castle" [of Neiilpalh^. art?! t1«fl
** carved on the cross of Peebles a ctirioos t '
ing from an octa£;i>n of ina»onwork, about i
tho town* but which, for rcftaoos iiiexplical ... -
moved abuvt ^jXten years a^t (rom the street nhicb i
adometh" — Picture of Scot f ami, i. 188.
It is to be feared that, as the <'ir»iIrKudo
Peblis," by which its ancient burifhers fiWf>r!,ii
among the things of the past, ao i.^ ita ^hrhl
Cross sacrificed, like that of many a Scoitiih
burgh, to " improvements/^
The mention of ** the last of the French Fiti«i».
the Marquis de la Frezeliore/' reminds mo
curious account (evidently legendary in tb
t(jrian's opinion) given by M, Michel in hi^ irai^
valuable work, Les EcoMaU eti France^ i. 50.
is there stated that Sir Simon Fraser, '^ '*
phe of Gilbert Hay, retired to Fran-
defeat of Bruce by Edwaid L, and fv-... .r .
family of *' Frezeaii or Fri^el de la Frezeli^K.I
The koight is also credited with being one of f"
ancestors of the *^ Hays of Xormandie/* So I
from this being true, it is undoubted that 1
gallant Scotsman's head was then set up
London Bridge, While the '* French Fn
and " Hays of Norraandie ^* were more
be the ancestors of those of Scotland^ all
be credited with this distinction.
Akolo-Sci)^
Bows ANB CuRTSEVS (4*" S. vi* 568 ; tii. 1
220.}— In reply to E. V., 1 beg to say thatthi«
pression he refers to in Gen. xli. 43 will not f
hii purpose. The meaning of the original
is very uncertain. Various explanations hare \
proposed, but the most probable is that It ^
Eg3'ptian title of honour conferred on ioiopb, biP
the exact meaning of which has not b66n ascer-
tained. All scholars^ I belieYe^ are agreed ^^
»S,TiI, ApitiL ly, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t English Tenion b wrong', both text and
^n. T. K T.
Uobttrgh.
lowiTABr kisD SiojfATAiirKa (4*** S, tL 602:
14,1700 — Marrochetr writes: "Mr. TRE>^cn
find m^aiortf in Richardgon.*' I confess
«.^T.^lf unable ao to do, and hope that I am not
cwlea« or inacctmite in niakinjr this remark. My
is 18oo, As a prudent man, I avoid the
Tersal oegatiTe," but do not think it ia there.
Francis Trench.
ip Rectory.
\Uwnj Is a barbarous word ; but sitjnatary is
'ectly good word, beinpr an English foroi of
French strjimtwe, TnoSt Austin, Juk.
i£chifi.
JLMPLKRa ii'^ 8, vi. 500; vil 21, ISH, 220,
L ) — 1 enclose another specimen of the kind of
iliment worked on eamplers in the early pfirt of
century (1804) : —
Tell me» yc knowinj^ and disceminp feTS",
Where I jR&y find a frieml LotJi linn nnd true.
Who dares »tAnd by me when in tlet;p distress,
.ind then his love and frieodship most express ? **
W. IL
iewct«tIe-on-Tyne.
A* a sii rapier in our posaeasion is older than
described by your correspondents, perhnps
igh unfini'^hed) you may think it worth a
It is hiindsoniely worked in silk on coarwe
loured linen ; but L^oks a confuted mass,
letters btiuj? in different colours* prin-
y in capitals and arranged to fit the spaces,
t you must tpell it over to find what the
are — each word being divided from the
by a cross of five stitches x . At the top of
fiampler ia — " Hannah Tanner, May the 29,
it)/' L'nder the centre of this, is a crown he-
two coront'ts; below the crown, '* fl GIt*'j
his descends a kind of waved oval, within
wliichis —
** Chfijt WM the word that speak it,
He took the bread and br«ftk tt^
And for that word did make it.
That I believe and take it."
Witliin the oval (resting on the yerse) are two
*^^t cTtjwns of different patterns: under the
Oght'baud one is D, under that to the left is M.
few the verse is a much lar^f-ur crown, but the
J^fl round it ia empty, though a single letter
NpiD nbows it was to have been tilled in. The
y^ii ih double, and between the lines are larger
wttejT^ the same on both sides, though reversed.
Thev are ** F. h , L . I . P * N . t . \ . P /* Have
tlj«T any meaning? Projecting from the outer
fijw of tlje oval, in each corner, are two diamcrnds
Ottiwd by squares, cxmtaining I, H, T, 7, reTereed
tt the bottom of the sampler : next to these is an
oval, conUdmng something like an acorn, and an
toipty triangle in the middle — in all, fourteen
projections. In the spaces left by these, capital
letters are arranged as in the middle, which lonn
this verse : —
*' See, friend, how fast the year^ do fly,
The lime will come when you and 1 must dieu
The wnrld ffirwisH "
The rest is wanting. I have omitted to say that
each line of letters is divided from the next by a
row of eyelet holes.
We have another sampler worked by a friend
of my motber^s, containiiig several alpbabets, he-
low which is the couplet : — ,
" Honor Jtnd shame from no condtUoa rise.
Act well your part, there all the honor lies."
L. C. R.
Kebes (4^^ S. vii, 03, 220.)— It is a singular
circumstance that writers who lived in or cloae
upon the time of Marcus Aurelius, as for instance
Luciiin • and Diogenes Laertius and Tertullian,t
should none of them speak of Kubes as a cotem-
porary, but evidently as one long before their
time, as far-famed and of a world-wide reputation.
Such fame and such reputation is not usually the
frowth of a generation, as in this case it must
ftve been, if, as is assumed, Kebes lived and
wrote in the reign of Aurelius. Lucian lived
in this reign, and died a.d. 180, ten years before
the emperor J Diogenes Laertius probably in the
latter part of it, as he died A.n. 222, 'fhe same
may be said of Tertullian, as he was a Father of
the second century.
What each of these has said of Kebes may be
found by turning to the references here given —
Lucian, De Merctde Cimductis; Diogenes liertius,
lib, II. c 126 J Tertullian, iJe Prtt^criptimw, c. 30.
Lucian*8 words are clearly retrospective, A Kt'^ijr
^«fIi'ot, «f. T, A., and the whole passage, the closing
one of this treatise, ia, to my mind, evidence more
than presumptive that Kebes was no cotemporary
of Lucisn.
I Hm aware of the objections which have been
raii^ed against the authenticity of the piece in
question, but see no force in them, nor yet any in
the charge of its being ** cooked *' or ** borrowed
from Scripture/* at all events from the writings
of the New Testament. Edmuko Tew, M»A.
• Thi* ttritcr contrasts Keb«s with Sophocles and
Euripiden, who both flourlslied in the eamc ceatury as
K<*bes tb© Thvban.
f Diogenes, in hii* Uvcs of Ihe ancient philoAophorPi
places Kebe* oroongat the intimate friend* and ossocJates
of Socrates, as Crito, Simon, 8immiaK, MenL^lemus, and
riato. (See the Phisdo.) He tdm mentions his three
pieces, Uiv<x^f'K$SA^ijj and »J'piWixaf. All this is quit*
uiconaistent with the sxipfoaition that Kobe,*« w<w a con*
temporary or lived so near hi'« own time. The placing
his naiu« immediately after that of Sim mios is very ob-
servable, in those two took sucb a prominent part in the
dialogue of Phiedo, and are both spoken of as Thebana.
Nothmg could »how more clear! v wbat was the opinion
of Diogenes as to the identity oi Kebes and the authen-
tidty of his wHtiogs.
332
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[4»8.Tn.Af*ttl5,'rL
'^it,
^
The Block Books (4**' S. ii. pasgtm ; vii. 13,
151, 217.) — At present 1 stand upon my urticles
in the Ec^lemlagisl mid BttUdin^ NewSf ftc. upon
Mb. IIolt'8 0eTeral asaertioEis. I see no good in
his present challenge any more than I did in his
mare's neat of nimbuses and embkros. When
hia book comes out will be tbe time for examin-
ing his opinions. 1 for one e3n»ect macb valuable
information^ and trust he will have given up
seveml untenable positions. J. C. J.
Fatkoxtmic Pnnr^on *'Mac " (4"' S. vi, 330;
Til. 220.)— A MiFFDLE Tehflar might among
other names h.iTe added ^IcOscar, McCai*kill, Mac-
Hitteric, MacOtt*3r.* Armstrong mentions Alttc
nn Luin as ** the name of Fingal^s sword, so called
from its maker Lwio^ an armourer of Scandi-
navia.'^
But these names do not prove anything, unless
the owners brought them from Scandinavia. It
would seem probable, however, that the prefix
** Mac ** is of Gothic^ or, at all events, of Teutonic
origiD< In conlirmatioD compare —
Gothic— mrt^iw, puer, knabe, riicyov ; thiumaguSf
•■*a7s, diener, kneclit; magatl^^ puella, irapBtyoSf
jungfrau; mrt//<ifA*V, rap^ei^fa, jungirauschaft ; rna-
gulaj puert'
vermogen.
gulaj puerului, wmiHfm
K, knablein^
niagaii^ kiinnen.
Su»-Qathic and lal. — ma^f aodus^ par; Dan.
magti,
Ang.-Saxon^ — macn^ maeca^ meca^ id. {getimcdj
fnaca, ffcmaa^u, gemeva : D. imikker^ a mate, equal,
companion^ wife. Bos worth), nuBcg^ mi?^, a man.t
old Ger. — »ia</ (Francic, ^iV^wiA), natura; mag,
parens, tilius, conju^nctus, cognatus, conjux, puer,
famulus, par, similia, (cqoalis ; Francic, niaga-sogo
(Teut. zog, tog : Qr. ra^-^'n), rector pueriti^.}
In Luke ii. 43, iro7r, which Beza renders piwr^
is in the Gothic version magtut: and in John vi* 9,
wa45(ipir3M, which Bt.*3tu renders paendtis^ is in the
Gothic version magula, Pughe, however, derives
the Welsli maeeiug, a youth, a page, from magt the
act ol.rearing, bringing up, or educating ; rearing,
education, nurture. R. S. Cuaknock.
Gray's 1iid»
BRiTian Scythed Chariots (4"' S.vii, 95,240.)
In ';N. & Q;» 4^" S. i. 414, I asked whether the
possibility of a scythed chariot as an o (Tensive
weapon had ever been discussed. I received no
answer, and inferred that on examination the
vehicle and il^ uses seemod too absurd for serious
consideration. Historians as trustworthy fl«
Richar<l of Cirencester repeat the story of the
Trojan horse. They were not at the siege nor he
at the Imttles; and had they been, their testimony
would not avail to prove what could not be.
U. U. Club. H. B. C.
• Con^ Ferguson on Sarnames.
f CoaC Wachter, Ght$„ and Schake^ Goth, Glow.
X Cont H^achter, also Schilterus.
the
It may be open to argument wh^^fir
Bntons used or did not use chariots with
attached to their wheels, but it certaialj
fair to quote Richard of Cirencester in Ui
trove ray. A lawyer might as well cite the
Blackstone in the Court of Queen *s tiench^
antiquary put the fabe Richard in evidence in
the pages of '* N. & Q.^' If any ooe in EogUail
has yet a shred of faith left in Uharlaa JtUiQe
Bertram's forgery, let him read and p<iader imsU
upon the preface to vol. ii. of the true Hichanl uf
Ciranceeter's Specnlum Hidorinle^ edited by Mr.
John E. B, Mayor, M.A* Edwabd Peacock*
Botteafonl Manor, Bragg.
Sheerwort (4'*' S. vi. 502: vii. 25, 151, fJ-
I believe I can now satii^fy Mr, Brittrk as
this plant. It is the AraU^, or wall-creas^ ttS^\
by ^ ithering " Turkey pod " { Trtrtidtfnmma
giMkia). I had a strong sxispicion that this
the plant ; and on my taking a small pieoe fttoi
my own garden to show to the Dorsetshire mm
mentioned in a former communication, ha at onoft
said, "That is what we call sheentort,'^ Iti toiat*
what hot and pungent taste has led to its tisain
salads, especially by the gypsies. F. 0. H.
A MurithiM.
*'TH0r01I LOST TO SlRHT, TO MeMORT MSAi"
fl« S. iv, ; 8«» vi. viii. ; 4*" S. i iv. pamm; m
5G, 173, 244-)— The line quoted by Mr. ^y^m
at the last reference appears in Pope*s ** Epistlw (p
Robert Karl of Oxford *' (1731), but i;* tiol c\^Vt
correctly given. The passage from which Ui*
taken runs thus :—
'* Absent or dead, still let a fHend be dear,
(A sigh the absent datms ibe dead a tair).**
art
My object at present is to certify that wil^
respect to the line —
"Tbe absent claims a aigh-^thc dead, a tear."
I have been familiar with it for many year^.
have seen it connected with other lines in f^
of poetry, but never with the line —
- Though lost to aight," &c.
F.C.H.
On THE TnxE 0? Ktfo or QmuEN of Ua'
(4*'» S. vii. 240.)— Mb. WiLLtAit HARMsax. »
his very interesting notei omits to mentioiD Ml6
Manis, who was Governor of the Isle of !!■»
e*rc. 1098, and who in that year founded a Cli*
terctan abbey at Rush en in the island — a foan&i*
tion which continued for some time after dB
raiaral suppression of the monastic hoosei B
Engknd. Mac Manis was probably a member of
the powerful and distinguished atrpt of Ike MiC
ManuseSf whose head wa^ai descended Utm tbe
I «a)d«nt Kings of Connaugbt, and whow iUoo^
Wc!k\^ «a^^ \vnf!a!ei ^«& «x BaIIy Mac MiwQi^ aow
4»fcS.viLAi-itit.i6,7io NOTES AND QUERIES.
333
called Belli ele, an Island in Lough Erne, co*
Fdraiftuagh. CnjLRt,m Soxhebak*
^ Htadow Stne% Mos»-si(le, mnr Mandietter,
Bb Say^ or Bay (4^ S. vii. 123, 272.)— Eus-
tachia de 8ay^ in the reign of Henry II., built
aad endowed At Weatwood, in the' county of
Worcester, a Footevrauld nunnery, which "was
gmsted ;^0 Henry V^IIL to John Paldn^n.
"leabell, d. and coheir of S' Wm. Saje/*
mirried at a very early date ** Robert Harbottell
of BaaingtborpH/ in Com' I^incon,," the great-
irittDdson of ** S*" Widyard Harbottle of Com*
Korthumbland, Knight," who was the great-
great-great-grandson of " Roger Harbottell » Ix>rd
of Harbottell, i^mp. 11. 1.-' Vide '^The Harbottell
Pedipee *' in T/w I'mtaWan of HtUland, lOlB-9,
Subhshed by the Harlfian Society. '* Winifride,
. of Francis Say of Wilby, in Com' North'ton,"
was the wife of ** Kenelme Cbeselden of Upping-
ham/* whose grandson Kenelme was aged fifteen
in 1616. Vide "The Cheselden Pedigree" in
time \l5iUtii3iL
The arms of Say are the fourth quartering on
the Harbottell ahield in Harl. MS. L558, and are,
*• Per pale azure and gules, three chevrons charged
with aa many couped and coimterchanged.**
Charles Sotheran.
G, MeAdoir Street, Moaa-side, near Manchthster,
Hampden Family (4'»^ S. vii. 189, 273.)— I
|(iKefla«d an autograph letter of John Hampden
(of the signature to which I enclose you a tracing),
which was lent for exhibition at the Crystal
Pilice, and unfortunately destroyed in the fire
wliiL'h took place sonie few yeara ago. The name
i« tjnially epelled with a />, and was so in my
ph. It u also so spelled in a letter (en-
from an original) at toL i. p. 100 of the
iile l^cird Nugeal's Mttiumah of Hampden,
Fkkdebick Geobgk Lee.
6» L&iobeth Terrace.
Gti/OT A2?i> GuisB (4*^ S. vii, 142, 270.)—
'*' (AW.) So pronoonced by M. Guizot himsdf, as
^■tid in a letter fram him, now before xia. He &flyg,
'I^mon pays aata], la ville de Nime^ on pronoiice
Jon notn jr'if-^. A Park on dit en geiidral^I-5o; et
j«ooii eette pmnonciation pln» correcte,'
* A near relati^'e^ however, of the f^reat French historian
■BiaUteBniau tJike.^ a diiferent view of the question. lie
i^the name of hh family i:i alwaj-a prononnccd tjhi-tti
fe tlie sooth of France, wht^re the name Driginated ; and
^rxlna, with great apmsarance of reason, that the
• tungei of the people of N'imes on^ht to be d*.^
*';•- pronunciation of Mil iwjffi iV/moij,*^ — Prtf-
nary of Difijraphi/t irt*. L^y J. Thomas,
1 II.. I iiiLidelphia, IHTO. (i. f/)
Thob. Stewaebbojt, Jr.
& C. «iy«, **It is true that among the edu-
mM cLkSses in Pari? the iirst name h pronounced
(M we chould say) G wee-so j and the latter
GktiStJ^ NoW| M tlaia true as regards Omsef I
was taught by a Frenchman singularly accurate
and fastidious ab«>ut hia language, that 6'wi in
Guise formed fin exception to the rule governing
the sound of «i, and tnat the historical family of
Ouiee ought to be^callcd Gweese, J. Dixox.
Theyeris' ^'Grete Hebball*' (4»'» S. yii. 162,
2^%^) — Who was Treveris? There seems to be
but little tTUfetworthy evidence on this point.
Pritzel {ThemitJiis Literatnra Botanica, p, 34 1>
informs iis that in the Catalogue of the Oxford
Library the Grete HerhaU is attributed to a Jeie-
mias Treveris, professor at the University of
Lou vain ; but Meyer, in his Genchichteder Botanik i
(vol. iv. b. XV.), maintains that this is sn error, '
and that the mistake prtjbably arose from the
similarity of the profef^sor'a name with that of the
publisher of the uerbftl.
M»?yer says of the book :—
" England was content, for a long time, to itudy nlanta i
in translations from, or imitations of French and Dutch ]
workfl. The earlieat bo^^k on the subject, the Grft&
IlrrbaiJ, waa iifBt published (according to Palteney) in
1510, by Peter Trc%'criR. and afterwards passed through
five editions, in 152ri, i:*2D, 1530, and 1561, with wood-
oats, and In 1661, without woodcut*. Palteney believes {
it to have been fabricated, with alterations, from a French
traiulatjon of the Ortu* Sanitatin, printed in Paris by
Caroa in 14(>9 ; but this cannot be, as Caron published no
such tran*latirn), but a different thoogh similar work,
Le grant Her bier en /^ ra»i7»y»»' " '
Pritzel makes no allusion to the editions, either
of 1610 or 15^'>1, and states, in opposition to Pul-
teney, that those of 15:3t> and 1601 are without
rroodttit^. The last lines of the book are: ^' Thus
endeth the gret© her ball, which is ti'anslated out
of Frensshe in to Englysshe.''
If Mr. James Bkitten could refer to a cojiy
of the GreU UerhnU, and would bend me ' hia
address* we might be able io decide whether it
and the Grant Ilerbier above alluded to (a cony
of which is at my disposal) are not one and the
same work ; and also, perhaps, whether the Graid
Ilerbier was not made out of the Ortus Sam$ati4»
H. 0.
The Pla^'t LmouA Akskris (4*^ 9, vii. 102,
294.)— I can find nothing, in m^ old botanical
authorities, with a diagnosis answering to Treveris'
description. The only plant named **gooBe-
tongue ** is the s4chill(ca Ptmynica (Prior, Popular
Xatue!^ of Brit, Plants p. 95.)
Palacium kporia. ^ThiB would appear to be the
mtparagm^ for in the index to Parkinson's Thmitr^
of Plonta I find '' Ptdacinm Uporis, t. SonefmB ie<m
vulgaris, — C^mlpimf ♦. Aspamgm mflmttruP
H, C.
Bmsselfl*
Chueches yrvmni Roman Camps (3'* S. v.
vi. vii. viii. ix. x.pamm; 4^ S. vii. 24.) — In A
• Addnssa, T. Vr«»twooi» IJjwvn "^^ ^"^ ««.>». \^,
Brussels.
W^
l^-ttLL
334
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'<»S.VlI.Arwfcl5|'i
Handbook for Ltwes, M. A. Lower, under the head
** Church of St. John Suh Castro/' b thia sen-
tence : —
** While in the churchy ird the vwitur'a stienUon Tn»y
\yt called to the cnrious fact, ttiat it occupies part of th«
filifii uf A rery umatl cJimpf supposed to be Ronmn, the
vallum of wluch may atLIl be traced.''
A note «iy8 : —
** Several coins of the Imperial era have been foiind
here.'*
L, C.
LixEs ox xnE HcTMAW Ear (4**' S. Tii. 2.^
The "Philosopher and his Daughter" nppdfted
in the Phonetic Journal for June 25, 18o?^, where
it was given aa an extract from the lUmtrated
Xeir», but at what tiai« it appeared in the latter
periodical I am not aware. If K. L. wiahea a
transcript of the poem, i shall be happy to supply
one if he will communicate his wish to me,
William £. A. Axoir.
JoynMO Street, Strangewayji.
Ballad of Lady Ferrer? (4^" S. vii. 2000—
What Imllad is it ? The date (1811) implies that
it is 60 mQ modern cnm position. I shall be glad
to have further particulars,
James Hexry Dixon.
Bishop Aloock, circa Um (4*^ S. vii. 122;)—
The arms borne by Bishop Alcock were : Arjrent,
on a fess (not a chevron) between three cocks*
heads erased sable, combed and wattlt^d gules^ a
mitre or; sometimes within a borduro gules
charged with eight crowTis or. Crest : (^n a coro-
net » . , a cock ... (see Olive's Marches of Wales:
Bedford's lilazfm of Episcopacy : Xa*jh's Ifi^ofy
of Worce^nterahire ; Berry's Enc^clopoidiii Jltral-
dica, lS-c.) ' H. S. G.
AvTiTB (Chapman) KyiORTLET (4'*' S, vii. 2S4.)
It is to be feared that the note appended to this
query may prevent C. IK C. fmm gettinpf an
answer, aa it implies a doubt of the existence of
the lady whose husband is inquired for. The
pedigree ofChapiimn in Burke and other baron -
^Hftg-es is very iorperfect A fuller pedigree, with
the proofs from vrilb and re^^isters, is printed in
Pnrt I. of Howard's Monffdi/ MitturU. Gen^nL,
from which it appoarfli that tsir Ji^hu Ohapmtin
bad two wives. Bv the tirst he Imd Anne^ the
wife of Kniglbtley ; by the second lie had
two sons, and the two daughters mentioned in the
note. Hir John Chapman died in his mavoraUv,
March 17, 108^4) (not on May 7, 17:37}. The
circumstances of his illness and death are gra-
phically described by Lord MacAulay in his
IliMortf of Enfflimd: but, with characteristic
■ inability to tell a plain story in u plain way,
' Macaulay omits from his narrative the name of
the person about whom he is writing. Tewars*
The Oldest Ikns m England (4»'» S. vi. 505;
vii. 267,)— One of the«e '* oldest inns'* may be
fonnd in Philip's Norton, Somerset. I forget the
sign by which it is distinffuished, but it stands at f
the top of the hill on which the village is situate^fl
May I suggest that it might be quite wqrtli^|
while, as bein^ likely to pay itfl ezpenaes tt vbOlB
as for antiquarian reasons, to take pjiotographm^^
these ** oldest inns ** and publish them. 1 would
also suggest that the same might bo done with
our ancient manor houses. In another half cea-ij
tury^ the present rage for improvement (P) \
pulling down will, most probably, have awefl
awiiy all traces of these precious relics of uur J
domestic architecture, W. M. JL C,
Scena ; ScENf: {A^^ B, vii. 250.)— As a nroh
help to the solution of his difficulty, I
recommend to your correspondent Myop« a cat**]
ful study of the Doric and -Eolic diah.*ct^. Far
these, says the author of the I^rt Royal Gram'
mrtr, —
" hax-^e lieen almoft entirely followed bj the Latim:
iijwimiicTi thiit, if the writings of tho*e who B^rl tht»
dliiailect {/Eoli«*) had been transmitted down tr» rs
should in all appearance diacf^ver therein n ver) .
airreement irith tlic Latin, not only with regird to LM
wordi, but moreover with respect to'tbe phrase,*'
Edmuso Tbw, M.A*
ratching Rectory, Arandel.
Mvops will, I hope, forgive me for sdving thil
his query appears to be in keeping with Lis niQtti
short -sigh tea.
L As the Romans got most of their dramstic
literature at second-hand from the Gtvek\ they
naturally adopted many of their dramatic tsffli
from the Greek ; e. g. tragadia, comtrdia, rofAr-
nuSf xyrmaj Src. Scrna, which at first they s^
inclined to spell *e<rMff, is one of these. Mt i^
may, therefore, rest assured that oKiirk ii the
earlier form.
2. This word, taken from the Greek a tl-
sion, the Latins placed of course in thMir
first or a declension^ in which the t* rr
invariably a short They treated tttt^
as they did zona (from t^n?) and man\
words. The explanation of the short ]
lies in the fondness of that language for «bbiv>.^
tion. See on the whole subject Dkmaldson'i A'»*
CratyluSf chap, ii., ed» 18<K).
J. IL L Oaklkt, JIA-
Croydon.
Portrait op Oamisron of Lochibl (4^ S, fi
257.) — Bromley, in his Catalogue f>^ F^^^f^
Britinh Portrait^ 1703 (p. 3P3), make
a portrait of Donald Cameron ** wboii —
a Highland dress," but omits the iuudos ot
and engraver. G. M i
Haiiesttcken (4"* S. vii. 257)— (fwm Sofli
Hafmocm)^^ the liberty or privilege of m mn^
own house; also, a franchise grantwl to lotdsfll
manors, whereby they hold pleas at^ talce c^
nisance of Ike Ibreach and violation of that las*
i
4*^8. V 11. Arfiiu 10,71, ]
NOTES AND QUERIED
335
munity ; and likewise *' si^ificat quietatitiatn
miaericordiiB intratiotiia in iiliennm domura vi ©t
injuete '* (Fhta^ lib* L cap. 47). la Scotland yiola-
tioBs of this Idnd are equally punishable with
lape (Skene) ; and ** our old records express bur-
glory under the word hamsocne^' (Jacobs Law
J}icl) G, M. T.
This word aurely was not ^' entirely unknown
in a speciKc sense in the law of England/' and it
"appears" explained, and with its denTation
given, in many dictionaries or trciatises, thoug^h
Tiiriouslv Fpelt : e. y. it appears (1) in N. Bnileji
8to, l7."5o: (2) in Ash, 8vo, 1775; (3) in Jacobus
Law Didwnary, fol., 17.36; (4) in Cunningham 'e
Lmw Dirtumfiry^ fol, 1771 ^ (5) in Co well's Inter*
prtifT^ London j small 4to, 10:37, in two places;
(6) in Seldcn*8 Fh'ta^ London, 4to, 11S47, lib. i*
etp. 47, I 18, p. as ; (7) in Bracton, (juoted by
Cowell [lib. III. tract. 2, c. f?3J, where it ia thua
defined — " Jlomemken dicitur inva^^io domus con-
^ pacem domini regis." Cunning-ham quotes
al»o a charter of donation by Kiii^ Edmund to
tbe church of Glastonbury, in which he granta
JUDon^st other privileges, *^ Burg^heritb » . ♦ .
iafan^theofas, hamsocne, et fridebrice," &c. ; and
other instances most likely are to be found in
ftocient writers and in cb afters. It was in fact
the old word to express burfflmy^ which hna
superseded it ; but, as Cowell thinks, it also ex-
|sre8sed a franchise or priTilege *♦ granted by the
Klnir to nome common person," whereby be took
mce of and punished such a transgression
law. E. A. I>.
^biliiiigstooe Kectory.
In Blotmt^s Law Dictimimf (by Nelson, 1717}
it is said : —
'* rfoMTWOKKTf (or Hamtohen) — from Sax. ham^ i. i».
' % fuiltttutio, AQiI itocnv^ iibtirfaSt immnnitat — is the
i^e or frtiedom which every man bus ifi his bouse;
*ti.l ikr who invndca that freedom ia properlv anid Jhctrt
Amr«oArii. Thi^ is what I take to he now calletl liunjlaty^
Vhleh i« A crinic of a v^ry htinou* nature, b«?ciiU5e it i«
lonly a brcAch of the kjng*$ peace, but a breach of
H Uuuty whicb a mim bath in Vvls bou£^, whicb we
(UnHinly say ahould be bb castle, and therefore oujcht
1 lo be invaded. — Bracton, lib. tii. tract. 2, cap. 23 ;
E.V.
& Wrr.FRAN (4«»' S. vii. 102, 200.)— I think
[fiiere is considerable reason for hesitation ere we
fpo^iHvoly that the St. Wulfran of the Eng-
ir is the same person as St. Wulfran^
ii of Sens. I did not always think so,
ill mj Knglisii Church Furniture (p. 88) have
Itch a note, in which I state that Grantham
aoich is dedicAted to the archbishop. A shrine
**8enct Wulffram shryne " existed at that
till !' 156^; and Gervaise ITollis
\yk%, on tr ty of Inland, that St. Wul-
^ IftCt waa beiriTii Luere. Unless this is a mistake,
IJiiug from, the church posaeasing some of his
relics, we must conclude that there are two Wul-
frans honoured by canonization, for certainly the
Archbii^hop of Sens did not find sepultuje in Eng-
land. If tne St. Wulfran of the English calendar
ia the same person as the French archbishop, it is
singular that he appears in our old calendars as
bishop only. The calendar of the '* Black Book *'
of the receipt of the Exchequer, as published by
Mr. J. J. Bond in hie Hmid^Bmh of Mules and
Tables for veriffjtng Dates, gives —
» Wulfran Archiep. Mnr. 20.
" Wulfran Ep. ft Conf. Oct. 15."
An earlj fifteenth -century calendar in ray po
ses^^ion, once the property of the family of I^airfa:
of Beeping Gate, does not contain the archbishop
but under October 15 we have ** Sci Wlfranni epSI
& conf." '
Is it not possible that our English sdnt may have
been somft holy Englishman of early days who
became a bishop in heathen lands, and returning
home to die, has been forgotten except in his
native bind ? EowABD Feaoocic.
Jlottesford Manor, Brigg.
Stedman Family (4^ S. vii. 259.) — Mb.
HunERT Smith inquires as to the whereabouts of
a IIS. which was printed in th^Opntlenmn a Maffn-
zim of Nov, 1840, p. 492^ and which I communi-
cated to that periodica] under the initials "E. P.8.- *
The MS. is still in my library, but it is evidently
but a portion of a much looger account, and haa
been mutilated, though the writing, which is of
the period, ia easy to oe read. The whole of the
fragments in my posaesaion were printed in the
Gmtleman-s Mmjnzine, Ev. Fn, Seielet.
Lower Ealingtcpn Park» Stratford -on- A voa,
George Lokdon (4"* S. vii. 235.)— Has your
correspondent seen tbe following lines in Felton'a
Portraits of EnfflifJi Authn'H on Gartlmmu^^ ^c.^
8vo, 1«30, p. 40>—
" No nionament bss, I believe, bet^n crecletl to Mr,
London's memory. ♦ . , Nor cati I (!n<1 out even where be
wn4 born or buried. If one could o!i!ftin a resemblance of
him, one bopen hia pictnrG or hia bust may not deserve
the censure of our uuble poet."
On p. 30 he states that London "died towarda
Christmas in the year 1713." . W. P.
IfOTES Oti BOOKS. ETC.
Descriptive Catahfjuf nf Matermh rrlatimj to Ute HtJitorjf
tif Grtut liritain aniJ Irtlami^ to thr Kud of the lifWn
of Henry VJL By Sir Tbomji* Duffus Hurdy, D.C.W
Deputy- Keeper of ibe Publk Records, (Longmans.)
If there citnnot be two opinions a.s to th<3 vaLue and
importance of a work which should give fall and triisfe^
worthy notices of tbe fountains of our national biitorj^i
as little can there be ih«t the accomplished ^hol&r, wno^
was selected on tbe death of the bte Mr. Pctrie lo com-
plete th« Monumenta JiiMtorica Britannica, U the one
especiall^V fitted to undertake tbe gT«al and onecQ^^aA <!i^Vi
of compiling a depcriptiv^t catAlQiga^ ul ^iXv^ %:oA>aat^ «A.
Mam
336
NOTES AND QtTERIES. [4* s. vii. Amn. w, Tu
these original works and the MSS. in which they are to
be foond. Ck>nld any doubt have existed, it would have
been dispelled bv those portions of Sir Thomas Hardy's
Dticrmtive Caialogiu (Vol. I. and Vol. II., Parts I. and
II.), wliich have already appeared ; no 1cm than by the
third volume which is 'now before ns. What an im-
portant aid the book will prove to students of Enelish
nistoryi is made patent by the fact, that the third volume
alone contains notices of nearly seven hundred different
worksy some seventeen fac-fixniles illustcatix^c of the
vexed question as to the handwriting of Matthew Paris,
and a preface of nearly one hundred page8, in which Sir
Thomas presents us inter alia with some most interesting
pictures of so much of monastic life as relates to the
oompUation of chronicles in monasteries. This preface
will well repay perusal by tho general reader.
Syntmyma dUcriminat$d. A Complete Catalague of Sy-
nonymout toorcU in the Enytith Language, with- Descrip-
tions of their various Shatltis of Meaningy and Illuttra-
tiona of their Usages and Spcciatities. Illustrated by
Quotations from Standard lyritcrs. By C. J. Smith,
MJk., Christ Church, Oxford, Vicar of Erith, &c.
(Bell & Daldy.)
Much as has already been written on English Sy-
nonyms, there is yet room, as Mr. Smith believes, for a
new book on the subject, written in some respects from
fresh points of view, and of a fuller character than the
narrow limits in which such works are commonly con-
fined. We ccmmend the book before us to those who are
interested in precision of languajnre— a thing much to be
debired. We had hoiHul it would havo solved our cor-
respondent M. A. B.'s Query (ante, p. 325) as to the words
** VVink " and " Blink, ' but must wait for that second
edition of it, which may reasonably be anticipated for a
book of this character. '
UxivERSiTY OF LoNDOX. — Mr. Juliau Goldfmid
(M.P. fjpr Rochester), who is a Master of Arts of the
University of London, has just mado hw University a
handsome present of 1000/., to be paid in annual instal-
ments distributed over ten years, towards the formation
of a good Classical Librar}' in the New Building. The
Senate have accepted the offer, with a hearty acknow-
ledgment of its generosity ; and a Committee has al-
ready been appointed to begin the agreeable task of
forming a Oassioal Library. Wo trust Mr. (ioldsmid's
generosity may be infectious. Would it be impossible,
by the wov, to secure for the University the late Pro-
fessor De Morgan's unique MathematicarLibrar>', which
probably contains the most curious collection of Looks on
the History of Mathematics to be found in England?
The value of this collection is besides greatly enhanced
by Mr. De Mor^ran's own numerous and characteristic
annotations. Whether the Libr.iry is to bo disposed of
or not, we do not at present know ; but if it could be
obtained, there would be a special fitness in securing it
for the University of London, whicli would then have a
really good start towards the formation of a fine Classical
and Scientific Library.— ^y>«;c^l^)^.
The Peel collection of pictures, lately purchosed for
the National Claller}', hjw been removed' to the building
in Trafalgar Square, and will shortly be exhibited there.
Ampng them will be found Wilkie's well-known "John
Knox preaching before Mary Queen of Scots," which,
says the Alhena-nm, will be one of the most popular of
our new possessions.
Cambridge.— The representatives of the late Arabic
Professor, the Rev. H. G. Williams have just presented
the University with 102 vols, of OrienUl MSS., chieiiy
Arabic and Persian.
A Philolooioal Soczbty has been formed in Cam-
bridge, consisting of the following members :—Pn»feHori
Cowell, Kennedv, and Munro; Mr. W. G. Clark and
Mr. Jebb, of Trinitv; Mr. F. A. Palev, Mr. J. E. a
Mayor, and Mr. J. E. Sandys, of St. John's; Mr. W. W.
Skeat and Mr. John Peile of Christ's ; and Mr. Fennell,
of Jesus College. The society limits itself to the lan-
guages and literatures of the 'Indo-European family, as
there has been for some time back a '* Hebrew Sodety,"
which would not readily amalgamate with the societT in
question.
TiiB University of Cracow is publishing its original
documents (Codex Diplomaticus) from the yetr of its
foundation, 1304, to the present day, in five volumes.
The first reaches to 1440. The struggle between the
German and Polish elements in this University is note-
worthy, as also the part played by the Jews. Our own
Universities might follow the example of Cracow with
advantage, and a good beginning was made by Anat^s
3Iunimenta Academica,
Mb. T. G. Steyembon, of Edinburgh, is reprinting fa
a ver^' limited impression chieflv for subscribers, ** Satan's
Invisible World discovered, by George Sinclar," Profeamr
of Philosophy and Mathematics in the University of
Glasgow, from the original edition published atEdlnboigfa
in 1(>85, with a Bibliographical Notice, &c
Those who are interested in Ceramic Art, may be glad
to have their attention called to a work by J.* Hoadov,
entitled, *' Uistoire de la C^ramique-Lilloise precedes ds
documents inedits constatant la fabrication de camaaz
peints et emaillcs en Flaodre et en Artois au qu.ntorzieme
sieclc."
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
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theirciitleniftn by whum thoy are reuuirvd, wluMe naioc aail •ddittf
are ipven for that puriKwe: —
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Beckenhain. Kent.
fiatitti ta Catvcfipan'tsenti.
E. T. G. (Oxford.)— 7%c glfps are probably from Hjs
(iuurdinn. jyothing on the subject has appeared is
"X. & Q." since 2«"» S. viii. 470, 616.
The Red Ckoss Kxigiit. — I)rittain*s Ida is smpomi
by Mr. Grosart to hare been written by Phineat FidduT,
St'c hin ensny Who wrote Britain's Ida ? noticed by •
i«"N.&Q."4»»>S. iii. 117.
A. X. E. — Dyce^s or the Cambridgv.
C. 13. T. — Has our Correspondent consulted Mr, A^
piteFs article on " Wren'* in the last edition of the Ear
cylopffidia BritannicaV
' J. E. (Durham.)— Ye for the. The T is a prvOsri
substitute for the Saxon or old English th. On the meams§
and deritation of Ampers and (^) there are no leu Moa
nine articles in our !•» S. U. 230, 284, 818 ; \-ii. 179, SS^
251, 327, 376, 524 ; ix. 48.
T. MoGratii.— Apollo*s CJabinet ; or, the Mnacs* D^
li^ht, 17r)6, as well as The Muses' Delifffat, 1764, an Mft
noticed in Bohn's Lowndes, art. ** Songs," p. 2448. Tk
latter work at Ueher's salt sold for 4s.
Erbatum.— 4(1' S. vL p. 169, col. L line 84, fsr <* JokB
F. M. Doraston "* read « John F, M. DovMton/'
film Arwii. ilt 7t.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
337
lOJfPOir, SATURDAT, A^RIl ^ Itfl.
CONTENTS.— K- 173.
t — islr^ nf t}n» Sin'ii-i. r.'!? — Tin- It^ti- ..f r;innr"<^f*s
by
. iJ> —
Hri-
ibv
I^ e — Au»tio Patntlv — Authors wAnl«d — ** JEsojt's
" Bewick — ' \ ' liuthven"; bow
I -^ J6*nnefi l i entary on Ari«-
■— B«jncharnp — . .oks — <Jh«fli?i I.
I rruriiJy — Crttjrurda of Newark,
tie MfUJths — Grantham Inn Simw
1 1 Coat Armour— PiirtuifueiM
of Scotland — Rukesby the
Gloucester — Tetra»fi>nalln-
— \ ulKul* , A,L). 151i3 — Walttnmstow Hbn»h
I — •• Witty M Flauiiuiui Fiaecus " — The Zodi.ic» 342.
irUES;— Tli« rv,n,r.1,r m of St. PaiiVj Cathedral. ^U
-- Ofck-m of Kt j5 — Thn Bookworm, .-VW —
OrKiti of Ih" .*- Tiincham. 347 — Ilof*?ir>»Ty
Dm
turils/' Ar, — A Scnintt, or thria
ami
-') —
I KLi<yk4, ftc.
^P ISLES OF THE SIBEXS*
T eould scHfcely be in the neighbourhood of
^%T<1\^ without paying: a visit to the celebrated
the SireM (** IdhuIji* Sirenuf;'? ")^ which
_ijiphers hare placed on the north side
^l ^iit* htij of Salerno, ftbout ten imh^ from
It is Homer (Od. xii. 39, &c,; that drst
'these mythical beitiffa; tind, according: to
et, Uly»fl<?i* in his wanderings through the
RDeJUifWhen he approached the Uiand, on
sly beach of which the Siren? wer^ ^ittin;?^
lie advice of Circe, sturtVd the cHrs of his
n& with war, aod tiod biioself to the
lof th<* reaael, that they might not be allured
1^ Und by their melodious singini?^ If the ialnnda
PtOl continue in the aatne st^ite that they were in
iKieiit timeSv H is difficult to undet^^tand how
Dujjr ahould have been fielectt?d as the residence of
M«ie fair ladies* They a^-e threQ rocky ialeta,
pfw called 1 Galli, bein;/ it littU more than a
pilt from the i»bore, without herbsige, trL?ele8«j
p4t^«?n d*?etiliit«* of water.
' I ofpr*>ai:hed them IJrom S:irento, the birth-
fJifie of TasAO, croiiMing the ridge that runs down
<« ihi* point rrpp«,Hita to the mland Capri, and
JgCeoding by a llight of stejis to Scaritojo, This
I U known to Ovid {Mfi. atv. 710) aa *'Sur-
I UoUee/* and produced what waa conridered
i awellfcnt wine* The idets
lie together in a hind of circle, and along with
two fifiarp-pointed rooks, are of the same minara-
logical structure as the neighbouring* continent.
The larg^eflt islet, called Isola Lung a, about half a
mile in circumference, id situated to the east of
the smaller ones. There i» no regular latn ling-
place, so that TOO have to climb up a pr*fcipitouj»
rock of nearly one hundred feet. You then fiud
yourself on a rugged ridge, and on proceeding a
little to the south you come upon a level piece of
ground, where the remains of buiJdinga ore seen.
This plot of ground ia about twenty yards in
breadth and eixty in length. There 'is' a vault
remaining, which seems to have been added to
eome older edifice, and the bricks kyb of the same
kind na are found in Koman buildinga; so that
I have little doubt that this was the site of
some ancient villa, though in summt^r it muat
have been nearly uninhabitable from the heaC
The extreme southern point is entirely rock, and
never had any building upon it. On "the highest
point there is an old tower, to which there ia now no
entrance, but by dint of acrambling I nuinajred to
get in at one of the windows. Two hah-mined
rooms are all that now remain. On th»* western
part of the island you litid a small part of a huild-
iDg, and around it a few burnt-up plants aod
flowt?rs,but tree.^do not seem ever to have existed
on it. 1 then lowL^d to the higher of the other
two, called 11 Castelletto, which lies about a qua -
ter of a mile distant* and ascended to a tower Iv
a regular road: it lof>k.'* like a carriage-road, which
had never been finighcd, a^ you mount the last
forty feet by step?. This is evidefnlly a medifeval
building, and we know from history t^sat it was
used as a state prison by the republic of Amalfit
where they con6ned their doges when they had
become intolerable by their tyranny. Rowing to
the most southerly island, laola Rot^">nda» I
scrambled to the highest point : it is much more
level and better adapted tor building than either
of the other two, yet there is D<»t the slightest
vestige of an editice of any description. Such is
the present appearance of the celebrated Islands
of the Sirens ; one of them bold and picturesoue,
the other two of a tame and uninteresting cna-
racter.
Virgil (.'En. v. 864) speaks of them in the fol-
lowing terms: —
*' Jamffrte atleo sci^ttlos Sircnum advectii sabilmt.
l>1gidlei fjitofi'lam, tnuUortimque ossiba<» aUM>*,
Turn fiiuca Msiduo loage sale saxa sonabaat.'*
Dtiring summer they muat always be subject
to in^'UJie heat, as they are sheltered by the lofty
ridge of St Angelo Irom every wind excr?pt the
south and west.
These, however, are nn/t the only islands that
bttv'e had the honour of b«ing connected with lie
name of the Sirens, I once fou.nd rnvt'tV^ ^^ret 'Cvn^n
opposite p«ninBu\a to l\i^ 9^iVil\i ol Mti<t ?>^'5 <!:1
338
NOTES AND QUERIES,
Sulerao, iind had climbed to the highest peak of
Mount Slellft in search of the ruins of Petilia.
Aj8 I reached the pinnacle, the sua waa aporoach-
ing the sea horifon, and shed a g^olden Hffht over
the precipitous shore beneath, and there 1 looked
down on an i^Iet, now Licoea, the ancient Leu-
c^sia. It shone like pold from the refracted raja
of the sun, and 1 could believe would be a plea-
nant residence, as it stands out into the sea aVout
A quarter of a mile from the mainland, and catches
thtf breeze from whatever direction it blows.
i5trabo (vi. 25*2) eay» that it derived its name from
one of the Sirens who had periahed here, I
heard afterwards that both on the island and on
the land around the promonttiry there are re-
mains of ancient buildiogs, and I can ruadily
believe it to have been a favourite residence for
the wealthy Romans. On every pleasant spot as
I travel] ed to the south I found traces of the
Hoinans, who had in imperial times the same love
of the *' dolce far nionte " that the Neapolitans
have inherited from them.
Again : on the coast of Calabria, two hundred
miles south of this spot, I came upon another
islet, known to the ancienta as Lig^eia, which was
also regarded as an iftlaud of the Sirens. It is
found about a mile from the shore in the Gulf of
Terina, and is now called Pictra de la Nave* It
is a mere rock, and I was told by an intelligent
^rentleman, Don Michel^ Prouida, who had a lar^e
property in Calabria, and spent the summer very
pleasantly on the shore close to the ruins of Terina^
ihst there are no remains of buildings upon the
rock. Craitfurd Tait Ram age.
THE DATE or CHAUCER'S BIRTH.
The SatTfrdat^ Jit v (etc of April 15 contains an
Article which, relating as it does to one of the
iirst and one of the trreatest of our English poet?,
must attract a good deal of attention. I have
jead it with greitt interest, for it dii^cusses the
date of Chancers birth.
Some thirty -live or forty years since, when a
few encouraging wurds from that distinguished
antiquary, my ever kind friend Mr* Douce,
awakened in me the ambition (long since extin-
jfuished) of conn *:*£ ting my name with the Catk-
ftfi'httty Tatea— iho'^G marvellous pictures of social
life in England iti the fourteenth century — I took
i;onsiderable pains tfl examine the question whether
Chaucer was bi>rn in 1328^ as generally believed
♦* from HiTme inscription on his tombstone/* to use
the words of Tyrwhitt, or abont 134G, as recorded
in the report of his evidence in the great Scrope
and Grosvenor controversy*
As the conclusion a^- which I arrived was in
favour of the earlier date, and consequently the
Inverse of that of the Suturdny Review 6i, 1 Imftt
the columns of " N. Sc Q." may not be 00B«
wQstefuily occupied by a note on the subject I
the consideration of any future biographer
Chaucer.
In matters of this natmre tradition is ef nd
slight authority ; and for four hondred years tr»-
dition has coincided with the statement tluit
Chaucer died in 14CH3 at the age of seventy-two.
It was not until 1808, when Godwin pubhibed
his Life of the poet^ and in it Chaucer s depo^tioo
made at Westminster in October 1386 in tli«
Scrope and Orosvenor controversy, in which doco-
ment it is said that be " wjis of the a^e ot forty lod
upwards/' and " had been armed iwenty-wn
years/^ that any doubt «ro*«e upon ibe stihjeet,
If this new evidence could be trusted, it «-''»'
make Chsucer's age at his death about t;!
instead of seventy^ and his entry into mi. — .^
service at about thirteen, |
As it is admitted that there cert^nlj are erfOW i
aa to the ages of other witnesses in this tr.
venture to think that there is a Tery j •
error in the case of Chaucer,
That a man who died at or about fifty-two rem
of age should in one of his poems, ** The Cxiclcm
and the Nigh tingale," descri oe himself as " ■ old* id
un lusty," is not what one would expect, ^^
Spenser, whose intenpe admiration of Cl^iWi^
genius must undoubt4?dly have led him lo i
fnto the circumstances of his life, &c.,
scarcely write of him, had be died at the (
age, aa
" Old Dan Geffrey (in whose gentle sprinir
The pure weil-hesd of poetry ilid dwell ),"
And these are instances, be it remembered, ^
might be greatly multiplied.
Moreover^ is not this tlieory of the
Chaucer at this early age contraJiicted by <
well*known and striking- portrait ; as wel
Green's description of him, probably derivii
tradition, in which he speaks of Chaucer**'
b aires both bright and sheen/' and
beard was white"?
Again ; from his earliei^t biographer^ Lelsnd^i
one of the latest of his editctrs, Mr. Wright, alU
concurred in speaking of Chaucer as a '^
*' He was certainly/^ says Mr, Wright, *
extensive learning, and had the educationi
gentleman.''
But if he '* was armed ** at thirteen, or (
aboutp how and where was he to aoauire
learning? What becomes of his resid
Oxford or Cambridge, or at any Inn of i
Tlies© are difficulties which may well caa
hesitation in receiving implicitly the statffinefl
which Chaucer is supposed to have made. M *•
the other hand, this record is inconsistent witk
all that has hitherto been received and bsli«i^ *
with respect to the poet's age, is it ponibls I
x^coucile the two statementaf Frrbaps in r
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
339
on of the paMage^ nat m a tranBUtion, bat
mda in tho ori^inaif may h«lp iis,
paaaage wkich liaa raUed oU this coil about
» date of Chaucer *» birth nin» as follows. My
laiacript la, no doubt^ suiliciently accurate;
tgh^ it having b«eii made 80 many years dnce^
aaot apeak very po«itiTely. Id the eaaential
ioto I know it ia'
It ^il be aeeo, in the lirst place, that Chaucer
ei not bimaelf nay that he is '* forty and up-
nda.^ That Jb recorded of him, and not de-
tred by him ; but let that paas : —
•* Geflray Chaucere, Eequier, del age de xL ana
plu9, armeez par xxvij ans, produit &c"
Perhapft the sight of this entry will auggett to
m reader, as it did to me, what i^ a very eaay
Station of the difficulty. It require* the mere
ipoaition of two Iffiers. The age is recorded
in Arabic, but tn Uoman numerab. Suppose,
th«* suppohitian is not very farfetched, that
scribe wrote XL, (forty) inaivertently for lx.
cty). Thi?t would make the year of hia birth
35^ m-t<'ttd of 1328, only two years eflrlier^ inatead
F li years later, than has hitherto been su|>-
^ i allow time for the eduezition which he
bkaarly Lad received ; und by this very ►'iuiple
* ge I venture to think we arrive at 8*>uiething
the real truth as to ** Old Dan Gelfrey'a "
IflL and remove a stumblin^-bl'jck out of the way
mw future biographera of the poet
William J. Thoms,
AN OLD Dirrctl NKWSPAPEK,
I have liad in my pixsBe-ssion for come short
le a tvpjigraphical curiosity iu the 6hap+' of an
It Dutch new«papt?r,eu titled " Ordinarisk: Mid-
^it^wetckse Cmirantt^ Anno 1(^52, No. 2/* which
^^Hited at tbe end to have been "Ghedruckt tot
-Jfenferdam V' oor de Weduwe van Francoys Lief-
flwodt, Bcwck-i'erkoopfter op den Dam. int Groot
^Bom* l«, Ai^r\ U Jniiuarij, Anno 1*352/' This news-
5*1 f»f a singltf sheet of large octavo
pa] ibout the aize of an entire page of
tb n>'n!iiit^ and printed close up to tbe margin?.
It i« printed in two columna on both mdea of the
pfier, and in black letter. It contain* new^ from
Viple^ of Dec, 8, 1<>51, from R^^me of 12th ditto,
from Vienna ('• Weenen") of 20th ditto, from
Itmdon of 2'.Hh ditto, from Paria of 30th ditto,
kL kc, Tho London paragraph contains allu-
iioiis if) the !*tate of Irekna, to " de Generael
Crrjrnw^l " '* Qeoerftel Major Overton," ** Mar-
q^ ;' kc, &c,
V of this ancient acrap is a little
5'i^ , ; Jjappened one dav to purchaaa at an
'>1J ! M a Uttie Dutch-English phrase-book,
^5* ' > u tch and En glish ) —
^"- I' ! J oti Scholf^'toMtrer : nr C^rUine Rules and
tpei wht:f^r til* SjUJrmofthcNethirhuidea m»y bee
in a ■hort time taught to read, understand, and ip«ak«
tbe Englub tongue,^
This book is a ]2mo, published at Amsterdam
in 1646. It bad been more recently bound, bow-
ever, AS I found the newspaper I have deecribedf
in two pieces, inside the boards, as one sometimes
sees music and printed matter incorporated with
binding even now, I eitracted it and got it care-
fully mounted, and it i» now, with the exception
of one or two lines about the middle, so perfect
that anyone acquainted with the Dutch tongue
would easily be able to read the whole of it
I take the liberty of sending you this short
notice of the Middd-wetck^e Courantv, in case it
may be of interest to some of your antiquarian
readera; and I shall be happy," if any one does
take any interest in it, toafford'such opportunities
for examination of it as may be arranged.
I may add that the little phrase-book is in itself
a very curious production. It contains at the end
some' " forms of mercantile writs, of which I
append that for **a bill of lading after the Hol-
land manner," and *^ a bill of exchange,'' The
form of the latter is, I believe, nearly identical
with that still in use. You will understand that
the Dutch and Engli^jh are printed in parallel
columns.
1. ** I, J, P. of Am»terdAm, master iind^r God of my
ship called tlie Saint Pet<;r at thi« pr»?st'nt lying ready i-i
the rivftr of AmMcrdam to saik- witli tho first good winde
which God AhmW give towiurt London, where my rigbt
unliiding sbal be, acknowle<l^e and cnnfes tliAt I hsv«
r«ceflved under the hatches of my forL'*ajd ship of you
a. J. merchaunt, to wtt» four pipe* of oile, two chests **(
linneDf sixteen bote of currrnl*, oir* ball of canva»e, fiviS
bals of pepper, thirteen rin^« i*( hra.sse wyer, ftftic bars
of iron, al dry Jk wel conditioned, marked irith thM
marke standing before, all which I promiie to dt4ivcr (if
God give me a prosperous voya»?e with my j^aid ihip> at
London aforesaid, to tbe wor»hipfu! Mr. A. -L to hi* fnv-
tour or a-wigncs, paying for tho fraif^ht i*f the forewiid
goods 20 fs by the too. And for the perforoianee of lUii*
before written 1 hind my Bell and all myne e^tiite and my
foresaid ship with all its'ippu^leh.11u_'e^.' In wiines wberv«f
[ hmve si^ifned three instrument* hereof with my name or
my pur*er in my bobolf al i>f on*i contents, the one bein^
per tormed the other to be of no force.
Written in Amslerdum the lift day of September, in tho
Ycare 1646.
J. 1?:'
2, '* In Ams^terdam tbe 6 September, 1645.
For li iOO fttarlinge.
At usance nol bavin pr my tin*t pay this my second if
exchange to Mr. P. L. i^r Wi^nps one hundred pounos
sterling, the vakw received hf re of Mr. .1. H. make uood
payment and place it to ac^^mpt nn per ndvise*
Year losing friend,
J* h.
To Mr. J. G.
Mcrchaotjt in Amsterdam/* ^
Cea&les B^tee*
340
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[4>^S. Vll. JUfJULStTI.
yjSRSKS BY <)ENEBAL BURGOTNE OK LOBD
PALMERST0N*3 MARRIAGE.
I was rummaging among same old papers tjie
other dttv, and found the following copy of verses,
writt<»n by the lat« General Burgoyne (author of
Th€ Heiress and other works )^ and addressed to
Ilia friend Viscount Pjxlmeraton (father of the
Premier) on his first marriage with Frances,
daughter of Hir Francia Poole. They belonged to
a relation of mine, who was an intimate friend of
General Burgoyne, and used to ^peak of hia con-
versation as the mo&l delightful thing pomble in
the email hours of the morning (1 and 2 a.m.) :
he was very fond of late hours when he could ^^t
any one to wt up with him, and few were found
to object These verses appear to me to be \^ty
well worth preservation, 1 have never seen them
in any collection of his works, nor in any maga-
xiDe^ nor 6.0 I believe they have ever been printed.
I have often seen it stated that General Bur-
goyne wa3 a natural son of I>ord Binglev ; an
Assertion perfectlv unfounded in fact, and I have
wandered that it lias not been contradicted by his
aon the present Field-Marshal. Hia dtsacent from
the family of Burgoyne, baronet, is clearly given
in Burke*d Pecraye and Buronvtage^ and tfie rela-
tionahip was always acknowledged by the late
Sir Roger and Lady Frances Burgoyne*
Perhaps you may think the verses too long for
insertion ; if so, make what use of them you will
I have another copy of veraea addressed to his
wife, Lady Charlotte Burgoyne, on her endea-
vouring to dissuade him itom going on a dan-
gerous expedition.
Unas u>i>KassKD to vissoor^iT rALHsaaraN osr nts
lUaaiAOE WITH FKASCIES FOOLK, OCT. 6, 1767.
** While, Palmerston, the public voic«
Diflplayi^t in eomineots on ihy choice^
Prai»e, cenaurc, or surprise.
Blames thy disinterested part.
Or interest find**, in warmth of hearty
Where Fanny 'a ireaaurt' lies.
<* Fain would my mdse, Lhn' ruiifi, sincore.
One faumble artJe4»« wreath prepare
To hind her lovely bruw;
With thee, would haU tb' auspicioaa mom,
Attend tbo bride she can^t adorn,
And blesa the nupti&l vow.
" Let tbfl dull cJaJtn^ of dne tsUtni
To lukevrarm crowds be praise supreme,
/ found pretensions higher :
For know, the heart now taught to beat
With ri:iend#hip's sacred temperate heat,
Hm once been tried in tire.
" Twfl« mine to see each opening cbarnit
New graces rise, new beauties warm,
Twai* mine to feel their power :
Natun ami morals, jost and par*.
For thre hare made the fhiit mature,
67ore T ariored the flchwer.
** After hard c&n^ct« paftniini cijol^ ;
Pr -- ' - - -.--.. K.^
A" ■ breast,
Willi kiutkiid dMriad aod virtu<i» Mat,
A sweet snccmtor came,
** Some year* of love we>c nambered d'erj
And, oh ! to ui^ny many oiore
May Hea%'tn the term extend,
To try with thee the pleaMng strife.
Which boAbts the most deserving wif<r,
Who proved the truer friend,"^
[We shall be glad to receive them.— Ed. ^ X. 4 <^T
" Tnr RoLLiAD,'*— Will no competent hiD^ll
tempted to give us a new edition of Tkt RciSd
with such explanatory notes am ate now needti
by ordinary readers, but the competent writen of
which are now rare and everr day b^^ooouBf
more so, so much so that the clasa will
extinct? When the task was suggea
Wilson Croker, he mentioned the late *
downe and Samuel Rogers as better qualil
himself, and that his Lands were olhei
Could Lord .Stanhope be induc^sd to C'm<
80 to employ the special knowledge of that
of English political life with which he mult
more amply provided than any other man**
J. E
[We are sure that all the read era of " X. A Q/
join with us inaoknowledging the value of the$i
m recofcni'^ing Lonl Stanhope's p^eculiar fitne
task, and in mo5t earne^tij hoping that be tn
consistent with other cLaima upon hi-
what in hb hand? would become a v
tributton to the history of political Si^t.
Kippis's Copt of the " Bioqrapbi v V<?Ark\
NICA.'- — I have recently discovered
been for some time the unconscious ]
a copy of the tirat edition of the Biogntpkttk
tmmkHf which proves unmistakablv to hate
the working copy of Dr. l^ppi*^ ' ^^
nnfioiahed seoonJ edition, Tne u
of the pages are literally covered with
tor's notes in shorthand^ and I have
the volumes a suilicient number of looaa
randa to tnake a small volume, some of w]
in his handwriting, and others notea c<^i
cated to him. The manner in which the arc
edition was to be ootupleted is clearly in
by the marginal notes. I shall be moit ha]
show the volumes to Any one int«reated in 1
Joseph Lnuuii
16, Linden Ylllii$, Blue Anchor Road* Dei
Babba-Dat HousEa, or Noon UouiBi. — A^
recent number of The Tmv^etkr i ft-* -^ Mi
chiuetts) fumiaheB the following
* V*A^O\wVAVt ^U»ley, daughter <if iiJwar' ^t
. Aritii, 22, '71.]
NOTES AXD QUERIES.
341
flMWiid Centre there in fltill itanding ouc of
Ufa former time, a Sabba-dayor Swm Hodm^
be modem convcniesces of ftofes jmd fumAces
^ eboniica, it w«ji Tcrf dedrsblc, iOer At-
¥ioo in ft cold m«etiiig4ioiiN, to hsve Mfoe
Ig the intennindao where the suHereis could
D them«!lv«A and eai their lunch. Some ii9od
laghlw ' :i^i38 tbiit were kindly opened
tar fn rs went to the tdTem^ which
l»n i^i' ind an open bar; otbem bailt
Iroi wiiat were caUfid Sabba-day or Noon
itor of the Congregation al charcb in Town-
TMent historical disconrte, deacribea these
he the one now standinj? at Townscnd, tbey
f foiir rooms ten or twelve feet square, with a
each rooni. They were generally built at the
me of four or more persons, to be occupied
.£«l»bfttlt by their respective families and such
^ invited' to join with them. Dry fuel was
md r«ady for kindling fires, and uaitally a
tk'r for each family was placed io tlie cellar.
! mominjc: of the Sabbath, the owner q( each
tied in hia sad rUe- bags the necessary refresh-
Nieelf and Ikmily, and took an early ftort for
~ At \v\n noon-honae, built a
led himself ai)dfkmil>%
— ^- .- r tfc^ were all ready to ially
» abiver in the cold during the morning aer-
bmue of worship. At noon tbey returned to
Ijouae with invited friends, where a warm
red them. The saddle-bags were now brought
I their content* diicharged on the table« of
partook a little. Then each in turn drank
' iheror mugfi of eider which had been brought
~ ' loe being performer], and thanks
_ ' waa spent tn reading notei
Ittomiiig Mrmon, a chapter from the
in some other book of a religious character ; not
k prayer was offered before retiring again to
ly for the afternoon worabifi. At the cImp of
I of the afternoon, if the weather was Kverely
kmOy returned to the noon-bouse to warm
before going home. The tires were then
Id, the «addle-bagi gathered ap^ the hoojie
I all returned home."'
UlflDA.
thiEAU OP Holy Maht." — Ti» fol-
thich I extritct from the Church TtmeSj
^^lti7l}f showa how old customs arc kept
fi^fte-way districts among the Wekb.
HH|FB tliere tie old people who nev^r
piTwitliout fidjing their Fader and the
^Mair, or Dream of the B. V. Mary.
this tranfilation of the lattei:—
IherMary, whv art thou weeping?
weeping, my<^n, but dreaming,
■^er Mary, what is thy dream ?
taken, m^ Son^ and crucidedf
■on of perrbtion, blinded and decciyed,
|; his fpear point into Thy side^ ,
f moat iIoTy filood doiring a stream.
rther Mary, art thoo ileeplog T
bhrred iSon, but T am dreaming ?
toH Mother, dost thou see in thy dream ?
Bt poMcaUd, inaultfld, and despised^
lioti the crota and 4ffiM'ifi<d.
The blind and the stubborn Jew Thee betraying.
Wine to nourish, water to cleanse.
He who repcateth this thrice before skcjdng
Need fear no unholy thought or dreaming.
** Holy Mother Mary, art thou sleeping?
Tf«, beloved Son, and dreaming.
What seeat thou in thy dream ?
I see Thee persecuted,' caught, and to the cross nailed,.
And a blinded man, by the wicked one deceived.
Thy holy left aide with spear piercing.
And Thy beloved and blessed Blood flowing.
True is the dream of Holy Mary :
He who knows it and repeats it thrice before sleeping,
No unholy dream shall disturb him.
He shall never tread the regions of hell,"
JoHiT PiGGOT, Jtrjr.
Fbekch Woot>- pig eons drttek by th£ Walt
TO Englaki>. — ^Fluellen told u« the connection
between Mncedon and Monmouth ; and a writer
on the doings of the Pytchley, in Land and Water
for Mart'h 25, has pointed ont the poftsibility of a
connection between the siege of Paris and the
flocks of wood-pigeona m England. He says: —
'*The woods are still wintry-looking, the primroaes,
violeta, and anemones only just beginning to open ; the
golden citkins of the sallow are the only conspicuous
flowers. There have been unusually large flighU of
wood-pigeons this winter ; they have come in search of
the acorni which have been so plentiful *, hut the popular
l>eHpf is, that they are natives of France, driven acToas
the Channel by the noise of the war, or, as one old man
expressed it, iJy the loomhenng over there, I have aliO
seen more stock doves and mere hooded crows than 1 have
ever noticed before. Old Perkins, the Drayton keeper,
who, in his eighty -fourth year, was out on a pony, and
thoroughly enjoying the ^ort, told me that he had never
*een so many pigeons befin-rf. He is a good authority,
ha\ingt before he hecjtrao ■ ler, spent more days
and nit;htfl in the wooi: i more sport in an
irrojuhr way than any ;u-i _ ;:ijiinty.**
This extract ^ems to me to he worthy of pre-
servation in these pages. Cuthbest Bkde.
** Gentlemek of tkb Patemekt." — This
phrase, used by Cotuit Bismard< in December,
1870, flcorofiilly to desigtiate the Provisional
Government of France, is of cnurri-s a figuratiTe
expreasion coinimon enough. **£trw sur le pa?6 "
is to be houseless, on the ^treet^. *^ Un batteur
de pav^ ** is one who has, in our shrng phnwe,
the " key of the street** The ** Mes&ieiirs et
Madacaes du pav*?,'* tho^e gentlemen and ladies
wiiose respectability is of the smallest kind, al-
most in fact inappreciable. We too have some
such slang in our tongue, t. e. " nymphs of the
pave/* — a phrupe not noticed by the ingenious
compiler of Ilotten's Slang DidiOf^ary. It is,
however^ curious to find an almost exact parallel
to Bismarck's phrase, which in its contemptuous
vigour struck the British public as something
new, in the works of one of the most eloquent of
our statesmen. In Burke's pcathing attack upon
some of hifl noble anifk^omaXa ^i^ >a5«i^ ^ ^ssr^
similar pbraae, e. p» \ —
342
NOTES AND QUERIES. [^-s.vii. Ar«i.si7i.
" If I fhonU fail in « fttnglo point 1 owe to the iilu3-
tH<vua perBOOKr I L-annot be supp.>.*4ecl to mean the Dako
of Hedford and the Eiirl of Laadenlalt^ of the Hoa^e of
Peers, but the Duke of Bedford and thft Enrl of Ijiuder-
daleof Pftlace Yard ! Men? thfi/ arr on thr ptivnment^ there
tht>y ««em to come nearer tu niv humble le\rel.*' — Burke'*
ITfTfAjt, Bohn*B wjition, 18G1» voL v. p. lU, ** A Letter
to a Noble Lord."
I Tain Friswku*.
7i, GrestBasadl Street, Bh^omJihury Square.
^umci*
Ausnir Faicilt,— Sinre sendinj? mj firf^t query
on tbiA aubjecty I find from a reliable Bourt'e Clint in
1658 Eichord Austin was a freetnan of th« vity of
London. His will wft« proved ftt tli« Court o(
iVobate, Middk^sex, in 1704, ** wlien ^samuel and
Jofieph Appraised tln^ if.Htjite of their honoured
father Richard, and Samuel aduiiniatered thereon/^
I have already piven William Austin '*of
Surry,** the father of Miiry* a.s ascertained by
Mary's monument in Kencott church, Oxon. This
Miiry was bom in 1015^ and, so far as dates are
concerned, she might be a ei^ter of the above-
named Riebard. Can any of your corre^ipondents
show whether this Hicliard was the son, or any
relation, of William Auatiu *' of Stirrv*' f
W. M, 11. CnFRCH.
Authors waijted. —
** But as for Jrnnt/ Jttmamy^ Betftf Bamrs, nod their
e^mpt^-ens, I never hxiy any of them, though 1 Imve looked
"ver the two lA.^t I have tiafued, in J heir pansa^e between
lAdy XorthumU'Tlaiid and Mrs. KLinjardom." — Letter fn*m
thr Ducheat of Somerset ttt Lfidy Lusborayuhf Decem-
rior 81, 1751.
Who wrote thoao two works named; or are
they the Dames of writers of the time P W* P,
[Thf History nf Jemmtf and Jettny Jettamtf^ in 3 vola.
I7M, is by Mr^^ Eliza Haywood, who for the looacnefls of
her ejarlv productions is gibbetetl in Tht Dnnciad, bcK>k iL
linea 157-hW.— 7'/i^ Hi*t»r^ of Baty BtsmtM, 3 vols,
I2qio, 1752. i* an anonymous novid, written (says the
M&Hihly Bevieu\ viL 47UJ for thtj kitchen*]
".'•Ksor's Fables'^ TIkwick.— I hare a volume
of—
** Fal>le-j of Miop and otlien* Jfeo., by S. Croxall, U,D,
The Sixteenth Ediiiion» carefully revised and improved,*'
17D8, pp. 32{K WoodeuU, 1^5.
Are tbe wooden ta by Bewick ? Vi, S>
[The woodcota in this volume do DOt appear to be
from Che graver of the Bewick*. There was an edition of
71tr Fahksof JE»op published at Newaistle in 1818» 8vt>,
with deaigna on wood by ThomaH lie wick ; but the jjreater
jiuniWr of cats in thia volume wtre designed by R* Jnhn-
aoR.]
*'* AllBUTHN^OT *' : '^ RCTUVKN '* : HOW PRO-
KOVXCED ? — AVill some well-informed Scotchman
tell me where the accent ought to be laid in
the nawQ Arbnthnot? I have heard natives of
Seat land place it on the second By\\ab\e; \iul m
^glmd It is commonly laid on t\ifs ^t%t. T\i^
I'
famous wit was evidentlr called Arbutimot bj
his friends. Pope, in hta fepiatlt?, sayi —
•^To second, Arbuthnot^ thy art and care.'*
More than six years ago ('* N. & ij/* 3'*
207 )» I asked for the orig;inal and true prom
tion of ** Ruthven/* but I have never bad
answer. I mentioned that an English (nmd
mine, who bears it as a Christian name, c-t
bimp*'lf and is always called '* Riven '* (rhyming
to givrn.) The name Rutbven h historical, vai
one likea to know how to pronounce It correctly.
Jatbxi.
[Lady Rhem is the title by which Lady Bixtbvva b
called by her Scotch fricndj.*! *
JoAKNEs Baptista's *' Commkntart OK Axi»-
totlk/'— The full title of the work is—
'' Philoaophia Aristoteliea restitutn, et illuAtrata. Qv
experimentia, quik ratiociniis nuper itiventK A Jobm
Bnptista, Presbytero Coitgre^ationb OrmUml Saanl
Philippi Nerii Ulyiaipponensiik^ Phllosophi« at Saoa
Theologia* Profesaore. Ulyaaippoae. 1748, fol**
Can any of your readers give me any infofiBi-
tion respecting it, especially aa regards the numbu
of volumes P It does not appear to be in the BritiA,
Museum librarv, nor do I find reference to iti
any available bibliography. W. J, F.
BKATJCHAMr* — May I ask HBRJirEsmt
whether she really means (4*** S. vii. 21U)
blazon the coat of Beaucbamp of W^ari
showing only three cross crosalets ? If so^
kindly say where she lindii the coat s«3 gtnt
may 1 presume to suff^gest to Hermextri
her inexperienced readers mi)^ht require tt
that the coat QideSi ft lion passant ^uardant
rampant) or, crowned argent, u really l)j© ooal
fierard or Gerald assumed by the De I'lsle fat *
ftswaii cuutomary ? Their own coat wae Of,afe
between two chevrons sable. They b)tb m
repeated togistber several times, on the toau
Ambrose Dudley, Earl of Warwick, in the Bew-
champ Chapel, Warwick. D. P.
Stuarts Lodge, Malvern Wdl&.
Rkv. TnoMAs Brooke.— Where is any L-
to be found of ♦* ]Sf aster Thotnas Br%>ok%*PrBft
of the Gosnel at MargaretV, New Fish Stiwl,'*
1657 ? I nave reason to believe that a familj ia
this city ia descended from bim. Ue wi« '
author of several works. tJjriSA- \
PhilAdelphia.
[An account of Tlinroa^ Brooks, with
works^ may be found in Calani)*** Af^ritl^^mr;
mer^a Noncon/ormitt** Memorial,
The Rev. A. B. Groaart has nu
Thomu.4 Brookfl for a collective cdi_,.. , , ..., ..„ --
*' ^, A Q.;^ 81^ S. iv. 228L]
CHAEL1S9 L — Can aoT one inform me into whf)*^
hands pieces of the ribbon of the Garter woni bf
Charles the Martyr at bis executioii jiuij htm.
ctraife^ Wv*^ au^ \1&0Q in my ] ' ^'^
AinilvJ
a list ef I
4*a.Vn. AnutX^IL]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
34S
Its deMent triiodd to about 1745. It seems tbat
when Juxon banded over the jewel to ita lawful
^wuer he kept the ribbon for hiniae)/.
W, J. Makbey.
KviSAr5CB, — Sir Bulwer Lytton, in two
^ea of his Kin^ Arthur (I quote from 2nd
^1849), iiaes the word " die visa unce '* in a
• manner —
fik were those times of trustful chevt«aunc«/*
Bk. viiL»t. II.
iftd furth— bold cJiild of Christian chevi^aunce! '*
Bk. XII. jjt J 95.
would seem almost aa if Uie poet used the
word as ?vnon3?mou8 with *' chivaSjy," or, at all
rvent^f were ignoring the dilterence between capid
nod caha/his. To those acGustomed to the ordi-
nary nierc^iQttle use of the word in Chancer, Lang-
L«iKi« Gower. ki\, the etTect is somewhat ludicrous.
Chftucer^ McTcImnt^ '* wiihhis bargayns nnd with
s *a u nee ' ' ( Proioy «<*, 1 . 282 ) , an d Langloiid 'a
with hb ** eschaungea and cheuesancen **
u*'xt Ik pjisR, V, 1. 24t>, ed. Skeat), nre 8o directly
tDtipodni to Sir Lancelot and the Arthurinn
Sir Bulwer Lytton, at the first-quoted line,
Ttfewi to SptML^er; and I find a pa^^age {luurit'
Qicivff<r, hk. 11. canto ix, st. 8) where the word in
I. in a B**nhd somewhat ftimtlar to that of the
|»m poet*a^
'Fortune tlie foe of famoas chevisaunce,
Seldom/ said Guroii» * yidds to vertne atdc* ^'
odd here glosses ** enterprise " ; nnd, expressly
iu»lijj^d R5 it 18 by the adjective ** famous," the
woni \H ♦easily to be understood,
la an<iilii*r passage ( Shepheai'tT s Caletidar^
*• Miy,"' L I •2), Spenser uses the word in its com-
tt'jo mercantile sense—
"They tnaken many a wroag chexismmec/'
Cotgmvo gives —
*' CS-ris'sfinr* , f. An ftgfeemeiit or coni(K*sitirtn mtkde;
iani4 or order stt down between a crciUtvrr nod debtor.%
1 iL^k, is ^' cbevisaunce ^* used in the sense of
lnii;;hily achievement by any other of our early
'Poet« f I can recall no instance*
JoHK Audis.
HtuHn^on, near LiU]ehamplon« Sussex,
f^^nxfTT, FAMILY, — Can any of your readers
1- h me with a brief gene*tlogical his-
" mails or Cornelia ? Can the families
^••uj-j^ Lhe^e names be traced to the Bame paren-
t'V' ' The Hon. Eitra Cornell, founder of i\u>
C'^rrll University, Ithaca, U.S», sflys that hi;*
*-' ton?, Thomas and Rebecca Corndl, emigrated
^[i or about the year IC-'iS from England to Ame-
'^<^-A; but he knows nothing of their pareota^.
<^*ii a genealogical connection be traced out be-
^T»itn the CoTJieJbf CorDoIb, Coruwelh, Corn-
wall3, and the French ComeiUes ? Did the ancient
district of Cornwall give rise to these names ?
Replies to these queriea, fent to the Key. R* C,
34, I'ortland Square, will he thankfully received.
CRACFrRBS OF NEWARK, RaRONETS. — III
Burke's Banmvtagv for this year, the arms, crest,
and motto of this family are given as those of
Craufurd of Aucbenames, Kilhimie, and of the
Kerse family, descended from Sir Gregan Crau-
fiir*i. Is not this combination erroneous?
The family of Crnufurd of Newark is clearly
deduced from Auchcuame.'? by George "Crawfuru^
the well'known Scotch antiquary.
I« there any reason to doubt the accuracy of
his judgment J' aL
EpiTHETf* OF THE MoXTHS. — I was speakbg to
a c<.»untryman the other day in East Lancashire
about the weather. ** Aye," ho said, *' ifs March
manyiccather$,^^ The expression struck me be-
catij^e it was evidently a proverbial and alliterative
epithet for the month. So I asked him if thefe
wen? ftimilfir names for the other months. ^* Well/'
he said, ** theri»*a ¥ehruAr j Jill- dyke; but I know
no more than that" This epithet is also allitera-
tive, and I cannot doubt the other months have
their corresponding sobriquets. He said, marc-
over, that thkrre was a rhyme to the February
one, which ran thus : —
" February fill-dyke
Either with black or white " ;
that is, as he explained, either with rain or snow.
Perhaps the other epithets may be known to soHie
of the readers of ** N. & (J." U, It, K.
Grantsam Jys Higns,— There is onu remark-
able circumstance connected with Orantham which
I noticed while spending an hour in the town — the
slgna of some of the inns. There was th e 1 iluf* M nn,
the Blue Lion, the Blue Horse, the Bhio Bull, tbi^
Blue Cow, the Blue Ram, the Blue Shpep, ami
the Blue Pig; lastly I observed a small stre«^t
cnlled the Blue Gate. There may be other bluii
things which I did not notice. Whence this curioifc*
penchattt for the blues? E. L. Br.E.^KIXSOPF.
Maids of Honour* — Can any of your cor-
respondents inform me whether there is in ex-
isleneo a list or memorandum of the various
** maids of honour '^ to the queens of England
from the vear 1688 to the present time ? If there
is such a Ust» how and where can it be seen ?
EaiiT.
*^Mf>WAGF.R ni-lS 8CIKNCK« ET DE8 ABT8,"
vol. ii., G^md, 1823-4.— I should be obliged if any
reader can tell me where 1 can hee the above,
besides the copy in the British Museum; or if
any correspondent could lend me the ^ame for a
week I would be \«t^ ^&\jfetMV, wv<i t^'roxTi V\^
all expenses pni^. "^ ,^k^«s.^-
7, Ued lion Square.
344
NOTES AND QDERIES.
[4«»'8.VILApto.H,'
Old FiitrLiEd without Coat ^Vrmoitr. — Aro
an^ of jour readers aware of such a oase as that
of a family wliich liaa held the bame estate for
two ceatiiric'?, and the head of which was a hun-
dred and Mxy years ago high sheriff for the county,
the said family aot poaaeasing any armorial bear-
ings ? P.
PoBTTJGU^B Copper Coin, — I have a Portu-
guese copper coin, weighing about 1^ ox., with
the following inscriptiouBy &c. : —
06r. /Vrma of Portugal —Josephfs , i . i> . g .
aBX. p* T . n.oiriNicjt,
B^, Macuta X , 1770, Ajtbica . Portuoubza*
Am I right in my conjecture that tliia is a coin
struck for the special use of the West Coast of
Africa ? I can find none such in any list to which
1 have access* Any account of it will be accept-
able. 0. W. Bingham.
Eablt Queens op Suotlaitd. — Miss Strick-
land begins her lives of these queens with Mar-
garet Tudor, the sifter of Henry VIII. Have the
lives of the earlier queens been pubUahed, and by
whom ? C. D. C.
ROKESBT THE SpiES. — There were two English
spies in 1567 whose names were Christopher and
Anthony Rokesby. They are mentioned at p. 362
LOf Mr, Hosack 8 Maiy Queen of Scots and her Ac-
r«, and elsewhere in the volume. Is it known
r what family they were ? Can it be that these
loundrels were «;ion8 of the knightly house of
Jokeby of Rokeby and Mortham ?
A. 0. V. P
SlOW-I^-THE-WoLD, Co. Gloucesteb. — In
what diocese was Stow-in-the-Wold included be-
fore the see of Gloucester was erected by Henry
Xllh? C. DC.
Tetra&okal Iksobiption.^ — The accompany in<r
and beautiful tetragonal inscription was found
among the papers of a clergyman recently de-
octtaed:^
" E. Poat tcnebraa, lox.
8* In Juce, epes.
W. Ittobitu. pax.
N. Post iibitum, sulua.'"
A friend informs me that it is found upon a cross,
inscribed on the four sides of the pedestal and
facing the four winds, on the Hinds Hill, near
; / Godalming, and it is believed that the said crosii
pF}4^}^f^replaced a gibbet on which the iiMUidMiA»[Fl, who
murdered an English sailor, were hun^ in chains.
j If you could discover the origin of tbe words, 1
^^ should be greatly obliged. H. M. I.
w
I ttm.
^» wan
ston« with s rude sealpture, repr»aiiCing tfie thm
mfBana kilUng their ▼icdm, and a rfaymin^ laxsipliDQ
below. See Murray V Hamdbook of Surrey,]
VuLOATE^ A.D. 1516. — Having a fine aad nsarlj
perfect copy of the Vulgate, printed by Johfl
Moylin at London on April 12, 1510^ I shouid be
much obliged if any librarian can refer ma to hit
copy of this edition which has a title-page, tkt
Bntish Museum copy has no title.
FrAKCIS T. HArEBHAL
Hereford.
Walthamstow Parish Lajh). — There ii i
long slip of land belonging to this paiisih mnm§
parallel with the entire southern boundaiy of tfe
main portion^ but dividing the adjaining pral
of Ley ton into two parts; and there is a indiCtoft
that the piece of land waa acquired by Wallhio-
atow on the occasion of a dead body being csnid
along it. Now this is very uncertain and '^fft'ij
and I have searched in vain in the cimntv**
tories for any reference to it. I shall be ;
obliged if any correspondent could find aoyc
reference to it in print. WAtism]
** Wrmr as FLAJowrgs FLAccra." — Whn \
the following Unea ? on whom were they wtiU
and when ? —
** Witty u Fhiminla* Blaoeiw,
Aa ^at a Jacobto as Gracebtii,
Aa flit, but not so -=— ^I cannot remaiaber fht i
here] as Bacefans,
Hiding tm a littk jnekasa^
The Zodiac. — It is aaid that the sips <
the seven planets are of unque«tioaably hi^fii
tiquity, and figures resembUng them are foa
on Egyptian monuments. Can any neadar '
'• N. & Q," say when or by whom the' p
breviftted or curt signs of" the zodiac were i
{as it seems) from the respective animal repw
tations? J.F,'
Wioterton.
f<H
[The way-ride rmaa on the summit of Hindu Dill
WW erected in 1851 by Sir William Erie, and is coo-
ttrneled of Comiih granite. Th(s murder ollLided to
was committed by three mUors on Sept. 24* l78fJ, and the
dv roJleti into the hoHow of the ** Devil's Puncb-bowl"
the ndgbboarini^ churohyiml of Thuriley ii a head-
SSI rpltr^.
TEIE COMPLETION OF ST. PAUL'S C AT HIDRAl-*
(4»* S. vi. jxtfisim ; vLi. 185, 241.)
It is to be regretted that the remarki so
made in reference to this great under
just too late, as it would appear bv a^
m The Time* a few daya sinew that the coi
charged with the duty of carrying out th«
I je<jted worka have come to a resolution by wl
' the objeotion able arrangements mentiooedbT
BoMKEs Clarke are really to be canied
I effect. Let us hone, however, that it ia not jfi
I too late to induce the committee to rveon^ttftbi
. matter^ and that another acheme ao ably trettad
in the first number of 7^ Saari^'m%f ^
JIte
€*k8.VIl. Apim.i2,7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
d46
thoYotiglily Tentilftt^d before any actire operatioQa
IM begun.
There cim be no doubt that coDtracting the
■bancel, and hj the erection of two aide organs,
would most senoasly damage the interior «?ffect of
the building. The plan proposed in The San^tst^
fif retaining the present choir arrangements for
ordinary daily aervices, and the construction of an
note-choir with elerated altar and baldachino
lightly advanced under the domo^ »eems to meet
nil the require menta. The great organ might
t»*main in tn« transept; all the worshippers in the
dome area, transept, and nave could then join
ht^artily in the aeryice^, imd not preaching only,
but thn whole of the church aervioee would fce
performed in the presence of enormoua congre-
nttoiis* The detaila of this scheme are admirably
QCtCiibed in the pages of Tfie Sacristy, and it la
greatly to be desired that the committee will not
dedin- t- reconsider the subject simply because
it r li by outsidera. It will be matter
for -^ ret if so great an opportunity is loat
kt eurrviug into effect the Tery oest plan which
can be devised.
Let it not be forgotten that in the year 1847,
when the Dean and Chapter of Weitminster
mad^ their great alterations in the Abbey^ how
mlly they missed the opportunity of doing the
right thinz, and instead of removing a modern
soeen and aliifting two monuments, whereby the
«iitite area of the nave might have been u^ed for
OODgregational purposes, they preferred seating the
tnniept, placing people in such positions that the
AfeAter number can soe neither the altar, the
dttgy, nor the capitular choir ; in fact, dividing the
geni body of worshippers into three separate
C^rntrrt'LTfttiona.
' now before me No. 20j of Th^ PariMh
I /, Chunh Music-Book, in which the de-
ft i*«t*ot th'^ ,ii r. u^ement are m >dt forcibly shown,
V arr'! - ]-'.\l^u /i.-u to show bow easily the nave
riTe been naed and every eccle«iift.gtical
.wed. Ar^umenta of the most convinc-
1 accompanied the plan, which was advo-
1 a ver^' able manner by the He v. W,
r William Cope, BarL | Cope, then precen-
1 yet, in spite of all the moat sensible
adations, other coun.«eU prernikd, and
L-ee in consequence the present nncom-
■irrangemeuts. Circumstances, however,
^^n now compelled the Deaa and Chapter
. open the nave for special service.?, llow
7 belter the etlect would be with the
..^t-.^*>n reiDuved, and the clerg)' and choir
places!
•>f your renders who take an interest
in ci to the admirable article in The
/'. ta which I have alluded. I have
tr, id my purpose in referring
t^ wh*>n the qnention und'?r
diacussion relates to St. Paul's, but the caaes a»d
similar, and the mistake made in the former
building should be a warning to the committee
at St. Paul's. Bekj. Febret, F.S, A,
ORDERS OF KNIGHTHOOD.
(4**» S, T. xlpaMim; vii. 100, WT.)
HoMUXOULTTS, ei^twhile my approved good com-
rade and ever my valued triend, has for years
permitted his sword to rust in it^ scabbard»hii9
taken to the healing of wound.i instead of the
making of them — and bids fair for canonisation ;
whilst I, not tinding the world to be yet f^yod
enough to roll on smoothly without some fighting
occasionally, am content, like the Black Douglas,
to let my hands defend my face and to remain a
man of war as of old.
When the English Knights of St John were
attacked anew, on apparently fixed principles, by
the Roman clique — which of late, under orders
from the Propaganda, has striven to force itself
into notoriety, and to u!^urp n position to which,
although favoured by papal patronage, it baa in
this kingdom but tne shadow of pretension —
lIOMUlvcuLua and I di^'ered as to the coarse to
be pursued by those interested in the cause of
progress. He, good man, in spite of all I could
urge, must need;^ in your columns preach j»eace
and union and other Utopianisms ; whilst 1^ be-
lieving bloodletting to be advisable under the
circumstances, would fain have let the men fight
out their quarrel by themselves. Not that I like
their Jit}4e of lighting ; for more than oue of these
Ultramontanea deal strange under ha tid*^d blows,
and withal are »cant of courtesy. In^itructed,
doubtless, by ghostly advisers and by the claver
advocate who^e professional ability 1 admire, their
plan would seem in thia, as in other quarters, to
Dfi aggressive, self-asserting, and uncompromising ;
trusting by dint of subtilty of argument and
fierceness of attack to make gtiod their footing,
and to prevent their opponent* from carrying the
war across the border, Their tactics, so often sue*
cefisful, may on this occasion have deceived many
who, ignorant of facts, are carried away by loni
talking; and this the more, since the English
knights, forbearing to culpability, would seem to
be sufieriojr from an onslaught of railing priests
or of scolding women, and aye acting on tne de*
fensive of a consequence, have never once charged
home nor have striven to turn the tide of battle
in the opposite direction. No one ctin admire
courteous forbearance more than I do; for I hold
it to be unseemly to batter out the brains of a
braggart with a bludgeon, when he can be deli-
cately despatched with a small sword. By such
observances the man of refined feeling, in matters
milharv, is <;ver careful to avoid unneceaaajt^J
346
NOTES AND QUEKIES. Li'»s.vu..
violence, lurl to murk the great gulf fixed be-
twee-i the kni^rht nnd the butcher or the burglar,
I**»t the Knpli.sh ♦)^ti^^^ beware, however, lest the
charity ami torbearnncei of it? m6mb«*M deg»?ne-
rate into wenkneiss. Tnie^ their good deeda have
hitherto enlisted our sympathiei* in their favoyr,
but we like men to hare stiff backbones for all
that.
iloMUNCUtua had his own way with me as
ufloal, and he wrote to ** N. & Q?* whiUt I re-
mained silent His excellent oil fell into fire
rather than npn troubled water.?, and the eom-
bfttRTita went ttt it again, attack iind defence, a^
hard ns ever. And what has this peace policy,
this self-rej^traint, brought upon tlie^e English
knittljtsi Y A Bunyan ha.-? arij*4*n h-y plague them
(4*'* 8. vii, ICH>) : an apnlojj^ue has bt*ei\ broiler ht
to bear ujvoti them, and the jeaters, raarotte in
handp will beat them out of the li»t*» nnlass they
plnck up heart o' grace and at least eilence D. P.,
who with hia allegory — that ill-con reived and
fearfully and wonderfully made inBtrnment of
aelf-destruction— has alreatly done himself a mia-
chief, and may be easily dir^posed of by anr eingle
inignt who won't mind about closing with him.
Aa for the defimned repTe?*entative man, who
haa taken to call himself St. John since he has
come recently to England on a mission from
Rome, hifl pretensions would have provoked but
a smile, bad he not proved so pertinaciously
nggresFive. Should he fail to amend and to disann
public mticit«m by iuiilating the charitable rx-
ampl© of the good knipht whose name he has
assumed, let him look for smsU mercy from all
who -wear nineteenth*eenturv .spectacles— who,
Tiewingwith distrust and dislike uny symptom of
a return to the bigotry, intolerance, and j^piritual
terroriwrn of the ^liddle Ages, mean to keep Eng*
land for the English ; and who, in comparison
thereto, care but little by what name a body of their
conn try men, long united for purely philanthropic
purposes, may choose to be known, or what ancient
oontratemity they may legitimately represent
I challenge I). P/s representative man to sub-
mit, if be dare, to the readers of '* N. & Q.''
proof of the claim he ha^ so loudly taken upon
mmself to assert ; after which (to borrow a sen-
tence from the gt«at allegori.<*t), it will *' rpmain
to be seen what Opinion will do for the rn w Mr.
St John.*' MtLKs,
legitimately hear the anna of that iUa
house, or can with propriety ^ueetiOQ the i
of others,
Clnrt^r Lodge.
Sm GoRUEOFJ* TiNTACK regrets that his name
should have bet^n introduced into a discussion
relative to the claims of a Mr. St John, who has
recently arrived iu this con u try from Italy.
D» P. ia informed that Mr, St. John must ad-
duce evidence before the constituted authorities
in support of his alleged descent from the ancient
f&Buly whose name he has assumed^ ere he can
THE BOOKWORM
(4»'' S. vi. 527; vii. 6*5, 108, 262.'
The following elegant lines will b© read
scholar with interest, alike from iheir me?
the excellent cautions they gire. The auth<
Pierre Petit, a physician of Paris, who call
Latin poetry with such success as to ei
himself a place among the eminent men — 1
Oommire, La Rue, Santeuil, Henago, and I
rier who, with him, were held to con^tttul
celebrated poetical '* Pleiade '* : —
** In Blattam,
Insect! ^nii-s hbri* infestum.
Inxnaam Musis pccups aiiflax \w"
Chart4%ninri, immundo (juatti j •^\^^%
Tune sacros iiudts <'orrmnp«^re of"
tJivinte egregian peTderc ni«ulii» ujjes ?
Qitaa nou ira it ovist, non ulta Jibi*lcfts \'y1a5l^
SuAtinuit, siDVo, peril Jn. * * .,= 7
.Atqui debebos j«oln9 non t. ^,
NuKceiKii tipt^ eftt, et g» i la,
Te potius ditf^ Iana\ le purpuru |ni5>cat,
Quotktimquci ct uitilier Uuniaria pinglt opus.
Te vastare favft* divjni Musa Maroois
.\dmonuit docto carmme, parva qu^retw;
At tUt proh tadnuH ! Jon^jje moliora Uournm
Dona r»pia : qiiunto hjic fmudp, scelestji msi^fi
Quid juviu in lihri« taiito? pc>soi»e labom ?
Si quo.^ eandidimu.^ perdere blatta poiesL
Quid luquor ? nut quao nunc mihi mentfto i
turbat ?
In rnpidoi atxinut iniproUa diVta notm.
Nan til, Blatta, *ed eat oulpanda j^navia nostra*
Tu lifGt ipsa niK*ii, at priur illa iitHLtt.
Non residcii cbartu^ tend»ri- damnaniu* o]
Tq male c«mpo;»itas s^cdula carpifi op*** ^__^
0 utinani info«6o« pontj^ea (pioque rodero numonfllt'
Abdita quos parri ^tniTt^^ulat arcasenij^.
Quis danmet quail sic .sprer-as uldacerU artei If
Musanim imptilsu forsitan otc movi».
Haud a^liier vate* faatu irritata tynmaif
Dioittir Atisoniis fata dediARe focis.
Si tnmen in te aliqua est pktaa, yenemrt pri*Wtf
Cams, neu ^tim <)cripta veranda pete,
Kagaces potiiiB qui proAt^nt undique, libro*
Contort, sunt digni dent* perire too.
If iif-' ^tiam qun; luM in te, mala cannina, 6dena
All^^maa per me : aunt tua namque; licef,**
" Petri Pctiti, Pbdoaophi et tH>ctorif Hi
Stlerinrum Pofmatuwi^ libri UtHK |pCi
Pariiiia, l*m, p. 4K
1 have lonf»" been in the habit of markisj^
a small pencil *' tick '■ any vermicular
that I have found to exist in a new^
book, and have thus been able to
yondadoubt that this insatiable marauder
held the contents of my own shelves sacred
hia depredatioas. Moreover, I have observed
certain old hooks^ which I have had rel
4«*&Va April W,7U
NOTES AND QUERIES,
347
myself f hnve eufiered, eepeciftlly At the interoAl
ilexure of the " end-pftpera," and this when I
could not Und a corresponding externn.1 aperture
of eDtrance. The maggot itaelf I have often
seen *'cribVd, cabined, and contined** in a pri-
eon of his own construction, and thua causing^
adherence of several pages together. The only pre-
vention id the frequeDt taking down of yniir
\ booka, removing the dust fiom the top edge and
tbe headband with a brush, and beating them
well together out o' window.
William Bates.
inghjiiii.
[So Mr. Blades caught a worm, and I *' nipped
I in the bud'M I regret to have friiHstmted his
Taphical intentioDPj but am consoled by the
lection that his plan of making a puprr cage for
prisoner was almost as likely to answer its
rpoee as would be an attempt to contine an
elephant in n cobweb.
Tub Shade op Da Bandinel.
Ufiiui Fieldj.
In the very interesting account given by the
^» F. T. Hatergal of these pests, he says;
'hey have a hard outer skin, and are of a dark-
iwn colour. 1 have never found these insect*—
w« ihet/ are not — alive and at work/* I beg
to iDclose one of the sewml kind^ mentioned by
'Vb. H\vero\l, which I have just caught "* alive
*Qd at woik/^ underneath a smiill heap of saw-
ttu^t ttf its own making, on fin old book -ah elf,
^liich I fear I fihall have tocnuaign to the flames,
^ every year I lind a gieater numljer of holes in
'^ As to the first kind of itisocls, with a hard
outer akin, and of a dark brown colour, the wood-
"^Hn^ beetle, with wings, I cannot but help
■ ^^king it is one and the same t*pecie-^, only at a
Hperent peno<i of the year. As the ritterpiilar ii*
Hfcngtfd nrst into a chrysalis and then into a butter-
jj^> so I fancy these small white worms with a
"*»d brown substance at bead and tail are after-
wards turned into the small brown beetle. This
conjecture arises from the fact that, going habitu-
^y to the country later in the seaiinn than this
y<iar, I have always seen the beetle, and never
tbe worm before, at work. P. A, L.
There is a very interesting pnera on the " Book-
worm " by Dr. Thomas Pa rn ell, but which is said
^ be (in one of my copies of the woiks of this
^HHJi an ^'unacknowledged translation from a
^Blin poem by Be z a /* Is t his stateme n t a ffecti n g
lie originality of the poem correct ? J. Perry.
Waltham Abbtn.
The bookworm being now fairly hunted '*to
earth/' is it not time to refer to Pamell^s pleasing
jiUla po€m upon the subject? W. (1.)
ORIGIN OF THE SUKNAME CUNNINGHAM.
{4?^^ S. m,pauim; iv. 62, 170; rii. 221.)
It may be necessary to recollect that this term| j
besides neiog a personal sum am 43, is also the name^
of one of the three great divisions of the county of
Ayr^that which is separated from Kyle by the
Irvine, as Kyle is from Carrick by the Doon.
W, F. (2), quoting an entry in the Kirk Seseiotti
records of Diwdonald P. of 21 June, 1007, in
support of the cmtey theory, adopted by him, as it
would appear, in the wake of the author of Cak'-
donia\ has evidently misread that entry. Stein ^
Wildon in Gailes (now generally written Crayles,
a farm well known ^ (situated a mile and half or so
south of the burgh of Irvine, and in Dundonald
P) is given up, or reported to the Kirk ISession '
as having transgressed the discipline of the kirk
in having shot, with a hackbut, ** at ye connyngis
in Corsbie'a Oonyngam in St. Madanes/' on a
Sunday, fifteen clays before, W. F. says, that
'^ Corsbie's '* means the laird of Corsby's Con-
yngnm ; that is, we presume, the laird of Oorsb^'s
lami^ cftikdConjnahmt and which lie in or within
St. Mndanes. Either that is the meaning which
\V. R put4* on tbM entry, or be may possiibly sup-
pose that the Laird of C. was sumamed Cam/naani.
In the latter case, however, the entry would have
stood Cor^ie^Cmiifjigam — meaning land called
Corsbie, owned by Conyngam — and not ** Corsbie*e
Conyngam*** which can only import land of the
name of Conyngum belonging to tne Laird of Cora-
bie. Neither eonjecture will stand an examination.
Dundonald parisn, including Gailes, a three pund
land of old extent, U in Kyle, not in the Cun-
ningham, district. There is no land in Dundonald
paritth, or even in Kyle, called Conyngam j and
none of the lairds of Corsbie ever bore such a
surname. That, on the other hand, was Fullerton*
designed generally of Fullerton, or Of that Ilk,
but vet sometimes of Corsbie, tmd of Dreghom.
Corsbie was a twenty pund land of old extent, on
which, prior to the Reformation of religion, was
an ancient chapel dependent on Dundonald. W.
pendicle of land belonging to the laird of Corsbie
called St. Madanes, lying contiguous to the chapel
of Corsbie, and also to Troon, a flourishing sea-port,
where is a way or street now called St Medans,
And as the old religious ho uses were always dedi-
cated to some holy person, there is much reason
for believing that Cforsbie Chapel had St. Medan
for its tutelar saint. Several parish kirks were
dedicated to him, as for example Toskertoun, called
also Kirkmedan, in the presbytery of 8 tmnraer, and
that of Kirkmdden (the cell or kirk of St. Medan),
Bums* " Maiden Kirk ^* in the Rinns of Galloway.
In forming an opinion of the ori^a oC Cuftwwq- i
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*^ 9. TIL Aj'MlI3,7L
II
hanif it m&j not be improper for W. F. to con-
sider tlie eaxlieat forms in which the name iip-
peaffl, Taliesin, a iWekh bard of the seventh
century, calk it CatHmtm, '■ Carawg (eayb Mr.
W. F. Skene), taken In combination with Coel
and Canauon in line 28, shows that the three
pro?iiice«sof Aytihire — Carrick, Cyle, andCuninj-
iuLxa — are meant/' (Four Aitc. Books of Waies^ li,
407*) The Ven. Bede, in his Hcc, Ilistoiy^ which
was finidhed in the beginning of the eighth cen-
tury, calla it InomMmnf^m. (Mon, Hist. BrtL
bw T. c. 12.) The chromclera Hoveden^ and Ben:
AMto, speaking of a well near the Kirk of St,
Vbmiii running blood for eight successive daye
and nights durinj? the year 1186, saya this well
lay *' infra CuniDham " ; (L e, in the lower part of
C.,) and near to the Castle of Irwine, And in
many charters, copies of which are preserved in
the monkiAh registers of the twelfth and thirteenth
ceoturiea and later, althouprh the orthography is
Tery various, it is generally found assuming the
forms of Koninglmm and Cunigham. Keeping,
those early forms of the name in view, it may
be a proper subject for inquiry and consider-
W^JBffl, whether names of places in Ayrshire, in
the time of Taliesin , Bede, HoTedeu, benedictus
Abbas, &c., could be other than for the most part
Celtic (British, Welsh, Erse, or Gaelic), or at
least Otiltic with some little admixture of the
speech of the Scandinavian population of the so-
called kingdom of North umbria, in which the
western shires of Scotland were sometimes, and
for period^} greater and leaser, included, (Bede*8
HU. r* 12 ; Robertson's Earh/ Kings,)
EsrsnABS.
*^ Chalmers points out that CSming is the British
=^ rabbit, and that Cmiingfmvi simply means *the
^ace where rabbits abound.' *' The Saxon word
Xammcfkenf rabbit, or a<* it was formerly spelt,
€mmok€^ (8tfe N. Bailey's Dictionary) has a
family likene-sa to Cmiin^kam. V. A, L.
photographic accuracy, has n<^ omitted this fea-
ture. In dascribing the Old Himtsiiift&'s funeral
he says : —
" The old btrntamoa gatfaeied roaad the grave ia i
Aolid ring, eaoh holdingliu dog by the slip, aad vbn
the final a*he§ to asheSf dutt to du$t was pronoaneed, tht
whole atpewed their sprigs of rosemary over the cflfia,
then raiain^ thoir heads, gave a simultiineous * Ytt-ho!
tail v-ho I ' tho Aound of which became beighleoed ttjr the
dn|i^a jotning their voioea as thev raag ibe last erfOfW
thoir * eartheti ' companion/' — Chromcht qf IFofcrlop,
p. 164.)
It is also alluded to in Mr. Edwin WaogbV
poem of ** Owd Enoch ^ : —
* An* \Then they put Enoch to bed down V th* graawadt
■ " ■ ddad na
ROSEMARY USED AT FCKEEALS.
(4**' S. Tii. 200.)
In South Lancashire the use of roaemary in
funeral rites is still observed. The injunction of
the Friar may yet be heard (albeit in other
words) : —
" Df}" up your tears, and stick your rosemary
On ihia fair corse.*'
Sprigs of rosemary are placed on the corpse aa
it lies receiving the laat Tisita of old friends ; and
it is also usual to scatter them in the grave as
the pAtson reads the most solemn words of the
solemn bimsd d&rviee, Mr. Brierley, w'hoee ^\c-
tares af LHncashire life are genexaliy marve\A ol
A rook o' poor aeighb<iurs stoode bare^yeddad nawml ;
They dropt sprigs o' ro^emarj, an' thia war ibeJr xxxi*
Th' owd craytera laid by— wc may haply be tb* oext'
Roaemary was one of poor Kirke Whitill
favourite flowers ; and one of his poems,
with that melancholy which pervaded his writa^
and si^ems almost prophetic of hia antiaiely (
is addressed to that sad herb : —
" Come, fuoeral Sower, who lovest to dwell
With the pale corse ia lonely tomb,
And throw across the desert s^oom
A sweet daeaying $mell«
Come, press my hp«, and lie with rot.
Beneath the lonely alder tree,
And we shall sleep a pleasant sloop.
And not a care shall dare intrude)
To break the marble folitiide.
So peaceful and so deep/'
In a little volume entitled Fhwtri end ihfrr
Poetry^ edited by J* Stevenson Bushnan, MP.,
London, 1851, and which, from its pleasant iub-
ject and the poetic and artistic taate it displsw,
would delight your correspondent^ I End mom
poem dedicated to the
** ROSEMAUT.
'* Sacred to sorrow and the dead;
Sighs .ire called up wherever we see
Thy bloitsoms strewed upon the bed
Of Silence, Ros-Marie!
** We look nptm a cold still face.
Yet i^atm, resigned to Heaven's decree;
And, sprinkled o^er the shroud wa tnoa
Thy blossoms, Roa^Marie I
** Thy verv odour to the sense
PreacKes of acenci where sorrovrs be,
An<I of some spirit summoned hence
To judgment, Eos-Marie!
** Better by far the house of woe.
Than thnt of langhter ; and through tb**
Nature would to the thoughtless show
That homily, Ros-Marie ! **
It waa formerly used for bridals aa weD «*
burials, and to these '* two ends " there is an allu-
sion in Herrick*3 ** Helper idea,*' a% well aa in »
poem with which Mr. Kindt is probabl? faajiHtff
^' ^i^^iiMiv^'Q^a^^i^ Blumen/' by A. Schwi1»«i
i
<*8.VlI.ArMi.Ja.7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
349
"W;" ^, denm lioffend btndftt
*I - • Bmut ins Haar,
W .lenii Hoffend windit
Kick tiit^ Tf Auer tun die B«hr'/'
W. E. A. A.
Joyiuoa Street* Stra&gewAys.
EKUUSil DESCENT OF DANIEL O'CONKELL.
(4»* S. iii. 75 ; vii. 242.)
I ftgree with jour corresponilent H. lis to the
BO-ealled *' Irish pure Celt" (if in Ireland or else-
wheiv there be such a thing as '*pare Celtic
blood,*' which I Tery much doubt), that no one
anatt of that race erer attained " real greatness in
literiture, »dence, art, political or military Ufa,**
That A larffe Gothic element exists in the race of
modem Insh i^ past all doubt. Celtic philolo-
ipbts may sny what they please about the "antique
p-!T^*- -' *hQ Celtic language." Their views on
(r are to me as irrational aa the specu-
iau-...^ . . Lord Monboddo on the primitive elou-
nmon of the vertebne in the human tpecies, or
the more recent va^ries of Professor Darwin,
We find even Lord Brougham, great man that
lie w*^ attributing his success in life to the (sup-
posed) Celtic blo^Sd inherited from his mother:
jni;t
I
tttii,
R
th^i eminent Chief Justice Hale entertained
of witchcraft, which shows that even
lias are uot always superior to the pre-
mie lueion —
K hf'TO hfii'nnf^ ft Crltii^ name of whom the lri«h
: iu» as their rcpresenta-
1'% * ill every clement
.„^, :.L„ , -,. .: .1 nn'ptire Irish Celt*
if»><* your correspondent H. Whatever
Life (and I ^ee no reaaon to doubt the
_iven by your correi^pondent), it is at
cjtfrtJiin, that the name 0*L onnell is as Korse
-- r-<» can be, and afforda a «tr^>nif presumption
oi&Goibic element in the bh»d of the ** great
liWtor/' apart from that of the "Kentish and
.Yorkshire coloniata " : —
. *Mi^hT ve,** AAjB FCTgTisoii,* **eveQ go on to aak—
tread ao tender ^round^Mrhether 0*Cofm«Il
an hilf an Irishman ? Ron all seems to have
H MiHirm name among the Norsemen: there are
(hftt Diime mentioned ia the Landndmah6k^ or Ibt
'.naiiJ »«ltltir!i ID Iceland. The name itself appear»
an to h* Scandinavian, and to have a clear etymon in
' N'otte— *oiir. a noble or iUu^triou? p'L'r*on, akioi^;
'^ ,ji_i mH t ;,....; jiQ approprmte title fuongb lor
The name Con nell," continues
uctaiu an uncommon one in the
it mi^ht mo«t naturally be f^up-
r a the Danes or Northmen. The
and * Mc' In Ireland and Soot-
te a croas between the natives and the
ii
imi and ITgdmtnktnd^by
It hfia already been shown in the pages of
^•N. Sl Q.** that the patronymic prefix ** Mac *' is
not Celtic, but Gothic. Thomson/ speaking of
the settle jient of the Scots in Ireland, whom he
holds to be of the same Gothic origin with the
Ficts^ says that *' much of their language pervadail
the Irish or Erse, where the very terms of famDyl
deacenty auch as *Mac' and '0/ are apparentlW
Gothic'' Another writer of credit,! io regard Ut^
Ireland^ informs us on the authority of Tacitus^ and
"on every evidence, historical or traditional," of
"the introduction at some very remote perio*
either by conquest or colonisation, of a diatin
race from its original inhabitants"; in proof
which he mentions the peaaaatry of the eaaten
and midland districts, who exhibit the " blue eyes '
and Hiixeu hair peculiar to the German tribes/'
In fact, the doctrine of Celticism seems to me a ^
»pecie^'* of popular delusion, which in Scotland i
least has been kept alive through the gratuitou
assumptions and unsatisfactory conjectures of sud
writers as George Chalmers, I>r. Daniel WilsonJ
Dr, John Stuart, and a few othera who folloirl
in their track* Dr, Petrie, of "round tower *•'■
celebrity, was, I suppose, the great Irish apo9tl4
of Celtfcism. That the nomenclatures of Irebuii
and Scotland possess much in common, it would
be idle to deny ; but that that element ia abori^
ginal, and not merely early Gothic, is the questioiij
a till to be proved. BiLBO.
CHAR.ICTES OFCoKSTAXTINE: TKArHALA (4** S.
vii,3CXJ,) — See my Leviure^ tm the Jlistortf of tl^e
Emtern Church, p. IB% third edition. A* T. S.
[Th<? paj»4age referred to runa thus : — ** He (Conatan-
tine) had a contemptuous habit of throwing hack bis
head, which, by bringing out the full proportions of bis
thick neck» procured for him the nickname of Trtichala"
— Ei>.]
Ha^^dkl^s '* Mbsstah '* (4*^ S. vii. 304.)— This
queatioa is one of curiou-? simplicity. The audi-
ence stand up during the "Hallelmah Cborua"
because of the peculiar solemnity of tne words. I
have known it done during the preceding chorus,
*'For unto us a Child is- bom/' It is like the
custom in moat churches of standing (or kneeling)
when the Lord's Prayer occurs Id the Leason*
LTTTKLTOIf.
Hagler, Stourbridge.
At the iirst performance of the "Messiah** in
Westtninater Abbey, such was the effect of the
rendering of the words — ** For the Lord God Om-
nipotent reigneth," that the king (George IL),
who wa«» present, started to his feet, and remained
standing till the conclusion of that portion of the
oratorio. His example was instantly followed by
• Etymomor
aoD, M Ji J. is*i
taU |db»!LtW$aar
S50
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[4»»i8,VIL Ar«t«i'a
the entire coopregaiion: lience, I believe , it hm
been custouijiry for audieocea to atand during- the
singittg of the " Ilallcltijah Chorna " ever aioce.
J. D. L.
Two Passages in " Ti^toN of Athehs '^ (4"* S.
i. 43, 164, 259, 355, 445.)— Not being a constant
der of ** N. & Q/' I liaTe only to-daj seen the
reply of A, II. to itiy sugg^estion : *'you want mttck
of aie/' Without coumu^utiiig oii ills own ex-
planation, and still leaa on tbo language which
n© baa thought tit to employ, I only beg leave to
lay beft>re y out readers the following pasdo^ from
tbo well-known ballad of "Geraiit us'' in Percy's
ReUquti$ : —
*' His heart Joth thiiike on manv a wile,
Ilowr to deceive th© p-u-ore;
Hii mouth la almost M of w«i Ac,
Yet still he gnpe^i for more/'
Nobody. I think, will deny that muck here meana
tfold. Now, gold it WA8, not meat, which the ban-
ditti wanted I'roui Timou, who had dug up a large
quantity of itp but after hiis expenence contemns
it as the merest and most abominable trash. Com-
pare Othelio III. 3: " Who 8te«l3 my pursie steals
traah." The repetition of much in the two suc-
ceeding lineflp far from contirmin^ the reading i»f
the folio, is in itself rather auspicious and pro-
bably owing to the carelessness of the canipnMtor*
BrvBden.
The Origin of Abcilblshop Stafford (4*'* S.
vii. 'Ml)—
"John Stafford was Archbisbop of Canterbury' and
(TliancfUor of England durio;; Sitme of the most trembled
years of tlie reign of Henry VL"
Tbia note gives me some hope I may be on the
w?ent of a Stafford, whose large signature '* Stak-
t PORl>^' (I shall give it more oorrectly when once
I get to Paris, if ever we can pet there^ and
recover our ^oods and chattels) is on & large
document of the reign of Henry VL headod with
the name of the Duke of Bedford (not John the
Regent in France, but his brother and successor
as governor of Normandy*) Why it is signed
Staflbrd I have never been able to make out,
P. A, L.
Remarkable Clock (4^^ S. tH, 322,) — The
clock referred to is being exhibited at the Crystal
Palace at Sydenham, where all particulars may
be leonied respecting it. It is still for sale,
J. II. J. Oakley.
The Prior}', Croytlon,
ETyMOLOGt OF " Ward " as a Personal Name
(4*** S. vii- 2tj6.)-— Mr, Nichols has answered his
own question. Ward is guard, and both have
much the same aignitication as herd, t. e. keeper ;
c£ hoArd = a treasure; something guarded with
CAre. Thus the gate-kijeper is tbe gate-wwA, ^i
^^ warden Wards^ in Chancery, \m^j X\ift ^o&<
session of property; mich persons would bate
hereditary or tarntorial designatious ; m wird,
living in a private family, say with his Much.
would have a name otherwise tbaA in his legil
capacity of ** a ward.*' Supposing a minor, or
person under the care of u guardian, to become
east away, so that he is separated from his pro-
perty and his guardian, and has to *• shift* f"r
nimself, I think his designation would besji
from his adopted employment, and that he ^ ..
lose the name of " wapJ" when the term hai 1 ^^
its significancy as regards hiuv^elf, and nev. r Dt_
able to transmit it to bis posterity. A.
J, G. N, (for whose knowltsdge and ncqi
ments, if I guess him rightly, I have ntuch re*]
says, "Mr. Lower derives' the name t>r T/ ,
from ^ Fr. leyat'de^ the guard, keeper, nr
But was le garde ever a French wonl a ^ ^
peraon P Gardt; is in French a feminine mm i
its meaning is the ?«me «s our guard. (Th
the French surname De la Garde,) The ;
who guards is a gardim, our guardian or u.
I entertain a doubt, therefore, whether a VV
was really an ofticer or a person employed
guarding. Did the writer recollect the cu^
La scntitidlef W. (1.)
" As Cyril and Nathvx '» {V^ S. m .15L>
vinother version —
** ^A Cyril »ntl Kathan wt-re pacing by «^i«»n\
Bays Cyril to NHtliont * We're both uf uft di'jui*.
And both of wa btjihops in>iy lie,*
Says Nttlhan to Cyril, 'I oerlainly shall
Stay her«, to Icx>k after my little canal,
And voa oisv look afUr the see."
.v.r.s.|
ECSTATICS : THE ** E8TATICA. " OF CxLUii
(4»*' a \u 47S; vii. 21, 123, 193.)— The wri
of the Third Series of Watertoa^s Es$ag» on SdM
JIiMiori/ h m Frawr*8 Mtif/azi/ie^ Dec. \^^7 (
18*58), and is the tirst article in the numWr.
memorandum is to this effect, and I have verid
the correctness of it, William BiO*!
Birmitigham,
Bears* Ears (4»*' S. vii. 256.) — The
was called bears* ears in Suffolk in IK^)^ iiGd,|
anything 1 know to tbe contrary, is called i
Or as pronounced ftrnziers^ is srill the ;
name of rritmda auricula in this district snd U
South Lancashire generally. I believe, hoirefi
that the plant is nut known by that name in No
Lancashire, ' James Peakms- j
Milnrow, n^Jir Rochdale.
It is asked if this name for the auricula I
long been disueed. I reply that it bas never 1
disut^ed. It is tbe common, name of the aaricntkl
in the Eastern Counties; and a clevir
^Mti^iiLer assures me that be was familiar
\ \Xv^ ?jwsv^ Ti%ssv^ 'vQ.^iiA '^w^lb. in Scotknd*
4* & VIL Ai-BIL 22, Tl.]
NOTES AND QUEBLBS.
351
flower, Loudon shyn, was cultivated by Gerard in
1597» under the name of ** bears' ears," or raoun-
• -* "slips. The French call it b? a similar
j7/e» d'mirHf and so do the Italians^ Orcf-
y .i\. ,,.., Of course, the name was given to
the plant from the resemblance of its leaves to the
^yr^ of a bear ; but it is to be regretted that m
i\ name sliould have so fixed itself upon this
hiiiiiutiful species of primrose, that in many
places it Is known by no other. F. C. II.
Skbuabble (3'* S. ii, 32(?; 4^'^ S. i. 408.) —
The attempt to derive English words from the
On&ek so very seldom succeeds that I hesitate
muoh before sending' a mo.st doubtful origin of the
above word ; but the folio wiop sentence of Pausa-
oiaa Civ. 14, 1 )^ referring Uy the close of the tirst
Meifisenian war^ 6 Sc Ox^<*i ^ tfoxhs nariL t^t warpiSas
fjtao-roi ras dtpxafsr iffKtMftffijfFay^ pictures a ske-
daddle po well that I wonder whether the word
can ptis^ibly come from trKM^wf^,
JOEN DOTN GaRDSEB.
Chttltcris.
hi^aop Fuller (4'" S. vii. 257.) — William
Fuller, Hishop of I.iiuenck nud Lincoln^ w^is the
son of Thorans Fulit^r nf London, m ere h tint. I
make this ttutement on the authority of the Ful-
ler Pedijfiee, communicated by James Franklin
FiiIUt, Esq., to Muailanea Geneaht/ica et Ile-
ra!ni-a^ vol. i* p- 215. Chaklbs 8otheran.
^t. Meadow Street, Myss-suks near Mtttichcster.
T.nRTJ Ryrox's '*ENOLi?*Et Bakds,"etc. (4**» S.
vmi; vii. 23, 100, ll»r.)— ''Jill '^ will find the
' 0 Gemini/' &c, (as given by ra© in a
t rmtr commimi cation) in an 8vo edition of Byron
•edited by Quit and printed at Paris. Not having
tb* volume at hand I lannot state whether the
i»ee occur in the memoir or amnngst the poems.
^ ■ ' >'ver, certain that tbey were beaded
and were among&t some similar
- !>.. un Wordsworth's Jiliitfi J)(^^ the ** curst
old woman," &c, &c* The very personal and ob-
RoiLi.t -.o^tam on the Prince Regent was in the
-% which was a scraping together of
-^.„p iiypon had written or was supposed to
^ The ** O Gemini ! '* reminds me that
i peaaantA frequently swear by the
5 {(iemthi)^ "who, 1 presume, are the
** Great twin brethren "
Kooulm and Kemus. Can our vulgar exclama-
^ have A similar origin?
Jaates IIenry Dixon,
^ ^ ^iT^ OR Christmas Piece (4^^ S. vi.
• '», 201.) — Alo.^t of your readers have
-. . '.he great painter Joseph Wright of
J%bj, and eome have doubtless seen his works.
"•^ TCfo* for a short time at Kepton School, about
■IT 1745. It is said, when there, he saw a
.m:>tlBM aiBOIl'' the PKqwrty of Ojl^^^lils
Bcboolfellowa, and was bo struck with it that be
determined to try to draw. This would corro-
borate F. C. H/s statement of a picture of some
kind forming a pi^riion of the Chriistmaa piece,
whilst we may also suppoM the central portion
of the sheet tilled with specimens of writing j
hence called a **i?rripsit." The anecdote of the
origin of the formation of Wright's taste for paint-
ing is to be found in a memoir of him in theHeii'
quart/, iv. 177. JOHK PlCKFOED, MA*
Boltou Percy, near Tad caster.
IlfiEALDIC OR HeKALDBIC (4**' S. VI. 458 ; vii.
273.)— ^Instead of Copkdotic in the county of
Cheater read Cape^honte, once the property of
the old family of Ward, and now of Arthur Henry
Davenport, Esq. .Toaif Pickford^ MA.
Bolton iVrcy, near Tmdcaater.
Stubt*8 Ebjtion op the Prater Book (4^'* S.
vii. 283.) — I have seen n copy of this book in the
library of the Fitzwilliam Museum, Cambridge;
but not being a resident in that town, I cannot
say whether the university or any of the college
libraries may also possess a copy or not.
^SluuEL Sajtdabs.
2a, Gloucester Plaee, Hyde Pfltk.
MEAKiTfo OF '' Fog '' (4»^ S. vii. 9G, 216.)—
Upon reading and considering the remarks of your
correspond en tfl, James Pearson^ J. Ck. II., D,
Gedbes, T. a., and Mb. E. Marshall on thia
word, they appear to me decidedly to lead to the
etymology and meaning of another, which is of
pretty constant use in a certain district, though,
as far as I am awarCj it has not yet got into the
dictionaries. I mean the "word/offfffr.
There was some time since, and without doubt
continues still to be, hardly a farm in the western
part/i of Berks, and along the adjoining part^ of
Wilts upon the river Kennelt, which does not
number amongst its labourers a fogger ; and his
duties are understood to be, in addition to his
acting as the odd man of the family, to look after*]
and take care of the cattle in the farm -yard, and
supply them with what is necessary— hay, if
needed, cavings and other things from the barn ;
the latter before the flail, as now, alau! waa silent, \
To explain his connection with the fog, or coaraaJ
grass, I am supposing that before parishes wemi
generally enclosed, and the whole common field I
thrown open after harvest, being then cultivated ]
in small long etrins, so the feed which gre^*]
upon the bank& dividing? them valuable, the fogger
waa the man to aeo that his master's cattle were
safe and had their share, and waa so called for thia
reason. There was also a parish officer called a
hayward, and whether we derive this name from
heord^mird or hate-ward^ his duties must still
have been to look after the fences, see that no one
overstocked, and keep the beasts from stra^iu^
into other paridhes.
NOTES AND QUERlEa
[4t* S. VLL ArwL 2U*7L^
If jou o^k, as 3tr&Dgi?rs are At>t to do, what b the
etymology and meaoiDg of fopfjer^ the answer
genarally u that it is a corruption oipoddercr. This
la hardly satiafactorjr. Surely the simpler and
natural explanation is, that it ib a regular noun
descriptive of the office of the man who fouod
fog for the cattle, as there seems little doubt that
in early times he did. W, (1.)
P.S, Will your correapondent T« A. forgive me
for eaying that the latter grass is called latiernuUh,
not l^ermouth '/
G5AT8 d'^ S. vii. 25a>-A few yeara ago I
lived in the Marshes of East Kent^ and was com-
pelled to adopt ft plan similar to that described by
VLr. Piooot to keep the gnats from biting me
during the nights At times the bite (I b^Uere I
Biu right in calling it by this term) ia very poi-
Bonoufi. One evening I observed a gnat between
the knuckles of the third and fourth fingers of
my right hand, and killed it. The next day I
observed my hand was swollen a little. Inflam-
mation rapidly set in, extending up the arm, and
nothing but a severe cauterising just below the
elbow prevented it going above that joint, when
probably erysipelas would have followed* As it
was, I carried my arm in a aling for about a week.
My doctor had a similar case under his care at
the aame time; al&o arising from the bite of a
gnat J, M. C.
"Tbt£ World mayED upside dowj^/* etc,
(4*^ S. vii. 2/59.)— In one of the copies of Dug-
dale*s Wmnvkh&hirc at the British Museum,
amongst other MS. additions ia a represeatatiou
of an ancient seal of the Umberslade Archers, on
which the same idea of ^* the haie^s vengeance ' '
is made use of as a pun. A hare on its hind legs
is car^iDg olf a dead dog, dangling at the end of
a stick over its shoulder; and on the piece of
parchment which unites the seal to the docu-
ment (grant of fn* imrrtn f) are written the
letters chtr ^^ lutre-cker J Sp.
LoBD Brottoham aitd Voltaire (4^^* S. vii.
i77.) — Mil Pictok says —
*• Tht' Saturflay Meffiettf was the first to rail aUetitlon
to the tale * RIemnon ; or Human Vfudom^' p. fS of the
mc'Tnuirii, given by Lord Broughaia as a «pe(rufiea of hia
«;<rl>' composition, which i^ really a iranslation from
V oh aire.*'
Permit me to say that the Inwmess Courier
pointed out the error or mitiatatement on the-
Thurstlay morning previoua to the publication of
the Sntiirdut/ Jhcciac, having thus the priority bv
tyro or three "days. Though a amall matter, 1
truBt you will insert this, as showing attention at
least on the pait of the provincial pre^s. The
blunder about the Nightingale monument was
pointed out at the same time. C.
Sim Riceard (not Robert) Botl^ (i*** 8. to.
^^82.) — J hasten to iufovm your conef^tmdfeul'P
that I gave the statement of Sir )
apparently incredibly rapid ioiirri' .
London, contained in my Lives of 't/n: ^
cellars of Ireland ^ upon tfie authority of S
Boyle liimself. The passage from hia Tna
brancer, containing this «tatement, is quo
Lodgers Pceragv of Ireland, edited by A:
(i. 155) y ako, under the head of *^ 6oyle*s 1
Journey to London/' in Gibson's Hi4t4»y of
ii. m J. R. 0TLA3f *fl4
18, Summer Ilill, Dublin.
John Fell, Bishop of Oxford (4*^ S, vii. 288^)
For once the Editor of ** X. & QS is in cnw.
It was not Dean Samuel Fell, but his son Dew
John Fell, to whom Tom Brown presented tl»e
witty rendering of Martial's distich. Samuel Fell
died* Feb. 1, 1648-0. Brown was born (accordjlir
to the Petmy OjdojHtiHa Supplement) in 1(W£
John Fell was promoted to tae d*=»anerv in IW^
which, from 1675 to his death in lG8r», lie heldi
eommcndam with the bishopric of Oxford,
There are several versions of the traur-btioa
the epigram. The one given in Tom Brnwn'
JForksy edited by Dr. Drake, 17(iO (iv, 100)i "'
slightly from the version in ** N. & Q," It
thua:~
" I do not love ihf e. Dr. Fell,
But whv 1 cannot tell ;
Bat thit 1 know fall well.
I do not love the<s Dr. Fell."
KT,U
Smoxuto jLisBQkZ (4*** S. ?i. 384, 48-^ ; vii. 19
203») — The annoyance from gmokera is not t
for the first time felt. Some forty yeata ^
happened to be at Castellamare, on the
Naples, when a diplomatic squal'b:*' ;ir v*-:-
subject with the court of Xaples,
the king's bn.>ther, bad a palace t
at the gate^ when Mr. Erskine, our t
Captain Luahington, son of Sir Ilenry^ i
at that time our consul-general, hafipeDMl
past the palace quietly smoking their r "~
mg no knowledge that they were tr . ^
the law of court etiquette. Tbe aentinel ]
upon them, and in spite of their r«n
guard carried them otf, and they wer*
durance vile for the night. Mr. Hill, our J
interfered, and I believe that an official hf
was made for the contreUtiytt*
Jesfit MSS. iP^ S. V. 580. )~W. T, wifl ^
the MSS. at Stonyhurst College, St P
Bliickburn, Lancashire. 1
Fimlico.
Manx Bishops (4^ S. vii. 184, 29S.>- In 1
list of Manx bishops given at the last pefereoe^
anpears Machutus, with the approiimative ift^
or 500. A saint of this name appean to ht^
been highlv venerated in the aouth-w«sttfS fto^
ol ^^QlCLQXia., «xA c:;^QaIlY in the ancient fBi^*
\
4i*S.VIL Apbil 22, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
a53
palilT of Gallowaj* SalDt Malot tbe Latin form
d whom name is Macloviua and Miichutus, and
who, under the latter desi^'nation, find* a place in
thp fftliTuIrjr of the Eng-Iish chiurch on the 16th of
N 13 giiid to have been a native of Moo-
m . nftt^rwards bishop of the city of Aleth
in Brittanv^ now known as the town of St. Ma-
loee, and tu have died in the year 627. The Maox
biahop — if any one of thk natne ever did exist —
mmt be a diifereot person, and it certaiuly geems
more pn>babk that the aaint who was worshipped
in ^otlatid ahould be a biBhop of Man than a
bishop of BrittaDV. Can any of your corregpon-
dents throw any fight on the subject?
£D<iyA.B MacC'ULloch.
Goeraiey.
G&EAT Man alluded to by Arkold m a
SERMON (4"* 8. vii. 2Uli)— The reference ought to
have been to vol. iv, p. 404 (not v. ) of Dr. Ar-
nold^a Sermt/m, T«st front Ezekiel xx. 40.
J. R. B,
Sib William Staj^hope, 1040-1680 (4*^ S. vii.
ti5».)— Probably Sir WiUiam Stanhope of linby,
CO, J?ottitigham» ion of William Htanhope of
linby. who, being gentleman usher and daily
waiter to Queen Catherine, was knighted at
Kliit^hall July 26, 1680; and dyin;? without
ne, left his e^UU At Linby tn thi» Eftrl of Har-
igton/ (SeQ Brydges' CoUifu^^ i\l 42 i.)
Ev. Ph. Shirley.
CRBms (4^»» S. vii. 257.)— The following notes
Bar be of use to Y. S. M. Joseph Edniundfjon
ill fas Mrraidry {2 vob. folio, London, 1780) «ay8
(i. m) :-
"" '■ -- "•• - n -r^ '-:'»' .. -. .^,g tHjaring two crests
iH io bo cohdemnt'd*
, whenever any man
i i^ another family, he
"lome by his own» cxL-ept
u. ^ ^...,^.1, VI kjevice, Thi» Germans in-
^ been accustomed to bear, in a row over
if ami^f the crests of All the faiiiiUes
y quarter ; but in this thn' are not fol*
fther nation, and in truth /the absurdity
, .J- .,,.1. a practice b reiiifirkublv *trik-
rt the Dtjqio«t' for which cretto
Heraldic writers uujver«aI1y
t a wuiu.m tan not bear a cre?t.'*
]*i contirmed in Burke'B Omerdl Armory, ,
^U 1IH44, p. xii. :—
r*TlJ« A^* or cft^ixance (dofived from tbe Latin word
**"" ' " "^ ) origiuatcd in tbe thirte«ath century,
ui*h the combatant* in the battle or
\A reason, no crest is allowed to a
^. J. E. Cussanfl^ in his Handbook of Straldry
|18oD), holds the same opinion as that e:ipi^Esed
* Sir WiiltAtn ^ttahopc married Catherine, dati|;httj'
^ Jiich4r«t Ltxl B>Ti>r, accoiding io Etlmtmtfion'a
B,
frtmofit.
'rSome writars have aiiacrted that if a m&n ehoultl
marry an helrt's^. hv. and hh deiicendantii are permitted
to bear her paternal crest aa well as arms ; bat this cau
«earc«1y be, for a )ady is not entitled to a crest, and she
surely cannot C(>urer oc another that to which ahe haa do
rij^h t' herself ."—Pi^Ec 17*i.
HBNBT W, HXNrBET.
Markhatn IIoa»e, Brighton.
thAj
L. voM" Beethovejt (4**" S. Yii. 257.) — In
Tm/}cnat Didumary of Zlmarml Biography^ pub
liihed by ys\ Mackenzie of I*atemo8ter Row, &c.,
Mr. G. A. Macfarren states in hia valuable contri*
bution about this celebrated mudcian (i. 462) : ^
'^ A groundleM rutnoar for some time prevailed that he
was the natural son of tbe King of Prosaia ; nr-" ^* *^"Tt-
diderable pdnta, he proved bimielf to be the ' >u
of Jobann Beethoven, a tenor ainger in the <1
electoral prince in bis native town, in which tstabliab-
ment his ^;:mndfather. after whom be vraa named, and
who was aUo a compcner, &ang bass.'*
The irregularities in the private life of Frederick
William IL were so notorious that public opinion
credited every wicked story told of nim.
Charles Natloe.
JoHjr Dybr (4«* S, v\\. 232.)— Whatever John-
son mny say to the contrary, Dyer is regarded i
a fine poet "ty many writers who are better judge
of poetry than he who was such an enthusiastic
admirer'nf Hoolee Taim. Wordeworth liiaid that
liyer waa *' too much neglected," I know ** The
Fleece " w^jU. It is a genuine Engliah poem, re*
dolent of —
''Flora and the conixtry graen."*
And then what noble ptietry do we find in the
*' Buina of Eomep*' and in that univerBal favourite
** Grongar Hill *■ — a poem only equalled by Shel-
ley's ** Lined written on the Euganian HilH" ite
reflex. Have we any modern edition of DyerP
Stbphbit Jacxbon.
[There are two modem editions of John Dyer'a Potmm^
Wiihnt>tfN in Routletl^^e'ii 5r«7iWi FotU, 1853, and GH- i
finan*3. 1859 J
Cornish SpoEJiN ;x DEvoNiJHiRE (4*** 8. vii.
11, 120,)— H. C. A, P. will find the statement he
refers to, and, I presume, the authority for the
statement, in Polwbele's Uidorical View of Dtvon'^
shire. I have ouly the fixst volume at hand, so
can only quote from the contents. In vol. iii.
chap. 4, " The Norman-Saxon Period from WU-
liam the Conqueror to Edward the First/* in
section ix* he gives —
*' ^JarraanB attempting to substitute Korraan-Frcnch
f". !M-Saxon— the En^li.*h attached to the Saxon
1 1 he Comti-Britigh in Devon and Cornwall, th«
vu.K,w t^'iji^de — spoken altfo by the hi^'htr ranks of people
in Cornwall, and a great part' of Devonshire."
Again, in vol. iv., "The Saxo-Lanca«trijm*
YorMah Period/' in section ix. he aaya : —
"The French language very ^:ian«ti2\7 ^w^v«iiL\Ti'?M-
land— the Anglo-^Tton i^iW \W N'«ttvft<:s&3Kt Vsaie^*— ^v^
354
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4**'S.V1K AraiLn^TL
r4ti.Bli almost lost in Exeter— retaiUfKi in a great
pat V^ the Southams;'
JOBN BaKXISTEB*
St. Diiy, CorowalL
P.S. 1 ftm afraid my Ohfsnn/ of Coniuh Names
just completed will not be t*oar*ider<?d coiicliiflive
evidence in the way Mk. Piggot (p, 120) would
suggest I would also correct an error in his
statement for which I Am responsible. The num-
ber ofComiah namwa I have collected be^inning^
with Ro9 should he 200, oot 400.
Denarius of Drfscs, Skx. (Senior) (4^"* S.
vii,9o, 148,223.) — ^The coin inouired after is not of
Drusuft, but of Nero^ described by Cohen, No. 55,
and valued by him at 20 francs/ The lep^eod on
the reverse written in full is '^ sacerdos coopta-
TUS IN " OMNI CON LEG 10 SUPRA 5UKERUM EX
SBUATUS CONSULTO. Fof the meaning of the
legend, see Eckhel, DorU Num. vi. 20L
John Evans.
Kasb Mills, Hemel llemp^ted.
PasLET or Paslewk (4^^ 8. vii. 210.)— Mr.
Eelsby aaya " the last abbot of Wbitley was a
Fnalewe." la not this a misprint for Whuliey,
of which John Pcislewe wa.-? the twenty-fifth and
last abbot ? IIrrm'kntbuds.
"FlR"?T IsfPREaSTONS; OR, A DaY IN IkDIA "
fl*** S. vii. 2(i6.>^The author of thi^ book was
Gumey Turner, Esq,, aurgeon in the Beny:al army,
and son of Daw*>n Turner, Eaq,, of Great Yar-
mouth, lie died in India in 1848. F. IL H*
Judicial Oath^ (4^" S. vii. 20i>.) —What does
G. mean by this query ? I believe *' the claas who
object to taking ontbs in cf>urt?i of justice " object
just as much to *' call any man their father upon
earth." Our Blessed Lord^s command has no re-
ference to the natural epithet given by a child to
its parent. I thought this was a truism.
llERMEIfrKUUE.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
t»rv of the Kint/tiftm t>f Kerr^, Bff M. F. Ctisark,
lor of the ifiujitmted Hintnrtf of hektnd^ At*,
ngman.)
If it ia a pond sij^i t<*t IreUnd that one of her son*
sbould de%'ot« hiii)!$4>1f to the pjif* para! ion yf a county his-
tory, it is a no lefts fuvourable »i^ii tliat the author should
not only be able to exhibit such a good \M ol' Sub-
scribers as graces his volume, but to ackTinvrIed|;fo the
ready ajaLstanoe which be ha* received frtun a\\ who liave
made Kcrn^ — ita history, ita ueoloi^v, its natural ro-
ftourcos^-the subjvct of tJieir inquirtc^. The Men of
Kernr will not think the worse of Mr, Cuaack** book for
hia anar|» critieism on Mn Froude; and he certuinly de-
aerves credit Ibr originality in including in thu volume
• Till* \& Cohen^a version. Perhaps it would fa* more
correct to BMy t2t oksu. oohiJ^GLA,
(from which pedij^reea of the coooty famillea have b«ea I
advt5»etI1y omitted) a number of blank pages in whkb
the Bub^c-rtber!* may insert such famOjr records oc pedi-
greca as they may desire to presem*.
The Camden Mucetiany. Votrnm the Sixth, (Ptiotd
for the Camdcii Society.)
The volutuo« uf The Mitcellamy^ occasiooaUy patfdnit
by the Camden S<irietY, have always been among tiio c
which found nuwt favour with the members ; and Ckni^'li
thid («i,^tb vulurnL', c<»utaininf; as It does only three tept
rate articIeA, exhibits loss variety than usual, a frlance it
the nature uf the !«everal papers will show that it di»
Bot lack the interest ot its predeoeasors, and we donbt a<il
it will be equallv acon^fahle. The first of these, ♦♦Tht
Life of Mr, Wilfiam WliUtinfyham, Dean of Durliamt'
a weil-ktjown Puritan, haa l>een very carefully «»lit*d hr
Mrs. Anne Everett Green from the orif;inal in AnUiorw
Wood's collection in the Bwlleian, and iUu^ratcd bv i
number of original documents in the Record OIBcct, if ah
illuatnition of the life of an accomplished Puritan ilhitf.
The next article, " The Earl of Brislors Defence ai hif
Ne^xHations in Spain," valuable as it is in itself fur ihe
light It throws tifjon Bristol's conduct, and the srcfrt
history of the iie^ocistions in which he was enL^ed. u
made 'still more valuable and interestinif by M^.(k^
diner's admirable introduction. The "Journal of 81'
Francis Walsingham from Dec. 1570 to April i5HS.^ ff«B
the original in the posscs;?i(m of Lieut.-Colonel Car»«.
may aomewhat disappoint the reader from its brevity «iiil
tersene-w; but then: can bo no doubt that, brief Bitl>i
entries are, thev are of a nature to be of such a»ii*»BCi
to students of felizabethan history as to justify the CuuH-
cil of the Camden Society in committing' them to the
press, under the editorship of Mr. C. T. Martin, wholw
executed bis work very carefully, and mafle it avaHabU
to dl who desire t4) uac it by a capital index.
Books atiCKiVKD. — Xemophon, By Sir
Grant, Bart,* LUD., Principal of the Univcr
buTfrh. (Blackwood.) This new volume oi * t.v .,
cient Classics for Enf;li:ih Readers," with its admirtWt
introductory sketch by Principal Grant, is well cJilcTjIitf^
to maintaiii the character of this useful seri* -
Ihirward, By Sir Walter Scott, Bart. (A. c^
This is the sixteenth volume of the **renteii«. . .
of the Waverley Novels,** QucHtin Dnrward wb^ «vrr,
mora wamily received on the Cootinent, nt it* f r* s!-
pearance, than in England, from the irreatf r
of the readers there with the scenes and hi-
sioas contained in it.— 77ie Proloyue to Cha^
ierbury 7U/cj» with ExpUttuttorv NoU§ amd Gl^m
a Life ofih^. Poet, tW the tfwe of Oyltt^t3 and i
Edited by Waller M'Leod. F.U d.S,, .^
Tbia little book, calculatwl as it is to i
infj of Chaucer, and so popularise the 1 . i^i
Poetrj', deserves the y:ood word of all Chaucer's ada
We learn from the Guardian that the Ffitti>ry of Kn
for which largp collections were made by the Ut« Rev. r
Streatfeild and our late value<l friend and freqtiMta
tributor to ^ N. & Q,," the Rev. Lambert B. Larking, nciti
of whom lived to see their work in the printer's hand*J
now to be broii>;ht out under the auapiee.f of tbr V *
Archieolopcal Society, by Mr. Godfrey
a f^entlcman in evi-ry way qualified i
solicits information especially from landi>^ ..v* .^ -»-d<S
men of the r<>unty» regarding not only hislorlcil i
gen ealopical fact ^,' but even local phrases, proviiH <
superstitions. His address is "The Preolacta, Crti*^*
bury-** We wish hlia and his coadjaton aU fttOMii
Dabtts:.— Tlie very valuable library of Haroa Symowr
Kirkup» of Florence, has been consigned to LoadoB wf
, AmnSi,*?!.]
NOTES AND QUERIEa
355
i during the prwent reason. The coJlec-
' irly rich in Dante liferattirt, nn<\ com-
|S& of the " OiviDi (.loitinietlia " of great
j^llA HuiDBR.'* — The Royal Trinih Academy
'^ iibliflhed a fac-aimile of 'thiA great collBction
f^da of the tenth and eleTeiilb centoriei.
i>H. — A nniqne marDBcript of lht« prose ro-
I liecn Itktciy wen, in a handsome vnllum
about 1440 a>d. The mme volumi^ containj;,
Icr thioj^R, a poetical version, in twrlvp lin«
' many of the bookj of the Old Teffiament aitd
fpba/and ia probably tran^ated frum Petnis
Mr SociKTT.— The early Heralds* Visit ation
and part of the YiHitatioii of Notlitigban^ ar«
C»KRB. — The Director of the Botnnical Gnrdenn
la left for Morocco, with a view to I'ollecting
of that country.
IitsTiTrTiosf, Albemaelr Sthket. — The
lita for the Friday evenlDg leclurea have been
il the following are amtouDf^ a» lecturers :
rliie. Prof. Odlin^, Mr. Ralston (Cambridge),
llcj% Col. Jervoia, Sir J* Lubbock, Frof. T.
ind Prof, TyndalL
&i?AM.— It is reported that an inhabitant of
im haa given the munidceat sum of BfOOO/. aa
tti m fund for investment for the pu^^llaae of
(be exhibited there*
I IStTBBNATTONAL EXHIBITION OF !87l. — We
1 that at ihe State O pinning on the 1st of M&}\
Municipal Authority of each City iind Town
(Ited Kingdom, tbe Cbaimien of Ohurob'^rB of
^ the Masters of City (Jompaniei^, the Council of
jr of Arts, the (Jouncil of the Koyal Horticul-
fty, the <>fficial Slatt; the Reporters for ihc
I, and members of Com mitt eiiH» will be invited
U-t in the Ceremony, and to inspect the Fine
ldu»trial Gallerieg ; after which the Exhibition
, Art will take place tn the Koyal •\lbert Hall,
general direction of Sir ]!l(f ichni-1 Coata, when
Iformcd a Chorale representing^ Italian lilujjii^
pud conducted by Chevalier Ptneuti ; a Pimlm
Ig French Muaic, composed and conducted by
d; an Overture representing German Mu'^ic-^
hy Dr. F. Hilltjr; a Cantata representing
^composed and conducted by Mr. Arthur
i'*God Save the Queen" by the Chorus
nx and all other lovers of Old Popular
fht elad tjn learn that a Series of *" LinpubliMhed
1 Ballad Airs, arranged and harmoni^d for the
^ &c., from Copies procured in the Counties of
BanfTi and Moray : to be e<lited, with Words
f and I UiMt rati re' Notes, by W. Christie, A.M.,
fcray," is in preparation. ' '
i Macmillax St Co. announce the second vo-
kofenor Maaaon's " Life of Milton, narrated in
k with the Political, Kcclei^iastical, aod Literary'
this Time"; *' A Sketch of the Life of Charles
t Tragedian, with Scraps from his Son'H Jour-
^Han Cbarlea Young, Hector of Ilmington " ;
IgaJey'a "At Last, or a Chriatmaa in ihe West
Kh nnmerous Illustrations"; and a ** Life of
|*bley Cooper, Fir*t Earl of Shafteiburj, 1621-
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PtmCHASK,
ParticDlm of PrJoet ae., at tlte It^tlowing txaoka to be tent direct to
(he trraUonen bur whom they tun required, whoce nunn and ■dd/<Mti
K« ipven tat that purpoaet —
BaiviAiuiTM LaoDTTxnr.
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EntrfUh MuDiiMTlp^tf.
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W. H. J. Wkali, Catalog UK ttu Hvais 01 L^AoADiyia oa
Bautian. Ndtlcvji «t de«crii£»tiotis «veo nwinofFtinincs, etc Broere,
ImSI. Adjt other worlu by the iaiiK! author <.
Wanted by Mr. !»'. Manh, 7, Red Li<m Stiuan.
fiQiiitt tn Ciirrcfif|JOti^fnli(,
Wt art compelled to postpone vntil nest tfe<?Jt A Word
for Moore, Gains borough's '* Blue Boy/* ui«/*crera^ oMer
pitpera of iniertfst.
W» H. — *''Drawin^TOom"' wati ori^naUjf fktwithdrttwinsi*
room, a r&ttm to which the family tPithdrtw from tftegGteral
dining or commnn rwim.
M. D^^Parslev Picrl, or Parsley Break-stone, I'j, ac
cording to Mr. Prior i Popular Names of British Plants,
Akhemdia arvensis^
J. A, J. — Dcciined with thankf,
Sonon fiHU Man, — W. Spknek will find tfie origin cf
tft€ Mee of Stidor and Man in our 2°** ft. iii. 12^, and tht
arms of the hiihopi^ »ame ff rior v. 314,
BttApFuitiUKNSis.— Uru/eyrooin Httrail^ aieafii bridi^g
want frum A.H* Bryd, bride^ and Gum, man,
Thk Boyal Assejit.^ — Wehavt receined several cem-
municatityn* u'ith rrferrncv tn a titlif paragraph on the sub-
ject of tht Irnh Church Bill being ** nuit and vrtid," because
the l/ithops were not present when the Royal ai*ttU wq»
git*en to it. If tfw Advfrti:^t^, Daily Ntw», and 8tAnd&rd
didlt a* iM aattried, print •U'.-A a paragrapli (ire »ay if ad-
vi*edly)f it would tie Curiau* to /earn how tht writer prtt-
cured itt imertioH,
T. B. — In the German farcetj Pickdherring is the i
iff the Droll or Merry Andrew,
AuHiKR.— J, H. L/a <irftc/« appeand in "N. & Q." oj
Jan. 15, 1870*
H. M. fit referred to the late Sir G» C LetttM'M udmirahle
Essay on the Itoniauce Langungt*s.
lo^*>RAMUa. — On the firtt me of tdotimg-paper eon§uti
I* N. & t^-" l*^ S. viii. 1«5» and 3^** S. iv. 4i»7.
J, B. C. — For the rustic belief that pig$ can tee tht
If iiiti, it^ ** N. & Q." 1** S. viil. 1(H\
BKtiTlE, — H'e doubt whether the engravfnys nf '* The
Dance tfDeatftf'' in The Portfolio, voK iii* and iv. are
from the graver of the Bewickt^oM they have no resemblance
to thoge by these artists which tllu»trate the Danco of
Death, published in 178U. The bliKks of the latter work
were shortly afttrwardM destroyetl bu jire in Londtn,
Another edUion of ihe latter work, witn wtrndcuts ifnitatiny
Dewickf b»it mncn inferior, was published in Lotnlon at a
subseijuent period,
JosATHAH BotTcniER. — Edtpord Phillim'M ** ^*fi *^
MittoH"' is prefxed to Milton^s I^etters oi State, Lond.
1G94, 12nio. The press mark of the Brit. Mus, copy it bO%
b. 1^.
ERRATUH.^i** S. yu. p. 882, ool- i. line 11, for *' Pre-
face ' read " Pfvfia/*
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357
LONDON, SATVRDATt APRIL t% ISH*
COiTTENTS,— N« 174.
ISt — A Word for Mooro, 357 — Two Cont«iiaTiBns of
. aunt Nimo. 8^ — Sir Edwio Paoilyi and the Bishops,
»— RcmAjrVjible Altar^alab in Norwich Cathedral, 380—
nea of Xorsemen in Curoberlajicl and Weitmorflliiud *-
!■ -- JUsMrboof or RedioQgh — fiMt ilngli&n Folk Lore :
tOMVtfig— The iiouter and bii Sow — Bxti^ordiauy Mar*
'^ I— Chaucer: ^'Kthoo*' — A Forgotten Homerisl —
r of* Treason;* 3eo.
i: —•• Heart of Hcjirt[s]/* 862— Tlio Altic Talent
■B«ar**in Dmry Laoo — Oeoeral liutler'« Order
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I— Com pttj tors for tho Crown of BcotlBiid — Con-
_ i"t •* Doris '*— T>:itiS IV Ajui A ill n e:ton — Dover Castle
— John Brsktne, 1 Edinburgh — '* But
Father Anseloio w i 1 — Glattoh — fiydne?
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" — Quotatioiia wanted, Ac*. 3«a.
FLIB8: — Gaiuiborough's *' Blue Boy," S66 — Mural
'* K in Stanton Church. Norfolk, 36S — Lin^ on tho
Ear, 309 — Htrijry VllL nnd :tho Golden PleetMi,
-ft!m, f*. — Cnprtcioii*: H^mv, 17^ -Mount CrilrarT,
' '•• ■ ■:'■ r !./, ,;.ifi-, -' •■ ■ ..; 1-
• .■ r. .1.
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A WORD FOR MOORE.
th© note headed *' Spenser the Poet of Ire-
^ (**N. & Q." 4^ S. vii. 3J7), mtere^tinff aa
to Spenser himself, one cannot Eelp
nt the writer should have gone out
tiiL; wuj to deprf ciate Moore, and to offer an
00 00 the political conditioQ of Ireland in a
«? Cfdculat^d to raise controversy j unless,
if one euffers judgment to go iy default,
ia not to be thought of in the caae of
li^ioHTLBT*s speculations on the imposa-
Bty of ftri in?uneetion in Ireland are disposed
jihi^ fact that one occurred there six or seven
f Jgoj but, belie vinff that Moore^s Irish Me-
rfmoat of them) rank among the finest poems
% I hope to be allowed tf^ say a few words
ijiihaUl Mr. KziGffrLEY does, to be sure,
iit (for which we should be grateful) that
of the Meiodies are pleasing nud some
piritod''; but he iu aissatiafied because
I not contain a single description of Irish
^ or a trait of Iriih manners/' And pray
*y nbould they ? Iriah scenery and manners in
s Jf*ia</«ca / Who then would have read th'emP
painted the emotions of the soul, which
Don to all the civilised world — and the
too^ for a u gilt I know — and that is
of his universal popularity. When
Moor^^ wrote words to Irish tunes^ he was under
DO obligAtion to describe Irish scenery and man-
ners. He has sometimes described the tone of
what — not having time to seek another phrase —
I will call national feeling ; but that was because
the melodies themselves suggested it. Hear what
Moore himself said upon this point in hia letter
to Sir John Stevenson, consenting to undertake
his share of the work ; —
*' The tank which you propo«e to me» of adapting words
to these airs, i:^ by no means easy. The poet who wouhl
follow the various ^entimentii which they expresSf must
feel and unden;Und that rftpid fluctuation of spirits,
that uaaccounLable raixture of gloom uiid levity which
compose the character of my countrvuien, and luia
deeply tinged their music. Even in their livelieat strains
we Snd some melancholy note intrude— oome miuor third
or Hat seventh — which throws iia ahodo as it passes, and
mAkea even mirth interesting/'
If Moore ought to have written deacriptiona of
Irish scenery and manners, when he wrote songs
to Iri-sh tunes, it must have been equally incum-
bent on him to give descriptioas of the scenery
and manners of the varioua countries^ whose
tunes he wrote songs for the National Melodies,
How thankful we ought to be for having got
such eTcquisite songs aj* *^ All that's bright must
fade," »< Those evening bells/' *' Should those fond
hopes,*' ^'Fare thee well, thou lovely one,'* "Oft
in the stilly night,'^ ** Take hence the bowl," and
twenty others, instead of sketches of landscape
and traits of manners peculiav to Indict, Russia,
Sicily, Scotland, and Naples, to whoso tunea the
immortal verse is wedded.
I venture to think, that though alltisioQS to
manners can be introduced with much effect into
humorous songs, as we see is done in those of
Bums and others written in local dialects, parti-
cularly of tho northern counties of Eugland, and
also in Irish comic songs — of which there are
many — they» equally with descriptions of scenery,
would be intolerable in songs of another character.
The reference to Burns fortunately supplies me
with an illustration in support of my argument*
There is a fragment consisting of these four lines :
" Mv hcarCfi in the Ilielanda, my'hcart is not here.
My heart's ia the Eldan^ls a-chafling the deer;
A-chasing tho wild deer, and hunting the roa —
My iieflrt's in the Hielanda wherever I go.'*
This is poetry: it touches the feelings, and
appeals to the imagination. We behold the ban-
isned man turning with fond re^et to the scenes
and sports of his youth j we see liia eye kindle as,
for the moment, he fancies himself once more
" with his foot upon his native heather,'* and then,
the illusion past, he feels that it is in imagination
only he can hope ever to look upon the much-
loved land again. Burns took it into his head to
make a complete song of this Gagmen t, and this is
how he did it. To follow the four lines abovu
given he wrote : —
358
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'hS.VILArRiL !•«»,'
" FurcwcU to the nk'lrinds, fftrewell to the Ncirth,
The birlb'pliicc of valour, llio couiiln' of worth ?
Whi^rever 1 wainh»r, whcrcvpr I ro%'e»
Tlio hills of tbe Uielaud^ for cvtir 1 love.
•♦ Farewell to the nioiintains hii^h l'ovcfM with snow;
Furewell to the arratlia imd i^re^ii valleys below ;
Fnrtwf'll to tli« forests and lii.^h iinn^ing wckhI^ ;
Farewell lo the tor renta and loud pouring fiooda,''
Now, if Bums was ohtiffed to write ft song
containing deacriptiona of scenery, he cannot bo
Mumed for the result j but surely it ia not of a
nnture to incline othora tr> tfike the same courae.
It may not be uninterebting to contrast BumsV
lines with Moore^a '* Vale of Avoca,'* which con-
tain a certain amount of desi^ription of scenery.
All that genius could do ia h^r^ dono. The firdt
two verses are charuiinj: as a tiiiidacnpo by Claude ;
but you are not renlly interested until the chord
of human feeling is touched in the third and
fourth Tereea* C. Rossi,
TWO CENTENARIANS OF TOE SAME NAME.
Tbe following paragraph appeared in The Comtt,
a newi5pnper publlabed m Gueruaey, on Weduee-
dny, Nov. m, 1870 :^
" A Ckntksauias.— In the course of the prcftcnt week
Mra. LcnfcAtoy, nee Beaucnmp, a native of the Cfl^tel
parish, and utpresfint resHliag near the dbtrict church of
St. John'?, completed tho hundredth yciir of her age*
ker mental fnctiltioa Jir« good, and her eyesight \a »o un-
impaired thtit ^he i^ able to read and sew without the
aid of ^pectaeles. She 5tiU mo pea about the bouse, and
were it not. for an injury to a le^ ^u^itaincd some time ago^
is Btill hale and heartv enouj^hto enjoy herself in vblting
her acqnaiiitrtnccs. Ilcr cHppleil state, however, com-
pt^Lj her tu rtiuam at home, A tlaujjjhter, seventy jear«
of age, rei)*le* with her» Their elroumstance^ may be
described as indigent, Judgin;^ from oppcaranccSt the old
lady may live n fow years long* r* Htr lifetime forms a
linfe canneeting the prtj^ent with tiiat pcriixl of hbtorj
when Great Britain fitrugglcd, un.<iuccessrully, to rt?duce
tho Amen«aii colaniAt^ to subjection to the mother
country. Slie 3:iw the light before the birth of Sir Walter
Soott ami Louia Philippe \ was w*"ll in her * teens ' be-
fore the Reign of Terror bail horrified the civilised world,
and hds HveH duKng some of the mo&t inomeEitoas events
recorded in modern hi-jtory.
On the Wednesday following, December 4, the
same new.ipaper contained this notice : —
"A CaiycioKNCR.— In 77*e nim*! of November 30th
it was stateii that 51 rs. Lcnfcstey^ me Beanchnnip^* a
native of ibe Caste! parish, but residing in ttic diatrict of
8t. Jobn'fj had that week completed her hundredth year,
audi we %\qw learn, by a siugular coiucidence, that anotJier
person of the same' maitkn name, and a native of the
same pari::(h (Ca^tul) — namely, Susan do Beauchamp,
relict of Samuel lo Bair, was bnptised in the Cablet
parish, IGlh December, 1733, and buried in St. Peter-
Fort, 12th Jiine^ iti^Ji agiMl 101 y«ara and fully six
moaths/'
• The nftme has aever bf-n written thus in Guernsey,
in tbe A"<*nTi«n dialect, fitid Rp<tkcn in the island, the
P'reuch worJ chnmp invariably tnkc? the form ot cump.
As the queetion of longevity is one wbicli I
attracted a good deal of attenlion, and boa
very much discuaaed in **N. & Q-»" I ihc
would not be uninteresting to the reader
useful peri'xlical if I were to verify the fai
in m doing I became more than ever co
how eaay it ia, unless great care is u&ed, te !
into error in mattera of this nature, which requ
a cautioLia sifting of the evidence adduced. I ^
show that al though the fact of tbe gml «ffe
attftined by these two individuals is subitantiafly
correctj the writers of the above notices are wtom
in stating that tbey were natives of the Caitei
parish; and that this aFaumption has bf»en th*
cause of Mra. le Bair being credited with Bti
months more age than she actually attained.
One of the venerable centenarians being still
living, I began by visiting her. I found bet won-
der fully dear in her memory and intellects, xtrf
upright m person, and with eyesight and t' '
apparentl)^ uninipaired. Our conrerMtio
carried on in the old Norman dialect, still spoKen j
in Guemaey, but the venerable d&iiie speaks uk I
reads both Euglidh and French. She toM r- '
that what bad appcBred in the newspaper w
correct, inasmuch m she was not a nativj? <ii .i..
Cftfltel pari.sb, but of the parish of 8t, Peter-PiMt;
that her family bad come originallv ^tcmu tW
Castel, but that her father bad itif
parish of St, Martifl until be bad com
in tbe town where ahe was born. She produced
a copy of her baptismal register, wbicn I bRf«
since verified by a personal examination of the
pftrieb-booka of St, Peter-Port. It Ib as r'-
lows : —
" Sujsanne, (illo de Daniel Bean camp • et de Tvi^\
Bond, a a fern me, nee le 29* de Noveinbrc ITT
le 2** de Deceinbre suivant a eu pour Parrni
U^.^aucamp et pour Marraines iSuzanne de \jvu
Charlotte Mauger."
I looked through the register of bapttsnil fd
thirteen years Bubseqiient to this date, and i
lind no other Suzann^s ^e Beaucamp. I asked 1
at what age she had married. She t*dd mt (
the age of twenty- four. I sought for the
of her marriage, and found the following entrf \
the register of St Peter- Port : —
"James Lenfcstejv fd* de Pierre Lenfestey et Soj
de Beaucamp, til le de Daniel de Beaucamp, ton* l«s<1
do cette paroisse» ont 6ii marit&s aasemble !« 8* de f
b«s 1794;"
I inquired of her whether she had kno*
Mra. le Bair, whoee maiden name was
Susanne de Beaucamp, and who had diedj
thirty year«i ago. She answered immediati "
ahe had known her well, as ahe was hti
• It is not unusual fur persons in I he \ov
life, espcriidlj' in town, to drop the particle dt. If^^^ ^^
true name was de Beaucamp, but he was CTideot^J'l<'*'^J
known as plain Dcaucatnp.
l»S, VIL Api»it,29,7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
359
mt umBf Diic Deing aesiroud oi n
c^ of the facta in respect of the
liT, I got peimbsion to examio
the Castel parish, and found th
►dmother. I asked her no more qtiestioDs nt
lat dme, hut being desLrous of testing the accu-
" the ttg^e of Mrs, le
examine the registers
Found the baptiam of ft
isaone de fieaucamp, dawj^hter of Deny 8 de
&aucamp and Esther Ahier, hia wife, entered on
ecember 16, 1733. Thia appeared to verify the
atement made in the aecond pamgrtipb which I
ive copied above from TheComH; fiuta fewdays
Iter I called again on Mrs. Lenfestey, and in the
lur«e of conversation told her that I had dis-
>T€red her anot's baptismal register in the books
r the Castel parish. She appeared astonifihed
id begged to hear it read, which I proceeded to
p^ when she immediately stopped me, sayings
**Oh! that wa5 nrtt my aunt; her father's name waa
IcboTaa do Beaucamp, and licr mothcr^a Olympo Robert
am their f^ramUlaui^hter ; thry lived at St, Martiii^^i,
fihera I bdieve my aunt was liorn, aj I remember that
ft tb« day abe attained her hundredth year many
Itsons called to see bcr* and anions them the Hcv.
liehard PoLengerp rector of that pArisb, aa be said that
to wai the oldest of his parishioners/^
This information was very precise, and I saw
I ooce that the writer of the second paragraph i
lid confounded one Susanne de Beaucanip with
Bother. A day or two nfterwards I met the Rev.
tharlea Robinson, the present rector of St» Mar- i
|n*a» ftnd req^uested him to search the rejrJater of
Sa pariah for the baptism of a Susanne de Beau*
ftmp about the year 1734. The next day he sent
^a tne following extract duly authenticated : —
** 1734, Juin 4. Sozanne, Ftlle de Kicotas de Beaucamp
H d'Olympe Robert n 6^ haptisc'e, Daniel Tonrt4.d»
farain,'ct Fnin9oiK Maugeur et llachel d(f Beaacamp,
HaraiQCs."
I In the note which accompanied thia extract
W, Robinson added : —
••Aj I have examined the re^uler for tirenty sub^e-
t|t»&t years, I think thia must be the person you are in-
quiriag aboat.'^
The discovery of the error that had been com-
Etted by sfipposinpr Mrs. le Bair to have been a
tive of the baste! reduces her age at the time of
^ r decease by six montba. She must have but
Suit completed her lOlst year when she died,
"~ ' ^^n baptiaed on June 4, 1734, and buried
2f 1835, as the following extract from
- i^^i^ier of burials in the parish of St. Peter-
I^ort will ahow : —
"1835. Sit«anne «fe Beauciimp, reove de Sanuiel le
^r a ii6 ent*m<c Ic 12* de Jain, h Tage de 101 ans/'
[ The d'^ Beattcamp family i^ of very ancient date
Jj» OuernBey, By the PlJvcita Coronje, A° 5 Ed-
Jjttrd IIL, it appears that Itadulphua do Belb
Jj4mp-> waa one of the jurats of the Royal Court at
^at time ; and in the extent of the crown revenues
« the island of the same date (1331) we find that
h^eld lands in th© parishes of St. Peter-Port
and St» Andrew, At the same time Richard de
Beaucamp'a name appears as tenant in St. Peter-
Port, and John de Beaucamp'a in St. Peter-Port
and St. Martin. In the reign of Elizflbeth w»
iind them established in the Castel, where a con-
siderable tract of laud, formerly in their posses-
sioo, beara the name of ** Lee Beaucampa." The
family bein^ looked upon in the island as belong-
ing to tbifl parish will account for the errors into
which the writers in The Comet have fallen*
Instances of longevity are far from rare in
Guernsey. In passing through the churchyard of
the Caatal I found two tombatonea within a few
feet of each other, from which I copied the follow-
ing inBcriptiona i —
*• Ici repo5e te corps de Dnmc Catherine Cohu, femnie
da Si ear Pierre le Rov, du Frir|uct, de'cedee nu Seigneor
le 17»°* Aoust, Tan 1819, ag^e de lOlAns, SMoia et 4
Jours/^
** EiiKabeCh Robert, vcnvc d*Ele*azar logroiiille, di^cdd^
le H< JonHer, 1B60, &g^e dc 99 Ana et 2 MoIa."
Edoak MacCulloch.
Gtaerasey.
SIR EDWIN SANDYS AND THE BISHOPS.
Mr. Spedding (BacmCa Life^ iii 204) speaks of
Sir Edwin Sandys as '^ a man whose relationa
to the bishops may be inferred from the fwrt that
on the 2nd of Nov. preceding [<. e. 1606] hia books
were burned in Paul's Church Yard by order of
the High Com mission.'^ For proof of the fact he
refers us to a letter of Chamberlain *8 to Carleton
dated Nov. 7, 1605. (Stat. Pap,^ Dom. Ser.) Itia
strange that the son of an tirchbiahop should have
proved thua violently hoatiie to the bishops, so as
to make them forget all forbearance towards the
son of an old colleague. And it seems stranger
Btill, if we recollt^ct what kind of man Sir Edwin
Sandys waa. Throughout his whole career he haa
shown himself a very intelligent man of moderate
views J and for a Protestant of the befnnning of
the seventeenth century, he was remarkably free
from intoleraney, and by no means given to vio-
lence of any kind. He was large-minded enough
to tind Bome good points e^ en in Roman Catho-
lica. Thus he praises them in hia Europe Specu^
lum (written loOO and dedicjited to J. Whitgift,
Archbishop of Canterbury, published 11337^ pp. 8, 9)
for their adorning their leuiples. And ne is suf-
ficiently clear-headed and juat to see that **Pro-
teatants and Papiata aeeme generally in the greatest
part of their stories, both to blame, though both
not equally, having by their passionate report*
much wronged the truth ; ^* and he freely acknow-
ledges that even some of the other part have dis-
charged thoraaelves*^ nobly/' (Cf. p. oa) Of
course this is notiudllference to religion in general -
On the contrary, Sir Edwin is a zealous Christian.
It grieves him to speak *' what a multitude of
Atheists doej biavQ it \^ oIL "^XbKW^ ^^^^s^ iSkKR^
360
NOTES AND QUEEIES,
.•wber© Papacy is most in hia prime/* (R ICO;
|«cf. alio p. 101. ) In t^e iome book be openly and
Ldecidedty declarea hi* prefereuce for ike Enffliah
iChurch with ita gorernrnent ot biftbops. (P. 214.)
And be does not appear in tbe course of years to
Lave cbanjfed bis opnions. Thus on Maj 26»
1014, in a debate on Uio Bishop of Lincobi, who
had incurred tbe heavy displeaaure of. the Com<^
iQona in consequence of a speech made by him in
the House of Lordi^ he warns them ''not to tax
the reyerent Degree of Bishops by One Man'^
EiTor.'* It was, he sayp, an ** Order of Angela
not Men» where [Wr] none of tlieni without error,"
Bill be this as it mnj, wc hnve tbe teatiniony
of a usually well-informed newfiman, writing a
few days after the event, and positively asserting
that his books were burned. The fact of the
burnings therefore, can hardly be doubted; but it
may admit of an explanation, and thia, I think,
will be found in the following extract from the
Publisher's Preface to the Ewope^ Spectdum : —
" Whereas not many yearc^ past, th^ro was pablblied
in Print, a Treatise in'iituled * A Kelation of Re%ion of
the Westeme parts of tlie World, Printed for one Simou
I Waterford, 1605. Whithout oamo ofAuthorf yet ^ne-
L rally and currantly passing under the name of Sir Edwin
►BandyF, Knight; Know all men by lliPse prpsent that
»the same Booke was bat a spurious utolnc Copy* in part
2itomi2od, in part ampmieHilt and Ihroogbout mot^t
amefbUy faMfied and fahc Printed from tbo Aathora
LOriginall^ In so much that the uane Rniglit was in-
Ffinitely wronged thereby : and on »oone a* ii came in hh
ffknomhdgc, thai such n thing woi Printed amipattBtd under
\hi» wtme^ HE cACsei} it (thongh somewhat fate, when^ it
nes, two Impresiions were for the roost part vonteil)
rO »B faOHIBITED BY ALTHOaiTV ; Alffli A9 I JTAVE
BEARD, AS MANY AS COUI^D BE BECOVKEED, TO UK
[>E8£RVEDLT BUHXT, With M>WCr A^O tO pUnish thc
Printers : And yet, nercrtheleas, tfoce that tim« there
hath been€ anotnur Impression of the same stolne into
tbe world."
Ad. Buff.
Munich t Germany.
EE1CARELA.BLE ALTAR-SLAB IN NORWICH
CATHEDRjU.,
When I was Ifitifly in tbe Cathedral of the
Mo8t Holy Trinity, Norwich, I saw an ancient
altar-slab which e»?emed to me of more than usual
intere&t. It was found not long since in the pave-
ment of the apse of the Norman Chapel, which is
dedicated to the Blesaed Jeflua, and which opens
to the north side of the choir, and haa recently
been imdergoing- restoration.
A small portion of one {the north-west) corner
of thc stone liaving been broken olT, it hna been
akilfuily replaced, and the plnb is now duly re-
stored to wnat U supposed to be its former posi-
tion in the centre of the apse of the chapeL
The mateiial of the alab ia stated to be stone
from 01ip.^ham, Rutland. The dimensions are 5 feet
9 wchm m length, 3 feet 3 inches in breadth,
^md perhaps 7 inches in thiclmesa.
A plain moulding, with chamfer, is
round three of its eides. On the fourth aidty t
is to say in iU surface o& the eart tide^ thit« i
three long mortisea about fire incbM deefL witk t
round hole drilled from the aide into eacn. Tbi
mortised I suppose to haye formexly support^ i
reredoB.
Every altar-alab was formerly marlted witli
&ve, occai^ionally with nine, crosBea. In thii uliki
however, no cross ia to be diaoeraed at the &oi
west comer, which haa be«i repaired ; and t
in the north-east comer ia worn away; hut \
cross may still be aeen both la the BOiiiIi-«nat i
in the south-west corners. The central ctom don
not appear, and may have been suppla&tfd bf
the remarkable feature in thia altar sow to w
described.
In this fine skb there ia in^^ ^ ' \\.\'-
centre, but considerably toward
comer, another alab of amaller mw, u it ■
sqnarish piece, I believe of Purbeck ouiri^le, mm-
stiring 20\ inches from east to west, and 2K|iaelMi
from north to south. When lately diaooreei
the Purbeck was seen to be not flush wjili 1^
surrounding surface, rising above it, in fact^ abr>ttt
one quarter of an inch.
This Purbeck inlay b marked wi
crosses, five in number; the extremity
are drilled, unlike those of the two ctCBsea viidiiiv
on the larger slab.
The eainller skb is supposed, bv a very leiniiJ
Norwich authority, to cover certain relics? whidi
may be the relics of a saint, or the blewed sa9t»l
ment, if the former were not to be o>btained ^1
the consecration of the altar.
I have myself observed many old altar-aUkis
our churches, but have never before met will jw j
like this; and therefore hone that eoclanokpii I
who read ** N. *& Q/' may feel diapoeed to «ia4 [
these pages with their views respecting %^\
tell us of any other examples that are fajon»>j
exist
Perhaps the archives of the cathedivl wtifl
found to throw some light upon it, if a K<rrW|
archieologist would kindlv consult them.
Yaxley,
Naios op Noese Men ix Citicbseui
Westmoreland'.— Mr. Ferguson carries hia|
too far when he considers that Eagle Crag,
Crag, Bull Crag, &c., are the pexaonal
Egil, Rafn, Bolli, &c.
There arc four Eagle Cmga in the c
rowdale, Buttermere, Patterdale, Eaaedftlei ^
can it be that the permmal same E^ ih<v
given to such craga c«jy as are suited f'
occupation of eagles (some of which have 1
their possession within a oeatury) ?
Otley, in his old and excellent OMt S^ |
fcrwLjD,-!.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
361
m IS a ReTeii Crag in almoat every
likelr thnt I Ufa gave name to nume-
»f not the filmhtefit use to any one but
Bull Crag (I'ar ICasedale) baa a Calf
r from it. The oamea of these crags
been given by shepherds after the
become pastoral, aad it became necea^
Dgtilab ceiiain points of rock. Ilenoe
:>u of the same names. In Grasmere
let are three Blake Rig^t ^'^^^ lUveu
Thran^ Crags, two Earmc- (Erne?)
» Lan^ Crap or Itigs, two law Craga ;
ind little Langdale have each a Mart
leen Crag, a Black Crag^ and Swine
vine Crag|.
>pigeon IB supposed to be the pro-
nur domestic pigeon, and there are
Jow Crags; but I observe that the
1 Z;A«-craff has be€n lately applied to
il cztg of that name,
i neceaaaiy to press these to aid Bfr.
riewB, whtcb are confirmed sufllcieniiy
w. g;
rhe follow ing haye, I belle%*e, not ap-
mnt : — The late Professor Wilson on
Lake angling excursions was accom-
a North countryman, a Mr. Angus.
it to start, after a lect on the slopes of
Mr* Angua waa non ed, *' Wliere is
waa inquired* ''There be IsV^ said
indng to a slumberer in some long
st <m^M in herba 1 '' This joke was
by an elderly lady wboae brother was
party.
Of at a Bcotcb university, while aacend-
)p road to the village of ^lorches, in
i, kept far behind the rest of the party,
icker! or we shall never get to the
I out an English clergyman. ^* My
i," said the professor. ** Never mind
puab on 1 — neceasitas non habet ieffs^^^
fy of the clerical wit. I was by when
la perpetrated. It occurred about four
VlATOB.
)0K OB Ukdiough,— One of the corre-
f Imtd! ami Water of April 1, willing
Watflon^a harriers" (which, by the
to be spelt ** horiers ^'), eaya : —
Yt the 24th, my horsii was brought to me by
jy raan» mmied Biuguliirly enouf^'b Koa<ly-
,' I beUere, a descendant of Sir Thoraaa
Ormakirk iu Liiicashiret wbo was nlUmted
of tho RoflCft, and took refuge in tbo gano-
ton in Rodciiigbam Forest.'^
n» to me to be worthy of preservation
J of ** N. & Q." CUTHBEKT BBDE.
aixiN Folk Lore i Sseeztsg. — II you
a Umea on Monday morning you are
B A preaent before tlbe week is out
HrnE Claeic£,
The Souteh and his Sow. — The following
humorous lines were often hem-d in Scotland long
ago, but seem to be now forgot. It may be necea-
.*ary to explain that euiUcr is.the Scotch word for
shoemaker : —
''Tbc soutcr gae hia sou a kisi.
* Gnxinph * (quo* the sou), *it*s for my hlrse*}
* And whs gne ye fac Aweet a mou' ? '
Quo* tb« Hotiter ti* tht* loo.
* Grampbj' (quo' the 8ou), *and vrha gae ye
A tonguo flfle glackit and ma slcc ? *"
G.
Edlnbnrgb.
ExTRAOBDnfABT Marriaoes, — On a tablet
against the north wall of the church of St. Augus-
tine, Birdbrooke, Eeaex, are the following iaecrip-
tions : —
^ Mary Bleiivltt, of the Swan Inn, at Balhome Bad in
tbifl pariflb, buried May 7, 16*HL She was the vrife of mas
husbands successively,' but tbe ninth outlived her.
** Alao^ Robert Ilogan, of this pariahf wa» tbc buflband
of Mvcn wives successivdy. He married Annii Livcr-
msen, hia seventh wife, Jau. ]| 1739/'
F. G. L.
Ohaucer : "SoHoo.** —
** For though a widewe badde but oo ficboo.
So pleEiiunt was hLi Jn prindpia^
Yet wolde he hare a ferthing or be wente.*'
MorrLs Prologue C T,, L S53.
It has been suggested (Tentporary Preface to
dix'Text^ V^^^i Chaucer 8oc») that schoo here =
90H9, Mr. Fiimivall knows of no such early u£6
of the latter word in English, and seems inclined
to interpret schoo^chtdf from li-omjtt. Part?»f
f, 447. It seems to me to mean s/toe and nothing
elae. In all tbe MSS. of the ^'u-TeAi the I'ead-
ing ia " fud a flcboo,** which puts out of court the
difficulty raised aa to what use the fourth part of
a shoe {fei'ihwg) could be to the Frere. Ftrthin^
simply = farthing, the coin,
Iji 'Mom8*a Aid ill e edition {Wifi of Baih^i Pro*
l&ffue, 1, 708), we have^ —
** The cletk ivhnn ho h old^ and may nought do
Of Venua werkiii, is not worth a scbo."
But Tyrwhitt reada here ''not worth bis old sbo,**
III the "Song against the Friars*' {PoHtical
Poems, tentp. L'div. III. to Jiich. IIL I 266.
Record Pub.) there i^ an appoaite passage to
that of tbe I^ohffue —
** For had a man ulajTi al hw ky nuct
Go ^hryvo bim at a fxerp»
And for ]qss^ tlien a pay re of shone
He wyl Bssoil him clme aud soae."
The whole of this poem (I am not sure of the
date of it) should be read with Cbaucer*s deaenp*
tion of the Frere. Compare
**Tbai dele with pttrses, [^nnea, and knvres,
With g^^rdlesy gloTea, fof wenehea and wyvaa,'*
witb Chaucer's
** IlLi typet waa ay fkraod M oC kiwitA
And pynncv, iat lo Vivt Iwi'j ^^*•*^^" \
362
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4»J»S.VII- Aj-fsiitS/
mnd again —
** Tliam felle to lyvc al on purchAc^,
with Chaucer^fl
^ Hi* purcbftcc was bottiir than his rente."*
John Addis.
EastingtarL, near Littkbampton, Soskx.
A Forgotten HosreRisT.— A few days hgo I
obtained from Mr. Salkeld's roontbly catalogue —
obiter^ well worth a reading-man's regular per-
quisition— a blank-rerse translation of Homer'a
iirst Iliiid hy tho Reverend Sanjiiel Langley, 1).D»,
und published by Dodsley in 1707. In a preface,
occupyiDg twenty- nine quarto pages of p<?n8sology,
{Aiiffiue^ I waddle K italici^d, empham ijrntid^ at
an average of one LuQdred words in every page,
the learned D, D, sets forth Ha having been in-
duced by Pope's RhtjmcB and his Non-JIomerum
to translate the entire Iliad i experimentiug its
' reception by the publication of its first canto.
For this purpose lie tella Ui? that be had speedily
thrown aside Pope's version^ and wholly abstained
from reading the elder translators; expecting by
the adoption of Milton's heroic metre — in his
bands decaayllabic prose — to extinguish Popee
Ilifid altogether.
Had ibis experiment been noticed by any of
Pope's suhsequent translators or commentators ?
"Was it followed by the Tersion of the other twenty-
three cantos, announced as ready to meet the
{jublic deniaodf* In 1707 Pope's rhymed Hind
ind been in everybody's hand auring forty years.
What nortitm of that period had Doctor Langley
devoted to his own blank Terse ? Did he survive
to couipaie and eonipete it w^tb Cowper^a? Haa
it been hobcansted to ^'ulcan P or la it aiumbering
in the Laugleion archives ?
But lut notour zealous Philhomericbe deprived
of his rightful commendations. Appended to his
trnoalalioD, and independent of its preface, he haa
iliustr/tted the opening of the Pelidnjan Epoa by
nbundant references to the Scriptures, to Hesiod,
to Pindnr, to the Greek draraatiats, to Virgil, to
Ovid^ and to our Ne$cio gtnd mq/m — the Parmiise
Zod of Milton, E. L, S.
Thk Crv of *' Treason/' — In all the accounts
of the e-iege of Paris and of the insurrection which
followed, the writers notice as a peculiarity the
constnnt uee of the word treawn : do they know
that the an me* in the middle ages, was the moat
common outciy to intimato danger, the most
proper tJUinmons to arms P It occurs constantly in
Frijissait's Vhonivles. Thus, relating how Sir
Peter And ley led a party of Navarroi^, in the
nighty to take Chalons, he says that the citizens
of the ca&tle of Berwick^ finding that it bad 1
scaled and taken, began to sjjuud their trump
and to cry out^ '* Treason, treason ! " * \V1
Aymerigot Marcel, an English captjiin od
borders of Auvergne, takes by stratfigf m the cji
of Alarquel, the inmates who passed through
court, seeing hia followers climbing orer the wj
instantly cried out, " Treason, treason ! *' t
same alarm was given by the guards of OQO of i
gates of Oudenarde when that place was ret '
by the Lord Destournay t» and occurs twi
another chapter, where Geronnet de Ma
one of the captains of Perrot le Beamo
means to put him in possession of Montfer
Wo may quote, as additional instnnces* \
lowing passages from the metrical Uf© of P
du Guesclin by Cuvelier: —
*• Adnnt It pactie alanne k une ft*i« t
*Trnv, tray 1 sdgneur, armeje-voua demeaoli.***
L. \nm, vol. it.|)LfW
*' Monk fort fu U ti<i.saiis qu*^ ce jour cnmiuiio^li
Aux armea ont crie li Englois par doik,
Et crioient : *Trfty ! ' que bica on r^poutfl."
L. 2001«{, p, m
** Lfl gent dc «* pats lont h PoilieR ale,
Et vunt crijtnt : *Trav ! nou3 sommes tult find*"
L. 200J3^|i.2i)<i.
FiUKcisan£-3Liciist. ]
Atheniciini, Fall MalK
e^urn'eif.
"HEAKT OF IIEART[S]."
Can you tell me what has led to the uairenill
use of the expression '* Heart of henrt^ '* b 1
plural, which appears to me to be not only inrtW^j
rect but nonsensical P I have never met with M
single writer of modern date who ba^ not iuitjpt«i|
this form of expression, implying ihst 8 iJersaoJ
ma? have mom hearts than one, and una e«pe^
ciaily warmer and more coi-dial than the re-5t» lij
it assumed to be derived from Sbakesi>?«f«j f 1^1
so, a reference to the passage from which it nwi^J
be taken will show its incorrectness. In iht) toek
between Hmnlet and Horatio in the tbiid ad*
Ilajfikff the I^iuce ot Denmark says —
**Give mo tlut man
Thftt is not pasaioo'i^ silave, and I will wear him
la my heart'* core— ay, in my hoart of bcut,
Aa I do thee."
Here *^ henrt of heart " is evidently usedj
more forcible (though syDon\Tnoud)" eip
than " heart's core/* and mean
of the heart t or, in modern ]
the heart. All this seems a,^ .
, , hardly be supposed to have
were exceediugly wlarmed because there were cries i able writers and speakers and
from all parts of " Treason, ti*eason I To arms, to I variably use the form of expr^
anns ! *' * Further on, we read that the defenders —rT.~: . ^„ - . , ri~
— . „-^^_ . -_ • r roi^^iiirt^ Chromatjt, voh if* p
• t?ir John FmLssArt^A OtroRtchs^ Ac, trani^lAted hy f Jlfid, vDl. v1. p* 3*21,
Thomas Johnc?, vol. iL p. 440, 3rd edit. London, 1808, S\'o, § Ibid, vol ix. pp. 1 15, 1 17.
j/«.H
NOTES AND QUERIES.
363
DiaUke in tbia matter
J ahftll be thnnkful
CIIEUI3F0I1D.
. — I find mention of nn
i ransom of b cnptiT© lady
w»r between the Rom an a
rkeo tlie latter were totally
ttpufl. Can anj one inform
the Attic tnlent repre-
Thos. IIatcliffe.
t Ptmodelled the coinage, the Attic
brmted for it§ purity. The chief
I of silver, iha arerfijc^ wdj^ht of
I of Svkn to that of Al^xamhT the
» C^ 5 gTAiajL From tbi^ wc g<;t the
ATOirddpobe weijjht : —
Ibi. 02. 1^*
0 0 U'B
0 0 in-77
1 4i nm
75 :>| 14C9
cal information relating to the Attic talent
our correspond en t to Smith's 7)ic/iV>n«ry of
ntan Antiquities, ed. 1849, pp. 812. U33 ;
og, Untersuch.; Humphrey, Coin ColUc*
I8r>3; and The Englith Cyciojxedia, *' Art»
viii. 9.1
vr" ux IJburt Lane figures con-
Sir George Etherege's comedy of
^ She Coii'a (London : printed for the
d.) Courtall, one of the dramatu
snssure Lady Cockwood in the prac-
having a jollification on the morrow
rutinous observers, speaks thus : —
at going to a boose that is not haunted
ij^and we are secure; and now I think
' in Dmry Lane is the fittest place for our
IIL Sc. 1, p. 37.
Jolly also, in persuading Sir Oliver
> accompany him to a bacchanalian
al clinching to the argument, says :
inner at the ' Bear,* the privat*8t place in
11 be no spies to betray us : if Thomas * be
re warrant thee," &c.— Act III. Sc. 2, p. 41 ,
ke to know if there is any account of
jxtant, giving when first built, and
lition. J. Perry.
>bey.
)UTLEB*S ObDEB AGAINST THE LaDIES
BANS. —
knows about the order by means of which
:o anything like insult being offered to his
idies'of New Orleans. An Englishman who
e time after, in a railway car, spoke to him
u know,* said he, 'where I got that famous
I got it from a book of London Statutes,
ndon** into ** New Orleans,** that was all. I
\\x Oliver Cockwood'3 servanL
The rest I copied xtfhaim «l Wra^tW *' — MacraB's
Amcficant at Home^ L 165.
Is tiiere any truth in this statement of Butler^s P
Josef BUS.
Cazhits. — Ar© any fragments extant of tha
writings of Caniua iha poat, MartiaPs friend?
Ac^^ording' to Epi^ramnmia (iii. 20^ and viL 68J,
both Caniua Kufus and bis wife Tbeophila must
have been uncommonly plea^fmt people*
Maxeoceeir.
Tiri CABMEXiTGa. — Whore is to be found the
best account of the Carmelites in England befgro
and at the Dissolution P J, R. B,
[Pierre Ilelyoi in hia Iliiinire dea Ordre* Mniiaaiiqii^st^
171 4t 4CQt had girtun on i^xcdEpot account of the Ciiritie-
litc^i or White Ffiars, CouiuU also Dagdate'j^ Monax-
iiron, edit. 1830, vol vl. pt. iii, pp. 1538-1^2; FolJer'd
Chjirch Mmtartft eilit. 1&46, iii. 272-277 \ Neweotirt*s Rv-
pertoriumit L h6^-5QS i Fo.>fbroke*t BfiliMh. 3lonachumf
e^tir. 11*43, pp. 78, 2«7j and for other works, Uruntt,
Mftnurl e/ii Li&raire, ^ML 1865, vl. 1170. John BiOe,
LUshop of Oisoiy, who was hitnself a, Giirmdite friar,
wrote a JJistojy of this Order, now among the llarleiaQ
manuscripts, No. 1819. Of Bale, Weever thus speaks in
his Funeral Monuments, p. 140, quoting some lines from
his poem ** De Antiquitate Fratrum Carmelitarum : "—
" He speaks much in the honour of this religious order, of
which he was a member inlhe monastery of the Carmes
within the city of Norwich, and finds himself much ag-
grieved at a certain Lollard, as he calls him, and a friar
mendicant, who made an oration, and composed certain
virulent metres against this and other of the religious
orders, which he caused to be spread abroad throughout
most parts of England in the year 1388.*']
Competitors por the Crown of Scotland. —
Where shall I find a statement of the pedigrees
of the twelve claimants of the crown of Scotland
temp, Edward I., with the precise grounds on
which each clmm was based P C. D. C.
Conoreve's " DoBis." — In a work entitled The
Lifcy Writings, and Ammtrs of William Congrevep
Esq,, published without any printer's name, 1730,
I find it stated in a note at p. 155 that the
*' Doris " of Congreve's poem of that name^ com-
mencing—
** Doris, a nymph of riper age.
Has every grace and art,'*
was the Viscountess F— — .. At p. 62, to wliicb
the reader is referred in the above note^ the Vis-
countess F is alluded to as a notorious lady
of intrigue. Is it known who this Viscountess
F was ? Texplab.
Danbt and Ablinoton. — In the catalogue of
the Jjondon Library is entered a book, ^' letters
of Danby {Duke of Leeds) to Lord Arlington.
4vo, 1710.'' I have lately inquired for the book
fit the London Library ; it is not to be found. Is
there such a book in existence, or is the entry
in the catalogue a mUlaVe^ TVi^ X^isrj ^^^^
sesses the two iveW-knoioi ^toVmi^ \^vc^sf %
364
NOTES AND QUERIES
2> Is tliero a pnrtiuit of Mr. Ersldne in exisi-
*e ? If so^ in wbose possession ? * Z,
Memoirs rekiiw to hts Impeachment^ ond his let-
ter s written 1670-8, C,
[The following is probablj* the vork inquired ttfler:-^
Copiei and /^rtractg /)/ sotnt LrUrrM tcriiten to and frotn
the Karl o/" Danbi/ (now DvJie nf Lreds)^ in the year*
JC76, 1677, and l*i78, with partinitar Rctnark$ npon »omt
iff them. Second E^itfoD. l^ond, 1710, t#%'0. Both odi-
tiODB Ar* in tlM Brkiflh Mob cum.]
DoTTBR CA5TLB.— May I oak if the following is
a fact ?—
"In 1S22 three men wero still to be seen bftnging in
front of Dover Cnstlc.^— Victor IIugo*i By Order ftfthe
King^ i. 85. (English edition.)
Writing on the subject of tarring of smugglers.
R. J. F.
JoHK EaflKraE, Pr.oFKssoB or Law, Edht-
BFRGU. — L Tlie firat edition of The LiMitufcs of
the Law of Scotland was printed and published in
1773, arter his deatb^ hj a friend of Llio familj.
Who was that friendlj editor ?
2 * ' • * "
ence
" Bn Fath^er Anselmo will never aqaif,"
15TC.: ABCTffBianop op Canterbijry. — In the
lloyal Academy Catalogue for 184(>, picture No,
615 is described br tho following lines on An-
Belm*8 death :—
** Bat Father Ansel mo will neref uzaln
Ponanoe impose upon ladifi or swuoe ;
His feeble stefipe and hi« ajmdol^d trejkd
Will never again the forest thread ;
Bis welcome voice in cottage or hall
Will never mare bleas nor knight nor thrnlL'^
Can jon id farm nxe who is the author of these
lined, and from whence they are tnken ? The
picture was painted by Ftinny Mclau.
C. G, H.
Glatton, — What is tlio meaning of the name
'' Olatton ^' ? R, C.
Stdhey GoDOLPHiN. — I cannot find in any
peerage-biography the date of the birth of Sydney
Gbdolphin, afterwards Earl of Godolphin, and
Lord High Treasurer, and a famous minister, 1
should he glad if any of your readers could supply
me with this date,
I am also anxious for parti cukrs of another
Sydney Godolphin, a relative "of tho former, who
was one of the wits and poets of Charles IL*s
leign. He is mentioned in the Metnoin of the
jyi^ of Buckiirjhmn^ prefixed to tho '* Rehearsal/'
as one of Buckingham's intimates ; and I suspect
him to be the ** little Sid, for simile renowned '*
of Lord Mulgrave^s E$9mj on Saiiref and not Sir
Charles Sedley or a brotSier of Algernon Sydney,
na different editors of Dryden, to whom the poem
was attributed, have supposed. W, D, C*
[• Ad engraved port rnit of John Erskine of Cardrou^
advocote, 4to. appears in Evana'a Oatidogue nf FortraltSf
ro7. /.p.jJ5.— hn.1
RtTBiars' " JunoxEifT of Paris,'* — An ftngnrr- '
ing of thia subject, executed by Adiien LommeJio
about lOtX), bears the following dedicatioa: —
" D. Jaeobo Ditarte nobili domesUco Begii AtigWi,
sin^lflri pictoriiii artis cultori^ Imju^ ar<ibetypi tatnlm
int<.*r pltirima posaidenti L. 31. D. C. Q, ^gidiof Hbb-
dricx,"
Who was this Duarte, and is there any reeort
of his collection of pictures, or of its ultimats
destination ? R. E, Q,
Lbavenwortk F^utiLT. — Can any reiid«t iC
'^ N. & Q," tell me where this family sprung toBf
and who was Sir Lewis Leavenworth, who is men-
tioned in RuBseirs Lii^es of Ecc&vtric Ptrmna$nM
the life of Sir Gerald Massey, where a pntf gniB
by Sir Lewis I^eav on worth of London is mka
off The date was about 1740-50. Anyififc
mation respecting the above will be thaokfatty
received bv H. A. BAi»B&n>6l>
24, Ru5sdl Road» Kensington, W,
Dfke op MAWdTEsrER t Fleet Marrucel—
Bum, in his History of Pm'ochial JU^idtrit in
reference to these marriagea, enya: —
** All clABses flock ttd to tho Fleet to marry in ha<tt ; tbi
re^ster contains the nam^s of men of all mnks and p^
fessions. Among the aristocratic patrons of its nnlk
chaplains, we find Edward Lord Aben^vcnnr, Afr i^
and Lord Montague, aftervrarda Doke of MancfieSlir/*
Which Dnke of Manchester was this? and wto
did he marry F T. E R
[This was unquestionably Robert thiitl Dofcs of War
cheater, who, according to Sir Egerton Brydfm* eriMM
of Col Una's Petratjt, ii. 67, **on April 3, 17»S, widiii
Harriot, daughter and coheir of Edmand Dunch, <d Uttli
Wittenbflm in Berkshire^ Ewjairc, Master of tli« r"" "
hold to Qtiecn Anne," This Is the marriage
place at the Fleet j for to Bum's Fitet Begk
we read as fullowa :— " 1785, April S. Robert M(
Groa?enor Square, and Miss Parritt Duncb, B. i
JUcAROOK. — ^\Tjat is the derivation
word macaromij the best of dcsseit-cakes? Ill t
opinion a dish of macaroons, a dish of waliii^
and a decanter of '84 port is a dessert fit fori
emperor — aye, were he Etnperor of Genuine '
Vereailles before a starving Paria. 31. -
[Italian macanmi, introduced through tbtt
Mabbiaoe Service not aixowe^ *•'
KEKCE AFTEE TWELTE o'ClOCK. — A
missions me to ask the reason of this t^^ .-
I thought it might haTQ originated wli
was performed at the marriage, WiD m
kindly pacify the fair inquirer'a mind, who '
dently considers that a Tery aabstantial r^
ehould be given by the clermrman why hi i
defer the maldng two lovera nappy at any n
able hour ? J* i
Cariabrooke*
[A reply to this queiy wOl be f<raiid in *'X. A^T'
S. X, 148.]
€•«* S. VII. Afril 29, 71.]
NOTES AND QUEEIEa
365
Sib John Mason, — May I a^k whether Mr»
Baihtkl Tt7C1:kb, who meke Yaiiou« inquiries in
**N. & Q/' in 1865 ai to the desceadaata of 8ir
John Meaoiii h still deilroua of ohtaining infunria-
tion respecting them ? Pt H«
MoLii:RE*9 *^ CoiTEDrEfi,"— Is ftnj'tlijng known
of the translator of Seleet Comedies of Moli^re in
B Tola,, printed in both French and Enj^Ui^h, date
ITiJfJ ? '' London : printed for John Watts at the
Printing Office in Wild-Court near Lincoln's Inn
Kelda.'* There is a aeparato dedication prefixed
«ach pUj. It is rath or amusing to aee Mon-
Jourdain tigurinR- aa Mr. Jordan^ and atill
amusing in the advertigementa of booka and
io «l the end of the volumea to tead of Mr,
iiiro and Mr, Handel t
JOK AIHAJr BoUCHISB.
IJlTOTATIOKe WAWTKD, —
" Rjltle bb bones
Over the stones,
Ho'» only a pauper that nobody owns.^
W. P. P.
[The reoiiirkaUG poem, "The Pauncr't Drive," which
fifUn b«en attributed to Tbomaji Uood, la by T. No«l^
wa« flr»t published in
|MU P: *0€. It if reprinted in Cuwil*a P^n^ iitadms»i
hjji Rifma and liounddaytt^
0. It If reDnnted * " «. -• v, ..
Btriei L p. 195»]
Where are the following linos to be found ? —
"When Italic doth povaon want,
And trATtocs arc in l^ngland 3cant,
Wfaeo FVadc^ b of oommotion frc«,
The world withottt an etitb shall be/'
E, B, E.
"^ISTience comes the following line concerning
the affection of a dog for its dead niitster f —
"U did not know» poor fool, why love Ahould not bo
tnt to death/'
A. O. V, R
What piece of poetry begins with —
'^Tbe wind haa a language I wi«b t cotitd learn/'
P. J. F. Ganhllon.
Whaie is the following quotation taken from ? —
''Whra philosophers have done thuir worat, two aud
^ ptiU Alike fuor/'
A.
A few days since I heard a gentleman quote
i« following couplet : —
"Talk not to mc of laugitude or latitude,
Bat tell mc rather where to look iot gratitude.**
Can any of your correspondents tell me whero
^ lines occur, and who is their author ?
E, A. D.
^ Th« mort I learn the law I think I know/'
About fifty yM» eiiiGe I met with this aen-
ftuce, I hare always thought it was in the
^tingi of Blahop B^veridgo, but recently looked
unauecesefully for it Can any correspondent
oblige me with a referenoe to its source ?
J\MP>3 Gilbert,
*' Tranquil its spirit seemed and Uoaied Aim ;
Even in its very motion there was rest"
H, D. R
Sir John Hahmak Whitfield. — In the Gm-
Uemim's Mamasint for 1784, p, 50, occurs a notice
of tlae death of "Sir John Haruian Whitfield,
aged 101/' It is also stated thnt ** he took the
name of Whitfield in 1700 by Act of Parliament
on succeeding to the estates of John Whitfield,
Esq., of Yoikflhire." I incline to the belief that
this must be the celebrated Admiral Sir John
Harman^ who was flag-captain under Admiral
Penn of the ship which carried the Duke of York
(afterwards James IL) to the West Indies in
1664-6. In the life of Admiral Harman in Bio^ra*
nhiaNavaHi^ it is stated that the time and place of
hii dfiflth were unknown, which may pernapa be
neeoimted for by this change of uauie. Should any
of your correspondents be able to confirm this, or
show how Admirsl Sir John Harman and John
Whittield were connected, a very interesring
question would bo solved, and probably some
authentic evidence as to his age might bo useful
in settling the pomt of longevity so often discussed
in your columns. As commanding a ship of war
in 1664, and not dying till seventy yeai-s after-
wards, a strong* approach to the ago aligned him
is actually arrived at. There wtire a family of
Whitfields near Canterbury, but I did not suc-
ceed in finding any will of a John Whitfield at
York anywhere about the time mentioned.
Junior United Sen-ico aub. W. Newsoitb.
Wreck op tiik Tesiple. — As my query re-
specting the wreck of the brig Temple cannot be
.of general interest, I write to give my addro8ai|
according to the notice at the end of " >f. k Q/*
I know who the passengers were, but then I
have no proofj and cannot refer to any record.
The fonner were, 1. George Archer, M,D„ who
afterwards died in Soinde, while surgeon of the
04th Regiment, he being then married to hta
second wife Louisa Hariwell, daughter of the
Vicar-General of the Isle of Man. (His widov?*
married, secondly, at Allahabad, Major Clrt^thead
of the 8tli Foot, now Sir E. 11. Greathead, KX\B.j
and on her death^ the second husband again mar-
ried.)
2. Elizabeth, his first wife, and who was aftor^
wards drowned when the Great Liverpool, re-
turning from Bombay, was wrecked off the coast
of Spam in 1845 or *G.
3. Their son (only child) W. M,, afterwards
Capt. in 78th Highlanders, aud who, after ex-
changing to 19th Itegiment, died at Clifton in
1861 from the effects of the campaign of 1857-8
io India. T. IL Sak. Archeb.
% Wellington Terrace, Aylesbury.
366
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4«haVII. ArBiL29.7l.
GAINSBOROUGH^S "BLUE BOY."
(4<^ S. iiu 670 ; iv, 23. 41, 80, 204, 237 ; y, 17,
35 J vii. 2370
The biatory of the origijial **BlQe Boy," io the
lianda of an able art-autbor, would make a popu-
lar «nd iutereattng volume, Tbe feud between
the two great painters to whieli tlie oriffin of the
picture is due ; tbe feelin;?a of triumpli on one
flid© and of discomfiture on the other at its succesa-
ful d^but ID 1 7 70 ; the cold-colour semion preached
against it in 1778; its purchase by the Prince of
AVftlea, and its eojoum in Carlton House ; the
dinner over which it was sold by the prince to
John Neabitt, Eeq-,M-P. ; its presence amougat
the first-clivss pictures by foreign masters in Nes-
bitt's collection, and it'ii appearance at bis sale in
liS02; its a>joum with Hoppner and others during
tbe unsettled state of Neahitt'a aitairs ; its restora-
tion to Net^bitt in 1816 ; its sale by Nesbitt about
1820 ; ita purcha'^e by Hall, at whose sale in 1858
it appearea aa ** a portrait of the Prince of Wales,"
and ita subsequent struggle to regain its right
position in picturedom, would supply ample ma-
terials for such a volume.
Here, boweyer, we must bo as brief as possible.
During the last century there arose two great
painters in England — Sir Joshua Reynolds, able,
cool, and diplomatic: and Thomas Gmnsborougb,
talented* impulsire^ and non-diplomatic.
The forte of Sir Joshua was portraiture, and it
became a part of bis policy to depreciate Gains-
borough s portraits, but to' praise bis landscapes.
Carey tt>Ih an anecdote illustrative of this policy.
He staler tliat at one of the meetings of the
B.A.B Sir Joshua proposed *' the health of Gains-
bofoiigh, our bt'it landscape painter,'' whereupon
Wilson, whoso forte was landscape, retorted wnen
bis turn came, *Hlie he4\lth of Gainsborough, our
heal portrait painter.'"
To show by an example that Sir Joshua's
policy was not well founded, tbe '* Blue Boy"
was painted by Giunsborough — a work in which
genius to conceive happily, and skill to execute
admirably are so barraoniously combined that it
admittedly ** rises into the ideal of portraiture."
Tradition savs the ^* Blue Boy '^ got a capital
position at the'R.A., which contnkited to its suc-
cess, but gave anQf»yance to Sir Joshua that was
not forgotten when Gainsborough's application for
a special place for a special picture— tbe group
of the three royal princesses — painted for Ids life-
long patron, George Prince of Wale?, was arbi-
trarily refused. There seems to be no doubt this
refusal was resented by the king and heir apparent
as well as by Gainaborough. The Moj^mg
Herald (April 22 and 23, 1784) strongly censured
the council of the R.A. for refusing this appha
Uon, as if royally inspired, for it thus concludes:-^'
*• In tlic name of charity what offence has bees i
mltted by the throe princesses that they are refniidl
situation in which their chnnus might app&R ia ft pn
liifht ? It U A point which cannot be easily det^rmii
whether the conduct of tbe council of the R^. bt loti]
m greater affront towards majesty than to the ftrlist."
The oifence did not lie in the prinoesei, but
solely in the able manner in which their chinsA
hnd been transferred to the canvas.
The defence of the council which appearwl id
the Public Adveriim- (April 24, 17S4j reacis ii
if from the pen of Reynolds, for it bteatbss hit
policy throughout. It' begins : *' That the Blhi-
bition should be deprived of the landscai>e peadl
of such a painter as Mr. Gainsborough is not ■
little to be lamented " ; but there is no laraentaj m
about the loss of his portrait-pencil or the exclu-
sion of tbe group of royal portraita about which
the difference arose.
Was there a lively apprehension that, horn tlw
exalted rank of the princesses and the patjiioigie
of the king and the Prince of Walea, these pop-
traita would have proved to be even a greatisr
success ft>r Gainsborough in fashionable socim
than the *' Blue Boy '* had been, and vote* wew
influenced accordingly against any rela.\atlOBr
tbe hanging rules ?
The study for the groun of princeesai
No. 24 in the late winter exhibition of the RiA
and it showed that lleynolds had cause for tl
jealousy he was openly charged with by tbe
Mttrmriff Herald. The picture itdelf, but in t
mutilated state which spout its effect, was Na H
in the previous winter exhibition. Thii vd
libition, we have been told, was the act rfj
re -arranger of tbe royal coUectioa to make itf
some odd place or other*
Upon the various pbaa&s of the Reynoldia
Gainsborough controversy, one is almost forced t
conclude that their quarrel in 1772, only t^^
yeara after the exhibition of the " Bluts Bor, |
which led Gainsborough, to bis own delri"'""^
to send no pictures to tbe R. A, during the (
four years ; the motion carried in 1775 t<
Gainsborough's name off the list of R.A.M
afterwards rescinded; the cold-cjslour sefl
preached against the offending '^Blue
1778, the year after Gainsborough
began to send pictures to tbe R.A. ; and 1
trary refusal ol his request in 1784 iotK\
position for the group of princeases, if not alistip*
I in the depreciatory policy of Sir Jo.ihuA^ ftflw*
I food for thought at any rate. Yet when d»tJ»
had removed bis great and gifted rivals 8ir JosHtt*
paid a handsome tribute to bis memory, « "*
toe man worthy of his steel,'* even if the dep»c»*
tory policy does pop through in places.
Ihe king was a staunch pati\>n of C
II. A»iL 29/71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
367
disliked Re^Tiolds ; and the policy of the
)wikrdi§ the klng'a favourite was almost
to briug both the king and the Prince of
0 the aide of Gainsboroiijrh «t the time.
m, the cold-colour discourse of 1778 did
to the purchnse of the '* Blue Boy " for a
the ©Tent of 1784 wa« almost certain to
oufrht aboat such a reault aa a special
..r-..i "■ t-nnage* W'hen, therefore, we hear
' owner of the picture, Mr. Nea-
,. ..... belonged to the Prince of Wtdes
IV/), it is nothiog more than und*^r the
tances was to be expected. Id ft similar
0 prince afterwards ** crtiwded the studio
iner with princes, peers, and fine lofliea in
on to-Opie, Owen, iind J^awrence.'* * But
dd'Colour discourse did contribute to place
lue B<>y " in a royal collection, so now
opo6ed to cite it as atfording cogent evi- !
hat the green ** Blue Boy " waa the very |
agaioat which that sermon was carefully
1 and delivered to the miug geoeratiou of
ents.
' Blue Boy *' appeared aa a norelty in the
Id which Ibrnied a contract with, «nd made
f itiip»\'«iion than, an ordinary portrait of
ould hare done. Grace aniJ dignity are
features of the *' Blue Boy/' and
treatment was Gainsborougfi^s forte.
light in a cold colour on the principal
the middle of the picture are other
l&fthe'^BlueBov."
Uxeee features, wliieh then gave and still
Itbrily to the picture, form the chief iiead-
itis^^d in tha! «ermon. Novelty and con-
1 a ineiins of producing a **more forcible
M'* than or<Iinjiry procedure, are cou-
I grace and dtgiiitv added to the repre*
ire al»o condeoaneJ in atrong language as
^ " vulgiirily and meanness'*; simplicity
td as often ** disagreeable and nauseous
m '* f inaases of ligbt in one colour is eaid
ible ^* an artist s lirst es.^ay in imitating
: the po&itioD of a principal figure in the
a picture under the principal light i»
led on ag creating ** needle.^ difficulties **
illy acted on ; and a cold -coloured central
rith wann colours surrounding, are cou-
%B **^'ro*^ heterodoxy invoking dilliculties
the power of art, eveu in %im haudi of I
pr Tiii.in, to make a picture splendid and '
ms'^ (far h'^B Gain.^borougb, who was no j
||iilied)» Then follows the application of [
pn t> the offender in the preacher's *' mind's \
Bch baa been so long assigned as the iett4^e
^ Blue Boy's " production. Descending
fcrallNitioa to particularisatioa, Sir Joshua
li for the itepi and says :—
v/Pamttr*^ by AIIaji Caniimgbam, t. 242.
"Though it is not my busuieiis to enter into the detail
of our art^ vet I muist tnkc this O|iportunity of mention*
ing one of the meana of producing that ffreat effect which
we observe io the works of the Venetian paiateni, as j
think it In not ijencrally known or obsen'ed It ought,
in my opinion, to be indispensably ot»erved that the
mansca of li^ht in n pictare oe slwu'ya of a warm mellow
colour, 3'cllow, rod, or yellowish-white ; and th;it the
IjIuc, the grey J iad the green colours be u^ only to
support and to set off the«c warm colourt^ and for ihLi
purpose a Amoll proportion of eold colours will be 9U0-
tk*nt."
Now the two chief colouro condemned here as
too cold for portraiture, ffreen and blue — for grey
is more of a cozy than a cold colour — are pre-
cisely the leading colours of the green "Blue
Boy ^8** costume.
In short this discourae appears to prove, nlniost
to demonstration, that the '^ Blue Bt>y *^ was then
an otTender or heretic of standing, or no such ser-
mon would have been launched ngaiust his hetero-
doxy, and that the original picture was a green
blue-clrtd — consequentljr, that the green ** Blue
Boy " must be the original picture.
The history of the ongin&l picture, which has
passed current for so many years, is the Tersion
embr)died in the pedigree of the Grosvcnor or pal©
" Blue Boy,** as it appears in Young's I/ittMraUfd
CataliMjue of the Grusvmor Gttlhry^ publit»hed in
182L
Young, after mentioning the influence which
the ** Blue Boy*s** success exerci^d in erihnncing
the reputation of Gainsborough, says: **The pic-
ture waa purchased at Mr. Buttiill's sale by Mr.
Xesbitt; it became afterwards the property of
Mr. Iloppner, who disposed of it to E«irl Groe-
venor "—but whether to the first or the second earl
is not stated.
In a more or less modified form this pedigree
appears, with all its errors, in subsequent works
on art In one of the latest of them, Fulcher*»
Life of Gain^orough (18^0), it is given in these
Bomewbat different words: "At Mr, Battalia
deAth, the ^ Blue Boy' was purchased by Mr,
Nesbitt ; the picture was afterwards in the pos-
session of Mr, Iloppner, the painter, who flold it
to the iirst Earl Gros venor.*' Thus supplying the
information that the pale ^* Blue Boy "* was bought
by the first Earl Orosvenor, whotlied in 1802.
Such is what may be called the oftldid pedijireo
of the pule "Blue Boy^'j but it is erroneoiiH, as
hns beeu pointed out" to the e fleet that Nesbitt
did not obtain the ^' Blue Boy *' at BattalFs sale,
but fi-oni the Prince of Wales'; and that Hoppner
did not sell the origioal '*Blue Boy" to Earl
Grosrenor, as the Grosvenor picture Vaa bought
from a dealer {** N. & Q. '' 4*'» 8, iv. 237 ; v. 17.)
The trade history of the pale '' Blue Boy " has
also appeared to the effect that it was fifst heard
of at an auction-room #ftle, without a frame and
with a hole in it; and that after pnasing through
the hands of several dealers, who had it reptured
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4«* S. VII. Artat W>,*n.
and framed, it wna sold for the GroBvenor collec-
tion (" N. & Q./' 4'^ S. iv* 2;37.)
The trade history seema to he coufirmdd by the
picture itselff if it doee^ ad it is aud la do, cany
on its face and back eyidence of a hole having
been repitired; and of its hflvin^ been lined as a
consequence^
When this picture was hung at a right height
last year at Burlington Houbo^ a repaired-looking
patcL of an irregular triangular outline^ with iU
oifferent shade of colour — the too sweet juvenilitj
of the face, more especially the lower portion of
it, for a manly youth of live feet in stature — and
sundry un-Gain«borough-like manipulationa in the
detail — were readily seen, and led some judgea
to think it was not a Gainsborough. Even
now, when hung about three ft-et too high at
South Keodington, through a good glaas the
above drawbacks may be seen.
J^ut it may be aaked why it has been hung £o
high there, and in contrast with the big brown
faded portrait of Mrs, Siddons as the ^'Twgic
Muae ** by lieynolda, ne if in renval of the olden
feud, infltead of having been hung iu eontra^ft with
an untouched Gainsborough of the aamo land-
scape baclcground cla«s, or the gre< u 'VBlue Boy"?
Let any vis-itor to the Museum compare the sky
of the '*^ Blue Boj '• there with thtit of *'Musi-
dora" or "The W atering Place,"' kHh by Gains-
borough, in nn adjoining roora, and the contin&t
can hardly fail to be interesting and Bugge^tive.
We now come to Neahitt'a history of the
original ''Blue Boy/' and a bettf^r authority can-
not he referred to: for he ia the admitted owner
of the picture formerly, and aLgo the gentleman
from whom the pale *' Blue Boy ^' claims its
originality. J. Skwell, Aasoc. Inst. C.E.
The LoinbArtl^ E.C.
(^To On concluded in atir ntrt)
MCfiAL PAINTING IX STARSTON CHURCH,
NOUFOLK.
(4»^ S. vj. 542, 577 ; vii. 40, 172, 24.1.)
In flDBwer to Ci . A. C. I heg to state that the soul
is never rt?prej«ieDled iu media? val art as baring ^.r.
When I wrote upon this flubject, in answer to
F. C, IL, I had not the drawing by me, nnd trusted
entirely to the description given by that writer.
Since I have studied the details minutelv, I tin d that
description inaccurate, and therefore all deductiont*
thereon fail. The details show us an aUor with
representation of crudtixionj a priest in rhamhh^
not cop€y standing by, and reaching towards a ton-
aured figure to receive (apparently) the scroll or
schedule which he holds, and on which is an in-
scription* At thia end of the painting, it is clear
that the aquicreA, and all below, are parts of an
earlier decoration underneath, and Ibrm no part
o£ the present giihject. That, which hi.a been
ealied A diield is certainly no shield at aW, b.iv4 \
• - W--^T tiiat tht
'•CUIt^. Kod
^ .--on that ia
^ not to be catbilf
;t!i the seroOii di
frc*m the
rii position,
have heard from the 71^^
markiTig"? upon it were
I was further confrr'-ti-
minute details the
trusted. Behinl t
with diisped I
inent, one of i: -
Then, there is the lady who forms the ceotrs
figure, evidently one of* rank, even if it is not
certain, as G, A. C, asserts, that she wears i
coronet. If this, however, be the case, it will laoi
to stronj:^then my opinion, now entertmned^ rf
the subject Neir her is a veiled llffurtv «•«•
ingly holding a book, but this is douWid; tksa
a mi^cellftneons group coming in. Thew is i
diapered covering whirh I i ' ' Ink ii in-
tended for a bed ; in ftwt. wli aince to bi
an altar has evidently t»€en hu^uu. 'u iVir a pillow.
In front of this coyenn;;^ ia what appears to In ft
carved tomb. The aogels with the soul cooplstal
the picture.
Now, if this were merely the recsord of altfW&e*
tress — a subject po&iihle, but I must say lirt in
accord with our experience, altbough Bit Rod
does countenance such a view — then? would atbir
be less crrcum^tance, or the line reading wooldbi
easy and simple ; but this iisbv no means the ow.
In MS8, such subjects are found, but thkiii
difierent matter to placing in a churdi ^^
really is something complimentar)' to na i _
dual. We want the strnngest evidence bafilft
can admit such a view. All our i?npen«ll«a
mediicval art point t«> one
the laity's instniction in reliu
It was,* indeed, the principle una o
second Council of Nicea. It therefori
me, that this picture would more natu;
to a pa;«age in the life of some snint
presents the Assumption is so utterly
a proposition that it is mere waste
conrider it The legend to which ii .
me t*y refer is that of J^. Mary Magdalene. J
too long to io?ert at length, but it is full
terest, and has been very fully enters
German work. It is rarely that \o\:
incidents in one writer. Tnmyo}
ing represents the death of S. >i
the bare details of which are n.s i
preached at Marseilles, and convoi^
of the province, together with Li
giving them a promise of ofeprin-
In a voyage they then undertook to vi
the wife brought forth a child and
body was put ashore, and the child idi.i f) n*"^
Side, having no means of ^nbaistenoe. On tbs
father returoing, he visited the spot whCT« thf
body had been laid, and found Dolh wife 9Si
child alive. This is the tirst part of the kgCB^
S. Maiy Magdalene, living in the d«iC7t, $»*
4«ka,vajiPWL29,7i.j NOTES AND QUERIES.
369
Sd to b« Deor^ Skke sent word to Maximin, faUhop
T AlXy tlwt she would appear at a certain boor
tiie OTStory, in which he performed his devo-
ntfu Mftximin accordingly assembled the clergy,
, went into the oratory at the time appointed^
, there (bund the Bjunt, who, haying partook of
a»cranient of our Lord's body^ afterwards fell
down dead in iront of the altar, ^laximin after-
wardfl ordered his tomb to be made clo^ to the spot
Now to apply thia to the paaatibg; W« hate
altar and priett in euchmttio Tttstroent; the
- " d covenng is doubtless over the dead tx>dy,
I tomb ifl in front. What has been called a
shield I should imagine to have been a chalice : I
easnot trufit the drawing, edpecialJy as I henr that
this part wm Tery obscure, and "my experience
t^aebn^ me how easy it is to err iu such detaihi»
Thfii ' '%ith coronet (?) would be the prin-
ces; 1 figure by her ade Martba^ who
also b^ion;^^:? I > this legendary histor}-; the crowds
the assembled clergy, and people \ tbe hgure with
cliifped bands plainly attired, the pHizrim prince.
Now the inscription must bo con>iJered. The
jiCroU has three worda, each separaliid bv a con-
ventional colon (;). The drauglit«nmu lii hardly
likely to have erred in this. It wiis not an uni-
Teasdd convention ; fiometimes it is a sinc^le gtop ;
more often there ia none at all* We have therefore
tiireo wordfl to deal with. The drawing gives
» PBOCB : * * . KB (?) : MAJU a/' If we ndmit the evi-
dence of three woida, we cannot allow of the union
of the first and aecond to make the word " procede ''
ot '' procedeote/* nor can we admit *^ pro te ^' on
MCount of the want of the »top between. Nothing
il m0r^ common than erron! in drafts of inscHp-
fimm when the letters are at all obscured; and
Ibare are certain characters in Longobardic cani-
llli thua frequently confounded : a and B, ana B
nd o, and x and ir, &e. If we reject the read-
Ingi as above^ we cannot accept *' prqce ' - aa a
eorrect rendering.
My suggestion ia that the inscription should
mod *' r&E4iE : TUA : iiARUk.'^ If tbia be ■dmiasible,
then we have coniinnatory eTidence in the le^nd
to which I refer. ** Prece tua " occurs three times
iu retoeocd to the PTayer of S. Mary Magdi^-
koe thjongh which oMapring was obtained bj the
vtiiee. But there ia even another part of the
legend to which this might refer: a sinner in-
scribed his sins upon a schedule^ and placed it
beneath the cover of the altar of S. Mary Magda-
lene. On retaking it, it was found to be blank.
The inecription would be pertinent here. I have
omitted to mention, that| on the decease of the
saint ^ itngela wefe seen to carry away her soul
with songa and hymofi ; and I may further add,
that in a woodcut illustration to her life in a copy
I hnve of Pr^M de Natxilihtu the soul is being
boma to heaven aa in the Starston painting.
efis, Bolnorcr Strc«t. J. G. W^LEB.
LINES OX TEfK ntTMAN EAR. /
(4*** S. vii, 235^34.) Jlfc^
Your correspondent JIr. W, E. A. Axo?r hav-
ing afibrded a clue to the discovery of these linee^
the kindness of my friend Mr. Latey, of the IlUu-
t ruled Lojtdon Newtt^ has done the rest. They
appeared in that journal (voL xx.)^ Jan. 17, 1652,
Perhaps as, like Mr». Bardell in Piokicuk, they
are ** lively and sought after," your courtesy may
give them a new circulation, especially as' they
are of a most instructive character.
"THE piHLoaopinsB axd hbk fatqeb.
** A floiind cAine booming throagli the air— ^
* VVhnt is that sound ? ' c|aoth I.
My bltte-eytti pet, with golden hair,
flfida answer, preMotly,
* Papa, you know it vvrv well-
That sound — it was Saint pAncras BcW
'♦ • 3Iy owD Louise, put down the cat,
Aod come and standi by me ;
Vm snd to bear you Ulk like that,
Where's your philcrarifihy ?
That soiuid— attend to what I tell—
Th«t sDOsd was nttt Saiat Pancras BelJ.
** * Sound is the name the 90ge selects
¥pt fhe eondading leiro
Of n ■ , of cffocti!,
i'-. ; t blow *5 the germ.
TUc . .. ..^ brief analysis
Shows the intorpolations, lli«s.
***The blow which, when the clapper all p.**,
FolU en your friend the llcH,
Changes it^ circle to dlipse
(A word you'd better «pell)»
And then cornea elasticity.
Restoring what it used to be.
••* Xay, making it a little more.
The circle shifts about.
A3 much as it ahnink in befaie
The BelV T^ii^ vm, awells Ottt }.
And Ao a new eUipM is made,
(Yuti're not attending, I'm airaid),
*♦* Tbiu change of fortn dIaturU the «tr,
Which in ita turn bchavt^j
In like el.t£iic fashion there,
Creating waves oo waves ;
Which ptfcsH each other onward, dear.
Until the outmost 0nd9 your ear.
'* * Within that ear the surgeons find
A tumpanmm, or drum.
Which has a little bone behind, —
Maiievf^ It's called by .some ;
Unt those not proud of Latin Grammar
llambly tnLOslate it as the hammer.
" * Th^:; wave's vibrations this transraiti
Un to the ineK$ bone
{I»ouM means anvil, which it hii£),
And this traasfers the tone
To the small *# orbictdnre^
The tiniest bone that people carry.
" *Tho ilopTf next— the nnme recalls
A siirrup'tf foroi, my dnt<ghter—
J<Kiiit tbreo half-circular canals,
Esch flll'd with limpid water ;
Their curious luung» you'U cjViaftrj^t,
Made of the ax^aatorj nwree.
370
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4»»tS, ViLAnuLS^"
** ♦This vibrates next — and then we find
The myitic work b crown'd ;
For th«n my daughter'* gentk Mind
Fir^t recogniiea sound.
Bee what a host of cansea swdl
To make op what you call " the B*U." '
" AwhUe she poured, my trright Louise^
And ponder'd on the ca^e;
Then, lettUng that ho meant to teaa^i.
She slapped her father's fare.
* You bad old man, to sit and t4>l1
Such gibberygojh about a 15*. U I *"
HENRY VIII. AND THE GOLDEN FLEECE.
To 3Ir. BtiTTERT'a inquiriea I reply thfkt
Henry VI IL waa duly elected a ICciiiht of the
Ordt^r of the Golden Fkece, and that (r^o far na I
am aware) th^^re i:^ no rcpreaentation of him with
the collar or insignia of that order. The circum*
fitnnces connected with \m election, and his r^^a^oa
for abstaining from weminjt^ the order, will, I
hope, be found sniRdenllv intereating to merit a
place inj* N, & Q/'
On Oc timber 10, liS% MAxmiOiftn King^ of the
Romans (afterwards Emperor of GermanY) wna
elected a K.G, in the fttoad of Henry IVrcy, fonrlk
Earl of NorllmiBl>erliiDtl, skin April 28 pveviou^lv,
(Cotton ^IS. Julius, B. 12^ p. 55.) On Sept 1*2,
1400, a comniiasion waa issued to Sir Charles
Somerset and Sir John Wriothealey, Garter, to
invent Maximilian, (IlyDier, xii. 403) His invea-
titnre took pi nee at Nuremberg on Christ mas Day,
1490, when i\ui book of statutes was delivered,
and the oath ndniinistered.
This investitujno formed (in 1528) the auhjf^ct
of one of Holbein's very rare hifstorical meture?^,
executed dnring his stay nt Sir Thomas Morti'M at
Ohel&ea, the original sketch of which, Kilned bj
the arliet, is* in my possession ; awd from it Wen-
cealaufi Hollar made hia en^Tuvii'g, to be found
b A>hmole, p. 4^.
Cons^pquent npriiMnximilian*fl proctor, theMnr-
gT»ve of BrLiudenbiJr;>h f Aahmole^ p. 4ii8), not
presenting*" himself for in&tfillmion ana to otler hia
helm, &:r.^ wiihto the timu limited by the atrtfutrp,
Maxiioilii«rs reception into the order, a,s well aa
the oftth talien by him* becHme void nnd of no
effect, uuich to iht* nnnoyance of Ilcnry \IL
On August ]4, lJ>0*i^ 11 poo ihe occitsinn ot' the
ratification of the treaty of alliaiu'e between
Henrv and Jlaximilian^ the emperor for himself
and Ills 800 Philip cuvennnted to accept and
wear the (i^irter imhlivhjy the King of England
and his son Henrv Prince of Wales promising to
accept and wear tlie Golilen Fleece, (nymer, xiii.
35, 30») Accordingly^ 2^ir Thomas Brandon and
I>r. West, attended by Norroy King at Arms, were
eotnmiaaioned on November 18 following to admit
the emperor into the order, deliver the ensips
declare the statutea, and receive hia oath for tJu<
observance of them. The emperor, howe?cr» 4^-
clined to renew the oatb, but promised to a«faii a
groctor on February IS to be installed fcft hinj c
t. Geoi^e's Day' next ensuing. (Cottoa
Galba, B.2.>
On Nov. 17, 1505, " Philipt^ le BeP' heH t
seventeenth chapter of the Golden Fleece at J"
delbourg in FlaodeiB^ upon which oocaaioii I
knights were elected, ana at the head of the lil
was *' Le Prince deGalle^/' aftejwartU Henry \\)\
(De l^i0*enberg, Uidoire dk VOrdtt de In Toia
tfOr.)
In the absence of any satisfactoiT proof 1
^faximilian or Philip wore the Order of
Garter publicly, it nmy fairly be aasumci
did not; and such omission may be acceptl
good reason for Henry *8 declining to w<
Golden Fleece, and satisfactorily ♦:xpliiin» wby i^
pii^ti>rial representation exij^ts which shows Mam
millan with the Garter or Henrv with the Fire
Olxbi F. iloLl
Ktog'a Road, Clapham Park.
RKALM.
{4?^ S. iiL a34, 413, 590 j v, 4C'6; vl 96, ?M)
Mb. Patnk now asserts that such formi ts
cA#rf?.r, hiiiXf rt'px, fox, cannot, as I endeavouird
to show in my last note (vi. (HJ), he intart/uitiidi
forms between the older forms cl^taL
tieU'j foh\ aud the forms nn\v in use,
hetntr* vieiLtj /t>u« : but that the forms u
ox belong to one dialect (that of the ^* a u than i
the French of Paris*'), and those in ma', i
to another, viz. the French of Norman4,
Picardv ; and that, therefore, I have been \
of confounding distinct dialects together,
but little dithculty in meeting this objectioo t
Mr, Payne's.
In the first place let him consult Ampere (BiuLj
(k Ift format imt ile la hmg. frfrni;.^ 2nd ed<, ^'
18tU)^p. 371), where he will find it stated tliatt
forma m am, cm originally belonged to the Ptrisi
dialectyt whilst those in ax and ^'.r primitively ll
longed to Picardv, and were thence transfei ~^
Paris, In other words, that the x and u forj
[^msM^
I
I * Fornierly 11I50 bktnx* For the take of brvvilltl
I ^hitll fall the forma in ax^eJP^ojr, the* f»>rtiM : ibf^u
I aiLT^ «tfj-, ovs, the u forms; whilst the to]f
' fiit, in which the urij^inol Latin / is prps*»rv
j whk-h both the t and w fi>nTi»* ar^ d<'rtv *
if fornix. It m^^t bo remirobcruvl ili
Fnuch, boih in the singuUr {tiid plu!\, _,^ im
repLictd by j or x- ^
I + In AmperPi Uttrgnn^ian dialect; hot (ihtA.n.mn
I we aie told that und^T Bur^undian hi'' ' '
I 5pokcn on th*! bunks c»f iho Loire,
I Bnucc — that is what Mt;. Pavxi. cui
; Parb.**
4*S.Ta, Armi.29.7J.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
371
note*) hofh of them occur in the ** French of Pari?/*
T^rbich ia precUely the view I hold; whilat the
obvious corollary to Mr. Payne's present position
18, that the two seta of forms fire never fouod in
the same dialect. So also Diqz (Grarmn, d. rommu
SpracAm, Und ed., 16-56), who snya (i. 122) that
tho lanvruBge of the Ile-de-France lies between
the three principal dialects (Bur^undian, Picard,
and Norman), and is mitetl up \uiih (hem.
Again, if Ma. Patxe will only take the tronble
to examine the Jloman de Rou and the Jioman de
lindf by Wace4 and hia own favourite edition
(hy Michel) of the Mommi de la i?o5€, or even to
cnn?jAilt my last note (vi. 00), he will very speedily
di^r.'vor thit the x fonns arc very common in the
^.'i>rLi»rin Juliet, and the « forms rare; whilat in
' Fitach of Paris *^ the u forms are much the
common, and the x forms more rare — facta
ii are in direct contradiction to hia assertions.
■ h dialect, too, hvth forms are used — which
.■ . jjLin in opposition to Mr. Patnk.§
i have examined a great many other books, and
exceptinj;^ in the oldest, where scarcely any but
th^ / forms ai-e met with, I have always frmnd
hnth the X and k forms, the .r furuia predoaiinat-
fi the older books. But even in the oldest
s of all the dialects 1 lind tlie x forms a$
( = fi*tr)j h^ aud dei. As far as 1 can see, cr/r seems
to hare come Into use as early as the eleventh
' tf a version of the Psalms of that cen-
l by Fr. Michel, Oxford, 18(50), and to
used excimiveti/ until it was t^upei-^eded
>* modern forms att§ and aux. If this
' will Mr, Pavjte explain how am and atu:
-an have been formed, if not by the change of the
■ *n auf
1 y finds great support also in the words
^ftule (pole, switch), and I think
aul). In the lir.-t three words the
, . ...IS b<?ea retained, and yet the a has
'lie titii-vMii this «?*/ being conatftutly found
! '^ oldest writers, has evidently not been i»-
-i by Mr, Patkk's g^ramniarians. See Dioz,
''■J p. 103, II Diez himself virtually allows
ll I * ?*^ PAT?rB may object
""* ^ 'ill, as he w
»i
r
that Wace was only nti
nj born iu Jersey, e<!uL'ati-d
to have parsed the ijrpater ]ijirt of his
lii-i Nor lUrtH-K reach mu<t have been
re freely quotes frofu him, and
testa ♦*dout rori^^ne Nurmaudc
i lie Riunan de ht Bttse both lived on the
, and their litagunj^o behjnf^a to tlie
t, which ii da»etj by Aiiif*i!re (and
Fri'ndi of Pari<i,** Si?e note f,
' ■ In tlie same line.
Iifjre is "Certft^,
^ \y in the Rtwtnn
•u, I'jtrtSi iy2ti), e. g. ftiViii trit dot,
jr douTf i, 2872 J witli which compare
m^ that mule imd ^uh (e witch) come from
my theory to be possible; for he states in the
passage iust quoted (note *) that, in the Burgim-
dian dialect, aul not infrequently comes from «/,
and he quotes as exainples i^tuM (valet), maulai'
droi (malftdroit). But, if in the Burierundian dia*
lect, why not in the other dialects of France?
Besides which it L?, according? to Ampere and
Fallot (sea note t)i precisely from the Burgun-
dian dialect that the French' of modem times has
sprung.
Mr, PAYyE asks why «, and not any other
vowel, should have come in before / in French ? I
can only say that the addition of u before /, whe-
ther the / drops or not, is not peculiar to French.
Let hini ex amine the English words mH^ mall^
fake, halt; and the Scotch a' ( - all),/ri' ( = fall),
font ( = fault), saut ( =^ salt) i^ and the Northum-
brian awmaht ( = almost), quoted by Diez> Ivc, cit.
So sgain^ in onrffdion, halk^ eath ( = civulk), dadk^
tafkf «viM', the ^ hos virtually dropped, and the a
is pronounced an.
In conclusion, I will just notice Mr, PaY5X*s
Attempt t'l turn me into ridicule, becmise forsooth
I assumed the old Fr^nieh form of the F^at, duicis
to be dith; and Mu. Payne, relyinj? no donbt
upon Schck-r, chooses to assert doj^^malically that
it is d(ditj and dols only* Scheler and Mu, Paynk
are both wron^r ; for doh and dids both occur* and
flids ia older than d/)h. See a version of tlir^
Psalms of the eleventh c^nturv, edited by Ft»
Michel (O.xrord, lSm\ Psalms iviii. 11, xxiv. 0;
atid the Chausoft deJiolandied. Ounin, Paris, 1850)>
Chant I,, 11. 100, mO, 572; Chant il, 11. 42, 4(j,
394, kc, &c. Knr is Mn. Patnk more fortunate
in assertingr ^b^t f^"^'* "wa'* at once superseded by
doiis/^ for I have mauv times met with what I
regard as the intermediate form,** viz. doZj e» g*
in the Eommi du Remrt, 11. 7G0, 1048^ 1059, 1170,
tdltthti and r«/«», and if «»o the n mu*t hfivo beeotat
a«. ihnugh hti t'ndeavttura to expbin the «« oth?rwUup.
As to G utile, DieR sfl_\ * the Ik^t / of CW^iVi became */, whilst
the stcond remains. I prtfpr to think lh«t the tirst /
dropped, which woiiM give tw Gfdef mid that th«n the a
became ow, a* in Hfin^ir and (fitidc (a wit eh). I find Gaht^
Galles (Wules), fn^rn the fame root ss Gtdlia, in tho
Roman dr Brut^ il 1314, 1JjI.% 1317 ; and it is well known
Ehiit in old French one of two Latin fn b commonly
dropped, fis in bde^ nufc^fule^beih^, mdhifnUe,
^ The / d4M»3 not always dmp in Scotch when th« *i
becunvfts au. li\\\\\ we find auld ( — old), cuM ( = cold),
wautd (power); and these wonb are aUo written aU,
etiUI^ uHifd^ though d'^ubtlesa even then tho a is pro-
nounced HM. See Jamie'iori''s ScoHUh I^tyrnutttt/iad Did,
*• One reaiion that I he intermediate forms do not
pi ways occur i% no doubt, that the final h was, oven
when written, ultitnntoly not pronotinced, as Ma* Favsk
himself iillovvs, Z/r»/* and biaU would, thtrefore, be pro-
rii^uuted precisely in the *ame way as doz nnd biu^, oadj
hence the forms t/or, hhixy though useful ns shawiug thafc
the / was not pronounced, wore not ab.*olotdy ne?c.Mnrj-;
and hence such intermediate foims were frequently dia-
peiworl with, and the I forms seem to ^^tA^ <tow^i Nsvv^*
ibe i« forms.
372
NOTES AND QUERIES.
L4»»S. Va. Ap»n,S9,7J.
1427* &e. (3€0 note J) ; and he cannot say this
form b«ioi]g8 to a different dialect, as in the same
book, U. 2873, 70G2, he will also find the form
tlouj-, Mb, Paytte will do well, therefore, to be
more aecimite and leaa poaitiTe in future.
F. Chajtcb.
gyaenhaot Ilill
CAPRICIOUS WRAY.
(4'^ S. vu. 259.)
W. B. B. will find this flonnet in Dodsley's Coi-
hdion of Poetmj vol ii. p. 321, ed. London, 1775,
with the title, '*A Sonnet Imitated from the
Spaniah of Lopes de Vega. Menagiana, torn. It,
p. 170. By the same/' W. B. B. will see that
hia memory — and no wonder after fifty years —
baa not retained the lines quite accurately :■ —
♦*Cipriciou» Wi* [tic] a sonnet needd most hava ;
T ne*er was «o put to *t before j— a SoDuet I
Why fourteen Teraea must be spent upon it ;
Tis ffood howe'er t* have conqncr d the first slave.
Yet raliaU ne*ef And rhymed enoug^h by half.
Said I, and found myself i* th' cnidBto^ the »eeoad.
If twice four veraea were but fairly n^ckon'd
I ihould turn back on th* hardest part nod laiijifh.
ITius far with good saoccsa I think IVe scribbleil.
And of the twice seven lines have dean got o'er ten.
Cdorago! another'll finish the first triplet,
Thsinka to thee. Muse, my work bej^ins to shorten.
There':;ii thirtetsn liue^ got through driUet by driblet*
TU done I count how yon wiU| I wftfr'nt there's
fooftecn,**
Iti the JSk^ant Riiracts^ edited by Viceaimua
Knox [Verse^ B. iv. p. 838, ed. London, 179iJ] the
first liaae ia given thiia : —
^Capricious IFrny a sonnet needs must have," Ac
and the authorship is assigned to ** Edwards/'
meaning no doubt Thomas Edwards, of Tiirrick
in Buckmirhamshire, author uf the Cmiom of Cri'
tkism^ and of whom there is a biographical notice
by Nichols in hia CoHectmi of Piuems, vol, vt.
p. 108*4, ed. London, 1780. But there ia a
ittlc doubt in the nmttei- of autboi'ship, which I
should Uke to see solved* Knox aaaigns the (>onnet
to Edwards, probably correctly, but Nichols says
of Eflwarda, *' thirtem of his "sonnets are printed
in Bodsley'a CoUeciiofiJ' and in that collection
wo tind f^SonneU by T. E." thirteen in number
[vol ii, pp. 322-334], but they /o^ic^ the sonnet
aboTe quoted, not precede it. It would seem then
that Nichols, though well acquainted with what
Edwards had written, and with Dodsley's CoUt^c-
turn especiallj, did not know this sonnet aa hlfl.
The words in Bodaley's title, ** By the same,''
whkh Taffuely point to an author, 'when traced
back, land ua either at the name of a *' Mr.
Roderick" [vol ii, p. 300], or at a poem on ** The
Feaiide Ki^ht to Literature, by * '* u e, some
one Mnonpnom [vol* iL p. 2tM.] Perbow a. Tftifti-
Gtwe, which I have no presc^ut means ci iiviiKvn^,
E
to The Comma cf OiYrmwt, in which Niclioli
there are tweBtj-seven other sonnets of Edw
or to Fearch^s CoUectiimf in which he saya tkcra
are eight more^ may help to soWe the qnMcnL
Who **Capricioua Wray " waa, I cannot tefl;
but it may have been " Biuiid Wray,^ the atdiat-
olog^st, who waa living at the time the somMt
was written, and of whom George Harding puV
lished Biogm^Ucai AneedoteM. London, IBl^s dvn,
with a portrait. Vide Lawnaea' Bihl^ Man^ toI v.
p. 3000. E. A. i),
ShilKngstone Eectoiy.
Thia W88 Daniel Wray, Depnty-teUetr rf tha El-
chequer from 1745 to 1782, the intimate fideailflj
many of the litwrary celebrities of hia day. The»
is a lonfir and interesting memoir of hiin by loi
friend Mr. Juetice Ilardinge, in Nichola** Ifiatfrv-
tiotis of Literary Jli^ort/j vol. i., and sotnfy acccmst
of him may be found in the biogpaphi
aries. Tht* sonnet is by llichard Rodei
of Ma^alene College, Cambridge, wUct <i. . <
1766. It ia given in Mchola*s Iil»tair»tifmn, i 1^,
and in Bodsley's <'<Mcction^ ii, 336, 17
stated to be an imitation from the
Lope;( da Vega. ki r. if.
MOUNT CALVAUTT.
(4'»» S, vL 542 ; yu. G2, 103, 215,)
Not only " because the historian Soaonico liQi
us that the enemies of the Christ v -- — - ^rsUirf
in the holy sepulchre and the \ ■\\ra%^
&c,/' do I " di<jmi63 all this copi..... ^^...i^iosyof
St. Cyril as yaluelese," but from a mofa erfa^
reason still, which ia, that 1 entertain ymj ^^
doubta indeed of St Cyril's giving any ancli l«t-
timony at all. The words relied upon in fuppP^
of this position are, xyKfpavttrrtiet^ ^mf^itivm^ W^
al ^irpai — rendered respectively, g.*4peremitutii. (^
fpicxioiiSy and rocks^ of which faat thcra CAfl bti
difference of opinion.
Now admitting, for the sake of amuneati I
mperemimmi is the true equivalent cw ^jnppt#
is that word aignilicant of nothing but hii^ i
the sense of measurement by feet, yardSyOrmilfli^ .
Is it hnrdly ever used in thla sense ? Bo wa s; ^
of a tall mau, a high mountain, a IqC\j tow^r^ )
mpereminerU man, a fnpergmmeni niQuntiia
stipenmimmi tower ? I think not And when «»
do append this participle to eithar of these naan^
I fnncy the quabfying notion conveyed, and alA^
universally accepted, would be that of tjxtHM^
mpeiioriti/j in noint of something or otbee, Of*
other individnais of the same dasa* I betiffi till
to be equally true of the Greek equiYaleot Ot
inr*pavl<TratMif Scapula givea, as renderiogai^rwi^
tuperOf e^'ceiioj valde aniectlhf and aa Cfiaiilfik* JB
%u^^ort of these meaninga. Greg* 9^fm ^^^
Vrt^fcArw ^%yBf<<nH<wv ^ ao^;nia all othar dflg^
\
4'»^S.VTf» Ap^I^^^^7l.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
373
jMlR excelling, Ifedrick, nnd IJddell aud Scott
gire sdmilar renderinga — tlio latter, iw exaniple, ft
<|i:ot4iticrti from PhilostratuB, t^ riji yv^^-ns inrtp-
atrnifxisj intellectual excellence or auperiority.
Is it not posBible then, ia it not very probable, la
it not more in keeping with tbe whole gbt of the
pasefige; tiint this fihould be th@ meaning intended
W St. Cyril 'r For after describing Golgotha a^
iiret & Hytof^ would it not hftve been flat, and
itanef and jcjiine to speak of ita htiijM^ rather than
of the prc-^nihifTice attaching to it from the won-
derful and all* imposing s€ene of which it had
been the theatre r And as this is the common,
the moi^t general! J received meaning of tbe word
be ii^es, umy we not fairly oonclude that he does
so use it, and understand him as speaking of
CalTJirjr, not as a mountain — the term having no
such excIosiTe reference — but aa a lo<7ality sacred
above all others, and of surpassing dignity, on
account of the grand, and solemn, and momentous
tmnsaction which had been there consummated ?
That ^oij'^ufj'or should be rendered cimnpicuou^^
I do not complain ; bat of the inference drawn
from it, I tlo. Because a thing is cottupicmm, it
does not folloiv that it is elevatud in the sense of
hmffht, Tbe pea i? conepwuous, mid I look upon it,
at this moment, from the room in wliicb I am
wri ting, nut because tbe sea is higher than this
room, but because this room is higher tlian the
ftea* But ffmiy6fitt'Q% — for it ia better to ke'*p to the
original — is a term uf wide extent. It is expres-
" « of anything that may be se^jif and, meta-
|>borically, of any thing that is rernnrkahle. In
this latter sense the Greeks often used it, and we
^hap3 vtore often ao. Of Calvary, therefore^
whether mountain or valley, if ite true site were
lown and conld be seeOi ^on^J^n^^r miofht justly
jwredicated of it. And that it m predicated of
it, ffives not a whit stronger support to the belief
of Its being a mountain, than to the opposite one
Df itfi being a plain,
I consider ** cor^pkmmh/ testifies ** as too strong
HMpidering for futprvpu ^cuj^o/ioot, and ecaioely
^^pe out by the Greek.
^U to at ircTfai, I do not see its bearing upon the
KfgTimeot. Hocks exist apart from mountains —
HI tha surface and below it. Hence the rending
»C the rocks, and their after rent appearanoe, tm
uentioned by St. Cyril, is, to my mind, ouite
iMde tbe question. That '^ the very stone of the
iBpoleliiv was still lying there," is even more so ;
li ibis, if adduced in proof of anything, must be
of our Lord's burial, as it could add nothing to
ths evidence of Calvary being a mountain.
In conduding, I would repeat what I said in my
former short paper, that I am competent to give
910 opinion on tae question itseli', nor haTe I any
bifts either way. I hare only spken to the eri-
dcsce brought forward, and of this I see no reason
to alter my view, that it Mh short of supporting
the fact which is based upon it* I think we HaTQ
nothing to do with what St, Cyril was as a man|
or his residence at Jerufialem^ or his catechising
on the very spot in question. All that w© hatf€
to do with IS, what he sut/fj and to decide upon it,
aa matter of evidence, whether it be suiHcient to
establish the fact of Calvary's being a mountain,
or whether it be not. Some may conclude it is j
others, with m3''8elf, may judge it not to bo so*
We may agree to differ j and diiiering, be friendly
none the less.
I thank Mr, M^GRiconfor his kindly notice of
my foi-mer remarks, I thought be would not take
it amiss to be set right as to the quotation from
Sozomen. We are all Eable to aucn inaccuracies,
and for myself I have nearly always found that in
quoting at second band I have become the uncon-
scious and unintentional propagator of some siUy
blunder or other* Edmufd Tew, MA*
1\S. — I have consulted a near ndgbbour, an
eminent Greek scholar, on the poasnge hem St.
C'yril ; and he says, ** out of which little about
the * Mount * can be gathered/*
LORD CAMPBELL'S "LIFE OF LORD LYND-
HURST ** :
THE RAILWAT ACCIDEJTIB COMPEKBATIOIT BILL.
(4**' S. vii. 280.)
I was once nlaintiff in a case tried before Lord
Campbell, and the hearing had not proceeded
very far when " my Lud '^ tamed round to the
jurr, and made some remarks damacriug to my
claim, I did not get a verdict, but 1 was con-
soled by the assurance of those about nie that
the defendant would never be able to hold his
verdict. Such proved to be true. I obtained a
new trial immediately, and ultimately ray cause.
The future biographer oF this chancellor wiH be
able to find plenty of like cases illuslrative of hia
anticipation of the cases before him.
So much for his character as a judge. LOBP
Lyttelton has described him as a biographer j
and now a few words upon him as a legislator.
I believe that his Bill for compensating railway
accidents has been the source of more frauds,
falsehoods, and legal chicanery than any other
enactment that was ever pjissed. By the last
Report of the Brighton li ail way, it appears that
the New Oroes accident cost 74,010^., and there
was not a single person lulled. The com]^y
have since convicted one woman who obtained
compensation; and they have attempted to get
back the amount of compensation and costs, but
" no money returned '* is the motto of ** the hon*
curable profession."
How many cases of the same character there
were of which the company had suspicion, but
which they could not \inTV% lo \'QkaMvc«i.^\ ^aasasiX.
say, but 1 am quile »iift ^JaalXl \/i^^\itmi3sa
374
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[4i*8.VIUA
would take tbe trouble to iiKjnire of the aeverftl
companies tbey would give him such facta ns
would soon make him cease to regret that biB
" little embrj^o pet hwub • ' was tnkeu from him,
and, I will even venture to «iv, make him blu«h
for the part he took in originating it.
For the accident that occurred at Aacot some
few years ago the South Western Company paid
over OOjOOOA There were 5(XJ persons in the
tmin, and they compensated GOO. The reason
given for ibis was that the company knew from
experience that the noble inBtitutioo, the British
jury, would never give a verdict in favour of the
company. Fine work this for the lawyers.
There was a man who lived at AVorthing^ pro^-
cuted some time ajfo, and it was shown that he
ma<le n business of getting- conipensalion when-
ever an nccident occurred, I have no doubt there
are many ** black sheep ^* now who are working the
" pet ewe lamb ^' to get money out of the London
and North Western Company for clients who never
were near Han'ow when the accident occurred.
I hope and believe that I^ord Lytteutos's
memory will be respected and revered for bis cha-
racter and abilities^ and he need not envy the
fame of one who was so partial a judge, and so
unscrupulous a biographer, for CArrj^ng a Bill
fraught with so much wrong-.
If Lord Lyttkltox wishes for immortality jn
connection with this measure^ let him introduce a
Bill tu amend it in such a way m, without reliev-
ing railways of their liabiti ties in case of neglect,
will prevent poor shareholders beio^ robbed by
the dishoneet. The ancestor of his Lordship
threw Bonie light on the law : let hlft Lordship
do flomething to purge it of one of its black spot^,
Claeby.
MExzoxrNT OF Oliveu ChomweiLj oxck the
Pjiopebty of Brabshaw the Kewioioe (4^** B.
\i, ili'if 445,)— A copy of your interesting paper
of October 22» 1870, has been sent to me by a
friend of mine, on account of the notice of n
curious print of Oliver Cromwell. 1 posaesa a
Bimilar prints or rather mezjiotint, which haa a
very vnluable hi storv attached to it. This mez-
zotint belonged to liradshaw the regicide, who
pM&eased Bradshaw-IInll, near Bolton-le-Moor^,
and haa never been but in two houses, that of
Bradflhaw Hall and my own, My mezzotint was
TuirchsAed, along with 'some other'matters, by the
fate James Hardeastle, who for some years resided
at Bradshaw Hall, and he gave it to my father.
The print in my possession is considered the best
epedmeii of me^jtotint engraving known, and is
the most beautiful work of art of that kind 1 ever
saw, poseeasing now a freshness and depth com-
bined with a softness of toning of the shadows, as
if it had just iasned from a publisher's hands. It
dMers in noihlug from the one described by Mb,
Lenthan, and is well known by nntig^uaiiea and
others as a perfect gem of its kind»
I never heard of another similar one, but
informed, on reliable authority, that there h» i
a copy of this print engraved by Charles Tiatok
but I have not seen anv of these- i
L. G. Starkie, Lt-Cot QX^B-VJ
Kuntroyal, Burnley, Lanca^iiire.
''Akima Christi" (4»*» S. rli. 35*Z> — 1
prayer is generally supposed to have been coa
posed by St Ignatius of Loyola. It has alw^a^
been a favourite with his society, and finds a p'*^
in all their books of devotion^; which wou]^
probably have been the case had it been 1
by St, Thomas of Aquin ; for the JesuitI
never been found to prefer the composlti
the Dominicans. In that well-known | ^
book, the Ctrkd^ Patrnditm, it is ciilled •* Bn
et pia Oratio S. Ignalii'*; but in the
C/f?Wt' Pahndmn, of which I have th * edition (
1704, the " Anima Christi *' is introduced as on*
" S. P. Ignatio olim familiaria." F. C. H
The Schoolmaster arhoad ys Staffob
suiBE (4^** 8. vii, 121, 180, SllO—To mj '♦Tl^
Lye Waste is a common," gives rather an intxi'
impression. It lats a common, a wa§ii) of ll
manor of the Foley family, as the name »tilj^*'>
plieSj but that wtt5 a great many years ago.
18 hardly any common or wa^te there now,^
is all covered with buildings, pita, and
all sorts, much of it freehold, acq^uijped
HOFKIKS states.
The place had begim to improve even st 1
date he mentions. The improvement is altOfll
wholly due to an excellent gentlenmn named llil
who many yeor^ afro built and MHiiiimd a churd
parsonage, and schtwls there. It had long
singularly happy in the character of the ^
bents of the church, two of whom were M?
own sons. . § Lrrria
Bagky, Stoarhridge, ^fiM0ed
EttCEE, I humbly opuie, is wrx^ng both in •
and locality, in affixing the blooding nf the *" f
to hia Lancashire neighbours. 1 heaid tli^ 'h.'
vears ago, fathered on the Black-country, fr >in tii*'
5ips of a distinguished R.A., and almost i)^- '
verhis. Furthermore, I have been cretlil
formed by a leading ironmaster of thrit -li.
Cimmerian prloom, that such is the
'' the dawff ■' hns taken upon the na'
and around Bilston^ that on one occa-
pi (man's wife had lost her child, shr
adopted her husband'** (or neigh bour'^) buli*pMjP
bereft of matenml solicitude, and aotnallv h<*T^"
suckled the interesting creatupe v
ciently advanced in life to maintin
and consequence, and in a futr wuy
its prowess the ilhistriousnesi of it^
the unusuallv tender care bestoih'ed on iu mai««J
4«^ s. TH. apbil 29, 7L] NOTES AND QUERIES.
375
Kud etalj education, I can Bear more thim one
of joiLT readers ejiclaiiD, **Credat Judaiis Apelkl '*
The Odb of ARTinrB Grey (4**' S. yil 207.)^
The chief point of cnieltv in Lady M. W. Mon-
taffu*B authorship of the above lay perhaps in her
liJTsbip'a intimate knowledge of the hard fate
of Mrs. (ttfternrarda Lady) Murray. Both ladies
liad frequented very much the eaoie circles of
■ociety* The heads of their familiea lield office in
tlie same department in tlie earliest adiuiuistratioDS
of George L
Mrs, Murray's tuaband used to introduce her to
rtoers ata ball, aod then threaten to kill her for
cing YTith them. At last it became absolutely
necefidary, from hia unreaaonable conduct, for his
wife to return to her father's house. It was under
theae circumstances that the rascally vnlet aa*
nulted her, and that Lady Mary wrote hei nggra-
Tftting ode, if not the coarse street ballad also.
In the ode she professes to gire, aa the result
of the footman's observadon of his nnstresa^s life,
a aeries of coarse amours. Lady ftfary descnbes
EflT friend as ring^ing in the morning for the foot-
maa to bring^ her tea into her bedroom. These
might he the fashions her ladyship was accus-
tomed to witoess amonfif her acquaintances, but
were probably most unlike those permitted in the
nearly Parilan household in which Jlrs. Murray
lived; and a whisper of scandiil never rested on
her name. *
It is true, indeed, that Mrs. Murray's family is
topp^ised to trace its orifrin to a race of king**i of
Scotland (the Balliole), who were not lucliy, Iler
gnmdfnther, Mr. Baillie of Jerviswood, was the
prutomarhr in Scotland of the short but i'lnn] re*
Vi-»lut ion which rid the country of the old Stuarts;
and even in song and jest the name has been gene-
Ully ualucky in England also. But was tfiat a
*«Won why Lady Mary should crucify her friend
tfith an ode or stab her with a bnUad ? The wit
WJd it? place on the list may perhaps justify or
exjvlniii ita retention, but its original offensireneaa
*^'^ its indecency miffhl exclude it. The editors
employed by a great publisher might scruple to
mterfcre with it, but perhaps a noble ^reat-grand-
^P, "^f tlte author might be more inclined to be
^^<^al for his relatives' aake. E. U.
J ^^i^i-osoPHicAL Nakedness (4**^ S. vii. 2o9.)—
«*"*^Ul(l refer your correapondent to Carlyle's
^^^** Mesnrtuif where society is repi-esented in a
BmM *^^ nudity in order to show the inQuence and
l^^^^tkiatic meaning of those frarinents in which
cent people have generally thought it necessary
iij^*^^^ themselves. In this work we have a pic-
!> J ^f ft naked duke addressing a naked House
ad**'*^' naked kings wrestling with naked carmen,
l^^^^ther vagaries of fancy, which will be ex-
^^^^ by the following remarks of the author :■ —
** C(vnFidering our present advanced 8tiit« of culture, ii .
tni^ht stiike the reflective mind with some surprise thata
hitherto liltle or nothing of a fundamental charactcr^^
whether in the wa^ of philosophy or histon*, has been
written on Iho subject of cloth e«. In all &pecu1ationBs,
man tia^ figured as a clothtd amrna!^ wliervas he is by
nature a n^ed anhna!^ and only in oertaifi circumstances
by purpose and device masks hlm^tlf in clothe*,*'
The author endeavours to show that the first
purpose of clothes was not warmth or decency,
but ornament. He introduces us to the aboriginal
savag^e, with his beard hunjr round him like a
matted cloak, and his body sheeted in its thick
natuml ftslL Hunger he satisfies by the chase,
warmth he finds among dry leaves or in the
hollow tiee, but for decoration he must have
clothes.
For another exponent of the literature of the
fig- leaf, I will turn to f^ome of Addison's papera
iu Th^ Ouardiaru In No. 100 he censures the
scantiness of female dress, and advises his fair
readers to ** imitate the inn<jcence and not the
nakeduess of their mother Eve," Nos. 116, 134,
140 also treat of bare necks and shoulders ; aiul
the propensity of the ladiea of that time to dis-
pense with clothing is appatent from the foUow-
ing: —
"In the beginning of tlie biat century, there wis J
sect of men among us who called themselves Adamites^
and appeared in. public withnut clothes. This heresy'!
may spring up in the other sex if we do not pot a UmL-ly \
stop to it, there being so many in all public places wh<y
show so great an inclination to be Evites/'
Julian Shaehak,
C. Fredericks Place, E.G.
Foolish nfitions of this sort were refuted long
ago by 8t. Thomas Aqjuinaa {obit. 1:274) in hiA
Podilii on Genesis^ cap. lii. v. 21. W. H. S.
E:ffOLlSH QUEKN BUBIED AT PoRTO FiNO (4^** S.
vii. 208.)— Isabel, daughter of King John, «md
wife of Friednch U., Emperor of Germany, died
at Fo^gia, r>ec. 1, 1241. Is she the *' English
queen '* concerning whom your correspondent in-
quires ? IlKBHEKTRtTDB,
Arabic NtrMEBAis ts Wells Cathedral (4*»»
S. vii. 282.) — The Rev. Alban Butler, in a note
to his Life of St. Teresa, Oct. 15^ mentions an
instance of the figures 1090 having been difl*_
covered in the window of a house in Colchester,!
part of which is a Roman wall; and another fronri
a chininey-piece in the parsonage of Ilelendon ia ]
Northamptonshire, where is inscribed ** JI"* 1H3/
being the date 1133. He aho states that Dr.
Waliis has proved that these figures were known ,
in England before 1160. They are seldom metl
with at the end of the thirteenth century, and veryl
T.irely in the fifteenth and even sixteenth.
At a meeting of the British Archreological Afl-
aociation, April 1, lt^4Q, Mr. AV right made some
376
KOTES AND QUERIES.
[4^kS,VlI.AFitiLl9,7L
called Arabic, r nr introduction to Pope
SylTester IL at inning of the eleventh
uenturj. In the notice in the Literary QtmUe
of the^e remarks exmnples of the earliest fbrou of
the&o figured ore given. (See lAtetanf OoMtU fof
AprU 4, 1846, p. 318.) F. C, H.
These are not very unco mm on in nieditoval
work. For examplea see the plate at the end of
Godwin's ArcJt^coto^id^s Handb^/k, I have lately
seen two at Fountains Abbey, and tivo in Kipon
Minster : —
1. Above the ere at west window of FoimtainB,
with rebus of Abnot Demtou. 1494.
2* In the interior arch of an east window in
the Lndy chapel at Fountaina, angel beaiing ecroU
with '' Anno Domini 1483/'
3, On miserere by dean's stall, Hipon Minster*
14^.
4. At the end of stalls near bishop's throne.
1494.
In aU these the 48 are made of a line doubled
and crossed likt? a figure 8 inconiplele at bottom.
I have examined hundreds of early beil-ingcrip-
tioHB, but do not remember any pro-reformation
Arabic figures in them. When dated^ which is
seldom the case, the date is expressed in numerals
or in words. J. T. F.
Hatfidd Rail, Durham.
^Chi thia Bubject, fiud in rep]^^ to ii aimilAr query, JA^
Builder for April 15 »ayi :■ — **\\ e know of nn»fl on «tone
earlier than tlie begmniug of the fifteenth century; the
dute 1415 in licatbfiuld Cburcb, Siusex, is an oxaropte
W6 have often quoted. The nunacrida occur iu MS& of
ih€ preceding century/']
Priory of St. ErnBiiKAiT (4*"* S. vii, 304.) —
If WiLPRiD OP Galway consults the preface to
The lUcords of tlm Pnoty of the I$U vf Mmf^ an
elegant little work, ably edited by* Dr. *John
Sttiart for the Society of Scottish Antiquaries in
1868, he will find amnle information as to its
transfer by the abbot ot Readio^ to the see of
St, Andrews. Abbot Robert de Burj^hgate seems
to have been the seller and Bisliop William
Wishart the purchaser. ANGto-ScOTiJS.
^ Sir Thomas Sewell (4^^ S. vii, 305.)— Robert
Sewell of Chatham, co. Kent, who«© will is dated
April G, lOliO, had by his wife Judith iyfo sons ;
the eldest^ John, a merchant in London, whose
will is dated July 2, 1002, had bj his wife Abi-
gail four sons ; of these sons the second, Thomas,
appears to have been afterwards the Right Hon.
Sir Thos. Sewell, Kt., Master of the Rolls, &c.
The RHOMBira Ajtd ScAHtra (4"> S. vi. 684; viL
132.) — There seems no doubt the rhombus is the
lurbot, but the scarus can hardly be the char^ as I
was taught at Eton that it wss a fish that chewed
its cud, as the cow. I apprehend it is a fish now
unknown. Eboracitk,
Bishop Mobdbcai Gary, 1731 (4*^ S. vii. 234.)
The following scrap of pedigree^ compiled chitfly
from particulars furnished by n member of tkiB
branch of the Carys, may pos^bly aupply « etoB
to the information sought by Y. S. M. ; —
John Cary, merohaat, of LoiDdoQ mm
Mordeeai Caiy, Bishop of Kitlila, diad llhl m {
Hetiry Cary (eWcst «oa) Archdeacon of Killak i
WlUiam Caiy (a Tonngw «on\ of Bewit, i
WofrcestBr =
^1
Eev, Henry Fratici;* Cirj' » , dia. <
(eldest «on), 'b«pti*cd Fran- OrmAby«E«q.,
cifl Ilonn'f this trauatator of
Dantt5.
Capt. Cao% of WcK>dluid Hoom, F. S. Oif^*
Leamlugton.
Wa* the John Gary who heads this list Idlft-
tical with John Cary who was buried at Put»»y,
1701, ffit D7P||^See Lysons' Enmrm9 of hsmim,
vi, 413^ and Aubrey^s Hidory of SurrefJ, vi. 12SJ.
R*Dntom
Exeter.
Hymn: *'Thb LAiCENTATiosr of a Six™"
(4*^ S. vii. 293,)— According to Round*
Book of PraUn thia hymn is by Mafdl» ;
the date 15C2. Part of it is given asa hviu&u
Htf^naa Aticieni and Modem,
Thos. Austct, Jof,
liitcbln.
^* TiS BETIKR TO HAVE LOVED UTD tOtt," Itt
(4"' S. vii, 30L)— " Magis gauderea quod hahaeai
famicuml, quam mcereres quod amiieriA^* —
Seneca, ipid, 99. This sentiment, upon wbick^
the philosopher enlarges in his usual styl#. Il f
more exact as well as an earlier antidpattdi r
Tenny8on*s lines than the quotati0Q from Cd
gr^ve. G. F. S. R. I
Lord Broughah anb his Collxos Fnxff^
0 (4^*' S. vii. 277.)-'The ston- at p. 201 rf
Lord Brmtgham^s At4obiography of an agressMl^
with bis college friend G Uiat which everdW
first ehould appear to the other, and the appa^
tion of the ghost of G consequent tb«roo%ii
certainly not new. In the Mimoirt^ du Oemii A
Rochefort (ed. Cologne. 1688, p. 410J a
compact is stated to have been mme b_
the Marquis de Hambouilldt, the eldest «tt of
the celebrated Marquise and the Marquis del^c^
The former (known only as the Marattii de FtaL
his father being aUre) predeoeaaed ut hmi, m
XL Ai'RiL29,7i.]
NOTES AJSD QUERIES.
3T7
I at tlie iMittle of Notdlingen in 1645, at
ars of age.
Author of the Memoir cs du Comte de Rovkc-
3 supposed to he Grntien de Courtilz, who,
euffeniig a lengthened imprifionment in the
a«w died in Pam, May 6, 1713.
. S, W, T,
feoGiukFHY tf* S, 711, 15^, 20L)— Ma.
iLoB made A midifike id hi^ crolutirin of the
lyptogntm gi^en by J. It. C. at t>. 155, and
ulj J> R. C. had also made a align t nuatake
r ermhoL The thizd lettar of the first wotd
I be symbolized hj 30 instead of 82, and
tbe whole sentence reada ** flangthe bearer,'*
aethod on which thia dpher is constructed
y inffenious, and sufficiently simple in work-
fnake it worth knowing. J. II. Ellis.
Mb, J. Bhals geta "Find the deceit " out
C/s last cryptogram is a mystery. Though
ia an error in the tirat word (28,' 19, 32, 21
printed for 28, ID, 30, 21), jet the meaning
10U9 from J. R, C.*a third equation — ^*' Hftug
Labchdsn.
to J. Bbix15*8 cryptogram ia —
A B C D M F O H
25 94 23 22 21 20 19 18,
/C; or, to put it in the form of an equatioD,
le-R
I I think he oTorlookathe essence of J.R, C/a
D. which 19, that the value of .r changea
lae of it and &, ao that in the case of
3, or of a letter occurring twice in a
, iue value of ,7 18 not the aamo each time,
Wdng away a great aid to any one trying to
her the cryptogram. I differ from J/Be.ilr
; (3) in J. II. C.*8 article, which I think is
:tly involred (with one exception), and means
ig the hearer/- The first word ahould be 28,
\ 21, instead of 28, 10, 32, 21. Will J. R. C.
a know if 1 am right ? P. R. H. P.
sr-DijLL IxscBirnoira (4^ S. vii* 250.) —
f me to add one to P* W. S.V sun-dial in-
iooa;—
On tf Clock at Pirn,
" Va«lo e ven^^o ogni ^orno ?
^U tu anclrai scnza ritorao/'
here ia thta common inacription onginally
Pereime, et imputantur ? *'
W. (1.)
ttBtow^lSsTBiOHOiEL (4»* S. viL 34, 2t)0.)
ia no difficulty in the explanation of theae
themselves, or in their application to the
looaHl^.
> Cam orfan names of placet are usually d&-
Tiatural features or phenomena of
id. At the embouchure of the
r iiepi^tow la «tuated| the tide nuhei
with great hnpetuositj through the narrow ei^
tranco of the nver, rising at the full and chsoge
of the moon not less than fifty feet Hence the
Cvmric name " Estrig-boewal, the rapid eddy or
wliirling tide, coiTupted into Strig-oil, Strognill,
&c\ The situation Deing a laTOurable one for
trade, nt the confluence of two navigable rirers,
the early English aettlera conferred on rt the
name of Ccap-stowe, modernised into Chepatow,
the market or place of trade* J. A. PiCTOjr.
Siindyknow*, WAvartree, aenr LivsrpoaU
The derivation of Strij/oiitmt from Strata Juiia
aeem.^ reasonable enougb, Conf, FriuH fxom
Fomm Juiii, The name may also l>e dtrived from
another appellation of the Wye, from the Celtic
t/ («) dwr (fQwtl^ the tronaparent or clear stream.
Conf, the ( Gaelic gtal^ white, fair, bright, dear.
Chepstow of course means simply market-place.
K. S. Chaehock,
Gray's Inn.
Dis-apiRiT (4'*' a vii. 186, 294.)— It ia remark-
able that while thinking to correct me Mr. J. H«
I. Oaklet did not observe that he was aayiDg
exactly the same thing, with a little more.
*' Pours out the spirit of the book into the
scholar," What, then, is pouring . oua thing
mio another but mfwiing it? Pouring mto one
thing oecaesiurily implying pouring om^ of another.
But now aa to the present meaning of the word :
when we say of any one that such or aneh a
thing dit'SpintM a person, or that he is ditpmUdf
do we mean that t«e spirit is poured mrt of him
into another, and that what he loses the other
gairu? I think not, but the rather as I have
already stated, the meaning ia "deprived of apirtV'
or, aa the dictionaries say, "to exhanst the spirita."
A amilar change is to do found in the word pre-'
vent — formerly to go before or to direct, now to
hinder or obstruct. EniitfHD Tew, M.A,
Patching Rectory, AnmdeL
BiPTisif FOR THE Deao fi'^ S, vii. 107, 263.)
If not intruding too mucn on the pages of
'' N. & Q.," perhapa the following extract from
Thomaa Oodwyn's Mottu and Aaron may be worth
citing : —
"* It may be deinsnded, what mtuner of Bapiimm this
wta? With sabmiesion of my jadgement, I undenCaiid
this pUco with S, Atithrot^ of a Saeramental watkim^,
■spmd unf^ " -r^ Vving man in the name and behalf of
his liriend, tt Baptismaft omt of a ^peirdtiooa
conceit, thn- anieot thus conferred to one alive,
in the name ui tht deceased, might be available for tha
other dying unfrnpti^ed. As if the Apostle did wound
those auperstitiaua Corinthiana with their ownc qall^and
prove the resurrection of the dead from their own erro-
n«cms practice i telling them in effect, that their taper-
stiliouA cuMome of baptiaing the living for the daad, ware
vaine and bootless, ir there were no lesnrreetloa. Aad
therefere the Apostle uaeth an empbatleal dittnetkm «/
tkepfr9ons, ia the next immcdiati viree, sayinj^, Why
are wa alao in jeopardy eveiy hour, be inferrctb the re-
surrection by force of a domtk argument^ tbe/relp diawAf
378
NOTES AND QUERIES.
item their supi^rstitioas hapHzatioH for the dead ; the
atamd, from the hourly jeopardy ftnd perill wherein wee,
that is, himself and other ChrUtians are. So ihnt^ as
that Father nottth, the Apostle dullii not hereby tjpprove
their doing, hut evinc^th their hope of the rc^urrecLEon
from their own practice, though erToneou.«i, That there
WM Vicarium ta/e bapiismx (as I'trtuU'uin Cffltpth it,
Remr. CumUy in use miion^ the Mamonite$y in evident,
yen oud among the Crriniltians abo {Kpiphan. dt Ccrtn-
ikianit hares, 2H) the manner thereof i^ thus deacxibed
(Chr}*BOSt. 1 Cor. 15): If hen any Coterhttminist dtedf »amc
Hrhtff per»on. placed tinder the hed of the dtceated^ the^
eaau unto the deceated party^ and asked him whether he
would be baptized f the}% he rrplyinff nuthinff, the party
wmfer the bed antwcred for him^ iuyiny^ that he would be
baptized i and thus they baptized him /or tJie dead^ om if
they acted a play upon the §Ujye" (P, 240| edit. London^
1C550
Cork,
Tire Bones ani> Coppm-i^AiLa of Robert
Bructfl (4^^ S. vii. '297,) — It ia tsiirely a '* fiict "
which hrtd been lx?tter left to ohlidnn, thnt in
1838 " the widow of the late Dr. (.Sregory^ uf
famous clftssical and medicftl itiemory," wag pos-
sessed of " the hone,<i and coiTin naila of Kobert
Bruce 'M But I think your esteemed correa-
pondent G. will for nnce apree with nie in think-
innr that such an imputation as thi,H, against the
memory of the eminent physician, cannot be trut*.
He who took such rehca as the bones of the hero
from their restinj^-pli».ce most have been a thief
for thievinp's sake. Let us hop(^ that the autben-
lidty of these same ** bones ^' ia on a par with
that of the rowelled **spur3'* traditiooally be-
lieved to bo those of the kin|r. but^ according to
Mr. Berxhabd Smith (l*^ 8. vi. 120), of a seven-
teenth century pattern I Such '* facta " must be
well Terified ^tor© adinisfiioD to the Index of
*■ X. & Q/' Anglo- ScoTtrs.
AtBJLNEir AN© Ahondeville (4"' S, Tii. 234,
312.)^ — Azure a fret or is quartered by the live-
dalea of Wickham for *^ Scui"e.=«,'* the fords of the
inr.nors of Xately Scuroa and of AYiekham, co.
Hants. John de Uvedale, K.«q. (son and heir of
Sir Thomas de U vedale), man'ied Sibillat only
daughter nnd lieiress of Sir John de Sciires^
Knight. The arms of the Uvedales will be found
blazoned in Bniortntiuid JIus&gIVq Ptadicat Manuat
of Heraldry, 18G4, p. 33.
Sir Edward firiilm of Bray broke and Din^ley^
CO, NoTtham, Knt., married Francea, one of the
daughters and coheirei^ses of Sir William Uvedi^le
tot Wickhnm. She died 10-59. A complete pedi-
pree of the Uvedales of Wickham will be tound
in the Surrey Arch. Soc, publications, vol. iii.
*' AVHExnER OK NO ** (4*»' S. vii. 142, 280,)—
The Bible also is in favour of no. See Eiiod. xvi.
4, and Deut. viii. 2,
With the Bible and Shakespeare ja its favour
"* phrase stacds exonerated from tbe cbargea of
being " slip-shod/' " aloreDly,'* and *^ ungram*
maticid." J* M. Cowpeb.
Ben Jonson, in bis Rrficrathn againd Vvkm^
telU US he wrote —
♦* A Grammar too,
To tench some that, their nuraes coaU out do;
The parity of language/*
And as hfi wns most careful of his own atyli
often revised his words and sentences, it
be amiss to supple men t the example* gif
R, M.with these which I have casuallT, and 1
out looking for them, come across : —
« Fuffare (a Indv"). I kno'if not trhether you reeciT«d i ^
o;. nity—Krery Afan intt of His Uumonr^ Act V. Sc 1^.
*' Kitehj (speaking sUwly and with delibenitifio).—
Hut, whether hia oath can bind him, ye*i* or no ;
Being not t^ken lawfuilv ? ha I say you ? " j
Every Man !n ^is Umnaitr, Act lit. Se.A.^
MouBNiNO, OB Black-ei)g:bd W^RrtDfO-rAPlR
{V'^ S. vil 209^ 309.) — Black wax no di>ubt <
into use at least as early as black- edged j
I have letters sealed in black by Ch« '
Bii^hop of Kill alee in 1721, and by Tho
Bishop of limerick ont^ l72o, with a non
to tlie Vico-Chaucellorship of tbe UmT^
Dublin, sealed in black by the great
Ormonde in February 1714-5. The latter mo;
been owin^j to Queen Anae*s deatb.
I have been fortunate enough to bit MpO(aiB
early reference to this article in Allan Haiiwr*'
poems, with which I am making acquaintanaii
the first time, and they are worth being H^
On p. 34, vol ii* of the edition, Ediubur^j>|
occurs tho following stanza: — •
" Thoii sable- bo rder'd sheet, begone,
lIflrl)our to thee 1 must refuse ;
Sure thou e4inftt welcome lind ifOTn notte,
^Vho carries such ungrateful ncw^"
The ** sable -bordered sheet'* eummoned
poet to attend the burial of a friend, and wa
use 150 vears ajro, for the next date in therolBBl*
is 1724;'
One of Max Miiller'a diacoyeriea socmiftntici'
pated in po^^e 37 : —
" O Daphne, sweeter than the dajim.
When rays glance on the height,
DiflFuring gladnejw oVr the lawn,
With strakes of rising light,'*
Lord Brotjoham and the Nrf^trmi^iii
Monument (4*'» S. vii. 277, 330. j—W
lady perseveringly colled ^ITr*. Nighi!
daughter (and coheiress indeed) of i
Earl Ferrars she is surely entitled to 1
Lady Elizabeth Nigbtingale i-^'
ILady Nigbtingnle died— at least so aaya *5i2!Si
tion on the monumtnt— Aug* 17, 17S4, tbereby "*
Ma. Picton's statement, j
tltf
lb
4<*S. TIL April 29, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
379
Tetbagoxal l^scRiprioiT (4*"* S. vii. 344,) —
[he words attached ta the letter E, in tlie in-
cription, ** Post ten ebras» lux," are from the Latia
fulgate of the Book of Job, xvii. 12: ** Xoctem
^itenint in diem, et post toiiebrm upero luccm.^^
Fbe other three sentences, I suspect, were coin-
09ed na ftppropriftte acconiimnliuents, pursuingr
he hopeful prospect opened bj the first .sentence
0 its dose, in secuie salvatioa, F. 0. Ih
, BuRFF OR BuRF (4^'' S. vii, 282,)— Tho original
ncAninp atid the local usage of tills word aa ftn
uniQence may perhaps be illu at ratted, if not
eached^ from the following words, which appear
D be congeners :■ — *' Baare^ the point, head^ or top
if a bill ; hirrarjh^ poiat^^d ; hrogh, the brenat or
leight? of mountain a ; hijijey^ hif^h, elevaled, emi-
lent;^jyr^fl^A,»hllrp-pointed/^ (Kelly's MiiiuDicL
[Jongla^, If^^i.) — ^' Barr, point, top, tip, end, ex-
remity, head ; hruthach^ an acclivity, ascent, a
leep, a hill-gide, a precipice." (McAlpine^a Gaelic
IkL Edinb. 18€G.)— **Bn|ip, tbe top, head, or
Riit of a thing ; ** bafipiui, the tops of nioim-
\ beajipah', the tops or clilTa of mountains,
>clcs; bnn.i^ac*! an a^ent, face of a hill"
OTveillv's IrUh DicL Dublin, 1817.)— Add to
liese, *' berg, mons, Ulphila?, bmrff . . » . Wach-
fcrtw bertf dictum putat a beEre, elevare/* (Ihre,
^hm. S^tioffotki'cttm, vol. i. coL 108, fol. Upi^d,
I'm,)— " Bar, culmen, lal/' (Junius, mpn. M.
hcan, 174:3, s. i\ ^^ Barrow.") But in Cleasby's
IctL Diet by Mr. Gudbrand Vigfu3*on <Oxfurd
^Jar. Preas, 1860, p, 00), ber^ iB s^id to have **a
pedal name: a rock, elevated rocky ground.''
x)mpare also berg Germ,, bjarrff Dan., and bnvph
kog,-Sax. (Somner*9 Diet) Halliwell, in hin IhcL
f Archaic mid Ptw. Words, gives '* bar/f a hiO.
rorkfhire."
From all these anthoritiea it seema reasonable
o infer that the word burffj bwf, or bnrf derives
b meaning of an eminence from the root bar
, which is found in so many languajrea,
mihii
Uy in those of the Celtic and Gaelic fami-
hi tie sense of top or head. E. A. D.
Sbillijjg^tone Hector}'.
Doubtless the same as the Lincolnshire word
^ used of a long low rid^e — e. ff. How sham
[', M e the rin gham Bartf. A tkinso o ( Clei\ Gloss, )
Naonect* it with barffh, barttghf baurf/h, berg^ &c,,
fc« gutturals being changed to Jf, as in thruff for
iirough, kc. J. T. R
ield HalJ, Durbam.
^ him (4^ S, vii. 323,)— The young lady who
fiites under tbe signature of Monte i>k Alto
Bttit not expect to find many llowora with em-
f^lematic significations attached to them. Indeed,
the exception of a few very obvious ones,
raa the lily, the rose, the nmaranthu?, «S:c., the
na given to flowers aie very arbitrary and
fanciful. The gorae is not at nil a likely shrub to
have any marked emblemaiical meaTiing ; nor do
I believe that any haj» ever been nfiixed to it. I
could agree with' the editor in the hint pfiven in
his note; but moved by a very dilFerent reason.
The prickly nature of the plant is a sufEcient
wftrniug to keep awav from contact with it : and
so far the gorae may be enibleuiaticftl of the con-
pet^uences of indulging, not what I could consci-
entiously call " a good old English custom,'* but
what I must stigmatise with a holy Father as
'* morsua diaholi," F. C. H,
Trench's Hur^Evw T^EcirREs (4^*" S. vii. 78,
198.) — Having noticed the inquiry as to " the
great poet of our mndern world/' and the quota-
tion frtim him made in *^ N. &: Q." according to
the reference, I am enabled to supply the informa*
tion from the original source. The Archbishop of
Dublin writes to me that '* the great poet is
Goethe, and the great passage ia at tbe opening
of his Fumty Fraxcis Trekch*
IsHp Uectoiy.
Brt^iMARCK AlTTTorPATEI* : '* StEWTNO m THEIR
OWN GRAvr '' {A^^ S. viL 187, 272.) —
** My father's ghost comes thro* tho door,
Though shut as sure m handj» can make it.
And lead?! me such a fearful raukc^
1 stew nil aif^ht in my own greaRC.'*
Cyttoa*8 Virgil Travtttk, p. 3j, 1807, Hth edition.
Louisa J tJLiA Normak.
I think T can give a closer parallel from Thomas
Fuller's ''life of Duke d'Alva^': —
** And lest tho niaiiitftining of gam*t:>ns might be hur-
dpujKjnae to the king his mrwier, he laid heavy iraposi-
lions on the people : tho duke nfHrming tliat these coun-
tries W€re,/"«j! entfugh to be gitu't-ii in thnr own iiqitor, ind
Ihat the soldiem here might he maintained by the profits
nrising hence. Yea, he boasted that he had found the
mines of Pern ia the Low Countries, thoti^rh tlie digging
of them never quitted the co^U*^—7'hr fivh/ State and
the Fmfam State, b3' Th08. Fuller, D.D. (London, W.
riekemiL', l^Ui\ p. 31) G.
T. W. C,
Mrs. Com ^4^" S. vii. 210.)— Mrs. Oom was a
lady well known to many persons still living for
her musical talents and many nccompli!*hment«.
She married secondly the liight Hon. Joseph
Planta, some years M. P. for Hastings.
Amicus.
TiTE Grkat Bkar A5d Summer Raotf^ill
(4*"* S. vii. 300.)— It would be sati^iifactory to
know what the '^ skilful old gardenefj a native of
Yorkshiie/* means by saying that " the Great
Bear is on ihi^ mde of the Isorth Pole."
W, M. She WELL.
Huntington.
The PftiORT OF Colddtgeam (4}*" S. Tii. 187,
3I1.)~I regret that I did not, as I intended, write
the present note on the appearance of the former
380
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4ths.vii. AwaLt9,7i.
notice in p. 187, as I might have saved some
etymological speculation in the latter (p. 311).
Canty's Bridge, near Berwick, a well-known an-
gling rendezvous by reason partly of a roadside
publichouse there situated, derlTes its name from
a former occupant of the said house, whose name,
if I mistake not, was Swan, but who was univer-
aaUr known as Canty (t. e, lively, cheerful^ Jamie-
son s Scot, Dictionary f tub voce). In fact to this day
the locality is most commonly mentioned without
the bridge altogether ; e, a. (schoolboy loquitw) :
"Where are vou going on Saturday, Jack?" '*0h,
out to Canty 8."
It is rather a curious coincidence that my in-
formation regarding Canty's Bridge was derived
from "a person of the name of jPilmore," men-
tioned by your correspondent J. M. P. E. N.
Gbbxav Etymologicax Dictiovabies (4^>> S.
vii. 803.) — There are two books that would suit
A Fobeiqner's purpose: Sanders* Worterhuch
der Deutschen Spracne, and Schwenck's Wdrter-
buck der Deuiachen Sprache, in Beziehung auf
Ahstammung tmd Begriffshildung, Frankfurt am
Main, Vierte Auflage. 1856, 8<>.
The former is a large work only known to me
by title, but the Handworterhuch by the same
author is not etymological. Schwenck^s is a
volume of 778 pages, of considerable merit, though
occasionidly rather crotchety.
For the information of Mr. Charnock I take
this opportunity to mention that the Stdo-Crothi-
cum 01 Ihrc means nothing else than Swedish, as
Ihre — ^the fans ct origo as regards Swedish ety-
molo^ — entertained the notion that the original
popuLition of Sweden consisted of the Suiones of
Tacitus with an admixture of Goths.
J. II. Ltjndgren.
PoDTT DE Vice (4*** S. vii. 255.) — In Johnson
and Walker's Dictionary I find " Point devim or
device (in one word). In its primary sense, work
performed by the needle ; and the term ;>otw^-
2ace is still familiar to every female : in a secondary
sense, point devise became applicable to whatever
was uncommonly exact, or constructed with the
nicety and precision of stitches made or devised
by the needle." P. A. L.
HoLCTJS LANATUS (4**» S. vH. 323.)— Mr. James
Britten inq\ures why this grass is called " York-
shire fog." He must be aware that the vrord fog
in Scotland, and in our northern counties, signi-
fies tnoss. May not then the Holcus lanaius, from
its soft woolly nature, have obtained the name of
fog, particularly in Yorkshire? In Ash's JOic-
tionary we find the name derived from the low
Latin fogagium, and he gives for its meaning
'^ after-grasB, not eaten in summer." F. C. H.
False QuAirrraES (4"» S. vii. 319.)— Allow
me to suggest to the author of the Lntm version
of Provincial Characteristics'' the sabstitatioD of
<' Et alios" for << Atque alios" in the last Btanza
of his translation. He would thus attaiii the
desirable uniformity of a false quantity in ereiy
stanza, whereas at present the distinction has been
conferred upon the first three only. A " Scholar"
who could be guilty of '' semper audax." '' proee«
quitur," and '' inhiat," might very well have given
us '' et alios," or '' at ubi. Is there no such thing
as a Gradus in all Dublin P
Of certain eccentricities of rendering, which it
might not require a •' lynx-eyed critic " to dis-
cover, I desire to sa^ nothing. The rendeniv
" ex decies novies " wr " nine out of ten times
will be readily accepted by your readers, if for no
other reason, at least on the score of novelty.
C. S. J., M.A. Oxoj.
The gentleman who ugns himself '* A. B., Ex-
Scholar, Trin. CoU. Dublin," should look at his
Latin verses again, and send to '* N. & Q." an
amended copy.
1. In the second line, the second syllable of
"semper" is short, e. g. "Semper ego auditor
tautum" (Juv. Sat, i. 1. 1). It may stand if
altered thus : " Audax, nee semper,'' &c.
2. In line three, *!ferocit" is scarcely claaaicaL
8. In the fourth line occurs " prosapiam," whoie
second syllable is always given as long, e. g.—
" Quit! peccatorum prosfipia corpore in illo."
Prodent. in Apotk., v. IWfc
4. In the seventh lino the writer makes the
second syllable of " prosequitur " long, but it ii
short, c. g. : —
** Prosuquitur surgens a puppi ventus enntes." j
ViRG..^£».3,lS0.
5. In the lost line it is too great a licence to j
make the last syllable of "videat" long, befow
" occupat."
The tutors of Trin. Coll., Dublin, would new
pass over four false Quantities in sixteen linea, nor
would an A.B. of that distinguished college be
likely to make them, and therefore most probtUj
the copy is incorrect. E. A. D*
NOTES ON BOOKS. ETC.
JFiOulmi MalmeshlrienBts Monachi Dt Gestit ^<*^^
Angbntm Libri Quinque, Edited from the Atttoj^
Manuscript by N. £. ». A. Hamilton.
Historic and Municipal Documents of Ireland^ A J). Uj
1320, from the Archives of the City qf i>»AM*
Edited by J. T. GUbcrt, F.a A., Secretary of the Pw**
Record Office of Ireland.
These two new volumes of the importmt jg***
« Chronidee and Memorials of Great Britain and Iiii*'
during the Middle Ag«s" now In conrse rf poMfcW"
, ArRiL29,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
381
lireeiion of the Mait^ of the Kolte, diS«riiig
tber do in acope ud object, are yet alike in
Llie'fttroog claim tbey put forth to public
t. The fltst, not oolj on the ground that it is
i one of the moat tnutworthy of oar English
I, Waiiam of Ifalnflabary, and that it is the
of the earlj occiflsiaatical history of England,
n to A.D. U22f on vblch aJI 'writeiB have
) bnt fbrther beeanae, havinf^ hitherto been
a rery inaceiirato and muatiafnctory manner,
mt forth with great care and jiidji^ent by Mr.
EamiltoD, and that from a MS, w^ch he showa
for bdieyinf to have been the anlhor^a auto-
to ooQtain hia latest additicna and amend'
the good icrvice which the editor bajs rendered
|aI atodenta by its publication, it ia needless to
has been done up to the present time to throw
i the history of the nianidpul, middle, and
Bsea in Ireland in connection with the rule of I
I the twelAh and four following centuries, that |
like Mr, Gil berths will b^; sure to iind a rciidy
It contains a series r»f docHmcnt'J from a.d. ,
1, 1320, msinir connected with North Leinster, I
iodudlog Dublin and Droghcda, ccnstitntcd i
loo of tbe Anglo-Normnn flctilement in
Docnmenti hare beea widely diaperaed
I7 far to Bcek — and the notice of their I
of depofit are by no means the least I
11 of Mr. Gilbert's 'introduction — and if '
ly of them present great diSicultieA firora
during tlie early petioda in oontracted
law French, replete with archaic techni-
1^ obsolete, still tbe search and labour
asted, since they have prodnced a rotame
Luch light upon a condition of society in
Ids as yet scarcely anj^hing is known*
llBCEiVRn.—/?rtii wit »««<?« 0/ Sir Waiter ScQtL
~" 10, Writer to the Signet. (A. d: C. Black.)
Eng little vol urn e» in whidi Mr. Gibson*
tlie lawj^er of Sir Walter in 1822, and was
I adviser through all his pecuniary diflicul-
his recollections of him, and in so doing
our sympathy and respect for tbe great novelist.
Jtwn to AnffUra, or " The Practical Analer'* and
lodent Practical Anfflcr " compared. By W, C.
(A. & C. Black.) Mr, Stewart, tbe author of
\cticai Angler, ivho fcela aggrieved at Mr. Pen-
-" > imiUtioQ of bii title, baa written this little
Int out that the similarity id the two books is
tbe title-page, as do two systems of flv-flsbing
I more distinct than those recommendea by Mr*
and himself.
rmxxT TO THE Socmr.^A marble monument by
bnled sculptor, SarncelH, is shortly to be ertcte^l
DA in memory of Lacliua and Faust us Sooinus,
re natives of that Italian city. This tribute has
of a religious morement about it : it ia an honour
talinn noblemen, who were distinguished for their
\ and virtncii. The Catholics of the municipality
a have contributed 40/. toward* the expense. The
lied at Zurich, in Switzerlantl, and are believed
been buried in the cathedral there, but the pre-
; is nnknown*
H or Mr. HALKiTT or tjik Advocates'
IT, EDIVBI7IIGH. — Not only the private friends of
wmplisbed (cholar, but aQ atudcnti* of bibljo-
hare sustained a great loss by his death, which
loe Inst week* Ha was engaced at tbe time in
culean task of preparing a pnnted Catalogue of
the two hundred thousand volumes under his charge;
and bad made con-niderable progrrctss with a Dictionary
of Anoaymoas and Pfieudonrmoua Books, &c., which it
is to be hoped will not be lost to the world. Mr. Ualkett
was an ooeasional oontribotor to these pages, and wo
have received several warm tributes to nls unvarying
courtesy, which was no leia remarkable than his great
attainments.
In our obituary we have to notice the death of Mr.
James Whiting, a gentleman onoe well known m tlw
printing profession. Ho died at Taunton on tbe 10th of
this moQtb, at tbe ripe old age of nlnety^fonr. TTi!i name
will be remembered by many in connection with The
Atlaa ncwspaper^-tt Journal that in lU time wai moat
popular and succeaaftil. He was an elder liveryman of
the Stationers* Company,
Tfloax who have just read tbe article a few pages for-
ward {ante^ p. 370) will hear with surprise and regret
that the writer, Mil. Henry F. Holt, whose name must
be familiar t^ tbem in connection with Tfte Block Bookt^
The Fairford Hindjurt, &c,, died on the 16th instant.
Mb. UutT, who was an enthusiastic admirer of Albert
Durer, is understood to have made lar^e collections for a
new biography of that remarkable artist.
At a sale of old silver plate which occurred last week
by Mr, Frayborg, at the Bdgrave Attctkm Mart, two re-
markable old Saxon cnpa of carved wood, embedded in
silvert height aboot 10 IncheBt with bandies and base of
silver, of a very early date, reaUaed 82/.
Some fine specimens of Bristol china were sold during
the past week at the Booms of MeisrSp Sothoby, Wilkin-
son, and Hodjife. 'There were twenty-seven lots, which
produced in the n^^regate 1,052/. H«. ; of which a tea-
pot given to Mr». Burke, the wife of the great orator and
stateamaDt brought 190/,, and a milk-jug of the same
fabric 116/. respectively.
London and Middlssex AnofCJROLOOtOAL Soctrrr.
A general meeting of the society wHI be held at the hall
of the Leathersellers* Company, 8t. Helen's Place, on
Thursday, May 4, when the following papera will be
read :— ^ Remarks upon the Charters, Records, and His-
torv of the LeatherBcUcrs' Company," by W. H, Black,
Esq*! "The Hospital of Le Papey, Bishopsgate,'* by
Rev. T, Hago. Numerous drawinga, prints, Ac, of
Lcathersellers* HsU and the ndghbonrbood, will l»e ex-
hibited by J, K. Gardner, Esq. The society will then
proceed to the church of St. Andrew Undershaft, when
the following pniwrs will be read :— •* A brief Notice of
the ceb'brati'd pointer, Hans Ilolbeio, as a pari«ihioner of
St. Andrew^s Undcrshaft," by W. U. Black, Esq. : " Re-
marks n|ion the Records of the Church,*' by W.H. Overall,
Esq. From thence the society will pro to the church of
St. Peter's, Comhill, where tb*' r ' ■ B«v. R. Whit-
tington, M.A., will make rci the history of
the church and the archives of l ^ '.
The British Museum will be closed from May 1 to 7
inclusive*
Literary Inteluoence. — Engb'sh life and charaC'
ters have fumislml many interesting subjects of discu*-
sion to (ierman Essavists recently— Dickens, Bulwer,
BiTon, Thackerav, Walter Scott, the Princes? Charlotte,
Turner, Stuart Mill. Carlyle, DTsraeli, Cobdcn, Ix»rd Pal-
meiBtoni have stimulated German gravitv and thorough-
ness to mora than ujcual liveliness in dealing with s^ubjects
living and acting in a land agitated fftr more titan most
countries by theconiliotinp currents of ptibtic lifVandeai^r
discussion/ Julian Schmidt and Fredrkh AUhans have
thus distinguished tbemsdvM in some new volumes of
Charakterbtldtr*
Saue of Music by tmk great Composers at Ox-
FOHD,.^\Ve usderstand that a verv choke and exleDsive
collection of music of the higheatdaas, embmeinj^ many
OpcruB, ADthem^ Ac, by the first Enfrliah and f oreij^ii
Mftfiter?* with some musk* and songs by Tom D*Urfey,
will ahoilly be brought to the hammer by La^cock of
Oxford, whose shop in the Hi^h Street ia well known to
(be bibliomane,
Mb. R. CARRUTHFJ13 OF IsvKiMiitaa.— Thc Senatui
of tb« University of Edinburgh baa resolved to b<rat(»w
the degree of LL,D- on Mr. Robert CarrutUersj of the In-
verness Courier, in recogniUon of his knowIeitgL' of and
ecrvice« to English iltcrature. So aaya ^Tfit Scotchmant
to which we venture to «dd that no degree was ever
better deserved.
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T. E. (Durham.) The late»t and mttst c*yndenMcd ac-
count of Praxiteles and hi$ w^rht wilt be fonnd in Dr.
^'miW« Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography, f. v.
** Praxitele*,**' 'We Cannot trace Bonptantvt a* a sculp-
tor.
A. S,— 0« watchinq in the church porch on the Eve of
SL Mark, see ** N. & Q," !•* S. iv, 17U.
EsPEDARE. — In tyjie.
P. v.-— Has our Carrtspomtent seen the MS. colUctions
of the late Mr. O. Smith in the British Mnseum ?
Mr, Huisett Smtth*$ address is 36, Siiho SquarCf
Lfmdon.
BepUeM to other Correspondents in tmr nejrt.
Errata. — 4*^ S. viL p. 330, colJi. Itne 2, for ** Fr^icr **
rend** Eraser " [ p. 3|4, col. i. line lU from bottom, for
'* mandarins " read " murderers/'
i0» /br -'"■'-- -' ^■' '•■ -' ..* ,^:^-„> /.- i...,,.,,,ffgf.
tMtlf in.
the
7fi
6iiT
*tKtie/iU. id.).
S^omeratt Htfusf f
WKLLDfOTOjr STUJ.K
&TiUJi"D^ ^> .L
TIT H. AYLOTT 1ms in tho Press a Cat&logue of
ff • Tcry iBtere-lingSECOND-irAND BOOKS, eaofUtiDir of rue
Work* Id MB. relUingrtu tlic CSty of LuncLin,«jnd nlm Prinfod Works
In BioicTADhv« Comtnon Praier RevlaicHi, Greek *tid Hebrew History,
Letlerf of Emineal Fenon*, Sciencei Tbt-oloiry, TopoaraiDiyi Voy-
■iee«»aa,
htMOmt W. B. ATIiOTT. Bookiencr. 97. St. VnuVt Hoiul, Iillnfftoa.
K.E4— Eftrly •.pi^Ucs^tEon tor the C«taU>giM: will ubltipe.
FtUowofthe RtiTal I'riUew vf Phr«lrl«aK Phyikiia
Vital Theories and Holigious Tlioi
With Wirt Calmircd Plain, iilnatnalna the ArraiueiiieBl
Mutter ill tb« Tutwn vf Urln;i lk(n«*.
Nuw rtftdy, i4 PUi(c9 UA coloured^, fU, Sif*
Disease Germa. Their real Nature.
An nricto*! InTCatlsAthm wlUi tbe Aid of tlM
Entmice of DUmm Qm
Bkipttfin aad tt« DeendoKloii.
DiMAM Otiimi in lluidi a&it m
ttoiu.
Nature Afid OHglQ of tho GontaeUNM DImm OdOA
S* T1U« work dbetiMS Um fklhology of C«ttlA<$ua> M
Now reuly. Coloured FUtci, a*. 6i7,
Disease Oerms. Their eupposed Hi
An OrijriT»iil lTiTptiiif«ttitnt witb Xew Dmriti<;«,
ianaatiipt uf Ve^'tiiblc Citfniu.
Of « derm. I ^rdntano^pf Orarntt
Ovnna in thi Air. Germ* ir» the Ti
••• Comnlahkf CHtlesl Remvki on Dr. TyndmU'f *D«ril
Socond fUirtloo. rery mtusli catvg«d.S*. Stf, a (klkmstA ]
Life, Matter, and Mind ; or Protopl
with Oriiefiml ntM-rvationa on Hlouia Stnicturv wmt
••• Thii work i« partly ortftn^l sod pvtir contnrttnl
Thlnl Edition, »*. Nutn«rou4 lHuitimG.iKtc.
On Kidney Diseases, Urinary Dep
and Calculous Disorders ;
TncJutUn^ ihn Symplnntf. DlMti^ods. itid TrMlBMat 4
DikOiMc^, With r^itt liirt^ioti* fbr tl>tCheink»l saafll
oil AnAlykii of thti Unae In Health ftitd DUeft«« ^
The Plates separately, 415 figures, 12s* The
pp. 600, 15s.
Fourlb ThotHOQd, 16*, Flfty-elcKt Plst««.
The Use of the Microscope in Pra<
Medicine,
For PmctiUotieri mhI 5tnd«uii lu MedJclne. Much
On Diseases of the Idver and their f
ment.
A Stcand Edition, niach enT«rf«d. of ttie AttUuw'i WmA
AQftWnaj oTlhe Liver. Numewua FlAtei* LPartirf
London; JOUN CnL^RCQlLL a SOXS.
Setenth ThooMiid, <aotb tU. Servntr Flnltt. I
How to Work with the Miorosoopai
Thij work
cittiUEni full iW
npk'tc I
if many new unu
wit^i (lircctlrMit for cxamluluir obj«cU tmtier the ilgtMit
for Lakin^; i>liotoi;raij]u.
•,' All the^e IForks contain the r,^th* nttkt A\
orifjinal investigations, Thejf are /' ll
of 2,0(iQ Kngracinm, copied frt*m i <
uhich have been drawn on wood by th ■*
under his immediate super intefident&, Ji i
are Coloured.
ri. Mat 6, •71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
asa
LOKOOS^ SA TORns T, MAJ «, 1871.
CONTENTS.— N" 175.
^ TypogTRphlcal Brron inthe'^Ftcne Queen e."
lortoBii Lines omiltod from "CJotnui/* »H4- The
Elli*1x^tli Howard or Talbot? /6, — Mimsoleuiii
1 Unnrkullce, 383 — Uogiirth's Print of Lord
Mcinori&l Ver»e« — Burns — ► Ayrcs. Surnanii^—
I "After ooq": '* Stoor " — Generation u within
temorj — Untutored Crilioitm — M&oor Houses of
ibbire. 385.
h — Btiifford of BTitlicrwIck, Grotton, Sudbarr.
— B»llad w»nted — Bell-ringinf?, A^. — Bedi-
IT Cb arches — The Earl of D«rby — George Ed-
|*D. 1545 — Epigntin by Sairupt llnffnrs — *'Foi*s
*• ft Satire — Dr, Win, Ring — LonI Kin teuton and
— Lfne» on N&tbomiittcs — MaitlrnwoH, near
> If anuscript Poem «• Ueovlli or M«niiil« — Ferli'-
f Foundi5r»' Kin — Pla(»rd — Portrait of Chi«f
frd — Prajer* for tbo Detd — Purop* — *' Tiio Maid
■'—Old Scotch Newspapcfs—** Streak of Siircr
PoKtiih Venrificftltou, SSiT.
;— Tho C^ — -lot: ,. r.f *t Paul's, 3»0 — Gaina-
'■ " Blue 1 does % newly Boro
?8M-~1' r of Ijondon, /ft, —
urd*rt-i>, oi-m — f "i. ' **' * Inida — A
J^cbkr — Frencb WeMi' up — The
-don " In the Wtald of \ rlairvs of
—Old Bongs tuid ii*..-*.:,— lAuritfpr
— "The Sun nerer «ett on ib« Britiah Do-
— Ombre : Boston — ** Ueart of H eart » *' :
Lf«hte *' — Beniarkable Altar Slab—** La Belin
Mcrtii "^ — A Toadiione Ring— Bun-diul Queries
■ID Jttt, 8umaia Injuria" — "The Uevilbcata
— Arms of Charlemagne — •* Certosizin " — More
"" » Druid, Ac, 397*
«Iftf!tf.
graphical errors in the "faekie
qukene;*
he Introduction to my Slmkespeare'^xpost'-
look wliich I will presume to be in the
ff every student of our elder poetry — I
iToct^d sereral errors in this poem,' and,
benefit of future editors, 1 will here cor-
remaining errors in that poem — the proofs
I the poet fleems to have read most negU-
if lie read them at till r for the errorg,
b most glaring ones in the first edition of
I part, are nearly all to be found in the
I make th^ followinjf corrections ; —
ytim great t>Miioii of an won ted lust,
f wonted fear of doing o tight amiss/' — L U ^^*
have in "Or/* I think, an instance of
II eontadon of or and and. See mj final
Miltcm'a Sam, AgomMes.
told her all that Ml in journey 09 jibe went.'^
i. 3, 32.
her" we should probably read Aim, m
1^ is not unusual ; or we might rt>ad ^'all
tr fierce aenraut fWl of kingly awe "—I, 8» iX.
Bbould be Bid,
p of green Selhii» all alone"— i. 7, 32.
f» which has baffled all the critics, is
hut a printer's blunder for Ojllertm. So
in Chancer*s KnigU's Tah we hav® ^ Setheron"
for Ciftherofu This is a proof of the enl of read-
ing by the eye only : for had any critic read the
passage out, he would probably have been struck
Dy tbe similarity of sound in Selinis and Cyllenus,
" That manv errant knights have foul fordone/^
ii. 1, 51.
** Have " should be hatk
•* Inflamed was to foUi>w bej»uty*a chiiio."— li. 2, 7.
As the rimes are dtty^ may^ dismm/, tbe poet's
word must have been r«y, not ** chase*" See i* 2,
38; iii. 8, 22.
** And recoraijcnsed them with a better scorse/'
ii 9, &5.
**Them** should be him.
*' For 00, no usual fife, no usual rage." — iii. 2, 37.
Perhaps the first "no" should be know,
** Or other ghastly apectaclo dismayed.**— iii. 3, 50*
We should perhaps read of, or " iy other."
*' And coming to tbe place where all in gore/*
iii. 4» 84.
Perbaps tbe poet wrote comen.
** Iq that same garden all the goodly awwers**'
lit 6, So.
Fr&inj not ** In," is the proper word.
** Or sent into the chiingeful world again.**— iU* 6> 83,
Here again we have " Or *^ for And,
" Few triokling tears she softly forth let fall,"— iH, 7» 0.
Perbapa, aa the next line seema to intimate,
** Few*' should be T^vo.
" Who lovers will deceive,**— iiL 9, 31.
** Who " should be llltonK
« That raadest many ladies dear lament/*— iii. 9, 85*
For '* madest^' we ehould probably read madew*
♦* There a huge heap of alngulfa did oppress."
For "singulfs" we might read nngtdU.
** Then virtue's might, and value'a coniidence/'
iiL n, 14.
I would read valat*r*8 for '* value's."
" Boar* in bis boasted fan, or Iris bright,
Wbeu her discoloured bow ah© spreads through
heaven higbt/' — iiK II, 47,
In the last line we should read "beaTen^a
hifffUt*' as in iL 10, 2, and elsewhere.
** And fading vital powers gan to fade,"— ill. 12, 21.
Hero ** fading" should probably he failing,
** Dewed with her dropa of bouutv sovereign.**
iv. 8, 88.
For ** ber *' it migbt be better to read th$,
" So did the other knights and squires which him did
see.**- iv. 9. 11.
We should read them for "him."
** In wWch he found great store of hoarded tTes4»f«.'*
lv.8. 12.
<'ne**abouldbe«%.
*i*
384
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*i>S.YII.Mat6^71.
** The Qe, the Were, the Giumt, the Store, the Rowne/*
iv. 11,84.
We should read Grant or OrawU.
** For wight against his power themselves to rear."
V. 2, 24.
We should, of course^ read wights.
** And all men sought their own, and none no more."
V. 1, 8.
Perhaps we should read ''no one more."
** And now the knights, being arrived near.
Did beat npon the gates to enter in :
And at the porter, scorning them so few.'* — v. 4, 37.
Here, either "near" or "few" must be wrong.
Church reads new for " near/' and new seems to
be used in the sense of close in i. 6, 38, and iv.
1, 38. We might also, for " so few," read to fear
ox to hear.
** Bot took her steed, and thereon moanting light."
v. 6, 36.
iSlE> would seem better than " But."
** The rascal many soon they overthrew."— v. 11, 59.
"They "should be /itf.
" Whose every act and deed that he'did say." — vi. 2, 8.
The edition of 1609 reads " deed and word."
In my Shakespeare-Expositor (p. 52) I have
shown that, in iii. 12, 42, '* found delayed " sbould
be " found allayed," and have explained the cause
of the error. The very same error occurs in —
'* A gentle spirit that lightlv did dday
Hot Titan's beams."— ProfAafamtVm, v. 4.
These fully, I think, justify my correction of
"tw//Mr'<? brims" for "twilled brims" in The
lempest, iv. 1.
As I here conclude my remarks on the Faerie
Queene, I beg to remind the reader that he will
find two other articles* on it in 4»'» S. iv. 169, 211,
and to advise him to read what 1 have written on
the " Life of Spenser " in Frasers Magazine.
Here then 1 conclude my self-imposed and, 1 hope,
not q[uite useless task of emending and explain-
ing where necessary the texts of our three greatest
poets. To these I have added (in '' N. & Q.")
J3en Jonson and others ; and 1 have by me copies
of Bell's Chaucer^ Gifford's Massinger, and Dyce's
Beaumont and Fletcher, in which I have corrected
the metre throughout and the sense when neces-
pary. These I hope will come into the hands of
those who will make a right use of them, and
give me any credit I may seem to deserve. My
literary life has now nearly reached its close : for
owing to the decay of the two noblest of the
senses, reading and writing are to me now almost
irksome acts, and conversation is gradually be-
• In the article on the *' Irish Rivers " I have given
Gold River as the translation of Grown ; but I find that,
Oir is the Irish for furze — a plant which probably grew
abundantly on the banks of the Dodder, especially in
the upper part of its course.
coming the same. Still, being free from diieaae
and pain, I bear up cheerfully, aayiiig with
Horace —
- Domrn, sed levins fit patientia,
Quicqnid oorrigere est nefiss,*'
and with Malherbe —
** Yonloir ce que Diea veut est la seule sdence
Qui noos met en repos.*'
Tho8. Kbightut.
FOUKTEEN LINES OMITTED FROM «* COMUS."
A mighty fuss was made the other day aboot
some m^ocre verses which certain people thought
might poesiblybe Milton's, and over the discoveiy
of which there was a wonderful flourish of trum-
pets. I beg to call the attention of these gentle-
men to fourteen noble lines, undoubtedly the
composition of the illustrious poet, which hm
been in print for nearly seventy years, but which
were certainly unknown to Sir Efferton Biydm
and Dr. Mitford, and to all the other recent edi-
tors of the poet's works. They are found in the
original MS. of the glorious masque of ConmL
and follow after the first four lines, as uintod
below. In the MS. they are crossed through with
a pen, evidenUy to point out that they were to
be omitted in the representation. The openiog
speech, even after this excision, is inconvenioitly
long for the stage. F. CuNNiireHUi.
<* CbmKS, a Meuque.
" Before the sUrry threshold of Jove's court
My mansion is, where those immortal shapes
Of bright aeriid spirits live insphered
In regions mUd of calm and serene air,
Amidst th* Hesperian gardens, on whose banks
Bedewed with nectar an^ celestial songs.
Eternal roses grow, and hyacinth,
And fruits of golden rind, on whose fair tree
The scaly-harnessed dragon ever keeps
His unenchanted eye : around the verge
And sacred limits of this blissful isle.
The jealous Ocean, that old river, winds
His far-extended arms, till with steep fall
Half his waste flood the wild Atlantic fills,
And hal^the slow unfathomed Stygian pool.
But soft, I was not sent to court your wonder
With distant worlds, and strange removA dimes.
Yet thence I come, and oft from thence behold
Above the smoke and stir of this dim spot.
Which men call Earth, &c^ &c."
THE WILL OF ELIZABETH HOWARD OB
TALBOT ?
In the Testamenta Vetuda, p. 483, is the wil[»
Elizabeth, Duchess of Norfolk, said to be "^^
third will made after her husband becsme Dn^
of Norfolk " ; t. e. Thomas Howard, second d«»
of that family. Should this not be, oris it J*
the will of Elizabeth Talbot, daughter of Jg^
first Earl of Shrewsbury, by hi$ 9§oomd mtarnffi
and widow of John Mowbray, last Duke rf j^^
A^ S. TH. May 6. 71.]
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
385
I
folk of that Hue, ob. 1475 ? Her only cMld Ann,
contracted to Richard Duke of York, son of Ed-
ward IV., died very young, and thus the Howards
C&me in.
In thia wiU she desires " to be buried in the
Nuns Quire of the Minories without Aldgato in
London^ nigh unto the place where Anne Mont-
gomtjrv is buried ; *' and one of her executors ia
** Mr. John Talbot, Doctor of Phvsick.'*
In the will of " Vmfrav Talbott, Knight, Jlar-
clial of the towne of Calia," proved Nov. 11,
14JW:—
«*Um. I bequfith my place it Loudon stondyng in
'\ oi Shbinct Amlrcwe with the t«nntcieji there-
:\ng to be amortevsid to the thurch of Saint
:;erw< to baue an honest presto to pray for the
• ul roy lord my fader* my lad)* my mmler, and for the
. ; Ue of my body, my sustcr Etuuibetb duches n( Nort h-
i,ik, and for the aotile of John Wenlok and Elizabeth hia
wife, and for mv soale and for the soule of Jane my wife
ppeiually to endure.**
In the will of " Dame Jane Talbott, widowe,
late the wif of S' Ilumfrey Talbott, Knyght/'
datedJan. 10, ]504!—
♦♦ My body t4.i he baricd w* in the inner choer of the
fihoTche of the Mynories w* oute A%ate of London nygh
the place aad sepulture where the bodye of Maistrei
Anne MoDg^omery. late the wif of John Mongomery,
^ [uycr, restithfi and y» buried w* in the same qnere/*
And also—
♦^ And in lykewise I bequoth vnto M'' Johfi Talbott*
^0010* of phisike, for tenne of his Ivfe |fcc!t of the said
Untl nnd other the p'sLiases to the yerely value of
jij < 3iiij* iiijo,
"And of vj wore inrca to be taken owte of tb« vj c,
mrcs aboue rehenid ther may bee provided a convenyent
r.fit-j-At \*v the discrcK^on of the said cxecuto" to synjj
; r the soule of me and of my husband S^ Flura-
:l, and for Ihe soulefl of John Champcmoti nnd
( 1 ' ii<Kih bis wif my fader and moder, and for the aoule*
1 jjiy nuter lady Blaunche Wiilouf^bby, davgbf^ vnto
! be said John and Elizabeth, and for all theire chllderfi
^Kilea, and for the noule of my lady Elizabeth duchess of
KoriL whan it shall pleaae God to call her owte of thia
WovkL And in hir Ivfe to pray for fair noble and pTos-
yai'iillt aatate, and afso for the' soules of the ri^bt noble
torde John erle of $hrousbur\% and of the lady Bdari^arete
lu« wtffe beyng fader and moder vnto the said Elizabeth
<iiid»c4a of Norff, and vnto the said S"" Humfrey, and for
the loalw of all tbeire chitdeni."
the duchem ia one of the executors,
I hope I have not been too copious in my ex-
tiftota, out I thought the error ought to be cor-
l^^tedf and I think the most fitting pln^e ia in
^N.&Q.'* G. J.H.
MAUSOLEUM AND TOWN UNARKULLEE.*
'*Aootlicr remarkable building: south of the city, and
veineau it and the river, ii the tomb of An^-KalU, as
^Wl, ronceminE^ which is the following popular story :
Ai>4r-KaJli (Anirgul, probably, or the pome/i;ranate bloe*
•ftcn) was a rery handiome youth, and the favourite
* Two tiiil« louth-west fhim L4hor.
rJ«lui Walker.
Map of the Sikh
HoGiJiTH*fl Priht op Lord Lovat, — ^Trusler
fyid others in describing this print tell us that it
represents him ** in the act of counting the rebel
forces with his fingers " — an occupation, it alwayt
seemed to me, quite at variance with the expres-
sion of the face, which is rather that of a man tell-
ing a good story. This latter view is home out
* Mnntakhab Ai-LubdhM KUm KhAn (Persiia tesl\
P^asa.
t Maaaon*» Bd/or Ki«t<in, \. \\%,
I
attendant of an emperor of Hindustan. When the pnnce
would be in jcompany with the ladies of his biram, the
favourite page was not excluded. It happened that one
day the emperor, seated with bis females in an apart-
ment lined with lookinj^-^tasses, beheld from the re-
flected appearance of Anar-Kalli, who stood behind him,
that he smiled. The monarches construction of the intent
of the smile proved melancholy to the amiler, who was
ordered to be buricil alive* An&r-Kalli waa acooidiogly
placed In an np right position at the appointed spot, and
wa» built around with bricks, while an Immense super-
structure was raised over the sepulchre, the expense of
which was defrayed, as tradition relates, by the sale of
one of his bangles."— JoMrneyji in BdlochUidnt Aftfktini^
tan^ and the FanJ-dbf by VharUs MatMon^ E^q^^ 1842,
i. 413.
The Emperor Jahdn-gir having died at the end
of Safar, a.h. 1037 (A.n. 1627 ♦), at RAjor, fifty
miles south by west from Sirinagur, the capital of
Kashmir, his widow, the celebrated Nur Jahan,
or Nur Mahal (whose original name of Mher*ul- H
Nissa^ or the sun of women, ia corrupted into H
Me her Metzia by Herbert), carried the corpse
away to Ldhor, where, having interred the re-
mains of her husband in her own pleasure- H
grounds on the west bank of the river Hdvi, she (
erected a istately building remarkable for its chaste
atyle of architecture on the spot, two miles west
from J^ahor, where the town Shah Dera, or the
King's Tent, has since been establiahed.
The Shah Dera,t or last resting-place on earth
of the Emperor Jah&n-gir, the coomteror of the
world, considered by the natives of Hindustan as
one of their four moat wonderful works of archi-
tecture, is situated four miles from Anar-Kalli
(meaning the Ipomegranate-hud) on the opposite
side of the river ; and the fact of the same locality
for the interment of both having been selectea^
tends very much to strengtlien the grounds tipon
which Donna Juliana or AmVr-Kalli, the favourite
wife of Akbar, in suoposed to have been the
mother of Selim, afterwards Jahan-gir: the
scandalous stories about her mentioned by Roe
and Herbert, together with the fable by which,
after changing her sex, she is said to have been
buried alive by the humane and tender-hearted
Akbar, having apparently been invented by parties
opposed to her bod^s succession.
R. R. W. Elub,
Starorosa. near Exeter,
I
J
386
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[4«>8.VIL MiTC,*rL
by the foUowiuf letter from the Eev, Wm.
HaniB to Mrs. Harm : —
"Grosvenor Square, Aug. 28, 1746,
*' Pr»y exeunt my sending you «uch a very grotAaque
fi^ore AS the iaclosed. It u really an exact reMmblanoe
of tbo pcreoD it was done for— Lord Lovat, aa those who
arc well Acquainted witli him assure mo ; and as you sea
it is neatly enou;;h etcbed. Hogarth took tlie pains to
go to St. Albau'^ the evening Lard Lorat came thither
on hit way from Scotland tw the Tower, on purpose to
g«t a fair View of hia lordship before he was locked up :
and this he obtained with a greater eaiie than could well
bo expected; for^ upon eeodtng in his name and the
erraaa he came about, the old lord, far from displeased,
immediately had hi in in, gave him a i^alute, and mado
him sit down and aup with him^ and talked a good deal
very facetiously, so that Hogarth had all the leisure and
opportunity he could possibly wish to have to take off
his ftutturea and countenance. The portrait you have
here may be conisidered as an oritfinol.* The old lonl is
represented in the very attitude he was in whilu ti^lling
Hogarth and the company some of his adventures/' — A
Striei af Letter* of We hrtt Eturl of Mt^nvtsbury^ ^c,
by his tirand^D, the Earl of Maknesbury, 1670.
At p. 200 of voL i, the editor haa overlooked
A misprint. The well-kaown alderman Treeothic
IB hardly recognisable aa " Irecothie/* Jatdeb.
Memorial Verses, — ^In ii paper on " Alma-
nacs*' contributed to Mavvnthut^ Matfozme m
Janaarf, 186^, Mr. Thomaa Wright, F.S. A,, makes
the following statement : —
" It is io Windcr*s Almanac for lG3fi, printed at Com-
hridge^ that we flrst find the now wdl-known popul/ir
memorial verses, differing only slightly in the wording : —
*** April, J unci, and September
Thirty daies havo, as November :
Ech month else doth never vary
From thirty-one, save February ;
Which twenty-eight doth i^till coniineii
Save on leap-year, then twenty-nine,**
Mr, Wright seema to he in error here, for in a
copy of Grrtfton'fl Abridgetnent of (he Chronkks of
Eifflande^ dated 1570, and certainly puhlished
before the end of the century, 1 find the lollowing
licee^ which do not differ from those in populitr
use except in the omission of leap-year: —
♦• Thirty dayes hath November,
April, June, and Septtmber;
February iioth xxviij alone,
And all the rest haue xxxi."
W, J, LOPTIE,
BimKB. — Ten years ago, one of your corre-
Bpondents elicited certain fine stanzas which had
" escaped the notice of all the recent editors of
Bums PoernA " (2^«» S. XL. 307). 1 wiah to call
attention to a stereotyped blunder perpetrated by
• Lord Malmeabnrv, the editor of bis anwator's inlercat-
ing correfltKindence, here makes a mistake. He says in
a note **this portrait is lost,'* evidentlr stippodng that
Hogarth*a original drawing was forwarded to Mrs. Bar-
ris, whereAB ftlr. Harris expressly states that he sends ao
impreBiion of the mtgraving. This print, having be«ii
done by Hogarth himself after hi« drawing from the iife,
might weli b^ eddied by Mr. Harris ** an original."
all these editor% so far A0 X know, la ^ Aold Ittf
Syne/* Thua —
*♦ We 11 Uk a richt ffude-wiffl* wfamdkt,**—
is invariably printed ** gude wiUie-waupht"
Now it may be excusable in Mr, Micawber I
be ignorant of the nature of ffowans; bat «ni "
of Bums should know that gudc^mlUfi or i
wiUd (mde Jamieson, sub voce) means good-wilU
or cordial, and wavcht a draught; and *'gud
Willi 6 waucht ^* meiins a hearty drink :
** Rude willie-waught ** haa no meaning what^v<|
Every Scotchman to whom I have ni»*ulioni
this has received it with eurprisej and I my«
lonp bliadly accepted the error, which needs oil^^
to be pointed out in ** N. & Q,'^ that it may b»
corrected in future. W. T, "M.
Atbss, SuBlTAME. — A Becord of ths IkKtrndaKk
of Capiam John Ayrm^ 4*^. In a review of tUft
work, which appeared in Th$ Herald ttnd Omm
lofftgt for October last, the writer remarks: —
** Ayrcs, there can be no doubt, is merely a pciTigifaft
or corruption of Kvre, or U £yr, a name dttliiiguiiihi^f
the eldest son or heir of a family, « . . , In othar Ii*
stitnccs the eldest son was desigoaled aa le E^re^ and Oa
younger as h Frere^ whence the oommon namea ofSfit
and Ayres Frere and Friar; for we mngt ttoi comelmdelkt
latter could be desceaded from a holy friar ! •*
On the other hand, however, it ought to l»
borne in mind that the marriage of priosta is
mentioned, as one of the corruptions of the Cbiiab
in England in their time, by our old chronic . r*
(see Bohn^s Series, Matthew Paris), and botii
Hallam and Sharon Turner notice the fact. This
being the case, it does not, after all, seem unlikfljj
that these uxorious priests originated many of o
j>eculiar surnames. Sr.
CflAucEK : " Aftee ooh " : "Stook." —
** His breed, hia ale, was alway after oon.**
Morris, Protogmt, h UL
This ^* after oon ^* puzzled me for some tiiD%1
and may puzzle others. It means ♦•alwajii'
one kind, always tdike.^' In the Kmigkki
(l 923J we have—
** That lord hath lite! of dlserecknm
That in such caas can no diviaioun |^
But wayuth pride and Utunblaqiaaa <
" His lordes aebeep, his neet, and his dayerit.
His flwyn, his hofs, hia atoor, and bis pulttii^
Was holly in this reevea gowimura.^
The glossary of Morrises Aldine mtexf^ I
'^stoera." Is not thid wrong? In this ieaao ii^
would be a re^tttion of *'neet" in the line i' '^
and, beyond this, does "stoor " ever mean *'a
anvwhere elseP It seems to mean aunptyi
(which Tvrwhitt & Linsdowne MS. lead). Cott*
pare Wife of Baik'B (Her ProtojfW, I S0.3)—
•* But, by my fay ! I told of it no aloor.**
JOHV A3)P1V
BustingtoQ, near LilOehamptoa, Susacz.
jm
4»»'S.V1I. Mat 6/71,]
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
387
GeSEBATIOR^S WITHTN LITI3IG MeMORT. — Jkfv
fftther, JonathRn Couch, who contributed to the
pages of **N, & Q." under the signature of Video^
DM thii entry in a MS. history of his family. I
must premise that at the time of this note he
mtm B€Tenty-two years of age, and had speot all
tlifi time between hia oupillage and death at Pol-
peiTo in the practice of medicine : —
•* I have this day attended the birtli of a cliUdt which
U the iixth genention I have known famllUrlj tK>th on
tiue father's and tht' mother's side, and four of tliese gcne-
latloiB I hATc atteudcd in childbirth."
Then follow the names. TnoiiAS Q. Couch.
'DimnoBEir Cbixicism. — As a pendant to W. H.'a
note of criticism on the Merchant of Vemce(]i. 271)
it may perhaps be within the province of
*'N.&Q/ to record a criticism on art made by a
iroiking man in the Fine Art ExJiihition, Man-
dmiter, of 1862. Having exchanged fientimenta
intli Mm about acme of the pictures^ he led me
'back to one of Linnell's landscapes^ and said, ^* Look
Hi tJbat ! When I saw it firot 1 thought I was
looldiig out of a window ! " No artisi could desire
higber praise. A. L.
Kcwbargh-on-Tay»
Maitor Houses op Hekefordshihe*— I am pre-
parrng for publication an illustrated volume upon
the old mansions of Herefordshire, and the stories
connected with them. Perhaps some of your
iMden may be in possession of sketches taken
Wbre modern improvem<3nts had altered the cha-
itcter of some of these buildings, and would per-
mit me to make use of the views. I purpose also
to give tabular pedigrees of the more ancient
coanty families^ and should be grateful fur any
Issistance in tracing the gradual descent into ob-
scurity or nothin^ess of those houses which, in
the sixteenth and seven teeuth century, were of
bcal importance. As a matter of convenience, as
wrell as for other obvious reasons, I take the date
dC the dissolution of monasteries as the starting
^izit in tracing the fortunes of a manor houpe
md the genealogy of its inmates, althou^rh it is
LOt possible in all cases to adhere to this rule.
C, J, KoBUfSON.
Norton Canoo VieBnge, Weohley.
Ifturtk^.
STAFFORD OF BLATHERWICK, GRETTON,
SUDBURY, ETC.
A paper which lately appeared in " N. k Q.**
n the family of Stauora of Blather wick, co.
Karthampton (4** S, vi, 240), induces me to refer
ko the author for information respecting the
fenanoT of Gretton, and some names of persons and
places which ocscur in his remarks.
AmongBt thfi njunea in question are a few sub-
mqiiaitljr ooonected with Barbados, and also with
ooimUefl of Bedford and Suffolk,
Thus, in the seventeenth century we find the
name ** Dorcas Staiford/' ** Frere/' '* Clopton,"
*'Gidding;* or "Gitliog/' sometimes ^^Gyttene"
and " Gettins." " Wing6eld;'* &c, in the pariah
registers of Barbados, while " Oretton ** was the
fiiat name given to the original estate of the
Archer family in that island.
In the county of Bedford lived Dr. Thomas
jVrcher, chaplain to K. James I, and his " cousin "
Dr, Timothy Archer, D.D., both originally from
Sufi<jlk, where they had relatives named ** Major "
Bentley or Berkeley, &c. at Sudbury and Bury-
St.-Edmtmds, and amongst others, Nicholas, An-
thony, and Edward Archer. Now these latter
Archers disappeared from that county about the
middle of the seventeenth century, and for the
first time their names then occur in the Barbadoe
records. Nicholas and Edward are names common
enough, but Anthony was unknown amongst
Archers before Anthony Ajcher of Sudbury, who
was contemporary with Anthony StalTord, brother
of Humphrey Stafford, who had the manor of
Sudbury, co. Bedford [query Suffolk ?]
Again : Humphrey Archer of Umberalade, co.
Wsrwick, waj* the son of Kichard Archer, by hie
wife, a daughter of Sir Humphrey Stafford of
Blatherwick, (Hichard 4VrchQr was an es<iuire of
the body to Henry VHI.)
Dr. "Thomas Archer, chsplain to James L^ is
supnosed to have been a nephew of Iliimpbrey
Arciier of Umberslade, and it is certain that Dug-
dale {an intimate friend of Sir Simon Archer of
Umberskde) did not interfere with the assump-
tion by Dr. T. Archer of the arms of UmbeTslade,
although his visitation of this county was strict.
The wills of Dr. T* Archer and his wife are re-
corded at Northampton.
jVnaongst so many coincidences, I am curious to
discover a clue to the reason which the first Bar-
badian Archers had tor naming their estate in
that colony (Jretton — an uncommon name, and
unique in the colonies. I believe this estate was
subsequently named Uldbury, but for what reason
I am quite at a loss to conjecture.
These Bar bud i an Archers kept up the names
Anthony and Edward through many successive
generations. Amongst their marriages in th^
seventeenth century occur the names ** Alice Shir-
ley,'' Elizabeth Elli.sson or EUetson, CuUum (a
Suffolk name), Ashby, *S:c.
Any in formation on the subject of Gretton and
Sudbury would much oblige me. A.
Ballad wa^vted. — Shenstone, in a letter dated
1743, asks —
** Did you hear tho song to the tunc of • The Cackow ? *
"The Baron stood behind a tree,
Jo woful pHjThtr for nought heard ho
But cannon, cannon, sc.
O word of fear !
Unpieaaiiig to a Geraum ear.
388
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«k8.VII.llAY6,*7L
The notes that fall npon the word cannon express the
sound with its echo admirably.*'
In a later letter he says, " Do write out the
whole ballad of * The Baron stood behind a tree.'"
I imagine that it may be found in The British
Orphmuj by what he says previously. What are
Uie words, and what may have been the special
cause for its having been written ? W. P.
Bbll-bingikg, btc. — A friend requests me to
ask information of correspondents on this subject
in <'N. & Q." for the usage following. He has
observed that at the passing-bell, and at funerals,
before the knell, three single strokes on the bell
are g^ven twicer with a slight pause between (if
the deceased be a female) ; but if a male, the
three strokes are thrice given. What meaning
have these strokes, or are they simply to denote
thesezP
Again : at the funeral of a soldier, a trent or
trentol, he is uncertain which it is called, is fired
by a certain number of his compeers over the
grave. Has this anv reference to the trental ser-
vice of the Romish church, preserved in this
custom P J. A. G.
Dedication of CHURcnES. — Was the practice
of dedicating churches to (or rather is it not more
correct to say. naming them after P) some saint
universally followed in England in early times P
and if so, is there any possibility of recovering
the name when all local tradition is lostP Is
there any book which gives general information
on the subject ? A. F. K,
The Earl op Derby. — Many years since I
remember reading an anecdote of the great Earl
of Derby {temp. Queen Elizabeth). A poor rela-
tion came to pay his respects to the earl while the
latter was attending the aueen. The earl re-
ceived him very courteously, saying that every
noble oak had of course lower as well as upper
branches. Can any reader of *' N. & Q.*' kindly
tell me where — naming edition, volume, and
page — I may find the anecdote in question P
H. W. C.
George Edwards, a.d. 1545. — Any informa-
tion respecting Oeorge Edwards, of the household
of King Henry VIII., on or before a.d. 1545, will
be very acceptable. J. R. B.
Epigram by Samuel Rogers. — Can you in-
form me whereabouts in The Greek Anthology is
to be found the original of the following epigram
by Samuel Rogers (Poems, edit. 1860, p. 270) ?—
** While on the cliff with calm delight she kneels
And the blue vales a thousand joys recall.
See to the last, last verge her infant steals !
O fly— yet stir not, speak not, lest it fall.
Far better taught, she lays her bosom bare.
And the food boy springs back to nestle there.*'
The same touching incident is also closely imi-
tated by Keble in his hymn on the Connninition
Service. S. A.
[In the Anihologia Grmea^ by Bmnck and Jaoobt, edit.
1794, ii. 180, epig. xziz. the original lines are attribated
to Leonidas of Alexandria ; but George Barges, in his
translation of The Greek Anthohgy (Bohn't Glanieal
Library, p. 102), ascribes them to Archias. ConsoU aho
Bland's Greek Anthologia, edit. 1818, p. 366, where they
are also attribated to Leonidas.]
"Fox's Mabttrs/' a Satire.— I lately bought
at a book stall what bears to be the second edi-
tion, with improvements, of what is called so
entire new work called Fox's Martyrs : or a Ker
Book of the Sufferings of the Faithful, the date beio^^
1784. It is a satire on those former members of
Parliament who lost their seats on occasion of the
election of the new Parliament called by Mr. Pitt
after the expulsion from office of the coalitioD
ministrv of Mr. Fox and Lord North. It begins
with a list of the sufferers and their places of mar-
tyrdom, being the places which they had repre-
sented in the Parliament which had been dissolred.
and who amount to nearly a hundred. Next come»
an introduction, which I abridge slightly as fol-
lows:—
^ A fall conviction of the manpr advantages which th«
good people of England have denved from that esceUeni
work, a Book of Martyrdom bv Mr. John Fox, in the
be^oning of last century, has indaced us in these criticil
times to adopt the same plan in politics ; and to compile
a complete system of the political martjrrology of the
present day, wherein the lives and actions of those wh)
nave fought unsuccessfally, and suffered nobly in tbdr
disinterested pursuits, may be commemorated. To tbo&<
who have the courage to go on in the same path we pre-
sent the following manual, hoping that it ma}* be an niefal
companion and furnish them with plentiful souroes of
consolation ; and while they dwell with rapture on thf
remembrance of the sufferings of their brethren, let tben
pray * That, when they have served their country with
as much fidelity and zeal, they may meet their end with
the same cheerful resignation and the same pious hopn
of the day of retribution.' "
Then come the names again of the same de-
feated candidates, with a short statement after
each of his merits in the cause of martyrdom,
almost all ending with some reference to Mr. Fox:
and there is prefixed a frontispiece, exhibitis^
Burke and Sheridan at a monument inscribed
*'To the Memory of the martyred Senators," with
the head of Fox on the tablet which contains tlie
inscription.
From the similarity of style, the notices of tli#
individuals seem to be the production of the suoi
pen, and are cleverly written. Not improbsWj
the author may be known to some of your corre-
spondents. ^'
Edinburgh.
Dr. Wm. Knra, in his very amusing Amse^
of his Own Time^ gives his elogiam on Ghefsber
taylor, the famous ocoliaty but sulijoiiM a not»^
the effect that a better acqiUBiitMioe with tbs
4^&VIL MAT(J»7ia
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
389
Chevalier had enabled him to improve the elo-
giutn, "and add anme new features ^ his por-
trait, of which I have printed a few copies to
oblige mj friends.*' Ilaa the elogium ever been
imbiuhed with these additions? I see that Dr,
liing'a Original IVorJi^, ivUh Historical Notes, mid
^Mmair of the Auiltor^ were puhliabed in 177^8
__ ' John Nichols in three volumes, la this book
BOW to be met with ? Doea it cootjiin the onco
ffttxiouB poem The Toast f J, II. C*
[TJr William King, whose collected works were edited
by Jr»hn Nichols in i77ts was a different persoa to the
\\%3f K}{ Thf TtMitt nuil Anecfiotrjt tif hia Otcn Tune. The
Di!r was Ju<ti4eof the Hijk'h Court of Aclmiraltv in
tod ; the Utter was Prindrwil of St. Mary lljill,
~, Tbey mett both remarkable fur their wit and
l^Rp KixosTON AND Oldham. — Is them any
aTAilable minute information about William,
fourth Earl of Kitjp:ston (Pierrepoiat), in whose
house the poet Oldham died in December 1683 ?
From his kindness to Oldham he must have been
a man of literary taetes. lie pave Oldham a
handsome funenU, officiated as chief mourner, and
tiTCcted ft monument to him at Ilulme-Pierre-
pOlDt. C,
LtJnss ON MATKEMATica. — Can any one inform
me where I Hball tind some not very Mattering
Imea on mathematics, beginning) to the best of
my recollection, thus : —
»» TKrrn iH » sqaar, ill-natured creature,
Wilh little chai m to boaat in form or feature,**
Maidkitwetx, near LrOtJTH. — Wanted, some
information about an old house called Maiden-
wclL It is situated near Louth, in Lincolnshire.
Tradition says it was originally a nunnery ; after-
'^, I believe, it became the property of a
V of the mime of Mostly, during whose time
Tfiv M>unj? Pretender is »aid to have taken refuge
there. The Mo(?elys (who were, I believe, Roman
' -^'i-vlics) left about the end of the eighteenth
ry, when the place was, I think, bought by
,.^^ -urporation of Basingstoke in Hants, in whose
pomfininn it now is. No relics have ever been
n>itDd* The house is in the form of a cross ; and
iben3 was a corresponding monastery at Hau^bam,
a «mall village near- H, E. B.
MANtmcBiiT PoKM. — Can any one tell me if
the following poem, copied from a MS, of the
«arly part of the seventeenth century, has ever
been published, and who is the author ?—
"HOMO ABBOa.
•■ Like as a tree from forth y* earth doth spring,
So fmin J* earth doth ruan hie essence take ;
The tree «b(K)t« forth, and doth faire bloasoms bring,
8o maDf till youth hia mansiDn doth forsake.
The tree growing crooked, if vouH have it meiidedi,
WbilfC that it is a twigg it must be bended.'*
Ajiojt»
JIksvils OB Mennils. — Wher« can I find a
pedigree of the Menvils or Mennils of Sledwish,
CO. Pal.? They are said to have been an oOnhoot
of the Ingleton branch of the baronial house of
MenilL Philip Metitbll.
Pedigrees op Founders' Kin. — The privileges
attaching to founders' kin in the various coUegee
of Oxford and Cambridge having been abolished,
and those societies no longer having any interest
in withholding from the knowledge of the public
such pedigrees as have been proved to their satis*
faction, I take the liberty ot suggesting that the
Sublication of such pedigrees is on many groimd.«»
esirable. Practically the muniment rooms of
those Bocietiea are open only to actual foundation
members. Will any of them devote a few days or
weeks to the task of* transcribing and digesting the
documents to which I have alluded? If they
would do 80 they would doubtless gratify a large
number of persons, and contribute almost aa much
to family hiBtoiy as is furnished even by the
heralds visitations themselves. Lakchden.
Placard, — **The queen's grace goeth sometime
with plackarde, and sometime with stomacher;
and then her grace goeth lacyd." {LiMe PaperSf
xi. art. 100.) **The best and most used fashion
[for dresses] is large and loii^, with double
placards," (lb, xiL art. 8il) '*I have delivered
to Skutt for the upperbodi.-* snd placard 1 J yard
lywk velott [Lucca velvetj." (lb. loose at end of
vol xii/) ** In the flat trnssyng cofer . . , xxii.
placards for gownes/' {InveiUvry of Lord Lisk s
GoodSf mtcaiefulared. )
Ilalli well's Dictionary gives placcard as " a
m an*s stomach er, ' ' Fairh ol t*8 Ct^tttne tn Enghnd
describes it as *^ a stomacher worn by men and
women.'* The above contemporary extracts make
a distinct inn between placard and stomacher.
What was the distiiiction ? and what were double
placards ? IIermenxrube*
Portrait of Chief Baron Ord.— There is a
portrait at Ravensworth Castle of this eminent
Scotch judge, who, I have been toW, was the
only one honoured with the title of Chief Baron.
Has it ever been engraved, or does there exist
any print of the judge P C« J. R.
Praters for the Dead, — Will any of your
man}" readers kindly oblige me with copies of in-
scriptions on monuments containing a prayer for
the departed, put up in churches or churchyards
of the Church of England between the years 1700
and 1800 ? Frederick George Lee, D,C*L*
6, Ltmbeth Terrace, Loudoa,
Pumps, — Why is this name applied to the thin*
soled and low-heeled shoes known as ** dancing-
pumps"? M, D.
[Skianer, in hia Etymohipicfm IJn^ua Anaileanx^ uja
tbit ptimp 13 a 5ho« of one sole, and bq called, pt-rbapii,
990
NOTES AND QUERIES.
becftusi! ua«d in trlpodiu pompatieir^ which we call mnsks
ttnd balUj or from the sotmd they make in dancing ; or,
it may be ftdded, from the tpring of the solo resembling
Ihe eiafttjcity of tb« sucker of the pump. There ap|>eara,
After ftU, an obflcarity respecting tbe origin of tUU word. ]
*' The Maid of Rtk/* — Can any one state
wlio the nobleman is who ia mentioDod in the
baUnd of
" The True Marde of the South ; or» a rare example
of a Mayde dwelling at Rie in SuMex, who for the love
of a young man of Lc5ter*hir&, went beyond the sea in
the habit of a pagt^ and after, to their hearts content,
were both married at Ma^rr^im, in Germany, and now
dwellint^ at Hie aforesaid. Piinted at London for Francis
Coulc3»,"
ThiR ia a ballad of soTenteeo BtanzAB at the end
of 11 olio way 'a Hi don/ of E^e, copied from Ihe
original in the British Museum, and sold at
Sotheby*s in 1846/ I should lil^e to know who
the nobleman alluded to is ; who also were Sweet
Margery (the maid of Rye), and Ajithonv, the
prido at Leicestershire. E. 6. C.
Old Scotch Nitvvspapers, — 1 should feel
obliged if any of your readers in Scotland can tell
me what is the date and title of the oldest news-
paper published in Scotland, and if a complete
hie baa been preserved and can be seen* I think
it would be a useful addition to Mitchell's News-
paper Pj'CJis Direc'ton/ if the publishers of some of
the oldest established newspapers were to state
if they possess complete files from their com-
mencemeot. W. D.
Kenning ton J Surrey.
[For some account of the early Scottish newppapersp,
we must refpr our correspondent to the Kmydnpcedia
BriUinnica^ eighth cilition^ xvi. 185 ; George Chalmers's
Lift of Thnmas RuddimajL, p. 4^1 ; and " N. & Q." !•» S.
%*iiL 67,]
"Streak op Sn-rKR Ska/'— Thte phrase, as
applied to the Channel, is often used in The Times*
leaders and parliamentary speeches* It was placfr*d
ill inverted csommas in the report of Lord Salis-
bury's Rpeech of March 6. Whose is it P I have
beard it attributed to Mr* Gladstone, Jun, But
in the Church and State Semettf (edited by Arch-
deacon Denison) of April 1^ 1803, 1 iind an article
iMgintung : — " The Channel is that silver strip of
sea which severs meny England from the tardy
realms of Europe." Makbochmr.
English VERsiFicATioif. — ^Is there anv book
on English versification explanatory of and giving
rules for the various metres and styles ? I know
Carpenter's. C. E. T.
aa<
S* Thishalhidiii in the Roxbnrphe collection, j. 422,
in Evj * ■* — " -
vans's Old Baliadx, edit. 1810, i, 70.— Ed.j
(4*^ a tI pamm; vii. 185, 241, 344.)
As Mb. BfiKJAMiK Febeet and Mr. Soil
fftAKKK are men of sufficient emiiidiice in
architectural profeaaion to justify the public :
attaching^ importance to their opinioni on
queatioo of art, and as thej come lorward in t
own DAmea, it seems only respectful to them and
to the public that some answer should be gir«o
to their remonstrance ; and though I haTe no ri^l
or authority to Kpeak for my coUeaguee, I hope the
following explanation of my own viewa may aot
be considered out of place.
Before taking any steps with reference to the
ultemtion of the choir of St. Paul's, the com-
mittee for the Restoration Fund subtnitted the
question of best musical arrangements to a sub-
committee of twelve of the most eminent musiail
authorities in England. They came to the con-
clusion that the best position for the organ wsi
under the arch leadiug into the choir. Tliey did
not, however, recommeud it being placed in tbe
centre^ where it originally was, because in thai
position, and with the solid supports that wotdd be
necessary, it must interrupt the vista, and would
cut the choir off from the dome; and alao beetMft
the organ, if so placed, would for obvious reajons
be only available for services in the choir, mi
another organ must be provided for tho«e uaiki
the dome. They therefore unanimously reootn*
mended that it should be divided, and placed
against the piers on either side, where it would
not only be as well heard, but would admit d
considerable improvements, and could be iiiad9 il
pleasing and as powerful as any organ in Englaod*
oesides being ea ually available for the sanricea in
the choir as welt as for those under the domt*
Being satisfied in this respect, the comiii''t' '
had drawings and models prepared to eaabl«
them to judge of the architectural efiisct of 1^
divided organ j and I have no hesitation in satiaf
that, so far from being a blemish, it is just what
is wanted to furnish the choir arch^ and to glv(» it
that character and dignity which it wantsi Oa0
of the great defects of St. Paul's, as it at pressnl
stands, is that the four great arches of the dome
ore all alike. There is nothing to distiiigiiish tbt
choir arch from the other three ; but this, friA
the open screen it is proposed to add^ ferftt&f
remedties this defect. But, on the other hanop
it has been urged that it obstructs the view, Thi^
however, Is exactly what it does not do, Ub to
the height of the top of the present wood-worV d
the choir^stalls the supports of the organ iwigd
with them, and are actually only four additiooal
stalls. These project considerably lett than the
statues of Lords^^'elson and Comwallis» and tbeiv-
i* 8. TIL Mat C, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
391
fore, to any one standmg on tbe floor of the dome,
obetirnct the view le&s. Above the top line of the
choir ataUa the two halyes of tbe organ project
fiy© feet on either side. Ab aeen in persfwictive,
as they alwaya must he seen, there is no position
Id which they obstruct the view in any appreci-
able manner from any person standing on the fl^pr
of the church. The ^at beauty of the arrange-
ment, however, Ia that by it the choir ia brought
to the dome, and the dome and the choir thna
form parts of one great church, and may be and
iadeea must always be uj3ed together as parts of
coe threat whole.
The plan we are invited to adopt in preference
to this IS, first, one proposed in the Sacnstp^ which
ie to erect an altar witn steps and baldachino, and
all proper accompaniments under the arch leading
into tae choir, and so making a second church
under the dome. By this arrangement the pre-
iieiit choir would be reduced to the rank of a
Lady chapel entered from the side aisles. This
would require the removal of the stalls eastward,
the retention of the organ in the very objection-
'le plnf5e where it now isp and sundry other
angements by no means desirable. If Mr.
ERRKT had taken the trouble to think twice
before recommending it, he would have eeen the
contradiction of his urging the cnnimittee at St.
Paul's to do what he so much blames the Dean
and Chapter for doing at Westminster, At tbe
latter place it only is, that when a larger coogre-
Stion is expected than can be accommodated in
e choir they adjourn Uj the nave, where a service
Appropriate to the locality is performed* At St
Paurs Mr Ferrbt advocates two churches, wholly
separate from each other, with two altars, two
pulpitfi, two organs, and which can never be used
tC't-^ftber, but must alwaya be separate and distinct
churches*
Another scheme which is hinted at by Mb,
Fkrrkt, and which has been warmly urged on
the committee by several distinguished architects,
is to erect an altar with steps, baldachino, reredos,
wing^, &C-, under the dome, but so as to allow
access to the present choir behind it. So far it
certainly obviates that defect ; but if any one will
take the pains to draw out to scale tbe liaJdachino
that will not look a toy under a dome two bun-
dred feet high and practically as wide across, and
plan all the necessary accompaniments, he will
find he must spend more money than the com-
mittee possess it it is to he worthy of its position.
He wilt also find that he has occupied at least half
the floor apace of the dome, and so displaced a
cnrrespondrng proportion of the congregation, and
got tme of the moat awkward and ill- arranged
churches in Europe either for seeing or hearing,
and with all the defects just pointed out, of having
two separate and distinct churches under one roof.
Will Mr, Feebet or any one else suggest any
rule for determining when the one church ia to he
used and when the other ? On great state and
festival occasions, when the Judges go in state
or the Corporation on any great festivals, the dome
church must no doubt be used, as up to the
west door it would accommodate more persons
than the choir church ; but then there must he
the bishop's throne, the dean's stall, the lord
mayor's, and stalls for the canons, and accommo-
dation for the choir. Are all these to be in dupli-
cate under the same roof ?
It would be easy to point out fifty incongruities
and incoBveuiencea that would arise from the two
church plan, hut this letter is abeadv too long,
especially as I feel convinced that if Mr. Fbrrbt
or Mr. SoiCERS Cl^bile, or any of those who
oppose the committee's scheme would take the
trouble to draw out their own propoi?al8 or to
master those prepared by the committee, they
would be forced to confer that the latter involves
less change from the original design, and is the
best way yet proposed of adapting the building,
on one great whole, for all the purposes to which
we can at present see it ia likely to be applied.
J AS. FERQusaoir.
20, Langham Place,
GAINSBOROUGH'S *^BLUE BOT/*'
(4<«* S. in, 576 j iv, 23, 41, 80, 204, 237 j v. 17,
36; vii. 2370
According to Nesbitt's statement, made at Hes-
ton Vicarage about tifty-three or lifty-four yeara
ago, and reported by the Rev. Mr, Trimmerjt be
obtained the **Blue Boy" from the IMnco of
Wales over a dinner for ^300/. ; and it ia now
certain that he had made the same statement to
Hall afterwards.
It is probable that this sale took place between
171)5 and 1802, when the prince, to his credit,
paid 0^ 525,000^. of his liabilities without the aid
of a shilling from the public pureed
But Nesoitty after having been an M«F. for
nearly twenty years, was overtaken by serious
misfortunes in 1802, which elicited much sym-
pathy for him from the Prince of Widee, who con-
tinued to be bis friend, and from othera^ among
whom weire Mesat:}. Colnagbi, who expunged their
claim against him.
A SIX days' sale of his effects ensued, of which
the first was of the fine pictures, including the
" Blue Boy" ; three of the rare articles of vertil^
&c., and two of tbe choice wines.
The pictures were of the very highest claas,
but chiefly by foreign mastera. They were de-
scribed as —
• Concluded from p. 3i',B.
t Ttiornbaiy^s Lift of Turner, ii. 63 ; '^N. 4 Q.,** 4**
S. V* 17.
X Mr. Tyrwbitt, Hou** o/Cnmmtnu^ May 10, 1802.
■
392
" nelflct, most beiutif^l, and valaablo puindngs the pro-
perty of n. gentleman loDg diaiin^ishcd for taste and
jad^ent, conRisiing of the ni««t perfect works, superior
Vor excellence and quality, well authenticated, of tbode
l^reat masu-n — (inula Rhtni, Giorgione, P. and A. Vero-
nese, Del Vftfjo, X. Pf>ti!isin, Pordenini, Migtiard, Spai;-
noletti, Van Dyik, Rubens Cnyp» Berghcm, Ihtuw,
MoDcheroQ, Canaletto, Vernet^ (ireuic, Gainsborough,
and other renownwl majslcrs/'
The Tttnes thus 8tpong-ly recommends them : —
•* To be able to possess perfection, and miVn the golden
fypport unity, would be a crime ngninst taste and judj^-
ment ; and now, or never, may be fairly arirued in faroiir
of the inestimable pictures that Mr. Coxe has to aell this*
day at 20, Grafton Street, Piccyadilly,"
Amontfstthe pictures selected forspf*dal recom-
Tneodation the " Blue Bny " was one, ftbout which
The TitJien inquires : " Where so superior a Gains-
borongli in a fancied portmit ? "
At the sale several of the pictures, and doubt-
less other ftrticles, appear to linve been boug-ht in
cheaplv, and to have afterwards adorned Neflbitt'a
residencf* at Heston. Amongst them was a por-
trait by ( iftinsborrmgli of Xesbitt^B uncle, Arnold
Nesbitt, E»q., M.P-j which ia still in the family,
and the ** Blue Boy," at only sijcty-Uve p^ineas,
Nesbitt's affairs were in an 'unsettled state,
which became a very protracted one; so that
whatever pictures or otlier articles were b<^ught
in would necessarily be taken care of pro tern, by
his friends, and doubtless^ through the intluence
of the Prince of Wales, Hoppner became the pro
tetiL holder of the ** Blue Sioy.^* Hoppner was a
mat admirer of Gatnaboroug^h, and an imitfltor of
bia portrait landscapes.* iJe tells us himself of
" the high admiration we have so lonp cherished
for that distinguished artist*' (Gainsborough).!
It waa, tht?refore, highly probable that he per-
suaded the prince to become his guarantor under
6eal that, if Nesbitt would lend him the master-
piece of the man be ao much admired to study
and perbapfl copy, it should bw duly returned to
Nesbitt, as it was returned within the memory of
one still amongst us.
From official sources we find that Nesbitt's
affairs were settled about the close of 1814 or the
beginmng of 1815, by th« sale of his life-intere»t
in an estate for the benefit of his creditors, and
from local sources that he took up his residence
at Heaton in 1815, and that the *' Blue Boy"
arrived there shortly afterwards, it was said, fern
the Palace.
Happily the Ileston period of the " Bkie
B^iy's history is a clear and well-auth<^nticated
one, for it so happens that one of Nesbitt'a house-
hold at Ileston still survives in what may be
called vigorous health, both intellectual and phy-
sical, conaidering her age.
Thia aged widow, having described the '*Blue
• Pjlkington^ii IHttionary of Pahiterr.
t Fokber's Life of GaiuMbormiffK p. 242,
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Boy*' with much accuracy to acme of the
chial official [1^ was asked to go to London to j
if she could recognise the green ** Blue Boy *' a^
the picture she knew at Heston. This she did
on March 0, accompanied bv her grandson, and
promptly recognised the '' boy,** nut not the
tranie in which he is now set, and rightly so, for
the frame was changed after Ne«bitt'« aale.
With this explanation we will let the widow
speak for liez^elf through her grandson in tb« fol-
lowing letter: —
*• Heaton, 13tli Man^h, l§:i^
" Sir,— I am now in the cighty-wcond year of ray i
but iu p08»es.^ion of IxXh mental and bodily healU!, ]
whieh 1 am trttly thankful to (lOil.
" I kue^ Mr John Nesbitt all the time h« wmi
Ileston, OA I waa about twenty-six when ti« eaiBt I
m\d I went tbere a? a servant (workiog bouotki
during most of the time be was at Heaton, Mr. N«
hnt\ a number of tine picturea, but 1 only now i
*Thi' Flower-Glrl,' ♦Daniel in the Lion'i Deo,* tnd
the * Blue Boy/ The last wan a great favourite an>
us in the house, for the nice l>oy Mcmcd always loi
at u% no matter what part of the room we were m.
"I remember the * Blue Boy ' coming to Mr. NcsbitI
5*oon after he came to Ileston, and I would not say aB|l
thing about Mr. Nesbitt and hia household I did :
know to be true. The ' Blue Boy * eame there *
packed in a large cajte or crate, and was hon^ op,
the iire-pliice in the parlour in the honw now «ilM
* The Ball/ and the property of Mr- Uogarth the bo*
giatrate.
" Along with my qrandfon Richard Shortland I 99
the * BlueBov* at No, I.Stephens Square, BaAitwater»
on Thursday last, March ^ih« and t am eon6d«iititii
the same picture which liung in Mr. Nenbitt's lions at
Heston, but it in now in a broader froine than tt wot m
at Ileston.
" I also well remember two strangers csoming ftt»
London to see Mr. Nesbitt fihortly before he left HeiMD,
and the * Blue Boy * being taken down to exomiot W
them, and it« being left down, when 1 oboerred mmtdmk
writing on iu back.* But soon after this aotM ftw
f atiie from London and took away most of the f^milof*
and pictures, and a neighbour, Farmer Temple, IooIe tir
odd.H and ends thev left to Chelsea.
"* Mr. Nesbitt then Idl Heaton, but I do not katm
where be went to, but be did not look to be aa old muk
but was toll, thin, and active.
" 1 am, Sir, Ae^
" VVirH>w SiioiiTLaJrfv
** Per my grandMon,
'" RicnAKo SaocTtusii.'*
The interview, as it may be called, betwMtt
the widow and the '* Boy** was, it may be nddedt
quite like the meeting of two long-parted frieodl^
lull fifty years in this case. Evidently tht* ICQg
earnest" look at the " Bov " waa reijallintf to
memory the scenes in which, aa one of the Mia
of Ileston at that time, she had shared ; for affetf
a time she said with almost tearful emotion, point-
ing to the picture, ** Ah, that ftLCH I If that * Boy •
could speak he could tell what atranope thiiiffa wert
done before him in the parlour at Heaton.
* Still on it, at Hall*! sale io 1S58, and diMibllM tfie
H. A. ExIiibilioQ marking.
#kS.VU. Mat6,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
393
Thia important evidence shows conclueivelv that
Xeibiu hnd a ** Blue Boy " 'with him at lie«ton,
nod tbiit to the best of the widow *8 judgnient
the g]f««n ** Blue Boy ^' is the eame picture. That
the He«ton ** Blue l3oj " waa the orif^nal picture
formerlj in Nesbitt'a fine collection there can be
DO doubt, for there wa« not only bis ovfn taste,
judgment, and knowledge of the picture, but the
trust lieal oD it to prevent a spunoua copy bein^
mimed off on bim rs the original after having
oeeo kept about thirteen years for him as a pic-
ture of great value. But tliis is a short period of
abeeority compared with the time — about forty
jests — in which Gainsborougb's celebrated por-
trait of Mrs. Graham (Lady Lynedoch) remained
in as great obscurity, also in trust, before it once
more saw the lijfht of puhlicitj at the British
Iiistitution in 1848, and a^ain in 18-57 at Mau-
cheeter, where it fairly beat the pale *'Blue Boy**
on merits, and cjirried off the hig^hest honoura,
The green '* Bine Boy " was then all that year a
WAjd'in Chancery after HaUa death.
It tbuB becomes obvious that, except nominally
or temporarily, the ownership of the original '* Blue
Boy vested in Neebitt from the day he purchased
tlie picture to the day on the eve of hi3 leaving
HeetOB, about 1820, when he sold^ or placed in the
bande of strangers to bis household to sell for bim^
the " Blue B«iy " and other etf'ects.
From the description given of the tin welcome
strangers who were credited with breaking up
Ne«hitt*8 home, there Beema to be no doubt they
were Mr. Wm, Hall^ then an auctioneer, and bia
Aolicitor Mr. Hancott, {^rofeasedlj employed b/
Kesbitt. This concloMon is borne out by the facts
Mlreadj mentioned about Hairs knowledge of the
joyal antecedents and on^^inality of hia **Blue
Boy/* and also by the fact that at his death three
tt least of the pictures in his posaesaion had been
in Nesbitt's poaaei«9ion at Heston, namely the
=*Blue Boy," the ** Flower GtrV and '^DaDiel
b the Lion's Deo."
Curious epitaphs find a niche in your pages, and
beie i^ one by Hall on bis father, which iskillus-
trKtive of the peculiarities which made him so
^liceable wherever he went: —
• Williftin Hall, wbo died July 12th, 1&62, aged 75
|rearn, Implores peace.
•* Kind ppatier, Uke vour choice to otr or laofirti «
Here Will Uall liet, but where his'epitaph?
tf racb yoa «eek, try Westmijistcr and view
As nuny Jfiet as fltfor him a« yoiu
** Fire, the dectiic spark, gave me life. Time recUimed
it;
1 liv'd, I ciT'd, I ItDgli'cl. I lov'd I
1 felt p»ln and plejutire, and I was like you.
And DOW I *m what yoa soon will Imb.
" Blened is the Holy Spirit, Amen."
On October 23, 1^56, the son, also Wm. Ilall
lied, and wa« laid beside his father and bis third
wife in the family grave near the chapel in Kenpal
Green Cemetery, and on the obelisk memorial
there the epitap)* can be seen.
Hall niiule a will, but it was like himself, a
peculiar one, and was disputed, first in Chancery
and finally in the House of Lords. Under an
order of the Court of Chancery bis household
effects were sold in March 1858. Lot 72 was the
'* Flower Girl," and lot 78 ** Daniel in the Lion'a
Den." Lot 75 wns the ** Blue Boy,'* but cata-
logued, as formerly explained, and 'instructively
aO| as "A Portrait of the Prince of Walea," in
gilt frame. This frame was, no doubt, the one in
which the picture bad been ever since it was
exhibited, for the chalk writing noticed on it at
Ileaton thirty-eight years before was still on it.
At Hairs sale the "Blue Boy '' was bought by
Mr. Dawson, who took it out of the old frame and
put it into the '' broader, flatter, sloping-off " one
delected by Nesbitt's old housekeeper, Shortlj
after the sale Dawson offered the picture to th'^
late Marauis of Westminster, quoting as its price
HftlVs valuation of it at 1500A, hut eventually he
sold it to its present owner.
Through Nesbitt the history of the original
*' Blue Boy "has now been traced down to the
present time, but the history of the pale *' Blue
Boy ** seems to resolve itself into its Grosvenor
Gallery history alone, for it appars to have been
unknown and unheard of dunng Gainsborough '«
lifetime, or for many years after his death.
Its originality is claimed on the plea that it was
Nesbitt's picture, but the direct evidence that
Neebitt had his picture with him at Heston ef-
fectually disposes of this plea.
What then ? If a copy of the *' Blue Boy '* by
an unknown artist has not only passed as the
original in the absence of the original, but has
been highly eulogised as a work of art, it would
be a feather in that artist's cap, whoever he mi^bt
be. Always subject to revision by authentic in-
formation, it is submitted that the original '* Blue
Boy " was painted at Bath ; exhibited at the R A.
in 1770 ; discoursed against by Sir J. Reynolds in
1778 J purchased by the Prince of Wales (George
IV.), who sold it to bis companion Jbbn Nesbitt,
Esq., M.P.; in Nesbitt's sale in 1802: in Hopp-
ner s hands for a time in trust for Nesbitt ; in
Nesbitt's possession again in 1815 ; sold by Xes-
bitt when he left Heston about 1820 to flail; in
Hairs sale in 1858 as " a portrait of the Princ©
of Wales/' when it was bought by Dawson, who
sold it to its present possessor.
Upon the whole subject the conclusions are —
(1.) That the pale " Blue Boy " is not the ori-
ginal picture, and (2) that the green ** Blue Boy"
IS the origiual picture, and justly entitled to the
" Blue Kibflod *' of the Fine Arts.
J. Seweix, Assoc. List. C.E.
The Lombard^ E.C.
394
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Tbe belief that a foot-note in Edwards's Anec-
dotes iif Painters, in 1806 or 1807, is the flole
authority for uaing the name of Buttall either as
the model or owner of the original *'Blue Boy/'
b oertamly erroneous^ for ** Jncksoo of Exeter in
A notice of Gainsborough wrote — " Perhaps his
best portmit is that known among the pointers
by the name of* Blue Boy/ It was in the poaaes-
aion of Mr, But tall, near Newport Market.'* I
quote these words from Cunningham's Lhes of
Btmnent Engli^Jvnen {vi. 140), where the descrip-
tion of GaittsboTt>ugh is maiidy borrowed from
*♦ Jackson of Exeter/' No reference is there given
to the nature of Jackson's publication, whence the
extracts are taken; but, as Jackson was a personal
friend of Gainsborough, he probably wrote about
him not long after his death in 17SS. At all
events, as Jackson himself died in LSO^I, the name
of Buttall in connect ion with the '* Blue Boy *^
clesjrly preceded the ^^Edwaids*^ foot -note of 180G
or 1&07. A, B. MiouLExoN,
Tbft Uose, Salisbury.
WHY DOES A NEWIT BORN CHILD CEY?
(4*'^ S. vii, 211, 289.)
The passage fron; Goldamith which Clarkt
refers to is from the Good-fiatured Man (Act I.
Sc« 1), and occurs in the dialogue between Croaker
and Iloneywood : —
*' €to. Life at tlie grojitc^t and b^yt ta but a frowanl
child, that must be fiumouttd atid caaxed a little, till it
falls ttsitwpi and then all the cjire ij uver.
"flmitfw. Very true, air; nothing can ezoeed the
vanity of t>ur exij^tetic^ fjut the follv of oor pursiirts. We
wept when w© conic into the world, and every day tulla
us why."
Charles Wylie.
Kichard Rolle de llampole, in his Pritke of
Ctm»cience {Siimuiujf Cansacniup), has the follow-
ing lines on this subject : —
470 ** For annetbes es a child Ijorn fully
l^at it ue bygynncj) to goule and cr^' ;
And by Kt cry men knaw |>aa
Whether it ba man or wuraan,
480 For when it es born it cryea swa ;
If it be man it says * A, A.'
l>at N first letter ea of |je nam
Of onr forme-fader Adam.
484 And if |>e child a woman be.
When it ei bom it aaya * K, E/
E. es >e (irst letter and he !iede
Of N name of Eve Ji^at brgan our dede.
4fl8 ^arfor a clerk made on IjU manere
Hs vers of metre J>at c« wreten here :
DicenieM £, vel A. qttot-qHot rtoiCHntur ab Bm,
* Alle fjfts,* be m>-b, * >at comes of Eve,
492 {)at e^ al men ^at here byhove^ Icve,
When |>ai er bora what-swa pal be,
t>ai say outher A. A. or E. E/
^ua es here pe bygynnyng
496 or onr Ivfo sorrow and gretyng,
Til whifk our wrechednesB atirroa ui i
And ^arfor Innocent says Ns :
Omnea na»cimur eiuinnteMf
500 Ui natw€ nmtre mit^riam
exprtmcimnaL
He says, * al ar we born grstiiid.
And makand a aorowfnl semblaiid*
504 For to ahcw ^»e grcte wrechedne^
Of oar kynd >at in us es.* '*
J. R M€
17. Sutton Street, Tue Brook, Liverpool.
These passages in Kint/ Lettr, Act TV, Sc 6, hife
not been noticed :■ —
" We came crying hither :
Thou know'stf the first time that we smeQ the air
We wawle and cry."
** When we are born, we err that we ar« came
To this great atage of fooU."
Wartnn, in his " Observations on Kir^ L$ar**
quotes the lines from Lucretius, with I>iTdeo'i
translation. (See Drake's MemoT-iitis of Skakt'
spearcj p. 330.) T. McG&im
THE WHITE TOWEU OF LONDOK.
(4*'' a \ii. 211, 300.)
It has been generally considered that ihm'
Tower was the nucleua of the Tower of *
It was known in the twelfth century that
the Saxon period there was a tower in this locality
learned men of the seyenteenth and ieig-hteeuti
centuries termed it Ciesar's Tower ; and in the
present century good authorities have assigned ia
It a higher antiquity than the Norman period.
The importance of this tower haa always beai
appreciated by the ruling powers of theaitia^
insomuch that from the earliest times fi?w of Ota
public building have had more real care bevtovfd
upon their mamtenance; and until within aosQi*
paratiTely recent period the interior of the While
Tower remained substantially in its primitire vOh
fidorned state. The most extensive alterataoo H
was subjected to^ at any one time, was when %
Christopher Wren enlarged the windows ini
faced them with Portland stone. The thickoea
of the mortar joints allowed of small flints bainf
driven into the joints when the bnilding wU
poioted; and in other respects the walls bin
been repaired, when needful| to make good tk
defects of age.
The south-west angle of the origin^ wUt"
spreading basement remains; the rest <a the prnja^*
tion has either been removed for the ctmrimtam
(if making additions, or may poa^bly sttU eiiM
beneath the superincumbetit accumulatioa of
raised ground.
Although the action of the London atmoiplve
has corroded the Biirfaee of the "VVliite Towitt H
is plain that the buttresaea were built of hewn
masonry for about twenty feet upwards ton tk<
plinth, and that two couraes of hewn "
were laid immediately over the plinth.
re
4
i»8.YU. M,iYC/7I0
KOTES AND QUERIES.
395
The etAjrcAse (mnkinsr due allowatice for the
addiUoQ of Bome openings, and for the alterations
of oth(5T8) 18 lesa moderDised than the test of the
itructure, and aflbida a clue to the general con-
fltraction of the masonry thron ghoul the builds
ing, as must have been perceptible to practical
perBona who have had the apportunity of examin*
\Dg the portions which, from lime to timo, have
bten biia bare during the repairs effected within
tike last thirty jreaia.
The chapel occupies one fourth part of the area
of the ^V hi to Tower, which fourth part only was
Taalted, and that for three stories in height The
fligmficaDt importance thus given to a fourth part
of the whole buil'iing', raises a question as to the
primary object of the sta*uctare, and suggeata, in
the first instance, a reasonable conjecture, namely,
that the White Tower was built for wbat is now
called the chapel, and not the chapel for the
White Tower. On the authority of Sir Christo-
pher W^ren * the chapel is older than the Conquest.
and so Komaneeque are its few archittjctural
features that archaeologists, failing to find the
tuxial Norman ornaments^ are driven to describe
itB details in terms appertaining to classical archi-
tecture, such as Ionic and Corinthian ; and farther,
m or^er to uphold the foregone conclusian that
the White Tower is a Norman building* the
•ttention of guperficial readers is diverted by at
'"■'' "^ louncmg the chapel to be the earliest
ilest, as well as the most complete, Nor-
jipel in Britain*
The vaulted apartment immediately under the
ehap^l^ now an armoury, is entered by a wide
archway on the south, the origineJ entrance bav-
been through a smnil doorway on the opposite
This once plain apartment is now decorated
the *' Norman" chevron or zig-zag orna-
The walls of the small chamber, in the
Hiickneas of the north wall were bare in 1857,
md showed the method of their construction ; a
fiortioii of the arch of the vault was then also
tiaible.
The vaulted apartment imder the armouTy was
aaed as a powder magazine. The rest of the'base-
was vaulted in modem time ; the vaults
built around the posts which previously sup-
ported the floor over the basement, and when no
longer required the lower tier of posts was re-
moved.
WTsatever alterations the Normans may have
made in the White Tower, or whatever bmldings
they nmy have erected around it, their work soon
Cfombled away, while that of the fourteenth and
tBilmeDth centuries proved durable. The Royal
• UwUt fsyi {Encyc, Arch., Svo^ 1*54, LoaemaD,
rf^ 190, ark 300), '* It is the faahitin of modem halT-Bdu-
UkA eiilica ta pUoe little rsUanofi oo such Aatboriti«3 ma
rta* We liav« from ezperieoce Ittraed lo veoerate
Sappers and Miners of the nineteenth century had
experience of the labour and dilBculty of cutting
a tunnel through twenty-four feet of Roman
waU. The masstve propordooa and tho prodigioua
strength of the White Tower are among the
strongest evidencee of the building being Romaa
and Not Nobmak,
A' BECKETS MCRDERERa
(4"» S. vii. 33, 171, 11)5, 208.)
Mr, Towkshxxd Maybe refers to a Somerset
tradition of the assassins, four in number — firito,
Morwell, Tracy, and Reginald Fitz Urse— having
fled to a remote part of this shire, and there built
an abbey. We would direct attention to another
Scotch tradition, as contained in Timothy Pontes
Citmnffhame Topop-tipkiatd^ one of the Balfour
M8.S. in the Advocates* Librarv, written about
1000. It is drcumstanttal, aii^ seems in part
founded on the regiifter of the monastery of Kil-
winning, Ayrshire, which, although not now
known to exist, was certainly perused by Pont
during his survey, as well as by others at a later
period*
In the first place, Pont snys that the **toun
and place " where this abbey stood, considerable
fragments of which still remain, was fm*merly
iiAmed Segdouue, "'as tho foundation (charter F)
of the said monastery bears record/' He thea
adds : —
•*lt was r ' ' i noble Englichromn, named 8ir
Richard Mor v e from hea oane Country for ye
daughter ot Beckett, Arch, of Canterbtinuv
(being one of Iheui), ia the Kainge of King Hfenry ll,
of England, quho, flying to Scotland, we3 l>e the then
Scotta Kin^ vclcamed, and honoured with yo office of
Grate Constable of ScoLhtnd, a* ^m inrich'ed with yo
Lordschips of Cuaiiighanier Largis and LauderidaiU/'
Pont adds also: —
** Noir the forca** Richard hefnff, as raid scirao, tuoched
with compuctione for yc safty of hea soale' (according to
the coatonid of these tyme«), did fouud this Abtrey of
Klllvlaniii lo tettimouy of hes repentanoe.'^
The author further says that-»
•* The fottudcr thereof, Sir R, Morwill^ kyca interritl
in the new cemetery of thl« church under a tome of
lym&stone framed coffin way e^i of old polUabed vofke;
with this coat« (a fr^t is here dguivd) one ih« aUma*
without any superscriptioue or epitapbe.^*^
Now, what is particiilarly desirable to be known
is, what can be alleged favourable to^ or againsti
these statements P
We may be permitted, meantime^ to say that it
ia generally believed that not Sir Richard, but his
father, Sir Hugh, was founder of this monastery
at an eadier period by thirty years or more,
namely about 1140, than that or the murder of
A' Becket, which is generally aseigned to the even-
ing of Iktc, 29, 1170. It is also known certainly
that Sir Hugh held the office of High Constable
396
NOTES AND QUERIES-
[4>kayn*iUTd,*7i.
under David L, hai^inj? succeeded Edward Biorn
therein. It Is alao ecarcely in doubt that Sir
Hugh had A prant of the three great posaessioBH
inentioned, which Pact ftays were conferred upon
tte Bon Sir Kichard, hut to which Sir Richard
no doubt succeeded ; and it must be exceedingly
nne^tionable whether the then Scots kiog ( W illiam
tbe LioDy the grandson of David) would be inclined
to welcome a murderer of A' Becket, and for such
aJi act to reward him overtly with various large
poiMeasionp. Besides^ it is almost universally al-
lowed that the name of De MoreTiUe^ the mur-
derer, was not Richard, but Huprh, An interesting^
query arises, which some of your correspondents
no doubt will be able to answer, and if* this i In
what relationship, if any, did the murderer Mor-
well stand to Sir Hugh, High Constable of Scot-
land under David L and w^ho died in 1102? As
appears, Sir Hugh had a son, also named Hugh,
but of whom, as belief runs, next to nothing is
known beyond the fact of his having witnessed a
charter reconled in one of the monastic chartula-
ries along with his father, in which he is designed
as hifl son. It has been always supposed that Sir
Itichard succeeded his father on his death in 11G2;
but since two IIughB are found existing, there may
be Bome doubt whether JSir Richard was the son
of the first or of the second, and which of the?e,
oonaequently, it was who died in 111j2* Sir
Richard's death took place in 1180. Reference
is made to Sir James Balfour a ** Catalogue of the
Great Constables of Scotland '* w^hich is to be
found in Balsteirs Fragments of SttdU^h Hidory^
annexed to the preface.
Regarding the oriffin of Segdoune, the ancient
name of the site of tue abbey, and town of Kil-
winningj we would much desire the views of
J. Ck. R., Mr. Charkock, Mr* Picion, or
othersp your philological correspondents, Pont
says the* river G&mock ** glydu netwixt ye toune
and the abbey "—that is, did so when he wrote.
Coneequently, the name, this view being assumed
as correct, applied to both banks of the Gflmock,
on the west of which was the abbey, upon rising
ground, part of a ridge, situated in a plain of con-
siderable extent, and forming a promontory over-
hanging this river. The abbey is also close by St.
Vinnin^s Holy Cell and Well, the latter of which
was famous for portending war or strife, inasmuch
A8 Hoveden relates that, in 1184, it ran blood for
eight days and nights in succession, St Vinnin
(Winning) was an Irish saint, descended of a
princely race, »nd whose arrival here is ascribed to
the beginning of the eighth centnry. Some have
held that Segdoune is comipted from Sanctoun
(Saint's-town, or Sandy- town ?), hut the abbey
Bite would rather suggest another origin for the
affix doww^ and point to the existence of a dun,
rath, or hillfort ; such ancient works of a Celtic
being by no means uncomnion in the district.
There is a Seggiedun^ or Segdoun, on theTftT^
near Perth, and at one time the eile of an hos-
pital (Spotiswoode's Keiifrimtn Jloti^es.) Tlie
same name was, it is said, applied to Aberbrothot
(Arbroath), where a monastery was fotmded br
William the Lion in honour of A' Becket, m
colonised by the same order of monks as KilviiK
ning ; and Safffpiedtavntnif now Wallseod, b M
the north end of Hadrian's Wall It can bardlt
be believed that this king would bo honour tht
memory of A' Beckett, and also receive, pMUct,
and reward one of his murderers. So, douliin*
much Pont'a views, we wait in the hope of recseir-
ing the opinions of others. Esi*EOABE.
Your correspondent donbtless refers to Wood*
spring Priory, which is popularlv aesocUteti ^:'.h
tlie ni order of the archbishop. Its present rair.i
stand in about the centre of a small bay <m Uit
Bristol Channel, which liea between Cleved<Hi
and Weston-super-Mare, and may be visited froo
either of these places. The ruin ia Tisible from
Anchor-head at the latter. It is thus snokwi of
in Whereat's Ilamibook (oWedot9'$uper^Mart:^
" Apart from the abodes of m«n, bne, solitair, aol
rPTnoved from all fineqtiented thoroaghfare. with aOfiBlf
pbtn an tbe Fouth, and the tea washing the teaimSs$
Aides of the cliff, was the fttem, gloomy, and u&isritiiv
ftitc of thf Monasterv* Let us briedv glance il iU
origin. The blood of Thomas A' Becket staioid tto
vaultedpavemetit of ih€ Cathedral Church ofCuklttbm*
and in this far off wild aroie a holr pUe dedioated to tv
murdered saint, in atonement for the aacrilc^O'Cia etWi^
, . , . . It waa about 1210 that William de OmxtmiJ,
ivho waJi nearly allied to (qu. one of) the Mtawiartoitif
the canonised Archbittbop, founded this monaMerrt wut
it vm subsequently enriche.1 by benefactioni fran ill
the descendants of the murderers, that the daily fom
ini|;ht doanne the deep stain of rtHU which darlciMA
their memories, and* according to the superttitioiiA ^M
of tbe times, remove their souls from the peril of pi^
gatory."
The monastery was one of those depopuUtid is
the diijs of Henry VIII,, aud by degreee fell into
decay. The book above cruoted^ desciibeJt at $ota$
leog^th the condition of the ruins, now ccnTeitd
into fann buildings ; but as it ia not of Tery wcWit
date, I do not copy tbe account, rrobabir «*o«*
more recent guide ox local topography may
mpply satisfactory detail.
1 will, however, quote part of an extract arjt
book fumiahea concerning "a curious relic «
antiquity" found in repairing the north wall <f
Kewsitoke church, adjacent to Wood^pring, as it
is associated with the archbishop*8 murder. It ii
from a paper by the Rev. F. Warre : —
*'Jn the front is carved a figure In an arched al^
having shafU of early English character. Tbit ^p^S
tbe face of which seems to have been purpoMly onliittM
holds something, probably a heart, in its hsMS. Al 1^
i>ack was discovered an arched recess, within irlde& wm
A smsH wooden cup, containing what was tiimie«ed t*J>t
human blood. This reliquary was manifestly of si
4«avn. Miir6.'7lO
NOTES AND QUERIES.
39i
dAte thun tbe w«n into which it wm huilt. and sppean
from ili^ I'ApiUl/; of iu sharts nearly to correspond in
sevk trith that in u$e about the timfl of the dedicadoa of
\V-,..uKr„ ;,,.-. The opinioti of the ArchiBoloKical Insti-
1 It Britaio and Ireland, to which it wa» lub-
1 ., that it probably contained the most valaed
rtlic pua?e^ed by the priorv— probably some of the blood
of Thomas A' Becket — and thut the'monks, foreseeing
the desecration of their conventual church, deposited it
in the parish church of Kewstok«i. hoping by thla rneana
to preserve from profanation a relic, in their eyes of the
gT«ate«t sanctity* bein^ no less than the blooii of their
mordered patron, Su Thomas of Canterbury."
My extracts Beem lengtby, but I am the more
ftoxioud to supply them^ having referred to Wood-
mnn^ Priory wlien unAble to collect aajr details
of it, io my note on the Ilfrflcombe traditioHB in
coonection with William do Tracy, one of the
nrebbiahop^a murderers (4»* S. vi". 217, 218.)
Permit me to take this opportimity of correcting"
A misprint therein. Every one who knowa Ilfra-
comb will have remembered that it is a caiw not
hnt, which is traditionally pointed out as the
place of his concealment, S. M. S.
PoETRT OF Tire Clouds (4»^ S. vli. 319.)— Who
does not remember Coleridge's sonnet com-
mencing—
•• O it i* pleasant, with a heart at ensc,
JiiJit after itun^et, or by moonlight «kie».
To make the aliifting clouds be what you pleaae," Ac-
er the Oxford graduate's eloquent pictures of
cloud-scenery, in all its varieties of cloud-beauty,
cloud -balancings, cloud-flocks, cloud-perspectivB,
cloiid-colouTj^, &c. ? A German writer, Heinrich
Motz, has treated of the feelin^f for the beautiful
in nature among the ancients m a small Tolume^
pablisbed at Leipzig in 1865/ and quotes many
pMUges from Greek and Latin authors in snp^
port of his theme. Humboldt, in his Cusmoit,
mraU» many pages to *' Poetic Descriptions of
Nature by the Greeks, Romans/' &c- (see Col.
Sabine's translation^ voLii.); imd if your corre-
spondent has not chanced to meet with these
works, I would beg to refer him to thern^
J, Macrat, 1
De Quincey, I find, on referenco to his essay,
iMB not omitted to refer to the most famous cloud-
pataa^e in Shakespeare (^Antoni/ and Ckofmtra,
If*. 12). In the Variorum of 1821 a few parallels
ace given from Chapman and others (xii. 308). I
Jiwre no doubt that Shakespeare had this ** cloud-
aoeoer^' ** in his mind when ne wrote those familiar
Eoesin Th4* Temped (it, 1, 151-8^. Some editors
1itt0 altered ♦* rack " to ** wreck " in the ** leave
not a rack behind/' But compare " the rack dis*
fimns ^ in the Antony and Cleopatra mse^:^,
JoHif Addis.
Knstisigtott, near Uttlehamptoo, Sobssx.
• Uettrf dif EfHpfruiung dcr NoturtchdiUieit b*i den
IpfT V<^^ JJpinnch Motz.
A Gkm Query: Pichlee (4^"» S. Tii, 322.)—
Pichler (probably a German) was, about a cen-
tury ago, an eminent gem-engraver at Rome. I
do not know that he always inscribed his name in
Greek letters ; but a person well informed on the
subject told me that he had seen A niXAliP en-
graved on several of his works. B. T.
Pichler appears to have been a gem -engraver
of some celebrity in Rome about the middle oi
tbe last century : —
" Th0 demand for Dehn*s sulphur and paste imprta-
«ions became ao great at tbat time, and their utility for
the scholar, artiit, aad Jeweller bo evident, that the art
of making them rose into hi^h eatimatioD ; and even
eminent arfciitfl, wtch as Mr. Pichler and others of Rome,
thought it no dif^aoe, but rather an advantage to their
art, to a»i9t the connoieseur with sulphur and paste im*
preflitons of the ancient gem>% bj well as of ibeir own
works.** — A Detcnptive Ottatopte of a General (hUtction
of AiKimtt and Modem Engraved Gem*, ^*t%, by James
Tasaie, &c YoL i,, Introduc. tviii. London, Miiccxct.
Cork.
French W^esleyan 5LiGAziNE (4"' S. vii. 325.)
A Wesleyan weekly paper, under the name of
L* EvangeUt^ue^ has continuously been printed and
published nt Nimes, and, during the investment
of Paris, the MS. was sent there from the capital
hy pigeon post. This has been stated to me by
one of the Weslejan body, but J. F. H, can satbfy
himself about this and the numbers he desires to
see by inquiry at the Wesleyan Misaiou House in
Biehopsgate Street. H. F. J.
J, F. H. will obtain all the information he may
require from the Rev. Matthew Gallienne, JeiBey,
who is the editor of such maga:$ine.
SAHtlEL WaLKEB.
I. Highfield Place, Bradfoid.
The Tkhmijcatiox " vtws '* m the Weald of
Kent (4^" S. v. 500; vi. lC.)^Kembl0 has enor-
mo u sly understated the number of ** dens ^' in the
Weald. Mr. R. Furley, F.S.A., in the preface t^
his history of this district, says, *' The manor of
Aldington alone possesses forty-four denes i *^
George Redo.
Marriages of English Princesses (4*'* S, viL^
203, 289, m).)^l believe the foUowing list of
daughters or sisters of the reigning sovereign,
who haiPe married British subjects, is correct as
far as it goes; and^ without being sure, I believe
it is complete, I have copied it from two charts
in my possession : —
JOHX.
1. Eleanor, daughter, married Stronprbow, Earl of Pern-
broke; second, married Simon de lluntfart. Earl of
Leicester.
HKNRTIH.
2. Beatrice, daughter, ma rnod John de Dreuic, Duke of
Brittany, France, and Earl of Richmond, Entglaud.
398
NOTES AND QUERIES,
[4t»»8.VILMAT6,7U
edwaud j,
lighter, mATTled Gilbert de CUu«, Eirl of
' ijcood, married 1^1 ph dt Montbenner.
4. £iujAb«th, (lAUglit^r, married John Earl of UotUDd ;
Moond, raimed Humphrey lJohnD» Earl of Hereford,
5. Eleanor, daughter, mArriL>d Henry Coant de Barn?,
Frtoce (who» I belirre^ hdd rights aa a British subject).
KDWABD Ml.
6. Ijabellft, daughter, married De Conrcj. Earl of
Bedford.
7. Margaret, daoghter, married John Hastings « Earl of
Pembroke.
EDWARD rv.
8. Anne^ slater, married Hoorv Hollandf Duke of
Exeter ; second, married 8ir Thos, 'de L^par.
0* Elizabeth, sbcer, marnetl Joha de la Pola, Duke of
Suflblk.
10. T' Hiter, married John Viscount Wells;
accond, s. Kynibe,
11. Aa..^, .....i^jiJief, married Thoa. Howard, Duke of
Korfolk,
12. Catherine, daoghter, married Wm. Courtesyi Earl
of Devon.
ItEMRT VI t.
13. Maij^aret, daughter, married second husband, Arch.
Douglaar Earl of Angua.
14. HaiT, daughter^ marriod aeoond husband, Charlea
BrandoQ, Duke of Suffolk.
JuifH XEros.
Alderley.
P. asks if all desceDdnnts of a royal priBce or
princess Have a right to quartet the royal armfl p
Certainly not, unless the royal person was an
heirei8> for it ia the dettcendaotB of heiresses only
who have a right to quarter arms, P. P,
Old Songs ajcd Baj^ladb (4^" a ri. 47» 311.)—
Thanks to Mil Jaoksoi? for his information ; but,
speaking under correction, I yentuie to think that
he exaggerates. No such collection of old aongs
as he describes, whether Ktjglish, Irish, or Scotch
(nothing ajproncbing to it in any degree), has
ever come in my way. Take, for example, Mr.
Robert Chambers's collection of SroUisA SongB
hefare BumSf or the collections of Messrii. Maid-
ment and Logao, or any oi the multitudinous
flocks of " Linnets,*' « Larks," and ** Nightingales,*'
which gave forth their varying strains for the
amusement of the by pone generations. Here and
thoro one may light upon a coarse patch in such
collections, but their general character as to morals
is perfect innocence. None of the three songs
mentioned by Ma. Jackson have I ever sp much
as heard of before, still lesa read in priift Mv
notion was that the origionl songs, from which
Boms and Moore borrowed and adapted their airs,
were in the main sioiply charncteristic of the
homely joys, rural humours, political eontiments,
and rustic manners of the peasantry of the two
countries respectively during the previous century.
In that view, popular songs form always a most
valuable department of the national literature.
Perhaps the fact of my reading Efe having been
spent for the most part in this part of the woil4
has debarred me from enjoying that neculiif
species of literary study to which Mit. JacCBov
alludes. All the same, I should like to bavQ a
sight of the printed words of such songs as ** The
BatUe of Argan More,'* **The Humotira of Cwib
Lyons," *'The FairyQueen," ^*The Piper's Dula^''
'*'rho Twisting oi the Rope," and even "Tb#
Little Bold Fox,'* to say nothing of ** Ilanxty
Kelly *' and ^*ThQ Humours of Glynn.**
D.BuUB,
Mellioumc,
"Lauriqer HoRATiirs" (4**' S. vii. 324,)-J
This is one of the German '^student songa.*^ Tha
following are the words: —
** Lanriger Horatiua, quam dixisti vcmm !
Fogit Euro citios tempuf edax: rerum I
** Ubi sunt, o pocnla dulciora melle,
liixiG, pax et o^ula rubeutis puelliB ?
** Cre^wit uva molliter et poella erescit ;
Sed pojfta turpiter ntiena
1
**Qald jurat :etemitas nominls, amare
>f Ldi urr» filiaa Lioet et potare ? *'
It is sung to the same air aa Walter Mapfis*
** Mi hi eat propoffltum/' also a ** student ^
I have the music of both. Ctwbx.
Forth yr Aur, Carnarvon.
The song ** Lauriger Iloratiua '* wiU b# foiffld
in any of the many editions of the Commantlmtky
or book of songs used by the German stndcot%
from whom it must have been adopted by t^s
membeia of the American tmi varsity to whteb
your correspondent refers. An edition of tkb
book is puhliBhed by B. G, Teuboer, Leipzig, with
music, for three shiUmgs. E. C, Thojus.
Trjn, CoU^ Oxford.
** TflfE SUW ITBVT5R SETS ON THE BRmSH DO-
MllflONS** (4«*S, ii. 535; vii. 210, ^2m i — f,-
moens, whose Lumad was published
years before Fuller was bom, says of t
guese empire that the sun looks upon it wh- n i*-
rises, it still beholds it at midday, and when i^
sets it sets behind it The words are : —
** Voa, poderoso Rei, cujo alto imperio
O sol, logo noaceadoi ve primeira,
Veio umbem no mcio do homiapberioi
E quando deace, o deixa darcadoro,*^
They occur in the noble address to his king, tht
unfortunate Don SebasUani in the eighth stan»
of the tirst canto. G q rt.
Ombre: Bostoh (i^ S. vii. 35, 107, SOS.)-
Besides the varieties of the game of ombre, or
homhre, mentioned by Tour oorrespondenta, I fiad
the following named in the '^ DtctionnKira dit
Jeuit ** of the EneijclopSdie niitKodiqmy Pili^
1792 : — Mouche, mediate ur or ouad rilled qtmittlfe*
and solitaire, also piqu6-mddriUe . ^
termediate between m^diateur a .
4*S.V11. MAie,'/),]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
399
stmctloxiB and rules £or the several varieties are
fiTen at great length. Boeton is not mentioned,
ut ** wishk bostonien/* a Tarietj of whist, and
having no resemblance to ombre. C. G. C\
** Heart op Heakts": *♦ Lkiht or Lights"
(4*^ S. TiL 362,) — A ad 11 more aerioua error of a
nmilar kind to that noticed bj Lokd Chelmsfobb
la observable in what ougH to be a book founded
on careful theology. In Mymnn AiwietU and
ModarUf No. 137, we are bidden to sing —
** Light of Ughu ! with momiag shiae ** ;
and
•• Light of lighU I when fiillfl the even.''
Od0 would think the composer of the hymn had
uever seen the Nicene Creed either in Greek or
English, for there l>«j iK ^wr6i, and '* Light of
Light," convey a very different meaning from
that given by the plural of the hymn, J. II. B.
Lord Chelmsford ia unquestionably right in
objecting to thia phrase as commonly used, though
I write with the uneaay consciouaneaa of having
myaelf often tripped in the matter in company
with those of whom he complains. We need
not look further for the cause of the hi un tier
tJuin ia the ignorance of the majority using the
pliraae of the passage from which it is taken,
ting at second hand is the source of much
M^ inaccuracy which meets us everywhere;
ana nhraae« such as the above are quoted at
fiftietn aod hundredth hand. Perhaps, too, the
analogy of such phrases as** King of kings," "joy
of joys/' where* the selectiem of one person or
thing out of many is the salient idea, helps to
make the error easier to commit and less easy to
detecL
In quoting there is nothing more natural and
man oaogerous than to trust the memory too
fiir« Even auch n scholar as Mr. Froude, in the
fine lecture he lately delivered on " Colvinisui/'
misqiiotes one of the most familiar lines in Words-
worth's " Ode on Immortality " ; and one of your
own cotrespondentfl recently wrote to complain
that a SaUtrday reviewer hsd misquoted a verse
of Thomas n»>od*s, when it actually appeared that
the corrector was in the wrong, and tbe iirst cita-
tioil ootrect.
*• QuU entcndabit Ipaos ctncndjitores ? **
Alfbsd AnToisB.
Temple.
Kkmabkable Altar Slab (4*** S. vii. 360.)^
Is not this the base of a shrine F Compare that
of Bede^a ahrine in the nave of Durham.
J. H. B.
''La Beixis Dake saws Merct'* (4»'» S, vii.
3*20 — Keats's noem first appeared in The Indtcaiar
(1S20), with tne signature "Caviare," and an
ibtioduction by Leigh Hunt, from which we learn
thftt it was suggested by the translation of Alain
Chartier*s poem, which appears among the piecea
attributed to Chaucer in'8peght*s edition. Chau-
cer, however, died when Chartter was only four-
teen yeart of age ; and if M. PauUn Paris's con-
jecture is well founded, it is quite impossible that
the trauslation should be by Chaucer. Joan
Marot was not bom till 1457, and Chaucer died
in 1400. According to Tyrwhitt, in the Harleian
MS. 373^ the translation is attributed to Sir
Richard Ros. G. J. Db Wilde.
A ToADSTOJTK RiNO (4** S. vii. 324.)— H. S. C,
will find a full account of tbe toadatone and ita
supposed properties in The Natural History af
Oefm or Decoratiue Stones^ by C. W. King, M.A.^
4*vo, London, Bell & Daldy, \mi, pp. 43-49.
Hekbt W. Hxvfbbt.
Markhiim Houses Brighlon.
** A toadstone, a celebrated iimnlet» which was never
lent to any one tinlesas upon a bond for a tbouHand tnerka
for its being Aofely restored. It was Borereign for pro-
tecting new-bejm 'children and tbeJr mothers from the
power of the fames, and has been repeatedly i>orTow©d
from my mother for thi§ piimojie.'* — Extrart of letter
from Joanna fiaiilie to Sir Walter Scott in 1812 : S&ng^
lUreitea of Scoikmd,
I poseesa one. It is a convex circular stone,
eleTon-sixteenths of an inch in diameter, semi-
transparent and of dark-grey colour » and seems
fiilicious, It is set in a massive silver thumb-iitkg^
of great antiquity, and ha« been in the poaaeB8iox&
of my family for many generations. It was be-
lieved to be a specific m cases of diseased kidney.
It. like tbe Lee penny, was immersed in water,
which was drunk by the patient.
" I^ chicquanon, on poolcL* de la main dextre, portoit
Qn pfros et large anneau d 'argent, en la palle dtiquel ^it
^ncha&s^ nne bien grande crapaudme," — Pantagnud^
St. 16,
The vulgar error of the toadstone ia of great
antiquit}'f and was generally believed in. Shake-
spear characterises the toad as beiu'ing ^^ a precious
jewel in its head." I have aeen several soH^alled
toadstones^ for the moat part diaBunilar to each
other. B, Ta
Ediaburgb*
StW'DiAL QuERrBS (4**' S. vii. 3i>4.)— As I in-
troduced the subiect of dial mottoes into '• N. &l Q.'^
in December, 1851, by an inquiry under the name
of HsBlOES, about a dial at Karlsbad, I venturd
to answer the queries of P. W. S., although I
cannot do so quite satisfiictorily,
1. If R W. S, can get hold of a second-hand
copy of Mechaniek Diauing^^ by Charles I.ead better,
London, 1737, I believe it will answer his pur-
Sose, as it describes the construction c»f every
eacription of dial. It has also a lint of motto
among which are those c^>mical translations whic
have already appeared in *'N. & Q."
2, This f answer by saying that, when I first
requested the correspondenta of "N. & Q.** to fur-
I
400
NOTES AND QUERIES.
tmh &BJ rem&rkable diid mottoes in their own
neighbouThood, I hud myself been collecting them
for maaj yejirs ; and the list at the present time
is far too voluminous^ and, I may say, too interest-
rngf to be sent to ** N. & Q/* as a mere catalogue.
I hope indeed to carry out flhortly my long pur-
posed intention of puhlbhbg it in a Tolume, with
such reniarkfl, archnsological^ hiatoncal^ and poeti-
cal, as have arisen from a consideration of the
not a little interestina- suhject.
3. It ia part of the plan of the book to give
thirty or forty illustrations (out of perhaps two
or three hundred) of existing aun-diala. But this
ia a singular Question to come from Nice, where
ao many sun^aiala are to be aeen,
4. This is partly answered bv No. 2; but I join
heartily with P, W. S. in wisliing that ** any of
your correspondents who know of quaint or pic-
ttireaque sun-dials " would oblige the readers of
<* N. « Q." by a list of them, as the longer I col-
lect the more imperfect I oerceive the collection
must necesaarily fee, from the difficulty of getting
people to record those known to them.
Being upon the subject, once more I appeal to
the readers of ** N. & Q," to throw lights if tbey
can, upon the introduction of the fly into the
window-dials at JIarlborough and Winchester, as
also into ao many of the copper-plate illustrations
of Bim-diala in Loadbetter's volume*
Margaret Gattt,
"SlTMMPM JVS, SUMVA InJPBIA" (4"* S. V.
.'^17, 4:13, 588.)— Your con-espondent Q, A. B. has
been at the trouble to collect out of various Latin
authors the above adage, and he inquires if there
are any other instances of it being noticed.
In a sermon by Dr. Thomas Sberlock, an old
divine, and who was at one time Master of the
Temple Church, London, he will find mention
made of the phrase. It is very apt to be used by
some pennons m a weapon of otfence against the
science of judicature, and therefore I will give
the substance of Dr. Sherlock's interpretation, as
I do not happen to have my own copy of his
works at hand. I am sure what is given contains
no vital error of the learned bishop's words. It
cannot with consistency be affirmed that what is
xummum Jm according to the law, ia according to
the same law sttmma injuria. Summum jus re-
gards the written law ; mmma injuria regards the
original reason of all law. He goes on further to
aay^ attention must be given to the diHerence
between the reason of justice and the rules of
justice ; and by the rules of justice he understood
the general principles and marima of j ustice by
which the laws of all countries are governed and
directed. By the reason of justice he understood
the fountain from which all maxims and all laws
are derived, which is no other than right reason
itaelf ; for laws are not just as partaking at the
authority of the lawgiver, but 1%-^ nartjiTvinu nf |bi
reason. Hence arises the <' vaia
good and bad laws, though bo' u tfc*
same authority : showing thereby that an au^*
rity, though it may make a valid law, Y«t it
cannot make a good one unless acting upon tlia
reason of justice. A. B*
Edinbargh,
'* The Devil brats irra Wife " (4" 8. ti. 578.
856, 427 ; vii. 25.) — With regard to the pn>vfrbiil
'* Devil and his dam,'* and the question ** Who u
the deviPa wife ? " asked by CuTHBKBT Bedi aad
myself, I find illustration in —
" Gririu the Collier of Crovfioo ; or the Dsvtl gnl til
Dnme; with the Devil and St. DutuiiaD."— Dodslfj'i OM
Flayf^ vol xi.
The Satanic portion of tbo plot of thia play nms
thus : — Spenser^s Malbecco tella th« story of hii
wrongs to the infernal judges. They cannot be-
lieve that wives are so utterly bad ; and, to make
proof, send up to earth the uevil Belphagor, who
IS to remain here a twelvemonth and a day, to
marry, and so to take back evidence on the mstn-
monial queetion to the hellish synod. Poor B»l-
pbagor 18 at the outijet cheated of the wife of Mi
choice, marrying the maid instead of the mi^ttrMi^
His wife, after committing all the sina that woman
can commit, poisons him ; and he returns to hall
with the new appendage of horns : —
" Eelphtigor. These nra the anciimt anna of cuckoldif*
And tbe«e mv dame batb kiadly lelt to HW 1
For which Belphaj^or shall be heredecidad«
Unlesa your gniat iafemal majesty
Do Boknmly proolaim, no devil iball acorn
nere&fter atjll to wear the goodJy horn.
" Fluto, This for thj' service 1 will (rrant thee fred?*
All devils shall, aa tboii doet, like home wean
And none shall »coni Belphagor** arm* to bear***
[Compare the song in As I on Like It (n% 2)—
" Take thou no scons to wear the horn,"]
This portion of the plot ia taken from Machiir
veFs Marrtoffe of Belpf^on How much furthv
back can the story he traced P Jons Api»ia.
Ahms of Charlkmaokm (i^ S. viL 75, I8O1)
The a word aaid to have been the property of Cbada*
mague, which, with other regalia, ia preserved i&
the Schatzkammer at Vienna, bears on the pom*
mel an escutcheon charged with the aingle-h(
eagle displayed; the same bearing ako a]
upon the scabbard* The regalia, however,
a later date than the time of Charlemagne* Tba
eagle appeara for the first time on the a^al of the
Emperor Henry (an. 1050). Armorial bearinga, ia
the modern acceptation of the term, were tm-
known in the days of Charlemagne ; but the oaffla
might be considered the traditional arma of th<
emperor, and fio would answer W. M. H* C^
purpose. J. Wuoowi;
'*CfiRTosr5o" (4'*» S. vi. 475; vii. UV) — S
ELot this termi m applied to inlaid workp
\ pom*
ppo4
areM
Tlr- *
4«'S,Ta Mat a. 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
401
origin Rted lit the celebmted Certoaa of Pavia?
An J one who has visited that gorgeously deco-
mted monastery will remember how e«peciiinj
rich it i» in work of that kind. The lUtare in the
chftpelfl of the nave are inlaid with pieira dura
work, composed of the costlieat marbles and cr^rs-
talB; ond^ if I remember aright, there is also a
good deal of work in the Sagnatia and elsewhere
composed of inlaid wood and ivory.
J, WoonwABD,
Montrose^ XB.
MoRK Fahilt (4** S. ii. iii. if. passtm: yii.
2^.) — Will Mr. Moobe care for the following
extract, on which I chanced the other day, and
copied it, fancj'ing thiit it might refer to eooae
relatiyes of the great chancellor? —
** Jobn More died tbc 25th of April lait. Jofan» fats
too and hdr, aged 24 and upwards Dev^on, Nor. [cri'.
4\ Anno 8/* [Jnnuit. Fmt Mvrtem^ 8 Hon. VI L^o,
IL)
Thomsok a DEtTiB (4*'^ S. vii. 97, 225.)— Mr.
Jackson a&ks why the pnet Thomson was called
a Dmifl by Collins. I hare an idea that the man
who wrote Irish Bdot/ueji micflit haye known a
little Irifeh^ and bo termed bia brother bard a
draoicht — n singer or poet — in that mother dia-
lect of the Celtic West. W. D.
Htm York.
Tbx PiKEsni Throne (4t»> S. vii. 102, 2C8.)—
Byron makes the phoenix a song bird : —
" Id the deMtt a fountain is springiDi^,
In the wide waste there still b a tree,
And a bird in the M>IitQd{! singing.
Which epeaks to my aplrjt of thee.**
P.P.
SiVE AKD THE WerTEBOTS (4^** S. YIU 124,
209.)=-W. n. P. may well bhj " the state of Clare
must have been temble.*' 1 resided in the most
disturbed part of that county during the whole of
the " Terry Alt *' time, and "** could a Ule unfold/'
N.B. At present Westmeath is not much better,
which after so many years' experiments in the
"pacification of Ireland," makes those who are
ac<iuainted with that country wonder a little as to
what is the principle (:') on which these experi-
meaU ore based, '* Terries," '* Terry Alts,'* " Mrn.
Alt Hnd Children," all meant the BMne persona.
I lire*' was the name used by them when
their ravages into the county Gal way.
I j: uvi^ IV \erY complimentary letter from ^* her
Ui|v?hip," addressed to a relative, a native of
' , who Te.<idt^d in the county Gal way.
IL P. will Hnd the true hiatory of ** Terry
'•'*'^''*'d by one who knew him well, in
of ''*N, & Q/' Not having the
.-...„ „„ ........ 1 canoot give the volume and page ;
hut the General Index to Second or Third Series
in voce will oive it.* So far as I am aware, " Terry
Alt " is sUQ alive, and in the enjoyment of a
well-earned competence, as he must now be sixty-
iive or thereabouts, St. John,
NOTES ON BOOKS. ETC.
Tht Tl^ork§ m Ferj« and Frmt, comnlete^ njT Henry
Vaughan, Silvritt^for thejir$t tifM collected and edited.
fVith Memorial Introduction^ Egtajf on Life and IVri-
ting*^ and NoteM, Fa€-iimile$, and Original llhttTationt,
By the Rev. Alexandyr B. Gro;?artT St, GeorgeX Black-
hum, LancAAhirc. In Four Volumes VoL L : — Me-
morial Introduction and Sacred Poetrj-, including
Silex ScinUllftn^ 1G50-I65a; Thalia Hediviva^ 1678,
Falia Silvuhe, 1650, 1678,
Th«iamet VoL IIL^ PrOTc, containing : Moantof01i%'es —
Of thft Benefits we may get from oar Enemifs, after
Plutarch and M. Tyrius— The Ditieiuea of the Mind
and Bodie, from riut^reh ; Pr^ibe and Happlnessc of
the Coantrie Life ; Hermetic Physic, d;c.
The Anatotnie of BammtH^ 1615, by John Ander$QfK
Edited with Introdmcstkm ami iVf/<*4, by Kev. A, B.
Groisart, ^c
The Tearet of (he Beloved^ 1600, and Marie Magdalene**
Tearrt, by Gerraae Markham, Edited^ with Memorial
Introduction^ AWeg^ ^<?., by Rev. A. B. Grosart, &c.
Poems by Henry Loft, Gentleman (1593-1597). Edited
witA Memorial Intntdttciion and ^'oteSf by Kev, A. B.
Gross rt.
It 18 not only that these volumes, being part of "The
Fuller Worthies Library " (the la*t three forming por-
tiotis of The Miscellanie*)^ are ** printed for privftttt cir-
culation/' iind consequently by courtesy, if not of right*
may claim exerapttcvn from* critical Btrictures; hnt chiefly
twcauae, in the limited apace we could allot to them» it
would be impossible to enter into details, that wo con-
tent oaraelves with recording their appearance, and with
j^tviog at length their explanatory title-pa^ea. By this*
ineana we bring the books ituflicieo'lly ntider the notice of
tho«e likely to be interei^ted in them, and tm a.s«!i*4t. the
editor in hid labour of love. Wo beUeve he »till ha* on
hand wjme few copies of the small pap**r scriej?^ of which
it will be remembered thut the ntimber printed is very
limited.
TiiK l:«TEENATioKAL Ex^niDTTio^ OF 1871. — Another
source of rational enjoyment and recreation has been
provided for the London public and their country cousint
on their visits to the metropolis^ in the International
Exhibition, which was opened with fitting ceremonies oti
Monday lait by the Prince of Walea. The object of the
promoters of Ihia great work, namely, to do honour lo
the mentonr of the late Prince Con.*ort, by carrying out
Ilia desire to encourage by a aeries of Annual ExliibicionH
the advancement alike of the Fine and lndu:<^tHal Aru
in this country*, is one which none can gainsjiy. Th**
Commt^oner^ have done their part regardless ot trtmblta
and expen»e. It now remains for tbe people themselves,
aa exhibitors and ^nsitors, to show their appre^'iatiun ot
what has been accomplished by a generous and hearty
[• See *' N. & Q." 2^** S. xi. 178, 2S5 ; 3^* 8. ih 270.—
Ed.]
402
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«»>8.TlLMATe»7l.
do-opemtion in a \^ork which may do much to iqAu-
fipco the Intellectaul and materiftl progreas of the Dation.
Thk Camden SonBrr, — The General Meeting of
this Hnciety w« held on Tucjday, Sir WillUtn TUe,
the PrcMdeot, in the chair, when Sir. W. F. Coseni, Mr,
Alfred Kingston, and Sir F. Madden were elected mein-
bcrs of the Council for the ensuing year. The Beport
announced for early ptihlication the Letters and Papers
of John Shilling rd, Mavor of Kxeter in the first
hftll af the Meenth century ; the Cheqae Book of the
Cbixi«l Royal fkx>ai the reign of Ellznlbeth to the Ac*
4^«{nn of the Hovae of Hanover; a itecond ToJnme of
Ti ..'Ivan Papers, and a Tolume of Forteacae Papers,
.11 -{yd by John Packet, Secret ar)* to George VilliorB,
l>uko of Buckingham j an unpubli'«htd Life of Bishop
Bedell, &C. After announHni? thu ssti*fftctor\' process
making in the preparation of th^- < Jeocral Index to tho
ftrat hundred volumes of the Society's publications, and
the great falling off in the number of mem ben owing to
the many deaths of those who joined the Society at ita
formation, the Council make an eameat ''appeal to all
who take an interest in the study of England*a histom
the biography of England's wur'thies, and in these the
sources of Englaiid^s greatness, to add their names to the
SocietiF', and enable it to continue and extend its tijeful
and h'onourahle labonra.'* We recommend this appeal to
the attention of our readers. A suggestion thrown oat
iluring the meeting, that the Society should close its pre-
sent jeries of hooka and commence a new one, is well
^leserving the coujiderntion of the CounciL
Ladt NiOMTiiiOALE. — In endeavouring (tmte, p. 378)
to do jaatice to the accuracy of Mr. Picton as to tho
inscription on thin lady^s moimment, titiiting that »he died
on " Aug. 17, 1734," we have unintcnti'mally seemed
to throw a donbt on th« accuracy of Colonel Chester's
statement that she died in August, 173 L Colonel CheA*
ter'fl care and accuracy in all such matters are too well
^•tabliihed to be aflected by any such remark ; hut it ta
only dne to him to say that there l-* no doubt that Lad}-
Nightingale's death really took place in 1731, as stated by
him, and not in 1734, as recorded on the monument.
Wr have received the Preface and a specimen of Mr.
Phillips*9 Dictionary of Bin^apkioat Refermcf, eomtain'
tay Om Hundred Thouttmd Namet, We undentand the
book, which is a very dearly printed octavo volume, h
nearly read!y for delivery j and we congratulate Mr. Phil-
lipa on having brought to a close his labours on what
promisM to he, on the ground of its utility and com-
pleteoeasr a most indispensable book of reference,
Wb have to apologize to a tady, Mias Cnsack, f{>r not
reoognistng her as the writer of the History of Kerry ,
lately noticed by ua, hut attributing it to one of our own
duller sex.
London IxaTrruTioy.— Mr. John C-argill Brongh,
F.CS^ was on 26th April, appointed principal librmrian
in the room of Mr. Edward William Brayley, who diod
on Feb. 1, 1870. We would earnestly recommend the
Committee of this institution to complete the Catalogue
<if the valuable collection of hi:) to deal tracts and pamph-
lets. The first volume, including the letter F, was pub-
tiahed in 1S40.
ImtAthenamm announces that thi' Earl of Shaflesbur}"
has placed in the bands of the nation, through the Eeeord
Office, the whole of hii fine collections of family and hk-
torical i>apera.
TriB Olu Bond SfTREET Gallkry, — The summer
exhibit ion will be opetied on the 29th inst, at 26, Old
Bond Street, and pictures will be received on the 15th
U6th.
RoMAsr Pavem£xt. — Some Roman pavecniut hn Im
discovered, within the last few davs. In thegiriaLtf
No. 27, Mark Lane. This building fa of the flev«iit««(k
century, and the garden was weO-known Ibr !ta finsfttlB
and lime tree. That portion of the pavement unoovind
la aomt three or four yards square^ but it is rridsiydj
only a small part of a large pavement. Some years daoi
a piece of a similar character was foand upcm the othir
side of the lanp, directly opposite. The workmen lisw
found a quantity of an i Rial bonea, as well aa fragmcotscf
Samion and Up'ehurch ware. Bf oat of the«e have fennd
ready customers in the numerous persona riailiDg tki
spot. — TimeM,
A Britesh MusBDif Beadino-Kooil Gnif^v^'**?!.—
Under this heading a conreepoodeot inqoir
it thai bcKiks and MSS. in oat in the Ec:i
the British Museum are kept so long l :, -
binder'a ? — la many cases six or dght montbeb *
longer ; and some collections purchaaed in 1^1'
ten years ago) are not even arranged for t*i
I have sent up my tickets for books aoil
after month, and Btill the}' are returned v,
* At the hinder V Surely one or two m*
time to hind a book or IblS." We think '
some mistake inthis [ and we are sure that tiu:
of the authorities once called to the eubjcct, thtj<
no ground for farther complaints,
Eaki.t Ci£«iiioMoTiEMENT.— The mnnBgenof t '
doD daily press have, it is said, reeolved to aban
practice' of reporting in ejctenso the i^peochea 4ttt
the House of Commons at unreasonably late hour
cept in very rare cases, where the interest of the i««««-<
justices a departure from the role* hunoDrable iMBlii^
who catch the Speaker's eye after midnight wilt Ihbb^
forth ilnd but a brief epitome of their eloqiMnoe ia tis
morning papers.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WAITTSD TO rritClU.8E,
U. TATi^oa's STATaauaa.
•«* LsMeri ■tatititr iw.rik»ilKr« und lowtat prlciu. tiflrruiy* /Wt I* ¥
Mot to Mu HifiTiu PublUher, " Ngras **» Qimjuaw." O. W*
Uagtou Street, Btnuid. \\\C,
PftftlnilKri of Prlo*. Ar.. ot the fb(lowln< battks to hsMil fM*
reaiured, whoH aaaaai aatf iMlMB
th« it«Dtlainen bj whom th«r t»
ikr« giteii tor that piiirpo>aet —
Jaok SuvPHaao, itiiiitrattd bj Cmilcitiaak.
Wanted bj Jfr. J. C. IlMttn, 7* and 7^,
Stewvp&tw^ac.. hMvioc T^imitx to th« laM C,
Wauled Vy Mr. J, Q, TAomftto^ It, Cnrwn Tlrisas. J
ButL
fioikti to Corrri|)Qtt)rmU.
We are tomptlkd to pottpont iintit nfjtt irr^A oar*
of Mr. Tteisietort'* and Mr. Ckaboe* «Uihnratt ^
The Handwriting of Junius.
M Ei^om B B. — Some acoonnt of Damki Qumrw, «l*ii
mahtr, wiU be found tn **N. & Q." 2** S. vL 13^ \mi
Hone'M Year-Book, p. 314.
jr. H S. — More resianed /li* «?wfe»^-«*«r»^U^ ^
23, 1510, See Towr** Jadg^A. %% 210.
X. X. — No tharffe for the imertiim ttf Qurim,*
retervt to <mr$etw» tke riyhi of Judging vhOi m9 r
tibie.
Errata-^* S. vii. p. 871, ool. L ltnee4^ 8» tadU
bottom (of text), /ir ** au * and •* ias«rtld'* '^■^
and ** manufactured," resDooUvelr | p. 3T4,coL ilif*
/or " enclosed " read " endowed.**^
4* S. VIL Mat 13, TL]
NOTES AND QUERIEa
403
LOITDON^ SATUREkAT^ MAT 18, 16T1.
CONTENTS.— N* IIC.
If OTBS : — Irish Leponaricn in Bio de Jinelro. '103 — Napo-
leon ni., 406— Rmw io BotlOD Ckurch, /6.— UnpubUalMd
letter of — Eo«t, 406 — Prorwha —The fiodl«un —
9urnam«a of Officials in the Weat Indlea, Ac — William
Gilniorf.' Simrnit— Malc.and Female NumbenaadLettfiin —
" The Prodigal Son " hi Greene's " HoumiuK Oarment,"
1592 — Moro about Cockor — "in tJw Straff "—An Edi-
torial Centenarian, 406^
QrETlTES . - Hoaotiato Printi. 406 — Author wanted —
i Nuns — Obauviniimc»Tbe Chevron — Cle-
. i ar — Corbett of Chaddealoy-Corbett. oa Wor-
nm of EtSzabeth de I'Arche — Egga as an
H. iBle of Man- *• The Greatest
. t Men " — Hcn&ldio — Joan d'Aro
inl Spring Guns — The Queen :
) js Qf P«r»aa«us "-" Similes,
Spvuiti " — Wal polo's Nail-
— Wreck* at Sea ; the Tem-
BXPLIBS :-- Murat Painting at Starston Church. Norftjik.
«tO — Date of Cbaucpr's Birth, 412 — Tl»o Memory of
«imIIi^ 413 — Scnaa : Xcnn;, 4U— ChUdreo's Games. 4ib^
The Poal O^llectioo of Pieturea — Pla^ of tlltc New German
Ssipire ^ Gnats r» M<'?«qu]toe.H— Rev ThomaA Brooks--
Mn. Maty Churchill, 1075 — "The Hob inthoWell'* —
lAncfasblra Witches- letter of Eriward IV.— Clan McAlpia
L— • 1^^^ "^"'» — Di«htoQ Caneatares — Eash Statemtnfcs :
I)oclin<> and Pall " — Essays Dirine. Moral, and
]*: Dean Swift —Cbanocf's ** Col-Fox" and
" — Cri«-Croaa*A B C — Latin Piroverb —
i p. Ac. 41&.
ot > MM E.'ioki. Ao.
finXti.
IRISH LEGIONARIES LV RIO DE JANEIRO,
In the year 18;i4 there was published in Berlin
.« ^od£ entitled ^'A Contrihutimi to the Hiitory of
A&e W(tr between Brazil attd Buenos Ayres tn the
Ymrs 1825, 182G, 1827, and 1828, by an Eye-
WitDeea.'** I do not know who wtis the author of
this intereating book; but do one can read it
without being charmed by the talents of the
writer, and fully conTincecf of his honesty. My
main object in now directing attention to his
liges 18 for the purpose of eliciting, through the
CtiJamna of ** N. k Q./* some further information
lc«pecting an Irish legion, or body of soldiers,
which he refers to as being organised for the sor-
rice of the Emperor Doni Pedro in the jnear 1828,
The Irish are justly proud of the achievements
«f their valiant countrymen who, in accordance
with the terms of the Treaty of Limerick, became
txiles from their native land, and were a/terwarda
known in many a battle-field of Europe as *' the
Itiah Legion/* although for many years their de-
parture &om the land of their birlh was lamented
as " the flight of the wild geese.*' Nothing could
be better known in Ireland than the fact that m
the year 1817 several regiments of Irishmen were
enrolled and took service with the revolted States
in South America ; but of a later deportation of
Irishmen to serve under Dom Pedro in Brazil,
little^ if anything, has ever been said; and henco.
I am sure that the following extracts conccniinff I
the fonnation, the stone-throwing proweas, ana
the disband nrent of an " Irish Legion " in Rio
Janeiro will be as strange and extraordinary in
telligence to the present generation of Irish me
as, 1 candidly admit, it has been to myself.
Previous to the engagement of Irishmen in his]
service, Dom Pedro had formed a legion of Ger-
maos, and these were mainly picked up in Ham-
burg and Bremen, and were chosen on account'
of their physical development, and without the
slightest regard to their moral qualities : and, as
our author says^ there was no question cake'
whether or not they were outcasts from prison (
runaways from the police ; on the contrary, one
agent undertook to send out a certain number of
convicts from the penitentiaries {eine Anzahl Strafe
linge mts lUn ZuchihdttserTi)^ and even these, bad
as thev were, had been enticed to enrol them-^
selves iy promi&es as false as they were flattering!
(p. 284.) ^
By such means were Germans enrolled under
the tanners of Dom Pedro, and here is what the
author says as to those who had been induced to
leave Ireland for the Brazils : —
<* The d«t«TTntnation to iacreaae th« number of foreign
troopfl which were so easily hoftdJed, and constituted
almost the sole reliable support of the executive power,
le<l to the employment of Colonel Cotter, an Irishman,
who had be«'n jrksi then named as the commander of the
third battalion of Grenadiers. He wb« sent to Ireland
for the purpose of raising recmits, and about the bf^lo
ning of the year 1828 he reacbod Hio de Janeiro with i
couple of thousand of his fdlow countrTmen. These n
had bti:cn recruited by the same deceitml means that I
been employed for enticing the Germans (rfie er us <'
seiben sweidtuti^eH Art, wU die teuUchttn Werlter gt
^en), and for the most part were taken from tho
lowest classes of the populace, as wall oa from the WMu
bova*
** Upon their arrival, an attempt was made to foroe all
capable of bearinjj arms to enter tho service and at once
repair to the military depots to commence drill ; but thia
attempt waj* resiMted, aod when the government sought
to t'orapd the men to become soldiers, an appeal wa-* made
to the British ambasaadof. Sir Robert Gordon, who at
once declared that, unless these men had bound them-
selves to take mjlitary ^rvice, tbey oouM not be forced
to do so. It is difficult to determiiie whether this de-
cision of the ambassador was founded on political, Ic^al.
Qf personal grooadSi although oil such motives might
easily be luppoaed to havecontribiitcd to Mb deci.^ion, by
i«aaon of his diasatisfaciian with the eondoct of the
amperor,
^ Under these circumstances an amicable arnrngement
was coTOc to, and from thruc to four hundred Iruhmfsn
were enlisted upon tbn following eon ditions» Wz. that each
man should receive the pay of an Engliah soldier — ^a shil-
ling a day— which was nearly twice as much as was
paid to the Germans, as well aa double tlieir rations ;
404
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[4'»S.VlLlUTl«,7i
next, that there should be no J!toppa;:;:es ; and liLstlVt that
they efaouM not be subjected to corporal punishmenL
They were then inrorp»jrated in the third Grenadier bat-
talioni commanded by their countryman, Colonel Cotter,
and 60 ierved to complete the battoliouB of Gertnans,"
CPp. 288. 2890
And here it is to be remarked that our author
may be relied upoa as to whatever statementa he
makes aa '' an eye-witness^^' but that he was liable
to miBinformation, and^ I have no doubt, was
misiiiformed when be asserta that these Iriah-
men were recruited in Ireland^ and that Bome
of them were ** Whiteboys.'* There were no
** Whiteboys'' in Ireland m 1827 or 1828, The
aevere enactments entitled " The Whiteboy Acta ^'
were still in force- Some landlords were still
guilty of cruelties^ and farmerft and farmers* la^
bourers resented such cruelties by the perjwtration
of heinouB crimes; but still there were^ with the
exception of the co. Tipperary, fewer grave agrarian
otTences committed in Ireland in 1827 and 1828
than for many preceding: years. 1 entertain then
a very strong doubt that any of the Irishmen im-
ported into Brazil were agriculturists. And then
there is this consideration, — how could two thou-
sand Irishmen be recruited in Ireland and utterly
escape the attention of the two yovernmerUs tbiTt
were then established in that country ? It may
seem strange to assert that in 1827 and 1828 there
were two governments^ but such is literally the fact.
There was ** the Irish** government established
at the Com Exchange, and called ** the Catholic
Agftociation/' with Daniel O'Conoell as the pre-
ftident, and there was ** the En polish '* government
ftt the Castle» with the Marquia of Welle^ley or
Anglesey as Lord-Lieutenant. The latter would
not have permitted the po visions of the Foreign
Enlistment Act to be violated ; and the former
would not have sanctioned the deportation of so
largR a number of their countrymen for the pur-
pose of fighting against a state like Buenos Ayrea^
which had only recently achieved its independ-
ence. My belief then is that the Irishmen re-
emited by Colonel Cotter must have been picked
tip in London, Liverpool, Manchester, and Glas-
gow, and wei^ — if one may judge of them from
their subsequent conduct — composed of the refuse,
riif-rart't and the worst portions of the Irish popu-
lation to be found out of their own country.
" Great mischiefs," observes oat author, ** followed
from having in the same corps men of two distinct nation-
aUdes, and receiving diffisrent pay, and treated not in the
aacna manner. The Iriab, beiog so much preferred to the
Germaas, soon tM^an with dots in thf tavernn «nd
'Toodas^ of Rio de Janeiro, and by these riot^i great dia^
forbancei were cattsed, and many persoiu loet their lives.
The Irish alao soon found oot a new amnsement for them*
»lve»^it waa by practising tbdr great akilt in stono-
throwing at the estpenae or the neigroes {ihre Qtietuck-
UehkeU tm Steimw^jen an den Ntptnt xu alfttit). These
poor neg^roea were thus molented as they daily came to
draw water ftxtm the fonntaia in the Place St. Anne, in
Iief7,ifl
lalali^H
npesdiaH
► AH IW ll
wbjeh the barmcks were situiited. Ttiii »fUK»v «rn^o a'f'!f d
to their afflictions, and 5^:r
their masters most bitter cr
this consequence followed th*t iuK ^ivrwm
flcildierx, who loved brawhng and drialdng aa
the Iriah, readily followed their examDla, e»Dooi«
they Aaw that the^se disorders were foUowad li^ no MM|
punintimentf as the colonel winked at the raaaooaAnct \
the Iriihmen in the hope the remainiler of tlieir i
men would be tempted to join the ra&ko.** (P. S89*)
It would be a waste of your space to enter id
aU the particulars of the manner in which a {*
regard of discipline at length led to open muti^
In this mutiny^ the Irish fully sympathiniiff wj
their new and cordial friends the German aoldia
both broke out into. an open insurrection, whidi b
thua described ; —
"The marching of troops, tha rattling of artilief?,
the racing of orderly officers, announ^^ to tha I
tants of Rio de Janeiro the danjtrer that was imp
over them. A multitBde of cariouj perftOOSf and ai
them many negroes, were coIlect4«i togiether no the
Place St. Anne, and it might be abont mid-day, wbat tfc»
insurgent.^ without any military' ordcr^ bat Jtatftaei
together like a swarm of bee^, burst out of the baiftdl*
yards.
" The first fight of the insurgent* bf^
t«tor^ and was especially directed n.
The Iriah threw stones at chem, and tin j, 1 1 1 mi^j^^.^ ^ *,■
then followed discharges of mu&ki^lrr. Thoiwwbolil
been eoLlucted from curiosity fled^ and the insnrgods^
incited by rage, and eager for plunder^ broke into hio^am^
and ravaged the adjoining strcctsu Rathless and aaiwir
they spared the lives of none they cncountt'^ed. W
inhabitants, in their despair, armed thcmaelres \ tlic ft-
groes, too, got hold of weapons, and then becan a battK
or rather a butchery^ tit which a mutual hatred, aarptaill
al 1 bell ef, was exh t'hited . No q uarter was given on libi^
side, and the blacks, like cannibal^ tore with 'i-'' '--^^
the bodies of their fallen foes ! The battle ru
hotirs, until at last the ammnnition of the in
exhau'tted. * ... A detachment of cavaln vt
against them, bat thta was encoontertd by a it
Irbhmen with such a powerful, weU-aimod b ..i- t
Atones, that many of the riders were kno^:'^
horses, and the remainder took to flight." (V ,
This last incident is, I beHeye, an adtlsTWir«*^
unparalleled in modem war£%re. But t^
to a conclusion of " this atrange, event
torj .** The mutiny was suppressed, and
blame of it was thrown upon the Irish*
die Schuld der Eniintnwq alhein m^f dU Irtui
tcalzen beabskhii^e). The universal cry of 111
Brazilians was ** Death to all foreigners f *' " '
todm OS estrangeir(y$!)\ and as to this
" Irish legion," we are told that its memfiers^
given over to the English authoritiea, fa
that they might be returned to their owitl_
as alike* incorrigible and untameable*' (iftV
lander defi en^Uschim JSrhardm uherffiehm
urn tie in ihre JSeimaih smUcksugehafmt di* m
qU wiverbesserlich tmd un:Uihmbar a»affah)t il ^•^
But did these Irish return to IreUndf 1 dAuh
it I should like to know what b^camo oft
4««S.Y1L May 13,11,]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
405
There inuat Burely be some record of these trims-
actions in our Foreign Office; or perhaps some
one in Ireland can tea of Colonel Cotton and his
Irish Legbn. Wm. B. MacQase.
Moocoatoar-de-BreUgoe, Cotca da Nord, France.
KAPOLEON IIL
There are many accounts of the life and worka
of Napoleon III., some of which, laudatory
enough, were evidently written hy order* j but in
none of them, as far as I know, is there any men-
tion of a contribution from hia Majesty to a trans-
lation bejrun by his brother and published in a
lar^e collection^ the PmUh^on iittiraireA The
4eaication, which I beg to subjoin, is ver^" cuxious,
and may gite rise to more than one commentary :
** A Son AltefiS6 Imp^riale
Le Prince Napol^a Louis Bonaparte.
•* Mon cher Prince,— C*e«t k vom surtout oue je deT&ia
oflrir ce volume?. 11 contieDt I'auvrage d^un Jncquea
Baooapartc, homme At sens et de cceur, qui porta avec
boimeur au xvi* sihde c« nom devenu au xix' le plus
j^orieox des noma. Un autre membre de votre famille,
an hooime d'uo esprit droit, d'nra coenr gdn^reux, d'un
paitriotUme cprouve, qui fut votre fr^re, a f&it de cet
oovrago une trad action ^^gaule et iWile. Y^^us-iaerue
VD1LI av«e bien voula, k ma dcinandef rcvoir les frag-
menLa omle par TOtre fr^e, car je ne voulais pas qu'tme
plniDo (<trang^re vint se tncler a cette association de
CijniUe, Je puis done dire qu'en bonne partie ce volume
fft toat votre et voua le d^ier coiume tel* Ma^ia uoe
nut-- ' rntion encore m*a determin<$ k vous le pr^-
Bff 4tril contient, k cote? de la narration liis-
lo que* liuonapartc, lea M^moirea aur Bayjird
n , deux heros de votre afTectioQ, Je ne sois
«i r.ivorableou contraire,voas appelIcra|aiMaia
k iin ^ u- u liiLtion, voaa coDdamnc, en expiation de la
l^liLoire de votre nora, k user juaqu'ici dans Texil eette
gto^miso ardeur par loqudlo voua eosaiez su le ooutenir ;
faaii ce que je saL-t bien, c'est que li jamaia votre patrie
r^dasiftit le aacrifice entier de votre peraonne^ bctircujt
di vooi expoacr au premier rang, sans autre ambition
^^oa ceTk de bien faire, sana autre mobile aue I'interet de
vocrs paya, voos aauriez, cotume Bayard, cjipitaiiie ou
•oldatv mo^Crat on citoyeu, conqu^rir I'affectron, }e
CtipQcC, et, je me plals k le croire, radmiration de tous.
•* 8i qua fata aspera rumpas,
Tu Marcellus eris.'
•• IfaHi, 27 jaUlet 1836, Votre ami,
** J. A. BUCIION."
FBAircisav E- Michel.
i Club, FaU MalL
BRASS m BOSTON CHURCH.
Pbhey Thompaon, in hia generally accurate
Uistory of BostoTif alludes (p. 197) to ** a most
brtUiant coat of arms upon a orass nlate with neal
matab and tinctures enamelled as Old as the reign
i'ureaUv Dictitmnairt univergei dtt ctmiwm-
rd. Hoefer, NmmdU Biographit ^iniraU^ Mtc,
de ChroniqutM tt Memairtt tw PHittoir* dt
Loyal Serviteor. — ChroDiqae de Bayard^
Pnria, A* Dearay, i^jaoocxMXn^ 8vo.
f L./unj!'
of Elizabeth,^' which was in 18643 (and it is to be
hoped is now) in the south aisle of Boston church.
It IS a memorial of Hichard BoUe of Haugh^ who
died 1691 ; and as Holies, while giving the in-
scription which in 1640 esisted in Latin, made no
mention of the plate, Thompson, who extract
from Lincolnshire Chttrches, Division Holland^ p. C
(1343), an account of the blazoning of the sixtee
quarterings of which it is stated to consist, j
marks that it has been probably renewed since
Holies* time, particularly a-s the inscription is now
in English, and not in Latin.
Possibly in such renewal the plate has sufTered,!
or time has caused the tinctures to appear other-
wise than in their proper colours ; but if the ac-
count describes the plate as it bos lately appeared,
it is very far from being an accurate description of
the armorials of this old Lincolnshire family.
For instance, the first coat (Bolle) is described as
*' Sa. 3 lamps or, flame ar.,*' while the name is
only attempted to be assigned to one coat^ and
then Kymt is ioserted instead of Haugh,
In case it should be deemed worthy of a note^I J
append a more correct description of the armip >
nnd the names of the original bearers thereof, so
far as I have been able to ascertain the latter.
1. Az.outof 8 cups or, as many boars' heads
couped arg. — BoUe,
% Arg. 3 maces sable. — PulvertofL
3. Arg. !2 bars gu. on tf chief vert 3 beaants, —
Angevine.
L Arg, a chevron between 2 escallops in chief,
and a cross crosslet fitchee in base, gu. — D^M-
derhie.
5. Arg. a chevron between 10 cross croaaleti
gu. — Huttgh.
6. Sa. a chevron between 3 bells arg. — BeU,
7. Party per pale iodented or and gu. a crescent
for ditlereuce. — lioUand,
8. Sa. a chevron ermine between 3 wings furg*
*—Nanfmi of Devon.
9. Arg. 3 wolves couiant in pale az. — Nanfan
of ComwalL
10. Chequy or and ai. a chief arg, gutt^ de
sang. — CokshilL
IL Gu. fretty or, a canton arg.
12. Arg. 3 chevronels sa., the first charged with
a martlet or.
13. Arg. fretty gu.
14. Arg. a chevron between 3 cross crosslets sa.
within a bordure of the last bezant^e. — FiU'
wUlianu,
15* Gu. a chevron between 3 cross crosslets or,
a lion passant in chief of the second. — MaUdhorp*
Id. Arg. 2 bars engrailed sa. — Stagne»
In the account to which exception is taken, tlie
plate is treated as being quarterly quartered,
whereas the sequence of the arms following th^
order in which they were aio\pik^,*Rfcat^Saa% \»
406
NOTES AND QUEBIES,
[4*** a. TIL Mat 13, TL
the fftmily pedigree, la fifom the dexter to the
siniater siae of the shield.
Perhaps some coireapondeut can obli^ by aa-
signiDg the naine§ to Nos, 11, 12, and 13, The
arms appear to have accrued, in addition to Nos, 8,
9, and 10, hj the mftrriag:e of Richard Bolle^
grandftither of Richard before mentioned, with
Istahel, sister and heir of Sir Richard Nanfan,
whoa© fether, John Nanfan of Cornwall, married
Jane, daughter and heir of Sir John Coleshill.
W. E. B,
UNPtTBLISHED LETTER OF
. ESSEX
[Tbr iinonpj the papers in the pouesfiion ol
the Di! iieslcr. It husneillier date nor addrtjss.
Is ther*j ... _ J J existing of the duel with Sir Edward
Baynton ? Mr. Hepworth Dixon aeems to bavc ov«r-
loolEed ehia letter when seeking for matter for Tke Court
and Titnetfrom Sliiabeth to Annt, T, P. F,]
Deare Essex
The nuis ia too tnie and air edward Bajnton
who my Sonne fought with ia hurt but yester-
night my Sonne cam ftom .... wljere they
fought and waa aaaured by dockter wryght and
the SLrgen that searched the wond that ther is
no dao^^^er there went a post a man of my lord of Sx
with a leter from the Queen and an other from
my lord marquis hartfor to » , ♦ . his pardon and
Becuer his future if the oliier ahould dye which
God for bide he shold you maye imagia how auch
an acsedent as this wold alllicte me to , . . .
that I live for the sinne of it is more than anny
thinge else my Sonne Ro. lyes concealed least he
ahoul gooe in to a prison, this onfectious tyme for
UiiB facte cud not adnaitt of beinge bayled I trust
in God the gentillman shall live that my Sonne
be not so unfortunat as to be gilty of murder.
Your Sister knew nothing of it nor ahall not go
longe as I can kepe it from hir. Thia will kepe
us from coming to Lease this sumer for it will be
fortenday befor the wonde that ia green can be
healed^ and all that tym your brother Bo. muat
conseale himselfe. Therefore when you wold
have the coach gend for iL I can not send you the
pirticulers for T have letei's to ryte to Simaon and
my Ledy Carlile being here tliis day I waghted
on hir parte of the way and came not home till it
waa late^my Sonne to your [?] Company your
SX,
I feare that when yor Sister knows of this
acsedent she wiU be in great affliction though her
husband bo ■ and I shal be in fear a great
while.
Pbotibbs. — " Turn coal, never be rich.'^ Allu-
sion to the extravagant practice of turning over a
half-burnt coal. "Faint costs nothing/' Alluaian
to its protecting and preservative elfect on the
woodwork h«low, M, D.
The BuDLEiAi^. — In Dauban^a Zai Pri§om ^
Pans torn la Mtvohiiiim is a pmr on " La Mom*
litd de Beaumttrcbttis^*' now prmlvd for thu firil
time. In this paper mention is madd of a oertaa
Abbe de Gevigney employed in the unawttwript
department of the' King's Library. This abb«^ is
spoken of as having been most unscmpuloua, and
as having sold many of the manuscriptacooiniitled
to his chaige. He made the best excuse* lidcodd,
but the account aaya^ —
*'Eh bi<;n, le aurplua avatt ^t^veadii k dn Anglai*. ft
forme aujourd'hui Tiin des jovaox da la BlfalkithAaia
BodWieime d*Oxfont" ' ""
StTRiTAicEs or Officials ur thb Wi
ETC, — On looking over the list of offio9-ll<
theee colonies, one is struck with tfe© fr
recurrence of the same name in the ^mallfiT
well as the larger islands. Once in office, a fandlf
seems to talre deep root, even although ft W
exotic; and it is perpetuated, in the same w^^t*^
irreapective of otlier local tiea. Some of tbeis
names are scattered broadcaat, while others m
intensely localised. This monopoly, ae it ym^
seems latterly to have been abanaoned in Jasttica
In Barbados, of forty-one* otHcials, thete antvt
Gores, two Parrys, two Clarkes, and two TayloA
in Bermudas there are three Darrella, tbnt
Brown ea, two Keons, two Tockess, two Gilbtrii^
two Bo wy ears, and two Harveya. In Ba^
Guiana, of fifty-two oflicials, there are ^r^ hsxh
tins, two Walkers, two Coxa, and two PbllarilL
In Dominica, of thirty- three officiala, thxaa Ijuk*
harta. three Fellana,' three Lloyda, two Ballot
two Johnsons, and two Tavemeri. In Orenwia, of
twenty-seven officials, four ' oxtA twj
Wells. In Montserrat, of t^^ nt oMcsalSi
§ve Dyetta, £our Meadea, two Tdel^ two Jo^
SODS, and two Sempera. In Nevia^ of tlairtf*aM
officiala, four Maynards, two Dyetts, two Ilm«%
one Semper, and one Wigley. In St Kitt*s, d
twenty*8even oiEcials, three Bur rill _ V Eve-
lyns, two Elridges, two Wigley v-i, oi i aper.
In Antigua, of thirty-£ve o^daLi, ivw. ;\ug«at%
two JarTisea, two Mercers, two Thibouap tiai
Ooulla, one Peel, three Buynes, three Hyndmasi.
two Moras, and two Berkeleys, In "ralkkiid
Idands, of fifteen ofHciala^ tlur^ Qwffitl*^
Ryngs, and two M'Clintona, S.J
WrLLTAM GlLiroRE SiVMS. — ^The affixed cut*
ting from the New York correspondent's letter b
The Standard, June 30, 1S70, majinlarBSl wa^
readers of '' N. & Q.,^which seems to ba fSba Tflfj
paper for such a notice ; —
** The Soutbera States hare lost thdr moot i,
and f^rsAtile maa of letters in tha deaib of Mr«
Giliiiora Simm4 of Sooth CatoHna. wMck
* TbetG are appnacimatt
nack).
(soa Baaai^i JIm
mm
4* 8. TB* Mat IB, 71,]
NOTES AND QUERIES*
407
ilice in Ouirle^t- ''1 Ith inaUnt, Mr Simmi is
irobAU^KtUe k ^land, yet be wu the moHt
KToliJIo of all Atti itujr<i, And the list of hb worka
roold probably rviich uui to u buadrfid. He wm long
b« odltor of ibe .VomYA Qnorteritf Mtvuw^ a publicntiim
tfaidi ocAsod to eju«t before the breaking out of tbe war
f Mfwimnia, and ba* not aiDce been revived; bat ha wrote
istaciea* biograpbkSf poemst playe, and u many novels
■ t^Ute G. P. R. James, whom as a novelist fie some-
rh»t reacmbled. Mr, Si mm? enjoyed at one time a con-
Mcrable popularity in tlie XoriUera Slates, and In early
le was the perK>nal friend of WafibiogtoQ Irving, W. C,
Iryant, aJid other eminent Xurthem writers. He cepoused
^th aU tbe energy of his nature the cause of the ^nlb
I tli0 w«r of the rtbcUioti, and sent his »on into the field
I Hampton's cavalry. liis country aoat of Woodlands
f«a bomed in Shernion'* raid, and 'he saHercd total im»
Dreriahment in tbe collapse of th^ Confederacy. Apart
jDOi such of hid novels as are based on Indian lift and
le revolntiooaiy period, which have a permanent value
^ preaentiug soaal phases that have long paaeed away,
|b b«al books were probably bis //uCory of 8fmth Ciom-
^'^taf tht Chttkiihr Bayard^ and Etaau on the Doubt'
[ tbftt many of Mr. S^mraa'a novels of
'»linft, and We&t Amencao
1 into GnrmaD {^arie de
JJa' Kumke vtni Kiawu^ 5 vols. ;
15 vols. ; Wiywavi tmd IluUe ;
, Scc.)^ and are read with
lire by the lover of the
V, lUL'iy'laiown G. P. R. James
AJfD FeMALB NntJJElW AKD LfiTTEBfl. —
tjdiea hAve been observed by many philolo-
in tbe distributioD among various groups of
^e of numeral root^ recognisable as iden-
but employed to expreBS diverse ntimbers.
' hject on tbe rreaent occaaion is to
b 'n the probable operation on nume-
in tut_ uual and consequently sexual evstem,
rliioh prevailed during the Caucaso-Tibetan
poch, and vtrhicb exercises so mucb influence on
lie philosophy of the Assyrians, the Ohaldaeana,
ud the Hebrews, and which lives in the shape of
uperstition even to this day*
The decimal system of a hand of five fingers h
elatiTely recent, and was preceded by a quator*
uiry system of a hand of lour finerers, and it h
oheequent to this epoch the numbers three and
erven were introduced. The fingers were named
IB in Wefit Africa, and the pairs on the tight
land were 1 and 2, 4 and 5; on the left hiuxd^
'} and 8; 9 and 10. There were probahly otb^
wira on the feet, 11 and 12, 14 and 15, &c'
The larger fingfera wcmld bo male and the
iomller female in the development of the du^
faiem. The larger fingers are inside on the
■liatemary system, and the smaller or female
||lg«rB m oitwde '" *'- "interrjary and quinary
itMUt ThemaJ' ouM consequently be
A, 8| tad % and u.. .. .. .^la fingers 1, 5, 0, and
10, It can be observed that there are relations
among what has been here named the malegroapi
and likewise among the female groups and there
are further linguistic relations between the paint.
Letters, the cabalistic relations of which to
figures are well known^ »dll maintain the relation
of solar and lunar in some languages, and this
strengthens the suppo^tion of a precedent epoch
of male and female, or solar and lunar^ number
or finder names, Htb£ Clakkx.
32. St George's Square, S,W.
"Trb Prodiqal Son '* in Gbbkice's " Mocnur-
150 Garhettt/' 1692. — Those readers who had
the rare treat of seeing in the late Exhibition of
Old Masters the fine series of ** The Prodigal Son "
painted by MuriUo (ob. 16^2), or who have
perused Dean Stanley^s description of the six pic>
tures at p. 120 of the present volume of " N, &Q,,*'
will study doubtless with no small amount of
pleasure an earlier series of pictures of **The
Prodjgfd Son '' to be found in a blnck letter pam-
phlet, supposed to be rare, entitled Qnens Mourn"
ing OarnhefU .... hoUi lyhaatmi ami pro/itahU^ by
IL Greene — a humorous poet who died 1W2, and
who says of himself (k l^) —
" If I have been thought .,,... a* ftill of anionra as
Ouid, yet you will vouchsafe of my Muuming Garment t
for tbnt it lathe first fruits of my new labours, and the last
farewell to my fond de^res « . '. as thi^ is the first of my
rsfomied passions, so this is the la^t of my trifling paoi'-
phletB/*
The little work abounds in wise aphorisms, and
contains at least one pastoral poem of great merit,
termed "The Sbenheards' Wiues' Song/*
W. H, S.
MoBE ABOUT Cocker (See "N, & Q.'* pamnu)
In the —
" Purliamentary Intellipjencerj comprising the Sum of
Forraign IntdUgence, with the AQiiirs now in Agitation
in £n^and, Scotland, and Ireland, For tbe Information
of the Peopla. July 9 to July 16, 16G0 *'—
I find the following curious advertisement: —
** The Pen*8 Gallantry : a copy-book containing sondry
GxampleM of all the rjurious hands now in us© ; the second
impression, with the additions of court>hand copies, ex-
quisitely performed bv the author, Edward Cocker, living
on the *outh side of ^t. Paul'a Church, where he teachea
the arts of writing and arithmeiick in an extraordinary
manner. Sold by William PUoe in Gray*s Inn Gate
in Holboum, and Thomas Books ai the Holy Lamb at
tbe east end of St. Paul's Chnrchyard, London.**
MaITBICB hBHIKAHf M.HXA.
Limerick.
"Ijt twr Straw," — I fanciKl this saying had
been referred to in '* N. & Q,/' but do not find it
in the three indexes. "The following extract pre-
sents* a slight variation, possibly arising from, the
poverty of the mother referred to : —
** lie has now got the seventh chihl, and tbe wifo is
presently an the ttraw^ so that the len |>t>ttnd note came
seaaonably/'—ln a note fr^m Brechin, 1767, June. •
w. p.
408
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4^8.VII. MatI5»71-
Ay EDrroRrAx Centenartait. — It Is stated in
the Printer 9 Regider^ p. Ill, tlmt ^fr. Lewi a
Doxat, lately deceased, was ]08 years old* He is
reputed to aa?e l)eeD born in the British We-^t
Indies, to have been enj^aged on tbe Morning
CfmmicU newspaper in 1788, in 1804 to have
becooie editor of The ObAerver^ from which he
retired in 1857, and died March 8 in the pre-
sent year — 1871* A. H,
[^VVc believe it waa only in Tfrn Standard and the
Prtntfr^s ReffUter that the'age of Sir, Doxat i^ sair! to
liavfl been 108 ; whcreaa in other papem it ia stated he
wu aged ninety-eight when he died.— Ell]
e^ufrtir^,
MEZZOTIXTO PRINTS.
I should like much to obtain a key to a pair of
inezzotinta I posaesa, which may be recoj^TjiA^d by
dome intelligent correspoadunt by tlio following
unartiatic description (size 2(3 in. by 18 in/): —
No. L Scene, apparently the re^'^iona of Pluto.
i *n the right, a cluster of grotesque demons ; in
their midst a saintly figure, hands clasped as if
supplicating the mercy of a wiuged monster in
the act of seizing him ; the others pressing around,
aiding and ab^etting; above their heads a large
^b, bestrode by a skeleton goat-headed man
playing upon a pipe, all joining indeed in one
liellish chorus directed at the holy man they have
captured. On the left the three-headed dog
chMned, menacingly rampant in the same direc-
tion ; a figure in the corner holding a dilapidattMl
'birch broom over the heads of Cerberus,
No. 2, Scene the same. In the centre a homely
elderly female passing ; a basket on her left arm,
containing apparently drinking vessels ; her apron
»ilso filled and held up ; in ner right hand, ele-
vated, a naked sword ; head turned and eyes bent
on tbe three-headed dog, as in No. 1, stramiug
his chains to get at her. In advance, on the other
side, a group of indesciibable demons crouching
together at tne siglit of the sword ; the principal
object in this last a monster with skeleton* horse
head, cloth thrown over the body, and bestrode
by an imp with owFs head, aa^ih, sword, spurs,
bearing sttilT and colours a ia miiitaire.
Bats Hying about and rtiplilea filling up the
foreground of both pictures, while shadowy nion-
Hters occupy the parts not illumed by the light
issuing from the infernal caverns.
In Callot's engraving of the *' Temptations of
3t Anthony/' where the arch-enemy, overshadow-
ing the whole picture, vomits devils of every con-
ceivable shape upon the poor saint^ I find some
resemblance to my mezzotint. In this and No. 1
there is notably the corrospoading incident of tbe
holy man in the grasp of the winged demoHi
which suggest that all may be but varied concep-
tions of St, Anthony's troubles, of which there
are, I believe, many pictorial versions. J. 0,
Author Wanted. — 'Wlio was the authot
Sxerci^Sf hiftnwtive and Enter taifimg,, in Fi
English, seventh edit, 8vo, Leeds, 1799?
stated in the preface that '^ tbe fblli
were written for the accommodatioii
au thorns own school.^* The first edition
dates in 1788* My copy having lost tbe
or two (after 110)' I should like to com;
There ia a work with a similar title, about
same dates^ by John Perrin, W,
BRrDOETTiNE NuNS. — In what year did
nuns of Syon return to England, and what n
her of The Tiine$ or Evening MaU contained acoo-
cise history of tbe slaterbood, written on the
occasion of their return F Djlyid Ho'
[Ao account of the return of twelve ntins to Eogl
of the ancient Convent of Syon llouse, ot, as they
sometimes called, Bridgettine Nuns, ftppearcd la
Hampthirt Oir^nicU of Sept. 7, 1861, and wjid
into The }Feekly Rtghitr of Sept. 14. 1^61, p. 7,
are now locnted at Speliabury convent in Donetftliii*.
Consult also Fuller'a Church' Nittory, book ru iect L
38-40, and Chambeni'B Book of Day*, it 105,1
Chattvik^isme.— What is the origin of the wosi
Chauvinisme f It occurs in a pamphlet addztssid
by Mr. Karl Blind and two other Gennaiis A^
Pettpk frim^aii et ^ son AsBimbiSe national ft utA i?
dated London, Feb. 1871, L. V. iv
[Littr^, in hb admirable Dictionnaire de ta Laatfit
/r«nftjij)r^ definwi Chauvmitme ** sentiment du Chanria**;
and ex[dflinii,*»CAcjiini*, nom d'un personnage de qadqnn
dfijkiiliis populaireti, qui, exprimant dcs aentiment^ d'ufl
putriotiamt^ aveugle et <^troit &u aojet dea -
rovers de Napoleon f*^ est devenu le oom d
des sentimcntf exoger^a et ridicules de patri"^*'^>^^ '^< -^
^erre. C'csst tenir ua langage de Chauvin*'"]
The CHEVKON.^Whatisthe heraldic an tbanty
for the belief that the ancestors of those who bow
a chevron on theijr armorial shield visited tbt
Holy I.«and in the time of the Crusades P S. ?»
Kxeter,
CtEKENTij^K CuviER. — VVill wiy Correspondent
of « N. k il" kindly inform the author i»f On «lt
Edge of the Stonn where the Memoir of ClemefdtM
Cuvierj daughter of the great tavant, can be met
with ? It IS mentioned and quoted from in the
I^^orth Britisfi EevieWf but no bookseller can git*
any information respecting it
f The Memoir of Clement m« Cwiert by th« Bev. M"k
VVilks, first appeared in the Evangeiicat Mtton:
Feb, law I and this interesting tnt-morial i:d tbr :
the beautiful Clementine, >viiA reprinted by John An >«
James of Uirmioji^hiini, with ** Hedectiona,*^ Se« hbc '
Iccted H^orkSf edit. ItfGO, iv. SOd."}
CoRUKTT OF Chadbesley-Cobbett, Co. Wc>i»|
CE8TER.— Can any one tell me how this frmilfj
was connected with the Corbels of Caue and WaT
tlesborough ?
It appears that in 17 Ed, I. Roger Corbet d\t^ j
seised of lands in Worcestershire and GlattO«#t«r- 1
shire, leaving William, his aon and htkp then ••
i»*6.VlLMATl3^"7lO
NOTES AND QUERIES.
409
under age ; and tbat A!d&» the motBer of the Baid
Hoger, oeld a third part of the manor of Cliaddee-
lej in dower. (Eech. 18 E. I. 27.)
The aaid Ald« or Ada waa the widow of a
William Corbet, and it appears from her pos1>
mortem inq^uisition (19 Ed. I, 8), that she held
the whole of the manor of *♦ Imeneye " of Peter
Corbet by reason of the minority of William, the
Mm and heir of Roger Corbet^ who w&b also her
heir. n, S. G.
Drbak of Elizabbth be l'Abchk. — Can any
of jour correspond enta thxow any light on thia
subject; and if it be not, aa I rather BU9p«?ct,
altogether a myth ? T. C. S.
Eggs as af ARncLE op Food.— I cannot call
to mind any mention in the sacred writings of
this moat nutritious of animal subijtAnces. 1 may
SAT the same of the profane authors, with the
exception of Plutarch in his Morak^ I caiiDOt
recall where; but he records, either of himself or
by the mouth of his colloquists, a partiality for
the egg of the domestic fowl. Was there any
f«4iaon (religious or superstitious) for their avoid-
ance by Jew and Gentile ? J. A. G.
Cariabfooke,
^Our correspondent** query will, we thinkt be fally
caswered by two familiar passages — ^'^ Or if he BhaJl aak
an «ggr wtfl he offer him a soorpion P" (Luke xi. 12) ;
•fid the evidence aa to the Geotik use of egga it shawn
in the Latin proverb : ** Ab ovo usque ad mail,**]
Gates, Isle of Mak,— In Mill's Ordinances
and Statutes of the I«h of Man (ed- 1821, p. 12),
mention is mad© of ** A Court of all the Commons
of Man, holdeo at the Castle of Rushin betwixt
the Gates by Henry Byron, Lieut, of Man, upon
Tueadaj next after the xx*'' day of Chrietmas,
anno domini 1430." What is the meaning of be-
twixt the gates, and on which day of the month
was the court held ? A^ E» L.
" The Greatest Clerks abe wot the Wisest
Me^.'* — Who is the author who originated the
foUnwing phrase: "The greatest clerks aie not
the wifi4»st men *' ? J. IL
£The line cornea from Chuucer : —
•* Tbe petest clerk es b^-n not the wiieat men.
At whilom to the wolf thus spake the mare,"^ —
•nd wiU b« found in The Revet Tak {I 4052, Tyrwhitt'a
<bditi<"in), and not in The MiUer't Tale^ as errotjcously
•tAted bj' M r. Thorns in hia notca to Caxton's Reynard
the Fox^»n error which bus been repi^aied by other
writers. The pbrAse is alio to be foimd in Reynnrd,
where tbe incident of the wolf and the mare, to which
Cbaocer refcrsi, will be found; see p. 86 of Mr. Thomas
teprint; And in Johoaoa^s Dictionary (see edJtjoi] by
JLathflm^ #. r. ** Clerk **) a similar paaMge h quoted from
South : ** The greatest ckrka being not always the
bonestest, any more than t^ie wisest men/*]
BfiBiiLBic. — I possesa an old silver seal, with
mimfi as follows : — Or on a cberron eng^railed aiurei
three Maltese crosses argent. To what family do
these arms belong P F* G, L.
6f Lambeth Terrace^
Two brothers many and leave iMue male* Tbe
elder line dies out entirely at the end of some two
hundred vears, but in the meantime heiresaes have
broug^bt fresh quartering a into their coat armour.
W^hen the jounger «on a deecendants become the
representatives of both lines, do they also bear
quarterings brought by the beireaaeB into the
elder line before it became extinct ?
W. H. IL 0.
Joan D*ARC.*-Some years back a book came
out denying that the Maid of Orleans was burned
at Rouen, and affirming thmt she simply retired
into obscurity. It added, that '* The Maid " mar-
ried and bore children, whose descendaota did, for
several generations, receive a pension from the
French crown in acknowledgment of the servicea
of their anceatreas. Of the lit!© of this book I am
totally ignorant ; but I have been informed that
it was reviewed in Tfw AtJientBumf and thinking
it likely that mnny persons may remember that
review, I am tempted to appeal to tbe good nature
of any one able and willing to tell me in what
year this ref lew appeared,
Noell Radbcliffk,
[The i^roaiidfl of doabl which of late j^ears have ri«Qn
among French antjqoaries as to the horetofore unque'^-
tiotied fact of tbe death of Joan d'Arc at Eotten, appeared
in a privaldy-printed volume eDtitl«d Dome hittttrimtt^
by M. Octave Deleplerre, the learned Belgian consul in
Kagland. An analysis of tliis work will he found in The
Athetueum ofSi.pt. 15, 1655, p, 1047. CoELsult also ChacD-
l>€rs*8 B<Myk of Dayt, I 702; and "^N. & Q.," 2»* & Ui.
447,512; 3'<i S. iL 46, 98. 1
Kipper. — What are tbe derivation and mean-
ing of this word as applied to salmon ? It is
thought here to be tbe sAroe as keeper, Webster
delinea it " lean and unfit for use,"
A. MlDDLETOir.
School House, Kingsbridgc, S, Devon,
Mak Traps and Spring GirF8.^Wben I wna
young, I was often deterred from trespassiog by
the ominous warning: '* Trespassers beware I man
traps and spring gnn^ set liere/* 1 see none of
flucE warnings now. Are they out of date, or have
they been abolished by law ? If tbe latter, when Y
George Llovd.
Cranrlington.
[By an act, 7 & 8 Geo. IT. c. 18 (May 28, 1827), any
person setting any spriiig-j^un« man-trap, or other eugiae
calculated to de»lroy life, or intlict grievnuB bodily
harm, was to be go Illy of a misdemeanour. The act did
not extend to Scotland. By the fourth clause, ipring-
gun*. &C.J mijjht be set inside a dwelling-house for the
protection thereof, from Banjwt to stinnae.]
The Queen: Empress of India. — What is
the date of the Londan Gasette in which Queen
41*
NOTES AND QUERIES, [4t*s,vii.MiTis,*Tt.
iTictoria ^as gazetted *' Empreas of India," tbus
offiCMilly aeeuming that title r" M, W.
[We do not Vtii'vp thnt aaj ancli prodanjoUoa has
1 ' ■ ■ T ,1. The Quecn» in her pro-
India, niftdR known to them
f; .ni Allahabad, <Uted Xov. 1,
I6it6, dercriU-H lieT»«lt us ^* Victoria, by the Grace ofOod,
of the TTnitpil Kin«fl«)in of Gr«ftt Britain adcI Irfetanct,
and (<r :' ' ' 1 Bependendes thereof, in Europe,
Asia. I lid AastmliA, Qtieen, Dvfimder of
the Bill t he prodamatJOD, constituting the
Order of ilm 6t«f i/f India (in the London Gattitt of June
26, 1S61), the < Jut'<?ii appoints ** her Heirs and Succt'^ssorfs
Kingy and Queens Kofrnaut of the United Kingdom, to be
Sovwfigfts of the Order/']
*^The Shritjjs of Parnassus/' — 'Who waa the
Author of Tfic Shrubs of Purnm^m^ a variety of
pcKjticAl essays (London, 1760) ? ** J. Cop\ivell,
Esq, of LiDcoln^a Inn ^' is named aa tbe author,
but that is suppoaed to be a nom de plume^ espe-
cially as no mJtk name can be found on the books
of that society. H. T. E.
'* SntixKS, TO Mollt/*— 'Ulxo wrote this song,
as pven in Elegant Ktiractn, Svo, ** PoetiT,'*b. iv,
p, 845 of edition 1790 ; and alpr> " The Thought ;
or, A Song of Similes," on p. 847 ? Since writing
the above, on opening an octaTO volume entitled
Anlidute to Melancholy j I see the first-named song
ia set to a simple air for two vocalists; still no
author's name appears. W. P.
** Portrait of Lord SprxrE, who commanded
L Scot<?h Regiment serving under Gu^stavus Adol*
pbuii, by George Jameson, No. 231. Lent by the
i.ftrl of Crawford and Balcarras " (vide Catalogue
of the litte Rxhibition of Old Masters in Burlington
House). Of what family was Lord Spynie 'f and
what is known of his career and adventures
beyond the facta stated above ?
NoxLt RADKCLrPPE.
[AlexandfiT, eecoud Lortl Spynie, of the Lindsay family,
ittceeoded his futher in l4i07, andtbo sami? year ba*rn
charter to him and Joanna Ikiuftlafl bis wife of se\'¥ml
landi in Forfa rehire. Ht? fought in (Jennanv under the
bannera of Gustavus Adolpiius* and acquircif hi;^h Tppu-
tation as a brave and gallant officer. He married^ tlrst,
Jnannn Donj^lni; secondly, Lady Margaret Hay» only
d'i ' 1 iJcorge^ first Earl of KinnonU high chau-
^' l:indi and by the la^t had issue two aon^ atid
i\\ ! j^, — DongWi Peeragej by Wood, LL 518.]
Walpolk's NAiiy-BRrsn. — In An E4$m/ on the
Study (fthe Hidonf qf England ^ by Major Samuel
Dales, F.S.A., London, lk>9, 8vo, tliia paa«iage
occurs at p. 193 : *' Walpole was expelled the
house, on a suffjfestioii that he had not used a
nail-brush/^ This incident is said to have hap-
pened during the reign of ^Vnne, about 1710.
\Vhftt can the above statement refer to ? I will
be verv thankful for any information on this sub-
ject, if known to ** N. & Q." Jas. THRtrpp.
Kilkennv,
WoRdiSTERSHlRB A»ii«»— I vdsh to «io«rUb
what arms were borne by the undennentioiied
eheritrs of Worcestershire : —
17,36. Isaac Snow of T n.
17m John Hart of ^ n-Stour.
1741, Nicholas Bennti mi jjH'inroaghloil.
1740. Tho. Watson of Bewdley.
1751, Geo. Holland of TeobufT.
176.3. Tho. Phillips of Stourbridge.
1 770. John Foster of Wordaley,*
17?^1, John Darke of Bredon.
1703, John Steward of Stone.
1797. Moses Harper of AMley.
1819. John Jeffreva of Blakebrook.
1828. Geo. Meredith of Berrington Court
An? genealogical notes and a deecription of l_
anns borne by the fallowing, who ocGar in a iMtj
of Worcestershire centiy dated 1000, wiU alio h$ i
thankfully rect^ifed : Carew of Littletoii| Km^
»oTi^ St^ton, Sly, Tyckridge, Tyrer of Ltitlef|i
Whitney of Croome. IL SYDNxr Or -— ■
Stourbridge.
Wrecks at Sea : tite Tymvle. — I have mA
mjtny friiitleAs endeavours to find an account rf
the wreck of iht* brig Temple, Mid\vinter murtw,
ttbout April, 1820, off the Caymanae in the Off-
ribean sea. The passengers and crew escaped, and
were substiqiiently brought to F.ri'.lftniL afltr A
month's sojourn on those islands, I ixtim
of the barque Thetis. The ownti iinttlf
vessel were .Tohn Bourke Rickette^ mercbiot id
Leadenhal! Street, and C. N. PdllntT of Hart**
ton House, Kingston-ott-Thames. I i^Iionld ht
much obliged to any correspondent who wouM
assist me in obtaining any newspaper rffoft flf
the above. There ought to be sxicb it recoriL Uj
object is to obtain the names of tbe paasextgera
lltpltrK.
MURAL PJUNTING IN STARSTON CHUKCO.
NORFOLK.
(4*'' S. vi. pamm; ml 40, 173, 245, 366,)
IMr. W^allku has invented anew theory <
subject of this painting, at the same time di
ing my view tnat it represents the death i
Blessed Virgin as ** so utterly untenable a. BW» I
position that it is mere wa^te of lime to conirfsr
it.'* Ho states that when he wrote in answer w |
F. C. H. he had not f»-- ^— i-- i,- ^ ^ul*utlk»«
baviog 8ince niinut' ij be <in»^
thi^ description by ' ^u. ....:l., — liratfltsa^
that all deductions from it fail. But '^thi*
writer '' has also studied them, and, with t^
* Mr. Feetor was a member of an axioiait Lii««M**
sbiro faintly noticed In Niehola*s hiatoiy of £]iSlOOiD^«
but the family urma are not given.
, TU.»Ut13,*71-]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
4H
bpwing now before bim^ is prepared to maiutaii^
Hticcuracy of his description,
^^e noWthcoTT put forth by Mil Waller is
mi tbe deUik ^ow ua an aliar with the cruci-
Ixion, a prio&t in chastihie standing by^ and roach -
M towjirds A tonfiored figoire, apparently to
PBftve the scroll or schedule which ht^ holJs, ami
', ^' ' ' ' tion. But thero is no altar,
rely the he^d of the bed,
iu|ipviiT:^u ><> .1 Mia ri .-^^luare poat standing on the
I^OUBd. The long side-piece of the bed comes
iloM tip to it ^ mid apparently HtA into it. Of tkia
ibntiifo be takes no notice : it is in fact subrer-
«i«e of bis whole theory, which will appear aa
ire proceed. I think I know what a ehambie is,
liter weamig one tor half a century; and the
Sgore reaching out his arms doe^ nU w«ar n
mamhkt bot a Mod of cope, or a mere cloak. The
pepresentfttion of the crucifixioD is merely a pic*
Uife or tablet} not ^tandioj^- in the iiuddie, nor even
lettr tbe middla of bis snppoead attar, hut nt one
socner — ta fact fixed up at the bedside. ^* That
rhicb hafl been called a shield/' he continues, *4s
Sextainly no shield at alV^ Very likely^ but it
K. never have been meant for a chalice, as he
lie '^should imagine it to hare been/' For,
y fotey the object is shaped like a shield, and
hr too laxge for a chalice, and has neither ateoi
ior foot The figure, remember, is stretching out
Ub kaiide, neither of which appears to hold ih^
rirield; and what then r ^ >1 ^ » -^hftlice be for P It
maj swea be a piece ol v attached to the
imm of the h(;^ure staL i...^ ..ad. But haying
baigined an altar, he of course wanted a chalice,
Kod so a large ^ii^ shield-like object is made to
to djttj for a rtnmd^ cupped, stemmed, and footed
** There is/' he adda, *' a diapered corerintr^ which
i cannot thi ok is i aten d ed lor a bed / ^ ^' o, indeed ;
far it is an upright screen of wood or some solid
material painted in diaper, and standing up as a
IMititaon on the side of the bed. It has no bend,
nor fold, nor does it show the least sign of bein^
i covering. ** In front of thi^ covering,"
jmesy ^' is what nppesra to be a carved
This is simply the lower part of the bed-
, not standing at all distant from tbe obji*et
i described, but dush with it ; and, »s I before
i, joining up to the thick post at the bed's
i, and not projecting before it. This puts an
OEtiiigiiiaher at once upon the idea of its being a
caryed tomb some way before the altar. What
aw we* now to think of Mr. Wa^ller's dogmati-
cal dectnoQ ? " What I prrmmmce to be an altar
bia endently been mij^talfen for a pUlow.'' Who
an altar supported by a thick square
cted with a long side piece of a bed-
' jR^s new theory. He
jnta the death of St.
Hary Magdalctn. She had preached at Marseilles,
she lived in the desert, and had frequently the
commnnioa of angels. Feeling her end to be near,
she sent word to Masimin, Bishop of Aix, that sh«
would iippear at a certidn hour in the Qrntoty in
which he performed his devotions. Msximin at*-
corditu/ltf tmmfiibltfd the cler^t^^ and went into tbe
oratory at the time appointed, and there found
tbe luunt, who, haying partaken of the Sacrament
of our Lord's Body, afterwards died in front of
the altar. Maximin aftefwosde ordered Ida tomb
to be made close to the spot Ms. W^allkr pro*
iBaeee to take this from the old German accounts ;
bat why did he not quote them fairly and cor-
rectly ? To have done so would have been fatal
to bis new speculation. The siunt sent to inform
tbe bishop that he was to go into his church, not
his private aratoiy, on the following Sunday at
the hour of timiim, not at the hour of wmww, and
he waa to go idGne^ not amemhlh^g hts chrffjf, as
Mr. W^alleh required for his explanation. IXere
is the German original i —
*' Nun hAi mir got gefordret sn den ewtgen lebea das
aolt du dum bischofT MarimiDo rn^en uod allea dss du von
jmir gehijtt haat uimd spnch yrmnd cr an den Suntsg za
iDettia auffstee, ao soli er tdieyn in die kirchat goea io
findet er mieh dariud.'* — Pafnonal, 1477,
Though Maxim in ordered his own tomb to be
made near that of tlie aaint^ he at first httd a
marble tomb mode for her| and Imd her in it.
** Da tiieasMitxJmiauseia mannal5teimn sarch machen,
tiM kfftt Mariam Maffdalenam darem" — Ibid,
Mr. Waller indeed fails com|*letely in bis
application of the legend to the painting at Staa^
ston. There is no altar and no priest in eucharis-
tic vestments, as he represents, and inddfed neither
could have been useu at the midnight hour of
matins ; and though the Holy Communion was ad-
ministered, it was not by a priest, but by a bishop.
** The diapered covering," he says, *' is doubtless
over the dead body.^' But it stands up as straight
as a wall, and is not calculated for any sort of
covering. Then he imagines the conspicuous lady
to be a princess converted by St Mary Magdalen,
and afterwards restored to life by her mterceadon ;
but this fails in every way. Frjr the scene, Mr.
Waller says^ is the death of the mtnt^ snd we
have ju^t seen that no one was present at that
but the bishop. Jloreover, St. Mary Magdalen
had lived m a cave for thirty years without seeing
any human being. Was it* likely that a lady
converted so long before would have even known
the time or place of her death Y The same objec-
tions apply to his supposition that the veiled
figure near this lady would be ^lartha ; for she
lived away from her sister in her monastery at
Tacrascona, had never seen her sister for at least
thirty years, and may even have died before her,
I think we may now apply to Mr. Waller'%
new theory his own wotds\ '*\^. \& ^» wNXfc^^ "«s^-
Em
410
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*»'S.T
Victoria was gazetted " Empress of India," thua
officially assuming that title r M. W.
[We do not believe that anj such proclamation hae
been inserted in the Gazette, The Queen, in her pro-
clamation to the people of India, made known to them
bj the Oovemor General from Allahabad, dated Nov. 1,
1868, describes herself as ** Victoria, by the Gmee of God,
of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland,
and of the Colonies and Dependencies thereof, in Europe,
Asia, Africa, America, and Australia, Queen, Defender of
the Faith." While in the proclamation, constituting the
Order of the Star of India (m the London Gazette of June
26, 1861), the Queen appoints " her Hdrs and Successors,
Kings and Queens Kegnant of the United Kingdom, to be
Sovereigns of the Order.*']
"The Shrubs op Parnassus." — ^Who was the
4Uithor of The Shrubs of Parnassus, a variety of
poetical essays (London, 1760) P '* J. Copywell,
Esq. of Lincoln's Inn '' is named as the author,
but that is supposed to be a nom de ptuniSy espe*
dally as no sucn name can be found on the books
<^ that society. H. T. K
** SmiLES, TO MoLLr." — Who -wrote this song,
as given in Elegant Krtracts, 8vo, " Poetry," b. iv.
p. 845 of edition 179C ; and also " The Thought j
or, a Song of Similes," on p. 847 P Since wnting
the above, on opening an octavo volume entitled
Antidote to Melancholy y I see the first-named song
is set to a simple air for two vocalists; still no
author's name appears. W. P.
"Portrait of Lord Sptnie, who commanded
a Scotch Regiment serving under Gustavus Adol-
phus, by George Jameson, No. 231. Lent bv the
£arl of Crawford and Balcarras " (vide Catalogue
of the late Exhibition of Old Masters in Burlington
House). Of what family was Lord Spynie .^ and
what is known of his career and adventures
beyond the facts stated above ?
NOELL RaDECLIFFE.
[Alexander, seoond Lord S{>yiiie, of the Lindsay family,
succeeded his father in 1607, and the same year had'n i
charter to him and Joanna Douglns his wife of several '
landa in Forfarshire. lie fought in Germany under the
banners of Gustavus Adolphus, and acquirea high Tppii-
tation as a brave and gallant officer. lie married, first,
Joanna Douglas; secondly, Lady Margaret Hay, only
daughter of George, first* Earl of Kinnoul, high chan-
cellor of Scotland, and by the last had issue two sons and
two daughters.— Douglas's Peerage^ by Wood, ii. 518.]
Walpole's Nail-brush. — In Ayi Ensmj on the
Study of the History of England y bv Major Samuel
Dales, F.S.A., London, 1*809, 8vo, this passage
occurs at p. 193 : " Walpole was expelled the
house, on a suff^stion that he had not used a
nail-brush." This incident is said to haye hap-
pened during the reign of Anne, about 1710.
What can the above statement refer to P I will
be very thankful for any information on this sub-
ject, if known to " N. & Q." Jas. Thrupp.
Kilkenny.
\VoKci:sTERsnmB Arms.— I wi
what arms were borne by the i
sherifts of Worcestershire : —
1736. Isaac Snow of Tredington.
1739. John Hart of Shipston-on
1741. Nicholas Bennot of Belbr<
1749. Tho. Watson of Bewdley.
ordsley.
1781. John Darke of Bredon.
1793. John Steward of Stone.
1797. Moses Harper of Astley.
1819. John Jeffreys of Blakebro<
1828. Geo. Meredith of Berringt
Any genealogical notes and a des
arms borne by the following, who
of Worcestershire gentry dated IGC
thankfully received : Carew of Lit
son, Seaton, Sly, Tyckridge, Tyrer
Whitney of Croome. H. Sydney
Stourbridge.
Wrecks at Sea ; the Te^iple.
mriny fruitless endeavours to find
the wreck of tho brig Temple, Mid
about April, 1829, off the Cayman
ribean sea. The passengers and ere
were subsequently brought to Er
month's sojourn on those islands, b
of the barque Thetis. The owners
vessel were John Bourke Kickett
Leadenhall StrtM-t, and C. N. Palli
ton House, Kingston-on-Thames,
much obliged to any corresponde:
assist me in obtaining any newsp
the above. There ought to be such
object is to obtain the names of the
Kcpltrir.
MURAL PAIXTIXO IX STARSTO
XORFOLK.
(4^** S. vi. passim; vii. 40, 172,
Mr. Waller has invented a new
subject of this painting, at the same
ing my view that it represents the
Blessed Virgin as " so utterly unt
position that it is mere waste of tir
it.*' He states that when he wroti
F. C. H. he had not the drawing by
having since minutely studied its d
the descriptirn by " that writer " ii
that all deductions from it fuL
writer " has also studied thenif li
* Mr. Foster was a member of m.M
abire family noticed in Nichok*! I
but the family arms are not given.
412
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[i<*avn. MATia.fi.
tenable, that it is mere wasta of time to oon-
Bider it"
I adhere, then, to my original interpretAtionj
that the painting repreaents the death of the
Blessed Virgin Mary.
I have two mediaeval woodcuts of her death,
the details of which sufficiently warrant the con*
elusion that the saoae subject is represented in
the Starston paintinor. In each^ the three Apostles
Peter^ James, and John are standing doie to the
bed ; and in one of them St. John wears a cope,
and extends his hands oTer the bed. In the other
St James folds his hands upon his breast, ju9t as
he does in the fieeco before us* As to the prin-
cipal female fijjfure, she has a veiy remarKable
chignon confined in a net, and a ftinciful head-
dress with etringa under her chin, exactly accord-
ing with the modem fashion ; but I can see
nothing that could be meant for a coronet. I take
her to be one of those devout females who at-
tended upon the mother of our Lord, and ehc may
be Seraphia, who was a rich lady long intimate
with the Holy Family, The figure holding the
scroll agrees completely with the mediflBval re-
presentations of ot Peter* We may dismiss the
speculation as to the inscription on tie mfoU, and
the miracle which Mr. Walleb would connect
with it, because the reading is uncertain, and the
miracle could not have happened at the death
scene of St. Mary Magdalen, because no one but
the bishop was present, and also becauee the
miracle never happened at the saint's tomb at
Alx, but at Vezelay in Burgundy, whither her
tomb had been transported many years after her
death, go Mr. WiXLSB's new theory breaks
down completely.
I had auduced the two angels carrying up the
soul to heaven as collateral evidence, testifying
to the immediate assumption of the Blessed
Virgin. I know, as well as Mr. Waller, the
Hastings brass and other similar cases; but I
wished to protest against similar presumption
with respect to others than saints. He told us in
his former paper (p. ITS) that, as none of the
figures have tne nimbttSf the omission is of itself
a fatal objection to its representing the *' death of
the Virgm." Does he not see that it must be
equally fatal to the subject being the death of St.
Mbit Magdalen? But in realitjr it would be
fatal to neither, for many examples are met with
where even the holiest of persons — Jesus Christ
himself — is represented even in old cuts and sculp-
ture without a mmbti9.
I am content now to leave the reader to deter-
mine whether my opponent has shown that '^very
extensive acquaintance with mediaeval art,'' with-
out which he pronounced it *' very danprerous to
dogmatise.*' F. C. II.
DATE OP CHAUCER'S BIRTH.
(i^ s. viL ssa.)
Mr. Thoms^s argument would hare been allowt-
able twenty years ago; but now that th« Ke^er
of the MvS8.' in the British Museam, llr. E. A
Bond, has printed the entries in the HoosehoLd
Book of Elizabeth, Countess of Ulster, and wife
of Prince Lionel, son of Edward IIL, ahowiog
payments to or for Chaucer three times in the
years 1350-9, when he was probably her pag<»*
and now that modem criticism, in tne penonicf
Professor Ten Brink and Mr. H. Brad^aw, bi
shown that '* The Cuckow and the Nightiugals''
m not Chaucer's — it is rather hard to aak oi to
accept the old suppositions that satiated tha lut
generation,
I contend that there is no need to alter ths H.
of the Scrope and Groavenor roll to ix. Bun^
Chaucer must have told the recorder that ba «»
forty and more« as well as that he had htm
armed for twenty-eeven years. The Icttor illll
is assuredly right, for it gives us the Tear fll
Edward Ill.*8 expedition to Frauce, iSSS^ la
which Chaucer was taken prisoner. Then why
should the former date be wrong? Suppott
Chaucer bom in 1340 ; he is then a page to PitOtt
Lionel's wife in 1350-D; and, witn the proM^
joins Edward's army in 13^0 at nineteen ymmd
age — a much more 'likely period for a yoiiag fil*
low in that day to take to arms, than tne thtiti^
one that the 1328 date would make him. &
poet's '^resldeDoe at Oxford or Cambridgi^flral
any Inn of Court, ^* is all gammon and gueai;|^H
IS no evidence for it. i^^^
Next, one of Chaucer's earliest poema la ^
Dethe of Blaunche/' in 1469. It is eeeentiaU;
the work of a young hand^ of a man under tiuriy*
and not of a mature age like forty-one or fort?*
two, HA the 1S28 date would make Chaucer at t»
time— an age at which he might have writtn
The Home of Fame, The early date for Chaocsr**
birtb would force us to suppose that he wr9^
6uch t^es as the Reve's ana Miller^Sy brimfttl4'
fun as they are, when he waa between t&xtj I
sevent>^ and would otherwise make e iDeei of 1
chronology of the poet's works-
Occleve's portrait of Chaucer is surelT out i
a man not above sixty. He doubtless p^tedl
master as he saw him, shortly liefore his death.
F. J. FlTEIflTAtt*
Will Mr, Thoms allow me to remind him thit ]
Shakspere's description of Chaucer's frienii tsd
pAtron as " old John of Gaunt^ time-hocooid J
Lancaster,'* is little less remarkable than Chaiieit^ J
mippoeed defscription of himself as '< olde andj
lusty " at tifty-two ? John of Gaunt did i
to Bee hia fifty-ninth birthday. Is it notlfl
confirmed by statistics, that tie average dsntu*
Jfa
4«» a VU. Mat W. 71.]
KOTES AND QUEEIES.
of life U longer now than in the Middle Agea,
AD d therefore men were then considered old at an
earlier time than now P IlEEM:EiriBUD£,
Assuming that Chaucer waa aged sixty in Oct
IS^y SLA suggested by Mr, Thoms, it would follow
that he was armed at thirtv-three (60 — 27 = 33).
la Dot thirtv-three somewhat too old for a aquire
to enter military seirice ? A. H.
THE MEMORY OF SMELLS.
(4»»' S. vi. 297 J Tii. 178.)
Bar-Point quotes incorrectly from HiuEtt
That fine essayist, in his delightful disquisition on
the Teaaons "'Why Distant Objects Please," re-
marks that " souncfs, smells, and sometimes taates
torn remembered longer than visible objecU, and
ferre perbaps better for links in the chain of
•apodation/' This is the exact opposite of the
**«trange assertion " that " it is impossible to re-
member smells.*^ IIa?.litt was far too acute an
abaerrer of metapbysiciil fncts to make any such
MKH flop. The illustrations he gives of bis own
■tfttement are abundantly amnsing. He himself
dutinctly remembered the taste of barberries,
iToeted by a North American winter^ and oaten
tfair^ years before. He quotes from John Fearn^a
JBtM^ on Comcimuneu bow this strong, solitary
thiiilm never lost the memory of the smell of a
bilced^s shop in a by-street in the city of Bassorah,
oar the peculiar flavour of kangaroo eaten in New
Holland, and of some fruit eaten in Jamaica
twcnt^-eigh t years pre vionsly , Most self- observers
can corrooorate these experiences of sensation
ftfsm. their own personal recollections, I once
dinedi twenty years since, on a stew of paddy-
miloai — the local name of a smaller specie* of
Innpioo — in a northern district of New South
Wales. like John Feam, I can stil! recall the
partieular flavour of that banauet at any moment,
f?o, also, the memory of ray tirst nasal sensation
derived from a boiiing-down eAtablishment in this
cotintry will ever remiun with me* A boiling-down
establishment, I may explain, is one where abeep
Me boiled down for their tallow. But of all re-
miniscences of smell and taste com men d me to the
accounts which travellers give of their first ac-
QMintanoe with that extraordinary fruit, the
Qiiiiftn» which grows so plentifully in the islands
of the Indian Archipelago^ When fully ripe this
faut gives oat an overpowering stench — something
fnite indescribable, and far transcending the two-
■nd-fieventy separate stinks which Coleridge de-
ekred be conn ted up in the city of Cologne. But
l^t the first disgust be got over, and the fruit be
«irlv fastened upon, and it yields to the conrage-
^ttt eater a flavour surpassing in richness that of
j^ other fruits in one luscious combination. I
^Te beard tbeae facta &om travellers myself, but
they are fully stated in Wallace's recent book of
travels in the Indian Archipelago.
One other personal illiistratton I shall add.
Within a short distance of the place where I write
these lines stands the Chinese quarter of Melbourne,
Let an^ average Englishman, with all his natural
senses m reasonable activity, take a ramble through
that portion of our city, and I defy him ever to
forget the peculiar smell which will there and
then regale his olfactories. Even Shakapeare
could not imagine anything in that line going be-
yond " a most ancient and tiahlike smell ; but the
odour I am sfjeaking of beats this by many de-
jrrees. De Quiocey would have described it as
immemorially old, distinctly Asiatic, heterogene-
ous, and unspeakable. D. Blair.
Melbourne.
In opposition to Hazlitt and Psi^oiira, and in
agreement with Bar-Point, I think it quite pos-
sible to remember both smells and tastea. Let
Pelagius smell to a bottle of eau-de-Cologne,
and ask himself whether it does not differ in smell
from vinegar or musty parchment. Will he not
say that it does, and will he not at the same time
recall in his memory the smell of yinegar or musty
parchment P Let him taste a piece of sugar, and
iisk himself whether it does not differ m taste
from salt or Spanish liquorice. Will he not say
that it does, and will be not at the same time
recall in his memory the taste of salt or Spanish
liquorice ?
If he is asked, after being blindfolded, to taste
or smell something of which the name is not told
him — say vinegar — will he not know by the aid
of hi-? memory that it is vinegar, recollecting the
taste and the smell of the vinegar of which he
had experience when his eyes were openP By
what other means bat by his recollection of the
ordinary smell and taste of vinegar C4in he know
that what is offered to him is vinegar ?
Does not Pelagfus confute himself and Haatlitt
when be says that the odour of old documents
long laid by in a drawer always reminds him of a
certain brass-bound mahogany desk of his P Doea
he not at the very time compare the odour of thaj
documents with the odour, which he bears in big
memory, of the desk ? Surely be does not con-
ceive tnat be compares or associates the odour
of the documents with the/orwi of the desk ? The
odour of the documents, I consider, recalls the
similar odour of the desk, and the odonr of the
desk recalls by association the form of the desk j
but the comparison or association, in the first in-
stance, is not of the heterogeneous, but of the
homogeneous, not of odour with form, but of
odour with odour. Zetetes.
I fear that I must totally disagree witb Hazlitt
and his heretical backer, PsuioiuSy upon thia
414
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[i^avu^MATii^^
point ; for, thougk no doubt certain flmelk ue as^
aociated with certain visible objects in the mmaorj
and incTitably recall them, it acema to me to be
ft perfectly natural and ^asj effort of the memoiy
to recollect a scent without identifying it with
any time or thing or place ; and t*o, al«o, I fancy i
could remember a cert4iin peculiar touch without
connecting it with anything else. It would be
often tt subsequent proooat ot the mind to inquire.
Where did I smell, er wlrare did I feel this be-
fore? Wliat waa tiie object that ao smelt or so
felt?
If it wew (yliierwiae, I Tfntur© to auggaat, by
way of an eaperimmdum eruck, that a blind peiaon
woald baTe no memory for anything except
C, iV, BiNGHJLM,
If the eyea and ears are the only organa by
which we have any power of udng memory, it
follows that persons both blind and deaf can have
no memory at all. Would Felaoius assert this ?
I remember well the stink that awoke me one
night some years ago in Paris^ and it was pitch
dark and perfectly quiet.
Again; if Pei*aoius were t^ receive a eevere
kick behind, which, if administered adroitly, he
might neither see nor hear^ 1 think he would ac-
knowledge that ** tlirough the breach " you might
''reach the brain '^ and memory too,
W. M. R
I am surprised by the aaaertion of Pelagius
that ''it is impossible to remember smelk.'-
Surely this is contrary to the expenence ci every
man, woman, and child. He awia^ " the faculty
of memory can only be axercised upon objects
which have ))een aeen or impresflQons made upon
the organs of hearing/' More startling still. I
always hitherto thought that memory retained
and recalled impresdons made upon any of the
** five senses.-^ Is it not so ? Nor can I under-
stand how '* the old-world fr.igrance ^' of the yew-
trees in his garden should recall the Derbyshire
examples, but through the ** memory of smells,"
At any rate, at this moment I rememW as dis-
tinctly the odow as the farim of the fanujua old
yew- trees in the chuTOhyaj-ds of Beeley and Darley
in the county above-named. Pelaqios meutiotts
*' mental chemistTy/' but even that were powerless
to obHtorate from memory the memory of any
amell whatever, I).
SCEKA : 2KHNH'.
(i^ S. vii. 259, .334.)
There is no question that of words originally
belonging in common to both Latin and Greek,
those in the h&tm are of an older iotm, If dlC-
ferent, than the eqoivaleiit Greek ^otd*, «a mK^
ba ieaa by the frequent nae of the ohi
digammttf k^ppOf and mmpi^ as in oiroi,
rifi quis: ircrr«, quinque ; irAnrw, coquoi and
super; and the longer terminations of genitii
pluralf fiawfvv (tmw)f mmatorum: ao much
that except in the ^t and aecood d<
no circumtlex accent marks the contraetaoa f •»
that probably the Greeks tbemselvea were »-
aware of the longer original form, it not occnni«g
in any known book. 'With respect to the tcrmia-
atioQ of ffKnv^i {iimna)^ this word is only a speci*
men of a class. The first 17 is In the root, aad
BO unchanged ; but the termination vyas ^wtyi
doubtful in Greek. Thus the Boric piat « mhm
the Attic had tr, and tbe Ionic had n wtee tin
Attic used a. These dialects, aa th« aaoaa aaaial
styles of architecture, do not mark ooly, or fm*
haps mainly, the countries from whieli ikey look
their names, but the dfttes at which tbey |n-
vailed — ^j ust, for inatanoe, as we may fiad a oowa
style of architecture or form of apeocfa of aa <b-
tique kind lingering longer in one place thm
another. I take it then that the a tenninaliQBW
soma is older than the 17, and so letained la lli
Latin. Another kindred example ia -vDqrriK F*^
the first ti unchanged, Uie latter helxmgiag to ^
mination becoming a.
While writing of the antique form of
Latin words belonging doubtlees to the _^
common languages of the Italian and Otaek
migrants^ I cannot help noticing the en '
in which note and lexicon writera liaTa
or shirked the existence of the kopmm and
and directed all their attention to Ine
Thus Dr. Ilayman, in his edition of the Odymjft
stapplies a eUfomnm at each hiatna* Ha gitiii^
instance fott, Foi^c^ where the omitted latter SMR
be a koppa ; of. rot>, rorSf , rf t, ^wf, ifhftw, fiMfMV
&c., and in Mb. I. line 382, ^(rto^ has ilfiiiWi|
which should be kcf^nif as is clear if cooMn
with T^d-ot, woaoSf and qmrntus^ the Jfoppa m umk
either being left out or turned into ▼ or r.
Again, auroly there can be no diffammn t
= «Mis/ tiia letter wanted here, as in » 01
Ben^ tSf $iki, must be m»^: in mbi we bA^a
both sampi and dtgumma, and poanblj in 1^
(sums) and ^. Theee are only specimen exatapha
There are many othors where the missing kttarii
certain, more still where there ia no afidtf '
whatever that it was f (tUyamma)* It woolil
just as philosophical to put $an^m <
fdl as diffanvma^ though the mistakes
doubtiess be more numerous, us tfeatr
more words where the digammtm oaa iie
to have been omitted than the «tiber twa
letters. Still the use of than ia
alfdiabety aaid the evidonoa at theif
enoe in the common words, such aa
\ and ^roBQima, «how that it is qmte ae likaiy 1
\ ^teL«iBm^\ssMdu^ tha words of doabtCal
I ob%<>d to my two courteoua correspond-
for their hint* and replies^ but they have
ken the drift of my inquiir. I look on
: and Latin as brother and sister languages,
mnut and chOd, and wlahed to trace thiiir
pice in one specific word in the direction of
wnmon derivation, I suppose the final a
mbe latent in Greek which was eipreeead in
find that the latter roi^rht more closely coti-
^ a (»ay) Snnskrit origin al. Of this I did
enough to eay positively whether it
Kir not. I must »till, notwit branding the
eavours of my monitors, sabscribe myself
CETTLDREKS GAilES.
(4»»* S. tU. 141, 271.)
lid be intepeeting (mtppodng it to be
iwj ancient rhyme) to trace the variations
low many miles to Babylon ? '* My version
"^ k the Edinburgh ; Mb. Petjoellt's is the
end sow, midway, I find the StalTofdy as
r mmy miles to Babylon ? '
e score nod twentyHme/
1 w« b« thtre by candJc-Ught ? *
\ and back again.'
four gates aa wida aa tba slt^,
(King G^fge and hla borie pa«s by ! * **
hs were to aiid t*) *' again " to^ni^hif we should
^z«e counleta in^t^rad of alternate rhymes.
"^ ile-ligot '* reminds one of tho Scotch
7ake " (Border MinBtrchy) —
* Firs and deet and candJe-UffhtJ'
fif'AT*^ nn,! ten is a well-known Biblical
t'Q score and twenty-one seems
The mythical Dragon of China
tij thia ktter number of doz^ scales (or
l^l^ect of minting Babylon and returning
I ataggoflta the quaint topographical
of tSe period of the Crasadea, and ^
riB inediflBTal works to Prester John.
\ way, Marco Polo mentions that the two
» accompanied him into Armenia, being
t at the report of the invnaon of the Soldan
tiin, claimed the proti-ctian of the Master
(in that locality), who accord-
ra back to the coast
in another place, describing the
ster John, says thiMt the long then
71 f) was a deecendant of Prester
amed George, and that thia King
' \ kingdom OS a fief under theGrand
I have not seen the work by Mr, Chambers in
which this curious rhyme is noticed, but may
obaervB that no George and his horse occuj* in
anjr Scotch version, so far as I am aware. From
this it might be inferred that " St Gr«o?ge " was
the original text
Of courae it will be apparent that I am merely
catching at straws, and do not by any means
propose to call this a Templar rhyme, or even a
Crusaders, although our masonic brethren may
in certain chivalric degrees^ have appropriated
and amplified the idea. I mean no disre^ct to
these degrees, and I may add that one is apt to
dally with loose ideas when most sceptical and
hard to be convinced ; thus rerorsiiig the Ger-
man's * apophthegm, that the moatpiooa are tkoae
who can aHord to jest on grave eubjecta.
The following is from Dorsetiuiire, but the
metre and rhyme are defectire. The upraising of
the gate suggests a portcullis': —
" * Haw many mile^ to Babylon ? '
* Eipbty-eipht.*
* Can w<.' j^t tboro by
Crandle-ligjit ? '
' Hold uft Ute tjatt» a^ liigh as the sky.
And kt Kiug George and the Royal rain% pass by/'*
Heire, figain, is another Staffordshire rhyme : —
** Groen gravfil, graen gravel,
Tba ^rasft grows so green,
And all prttty maidena
Are tit to be seen.
We'll wji5h them in milk.
And clothe them in silk,
And write their names down ivith mkiu pen and ink."
The Pefl Collection or PicTtTEES (4*** S. vii.
228, 336.)— It 13 gratifying to iliink that, to the
many important services rendered to his country by
that Tery eminent statesman, the second Sir Robert
Peel, this " clanim et venerobile nomen " can
now bo added to the treasures of the National
Gallery ; government bavin g» I am told, obtained
for half its value, by desire of tho dowager Lady
Peel, the splendid works of art her noble hus-
band s refined ta^te had collected. Amongst them
Rubens' celebrated, but miscalled, ** Chapeau do
PaiBe.*' If I roistako not, it was originally named
m Flemish "Rpansche Hut" — the Spanish hat.
I know that spmihiit means chip*ha^ bat it is
evidently not a i<trnW'hai,
Wilkie's fine picture, too, of John Knox. But
is 77«r Atheiirmim correct in stating *' John Knox
preaching before Mary Queen of Scots *^ ? Ought
it not to I3e ** before the Regent Murray" — Mary's
brother P
I am not sure, being away from my bookSi
whether I ever mentioned in ***N, & Q." my visit-
ing Sir Darid Wilkie at Brompton in 1831^ wkllal
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«>SLvrnMAtjs»^i^
he waa busy pwntinp this picture, and my lending'
him a sworn of the period, which ho copied.
He had in his etudio a full-length portrait of
Qeorge IV, &b large as life, and twice as natural,
" in a Scotch kilt and tartans, with dirk and day-
more — a atupendous figure/' say a Thackeray. Also
a small eque^rian portrait oTf Queen Adelaidei
which waa not very remarkahle.
P. A. L.
Flag of thb New Gekjcaw Eirpmis (4*** S.
Til, 322.) — The extract from The Globnj copied
into The Times and thence transferred by LL P.
to " N. & Q.,** is, aa he implies^ uniEtelligible,
and evidently the composition of one who is igno-
rant of the A, B» C of heraldry.
My note of the new flag is, that it ia not mi-
partt^ but ** Paly of four, or, sa., giu, and arg/' — ■
but I neglected to append a reference to the source
from which my note waa derived*
Of course there are no such things as sup-
portere to a &ag: hut as the red, white^ and black
tricoloyr of the North German Copfederation was
depicted in a shield tierced in fess on the seals of
its consular and other oflicialsj I presume that the
new paly ensign will be similarly treated, and
supported, not by " the two IndiaDs armed with
maces of the Prussian crest" (!), but by the usual
savages, or woodmen, which perform that duty
for tne Prussian eiscutchoon.
This is not the first time that I have heaixl of
persons, presumably well educated, calling a coat
of arms a "crest" *' What a pretty cre*^ Lord
M. uses,*' was said to me only a week or two back,
the said "crest" being a quartered shield with
coronet, helmet, crest, and supporters — all com-
plete!
Mi^parti. — D, P, is quite correct in saying that
tills bearing is a very rare one ; but is mistaken in
his assertion that tlie coat of Panwitz, given in
the Wappenbtichf is not an instance of it,
Spener^s language (Opus Meraldicumt p. gen.
£. lOO) may appear a little ambiguous j and Guil-
m's vemon, *' Parted per pale and base gules,
argent, and sable,'- may be thought a fittiDg trans-
lation of ** De gueules parti d^argent soutenu de
sable " ; but when we prefer to obtain our infor-
mation at irat hand, and consult the JFappenbuch
itself f we find that Spener's examples — ^\Veiters»
Wittem, Volstedt, and Panwit2-*are exactly in-
atances of the bearing in question (Siebmach©r*a
Wappenbuch, voL i, plates 65, 136, 146, 147, &c)
Rietstap blazons the coat of Panwitz thus:
" Coup^ ; au 1 parti d'arg. et de gu., au 2 de aa
plein/' Against such evidence w© cannot accept
D. P/s statement, " this is not mi-pariV
German heraldry ia particularly rich in coats
formed by partition lines, many of the varieties
of which are unknown in the heraldry of other
ations. Before I became possessed of Rudolphi
Heraldica Oiriosa^ I commenced a collectiom ki
such singularities, and on reference to it I Ead 1
have recorded upwards of thirty inetmoea of n»-
parti in Germany and Switzerland alone.
Joirir WootnrAtSb
St. Marj*a Panonage, Montrose, N. B,
D. P. will find a correction of TTHe Timtd ds*
scription of the new German flaff in the **Tib>ls
Talk ' ' column of The Guardian, MftFch a, 1871.
W.J.L
GiTATS i\ MosariTOES (4*" S. vii. 352,)*— punor
the whole of last summer I was living b tkt
Essex Marshes, in the neighbourhood of Vietoni
Docks, and for four months of very hot w«atliv
I was subject to perpetual annoyance from mynaii
of insects, which penetrated into the rooms wh#
doors and windows were closed. The bite or
sting of these insects was poisonous, and to may
cases as serious as that described by J. M. C, m
they existed in such numbers that it was ^uili
impossible to enjoy the cool of the evening irit^
out being bit severely. The people who hrd ti
the marshes said that these insecta were av^
gtHioes^ that a few came over in the ships imof
the goods, and tbat when the shipa warn uaUdii
these came out, and bred in the marshe»; tloi
was confirmed to my knowledge by several ni^
captains, who said that the insects were the mbi
as the mosquitoes in the East, but much
1 should like to know whether moaqiutaei
known to breed in this country, as I was lol * ^
the same insects were seen in and aboatj
ampton. I was not so fortunate as J,
for by no means that I could deviae was I aUi'
protect my skin from these little maraudera
\V. 0.
The wound inflicted by the gnat ia rmtb^rl
sting than a bite, as the insect ia aeen to itfF
a long sting from its mouth, which appeal!! I
convey a poison similar to that of a wasp or a I
It may be useful to persons exposed to i'
noying insects, to be informed of an eff©~
servative from them at night When
in Germany, between fifty and sixty yean i
my bedroom at an inn overlooked a stable ;
The gnats in the evening arose too numeroii^l
formidable from this damp yard to allow aoj I
of rest or security from puncturea, Wati
complained of this terrible nuiaance, the ^
assured me tbat he could very soon reo
eviL He brought up a chafing dish full i
chips of juniper wood, and told me to i
this wood, the chafing dish heina placed i
middle of the room, and go to bed imme"
the smoke, I did so, and the room ^
with smoke, but of a pleasant aromaCte {
which was really agreeable. This
the gnats: they Issued out from the curti
every part of the room, hurzying to the i
» am. Mat 18, 71.]
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
417
lo e«cai>8 Bu location. Thea© beings at first closed
kly covered all over with gnats. Many
V I to make their escape when I opened
th<e wiiidows, and the rest fell dead or helpless;
^ that I hod a quiet comfortable uight. The
-: . ke of juniper wood appeaia to destroy gnats
speedily. F. C. H.
Mm. Thomas Beooks (4^ S. tii, 342.) — My
niefiioir, containing all that has come down rela-
t thia illustrioua and venerable Puritan, will
ind in my collective edition of his complete
:^ (6 Tols. 8vo)f published in Nichols's FurUan
pc, and I should suppose readily accessible
Ui Philadelphia to your correspondent
A, B. Gbosabt,
5l GeorgeV, Blackbtiru,
Mrs. Mart Chitbchixl, 1675 (4*'»S. vii. 234)
I am afraid I can only help Mr. C, W. BnroiiAM
further into the dilemma by stating that some
time ago I was rooting up this subject^ and jotted
down {authority unnoted) that her maiden name
was ** -UleUj'' and that she died *^ circa 1676,"
which is within about eighteen months of the
time as pven in register as quoted by Mr, Brsfo-
HAH, 1 cannot give the date of death or place of
borial of Sarah ^ nee Winstan, but as to the latter,
leg to sug^st Wootton Glanvil as likely ; or as
ItT 8011^ Sir Winstan Churchill, died March 26,
1688, and was interred at St Martin*s-in-the-
flelds, London, it is just probable that her re-
aams rest there also. Mrloomhs.
'*Jht Hob nf th« Well'* (4*^ S. vii. 201,
220, 310-)— 1 notice in Sotheran^s Catalogue, Feb.
I>f71 ' ^'—
" Hnn ia tlhS Wkll: or tbe Guanli*a OatwJUed. A
f'M.m, JliMiMiRMis mad MoraL PUtas, thin 12iso. (From
I^ iletirr CoUccUon.) 1769."
is this the ,^old fiuce" referred to by G.
Winxocx ? THoa. Siswa&dsok, Jnr,
tinctly incompatible with the supposition that it ^
is authentic. As to the form '* liegia Majestas/' fl
I know it has been said that the term '* Majestj '^ H
was not applied to any King of England oefore
Heniy Vlil. This may be true as regards the
EngUiih word ; but Henry VII. was addjessed aa
*' Sacra Regia Majestas " by Cardinal Hadrian de
Castello," and as *' Majestas Vestra '* by two other
cardinals. (See my LtUers of Hkhard JIL and
Henry VII., I 103, lOtl* ; ii. 112.) I suspect the
expression wss first used by Italian diplomatists
on the revival of letters ; and if so, it was not im* h
likely to have been employed by an Italian secre- H
tary^ who may possibly have coma to England
along with the legate Coppini. The letter cer-
tainly is in an Itfl^an hana« As to tbe style of
the Dukes of Milan, I have referred to the work
mentioned by Tewars. but it does not come down
far enough to decide the questicuL
Jaiob Qairdker.
Clak McAlpdt (4* S. vii, 180. 2^10.)— The
replies of Mag, and W. WniTEBa, Waltham Ab-
bey, confirm the statement I made in making
int^uiries concerning the existence and origin of
this claD ; namely, that all that relates to them
is of very vague and uncertain character. Mad.^
for example, says : —
" The dnofodaatA of King Alpia ai« sapposfid to hava
fonncd the elao Alpin. . . . Tbt Mseslpim of tbs praw&l
dsy I believe to be deacended from Ifacgrsgoft, sod tahavt
ssaamed tbe name when tbju of Macgr^;or was proscribsd.
. . . Who, knovriog the histofy of the Highlands and its
cIads,** and ao forth, *^ wuuld ftxpect to find . . . muni* '
meats establishing the descent of the variotD chi^ fromf
Kenneth Macalpin ? **
LAFcaraiBR WncKEs (A^ S. vii 237, 311.)—
"LmnwhtTC witches" and <' Cheshire cats'* are
Ife oaly oetmty sobriquets for ladiea that I know
t( and eertainly the Chesbire ladies are not
foiilBd as cats. I do not agree with Mr. Rat-
Ctiyn^ f:»r 1 think the ladies of other counties
IPOuH be as likely to take offence if given at a
Kk dkjmtsr as *'The Suffolk witchea," ''The
toahin^ witches,'^ as "^ The Lancashire witches ''
VwUd U if toiafed under any other than that
rribai fbniL Faocj the i>iat of the Lan-
lim Odr rme^^ If aocae ignaraot stranger were
l^fwae*^ Tbe !•&«!• P. P,
or EnwAM TV, (4* 8. viL 229, 312.)
m glad tkal mj paper hm elicited further cn-
Nm «r di« lafBi9i«Qf tliis document, ibiia
ggiMiets why the oiigiiial
to Immctiini. I may, Sow*
tbnt I tw nothing y«i di»*
It will be seen that supposition^ individual
belief ibunded on no cited authority, and an ad-
mission of the unreasanableneas oi looking for
documentary evidence, are freely avowed byMaa^
to exist in connection with tma subject,
far, then, the inquiry has not been rendered
satisfactory than it was when the query
raised.
Mb. WoriERa has my thanka for referring i
to the Baronage o/ScaUaiui; but it will be ae__
that, in the note to dan-AIpm^s Vow^ ^e belief]
of Mao. therein receives a direct cootmdictioo i*
for, while he snpposee the Ifanatoins to hsve
formerly been of lucgregan^ and to nave i
the name when tiiai ctf Mttcgregior ma prosciUMdy
BoflweU'a noCe tella ne thnt t^ gcoeak^jsi of the i
MacalpiBg end Mai^gregoca la the Brnmom e/j
SofOmi^Mm that tboee wk» Ind Moned tlie
niiae of MmO^ idopied tbe nvne of tlie Slee-
giegoB^ in ofder toMfilialia tbe iM of n ciaa
uMiie i»oweilnl iluHi iLeir 0VB, and than loil tisair
Toi
I do Boi sake the attaBpt; but 1 1
4m
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[ii^&iriLiUsVw^
body as the clan >£aca1pin, such a line of chief-
taiiiB Bs tho6€ of tho cUui^ and a pennanent place
of rasidenoe foi them, erer existed ?
CHTQircmB (4* S. Tii. 93, 261, 320.)— Voltaire
memtionB the chignon : —
■* lUdomoueQc, 6n faiaant froidc min«,
Ke daigne poa alder h la catsine ;
£Ue ae mire, ajuate fKm chi^fum**
The primary meaning of the word ia, ef comse.
" nape of the neck." But what is the etymology r
I was at first disposed to derive it from ivtov^ ** balck
of the head," ** nspe of the neck '' (Apurr, 2L A,f
J, 7, 2), with ft prefixed sibilant {ufiov — «mtian,
dmon^ cfUgnon). M6nage gives '^ chignmh du coUy
de catena ; c^dcrui^ vatenum, catenOf cateHoniij
chaigntm^ chiffnon: chiugnon nour chignon se tiouve
dans Nicot, et dans la Ballade do Villon, dans
laquelle Villon crie merci il tout le monde/^
Landais says, ** du mot Fran^-aia, cbaine, on a fait
chaignonf ot enstiite chiffnan : le derriere du oou.
Autrefois les femmes nommaient chigium les che-
veux r^trouss^s qui couvraieot leur chignon *' ^
and Roquefort gives, " chaigne, chaignmiy chamg~
fwn: le chignon du col, de catefui,'* lAttt6 says of
the etymology, ** le meme que ckamoii, par com-
paraisoQ au cbainou d'une chaine avec lea nodo-
ait<53 des vert^bres; Berry, coifpimi^ chagaonJ^
R. S. CiLAJlJIOCK.
Gxtty's Inn Square.
P.S. The word, in its primitive meaning, is
found in the thirteenth century corrupted driwn
to coon and chami ; in lo(KJ (J. de Meung^ Ted.)
it is written chaaignon^ ^md subsequently diaigmm^
cAmoNf i0oA^99MMV &nd chemon.
DlGHTOK CAaiCATrBBS { 3^*^ S. X, 13, &cO— I
have not yet seen anything further on this subject,
I poBeess a book containing eighty-two, the ad*
^tiDnftl ones being Mrs. IL Johttatotie in Timour
the Tartar and the Amaleui of Faahinu in the
cjiaracter of Lothario (Romeo Coates, the Cocky
Coatesof his day.)
I have a looee No. 35» the ** Lady of the Lake/'
sUghtly varied in the detailB. All my carici^-
tares, or rather characteia, ate coloured The
daughtera imdertook this department, and I have
often amused myself by helping them. The
** faded ink subscriptions *' were goneraliy written
by one of ** Diff^bton the younger s^* sisters,
I give some informatiQii wanting in Mb. Wood's
numbers.
No. ;30. The Duke of Queensberry.
No. 40. The Duke of Buckingham.
No. 71. Lord Fitzroy Somerset
No. 78. Brooke Watson, who had his leg bitten
oflP by a sharkf when he in his excess of poEtenesfl
wished to gire precedeoce to tha cieatnre in ita
own element
No. 80* Townpend, the Bow Street Runner.
Mem. 45. The lOih R of W. Begt.
dance/' &c«
There were two DightocDs; nftj, than
more.
De. Doran em In the epeUing of the
it was always without the e; and one who eoold
blacken the '^' e ' ' of another would scarcely hen-
late to apply anything but a detergent to lus
character. C'RirsGBixx.
Rash Statmociot : Gibbok's **Ih&CLnns ajb
Fall*' (4^" S. vii. 232, 273, 289.) -Mit Tew am
that his edition of Gibbon, ISIB, haa '■* an hoaiM
well disciplined soldisia.*' I lind the <4itiaa «l
1817 has the same, bul I hare latehr mat will
the edition of S. A. & H. Oddy, Oxford Street, 1^
or only fil'teen years after hia dea;^ ; it $af% * n
hundred tLousand." However, from taie |m-
graph which 1 gave at length, the meaning i»i(>
obvious that X am surprised that so acute a ciilb
as M&. Tew should not have aoe;n the omiaaim 4
the printer. CudOET.
Essays DivrNE, Moeal^ xnd ToLrnckij ITii:
Dean Swlft (a^** S. v. 27.)— One of your cpf-
respondents, M. S., inquires at this refer«Di» for
the name of the author of this pamphlet naaai
Dean Swift. Although many years nave elaplld
since this query was printed, sora*^ one may c«i
for an answer to the eilect that there can tsidlf
be a doubt of thie tract having been writteo by
Thomas Burnet^ son of the bishop, who was lik»"
wise author of tbo Secoftd Tale of a Tnh,
A copy of the E^myn in the Librarv of thi
British Museum (12350. 0.) has the foQovilf
memorandum in manuscript of the period of pal^
lication, and on the title-page: —
"A severe Satire on Dean Swift aad his Writiagi, |»-
ticuliirly the Talc of a Tub. Probablv bv lip. ' ^^
son, Tho, B. Esqr.'* •
F.asx
Chafchr's « Col-Fox*' aud '^ QArrotaw*^
(4^ S. iv. 358.)— With regard to the fiwt, «
pare *' cold reed '' {Gamekfnp I. 531 and 7^*)
With regnrd to the second, M» R. says, **''
term (gttg-toot/ti'd) seema to have been
only to* women/' Here b an inatance to that
trary : —
** With that 9be b«ot her browes, and t^ a Fsif J
hell began to die at him, "ayiagr * Whv yt»tt i
Jnckel ' &c."— Thomft's £«r/y JSngHak Froat i
i. 103.
Cuthbert of Kendall, the man yitupemtai]
notoriously a lecher, JoaN / ^
iii CEM-CEoaa-A B C (i** S, ti. ^fTT.]
illustrated paper on *^ '
Lukis, F.S.A., is in ti
Me. Lbnioan queries iaiti,
not Celtia I think nut. 'i
to " Crias-Croaa-laiii'* ia *' cnja-crnaii ru w/ li'^^^'*
.ltiTl3»7L]
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
419
I ^kme, i,e.A lane err row of letters,
et GBO£a£ Bedo,
m (4*'» S. Tu. 56.)—
qnoadam homiDe?^ et eos mAadme, qxd tc
debnaruDt, «t plan mum Javaro potucmnt^
dignitati turo : simillimflinque in re diflaimili
nunc, et noslri qaondftm ftii*se rationem :
mpablic» cauwi Iscseraa, jjalam te oppugn
lUctonUteRifdignitateQit Toluntatemquct
turn memores esaeat viftutia tusB, qaam
C.RL
r Sleep (4«*« S. vii. 14^.)~Thi8 is a
non term in Scotbmd, wbere also I have
fimd Terj" often that ** The two hours
Idxiight are worth all that come after it.^
El>WA»I> RlMBAULT DtBDIIT.
OF THE Months (4^*» S. tiL 343.) — ^I
> you the followiDg titlea of the moatha
a m J cop J of —
[nndred Points of good Huabandnr ncwlr
^ Thomas Tuiiicr, G«atlcmAn. Loodon, 1610/'
** A Jdndly good Jiinitic«re
Freeztli fK)t bv the fee re
FebraiUT fill the diko
With what thou dost like,
March dmt to be sold,
Worth rmiisom of gold.
Sweet April showers
Do spring May fiowen^
Cold Mav and windy,
Bamc ^llctb vp fiDely.
Calmc weather in Juao
Come sets in tune*
No tempest, ^ood Jidr^
Least come louke ruely.
Dric Aufrjifit and warm*?
Doth haraest no harme.
September blow soft
Till fruit b<? in lofl.
October gond blast
To blow the !tog mast.
NoTtinb«r take daile^
Let sk«p no more &tle.
O dirtr December
For Cbriatnuw remember."'
Srequentlv heard those for the first eight
3th but little Tariation, frtirn agricul-
trer» on the east coast of LincolDshire,
lonally that for November. The word
Sonstant use for a peck measure,
for the first seven months are also
the Shepherd of Banhut'i/n Rules to
\he Weather, hj J. Claridjj^e (Lotidon,
run RB follows r —
1 th« p^t by tho ffre.
rtti his dam on the beir
Whan April blows his horn.
It's good both for hay and corn.
An April flood
Carries away the froj^ and her brood.
A cold May and a windy
Makes a fall barn and a tindy(?)
A May flood
Never did good-
A swarm of bees in May
la worth a load of haVi
But a swarm to July
la not worth a flv.'^'
Queen's College, Oxford*
VoYAGEim Pigeons t PiGBOif Post (4**" S. viL
18^5^ 284, 29 L)— Looking over aome old nombera
of the Mavue brihmnique^ I find with regard to
these (voL x, eerie 7, A° 1852) —
** De tons les etres de In creation il est le qnatri^me
nomm^ ctans ia Gen^sev qui en fait mention avant la fln
du Deluge.
^' Nod envoyfl nne colombe sept ioma apr^ le corbeau,
pour voir si les caux avaient cesse de oouvrir la terre.
" Mais la Colombo n'ayant pu trouver oh mettre le pied,
riTce<iue la terre ^tait'toutc converte d'eaa» elle levint
lui.
'*ll attendit encore sept jours ot il envoya, do nouvcau,
In colombc hors do rnrche.
"Ellc Te%'2nt k\m Ic ^oir, portjint dant son bee un
rameau d'olivier dont les feuilleA (^taient toutes vertes.
'* Cette colombe ^tait probablement le pigeon bleu des
roches — notre biset>anvage. Qaoi on'il en soit, les Arabea
out oompoMf eur le messager de ^o^ une charmante 1^
gende. 'La premltsre fois,^ disentails, Ma oolombe retouxna
a Tarohe avec uiic bmnehe d^ollvier, mois rien qui indi-
quILt I'l^tAt de la terre ; la seconde fois le limou rouge&tro
qui couvrait ses pattes indiquait que les eanx s'^taient
retirdes de deaBCD terra: et pour rappder eel ^v^einaolv
Noi5 demon da an seigneur que les pieds de oea obeaax
conserTossent la coiileur rouge qui ks distingue encore
aiijourd*huL'' L'analogte des mots facbreox adoum^ rouge,
admeh, terre» avec Adm, Adam, eftt lemarquable ; ootre
mot homme se dit attssi en tare a* dam.'*
From this earHeat eaumiple of the pigeon-tra-
valler, it seetms pretty evident that the faculty they
have of returning home could not be *^ by land*
mark/^ aa the whole land waa under water ; nor
" bj the stars/' as the akir only cleared up with
the rainbow when **Nod was out of the ark*': it
must then have been ^'bj instinct,^' Eke the bird
Mr, R. W. Alldrtdge mentions, which returned,
when only nine weeks old^ from a distance of
seventy miles. P, A. L.
" ABBtrXttKOT '* : '^RtTHVEH": HOW PRO-
KOUyCEn ? (4*'' S. vii, 342.) — 1 once knew a lady,
one of the daufrhters of Graham of Morphie, who,
as it so happened, was the maternal aunt of Vis-
count Arbuthnot. This lady pronounced the
name Arbuthnot with the accent on the second
syllable. She was a womnn of good education^
somewhat of the best, and her husband had been
a man of letters. I have never heard this name
DTonounced otherwiif»e. ** Riven " for Ruthven
IS a conventional departure or fashionable cor-
ruption for which it is difficult to accoimty just
420
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[i»k9.vn.MATij,»n.
OS the EDgligh name Theobald ia spoken Tihbaldf
and the Scotch n^me Majori banks called Marsh"
hanks. J. Ck< R.
Tcmplo.
In Scotland Ihifl name is uniformly pronounced
with the accent on tbe second sy liable. I have
no doubt tbat Dt, Arbuthnot himself, a native of
Arbuthnot parish in Kincardineahire, who did not
leave Scotland until after taking his medxcMl de-
cree at Aberdeenj so pronuunced ii Nor u it
by any means evident that his English friends
adopted a different uae. It k true that the accent
is otherwise placed in tbe line q^uoted by J^tbeb
from Pope^s Epistle —
**To second, Ar'tjuthnot, thy art and care " ;
but| on the other hand^ we have the same poetj in
his Fm*eweil to London^ thus writing—
** Farewell, Arbath'not'a rflillery
On every learned sot ! '*
His other friend, the Dean of St* Patrick's, in his
poem Oil the Death of Dr, Swifl, writes —
" Poor Fopo will jfricve a month, and Gay
A week, aod Ar'buthnot a day " ;
yet tbe same piece contains the couplet —
" ArbtJth'not ia no more my friend.
Who darea to irony pretend";
and in Swift*s much earlier verses JVriitm in Sicli-
new are the lines —
" Removed from kiad Arbath'not*« aid.
Who knows hw art but not his trade,^'
The prokgue to T/ie Shepherd's Wtck by Gay
gives another mstance —
" This leech Af both'not was yclept,"
followed a few lines further on by —
" I'll hie with glee
To court, this Ar'buthnot to see."
The above qnotations go far to prove that,
when the rhythm did not require a trans ference
of the accent, the three fiiends of tbe learned and
Witt)' Scotch physician retained it ia what I muat
call its proper place. The jpeat probability is
that by them, as well as by himself and his coun-
trymen, tbe genial Doctor, m Gay has it, *^ Ar-
buth'not was yclept/' Nobyax Citwe,
Atterdeen,
Being a native of the city of Aberdeen, which
is not far distant from the'ancei^triil seat of tbe
noble family of the Arbuthnots, I had frequent
occasion to bear the name pronounced, but always
with the accent on tbe second .syllable* Whether
this is the correct pronunciation or not I cannot
pretend to say, J, Maciat.
Stow-oit-tite-Wold (4*" S. vii, 344.)— Stow-
on-tbe-Wold was in the diocese of Worcester
before the Iteformation. Alicia Flouje of Stow
S. Edward's (for that is the town's ancient name),
bequeathed to the " mother church of Worowter
xii'* *' by her wUl, a.d, 1378. DAvm RoiCl.
Netherswell Vjcamge, Stow-on-Wold.
Sib John Mason (4'" 8. vii. 365.)— I ilttU bi
sincerely obliged If P. M. will oommiuucate with
me in reference to Sir John Mason sad hit di-
scendsnts. Samitel Tncux.
FortU Green, Finchley, N.
Old Families without Coax Aamoitr (4*6L
vii. 344.) — As a herald of long standing — havh^g
studied that which has been bitterly but rigkUj
termed the ** science of fools with lonj^memoriej
for more than twenty years — 1 think I msy vee-
ture to answer F.'s query in the at&rmalive. No
doubt there are many old families withoni tad,
armour. What would such esquires as Bqoiri
Western care for heraldry ? The wot in wmdk
coat armour was assigned, it must be n»iBIBi*
bered^ was by tbe heralds in their visitilim
when each gentleman of a very small IMhola
estate was summoned and made to pay for tht
proper entry of his arms and crest or hi* ooat
armour only. But oftentimes the heads of faini-
lies, to use a slang expression, ^* squared '* thi
matter with tbe heralds, and conveyed themtaliii
away, not bein^ willing to have honour thuslhrol
upon them. Nor was it alone as regards tb
bearing of coat arms that the retiring nature «f
Englishmen was shown. If P. will refer to III
first pages of Evelyn's Memoirs be will find Ibit
gentleman's father^ paj^i^g & ^uo rather tkm T
made a knight
• Recenvyd the 29 Oct 1630, of Rich** £vtit|ga of Wfii^
tone in the eountye of Surr' Kso. by way of oompurft^
to the use of Ai» Mof^ being appH by hb H. ooQeflor l»
the same, for his Fine for not appe&ringe at the tha^ttl
place apoynted for reoearinge order of kuighUlMiodi tkii
Aomme of fivety pound. I say receaved,
« Teo. Cttrum."
And surelj a reader of " N. & Q/' needs not to I
told that m the days of Elizabeth, and f — ^"'•*
of James I. and Charles L, "knights"
thought much of — dried apples wew call<d
" withered Sir Johns/* Honour was vended veiy
cheaply, and King James's notion of ottkiai;
monev by a batch of baronets was no new lAm.
onlv he held out the bait and added novelty t it.
Before his time gentlemen were called up t b-.
honoured, and fined heavily if they did imt >uK
mit to be honoured. P* may rest asj^umi tn**
there are many very old families not posseaing
coat armour, unless that which their ambitioo
descendants have had assigned to them by Htmti'
Stamp, Die, Blazon, & Co., the eminent adttf-
tising ** heraldic artists." Hain FeiswU*
Great Russell Street, Bloomibuiy Square;
Bkabs' Ears (4*'» S. vii. 256, saO.)— Many pi^
sons in Suffolk still call the aurictda J
WJ
4«»8.VILMat I3/7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES*
421
Saints' Emblbms (4^^ S, vii. Sai)— I think if
T6iiders of ** N, k Q," bad each n copy of Dr. F.
C. Husenbetli's Emhleim of Saints^ published by
Ijongmans & Co*, price fire ehillings, they would
there very often find the inrormation sought* for
%n tliese pa^es. According to the author of this
work SS. Mathiaa, Matthew, Wolfgang, Adjustus,
liar© for their emblems hatchets, W. Marsh,
Tub Xile akd the Bible (4»^ S, vii. 186, 314.)
Tender this heading there are some references to
a passage in Eccleii* xi. 1 —
»• Cwt thy bread upon tlie water*, for thou fthalt Stid
Jt after many day«," —
the drift of which I cannot with any certiwnty
make out, in conaeauence of the writer not haviiig^
tran^ated the GreeJf and Latio quotations, Wbm
I irifih to direct attention to, is the variety in the
tranalation of the above and bo me other pasaagea
from the Hebrew. In a version now before me —
•* The Holy Bible .... with Twetity Thoiuiand Emen-
dation 9 /' London : Longman ?» Brown^ & Co., 1843/ —
the verse in question ia thus given : —
•• Cast thy bread-corn upon the watered groiind, and
thou tbalt find it after many days."
In the Doimt/ Version (London: Simms and M*In-
tyrci 1847) it runs —
** Caai thv bread opon the runnie^ waters ; fur after a
Idtig time thou §halt tind it a^ain."
Bgte is perhapa not much diadmilarity in mean-
liere, although one might well dt*sire to have
lore exact agreement in tranulation. lint what
la an ordinary reader to make of the following?
JobT. 7:^
- y«l man h bom unto trouble, as the fparkt fly
upward.** — Common Ver$iQH.
** For oiao b not bom to trouble, aa the sparks fly
Vpvarda." — Venion 1843.
<• Man ia bom to labour, and the bind to fly/* — Dottay
JobTi. 6-7: —
^ Can tiiat which is ansavnnr\^ be eaten without salt ?
ar U there any taate in the white of an egg ? '^
•* Ttie things that my soul refused to touch are as my
tniTow/a] meat/' — QmitnoH Version,
Oui an uniavotiry thing be eaten that i« not sea-
' with salt ? or can a man taste that which^wben
bringeth deoth ? ''^-^Douatf^Venfion.
Theae form a very smairflample of the diacrep-
tQciea in translation I have met with. Am I right
ia ftuppostng that, in some cases, the exact mean-
bff of the Hebrew cannot bo ascertained ? F,
laTaroeiB.
Thongb the overflowing of the Nile, which in
itwlf would be no novelty to the Israelites, is not
fimasly mentioned by Moees, it seems distinctly
nnerred to in Deut. xi. 10, 11: where the le-
nelites are told the promised land was not like
r* By /.T.CQfiqaest,M.D., the weU-knoim physician,
who ified oa Oct 24, 1866.ȣd.]
E^pt, but a land that drank water of the rain of
heaven. Zechariah xiv. 17, 18, distinctly refers to
Egypt's being independent of nun for its fruitful*
P.P.
Pick ELiTER RING (4**' 8. vii. 355.) — In " Notices
to Correspondents " it is said, ** In the German
farces Pickelherring ia the name of the Droll or
Merry Andrew/* It was bis name at Looe, in
Cornwall, also in my boyhood, and was frequently
abridged into PicJUe^ or rather Pecklc,
AVm. Pekoklly.
Torquay.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
lyte Handwriting vfJumu*^ proftmonnUyi Int^xtigftied htf
Mr. CbHfles Chabot (Expert), With Frt/ace atiil
Collateral Evidence by the Hon, Edward TwUleton.
(Murray.)
This handsome quarto volume, with nearly three hun-
dred fac'dlmiles, haa & double interest. The first from
the iaflaeaoe which it ia destined henceforth to exercise
upon all questions where identity of handwriting is con-
cerned, and it will be esteemen a tcxt'boofc npcm that
HLiibject ; and the second from its l»earing on the great
Junian oontroveray, and it is with reference to the latter
that it will at thia time be more especially considered.
On the pablkation of WoodfalFs edition of JtintHt In
three volumes, the late ingenious Mr. John Taylor, struck
it is aaid by Junius' advocacy of the eauae of young
Franci% then a cierk in the War Office, was led to iavea>
tigate tbe origi!i of this feeling ; nnd the result was his
conviction that Dr. Francis the father of the injured
clerk, waa Junius. This opinion he advanced in a pam-
phlet entitled -^-l Discovery of the Author of the Lttterx o/"
JuniuMt which was published in 1813, It is believed
that, shortly after the pamphlet appeared, Mr, Taylor
received a hint from Mr. Dubois the secretary or amsn-
uenaia of Sir Philip FraQcij«, that be waa not qAoie right
in his guess, but very near it: and that, consequently,
the pamphlet was suppressed (for its almost total disap-
pearance is hardly otherwise to be accounted for), and
another, entitled Junius Idtntijied, with Sir Pbilip
Francis for its hero» made its apy>ea ranee. If thh theory
has met with many able and vigonjUH opponent", it has
on the other hand been supported by many well quali-
fied to form an opinion on this authorship, one of the most
eminent among them being the late Lord Mncaulay.
Though less confident upon the subject of late ^eara.
Lord Brougham in 1K17, reviewed the latter pamphlet
in the Edinburgh Review ; and in A note to the article^
the whok tenor of which was to prove the identity of
Franols and Junius, he remarked : —
" We understand that it is eonfidently stated in Lon-
don that at! It more predse evidence exists of the
similaritv of hands, drawn fhym Sir P. Francis's earlier
penmanslup."
We have great reason to believe that Lord Brougham
here referred to the documents now published fm the first
time by Mr. Twisleton, and which form the basis and
origin of the large and elaborate work now before as.
These docntnents consist of a copy of verses, and the
anonymotiB covering letter sent to a* Miss Gile& at a ttme
when Francis was at Bath on a visit to bis father. Soon
after the publication of Woodfall'a three-voJume edition
of Junius with its fao-simile8,Miss GUea, then Mr». King,
422
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[i^'S.vn.iutia.u'
wliQ bid alwftTi believed tbe letter and enclosttre came
from FTiads, ftoognlsed the identity of tbe two bands,
and in GAnMqiMfioe thfidoomn^nts wero fao-eimiled. Thi«
proceedings it is said, gave oSiiDce to Sir Philip Francis^
Gonfleqnentty but few of tbe fao-elmileis were distributed.
We have not flpace to d«tail how these papert came under
the notice of Mr. TwtJileton; how he sabmittad the vereai
lo Mr. NetJierdift, who decided tluit they were not hand-
written by Francia ; how they event aally proyed, in the
judgment of Mr< Chabot, to Iiave been written by TtljE^h-
man, Franda'a conjin and companion at Bath ; how the
eoycring letUir waa svantnaUy identified aa Francis's;
nor to entar at length upoo the nunute and searching
investi^tion Bubseouently undertaken by Mr. Chabot to
establish that the Junbn letters were handwritten by
Francia,
For all these, and maeh more enriona matter that boars
npon the question, we mu.^ refer oor readers to the book
itself. They must recognise, as we have done, the earnest
deaij-e of Mr. Twialeton to preaent lus case fairly and
impartially, and the careful manner in which Mr. Ubabot
^ives the reasons on which hit> judgment ia founded $ and
the result will be, wc doubt not, a yerdict firom the
majority, affirm a tive of the identity of Francis and
Jnnius. In our mind thtre have always eiLidted so many
difiLcnlties in the way of believing that Francis could haye
been the writer of Uie I^etters of Junius, that if those
difflcolties have been at all removed by Mr. Twialeton, we
must record our admission of that fact in the well-known
declaration of Tertullian, *' Credo, quia impossib'de.*^
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said for 6eorj;^e the Fourth ; but Hiush^s book la a \*er}'
poor authority on which to stigmatise him as the F.S.A.
has done. — sUtcti^mi from the Carrerptmdtnoe of Unltert
Bloomjidd, the Snffdlk PoeL Edit^ by W, *H. Hart,
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'po^t,'^ Lord^Li€Utemmt and H iff k^ Sheriff. CorreMpamd-
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CONTENTS.— No 177,
IfOTBSs— The OHicin of ttie '* Pettrr-Lock " « aCoi^ntiant^
of tbe IjOfngri of Wraiall. 121 — FmiPf»l Flowmi: Gold.
UDitli. las — QuotatioM in " R^.liiuBon VruiocJ' lb.— Folk
Lore, Suv^iCir The Slow-worm — Hy-jiuli'* — Reigning
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Kotes ou Biiolit. 4e.
S OF THE "FETTER-LOCK" AS
L OF THE LOXGS OF WRAXAXU
OXTI
AD
Evonr oDo who b at all acquainted witU the
archaeology of Wiltahiro i» aware of the badg^e, or
oognizotice, of the ** fetter-lock*' — a kind of pad*
lode used for fa^^tc^ning together the chains of
prisoners — borne by the family of Lon/ of Wraxall
ftod IJraycote. I'hey aro alio familiar with the
ftcoount of eiich badge which they find in Aubrey,
Yiz, that *• Draycote was held by petit eerjeantie,
namely, by being JIar&hall at the King's coroim-
tion ; 'which is the reason the Cemes gave the
Marshall's Lock for their cognizance.*' {Jackaon*8
Auhrtif, p. 22K,) Canon Jaclcaon, while be doubts
tlie corroctneds of one portion of Aubrey *s state-
Blent about *^ the bein^ Marshall at the Corona-
tion/* nevertheless endorses it in the mwn, and
gives this detailed explanation of it :—
^ '' ■ — ' " \w\A of the Crown by the iiomuiaJ ser-
*thottiird rod of the Marahnl^a ' in
.lold : by which is probably meant sup-
; Uio verger*, or wmidbcarorp, to attend upon
! — the third rod^a p<jst» according to annther
. (h N, 1 17), b<:ing at » the door of the kw^*n
■' oitiuiH cotftiuttr). The Shncklc-bolt would
a be tho emblem of the AsAi^tant Marahal's
autLiifity uvcr all m iriiuders or breakers of llio fieacc, in
that department,** — Jackson's Aubrey^ p, 220,
It is somewhat pcrilou.<», in the face of such
authorities, 1 1 sr-g-r-st a doubt as to the accuracy
of thoae statenjent?, or aa to the ingenious e:t-
planation of the origin of the badge of the fetter-
lock. But I have long been sceptical on the
subject, and so venture to submit my own ex-
planation, nnd the grounds on which I have formed
my opinions respecting it,
L And, firat of all, with regard to the peculiar
tenure under which Draycote Cerne was held.
No doubt this dated from ancient times. In the
Exon Domesdav for Wilts the owner of Draicote
is called " GoiBfridus MarencaUmP He is iiicludt^d
among the ^* ministri regis," or king's officers, meiu-
bers of the royal hou.^ehold» or principal officers
of the court, who held lands originally appurte-
nant to such office. (See Jones's JDomesihty for
WilU^ pp. 147, 160.) This carries us back to the
tenth, or eleventh, century. In those days, what-
ever accidental meaning may have been acquired
by it afterwards, the word marucal (tha equiva-
lent of our marsfial) had none which could ap-
propriately be represented by the ** fetter-lock *'
as an emblem of duties belonging to him. The
word, as Max Miiller tells us, is derived from the
German, where in the old dialect Marah-^calc
meant a farrier, from nmrah a mare» and scah a
servant. The care of the royal stables, whether
in person or deputy, would seem to have been his
duty.
But, passing by the question of the appropriate-
ness of the badge as regards the tenure of Dray-
cote, is there any nroof at all that it was so u&ed,
in ancient times, oy the owners of that estate ?
As far M I have been able, bva somewhat dilijjent
search, to ascertain, none whatever. In truths I
know not of a single example of the use of this
badge which is necessarily of an earlier date than
1490, when for the fir:it time WraxaU and Drav-
cote were held by one and the same person, vu.
by Sir Thomas Longe, who having first of all
inherited Draycote, on the decease of his father
John Longe (c. 1470), for whom the estate had
been purcbaaed, eucc^eded in 14D0 to Wrtixall
also, on the decease without i5*ue of his uncle
Henry Longe.
Of any earlier owners of Draycote than the
family of Cerne, from whom it derives its second -
name, we have no memorials, AtDraycote church
there is a larpre cross-legged effig^^, wliich, ac-
cording to traclition, is the memorial of Sir l*hilip
Cerne, who is said to have built the church about
the year 121)0 ; but on no part of the effigy, nor of
the arched recess within which it is contained, U
there the least trace of the badge of the ''fetter-
lock.** Neither, as fiu* as my observation has
gone, is it to be found on any of the more ancient
portions of the church or tower* Then again
thei'e are, in the chancel, brasses of Sir Edward
Cerne (c, 1393), and of his daughter PhUippa; but
on neither have we this badge, Bftid to be emble-
matical of the tenui"e under which Draycote was
424
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«kS.YlI.MAT20,71.
held. Is it likely that it would have been missing,
if the opinion, tlie correctness of which we are
discussing, were founded in truth ?
After the Long family were owners of Dray-
cote we find plenty of examples of the use of this
badge. On tne tomb of Sir Thomas Long, who
died in 1603, it is found, and also on Draycote
Mill : but there it is in connection with the coat
of Long impaling Darell, which fixes its date at
a period subsequent to 1400.
The badge was seen in Aubrey's time on a large
monument, now destroyed, in t!io church of Box,
to the memory of Anthony Long (fourth son of
Sir Henry J/ong, of Wraxall and Draycote), who
was buried there in 1578. The use of it on such
a monument would seem to show that they re-
garded it now rather as a family badge than as
indicative of the tenure of Draycote. lu fact it
was at Box accompanied with the motto " Envi
will lye," whic'i is found only at Wraxall. (See
Jackson's Aubrey, pp. 29, oC.)
The conclusion to which I have come is this
— that there is no evideiice either that tlie Cemes
used this badge of the ^' fetter-lock," or that the
Longs first adopted it, when they became their
successors at Draycote, as an emblem of the tenure
under which that estate was held.
2. We will now go to Wraxall, and see whether
we have any proof there of an early use of the
" fetter-lock" as a co;rnizance by the Long family,
and whether in the history of their estate there
we can find any peculiarity that may account
for it.
Without doubt the eailicst known examples of
its use are over the gateway leading into the
manor house, and on an old tomb in the church at
W^raxall. Judging from external appearances,
there certainly seems no reason for considering
the gateway otherwise than coevnl with the older
portions of the manor hnu3'», which would bo
about 1430-1450. At the first glance we should
assign the tomb, which is that of a female, with
what are described generally as the arms of
" Long impaling Berkeley quartering Seymour,"
to about 1450. In both instances the date would
bo certainly forty or fifty years before Wraxall
and Draycote were held by one and the same
person.
On the supposition that the badge really belongs,
in the first instance at all events, to Wraxall, can
wo give any account of it? I think wo can — as
the following extracts will show.
In the Shaftesbury Clmrtulary (llarl. MS. 01),
in its account of "Wrokeshani" (a.s Wraxall is
there designated) as part of the manor of Brad-
ford, the whole of which belonged to that re-
ligious house, we have, at fol. 82, the following
entries respecting the tenants there : —
" WiLLKf.MlJS Bedkl tenet nnnm hidum pro xx soli'l.
pro oiuui scrvicio ct dimid. vir'j. tt'rnc p. xrclc. de lieJeL"'
*'OsDEiiTUS Sr^RUXO tenet dlmid. virtfat, pro qot
debet sequi hundreda ct comit. justic. ct sumonicOnet per
totQ handredo, et ad comit. testificari."
These extracts, as we judge from internal evi-
dence, relate to about the year 1250. They show
that two small holdings at Wraxall were appur-
tenant to what are hereafter described as the
offices of the "Bedel" (or bailiff"), and the •'Ser-
jeant" of the hundred of Bradford. The dutiM
of these functionaries consisted, amongst other
things, in carrying out the machinery of the coort
of the hundred, and enforcing its decisions. It Ifl
not difficult to see how appropriate a badge of
such an office as the bailiff^ of the hundred held
would be the "fetter-lock."
In a survey of the manor, of the date 1030, we
find the following entries, which mutatis mutandu
seem but a translation, with some additional par-
ticulars, of the extracts above given from the
Shaftesbury Chartulary. In the index to this
survey, the office held by Daniel Yerbur}', which
exactly corresponds with that held some four
liundred years oefore by Osbcrt Sperling, is called
that of the " Seijeant of the Ilunared."
Fol. 20: —
" Joux Loxo, Esq', is BaylifTo of the Hundred hy
inheritance and Tenure of certain lands he buldeth ia
Wraxall as before m set forth.*'
Fol. 24: —
" John Lon^;, Em]', holdeth freely one Hide of hndia
Wraxlinll a.4 of the foresaid Mauour, vnnctymet the laai
of IViUiam Dedell, by Knight's Service, and xxxv*. Rert
and Sute of Court,*' &c.
*' The sni<l Joiis holdeth also frofly one hal/ynrJ Imi
in Wrtixali, n* of the «aid Manour, hy Stirjeancye, viz* to
make all Sonions in the Hiin<lred and Court of the ManiW
of Bradford, which Ijclon^ !•> the Kinj; a.<) I»rd of the
Manour, before the Rin;;*s Majostiej .lattices ani at the
Countie, and to pomon all the nun of \Vr.ixall \f) do the
Lords Worke.H, and to have his Diinkinfj when the Ijorf*
Steward shall keep the Hundred Court and (.'ourt.< of tlie
Manour, and to do all Executions which pertain to the
said Hundred at his proper Costs an<l Charj^es," &c.
Fol. 25: —
*' Danikl YKRnuuY holdeth freely one holf-yard kmi
in Wraxall as of the f«>reHaid Manour by Serji*ancye, riz*
to attend the Baiiiflf of the Hundred of Dradford'to taki
distresses throu;;hout the Hundred, to make somoD.", and
to bear witness to the Bailiff."
AVe can with certainty from those extracts draw
the inference that the Long family came into pos-
session not only of the estate of ** o«<?.AiV/<f." neW
in Wraxall about the year 12o0 by AVilliam Bedel,
but also into possession of the smaller holding of
*^one half-yard land'^ that was appurtenant to
the office of "Hedel" (or bailiff) of the hundred
of Bradford. And as the badjre of the *' fetter-
lock" was adopted by them from the earliest
period of their settlement in Wraxall, it woald
appear probable that it was used as an emblem,
appropriate enou^^h, of the honourable office they
held there under the Abbess of Shaftesbury as
Lady of the IliuidreJ of Bradford.
Mat 20, •710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
{bird poiot naturally arises,— How came
^ iirat into Wraiall, tmcL how did they ob-
ipurclinso or by marriag-e — the lands once
I to William Bedel ? I dn not profess to
p answer these queationa with any degree
Hty. Still, in the hope that others may
p supply some additional materials which
p to clear up what to all who have tried
;igate it haa proved a very diflicult ques-
renture to put forth tho following con-
Ha as possible helps towards its Bolution*
he obser¥ed that the Lonff family
[m to have regarded this cognizance of
T-loek *' aa an honourable one* On the
j Wraxall church it ia repeated many
00 the gateway to the manor house,
1 built by Robert Longe, the iir»t of
ly known to have possessed property at
I we have as the termination of tne label
I heraldically epeak^nj,', would be the dex-
the '* fetter-lock "; and on the other, in
ktime, was a "stag's head/* The same em-
I badges are seen, and in the same order,
ioor opening into the Longs' chapel in
i churcL No doubt the *^ dag's head** is
b of Fopham: and so is a record of the
rift? of Robert Longe, who was of that
The name of hlsjfrk wife is only matter
jture. May not the *^ fetter -heh " poseihly
^ from the property which he obtained
her? After all, between the date of
Bediil and the firat settlement of the
j W rax all, there would not be necessarily
ftf more than one hundred and sixty years.
I not be too sanguine to hope that aome
Itary evidence may come to light which
gy\s the missing finks, and [*o ahow the
f'tbe property, shortly after the com-
int of the fifteenth century, to the Longs,
f and Camden both give us a few brief
0f the first '^ setting up of the house of
jes." The former says : —
Lftng Thomatt a ntouU Mow, Vfo^n sijtte up by
oltlc Lordea Uuo^eforde*. AiiJ flf(i;r by cauiM!,
KS was ciiullid Z^mj? Thorn iw, Lang after was
pthe name af the family. This Long ThomoM
id sum lande by Ilungrefordes procuralioo,
ledid Uym KobcTt and Henry."
liter aaya : —
^ Gentleman of tbi^ bouse of Preuxt being of
|B, attending oa tbe Lord Hanji^crfurd, Lord
, of England, was amouj^ his ftllows called
tarho after preferred to a gr>o<i nmrriage hy hii
i called IL Long^ thut name continued to hl«
itnights and men of great worship/'
bt ac^!cpting all the details of these tra-
rptories as quite reliable, I think wo may
Hclade, as all such talcs have some truth
that they probably give the real state of
!' fta regards two facts : (1 ) that it was hj
that the Longs first obtained property at
Uhat
Wraxall; and (2) that they were indebted for
their advancement in some way or other to the
Hungerfords, There is no difficulty, in truth ^ in
accepting Camden's statement on the latter point
more completely: for Walter Lord Ilungerford,
who was Iligh Treasurer of England and Knight
of the Garter, was a contemporary of Robert
lionj^e, and was very well able to do a good
service to those who were fortunate enough to be
attached in any way to his household.
There would seem to be some little reason for
believing that lands once held by tbe family of
Bedd came in course of time to that of Iterle/;h :
tho latter of whom, during the fourteenth centiiry,
were no ioconsidemble landowners in the neigh-
bourhood. The following extracts do not nbso-
lutely prove the fact, but they seem to show that
such was not altogether improbable : —
** I n 1 20t we find Thomos de Fordc bailiflf of tbt h iindred
of Bradford, with landd in Wraxjill in viitue of Uh office."
*Mn 1321]>, acconlinic to tbe WUta tinea, one Waller
ITafpdea aells to Kkbard Povntz of Bradford certain
lands to wbich the office of bnififF was attaclicd."
** In 1305 Ricbard Poyntz and others convey to Thomas
Btrkah, Alice hi* wife, und John their son, all the lantla
they hiid by gift of Tbomaa Fuid in Box, Twurton, Ford*
and elsewliere.*'
Of one thing we are quite sura, that at this
time members of the family of Berlegb were cer-
tainly settled at Wraxdl : as early as 1333 the
name of Rofrer de Berlegh appears in a subeidy
roll under Wraxall ; and pignuturcs of vafioua
membert* of it are qIj^o appended to deeds Relating
to property in the neigh bo urbood, from that timo
down to about the year 14G0. Moreover, there
was ft place in 'V\'raxftll called Berlcys (or Bar-
ley-fi) Court, which, according to Canon Jackson^
pasaed to Blunt and then to Ilussey (Aubrey,
p. 26).
It has struck me also that, possibly^ the arms on
the old tomb in Wraxall church to which reference
has been made may alTord some slight confirmation
of this conjecture* The shield which is said to be
that of Birkiiiy^ and certainly it looks as though
intended for it, ditfers both as regards the number
of the crosses pattee and the presumed charges on
the chevron, no Berkeley coat having on the latter
either roses or plates. Tbe whole monument is
clumsily executed, and the shield bearing the arms
in question much mutilated ; but a careful exami-
nation has convinced me thot the charges on the
shield are certainly not ten (as in every Bcrktley
coat) J but nine; and that the charges on the
chevron, judging froui the one of them that re-
mains most perfect, are as likely to be fieurs-de-
lis as either ro.ieB or plates. Bearing in nand that
the most diligent search has fQUud no mutch at
this early period between a Berkeley and a Sey-
mour, the thought has occurred to nie that pos-
Bibly, after all, the shield may be intended for
that of Berhf/hj or, as it came to be epelt, Barhj/:
426
NOTES AND QUEEIES
[4«k8.TlI.MATJ«»'rL
which certainly beais a stroti|T regemblADce to it,
to say the leafit, and which ia that given By Burke
— ^'Otile'k on a chevron between nine crosnc^ crosdit
JiichH ardent f thcc Jkurs-de'lis of t/ieJieUV*
This of coursQ is mere conjecture, and I know
not whether between the families of Berlegh and
Seymour there were any intermarriages. Still,
with fluch a conjecture, "ihe detaila of Camden's
story would fit m without difficulty. Between
the'familios of Berlegh^ Blunt, and Ilusaey there
were cloae connections. In 1S84 Thomas Berlegh,
of Bath amp ton, was found to be ** cousin and
heii'" of ^Mluaee/' John Blunt, who died 1447,
and was of the family that succeeded to Barley's
Court, married Wilheliiiiun, daughter of Thomas
a Berlegh. When we recollect that the second
wife of SirThomaa Ilungeribrd (the mother of
Walter^ Lord Ilungerford) was Joanna, daughter
of Sir fed m and Husaev, and so most probably a
kinswoman of the Berfegh family, the story of the
" good marriage,'^ promoted by the *^ Lord Trea-
surer/' would peem probable enough after all.
Whilst, as regards the first two points — y\z,
(1) the incorrectness of attributing the badge
of the " fetter-lock *' to Draycote before the time
of the Longs, and (2) ita real origin in the pe-
culiar tenure under which they held some land
in Wra3call as bailiffa of the hundred of Brad-
ford— I am sanguine as to having given the cor-
rect account, I submit my other considerations
to your readers, in Ihe hope that the few addi-
tional particulars wanting may be supplied, and
so a matter be cleared up which hitherto has b^en
very puzzling to Wiltshire archieologistB^
William II EKKY Jokes.
The TicflM^e, Bradfortl-on-Avoo.
FUNERAL FLOWERS: GOLDSMITH.
*' 77ic HuhncM in IFigh Place*. — It is irportcd that at
tho fttneral of tbo infAixt Prince Alexander, on Tue»day»
the tliree daugbtcrB of Mr. Hp<?k, the Prince of Wales's
land ageat at Sandxinghani, acalt cred white violeU, prim>
roMSf and anemone* on the coiYInf fn^/tW of ^ earth,* at
the aeotence * Aahw to ashe?,' *' &:c» — Ttu Rock^ April H,
1871.
If the matter were of euflicient importance I
think it would bo found that in addition to would
be the fact| and not *' instead of/^ It is not likely
that the clergj-man would have omitted "earth
to earth *' or the sexton have failed in the usuul
accompanimeDt.
The following notice ia in a better spirit, and I
think worth presepving : —
" Had any of our njadora vbitcd Goldsmith*! tomb in
tl\e Temple last week they would have found it, aa we
did» strewn with early spnG|j tlowcr^ Somo loving
hand had scattered prim rosea flud violets nm\ snowdrops
upon the stone which covers nil ihat Is mortal of poor
•Nolly.* The flowers had evidently been plat-^'d there on
t"h« aunrver^ary of the daj of Lis death hy some devoted
pU^rim to the ahriiie of* the genius who j^ave us The
irdtta«^j
nroti^H
Vicar of IFake/itld and The Descried Vili^e. lHw *
pretty homage to pay to departed grcatDCia. Perdua«
It was an inhabitajit of
* Sweet Auburo, loTcllest village of the pUin^'
who had paid the tribute — some broken eoldier,
»on ' to all the country dear/ or some Dr. Primww
the period, if indeeil such a worthy man eadat; boi
ever it may have been it was a worUiy act, •od bi|_
a custom which we hearlilv wi^h werv naincBliscd amoai
}u:*^ngar0, April 27, 18tl,
Clirbt (4^ S, viL 289) will be pleased to £od
that ^' Old Goldy " still has &daurei«r &moiag
whom I reckon myself, though unftble to help
him to the reference.* Such of our yomi^' a ^
whose studies tmd pursuits he descriW, it u\
be hoped will take more than **a gl;
Sdiurdity i?f rtW/* as they will find in j
tion for those who neglect classicB, wheib* r nrn i at
or modem. But many youDg and even middk-
aged men, who are entitled to he called ireH-faid,
know little of our standard authors of the bn
century. Great booka have appeared and ^cfta
subjects hare arisen since we were Toimg, aoJ tbs
pressure for them is immediate. I oBtt ons »•
stance from mj own experience, Whda Itf.
Bright delivered his dever simile of " Ibt Scotch
Terrier ^' I was in the country among mm wio
were above the aveta^ of careful readeis. I nad
that the simile was in the notes to The Dmeiei
and wrote out the lines. See **N. & Q/' 3^ & hu
^04 I was complimented on my qmckneaa iahainflf
invented and versified my Ection within an botf
after the arrival of the papers. Of four meOttiMk
At least as much a reader as myself, onlT on* III
read The Dtmciad^ and that in'a ono-voliuiiftail*
tion of Pope without notes*
Garrick Club.
FiXEHOFXm.
QUOTATIONS IX " EOBINSON CRUSOB.*
There are two metrical quotations in .
Crusoe. One is apropos of the hero's joy c
safe to fihore on the lahmd^ after his ahipni
** For sudden joyi*, like grie^ oonfband ai i
Whence is this taken ?
The second occurs near the commenoiQienl|
Fart n.^ and when Crusoe is settled in hlsl
farm in nedfordsbire : —
** Now 1 thought, itidccdi that I enjoyed tht i
fltat« of life thnt my father so eamettly i ^
tae, and lived a kind of heavenly life, somfuu
what is described by the poet upon the su^eelof af
life— ^
' Free from ^^ces^ fVeo from cait;*
A^e has no pain, and youtli bo i
I remember, some yean ago,
this couplet in Cowley or Sir Georgo
but I searched in vain. The lines hat)
pectedly turned up just now, while lo
• Tlii» has he^n supplied by Mr. C. Wruit,*
rf This quotation vrm inquired a/ter» hat i
fully* In *' N. & Q/' a^J S. ii. 160.— E»0
|»fcS.VlUMAT20,7lO
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
moufl old song" book of Inst century, called The
ritM Mudcal Mhcellanf/, or the Drlightfid Grove^
ondon, n. d. They form part of a soo|? of two
ftnxas giTen in voL ii. p. 7S : botk words and
iiuic are anonjraoiia : —
*• TOE CCJU3JTBT LIVE,
•* ITflppy 13 n country life,
Ulest with cDQleot, good UeAlth mtd ease )
Free from factious notfe anti strife.
We only plot ourfclvo* to plea*e ;
k Peace of mind'n our day's deftghL,
' ad love or welcome dreams nt nt|j;ht*
llTnil I green fields and shaily wrtods I
H*il I crystal streams that still ran pare,
7iitare*j uncormptetl ^ood*,
\Vb«re virtue only dwett-^ secure !
' Free from vice, and free from cjirf,
Age hMs no pain, nor youth a anare.**
I dare Buy your learned correspondent Da,
lofBAULT could tell me the autborshlp of the
jog and the date of the book. The Terae3 of
IT George Mackenzie, which I had in mind,
fegin thus : —
tppy countty life I ptire like Ita atr ;
from the rage of pride, the pangs of care,
happy ioula lio bntherl in mft content,
are at once secure and innocent."
ElltTONNACET,
[ ahould like to know the date of another
3ok of mine : ffarmonia Sftcrat or Dimne
rat ScnffSj ivith llymru and Antfienu^
IbodoQ, n, d. Bm. 4to. It contains firaong other
Wsgst **The Character of a Happy Life/' by Sir
%, Wotton ; hvmna from George Herbert, Addi-
to, Ac ; Dr. Wattij' '' Busy Bee" ; and "A Pura-
hnse on the Lord's Prayer, from Gent Mng, for
J Polk Lorb, StrssBx; this Slow- worm. — In
over Choice Notes ofi Folk Lore extracted
. & Q./' I found on p, 243 a notice of
Bupersiitiou that the elow-worm has
ida written on its belly. The version
lis-
•• If I cotild hear as well m »ee^
*io man of life ahotild master me/^
ThBt I have heard is somewhat different, and I
^oture to think also worth recording. It la as
fUaws : —
IP
** If I could hear as well m I can see,
No man nor beast should pa^ by me."*
HY-jmKS. — In common perhaps with the
lultitude, I have been in the habit of writing
lis *• high-jinks,'* and have conmlered it to re-
Iresent an exhilaration of spirits issuing in a game
f romps, or frantic merriment. Under that im»
teasioxi I have even written "highest jinka " for
Ittrava^nt fun.
But I have boen altogether wrong, as the note
t Allan Hamaay will show, " hy-jinks " being
bat Allan H
1^
a specific form of tipsy merriment Tlio Scottish
poet thus explains it in his Ji/^yy on Mat/ffi/ John^
ston,l20, Edin. 1780:—
♦* A drunken f^ame, or new project to drink and ha
rich : thus the quetf or cup is filled to the brim, then one
of the company takos a pair of dice, and after crying
•Hy-jinkfl,* he throws them out: the numlier he casta
up points ont the person that muflt drink j he who threw
beginning at himself number one, and so round till tha
number of the person a^^ree with that of the dice (which
may fait upon himncU if the number be within twelve) ;
then he aots the dice to him, or bid^ him take them ; be
on whom they fall ia obli|re4 to drink or pay a «mall
forfeiture in money, then throws, and so on. But if he
forgets to cry * lly-jinki' he pavs a forfeitur<Hnto the
hank. Now. he on whom it falls to drink (if there be
ftiiTthing ill the bnnk worth drawin;;) gjets it all if he
drinks ; then with a great deal of caution he empties his
cup, sweeps up the money, and ordera tho cup to be
m led. again, and then throws; for if he errs in the arli-
cles he looea the privilege of drawing the mon*!V. The
articles are— (1) Drink, (2) Draw, (3) Till, (4) ciy * Hy-
jiakiw' (5) Count juat, ((i) Chupc your doublet, m.in — via.
when two equal numbers of the dice if thrown, tbe per-
son whom you chuse must pay a double of the common
forfeiture, and bo muiit you when the dice is in hi-t hand
(#ic). A rare project is 'this, and no bubble, 1 can assure
vou ; for a covetous fellow mtiy save money, and get
nimMlf as drunk as he can desire in tc5S than an bourns
time."
Thi.9 is nn explanation of what is not really
worthy of it, save that it may correct ignorance
of the same character as mj own. I>.
Reigpttno Beauties ts Fraitce.^ — No one cir-
ciimstancCi in connexion with the recent politicij.
changes in France, has more disgusted the English
than the atrocious libels and caricatures circiUated
in Paris against the Empress Eugenie, This
unman line 33^ in tho treatment of ladies whose
husbands have for tlie time been invested with
supreme power, it will be seen by the following
extract from the writings of him who now pre-
sides over the destinies of France, has always
been a characteristic of the Parisian populace and
their infamous pre^g. Referring to the state of
France in January 179*5, M. Thiers thus expresses
himself:^
'' Madame Talllen ^tait la femme dn jour qa*ila accti-
aaient le plujf, car h toutes Ips epoqucs on en avnit accused
una : cVtait /« perjhh enchaniertsse ti laquelle lis repro-
chaient, comme autrefois h Madame Roland, et plus
anciennement h ftlane-Antoinottc, tous le« manx du
peuple." — Rintoire de /« Hrvittutitm ftun^isXy vol. vih
Hv. xxvi. pp. o4, 55, Parb, 18-15.
War. B. Mao Cade.
Monccntour-de-Bretagna, Cotes dn Nord, France.
Dacier, —
** A certain Monsieur Dacier, two hundred 3'ears ago,
fltiirted the paradox Lhflt tbe French writers of hi^ time
were a^ good as the clafslcs. Tlie notion found favour
among his ingenious countrj^men, and engendere<J a ooo-
trovorHV in which many witty things were said on both
sidea. 'How nianv uf us arc there who remember even
the names of the 'French authors who were handicapped
with Homer and VirgU ? ^— /*«// Midi GazcUti, April 2U,
1871.
NOTES AXD QUERIES,
[i«'S.VII,iUT2Q|
The ab-ove is part of a very Me article on Mr,
howcs speech to the Civil Enpneera, in which
ho repented bi^ depreciation of clflasical studies.
If Dncier la not a ahp of the pen, the writer must
have stranp^ely forgotten his reading on the ques-
tion^ which has not fftUen Into such CDiiiplcto
oblidoa as he suppo^s. Dftcier^ though he did
not contribute any wit to the controversy, was the
moet learned and vehement writer on toe side of
the ancients. La Biographie gin^mh says of
bini : —
** Amoureax des flutears qtiMI interpr^tflit, il ^tait ia-
Cflpable d'y aperctvoir un d^fawt, ct pour diiaimuler
leura imperfections, il !iouit«iiait le» plus i^t ranges para*
doxcs. D'autrra foip, il m laissalt slier h, dea intcrprdta-
tiunf) Binguli^res, que BoiI«au appebit ' lea rcriflations de
M, Dacier.' Un liominc d'esprit ra c«rict^risd en di&ant,
•Jl conniii^Fnit tout des nnciem liors Ja p^ce et la
finpsse/ Un outre disait dt' lui, 'que cVtait ua gro»
mulel cUarge de tout le ba^a^ de rantiquit^/ "
A controversy of which Swift's J?a/^/t' ofthcBvok^
is a part will not drop out of literary history, and
those who wish to know the niog^t interesting part
of it mav consult Kigault's La QmrtUe dt^n Andms
et des yfotierrtes, Paris, 1850. H. R C.
U. U, Club.
Parallel Passages. — I do not know that
Byron*? touchinjr reference to the ** youn^ eallaiit
Howard/' in Chifde Hmvld, has been notitred as
having: its pratotype in the Pastor Fido of Giiartui*
Byroads verse runs as follows : —
'* Til pre bave been lenrs and breaking beorta fur thee,
And mine were nolliin^ had I such to give ;
J?ut wl on 1 stood beneath ihe fr^-Hh greon tree,
Wbk'h living waves where thou did*^t cease to Uv*,
Antl faw aixunid rnc Iho wide field revive
Wnh fruhn nnd fertile pmmise^ and the spring
Ome forth bir wfifk of |;Iadn©?L» In contrive,
Witlt ali UvT rei-kle^s birds upon the wing,
I turn'd frum all ahe brought, to those aho could not
brin^;,"
Full of pathos and beauty as this is, it is
Bcarcely so pathetic as the wail of the Italian : —
^_ ** O Piimavcra^ piovintii dell* aunoi
^^^^^H Jb'Iln in ad re de* Qori,
^^^^^^^^^ IV evbt' nnvelk e di uovclli am:}ri ;
^^^^^^K torni bcn^ ma tcra
^^^^^^^V Non
^^^^^^B II fortuniiti d\ AtiUa mie f^iujc:
^^^^^^H Til torni bi'ii^ tu
^^^^^^^ riie did perduto inio caro tcBoro,
^^^H^ La rimfimbranzn miAera e dolente.'* .
H^^ Olio Gilbert, a French poet of the seventeenth
■ c*»ntijrT, has the following niadng^l, '*Sar Tart
■ d'ttimerd'Ovide'^: —
I " Cett« lecture est aana ^ale,
B Ce livre e^t un petit dedale,
B f)u rpj^prit prend plaisir dVnrer;
H Phillis »utvez leu pan dlhide,
HI C'c*t k phi 9 flgri^flble guide
9 Qu'on peut choLsIr pour a't^parer/*
^L This is obviously the original of Prior's epigram j —
*^< Ovid is Ihe surest guide
You can name to sbow the wsy
To any wiitnan, maid or wife.
Who resolves to go .i stray.'*
More neat and pointed than Gilbert, hnt
says nothing of whence he got his idoa,
1 do not Snow who owns the incessantly ([t
•» I do not like thee, Dr FeU,*"
hut it evidently conies from the ** v ..
Sftbidi/* of Martial, the unacknow]^
innunicrahle witticisms. G. J. ^^ V^ i
A North Lancasuibe Soxo. — The foQl
humorous song, in the dialect of Fiiroeaa, ]
Lancashire, was fonnerl? very popular in
district and also in the adjoining couQtiea.
never yet been in print, except m the coluii
a local newspaper to which I sent it, Mav I|
to find a home for it in " N. & Q," ? — ' ^
'* Cum Roper t^i ine as thou ert mi son.
An tak the l>est counsel o' life;
Cum bidder, I sar» wi'out farder ddajr.
An ru wam't tii"l 11 git tha a wife— I wiU!
Y<*« I will, sooa r will,
An 111 warn't ta 111 git tha a wife— I will I
** Put on thi best cleas, at iver thou hei^
All kiss iverj lasa at thou moet5;
Ther'a sum ill leak »hy, an tak it awry.
But uddcM ill CO tha a sweet— thay will I
Yes thay will, aooa thay will.
But udders I'd co tha a" sweet — thav will I
** Tho fir.*t bonny lass that Koger did meft
Wna a farmer':} fair douter^ her neam it was KM
She didn*t exchange wi him manv a word»
But she feteb'd htm a slap V the feacc^^abt ixB
YeH she did, mm^ she did,
But she fetched him a *!ap V the feaco — she di^l
•* Sea Roger, if ihh be like laiUn a wife,
111 never ga laitiii nnuddor;
But 1 will leve aing'et o* t" days o* mi lifi%
vVu ril a way yam tatni otudder — I will!
Yea I vfill» jiooa I wUl,
An 111 away yam ta mi madder — I will!
J. P. Mon
17, Sutton Street* Tuc Brook, Liverpool.
Folk Lore; Thukder. — I pointed oat
when thunder is heard the Greefis of Asia L.
my the Almif^lity is moving his h * A
fvirniture. I tind that our forefatti u
thunder bo the god Thur playing at : i
Hi
An Akcient Ctstosi, —
King David, B.C. 1015.
** Now the children of Israel after their number, H
the chief fathers and captains of thousand* 4adhDn4
and their officers that servoil the king m
the conraeSt which eame In and wenr
month throughout all the montba of the
xxvii, 1.
Qnem FiVloria, A. D. 1^71
*'The course of waits of H^- x»-t •
the month of Mart!h, and the
cximmence are as folfows: — I
Dttchesa of Koxbarghe, 7 th. Wouiai* m( ih-
*tS.VU. Ma»20,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Tincdunteca Clu.'wtoii, 7th ; Hon. Mrs. Alcsiintler Gordon,
SUt« MuUh u{ Ilnnour, f I>jti, Lucy M. Kerr, 'Mh ; Ho n.
HoraUm V, Stunforil. IHIi, Uird» U\ Wailinf^* Lord
Camors, 7th i Lord Metliurn, 2I«t, Grooms In Wiiitin;?.
K ear-Admiral Lord Frederick Kerr, 7th ; Major-G^^nernl
isir Fnincis Sermoar, Bart , 2lnU Equerries, Colonel
C.T. Du Plat, Colonel the Korl of Mouiitcbarles; Fagra
4>f Konour, G. \\\ Grey, JWj., Hon. G. F. H. iSomcrdcr/*
Cvurt Journal, March 4» ltf7L
It 18 bigblj interefiUug to compare the monthly
^ouiaea eon tamed in the " Geuezvil Rota of Wtdu
at Her Majesty's Hotuehold for the Year 1871 "
with the courses of King Darid^s householilj
*' which CADie in and went out month by month/*
AS recorded in the 27th chaptf^r of the Firat Book
tof Chionicled. Williah KAryxB.
Mum, or Brujtswick Mm, a stroso Beer.
JU etymologry ia given in 1" S. iv. 177 ; 3^'* S. ti.
4U, 603; vil 41, 101, 103, with ex tracte,, which
do not include the following : —
" I have not f&rgot to drink your health here in mum,
which I think very well dcaervca its reputation of being
the best ih the world."— Letter from I^dv M. W. Mon-
tM£JL, ilated Hrunawick, Nov. 23, 0. S. 17itS.
w. p.
A Cbohwell Note. — I found the enclosed
a^mongst some old Oxford papers. It may be
worth finding a pbce in "N. & Q.*' J. K. B.
*' The Father of the late Dr. Smith, Master of Pem-
broke College, was it Captaia of a Ship. Hi* original
^ame wa» CnrmwrJJ : being the GrAUiUoa of Kichurd
Ot>m welt, ion of Oliver. Heebanged hia Name to SmitK
croncdviBg it probable that the Xame of Cromwell might
injure hi* Proraotitui in the Xavy.
*' Lh- Smitli, therefore, was the last Lineal DeMeodant
«f Oliver CromwelL
•' TLm Story was toKl me bv M' Dandns of Richmond^
«rhom 1 met at Lord Howe's* November 8^^. 1809.
** SCUOI'P. BKimJIORE,
•* Wardeu of Merton."
^ImjLS.— ^Itdaa was the name of more than one
Jdng* of Phrygia. I wish to point out that this
^tame is connected with the Lyuian Medeus ("Godj^
tt&d as these laDguflges have bi^eu traced oy me
to tlie Palfcogeorgian stock, the (ier»rgiaii Tsmida
^saioty holyj may also be associated, Midas ia
4U1 example of the use of the name of a god as a
MTBoaal name or titJe^ Bucb m we have in Baal,
3feIeoii| and Adonai. The Phrygian Balun, for
idn^ (also represented hy Updli in Georgian) ia a
local instance* Hybe Clahkb.
KuGfiVB Aram. — Will some one kindly iufoim
JDe which was published first — ^the dream by T,
^ood^ or the novel by Lord Lytton ? C larky.
[ " The Dreatu " by T. Hood w/wpubliihed la 1831, and
Xord Lytttm'i novel in tb« following year.]
Author wahteb. — Who is the author of the
folio win gi and where can I obtain the pOi^m cou-
iaining it 'f —
*' No I thoH art not my first love,
I had loved before we met ;
And the music of that summ«ir dream
I« plcastint to me jet,
Uut thoUf thoa art my last love.
My dearest and my beat i
If V heart but shed iu outer leavoj
To fire thea all Lho rest."
Lawr, B* Teomas.
Mercantile Libraiy,
Athenaeum Building, BalUmore.
Thomas BASKERvrLLE.— Can I be referred ti»
an engraved or other portrait of Thomas Basker-
Tilloi an inventor, circa 1760 ? G, 0.
Thr Cob Fisorrv of NBWForNDLAjfD, and am
English Convert in Francb. — In
"A Summaiy, Historical and PoUtiral, of the First
PhmtiniT, Progressive ImprovcmtntJt, nnd Pfesent Sf«te
of the Itritlih SeUlementi in North America. By VYU-
Uam Douglass, M.D,'' Boston, 1735, 8vo,
this curious statement occurs at p. 287, sect, vi*
vol. i, concerning the island of Newfoundland and
its cod-fishery : —
" King Charles h, bubbled by the French,^avo tliera a
liberty of fishing and curing fi^h in Newfoundland, uyion
t\i>7 silly pretext of tuppltfmg an EnglUh conrieHt in i'raHC*
I will be very thankful for the name of this
convent, if known. D, Burke*
I'eitdington.
"CoMK3 TO Grikf.'*— ^Vhen did this expres-
sion (irat become grenerol in England? Brown-
ing uses it in his new poem I£erv6 Ilicl, the
scene of which is laid in 10V)2, thus —
** Not a spar that conies to grief."
Is the expression as now used correct English
or simply slang ? K. A.' D.
Pevoksicre Words.— Can you give any ex-
planation as to the following terms in commoa
use iu Devonshire.^ — dome, common crockery;
dome shopf crockery *hop; Mmmd, a hamper;
Seam, of hay, 3 cwt, ; iieam^ of straw, 2 cwt.
Hay and straw are commonly sold by the *' seam"
in Devonshire, and not by the cwt. or ton aa
elsewhere, E. GuLsoir.
The Verb ''ENAMorBED,'*— Tsa lover enam-
oured of his mistref 8 or laVt her ? In my courting
days the former was the correct phntse, but now
tlie latter is coming into u>«. I notice it in the
article attributed to Mr. Gladstone in the last
Edinhut'tfh ItevieWt D, Blair.
Melbourne.
Gross Eatiivo.— Is the following extract from
a letter by Gray the poet a joke or not ? —
"Our friend Dr.-- — (one of ita [Cambridge] nuis-
ances) ia ntiL expected here again in a burry. He ts gone
to \\\n grave with tivc lino mackarel (brge and full of
roc) in hif t>elty. He ate them all at one dinner; but
his fare woa a tarbot oa Trinitv Sunday, of which he
left little for the cotnptDy besidei boaea. He had not
4fi0
beta hearty ftU th«weck; but After thb sixth fiili he
never held up his haAtl more, and a violent looeeneaa
carriol him off. They say bo nuide a vciy good end."
W. P,
IIoGAiT.— Gray, the poet, writing 1737, says —
" Fpr yowr reputation, tvc keep to ourselrea your not
hantin^r nor drtuktng hogaa, either of which here would
be eiifficient to lay your honour in the dust,"
What was the drink so called ? W. P.
[Thi9 quenr appeared iu our !■* S. iii, 4a0, bat elicited
no reply. The aime quotation is civeti in Scuthcy*s
Ciifiiiinn- Place ^(^A, iiL S6» to which the cdilor, J . iV,
W'ai t«.'r, B.D., baa added the following note to the word
llii-n:i: ** Query? Was tbis in the original MS. of
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b.
to .1 vilLigo school kept by an obi rjuarlerniuster on half-
pa.r, who profewed to tench notbiii;^ but rcadirjj^, writinjj,
and aritliEnetiCf but \vbo had nn inexbausLiUe fund of
frtoriej About ghoiit*» b^inihecs, nml Uin^, about the
greut Bappirce chieij?, Ualdcarg O'Donncll^iid gallttpin^
Of ♦* Galloping IlogflU," one of the chiefi of the
Irish Kappnreea, wc find the following aotices in The
Jmpariiul /H$tnry of the Fllirf in Ireland^ bv Goor^o
Storey. We read at p. 22^, under the date ScptT 24« IGUl^
•• The snnio day we had au account that Galloping
Ilognn, a fellow that had got upwards of one hundred
BappAiees together, horse and foot, and got much plunder
by rob bill 1^' the Suthrs and other people ttjat came into hia
power, ho was now so bald aa to act uirt>n a pjirty of carra
cosnin^ toward:* the camp with little or no guard, nigh
Cullcn, and took away with him Beventynone small
horfie:i» though he dur^t not stay to do any more mii-
chief/'
VVc nes^tmeet with Hogan at p, 270. on Oct. 19 :— "On
the 19th, Hogan and most of bia crew came in at Ros-
creagh, and had the benefit of the proclamation » being
allowed twenty-four men by the general to suppress other
Rappai'pej upon occ^ision, though this was fatal to him,
for tome of that sort of people murdered him after-
wards."]
"KilLTifo J!0 MrEDER."— In tbe remarkable
trnct 80 called, I find towards tbe end an expre^
aioii which reminds one of Sterno*B ass as a desig-
nHti;>i^ for man's animal nature. This was before
Sti'iiK', and is probably both much older and by
iio means infrequent in literature. Will any one
with learning and kisure think it worth while to
hunt it up?
**\Vo have all our beast within us, and whosoever
(«aya Aristotle, /*«>/. iii. e. II) ii govtrned by a maa
without law i» governed by a man and by a beast/*
The t^rm employed by Sterne would be very
likely to occur iu the productions of souie of the
burltisquo preachers of a ftjw centuries a^^o.
May- Day CrsioM,— It was the custom at Ox-
ford a generation a^^o for little boya to blow horns
abcmt the &treet3 early on May-day, and they did
it far the purpose of *^ calling up the old inaidrB/'
The flame custom obtained in thia old town of
^j^un^and the purpose appears tohave been thetamei
in If.iti H
• cut;
for I have heard the Terr phrase, *' calling up the
maida,** used amongst the boys here on Ujo "
this present May. I aaked ati aged inhabii
long the horn-blowing had ceaaed, and hm
** Ever since the Reform Bill came in " ; but'tlii
he remembered the time when the workhoi
children were let out for May-day early in tlu
morning with their horna and j^arlanda^ and i
worth V alderman whom be named alwayt kept
open douse on that day, and gave tiiem^ a food
dinner. *^ Calling' up the old moida '' rtfeck I
conclude, to the custom of calling up the miira%
whether old or young, to go a-maying. Qi
Lynn.
[May hafl always been ooosMered the merriat
months—*' the fairest of tbe year." The c ustom of
blowing is thua noti-^-^'^ ^"' « ..,-*t..- 'r.
preface to Robert of i
no wonder, therefore, :
Mav formerly, the c»j
in horns so much ]•
generally diftued, yti ....
vaila at this eea^n, even
mind people of the pleasant:
Aubrey has this mcmorat;
tilhfne end Judaismtt MS. 1
tho boya do blow cowa' honi- . ;. . ....
and ou May-day the young msiidn of '
about gjirfitnfl* of flowers, whi'*h nfli
up i:: "' ' ■ ' . " ■ "'
was
t0 6ii._, :-, _. .. . — .„ -„. -.,,.-:,-_ ..., ...,,.._ tia
ing flowers :—
** Riao up mnid^n?, fii? for ghim?^ *
For rvi' f
I've bwsi
Ri*€ up, Km. .. . .,* ^ uui M^^. I
PrRTT.iN Cea: -Names. — A taalU
Hume's Hkionj of l^nylund (vii, 230. ed* 179!|
says, speaking of the Commonwealth, tnat—
** It waa usual for the pr
change their names from I i
littm,whir^ *! •" irdcd ii-< .v
Mnctirie<l ...... li
jury aaid l rit?d ia tht t
thU time.**
The names I need not repeat, aa tliiy ai« I
liar to most of us. The list is c^uotitd
Brome*s TravtU m England^ p. 57^*^ n b«k <
which I have not access hcry; bir
safely come to the conda^iou, iv:
the passage, tiiat these eighteen v.
are either a forgery or a joke, i
know what contemporary au f 1
statement in the early part
modern writers have re pent <u ti
over and over again, and that
raneacked their imaginations t ^ '-^
names for their I'uritan ch^T
remember any trustworthy »
mon wealth time or that of t
lead US to believe that straup .
were more common iu those da
4«kaTn. MatSO,-!!,]
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431
What powftges Bare we on this subject in ih^
worki of tlie Restoration playwrights ?
Edwaed Peacock,
Bott^fbrd Manor, Brigg.
On the AnsBNOE of asy French Word for
'*TO RinE." — There i$ no one word in French
whicli ccmnotefl the action of riding on hor&e-
bfick* planter fii)niiti*?3 the action of mounting on
bcmcback, but hardly of the continuous action of
riding* To express this the French say c7re or
aUer^ or itrftnmitfter, it chant: this properlv means
ridirisr for amusement. U this the reason that
Pivr- i" ■•'> r.n.t^^Uy decline to ride with the
3ini On«y cun only **iie promener a
cht t,„ . J .1 _. Lhcy are too volatile to coatinuo
tk» JicticMi ol^ standing, and so hare no word to ex-
it. E. L. BLEiTKrasopr,
B^ingthorpc R^ioij.
** Boxrees/* — When was this word first used to
dedgnate the §cum of the people^ the ** dang-erous
cJasdes/* the remhmm, as Mr. Bright called them ?
Tlie word was wanted r8 heing more specific tlian
moh. In n niob there usmally ib a proportion of
roughii, hut a nioh may be eiraply a motley col-
li?ction of 1 i:rVitiL nt, noi^y, but still honest, people;
it need irily be compoeed of roughs nor
eren coiv^ • ,
1m not tho word a mere abhre\iation of »v/^/v/m,
^d ahonld we not write riiff$ ? I fancy 1 fii-flt
the word •♦ roughs " in pnnt during the turbu-
lent period of the elections* thnt followed the
Br»t liefona Bill, about ]^'J3 or IS^i,
Tbe following is from tlie recently published
' JtarJtam. In a poetical inritation to I>c«
N'ov, 4, 1837) he says : —
**,Thcro'n be lot* of now poUccmeii
To control the rogue* and rmi^A*."
J reader of " N. & Q." give rae an earlier
fit the word ? Jay i>ee,
rC^irlff Dickens once said, " I entertain m stronju an
ifectlon to the cuphcinious poftenin;^ of ntfUm into
vhicli has lately bw!ome popular, that I rtatoro
wc^rrl to llie licft'lirg; of Ihiji papir." — The
^ria. / ■/ ih^ Uncommcrciui Tratdttr^ AH the Year
\ lt<6>*. Dr. Motli-y, however, in bis
(nriv, tv, 1H**, ii«rn*M«» \\* w^* to Qtipen
aiHt'Tii in ii- . ' :" ' ' '•,-,
Lirinff, dvi It
flx*HJ nptiTi ■ . , ■ :i-
y, Wtt-8 I'CM'UgJjt by ill© cuall^^l^^JJ1l (iruUliii Jilt 1"
nV IIjo inao lo whom «hp* rlmsp- that Ihn -'mwjt vltjxil!
jlre, *Not to tt ' * . < - i,
grimly/* l>r. .
k'tler of St ^ Ltl
**jti lln^uA ingkM Biguiueii }^»uiiSi9k UidM o
TirBSrciUANTrKAXT.— In The TYmnsofUnj 6,
1871, p. 9, coL 6, we read —
• There U too Qinch rcjuon to tha contention of Mr.
UdifTB* critics Umt he ftfected the style of g&rdeamg
L«Kbi
of the Sictlinn tt/rantf* who «w!tehed off the heads of
the tAllL^st poppies, and list the dwarf varieties alooc.**
The switching is, I think, first told in Greek
writers by Herodotus (v, 92) of Thra^ybulu?,
repented by Aristotle (PoL uu 13, 17, ed. 'Eaton)
of Periander, and by Livy (i. 54} and Ovid (Fa^fi,
ii. 701) of Tarqiiiiim* Superbus. The edition of
the Politico to which I have referred abore givaa
no reference to any Sicilian tyraat. Was the
"Thunderer" coufuaing the story told of Pha-
laiis with those of the oUier tyrant^ to whom the
** switching-" is commonly ascrihed ? or is ther©
any Stcilinn legend of the kind ? A Sm>KNXt
TEKirT90!aANA. — Can anv of your correspond-
cnts iL'U me the meaning of theae two passages ia
Tennyson, Pnncfss f —
" rho<^ monstrous males that earye the Hving- Itftoad^
And crstn hitn with the frugmootsof thei^rav^^"
iii. 203.
.[Sec«X.&Q.''2''^S. T.58.]
* She that taaght the Sabine how to rule,"— ii. 63.
T.M.
[There apnean to be jim allusion io tlds line to Numa
Ponipiliu.% the second king of Rome, whose oamo reprc-
Fents the rule of law and order. The nm*ver«nl trndftion
of the Snbine orifdn of Nnma I ' •: laiis
must have dcrivcrl a great poi vt-
Icm from the Sabine?, rather tl; . < - ,. , , ,.u^ as
h eommonly beheved.— Smith » Diotionaij of Gredt and
Roman Biography^ ii, 1212.]
'<TirB BoTHoon op St, Thomas ViLtA^rBiTTB
(sic), Bartolnmo E.^teban Wmillo, No. 256. Sent
by Lord A#h burton " (riWr Catalosruo of the late
Exhibition of Old Masters). What were the
adventures of this particnlar St. Thomas, the
second half of whose name has been, I nm apt to
think; misgpelied in the cnlalo^'ue P
No ELL IlADECLrrFB.
[An execllrnt aecotmt of St. Thomii«« of Yillanova,
ArcUbifthop of Vnlcntia, wiil be found ia Alban Butler's
Liw*ofth9 5<j»iif#, *S<tpt. lal
VoLTAiniAXA.— In the '* Denunciation to the
Pnrliiiment" of the KehlVdititm of \'oUflire's worlrs
(1781) there are one or two allusions which I do
not understand : —
" Men who are avarJ<*ioiJS rather than malidons had
di.^cov<'red in a plmit which w.as almost unknown a
frttnl virtue for crtublin;; eilizTisto bj sent to slecj} And
T' ^ ^*- ! « You tboii^'ht you ou^ht to pttnish the
1j [ iltemptii by rhft4tj«cinent'feuifimr4itly rigoroaf to
in i an a snliit^irj' terror,"'
What docs thi^ refer to ? Al«o, where can I
lind an account of the yonntr man of Abbeville
who was condemned to death for ^* blasphoniiea
and crimes " eii;^endored by rcadinnr Voltaire ? I
quote from a translation, as I have never seen the
original C, Elliot Browxe.
* The itaHcs «ie mioe.
432
I
BARKER AND BURFORD'S PANORAMAS.
(4^'» S. Tii, 279.)
In reply to Mr. Normak's general queries about
the Leicester Square Panoramas, I ahould like to
say a few worda. Henry Apton Barker married a
daughter of Admiral Bligh of the *' Bounty," with
whom my family were rerv iatimate. ' I dis-
tinctly remember goin^ to West Square, South-
wark, where Mr. Barker lived, and seeing him
in hiB wooden rotunda behind the houee, and
mounted on a moveable scafKjldinn', painting
«* Spitzhergen*' over the '* Battle of Waterloo/* He
was then, with his long* bi-ush, obliterating a
charge of cuimasiera with iceberga mud white
hears that quite chilled you to look at. This wa^
irobably in 1817, when I was four yeara old;
^ufc I also distinctly remember *'A\heos" in
Leicester Square — the Acropi>lis and the beautiful
attnosphere. As the canvas of ** Waterloo ** waa
used as I »iy, is it not probable that Mr. Barker
was the painter of the grreat battle ? I am tempted
to go on about Admiral Bligh.
At an even earlier date tuan that named, I was
sent with my nurse (who still lives with my
family) to stay at Farnin^ham, where the admiral
lived ; and he used to take me on his knee, and
let me nlay with the bullet that waa strung on a
blue ribbon round his neck, and had been the
weight he used for measuring the amount of
bread he could allow himself and crew in their
boat voyage of 4,000 miles. Bligh was a small
man with a hast}* temper. He sat in a library
walled with hooks, and the house had sea curi-
osities which he had collected for Mrs. Bligh,
It was asked who she waa in an early number of
**N. & Q.'* (2«^S. 11.411); hut no^nswer has
been given, I believe* I have heard the following
romantic story, but without names.
Mrs. Bligh was the daughter of a literary man
w^ho was associated with Adam Smith in his
writings on political economy, &c, The cause of
his retirement to Scotland was thus narrated : —
As a youth he had 1>een with a private tutor, a
clergyman : and Lord S. ( Sandwich ?) was a fellow
pupiL The young nobleman fell in love with the
tutor*8 daughter, and was consequently removed
by his relfttions ; but the lovers /igreetl to corre-
spond, and the pupil who remained was to be the
medimn of communication* Being however a
rival, ho stopped the letters on both sides, per-
suading the writers that tliey were faithless to
oach other, nnd ao succeeded at last in winning
the lady for himself. I have been told that Mrs,
Bligh, who was an intimate friend of mv mother,
was the only issue of this unhnppy marriage* Can
Any one clear or gainsay this tradition ?
The admiral was a Cornish man, and had a scar
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on his cheek. Gcorj^ lU, asked him, at SkUvet^
what action he had been wounded ; and
tell the story that, when a boy, he waa hell
father to catch a horse in their orchard, wl
father threw a small hatchet to turn the anion
unwittingly struck his son. Lady OToaneLl,
of the admirars daughters, waa » person of f^mt
spirit, and defended' her father with a vtitcil
against rebels during his governorship of\m
Diemen'a Land. Frances and Jan© Bligh w«r»
twins. Ann was a beauty, but mentally affiictid*
The admiral was a severe martinet, even al bomi;
and not a little was he angered at finding hb
daughters pursued from church by a Btraager^
who had been told, in answer to hie adyertisement
for a wife, to appear blowing his nose in the aifl^
of Farningham church, where a lady favounbb
to his views would be present. The ladlee, iinaW^
to reprc^ their laughter, betrayed themielr«8;
and their father gave both them and their dope
some very euiphatic broadsides irom hia tMUf
excited tongue.
Perhaps i have gone beyond my brief in the»
memoranda; but ** Bounty" Bligh was a man *
our naval countrj^ to be proud of. As a cavigal
shown in his conduct of the great boat Toyage ii
the Paeitic, be may be called, like NeUon —
** Ttu; greatest sailor since our world be^an.**
Alfbkd Gattt^ DJi
[We «rfl also indebted to the Rev. HL T. T
fr»r a. rtforonce to aa interesting notice of ) !
Barker^ E«{^ wbioli appeared in Ui« GtmUemaa » ju<i^-
sine for October* l«56.— Ed.]
I saw in England, many years ago, two Itrge
panoramas which I do not find on this list. Wilt
they not by these artists ? The one in Leiceitff
Square (anna 1821) was truly a gorgeoua and*
Geon/itts aflair, " The Coronation of George IV.**;
whereas that of King William IV. (the ItefoRD
Biii), which I witnessed in Westmin-J* " ^^'^'-^
in 1831, was, a^ *'IL B." facetiously if-
ouo of his clever caricatures, "A //
at ion.** The other panorama I saw i i
in 1823-4 was ''The Storming of Serii ,
and death of Tippoo-Saheb.
ie»
"1
>,A,L
WILLIAM BALIOL.
(4»*' S, vii. 302.)
Jolin Baliol had no brother named WUHam,
The competitor was the youngest son of DemrgilU*
and hia three elder brothers — Hugh, Alan, aad
Alexander— all died childless before be dauosd
the throne of Scotland, There is a pretty fto^i^
pedigree of the BalUola in IlobertsOQ*s Aynka^
Fnmifmy vol. i,, and of their T»r«dec€««ortH lbs Ik
Morvillea, in vol. ii. A Sir v/*"' nalllot nu
one of the seven Scots com; tO Fr»h»
in 1303. (Hailes' AnnaU.) \\ neuier he wii lb»
fVII, May 1^0, 71*)
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433
peraon mentioned by J. IL S. as buried at CuDter- 1
oury, or William Balliol (or Bmllie) of Iloprig
and Pens ton in East Lothian, it may be diliicult
to sav. The latter personage, wlio is said to have
niamed a daughter of the patriot Wallaco, waa
the ancestor of the Boillies of Lftoiington in
Clydesdale, wbero tbej have ilourished for fire
hundred jears. He is conjectured by the coo-
tiouator of Nis^bet^a Heraidiy to have been the
second son of Sir Alexander BalUol of Cavera, a
coflaieral relatiTe of the king of Scots. The same
authoritv states that Sir ^VJexandcr of Cavers
Toarriedisab*?l, heiress of Richard de Cliilham, and
widow of David de Strabolgi, Earl of AthoL If
this be correct, it is curious that this lady, who
died in 1202, lies buried in the east crypt of Can-
terbury cathedral, where I have seen her efUgy.
Her estate of Chilham is within a short distance
of that city. If "William Balliol was her son,
there woulcf be no unlikelihood in his being also
buried thtrre^ as stated by Weever. Though in
the Uev. Msuckenzie Walcott's MemoritdB of Crtw-
ftfhtirtf I observe no notice of any monastery of
Whit© Friars Observnuta. The truth is, that
there i^ a good deal of obscurity about the close
of the Scottish career of this great family. The
Bumajtie does not seeui to have been propcribed,
for ft Sir Henry de Balliol had a grant of Branx-
bolme in Roxburghshire fiora Robert Bruce him-
self (Robert^n's Iptde.v)^ nnd Thomas de Balliol
held lands in the same county till thij close of
Da^id Bruce's reign. Yet their French seigneury
of Bailie ul, at this very dnle, wias o blamed by a
ftsinale descendant of Ridu!phim de Coney. (See
X»ive8 of tfte Lindia^Sj vol. i. p. 32.) And the
Scottislt Baillies have never been able to explain
wJiy their anus are so diflferent from those of the
B^ftiola— the former being niue stars, the latter
AH orle — though complaisant genealogists have
tlooe their best to tiud a rcfiemblauce, or account
for til© discrepancy. A n g lo-Sc o rus.
** Scot*8 IlalU the undent iwat of the Scots, n family
nrofessiiig descent from William dc Balliol, le Scot.'' —
MuTTny*& Ilftndtwoh of Kent, p. 103.
** Spoil's Httll, whose founder?, the Scott*!, arc thought
to be riesccnrlcd from the ScoltiJih kingsi.**— Mackie's //i«-
iarical Acconni of Folktitone ami iU NeighboKrhocd^
p. l'J5,
In a foot-note to Fuller*s Worthies ^ reference is
made to a ballad on the Scotts in Peck's Uesidc-
ratti Cwioia and in The WarUL
Brabourne church, in Kent, contains memorials
of the Scott family as early as 14'i3. R. J. F,
Three pedigrees of the Baliol family are given
in The rofrirutHf edited by John Burke^ 1^47, iii.
174j 20o, 425, In two of them Sir William
BaUol Ic Scot U mentioned as the youngest brother
of John, King of Scotland, It is also stated that
'♦ Sir William waa buried at the White Friftrs
Obsenant at Canterbury, mentioned by Philpot
in Weever, and died about L'Ul.*^ The authority
adduced for making Sir William le Scot tlie
Younger brother of the King of Scotlatid is the
Addit. MS, 5520, fol. 188, whieh purports to be
** the true descent and lineage of the ancient and
knightly family of Scot, descended from the noble
familv of Biiliol, alias le Scot, of the kingdom of
Scotland." Coni^ult also HaHed'a Kent, 1790, iil
29S, 2t)3 ; but bis name does not appear in Dug-
dale^B Maronuffe^ or Douglas's Paerage^ J. Y,
Baroshurr*
THE SWAN SUNG OF PARSOX AVERY.
(4"»» S. vi. Am J vii. 20, 148, 288.)
The followinsr notices of persons of the name
of Avery who tlourished in tlie seventeenth cen-
tury may be interesting to Mk. Whitmore and
others : —
Avery, Amos. Commissioner for Berkshire for
the asaessment of sixty thousand pounds per
month, 1G56, (Scobell, Acti and Ordinances ^
ii. 402.)
Avery, Aruold. Justice of Peace for Berkshire,
1050. {Names of Judicts of Peace , ♦ . ^fichuel-
mas Terme, 11550, 8vo, 1650, p. 5.)
Averv. Henry. Soldier serving in Ireland in
1054. (Oeid. Mag. 18«3, ii. 706,)
Avery, Joseph. Petition for examination of his
accounts, and payment of Bi,(KX)/,, 1000. Had
been resident for Charles I. in Deuraark, Sweden,
and Germany for twenty years, during which
time he chiefly paid Ma own expenses. Lost an
estate of 80007., and the post of deputy -governor
of the Merchant Adventurers' Company at Ham-
burg, worth 40(W. a-year. (C«/. Stat, Pap, Uum.
1600-1001, p. 2(H).)
, Avery, liobert. A Royalist officer during the
civil war. (A List of Offkem clniming the Sixtj/
Thousand Pounds tpntntcd htj hia Sacred MoJ, for
the Relief of hijs truhf Loi/al and Indigent Party ^
4to, lG0:'j. [The list probahly gives thin person's
county and the colonel under whom he served,
I hftve only a memorandum^ not the list itself to
refer to].
A very ^ Samuel. Alderman of the City of IjOo-
don. MJ\ for London iu the parliament of 1054.
(Rushworth, Hid, Coll. part ii. p, 824 ; part iil*
p. 162; part iv., vol. i. pp. 180, 181, 373. Scobell^
Act^ and Ord. I)1>. Comniotis* Journals^ iii. .308 ;
iv. 670. Qd, of NanaH of mch as were siimmoiicd
to any ParLfrum 1040, 6vo, 10*31, p. 34.)
Edwabd Pkacock*
Botteaford Manor, Brigg.
I am much indebted to Mr. Maclean and Mr*
WiiiTMOKE for the iufonnation given me respect-
ing the probable ancestry of the Averya of New-
bury, Berks, That they were not of the same
434
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[•!*»» a TIL :aLif 20/
stock witli William Averj^ a pbysicion, wbo set*
tlefl at Dedliftiu, Mass,, 13 evident from the
differenco of their respective coatd of oruia ; Dr*
Avery'tf descendants fcearing' a c/tevron betweeo
tlireo bezants (Burke gife« it a fesae), and the
Averys of Newbury, Berks, tho same arms aa
Avery of Warwick ^hir".% ^* Ermine oa a pale en-
frrailed azure, throe lions' heads coupe d or." I
regret that I bare no chance of examining New-
bury registers, and thence coUectin;? any probnble
ancestry of Parson Avery, specially each ta would
establiBh bis cousinship with Anthony Thatcher.
I hare a ftiw baptisms between 1055 and K^lH, and
a memorandum that io 1607 Benjamin Avt-ry,
Richard Avery, and Timothy Avory were sub-
Bcribera to th'j Presbyterian nieetiug there. If
the arms of the respective families are correctly
borne they are not identical with tho American
Averys J but in those days, as now, the practice
doubtless prevailed of *' acod your uame, and your
arms shall bo sent in re I urn," it being a very
common error that every name luu arm<t| and the
only thing needful la to make a claim, after kpn
of time, treated as a right.
The Averys of Cornwall in all pfoti
descend from a common ancestor with
Avery, a somewhat conspicuous r in
troublesome timf?8 of Charles I. ^ -^\„
^iven in the Visitation of Someri^t ( ilad«iaii
MS. 1141), and is as under — the Samnel At
of London, merchant, being no doubt the &be
of 1G47| and the Aldernmn Arery who joint,
in proclaiminpr the Act for abolishing msclj
government, May iJO, 1C19. lie was cotnmi*
sionor for sundry City ordinances about b}4^^
and the State Paper OfHce contains letters from
him dated from Hamburg-, and addressed tiiLord
Uigbye and Sir Thomas" Kowe, Jan. 12, llMf.
p'urtter notices of him are found in Kix's JFini^
mnherge Manorinlf p. 15, The pedigree ii
follows : —
Arms : A chevron between three annuleta \
bezants ?) quartering azuro a ram*8 head 1
ar. attired or, Demford f
Win. Avciy, of Congrcsbury, co. So;jier«ol ss Ann, dau. .ind heir cjf Irish of Concrr^hury,
Jaci>b Avery, of Mella, co. Somer^t « Dorothy, dau. of Hugh Whitcorabo, of bticrbome, co. Donel.
iiow living^ l(i23.
JkRJaMia
Joseph A very =
of ironilon,'
merchant.
Franc w, dia. of
— Oeedei of
Londgn,
Chii?iti«n, wife to
John lri*h, of
Yftlton, Co.
Somerset.
Hnonah, wife to
Edind. Uobbs
of Congresbury.
Sarnael Avery *= Htrjtbellai dm.
of London,
niftrchnot,
2tjil son.
of— Bmil.
J
I have had the pleasure of correspunding: with
a cler^'yman in Cornw/tU, holdinj? preferment in
the county, of tho name of Avevy, who informed
me that the name is not an uncommon one in
pai-ticular localities, though ho was not able to
lorm an opinion as to their connection with
A very of bomerset or Avery of Warwickshire.
The Iflst-nnmed family had a dtacendaut, the Rev,
Joseph Avery, Vicar of Kirhy near Coliihe*ter,
KatheHne, aged 3, 1623.
Essex, from 1C8S to 1725. It b not ?r"'^»'^^"'^'
that the original grant of arms to Av-
wiekshire has been mixed witli docunii-.. . -
live to Essex property, and has thus conit* ^J
urchfu^o into the hands of your cojrespo&dait.
They are proclsely the arms borne by Itiebftpl
Avery of the Newbury family, as engraved for i
book-plate nearly 180 years ago. E. W*
THE COMPLETION OF ST. PAUL'S.
(4"^ S- vi. pmsim ;
vii. 185, 241, 344^ 300.)
Mn. Fergtjssoit may have satisfied himself
that Sir Chriatopher Wren created **ono of the
great defects of *b't. Paulas " in that he made ''the
four great arches of the dome all alike," but 1
venture to think that ho will tind few men who
have any real respect fur Sir Christopher to
agree with him, and that the other very posi-
tively expressed views in hiij letter, as to the
works which ought to be done, are m little de-
uyrving of acceptance.
P have not seen the Sacrnst^ or the article on
St. Paul's by Messrs. SoMsns Ci>iEiCfi tad
MjCKLKxnwAiiE; but it is somewhat romarkcUt
that shortly before itsappearf*^ ' ^ "' —'^Ti'aat»i
to several persons my very oi tx>
what I was infonned wereLii. * l. ....... jf tiw
committee ; and one of them having a^ed mo td
put my views on paper, I wrote the letter, of
which I enclose a copy, to Mr. IltchuMiod. l^
whom it Wfts laid before the commiltee. tka
letter, which advocated, as I gather, veij oosrlj
the same course as that suggested in the StKFwdj^
is at any rate evidence, 1 hope, tiuit A wnisf
which is suggested from various quftrte:^ in lio*
independent way, has not been advocated wittot
jmm
4*fcS. Vll. Ma¥2U, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
435
.
better groujida than Mr. Feegtjsson seems to be
prepared to admit.
Since mj letter to Mr, Eiclimond x^ns tvTitteo
and printed (by direction of the St. Paul's com-
mittee )t the decision as to the arran^^ement of the
organ bus been aimoimced. In a few wordi<, that
decision involves an absolute violation of Sir
Chri6tj:)pber \Yreii*fl own work, without any kind
rjf nec4?d?ity. Aiid this niui^'ular fatality seems to
attend all ihfi wo l;i execul>jd for the completion
of St. Puur^, The works already done have been
confe*seiily a eerica of mistakej — costly, but coni-
p1i«t»>. They are now, all of thoui, to bo undone j
i I* in their'pUco another mistake, coatly and un-
Li jessary, is to bo perpotrated. The organ la to
b*» put back on to a screen between the choir and
fhe domcj not aftor Sir Christopher Wren*s
•Ii- iirn Of aca>rding to any acheme which lie np-
fr *ved, but after (in this "country) a new fangled
plaji, wliich, in amite of Mb. Fjebgusson's certiti-
ctil«? that it will *^ perfectly remedy '* *'the de-
frrfs" of Sir Christopbcr Wren'a work, will, in
uiy opinion, ven' greatly damage what I conceive
to be one of ita beauties^
If Mr, Fergusson or the committee would ask
' ' org-aii-builder for Ida plain advice, untram-
I by the opinions of the musical committee
- , I undertake to say that it would bo
to replace the organ in ita old position
v.. ^^'- .....en, and to put such additional pipes, kc,
SS skTQ required under the western arches on each
»?;Th fli.- r-lioir. I am sure that Mr. Willis would
y that such an arrangement would be
y pVactieable, and that t&e or>7aniiit, beiug
plactfd at the north or south end of the inatru-
lO'jut, would be able to play equally well for the
choir in tho choir proper, or for a cboir placed;
as r proposed, under the dome.
So much for the organ, liut Miu FKRotrssox
jjn?? on t^ aF»y that ther« is another scheme which
urged on the committee by
arcbitecta." This scheme is
1, Uitir J ut concert with any one, pro-
[i> tha committee throuffh Mr. Ihch-
Ti I i 1 -\ iz. thut an altar under a baldachin should
b-' erected under the dome, with a small choir in
f;i*at of it cncbtaed with low marble screens, in the
v^ry ;nidtet of the people.
j' cm .^ I'M. ted to have fluthoiity for the fact
tbat ' - itJQguiiihed aichitecU *' approve of
gucb .1 - - :. May I ask whether it could be
equally 6ftid of the committeo*fi acheme that
'•several dL^liunfmahed architects '* entirely ap-
prove of it Y I have apoken to several, but have
mtt found oHs who does &tj /
I know your space ia llmitedi so I will conclude
with only a ft?w words more.
I protest ajraiust any work bciug doue in St.
Paultf which in any way alters Sir Christ^ripher
TVreu'd own work, or own recorded intentions or
designs. I make thia protest as an artist who
wishes tbo eame tender care to bo ^hown for Sir
Christopher's vrork and reputation that is sbown
by common consent for the work of the older and
generally unknown architocts of our old cnthe-
dralg, or fi>r every painter and sculptor whose
work is worth keeping at all ; and I do so because
I conceive that, under pretence of completing St.
Paur«, we shall have its interior so spoilt and
bedecked that the old inacnution to its architect
will have forthwith to be obliterated.
Mr. Fergusson sfiyp, however, that if a bnlda-
chin IS to be erected under the dome ^* it would
cost more money than the committee possess if it
is to be worthy of its position '' ; end on this I
will conclude with a practical suggestion* AH
the money the committee possess spent on one
really beautiful work of art would be far better
expended than on picking out walls with varied
colours, or erecting and re-erecting org^ms, mosaics,
&c. The committee bave akeady consulted Mr*
Burges as to a acheme of subjects for the possible
mosaics. Let thetn now go to him witb their
money (or half of it) in their banda, saying, " De-
sign U3 the most beautiful and costly baldachin
and altar that you can contrive; employ the beat
artists on it, and spare no pains to make it worthy
of its place imder our dome." I xmdertAke to say
that tcey would have in return a work of which
they might be proud, of which all England
indeed might be proud, and %vhicb would do more
to redeem St. Paul's from the charge of being
unworthy of our Church and great city than any
number of repetitions of mosaics such as we see
in the dome, or of organs so contrived as to con-
ceal Sir Christopher Wren*s so-called defective
work, or of other alterati<ina which must change
the whole chai'acter of the interior of his great
work. George EimtnrD SiEKBr,
AthcRsam Club.
1
I
OX THE ABSENCE OF ANY FRENCH WOBD
SIGNIFYING "TO STAND."
(4''' S. vii. 278.)
The peculiarity of the French language noted
by Mr. Trkncu is certainly worthy of inve^iga-
tion. Amongst the Aryan or Indo-European
tongues there 13 no radical so widely dlirused, cr
of such general application, as that of which wc
have the earliest ronn In the Sana. MM. So pro-
lific has been this root, that Professor Pott in his
EtynwlotjtAche Forschtmtjen gives a list of deriva-
tives occupying sixty-three closely printed pages
from this single monoayllable. The disappearance
of its primary application in the French lan^ua^
is all the moVe remarkable. It is not absolutely
correct to say that all traces of it have disappeared.
There is a verb still in use, though in a very limited
aense, ester, which is the legitimate descendant
436
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4'»»31VJ1.1£4TS0.^
and representntire of the original Latin " fltnre.**
Iq the early stages of tho IttDeuage it was ufied in
the nonse of " to stand/' m in the jfollowiag in-
stances:—
" Au cAinp aU^t que ne spu>us t'aiflcux."
{** Staod your ground, that we be not conquered.")
ChanMon^dt Hofand^ eleventh eentury,
^'Bien puis diro sans metilir; jel fah ctttr vivro ct
•entin*'
{*^ I can any without untroth, I can make him stand
npi livo and feel/'
Moman de h Ro*f, thirteenth ««itanr.
Gradually, however, its application wat re-
stricted, and by the sixteenth century it hnd
settled into A law term ; *'edtr en jug-ement/* to
pursue or defend in an action ; **e^«r k drt>it/* to
put in an appearance. It is wortliy of remark
that Cotgrave (lOt'iO) interprets eyfiTf " to at and,
endure," io addition to itJ* application os a law
term. Tarrer says, it is still used figuratively in
the sense of " hesitalinf^ ■' or ** pausing/^ but 1
bave never mot with it in this Benee.
It bag been a moot point with philologists
whether cire is derived from Lat. ttme. or from esser
in low Latin e^nej-e. Meuage * and iSir Comewall
Lewis t adopt the former deiivatioB, but the
ErepooderRnce of modem authorities,, Littr4 J,
Iraehet §, IlBilly |1, &.c.f inclines to the latter.
There can be no doubt that the iuiperfect ^im\
(estois), the participles of the present /?o»^ (estant)
and of the past ^(4 (estij), are derived from dabmuj
If the direct expression for stand in ji has dropped,
inaotne mysterious way, out of use in French, the
reTerse has taken place in Italian, where " stare '*
is used with almost every imaginable meaning,
not only of standing, but that of delaying, tarryiogi
continuing, ceasing, pas,sing, costing, kc. " Stando
pochi giorni,'* A iVw days since; " Q iianto vi sta
questo quadro?" IIow much did ihi.^ pictuie
cost? ** Sta a toI a veniiv,'* It is your turn to
come, &c. Calling on a friend in Iwome, I am
informed bv tho ** domestical," *' 11 Big nor uon sta
bene, sta a letto,*' literally, " Master does not stand
"well, he stands in bed/'
There seems to bo in the French langnago a
fltmnge tendency to prefer circumlocutory expres-
sions, and to dmp those which express the same
idoB more directly. Thus, down tc* the close of
the seventeenth century, to ride on horseback was
expressed by ** chevaucber/* a most expressive
word for which we have no equivalent This has
altogether disappdaredi and its place is takea by
• Oriffhutdela Lnntjue franco'tMr^ 1650.
f E§my on tht RomaHCe Languages^t !>f(i2*
\ Dichonttalrt dt la Lanf^ue fnim^Ue (not yet com-
pleteO
I JHttutHnmre riymnlot/iqvf, 1870.
I ManMtl He* RacineM, 1»69.
the clumsy expressions '' aller k dterml,** ^
meoer a cheval/*
Tho numerals " septante,'* ''octante/* or •'bttl^
tante," ** novante/' have within the same
been thrown over, to be supplanted by t'
brous forms ** soixante-dix,'* ** quatre-^
** quatre-viugt-dix," which in the ordinal
such as ** quatre-vingt-dix'septi^me " for
•^ ninety-seventh," is about &s awkward a
pbrasis as can be imagined. J. A. Flcitiir,
Sandyknowe, Wavertree, near LiverpooL
^Ir. Tbe2vch'8 remark, that the French haTC t
word to express our word ^* to stand,'' is (
only so fnr as you might say, that the Kn|fliiin
has no word to express *' to sit down,*' b^aUM ll
requires three words to exprew it. I
French Bible at hand for tho Old Testan
the psssage in Dent, xviii. 5 does not mei^
stand/* in the sense of being upright on one*j
and IHodad translates it, **si presenti perl
servigio nel Nonif* del Signore. nafntmi
Ki/pfovToS ^toZ (LXX), means to bt) pre£t*nt 1
and not to stand. In thid sense **aJMister*
better than our rendering, because in French ** i
fsister " means, not so mnch to aid as to he fm
nty as ** assiater a la mesee." So in Mark xLl
tfra*' trrriKijTt 13 rather when you eball haa
be standing and praying, or may be prayi
when in act of prayer, *' loi
Here it is not so much that i
got the word, as that we havr u-i'^* ^
owing to the translators of our Bible having id-
hered too literally to the Greek words. Bcffl^
tions iii. 20, "Me voici a la porte, et j'y fraj»p<,''
is A precise equivalent for the sense of the Grwk,
though it does not connote the uuimportant par-
ticular of the posture of the person knocking. If
that were important, a Frenchman could sav,**Me
voici tkbotit a, la porte/* &a In Ileb. x. il, ibt
pns.«age contrasts with sitting ; hence, if there ^
validity in the remark at all, it is here or Dfr»
where 'that it will apply. ♦* Every priest sUmM
daily mlniBtering," — **tou3 les pretres se pr$#Brt^
ent tons les jours (a Dieu) sacritiant/' Tliis ttit*
df^ring is not nearly so correct as the Fwnch Ian*
guage is capable of making it It ci^uld he doot
thus r " cbnque pretre »c tient dehmd adminiMniHt
tons les jour.i, et offrant," &c. Di ' ' ' ' ' '
thought so, for be gives it " ogni
pie ogni piomoministrando/* tocotiUfist lur *f **'j^*
as strongly as possible with **d po«to a m4#»*
in V. 12. *'Se lieut dehont,'' •• e lo pi^" m
exactly equivalent in the meaning, and ia tht
number ot words u?ed. It seems, as I Kiid at
firsts that the question turns K\Y>tx whether tht
rendering is to be by one word or three. Tbf
French cannot express *' ho stands'* bv one woTd,
but there is nothing we can aay with tlie verb ** to
stand *' that « Frenchman oatmoi expioii jnut ii
4<*S, VlLMAT20/nO
NOTES AND QUERIES-
437
"welL Of course you can call it circumlocution,
but this 18 so triviril an issue, tliat nobodv, pro-
bably, would car© to maintain it. Due French
word may require three in Enj^h'sh, or vice verstL
Is it circumlocution that all English infinitivea
rcqtiiro two words to expreea them, whilst the
Prench use only one (except id reflective verbs),
&a *' manger," ** to eat " ? I trow not.
One thing that comea out of nil this minute pre-
ci&ion is, that the posture in prayer has cbaiiged.
An Oriental stood and stands to pray* a Jew stood,
a Koniao stood, a mystic falh* upon the face liat,
n Chridtinn kneel.*. To "stand and pmy •' ia the
Eofflish Biblic4il pbra^se. In St. Gileses church they
used to put a notice in every pew aa to the pos-
tures considered to befit the Engllnh service: *'To
Atand for ascription of praise, to eit to hear, to
kneel to pray/' In spite of Pliilippians ii' 10, vdnf
y6rv Kdutlrrf, I doubt if kneeling be aught else than
a feudal symbol of vaasala^'e, coraDienctng about
the eighth century, with the kissing of Leo's ttie, if
M early. In 127o it was ordered that every knee
ibould'bend at the name of Jeaus — a case, Afor-
twrif ii bent to a baron or master* It has grown
preodiptive, but neither manners, dignity, nor
aoliqmty recommend it, and also some evil has
eame of it, as of every ill change. C« A, W,
M»jr fair*
This curious fact has been already remarked
npon by Thomas Fuller with hia usual quaint-
■•As their (the Fremb) langunf^c wariti'th am proper
woftS t4» expn*$4 »eand^ m their uatur(?:s nil-iike a si'ltled,
Ibced poAturCt aocl deltglit in motion and D^^itation of
l^itsloeBi.**— i^u/y Warrty Cum bridge, 1010, p. 19.
W, R. C.
CUjgoir.
Liko vonr correspondent, I have been under the
impression that there are no words in the French
Longuape to express ** to stand," ** to sit/' *^ to lie
down ' i and tlmt, from thut want, it would be
impossible to express with the simplicity and
pathos of Shnkspeare, Dry den, and Byron, these
thoughts : —
'*She $at^ like Patience on a tnonum«nt*"
" Upon the earth Ihe monarch //Va."
* I ttotni in Venice on the Bridge of Sighs."
I have only to add the want (as far as I know)
of three verbs expreaaing ordinary locomotion —
*«Iwalk/* "I ride;' •* I drive." The verb **I
^Bralk *" exists, I am told, in Sanscrit ; but except
the Anglo-Saxon, all uther Aryan people have
dropped it The French "se promener" means
twenty things ; " se promener a cheval,** " sur les
tmxx^ ** en voiture, &c,
Aa for riding, the French have allowed their
good old word " chevAucher '* to become ob^lete»
and I am not aware that they have adopted any
I
other. Again, they have no one word to express
'•driving," in the sense of motion in a carnage.
*^ I shall walk to Greenwich, John will ride^ and
the ladif?3 will drive,-^ could ouly bo rendered in
French by three periphrases.
I shallbe glad to be corrected by some French
scholar. J. C. M,
In Max Miiller's Chips from a German Work*
shopf vol. iii. p. 176, in his article on " JoinTille/'
who lived about 1300, the author, noticing the
changes which have occurred in the French lan-
guage, ifiter <i/*a, observes : " We still find estei*,
*^to stand * (et ne povit ester sur ses pieds, * he
could not stand on hia feet ')." At present the
French have no single word for *' standmg,'' which
has often been pointed out as a defect in the lan-
fruage. *' To stand " u ester in Joinville* ** to be "
IS cMrtt, J, H- L,
Cambrid^
MARGARET FESDLES, LADY MORTIMER.
(4"»avii. lL>,223,S18.)
Your learned correspondents HERMEiTTRirDE and
D. F, have moat ingeniously puzzled themselves
into believing that there is some mystery about
the parentage of ** Margaret de Fmdhs^ the kins-
woman of Queen Etewnor, who married Edmond
Lord Mortimer of Wigmnre.*^ Margaret was tnji
a Spaniard (whatever the erudite Smyth of Nibley
may have said), but wm a daughter of the weD-
knowu Anglo-French house of Fiennes or Fienles ;
and she is duly recorded in their family pedigree
by French and English genealogists of every grade,
from r. Ansel nie (vi, 107) to Baker (ii. 273J.
Fmolies and Fettdles are mere blunders of the
copyist, hut the name was written in a variety of
ways in the English records; and her father is
called in his Ltq. p, m. (30 Edw. L 33) ** Wil-
lielmus de Fyenes ala Fenea als Fyeulea/' The
French seigneurie of Fiennes was one of the
twelve baronies comprised in the county of O ma-
nes, in Picardy, and was therefore in close vicinity
to the county of Ponthieu— the maternal inherit-
ance of Qutfi^n Eleanor; but the Sieurs de Fiennes
had, from the reign of King John, possessed the
manor of Clapham in Surrey, and other lands in H
England. Margaret was probably horn abroad; S
for when her father Sir William died, in 1302,
his eldest son John (then aged twenty-five and
upwards) is said in the Fine Roll to nave been
bom in ** parts beyond sea." This is the John
d© Fienles whom 'Edward XL calls his kinsman,
in his letter to the town of St. Umer in 1310
{RoL Chm., 10 Edw. II,).
Margaret's relationship to Queen Eleanor is very
clear. Her father Sir William de Fiennes, was the
grandson of William de Fiennes by Agnes de
Dammar tin, the sister of Simon de Dummartin,
I
I
J
438
NOTES AND QUEKIES-
[4*»S.TI1.MatS0.7L
Count of Aumale aud Pontbieu. the maternal
gmadMIjer of Queen Eleanor. The queen had
evidently a strong affection for her cousins of the
house of Fiennes, for she gave a rich dowry to
Maud de Fiennes (tb© Q\mi of Margaret Morti-
mer J on her marriage with Humphrey de Bohun
(Dugdale), The brief pedig^ree below will show
clearly all tb'i^e connections, and can hi verifii
frrjm 1\ AnsLdine, vob. vi. and viii. ; and VArt
Verifier lc& dafe.% 6vo, vols, xi, and xiL It wlU
seen that riEKM^ENmrDE ib mistaken ill nfiiertxQgl
that tljo queen's maternal grandmother ww *"
of France.
Simon Datamiulln, Count d'Aamnlc =s Marf , Countess
and of Pontliieu, jure mx., died 123^. I of PoutUieu.
K^m DammoiCin ^
WiUhimd«]
died i^4K
JanCt Coiint<i»s of Ponthiea
aud Aumalu, died 1279*
Eleiuinp, Qaeen of Edwnrd I.,
Counteea of roothicui died
1290.
Ferdinand III. Kin^ ofCastille,
died 1262.
sou mid heir.
Wia. de Ftenncs sou aod Ueifp «s DIancIiede
di(yl 1SU2. Brietmo.
Mnttd, wif« at Hmnpbltjrl
Boliun, Eiirl of P
Margaret Fiennef, samctimcj callod lilaty ^ Edmonc!, Lord Mortimer of Wigmors,
TxwiiuL
It ia not in the iiigiUa ComUum Flamln<t^ but
in the Gt^eahtfia Comiium FUtndrife^ a larger
worli of Olivier do Wree (Latinixed " Vredius '),
that the name of Fienlea occurs. 1 have bc»th
foMoa; the former (a particularly fine copy) in
Flemish, the latter in French. I'he Fieules pedi-
gree occurs at p. DO, table 13, and from ^it I
extract the following information : —
Isabel, daughter of Guy, Count of Flanders
(died l'30-l), by his wite Uabel of Luxeniburg,
married Jean, Seigneur de Fienlea, Cbafitclain de
Bonrbourg'T Seigneur de Tingri, kc. Their eoala
are appended to documents given in vol. ii.
pp. 130^ 140, and are engraved on p. 02. These
documents are dated 13ti0. Tbo inscriptions are
as follows: — ^ s* iohasis . dSji . de . FiENLEe .
MiLiTis. On another seal : s\ tonia uki de I'Iek-
LES ET CA8TELLANI DK nOlJKBORGH MILIT*. The
counter-seal of tbia hears: ^ Ox' s' lonis dni
DK FrELES(t*zV) ET C18TJ1IXA:!TI DE DOVEB . MILIT.
The arms on the shields and horse -trappinp^^ are
the lion rampant (Arg, a lion ramp. sa,). See Burke,
Qetieral Armortf, a. v. ** Fynea '' and ** Fines." On
the seal of Isab J, fienlles ; and on the coimter-
«eal, FIENLIE— are variations in the spelling of
the title. The Fon of John and Isabel wa-i Robert
de Fienles {Did. Moreau), Coostahle of France,
llis seal is appended to an agreement by which
certain exchanges were eiVected between himself
and Louis Count of Flanders, &c., and bears date
13G6. Its inscription is: le sfEEL » bobebt de
FrENKES. Here we have the name in the form
farailinr to ns, It is thus spelt also iu another
document : " Kobert, Sire de Fiennes, Connestable
de France/' kc, &c. (dated Nov. 22, 18CC). The
seal bears the above arms, timbred with a helmet
crested with a stages head, and supported by two
gryphons. Pie died childless,* and his niece Maud
(daughter and helfeaa of his nst^r Jeaan^ Vf Jmm
de ChatilloD, Count do St. Pol) enrried tmam
to her husband, Guy de Luxembourg, Cosisis
Ligny, St. Pol, &c. Thiebaut, younger tnulhir
of Louiii de Luxembourg, Count de SL i*ol, thnt
generations later, had Fiennea tis his appoaa^
and it remained in the posse^ssion of bis desoiBi'
ants. ( JaquelinCf Duchess of liedford, wai ilittf
of Guy and Thiebaut)
So much for the history of the fnTnile .,r FI,rTr4
or Fiennes. I find no trace of :
or of any connection with Queen ^
tile, wife of King Edward I. But I
inscription on one of the seals quo ted
explam the mystery. It occurs to mo that ^lo^ta,
or somO otber chronicler from whom Ik^ c-^i^^*^*
baa been misled by that or a similar
perhaps taken from au imperfect iai]^
seal, and reading ** D"' de Fienles et '
kCf has attributed to the owner of
Spanish origin — miiitiikiug the **Ctt-
the title of Castile. (** Castell'* aopeii:
royal seals of Spauii^h origin in tae voimiio im'^
me,) It i^as an eii^y st<?p then to assume ft c^tub-
ship between Eleanor of Castile and the oc»Ut«<i*
porary William de Ift^ndles, who may haff W«
a father or brother of Isabella's husband leaxL
JOHJT WoODWAlt.
In the pedigree of the family of Fienues, la tk
Troph{cs du Brahmd (i. So.*!), we are told thtf
Eustace, who married Adela de Fumes in 10^
was —
*• Sieur ct Baron de Ficnnc*, rime 4c5 doooe RimoaS*
do la Comtd dc Guinea, ap^teli^ auci«nueta«Bi djUs» ta
Chart res Fienles,'*
I The arms engraved aro ; Argent, a ItoQ
I sable.
i**s*vn. Mat2o,7l]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
439
PAMPHLET: ITS ETYMOLOGY.
(S**^ find 3'« 3, pmsim.)
^^'' n Dr. Doran quoted TAe Afhrueiwij where
lilt^t '* is gjiid to bnve been the* name of a
ii V ' ^ who lit'st employed her-
jicl iletSj 4fcc,^ I fuppo«ed the
eu^^L'r.nuJu v.ui uc::u_;ued 03 a joke against etyiuo-
logiats, because he produced no proof that this
Ti3ttraiiiou3 authoies^ did wrUo pamphlets; but
i«cently a very rare work has coiuo into my pos-
session, whicn thus describes the extraordiniiry
merita of a Udj of this name : —
ipkyle areca B > '■ ' ntrice. — Pjimp1iilr»m
greeani ktninnu i im boimm rcvpub-
it temporibos fci ! i « ct tjt'neroaa vif-
tote flf»rai«8« compertum cat. lii'c quii>p6 otdi AmplLs-
limu titulis decoroH non posf^tt, tftmen quoniarn nliquiil
" 'it hoaU sua portiofie lamlH tttcitumitates
,i non debet. Quo cum t:--i»et ingcntH iu-
prima (ot qtiidani auctores vgluut) <?x
tiiem Bombiccm collc^at : ct ilLim il f^uper-
nu r6 mn^lo pectine pur^'are primnm cepit, et
Eurgauuti C':.l ' ■- ■' . :' ■" niuin tra-
ere ccpit : et i docuit.
jurgai-nrti I
lere ccpit : et
Et »»c ilium t;
duxJL Co,! as i^v ruLiu •
tfim in r«(HquH Agtindl$ <l
Jii: '^' ' Fit rati Btrff(if<'i
**'r MtdieribuM (jput,
FrrT -. . '7.
II inLro-
iisse."—
.■:,s Ii-: ju,iniJiis ctartM
I'o, 7lxk\ C!»p. xxxiii.
In thd woodcut which accompaniea the text,
thit illiMtriou* lad J is represented as holding a
book in her hand, prohablj her handbook teach-
' ahe had iuTented (the rearing of silk-
botind with the thread she had
MM I
-1;:
Althouj^i tlie article now known to ourselves untlcr
' '^ " * fimilidr as honsehold woniV Jt't it^
V ere but obscurely, if at all, ascer-
smes, Flinji% wbosc jnd^ient and
As & compiler are not greiitly to be relied
that the hombi/m (or silkiworm) lira native
1 <■ .1, Ml... nn archipelago. It
■A there nt a very
u>jly cxpkined that
ilf pri^duufcii Irutn the bumbyx^ was
bv the women of that inland* The
was r*imphUia. She unwove
:ccniupi>3e it in her loom into
1 tcxlurc: thus convertiriiy the
i* into thin trauspareut gauze,
! was lost ia substance^ At-
•^ '- the inrentrcss of all the
bv identifying^ the 6t*ot-
'I'-n it r? '^v\ PamnhvHri
SHEFFIELD FOLK-LOHE.
(4*'* S, Til. 209,)
Jtist as '*jannock** m another fomi of the word
which in modern En^^lish appeirs a.-* "even," go
" retchet " ia another fiirra of Old Engl, hmchet or
hrttchrte. The forma Irnches^ hranhezy bracketed ^
rachchfs, rnchez^ am all met with in Sir Ga^
wttynt? ami the Green Knight* The connectiofi
is with A.-S* racte, Dan, diaL rfihke^ O. N.
racki^ &c., and the Promptonttm entry is " ratclm^
howndt'/* *' Gabriel hounds" i% therefore, only
a tranalfttian (so to speak) of ** Gabriel ratchet/'
The most curioua part of the term, however, is
the preiix " GabrieV* '* Gftbble/^ or, as sounded
here, ** GaaVrL*' For a long time I could obtain
no clue to either ic5 iiipnninijf or its derivation, nnd
nntwithstandinff the Cffthoficon Angl. entry, '* Qa-
biielle rache, hw caniahott^*' I was utterly unable
to ix>nnect the said prefix with the persoual name
it fleeraa to reproduce. At lejgth an entry in
Prompt. Parv. ^ave me the clne^ nnd I was enabled
to explain '* Gabriel'* or '* Gabble,'^ the latter
beings merely a coiTiiption of the former. The
entry referred ta ia as follows: — ^' Lt/vhej dede
body. FmntSj gahart^ a F. et re. in Gabriel
dicU gabaiwif vel ffabbaf*en,'^ Gaharmi or gahharefi
then, which, by the authorities q^uoted {^firiva*
lerms in Campo Florum, and VffuHio or Ut/idio,
both ancient vocabularies), ia interchangeable with
Gabriel^ toother with gaharcA^ is clearly aynony-
mous with funm^ in the sense of corpse or dead
body ; and if coniinufttion were required^ Fiiccia-
lati ^vcs ** Gabborfe, vel Gnbbares, cndavera apud
/Egyptios pollinctorum arte delibuta, arefacta, et
a corruptioue immunia, mummies,^' ** Gabriel-
ratchet,'* or ** Gabble-ret I-' hot," therefore, when
translated into Englii^h, beeoin*?> simply "corpse-
hound," and challung'es comparison with Dan.
iiifj-hvalpj liitj'hund^ Ilclrahhr or lle!rakh\ &C. ;
only rememhenn^ that, while /% ia th^: same
woTi\ as O. Engl, h/che^ A.-S. //r, //t-t, E. lick (in
Uch-i^ntt)^ Hd^ m the name of the goddess of
the dead, is strictly synonymous. In this diatrict
the '*unbaptiaed babies" form of the myth ia
not known, but there are two, in a sense, dis-
tinct ^^snperatitious " notions connected with the
'* Gaab'rl- ratchet/* one of which corresponds ex-
actly with Dan. hehukk^r as defined l>y Thiele,
" a sound heard in the air, very like the uayingf of
homids, and when heard, taken to pre?age death
and wasting'*; the other is almoat tdenticjU with
Old Dan, hd-rakke^ describtid b}' Mulbech as — ■
*• A bird with a Lsr^e bcfv!, stariiijg: evc^, crooked beik»
sharp obiws, which in days of yore ww heli<»vcd to .ippear
onl V as a harbiniicr of some j^reat mortality, but then to
fiy abroad by night nnd ahrick aloud.**
I have had sundry very curious comraunicntions
touching the ** Gaab^rl-WUiUft^*' m^^Jwfe V> \ew^/vq.
all good faith/^y ftom^ ol m-j C:^a^^^sscQ^^^^'^•
440
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[4»k S, Til, Mai 'iO.'TLl
bours. One ioTolved tlie correct way of averting
the omen^ which I think Jael Dence wbb not '* up
to.'* Of course, as Mb. Britten Ru^gests, the
connection is with the mullifnrm as well as many-
named " Wild Huntsman" legend*
Danby ia OeveUnd, J, C. Atkinsof.
The word nicM in the phrase '^ Gabhlo retchet"
(provindai far '* Gabriel lioiinds '^) mcana ** foot-
scenting hounds/' The A.-S. form is race; E.
Eng, racche. In Sir Gawai/ne mtd Green Knight
(E. E. T. SO the word is often used :—
**& SLY racliches m u. res radly hern fol^ei,"
(U116L)
*• JBaldely J>ay blir prya, bayed Mvr rachchej/'
(U 13G2,)
In the Onnuium (I. 13505) we get —
'* Kthbt Alls an bannt« takcti^ der
Wi>)> hifto 3aspe racclieas.''
The Promjd. Parv, (p. 422) interprets **oclo-
linBecus, quasi o4oreni st*queu3," &c,
** Ilacche " seems to be a Northern fonn of
**Brache"f or, a^ some say, *'Brache" is the
feminine of ** Racche." The form " Brachet'' is
common, John Addis.
MuKQO Park and thk Moss (4^** S, Tii.298.) —
You may consider the following little incident as
worthy of insertion in your periodical, which I
always read with pleasure : —
You quote pasHRges from the Memoir of Dr.
James MamHtoti ; a email error exists in one of his
remarks. He says that Sir William Hooker pos-
sessed the moss which saved Mungo Park's life in
the burning wastes of Africa, and also that it had
been given by Dickson to Sir William. This is
not precisely the fact. The old man, about the
Tear 1810, snowed it to the then youjigand ardent
totaaist, who much desired to purchase it. Dick-
son, who was a herbalist, and sold medicinal
plants at his sttdl in Covent Garden Market, pro-
bably thought that the gentleman might be wil-
ling to give a fancy price, and accordiu gly said
that he " would not part with the specimen for
leas gold than would [not weigh as much, but as
would] cover it." On which, Sir William Hooker
diew a guinea from his puise, and carried olF the
prize.
It is correct that the tin? moss was always
shown to the botanical class duriug Sir W' illiani's
lectures; and always accompumed with the high
lesson which it conveyed, and which ho would
have been the last mau to omit.
People have erroueouply supposed that a moss
may have '* saved Mungo i*ark a life," iu the same
aeti£e as the so-called moss (tripe dt* roehe) pre-
aerred Franklin and Richardson from ti>t^d starva-
tion. But the identical plant to which, and to
the reflections which it suggested, Mungo Park
tor^^H
icy oTi^l
was indebted for his life, is hardly bigg^i Ihait
man's thumbnail.
As Sir William Hooker's widow, and
his wifts when Dr. James Hamilton was oi
favourite students and a frequent visitor
house, I can attest the gene ml accnmcy
Hnmilton's statements; and, hut for
ness, I should have sooner read the ** N, Jk Q.^
of April Sf and sent the above infomiatiuD.
MA&iAUoons.
Torquay.
Gr-uttham Im? Sighs (4** B, vii, S43.) — Tkt
great number of inn signs at Grantham havifir
the prefix Wwe, aroso out of electioneerini'
tests about the close of the l^t or the be^
of the present century. Blue, contrwy to iLt.
moj^e customary in most parta of the kingdma, is
in Lincolnshire the whi»j, or rather, ia these dtyiy
** the advanced liberal '* party colour. Sir Williim
Talmash. afterwards Lord fluntingtower, r* ^^-
centric cWacter, son of Louisa Countess
sart, by her husband John Manners^ Ef , , ^
Grantham Orange, inherited from bis fatfitf •
considerable estate in that borouffh and itd nwigk*
bourhood. At the period referred to he adfOOKted
** the oM blue cause/' and, either with a new of
increasing his political influence or from apnce,
he changed the signs of all the public bouaef tlyii
he owned into Blue Men, Blue linns, BlueBou^
Blue Sheep, S:c^ So great indeed was his admui'
tion for this colour that he was even chidreda&ft
blue bull with gilt horns and hoofs. Gtaotliia^
besides being noted for its excellent ^inrabfwL
cheese-cakeSf and raised pork-pies, did loDg,m
possibly now can, boast of a uni<|UO heet'bom
sign in the shape of a living beehive pezcM^
the top of an M poHard tree. It may be
while to odd, that its cosy old Angel, well hiom
to many a Nimrod, was an hostelry in tlieliiBtof
King John, and tradition asserts that that moBaA
once lodged there, Ap CoillvH
Ckari^ I. (4*^ a tU. 342.)^The Eul «f
Essex has at Caahiobury a small piece of ikt
ribbon of the Garter given to Bishop Juxon ; it
is sky-blue. I have heard that the greatef p»rt cf
the ribbon remjuued in the family reprastoite
Juxon for several generations, and was desbro^
by a lady to annoy her husband*
Thb Kkioht of MmLO.
Judicial Oaths (4"" S. vii. 209, 354.) — lit
much surprised that HGRMENXBtTDE has io ee9*
plctely mistaken my meaning. It is that if tk
mere words of the Bible, " Swear not at
are to be taken in their literal sense, wilhonl
planation, so are its words, ** Call no man
lather upon the earth **; and how then call
who obey the one injunction nay no reirHrl tn
other? It was most distinctly impl
in what I s&id| that as in the one
m
L Mat 20, 71,]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
441
shown from otber texts of Scripture) it
forbiddcm to take a judicial oiitb, m in
r the iDJ unction " bnd (to use IIbemen-
rords) tio reference to tlie natuml epithet
A child to ita father/' I asked those
I objected to onths of any kind» to defend
ilBtt-ncy. In making: this demand then
ling wa^, I bnmbl? think, qviite clear, and
ENTRUDE bad no ground to say that I
kot of a truiam. G.
igb,
DE5 Fahilt (4*" a Tii. 189, 273. 233.)—
resting, of course, to know what idea
pden had of tbe true spelling of bis
le; but it settles nothing, or very little,
Ihat idea. I have in my posaesi^iou a
^t, Ump, Elizabeth, in wJiicb tbe principal
^cerned sigi^s bia name with one spell-
mn fioa with another as witueaa, while
ia spelt ditierently from both by the law
10 dr«w up the deed, I am still in the
to tbe descendanta of all those cousins of
ipden, from some of whom tbe late
Hereford, and the Alice referred to m
lal query, must be derired.
W. M. IL C.
AA FLAMnriua Flaccus " (4*'* 8. vii.
'he liaes alluded to were extemporised
J Smith on seeing Jeffrey riding upon
' ijvecified at the end of them. They
inaccurately quoted, and sbouldj if
erfes me, run as follows ; —
Titty ftj Ilorotius Flaccu^,
I great ft Jacobin a* Gmcobus;
t flhort, but not as Tat, as Bacchoii,
iented itpoa a Utile jackajs.
F, GtEJ>STA^E3 WaXTOU,
■nd Cambridge Clttb.
ea which 11. R, wishea to be informed
to be found in Lady II ol land 'a Life of
nithf p. 202, vol i. I,. A.
[)TAL Ajssext (4**' S. Tii. 355.)— The
referred to in ** Notices to Correspon-
ppeared in an obscure eheet called ibe
^ GasttU (or Journal)^ and was copied
lodged thence by the Daily I^ews,
J'imi. Admriimr, The reason given by
Iter for the assertion that the assent to tbe
Ihurcb Bill was null and void woa that no
► pre^sent except the myal commissioners
\ assent was given. It* my memory serves
r Paragraph (which of course was pure
[aid not rest tbe objection on tbe ground
Mice of the hi^hops. I have rea^^on to
I paragraph originated with a notorious
Bwspaper editorsi wbo*e opinion is of no
FiLIUS ECCLKSI^
OF HoNOiTR (4''* S. Tii, 343.)— I am not
[ the existence of any authorised list, such
as Erdt inquires about. If be will faTour mo
with an address, I will try to collect for him as
correct a one as my opportunities allow, either
from 1088 or earlier; hut I cannot guarantee tho
exact aoeuracTi or more especially tbe fulness, of
such a compilation. Such a list, moreover, could
not be made out in a day, IIermkntbube.
*' 0 Gemini ! " {P^ S. viL 351.)— I am inclined
to think tbat LTii. DixoN is wrong in hia conjec-
ture that tbe above exclamation has anything to
do with the ** great twin brethren,'* Romulus and
Remus. I have alwa^^s understood it, as well as
tbe *' Gemelli *' by whom tho Italian peasants
swear, to refer to the Dioscuri, Castor and Pollux,
who were pkced among the stars as Gemini by
Xeus. Being worshipped both in Greece and Italy
as the protectors of trayellers by sea, they would
of course be frequently appealed to in sudden
straits j and although a behef in them no longer
exists, we find^ the traces of it in our now sense-
less exclamation. Abchd. Watsok.
Robert Blatr, the AmnoR op " The Gratb **
(4«'' S. iv. 28, m\ 164.) — Mr. \V. B, Cook
(p. 120), in pointing out several of Blair's plagi-
arisms, mentions one nassage as imitated from
Henry More of Cambridge. It is, I think, worthy
of note thnt in Dryden'a Maidm Quren the same
idea occurs. Is it not then very likely that the
author of The Grave copied not from More, but
from ^^ Glorious John'* biini*e]f. Tbe latter at
least is the better known of the two. The pas-
sage I refer to is : —
** I feci my love to Philoclca wiibin me
Shrink nrnJ pull back my heart from thia bard tn'iil i
But it my St be when glory say a it mvifd.
A3 clultlrcii Hading from some river's bank,
I irnt try the; water with their tender rect ;
Then Ahudd'riDff up with cold, atep back again,
And itratp^ht a little farther venture on,
Till at the lai^t they plunge into the dcup,
And paaa at va<x what I hey were duubting long."
Act V. Seeae L
EbWARD lilMBAULT DiBDIX*
£<lJQburgh«
Orders of KxiGOTaooD (4*** S. v. vi. pfim'm r
vii. 100, 197, 345.)— If S. bad read my "sugges-
tion*' with more attention he would have seen
that it contains the answer to his fir^t objection,
I lis tender feeling with respect to the sovereign's
prerogative is most praif?e worthy, and I fully agree
with him in it, for I have come of a race who
have drawn their swords and «hed tbeir blood for
more than one century wherever their sovereign's
dag has been imfurled by land or sea ; but thera
are dignities which neither king nor kaiser can
confer. ** Tbe king can make an earl or a duke,
but God alone can make the chief of Olenroy,**
quoth the old Highlander* Some may value the
brand new title fresh fiom the mintj others priz©
442
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«fcS.VII.MAT«),7L
the '* blue blood '' and lon^ pedi^ee. As for the
" modern-antinue " objection, this bos been dis-
cussed and fully answered in '' N. & Q." and in
The Spectator by an abler pen than mine. No
doubt S. can face the ordeal on Bennetts Hill
without fear, but " England holds a hundred sons
who are just as good as he." There are plenty of
*' gentlemen " in the United Kingdom who would
not find the proofs of their seize quartiers so very
difficulty much less the "four grand parents,
unless the Heralds' Collogo demands proofs such
as would not be required in the strictest judicial
investigation, where life and honour, to say
nothing of property, were in the balance.
Cywkm.
Porth-yr-Aur, Carnarvon.
" As Cyril a^d Nathan " : an Old Oxford
Epioram (4»»' S. vii. 321, 350.) — Several versions
of this epigram appeared in " N. & Q." 2°'* S. xi.
The best is, I think, at p. 20G. 1 gave this ver-
sion in my work, The Epiyrammatids, but placed
it amonpt anonymous epigrams, for I could find
no sufficient evidence that it was the production
of " Jack " Burton. It seems to have been the
common practice to ascribe unacknowledged Ox-
ford epigrams to that witty and eccentric lady.
Of the epigram on the deans, one of your corre-
spondents (2*"* S. xi. 233), who matriculated when
it was in circulation, says : —
" It was jocosely attriljutcd to tlio pon of Jack Burton,
but it cninc, I helitrvo, like many othor Imn mot* of that
dny, from a* set of invcti-rato i»un>ti'r3 in the common
rooms of diirorcnt colleges."
IT. P. I).
In regard to the epigram upon Doctors Nathan
Wetherell and Cyril Jackson, it may be interest-
ing to add that the late famous* Sir Charles
^Vetllerell was tlie third son of the former. 'J'ho
late Dr. Rowdon, Registrai* of the University of
Oxford, maternally a grandson of ])r. Wetherell,
used to say that it was Dr. AVetherell who first
remarked the talents and abilities of young Pliill-
potts (late Bishop of Exeter) on his continually
stopping at the Bell at Gloucest-jr in liis journeys
from (Jxford to his dennory at lI<Teford, Ph ill-
pott's fjithor tht'U being, as is well known, the
landlord of that inn. Dr. Kowdon used to give
the epigram as in " N. »fc I J." of April 22, but
vai'ying the fourth and iiflh lin'?s thus—
"Saj'S X.ithan to Cyril, * You certainly may,
But leave me only my little canal,
And you may lookaftor the i-ca.' "
Miss Rose Burton wa.s an extraordinary person,
a kind of Lady Mary Wortlcy Montagu in Ox-
ford of her day.
Any one wishing to find particulars of Dr.
Wetherell would do well to look at Sir Alexander
Croke's History of the Croke Family, 2 vols. 1823.
Many intereatmg facia about Dr. Cyril Jackson
are contained in Coxe*8 Eeminiscenees of Oxford,
Miss Burton is^ still well remembered there.
Edwabb Rowdov.
13, Little Stanhope Street.
Two errors (p. 321) should be corrected : —
** Says Nathan, * You may, but ob 1 never thall;
And leave vou to look for the sea* (see)."
F. C. P.
Beauchamp (1^ S. vii. 210, 342.)— I beg D. P.
to accept my thanks for calling my attention to a
clerical error (if it be not a misprint) which hid
escaped my notice. I did not mean to bUion
with three cross cros.?lets a coat which either bore
six, or was semt^e. The honest truth is that my
note was written in a great hurry — a state (W
things of which I will try not to allow the recur-
rence in writing to *' N. Sc Q." As respects the
Lisle coat, I must confess that I am myself among
the inexperienced readers to wht)m D. P. alludes,
for I did not know that the bearing was as&omed
only. I am obliged to him for the information.
llGRMExrnrDS.
Lancashire Timber IIalls (3'«* S, viL 76,
144, 248.) — Some time ago I nrndo inquiry re-
specting a series of etchings of old timber houses
in Lancashire published by a Liverpool firm. To
that query no reply was obtained. I am now
able to supply some items respecting this scarce
Lancashire book from a catalogue lately issued
by Mr. Henry Young. These etchings are there
described as " Views in Lancashire and Cheshire,
I of Old Halls and Castles, intended as illustrations
to tiic County History ; from pictures by >'. 0.
Philips." The wliole 'series consisted of twentv-
four engravings, folio, and are noted by iho book-
I seller as " very scarce,*' and *' proofs escesaivelj
1 rare.'* A smaller edition of the views wfts ata
I issued. Thev were ** published bv Mr. PhilipSf
of Chatham Street, Liverpool, }S22;' without any
accompanying letterpress. T. T. W.
Eleven Sniixixo Pieces op Charles L (4**
S. vii. 65, 148.)— The words of the will referred
to are found in the will of Dame Elizabeth Hil-
diard of Routh, in the county of York, proved on
January 17, 1039 :— '< Item to Thomas Suddehr
four eleven shilling pieces in a box."
Your correspond! en t of course does not mean
that angels were a coin introduced by CharieiL:
for the second Sir Christopher Ilildiard, in (Jaeen
Elizabeth's reign, leaves amongst under legatee*
to this same Elizabeth Ilildiard, the wife of hi*
nephew Christopher, " twenty ange//s " («V).
CniNA Maiha {4»»» S. vii. 73.)— This taste ii
much older than 1760. It was introduced into
England by Queen Mary in 1630, and speedflT
became fksnionable, as numberless allusions lo it
^KS.VII. Mat20,7L]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
443
IQ Pope's poetry and the SpeHator alone prove.
•* AUstrcM of liordelf thon^li tli inv fall/'a frag'ment
Irom Pope on everj oii , bclono^s to tbla
r,i.-i\ It Is cuHi.iij., tliiif ■} should stigma*
tia iiA *" a frivolous nnd in-
y^/j cnp. xi.), nnd still taoro
»«d L uU iiavtj writtcm —
*' nen am! iri^Tti'r,ils Mrcro not ashamed to
; »U iiuil tlri^oDfi ; and
! Lhiit u fine l»uly valaetl
; M < M (r.Ai. , T .|ul;.c aj much as slla vnlued
lirr 1 macU mord than bhe vtilued her hos^
ham<i ■ . t]>. xt.) —
wh«a we I'emomber the Premiyr'^ speech on
Wed«rwoad a few years ago, and the fine collec-
tioa of china tvhicb^ if report fipe*dkd true, he pos-
Pklagius.
Chjiems pon Aqitk (1*S 2^*, S'* S. pamm.) —
This curious chfirm, wlucli 13 copied from an old
iliiirT of 1 751 , gtiU preserves its traditional vitality.
In April 1871 it was recit^^d iu similar words to
• friend by a postb:>y near Spalding r —
•* IVhen J arij c.niij u«Mr PiUt*', He trembled Ukealcaft
I lllm if llu had the a^ie. Ho
liail the av:iie «or vfus be afraid ; and
,v.. •,j^ci 1. I.. Mii-.t worJd iu raiad shall never fear
iQUt or any t hilly; eKiu*'
T^ '^loy preaentod ray fnend with
fto re for a^^ue, which at all events
ts ij '-'''-ity: —
: off a look of v^ur hair, bun'
It u;i , . ^i* into your houio by anotheV
itpot tiiau (lint ihmugh irhieb you ciime/*
PEULOItrS.
, O&WTS (^^b S. vii. f>57. 353,)— With reference
ti ibo =tittcment that, although an ht^iresiii miirht
arma of her family into that of her
It? was incapable of "conferring the right
itj^ hwr father-a creat, &:c., it would
I . i>e tomb of the llev, John Richards,
Boct^ji ui Wvkf^ near Winchester, who died
^IiM^h 11, l<ttJS-i*, and was buried in the cloisters
I "' r Collej^e near the door, that such
-! the case, aa the cre^t on the tomb
i ' ' ' to hid wif^*3 family, viz.
I* r Cruoke ; hehavii];? mar-
n i - •; aa ii:iit«r and co-heir of -^ Crooke,
1 he hud two sona.
L .u Li* lletnid ami Geneahfji4, Part xxni.
Ilu^ust 1807, p. 443, will be found two pedigreea
Kv ^l W S Ellis, showing several iastancea of
!l 'iog their wives' create. C. R.
i
I ^Firixxai WoatiiiEs LiBSARr " (4**» S. vii.
P*^' ' ^ '^'Mi inadvertent readin;^ of ^' Auder-
^ ;rew«,** author of i\\^ Anatomic of
it^ WmU notice* of my 8enc^» ^u^-
> well to recoixl X^io mis-
^-^..L my eye eince issue of
l^aaghas, w., ^^^xsoterics'' for '^exotenes*'
(vol i* p* xxiv), and " precator '^ for " peccator ''
(vol. 2, p. xlv.), and the photo-chr6mo*lith erTor
of '* Seething ' for ** Scethrog-/* These will be
noted iji errata- list at end of vol. iv,, and any
others that may be discovered: but I trust you
will spare me a comer in ** N. & Q/' to note aboTe
onticipatively. Tile Editor.
MouEKrpro or Black-bdqed Wiuting-paper
(4*^ S. vii. 209, rj07, 378.) -^ From the recently
published interesting^ work by Edward Dunbar
Dunbar, of Lea Park, Forres, entitled Social Life
in Former 2Jay^, I capy a funeral letter, which was
edged with blaclc aa follows ; —
" For James Dunbar of lachbrok Hoaae,C«3tli»towari.
»*Jaimary .'ith, lGd3.
*' Sir» — I doe mtcad the fanerall of the CountwA of
Morray, mj moiher,opon Wedneadavt the 17th of JaDuary
iustAiitt trj whom 1 intreat your preaifuce, he eleven a
dock alt Dnrn«;»y, from theaice to her buriall place itt
D\'kr> ; and thU last Chrlatiau di^'- shall vcrrie inaeh
obleiilge, Sir» your assured to sei ve you,
•* Dou:<^E.''
J. Mb.
Black wax wna in use earlier than the time
given at the lost reference, 1 have a letter from
Xlari^aret Ligleby of Ripley Castle, dated Aug. 17,
1G82, sealed with black wax with the Savile arms j
and a receipt given by her sifter, Mary Savile,
dated July S, r«]07. "thia nifiy have reference to
the death of her father^ John Savile, E^. of
Methley.
Ite ufic^ however, does not appear to have been
universal, aa her brother and aiatera, who gave
similar receipts about the same time, seal with red
wax, C* FoRRKST, Sen.
John DrER(4»'* S, vii, 235, 353,)— Mr. Steprbh
Jackson eaya, "I know The Fleece well/' I
mt\y say, ^* I know the country well to which por-
tions of The Fleixe relate/* On pjijre 130, GU-
tillau*3 edition, you will find the following linea ;
'♦ iluffC Breadcn's atony summit onr^*» I oHirfbeJ
Aflor ft kidling : Dahiaii, wti .
WhM. viirioas views unnmn' i- ncath I
WtiOd^, towers, valea, deUs, tl , rcsat floodi j
And here and there between ttio »iitry rooki^,
The hruad fiat stra."
The Breidden is a hill stand Ing partly in Shrop-
shire and partly in Montgomeryshire, on the banks
of the Severn. ' I have been up it n dozen times,
and on the clearest of daya j but aa it lies between
fifty and sbcty miles from the ueareat coast, and
other ranges of hilla intervene, you will not wonder
whon I ttdl you that a sea- view is not amongst the
attractions of the Breidden. Byer left some spe-
cimens of hia artistic work in Slontgomeryphire,
notably a copy of Da Vinci's ^'hmi Supper,'*
whicli* formerly haiJ a place of honour in the old
church at Newtown, ^\ e can scarcely wonder that
The Fleece is not yety exlftmYNe?^^ ^^a^ \va^-^
days, when we land m '^ T\w& M^>3ccaft\3X'^ «s^ 'Caa
Mdl
444
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t4»kS.VJL
first page that ono of the subjects for poetry is '* Of
the Castration of Lambs " I Askkw Rqberts,
Oswestry.
Mr. Jacksoh wdmirea the "noble poetry" of
Gronffar HUL The following ftre the first six lines*
Whfit does Mr. Jackson think of ** Sileot Nymph,
"who Ue*^? And did he ever see a *^ neUaw lin-
net ^7
♦* Silent Jfyinph I with curious ey%
Who, the purple ©vi'ninii.^ He
On the mountiiia'a lonely vrtn^,
Bcvond the noisa of buay m«4i,
Pnlntiag fair the forin of things
While the jftUow linmet sings/"
**Pen of an AiTQFx'fl Wn?o'' (4*" S* vii, 233,
312,)— In The Tatter, No, 10.3, April l>5, 1710,
Ned Softly reads the following to Isaac Bjclccr-
staHo : —
** TO MIRA OH JfEn nr<:01IPARAnLE f OFMS.
** When drcseed in laurel wrenths you ahine,
And tune your soft melodious notea^
Tou seem a sister of the Nine,
Or rbcobus* self in petticoats
** I fancy when 3'our wng you sing
^ (Your soDg you sinj; with so much art),
Your fj^n was plucked from Cupid'a wiagi
For, ftb! it wounds mo like his dart/'
The poem is then discusaed lino by line. Ned
askS; *' What do you think of the next verse ? —
• Your pen was plucked rrt>m Cupid^s wing/ "
Isaac replies : " I think you have mode Cupid
a little goose."
I agree with Isaac, hut thick the eonceito more
fiuJierable in Ned's verses than in aoy of the
examples cited in " N. & Q." II. B. C,
U, a Dub.
Gkorob London (4*** S. vii. 235, 335.)— In
1707 George Loodon, Esq,, gave 10/. towards
building a schoolhouse in the parish of Kensing-
ton {Lysons* Middlesex, iv, 531).
Indenture, dated Fek 10, 1713, made between
AVilliam Talman, of the parish of St Anne^s West-
minster, Esq., and Richard Woodward, of Little
Ealing, co, Middlesex, Eaq, (executors of the will
of George London, late of the parish of St. Martin -
in-the-tlielda, co. Middlesex, GentOj of the one
part, and Samuel Lynne of the other part (Mid-
dUuxMe^n/, 1713, Xo. 183).
Possibly the burial of George London may be
entered in the registers of one of the above-named
pariBhes. Can any of your readers inforai me
whether Kelji^ccn, lirst wife of Kichard Wood-
ward (married about 1704), was a daughter of
George London ? T. D.
IjffntjsTRiEs OF ExoLi^D (4*** S. vii. 200, 289.)
Mr. J* R. M'Culloch, in Ms preface to vol i. of
Earli/ and Scarce TracU on Commerce , ^-c.^ re-^
prinied by the Jht^tical JBean&my Ciub and by Lord
Omntoiie, 1856-50 (p. riii,), remarks that Lewis
HoberLs' tract, rA<' rrcri«wif 'Ucou-
tains the earliest notice of M >jit of
cotton manufacture. I find, huwcvtr, .\binchc«t^
cnttous already mentioned in a pamphlet pitV-
lished as early as 1580, namely, in A PolUiqm
Plott for the ftonoitr of the Prince f the ymait ftcfi
of the puUiq^te ntate^^'c* by Rpb. Hitchcock, *
don^ 1580. On p. 2da ne says : —
*' At Rone in Fraance, which id ths ch«lc«t tM
solde our Enj^lish wares, as Welcbe 4 HaocfiMter
ton5, Kurtherno Caeseis, White*, Leode, it Ttaoa."
I may add that the former of tbo two
L*#wi9 Roberts, in his Map of Commerce^ Lands?
1G38 (p. 231), where he shortly speaks of Mia-
cheater, does not mention its cotton miiiittfictai&
He says : —
** Lrtncoshire , . . wherein Blaochester, an old Uvi*
inriched by the industry of the iahabitaat^^ bydoib«(
Uaneu & woollen/'
Ad, Bctf.
Munich, Gcrmaay.
Saint WuLFRvif (4'*' S. vii. Il52, 900, 331)-
In A note at p. 23 of Tumor's CoUediom for l4r
Jiistcn/ of the 7 own and ^Soke of Cfranihamf 4tA,
ISOO, there is a reference to the '^MSa la Hi
Cottonian Library^ Otho B, 8. Vita S. WulM
Epiflcopi,*^ Mr. Tumor, evidently desirous to iilo*
tiry SL Wulfran the bishop, said in the book d
j Peterborough (which perhaps was Lelaod^s w-
thority for his statement) to have been burieil il
Grantham, was referred by the Kev. J. Bna^,
Sec. Soc. Antiquaries, to " a very scarce hook ea-
tilled Q€Ualogm Sanctorum et Gextorum eonm^
folio 1513, as containing some account of ** Vol-
pbranius Senonends Episcopiis.'* A* O. V. P. vm
incline to ascertain if the tinst above relates In
other than the Archbishop of Sent* W. K E
English Descext of Daniel O'Cotj xkll (i^^ ^
iii. 75; vii. 242, 349.) — Bilbo, quoting from :
guson, says that six persons of the mkuia -
Konall are gtveu in Landadinah^h, Fergnaon
statua that " one of these was certamlr from \s**
land '* ! Air IfiiSBiiis*
Bows ANt> CuR-RtETs {4**» S. vl. 5(?8; vii '""
220, 330.)— I beg to say in nftswer to T. K. i
the last of the above references) that I was quji«
aware of the diflerent opinions that hunt MV
held as to the meaning of the difficult mrt
AhriH.h in Gen. xli* 43, The Authorised V«ni3S
has '*bow the knee**; the Vu^j^r^v '• .»» ivnin*
coram eo genuflecterent" (the S
the word altogether) ; Alexander G- ._ _■- L'-v
translation gives tne word Abrtch untmnslatid,
with *'bow the knee" in brackets; and tbtf^
are very ancient authorities for the coittsnoii im*
dering. Those who are interested in the 8o)j|tci
may see in Mr* Barrett's Syno/m^ of Critieitmt
(i/l05) a suocinct account of what has besa
written upon it.
'
J
aTB, Mat 20/71.1
NOTES AND QUERIES.
445
■Lquestion naked in '* N. & Q/' wna for tlie
^ffumiton of the curtsey ; and until n gene-
Tlccepted correction of the proa«nt yersioti
. anpt^ar 1 think, with all deference to T» K. T.,
tne refew*nce to Gen, xlL 43 ^* euita my pnr-
,** In the words' of Bishop Patrick upon the
^: —
Jiil«8S we ttnderstnod the old Ef^vptinn kitjrnng^,
^^* htd fts good rest ia the Hebrew deriiTAtbn us
HUMTf acooviUjig to our owa translation.''
^^ E. V.
^ ZoDi.vc (4'* S. viL 344.) — The IltndnB
i to have been the earliest to give a character
ie save ml planets. The E;;yptiana and Bii-
nlans copiea from them, The crossea in the
la characters are the Buffdhid crosses, which
ioabt' Tsferred to the^ equinox and the suu
Hog the same. The .Several planeta have all
poetiaed by the Greeks. But let T. F. read
Bcooimts of thtjSQ raattera in H. Jetiainga's
^rtuians, their Rites and MyUeries.
PZiDETEX.
|1f^tTT& Its SpmiT," ETC. (4*** B, vii. 3G5.)
lines are from Professor John Wilson's
M entitled •* The Eveniog Cloud." D. B.
ILImU) op Laiit Ferrers (4"' 8. vii. 200^ .334.)
ve a MS. copy uf this ballad. It was com-
ijl believe, by Sir Thomas Lawrence^ P.R.A.,
Ranted for the benefit of a distressed person.
J. E. B.
»T» (4*"' S. vii. SGIO — The clergyman was
^Ated at least eigrhty years ago, in the tale
Tlie Parson-Dealer *' : —
** Unluckily but ono was in the Btnll,
I And he the very bwt of all.
I W bat should* btj done ?
) ^ to the prlfest he ij:o€5 snd hcf^s
L That he would visit the ©Id crone."
f Plndar*s Worfu^ xo\. ill, p. 14 L Dublin, 1702.
I FitzaopKiNS,
ck Oub.
ov^R Castlb (4^** S, vii. 364,)— I cannot re-
i8 regards Dover Castle, but I well remember
©y first going- to London, in that very.year,
% and visiting the docks, beinj^' ehown at a
mce a pibbet with two or three men (pirates
Rreie told) dangling underneath. P, X. L.
I,4CARI> (4*»* S, vii. 380.)— Thia word is va-
■ly written, — jihckankj placard , or plncM,
ignifiea the lower part, or extension of the
iacher ; and appears to derive it^ name from
\g a piece of showy embroidery^ like a phimef
late of metal. See the dictionaries of Bailey
A^ F.aH.
flp^iK OP Silver Sei'* (4»'» S. vii. 3iX).)—
■k Lord Salisbury referred i\y this expression
^nng been tised by Culunel Chesney some
weeks before in a military lecture, but I am
anxtotis to learn if this phrase, often quoted since,
was ori^oal, or a quo^imon by Colonel Chesnev*
A. S.
Epithets of the Months (4'*" S, vii. 343, 4B>.)
xVuother version of the February proverb, which
I have heard in London^ and i think also in
Essex, is —
" February fill-diteli,
Bkck \}t white, don't care which-**
James Britten,
The New Moojt and the Maids (!■* S. iv. 00.)
Allusion is made to a Deronahire custom, which
may be found, I believe, all over Englaud, of a
young girl addresain<y the crescent moon wlien
she Bees it for the lirst time after Midflumraer.
Can wo trace the superstition in those lines of the
Carmen Sfculare f — •
** Siderum retina hicorni-i, audi
Luna, pui-llaa."
P.
Barslenip StafFordehire,
BmiFF OR BuRF (4^»* 8. vii. 282, 370.)— Atten-
tion hnvinpi' been drawn to this word, the foUowing
quotation from the opening of Hartshome's Sahpia
Antiqim may perhaps posses* aome interest, what-
ever may be thought of the proposed deriva-
tion : —
** Abdon Burf \a the moat elevated of those three Shrop-
shire BDOun tains which are ujiually temied the Broira
Clee Hill-s or the Clee llills^ They are rertpectively
OAlIed Abdon Burf^ or the .Barf, the Clee Burf, and tlie
Titterstone- The present one deriv"C3 iu dii^tm^ttidhin^
appellative of Abdon from having that little vill«ige at
ita foot. It la diflicult to say how the name of Btirf or
Barf, nB the lower orders call it, ori^nated. I am in-
clined to think that it was acquired in coDfiequenee of
the viflt wall of Atones which snrroundfl its summit, in
the same way as the Clee Burf takes iu title from the
C- Brit. Buat thytiW endosuro. J3t/r, in 0. Brit. Ir* Com. atid
Gael, eigrnifles a auuimit or top, but the fornier derivation
seems the better, as applying: tuoro closely to the extra*
ordinary remains which are fouad opon thiji eminence."
And in a note the author adds ; —
** There ure two fortresses of the Anglo-Saxon period ;
one near Ba»church, the other just on the outside of
ShTopahlre, ncjir Mere, called the Berth, haply in a]hi)*ion
to their bt'ing enclosed. An eminence two miles south of
Stourport is called the Burf. Burva Bank, a large en-
campment close to Knill, eo. Radn. Birth Hill, east of
Gadbury Banks in Gloucestershire "
T. W. Webb.
roTWT DB Vice (4"' S. vii. 255, S80.)-It is
desirable to note that Malvolio does not biv
** point do Tice," but *^ point devi?e.'^ {Twelfth
Nitjht, II. V, 145.) 8o also in the other two pas-
saj^es where the phrase is used by Shalcespeare
{Loves Lnhotir*9 Lost^ v. i. 16, and As you Like It,
in. ii. 354) we have not *'de vice " but ** devise/'
or ** device." According to Wedgwood, the full
phrase, ** a point devise/' means in the conditiou of
ideal excellence. *' Point" = condition, as in *' en
448
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Ll^'S.TII. iUrJOrTi
bon point" *' Devise'* b ffftm Freiicli rtcvisfr^ to
imagine, to plmi, Wedg^wood quotes —
*♦ Vn noble chateifti h devise,"
and from Cbaucer {Momaunt of Hos^^ 830) —
*• With lymea wrongtit at poynt dovys.'^
" The MirsBs' Belioitt," ed. 1754 (4**" S. vii.
336.) — I regret to Bay that the reference to
Lowndes does not furnish an aiiswt^r t« mj query,
I think the Editor has been misled by the simi-
larity between the title of the work which I
pofl§esa and that mentioned bj Lowndes. My
copy of The Mmes* TJeHght (an octavo Tolunie»
witli engraved frontij^piecei pp. 32S) was ** printed »
publishedf and »old oy John Sadler, in Hwrin^-
ton Street, Liverpool, 1704,'* Th© work men-
tioned by Lowndoa was publiftbed in London in
1752.
The octavo copy of the edition of 1766 (entitled
Apollo's Cabinrt: or the Mtasa* Deliffht)^ when
exliibiteil at the January meeting of the IHstoric
Society of Lancashire and Cheshire, wag stated to
be '*oue of the very few t^xtant/* With the ex-
ception of the addition to the title this work is, I
preatime, the 5am o aa that published in 1 754 ; and
iny query is, la the edition of 17o4 also scarce ?
Ai my copy is imperfect, I shall be ^lad ako to
know'whero I can consult a complete copv.
T. McGrath.
Cornell Famtlt (4** S. vii. 343.)— deferring
to the queries rei?pecting th© Cornells or Cornalls,
it ia found that an omission occurs in the address
to which replies should be sent Attention is,
therefore, again called to the queries; and replies
sent to Rev. R. C, 34, rortland Square, Bristol,
will be thankfully received.
The Twelve Claimaijts of the Crtowjr of
ScoTLAiTD t/ftnp. Edward L (4*'' S. vii. 303,) —
C. B, C. wUl Hnd, in Ilapin^s fftWorr/ of Emjlandf
a genealogical table of the twelve 8eots com-
petitors. CnABLES F. S. W ARREST, M..\.
Over Yioifago, St. Iv(p», Hirnt*.
" SxROHwrrnvE " (4^" S. vii. 206.)— We have an
exact equivalent to this German word (t^ven by
Hermank IvrKDT in his charming ** N'oteleti*'*) in
'* grass- widow." James Britten .
Glatton {4*'> S. vii. 304.)— The word Olaiton
is a North-coutitry woitl for Welsh flannel. It is
flo given in Coles* Enf/liAh Dictionary, edition of
1685; and in Kersey ^s Dictionm^j^ edition of 1715.
As a name, it occurs as a parish in the county of
ITyntingdon. C. Qoi.]>ni&.
Pflddingion.
This name may be compounded of A.~S. thln^
col lis, or tiin^ septum, and glidaf milvusj glfi'd^
amcenus; Sw. and G. glatt, hevis, or A.-S. fjladij
amnia, livulua ; or it may be t, y, Latton, Latham,
Lctton, Litton, Lutton, Clutton ; perhaps etymo-
logically connected -with Ludhara, Lsdbroke, Lq
ford, Lydford; and with Glnd^n^h ml* Pru«
Glatt, ft river and town of I! ' 'Ifllt, i
fiver of Switzerland; fi'oui hd =
ftqua. IL S, UitA^arocK.
Ciriiy*9 fan,
'^ It DOE^ !coT KKovr, POOR Fool,*' etc; J
viL 365.) — Will be found in a poem by ]
ton, entitled The Dead Queen.
T. IL TDnno
Cumhcrlaod.
**When PHTLOsormtRS have DOXE
Worst,'* etc. (4^* S, vii, 30^)— There was
upon a time a clever finaicier, the not
Ouvrard, who was not of that ^
not the good fortune to please tlm
the firjjt Napoleon, to whom th^
army-contractors were obnoxious,
day taken to. task by him, said : *
en ten dons pas, sire, parce <^ue V.
deux ©t deux doivent n^ce^eaircm -
quatre, et moi ie suis d*un avis c
Ouvrard bad a fertile imrJi'in r , , uc -
celebrated political writer of i-.^^ pr. n' daf*!^
had " uue id^ par jour." lliiu^' oi;e. l*ci((ilo|i
in the fort of Viucennes by order of N^tolsoa,
and, by way of making the durAnce-vilo laau
severely felt, not being allowed either to tvii if
write, he got the gaoler to puichaae for hint
lai'iJ-o number of pins, which, after counting tbfB,
he threw on the ground in the dark ; and ftv-^^T??
down, he set to work to pick them up
aatiatied until he had found them a
began again. Thia he related to me hlutik^I/.
P. A.L
"WhE^ ItALIE DOTH PoTi^OX WA5T/* nc
(4»^ S. vii. 3('m'j.)— E. B. E. will tiiic! the lirtf*? •^'^
wants in a singular book, the tit!
I copy. They are set forth in P>cj;
the former 1 give, for she has the Utic;, ^ tWj
appear in my copy of the work : —
•* Quand Italie *era ?aii« potson,
Anf^lftf^rrc nan* trahtson,
Kt lii Friincc ^aim guerre,
Lors BCfa le niotidc s«tis tcrre.**
I was reading the book not long sloeWf cad At
oration in regard to France is well worth atltt^
tion. It quotes Montaigne, who says: ^^lUttB
trois Francois aux dessert do Lybie, ils ns dCTMi
ensemble sans 80 harceler et '^'tM L'nftifnif.*
Also Gaspar Coligni wrote in a '
Charles IX. : '* It ia given by uatur
that if they cannot find an enemy .
will make one at homo,*' Surely ti;
be little changed now for tbe better.
'• A German Diet, or the Balljirje'* nf HnirrvT
the Power and WeaWnfft*, Obry
niid Vices Plonty and VVnut, A
AtiUqaitvand Moderne.s of all iv., ..,,....- .,uj
Christeadom arc Impartially pouEcd» at a dtkUaoi
;if \0
4*S.VILSUif20,'71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
lion of Som Genoaa Princes, in Sundrv Elaborat
OralionB, Pro and Con- Mado fit for tho MeridtAO of
EaglAnd. Er James Howell, Esq. ' Sfnu'co, nou Seg-
nfiaeou* London : Printed for Uuniphrey Moieley, and
■re ta bo sold at bis 8bop at tbe Princes Amies* in St*
P*iili Charch Yard, 1653.''
So, Ctevelaad Square^ Hyde ParL
**TirE MOBE I XKIRN TflE LESS I THINK I
MOW" (4^ S. vii. 3t)5.)— Was not tbe first
author of this sentence the allwise Socrates, wbo^
ia answer to some Sophists who pretended to
know eyerything^, said : *' As for me, all I linow ia
that I know notlxbg *' Y P. A. L.
CnBviaAUKCB ob Ciievisancb (4'»» S. via. 343.)
The derivation ehemrt to finish, to achieve, suffi-
ciently shows ita literal meaning and that in which
Lord LyttoD uses it. I am sure that 1 have aeen
it thus used by Spenaer^io 27ie Facrt/ Qttitjij but
cannot just now find tho passaji^G or passapjes
where it occurs. I am, however, corroborated by
Webater, who jjives ** achievement" as the pri-
mary signification, and refers to Spens^jr, The
word \& certainly to be met with in The Faery
Queen , expressing knightly valour. D. B.
HE3nii Masers de la Tudb (4*^ S. vi. 40^ 117,
24S, 3490—1 had the pleasure of comriuinicating
to ** N. & Q/' (p. 349) some particulars relating
to Heim Mosera de U Tude ; mv note including
A pnssage from Mercier's Nciv Picture of Fari-Sf
L<>ndo0 edition of 1800, to the effect that
Ibe bronze hand belonging to the statuo of
Ijouid XV*, erected on the place named after that
mooarch (and subsequently ^* De la Concorde"),
'was in the possession of I^tude.
Quite recently, on turning over the pages of
ToL iii. No, 5, of Tfi£ Pamphleteer^ prmted by
A- X Vftlpy at London in 1814| I came across —
** The Life of Henri Makers de Latude, who -was im-
prijcned Thirty 'five years. To which is added aomc Ac-
couat of the Bastiht/ [never publbbed in this country]*"
And on perusing the pamphlet thus desjrrnated,
I found it to be a pr^tin taken from tho French
publication of 17D3, mentioned aa "now very
scarce-*'
llie pamphlet, evidently written by some one
who had a personal knowledge of the famed
prisoner, concludes thus : —
** \^li«n I saw L«tade in ISO! , he waa seventy >six
vcars old, atrong and active for hia ag«, lie hftd licTore
niiTi on a tabJe all bia tool« and tnuaical ioatrttments, and
middle of them the hand of the bronze statue of
XV., vibich stood in tbe Place de la Coacorde, and
I.'' vplftined them, and told the story of hiis wonderful
tr i ij»e from tbe Baittille, ta a spirited and IntereBtlng
This pa95age is confirmatxjry of the correctneBs
of Mercitr*8 announcement of the destiny of tho
bronze hand. Tbe **tool^fl'* mentioned above I
afiaujuo to bo those which Latudo and his corn-
panioOy D'AI^igre, made for use in working theii
way out of bondage : the musical instruments, no
doubt, **a fiageolet which" Latude *'had con-
trived to make, and which helped to lighten many
a wenry hour" (gee pamphlet under notice) \ as I
find therein noted that —
" tbe rope-larlder and the thing* tliey were compelled to
leave were prefterved ia the Archives of the Bastille, and
were presented to Latudei in tho year 1789, tbe day after
that fortress was taken by the people.*'
CEBSCEirT.
Savanaab, l^.S.
AYRES, FrEBE, A5D FfilARj SuRNAME'! (4"* 8.
vii. 38<1,) — Might I suggest to your correspondent
Sp. the N'orse personal names Ari (a servant) and
Fi'cyr (the name of the deity symboIiKing the
sun), as aflbrding a more pn^babl© explanation of
the origin of these surnames ? The former would
dso account for the name Eyre. It seems pro-
bably that the form Ayres may have been derived
from a place-name, perhaps originally used ellip-
tically in the possessive case. This is what Fer-
guson suggests in regard to Scaudinavian proper
names supplemented with the tetter ». Why
should we unite monks in holy wedlock in order
to produce spurious descendants ?
J. C. ROOEK.
^tjfrelliiueoutf.
NOTES ON BOOKS. ETC,
A Life of Anthony Ashley Cooper^ First Earl of
Sha/ltsltitrv, 1C21-*16S3. By W, D. Cbriatia, M.A..
fonnerly Iter Majesty's Minister to the Argentine Con-
federation and to DroziL In Two VoJumti. (Mac-
niillan.)
In a time like the present, so well described in Can*
alag's well-known couplet, which ^ —
" finds with keen, diacnminntiag sight.
Black's not so black, nor white ao very white,** —
it is not to be wondered at that endeavours should be made
to do justice to one to whom 5cant justice has hitherto
been awarded, Anthony Ashley Cooper, first Earl of
Shaftesbury, That Air. Cbri«Ue has succeeded in his
attempt is not matter of surprise, seeing that be came to
tbe work with the advantaf^esof a poHtieal, parliamentary,
and diplomiitlc training, a familiaf acquaintance with the
history of tbe times during which Shaftesbury played hb
fitful part, and has bestowed infinite time and pains in
turning to full account the ample materials for bi^ work
which have been placed at his disposal. So long ago aa
1859, Mr. Christie published the first volume of a similar
work, which brought down Shaftesbury's Life to the
liesto ration, foundftJ chiefly on the papera preserved at
St.Gil&5'fj, to which tbe present earl had ^v^en him acco««.
Instead, however, of completing that work, Mr, Christie
bos thou;j;ht it advisable to prepare a c^tunected bio-
graphy of his bero-*foanded on the various coUecliopa
which he has had the opportunity of I'onsultiu;^. Amotijr
ihese, lu addition to the Shallc^lmry Papers fdrcady uieu-
tioned, are the Locke Papers ia tbe po.*ie.ssiun of ihc Earl
of Lovelace ; tbe Papera of Mr. Thynne, aftenfardi Lord
Weyinnuth, with whom Shaftesbury was nearly con-
nected by marriaj:re, and which are in tho posAcrtsion of
the Marnucas of Bath ; ond, Ustly, the Arehivca of the
French Foreign Office and the documents prcMrved itt
I
448
NOTES AND QUERIES. [4*8.ru.iUTHTt
our Stiit« Paper Office It eia SMTcely then be matter of
wonder thatt with aoch original aaurcxa of inrormatioUt
sod fluch a hero as Shafteabarj — of whom Charles IL ftaid
that he knew more law than any of his judges, and inorf
divinity than any of his bishops — and cnnwderiuf; huw
SrominentJy h»» fiVurerl m the great drama of hU time —
[r< Chn»tie should have produced a book which will
pot only be read with pleasure and intere.'itat the present
moment, but bida fair to take a permanent plact: in every
hifttorical library.
Th* Life of Sir Walter ScotU Bart Ahrtdged fri>m the
larger ^Vorh by J, G, Lockhurt With a prrfattfrv
iJtier h^ James R. Hope Scott, Q.C. (A. & C. litackO
Th w new edition of Lo^ckhart*» own abridgment of hi*
delightful biograpbv of bifl great father indaw— a work
liitherto much leas Itnown than it dt'servef to be— is pre-
ccdt'd by a praceful and touchiiiLf letter to Mr. Glad-
stone, who, writing to Mr» Hope ScoU in 18GJ^, jtpeaks of
the grent (]e]{glrt,and under what fa&eination he had been
read in;; the larger work, and ex presided a wish to 9e« Hn
flbridgmctit of it published* We trust thia new edition
will Mieet with the circulation it deserves : for we know
no book whieh a father, anxious to develop an honeat and
manly character in a hou, could put into his handa with
better hopes of succeaa^
The Elemmit of Fifckoloffy on the PnntlpUtt o/Beneke.
Edited and illuMt rated in a nimple and popular manner
By Dr. G. liaue, IVofejisor in the Medical College*
rhiladelphia. Fourth JCdilion. Ctmyidcrabty altei^^
impmttd^ and enlarged hjf Johnnn Gottlieb Dressier,
late Hector in the Normar School at Bautzen. Tratt*-
iu ted from the German. (Purker*)
Tl;e tranfelutnr of this work finding bimwlf suddenly
in want of a Manual of Pj!ivcIu»Io;;v, whieh should be at
imce aystemallc, ititellifjiblo, hntf, platiiiiiLle, and abffve
uU things ««uj3ri:e?tive, and finding no Englisli treatise
which fulrllled all these conilitionH, selected the Lehrbuch
der Fst^rhohxfie of JJr, lienekc fur tran^btioo.; but even-
tiJoHy ftdt>|iled the compendium of that author's theory
by Kaue ami Dresden The traur^lator data not tdentiA'
l^lm»elf with all Benekc'a views, but points out in his
Introduction the ingenuity with which BeneUe applied
it to the elueidution of Logic, Mctni>liysic.«, Ethics, Law,
PoiiticSf Mental Disease, and Education.
TttB Rkv. El>vl^vul^\VIl.Tox»— It was with ileep regret
that we saw in Tht Gmsrdian the aritHjunc^'niont of the
death of the Rev. Edward Wiltim of West Lavio^ton.
Mr, Wilton was o^peeially <pmlified to write on ail ^-
nealogical and heraldic quc-stiun??. wa^ n frequent eonlri-
Vator to our column?, and an intcn^tin/tc pnppr from hi.i
pen on the Swan Song of Parson Avrry will l>e found in
oar [tresent number (anti\ p, 433)» ily Mit. Wh.tons
^eath, which took plaoo on the 4th of tliid month, Wilt-
shire baa Ruatained a real loas.
TnK UNrvEttsiTT tiF Strasburo.— Under the autho-
rity of Baron von Ktlhlwetter, civil i^ov^nioT of Alaace, a
committee, cnnsiBting of Lord Lylton, ilr. Hepworth
Di^on, and oihera, lia^ been formed in LomJon to collect
and forward such offorings for the librarv of the L'niver-
aity of StraAhurg a* their literary and scientific brethren
may be pleaded to make. All books of a suitable sort
will be accepted. Authors are invited to preaent copies
of their work*, and publkherR aeleet ions from their li.sta.
Report-M of learned bodies, reprints of publishing iocietiea,
and dupUcjitcs from old librarica, will be weicome. Par-
cels should be sent, and communication* addreaaedi to
Mr, Nicholas TrUboer» €0^ Paternoster Row.
Tiiti Phiu^looical Societty,— Pn>feiiitor Goldstiieker
Jfl named as the new President of this f<»cicty.
A ri.vsTcti tkfit of the Tablet of Canopua. «flh cW
trilingual version in Hieroglyph*. Greek, and UrnMk,
has arrived at the BHtiab Uoaeum. It hai t>ea ^
sen ted by the Khedive.
Mr. Jamics Grant, Lite editor of the Mor^iyf
tiier, has nearly completed his new Hi^torr of t1_
paper Pree«i, The chapter upon tho Marnit^ i^rw....^
will be fuH of cariooa revelations.
Mr. Andrew Andrkws, author of '•T*^'' ti.,*,rr ./
British Joumallim,*' i^ ab4>ut to publiAh :
paper Presw a translation of **Histoirc <W
Au^leterre et aujc Etat^Unts; pnr Caches ^aCUu^u/,
Ancien J^odacteuren Chef du OoHititmtvjMKeL"
TtiRTriAMK.4 EitnANKMEXT.— Mr, W,IL Sinrtk5tr.
will sliortly brin;^ forward hU motion on tiie wUnX vt
pre^ervini; certain land, reclaimed from ihe nwr «
Whitebait as pleamre-groundf. It is prektly l« lia 4li<
sired that the member tor We^tmiDster may be*tiippaita<
as la«t year, by a majority of the IIoiia« of f*ii«ia—
and to such an'cxtentas to prevent all id«A df 9»jtt^
promise whi<:h would sacrifice the interasU of ibs rii!Jk.
SOCIKTT OF ANTiQOARlKS.^TlierC it r
in the rooms of the societv a larjjc collet
mcnta of the to-culled PaWlithic A^^n.
the fiubject of interesting^ comments hy ^i'
Mr. Francks at the meeting on Thursday cvru.i.^'.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PTTRCttASE.
* ParHcnUn nnd Trice, kc, of ili« {;>Uuirinr book* W bt <ni#a
(h* g«ntlnn«ii tr|- whom thcjr luw rc<tuire«l, whom s
AttCII.IiOLO'^rA.
Vol, TXTX.
Wills am
Aococjfm i
BOWK"! Th.
DCUl: '
Dfj
IXJI
Toj* liKUL-iluuu or Jons BtraxAOLr.
rcTixu ran Rkbbixios qw IMS.
icitAnp Baisu,
fioiitti to Corrrj^potitrrnU.
Milton a *'Co5lfS/* — We have been remindr^iljd (V*
respondent that the omitted pemoffe from Cdmai JUl ihm^
appeared in ^ M, & f^" (4«»» S. iL'245), wtk aOiwAw^
Minn by Lord Lyttelton*
Sue JojtK Ma^?;*s DEscEWiiAirrs.^ — The ^Mvyi^
peared at p. 365, and a rep/y at p. 420 of the prreemiw^
lume^
Eautft wat.ks njj Eahtii.— Quis h r*ftrrtd *n m
3'^ S. iv. 112, 1 72 J viii, OS. for informotw% rtw^
this inecription at Melrote and if tup^t^ttdauXkm^ InStai
Bdtinye.
E. l;. teiUptd a very fall titt of HamM*$ p%Mmtimt^
Biditt'g fditiim of Lowndes,
W. A. B. C.^Dr. Ginthvr^'i work on The MaAi*
Stone is pHbtished bg I.,onymanM^ A nrv tdlHtm nv**
believe^ nearly re^dy*
JAYnrJl received.
**TuK SiniLifta or PAiUfAssUB** Coml^, p. Mtntf
William Woty : tef ^* N. & Q.** i* S. U, 17**, 4'H.
n, \\% Bixx« (WoTi'Tster).— rAr autk,,rthip tf Uf
tatirical fttinMly Eikun Bastlike Deutera, |i$5^« v^» <»
quired ajhr unstiecessfmlly in " X. ^ Q,** S^a §. iv. ilU.
4»*s,vaMAYaf7.7io
NOTES AND QUERIES.
449
L0in>02r, SATURDA F. MAT $7, ISIl.
CONTEXTS.— N* 178.
3J0TE3 : — B«lic& hod LaiUin of Bur ni lately dlwoTered
449 — Luu^ bj Sir John Bargojne, 461 — Mvt Queon of
of Soot*, ±c.. lb. ^ Hcfeditory GetiliUL /ft. — ^ Tho Gaten
Ajar" — A Tj|W|cr»phJo«J Otiditj — Sinmr — A Gbost
Busty ^ Juniui, 432.
QUBBIB8 ( » Fr»ucis and Janiui, 453 — dilld bom on tbo
AoxsivcrMi? of iU PaxenU* Weddinjc-dAV »- Dore — Drum :
Ml Bv«iiin^ Party — *' Every bod/i Biisine«ii" — "Tho
tntfnl Porcupine " — Vad» dmiratar " Gladti *' ? ^ Hoind
Ano« — Sir Williftm Jones's Alca-lc Odw —Sir Robert
KitligTw : Btirlamachl — Lincolnshire t Driiikliijr Song *-
aer* c. R. 'Uturin — Minifttur« Painter, t^mn. Otaurlet I.
— Ikiok of X^poloon — Ofid* " Jdctani/' xiil.
2 lior" — Sir s^tephen Ptootor — Quotation
vp tti«h Guard of FrADOe^ Pmumei in Sbellt^y
— Sonnet Queriea — '* The Thluidm "— Topofrapiv —
* Tbe Worrd'a Judgnvent," 4Sa,
BBFLTBS ; — Onrman StytDologiaa Bictlonirleg. 4fl6 — Ex*
trmordinary T/Cfcnd from Oainsbunirb^ 457 — The LHt^r of
•* 8X " fiplmmod^ 469— Blink rw-jw Wink, 4ao — British
lk;jthe-Arm(Hl Chariots. iSi) *- Tho Completion of St,
FaalX 4C0 — The Bookworm, 4r>i — Scripsils or Christmas
Pfcoea — Sjdncy Qmlolphin — WortK?*t«r Arms—" Baron "
Nicholscin: John Dalrymple — " HcArt of Heart W ** —
" Li|?bt of LiKht^ " — " Th»j Wind has a Lnnpuagt', Ac.—
Shecrwon— Trtvtiri* " Grvtc HtTball " — M* rnrtHat Vf^Tsei
oo tbe NittubfJT of Df^iiiu the Moutbji- TSr ' " ' * ^nn%
iuEoglaDd— Tbe Phduiii Throaet Byron- ' ^i-
lliaation — Roieraary used at Funcrmla — G is
— B«oket'i Uurderort »Tbo School mas L<r inriiui in
Biifllordahiro — Bishop Mordocai Cary— Why dowa uewly
bom Child en-? — feir John Powell — Samplera — Two
BMMgn in *' Timon of Athena**' Ac^ 408
ICoiea oo Booki, Ac.
Jl0tRf.
RELICS AXD LKrrERS OF BURN'S LATELY
DISCOVERED.
Mr. M*Dfiwall, the author of tbe inteTeating
Tolume entitled Bunu in Dumfriesshire^ Bas lately
discovered fi relic of Burns in addition to tho many
others that he enumerates in hia work. It may
he worth while to rt*cord in " N. & Q.'* hia stata-
meBt, which ia as follows : —
"An who are fumiliiu- Tvith tbe biography of Robert
Burns know that when nt IiUlialaud be usea to get Kiraty
Flint of Closcbura to ling over bia son^ in order thnt
lie might test them by her rich Toioo and good nmaicjil
taste. It u well known, too» that the bard entertained a
lilgfai reape^t for Kirsty ; but we were not awaro till latelv
Uiat he bad, in evidence of thb feeling* presented her with
tlie copy of Youndt Ni^hi Thmtghu^ which he often pon-
dered over, and from which he repeatedly qnot^ in his
^DfTttpondence. Thia volume he gave to Mra^ Flint,
with the remark: *Tak that^ Kirsty-, I hae got more
MDtimentalism from that book than irom any work o'
Hie kind I ever read.* Kintj^ as may be well conceived,
ireaanred tbe volume^ and when at mie time aaked to di«-
poee of it, dedand solemnly, * I wad jost as sane amaist
pairt wi' the Bible iteei', as wP tbe benk gfion to me too
o' hia ain ban' by Mr, Bnma." But to a neighbour who
knew her wetl^ and paid much attention to hifr in her
old age, Mr. John Col tart, »he lent the volume in 18:iK,
with the ajflorance that at her death it was to become his
jftvpaty, Mrs. FUnt dying a few months aAerwarda, it
icnuined idth Mr. Coltart, who left it with ni a few
40^ hack, with a request that we would, in bis name^
' it to the OoasTvatory (of Damfriea). Whea
sniUibly inscribed it ^-ill be there deposited among other
prized relics of the national hard. On the inside of one
ijf the boardJi is written, not by Bums, bat probably by
Kirsty herself, the words : * God give me grace on 'it to
read, and not only for to read, but trnley for to under-
stand, and always learn to be at God's command/ Tho
book is 18mo si2e, plainly bound in sheepskin, and bears
date Glasgow, 176i."
The following letter of Buma U given in the
Glasffuw Herald by Mr. Waddell ; and aa it does
not appear to have hitherto been published, and
may eaaily be lost sight of if reootded only in a
daily paper, you may perhaps allow U to be em-
balmed m your pages : —
" Sanqohar, 26th November, 1788.
** Sir,— I write you this and tbe enclosed literally en
poMmnt^ far I am just baiting on my way to Ayrshire. 1
have Phihj*ophy or Prirje enough to support rae with
unwoumh'd inditTuronco nfjaiust the neglect of my mere
didi fiup'riors, the merely rank and Jlle of Noblesse and
Gentry, nay even to keep my vanity quite sober under
the larding of their oompliments; but from those who are
eqoally distmgubhed by their Rank and Charftoier —
those who bear the true elegant Imnrasaions of the fireat
Creator on the richeit materials, their little notices and
attentions arc to me amongst the first of earthly enjoy-
m«'nt^, Thn honor 3*ott did my fugitivo pieces in request-
in ' ' Ml is 50 h if:h ly tiatteriiuf to my feelinga
I rn, that I could not les^ even this half
'■[I rawliog oft for yon the enclosed aa a
small but honest testimony how truly and gratefully I
have the honor U* bey Sir,
•* Your deeplv obliged humble Serrant*
" RoBT. BtJrotf;*'
Mr. Wnddell teUa us that—
** the original of the document is in the po»ession of Mr.
James Gralura, MuunC Vernon Cottage, Carluke — a most
enthusiastic onttqaary of fully foursoore — who has very
obligingly communicated a copy to me. From 9utMequenl
iDquiries, I learn that it came into Mr. Graham's hands
from thoee of an old acquaintance of hi*, now reddent in
England, but who had furraerly been confidt^ntial ^crv-xnt
to Norman Locklmrt of Lee. Mr. Lock hart, when on a
visit at Dumfries received it from his brother-in-law,
Mr. M'Murdo, the Duke of Queentberry's repreisontative
St Drumlanrig, to whom it was no dooLt origioaUy
addressed I and by Mr. I>ockhart it was bequeathed as A
memorial to hi^ faithful attendant. The poet at that
date was frequently in Ayribire, coming and going, be-
fore hh final settlement at KUisland, and the letter mu^
have been written on the occasion of hii Journey to
Mauchline^ when he went to bring home hia bride. It
gives additional ioterest to that journey, so important in
his life, and shows him exactly as he was upon the road.
It seems, in fact, to be the only letter ever written by him
from Sanqubor, although ho was often enough there both
profe^isianally and otherwise, and once in a verv bad
humour, as we know, only two months later. Mut lU
chief literary intereit is In the proof it affords so dis-
tinctly, that hia friemi'ibtp with M'Murdo and others
of that daas was courted by such jiersons tbemsdves, and
was in no wav brought about by any intrusion of tho
poet."
Mr. John M^urdo, who i^ heie mentioned,
was Chamberlain to Duke William of Qiieena-
berry (old Q.) from 1780 to 1797, occiipying
during that period a prominent position in the
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[4«*S,VIl.
county of Dumfries. His grandsan, Major-Gefieral
W. M*Murdo, C,B,, is known iis n distinguished
officer of the British army, having attracted the
attention of the late Sir Charles Napier by his
personal intrepidity and great zeal in the Scinde
war^ more particularly at the battle of Meeanee.
To this I may add another letter of Bums, n
portion of which is found in Chambers's Lift
(vol iv, p. 260), but it had never appeared in its
entirety till it v^aa read by Mr. M*T>iarmid, secre-
tary, at the anniversary dinner at Dumfries in
honour of the poet, on January 25, 1870. It is as
follows : —
"nOBERT BURNS TO MR. FINDLATKB.
•• Dear Sir,— I am both much surprised and vexed at that
acciilent of Lorimer's itock. The lost survey I made prior
to Mr Lortmer'B going to £dior« I was very particular
in my iuApoction, aiul t]ie rtuantity was certainly in bia
pouossion as I stated iL The surveys I made dariniJ^bLa
absenos misbt as well have been marked * \^yubirr\i^ as I
never fonna an vbc^dy but tho tadv, who I know is not mid-
tress of keys, &c., to know anything of it, and one of the
times it would have n?joJced all Hell to have seen her 80
drnak. I have not surveyed there since his return. 1 know
the gentleman's ways are, like the grace of G , past
all ctim prehension ; but 1 tjhall givo the house a severe
scrutiny lo-morrow mornings and send jou in the naked
facta. X know« Sir, and regret deeply^ that this business
glances with a malign aspect on my character as an
Ofhoer ; but as 1 am really innocent in the aflTair, and as
th« gentleman is known to bo an illicit Dealer, and par-
ticularly as this is the ningh instance of th« least shadow
of earelessnca* or Impropriety in my conduct as an Officer,
I shall be peculiarly unfortunate if m}" character shall fall
a sacnficG to the dark manauvrcs of a smuggler, — I am,
Sir, your obliged and obctiieiit humble servt,,
" Sunday even. ** Robt. Buhks.
'^ I send you some rhymes I have jost itnlshed, which
tjckJe my fancy a little."
There is no date to thin letter, and we cannot,
therefore, say at what period he first attracted llie
attention of his snperiors by looseness in the per-
formance of hid duliea, but we can eiii^ily imagine
that the duty was irksome from the beginning, as
he sung on fretting hie appointment in 1780 to the
following elt'ect: —
<* Searching auld wives' barrels^
Och, hon I the day !
That cluriy barm should stain my laurels.**
In this letter be " regrets deeply that thia
business glances with a malign aspect on my cha-
racter as an officer," and this contirras what Mr.
Findlftter in bis tesliraony in favour of the official
character of Bums states, as given by Chambers
(iv, 299), that " he was jealous of the least im-
putation on his \i^ilance.'^ There are anecdotes,
nowever, which show that his good nature in-
duced him at times to wink at the peccadilloes of
** auld wives " when they attempted to cheat the
revenue* The Lorimer here spoken of was the
father of the youn^ lad)' whom the poet calls
Chlorifl, and whose "beauty oiid charms he cele-
brates in no fewer than eleyen of his most auc-
oessful lyrics.
Id addition to these reminiaoences of Buma^ J
may state that there are eonie Iradiliimarr
counts in Oloseburn of the fiit» if t>i' Xn
which the poet was bom. Wh
brother of the poet, took the fan
Oloseburn parish, it was brought amoog hisj
from Ayrshire to that place, where it remolaj
hla death, flis goods were then sold by pub
roup, and as Bacon the landlord of Brown h
Inn had become known from his connection wil
Bitms about 1790, it was bought by him^ ai
occupied by an old groom, Joe Laogl
known in the early pwt of this century
were travelling along the Carliele imd ^•in.-j
road. On the death of Bacon (his wife had pn
deceased him) in 1824 his poods were f«>ld, aa
Joe^ who was a great favourite in the parish. It
it be known that he wished to purchaj^ the bdd'^
with which he had been eo long asiodated.
When it was put up no one offered for it, sad
Joe got it at his own price. Joe spent the hut
years of his life in Dumfries, and on nis de
oed came into the possession of one of bis i
ters, who was married to a shoemaker,
bedstead is said to have been cut up and fo:
into snud- boxes.
The following account of another relic of Bun
appears in the Giasffcw Merald, and is particula
interesting : —
**A eorretsponnent at Lennabagow writes:— In
very valuable and extensive collection of rtn
the poasesHion of Mr* J, RGreon shields of K
hagow, there is a remarkably interostiiig siu^ v^^t..
perhaps unique, relic of our national poet<— or at ktM
Ihe first e<1ition of bis works, publiahad at Uinai
by John Wilson in 1786. It is well known to '
hunters * that this edition oonsisted of 600 copies^ U vydi
about 350 were anbscribed for. The relic allod *"'""
the * prospectus * of this work, with the sutogi
sixteen of the original subscribers; it might b«v I
more accurate to state ^eea of tbete aabsaibonH i
name of one is scored out, with the ranarfc-
bv some to be in the handwriting of the
blockhead refused it,* The folloi#ng is an a
script of this precloos doca meat : ^ * April
PaorosALS for publishing;, bv sabscription, ]
Pqems, By Robert Burns. The vork to be degantl^
printed in one vytume octavo. Price, lUlcbcd,^"*
shillings. As the aathor has not the most dista
eenary view in publishing, as eoon as so
scribers ap{)ear as will defray the neoeaaaiy i
work will be sent to the preas.
* Set out the brunt aide of yonr shin.
For pride in poets is nae *ain ;
Glon-'s the prize for which they rin,
And Faun*'* their joe.
And wha blaws best the horn shall wis,
And wharefore no ? '
— Allan Ramtay*
We, undenmbscribera, enffnge to take •'■ ' •■^" '
tiooed work on the conditions wpecifietl
one copy; R. Tbom^wn, 1 rrtpr- Jamr
Gavin Stewart, i
Will. Johnston,
BoswbII, one cv^,. , ^.-,... !..„„^, ;„„ ^.^,..
I^ii >'
«''S.T1I.MatS7,V1.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
451
nowitMn* one copy; Colin l^I'DouiTall, one coppy ;
CtiAflc* HowiUon, one copy ; Willra. M'Call, one coppy,
wnt per Mr, I>un ; William Templeton, one cappy ;
Williiini S^^miner, copy sent per Chftrlea Cncbion — The
blui khu4id refused it ; John Mirry, two coppiea.'*
The following unpubliBhed flcmp may scarcely
ha worth rt»corditig except as n proof of hie power
of impt^mptu satire when provoked by anythinj?
-wldch he considered mean* Bums and a reverend
clergy miwi happened to call for their horses tvt
the snme time at Brownhill Ion. When the
ostler brought them the minister g^ave him two-
pence« and I3um9| handing' him a sixpence, tamed
round to his companion and called out —
** Black's your coat,
Black's your hair»
Blacked your cod science.
And nocht to »pnir/*
C. T. Ramaoe.
LINES BY SIR JOUN BORGOYNE.
I send you the ** Lines addressed by CSenerfll
BuTgoyne to his Wife^ Lady Charlotte/* on her
endeavouring to dissuade him from going on a
dABiZeroua expedition. I am pretty sure they have
Ijefore been printed. It is not true that he
i with her : he mamed her with her eldest
bn*ther*e full approbation, and from his houisv in
London * The fath er obj ected, but was afterwards
rMxmciled tc^ her. She died at Kensington Pahu^e
in 1770; happily for her, before hia ill-succesa in
America. I see a new edition of The MoUiad is
projected — General Burgoyne waa a frequent con-
tHbtitor to it : —
*♦ Still t!i>ea my obstinate repine,
And rea0on*B voice disprove ?
Still think him cold wht) would combine
Philosophy and tove ?
•* Then trjv from yet a nobler source,
To fgBASi the w'iahM relief-
Faith gives to reason double force.
And mockfl the MMults of grief.
*• Br her, bright Hope^a enlivening ray,
Vatience, and peace arc given ;
Attend her call, resign, obey^
And leave the rest to Heaven.
•* That power which framed ray Gharlotte^s heart
Thtti tender, thus sincere,
Shall bleaa each wiah that love can atartt
Or abeence foster thei«.
"* Safe in the tbadow of that power,
III tread the boetile ground j
Though fier\^ doatha in tempests shower.
And thotijonda fall aroond.
** Afitl when the happy hoar afaol] come,
(O speedy may it be !)
That liringi thy foithfal soldier back
To lon^ content, and th«e,
^ Pure ohaQ our gratitude ascend
To iliui who ^ides our days ;
Who, whQe He gives with bounteoua hand.
Accepts our blui for praise."
Hi W* Ii«
MARY QUEEN OP SCOTS:
A StJlOtART OF THB FLACBS AITD PERIOBS OF EEB
CAPTIVITY IN EXGLAin)*
1568, — Landed at Working t^jn in Cumberland,
on May 17, after the battle of Langside, and re-
mained in Carli*ile Oaatle until July 15, and then
conducted to Bolton Castle, in Wenaley -Dale,
wht^re she remained until January,
L50i>, — when she was removed, and arrived at
Tutburv, in Staffordshire, on February 2. She
waa at Wintield Manour, near Derby, from June
to September, but returned to I^utbiiry^ and
towarda the ^nA of the year waa taken to Coventry p
1570. — In January waa again at Tutbury, but
in the early summer waa at Chataworth and per-
haps Winheid, and about ChristmiuB was aent to
Sheffield Castle.
1571. — Was for a few days sent from Sheffield
Caatle to Sheffield Maoour,' about three mOea off,
that her apartments might bo cleaned. This waa
at mid.^ummer of this year.
1572.— In Sheffield Castle.
1573,— In the autumn visited both Chataworth
and Buxton under guard, but returned in No-
vember to Sheffield Cfustle.
1574, 1575.— In Sheffield Caatle.
1570, — In the spring a short vipiit to Buxton.
1577, 1578, 1570^— In ShelTield Caetle.
1580. — Xt Buxton for a week*
158L — In the summer a short visit to Buxton,
and perhaps to Chataworth.
1582. — In June and part of July at Buxton, for
the last time.
J 583, — A short visit to Worksop.
1584.— On September % finally left Sheffield
Castle for Win field Man our.
1585. — On January 13 removed to Tutbury.
1580. — Early in this year t4iken to Chartley,
and in September to Fotheringhay Castle, and
there beheaded on February 7, 1587.
Having written a short paper for the May
number of Aunt Judy$ Mngadae on the subject
of *' Queen Mary*s Captivity,** abstracted from the
late Joseph Hunters IlisUtrij of Halluvuhire^
which I have recently enlarged and edited, I have
thought the foregoing dates and names of places
might interest some readers of *' N. & Q.'* How
many railwav travellers who pass by smoky Shef-
field have tie least idea that Queen Mary waa
imprisoned there for more than twelve years?
Not one passenger in a month, I suspect.
Alfred Gatxt, D.D.
HEREDITARY GENIUS.
George Villiers, the first Duke of Buckingham
John Churchill, the great Duke of Marlborough
and William Pitt, Earl of Chatham, three men of
pre-eminent distinction in Bngliab. l^V2it^^\3A:^^
482
NOTES AND QUERIES.
one Btriking point of rosemblaiice. Their tAlente
were greiit> but their brilliant success in life waa
mainlT owing to the advHntages of n tine person,
a noble presence, and a manner which alternaiel?
fascinated and awed all who came in contact with
them. It has not been hitheito remarked by the
advocates of " hereditary genius," that these three
great men were all of the aame blood } for Marl-
borough and Pitt were lineaUy deacended
the house of A^llliers, n» will be seen tn the ]
eree below. In further illuatmiioo of tha L
ditary charma of this family, the pedigree
been 'extended to three famous ladiea of tiie mii
race, who by their beauty and wit enslKvid »►
spectively the inoonatant Charles II., the reUgiaoi
James XL, and the saturnine WilUam HI,.
George Villiorp, Duke of Bucks. Sir Edir, Villicr*, Prcaident of Manster. Elk. Villiera -= Joba Lord
I
Wm. VilUers, Lord
Groudisoti.
Sir Edw. Villkra,
Burba rfl V LI Hens
DuelitiAs of Cleve-
land, iiiiatress of
Charles II.
\
Elir« Villicr«.
C<>uiiteaM of
Orkn«v, misitress
of William IlL
Audrey Botuler, Helea Boteler
mar, Frauds Lei^b, Earl
of CliicUcistcr.
t
Georpe VUlieni ■* Mary Lei^,
Lord Grandifloo.
Sir John Drake, Zk
Eliz. Drake « Sir WtnfUni
Churchill, Kl
35dw, Mllicrs, Brigr-General,
JohQ Churchill, K-G,,
Diike af Mailborougb.
1
f"
Arabella Ctnirrihin*
laistres of Jann^Qi
. I
Robt Pitt, Esq., M.P. - Harriet Villiera. James FitE-James, Duke of Berwick, K.G.
Wlilimii Pitt, Earl of Chatham,
Tbwam
"Tub Gath Ajas."— A practice has lately
come into vogue of naming novels by aoma etiiaSnt
poetical phrase ; auch^ for instance, as Noi Witehj,
tnd iofi Irell which line is to be found in OtheUtK
Or, ag^aiOi Red as a Rose is Sfie, which is obvi-
oualy taken frooi the well-known verse in the
Ancient Manner. The singular title of the re-
nmrkahle little volume The Gates Ajar^ by Mies
E. 8. Phelps of Andover, U. S,, may probably
have been suggiested by the thouf^ht of another
Amoricfln writer — namely, Longfellow; for in his
OMiti Lefftmdj part II., one of the charactera
(Eleie) eaya : —
'* When Clirist «J?C€ndetl
Triumpbantly flnom star to #tiir,
lie left tJie £Ktle« of heavea ajar**
Eff.
A TYPOOHU'Hicix Odbitt, — In a poem on
^*The Milton Gallery" by Amos Cottle (1802),
the brother of the Bristol 'pnbliahert the friend of
Coleridge and South ey, the poot , deaciihing the
pictures of Fuaeli says —
" The lubber fiend outatnetch'd the chimney near,
Or md llyaaefi on the larboard Steer."
Ulysiees steered to the larboard to shun Cbar^'b-
dis^ But the compositor makes him get upon the
back of a young bullock, the left one in tli« dfOti!
After all, however, he only interprets th« ttft
literally. " Steer/* as a substantive, has no ote
meaning than buUock. The atib^^iantive of tk
verb ** to steer'* is steerage. '* He that hath tb
steerage of my course " (Shakespeare.) Thaoooi-
posi tor evidently understood that Ulysaea nodaift
ox ; he would hardly else have spelt Steer iiitk
a capital S, G. J. Da WuJ>%
Saggar. — ^Tho potter's art is probably one (£
the oldest in the world, and it would be no gmt
wonder to find an old world name connected witi
it Many of the readers of "X. & Q/' are no
doubt aware that the coarse earthenware jemA
in which the pottery is carefully " placed ** bafwe
it is baked tn the oven is called a mmfor, I have
always considered tbis word as axi aEbpeviatioD of
saffffuanL But I have lately changed my mind, aid
incljne to the opinion that it may be derived Uwk
the Hebrew^rt^cr, to shot up; fo- tK.. ^-^^^f^g^
in setting one saggar on top of ; mot
careful to lute the two together ^-. ...^: ,,k^m^'
gars may be perfectly airtight A word in nuicb
common use, $ack f6r graiB, is pure Hebnnr*
BarsIeiDt Stafibrdahire.
4»»> S. V1I» Mat 1
no
NOTES AND QUERIES.
453
A Ghost Story. — The following is an extract
from A private letter written by a lady of rank,
Jaou&r}' 10, 1827: —
**H»Te you b«ar(l a cboat story aboot LonJ Hastings ?
Some ycm ago Lad}' William Russell, in a merrr moodf
mtii« ftQ agnenaent irith bcr unde, thiit which of them
died liT»t should call oo ih© lunivor to give tidingi of
what hdul iMiaaad. Threts iiighU before elie heAit! of Lord
Hastings* death, flhe'^aj yifited by hi;i apparition and
inlbnned that he had nhakca off'hi^ mcrLal coil more
eatUy tbao be could have expected. For each inteHigencc
it waa acarcelr worth while to return !"
a
Jnrira. — There is a letter in the Middle Hill
library which h aaid to he by Junius, which once
belonged to Sir George Jackeon of the /Vdmiralty.
It i^ A violent tirade agmost an admiral or general
dimng the American War of Independence, and
bis neTor been printed. P.
FRANCIS AND JUNIUS,
Ajb the interest taken in this long vexed que«*
tion hsB now revived by the publication of profes-
sional evidence derived from htuidicritmg, perhaps
the followiog suggestion may be acceptable in
reference to the o^al seal used by Sir Philip
Fnmeid. In the Lt>fe of Francis by the late Joseph
Parkee^ continued by H. Merivide, 8vo> 1807,
Tol L p. 106^ we are told :^
»*At tub time (17C7) the ofllHAl aeals were the arms
of the individual hendji of the ;offic«<^ and each chicft on
liU first taking office, had the privilege of a gratuitooa
supply to him of duplicate engraved tetih,, tor the separate
mie of the priod|j«l clerki*. Thus D*Oyly [ I>epoty
fleewitary of War] und Frflncifl fCbirf Clerk] each bad
a lea! of Lord B>arringtoa*jS [Secretary- at War] coat of
If true, this fact is very important in reference
to letters written and sealed by Francis.
At p. 266 we find thnt two private letters to
hk wife, written from Manchester and Oxford in
August 1771, were sealed with a lart/e War Office
mnl. This seal unfortunately is nut dei*cribt*d by
Mr. Merivale, whether it bore Lord Barrin^lon'a
arms or noti bnt it is hence evident that Francis
was in the habit of camjitu/ an officml seal about
with him^ and did not t^cruplo to use it on bis pri-
Tttte letters. Now in the list of letters addressed
by J Qui us to Woodfall (Appendix, No. 1), we
** Xo. 7. Wrftten on War Omcc paper. Obliterated
Ctiroitti wax iieal {Barrington'a) ttampfd ottr with n walch
**No. 15. Written on War Office ^It -edged paper.
Larjfe and duuble impresaed duguiMed impresnion «eal
(pNjhtthfy ftmmni oj Lord Barrinffton** £irnu)» curonet
It would be very desirable to know more about
tlie«e aeals, and to have them oompnred with other
perfect impre^ons of Lord Barrington*3 olfice
seal. Many letters must exist rfgtied by Lord
Barrington, to which the official seal was af-
fixed, and it might thus be proved whether a
duplicate of this seal was used by the writer of
the letters to Wocidfnll. Tf thi-? .Should prove to
be the case, it won Id add one link more to the
strong chain of evidence which points nut Sir
Philip Francis as the writer of the Junius letters.
It certainly aeeni« strange that Francis should
have risked discovery by using such a f^efll when
writing as Junius^ but he probably thought that
by partly defacing the impression he had ren-
dered such discovery impossible. Is it so ?
____^ P.M.
Child born ok the A^NnEnsART op its
Parents' Weddino-dat. — Do any of your cor-
respondents who wrote about the seventh son of
a seventh eon know of some old saying or legend
about a son born at the very hour and day on the
anniversary of his parents' wedding-day ? Z.
Lncknow.
DoRE,^ — King Edward IV. is said to have con-
ferred the above name upon the Worcestershire
family of Mabbe as a **mftrk of renpect " for their
aufl'erings in his cause, and on account of their
relationship to the Hortimers, through whom he
derived his chum to tho crown. Whence the
name of Dmt f II. S. G.
Drttm: an Evening PiRTY.— What is the de-
rivation of the word dniyn, meaning an evening
party i^ Henry F, Ponsokby.
'* EvERTBorDT's BusTNESs.'* — The origin or first
use of common proverbs ia rather a curions sub-
ject,
In the opening of No. 18 of The Tatlcr occnrx
(almost in these words) the familiar saying —
** What is eveij'body^s business is nobody's busi-
ncsB." Query if this ia tho first time this was
said ? l^TT-rELTON.
'* The fretfcx PoitcuriNE.'' — I dare say hun-
dreds of readers of Shakapere, when they have
met witli the passage in Ifamkij *^ Like quills
upon the fretful porcupine/' have imagined that
the ** immortal William *' intended to convey the
impression that the porcupine was by nature of a
peevish or fretful disposition* but 1 have Fomc
doubts whether the word ** fretful '* was uned by
him in Buch a sense. I find in an old dictionarv
(published in 1O06) the following:— '*Frd, t, a*
round verril or ferril" Was not the word ** fret-
ful " intended to describe the round quills on the
back of the animal — ^* the fret-tuM porcupine *' ?
1 i Mr
rsteevann shows this by quoting from ShUtttheiaf a
collection of cpif*rains, Jkc, 1608 : —
*♦ Porpen tine-backed, for he Jica on tfaornes."
In the fourth foHo, it will be remembered, tbe word* arc
'* fretful poffjcntiiie."]
454
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»kS.VII.MAT*7,71.
XJkde dertvatub " Qladh" ? — ^The Celtic word
gladh is said to bear the meaning of sword as
well as river, meanings at first siffht very opposite,
but which I think may be brou^t into harmoni-
ous relation. The raiiical idea seems to be the
reflexion of light » to glitter, to glisten, &c. Thus
we often near of gliUering blades as well as shm-
ing rivers : gladius, glaive^ a connate word ; glade,
a dear snace where the sunbeams play ; glad
(Sax. gl€Ba) ; gladness » the light of the soul re-
Jlected in the countenance : all these words seem
to spring from a common radicle, tiie nrimary idea
being, as I have said, the reflexion of light.
I noticed, in a recent communication in these
pages (p. 265) of the word glatten, that glatt
•(Swed.), plat (Don.), glatt (Ger.) means smooth,
•^c, and IS applied to ice. Here seems to be the
;same idea. I beg leave to ask some one better
versed in philology than myself, whether Sanscrit
.affords any root that bears out this conjectural
•etymology? W. S.
HoBAN Abxb. — ^The arms, "Gules a chief bendy
•of eight az. and ar.," are ascribed to Horan (Ire-
land). Information as to who they were granted
to, and when, would oblige S. B. F.
Sib William Jones's Alcaic Ode. — Every
• schoolboy knows this patriotic poem. In one line
of it the author denounces **the fiend Discre-
tion,'' by which phrase he obviously means arbi-
trary rule, or what in these days is called personal
^government. I notice that in recent manuals of
•elocution the word *' discretion " is being dropped
out, and another of the same length substituted
for it — c. g, ** dissension." My question is, whe-
ther the old reading be not the correct one ? and
whether the new emendators are not taking too
great a liberty with a standard English classic
poem, besides exhibiting a trifle of real ignorance?
D. Blaib.
Melbourne.
Sib Rob. Killiqbew : Buelamachi. — Prof*
Jorissen of Amsterdam, who is entraged on the
Life of Holland's poet, Constantin Iluygens, asks
me information about a liobert Killigrew, Knight,
whom Huygens often visited in London in 1623.
He says he knows that he had twelve children,
and that the mother was drowned in 1641 or
1642 under a bridge. Ho guesses that this Hob.
Killigrew is a son of Burleigh's brother-in-law.
Sir Rob. Killigrew appears in the Calendar of
State Papers for the first time, May 13, 1613 ; he
is then released from the Fleet. May 19 of the
same year he is committed for holding intercourse
with Overbury in prison ; Sept. 8, 1626, he is to
succeed Sir Dudley (as ambassador to the United
Proyinces) ; and Jan. 31 and Feb. 7, 1626, he
appears as appointed ambassador to the States.
We find Mm further in 1628-29, but no longer
aa ambaaeador: Jan. 2, 1030, as vice-cliamWI^Ti
to the queen ; June 11, 1632, as captain of the
fort of Pendennis ; and Nov. 26, 1633, as de-
ceased. Chalmers* Biog, Diet, mentions three of
his sons — William (afterwards Sir William Eilli-
ffrew), Thomas, and Henry ; and I find one of hii
daughters, Elizabeth, married Viscount Shannon.*
As to the father of Sir Rob. Killigrew, I find
in the ArchiBologia, xviiL 99, a pedigree of the
Killigrews, in which a Robertus a|ppears as "fiL
& haer. superstes 1620 of« WilL KiUigrew, who
obiit Nov. 23, 1622," and whose vrife had been
'» Marg. fil. Tho. Saunders."
Prof. Jorissen would also like to know who
the Burlamachis were. The Calendar of State
Piters of James L and Charles II. (1619-1638)
frequently mention a Philip Burlamachi, who
seems to have been a distinguished merchant at
that time A document of June 12, 1619, con-
tains details of the proceedings in the Star Cham-
ber against 160 strangers accused of transporting
seven millions of money, among them 3aria-
machi: —
" 20 Jan. 1620. The merchant-strangers are still in the
Fleet Burlamachi has made bis peace for 10*0006
ready money.— 1635. Certificate for Mr. PhiL B.. mer-
chant, naturalized. He was bom in Sedan in Fraaoe.
and has been in England this thirty vears and more. #fie
has certain rooms at Mr. Gould's house in FencboRii
Street for bis necessary occasions of writing there soaie
two or three davs in 'the week, bat his dwelling-boose,
with his wife and children and fiimily, is at Patney."
I have found abo a Lawrence Burlamadii,
April 20, 1603, and a Jas. Burlamachi, Aug. 6,
1623. But I can find no traces of them else-
where.
Can any of your readers oblige me by some
more definite information as to Sir Rob. KilK-
grew and his parentage, and the Burlamachis 'i
J. H. IIessbia
LiiTCOLXSHiRE : Drinking Song. — About the
beginning of this century a drinking song was
popular in Lincolnshire, of which 1 can only re-
cover what follows —
** Bring us good ale in store.
And when that's done send us more,
And the key of the cellar door."
I shall be much obliged if any one can refer me
to a perfect copy. K. P. D. E.
Rev. C. R. Mattjbin. — The AfJienaum, in
enumerating a list of William Bewick's portraits,
adds to the name of this gentleman — author of
Bertram, a once popular tragedy, and some strik-
ing romances — the words '' of barrel-orfnin fame."
What does this mean ? D. Blaib.
Melbonme.
Miniature Painter, temp, Charles L— Can
any one suggest the name of a miniature painter,
temp. Charles L, with the initials D. D. G. P The
\
t* Sea"N.&Q."4f»»S.viL2M.]
<•» S. VII. Mat 27, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
lolnmtuTe re presents a man in a black dress wltb
a large white iallinjf collar, and witt lon^ hair
fallinsz- over the shoulders. It is painted on card-
board! 0. C.
The First Book of Napoleok. — "Who U the
author of —
»» The first hook of Xiipoleon, the tyront of the earth ;
irntten in the !>813th yt^ar of th« world, and 1809tb year
c»f the Christian eriit by EHokim the ScritH\ a dfacondant
of the nn>dprn branch of the tribe of L^vU &c. Longman,
Hurst, & Co. in 1809,"
Is this a rare work, and waa it over suppreseed ?
H. 11. R.
Ovii>, " Metam/* xnr. 254 : " Benigxior.'* —
Peril aps it is bo me wh Hi la te, when cine has written
azkd published a traoslatinn of a hook, to set about
finding out the real meaning of certain of its
p>«li9ages. Rut having thus more or lesa dis-
counted th«t objection, I proceed^ if the columns
of '*N. & Q." will utTord me the ^pace, to make
the inquiry: —
** Ctijua equo9 preliura pro docIc poposeerat hostis,
Aruiu negate mihi» fupritquc Ifenhnior Ajax."
Metam, xiii. 2M.
What is the proper meaning of the Inst three
Tvordfl ? The Delphin Intcrpretaiio gives it thua^
•* sitque melius de vobis meritus Ajax quaoi ego/*
Dnj'den'a rendering of the lines is —
*• Kf!fu<ie me now his arms^ whose fiery steeds
Were promised to the spy for his nr>ctamttl deeds ;
And let dull Ajax benr away my right,
When all his days outbalnnce this one night " —
n v»?reion which in no way helps to answer my
tiofi. On consulting Burmann's edition, I find
. lleinsius says: —
" Sed nil fortasifl mutnndum, nt hem^nior pawirlL*
vttmatur, pro eo qui btnigne hubetur. Cujaa tamen
■i^tficationis aliud exemplum qu«ro. Ita sib bcAignior
grttiosior/*
And Burmann closes his note with his own view —
** Immo beniffnhr est mogis popularis, blaadus, nt ideo
obtineat quae velit,"
I had not seen Burmann'a note when I ventured
to translate —
*» Let Ajflx have them ! Ye may make at least
His temper something sweeter with tbe gift"!
And I founded my interpretation on Ilorace^s use
of the word btniffnus in the second satire of tbe
first book^
" AmhubAiaram eoll<*gia, pharm«cn[>ol»,
Mendici, mimfp, bftliitront*^, hf*c prenus omne
Ma^tum nc ^ollicitum €»i cantoris morte TigdU ;
Qaippe benign n* erat."
I ikgree with Ileineiua in doubting the p&uiTe
use of benifpt{oi\ and seem to differ from Burmann
only in thi>* — that he says Ajax will be *' benig-
tjioi " <o gd (ut obtineat) the arms ; J, that Ajax
may become so if he gds them. Tbe Del p bin In-
ierjjreiatio appears to rae of the tamest, TheTe is,
to mj mind, a manifest sneer in the words. 1
should be glad to hear the opinions on this ques-
tion of some of the scholars who contribute tf»
your pages. None of my critics have, so far as I
know, noticed th« pa*isage.
If this query should succeed in attracting atten-
tion, I ^hfill have two or three similar problems
to propostr. IiE:?RY Kino.
6, Paper Ituiltlinga, Temple.
StRSTErnEN Proctob. — Wanted some account
of tho above-named Sir Stephen, \vho built Foun-
tains Hall — of where he was burn, and where he
died; also, information respecting his parentage^
marriage, &c, Ei>waki> Mobtoit.
[Mr. W'albran. iti hia Memorials vf the Ablttif of St,
Martj of Fonntntits (IM3, p.3(i8), hWibe following note:
"According to ii geni-alogy, illustrrtttd by arinoHal ina-
palementiv which was fd<ii\ed in the win^lo^vs of Foon-
tains llalU by Sir Stepbtn Proctor* in the lime of King
Japies L, thi* family derived its descent from *Sir Oliver
Mirewrftyc of Tymbridgf, in the conn tie of Kont'f the
rvason of a change of «t urn amo b^ing perbaps suggested
by tbe further st^remertt tbat ■Thomas Mirewray^ als.
Proctor of Firehed, married Mary, daughter of Ttioma«
Proctor of Wintcrboni/ Both these places are in the
parbh of Gfirgrtive, adjncent to that of Kirkffcy-Mftlhnro-
dale, and were formerly among the posaessions of tho
nhbev r.f Fiimess, in l^inpiwhire. — VaL Eccl. vol. v.
p* 2711/* For »Sir Stephen Prwtor's servicej^, petition?,
revenue projects, &c^ consult Lansdnwnu 21Sb.» Noa.153,
167.1
Qttotatiow wanted. — A MS. copy of verses has
been put into my hands, beginning : —
" Winter's coVl blasts have gone ; now spring appears
To cheer the saddest heart, to dry our tears ;
It seems to catry on its silent breath.
The miii??ic of our lives, no sound of death ;
lUit still I beAfd n drooping flower Ray,
*' Thy time a not yet, watch, and abide Ihy day,"
Can any of the readers of *^ N. & Q." giire me
Information whether, and if so, where these lines
have appeared in print? T. W, Webb.
Scottish Guard of France.-— In 3'''' S, iv. 8, 1
find a note whi('h seema to imply that the Jlcot-
tish Guard of the French kings existed in the
time of Charles VIL, but was disbanded in 1 1'iO.
The Baron de Tlesenval speaks of it in hb Mc-
moires (ii, 84), in connection with a curious privi-
lege which is worthy of a note* He is describing
the miserable death -bed of Louis XV. in 1774,
when all but four of the crowd of assembled cour-
tiers fied from the palace the moment that the
king expired, and says ; —
" II n'y rest.i que U dtic d'Ayen, survivaticier de fton
pere, cjipitaine des Ecoasais^ dont k droit est de garder le
roi mort."
GORT,
Passaoks in SHEtLBT. — In Ros«otti*« Shelley,
** un annotated edition, Moxon," tbe second verse
in the ** Question ^* readj^ thus ; —
". . . , and that tall flower that wets-
Like a child half in rpnclerneas and mirth,
When the low wind its playmate's voice it bears. ^
456
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
[4«*s.viLiUTi;,nt
The lioe—
" Iti moilicr's f«i« with hoftrcn-coUccted tear*'*—
is omitted, but it seems required as well for the
sense OS the measure. Is the omission intentional^
or is it raerely a slip of the printer's ?
In thnse ji>rmeT editions of SheU^f/e PoHiccU
Work9—%h^i of 1847 (Moxon) by Mrs. Shelley,
that published by ** C, Dnly, Red Lion Square,
180^/* and that by "Milner'and Sowerbj, 1667/'
the line —
**LikQ a child half in tendemesa and mirth " —
is wanting. Does it appear in Rossetti'a edition
for the fir^t time, and what is the authority for
its insertion P J, A.' K
WhitcAbbev, Bdfist.
SoiWBT QuBBtES. — 1. Where does Walter
SaTEge Landor say that Milton "snatched the
sonnet from the hand of Love, who cried to lose
it, and gave the notes to Glory," or worda to that
effect P
2, Did Wordsworth write Ma Bonnets on "Na-
tional Liberty and Independence '* (amongst the
noblest in the language) before or after his con-
version to Toryism ?
^. Whom does Archbishop Trench allude to in
the last two Itnef? of his sonnet commencing ** A
counsellor well titted to advise," &c. P I presume
Wordsworth.
4. Mr, Rospetti says, in a note to Shelley's Osy-
mandioi, that this fine sonnet was written in
friendly emulation with Keats and Lui^h Hunt,
both of whom also wrote sonnets on Ej^fyptiaii
subjects, I see one bv Leigh Hunt, entitled A
7%ofiffht on the NiUj but I cannot find one by
Keats, Did the latter ever write one, and where
can I meet with it ?
May I venture to suprgest to Mr. Rossetti that
he has (to my ear at least) ruined one of thu
mast musical lines Shellev ever wrote, by the
omission of a single letter ? I allude to the liae
in Admaia —
" Aad the wild winds Acw around, solihiag in their dis-
may.**
Mr. Roasetti's edition has it —
^ And the wild wiada flew roumdf aobbing in ihcir din-
miuV*
Th« ftiib-stitution of round for around quite alters
the rhylhiji, and causes the line to haft lament-
ably. One can only rend it by empha^'iti.ing *' And/'
which 8helley could hardly have intended, I
should be glad to hear the opinions of others on
this point, Jonathan Bouchieb.
2, St/mley Villas, Bexley Heath, S.£.
" Tn E Ta itxderer/^*- When was this sobriquet
given to the London 7Yme8 ? I have in ray po^aes-
sion some numbers of a schoolboys* newspaper
called '* The Thunderor, written in 1822." The
heading and motto were printed^ the itfl mi
manuscript, the copy serving for tiie wbbb MtkofL
PhilDdelpbia,
[Whco Thomas Bamca succeeded Dr. S«addaft ii
editor of The Timet^ one of his most abl« coa/BjUftm W
Capt. Kdw&rd SterUnj]r^ whose connection wUli ItofttK^
conim«nced in lbli% id a series of lettccs nadar tliftae*
DAtare Frliit, afterwards publi&hed aa a npamti wodtla
throe partly Capt. Sterling in the latUr part of bit Bfe
became well known in Loadon political •od«*yt aid to
him it h said the name of " theTbuodarer of Tike Timm^
waa originalljr applied. Hia salary, it is stated, vw t«n
tlioasand ayfar nml a '^hare of the papev« Ila dM il
South Placed Kri i ^n Sept-S^lSiT.agndKT^^T-
four. liiaaccoci., u John was an enuaant cdtte
and essayist, tl)»3 menu ox Wordaworth, CoUvMff^ Ot
Quincey/aad other diatiagaished men.]
TopooRAPiTY, — Wanted the namea of tiro «
three of the latest work? which for matter ttd
arrangement may be considered vanongat tb« biat
examples of local, especially parochial, hiiLofy.
I have not yet seen Major flsnWick'a JSTM^ory ^
the Parochial Chapdry of Goomargh^ mesdooed
with approbation in "N/& Q.'' for Feb. 18, ISTL
LajobiJ
"TnK World's JirDGioaiT." — A late an
of the Quarterit/ Jteview begins with the <
ment that '' a great poet has said tJiat the htstosr
of the world is the judgment of ih© wnrli**
What great poetP D, Blais.
MelboartHi.
litplirtf.
GERMAJ? ETYMOLOGICAL DrCTlOX ABIES.
(4'»« S. vii 3a3, 380.)
It ia really very difficult to give a pWn aaswtr
to this ^* foreigner in distress, •becai ' jxJiJ*
upon the exact meaning of a *' j. mtta
etymological dictionary, and of " ^mfoi ctiutj^Ma''
Chambers's dictionary, mentiooad by voiir cor-
respondent, is certainly cleverly done. It la oaadt
up from the latest etymological information^ sail
afthou^irh I discover in it sometimes quaar asi
foolish Ihitch and German words, which make m*
laugh, I must confess that I ahonld be glad T
Holland possessed ao (generally) correct a vo
lary on Ruch a scale.
Something like Chambens's dictionarr '
sued in Genuany in 1834, entitled *' Sduoitth
ner (Friedr.), Kurzes dmdtehm WSrUrhifA fisi
Eiifmologie, Sunmytrnk mid OHkogmMg. Bann-'
atadt, Metz.*'
This, I think, would do for the FoREto^ns;
especially as the original price of thia book waaj
but If thaler, or 5^. The second edition, pab-I
liahed in 1837, cost 2 thalers, or CU. In 185S ■
* Cciaid ba not address himcdf to th« SaeMrty iat i
' Forf jgners in Di«tresi " ?
tXL Mxr 27, *
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
^kf. Wcigand commenced a third *' vollig um-
PPtrbeltetd Aulla^e ^' of tliU dictionary* and it waa
^completed lost year. It ia Mucli improved, and
i>»ay be said to' be A la hauteur of its time. The
■B-knowB biblio^aphicai review, Littraritch^B
mmiraibhtt fur Detdsvhhmd (1871, No. 12), «ay»
ptei it ** camiot be compared "with any other Ger-
jUiftn dicdonary of late. It costa 8 thalers, or 1/, 4#.
f I do not mention Adelung-'s worka, which were
IjiEiarrelB for their time, bnt have lost much of
I their value since the science of Iftnguages iiaa
made such tremendous progresa* ; but Schwenclt^a
l,<iictio]i&ry well deserves a moment^a attention.
The Wortf^rbiwh der deuUchm S^ache in Be-
wmhmig auf AlMammtrng nnd Be^riffi^hildung^ by
Soar. Schweuck, first made its appearance in'l834
(Rwikfort-on-Main, Sauerlisuider), followed in
1836 by a flecond^ and in lB3b by a third edition.
"^ coat of each iastie was 2f thalera, or 8a In
' there was published a fourth edition ( price
which, if I mistake not, ia the last of this
Iheti there is Heyse's excellent^ but rather
itiquated Handworterhueh d^r deutsehen Bpru^j
imt Miiuicht mif Reeht^ch-eilmng^ AhtUfmrmmg
\mid Bildm^f Biegung und Fiigtmit der Wmiery m
auf dirtm Sinnmrw<md$ehaft (Magdeburg,
HeiDfichshofen), published in parts, the first of
whick appeared in 1641, and the lost in 1849, The
le cost 6 thalera or 18*,
do not know whether Dr. Sanders* large Wor^
tier dmiisiihen S/trache^ mil Behnfen vmi
r hit auf dit Gegentvari (Leipzig, Wigand,
1805, 24 thalers =.U 12*. ), ol which ther*?
I^ppeaind an abridged edition in 18B0 (Leipzig,
I Wigaady 2h thaki's— 7#. M), contains any ety-
Imoloffio&l explanations, but I should think it does,
libr (irisfle prefers it to Grimm*a dictionary, the
principal ingredient of which i^ etymology.
I must wind i4p this dry but nece^^ssry enume-
ctftion by mentioning also W. Hofifmann's big
▼ooabulaiy, entitled Vollitdndigea Jl'mi^buch der
\4euUi^£n JSprachc^ wie ite in der allgem, LOertUur^
der Poefit^ den WiBsensrhaften, KimHen^ u,i,w,
\ffefff- '<^, Tttit Ant/ahe der Ahstmnmung^ der
JBr ' tifff der JFartformm , u.s, il\ ( Jii terbog,
Colilitz, i5->i and following years.) This dic-
^tionary was published in about ^xty parts at 9d.
hm^ H.' TlEDEHAir.
^
• Perhaps the FoaKionKii may find a cheap copy of
I hit ^reat dioiiooAty (Mveral isditiona), or of hi* umaller
[ dictionafr/3r die Antwpracke, Orthograpkie, Biamn^ und
dhhkiu^ Cceverml oditiuni in 1820, ia3o/l&4G, ^cl), which
I; eost originally 3i. and less.
EXTKAORDIKARY LEGEND FROM GAINS-
BURGH.
(4^^ S. vii. 251.)
I send some further correspondence concerning
the angel who ia said to have appeared at Gains-
burgh, cut from the Gaittshitrgh News of March 25
and April L Edwabd Peacock*
Bottesfard Manor, Brigg.
**TnK LftOKNO OF GAIHBBUaOH.
^•Sir^^I have not succeeded in tracing *the legend of
Galnabnrgh/ which has been so larjpely believed tn Jersey
to any 5iire foandatJon. Mr. Sandford'fi letter (enclo
sure I) mav posalWy explain \\a origin, although the
later facts o^that letter are incorrect, since the story wM
current in Mr, Fothergiirs iline, who preceded Mr. Beckett
oa vicir here. Of its currency in 1819 I have sufHoient
evidence in the testimony of a truJttworthy living witnest,
CaplAin Ward, of Cross Street, in this town, who paw
the account fojitened to the door of m church, just under
Portsdown Tlill, a few miles from Portomouttj, twice
during the summer of 181 3, and who with hi^ shipmates
took many cjopies of the paper. Captain Ward aaures
me that there was no foundation for the legend known
at GaiuRburgh at that time, and he believes it to he a
pare inTenHon from beginning to end. I have also had
a curious letter (endojiure 2) put into my hands addressed
to the church wardens of Gaiosbargh, by the church-
wardens of Camborne, in Comwallj enclosing an Eag-
liih copy of the legend, and Inquiring as to its truth,
This letter waa foand amongst the tate Miss Bellamy's
papers, and itA postage in those days appears to have coat
the churchwardens of Gainsbuirgli two shillings and
threepence. The printer^s name attached to the EngUah
account is Byera, 109, Fare Street, Dock, and the aeeoont
tallies with the French account now circulatiiifr, of which
I sent you a translation, except in stating that the ap-
parition was seen on January 10, instead of April 4, in
the year 1819. On the whole, then, I cannot help thinking
tbfflt the story originated in the south-west of England,
where it has' always had it^ home, and that it had no
foundation whatever in any event that happened here.
If the drunken freak spoken of hy Mr. Chapman had
been improved by some fertile brain into an angel \*isi-
tation, and a warning to repentance, the names of the
witnesees would «ureb' have been recognisable as in-
habitants or church omciai^ which is not the Ciiie now.
I enclose copies of the two letters I have mentioned. The
churchwardens' letter has every appearance of being fifty
years old, hut is undated, anil toe postmark upon it cannot
he deciphered with certainty*, — I am, dear sir, yours very
truly, J. Clemeiits.
«TheTlcar«ge, Gainsburgh^ March 18, 187L"
[Enclosure 1.]
••Eldon Vicarage, Sheffield, Alarch 15tb, 1871.
♦* Rev. Mr. Clements.— Rev. Sir,— 1 write to von by the
desire of Mr. William Chapman, 6.5, Oxford Road, Shef-
field, and formerly a member of the choir at Gainsburgh.
Ho wishes me to inform you that the * Angel story ' was
all a hoax, caused hy a drunken man, who had thrown a
rope over the church bell and pulled it by night. He
adds that the Rev. George Beckett was vicar at that time,
Cain Barnes the clerk, and Thomas Farr, or bis son-in-
law, George Bown sexton » and Air. King the Baptist
ministCT, and the mystery was ftdly explained at the time,
I aoDi year faithful servant,
'< Gko. auiDroBo, Vicar of Eldon."
458
NOTES AND QUERIED.
[4«fcs.vii. MATtrr.Ti.
[Eodosure 2*]
**To the Chureliwirdena of Gwn*burgh, — Gentlemen, —
If the enoloicd jiccount lie a fabricilion* dcsig^ned to im-
pose on the public, doubles the printer ought to be pro-
seeuted. If correct, wc shall be glad to see it conflrmed
by a letter to the charchwardcn* of Camborne, CorawalL
Gentlemen, your obedient servaut*. the CiiuucHWAMDBJta
of CamboiikV**
•* We mav mention that the file of the Stamford Mer-
cvty for l*fl9 has been referred to, and that no allusion
to the legend can be found, A c^^tleman well able to
form an opinion on the matter writ«A : * 1 Ibmk it ia very
probable the sheet alleged to have been printed at Lin-
coln may have been printed many miles away. In Iboae
dayi» ** patterers " used to wander from town to town
fK'llin^ calendam of priaonera, and when the calendars
became stale they ^ot country printers to print wonderful
atories, to whieh they contrived to give ewnietimesa local
and sometimes a distant habitation. [ rememtjcra won-
derful story of the kind being printed in Berkshire, and
the dates and plocea were altered, and imprinta invented.
It would be etay to !«ubAtitute Gainaburgh for any other
place, giving either ^ctitioua names, or using names that
may have been known to the printer. I have no doubt
the French broadsheet is the trandatioQ of an English
'*patterer'8 " dodge to get a living/"
"Dear Sir,—! «end you a laiit communication on thts
flubject* It is* plain enoui^h now that Gainsburgh folks
tierer invented and never believed in the mar vellouf fable
which ha« bad such a long lifu in the We^t Count r}%
" I am, your« faitbfullyj
" J, CLKHsarrs.
"The Vicarage, March 27lh, 1871."
** Beckingham, March 25tb, 1871.— Sir.— Hcit no little
surprise to ace in the Gainsbur^h paper the story of the
anirel in the beifr>* of Gaiusburgh church. It "brought
vividly to my memory the same story, of which I saw
an account in 1810. when m^ husband and Mr. Forrest
were churchwardens. Mr. Purley receive*! the printed
paper, and a letter from a /icentlenmn aAkinj^ if it was
true. We both read it, and well knowing it was 'an
entire falsehood,* no notice was taken of it, Mr, Fother-
gillt I think, waa Ytcar of Gatnslmr^b, not Mr. Ring;
and Cain Barnes was the clerk. I liave wished not to
notice the story again^ but seeing it interests many» and
feeling sorry lor any one to believe in what is really false,
I have lieen induced to trouble ymi.-«I am,, sir, yours,
Ac, M. A. FuitLEY. — Rev. J» Clcraenta."
THE LETTER OF"SX» EXPLAINED,
(4«' S. viL 406.)
The letter communicAted by T. P. F. from the
papers of the Duke of Mancheati*r will nppear Texy
enign)flti€Al to inc3«t readers ; but I think, in cod-
eequpnce of aome iDquiriea which I made three or
four yeara ago, I can go ft good way t awards ita
ehictdatjon. It ia written by a person who signs
SX^ to another who is add rested as ** Dear© Essex/'
and in tho sixth lioe *'my lord of Sx'' ia named.
In the eifrbth line mention is made of '* my lord
tDarquifl Hertford/' which places iU date after
June 3, 1640^ when that title waa tirat conferred
on the loyal Earl of Hertford, who in 1000 be-
eame Dulto of Somerset, His contemporary as
Earl of Easex waa the Parliamentarian general,
who died m SepL 14, 164G, leaving no ffocee^*
8or to bis title. Thu3 Uie date of the letter is
limited to the period of little more tHao mx jt§a
between 1040 and 1646. The next qtic#tion '
Who waa the writer? Not, as might bo *i
posed, a Countess of Easex ; but (ae 1 take itfj
lad J who bore Esaex as her baptismal name, i
who also gave the same name to her daugh)
The letter was written (as I believe) hy L
Essex Cheke, the widow of Sir Thomas Ch
and it waa addressed to her daug-hter I:
Counteas of Manchester. Her son who h nd fc
the duel m\i»t hare been Hob* '
her eldest aon, who in the year 1<
claim to the barony of Fitz-W uLU«jr (l^^
Henry Mildmay) in right of his ^n^mdma)
Frances RatclilTe^ but afterwards died withotf
issue. His anta^ronist. Sir Edwani Bajntoo, wm
of Bromham in Wiltshire, and died in 1657 at th»
age of sixty-four. His wound, therefore, was not
fatal.
Her other daughter, from whom Lady Bivex
Cheke was anxious to keep back all tidings of lh«
accident, was Anne (Cheke) I^dy Hich^ wiCi cf
Kobert Lord Rich, afterwards third Eail of Wii»-
wick of that family ; and ** Lesae ** is Lecze ia
Esaex^ the seat of the Earl of Warwick. '* My
Ladj Carlile/' whom the writer had been catef-
tiunmg, I believe to have been Marcraret (Rusn!t\
wife of James Hay, Earl of Carliile ; and ii i«
remarkable that some years after (the £ar^^ >>(
Carlisle dyin^ in 10t30). she became the J^ asd
last wife of the E^rl of Manchester, Eaaex CbeW
having been his thirtl Essex, Countees of 5Un-
cheater, died on Sept 28, 10o8, and waa buritHl m
Kimbolton church on Oct 13* Her mother, t^e
writer of the letter, had died only one iBOaiiA
before her, for she was buried in the same cfaoi^
on Sept. 1 in the same year. An article Is tb
fifth volume of The JJeraid mid GeMolofid,
pp. 444-^455, has for its object to disentaogle tbt
erroneous statements into which several wnttfi
have fallen in regard to " The Mmrriagee of Hobat
Rich, second Earl of Warwick, AdEniral of the
Fleet; of Edward Montague, Lord KimboUea
and second Earl of Manchester; and of Robert
Rich, tifth Earl of Warwick and aeoosid Bail of
Holland." The first-named had three whrea, of
which ladies the second hadtwohusbands^ andtht
third had four. The Earl of Manchester, m I
have already said, had five wives, and tbie« of
them were widows. The fourth was already doi^
ager Countess of Sussex and of Warwt^. idi
was the same lady just now mentioned aa hmpf
altogether the wife of four husbantls. The Pe»*
ages generally are ao deficient in dates ai to
ladies, that I extended my researches for thai
article in order to show how much there ttiO
remains to be done to complete our genealc^cal
histories in that respect The letter prinM n
9.Vn. May 27, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
459
>/*N. & Q." comes in good sequence to exemplify
I the value of such compilntioiia, nnd what a^sist-
imce they may give in the identification and illus-
Pition of histoncal docuTtients,
fc JoUTU GOTTQH NlOHOLS.
Mfty not this letter be from Essex (Christian
pume), third wife of the second Earl of Man-
ehdBter, to her daughter Essex, wife of Lord
Jrwyn ? *' My sonne Ko." and ** your brother
Sto,^ might be Robert Montaarue, the step-son of
Essex, Lady Manchester, nod consequently half-
|»rother of E*?ex, Lady Irwyn. F, S.
I Froome Selvrood.
^^^P BLINK v^irtni WIXK.
^^^ (4** S, viL 325,)
^^K contributor in a late number asserts that to
^tmk means ogling ^ and that to blink at ought to
^ substituted for U^ wink fti. These suggested
Ineaninga I shall attempt to show the words have
Dot, and ought not to have. He proposes to re-
legate wink to the realms of Tulganty. Now, this
Is rtirely bold, seeing that we find its use hallowed
In such passages as the following. Let ua trust
Ihftt the new translators are not of such an opinion,
^d that they will let well alone : —
) **Ani1 the times of this ignoraDce God wlnktd ai**
^pWM^is&wv ^ Bthi), — AcU xviL 30.*
L ** Too may as wpII flprpart out tho unRunn'tl heaps
^^pOr miser's trcAsare by an outlaw^s den,
^H4nd t«ll mc it 16 saK ai bid mo hope
l^^^ajiger wllJ wink nn OpportiiiiHy,
I* And let a isingle helpless maiden pass
Uninjured in this wild surrounding waste.**
Milton^ Comns,
I Shakspeare also has '* winldng-gatcs," i. e. gates
hiosed from fear of danger,
j Now, the primary meaning of jn'nk Is that of the
ixclusioD of light, that of Mink the presence of,
ptid giving out of, light Let as looK at this in *'
f cognate languages :—
Wi5K, A.-S., mncanj nivere, nuere, nictare.
Temi., TFi/ikf a wink, sign ; wmkeUf to wink, sign.
iLtch, wenk^i, to wink, beckon, Swed., vink.
Tlie 1&»t U'amTators cnmhi have written nttrktoked,
Ql thiA I fancy wouhl have lH*»!n unWiomfltic and fitifl;
^uther iias "Ubeniehen; the Swudbili version '* tifver-
tbe Dutch **overge2ien" — all literal equivalents^
jThe old venion of the pastors of Ceueva bfts ** du-
Dfi]^"; tlie Spanish ** disAimulando," while Beza is
bmewhat redtmdant, " tcmporiba^ istios ignorantiie con-
ilveado diaaimulatiA." Now, " conniveo " Is to ufink with
00 **a£] minima tonitraa et fulgara connivere "
etooioa). It has also ineUphorically tlie meaning of
matter, take no notice of; so Cicpro, **ea
o,qaibtisdam in rebus etiam conniveo." " Dis-
tbe selfsame vecondary meaning of to take
of—*, g. in Plftuius, " Diwimnhibo hoa quasi
tn Tidesm." The mcKlem Greek version has vo^-
beck, sign ; vinka^ to wink^ beckon. Johnson has,
to shut the eyes, to exclude the light So w*e lind
such piu?3agey as these : —
*' For he that leinktih when he ^lould see,
A\ wilfidty, God let him never the (thrive)."
*■ For ofte, who that hcde tokc,
Better w it to tt^ynk than to loke/*
Gotoer.
Thus we say, " I never slept a wink/* 1. 1?* never
chned an eye. And so thus : —
"Beeaus** it was night wee staved in the sea, where
wee «nd our shippea were not a little troubled, so that aU
that night none ol us alcpt a winkt, but watdied every
one," — JIacklvjftf Voifagts^
Bldtk. A.S., A/icrtf«jCorruscare,micare. Danish,
hlik, also Itlink^ a gleam, glance ; htinke^ to gleam.
Swed., hlink^ twinkling. Flem-, blinking^ splen-
dour; WiVi/c-irorm, ErlowworrH, Dutch, Wt^, white
of the eye, twinkle, glance, look \ hlikkefif to
glisten; em blink, a clear spot in a cloudy skv — «
e. g. I/M'nk, in the polar seas. Now, ilngiish
to blink has in Dutch, as synonymous, ghiren
(Scotch, to glour), to look steadfastly at; also
ooffrtt^ from which is English to o^hf to look
stt^ndfastly at nnd with some sort of impudently
contorted expression of features. (Lat, limis octiUji
inttieri.) Germ., Blicky look, glance, flash (of
light) ; so in Scotch, blinkil jnilkj such as has been
soured by lightning ; blinkcn^ to glance, shine f
die BUckf^ the brightest parts of a picture. Who
does not know the following ?—
*' Dti Schwert an meiner linken,
Was aoU dein htitret Blinken f
Schsnst mir 90 freundlich an" ;
and further on —
**ftrich tragt cin wackrer Rciter,
Drum A/i«A" icb auch so heiter.
Hill freieu Mannes Wehr.** — Komer.
Jamieson, a beam, ray ; to blink, to open thft
eyes, look with a favourable eye, &c. And so I
close with the following additional OlustratioES :- —
" Than u|>on him «he ke»t up both her C'yne,
And with a blink it oome in till hh thought
That he some time her face before had seen."
Q}mphint of CreMeide.
** Balon, baloo, ray wee wee thing,
0 aaftly close tfey blinking ee."
GaU, Crodle Song,
*' The maid pat on her kirtle brouti ;
She wa« the b rawest in a* the toun j
1 wat on blm she didna gloom.
But blinkit tKinnilie.^'
Muirhind Willie.
'^Now simmer hUidtM on flowery hraca.
And o'er the crystal streamk-t play*;
Come let tis ^'nd the tightnome days
In the birks of Abeifehlv:'*
Bmrm.
JOHK CeAWFOBD.
263, Argyll Street, Glasgow,
460
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«*S.VII,ll4¥*I»TU
The use of t!?ink for hlUk in an unploosantly
suggestible manDer is hj no meaiiB modem. The
pltj ifl that icink has become so narrowed in our
modem ears to its vulg^ar ogling meaning. Here
are two pasaagea from Shake^peAre's VoiUB mid
Adorns (I 00 and 121) :—
" But when her lips were iu*<1v for liia pay.
He tciHki, and toraa bia lipa ciDothcr waf."
"'Art thorn aabamed to kiss ? then wink «£aia»
Aad I win mmk ; to «h&U the day Mem night'**
Adouifi; in fact, cloeea hia ejea from the sight of
her. John Addis.
BRITISH SCYTHE- ARM ED CHARIOTS,
(4^^ S. L 414 ; vii. 05, 240, 332.)
Mr. jERiiajLn^ wl^o maintains in oppoaition
to Mr. TroUope that the ancient Britona used
ecythe- armed coiH«t, appeara to roly priocipally
upon the authority of the work De Situ JJritaniiui^
^ attributed to Kichard of Cirencester. This being
the caae^ it ahould, I thiuk, be noted that grave
doubta exist as to the genuineness of that produc-
tion ; in fact it is now, I bolieTe, very generally
ranked with the pseudo Ingulf. But Buppoae it
to be authentic, what weight can an aaaertion
nutde by a monk in the fourteenth C4intury have
as agamat the negative testimony of Ciesar and
Tadtua ? The truth is, however, that the atate-
ment extracted from the so-cidled Richard of
Cirencester bv Mr. JfiREMua is itself taken from
Pomponiua Mela's work,i)* SUu OrhU (lib. iii. 61,
whicn was most probably written about the middle
or towards the end of the first century. 1 have
not this treatise at band^ so I cannot give the
exact worda of the passage therein relating to
covini^ **falcatis axlbus,'* but I believe that the
parallel passage in the paeudo Richard (lib. i.
c. iii. $ 14) is taken from Mela^ almost if not quite
verbatim : and it is clear that to the testimony of
Mela we owe the ** atereo typed statement" re-
specting British scythe-armei chariots. Whether
or not that statement is correct, I do not pretend
to know^ but it seems reasoiuible to suppose that
Caisar would have told us something about the
comni in question if the Britons of bis day had
used them. He mentions the esacdt^, as everybody
knows, and the confusion they caused — " terrore
equorum et strepitu rotarum ; but surely, if there
had been any chariots armed with scythes, be
would have specihed those formidable weapons aa
sources of terror, rather than, or at all events in
addition to, the horses and the wheels. It does
seem probable, however, that scythe-armed cha-
riot* were used in Britain subsequently to CiEsar's
expedition. As I have said, Mela expressly men-
tions them, and though Tacitus (in Vitd Agric,
§ 13) does not, yet his notice of British war-cha-
riota at aU is so cursory that no argument against
the scythe theory can fairly be drawn from it j
rather the contrary, in fiict, for the chatiots mtt-
tioned by Tacitus were, at all evt^nts, cotuiL I
may add (1) that a passage i i j (Iv. 200^
is quoted in Camden iBrUa^ i* p. x. ei
Gough) to the effect that tlie Britons used cha-
riots in war a$ the Gauls did; and (2) that the
scathed ctwini mentioned by Mela and the psendd
Eichfird after ,him are said to haye been anwid
'* Gallic^.'' Still the whole question ia tayolvid
in doubt, and I venture to think that a bfochioi
upon ancient British war-cliariots by some l..,
plished archaeologist is a literary deilderalum.
W..
Newark.
.A.S^
BTideoil
thiif"
There is a certain amount of negatiye e^
touching the question mooted in the fact
least three interments involving the preseooi d
a buried ** ancient British chariot ** bare been mit
with in Yorkshire. Two of these are noticed ID
Phillips' Yorkshire^ p. 200, with a reference fer
fuller information to the Memoirs of tkt 7mk
Meeting of the Arch, ht*t 1846. TK^ tVxr^ ttsj
discovered by Mr. Kendall of "
tumulus near Cawthoni Camps. [
me, when showing rae the wheel-tirt -
parts of the " find '^ still extant, the v.
action, from the first meeting with the hub wm ■
its extremity to the complete une^nthic^ ofthi \
whole. But the minute examinn/ ; , ^.
tire interment seemed to have rev . .: -
lead to the inference that scythes had «xistel
Tht'^ horse -trappings foimd showed that dmqgfct
from the chest, not the shoulder, of the souiil
horses employed had bet-*n the rule. I ikooU
think Mr. KendiUl would give any inlonnitiai
asked to any '* anxious inquirer.'*
J. 0. AxxsfMA
Danby in Clevtland.
THE COMPLETION OF ST. PAUL'a
(4«>' S. yi. pnmm ; vii. 185, S41^ ^14, 3d0, 451)
I am very glad that the few remaxka wludk I
made upon this contemplated work has bn>Q|tll
forwiird so distinguiahea an Mohitooiiuii weOm
as Mk. Jambs FKBorssotr to expkui wtaam fd^
than has been hitherto known to the pub&soi
proceedings of the committee in refereoce to tMl
great undertaking, and the defijtite amuiftilitft*
which are to be carried out
Mk. Fbrgusson disclaims any aatharify £poa
tbe committee for the explanatians whieh ha te
given, but no doubt he expreasea in a great wm
sure the opinions of his ooUeaguos, thoQ^^I
venture to think there are some of ll
would not altogether endorse his vieiiik
cuss all the points raiied by Mit. Fbm
proper length would take up too much spbib h'
i«*s*vn. MAT27,itl
NOTES AND QUERIES.
461
yottr TnUiable columns, I muBt therefore confine
inv-" ui 9 brief replies.
'[' J to the p^isition of the organ, in the
teeth ni ^uch accumulated authority as the
** UBBLimcfua opinion of twelve of the most emi-
nent mimical men in England/' it aeema preaumn-
tuotia to auggoat that any other arrangement could
have been adopted, seeing that the instrument is
to be aTaUable for the services in the present
choir aa well as for those under the dome ; but I
can hardly think Me. FEROtrssoy to be serious
when he would make us believe that an organ to
be aa powerful aa any organ in Eogland, even if
the two halves project only five feet on either
aidej can be so placed as not to obstruct the view
'*in any appreciable manner from any person stand-
ing on tne floor of the church. My humble
opinion ia so utterly opposed to Mb. Fe&gusso^'s
idea about the organs so placed being *^ just what
U wanted to furnish the choir arch/^ that I muat
decline to follow him in that argument. It seema
to me, as it does to many otberS} that it will
gllpUj caar the ordutecturaL elfect of that part of
^^fci* FBBHtTMON next mentions the plan pro-
poeed in the iSucrUft/^ which suggests the eroctioa
of an altar with steps^ baldachino^ and all proper
accompaniments under the arch leading to the
choir, and dismisses it in a summary manner as
the production of men who have no idea of scale,
and incapable of judging of the effect of their
scheme it realised.
I think Mti. Fergussqn is in this matter utterly
mbti^en. 1 have not the pleasure of knowing
the author of the plan so carefully studied and
df»wn to scale in the Sacristy: but as I know
something of drawing, and fancy I understand a
plan, I have no hesitation in saying that a most
eJE&ctive design might be produced upon the lines
of that plan, aod 1 can scarcely imngine a more
beautiful position for a well-designed baldachino,
crowning an altar properly raised, and surrounded
by all the necessary arrangements tmder the thattcel
arch (not under the dome), thus giving dignity
to the sanctuary, and that prominence which it
entirely lacks in its present low position in the
«»aartem Apse. I would not pass so poor a com-
pliment upon the accomplisned professional ad-
viser to the Dean and Chapter as to suppose that
hi incapable of forming such an artistic grouping
^"^ essential features as would be intinitely
^ to ** furnishing the choir arch '' with any
ftHliOtmt of organ pipes.
The great diHiculty which seems to present itself
to Mm, ¥zb,bjjbbon'& mind is, that there will be
aippareiitly two churches under one roof. 1 think
lie attaches too much importance to this idea.
ViitUAlty thiMia the casein some of our cathedrals
md *t>bey churches at present, and unless we are
diflpOied to destroy some of the most interesting
features of our old buildings, these arrangements
must remain* Mb. Feboussoit aak^, when one
part of the Cathedral ia to be used and when the
other .^
Surely the daily services (when moderate num-
bers only attend) can take place in the present
choir as usuaX and for Sundays and other special
services additional to the great Festivals of the
Church, the aisle, choir, transept, and nave would
most suitably hold the vast congregations that
might assemble.
In calling attention to the plan g^ven in the
Sacridy^ I had no intention oi defending all its
details ; poBsibly the scheme might be improved*
The subject is not without its difficulties ; but in
spite of Me. Feroussox's strictures, I, in common
with many others, hesitate in thinkiDg that the
pronosals as set forth by him are the best that can
te a e vised. I see no inconsistency in my remarks
ab out Westminster Ab bey. The plans of St . Pa ul ^s
and Westminster Abbey are so unlike, that dif-
ferent treatments in each building are necessary*
As you will receive other communications upon
this intertjsjting subject, I will occupy no furtuer
space. Benjamis Ferret*
THE BOOKWORM-
(4*** S. vi. 527 J vii. 05, 168, 262, 340.)
In looking over some old gentleman's diaries in
my possession I came acrosi* the following reply
to a query on this subject propounded ia 18^3,
viz: —
** The bookworm is a small white silver-fihlmng iiucct,
or moth, mach found amongat books and papers, and is
supposed to be that which eats boles through the loaves
ttod covew* Ii» head U bi^ and blunt, and its body
taper-; fmm it towards the toil srasller and sniAlkr ; the
body is divided into fourtooii sflvcrul partitiouH, haviDg
the appearanco of ao mtmy shell** and mch of these parts
14 agaia covered over with a multitudo of thin trans-
parent Acale«, whichi from the niultipticity of their rc-
llcctjng aurfac«A, make tlie whole aaimal appear of a
pt-irfect peiiirl colour. Thii^ insect is famished on either
^ide of it8 hcnd with a duster of e^«s» and each of these
elustera is bfcM3t with a row of small bristles murh like
the (iha or hairs on the eyelid »«, and perliaps tbey sorv'o
for the samo purpose* It has ten loog horns curiously
ribbed or knotted, having at aadi nob small hairs or
bristles, here and there dispersed among them ; besides
thes« it bos two shorter homs or feelers, which are knotted
and fnngedjiko the former. It has three tails, iu every
re^tpoct rosembliog the two lon/ETcr horns on the head.
The lirgs of it are scaled and haired just like tbc other
parts of its body. The body is beset with small pointed
bristles like spears. Dr* Hook aaja this anima] probably
feeds on the paper and leaves of books, and perforates
small holes in them. To prenrent the depredations of
this little animal, books should be frequently aln)d^ and
if some strong smelling herbs, soch as roe, wormwood,
irc^ rusflia leather shavings, or a small piece of camphor,
be put among them, it wili tend greatly to ^c^Mi»:H^
them»"
Anolhet coties^oti^exil «st^a *»—
4€2
NOTES AND QUERIES*
[4»^S/Vn.MAT37,'Jl
** The hest and only sccnri tr ngamst bookworraa ii to
mix mineral italts [which all 'insects abhor] in the paste
nflcd by the binders."
Charles Pettet.
Hammemnkh.
Pnrnell'a poem on the "Bookworm'^ waa no
doubt suggested bv the lines of Theodore Beza,
but he hiis introduued intobiaparaphraso so maoy
allusioDB to other matters^ tliat the original ia
almost entirely lost sight of. pAmell is much
more ind<?bted to the fertility of his own imagina-
tion than to Bezft, The following is the poem
referred to : —
♦* Thmdori Beztt Tinea ;
Ad MuMOX tiniic aacrijtcium tudicruni,
** Si rogat Oreremqae Libenmique
Yltjo BolJicitita sam coIobuh;
SI Havnrti4 opem petit cruentus
Milea, sollicitn* suie salutb^
Quidoir Calliope, tibi tuisque
Jare sacra fcrBra, quibua |>lacere
Eat uuum fitutlium mibf^ omnibuaciae
Qui vatutn h tiumero volant haben ?
Vobts ergo fereeJa »acra ; Miipkj ;
Sed qujD victima grata ? qtiffi Camocnis
Dtcata hoKtia ? parcite, u Camoenie ;
Nova hoBc vi(!tima, scd futura vobi9
SaaviSi arbitror, admodamque grata.
Accede^ 6 Tint^ii, ilia qufc puhillo
Ventrem corpore tarn ^ria voracetn.
Tene Pieridum aggredi minlttroa?
Tcne anrodcw tarn aacroa taborea ?
Nee factum mthi denc^ga. Ecce furtl
Tui cxerapla, tiuL': tt voracitatii.
Penc tu mihi paKstrcm CatulU,
Peno tu mibi Ltsbiam ab^tulisti.
Nunc oertc mens ille Martiali.H
I ma ad viscera rosas usque languet,
Irao et ipse Maro^ cui pepemt,
Justo Civsare fticjubentp, flamma»
Liesus deni<? tuo, Bcelexta, languct.
Quid dicam innumeros fcn^ne eraditos^
Quorum tu monument a, tu lal>orea
I«to poasimo ventre dcvoriati?
Prodi, jam tutiicam relinque^ prodi.l
Yah 1 ut callida .fitringit ipsa wese !
Ut mortem simulati scsele^ta prodi.
Pro tot criminlbua datum pcDnaa.
Age, iiitum jugulo tuf» cruento
Mucronem exeipe, et L^tum et istum>
Vide ut nalpitatp ut cruore largo
Aias poll ait hnc profkna sacraa.
At ▼OS, Pieridea, boneqae Mnsro,
Nunc gandetfi i jacet Urn interempta,
Jauet aacrilega ilia, quic solebat
Sacros Pieridum vorare servos j
Hanc vero tunicam, has dico, Camoena*,
Yobis BXuviaj, at hine tropaeom
Pamaito m medio locetb et sit
Hoc iaacriptio ; de fertL latere mta
Beza dat apoUa base opmia Musis."
Cork.
R. C.
The f<^ll owing extract seems to me worthy of a
place ftmoDgftt the Tarious mMs which the cor-
respondents of " N, & Q.*' have furnished on this
interesting topic. I take it from Thomas l>e(
cey'a Autoi/ictf/raphiv SJceCrkcv^ chap, vi, : —
"That librnrj' of 120,000 volumes, which Gtot^ I
presented to the UAtion, and firhich has since g«ne tai^
the collection at the firitish Museum* had bcro fetn
(as 1 was often aastired by persons to whom th« nbalt
history of the libran% and ita growth from ftroall roifi*
mentfC was familiarly known) under the direct pcnooal
auperiDtendence of George II L It was a favouriti and
pet ereationj and hU care even extended to the i
of the l)Ooka in approprinte bindings, and (a* f
told nie) to their health : exphtining himsielf {
that in any caie where n book wai worm-^aten.of
however »lie;htly with the worm, the king was ;
to prevent the tujurA* from cxtcndinir. or from iafet
orhers by < b'*e neighbotirhood ; for it Ist uppoaad by mm^
that 6«ch injuries spread rapidly ia favourabla fitaatieaR.
ScmrsTTs or Christmas Pjecbs (4«* S. ri,
Tii, ]4o, 201^ 351,)— Seeing that your
dent Mr. Shaw mentions my father*a ^_
(p. 14*j;, Dean and Munday, " as publisher ^
aenpdiL««, I thoughta few facts from persdiiil bm-
niory and knowledge might interest 3 ouf nttdoi.
As B youngster some thirty -five years ago ta mf
father's establishment, the sale of *' achoof pieoei^^
or ** Chmtmas pieces," as they were called^ ni
not scripsitfi, waa very lar^ ; ray father publWW
Bome thirty diflerent subjects (a new one tniT
year, one of the old ones being let ^o out of pilBt).
There were also three other publishers of tlMO.
The order to print used to average about ftfl
hundred of each kind, but double of the Life of iW
Saviour. Most of the Bubjecta were t' ' ■ ^
Old Teatament. I only recollect i^ --
not sacred. Printing at bome» we getn rmty c>ai-
raenced the printing in August from the eO'PJ■^
plates, as they had to be coloured by hand. Vbff
sold retail at sixpence each^ and we iiaed to «p-
ply them to the trade at thirty shillings per gni^
and to schoola at three shillings aiMl sixpeaee ptf
dozen ^ or two dozen for six shillinga and uxpeoOk
Charity boys were large purchasers of theoe pIiOM^
and at Christmas time used to take tbem tQioA
their parish to show, and at the same tim<» dohdl
a trifle. The sale never be^^an before Octaiv^ ta *
the country, and December m London ; ar
iti January the stock left used to be put i
the following season. It is over fifteen yeiir? swift >
any were printed by my firm, and the last Btr
one 1 find was done in lithography-
S. A. H. Dean^ of'Defui and S«^
successors of Dean and M uDdsf.
SrUKBY G-OBOLPHIK (4*^** S. viL 3t)4.)— '
person of this name for whom TV. D, C. ^
IB probably the son of John Godolphin, Jud
the Admiralty, who waa nephew of Sir Will
Oodolphin, the grandfather of the Lord £
Treasurer, He was bom 1651, and was a oola
in the army and governor of the island ^^f Sc"
He married Snsan^ daughter of lUese Tannat i
4'«»8.VII. May27,*71J
NOTES AND QUERIES.
A^»TUnnat, Salop, Eao., hy whom he had several
cLrldbr^n; and wtia prni>abiy ftiive in 1704, \s'hen
' Ati daborate pedigree of the fainily was entered in
tht' Heralds' College, Ip this, however, the date
of birth <nf the Lord Treasurer is not ^veu, but
hh monument states that he was aged sixtj-
seven at his de^th on Sept. 15, 1712. G. K A.
WoRCBSTKK Arms (4*'» S. vii, 410.) — If Mr,
r* M>K had paid the visit he promised to a
shire antiquary he might have obtained
a cme to some of the names he is hunting for,
P,
" Barok ** Nicholson : Joh2? Dalbyhplk (4^''
S, vii. 2>^>,) — ^ Amongst the chief contributora to
The Tow tit Mr. Bates mentions *' the clever^ hut
prntiiifatc John Dalrymple/* To whom does this
refer ? I particularly hope Mr, Bates will reply
to this inquiry. t>i Quis.
"Heart of HEARxrs] ^' (4*'' S. vii. 362,)^I
am quite unable to reply to LonD CETKtjtfsFOBJD'a
inquiry as to what has led to the universal ex-
pression of ** Heart of hearts " in the plural. I
€«0 only satisfy him by quoting an oid authority
far a lady who appears to me, contrary to his
expectations, to have been in possession of two
hearts.
In that RTaceful sonnet which ha.^ been attri-
buted to Sir Walter Raleigh, claimed by Lord
Chesterfield^ but vmtten by the Earl of Pem-
broke, who died in 1G30, he addresses Christiana,
daughter of Lord Bruce of Kiiilos, thus—
** Wrong not^ dear emt>rca9 of my heflrt,
The merit* of troe i^aaaion,
With thinking th&t he fecla no smart
Who aues for do con)pa.«ision.*'
Having thus disposed of his heart to his ** Platonic
mistress;" as many others have done under similar
eucumstances^ the aonuet concludes thus —
•• Then wrong not^ dear ITmrt of mi/ Ifeartf
My trtie thouj^h secret pnsnion ;
He smarteLh maat that bides bis bmartt
And 9uea for no compABiion.'^
R. B. S.
" L ronx op Lights '* {4'»» S. vii. 300.)— J, H. B.'fl
Cliticistm on No. 137 in HymfU Ancient and Modern j
** Light of LighU ! with moniiog ahioe/*
and
•* Light of LighU ! when falls tho even,"
is gPoandleAs. He says, —
** One. would think the composer of the hymn had never
■een the Nk'<>weCr«ed either in ii reek or Engliah, for there
#^t in ^iar6sf and ** Li^ht of Light/' convey a vcrj'
difTervnt meattlng from that given by the plural of the
hyiDQ."
Of course they do, and for this very suiiiclent
iQiaon, that the author of the hvum intended his
ward£ in a diiFerent meaning, the Creed; in ^C^s
iK (^ar^^f, IS Speaking of the second person in the
Trinity; whereas the hymn is addressed to the
Trinity in Unity. The author may be supposed
to have had in his mind Oen. i. 10, ** And God
made two frreat lights,'' of which Ho is himself
the light; Psalm cxxxvi. 7, [0 give thanks] **to
Him that made sreat lights, for his mercy en-
dureth for ever* ; and James i, 17, ** Cometh
down from the Father of lights.'' Mr. Ain'ger
aptly asks on the same page,
"Quls em«adabit ipsos emendatorea ?"
KY.
*' The Wind has a LAKatJAQE," etc." (4*** S. vii*
30o.)— In the absence of infoxmatioBi of a more
definite kimi^ it may interest Mb. Gantillon to
know even this little, that the lines appeared in a
magnzine more than forty years ago; and thfit
the first four, vividly impressed upon my boyish
mind, and clinging with bur^Iite tenacity to
memoryi ran thus: —
** The wind has a language I would I could leam ;
Sometimes 'tia soothing, and isnmetjmea *tia stem ;
And ^omf^timcs it cooies like a low sweet song*
And all things grow calm as tht; strain t1oat« along.*'
Of the remaining lines I have too imperfect a
remembrance to venture attempting to give them.
I do not rempmher the author's name, if indeed
it was appended to the lines, nor the magazine in
which they appeared. J. L.
SnEERwoRT (4^'» S. vi. 502; vii, 26, 151/244,
332.)— I hope F. C. IL (a Murithian) will not
think me hypercritical, but I do not fancy the
Anthk Itolmna would be u^ed in saiads, even by
gypsies. Was his plant the Cardamine htrmfaf
My own notion is, that the plant we call Ame-
rican cress (Barharea pr€tco,v), may have been
the sheer wort of old writers, hut 1 have no proof
of this. Aruhis Italinna was certainly never cul-
tivated, and I find sheerwort in a catalogue of
" sallad herbs " dated 1088, In my very numer-
ous liit«i I hare no plant so called, except AHer
Tnpoliunu Could F. C. H. send me a scrap of his
plant ? James Brittex.
Koyal Herhannm, Kew.
Treveris' **Gretb Herball** (4i»* S. vii. 102,
2t>S, 335.)— H. C. does not quote Parkinson's
Index correctly, or he would see that his ** Son-
chus'' and '^Asparagus,'* although in the same
line, have separate references, and are quite dif-
ferent things. My copy reads: " Palatium lef}orUf
l, Stmchus Icpiis vulffaru^ 807. C/pmlpino^ i. Aitpa-
rttffm vfdparts** — which is indexed in its place
under A. There is no doubt that our sowthistle
is the *' hare's palace" of moat authors; but it
does not seem to be that of Treveris.
I subjoin my address, and sliall bo very glad to
correspond with H. C, I suspect w© shall find
that the Orim Softittdu was the aource from which
464
JIOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*fcS.VILMAY2?^71*l
both tbe Orete HerhaU And Onmt H«rhi$r were
compiled. My edition (1526) b&s cats.
Jame^j BRiiTEir, F.L.8.
SoyKl UcTbariuiD, Kinr.
Memorial Versss ox thx NumrKit of Day*
xjr THE Months (4'** S. vii. 386.) — It may interest
Mb. Lofttr to hare his attention directed to
Brae*s edition of Chaucer « Treatise on the Astro*
labe, published last year, wherein he will find at
p. 25 tbe foUowiDg note : —
" It is worthy of remark that St«rvioa here Inaertj, by
way of UJiifitrating the text, tboac well-known linea:
' TEirtie dAL4 hskth September/ &c Adding *Lo» venea of
the nomber of tbe dais in ye Kalendac/ '*
In his introduction to the Treatise Mr. Bme
concluijively dhows that tbe MS. of Stevina, here
spoken of, must have been written about the year
1555. So that here are the Terses, not only at a
much earlier date than even Mk. Lofttb ha§ dis-
covered, but, to judnre firom tbe one line quoted,
n version of them much nearer to that we are
habituated to at the present day, J, P»
The OLDirgT Inks in Englajj d (4»^ S. vi. 505 ;
vii. 267, 3S4.)^ThQ legend current in the neigh-
bourhood is thatj in one of the chambers of the
ancient inn at Norton St. Philips, Somerset, the
Duke of Monmouth slept the night before the
battle of Sedgemoor. Should any of your readers
wish for a pbotograpb of this inn, f can supply
them, and the procoeda will be given to a useful
charity. Ella.
Bath.
The Phcentx Thbohe : Btkon (4»'» S, vii. 162,
208, 401.)— What groimd has P. P. for supposing
that in the verse he has quoted Byron intended
any reference to the phoemx P To me the mean-
ing appears to be simply and plainly, that in the
desert — ^tbe wide waste — the solitude of his life,
there was still one fountain springing, one tree,
one bird singing — these all typifying his sister
Augfusta^ to whom the lines were addressed.
G. J. De WlLBK.
English Versification (4*^ S. vii. SfK).) —
The moat copious rulc3 and instructions for English
versitication will bo found in the Art of Enffiuh
Poetrtf^ by Bys^she^ lirst published in 1702* It
treats of the structure of English verses, of their
several kinda, and of tbe due observation of accent
and pause j and contains niles cc^nducing^ to tbe
beauty of our versification. It has chapters on
elialoiifl and Thyme, and a dictionary of rhymes,
followed by a very ample collection of passages
from tbe best English poet«4, with the subjects
arranged in alphabetical order. I\ C. H.
ROSEMAKY rSED AT FrNERALS (4**' S. Vii. 206,
348.) — I remember, many year.^ ngo^ being once
at a funeral in North Lancashire of a distin-
guished officer in the Order of Odd Fellows, when,
a little before the procession moved from the
house, A basket oontaining rosetnarj was brought
in ; from which each gii^ took a sprig, cazrud
it with him to ^e grave, and deposited it m
the coffin.
The custom of iistng roseomry at fananils ii
thus explained by muxdhj on Commom iViaytf r—
*' To express their hopes that their frieod is Dot lort
for ever, each person in tUe company n^uAlly boan la bii
liADd a 9png of Tv$rmary ; a eostom wbieb seent labile
taken its rise from a proctice among tbe hf ihwMt of ■
quite diHerent import. For they, baviof;^ no thoagtuta of •
future resurrection, but believing^ that the bodies of thett
that were dead woiild for ever lie in tbe grayfv matk at
of cyprtu at their funerahi ; which is a tree thac. b^
onot) oat, never revtvea, bat dies away. Bat CM^In^
on the other side, having better hopes, and knowisf Hit
this vcTT body of their friend, which they art aovfA^
solemnly to commit to the grave, shall ocig dijr ila
n^oin and be rennite^l to Iiis soaU intUiad of qrfn^it^^
tribute rmemaiy to the company, wbioh (being ata^
green and douriBhing tbe more for bein^ ^i^^P^ **^ ^
which a sprig only t^ing set in tbe groond inu S|f9al
up immediately and branch into a tree) Is monfrnptf
to express tbis'oonfldenco and tmst.^*
It would appear that the early colonisli 4
America had taken with them this old eutaBi
Dr. Coxe, the Bishop of New York. aUodiM ••
the practice in his beautiful poem, The ObrdCi
DmtglUcr, Although, as he aays in a Qota^hiS bn
taken a quaint licence with the botanical nsintflf
the flower, rosemary {RosemlLrimU) i —
" Then roSefS pule and Tem-marmt,
She scatters o'er tbe Tn^rVirrv .in*f .
And at the last heartrefi
Aa earth takes back ii '■. rust.*'
Milnrow. Jamus P£JLBSdl«
Geokoe Edwards, a.d. 1545 (4*»* S. tH, 388L}-
The name of this gentleman appears a« one of tbi
twenty-two veomen of the chamber of *' the cfffi-
nary of the Clueen*a side which hava tbsir tSff^
ance of wages, without any meaie ccr Boucli d
Court, *^ and he, as well as each of hia ooUeigM^
received 15/. 4«, 2rf. per annum {Ordinantm of Ik
R^lfal Ilottsehold, p. 170), This informaf^
given in the ** Ordinaooes made at Elthani
xviith year of King Henry VIII." ; but whue iii»'
year was 15^5-6, any person who will read th*
liHts of muue,¥ there given with any alb
will see that they must have been kept <
to a much later period : for they contain till
which were not conferred until quite the < '
tbe king*s reign. To instance two : ** The
of Hertforcl, Lord Great Chamberlyn/* af^e
tbe Protector Somerset, was created ear) OeL 1
15;t7; while the title of "The Lc»rd
AdroiralV' dates only from March 12, 1642.
mention of George fid wards occurs in tbe P
Purse Accounts of Henry 'N'^UI., nor in tbt .
land or Trevelyan Papers.
Becket's Murdekeks (4»*> S. vH. SX
268, 395,)— One of the Hugh d^ "
tioned had no son^ but two dai
'8.VU. May-C,';!.]
iJOTES AND QUEKIES.
heirs — Adama, married to Ricbard de Lucy and
Thomas de Multon^ and Joan, wife of Ricbard de
Gernon of Essax. De Geraon waa pardooed a
debt of 250 marks owed to the king lor the in-
heritasce of Hugli de Morville. wlioee daughter
he bad married. {Jlo(. Fm. 15 Joh., Feb. L)
Hermentrude,
Thb ScBOOLMASTirR Adboai» w Staffoed-
srrnus (4'^ S. tiI 121, 180, 311, 874.)^Moohlakd
Lad tella of the sucJdiDg' of a *' bull-pup '* by a
pitman's wife. Such iiursmg is not unique, as he
eeetDS to think, Mrs. Piozxi, somewhere in her
Autobiagrnphif or LeUcra (ray note is incomplete),
speaks of the suckling' of lap-dogs by humnu wet^
n iretet) as a common pnictice at Nifples; and re-
fers to ft picture she has seen of a woman suckling
a cat John ABDia.
Rnsito^rton, near Littloliamptcm, Sussex.
Bmhop Mobdecai Cart (4''* S. vii. 234, 37G.)
K, 1»YM0ND will find, if be refers to my recent
contjibuLion (4^ S. vii. 137), that the Rev.
Henry Francis Gary married Jane, daughter of
James (not John) Ormsby, E*q., of Sandymount,
near Dublin ; ana also that his mother was Plen*
rietta, daughter of Theophiliis Brocas, D.D., Dean
of Killala. His son, the Kev. Henry Gary, M.A.,
of Worcester College, Oxford (not mentioned in
tba p^gree), was the author of the Mtnioir to
wliicn I referred, and in which may be found, as
ooe nught expect, many biographical details.
Abhba.
Wht does a n^wly HORN Child cry? (4*'» S.
TiL 211, iiSO, 394.)^If the quotation nmde by
Mb* Morkis (p. 374) is perfectly reliable, it tends
to throw mocn light on the mature (as well as
on the infantile) pronunciation of the period. We
may certainly conclude that the first letter of the
JSnglish alphabet was then pronounced as A in
ifMDi, can, kc. — a fashion whicn is still retained in
aome old plttC4?.«i.
There is p« rhaps more difficulty about the pro-
mmciailon of the second vowel E. It is by Mr.
Mo&Ris's authority made to rhyme with the verb
bff and to p^ive the tone to the very ancient desig-
antioii of Eoe, Perhaps a pbUosonhical accoucheur
or obeetvant monthly nurse coula teli us whether
liie incipient cry of a young ladv most resembles
m shrill EE or a broader AY or £H ; but we may
gnejis, without such initiation into the mysteries
of the sick chamber.
"We have no reason to believe that the verb he
haa always been pronounced in its present shrill
or insignificant way. In modem poetry it seldom
or never forma the final syllable of heroic lines, as
it did often in that of Spenser. And the name
Mve was probably in old times a word of two syl-
lables, of which the first resembled the initial
scmtid in E valine or Evanj^eline or EIRe Deans.
These q^ueationfl afi'ect the history of languages
very intimately in their progress and decay* We
require, however, a proper scale of sounds even to
discourse of them. Might I again sugeest the
natural scale otlbred (4*'* S. v, 545} as a basis for
such speculations, and which I have ventured to
repeat here : —
EE, AY I ,^jj'^ j^^ QQ^ 00.
LiTEBA.
Sm Join^ PowBLL (l*\ 2-^ 4J*» 8. passinK^—
When found not^ make a note of it, I have oe-
forc me the JUofjraphicfd Didionart/ of Eminent
TFelchmcn, by the Rev, Robert Williams, M.A.
(London, Longmans, 1852), in which I cannot
find the name of this upnght judge and Welsh-
man.
I see, however, that your first query was pub-
lished OB March 12, 1863, and I find in the CltTf^
Lid that the reverend author of the dictionary is
still liviD^ ; therefore I venture to hope that he
baa already made a note of the judge^s name, to
grace some pages of addenda to his origmal work.
Geo. E. Frere.
Samflers (4*" S. vi. 600 J >^i, 21, 120, 220, 273,
331.) — About fifty years ago I was shown a kind
of sampler at Bactou, Herefordshire, in the church
there, of exquisite work, but unfortunntely 1 ttiok
no note of it. I should be very much pleased if
any lady or gentleman in that neighbourhood
would describe it, I think I was told that it waa
worked by Bbuiehe Parry, chief gentlewoman to
Queen Elizabeth, and who died 1590. PeiliapB
ati older sampler than this does not exist.
F. C. P.
Two Passages ih " TmoH ow Atimjns *' (4**^ S,
vi. 43, 164, 259, 356, 445; rii, 850.)— Professor
Elze will, I trust, pardon my pointing out that
the question is not whether the word mucic might
be used for useless treasure, but whether Shak-
apeare has used that word in the passage above
referred to, from Act IV. Sc, 3. The received text
follows the first folio; Herr Elze suggests a
speculative emendation. Now I do protest most
earnestly against all such merely speculative
emendations. Show a fault in the text, and many,
perhaps too many, are ready to come forward and
correct it— and welcome. But here is no fault,
for the text reads as grammatically correct. If,
as the Here suggests, a faulty compositor bad
placed much wheii^ShakapeaTe wrote muck^ which
I do not admit, we have this further difiiculty of
the additional substitution of fneM for me to con-
tend with. Such double inadvertence, thus con-
joined, is against all we know of the doctrine of
chances. We are dealing with a question of pK^
babilities only, imd the odds are against the fmum
tbeonr. It may be sdd that the printer, haviiif
blundered over the word much inadvertently, hi^^
substituted meat for m0 deajgnedly, to make-fti
I
I
466
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4** S. VII. Mat 7,
false sense. It won^t do ; ftnd for the following
reasnnft: — ► 1. A coin p<>8i tor, having made a slip
inndvm'tentUjt would, aa a matter of course, pass it
iiaooticed- 2. If noticed by coiupoaitori reader, or
editor^ there was the *^ copy'' to refer to, by which
means the original error could bo corrected, in-
stead of needlessly piling Pelion upon Osaa by
making a second.
Shakspearo should be respected in his grave :
" Good freml, for Jesua* Mke forbears/'
lest we fall under the consequent ban —
** . , . carat be he v« moves my bonea,"
A. IL
The Aoctden'ts Compensation Bill (4^^ S. vii.
2B0, 373.)— As a fellow-sufferer through Lord
Catupbeirs shortcomiufs &9 a judge, I con fully
sympathise with Clarrt» He ib, liowever, niis-
talten in his censure of the hiilxctihis of which
LoRB Lyttelton claims the parentage. The act
was a moat just one, though extravagant damages
have, DO doubt, been recovered under it. But the
cases of fraud upon companies to which Clares
refers, and wliicii are no doubt rife enough, are
connected with actions brought at common law
by persons who aUt?ge themselves to be injured,
and have nothing to do with the statute in
question. C. G. ProwktTp
Garrick Club,
In such statements as that at a railway accident
500 porsons wor« in the train, and that the com-
pany compensated tSOO, exact are preferable to
round numbers. Will Clarbt oblige me with
them, and also the authority on which he relies ?
Aa no one was killed at the accident which cost
the Brighton Railway 74,0OC)/., Lord Campbeira
act intlicted no hardship in that case.
Railway companies are subject to frauds bv
perwns who pretend to have been injured. Stifl
more so are insurance offices by those who set
their houses on lire, and I believe all great e^tab*
Ushmenta are much cheated, against which there
is no protection but vigilance. I have been pre-
sent at many trials, and do not think that the
tendency of juries is to give excessive damages in
railway cases. On the contrary, they are disposed
to take too pecuniary a view, and calculate what
a man has lost by the interruption of business and
the doctnr*8 bills, and what he is disqualified from
earning by temporary or permanent injuries —
leaving personal suilerings almost out of their
consideration.
I was a rather close observer of Lord Camp-
bell's career from 1828 to his death, and espe-
cially so of liis conduct on the bench, and I wish
to ofier my opinion, in which I believe nearly the
whole profession will concur, that he waa a veiy
great lawyer, and at nisi prim an eminently fair
and patient judge.
I bave nothing to say in Lord CampbellV
favour as a biographer or a lejrislator, ll« knew
what was good, and unscrupulously apprt>prijilM
it. I believe Lord LytteltoxV bill to b« ikd
most valuable of all hLs appropriations, and one
which would have done honour to botVi had Itii
vabity allowed him to say where be got it
An Ixnku TEiLrLAR. ,
Capriciotts Wbat (4»»» S. vii. 259, 87iV^
Perhaps some of your reader* may not ^
b^cnrae acquainted with the French
which the one you have reprinted, M
the present volume of '^ N. & Q.," ia *
translation. It is possible that the t i>?ocn j-*
(TeJipni may be an imitation or tranalation fn^m
the Spanish : —
** Doris, qui salt qu*aux v«ri qadqoeibia Je m« pliil,
life demoode un aonnet^ ct je m'ca d^bespere.
Qufttorz« vera, jcrand Diea ! Ip mayea de leff flirt?
Ell voilil cependant M]h, quatre ile fails.
" Je ne pouviuA d'abord trouver dc rime ; mtii
En fiil^Aiit on npprend Jk sc tirer d'affaire.
Pourstuivona ; les quatrains ne m^AonQeroat gQ*r^
Si dti precDier tercet je pais faire le» fraia.
** Je commenc€ au hasard, et si je ne xn*abtis^
Jc n*ai pas comiaeoc^^ sans I'aveu de ma moit ;
pQisquV'tt «i pea de temps je m'ca tire ai net.
'" J'cntarao lo second, et ma jo'te c»t extreme \
Car des vers commandes j'8cbt*ve le treifidmf ;
Couiptez a'Us sont qnatorze, et voilil le sonneL"
Uuernse^'.
W. D. B, asks who was thus indicjited in a cer-
tain sonnet which he imperfectly r
reply, E. A. D. (p. 372), after n
w,* of Dadsley*8 Collection become?
Elqimd i?j/r«ci«, suggest-* that " Capri
may have been Daniel Wray, the arci
II. P. D. is more positive ; he says (p-
teller of the i... v., -i^.
Surely W.» (whetb€
** Wray " or not) was a lady. Men do not write
vers demciHe of this kind to one another To
play with the caprice of a pretty woman, sad
write her a sonnet, is natural enough ; bu^ flw
could not flirt with a deputy-teller of the Ex-
chequer*
The name Wray is not uncommon, and m
doubt there have been several ladies of that nasi
quite worthy of a sonnet. E. A. D. qurjt»» fro*
a copy of Dodsley's CoUection^ dated 177'' ''
copy of vol. ii. is the third edition, publi-^
17oL When was the sonnet first prints ■
the Aiunml Eegi&ter for 1770 I find
death of the ** relict of Sir Jobn Wr*T, ^
Would the sonnet fit her ? Jatd
Meaning op « Foo " (4«> S. vii. 96, 216* :
My indistinct writbg has led your piixtter into I
error in my remarks on the e^mology ot/off^^
The common explanation of the word wluch itns*
gers are sure to ask, is^ that it is a ^omiptioa of
was Daniel Wray, deputy-
fr*jm 1745 to 1782,"
4«^S,TU. May 27/71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES-
467
fodJerer (not 'pofhlerfr)^ or tbe man who fodders
the cattle. But tbia cban^e of two ff$ into two ds
will hiirdlv do» Fotjg*^ la^ I do not doubt, a
regular derivative from fofj^ in the sense attributed
by 3-our correspondent to the latter word.
The Soctter km> his Sow (4*'' S. vii. :^61.) —
It is scarcely correct to say that the*e linea have
b^en forgotten* They have been preserved by
C. K. Sharpe in one of his collections (reprinted
in Four Books of Chm'ce Old BtUltid»y p, 3l5* Ste-
xtsavmf Bdin. 1868) ; and in an Edinburgh journal
cif date Nov. 14, 1868, a correepondent iaqiiires
after the remaining ver&es not yet recovered,
giving at the same time the stanza preceding
ihiOae quoted by G. : —
** There was a soatar ind a sow,
7\xft l£c-re«rtr- arwin,
An' For her blrae he k««ed her toon,
Tim^ci-recnV-arii m ,"
Sharpe'e copy is more exactly like the version I
have heard in Forfarshire. ** Tantara, tantara "
was a favourite biirdf a at the bef,niining' of the
eeventeentb century, W, F. (2.)
South Ilook, Eilmnmock.
The Chevron (4'^* S- vii, 408.)— S. P. asks a
Terv odd question. I think I may venture to
po«iively assert that no ** heraldic authority "
exists for the belief in question. It is simply ab-
surd. H. S. G.
Is the belief such ad S, P. states it to be ? I
bad always understood that tbe cockle ahells or
piilmers^ drin king-cups, such as appear on the
gjins of the Bernards, Villiers, and Russelk, were
the Crusaders* emblemfi.
IlENTir F. Poxso?rBT.
Rebvey or Herrby (4^*^ S. vii. 142.)— The
Bible concordance in my possession is aigned
'* Tliine in the Lord, Robert F. Hein/f'^ aa exa-
ndJied under magnified power.
Georoe Wads worth.
304, Oxford Street, Manchester.
The '* PLAi?r Dealer *' (4^»' S. vii. 30L)— It is
MBgular that Mr. Fhiswell should have ascribed
tbe authorship of ihe Plain Dealer to Coo^eve,
aod that G. F. S. E. (p. 370) should have indorsed
that opinion. It is of course by ^Villiaui Wycher-
R.J.G.
9^iv, Geobgr Moore (4*'" S. vii. 76.)— He was a
hflrorif t. See Burke^s Rdinct Baroitetaf/e under
*• Moor, of MaydV Jlorton." In Lijtscomhe's
HUtonf of Bfwkifvjhautahire^ vol. iii. p. 41, be is
mtftitioned as an intimate friend of Titus Oatea,
and his coat of arms u ffiven as "On a fess 3 fleurs-
dc*lyii between m mullets."
X E. jACKSoy, Hon, Canon of Bristol.
Ldgh Dckiiicre, Chippenhara.
GoRSE (4^ S. vii. 323, 379.) — In a small
volume on the Lanffuage of Fiotcertt^ published by
James Williams, London, 1844, I lind anger a**
the emblematical meaning attached to "whin,"
which ia eynonymous with gor»fi. This is cer-
tainly y^xy appropriate, and will, I hope, be satis-
factory to the fair inquirer. J, Mw,
St. Bees.
NOTES ON BOOKS. ETC.
A Memoir of iMnid Madhe, TLA. By W. Juitin
0'Dri«eoIl/M.R.LA., Barri«ier-at-Law. (Loognuius.)
Mr. O'l^nscoll has the firet ea»nti(i] qualification for a
biographer — a thorough admiration of the subject of bis
labourij^; he has, too, the advantage of having known
Maclbe from hi» boyhood tohis^mvp, but as he modestly
conf«i8.M«8, h<* has been long unaccaatomed to liter&iy
work, wlnle it is obviou» ho do<y» not poaaess that know-
ledge of art, without which no nifla can possibly produce a
satis factory life of a f^retit artist. As a mere record nf
the leading ineidenU in the artbfs luneventful Ufe-^a Ufa
marked Alike by an hnnotirable spirit of ludependenctir
and an earnest determination to excel— and a& a record*
too, of the order in which he pfodaced tbe noble works
which established his reputation^ the work h not without
present interest. By far the most valuable portion of
the Isook consists of MacHse'a letters to his friend^ Mr.
John Forster, which that gentleman moft libcrallT placed
at Mr. O'DriscolVi service. Thc-^e^ which are geniftl and
pleaaant, with an admirable letter from the Prince Con*
ftont, give life to the book, aud increase ihe value which it
will iLnquejtionably be found to posaesa for the future
biographer of Daniel Madi«e,
Our Baths and JVrlU, The Mineral TFatcrs nf the
British Islands^ with a List of Sen-Bathing Places. By <
John MfflcPheraon, M.l>., Innpector-tieneral of Hos-
pital H.M, Bengal Army (Retired). Arc. (Macmll-
Ian).
This well-timed little volume gives the results of thet
aathor'a visits to the health resorts of Great Britain and
Ireland, made for the purpose fjf comparing them with
all the chief foreign ones; and it fofma therefore not only
a volume of practical use to tho«e who for reasons of their
own prefer or are compelled, to avail themselves of our
native balneological reaoarce^, but also a meana of com-
paring those resources with th^ Baths and W^h i*f
Ettmpe as deseribe^l in Dr. Macpherson's fonner work so
entitled. The reputation which that little work enjoya
as A most useful and discriminating guides will, we have
i no doubt, be »hared by the intelligent tittle volume be-
fore us.
Books nacKtVED.— \Vc must content ourselves, for
obvious reasons, with recording the appearance of the fol-
lowing : — Ftttdom in thf Church of Engtnnd. Six Seruums
syfjfft'sted b{f the Vo^svy Judgment. Jig the llev. Stoplori \
A, Broftke. f Henry S. Kini;).—7'he Juritdictitmmul Mis-
Kton tfthe Anpfican EpiscvfHite. By the Rcv.T. J* Baiiey* \
B,A, (Parker). — The Engltih Btble^ and our Duty tedh (
regard to it, A Plea for Reeiiion. Btf Tliomos Kingj^miR i
Abbott. M.A, (Hotiges, Foster, &"Co.).— .4 C<iUihquA\
of A nylo-Saron^ and other Antiquiiiem^ bet/ueathed btf iVd"
i\am OibbSf Esq.^ to the South Kensington Mujteffm. Cmn-
mled 6v C. Roach Smith, F.^A. (Chapman & HaJL)—
The ftutboritk'S of South Kt^nsitigton deserve credit for
I having w»pured the service* of Mr. Roach Smith to turn
to good accotiut Mr. Gibbs'a patriotic benu«t.
4fi8
A GnAKD DniLL Rkvikv^* orgmnifod 1^ tbe Society
of Aria, of four thousand boya, with their bandfl, wiU be
held br Oia Itoyal Highne** Prince Arthur in the Royal
Uortieoltural (j&rdens on Wednwdflv, June 14. Adrait-
tatire to the Gardens only, one shilling. A masical
peTformflnce by the boys in the Royal Albert Hall will
take place afUr the Review. Subscriptions in aid of the
co&t of conveyinj^ the boys by railway* and providing
them with refreshments, will be receiTcd by the Secretary
of the Society of Arta.
A BooitSKLLER of the old school, George May, died in
tho Charterhouso on May 13, aged sixty-eight, UHiile
in buidneu. in 1815, he wrote and publiiahed a descriptive
HiAtory of the Town of Evesham, where he resided* He
subsequently went to America ; but not being auooenful
be retynied^ and, like many oLherN found a resting-place
in thue house founded by XLomaa Sutton.
« Who wm Will, ray Lord of LQicester*s jeiKting
Player?*' was a question raiiied by the tate Mr. Bruoef
who inclined to the opinion that Will Kemp was the
man. Accordinp to Th^ Atkeiucum, Mr, HaUiwell has
discovered in the private account- book of the Earl of
L«ic88ten preaervwl in the Longbridge Collection in
Wtnrickihife, confinnation of the accuracy of Mr. Unico's
judgment. Perhnps further researches* may Rhow that
the BOgj^tion, that Shakespeare also served with Leicea-
ter In the Low Gotmtrtes, is equally well founded,
Mff. J. IL HKagKLS, a Dutch fjcntloman^ well known
for bis acquaintance with early printiitl books, hi cng;agcd
in makiuj^ a translation into i.n^li.sh of Dr. Van der
Linde's work, entitled ** De Itaarlemscho Costcr-Legende.V
Oliver Cromwkli/s Ho usk.— Workmen have beesi
employed Uj demoliJ^h the dne old largo retl-hrick man-
sion on Briicton Rise, which, according: to repute^ was
once occupied by Oliver Cromwell, This i« the last ape-
cimen in the locality. The property has been purchased
bj the London Tramway Company.
SiTBSCiiiPTioTfB are invited by Messrs. BarcUy
Bxothcw for 20,000 fully paid-up shares in the South
Aurora Silver Mining Company, the prke of issue to the
inventing public being 10/. per share, payable bv instal-
ments* extending over to the Iflt Aujjruj'tnext. The mine
!£ situated in tJbe Nevada district^ and haii been worked
with very sMitisfactory rcBults, one dividend of 20 per cent*
having been paid in February last, while a furiber quar-
ierlv dividend at the same rate has just been announced
payable on the 1st proximo. These shart^ now oLTered
were lately owned by the vendors of the mine, who ac-
cepted them in part payment of the purchase monev,
Ono sail ■ tiure in the terms of the circular pub-
lished I - tuit^ will participate in the dividend
to be pa. - _, .:._ L.jj;inniug of next month.
NOTES A:N^D QUEEIE&
Soticfjf t0 Cartful] anUrtittf.
G. O, W.— W« cmmot trace any ttuch article ; ptrhapi
iktmatierwai imiroduced incideHtally into a juineron Mome
otktr ttAJecL JTiere have hten no omtuiom Jrom any rr-
prints. Did the writer Mt^H Ait name f
T. E. G,— What M the title of the book ?
M. E. B, — Sir Ilugli Smithstm, who had married a
daughter of the Duke af Somenti, tticteeded hU father-in-
leoB {under a Kfteci<d limitation in the patent) om JBartm
Warkwarth and Ettrl of Northuml/eriand, He WiU not
tnnnhled hecauue he was a pl^yncian.
F. T,— On ** 3Iad as a hatter;* get •• N. & Q." 3'^ S. ▼
24, 6i, 126.
, H. M, (Tralcc,) — Pleane rr ,»<,■,* th, 'wnny,
C, W,^7W artitUt on ! f «$■ a
t^peartd in ** N* & Q.'* l*^ ^ mJQ,
P. (Lutikttow.) — Om horK'iaujfkt w
our 3'*> S, xL 242.
A, O. V. I*, ^ Saint Sundnp, alias SaUi D&mimi^A
been noticed in our 2^^ S. vi, 132, 216.
W. IL S. unit find at p. 44S that Uaek'tJfftd <
papgr date* at mrty t« ltJH3.
Richard BAittttKoTox, — We do not t
received t/our L*ommumcution,
ERRATtTiT.— 4"» S. vii. p. 433. ooL lins S4» ^ifa *•«(•
before **HadolpUiia,'»
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
CONTENTS,— N^ 179.
Arms of CriBijinus, Shtkcapcfcro't or Mw-
^ Hel» KDd Kictiona ftbout th« DuJce of Buck-
n't Mcytber, Ih.— Memory, 471 — Rotcoo'a ** Life of
m EoMoe " — Gloocestersbire Polk Lore — " Pfcddy,
gBt O'Ralferty " — " The IriRh Colours foldad," by
fP. Walsh — ** Bitwniia ipsis Hibernlorea " — Popu-
etbod of Observing Eclij^ucs — Proverb — Hood's
n» to Mr. Cross " — ImiWitionii of the Old B«llad:
forte Arthur** — Laal D«y§ of George IV,— Memo-
Iblota at St. B«net"s, Paul's Wlmrf— Straaburgh Li-
^ Ls E6publique — A. Coiucidenco, 471 .
I: — AnonyraoDs— What is r Barrow P—Brod<?rick
-LcttfflT of Oliver CroiDWell — St. Edward the
„ J" sad the Ring— Etch hi ff a— Ford Abbey Ssto—
at Greek snd Romnn Literature— Looptb of HoJr
PQ »ud Woinou — Our Lidy of llolyweU — Military
on — "The New ^lonthly " — Northartiptonstilre
I — •• OoDiered " or " Umered *' — E<jbortand ThDiuae
W — Passiofi Plays— PUca PoK Mica — Dan l-c Etis-
I Picture of Lad)* Greensloeves— Deatractiou of Sur-
bui cbc'b. 1068 — Taaffe Family, 474.
*: — Hsir Growing after Death, 476 — Tlie CIc-
amily, Ac, 477- Date of Chaucer's Birth, 478 —
cviated to T.» 47d— Dedtcatioii of Cburcbca, 4S0
HDirea de Casanova," /j&. — Dimrainia — Ohitfuons
n — Old Fanulies: KniKbtN of Charlea I.. 1030 —
D^ of Villaoova — Etymolog-y of " Ward" as a
no— The Memory cf SmelU —A Cromwell
I —War Medal* — " In the Straw " — " The
" Ac. — Charms for Ague — Mezaotintu
bite Tower of Londnu — Suraamea of
-Hemldio ~ Gates, Isle of Man, ko., 481.
Books, Ao.
B OF crasriNi:^, shakespeaee's
on MARSTON'S ?
I HsLSBx'a communication at p. 118 has
me of a note I commenoed some bix
ago. Thfit Grispinuja in the Poeitvster is
imdi^:meed, or io tKe flimsiest of db-
s «s certain n^ tliat Capt. Theca i» stut-
apt. HaDnam, Utimotrius the dresser of
cker, and the Horace of the Saiiro^MaMtLv^
drefia, get up, luid in all hispeculiantieai
n himself. Deckor, in bia retort, ac-
uamesof I)emetriufl tmd Cmpinu^ both
' Murston, and put their likenesses
But the author of the axtide
s Ijuarrel with Shake^^Mne/* in
the NoHh IhiluJi Review (Julv 1870)
" much imagination — while allowing
lus is in the main Mar&ton, thinks ** It
evident that the person from whom
borrowed the incident of the arms wiis
or in other words, that Jonson
ing Shakespeare and Shi^espeaie^s preten>
w gentility* He has^ howeyer. given no
ble opinion for this, and in truth if proof
it is not, that Crispin us ia Mar-
ical dascription of his arms would
[ecieive.
iom Jonson attacked in his Poetaster ^
the ozUj one of gentle blood. X'artij
therefore the better to mark him out, partly be-
cause Marston seems to have been fond of parading
it, and partly perhaps because Jonson would ex-
hibit Jum as a sorry specimen of his class, his
gentility is brought forward, frequently, promi-
nently, and diatinctively. On the occatoon in
question Crispinus, having asserted it, says: —
»Ytm abaU see mine arms if*t pleaae yoa . . . mis-
treaa, for I bear ihem about me, to bavo *era seen ; mv
name is Criepinui or Cn-apinas indeed ; which is well
exprest in my arras, — a face crying, in chief; and be-
neath it a bboiij* toe between three thorns puogeiit."
Now thia latter part is merely a grotesque^
description of the true armaT of Marston — a feaie
ermine between three fleurs-de-lis argent As,
however, it would have been too perilous in those
days of old gentility to ridicule too closely or
markedly an honoured heraldic device, Jonson,
with vidoufily spiteful malice^ added in chief *^ a
face crjnng," and in so doing managed to mark
out his opponent more distinctively. It may have
been suggested to him by the long melancholy
face of the greyhound which is, I believe, the
Marston crest ; but it was an addition which
became as it were a new and pergonal grant to
the holder in recognition of histglorioua achieve-
ment, in that he, the upholder of the honour of
an old coat, had taken^ like Decker, a public
beating.
*^ Or if (tranitported by any aadden or dsBpemte reso-
lution) you do [malign, Craduct, or detract the person or
writings of Q. llor. Flaccu*] ; tbat then ^*m *hatt not
under the LaUoon^ or in the next prejenc*", lifin^ aa
hoDourablc assembly of his favouren, Ae brought m
voluMary pfnticmen to nn^crt&ke the forswearing of it."
(Oflth administerett, Poetatt. v. 3.)
The ^tire of the whole oath and of the connter-
oath in Satiro-Mastur is, that they swear not to
repeat certain acts and incidents. ' We leam also
from DruDimond that Jonson once beat Marston.
B. Nicholson.
facts axd ficti0x8 about the duke of
buckingham:s mother.
The old iitory about the mother of the first
Duke of Buckingham having l)een a Mtchen-maid^
and of her descent frum the Beau m on t'^ of Cole-
ortoQ being an invention of tlio heralds, having
been recently revived by a popular writer, it may
be worth while to ask how the case really stands.
Here is the story in its origbal shape from
Coke's Detectian : —
»* Mary Beaumont was entertained in Sir George VU-
liera hifl' family, in a mean offiiic of the kitchen, but her
ragged habit could not shade the beauttfull aod excelleat
fVamc of her person, which Sir George taking notiee of,
prevailed with his lady to remove Mary oat of the kitdhta
toto an oflice in ber cbamber, which, with some impoitD*
nity on Sir George's part, and UDwiUingaees of my lai|^,
at last was doae.^
470
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[l^kS-VII. JuxkS,*
Lady VilUers, Coke goes on to eay, died soon
After, upon which Sir Georgo married her maid.
Roger Coke 'a authority for the affairs of the
Teign of Jamea L does not stand very high. In this
instance, however, he gives his authority — one of
Sir Edward Coke's daughters by hia first iiiar-
liage, who may have been well informed, but who
waa certainly prejudiced against the Villierses
from the oppoaitiom which sprang up between
Coke's party and the favourite.
Very difierent ia the account pven in i
grees of the two familiea of \illief8 12
mont, as given in Nichols's Leicestmhif^^
744, the important parts of which aro
lows ; —
Richard Clerke, Eaq.
William Beaumaot, Esq., of Colaortoo, d 1529.
Sod hQ»b. Witliam Yilliers,
ofBrookiby.
» CoktU »
I I
Eldest son.
Ut litub. Rtehard BeaamoDt^ Esq.
of Coleortoo, d. July % 1385.
Seventh son.
Anthony Deamnout, of <
Sir G. Villier*, of BrookAby,
Iktber of the Duko of Buckiugham.
I I
Xit'bolas Beaumont Esq., Mary Beaumont, mother of
of Coleorton, d. J uly 9, li%o, the Duke of Backinghain.
Sir Henry Beaumont, Knt, d* March 31, 1607.
According to this genealogy, therefore, Sir
George Villiera of TJrookab^, the futher of the
duke, was half-brother to Nicholas Beaumont of
Coleorton ; and that so much at least of the pedi-
gree 18 true there can be little doubt, for in a
deed dated Augr4, 1570, eight yeara before hia
first wife's death, which ia recited in his own in-
quimtion p, vu (Chaftc. Inq. 4 Jamea I., Part ir.
No. 74), he leaves the manor of Goadby to his
then wife Audrey for her life, and after lier death
to Nicholaa Beaumont, Esq., and liis heirs,
Ijet U9 now see what external testimony there
18 for Mary Beaumont having been one of the
Beaumonta of Coleorton.
Sir H. Wotton, a first-rate authority (Bel.
Wot i. 208), states expressly that she waa *' daugh-
ter to Anthony Beaumont of Coleorton, Es^.," thua
differing from the pedigree only in ^vmg the
qualification from the abode of hia family instead
of from hia own. Goodman (i. 265) says ** ahe
was descended of the Beaumont?, as ancient a
family m hW {L e. the duke'a) *^ father.^*
Wilson (Keymetf ii. 690), whose leaninga would
be against the duke, apeali of the marria^ in the
following way : —
*• For the old man coming to Coleorton 111 Ijeicester-
ibira to visit a kinswotnaij, the Lady Beaumont, foand
a young gentlewoman of that name ilUed and yet a scr-
Tant to the lady, wbo being of a bandaome presence,
took his alTectioDs, and be married her."
This in all probability is the true account of
the matter. The Lady Beaumont mentioned wag
the wife of Sir Ilonry, who, by the half blood,
was Sir George Villierses nephew. Mary Beau-
mont,* poor cousini was in the household, according
to the custom of the time^ as a waiting gentle-
woman, just as Margaret Dakins, successively
married by the brother of the Earl of Essex, the
brother of Sir Philip Sidney, and Sir Thomas
Hoby— without any idea of disparagement — was
waiting gentlewoman to the Countess of Huntifl
ton. Even Weldon, who ia scarcely evcT to
truated, and who says that the duke'a mother ^
of a ** mean '* fiuuily^ calls her " a waiting
tlewoman." The story, therefore, of Mary "
mont having been a Mtchen-maid in Sir G¥9§f
Villiers's own house may be left to K, CokeV ona
authority, which, alight enough in itself, is ibai^
lutely worthless in the fiice of the concnnvBl
testimonies given above.
Another point, which has been made the inMl
of by biographers who write for effect, hi the old
ago of Sir George Villiera at his marrlag' V
doubt in this they have Wilson *8 authon;
still, as Sir George lived some seventeen or ♦ip.*
teen years after liis second marriage, they mifii
have remembered that he could bflHU 1, mV.^ i»-^
so very old. But, in point of fac
on his father (KvcA. Inq. 3 & 4 1_. „. ^ _
I^ic.** No. 6) states that he was lourteeQ j«ki
and more on Nov, 3^ 1501. Ages Ln inqui-if i o^sEiif
not always be quite accurately given
five him seventeen years in Iwl, we cm •
im more than forty-three in 1587, wheo
wife died. The date of his second _
uncertain, but as his second son was born in
be cannot have remained long a widower*
Again, Lady Villiera is said to bar© "
in great straits for money ; flo that,
Sir Simonds D'Ewes, he first came to
worn-out clothes. As, however, she had
than 360 acres of land with her houae at
{Chanc. Inq. 4 James I. Part 11. No, 74),
part of the story may be dismiased at
though im she had ouly a life intere?«t
land) she may have lived savingly with . .,
occasions less important than her soo^a pnsadili
tion at court
Fmaliy, what is the truth about bet ..
nage ? The name of her second htiabaail |
S.TIL Junk 3, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
471
iowe, not in all of the pedigTeea, is Sir W.
ner. It appears, however, from the ioquisi-
into hia death (^Chtvir. Inq. 5 Jamea L Part ii.
160) that he died Nov. 2, l«30t5, and this
li little tirae, though the objectipn ia not an
perable one, for a marriage with Lady Vil-
1^ whoae husband died onlj in the preceding
nary. Nor is there any mention of his leav-
i widow, either in the inquisition or in the will
ed Oct, 27, ICOC) recited in it. Farther : in a
of tenants in capite in Leicestershire, given in
bols's Leicextn'H/iire (i. rjcxxiii.), Goadhy ia a*-
ed to ** Maria Villiera/' The list waa made
906, and corrected by one the date of which
lot be earlier than Slay 22, ICIl. If, theri>-
I the correctiona were carefully made, this
■^overthrow the marriage altogether, aud I
^B the whole, ioclined to disheliere in it
HRirther evidence can be adduced,
Wk me conclude with a query — What was the
\ of the marriage with Sir Thomas Corapton ?
derson implies that it took place before young
iers became a courtier. Sanderson ia not a high
lority, hut if his atatement is true it is cer-
that the 8tep«son of a brother of Lord Comp-
would find his way much fimoother before
. than one who was merely the son of the
»of a country knight.
S, R. Gabuinbe.
MEMORY,
W St. Louis Jownal of Sjtectdalive Phitosopht/
JmSfiinxji 1871, containa an account of a person
teiied of a moet extraordinary memory, Mr.
liel McCartney, a labouring man, which baa
a thua condensed by a Cincinnati newspaper ; —
llr, McCartney -was bora in Westmoreland county*
Dcylvanii. Sept«(nber 10, 1817, and ta nearly bliud'
pn read the lAigeat priat only by holding it within
JDcbea of his e>*ea. Hia niemory ia exceedingly^ re-
tT« and minute^ and be claims tliat b« can r«collcct
inreiitfl of ev&ry day since Janntrj' 1, 1827, when he
atKMit nine years and a balfold. He never kept any
■d of occurrences, and Kub no svBtem of mnemonica* "
JbiesuunioAtion by D« W. I^enkle« commisaioner of
lie scboob in Ohio, showed that McCtrtner's ns^cr-
liTES tme. Mr. Henkle baa a jonmnl with bim which
^tdid the event* of forty-five yeara past, and found
IMcCartney^a anawers tallii^d witb the records of the
If. Hia questions lelati^d to tbe day of the week, tbc
|J of tho weatbeTt and occurrences coming under
fC^n«y'« obftenration. In reply to an interrogatorv-
jKgartl't^ Octobers, 1828, McCartney in two aecoutU
pi 'Wednesday, It was cloud>\ and drizzled rain.
Irtied dinner to my father where he waa getting in
i»
Qnegtiont * February 21, 1829?* Answer in two
ttiUi: * Saturday. It was cloud}^ in tbe morning and
I" in the afternoon; there was a little snow on tbe
icitt. An nnde, who lived near, aold a horse be^ist
day for jfilib: Question : * October 13, 1851 ? ' Aa-
'» after iift^^un feconda: *Mimday. It was kinder
i^^nt-Uko weather. I staid all night Sunday night at
my brother*a, and next day I went to the depot ia Card-
in gtOD to saw wood.* Question : " May 8, 184*3 ? ' An-
swer» in two aecoudA : ♦ Friday. It rained some. The
Sflturday before I attended a quarterly ineetinp; in Iberia."
(He is a MeLbodtst^ t^nestion : * July Ifi, ISOflV An-
swer, instantly i * Monday. A very hot day. I aawed
wood that day, and the next day went out into the
Country to hoe potatoes/ Tbe sanie accuracy and faci-
lity wafl shown in respect to many other datea^ 3onie con-
nected with important public events, and others having
no such association.
"McCartney likewise ihowed wonderful qnkkncss in
mathematics. Bdag aaked to multiply 32 by 45, he
roEurned a correct anfwer in two ficcunds, doing the sum
* in his head," multJplyinfir firrt by five and then by four.
In the same w^ay he multiplied 9\] by 97 in twelve seconds,
84 by 53 in e'ight secondss, 456 by 123 in thirty-five
tiewnds, and 182 by 8,756 in four and a half niinutca j
becoming crmfusedf bowerer, io the last attempt. He
displayed a good knowledge of geoi»^raphy.
*' On subsequent occasions Mr. Henkle again examined
him ns to datea and in cubic root His accuracy and
powers of computation were as manifest as on former
trials. HIa spelling wsm found to be rather faulty, but
he knew something of German by hearing neighbours
speak it. McCartney is certainly a curioaity, and de-
Bcrvc* the attention uf those learned in psychology and
tbe collateral sdencea/'
Bar-Pohtt.
Philadelphia,
Roscob's " Life of William Ro&coe,"— Per-
mit me to point out one or two inaccuraciea in
the remarka in this work which relate to the sale
of Roscoe's splendid coUection of hooks. In
chap, xiv. p. 105 (ed. 1833), the bio^pher statea
that " ft copy of the Mappretentaxiont Sncte which
had cost him (W. Roscoe) a few shillinga sold
for thirty guineas." And later on in the Bame
chapter/'* the splendid manuscript of the Bible
was purchased for the sum of two hundred
guineas/* Both of theae Btatements are in them-
8elve«l aligbtly inaccurate: the Mappre^entazioni
Sacre having been »oId for 321 0.-?. Grf., whilst the
price paid for lot 1810, BiUia Sacra^ utrumque
TeMamentum^'whh 178/. 10^. These figures I have
ascertained by referring to a copy which 1 possess
of the catalogue of the sale, in which the prices
at which the various lots were sold have been
neatly appended in ink. I picked up this* relic
of Roscoe at an old bookstall in Liverpool^ and
from tbe autograph it bears^ it would appear to
have been at one time in the noftaession of the
late Rev. Br. Rafflt^s, who resided at Liverpool
for a number of years. Whilst on this matter
I may mention that the church in wldch Roscoe
waa married— namely* St. Ann's^ Liverpool, is
shortly to be pulled* down, probably in a week
or two, for town improvenieDta. Eff*
Gloucestershire Folk Lore.— Talking with
one of the villagers lately about a sudden death
which occurred here lost Friday night, she said
that she knew that there would be a death in
472
the YiUiige ; there alwaja was one hefore a menih
wa$ out after mi open grave on a Su^idaf/, A graye
wi» dug OQ Saturday, March 25, for the mter-
mont on Monday raomiii}^ of another pftrifihioncr,
who hud alao dit»d rather sutiflenly.
Might not the mjsixTj of the blue signs m
GranthAiu be revealed by ascertaining tho Diiko
of KutlAnd^s election-colours P
Datid BoTct:.
Netherswell Vioange, Stow-on- Wold.
"Paddy, ob Peggt, O'RAjfrEBTY." — In tho
Lodmi Own Jottnial for January 21, 1871, occurs
tho following' note : —
'* Iq answer to an inquinr of jour correspondent
* J. H. K./ in your ' Notes ajidQut^nes'toIuran, regard-
ing Uoj^'a aong eatitkd * Paddy O'RafTcrtv,' I infonneti
him in your iiutnbei of the Ladki Jonmal of d(^h July
]A8t, Umt 1 had heard Hogg say that tliis song was never
printed, ag he had merely composed it to sing btm«eir. la
your Journal of Stnt alt. a correspondent — I snppone the
same, but whose initials are printed ' J. H. R.* — again re*
fesw to thlBaong, and aoHdts any of your coDtributors to
j^nt him a copy of it. He alao says— I suppose in refer-
enoo to my anawer to Ms first oommunication— ' He (that
h Hogg) WAS heard to say that he wottld never print it,
but keep it to sing himself; but this may have bucn a
bit of hi9 accustomed bombaat,* Hog^ hai now been in
hia grave for thirty-live years, and has Itft hi.* racmorY
in charge to his countrymen^ expecting it would he eafe
in their keeping, and I'mufih regret to see *J. U, R/s'
remarkf written, 1 hope, without thoughts As I can
hardly think *■ J. H. IL' wonld exhibit so much anxiety
to poeacAs the songs of the Ettrick She^iberd auleas ho
was auimate^l with nomo friundly fE?eling towards his
Tnfimorj\ will he excuse me — who ought to have known
bim well — when I mr that ho wa5 not a talker of bom-
bast, and, moreover, 1 bad the most implicit confidence
that he would not state as a fact that whiuh he knew was
not true. It ia very probable, however, that * PatUly
0*Kaflerty* may have been taken down from Hogg's
singing and printed; indeed, I am almost certain tbat I
have seen it in print, but I cannot recollect wtiem.
• "J. H."'
Are J. H. K., J. H, R., and J, IT. RulBciently
conversant with the thenio thoy are diacui*sing?
The song '* Peggy O'llafferty," which 1 presume
the corpe.«ipODdents unconflcioualy have in view^
was composed by Robert Tanimbill, and is in-
cluded in every edition of his worka. On this the
Ettrick Shepherd may have written a pnrodj^, and
being a parody, ha would of course not pnnt it.
Will not this solution satlsty the question ?
Charles Roqkrs, LL.IX
flmowdoun TillHf Lewisham, S.E.
"The Ibish Colours folded/' tit Fatrer
PUTKR Walsh, — It is rather surprising that Mr,
Prendergast did not examine the library of the
Royal Irisli Academy for the /m/* Colour b folded
of Fathtr Peter Walsh ; for there he could have
foimd it among the books of his deceased friend,
Mr, Chiifies Haliday, which he has so well de-
Bcribed in the preface to hia CVomicellian SetUe--
ment. They are now catalogued and classified in
A nmnsjer that does credit to this noble institution,
NOTES AND QUERIES
I
»letit iai49 J
so that every work amoi^f the man^ tiiot^nidi
Mr. Hididay's pom ^ii eta is acoeaaibla —=**—'
moment's delay, 1 speak as a
gone there this day to look for tke
tion and found it at once.
Dublin, Apm 2 i. 187 L
^* HiBERNIS rrsIH HlDBSNTOBBI." — lUi^ l>
KoXov 'AXKiBtdSov 2jiTi/pof tfrropQif K4yefm (f«9^!
^koXkoiv Beu^iof, * . . . bw4pr\pf S^ leoi Tiyr t^
oif/NiTo^-otffeur. — AtheniEi Deipnotoph, 12, 47.
This sentence hoB been attnbuted to CHali
Cambrensis. C* P. L
PopiTLAn Method op OBSKBvxifG £icui«au-»
Ibis, as far back as I can remember, ttied to tekf
looking at the reflection in a tul> of water. I«^
tulliau mentions the very sam^ custom in Ml
treatise, Ad Natione*^ ii- vL : ^^
** Jam majora ejus (luna) detrtmettta soletit ia m^
specok* oonaideraR*. Jpae etiam sol
tattts estt"
'^ Nothing new under the siui.
E]>Mi7X]i Tew,
Peoverb. — " From clogs to clogs is otnly
generations/' A Lancashire proverb, in^lilf
that, however rich a poor man may eveaUiil^
become, his great-grandson will certainly lall bud
to poverty and ** clogs*** * M. H
HooD^s "Adi>re9s to Mb, Cross,"— la tb*
lament which the poet pours forth on dui dtftfa
of the elephant Chunee^ speaking of Um \m d
great pubhc clmractera, he expreii^eQa lumffilf m
follows : —
" ! should not wholly
Despair for *ix montlis of another C * * , ♦ *
Nor though F lay on his amali Wrr
Be melancholy.
But when will sucb on elephant appear? **
In a note appended to this paaaage in thettt-
lected works of Hood, edited \pf aiB son ill
daughter, C , , . is identified wHh the K«v. ^
Crofy, but F . . . . remains undidooTored. I
lieve the choract^ir indicated to be Sir Tl»(
Fowell Buxton, the celebrated philanthtu^itAi
brewer, who died Feb. 19, 1845, "*
Imitations of the Old Ballad : **!*¥: Ma
Arthub," — In The Athenctum of May '20 I b^<
some observations in which I beiirtily \
to the carelesa licence in wliich editors
they term old ballads eoostantly indn
serting passages obviouily added i
hands, without warning the readr*r of
tioua character ; but I am not Aure of
neaa of an instance which the wni*;r aii^'^'^^*
one of the *'Morie Arthur" balladft ooeon^J
following line —
'• The Duke, all shent with tikili I
iJM.
4*fc8.VILJL3fK4r,7lO
NOTES AND QUERIES.
473
The writ fir ffi?o« good rouson for rej^arding this
OB I' t'cy's^ but proceeds to call it ** » line
ifH] an old ballad.** and the addition of a
'^mudtTu bidkd-monger." Is thia so 'f The bUhop
#vidently "cribbed'* it from *'The Heir of Linne *' —
** Sorely »hont with tbli rtjbuke.
Sorely &faeut was the IlMir of Lmoe."
*' The Heir of Linne/' like mof^t ballads of re-
Eiite, is, we may presume, a pie<?e of patchwork;
ut I hare always been in the habit of regarding
tltia Bs an old patch.
Few perhaps duly appreciate the genuine ring'
of an authenticated "ballad, and fewer can imitate
it. Bums tried repeatedly, and all-imbu«d with
tile old rhYtninf^r spirit as he was, cotdd neTer
keep it up beyood a stanza or two. Scott (if my
own instinct does not deceive me) never suc-
oeeded but once, and that is in old ElCT>eth*8 frag-
ment of A chauut on the ** Battle of rlarlaw'* in
Tilr Anltqumy, If that be not without a flaw^ I
.lit leist am at a loss to au]jgest it.
Jean IE Teothteub*
Last Days of Geokge IV. — The following
bit of cottrt goaaip may serve as an illustration
of pitat times :— *
•* I i,H„., .,„» ...r ,....: f:,.^ f,^o, ^y iq day/* says Lndy
B» " I ry, ** expecting each would be
liw ^ lifo. But to thp joy nf his
^Sikt:
be, h.
iof
two opiniofi'^.^ t ierrjcy that it is water. Sir Henry Hol-
!aii<i Titgf h U I fhmn. However^ Ma 1**^^ frnvr* lir^n
*ciiri L Violent MpasTin*
uR, I u$t (tie. H<} has
the 1 - .,^^. ^. ;.. ., ,.^r, taken the Mcr........ ;.. ,
and taikeU v*;ry reii^ously to her, Madame [Lady C.] is
_ ftnler^^ nt*vpf ffy rome into hk presence bat when sent
fe^^ ^ ^ . ,ind then oaly for five miQUtes. A a
^B i'xp«cted. Madam, it Ib said^ had
^fcl\ , L]H, hut thiJ moy be calnmny. The
PuehcM o« rinr'^nce is bo nervous' at the idea of the
rhaogie in thrir ^ituiitiou and the re^poneibility attached
to it« added to the fear m to the effect it may have on him
ftom over-ezdlenicnt« that she shakes at bekrini;: a knock
« a bono galloping^ up to the door. She is an excellent
woman, -rery sen-ihle, and would like to have cveni,'thing
fefpitrtJ^KV. !£"jt hovr ihe is ever to weed the motley
ewr^v • ' ;, admitted to court i^i hard to 8rty,
0?' inong the tradtid-people that nobody
orrt* 1 ^ posing there mu«t soon be a moani-
Ifij^. SoiiK^ hiivo iKfUf^ht mouniing;^ bat I will do no such
tkiQir. 1 nlwnvs think of Mm, Crew^, who bonght cheap
■ ' 'Ifror^e the Tl \ ' fin liveti fifteen years
I* caiif^ht ' d, and her cheap
>vorn by otti' r tdfl"
ThiM lelti^r h dated May 18, 1830. Georg© IV.
lived till Juno 20. C.
Memorial Taklrts at St, Bbket's, Paitl's
WttUiF 'V i ring to- day along the new street
to BIat^ id^, I came upon the recently
©xpo#ed iinriu Mi[*^ of Wren*8 church of St. Benet's,
PaAirs Wharf. Whilst admirinjf it, I noticed some
fine tablets against its wall, which are now un-
protected from the public, as a roadway has been
lormed close upon tbeni. One of them is to the
memory of *'Sir Ralph Bigland, Knt, Garter,
bom I'^lay, 1757; died 14 July, 183^"; also to
his first wife and a daughter. Will not the pre-
sent ** Garter ** (if none of the family are living)
place this tablet in the church ? The vault, I
presume^ baa been destroyed for the roadway.
Another is to the memory of Mary> daughter of
Robert and Matt Moser, May 31, 1827, aged
nineteen; and to" Robert, Sept. 30, 1828, aged
fourteen. Are these relatives or descendants of the
artist Mary Moser, R.A,, imd her father George
Michael Moser, R.A* — as it is an unusual name ?
The Robert may have been a nephew of George.
Why are not aU' these tableta removed ? for they
will soon be destroyed. W. P.
STRASBtrHOH LrBBARY. — It may be eatiafac-
tory to know what MSS. have been lost by the
fire at Strasburgh, A catalogue of them* wa«
printed by ITaenet. P.
La RlpuDumjE. — In France imder the third,
as under the second republic, coins have been
struck on the obverse of which is the Greek
profile of a woman j representing the French Re-
f)ublic, with flowers, m-heat, and copiously braided
inir — the whole held by a band round ber fore-
head, on which is incompletely written the word
♦* Concorde/' (Alaal it reads now-a-days like
an opigram.) Above the head is a star (an ill-
• " Hi one, I fear). At the exergue stands the
t?r's name, Oudino. On the reverse, the
: jvcrameut4il words: ** Libert^i figalit^, Fra-
ternitt*/' God knows how *■ l.*e8 freres et amis de
la Commune " have interpreted them both in lB4fc<
and in 1871. The whole reads now as then:
** Mtffftbliqtje Frtmcatie, d^tresse (des tresses) par-
tout: * Liberto . Egalitc? . Fraternit«5 .' " (there is
between each word a full-stop or pointy which
latter word in French means uofte), ^*La Citncortie^
on n'en voit gueres. Omlim ** (on diner) " aous la
RtSpublique ? '* (when so many are dying from
hunger) *^ # a la Belle itoile." ^ It is remarkable
that the three words, ** libertt^/' &Ct which ob-
taiji on the coins of 1870, have been suppressed
on those of 1871— probably as being too contrary
to truth. Likewise the civic oak-leaves, which ou
the wreaths were interwoven with laiurel, have
disappeared, leaving the latter unly : no doubt ag
a protest against the nefarious acts of the Com-
mune. P* A, L.
A CorsciDKHCK.—
** It L» unitismf* to henr of the Standard Xapolcon (pear
Of apple) beini; planted on Coxhoath, n f^x^t whore, dur*
iug the war, the dower of the lS^iti^'h array were os^cm*
blod io prevent tuch a result. '—Kx tract from No. 1 of
tha GardMmr'a Hugazint for Jantiaiy* 18'i(f,
W,F
474
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»6S.VII. JOTK^I
AyONYMOtrs.— Who was tbe authoe of a little
wark entitled Thirty Li'iters oh various SHb/'fctjfj
3 Tols. 13mo. LoDdon^ 1783? It containa an m^
terestiDg criticism on a poet whose name liaa iip-
peared in your columns once or twice lately —
Francis Quarles, concerning? "whom the* Ker. J,
Pomfret, in the preface to his poems, Iruthfullj
remarks that "even Quarles and Withers hare
thoijT admirera.'*
[By W»1luim Jackjop, miuicAl composer of Exeter:
Ob. July 12, 1803.]
1 should also be gkd to know the name of the
author of any of the followinp;' works :^ —
Metnoirsqfnn Old Wig. 8vo. London, 1815,
iMttrs on Lifideliiu, 'Second edition. 12nio.
Oxford, Mm.
[By Gcurgu Home, Bi»hop of Nont icli.]
CanfesmoHs of a Gamester, 8vo. London, 1824.
A Volume of SmoJi^^ in Two Ptiffs, with Strat/
Whiffs from the sam e Pi/tc. 1 2 m o , I jOi id on , 1 BTAK
Essays mt the Sources of the I'i^^un*s receii^d
from Literary Compositions. Second edition, 8vo.
London, 1813.
[By the Rev. Edward Mmgin, of Bath ?]
Edgbaston. A, H. BaTBS.
What is a Barrow ? — Gules^ two barrows or,
is one of the cnat« quartered on the corporate
seal of the town of Droitwich, in Worcestershire*
What kind of instrument is a bar row f In appear^
ance it is not unlike a wooden spoon. H. S. G.
Broperick FAMitr,— I shall he glad to receive
any information relating to a branch of thii* family
settled in the neighbourhood of Shap Fella, co. of
Westmoreland, in th+3 early part of the eighteenth
century. Were the Shap Fell Brodericka cadeta
of the' house of Broderick, Lords of Middleton,
CO. of Cork P W, H. Cottell.
Manor Rise, BrLxtoti.
Lettkk op Olitfr CRoaiwKLL. — Can any
reader inform me where i» now preserved the
original of a letter addressed to the Parliament
by Oliver Cromwell, February 4, 1050-1 P It is
printed in tbe appendix to Harris's Historical and
Critkal Aveount of Otiirr Crfmut^rH, 1772, p. M 8,
.ind reprinted in Gough*8 second edition of Vertue^a
Works of Thomas Sitnon. It was then (1772) in
tho posfiesaion of John Raymond, Esq.^ of Fair^
ford, Gloucestershire. The letter ia written from
E«linhurgh, '» For y^ Houo^"^ tbe Cofoitteo for the
army the^/^ and n^lates to tbe journey under-
taken by '* Mr. Symonds " in onler to draw his
portrait for the Dunbar medah Oliver adds —
'* I shall m&ke it my seeiond suite unto you that you
will please to t'onferr up«m hrm that imployni* in yo»" ser-
vice w""* NicbolM Briott bad before him,'* 8cc.
HkNBY W. HEincitKT.
Markham House, Brighton.
St, Ebward the Cokfbssob axd this Rnr*.
Tbe legend of the ring given by King Edwtid t^
Confessor to St. John the Evangelii^t disgruiMi u
a beggar, is represented on an ancient window ii^
the ffreat church of St Laurence at Ludhnr,^
wbicltt town tbe pilgrims who received tha i
from the saint are said to belong.
Nq mention of these pilgrims* home Jjp.^
the various live« of St. Edward tbe King^j^^
Itshed by tbe Master of the Rolls^ though tfaefCGrr
is there related. Dean Stanley, in bia Mematiak
of 1 rest minder Ahltey^ in his version of the tok^
describes the Ludlow PiUmers, and the reoaptuD
of the ring, by the king at Ilaveriog^atte-fiower.
la there any other foundation for Um legend beiz^
connected with Ludlow than the window ia tbi
church ? Thos. E, WnryiKOTO».
[A tradition prevalent at Ludlow when Leland
it in the roign of Henrj' VII L, and which waa ffvfo tkc
ancient, said thftt the two *' palmers" who brongtit tbi
ring to Edward the Confeasor, w«re men of Ludl^^aid
the Ic^nd was itself repre^nted ia the painted ^m d
a window in a chapel uf St. John, to the north ef tbt
choir of Ludlow church. **Thia church," wys I*ilfl4
^' haih been much advanced by a brotherhood therdB
founded in the name of SL John the Evangcliil: Ik
original thereof was (as the people #^y there) in tbe Dv
of King Edward the Confeiaor; and it is cooAiid/
nfBrmed there that the pilgrima that brought th* fo^
from beyond the sea, a^ a token from St. John tbe £ii^
delist to King Edward, were the itibabitanta of Lii4Iw.*
Jdmrary^ ed. 1744, iv. 91. It ta not tmpoeeabie tbit lit
pilgrims* on theJr return from Jemaalem, may bavtlMi
received by Edward the C'Onfea^or, or that tboNtv»|0*
grima may ha^'e been men of Ludlow ; the tradiUflMV
belief of this early period thus .^howin^ that tbe tovsa-
if ted in Saxon times. Consult Thorn aa Wright*! JTiifc^j
nf Lufihu\ p. 464 ; nnd his Ludlow Sketches, a.i» IH
**N. ^Q;'^1-*S. vii. 15.]
ExcHutoa, — A series of fourteen clevejr <
appeared in 1814 in Illustration of a work eotid
iSomcfhinf/ coiicemimj Nobody^ edited bv Soillr
body, London, pp. 19L There ia no nrtifet** i ~
engraver'a name appended to tbe plates, and 1
cannot find any mention of tbe book in Loin
or elsewhere. The idea is one which, a» nii|
have been expected, George Cruikshank
allowed to escape him, and in bis Omnibus I
displayed the pranks of Nobody ^ and the ]
ment likely to befall Somebody in con
He made use of the same idea as far back i
(the year after the publicotion of the work Ii
inquiring about), in the folding plate to
Scourge for Jan. 2 of that year on the »ubj^ i
the property or income tax, on© of tbe tigi«
having a label issuing from bi9 mouth wtth ^1
word* '* Nobody pities you, upon my booor.** V^\
haps fiome of your correspondents can gif« m
eome inform ation respecUng it. A. H. But^
Edgha^ton.
iTbis curious hook has now be come v^ natei^ Tb
icroua etching are by that strange aod*i
nigliS
i«i>&.TII.JusB8,'7L]
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
475
racter, poor 6. M, Woodward, to wbonn George Cniik-
thmnk 11 indebted for tome hlnta from Llie effigy of
"Xobodj.**]
FoBD Abbey Sjllb. — Can you infonn m© tte
exact dale of the sale of about tv^o liimdred paint-
ingB (somewhere about twenty jcAra since) at
Ford Abbey, near Aiminster» Somersetshire [De-
'Tonabirel, oy auctioD, lifter the death of the pro-
prietorr^ Mr, GwynP also the naiiio of the auc-
tioneer who sold, and hi^ address if living, and if
dead, who carriee on hia bujiineas ? alao, whether
there is any catalogue of the ptun tings in exist*
ence F I believe Mr, ^lilea U now the owner, by
purchase, of the property, Paikxeb.
[John FruunceU Gwyo, Eaq, died it Ford Abbey,
DevuDsbire, on Feb. 28, 1846, iged eighty-foar. Hu
'paiTitinf;^ were f^nhl *>n Oct. 2*5, 1846, aod aercD following
«iu ' !i and Sona, whose local resideoo«
i ilogue (printed at Bath). Sonic
aj,:;..^.., : :..:^ .i.^ V. iM be fuund in the GefUieman**
.M^SfOzine for Uixcmber, 184<>, p. 625.]
Akchsnt Greek ani> Eomaii Literaturk, — In
1600 Mr. James Grey Jackson wrote in hia -4c-
Cfftmt o/Uw Empire of Morocco that —
•* If ihe present ardour for discovery in Africa be per-
•rrercd in, tbe {earned world may expect in the course
of a |4'W yean to receive bifltorio^ and other worka of
Orvfk and 'Roman authora, which were traoilated Into
•**^ Arnbic language when Arabian literatare was in its
iind have ever since been confined to some priviite
I A in the cities of the interior of Africa and in
Ax4bia. Bonaparte, aware of the political importance of
a practical knowledge of this Inn^njage. ha,» of late given
ito remitting Attention to tlie subject, and IF we may be-
lieve the mutilated acconnta wbieh we receive occasion-
ally from France, he is likely to obtain from Africa in a
abort period relies of ancient karning of coni^idcrablo
value, which have escaped the wreck of nations."^
Was tbia anticipation verified, and to what
extent ? W. K
Lknoth of Haib tk Mek A5d Women.—
You have inserted a good many remarks of late
about the hair growing after death. Can you tell
tne which will grow longer in life, the man's or
the woman's ? 1 once saw a young DnirKHh lady,
of middle height, shake down her hair, which
touched the ground as »he stood. The hair was
of lijifht colour. I have seen long hair with Chi-
nes men, though none ao long na that ; but I am
told it will grow as long. G. E.
OrR Ladv op Holywell. — A Lincolnshire
gentleman, making his will in the early part of
the sixteenth century, leaves something to " our
Xiftdy off Holy well." What place did he mean?
It wo« almost certainly in Lincolnshire or near its
^boideTS. CoRNUB.
MrLiTAKT CHEVB0I7. — Is there any special
reason for the heraldic chevron being reversed on
the sleeve of the subaltern officer? M. D,
** THE Xkw Monthly." — I should be glad if
mijr of your correspondents could give me a com-
plete list of the editors of the Neto MontMyMagu'
zine since Its commencement. It was started in
(1 think) 1821 [1814], and among ita conductors
were such men aa Campbell, Theodore Hook,
Horace Smith (P), Tom Hood, and Harrison
Ainsworth. F, Gledstanks Waugh.
Oxfonl and Cambridge Gub,
fThe New Monthly Mtt^^tnt! and Univtr^ttl Re^ftster,
voW L toxiv. 181 4 — 1H2CC the editorship unknown to us.
The New Monlhty Mtujiizint and Literacy JtmrtutL vols,
XV, to XXX. 1821, Ac, edited bv TtiomiA Campbell and
Mr. Dubois; vol. xxxi. to xlvlii. unknown. The Arte
Monthly Magazine and HumorUt, vols, xlix, to IxiL by
Theodore Edward Hook ; voIa. Ixiil. to Ixviii. by Thomas
Hood ; volt, Ixix. to Ixxii, unknown ; vols. Ixxiii. ^c.
by William Ainsworth»]
Northamptonshire Feasts. — ^Can any of the
readers of '* N. & Q.** give me a list of the ser-
mons preached at the Northamptonshire feat^ti
before those citizens and inhabitants of London
who were born within that cotmty? The tirst
was preached by John Williams, rector of St.
Mildred's, Poultry, November 8, 1683,
John Taylor.
Northompton.
^*OoMEBEi>*' OR ^'Umereo,*' — Ii Craven, when
trees overhang a road or garden, the spot is said to I
be too tnuch *^ oomered ** or ** nmerod, ■ for I am at %\
ftjloss as to the orthography, The word is evidently
from the Latin umbra > Arran for a spider is
another word that we have from the Latin. Are
the above words used in other parts ?
Stephen Jacksos.
Robert akd Thoilas Parkkr, — Does tbe para-
graph (p. 288) imply that Thmnm Parker wa*
admitted to Magdalen College ? His father Jtcbert
certainly was. He was admitted chorister, a.d.
1575; elected demy, 1580; fellow, 158*5.1593.
Anthnny Wocsd says he was *' a divine sometime
of Wilton, Wilts, who, leaving the nation for con-
science-sake, died at Deusborough in Geklerland
in 1630. J, R. E,
Passion Pi. ays, — Where nr© Passion plays
performed in addition to Oberamniergau and Brix-
legg ? St. S within.
Plica Polonica,^Is the disease called Plica
Polonica well authenticated ? The common
opinion is that tbe hair becomes fleshy, and will
bleed if cut ; but I have heard a surgeon say that
bo once saw the dittense, and that it is not tbe
hair that changes, but that the ilesb at the roots
ri^cs a ^ood deal, and that it is that that bleeds,
if carelessly cut. G. E.
Banti: nossJKiTi'B Picture op Lady Green-
fiLBEVES. — Perhaps some of your correspondents
would Itindly enable me to answer the questions
contained in he lbllowiti{;r* which I have received
firom a lady who ha.'^ bt^eo <>n a visit to the dismal
regions near Manchester ; —
NOTES AND QUERIES.
C4«fcS,VIL JiniKS.7L
"We went U> Agnew'a «xtaibttion, "whoro I found
iereral old Academy friEntifl, and a perfect marvd by
Dante Kometti. A small picture it was of a woman half-
liSDgtli* Oa the frame beneath was a line of mualc set to
tb« words-*
* Greenftleerv«8 10 my heart of gold,
And who but my lady Green sleeves ? *
On her shoulder *he hold her knight's chain armour and
the i^een ulccvea ; and the hand that grasped them was a
perfect miracle of pAintinp. It looked alive j while the
face and neck and other Ijand were deadnsold in colour —
unnaturally cold i the eyt.s perfect ^recn, the niouth hard
and crimson, and the fa^e fmt o^^ rirawmtf, and vet with a
wontlt^rfully tender expre^ion m it. What did it meaA?
^Ay <iid he draw the fiico wrong ? He must have bad a
mtaning. Why did be paint ooe bond living and the
rest dead ? The picture waa not pleasing^ bat perfectly
fwcinating. There waa a apray of a^ple-bloasom that
seemed to grow. The general compoaition waa indeecri-
bable. Do von know an^^hinij of Lady Greenaleevea ?
If not, couhi you write to ' N> & Q/ and ask for those
ltoe^ and if there ia any old ballad ? It will baant me
till I Imow the idea and' what it means. It waa covered
with i^lasii, though oils. It was on a cbair, not hung ;
and we, being absorbed, nearly sent two young specimens
of the Manchester "^ swell ' into seHoui fit* by turning it
upside down and all manner of ways. They thought wo
were mad, evidently."
For myself, not having «een the pictttre, I cam
only suppose that the lady's hand, touching the
emhlema of her lover, gains thereby a certain
mysticnl proximity to liim, and ia represented
therefore as drawing life from thence ; while the
rest of her typifieB utter loneline!*8, with life, %b it
were, deferred. But perhaps some one more <m<
fait than myaelf with such exqmsitenesa of sym-
boliein will kindly elucidate the my^terj', I take
the liheity of borrowing my fair corr<3«pondent*3
initkk for fiivour, M. Af. C\
DESTJtucTiox OP. Surrey Chttiches, 1G68, —
'Vlmtitig recently the parish church of Windles-
ham, Surrey, I was told that its date was KJ68,
when it was rebuilt after its dej^truction, with fif- i
teen others in the neigh bourhrkjd, by u atorm of
thunder and lightning. I have failed to iind re-
ference to such catastrophe, which must have been
noteworthy, and ask your aid. ^\^ T. M.
Taapfe Family.— Ia tlxere in the British Mu-
seum a copy of the Memoirs of the Taaffe FmnUi/^
published at Vienna in 1866? Does tbia work
contain a more extensive pedigree than that which
appeared before the Committee of PrivUegea
about seven years ago ? If so, perhaps aam©
render of " N. k Q." who may have one would
allow me to look over it.
Whose daughter was the Lady Suaanna, wife
of Charles Taafe, Esq., who had a lease (July 15,
1660) of the lands of Mansfield, Ballyclare, &c.
(Louth) from the Earl of Carlint/ford? With
whom did the Taaffe interest in Bally clare (more
eapecijdJy) terminate?
Cbristopber Taalle had thele lands in 1080
when attainted. When did be die? I do not
think that he waa the Lieutenant of King Jamw'a
own regiment, but the lieutenant waa pit)babtj
the Chriatopher who died in 1725.
I am acquainted with aU printed sources of in-
formation on thia subject, save the Vietma mtb*
lication, and my queries could only be aaawenid lq|L
a correspondent acquainted with tm published i
corda.
HAIR GROWING AFTER DEATH.
{4}^ S, Ti. 524 ; vii. GO, 83, 130, 22t?^ 2tX), 315,)]
My attention was called many yean ago to 1
subject by reading Douglas's statemeur,
Nenia Brifanmca, about Lady Chandos's I
above, vii. 222), I have not the book f
but the following ia, I believe, a faithful i
from it {p. 57) : —
'* Mr. John Pitt assured mc that on vtaitliiff a ifwlllfll
hid ftneoftora at Farley Chapel in SomorsfetMlra, to ^
ofdtrs for some necosianr repairs, he uaw the biii d a
young Lady Chandos wfiich had, in n most cxoliftllll
manner, grown out of the coffin and hanging down tnm
it ; and, by the injicnption, abc was buried mott thin i
hnndred years aincse.**
By *^ Farley Chapel in Somersetsbir©** migtW
meant (for there is no other in that cotuM
old chapel within the ruins of Farley Castl^
Bath — a place with which I am very wvlt
qualnted. There is certainly an old family maJt
tueret and in it are several leaden coffini; bat
Farley Chapel was the burial-place of the Htm*
ger fords, and it never belonged to t!
Chandos, nor to any ancestor of the VI
The chapel meant by Douglas is most lik>^ij i
at Sudcley Castle, near Winchcomb, c<K C* ^
ter, which did belong to the Lords < ^''
widow of the la^it lord (Jane, dan 3. ant]
Uiver<«) married George Pitt of . ..^ ..,
and brought Sudeley CasUe with her in mairi^
Douglases mistake in the name ia not of maA |
importance, and I only mention it in order Id If 1
able to say that, wherever else the deemed Ldif I
Chandoa's hair may have grown aftor bar 4mA, I
it certainly waa not out of any leaden coffin js
Farley Chapel, * I
But after Mr, J. Dixon's letter (Mi/n-d vii«31^l
most of the readers of ** K. & Q.'' will probil^rteltj
come to the concltmion that the very few in '
of alleged growth of hair after death
diapoeed of by some more likely expUnaii
I can suggest from my own experience.
A few years ago, whU^t draining a flei
Clapcot© Farm, near GrittleUin, co. WUti^ i
a nn'le from my house, the workmen w«ft^ i
large rough slab of stone. OnraiaingrittlMjl
sepulchral chamber, about eight feet longv « 6«*
wide, and as many deep. The aidet aoii
were formed of similar rough aUibe; iod oal
TW9m Z,*7L}
NOTES AND QUERIES.
477
yidn apart) some OAk planks, per-
, and about tkiee incliea thick, the
, rude outer coffio. Wit hi a these was
sffiji entire^ but iomewhat corroded,
part being removed, a akoleton was
mahf from the length of the iigiire
jdlBett of the bones, was pre«umed to
. Toniff female. The bones also were
f imbedded in a ^e black ailt which
bottom of the leaden c^jitin* Before
irtber was donei the proprietor of the
ar me, and the messenger (a country
iartled me at my studios by the Intel*
they bad found a skeleton *^ with bair
'arley Chapel " and *' Ladv Chandos "
Ited'on my memory » I sped with great
I aee the wondyrftil sight. Standing
c of the sepulchral chamber^ the skull
ton appeared to me at first sig^ht to be
grown with hair; but on de^^ceudiug
ling more closely, it proved h^ he
ird than the tini> hbre.^ of the roots of
or other little plant, which had found
t in the black silt, and had spread
the skull to the length of six or eight
lis was all. Nevertheless, the rumour
vo feet long^' spread like wildfire, and
eing Sunday, I saw hundreds of people
iKuiriiig Tillages flocking to the f^ot to
pbeDomeoon.
lordaunt'g-' case at Turvey (vii. *JiM)),
0 Upper part of thf^ coffin round the
Ued with hair, which had pretisod itself
i irregTilarilies and indeiitationsf of the
ng their form," &c„ und ** insinuating
the interstices between the stonea,"
)e be aocouuted for in a nimUar wair*
* before me a draining^pipe completely
b a mass of 6ne fibrouB roots of grass
fhicli being taken oat, preaervea tlie
1 of the pipe, and at a little distance
ustaken for a roll of coarse hair.
only add, by the way, with respect to
t© leaden coffin, that f caused the black
turned out upon the grass ; and a few
rards, as aoon ad it was dry, on raldnjr
with my fingers, I found several small
I corroded ; but one of them, more per-
ffs to be Eoman. In the field below
ich the leaden coffin wa« found, I have
and other marks of a Roman
E. Jackson,
Boa« Canon of BnstoL
Cblppeidtmi>
THE CLEBURNE FAMILY: BALLYCULUTAN,
OR BALLYCOLLBTAN: PATJilGK RQNAYNE.
OF C^ARR1CK41>X~SUIR.
(4*" S. vii. 122.)
I owe an apology to NmmoD for not having
earlier answered bis queines*
1, The present name of Bailycullitan, according
to the Grand Jury Books of the county of Tipj-
perarvt and the Topo^aphit^at Dictionaty of Lewis
(it. 49). is Ballycolleton, It h called Ballycol-
latane in the Down Survey and Book of Distribu-
tions, and is a townland of one hundred and
seventy-one acres Irish, in the parish of Kilbar-
rane, or Kilbarron, barony of Lower Ormonde,
above county. Sir Nicholas Wbyte, /r. pa, (Irish
papist), forfeited, consequent on the civil wars of
1641, but he was granted poseeasion again in fee,
phis forty-three acres. Anagh, or Annah {ftot
-Arra), is a townland close by BallycoUetan. It
was forfeited to Captain Solomon Camby, one of
Oliver Cromwelfs olticers, by John Harly (Ir, pa.},
Anagh, or Ann ah » contains two hundred and
forty- three acres Irish. There is a cattle at
Annah called Annah Castle. BallycoUetan ia
remarkable, amoog other peculiarities, for its co-
pious spring wells, and '* clear as BallycoUetan
waters ^' i^ a proverb in the district.
2. The inscription on the tombstone over the
vault in which the remains of Sir William Cleb-
bumc (as ho is called) lie, in the ancient chureb of
Kilbarron, is very nearly the same as that given
by NiHBOD. The vault'irj in the angle under the
eastern glebe, as you enter. The memorial flag-
stone, wiiich is of the usual ^e, lies flat along
the upper surface of the vault ; and, in letters cut
in relief, tlie inscription is as follows ; —
©mjIEXMUS . OIiEBBiriCrE . DE . BJLLLYCXrLLATAF ,
AKUmSR . OUIIT , VlGBSSniO . SBGUJfDO . DIE .
MEK8IS , OCTOBRIS . ANNO . BOM LSI . 10S4.
I l^ad *' vigessimo," your correspondent *' vi-
ces^imo.
There ta
front wall
inscription i
* yigessimo,'
a small rude stone, inserted in the
of the vault, bearing the following
hi:kb xtbth the body
OF
RX^TTSABETH CLRBBTTRKR,
AGED 13 DAYS, WHO
DIED m THB TIAB
1682.
As to the exact locality of Kiibarron cburcb, it
is situated about twenty perches from the^ esBt
bank of the Shaimon, where the river is exceedingly
broad, and forms portion of the extensive expanse
called Lough Darrigee, or the Lake of the Red
Eye ; commonly, but erroneously, named Lough
Dergh, which ' stretches between Killaloe and
Portumna.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[i^S.YtLJjnat%nt
A respected friend writes to m© as foUowa : —
** The coat of arms he [NiMBOJ>1gi7e8 seems io me
the same ivith one over the door of uUtmnie or Clibomi)
CasLle^ in Camberland; but that has no crest or motto,
nof do I recollect any other in the old church there. There
Are, I undentandp documents in the Recorda in Dublin re-
luting to a person of this name who waa Receiver General
in Queon Elizabeth's time, and who, I have heaidi had
Uiat grants made to him by the crown in pajment of
clafms he made; and I have heaj^ of a rather famous
Dean of Kildare of thb name^ who tried to make certain
Xrinh people steady by lending them money to trade in
cattle, and so help to supply her majetaty^ army with
heef; and that Uius he may have had claims on the
Queen, and have ^t land in place of the roone^ ao ad-
vanced. This Dean of Kildare seems to have retired nnd
died in Gloucester, where be left his library to the cathe-
dral there, and otherwise made himself rather a u^ful
p«riion. I have been applied to several times for historic
n(itie4^^ of thii clerical Clebome, but I never bad time or
opportunity to buat them up."
My friend goes on to state tliat the family tra-
ditions of the Clibborna (as the name now is writ-
ten) are not satisfactory : —
** We know/' he state*. " that the firat Quaker of tlie
name was the son of a William CLibhom, and we hav« a
ridiculous story of a fight he had with liia father or
brother (William), which was the cause of the total
break up between the Tipperary and the WestmcAth
famili^."
I may add tbat in Tipperary county, barony of
Lower Ormonde, and adjoiniDg tho banka of the
Shannon, the name of Clibbom is frequently met
with at the present day j though it does not aji-
pear in the Down Survey or in the Book of Dia-
tributions; and tbat, near Clonmel in the same
county, the Clibborna are a highly respectable
and alflnent fairiHy, enterpriaing for some gene-
rations past nmon^ the moat extensive flour-mill
owners and mnnufacturera of flour in that great
wheat-growing county* They own Anner Mills,
dose by the estate of Mr. and MrsL Bemal Os-
borne.
3, As to Patrick Ronayne, the eioe«iingly
clever Carrick-on-Snir artist ^ I am not aware that
he was a relative of Patrick Ronayne of Anne-
brook, Queenstown, co. Cork. I bavo written a
large quantity of interesting particular* in my
journal, the Limerick Reporter ami Tip^jcrart/
Vindicator, in reference to Patrick Ronayne, the
accomplished Carrick-on-Suir artist ; and a gentle-
man named Farrell, a resident of Dublin, but a
native of Carrick-on-Suir, who knew Patrick Ro-
nayne well» has contributed some interesting letters
to the same journal in reference to him. 1 have
heard that a ineraoir of Patrick Ronayne is about
to be published
Maubice Lbnihan, M.E.LA.
Limerick.
DATE OF CHAUCER'S BIRTH* ■
{4^ S, vii. 338, 412.)
I be^ to say a few words on HicBatEjrTBrsB'M
suggestions, which are aa ingenious aa thay an
courteously made. With respect to her referentt
to the epithet " old " appliea to John of Gaunt,
who did not live to complete his fifty-ninth j
venture to think that it is used by ShaJ
in the sense of *' aged,'^ but rather in
who lived in old times — in timed long
and if this be so, I am bound to admit I ,^
epithet may have been employed in that aenae bf
Spenser when he speaks of ** old " Dan GdBef*
Herjien TRtTDE's second suggestion, that the dti0
tion of human life is longer now than it vm I
the middle agea^ is unquestionably founded]
I would reply to A.H/s query — "la not
three somewhat too old for a squire to^„,
military service ?*^ by asking whether the alti
native ♦* thirteen " is not more improbable*
It is possibly my own fault, but :S[k, Fr
NivAXL has, I think, rather misunderstood
object of my note, I am preaching no new he
I merely seek to confirm the ancient belief,
belief unquestionably was that Chauci?r lived to
be an old man, and that when young he had bwn
weU educated ; and I only sought to clear tip by
what seemed to me a very aimpie and natural tftr
planation the change of il (40) into Ix (
discrepancy between what had long been u
sally believed, and the statement as t^ the ]
age' in the deposition in the Scrope and
Tenor controversy.
We are all liatle to error, and the early biofta-
Fhers of Chnucer may have made mi^ ' '
protest against their statements aa t
education and early life being denounc^u hj ■ vi
gammon and guess/* whatever that may aean*
It is clear that Sir Harris NieoV- -^ -•^-yifel
critic, and himself the editor of oinl
Grosvenor RoU (in which docur ij re-
membered, others of the witnesses i mrer
are stated to have been ^t f*rei
^oun^er than they really tctre) believed thi
ral opinion as to Chaucer's agt? was coi
his Life of Chaucer}. I hope, therefore^
be pardoned if in the face ot Mr. Fntjn
dogma *Hhat Chancers residence at O:
Cambridge, or at any inn or court, is all ^
and guess : there is no evidence for it,*'I sti]
proof of their inaecuracv be produced, folld
example of Sir Harris Nicolas, and '* acc<»pi
suppositions which sati^iied the last century/'
There is one charge which ALft. F
brin^rs against me to which I fear I i
guilty— that of ignorance of Mx, Bond*s
discovery, and of much that has beti
late years in the way of Chaucer t^^
is a third of a century ^ince I !
4»*S.Vn. JtJ.Hic3p7t]
NOTES AND QUERIEa
479
qtxeAtion of Chauct^r's age, &nd then to my own
sntieSictioo reconciled the contllcting statements
in the wwv I have pointed out Me. Furnivall,
frtjm his connection with the good work of pub-
lishing A tittinp' edition of Chaucer^fl writings — in
which I should once have been glad to take a
v.\ri, however humble — ia of courae au courant
ih the latest discoveries connected with the
poet 8 life and works. In that he liaa so greatly
the advantage over me^ that had I anticipateii
prOToking his trenchaijt criticism, I scarcely think
I should have troubled Chaucer students with
vrhat I believe U) he a simple mode of dealing up
a difficulty in the biography of our eailieat and all
but greatest poet ; and it was siixnply in my de-
sire to establish the truth, and not for the purpose
of provoking controversy, that I put togetlier the
few remarks I ventured to make on the date of
Chaucer*s birth* William J. TnoMS.
P.S. I have received from a well-known man
of letters (i very liattering communication, in which
he fittgfresLH a new interpretation of the words
**armeez nar xxvii aus " — viz. that Chaucer had
baen cited by the herald?, and had had arms
Jiasigned to fiim for or since that period. Can
any corre.^pondent confirm the ueo of the word
** armeez " in this sense P
ST, AUBBEVIATED TO 71
(a*^ S. i. 219, 25G, 206.)
Four examples of this abbreviation are quoted
by Cfthbkrt Bede, viz. Tmleij = St. Ooley, i. e.
St- Olaf ; and Tandrew, Tanthonj/^ Tawdry (used
of gaudy finery) = respectively St Andrew, St.
Anthony, Sl Audrey. I myself have but little
doubt that in these cases the < comes from = St. ;
but, as one of your corre^jpondents suggests that the
t m merely the familiar rustic abbreviation of the,
Aod as this derivation of tawdry is looked upon as
jatber uncertain by Wedgwood, Miiller, &c., I
Uaink it ia well to give an extunple which cannot
b# gainsaid. Such an example I find in the Por-
tuguese Tingo = James, That the ^ in this case is
derived from Santo is indubitable, for the ordi-
luiry Spanish equivalent of James is Santiago, *
On the road from Cambridge to Haslingfield,
and in Haalingfield parish, I have noticed the name
Abraham Tabraham on a public house. Has the
t in this name Tabraham, which I do not find
in Dr. Ohamock^a Ludus Patrojigmicus, also come
fnom faint?
It is scarcely correct in these cases to say that
St. haa been abbreviated to L It is impossible
fully to pronounce the mutes (or, as Max Miiller
■ ' ' - Frenchman of the name of T^ttc^, ami
I may Iiavu a stmibr connection with
> I , li ihr f'ronch / hns not now the wound
the soft palate, we hear the consonantal aoiae
of ^.'* This IS certfdnly not true; for, till wo
aenarate the root of the tongue from the soft
palate again, and thus give vent to a Towel sound,
we hear nothing at all. Hence the name con*
sonant — thaf which is sounded witb, or cannot be
sounded without, a vowel.
Thia peculiarity of the mutes has long been felt,
and hence no doubt the circumBtaDce that in Old
English we tind an e written at the end of words,
as in stvoote (aweet), root4! (root), &c. Sometimes
the preceding consonant wofj doubled as well, as
inne (ln)» Metre (star), &c. And so again we may
explain the double n and double /, stifl ao comnion
in German, as in Mann^ BanUf Fett.Bett^ &C.1I Our
forefathers, therefore, expressed the real prontm-
f Dotibtt h scarcely comet, as the first half of the
mute baa bv no mcjins the same value as the »cc(»nd half.
Yet the only way of €xppeaaiiig my meaning in writing
is to write the consonnnt double See note l|.
I The ? in /^f = thcTrench e in rfc, &cv — the Urvoeal as
it IS caUed.
8 When a vowel follows, the i h merged in it.
|] If we do hear that a A is coming, it can only be becauae
the tongue ia not closely pressed against the 'palate ; for
if they be pressed together, to the thorough exdunon of
the hreatb, nothing at aU can he heaTxl. In pronouacijig
kf and the other consonants named, there are tiro pro-
cesses. The first oonalsts in putting the neccssarj*^ organs
in position, and is accompanied by nu Aound ; the
fiecoiid consists in separating these organa again, and is
accompanied by the sound of the so-called consonant.
Consonants have^ however, virtually no exi*tence at all,
and merely represent voivels nnodified hv the different
organs of' speech ; whibt the vowels themselves arc
merely oiodincations of the simple nnaspirated breath.
^ The double conionant 8cr%*ed,no doubt, also to show
that the preceding wmmA was not long.
«
calk them, checks) k^ i, p; g^ d, b; «, tn, when
final consonants, without virtually doublingt them ;
and when the first letter of the next word ia a
vowel, the second half of these checks is todted
on to it, if no pause ia made in the pronunciation.
Thus, if we carefully examine our pronunciatiaa
of naint, we shall find that we really pronounce it
tamt-te^l and thia tej or rather f,5 i^ joined on to
the following vowel. Max Miiller calls attention to
this matter (Lectures on tfm Stience of Languaffe^
2nd Series^ 184>4, pp. 142, 14*'i), but he does not h
express himself accurately. He says : — H
" If we say Aa, the eHect produced on the ear is very ~
different frthoi ak. In the flr»t case the consonantal noise
i^ produced by the sitdden opening of the tongue and ^J
palate^ in tha second by their shatting/* ^|
But, if the tongue is shut against the palate, the
full aauod of ak is certainly not heard* We may
perhapH hear enough to tell us that a A; is com-
ing; |[ but the tongue must be drawn away from
the palate a^&in, before we get the full sound of
the kf and then we really pronounce ak-ke. Re fl
makes a similar mistake (ifcw/. p, 139) when he W
saya : *^ K we bring the root of tie tongue against
480
NOTES AND QUERIES.
dation more accurately than we do, though wo
ifsre our&elyes labotir and ink. F. CiLurov.
aEDICATION OF CHURCHES.
(4»^S. 71459; vil 388.)
There can be no doubt that the practice of dedi-
cating churchea — not to any saint, but to Almighty
Ood| in honour and memory of some saint — woa
univef&ally followed in England in early timea, aa
it was in every other part of the Church, It is
clear from the British historian Gil das, who wrote
about the year 550, that the Bntons had their
churches in honour of the martyrs, even at the
beginning of the fourth century : " basilicas sanc-
torum martyrum " (p, 10)» SL Bed© relatea that
when St. Augiurtin and his companions were sent
to England by the Pope St. Gregory the Great,
in 607,' they found an old church near Canterbury,
where th^ queen, who wnu a Ohriatian, used to
perform her devotions, which had been built long
before, in the time of the Romans, in honour of
St Martin: «*in honorcm Saucti Martini anti-
qnitufl facta, dum ad hue Romani Britanniam
mcolerenf (JFwf., lib, i, c. i^). The Anglo-
Saxons always dedicated their churches in memory
of some saint In every form of consecrating
churclies, and even altars, as in tl\e Pontificats
of Egbert and Bishop Lacy of Exeter, the name
of the saint in whose honour the church or altar
Is dedicjited again and again occurs.
I fear, however, that when all local tradition
of the name of a church is lost, there is hardly
any chance of recovering it. Bishop ChaUoner»
in his Memorial of British Pieti/^ has a copious
appendix of BritisS saint?, which might be pro-
fitably consulted. F. 0. IL
The practice eeems to have been universal in
the eArly Church, Among the Anglo-Saxons no
solemnity was celebrated with greater pomp than
the dedication of a church. It was tne custom
in the first ages of Christianity to celebrate the
Holy Eucharist upon the tomli of the martyrs
(Eusebius, lib. iv. c. 15 ; St. Cyiil contra Julian^
327, S34), After the conversion of Constantine,
the biahopg either built new churches over former
tombs, or removed the contente of the tombs to
the now churches. Hence it became a general
rule to require relics of saints for the rite of con*
secrationp although we are told that the Eucharist
was fiuflicient when relics could not be procured,
because it was the Body and Blood of Christ.
When such relics had been bmught in procession
to the church, at the porch the bishop stopped,
and announced to the people the name of the saint
to whose honour the church would be dedicated.
He then deposited thieo portions of the Eucbari&t,
together with the relic«, in a chest; which \.^
then placed under the altar, and the prayer dt
dedication followed. (For a detailed aooountaf
thh^ ceremonial see lAngtiTd*BJinffh^Sajrim Chtnr^
1^45, vol ii, pp. 3iM3.) G. H. Z
A list of EogHsh and Welab dedicatioiu urn
given by Ecton, affcer each church, in Tkesatint»B^
rum Ecclesia^icorum^ with additions at pp. 7834
(4to, London, 1742). The number waa maiie i
complete in Bacon*s Ziher Re^ (4to,
1786> E. ■*
•* MEMOIRES DE CASAKOTA.
(4«»'S,yii.S26.)
Mr* FmswELi. inquires aa to tlie diigf^ «f .
authenticity to be attached to the famous Of f
famous memoirs of this adventur»?r. The '
ne/^ ai U
a kladni
Xm
ana we r is conveyed in the worda o
first brought him into notice, the c
de Ligne, who speaks of him Ir
Mhnoires elMflatigev historigues t
man was abetter judge of wit ^n '
brilliant courtier of *' la granl
called the great Czarine. Spj i.
spirit — the renegade Count de Jtkmneviil ^tln
prince saya of C^anova : —
" Homme otflebrc par »oa esprit ^al, prom
sm ouvragea, IVrudition 1a plus profonde, •
toas ccux qui le ccQnais&eiitf etoi"
Elsewhere, in his Mdmuires mtr U*
GrecSf the prince cites the following c'
of Casanova : ** Je n'estime pas coux f\
la noblesse/* observed the Lmper<nr J
Casanova. *' Et ceux qui la vendent,
the apt reply. The prince furni
resting details of the closing y*
and hia charming style would lose much in
lation I —
** J<? *^roLi qne c'ert alors T i "
_ 1 a d em i l-f^ foia. Mon ne vt i
loi cliejt I'ambaNwidear de ^ _
oompogner en Buhemc* Casaaova* o
voyages et d'aventuroj, yconseat : Ic V
d'un dc^endaDt du grand Waldstein. li .i pa**-
q ualitd^ lea qoatflOR demi^res anti^ 4o ta vis la
de Dux prhs de TccrpUtz, J'eas occmaioii dr V\ vuir
six vl&i cons^cutitk, «t il me n^odit vv^rir
par la vivacity d« son imftfyinatioij, q-j
d'un jeono hoitiii '
tion. Qu*on m
(rnnquillit^ que !
Qvait ouvert pour in prtacrver eoiitj^ i
alt pus cbercb<^. 11 n\v a pas de Joilt qxi
dispute dans la mabon/'
It would take up too much apaca i» ^
the amuaing detaite. SuiHoe it to iPlM
capridou.9 auscfsptibiHty never weariod w
aliip of his patron, who watched arm
cloae of his existence, which was '^decuflt W
il
4* a ?IL JuXB S» 71.]
NOTES AND QUEEIEa
481
yifig;* He died at Dux iu 1707, or at Vienna
ISOa. W© have the positive a»8urance of the
Prince de Lig^ne that CafiAnovft wrote hb memoirs
»ith his own hnnd while at Dux. It ia true that
e spoke little about them, and maiDtained pro-
found silence as to their contents. He contided
he manuscript to Count Wuldstein, who read
hem before hia uncle the nrince. The latter was
) struck by them that he wrote a notice or
Ftngment «ur Casanova" under the title of
Arentnros ** in the fifteenth volume of his (Etnres
lilies. Many efforts were made^ to obtain their
mblication, but it waa not before twenty years
ad elapsed after his death that a truncated edi-
tion appeared in Gexmany. The original manu-
icript ia written in French, and consists of 600
leaToa or sheets divided into ten volumes, and
>ttch volume into chapters, comprising forty years
>f his eventful career. It was from this tliat the
lr»t French edition was published in 1830, in eight
oU* 8vo, and fourteen vols, in 12mo. Other edi-
have appeared in 1837 and in 1B43, Paris,
four vols. 12mo. I have a rare portrait of
iova — a medallion with Latin inscriptit>n
it and under it, *' L. Berkadol- et ac. Prajra?/'
word may be added conoerning the work itself,
t is characterised by the most outspoken crudity
if detail in the amorous adventures, but in other
cts it is invaUiabl© to tho^e who do not con-
snt ihem*it-ht>s with official history, but look to
mai niciuoirs for h dc^muji fies cartes. The
whft was in personal relations with all the
itiitei* of the age, the royal mistresses and
tBservient ministers, the associate of the scheming
iiIvtniLtT<^r« of an age of credulity such as Ca-
^ -Germain, and the Illuminati, who
h ^ ted even- country in Europe in al-
ter; i find poverty, has much to say
pbfT' f the commimity,
i fnooiite il Va. piesciai? toi^ours vu dc b«s po-
et e'est aitisi quHl donne aur une ^poqaG nche
remarqaat)le« une foule de traits o«ra6~^
lividtLcls pris danfl toutisa lc-% dlA8so$/*
- .yroihers, bom in London in 1730 and
17S1, were di«*tinguifihed painters.
" J, B. DrrcffFnxD,
iAMHA r4*'* S» vii. 414,) — My opinion is that
etter H is the digatmna^ being a letter formed
prefts the p-utlural sound of the aspirate* as
find amoD^ t!if> Franki-sh kings, H LudoWcus
} of^cn written ChUulovicus, which shows clearly
be bsurah or hard sound of fbe K« P.
S0N8 (4'** S. vii, 418.) — From the same
r root cornea our expression " a chine of
P.
&BOX M^** S, Tii, 4ia)— The edition of Gib-
da t«d i819 Ls full of errors, some of them
gross. P.
Old Families : Kniohts of OfiAEUBS L, 1630
(4*** S, vii. 42U. ) — A great number of receipts of
tinea for not being knighted were discarded from
the Record Offices, but fortunately many, if not
all» were entered in n book still left in the Record
Omce. P.
St. I'boicas of Villaitota (4«** S. vii. 431.)—
Besides the admirable Life of this saint, referred
to in the editorial note, the inquiper will find «
great many more particulars in his Biography by
the late Dr» Faber, published in 1847 by Richard-
son and Son, Derby. ' F. C. H,
ExTMOLOttT OP ** WaUD '* AS A PERSOlffAL NaME
(4"' S. vii, 256, 350.)— Is J, G, N. acquidnted with
Mr. Toppfer's entertaining sketches ? In his His-
toire de Mr. Vrepin^ ** Le Garde Champetre'' \a
introiiuced under a variety of amusing conditiona,
but never in the feminine gender* C. S.
The Memory of Smells (4*'' S. vi 297; vii. 178,
413.) — Having lived many yean among Chinesei,
T can corroborate Mr, Blaib as to the peculiar
odour observable in their shops and dwellings:
the idea it gave me (and still gives) waa that of
seivaffe and aandai'Wood. Mb, Blatr correctly
dcacribea thediurwm; he might have added that
it is an aphrodisiac, as may be guessed from the
exclamation of a decent old Scotch lady, when a
new arrival in Singapore waa about to taste it for
the tirat time : — '' Maister Tamson^ lay that doon,
ye mauna eat it; it '11 no agree with ye, and be-
sides that it's a maist unchaste fruit."
W. T. BL
A Chomwell Note (4*'' S. vii* 429,) — Ac-
cording to the pedigree in Burke's Landed Gentry f
the second Protector, Richard Cromwell, only left
three daughters; therefore no grandson of his
would hear the surname of Cromwell. Of these
three daughters the SiT&tj Elizabeth, died unmar-
ried in 1731; the second, Anne, married Thomas
Gibson, M,l)., physician- general to the arihy, and
died without issue in 1727 ; the third, Dorothy,
married John Mortimer, Esq, of the county of
Somerset, and died in 1681*
HejtET W. HfiirFBET.
Markbnm Housp, Brighton.
HooAJf (4**^ S. vii. 430.)— Perhaps from the
Dutch.
** Hotfan Mogan (high and mighty), a title of
the States of the United Provinces of the Nether-
lands."*— Batky, R. S. Chakitock.
Grayed Inn,
Obeying Captain Cuttle, I send the foDowing
" note/* made the other day from that oddest oT
odd old controversial books, the ilfafi- JfcuMe (1650),
by the twin-brother of Henry Vaughan the Silurist
In his epistle-dedicatory to good Matthew Herbert,
he vehemently disclaims any courting of the " great
ones,^' and thus puts it : ^The truth ia, I know iu>
482
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[P^S.Yn. Jnnt,m.
use of Hogkens and THulados; if they are in an
humor to giye, I am no beg^ to recdve." Is
reply? If not, can any one explain the word
Hoghens as aboye used r A. B. Qbosabt.
Wab Medals (4^ S. yii. 13, 131, 294.)— I beg
to correct an error at p. 131. Of the six suryiyors
of tihie Peninsular War who applied for Jifieen
clasps each, only two made good their claims.
These were Priyate James Talbot, 46th Kegt.,
and Priyate Daniel Lookstadt, 6th Battn. 60th
Regt, previously of the King's German Legion.
The former had been present at the battles of
Koleia, Yimiera, Corunna, Talayera, Busaco,
Fuentes d'Onor, Ciudad-Rodrigo, Badajoz, Sala-
manca, Vittoria, Pyrenees, Nivelle, Niye, Orthes,
and Toulouse. The latter served at Albuhera, and
in all these engagements with the exception of
Conmna. The other pensioners were granted from
ten to fourteen clasps each. J. W. F.
"In the Straw" (4}^ S. vii. 407.)— I always
supposed that this phrase had reference to the
practice, yery prevalent in London before Maca-
damized roads were made, of laying straw before
a house in which a lady was confined.
The mention of Macadamised roads reminds me
that I saw roads made upon that principle in
Westmoreland before MacAdam introduced them
as a novelty in London ; and from a passage in
Castle Rackrent it appears that those roads must
also have been in use in Ireland, for in the account
^ven of the overthrow of Lady Rackrent's jaunt-
ing car, it is stated that ^'she was dragged I
can't tell you how far upon the road, and it all
broken up with stones just going to be pounded;
and one of the roadmAers with his sledge-ham-
mer in his hand stops the horse at last/* &c.
Another word upon a kindred subject. Long
before the iu>e of asphalte was introduced into this
country I saw floors of farm-houses and of bams
in Derbyshire made after that manner, with this
difference, that the material used for binding the
mass together appeared to be lime instead of
pitch. C. Iloss.
The saying was referred to in " N. & Q." 3'«» S.
X. 321, 4a3, in connection with the 'song, "Moll
in the Wad,^^ which appears to bo only another
form of saying " Moll in the Straw,^^ i. e. after
her accouchement Mb. Seeat quoted the fol-
lowing from Nares' Glossary : —
** Wad, a bundle of hay.
* A vrisp of rushes or a clod of land,
Or any wadde of hay that's next to hand,
They'U steale.'— Taylor's Works, 1C40."
John PiQaoT, Jux.
"The Sun never Sets/' etc. (4*" S. ii. 635;
vii. 210, 293, 398.)— This idea occurs in James
Howell's quaint and amnmng FamSUar L$tUn^
a book of which we ought to naye a reprint:—
** In Philip the Second's time, the Spaniaii Mooaidnr
came to its highest comUe by the Conquest of Poftqnl,
whereby the East-Indies, sondry Islands in the Atua-
tick Sea, and divers Places in Barbazy were added to tbt
Crown of Spain. Hy these steps this Crown came to ^
Grandeur, and truly give the Spaniard his Doe, be ii a
mighty Monarch, he hath Dominions in all Parts of the
World (which none of the four Monarchies had) both in
Europe, Ada, Africa, and America (which he hath soMy
to himself) though our Henry the Seventh had the frit
Profifer made him : so the Sun shines all the four and
twenty hours of the natural Day upon some part or other
of his Countrey ; for part of the Antipodes are subject to
him.*'— Eighth Edition, 1713, p. 142.
As the letter from which this is taken wis
written in 1G23, Howell applied the same idet to
the same monarchy as did Tuller nearly twenty
years later.
What is the word cumhle in the second line?
It is not recorded by Johnson, Richardson, OgilTiSy
or Nares. It is perhaps from the Latin cufrndm.
J.T.P.
Cheltenham Library.
[Howeirs Familiar Letten are announced in Mr.•A^
hers reprint9.^^umble (Lat. cumulus « heap), signito
crowning in its architectural sense ; the pinnade.]
The following passage occurs in a very aUeand
interesting book of transatlantic origin : —
** Ancient Rome, whose name is the sjmonym of »■
sistlesB power and boundless conquest, could not, in tki
palmy days of her Ctesars, vie with Great Britain iatki
extent of her possessions and the strength of her re-
sources. Half a century ago, her great f5*n*.r?rMB,
sketching the resources of her territory, said, • The King
of England, on whose dominions the sun never seti' Ai
American orator, of kindred genius, unfolded the «■•
idea in langua^ which sparkles with the veiy eflff*
vescence of poetic beauty, when he spoke of her as*thit
Eower, whose morning drum-beat, following the son ad
eeping company with the hours, encircles the earth d4r
with one continuous and unbroken strain of the msitiil
airs of England.* "Sketches of Reform, and Bdnrmn
of Great Britain and Ireland, by Henry B. StaBtfl>»
8vo, Dublin, 1850, page 18.
A similar sentiment will be found to pemdei
noble and spirit-stirring poem on the '^Ensliik
Language," also by an American writer, the Kef.
James Gilbome Lyons, LL.D., of Philadelphia:—
" It kindles realms so far apart.
That, while its praise you sing.
These may be clad with autumn's fruits,
And those with flowers of spring.
** It (quickens lands whose meteor lights
I? lame in an Arctic sky.
And lands for which the Southern Cross
Hangs its orbed fires on high,** &c.
These fine verses wore republished some jeiii
ago in Chambers's Edinburgh Journal, whence I
transcribed them : but I have not, unfortunateSji
preserved a reference to the number.
WiLLiAX Bat*
Birmingham.
^StVn* JuirR3,TlO
NOTES AND QUERIES.
483
CsjLKics FOB Ague (4'" S. vii. 443.)— A rery
xespeetable eccleraastic once told me the following
fact, whicb had occurr^^d within hia own expe-
rience. Having^ leamed from a young person tnat
8h« had been subject to the ngue^ but had never
had an J return of it since she had worn a ppell
for its cure, he explained to her the sinful
nature of all such superBtitions, and advised her
to put away the spell. For a long time she de-
clmedy alleJnufT that if she removed it from her
neck, or opened it^ she ahould hare a return of the
ague. At length, however, she yielded to the
priest's exhortation, took off the spell, and handed
It to him. It was a small paper, sealed up.
He opened it, and read its contents to her, as
follows ; —
** At^c farewell 1
Till we meet in hell."
'"Thore/* said he, "how do you like the bar-
gain?*' The poor younff woman was horrified,
and declared her decided 'Preference for the return
of her malady. I knew a similar instance of a
epell for the bead-ache which, on being opened,
pfeeenled the foUowing pleasant arrangement : *—
** Good devil, cure her,
And take her for your pains."
K C. H.
kMEZZonj^TO Pbtxts (4^ S. vii. 408.)--Tbere
» certainly maii}^ pictorial representationa of
B teraptationa of St. Anthony, with devils of all
shapes and in the moat groteeque attitudes, but
many other saints have been painted with demons
annoying them in various ways. I have several
old engraringa of such subjects. Among them is
<me of St. Guthlalce, surrounded by evil tpiiits in
^e shape of a cow with the trunk of an elephant^
a monster in scaly armour blowing a horn, and
other figures quite indescribable ; out an Angel
stiuids by to protect and encourage him. Another
represents St. Elphege coming out of^ his cell at
flight with a lantern, alarmed by the cries of one of
hia montos whom a party of devila are scourging to
deatJi for having disregarded the holy man's ad-
fnonitions. St. Juan of Dalmatia is depicted in
mother with infernal monsters of most terrific
Ibiraia about him. One trie* to tear his back with
% fijghtful double hook ; another blows a bom in
Ua ears ; a third mocks him at his prayers, and a
femrtli is about to burl down upon him a huge
fmg^nent of a rock. The saint, however, remains
immovedp and defeats all their attacks by recur-
liii^ ti> his crucified Saviour : —
••Tartnreii inaesM ferw» quiw lethere raiasa
ExpaliU— «t P«llit crux mala ciincta,— enioe,"
J nill describe one more. It represent* the
tMB of St. Pet*?r Celestin and his monks in the
»^.. -T zM nTT'ilr, hv exulting devils, who are
\vindowa and from the top
t and two monks who have
made their escape. The sidnt by his prayers
obtains the extinction of the flames and the flight
of the demons : —
** Te ^ammis urgent furijc jam eultor erenU ;
S«d cmce, sed prficibus flamnm» furorque pent."
The mezzotinto prints described by J. O. cannot
both represent the temntatione of St. Anthony, a£
in No. 2 the principal Dgure is a female. Nor do
I think that either of them refers to any saint in
particular, but that each is emblematical of the
temptations and trials of the Christian's warfare.
The figure in No. 1 appears to defeat hu enemies
by prayer ; and that in No. 2 holds up against her
assailantf the aword of the Spirit j which St. Paul
says h,the word of God (Ephes, vi. 17), and her
basket and apron full of provisiona would seem to
indicate the eElcacy of charity and alms deeds
agiunst the potcm^a of darkness and ihe^iriU of
wkkednett* F* C. H<
The White Tower of London (4**^ S. vii. 211,
309, 304.) — On p. 300 it is stated "it seems
admitted that he (Gundulph) built Eochester
Castle/^ This is a point not at all admitted by
many antiquaries, if yout correspondent will
refer to Rev, C. II. Ilartfihorne'B paper on Giin-
dulph in the volume for 1803 of the Jnunml of
the Architohffkai Inditide^ he will find some in-
teresting passages on the question.
As regarda the White Tower, the passage in the
Texim Roffmm^ as printed by Heame (8vo, LfOE-
don, 1720) in connection with Gundul^h's n
is " ex prsecepto re^is Willelmi magni, pra&
operi magme lurris Londonias." These two ques-
tions have been considered by your esteemed cor-
respondent the late A» A, in the DiHionet}y of
Arehiteciure of the Architectural Puhlicatiom
Society. W. P.
[In otir ^^^ S.lv. 321, will be found a paper on " Blahop
G undo If and hii* Architect are," J
StTHNAMEs OP Officials (4*** S. vii. 4060^ — It
is much to be regretted that S. did not give the
Christian names of the ofhciak. They might lead
to the identity of families. ' P»
Hekaldic (4^'* S. vii. 409,)— In reply to W. M,
n, C. I apprehend that the junior branch has no
right to alter its own bearings, marks of cadency,
*fcc,, or to adopt additional quarterings, unless U
can show that it inherita the blood of the heir-
eases who brought such quarterings. In aU such
cases it is usuaf to seek an intermarriage — for
most lines leave female issue of some kind.
If it be clearly proved that there Is not even
female issue, the armorial bearings would most
probably bo assumed by the chief inheritor of the
estates, who in such case would adopt the family^
name al^o.
No lapse of issue can convert a junior iQt4>
senior branch. ^^^
484
Okrm. IsLB OF >LiN (4** 8. viL 409.) — « A
Court hoJden betwixt the gatae.*' Without any
(tuCi to guide to a cooclu^ian^ I would suggest as a.
povible enUuoAtioa tba Noree word gaiHf a road
or way. Yemaeular 'Scotch^ g^te^ S^^^ %^^ ^
road, war, street. ** A Court of all the Com moos
of mmx ^* may havo be^D, aod probably was, an
opeo-^ asaemblage held betweeu certain roads
oeftT to the CaAtb of KadbeUi but tliis on my part
18 entirely ooDJectaraL J. Ck. K.
TffE Aia, roR Ma^'s AxniAL NAximit (4''* S.
▼ii 430.)— Not burlesque preachers, but grave
diTines and holy fatherg of the church have often
apoken of our animal nature as of a b^aat. The
most remarkable in^^taoee h that of St Bettjard,
who flouriflbed in the twelfth century. He ap-
plies the words of Abraham to hia eervants (Geo.
xjtii, />) in a manner both iogenious and edifying,
Spealdng of the preparation we ought to make for
prayer, the holy fAther alludes to Abraham saying
to hia young: men: *'Stay you here with the as»;
, , . alter we have worshipped, wo will return to
you ** ; and he goea on thus :—
" Whan you oomft to the church, lay your hand upon
y<mr mouth, and aay i alky you here/ovU thoughts, in-
tifntionfl, and aUnH^tK^ns of tho heart, and camal dciiree :
but thou, my mui, enter into the joy of thy Lord, that
thou mayst am tho will pi tiodt and Tint hid templeu'^
F. G. H.
"A MoKSiEirB, MoNatETK*' (4'*» S. vii. 138,
311.)— ^\a M. FitiSciiiUxrE-MrcnKL rightly says,
the word 77id7»jnWr, pronounced mMr^ucffte by the Gas-
cons and Provun^Miux, Lh frequeotly given to the
cabin -*boY by his fellow-i«ailor9, playing* on hia
name In French, mottsse.
This reminds me that the same epithet, in
iSiglish ** sir/' used fre<|uently to be applied, *at
the beginning- of tho present century, oy young
naval otiicers spealiin^ to their men, thus: "I say,
you sir/' which was strictly forbiddBn in the fleet
by Lord CoUiogwood— that fine type of a true
^ntleman, a good €^ri«tian, and a great captain.
One cannot read hia Memiw'M arid Cofreipemdmtce
without loving hini| although an enemy. I dure
not say as much ivith regard to Nelson, *' the
sinew and the forehand of your hoat.^* P. A. L,
A ToAusTONE RiN© (4*'' ,S. Tii. 324, JiOO.)—
Under the name of " Crapaudine " several an-
swers will be found («N. .Sc Q.*' 3'f S. iv. 351,
4^3^ 443.) I took much interest in the subject
tbeOt ana collected all the information I could,
which was printed {3'"^ S. v. 142.) I have no
doubt that the toadatone has received its name
from it being of the colour of the toad ; and Uie
reason why any stone should be named from the
toad because it reaembles it in colour, any more
than a groeniah stone should be calh^d a frogjitone,
ia^ b^cauae of the old saving that ^' the toad had
a jewel in its head,*' which I consider to be aynony-
NOTES AND QUEBIES-
moua with '' the Devil ia nat an blick aa ha i
painted.'* ; for even the (reported) po^noui in
hideous reptile the toad baa aonud nliafiiQg pois:^ *
look at the beauty of its eya.
It would ba an interesting thing to Sod out U
all^toadatoQea are of the same m&temL I opict
some are plaamas, some olivinea (mam emaa%
if slightly amygdaloidal), or even felmlhic por»
phyriea, dome of which are vei; htad. iL S. Cm
hia atone has been in the DOfiMwion ot hia ftam
for many genemtioDs^ ana J. (S^ S* it, 3$1)u
his query about crapattdine» takes the saaitf oot of
a liat of family jewela bequeathed some IBO mii
ago. So both the toadatonea a» old, and I jm%
no doubt the name was usad when it waa imafisoad
that the toad had a real stone in Ma ImL
Another idea occurs to me. The name mar Ittw
been given to stonea having iridescence or radbtr
ing light, like an eye. IXaa H^ S. C.'a a&Taai&
propertiea, for I find* the atone crapatidmt oeADid
"uno sardoine ceillee " ? . NcriisiiK
I believe the true toadstone^ onoa
prijced aa an amulet, was the foMil nalatal
or possibly sometimes the dorsal t tc'
species of shark or ray. These i* ui lu
the oolite^ and especially in the StoiAUDtieU ila&u
have UHually a rich brown colour, and the hifk
polish of their enamel is as perfect as when leent
They are called bufonUes by the old vrilaff flft
natural history, and in the days when tbetr ctfi^
was unknown most have struck people is »«f
atrange objects indeed* The toad waa tiuiipM
to void them when placed on a red cloth, W 0
they passed from hand to hand thdr anlWtifii^
was sometimes called in mieetiani howarer tfat M
was easy of application. In One Thonsm^d JVbHifr
Thhiga we are directed to set a doubtful cnqimJm
before a living toad, who will di^r^^aid il if 4
forgen-, but endeavour to seixe it if Mmiiti
^' for he envieth much that man ahomd hand
that stone." When of a circular and button-]
form these teeth were obviously weU
for setting; but I remember seeing^ in t4idy \
dasborough's fine collection a remarkable rOQr
containing a large corrugated palatal tooth
ptychodujs, which must have been rather awi
to wear. This fossil was derived &oni the i
IVmplp,
EoGS A3 AX Article of Form (4«* !% vii i
Uoaidea the text referred to
to this query (Luke li iJ a\ji
passage in the Holy Scriptui .b qM»**
spokenof as things eaten, an^i u Iarut.S^
*^ He that shall eat of tiieir egga ahall dM."*
is well known that the Romans nsnnlly
their principal meal with eggs : h^
I Horiwjej '* An ovo u&que ad mala t i
I And in Ma Satire il. 4, hia fneod Catiu^ bcg{51
4*S,Vn. Jit3ib3,710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
accoTuit of the requisites for a good dinner by
recommendiDg" long-shaped eggs,ratli(^r than round
onea, as being sweeter and more nutritious : —
** hougn qaibii9 fad«a ovia erit, illn metnento,
Ut Bticci mclioni ee ut magi? aim a rotuntUs,
Foner« : namque marem cohibcot callota Yitellam.'*
Cicero &ldo speaki) of de\ounng eggs with enger
■appetite: —
*• lflt«gTAm faiaem ad ovum affcrro.**
Lib. tx. ad Famil, ep. xs,
Fleury mentions in bia Manners of the Im'aeJitrif^
5 xjI, that the E|?yptiRna in the times of their
purifications abstained even from eggs, which of
coune implies that they eat them at other times.
F. C. U,
Eggs lire mentioned seven times in the Blble^
tho most ancient being that of Job vi. i\ ^'Is there
nr taste in the white of an egg ? '^ J. B.
Streatltam< S.W.
•* Wnr.THBR OR Ko *' {4*^ S. vii. 142, 286, 378,)
The correspondents who write in support of tliis
expre^on in preference to ** whether or not "
■eem to miss tbe reason of the objection origin-
al^ mged against ** whether or no '' being used
inAacriminately. Aii elliptical expression cannot
be comect if the gaps will not bear filling up j fur
laatance, " whether welcome or not/' is the proper
exnresnon; and the 'absurdity as wall as mcor-
feekoefs of the other mode of expression becomes
obriouB when the sentence is completed or the
gap left after " no '' filled up.
Some of the defenders of *' whether or «o "
g^ye examples of (sentences quite dilTerently con-
structed^ such as the foUowinj?, which is correct : —
•*Wliether his oath can bmd him, yea or no.**
This i« the same as saying ** whether u it, yea or
nay ? " the propriety of which is not disputed.
At the same time I may f-nv, that I should not
consider either the Bible or Shakespeare good
authority for correct modem English,
M. X B.
The following passage fhim The Winter* » Tale^
Act I. Sc 2, seems to be in point :^
**Oimith. , I must
FoT^ke the court : tn dfy% or «ks is certain
To me a bfcak-QCck."'
William Wickbulu.
Tnr^^^oy k Bbutd {4** S, vii. 97, 22/5, 40L)—
>h J Id calls in question the propriety of
U:- .-: —
** Thvfii ia 1 in c!illin;jt ThomsGn a Druiil or
apilgrfni, eh Uy fomi;:cn to bis own. To the
nagulnary aiiu ...,,. i...aoufl Druid it vaa peculiarly im-
ttffvp«r to^Tornpare a poet whose religion iras simule aa
Imtlk snblimis m nature, and liberal a§ the spirit of phi-
biophy.'' — it«wy. p. 43.
Upon this, the most able editor of Collins, the
Eey. Alexander Dyce, has the following com^
meat: —
■^A ttnugv lemaKk! Tbe Dnuds passed their days
amid nund so«nei: soefa seaiias Thomson delighted m^
Olid exqaiaiuly described ; bence he is called & Druid.
Keed I addf that * woodland pilgrim ' is a beautiful
pc^etical expreision for * a wanderer utooti^ woodlands * ? **
Foeticai tVnrkt of GAlim^ 8vo, 1827, p. 196.
Confer Thomas Warton*s lines : —
** Or Druid prieats, sprinkled with bum an gcrre.
Taught mid tbv massy niaae tbeir mystic lore."
" Sonnet written at Stoaehenge '' (Fo^Hcai
WorkM, by Mant, 1802, ii. 14C.)
WlLLLLat B^TES.
Birmingbam*
Altab Slab nr NoRTncfH Cathbdkal (4*^ 8.
vii. 300, 39tl.)— The slab mentioned by W. H. S.
as haying been found in the chapel of the Blessed
Jesus in the cathedral of Norwich is no doubt
the mensa of an altar. The piece of marble near
th^centre no doubt covers the aepulchruni or ca\'ity
made to receive a box. which should contain
relics, three grains of incinse and a parchment
scroll, on which should be written — (1) what
relics are enclosed, (2) the name of the saint in
whose honour the altar is dedicated, (3) the name
of the consecrator^ (4) what indulgence the Pope
has granted for the anniversary of the day of con-
secration, (5) the day, niontlij and year of the con-
secration.
These particulars ana taken from tbe rubrics of
the oifice '^ De Altaris Consecratione qus fit ittiie
eodeeiie dedicatione " in the Foniifioak Momtmum
of the time of Pope Pius IV,
Many altar slabs may be seen without this
sepulehrum ; in those cases it is probable that in
and after the twelfth century the sepulehrum was
in the base of the altar, as a special ofiice will be
found in the Pontijicale^ in which that case is pro-
vided for*
The earliest instance which I have noticed in
which a sepulchnmi exists in the mensa is in an
altar in the baptistery at Ratisbon ; probably of
the twelfth century — possibly of the eleventh
century. In eiuiier altars, as of the sixth and
ninth centimes, there is no trace of such a cavity*
It is uncertain wliea the practice of inserting
relics in altars became obligatory. Moroni {THsu m
Entdi:iimie Ecclesiadico-Siorico) remarks that the
rubrics of some ancient rituals make provision for
the case in which no relics were placed in an altar
about to be consecrated. A. N.
ENGLISH Descent of Danikl O^Cokitibli:. (4**"
S. iiL 75 ; vii. 242, 349, 444.)— As Imisinujr tells
the tnith, but he does not tell the whole truth.
Ferguson doessay in regard to the eix persons named
Ktmailj mentioned in %andtuhfwh6h^ that " one of
these certainly was from Ireland '' ; but he also
says, which An Irishman has seen lit tosuppreaStj
that this individual ** appears to have been moat J
probably one of the >ortbmeu who had settled]
tkefe^ as both his wife and son have ScandinaTiaiE ]
names. All the others/ ' he contitiueSy "aeem &om
the ttamea of their piu'ent^ to have been pure
Norsemen." It is not by such shifts that the
dogma of Celticism is to be sustain ed, Bixbo.
ELE>^EIf-SHILI,IKQ PrECES OF CnARLES L (4^
S. vii. 55, 148, 442.)^ — I may be permitted to in-
form W. H. that ani^elfl were first coined in Eng-
land by Edward IV. about the year 14^15, They
were so termed from the design on the obversei
which was the archangel Michael standing with
hia left foot upon the dragon, and pierciog him
through the mouth with a spear. They each
weighed eighty grains of nearly fine gold, and
were at finst current for six ahillinge and eight-
pence. Every succeeding sovereign continued
their issue until Charles I., who was the last who
coined angels. They were then current for ten
shillin^^ and only weighed sixty-four grains and
a fractioa. Hjenbt W. Hexfrey.
Markham Hoase, Brighton «
BiTRFF OB BtTBF (4"» S. vil 282, 879, 445.)—
This word may be derived from A.-S. heatnVf
which is variously rendered "a barrow, a high
or hilly place, a woodi grove, hill covered with
wood."" Conf. Barf (in Bede Barve)^ near Bever-
ley. R, S. Chasnook,
Gray*6 Inn.
* CoNGRnrv'E AND Wycherley (4"* S. vii. SOI.)
Mb. Ha FN* Friswell gives a sentiment to Con-
mve that belongs to Wycherley, who wrote the
JPktin Ikaier, The Bonbk Dealer was written by
Oongreve. G. E.
" Stbeak of SiltbbSea** (4**' S. vii. Sm, 446,)
The quotation, '* streak of silver sea," concerning
which your correspondent A. S. inquires, and
which Lord Salisbury was reported a^ talcing from
a lecture by Colonel Chesney^ was plainly bor-
rowed of a nurpoBe by the latter from the eulogy
of England m the famous Gladstone article of last
October's Edinburgh MevtvWf p. 088. In Colonel
Chesney's printed lecture it appears between
commas, as a quotadon should be. B. E.
TnoifAS Basktoyuxe (4*»» S. vii. 429.) — K
your correspondent means John Baskerville^ the
printer, who was also an inventor and a patentee,
iiB will find a portrait in Mr. Woodcroft a collec-
don at the Patent Olfiee, 25» Southampton Build-
ings. May I ask what G. C.'s Thomm Baskerville
invented? R. B. P.
Imsn Legioxarits ik Bio de .lANErRO (4**' S.
vii. 403.)— Mr. MacCabk will tind a full and
very painful account of the treatment of the Irish
Ijegion in Brazil in Arniitnge's Ilistonj of Brazil,
2 vob. 8vo, 183G. W.
Brass in Bostott CnrrRcn (4^** S. vii. 405.) —
W. E. B. says that the brass at Boston is for
*^ Richard Bolle of Haugh, who difd 1501/* Burke,
in his Extmei Barongf^i^ givea thk BielMid it
the husband of Isabel CEB^abeth) Nanfan, mD*
ing the name in error Namaat. But in the fe*.
ton brs;^ Nanfan occurs as a quarteiisg. Thii^
might not prove that the bimst was nu^ ^
Richard Bolle. But what are the quartcriufi
after 10. Coleahill? No. 8 is Nanfan, not of mveii
but of Cornwall, or Birts-Morton, Wopc«*ti
to which place the Nanfans migrated. N<
Penpons. Jfo. 10 is Coleshill, as given by
These two, Penpons and Cole-shiU, are
quarterings. No. 12 certainly might be Ei
or Trecarrel; the martlet being for difference.
But what are the others r* Not, I thinks quarter-
ings of Nanfan.
The lady is, I think, buried at Btrts-KortOB.
In that church still exists an tmuauallT cuion
altar tomb, moved from its place and mntilaiad
as usual. Habington gives an account of it ill Ml
MS., now in the possession of Lord Ltttwlws,
I have copied his account, and have it before xns.
It is not everywhere quite correct ; but he giT«
things which have now perished. I read a mei
of it at the tomb, some time ago, to a few fri<
among them the present rector; and I should
to be allowed to give a note on the subject
dajr in '* N. & Q.*^; but the detail is too loof Aff
this reply.
It is enough to say here that HabingtOQ
tions her, and that her figure ia stiU to bl iML
He says : —
•* A gentellwoiniin prayingc, w^^ hw hAtt tun>t4 «psi
a cbapiett, & wryttcn Mizabeth BoUvs, sisUf to 6m
None of theae words are now to be seta. Tbe
"both** refers to John and Richard Naafia W
brothers* John Nanfan being of Birts-MortonCoufL
iv r
St Darts Lodge, Malvem Wells.
The Longs of Wbaxaix (4»* S. viL 433.>-
Mr. Jokes says (p. 425) —
** there was n pUcc in Wraxall ealled Bcrl^v's Tw B»-
ley^e) Court, which, occording to Canon Jackeuti, piMid
to Blunt and then to Httawy."
The coincidence of these names suggest? thep««*
sibility of a connection mth Verdon : f
the youngest of the three daughteiB •'
de Verdon, by his first wife Maude
married* first (before June 17, 1327)
Blnntj secondlv, Mark Husee (who
that is, before J'uly 23, 1349); and tL
Crophull. She left iasue, by her ^ -
at least. I oifer this suggestion
be found worth. 1 i L.k^j.. ._> ^ *> l l ,*
The Con Fish:eiiy op NBWFoinf dlaxp, attt a
English Convert in France (4^ S.
The jEnglish convent mentioned in
quoted by your correspondent w t
of the Visitation of St. Marie of ' i 1
4*^3, Til. JusBa/TL]
NOTES AND QUERIES-
by Henrietta Hon a, Queen of Charles I* Her
dAOgbter HeDiietta Anne was educated here, and
to tnia place the unfortunate queen retired when
overwhelmed with grief at the loss of her hua-
biind. She then resided at the chateau of Co-
lombe, and died there Aug. 31. 1G69. By her
express wish» her benrt wa« taken to Chuillot,
Id the archivea of France ia an interesting account
of its reception, written by one of the nuns. It is
quoted in Lit?es of the Qu4feft^ of Eti^wtd (v. 465).
JoHJf PiGQOT, Jirst,, F.S,A.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
Am Hi»tortcal View of Literatnre and Art in Ortai Bri-
hum^frxtm tht Actamon of t/tr Hnutt nf HnnoDer to the
Bmyn of Quren Vietoria.' Bi/ J. Murray Graham, M,\.
(Longmans.)
Tbe anttior remarka that though an historical account
cf a nation*! literature an*] art in entitled to con^ideratiun
MS an important part of itA general bi»ton'. it hiu too
fvEqaently been the practicG in hiatoncal compositions, if
not altogether to ignore, at least to treat in a very aum-
mmry manner the lii4?rar)' and al>^thetic development of
tbfi national thought and taste. The present volume is
tn atUmpt to remeily thia omiiiion, and to fumi«h a
ahori history of literature and art in Britain, as developed
in the ilneV and more popular forms during the most
fteent period of her annalfi. After a preliminarr view
of the general condition of literature and art and their
t»rur«MCin in Great Britain^ at the acce^ion of the
UooM of Hanover, Mr. Graham proceeds to consider the
-•-• ' of the varioud branches of literary composition dur-
lie periodf and the inflyenco which the different
r^ HaTe bad upon public taste. In tbe same manner
he examines the progress of nrchitectarct palntiuf^, and
■enlptore in this country. The book give^ in tbia way
jiut the information suited to tho»e who want a general
idea upon the subject^ while tbe writer*a authorities
~^~iii out to tbose who de&ire further information the
! of obtaining it.
J^arodkiai and Famiiy Hhtory of the Deanerj^ of Tri^
MaoTj, in the Countv of (hmiealt. Br/ Sir John Mac*
kan, F.S.A., &c. Fart III, AY. Brctcard. (Nichols &
Sod.)
We oongratnlate the raen of Trc, Pol, and Pen, on the
•taadr prngress^ which Sir John Maclean is makJug with
hi« hjJtofy of that interesting portion of their county*
the DwuieTT of Trigg Minor. In the Part before aa,
which oontalnt a description of the parish of 8t. Bruered
aiioM SL Broward aliaa Simon Ward, it is treated with the
fnlneoi of detail, local, historical^ and genealogical and
tbe same endeavour to attain accuracy and completeness
which have characterised the former portions of the
vork, and which will ensure it a place in the library- of
an Cornish Antiquaries and Topographers.
Boors received. — An Kuay on the iJruidf^ (he An-
eieni Churches^ and the Rtfund Tower* nf Ireland, By
the Rev. Richard 8middy (Kelh% I'ublin) has claims to
Attention as containing a new theorv of the Round
Towers, by a Celtic antiq nary, who t&inka it probable
that Celtic was the first language »pokeo by man. — Tht
JBoiawii Fiay of the Highlandi tf Bar arm. By Alozan-
dftf Craig SelTtr (Blackwood)^ reprinted ttom Blaek-
I
I
troocfi Magazine^ will be found verv nsefol to intending ^
visitors to Ammergau, where the i^aasion Play ia to be ^|
performed this year on June 24 ; July 2, 9, 16, 25, 30 ; H
Aug. 6, 14, 20, 27 ; and Sept. 3, 9, 17, 24.— Fu/tcm** (^taie \
BrackeUU) lUuttrated Guide to Tunbridffe Welti, ^c. By
J. Kadford Thomfwon, M.A., veir full, and with a couple
of good maps, which in some degree make amends for
ven- inferior woodcuts. — 77ie Denderatum; or, H^lecirt-
cUy made Flain tmd Uaeful by a Lover of Mankind ami
of Common Seme (Bailhere)< This is a reprint of the
remarkable tract on Curative Electricity written by John
Wesley, 1759, and which, like his little pamphlet on
Cold VVater as a means of health, shows that be was as
interested in the physical as in the moral improTemeni
of his fellow-creatures.
Harrow. — To celebrate and commemorate the tercen-
tenary of Harrow School a committee baa been formed
to raise a fund, to be called the ** Lyon Memorial Fund,"
for the purpoB* of acouiring land and erecting buildings
for school purposes, tne iirst object being the erection of
a Speech Room, with an architectural devadon worthy
of its splendid neighbours, the Chapel and Yanghan Li-
brary. It is calculated that not less than 30,000/, will
be reauired to carry out all the objects in view; and the
first list of Bubscription.H, containing two donations of
1,000/, each, afibrdji good reason for believing that old
Harrovians will not allow the committee to lack the
means neoessary for carrying out so laudable an object.
Dit. DwLUNGER.— fn a convocation to be holdcn at
Oxford on Tuesday, it will be proposed that the degree
of D.C.L. be granted by diploma to Dr« Joseph John Ig>
natiua von l>Dllinger.
St. Akbax's Annr.r. — On March 1 1 we called atten-
tion to the measures in contemplation for the preservation
of St. Alban's Abbny. We arc now glad to announce
thftt A public meeting will be held at Willia*s Rooms on
T hurray, June 2% for the purpose of considering the
steps to 'be taken for raising 46,000/. required for this
purpose. The i^rl of Verttlam will preside, and we hope
he will be supported in his laudable endeavour to pre* ^m
serve one of the most important of our architect urai H
monaments. H
The second volume of Lord Brougham^s autobiogra-
phy will shortly appear. Tbe narrative will extend to
the passing of the Cotholic Emancipation Bill, and include
a great portion of the affairs of Queen Caroline and her
trial. H
TuE ileath is announced, in his ekhtj-Mh Tear» of H
Sir Oswald Moaley, Dart., of RoIWton Hall, near l3urton*
on-Trpnt, and formerly M.P. for North Suffordahire, Tbt
proxirniiy of his fanlily seat to Tuthury Castle, one of
the prisona of Mar>' Queen of Scots, led him to turn liia
attention to its itory, and in 1822 he published a History
of the Coftf/e, Priory^ and Town if Tutbury*
Strasburo Library. — The subscriptions Ibr the
Straaburg Library are, according to the muinmd Zeitung^
progressing so favourably as to promise to leave the in*
filitution rich, not onhr in tbe number, but e<|uaily 80 in
the literary value of its volumes. The efforts made to-
wards this objoct in England are highly appreciated
abroad. Moreover, the Grand Duke of Baden has con-
tributed two thousand volumes from his libntr}' at Carla-
ruhe, and the univenitiea of Heidelberg, Baste, Erlangen,
GreiTswald, and Jena, and the roval library at Stuttgardfc
have made liberal promises. Switzerland is doing ita
best, and the Austrian capital, though disclaimed as a
German city, proposes to add sonao •pedmens of peculiar
value. Some appredahle mawnti ooroa fhim private
[4«>&TIt. Jomea.'n.
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NOf ES AND QUEKIES.
489
LPWDQIf, 9A TWROAT^ JCITS 10. ISTJ ,
CXJNTENTS.— N» 180.
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th«
: Hint*
— I'uliLical Satirical
ilnftion of Consols —
QUisi&lK8: — Aco Ine Chaini** —
AnrinvnifMsa — A i a 8e»ta — Baby-
Vtet^LonL Falkl&nd,
Ffrrf^rinm ^*wn — Fic-
'' ''"^ "liv" or
Oul.
-lU — .n«TiJ*]j* of
sh IleglntiTH of
^istor— Soidcu'fl
l-^ Lord Pal 1110 r> ton's Ttivnussal from Office, 4S>ft
i'liir-c in ^tnr-..M rlmrr!:, Xorfolk, 497 — The
., ±c., /6.-The
< : " Richt Gude-
.' - FiriLT <,r the
-, /6,
Bpi-
I any
CrcsU —
I' at ions of
' nun.iiv- — rinjdrLni'--* i.i^Liit-^ -— isjaudiiU — **Attiina
i TMi " — D-v Hiihire Wordj*. 4iCi S04,
JUmUS'S SECRET AND "TUE TIMES"
RliVtEWER.
As at the present moment, when Piirliament ia
ill full work, and the columns of The Time$ ure
full T.v rv . rilnvi-liv^ With Tepoi'ts fro 111 Pari 3 and
* t would m vain to expect the
t i for th© dl^ussion oi n mere
J, 1 hope to be pentijtted to call at-
iX Q.' ' t« a paragraph in The Time^
. oi Air. Twjaletous interyating volume,*
" hnpt* t!ifit doing *n will help to clear up
ich can scarcely fail to strike sucn
jui have ever cared to look into the
Who was Junius?*'
turnpli u as follows : —
U^4»n (the late Premier) that
thara) knewwha wrtjte lire
" f Francis. LonlAber-
wfi» the Hon- Arthur
iHu^. Thr" RiiihtHon.
- W illiams
^h'm great
- --.::-. . ... ,. .."....,.. iliat Junius
r nue fit the persors.i to whoin the k-tter^ had tjeen
irly afcribwL Soon nftcr the pnWication of the
/ . i:f a I.iiiy of Quoiiftf, in Tvhich the Grenville*
^v. r iriMi 1 M' I oa poMtswdof the key. Lady Grenvillo
• " rtiiim^ nf Junia*, professionally iirreati-
«pit«l uiHca ChAbot (Expert). With Preface
Atid Cuiidtt r.a bvidence by the lion. Edward Twialeton,''
/^cut a mea^gc to tho editor, through Dr, Jatnea ForgtiBoii
to Aay that Lord Grenvillc told her ho kmtw who wrote
the .Umiiu Letters, and thoy wtre not writieo l>y Fraucla*''
Tho lirat thing that must sU'ike the reader of
this paragraph is the curio ua fact that the myete-
rioii^ i<ecret which Junius declared dhould die with
him was known to no less than four persons— -Lord
Chatliam, Mr, Htt^ the Hon. Thomita UrenviUe,
and Lord Grenville.
But how was it known to them f Was it known
in the strict sense of the word ^ Waa it knowu
from the information of Junius himself, or liHjm
any other direct sources of positive information ?
Or was it Atimwi to them (that ia, contidenily be-
lieved by them) in the same manner in which tho
late Mr. Taylor might have said he knew that
Junius was trancis, *. ('. from the cooTiction of his
own mind, from evidence which he felt it was im-
pos^ble to resist P
How did these distinguished persoQS become
possessed of the secret, which Junius dedared
would perish with him P Lord Chatham could
ficorcely have received it otherwise than in con-
fidence ; yet as Mr. Pitt was only eleven years old
when Junius ceased to write, but for that diliicnity
it would be a natural inference that Mr. Pitta
knowledge ^'aa derived from Lord Chatham.
How, too, did Lord Grenville learn it, bom as he
was in the same year with Mr, Pitt f for if he
learned it from Mr. CTreuville, then Mr. Grenville
could only have received it under circumstHnces
which would justify his divulging it.
A very slight examination of most of tho tra-
ditions respectinjif Junius shows of how little value
the? are as evidence for tbe discovery of the
iiutnorship of the Letters. And this without tile
slightest doubt being felt as to the high character
and thorough truthfulness of those by whom and
through whom they are related and handed down.
Who can feel otherwise than convinced that in
sending a message to the editor of Thv Dinrie6 of
a Ltidt/ of Qualiti/, ** that Lord GrenviJle told liejr
he knew who wrote Junius's Letters, and that
they were not written by Francis/' Lady Gren-
ville was only anxious to contribute as far as pos-
sible to the establishment of the truth P In like
manner who can feel otherwise than convinced
that the Hon. Arthur Gordon is actuated by the
same praiseworthy motive ?
Yet assuredly there must have been aome de-
fect in Lord Anerdeen'a memory, or Mr. Gordon
has been under a '<\Tong impression tia to the name
of the mysterious author ; for as Mr. Put died in
18CH), ancl Francis's supposed connection with the
Letters was never hinted at until 18PJ, it is
scarcely possible that Mr. Pitt could have told
Lord Aberdeen that ** he and his father knew who
wrote the Letters, and that it was not Frandty
That Mr. Grenville, to whom Juniua oddreaaed
the private letters printed in the Qrm^iUe Or
■
I
I
I
490
NOTES AND QUERIES.
L4«>>S.yiI.JinnBl0^71.
regpondence. did not know the writer of them,
may fairly be inferred from the manner in which
he had tied them up as '^ anonymous " ; and Mr.
Smithy the accomplished editor of that corre-
ridence, says expressly — and his testimony on
point is very important —
" It has been suppoeeid that the late Mr. Thomas Gren-
Yille had some peculiar knowledge respecting the aathor-
ahip of Janiua. I have no reason to join in thlit opinion,
Ibr I never heard him speak upon the subject, nor did I
ever hear it mentioned in his presence."
And it is certain that Mr. Thomas Grenville
never saw the Stowe Letters, about which so
many marvellous accounts have been given, until
the^ were shown to him by Mr. Smith in 1840.
Surely, in the face of what has here been stated,
it is not unreasonable to ask what proof is there
that either Lord Grenville, Mr. Tnomas Gren-
ville, Lord Chatham, or Mr. Pitt knew — that is,
had positive knowledge of — who wrote the Letters
of Jonius. QuiBSiTOB.
NICHOLAS FERRAR'S EULOGY UPON THE
AUTHOR OF "IGNORAMUS."
Nicholas Ferrar, the pious recluse of Little
Gidding, and George Huggle, the author of Igno-
ramtu, the well-known comedy played before
King James at Cambridge, were both students at
Clare Hall. In after life both became interested
in the colonisation of Virginia, and Kuggle in his
will made the following bequest : —
•* I give and bequeath one hundred pounds towards
the brmging up of the infidels' children in Virginia in
Christian religion, which my will is shall be disposed of
by the Virginia Company acconlingly, desiring Almighty
God to stir up the charitable hearts of many beneftictors
in this kind, principally for the increasing of the king-
dom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." *
At a meeting of the Virginia Company held
November 20, 1022, Nicholas Ferrar, as deputy-
ffovemor, made the following statement, which
has never before been printed in England, and was
copied from the company *s MS. Transactions in
the Congressional Library, Washington, U. S. of
America : —
** M' Deputy further acquainted the Company that M*"
George Ruggle, latelv fellowe of Ciare Hall in Cambridge,
beinge a Brother of the Company and newly deceased (w«»>
he said he could not without great griefe mencon), had
by his will bequeathed 100* for the educacon of Intidells'
children, w*ch he had caused to be put into the Table ;
"w«*» the Court well approued of: but seemed (at least
the most part) to be utterly ignorant of the person or
qualities of the man :
** Whereupon desiringe to be informed of both, M'
Deputy told them he was a man second none in know-
ledge of all manner of humanity, leaminge, and so
generally reputed in Vniuersity of singular honestie and
[* A copy of the last will and testament of George
Roffgle t» extento is printed in his Ignoramus^ edited by
J.£ Hawkins, edit. 1787, pp. xci— dv. Consult also
Mavor's Ttco T.ice» of Nicholas Ferrar, 1855, p. 12.1
integritie of life, sinoere and sealoas in Religion, and of
verie great wisedome and nnderstandinge ;
« All w«i> good partes he had for theae last three yearet
wholly almost spent and exercised in VirsfiniA baisiDessei^
haninge (besides oontinoally assistinge his Brotheit aad
himseu with Coonaell and all manner of help in thesa
places) written sundry treatises for the benefltt of tke
Plantation, and in pticular the worke so highly ««•
ended b^ S' Edwin Sandys, concerning the (joaenat
of Virginia, but such was his modestie that he would
by no meanes suffer it to be .knowne during his lifti
But now being dead, M** Deputy said he could not whh
a gfood conscience deprive him of that Honos w«^ be so
dnely deserued.**
Ruggle willed that all his papers and note-
books should be burned, and among these ms
probably his treatise on the Government of Vir-
ginia, an abstract of which is given in the minutes
of the Virginia Company.
Edward D. Neill
Dublin.
Thb Repentant Thief. — I once heard in
Jamaica a clergyman of the Scotch kirk, in sneak-
ing of the Repentant Thief, say ''he had th»
peculiar privilege and high honour of being tlM
last that was blessed by the dying, and the fint
that was redeemed by the dead Saviour " — a ses-
timent to me original and beautiful, and worAy
of preservation in '' N. & Q.'' G. E.
Anecdote op the Duke of Wellikotok. —
Many years ago, whilst shooting in I Jampshiie with
a young clergyman, I was told by him a pleasiDg
anecdote of the Duke of Wellington. With in
estate purchased for the Duke went the advowsoi
of a living for which the clergyman was being
educated. The Duke heard of it, and one day
asked the lad to be his guide in a ride across the
country, and finding what he had heud to he
true, and being pleased with his companion, the
Duke told him the change of proprietorship is
the land should make no difference as to the
living, which he should receive when he hid
qualified himself for it ; and he was in possesaoo
of it when I knew him. G. E
What Critics are. — I do not know whether
it may interest the readers of N. & Q." to knov
that the sayinj^, now celebrated, of D'Israeli, thit
'' Literary critics are for the most part men whs
have failed in original composition," is not cfOr
ginaL The idea is aptly einpressed in the epil<:^
to Congreve's Way of the World: —
*< Then, all bad poets we are sure are foea,
And how their number's swell'd the town well knovi^
In shoals l*ve marked 'em Judging in the Fit,
Tho' they're on no pretence for Judgment fit.
But that they have been damned for want of wit
Since when they, by their own oflfenoea taasht*
Set up for spies on plays and finding fludt?
It
i.
4««i a VII. JPMB 10, 710
NOTES AND QUERIES.
491
Mtnorr-FruyTi^G.— The eticloaed cutting from
tbe Harrunvard Mail of April 22, being the first
notice of tho diacovery of uiummiea in Indin, from
which importADt historic^^l deductions may he
ejipected, may perhapa not be unacceptable fot
republication In * ' N. & Q.*' : — i
_ •* KuJiMT-HuNTiKO. — General Cunningham, the super- I
iMttndtot of the Arehndlogicfll Sunoy in India, is now |
in L&horr, and mumm^-huoters are inVited to coramuui- |
cate iirith him. The Indian Public Opinion nays t — * We j
think that Bvefythinf; valuable that may bo found should j
bt acnt to Enrope, where alone the men are found who ,
have both the learoiog and the leisure to compflre nnd
<*omTil t'* KPieuiiiic investigation 9. Not bin r would bt*
* ' '>aa and ephemeral thmn to attempt to ereate n ,
) ris in some comer of India. Tho le*9 General
< " -T-u to tabordinate oflScial agency, and i
< raffeft independent inquiry, the g^reator
^•^ - which hi» misiiun will achieve/ '*
K. R. W. E.
**AinTiE LArRiK,"— The birth of this young
ladv, 80 well known to in any of your readers^ is
<|«jdutly recorded by her father Sir Robert Laurie,
of Maxwelltownj in the family register in these
wmrds; —
•• At tti© pleasure of the Almighty God, my dauphtert
Anna Lsnrie, waa borne upon the Ifi*** day of Ducembur,
l*StS2 years, about six oVIucik in the morning, and waa
Lapliaed by M*- Geo." [Hunter, of Glencairn].
And hia own marriage is given in the same qutunt
atyle : —
*• At the pleasxire of the Almighty, I wns married to
my wife Jean RMdell upon tbe L*7»^ dav of JuU*, 1674, in
the Tron Kirk of E di n b , . by M ' A n nane."
These statements I find in the valuable collec-
tloii of manuscripta left by the late Mr. W. F. H.
Arundell, and which bis bod, W. F. Hunter Arun-
dell, Esq., of Baijarg Tower^ Dumfriesshire, has
*ly allowed me to examine and make use of.
ley contain a vast fund of curious information
ipecdng the antiquities and county families of
Dumfriesshire. Many of your readers will know
that Annie was wooed by William Douglas of
Fin gland, in KirkcudbrigbtHhire, Her c bar ma are
thus spoken of in his pathetic lyric, ** Bonnie
Annie Laurie'*: —
** Her brow is like the snaw-flrift,
Her neck i* like the swan,
Her face it is the fairest
That eVr the eun ah one on,
That e*er the sun shone on,
And dork blue is her e'e ;
And for bonuie Annie Laurie
I'd lay roe down and die/*
She was, however, obdurate to his passionate
npn**fil, preferring Alexander Fergusnon of Craig*
d ' whom she was eventually married.
T: I am Douglas was said to have been the
bisro of the well-known song, ** Willie was a wan-
ton wag." Though he was refused by Annie, he
did not pine away in single blessedness, but made
m mnaway marriage with Alias Elisabeth Clerk of
^iiai:
■rhdy
Glenhoig, in Galloway, by whom he had four
eona and two daughteik C» T. Kamaoe.
Pahodtes, — ^The recent mention of parodies in
** N. & Q/' haj* reminded me of some lines which
originated in thifi country, in imitation of the
well-known verse in Moore's LalJa Hookh : —
** I Dever tiur^ed a dear jgAzelle,
To gla^l me with its soft black eye.
But when it came to know me well
And love me, it was suro to die."
Thus imitated t —
'* I never had a piece of toasts
Particularly long and wide.
But fell upon the sanded tloor^
And always on the butter'd side."
And Hood's beautiful little poem commencing^
** 1 remember, I remember,
The bouse where I was bom," —
Has ffi^en rise to an imitation, two verses of
which are —
*• I remember, I re member.
The day that I was b©rn.
When iirat I saw tliia breathing world,
All naked and forlorn.
They wrupp<?tl rae in a linen cloth,
And then in one of frieae;
And tho' 1 could not spoak just then,
Yet 1 contrived to aneezo.
" 1 remember, I remember,
Old ladies came from far ;
Some said 1 was like mother dear.
But othem thought like ptir ;
Yet all agreed 1 had a head,
Aad most expressive ^'es;
Thti tatter were about fta largo
Ai plums in ChrlBtmas pifls.*'
Uneba,
Philadelphia.
Political Sattrtcal Dramas. — I perceive, by
an ftdvertisement in '* N. & Q./' that No. 260 of
the QuarUriif Eevtew contains an article on the
^'lirst Lord Shaftesbury." Not having in thin
remote locality an opportunity of seeing that pe-
riodical, I am curious to learn if any reference is
made in it to what was no uncommon practice in
his lordship^s time, that of introducing real cha-
TtActen on the stage for the purpose of satirising
them. Lord Shaftesbury was so assailed by Dry-
den in an opera entitled Alhion and Alhams. " The
eubject of this piece," as Baker says in his Bio-
ffraphia Dramatica^ ** is wholly aUegorical, being
intended to expose Lord Shaftesbury and hia ad-
herents j'' but neither Baker nor the learned Dr.
Johnson seem to be aware that a more violent and
virulent satire upon the same individual is to be
found in Otway's play of Vetike Prederved,* Baker
quotes Dr. Johnson as truly describing those por-
[* Mr. ChriAtie (it. 429, et ttq.) treats of the attacks on
Shaftesbury by Drvden, Butler, Duke, and Otway. —
492
NOTES AND QUERIES, [4i»avn. Jtnmw,'
tionii of the plaj, now never represcntedf and in
wkich the loading character b Antonio, m ** des-
picable scenes of vile comedy.** All the vices
assigned to Antonio were intended to depict
Anthony ErtI of Shaftesbury : and it was on
account of these very scenes that the play waa a
favourite with Chjirlefl II. These statements are
made from my recollection of what I read in (but
unfortunately did not make a note of J a periodical
entitled TVi* Zh-ama, and published in London in
1821. The probability of its correctnesa r^sts upon
the fact that both parties, at that period of Eng-
lish history, were merciless in their treatment of
each other, and made use of the forms of a drama
to gfi-atify their detestation yf their adversaries.
Look, for instance, to Baker's account of the fol-
lowing pieces: Abdicated Prince ; Thfi Assembly;
Bmtiihed Dttke ; Biemn^t o/P ; Blood}/ Ihtke ;
The Cabal; Vity PMiquis; Cola 6 Fury^ ^'C. lV<?.
An instructive history might be written upon
the political satirical drama as founded by Aris-
tophanes, and perpetuated in Eiix^and until the
lost century. Wm. B. Mac Cabe.
MoncH>atour-dc-Bretagae, Cutci du Nord, France.
TnrE Enjoyment. — That most accomplished
and kindlv country gentleman, the late J. B. S,
MoiTitt 0^ Rokeby, inviting a friend to hia house^
writes (February 1840) m this courteous and
genial strain : — '
*• Ynu fire not ta be in any hurry, but obllffing and
obedient* aT]d to ?«tfly « lon^ visit, and ^c ALlniy favourite
lion^ and tujoy what I ulwaya prefer to all nthtr onjoy-
niLmtf of aocjcty — a fHcnd*!* bouse and flue weather ip the
oountrvj that* which Sir William Temple sav* u like
home hut not hotucJy, and like solitude withoat beiug
lonely/'
C.
DEFrNTTTON OP CoKsoLS. — Mr. D^Israeli, iH)me
time since, in the House of Commons^ referriti}?
to Sydney Smith's mot on the suhject, Ftpoke of
the " sweei simplicity of Conaola,** which has ^one
the round of the press. Unless my menaory is at
fault, the expression nsed by the witty canon of
St. PauVft WH8 ** the tkyant simplicity of the three
per pent^/' * H. A. Kknt^rpt.
Eldon l{(<us^, KeaiTliig.
Saved uy a Fisu. — ^The following cutting fVom
The Timea of April 20 is worthy of a comer in
•* lliat the orcan aljound*? with wonders \s daily l>etng
excjmpliOed, and itddiftu inoiii f»rcihly so than in the
«tpeni?nce of CaptAiii Wiird of the bark Pn)\nd«ncc, of
Ttartlppooh who ban just returned from Datitdc. at
wb^h part he was frow^u up during the late severe winter.
Ha states that djirinir his oatwanl voya|r« to that port, in '
Novembar last, the ahip sprang a severe Icsk durinj^ a i
ICale in the Baltic, and hv% ercw were all but cxhausited
in their eflbrtt at the pam[)s to reduce it* On© day she
auddinaly stopped tonklnf; more water, and evttntualh*
the Tttsel reached Daotzic safely. After tho discharise
Af the cai^ a tearcb waa made for the ]«ak, nsuUing m
the di^ovvry of a hole in the eentn ofoo* af tka after
plitnliM from tbo yiddtn^j; of a knot in the wood, amA m
thi« aperture was wcd[;ed a dead Ash, wboM coDLiimi
mtb tjje vessel when olive had been the evident cmmt *i
the stopnsge of the leale^ and oonseqacot aalvaiioa^ot (Is
ship and oiew.**
The name of the ship is not a HltJ»
abio— "The Providence/*
I remember reading some V * /rt
act of Providence, but have :
Cram ling ton.
CHACcrtt's WoRKa, ed. Stowe, 1
worth noUco, that in Stowe's Supj
Thynne'a edition of Chaucer's Works (Ui
l^'i2), which Stowe heads— ''f[ Hm« ~
certaine woorkes of Gettrny Cbauaei*! wbiolif'
not here tofore been printed, and im pii^iliid
and added to this booke by Jhon Stowe,** tb« '
Balade of three .^tanzas on GentilxteaBe, or Y
not being hereditary, was not only printtd
Wynkyn do Worde (Univ, lib. Oam]ir.)i
by Thynne in his edition of 1C32, at Uu
Scogftn's moral Poem to the Lord^ and Oeiilii'
men of the King's House (where alom? thURiIsi'
is preserved)^ but was also pji
himself on leaf 3**V», col, i\ iri hi- ^
same poem of 8c< t bnclr^i^ bsk
Ther« are a few ti M.-ee in lbs iivil
of the two copies in Stuvve. F* J* F»
i
<aunritK.
irrd in tis
iont illicftte itm
l:-^ Thnile, bAc
Account Ai^CK. — lias this word eT«r been ttMl
by Enjzlish author*, as is to b- =-'' — rj fn:nii Mbi
Thralt**s letter to her jrrau'i
French acceptation of it*< i^^"
ad comifare — ''lisdson >■■,
homme avec une femm*-
which homely English name we all aeein to piK
fer her, writes in February, 1782 ; —
'* Looking over so mo French melangci ym^€tUy, t
obscrvcsi that M, PAbb^ d*Artigny used tile wi«^ t-^ ■*■
ftTfitv; it Wft3 a new tbing (o ine, and oo^ of -Wi ri:l
bud no notion before. Pray bow on»« it into *m. '
gnsfie ? " — Vitle Mr*. Pia«it'$ oollectioii nf Lnittt u
from the talc SamMcI JoAatatwi, LLJ[^,^ 2 "VolLt
urn, vol ii. p. 283-
There is no answer to this question in nut flf
Dr. Johnson's subsequant letters^ wtikh, b v ti#
way, make us lore bim more tban any of hi*Vn«l
works, and well deserve that little s^K*praj« rf
himself aod his letters: ** AmeK ia $omo ;»^
( Vi<k aitt^f ibid, vol. ii, p. 14,)
Germany.
** AiUMAm?fB CHAnfs," — Can mar
ply mo with examples of this fine
than the following ? —
uratoiif J
4«k8.VIL JuiiElO,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
493
.£schyla8, Promethtui, line 6.
M Adamante texto vincire.'*
Seneca, Uercmlet Furaa, 807.
** Bat ber in chaines'of Adamant he tvde ;
For nothing else might keepe her safe and soond.*'
Spenser, Faerie Queene^ book ii. canto xii. 82.
** In adamantine chains and penal fire."
Milton, Faradise Lott, book i. line 48.
''In adamantine chains shall Death be bound."
Pope, Mesnitih, verae 47.
** Bonnd in thy adamantine chain.**
Gray, Hymn to Adversity.
Tttr Kedcbosse KiriOHT.
AiroimcoiTS. — ^I have now in my possession the
following: —
■^The Ivdgement of a most renerend and learned Man,
fkoMhqrond the Seas, concerning a Threefold Order of
Btahopib with a Declaration of certainc other waightie
P^iintsooncemiDg the Discipline and Govemcment of the
Who was the author E Where was it printed ?
What is its date? 1 cannot find it in Bohn*s
Lawmdes, It is bound up with *' A Lamentable
Complaint of the Commonalty," "TheVnlawfull
Practises of Prelates," and '* A Booke of the Forme
of Common Prayers, Administration of theSacra-
mentB, &e., agreeable to Gods Worde^ and the
Vie of the reformed Chvrches."
J. M. COWPKR.
Anttqite Heads in Medt.e\'al Seals.— In the
fifth Tolume of Ardusologia Cantiana are several
seals of Stephen de Thumham, Mabel de Qalton,
MMJ Bobert de Thumham, twelfth and thirteenth
eentnries, which have an interesting feature which
I do not think has been noticed. Each of the
niall counter-seals has in the centre an antique
liead or device, doubtless taken from Roman and
other intaglios inserted in the probably gold seal.
The one at p. 208 appears to be an early Eastern
■gnet with inscription. Could any reader ex-
pfiifi the inscription ? It is not unusual to find
" i inserted in book covers, church
igs ; but I do not remember to
early used afcain as seals.
J. C. J.
BABTLOiriAir Bricks. — In the sun-dried bricks
wliich the Israelites were required to make for
the Egyptians, the chopped straw which they con-
teinea would serve as a binding material, but in
the kiln-baked bricks it would be entirely burnt
sway ; yet we find that the Romans, at a far later
periodi in their kilns at Castor {Dttrobriva) had
wit-rftH vegetable matters vrith the clay walls of the
>n««- What purpose wb» this admixture intended
to serve, and is it ever resorted to in the modem
Bumnftctiire df bricks P M. D.
A CiBiCATxniB QxTEBT.— There is a caricature,
dstod 1817, entitled '* The Horse Marine and his
Trompeter in a Squall," referring to the appoint-
ment of the Marquis of Worcester as a Lord of
the Admiralty. The marquis is represented in
his hnssar uniform, riding a sea-horse in a turbu-
lent sea: beside him swims a water-rat; before
him, floating on a ^' Walcheren log,*' is his trum-
peter, a bald-headed Triton in a harlequin's
jacket Query : Who are the trumpeter and the
water-rat P A. P.
Cleopatra : was she EoTPTiAisr or Greek P —
In M. G^rome's " Cl^opatre apport^e a C^ar dans
un tapis," now exhibited at the Royal Academy,
I was astonished to find Cleopatra represented
with the fleshy sensual features and yellow skin
of an Egyptian woman. I had always looked
upon her as a Greek. M. Gdrome must, no doubt,
think that he has authority for representing her
I as he has done ; [but where does he find his
authority ? 1 have taken some trouble in inves-
tigating the matter, and I cannot discover that
she hadl a single drop of Eg}'ptian blood in her
veins ; and if she had not, surely the residence of
her family in Egypt for some two hundred and
fifty years would not alone suflice to give the
most notorious member of it purely Egyptian
features and Eg}'ptian skin. The Americans of
the United States have not yet become North
American Indians, although some maintain they
are upon the road.
It 18 true that Cleopatra seems to have had two
slight tinges of Persian blood;* and that her
father TIHolemy Auletes) and her mother are said
both ot them to have been illegitimate children
of Ptolemy Lathyrus by an unkaown mother (or
mothers). But even supposing this unknown
mother (or mothers) to have been Egyptian —
which there is no reason to suppose — this and the
tinges of Persian blood would not have converted
a Greek race into a purely Egyptian one.t
The copies of the coins of the Ptolemies, given
in Smith's Diet, of Bom. and Grec. Bioffrapl^ and
Mythoiogify show us thoroughly Grecian flEUses.
Cleopatra's face is less Grecian than the rest, but
only because it is more Roman. But perhaps
these coins are of little value. F. Chakcx.
Sydenham Hill.
Cottle, the Poet. — Joseph Cottle, poet and
publisher of Bristol, the friend of Southey and
Coleridge, and Amos Cottle the poet, were brothers.
From which branch of the Cottle family did they
* Ptolemy Epiphanes married Cleopatra, daughter of
Antiochus fll., or the Great. Her mother, Laodice, wa«
daughter of Mithridates lY., King of Pontus ; and An«>
tiochus I. also married a Persian lady named Apama.
t The practice of marrying their own sisters, so com-
mon among the Ptolemies, would naturally tend to the
perpetuation of the peculiarities of the founders of the
race. Cleopatra, owing to the illegitimacy of her parents,
had the benefit of one and perhaps two crosses; and very
likely, I think, she owed at least a portion of her ability
and heanty to this drcumstanoe.
XOTES AND QUKUIKS. l^"^*-^'"-''"*'^^^
deflc^nsd ? They used the (irma of tbe Cottells of
Nortli Tnwton/Devon; but hitherto I have failed
to trace their conTiectioii with them, nntwith-
8tandinf7 that the uncommon name of Araias or
Anin^ frequently appears in tlie pedigree of that
family during the sixteenth and seventeenth cen-
turies. ^Vny information connected wiili the
descent of these brothers will be thankfully
received. W. IL CoTTELL,
Brixton Road, S.\V.
Loitn Falkland, Dr. Donne, and Sir Ed-
ward Dyer* — Intending to include in the Mi*'
cet/avirH of th^ F*ttlkr JJ'oiihipji' Lihrarjf aa
complete a collection as pn^sible of the hitherto
uncoUected poetiT of Lord Falkland, allow me to
ask readers of ** Isi. & Q/^ to favour me with refer-
ences to any preserved in manuscript or in unlikely
books. I name the latter because one of \\h mo^t
characteristic poems ia found pretixed to an anony-
moui^ funeral sermon for the Counteag of Hunt-
injirdon. 1 know of course I^y Theresa Lewis's
*♦ Memoir of Ix)rd Falkland'' in her admirable
Zu?i?^ of the Cim^endon JFaviili/, and alt^o the pains-
taking articles in the New Seriee of the Gentle'
irums Matfo^ne n8*35-18*J9), as well as the
invariable authorities. What I desiderate are
MSS. (including letters) and books (either or
both) that may be accidentally known t<j indi-
viduals.
Further r as my work on the Fu^kr Worthies*
edition of the complete Poems of Dr. Donne
(with numerous additions from MSS. of rare value
and interest) is well advanced, I ask help in elaci-
dation of the many initials of his poetry ; and
perhaps M. TiEDEMAJf or other Dutch correspond-
ent of " N. & Q." may be able to oblige me with
the title-pa^e and contents of a Dutch translation
of Donne's Fo^nn very amusin^dy referred to by
Llewellyn in bis Man' Miracles (104<J). Or by
Dutch is German meant? I am curious to know
if so early rs 1040 there really was a translation
of Donne's poetry. Finally : can any one inform
me where n copy is prei*erved of Sir Kdward
Dyer's Sice MjUia (1558) ? \. B. Orosart.
St. George *s» Blackburn, Lanc^L&hirc.
F^EEYiNQA Saga. — I have seen in an old
volume of one of the quarterly reviews (I forget
which, and am unable agnin to find it) a review
of this TcelaQtlic f'aga, *' done into English ** in the
year sixteen hundred fuid sonietlun^. As tbe text
of tbe SR*?a wiis not printed till 1832, I presume
this Engl'mh trauHlation must have been made
from the Latin version of Torfieus, published at
Copenhagen in 1095. A reference to tbe review
or any account of the English translation, will
greatly oUige. Wt
Fiction and Fact. — It is not two years since I
read in a magazine a story, the hero of wbicb, a
Jeweller's asaistant, was robbed under much the
-oc^H
all nil
same conditions aa those attendant on th* Tarpey
exploit. I shall be jj^lad to be ren»inde*l when
this hi^rhly inprenious and sn^jte^tive iisttb^vs
appeared. 1 believe it was in (V/"' *- -' '^'
Perhaps Mr. and Mr?. Torpi^y
accustomed to improve their niinu, :.... \\k.
8t. ^w
Fire at MBTHERrNGHAM, — The Com\
Journals, vol. vii, p. 680, contains the notice aft
presf^ntation to the House of Conn nous, z*n Jnuf
1650, of the petition of Edward Shon* and '"
liani Dickenson, on behalf of themselv^H, ,,^,1
inhabitants of Metheringham, in th
Lincoln, praying- for ** a publick coot: j?"
their loss by tire." A certificate under tbe haodf
of sievernl j usticea of peace was annexed.
Crtn any one inform me where I sliaU find aij
further account of this catastrophe? Can tka
original petition and certificate be in existence
Edwakij Peaci
Bottcsford Manor, Brigg.
Garroons or Garrons.— Can sny one 1^11
the meaninjc of this word — perhstps Irish P Vl
occurs several times in \Vhitelock*-'s MefHittiak,
in enumerating? the animals taken from tiia lak
rebels : for instance, '* They took about 900 ph
TOOUBj 300 cows, and 400 sheep and goats "; «r
again, "They took many hundreds of cows sod
garrons." ' T- W. Wisi.
[A ^rron is a small horse, a galloway*, that ia* a hoot
not more than foiirt(*en hand-^ high, much umd in tk
North, tSpehnan snys, "Jumenta* seu eabsni eolaoil^
am in Ireland caWed garrunM, a stroDg honik ahsdoif
or work horse'*]
Glatton (4^ S. viL S64»440.)— Th©"OUtt«'
man-of-war, lately launched, is, I believe, Oiowi
after an armed merchant vessel^ called aUo <b
'* Glatton/* and which, in the last war betwwB
England and Frauce^ was engaged in a despanl*
and Bucce*-ifu! action with two or more fwKi
ships. This armed merchant vessel waa, I beUeT^
fitted out by some traders at Glatton, a pbet ia
Cornwall, I think. Perhaps those mow fopfnniM
than myself in having books in which
the necessary information on tbe si
establisli my statement as true, or upi^i it.
H. A. St. J.
Herbert. — On the Puddledock eatalia
George county, Virginia, is a laiig^
erected to the memory of Joha Herbert,
tbe following inscription : —
**Herp lyeth interred the body of John 0«rb«T,tk
son of John Herbert, apothecnn% and gmndAon UMd^
Herbert^ citken of Looilon, who depart^rd thU Hit ikm C*
daye of March 1704, in the ifi**" year of bU ag«u*
Above the inscription is a crest sad €ioit »
arms : the former representing a bundk of
arrows, pointa downwards ; and the Uttar
lions rampant
leUttarJfl^
4»i»S.VII. JcxElO,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
495
fVom whom was this Richaid Herbert (circa
1650) descended ? Ndolod.
JSAH DE MiLON. —
** Jean de Milon, a famons physidan, who wrote in the
Mventeenth century, and addressed bis aphorisms to a
king of England.^—J/oft and Gtteit, by A. Y. Kirwan.
London, 1864^ p. 261.
I shall be greatly obliged by any information as
to whether his works have been published, and if
so, where and when. T. W. C.
CuL, CoxTL. — ^This is a common prefix to place-
names in Scotland, probably of Celtic ori^. One
of the Ochills is called Coul, and in Kossshire
' there is a large property of the same designation.
We have Caulbum in Strathclyde, Cuicairti in
the counties of Inverness and Ross, and Culchum
in Argyleshire. Are we to consider Cu/loden an
example of the same prefix ? Is Ctdt, which also
appears, to be considered of the same origin?
(Suter appears in the counties of Aberdeen,
Peebles, and Lanark. Can anyone give us a
meaning which will be ap][>licable to moat of these
place-names? In the Irish language we have
CuUan said to mean " place of hazels." CoU, Is
this connected with the Scotch Cidlen?
J. WK.
Jewish Marriage Rings. — ^There are certain
large rings which are broad and much ornamented
in the hoop, and have, by way of a bezel, a small
house, temple, or tabernacle projecting from them.
They are generally called Jewish marriage rings,
and have usually a Hebrew inscription on them,
meaning, I am told, " Good be with us." I have
been very credibly informed that no such rings
are used in the Jewish marriage ceremony ; and
I should esteem it a favour if any one can inform
me whether they are really Jewish marriage rings
or not, and whether they are, or ever were, used
in the Jewish marriage ceremony. K they were
used in former times, when tfiat usage ceased?
And if they are not used at such marriage, what is
their use and meaning ? The universal Hebrew
inscription seems to favour the idea,
I have a large and very broad gold hoop ring :
Toond the top and bottom of the noop is a thick
twisted cord or rope ; and the intermediate band
of the hoop is composed of three groups, repre-
senting the Creation of Eve, the Temptation, and
the Expulsion from Paradise. These groups are
ornamented with translucid enamel; and being
pierced work, there is a lining. I am told that it
IB a Jewi^ ring. There is, however, no Hebrew
inscription, and I doubt if the Jews would have
made a graven image of the Creator. Can any
one tell me what the use and intention of that
ring may have been ? It is nearly an inch deep,
•nd an inch across.
I am very anxious to obtain a sergeant's ring.
They are very uncommon, though vast numbers
must, or at least ought to have been made. What
becomes of them all P for one never sees them in
shops or sales. Where am I likely to meet with
one P OcTAvius Mobgak.
10, Charles Street, St. James's.
Kalksdib. — ^There is a curious use of this word
in Wydif 's Semums, lately published under the
editorship of Mr. Thos. Arnold. WycHf is speak-
ing of the knowledge that shall be given to the
blessed : " And in tokene of kalendis of ]>is Poule
telli]> of himsilf how he was caught up into
heaven," &c. (ii. 263.) And again ^on the next
page^ : '' pe )>ridde hevene is by undirstonding, as
seintis seen that ben in blisso ; and kalendis of )ns
&i3t hadde Poul whan he was ravyshid." Mr.
Arnold's note is, that the word ''seems to be used
in the sense of * first-fruits * or ' initiation.' " Can
any of your correspondents give me another in-
stance of the word being usea in this way P
F. D. M.
Liturgical Query. — Can any of your Catholic
readers inform me when XheOfficium Deftmctcrum
in its present form was first used, and (if known)
by whom it was composed ? And especially, how
early in the history of the Church can traces be
found of the use of the De Profundis and of lec-
tions from the book of Job. in connection with the
obsequies of the departed P Sarisburisnsis.
Maimed Soldiers. — On June 13, 1659, a com-
mittee of the House of Commons was ordered to
prepare
*' A list of the names of maimed soldiers and widows
now in pay in the Savoy and Ely house ; and of what
country each of them severally are : what pensions are
payable to them, and how they may be provided for in
the several counties or otherwise." — Com, Jour, vii. 682.
Is this document still in existence, and if sO;
where ? Edward Peacock.
Bottesford Manor, Brigg.
Sir John Mason {4'^ S. vii. 365, 420.WI
would feel extremely obliged if P. M. could tell
me whether Sir John Mason married a daughter
of the Lord Audley, and how many sons he had,
and what is known of their descendants in the
second generation ? H. M.
Medals of Oliver Cromwell. — I should be
pleased if any subscriber could throw any light
upon the following paragraph, as to which par-
ticular medal is referred to ; whether it was any
die of Thomas Simon's, or one engraved by the
Dutch in imitation of his : —
" Northampton Mercury, July 10th, 1738.
London, Jnly 6.
** A Curious Dye of Oliver Cromwell, cut in London
during bis Usurpation, was lately purchased in Flanden,
and brought to the Tower, where the Hon. Richard Anm-
dell, Esq. has given leave for a certain Number to be
struck in Gold and Silver for the Curious."— Vide NumU-
nuUie Chronicle, old series, voL xL p. 103.
NOTES AND QtJERIDS- ii*^B.Yii.Juwmio,nu
la any medal known to exiat like that engraved
by Vertue in his Wotk^ of J^wion, plate Xli: —
^Bxnftll oval, size 1 inch by f inch ; one aide only
Dgraved ; with three-quurtwr face bust to right,
i ftrnaouj, bare-lieaded. Inscription: "niTIlERTO.
ATH . THE . LORD . HELPED . Ts.*^ No medal
^ tlie kind is in the British Mu$eurn, and I have
Herer seen or nth^^rwise hear^i of a specimen. I
may add that Vertue's en«navin;r is merely copied
by rinkyrton in his MedafHc Hi^onj,
I should abo be thnnliful to receiye any other
infonuntiou respecting unpublished or rare coina
and medals of Oliver Cromwell.
Hekrt W, Henfrbt,
Markbam IldUfi^, Brighton^
Pardon, ICrUO.^The following fragment \r from
the Odding^ton (Glouc.) register: —
^* iiA oxatinplcs to all tbe inhabitAnti
. , . who shall daely subscribe iheir names lieretietn,
«ntl , , . acceptation of the said Gracious Ptirdon to
be enf4«rQd. .... Registi^r booke of pish of Odington
aforoeajdf and hereunto mbaenbe oar names the leavcnth
day of June; In the ycaro of cntr Lord one Thoasand
'xe hundred and sixty —
Wfllinrn'Tray, Minbtor of the Gospel at
TMin^on.
Job in r" , ^'- irchwardon.
Kid I I lu Constable.
John < \ iverseer of the poor(^.
John tjtiv, li^jbert Groro. John Iini, Jon'.
Rohert Uenlv, WillUm \Veal&,
Will. Barker>
Can any one supply what ia wanting from any
lik« entry, or give information on this frag-ment ?'
Datiu Rotce.
Parish Kegisters op Barbados (4*'' S. vii.
387.) — Will A. please give an account <\t these
registers^ their present condition, earliest dates,
and aome of the earlier names ? l>rn*.i the name
of Cutt or Cutt^, of Floel or Ilowell, and of
Vaughnn, occur in tbem ? T.
Professions.— I shall be glad to be referred to,
or to rt3ceive from, aorae correiipondent an accurate
definition of the word professimt as deecribing the
mode by whioh a man earns hia livelihood. I do
not tiad it in the newe.^t dictionaries or encTclo-
p.TdiftB, The ** learned ** profeaaionB are, I know,
divinity, law, and phyaic; but there its also the
** profession of arms," which applies, f snppoee,
equally to the army and navy ; and many others
claim to be included in the class of professional
men^ as accountants, architect*, auctioneers, whose
status is at present ill-defined. W. Q. J.
A. U. Club.
The Athmetum^ but have not succ^^ --
covering its pre'^ent pli\ce of deposit. it
the lateGeorge Piym©, M,R, muat h .4
It at Home period of his life, for in >
graphic Mecolkcticrm^ p. 4, are aome exuaculiott
it relating to his own family. Can it be pQiAI»
that among his papers may be fotmd & auno-
randum stating who is the preieiit OfwnerP
EBwamD Pbaooci,
SEtDEK*s Ballads^ stc.^ — The last lame of lb
Surtees Society, the Diar^ of AbrcAam 4i k
Pry me, the JSatJield AnUfpmrtf] contjuna a itith
ment that —
^' Mr. Selden, the famous aatlauaix, ff*tii«rid ap d
the old ballt'ts be could meet with, and wmiUt faoM
there was moro truth in them than tliara frat in wa^d
our hiftorian>."— P. 67.
This memorandam waa mnAe in Angofk, I6l6t
Sel den's books are most of them in tli<> Bd&ii^
but I do not think hi^ collection of balltii ii
among them. Can any one tell wbero it uf
It is atated in another place —
that the preabtterl 1 ' hive latdty eavt
niiole hmhj of : by Clti '
hangman, and with
Earth:*
_ .Vcw TkofTf ^1k
Sandtojt Rbgistf.r. — The register of the
French chapel of Sandtoft, on the level of Hatfield
Chaae, was in existence within the lost fiflty or
sixty years. I have made inquiries for it through
the medinm of " N. k Q.," • of The Tinm and
[• See S^J a iv. 71, 99 ; 4'** S. r. 505.]
Bid this reallj happen^ or ia it but a bit of i^
gossip P A.aV.K
AjfCiBKT Service. — In a tliirtaenth-Cfiitar
Psalter^—wbich has for centurit*a been in &glui(
being still in its Sfteenth-century Bogliah 1ri]i4ii|;
and having as usual the word "papa^' and thi! dboi
of ** S. Thos. Cant'' erased — ^there are the folloirtaf
names, whose country and datisa I should likf b
know : G alii can us, Momelphus ; Gtindulphiii at
Guadulphu«, Arnulphus, Trudo Oda^ FoULnna
Chunibert, itlodesanJis. Is it An^rlo-Nonnifl?
In the Litany is a prayer "Pro esercitu Fi«-
cortiui.'-
2. At the end is a very long eemea—
nativitate B. M. YLrg."; in wlnrli. Lv wnr ^f*
v«r8ation, we have : "VoxCIt
** Vox eoclesifB ad Christum ' . - ,
adolescentulos." Wen? tbeae penontfttad m
miracle pla3's ? Is this service known f
I CI
LORD PALMERSTON^S DISMISSAL ]
OFFICE.
(4^'' S. V. 576; vi. 3S, 121, 204, 288.)
If I have not sooner replied to ibe ibor^M
as you well know, dear Mr, Editor^ bi'iiw IJ
only now coming into the pitiiuving jhmsM^
the numbers of '^N, & Q.'^ which apfiMUtl^
ing the war, and the No. 144 I was iM^#|
only just reached mc — Qod kmiwi fil «
4«kB.VILJuins 10,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
497
horrible cucamstaaoes, when one's mind is oyer-
whelmed by the unheard-of calamities of our
beloved Paris ! One can think on little else, as
you will OMily conceive when —
" Proximns ardet
Ucalegon ! '*
and that at every moment you may learn that
your own house is petroltzed and on ire. Still I
must needs seek for some diversion to my too
painful thoughts.
In speaking (p. 204) of Lord Palmerston's dis-
™i<M"^1| I did m fact transcribe the note 'literal as
it is," and I very respectfully venture to say to
your venerable correspondent (for, if I err not, it
was E. L. S. who said somewhere in '^N. & Q."
^ I have a more than boyish remembrance of the
noddy as far back as 1791 ") I see nothing in my
note that could induce hini to think '* it might
have been,*" much less that it could '' certainly
appear to him " what the French journalists call a
eomm%iniquS ; but we are always inclined to believe
what we wish. Some day I hope to be able to
eammmiiquer to you, Mr. Editor, Lord Palmorston's
original to Wfdewski by way of proving my
" voudier."
In the first part of E. L. S/s note (p. 288)
your worthy correspondent says, "The ^Vench
ambassador m London, who was Uiereby made as
thorough a traitor,*^ &c. : but in the second he
aays, *' Walewski (whose innoccttce of the coup is
a curious ingredient in the matter.") Innocence
and treason are far apart —
'' Utmm homm mavis acdpe ! "
Now allow me to transcribe a passage from The
SUmdard at that period. It is intituled
" Lord Palmenton^i Resignation Explained, — Wo have
TtasoD to believe that the following; is a correct account
of the cause and manner of Lord Palmerston^s resigna-
tion : — On 8rd of December, the day nftcr Louis Napo-
leon's coup d'Httt, Count Walewski saw Ix)rd Palmerston,
and in the way of conversation entered into the reasons
whicfa had induced the President to adopt so bold and
coEtraordiDary a measure, discussed the previous anoma-
lous state of parties in France, and the rival claims of
the Lepitimist*, Orleanist.>«, and Socialists, the assertion
of which by either party tended directly to a ciWl war,
and finally assured Lord* Pal merston of the earnest desire
<if the President to maintain friendlj- relations with the
Bnglish government. Lord Palmeriiton replied that he
had only heard of the coup d'etat through the newspapers,
that it was neither the policv nor the intention of her
Majesty's government to meddle with the internal affairs
of France, that no doubt the state of parties in France
was inimical to the stability of the Republic, and that it
mpeared to him the saooess of the President would save
ft«noe firom a civil war, and was therefore preferable to
the triumph of anv of the other parties. This conversa-
tion took place before any of the details of the coup d'^t
wmi) known in England, and, we believe, Count Wa-
lawaki immediately communicated the substance of it to
Ua own government. Either on the same day, or within
one or two days after, Count Walewski saw Lord John
Bnssdl, Lord J^nsdowne, Lord Grey, and Sir Charles
Wood, ail of whom expressed themselves substantially to
the same effect as Lord Palmerston. A despatch after-
wards arrived from the Marquis of Normanbv, inquiring
if we were to recognise the government of Louis Napo-
leon ; which, as a matter of course, was promptly replied
to in the affirmative by the Cabinet. Lord Xormanby
formally communicated this answer to the French Foreign
Office on Saturday, 6 th December. The French govern-
ment, which was not too friendly with the noble marquif,
was nettled at the delay, and took occasion to inform him
that they had been aware, some davs previously, of the
friendly dispositions of the English Cabinet; at the same
time conveying to him verbally their ambassador's ac-
count of his conversation with Lord Palmerston. Upon
receiving this intelligence Lord Normanby, it is said,
wrote to Lord John Russell in a tone of complaint A
correspondence thereupon ensued between Lord John
Russell and Lord Palmerston; the former requiring to
know whether Lord Palmerston had had anj' conversa-
tion with Count Walewski without the previous know-
ledge of the Cabinet, and the latter avowing that he had,
and averring that it would be impossible to carry on the
duties of his office if the Foreign Minister had to consolt
his colleagues prior to every conversation between him and
a foreign ambassador. The result of this correspondence
was, that Lord Palmerston was requested to resign— an
event which we believe was as startling to everj' one of
the Cabinet, except the noble Premier (though afterwards
submitted to by tnem), as it was to the whole of Europe.
It would appear, therefore, that Lord John Russell con-
sidered that a Secretary of State for Foreign Aflairs is
not justified in holding a conversation with a foreign
ambassador upon a subject connected with his depart-
ment without the previous sanction of the Cabinet; but
that it is competent to a first minister to dispense with
the services of so important a member of the government
as the Foreign Secretary, without any previous commu-
nication with the Cabinet ; and to dispense with hU ser-
vices also, for doing precisely what the first minister
himself and others of his colleagues had done." —
Standard,
But, as "one good turn deserves another," in
Feb. 1852, Lord John Russell, who ha^J thus
ousted Lord Palmerston, was Iwaten in the House
(see The Titnes) on an amendment of Lord Pal-
merston, and forthwith resigned. P. A. L.
MURAL PAIXTING IN STARSTON CHURCH,
NORFOLK.
(4}^ S. vi. gMssim: Tii. 40, 172, 245, 368, 410.)
F. C. H. replies to my communication at p. 410
with no little heat. Were it not so, I mignt be
disposed to express a regret that anything should
have fallen from me to awaken his susceptibilities.
As it is, his tone, to speak mildly, is such as to
relieve me from any ''compunctious visitinga.^'
I have " invented,'' says he, " a new theory " on
this subject. The old' " theory " is not then, I
suppose, " invented " by himself. As he atill
clings pertinaciously to it, it is due to Aim, to
myself, and to your readers, that I should now
prove, what I llefore asserted, that it is utterly
« untenable."
First, then, I must refer to the narrative of the
'* Death and Assumption of the Viririn,*' as ffiven
given
498
NOTES AND QUERIES.
io the Letfmda Aw^a. Your limited space for-
bids me to quote in ejtefuo, I shall tberefore only
take one little pasaago which is apt, and is of
itself destructive of R C. 11. 's ** theory " fts it
shows that the soul of the Virgin was immedi-
ately received by the arms of Chmt, therefofe not
as in the Starston painting. Thus the legend,
** eicque MarifB anima de corpore eCTeditur et m
uhim Jiiii advohvH,^* &c. Of the mterpretation
thftt art gave to tiie history I shall now speak.
The subject ba^ two phases ; one, the assumption
of the soul, the other that of the body. It is of
course the first that F. C. H, refeisi to. In the
Guide of the Ureek Church pubiiabed by M.Didron,
which contains ancient formula for the artiat's use,
is found this one i —
*^ A house- In the iiudst the holy Virgin, dead, laid
npon ii bed, the handa crossed upon her breast. On each
aide, Dear the tied, great torches and lighted tapers. Be-
fore the bed, a Hebrew, whww hands, cut oft; are attached
to the bed, and near him an angel with a naked sword.
At the feet of the holy Virgin, S. Peter (sensing with a
Cfinser, At her head S! Paul and S. John the Evangelist,
who embrace it. AJl around the other Apoatlea and the
holy bi-*hofv!i« S. Deni^, the Areopagite, Jerothy and
Timothy hnldinf? the Gospela. Women in tears. Above ^
Christ holding in hi* amtt £Ae toul of iA« koi^ Virgin
chtked t» white/*
lix Afi^incourt's Hhtoire de VAH^ ete,^ Is an
engraving from a Ruthenic picture of this subject,
date the eleventh century. It exhibits a treat-
ment very similar to the above formula, having
the incident of the Hebrew, the ani^el with the
Bwordj the Virprin on a bed or bier with anna
crossed ; above, Christ within an irradiated aureole,
holdijip- the aoul of the Virgin* Thus the narra-
tive, the formula, and the illustrationa are in
accord. But to show the pcraistence of eccle-
siastical art conventions, in my copy of the Catti-
Itgtu Srtttctorunf^ date If^tB, is a email woodcut
having the same general treatment, though with
the omisaion of some minor details ; the main
features are the same^ although tivc centuries
stand between them. I cite the^ instances as ready
to my hand, but any one having the time will add
plenty others to this list in one morning's study
amongst the MSS. in the British Museum. In
France, the west fronts of Amiens, Notre Dame at
Paris, and very many others, will supply examples
of like character. In fact there is no subject in
medinjval art upon which there is less excuse for
error than m this. But it is a curious fact, and
3>t on the present occasion, to note that M,
idpoD, in his Icotioffraphie ChrMiennef warns us
not to confound the Assumption of the Viigin
TKith that of St. Mary Magdalene. F. C. H, rerere
to two woodcuts in his poasesaion representing the
** Death of the Virgin, which he says are treated
like the Starston painting. But he does not say
if be there ee^s the soul being conveyed by angels
m a simil.nr mann«^r. In fact he implies the con-
trary when he says he merely referred to that
incident as corroborative. So far, however, fawa
It being " corroborative," it is of itaelf di
of his " theory." But for that he might
case, though a feeble one ; with that it *
impossible, as the narrative in the lei^ _
show. He tells us the figure holding the
agrees with representations of St. Peter.
the exception of one point, the tonsuie, it
with every example I have seen, and witff tin
characteristic type so well known in med is&i
For the latter I refer to an instance in
ston's work on Painted Glms^ as well a« ^
brass at Upper Hardres, Kent, published by mi
self. Both agree with each other, though of dt
ferent dates, in that typical treatment by which
this saint is known. The figure with dmed
hands is St. James^ but which of the two he doo
not say. It is immaterial ; there is no distiih
guishing character. The figure in the oope is St
John : but St. John is always represented, exeepi
when at Patmos, as a youth with flowing or carted
hair. I have two tracings from painted pliwp, t
drawing from a figure in Henry ^^I,*s CMyl
and several examples from brasses, all haviu. il
same character. The figure in the Staistoo pumS-
ing is (I think) tonsured ; St. John, in m lat-
perieace, is never so. But I have called tit
cope a chasuble. F. C. H. says, having wnm ^oi
for half a century, he ought to know wbal t
chasuble is. Very possibly ; but if the oharalit
was that extremely ugly, stiff^ ungmnly vegtmal
now 80 usually worn, 1 could not be surpristidif
he did not see one in th© Starston planting. "
experiences are from the thirteentn, fourii
and fifteenth centuries. But whj does '
point out the other Apostles P For insf
Paul^-a figure never to be mistaken in nu ,
art — and who, of course, he knows should be
sent? I wiU answer: because he is nt^t tlim.
Instead of St. Paul, he points out the lady ** 8e»*,
phia,'' on which I shall say no more than this: it
IS the first time she ha9 ever made her anpe«jiMi{
in this subject, and I doubt not it wflfbe tbi
last.
Not having the engraving by my side, I uihi.
postpone a reply on the joints raised by F, C. Hi«|
but I will here say that if he sucx:eeda in el
me such weaknesses in my " theory ^ ae to .
it as untenable as I have shown his to be, I vill
throw it away at once to foUow hia. Pn>babl?«i
shall tben» by clearing the ground, be more Jui^
to arrive at the truth, and by ^* indii^cticiaiM
direction.'* out." I trust it will be long en Of
mind arrives at that unhealthy, inehutie itti»
which would lead me to hold, for a sin|^o
to that which baa proved to be an error. I
claim, a portion of your space on a future
which m the more necessary as F. C. IL,
a want of good faith, on my |karty TCspeeti^gll*
4*»»S.Va Jy3«EiO,TlO
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
49S
lafrend of St. Mary Magdalene. I shall ahow, by
a qtiolation firom my authority, that it is as un^
waxranted tia it is imwarraQtable.
68, Bolflover Stwt, W. J. O. Waller.
{Totte conehidtd m our next}
THE PASSIKG BELU
(4'*» S. vii. 388.)
The peculimities reepectinj^ the (now so-called)
pftsiiin^-ben are far more numerouB than J. A. G.
can imaipne, both as regards the tolling to dis-
tinguish the sexes^ and also the time, fm the fol*
lowing cases wiU show.
At Bangor Iscoed, in Flintshire, the bell is
tolled twelve hours after death, and then the dis-
tinction of five tolls for a girl, six for a boy, seven
for a woman, and eight for a man ; and in the
Cheshire churches we find that at Bowdon a
minute-bell is tolled at six oVlock every evening
preceding the day of interment ; while at Wren-
Vury the beU tolls every morning in the interval
between decease and interment, and at ten o*clock
for an hour on the day of the funeral, if requeated.
At Tarvin tlie bell is tolled the night before the
funeral for persons above seven years of age, and
on the morning for persons under seven; at Lower
Peover, the evening before the funeral for an hour,
from aeven to eight for six months of the year,
and from six to seven the other bix months ; at
the end of the hour the six bells are tolled each
three times for a male, twice for a female ; whilst
^B^ Alderley the tolling is only for twenty minutes
^Bbe preceding evening, when the same distin-
■Sniifiiiing strohes are given as at Peover. At
BBedbury the tolling is in the evening before the
Ibneral at eight o'clock, after which the distin-
guishing tolls of hve for a child, seven for a
woman, and nine for a man are given. At Acton
the tolling takes place the preceding evening, after
whirh, on the smaller bell, is given one stroke for
a child, t%vo for a woman, and three for a man.
At Church Hulme a bell is tolled the night before
the funeral for an hour, after which each of the
six bells is struck three times, and three times
Tound if the deceased be a male, either a child or
man, and twice round if it be a female. At Til-
«ton all the four bells are *' knocked round" in
aucct?8sion, beginning with No. 4, three times if
the death is that of a male, twice if that of a
female, each bell being struck twelve or fifteen
times In succession; and on the morning of the
fimera], bell No. 1 is tolled for a certain time
(Moording to circumstances) till the corpse is in
dlgllt« when all the bells are chimed till the pro-
oemon stops at tbe lych gate. At Eastham the
dIatinctloQ is given by three times three for a
tamle^ and three times two for a female. At Brom-
bofough a dt/ferest introductory ringing to dis-
tinguish the BeXf and then the age of the deceased
in years is tolled ; while at Davenham, the evening
"before the funeral, three strokes for a male and
two for a female are given on the four bells, after
which a number of single strokes are givon
amounting to tbe age of deceased.
At Audi em a peal of three or four bells ia
rung as soon as tne funeral cortege is seen ap-
proaching. At Coppenhall the bell is tolled the
evening before a funonil, and chimed in the morn-
ing when the body comes within a short distance
of the church. At Wettenhall the tolling takes
place on tbe removal of a body from any house on
the green for interment, whether at the parish or
any neighbouring church ; and at Wybunbury the
Sasstng bell ifl not rung (I believe) except on the
eath of one of a family named Cobbe,
'* Trentals or trigintals were a number of masses,
to the tale of thirty, said on account, according to
a certain order instituted by St. Gregory/^ —
Ayliffe, Parergmu
** At Morn and Even, beaidca tbeir anthems sweet,
Thdr psay Mjuses, and iheir Complynea mectt
Their Dirges, their Trentah, and their Sbrifta,
Tbdr Meraori<98» their Singings, and their Gifta."
Spenaer'a 3Sothtr HuhhenT» Tale.
Cbstter, Eobeet Morris.
Surely thre© times three tolls for a man, three
times two for a woman, must have been explained
in some of the former volumes of *^ N. & Q."
H. T. E.
An old homily for Trinity Sunday declares that
the form of the Trinity was found in man: that
Adam, our forefather of the earth, was the first
person ; Eve of Adam, the second person. Further,
at tbe death of a man three bells were to be rung
as his knell in worship of the Trinity, and two
bells for a woman, as the second person of the
Trinity. See Fosbroke, ed. 1843, p. 267 ; Honeys
Evert/flai/ Bonk^ voL i. p. 724 j also Penni/ Cyc/o-
pmlia^ vol iv. p. 188.) G, IL T,
8E0DOUNE, SEGGIDUN, ETC.
(4"» S. vil. S90,)
As one who reads by what has been called "the
false light of Celtic resemblances," I hardly think
your correspondent Espedahe will be much edi-
fied with my views in regard to the names about
which he desires my opinion. Sigge was a title
of Odin, and was also a proper name borne by the
Northmen, Segdoune, the site of the abbey of
Kilwinning, Segdoun or Seggiedun * near Perth,
• The Northmen, «fter their converHion ta Chriathuuty,
retained certain forms of their idolntroujt womb i p. It U
not inipoflsible tb»t Seggiedun tnay hftvo de^df^ated lb«
h Ul or eminonce on which uader tbia title they worshipped
their gud Odin.
500
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«*S.VII.JuHKlO,7L
now called Seggieden, seem to contiun the Norsk
personal name Sigf?e, and Scandinavian dun from
the Gothic idwi* a mountain or precipice. Fer-
gusson mentions the place called SipQcthivaifey^
for which he cites the authority of an ancient
charter of Shap Ahbey. Thivaitc, Norwepian
thveitf Danish teed, a piece of land cleared in a
forest. In this we find an explanation of the ter-
minal portion of the Pictish place-name Fortevht,
absurdly called Celtic. J There is Sigtun in
Sweden, probably derived from this appellative
of Odin used as a personal name. '* Gamock,"
Glengamock,§ are also Norse. Many Scotch rivers
are designated from personal names of the
Northmen. Some rivers were named from the
adjacent lands, more frequently place-names from
the rivers. There are the Garry = Scand. personal
name Gari, and Crummen = personal name Kruniy
and Old Norse din, the river. Rspedare dis-
courses of " ancient works of a Celtic race by no
means uncommon in the district." Whore are
these, and by what evidence has their Celtic
origin been determined ?
Although not immediately related to the sub-
ject of inquiry, I would remark, in pa5»sing, a name
mentioned by your correspondent, viz. ** Edward
Biom," High Constable under David I.,|| this,
* It is ridiculous to call a term Otitic which is found
in every dialect of the Teutonic. Tlic Gotha, Teutons,
Picts or early Scandinavians, S<'andinavians proper
(Danes and Xorthmen), and Anfi:lo-Saxons (improperly
80 calle<i), one and all u.sed this word ; the G««ths anil
Picts apparently in the ft)rnis (»f iV/wn, c/mw, and duwl —
tbo last identical with the Sanscrit, f'ruoi whicli, or I'roin
some dialect nearly related, an', descended the Greek,
Gothic, and Slavonic : for example, the name t)f the rock
(now removeii) which pave its name to tljo town of
Dundee was originally called Z>ri;uic = Sanscrit, (iothic,
dumt, and e or a, water, a river.
t There is also Seg«;ic', Kinrossshire ; Seg^jie, Fif«» ; Sep-
giehole, Lanark ; Seggat, Aberdeen ; Sej^piecrook, Itanll.
X The name Teviotdale has obviously the same origin.
§ Mit. Cir.vujfocK tells us (see " X. & C^.," 4*'' S. iv.
52*2) that •' the word (Jltn can have lume other than a
Celtic orij;in,'' a statement wliich I would counsel the
reader to accept cum <jrano sulis. Gothic and Icelandic
(/i7, a ravine or fissure of a moimtain, from NorMi //////v, to
open out, to tear asunder, Icelandic and l)ani«*h deiinite
articles hinn (in composition inn), r/i, GU-inn, Uil-cn =
the ravine, in the obsolete Gothic speech which mingles
with the liinguage called \Vel>»h, (wl-yn. The old-fa-shioned
natives of Korfarshire pronounce, or did so in time past,
this word in two syllables, (!il-in ; in England, and in
the modern dialect of the Scottish Lowlands, modilied to
Glen. Ttntc : (ilenr/f)«ar, Glen/ocArr, Glenrov, Glencir*/-e/,
Glen/fmir/, and a host of others. Norse personal names,
Gunnar, Loker, IIn»i, Arnkell, Finnr.
11 Mr. Cosmo Innes says that, long 1>}foro this reign,
high officers of state ami attendants of the court were
SuLon or Danisb,of whom, among others during this king's
reign and that of his brother f^lgar, he gives the names
Ult, Hemming, Eamulf, Oter, llior, Algar, Osbem, Cnut,
Carl, Ogga, Sweio, Eilav, Hwite, Alwin fitz Arkil, Osolf,
Orm, Dodin, one and all Scandinavian.
with scarcely any change, being the ScaQdinavian
Biom. J. Ck. R.
Cowel (Interpreter) gives Segedimum = Seghill,
in Northumberland ;5Segelocum and Segelogum=
Aulert and Littleborrow, co. Nottingham,' and
Agio, CO. Lincoln ; and Sigtima, Segorbe (*S<y-
ohriffa)f Segovia, Segeberg, Siegberg, Seckiogen.
Seckenheim, are local names in Continental
Europe. Some of tlh^se may be from A.-S. $i4fe^
segey sigor, victory, triumph ; 0. Norsk siar, Franc
et Alam. sigo, lories, et 0. G. sieg (whence the
proper names Sigimerus, Sigismimdus, Sigebertiu,
Sigericus). Sige-diin might be rendered " hill of
victory"; but it is more probable that most of
these geographical names are from a river name.
Siegburg, in R. Prussia, is said to have its name
from the river Sieg (anc Segus), Conf. Siegen, in
Westphalia, on the Sie^ or Siegen ^ Siegenbui]^,
in Bavaria ; Siegelsbach, in Baden. Sieg, as a river
name, may be etymologically the same name as
Tag, the letters t and s and y and a being respec-
tively interchangeable. R. S. CiiARXOd.
Gray's Inn.
P.S. tSig is the name of two rivers of Algeria;
and Sign of a river and town of MauritaauL
THE ORIGIN OF ARCHBISHOP STAFFOBa
(4»'» S. vu. 25a, 350.)
The register of Canterbury Cathedral recoidi
in its list of obits there celebrated, " 4 non. Sept,
Kmma Stafford, mater Dni Jobannis Stafford,
Archpi.'* Iler name, then, was Stafford : and if
the archbishop was a son of Sir Humphrey Stif-
ford, he was apparently a legitimate one. Sop-
Ensinjr, then, that Sir" Tlumphrey StatTord wi*
is f^ither, which Sir Humphrey was it of the
three who follow in succession ?
Humphrey (1) married the daughter and heir
of Gremvil, and widow of John Cobham d
Blakeburgh. She was dead July li>, 14L'0, tad
there is a presumption that her name was Kathe-
rine.
Humphrey (2), sumamed Silverhand, who diid
1413, before Nov. 28, married Elizaboth, daoffh-
ter of Robert Cefrewast, and widow of John
Maltravers, junior; she died 1413, the sameyetr
as her husband.
Humphrev (3) married Elizabeth, daughter and
coheir of Sir John Maltravers and Elizaheth
above-named, between 1380 and 131^ : she died
after 1417, ho in or about 1419.
John Stafford was consecrated Archbiahoprf
Canterbury in 1443, succeeding Chichele, anddM
May 35, 1452. The evidence of dates tends if i
show that he was the son of No. 2 (if of d* j
family at all) ; and that No. 2 miut have had i
former wife before Elisabeth Cefrewiat it iV*
i^S.VlL JCHJEIO,*?!,]
NOTES AND QUERIES*
501
dered certain &om the connderation thiit No. 3
^.,„i^ ^*i ,.„,:. i.^, , ,.-,„-:, „^ jjjg Q^ji sister. I
J I wast ciilled T^'Au-
fii.M.> ,. . v. -.'- c^ ....... ^er Elizabeth Mal-
Imver* eurne to be called Dynlmm wi»« ap^mrentlj
bv riiM irji^r her with her sLsler; for Sir John
V and Elixnheth Oefrewast had two
di ^ — Mnmlti, who married (1 j Sir Poter de
le M&re, (2^ i:i9):*-14a», Sir John Dviiham, and
^ed 4, p. 140i> or 1410, and Elizabeth Stafibrd.
EliziibetJi WAB origtnallv affianced to John Lovel
(Mot, Pitt 10 Ric. 11. tart i.j, and was unmar-
ried Nov. L*t?, L'l^O ( t'ft.) A ;jrftnt was made to
Ilumphre}' do Stadbtd and Elizabeth his wife,
with rt'iiiJtimk'r to Humphrey d© Statford le tilz,
and Elizabeth ^i^ vdie, Oct,' 1, l-'W {RoL Put,
21 Ric. il., Tart I.) On Jan. 7, 1402» mention
ia made of ^* John Dynham, Ch?, et Matilda vix'
rs/' with the additional information that " Eii«-
th, wife of Ilumphiey StiiUbrd of Honie, Chf,
holds of the heritage of the sidd Matilda'' (Rot.
I\tt. 3 Hen. IV., Part r.) Another i^-ant to Hum-
phrey Sta0brd. mil.^ and Elizabeth his wife» ap-
DOMB Feb. 1 , 1417 {HU. Pat 4 Hen. V. ) On Nov.
§B.141^t we read of the elder Humphrey and
Misabeth i%8 ** jam mortui/' and of the yoimger
Humphr» 7 a« surviving (ih. 1 Hen. V., Part iv.)
Xil8tly« the inquis. p, m, of Elizabeth, widow of
Hurnplixey Staflford, w^as taken li Hen. IV.*—
1 Hen. V: [1413.]
Now, Huuiphrey (No. 2) can fjcareely have had
anj wife after Klizabeth« seeing that she died in
tbe eame year as himself. Was Alice Be v ill© a
fomer wife Y or was the former wife the Emma
of whom wo are in search ?
If I do not occupy too much of your space,
mllow mii two further remarks to P. A. L. The
autograph of n Startbrd — namely, Humphrey,
cresatod Dukti of Buckingham in 1444, will be
found in Cott. MS. Galba, B. I. fol, 24n. One of
P, A. L/* senttnces haj3 **Hxercided" me greatly,
H*' *^"* - '' 1 - IF,... Tit is "headed with the name
ci: »rd (not John, the Regent in
1... -., . .'*r atid suceestor as Governor
of Normmidy).' Will he kindly tell me whom he
means by tbe words in italics ? John Duke of
HiJfnH had no brother of his own title.
HnaMKirTRtrDE.
BUKWS: "RIGHT GCDE-WTLLIE WADCHT.^'
(4'*' S, vU, 380.)
, J^ot one of the numerous editors of Bums, and
i one of bin annotators, so far as I can see, have
rly th*i up in type this familiar expression,
wluch ucciirs nowhere el-^e in Sc<3ttiflh song except
t^ .1. ,.. _t J * ;'^i,^u^ ii Auld Lan^: Syne *' of Bums,
m the gin;?in^' of an old man/*
*i L-. ^ .,i .UtT of very small moment whether
tli» oominou Scotch word "waucht^'be spells
with c OT ff, I would prefer the c in this and
similar words, as shovdng the more ancient stjh ;
but either* way is quite proper. I might go over
the whole alphabet, and select from each Itjtter a
word in the Scottish dialect with the same gut-
tural sound, which may be apelled by using either
rh or ffk. For instancef ttuckfy or &uphtt/ for eighty,
l/auehif'Shjon or bauffhie-shoon for ahoea worn out
of shape, clfiucM or ciauffht for caught hold of*
dtcht or dit/hf for wipe up, fnucht or fmtffht for
fought, and so on. The word VofA, wgnifying lake,
is often spelled loifffh^ and the proper name Lachr
ian or McLachlan iis juat aa often ^Ued LaujjfMmi
ar McLuuffhlan.
My present object in writing ia to point out to
your readers that there is no such word in the
Scottish dialect as ** willie-wancht/^ True, it is
invariably found so printed in aU existing editions
of Burns, including even that of the critical Dr.
Hately Waddell ; fjut this only shows how very
ignorant modern Scotchmen are regai-ding the
ancient dialect of their country. Had Burna
lived to edit the printing of his own song, "Auld
Lang Syne," the word '* willie-waucht *' would
never have been seen nor heard tell of. It is not
to be found In Jamiesoua fkoUiah IHciitmary*
The word *- waucht or waught/' a copious drinks
will he found there ; and the word **gudewiUie,"
with a good will, is tliere also. A " good-wiUie
waught '* therolbro meana a copious libation, taken
with good will. The great error of editors and
printers lies in absurdly placing the connecting
Lypheu between wtUie and witucht instead of be-
tween ifude and tciUie. If an Englishman were to
ejtpross in writing that he took a " willing drink "
or a " hearty driiUi " of generous liquor on some
happy occasion, he would never cunnect these
words like Siamese twins, as printers have hitherto
done in reconling thia rich phrase of Burns —
** Gudewillio waught.*' In like manner it is per-
fectly unin cessary^ — nay, it is an error to do so
in traui^nbinj the phrase either in Scottish or
German.
I»have been favoured with a glance at the proof
sheets of an edition of Bums shortly to proceed
from the press of Mr. James M4\ie of Kilmar-
nock, and I ani liappy to say that the poet*8 happy
phrase, which forms the subject of this note, is
there correctly printed.
I may state that in Jifhnaon's Mfneunij where
^^ Auld Lang Syne *- tlrat made its appearance a
few months after the poet's death, the phrase is
printed thus — ** right gudo-willie-waught" This
IS better than the usual rendering, but the last
hyphen is a printer's error calculated to mislead
the reader. The Scottish epithet " ill-wiilie,''
used as a prefix to man, woman, bairn, dog, &c.»
L8 quite as common as its converse ** gude-wilUe/^
Wm. S. HoudLAJi.
Ediubargb.
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[4«fc8*VII. Jtrirelft.*Tt
I hardly think buj Scot coiild miatJike the
meaning oP'gude-wilhe waucht/' however printed.
In a general way Engliah ji^ople neither imder-
8tand nor try to nnoerstand veniacular Scotcli,
" He's ralo gnde willie *' (ho is really good-hearted)
is a most common form of ezpresaion in the Low-
lands of Scotland, and most persons born north of
the Tweed know that '* a gude waucht,'* without
the intermediate term ** willie," means a hearty
drink, '' Gude-u^iV/tV waucht '* suggests aomethitig
more. It means a hearty drink accompanied with
jovial feelinffs ; in the alang of the day ** awfully
jolly,'^ overtlowing with a sort of drtmken kind-
ness engendered in those who having imhibed
rather more than sufficient are disposed to ho
friendly with every body* Men become sen ti-
me ntal as the blood circulates with greater rapi-
dity* " Aukl Lang Syne '' was seldom sung until
" after men had well drunk/* and just before the
company broke up. J. Ck, K.
W. T. M/s communication having been quoted
into the Glasgow Iltrah!^ I replied to it at some
length there in the first instance, and now beg
very bri^f tly to sum up the facts of the case for the
infornmtiun of your correspondent:- —
1, There wore originally three MS. copies of
" Auld Lang Syne," m the hands respectively of
Johnson, Thomson, and Cnrrie. In tneir several
editions the phrase stands thus—'* gude-willie-
wnught." '* gude-willie-waught '' ** gode willie-
waught" In Thomson's second edition, 1821, he
fieems to have revised his former reading, and
adopted Curriers ; at least I find the words quoted
from him as they were printed by Currie, ** gude
willie-waught/' Whether the original MSS, agree
or ditier on this point, not having seen them, I
cannot say ; hut these editions are the only public
authorities we now have to rely upon^ and al-
though one editor might give a wrong reading,
two would not, three could not,
2* Jamieaon ba.«i been misquoted by your corre-
snoudeut W. T. M. to some extent ; and Jamieson
himself has misquoted Bums. The extent of the
misquotation may be ascertained on reference,
3. There are such words in Scotch as " ill-
willie," " ill-deedie,** &c., hut no such word as
" gude-willie.*' "Ill " is an adverb* and may he
conjoined as above with adjectives ; " gude " is an
adjective itself, pure and simple, and can not , or at
least should not, be so conjoined with another ad-
jective, as ** Willie ** is. Bums certainly would
not have committed such an error; and if any
MS, of his should seem to justify that reading,
it must have been, I should think, by mere
accident.
4. ** Willie," as an adjective, combined with
** waught *' indicates the strongest will or deter-
mination to drink. *' Hearty* is, perhap?, the
" ' T'/TTlish word we have for it; but it means
far more than hearty^ and its oombisatiioo ^witfi
*' waught " is perfectly legitimate.
5. W. T. M. writes *^richt" and *'-«w
improperly. Burns did not uae the letter
such words ; he knew the power of his own
guage, in all its details, better.
These being the simple facta of the
think proper to submit them in reply to W. X,TL
but beg leave, once for all, to decune any eoBte>»
versy on the subject, more egpociaUy witb a
anonymous correspondent,
P, Hat£i.t Widhill
Elmgrove Place, Glasgow.
R, P. BONIXGTOX,
{4}^ S, vii- 14L)
To whose sterling worth may well be ap^Bet
the lines of Comeilie —
" Aux Ames bien &^
*' L« valear n*attend pas le nombre des anaeii.*
I think I can unhesitatingly aiHrm, hanngoto
been assured of it by some of his best Meodfr^
Baron Bivet, Mr* Montfort, Mr. A. CoHii— tbi
Bonington wrote his now-renowned oamii wiik
one n only.
I was intimate, too^ some forty yeart i>g<V ^^
a French gentleman a long time i^-sident in LondiA
— Mr, John Lewis Brown, jun,, of Bordeaui, irh^
was then the fortunate possesaor of A3 mAAt n
ItiH of the tinest water-colour drawings by Un
admirable and fertile hand, and on none of Ita
have I ever seen the name written othi*r*W
Not sO| however, with spurious ones, of irlikk,
ahisf but too many have been made ^^taattitfr
the avidity of collectors, to remunerate the
of copyisti*, and gratify the cupidity of d'
It was, if I mistake not, in ISSS
exhibition in Regent Street wholly of
tons, I used to go there and atudy 1
hours^ ^* as if increase of appetite hat! grews
what it fed on." So much so that B.mi
father, who at the entranf** delivered the
logue and received the shilling fee, seaaliSe
my ndmiratioa, at last refused to let me
He asked me to his lodging!^ wbere be
show me many unfinished axetchea by
departed son. With these were some
the father, likewise for sale, but so inferi(
Speaking of this gifted youth, nuiy I be
to relate what once passed between him aad
French historical painter Baron Groa^ tn i *
studio our young Englishman learnt to dmw
life, on his first arrival in Paris ? After a vislk.^
the master, dis.satistied with hia oew pupil 'i W^
pendent way of treating art, said to bim ^m$ i
m his rough and ready manner, " That's all f
sense ; you are useleily wastiDff your tima
your parents' money, r ou had tietter toRi ^
mind to something else." Fancy poor Bon^
4
4«» S. Ylh JvHU 10, 71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
503
with hb metis dimnwr^ heftring such a condemna-
tion ! However, a short time after, Groa hap-
pened to pass by a then well*kDOwn and haua-
ik>me pictuiV'deftl<^r*s shop, Mnie. H , who»
unfortunately for the lovers of art, took too great
a hold on dear Bonin^on'a heart, for —
•• She tftlkM, ^he smil'd, hi* heart she wyl'd^
She cbannM hi* soul he wUt na how j
And ay the dtoundt the deadly wound,
Cam fra. her eec sae bonnie blue."
There the baron saw in the shop window some
very cleverly painted views of Itouen, Caen, and
other towns of P'rance and Belginm. He was
much struck with their wonderfully bold touch
and true effect of chiaroscuro ; not less astonished
was he on hearing from the fair vender that the
author was no other than the young insulaire he
had judged so severely. So the ne?tt day, sitting
down on Bonington's stool, in the studio, by way
of correcting his work after a living model, be
looked up benevolently in his face (and he could
do so when he liked, as much as anyone) and
aaid, "J'ai vu hier, Hue de la PaLx, ae grands
detans, des interieura de villes en Normandie.
On me dit r^ue c est de voue ? " Bonington, with
SQXoe trepidation, owned them as his. " Eh bien I
mon gar<;i tn,*' retorted the master, '* c'est bieBy
mcdja tres-bien. Je vous en faia mon sincere com-
pliment. Allons, allona, je vols que vous ave^s
trouv^ votre voie, Suivez-la ; '* and softening
down his voice, and putting out his broad right
hand to the astonished and delighted youth, he
added; " Dorenavant, vous viendrcz ici tantqu'il
vous plaira, et je n'entends pas que celn vous
oooie rien."
This I heard from an old camarade d*atelier of
Boningtoi^ who was present nt the time.
I am sorry to say I am not acquainted with
HrjBSi'S IHcf tun fir tf uf Paint rrs, and possibly the
«tofy may there be better told. I send it you
Uite quale, P, A. L.
FLAG OF THE XEW HERMAN EMPIRE,
(4*»' S. vii. 322, 41G.)
I hav« no doubt that Mil Woopwabd's account
cf the new flag is true, and the readers of
** K* A Q." and of the nonsense which I quoted
ftom The Globe and 77*e TimeM will be obliged to
Mid, as I am, for answering my query. 1 have
oot seen the correction in The Guardimi to whicli
W. J. L. refers.
Mi-Fort i, — It is a Tory small matter; but I
cflT-^ ' ' -■-- ---'^h Mb. Woodward about Panwiiz,
Mr fore think that I am mistaken. J
hiiS' ^i' ir ,, >.'nbti^h before me The extreme
uncertainty <>f engraving the horizontal line of
ID shields makes it quite reasonable to
I the divisifjn which we see in Panwitz to
en made to look mi-jmrti in error, Spener,
Tefening to this plate at the reference giren by
Mb. Woodward, certainly does not cmI it so.
His marginal note is '^Tii partita in partes ince-
qualee,** After saying '^ 2Son alienn ab hoc loco
eat ilhi dlvisio parmaj in tres partes, quas partes
non omnino Lequales facit,*^ and giving instaacesy
be goes ou —
" Hiyua exempla sticcurrunt ills, ut basi nigrsD im-
poaitum caput dextrd parte rubeat, sint«tr& ai^ento
splendeat et inver»o tan turn dtu mlnii et argoiiU
VVeiters [Hass] Pauwitz [Sile;*].'*
He refers to the Wappesihuch plates.
After this, the continuator oi Guillim puts in
Panwitz as I quoted it at p. 322, not referring
to the Wappenhu^^h, but giving authority later
than the nrst issue of that work. I think l'fm»
witz may be taken to he as Guillim gives it
I have to add thrit 1 have founds **ince I wrote
at p. 322, a note of my own, made many years
ago, which I had forgotten, giving an example of
mi-parti in England. It is, or was, for I saw it,
in the spandrels of the porch of the old parsonftge
at Milverton, near Taunton. The shield was —
Coup^, chief mi-paHi sable and argent ; in dexter
side a flower of four leaves, gules and argent ; in
sinister a quatrefoii, or and sable; the base s&ble,
a quatrefoii. I eunpose the charge in the dexter
aide diHered irom tne others.
I also have a hook-plate, signed in handwriting
with the name '* Prosser,^' which shows mi^parti,
ail three areas being without tincture ; in dexter
chief a fleur-de-lys, in sinister a tower, in baad
the sea^and a sea-horse swimming pierced through
the neck with an arrow — all proper. Burke does
not give this coat. D. P.
Stuarts Lodge, Malvern Wells,
BUITISH SCVTIIEn CHARIOTS.
(4*'» S. Tii, 95, 240, 332.)
I looked up this point some time since on read-
ing a curious passage in Mr. Smiles' Industriai
Biography f p. l.'l (1863): — *
"When the Romiuis invaded (Britain), the metal
(iron) 3**eiii9 to have heeu already known to the tribes
along the coast Wc munt, however, regard the
storiea told of the aneient Britbh chanot« armed with
9 word* or acj-thea a* altoj^ether apocr>'phal. The exists
eDCe of iron in sotBcient quantity to be awed for such a
purpose is iDcompatille with contemporary fact^, andJ
unsupported by a single vestige remainiDg to our time*^
The country was then mostly forest, and iho roads did
not as yct'exiat upon which chariota could bo used;
whtlat iron mras too scarce to he mounted aa scythes upon
chariota when the warriora themselves wanted it for J
swords. The orator Cicero, in a letter to Trebaltus tbea "
!»erring with the army la Britain, aarcostica I ly advised '
him to capture and convey one of thcw vehicles to Italy \
for eidiihitioa ; bat we do not bear tliat any apecimeo of
the Britiah war chariot was ever seen in Rome."
Here is a notable confusion. The author is sure
there was not enough iron for scythes— and rightly j
no doubt-Hmd so ae savs thero cauH wA Vsiifi^J
504
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[4«*S.Vn. JoJiBlO,'7L
been any chariotSi which ia quite another thing.
He simply cannot have consulted his authorities
at all, and he certainly misiquotes Cicero. It is
r'te impoesible to discredit Ciesar's testimony
ut the chariot (essedum, essedarii), B. G. iv. 33;
y. 19y for his statements are plain and precise,
and upon a matter notorious to every man in his
anny. If such testimony may not bo trusted,
what may? But then Oiesar says nothing of
scythes or iron. Almost precisely the sume may
be said of the testimony of Tacitus (Affricola,
35, 30^, who calls the chariot corinua. He is a
careful writer, and he must have known. He says
(like Caesar) •*covinarii peditum se prrclio mi»-
cuere." He, too, mentions no scythes nor iron.
The ordinary references for the oHsedmn, esseday
essedarii are Cicero, Epp. T)h\ vii. 0, 7 ; and Upp. ad
AUicum, vi. 1 (end), and Orat. Phil. ii. 24; Virgil,
Qeorg. iii. 204 (cf. Conington's note ad he); Per-
sius, yi. 47 ; Propert. ii. 1, 80, and iii. 24, 5 ; Sil.
Ital. iii. 3.*^7. What Cicero does say {Epp. Div.
yii. 7) to Trebatius is : "I hear there is neither
gold nor silver in Britain ; if that be so, 1 advise
you to catch an cssedunij and drive back to me as
soon as possible " ;• in another he says, ** Take care
you are not taken in by the charioteers in Britain,*'
as if he knew all al)out them. l']lsewhere he
speake of the chariots in Rome, of a man " cum
duobus essedis"; " tribunusin essedo." The covi-
ntu is mentioned (Lucan, i. 420 ; Martial, 12, 24) ;
he couples it with the essedum and cnmica as a
pleasure carriage ; nowhere any mention of scj'thes
or iron.
But Pomponius Mela (iii. 0, 5), the gf'ogTapht?r,
says, " Covinos vocarit quorum fulcutis axibus
utuntur," and ho is speakiiijr of the Britons. He,
I suppose, is responsible for the story. Surely bis
evidence is not good agjiin«t the eve-witness
Ctesar, nor against Tacitus. He compiled from
books, and probably made a mistake by transfer-
ring the Ejwtem scythed cliuviots to the Britons.
Livy ('x-xxvii.41, 5) speaks of the " falcatre quad-
rigfo '* of Autolochus, and X^nophon {Anah. i. 7
and 8) says the king had 200 and Cyrus had twenty,
&Pfiara hptvavri^pa, scvthe-bearing chariots. These
in the battle were soon Ktvk i)Pu>xoiy in the rout.
The Greeks, he adds, ^* opened out " when they
saw one coming; one man was knocked down
as on ^* a raoe-course," and it was paid that even
he got no harm. If Liyy and Xenophon have
so much 10 say of the scythes, would Cfcsar and
Tacitus have omitted them if they hatl any exist-
ence? Diodorus Siculus (vi. 21) compares the
British chariots to those which were said by tra-
dition 'to have been used by the heroes in the
Trojan war. Would not he have known these
Eastern chariots, and have compared the British
chariots to them, instead of the Homeric chariots,
unless he had known that the British chariots
had no scythes. O. W. Tancock.
" EFGKfE Ar^" (4"» S. yii. 420.)— Mr. Edwnd
Lytton Bulwer's (now Lord Lytton) noyel, Eiagmt
Aramy appeared in fact after T. IIood*a "The
Dream," of which he said ''the mens divimkt
breathes through every line of it '* ; but the novel's
dedication to Sir Walter Scott bea^ date London,
Dec. 22, IdfU. It is probable, therefora, that it
came out on January 1, 1833. I have before me
an American edition, with an epistolary preface
by the author, bearing the same date — London,
Dec. 22, 1881. I bought it at Manila in 1832:
so Lord Lytton can see his works made much way
in a short time. His Pelham I read in America
in 1828. P. A. L.
LAycAsniRT! Witches (4»»» S. vii. 237, 311»
417.) — The Yorkshire ladies rejoice in the sobri-
quet of "Yorkshire wenches.*' Whilst partici-
pating two years since with the Archseologictl
Institute in tne hospitality of the Duke of DeTon-
shire at Ilolker, I used the phrase '* Lancaehixe
witches" to a fair damsel who sat next to me.
^'Oh no! I am not a witch, I am a Y'orkshire
wench." A. J. DryxCT.
PoPE*s Epitaph ox Sir Godfrey Kselub
(4'«» S. vi. 170, 202.)— Speaking of that of Rif-
faelle, D. P. rightly says —
'* Bat, in or about lH3d, had been ad(le<1 another iofcrip-
tioD commemorotinfc tho discovery of the body of Btf*
faelle in September that year."
I have a lithograph, now rather a scarce one,
made by Horace Vemet at Rome. He was at
I that time Director of the French Academy at the
Villa Medici, and with his father, (\irle*Venifit,
accompanied the pope and Cardinal Lambruschini
to ■ the Pantheon, where, mider an altar, were
discovered the mortal remains of the inmiortai
d'Urbino. P. A. L
Oy niE Absence of any Frkxcit Word poi
"to Ridk" (^''^ S. vii. 4:il.)— I venture to ay
Mr. Blenkinsopp is mistaken in supposing there
is no French word for *' to ride.'* We say cA*-
rancher, '*A;j:nL'S lasse de chevnucher." Volt
•' Chevaucher court ou long* — **To ride with
short or long stirrups."
Then, as to Frenchmen declining to ride with
the hounds because they cnu only ** se promeMf
a cheval,'* I fancy Count d'Or^ay would have pro-
tested. Ask Ix>rd Chesterfield" or Sir G. Grtat,
the president of the Iloyal Academy. And aUl
can sav, as far as I am concerned, is, that the M
time i ever followed the hounds was in 1828^ I
was then a mere lad. I kept on horseback fron
seven o'clock a.x. to seven r.M., returning hoM
in the dark. I shall never forget how much I
enjoyed myself that day, nor the ffalop I got-^ <*
a French expression — fn^m an uncle of mine M
an Englishman), who, thinking I must have futo
in some ditch, sent grooms and coachman to M*
the country after me. And when he saw m k
4«*a Vll.Juif«10,'TL]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
506
begtha
^ttitist SI
siud ; " If you do not mind youreelf, I "wish you
wotild mind my horses.-' His wife, on the oth^r
hiind (a thorough English woman), thought I had
shown Bome spunk, and gave me an encourt^ng'
look. Then again, we mav be ** volatile,*' and
piohahly are; still methinks we can ** stand'* a
^ood deal after all. See what we are goin^
thK)iigh in France since a year : first that horrible
Oerman war, and secondly thii* still more horrible
sodal war. Who would have believed it? And
we may well say with H. Heine : —
** t'ud ich ^laubf U'U tm ^ .-^ ritmnier«
Uiid ich hab' cs d- n^
Aber, fragt mich imr ijidit wie I '*
P. A. L.
JrPTrtAL Oaths (4^** S, vii. 509, 354, 440.)— I
"beg thatG, will forgive dig for misapprehending his
*ifig? imd f«>r my unnecessary remarks on the
ject. Whfit hn ni* jmt is now plain, but he
lUst suHer me to sAy that it was not quite *o
before, or I could scarcely have so completely
mifiimd*?r8tood him. The weapon which ho used
was Ciipable of cutting two ways, and I should
kftTo held my peace had he indicated a little more
cUarly, to begm with, which t^ide he intended to
employ, Hebmenteudb.
Cm»t« (4"» S. Vii. 257, 3oa, 44^.)— With regard
to the crest on the Rev. John Eichards' tomb
(1008-0) I am inclined to think it cannot be taken
*»»M r.hw,f of holy writ/' I knew a gentleman^
1' ^^^edy who, having no crest of his own,
ai ^ _ at of his wife's family on his plate and
cafriag'ca, notwithstanding the objections started
br the latter, because, thought he', it looked well.
Cm his tomb has been engraved his coat of
arms mth this creaif and no doubt some hundred
jreftn hence this will likewise b« given as a case
in pmot. p. A. L.
Gkoror LoxBCwr (4*** S. vii. 23o, ^8.5, 444.)—
1 am i^l:i<l t<i h.^ ^h],* tn Mmvvvr that Rebecca, first
wifi* CI I (niamed about 1704),
wa« a _ ;;e London ; and if you
will fefer to iSo, (rJi^ of the Jom-nul of Hm'timd"
tm^^ for the pn^i^nut year you will tind a long
aotic© of George London, rw la ting many incidents
of his lift*, the part he took in effecting "the escape
of the Priiueiis Anne to Xottingham, and also a
copy f»f hi^ autograph. It also statea that London
waa burii'd in Fulham church in the grave of his
f econd w i f ♦> , R 0 CE rt Hoc cj ,
W» St (Jetirge'i Ro»<l, Pitnlieo,
Si. WuLnuK (4»^ S. vii. 169, 200, 335, 444.)
Tbtt lLfi?t of St Wulfran contained in Uie Cotton
MS. Otho, D. viii.» was consulted by me when I
Wfote the note concemiog this saitit iu my Snfflish
CS^mrck iMmUitre^ ti. 88, It is a lifv^ of the Arch-
biihop of 8eaiy ooa has been much injur««d by the
fim of 1731 . £DWA&i> Pkacock.
GuiJts verius Mosumross (4^ B. Tii. 352» 416.)
Our ancestors took wise nreoautious to preserve
their bodies from the ftssaults of these pests — c. g.
among the goods of the Abbey of Sawtre there
was found at the dissolution in the '* New Cham-
ber,— The bedstedd with a net for knattes.*' {Ar- h
chfcvlogiay xliii. 240.) Edwaed Peacock. H
The fact of mosquitoes being imported in ships
I have myself witnessed. I recollect when passing
the Straits of Salayer, the captain causing the lid
of a large water-cask on deck to be opened for our
xi^ — , vre had hitherto had no mosquitoes on
board-^when, lo and behold^ myriads of these ne-
farious ijiaects sallied forth, and from that moment
we had no rest They must have been bred spon-
taneously in the water, P. A. L.
1 havo occa^onally seen insects in the South of
England which were identical in appearance with
the mosquito of the East, but I never experienced
their sting. The latter is inflicted by a minute
prohoacist through which, in attacldng the hyman
subject, the insect both injects poiaou and with-
draws blood, wherewith, if crushed at such a
time, the little vampire is usually found to be
gorged. This power of drawing so thifk a fluid
as numan blood through a micruecopie tube, not
exceeding in diameter a human hair, is one of
nature s innumerable marvels. It was staled in
Tfic Times of July 27, 1868, that the use of wild
rosemary will keep off mosquitoes. C W. M.
Margaret Fb?idli»: Lady Mortiiter (4*^ S.
vii. 12, 223, 318,437.)— After Tewabs's ♦>j[celleni;
reply no question need be raised any more as to
Margaret Fendles. I had pointed out {p. 318)
that Fendlea was an impossible name, and that
the Nf)hieia gave no name from which it could
have been reduced by English ingenuity or bJun-
dering ; but that Fienles, which must soon have
pained a rf in England, brought us very near to
Fendlej?. This turns out to be the real name, with
the alternative of Fiennes, which I suggestetl. I
Lad not access to Vredius nor to the Tnifiher^ to
which Lord Gort obligingly refers. It still re-
mains to inquire as to the arms. Fienles^ or
Fiennes, cames the coat given bv Vredius. But
1 mentioned (pp. 318'9) that ttis was not the
coat of the Anglo-Norman Fiennes family. In
England they certainly bore tliree lions rampant
Can Tkwars say what coat was bora© by Ingra
do Fiennes, who married Sibella, daughter
Fnramus r/ef Bolonia^ and with her had tho manor ^
ofClapham? D. P.
Stuarts Lodge, Ma] vera Wells.
DEIHCATI05S or CntTRcnEs (4** 9, vii. 388, 480.)
These are given in Ecton'a ThesauruM and Browne
W^illis^s Parochiale An^Hcanum, The Bishop^
Registers should be consulted where these wora
fail Mackeszie E. C. Waicott, B.D., r.S,A.
506
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t4»^ S. iril. Jevft M,
CEtLDKHN'sGAiras (4"» S. vil 141, 271, 415.)—
" * How many tiiiJes to Bo by Ion ? *
* Tbree icore m ilea and ten.'
* Can we get there by candle-light ? *
* Tea* and tmck Again.*
' Hold op tlia gates aa hi^h as the aky,
And let King George and hU train pais hyV^*
The above linea were those of my childhood,
which was pa^^sed in London, Herefonij and Can-
terbury. 1 cannot remember, therefore, in what
county I first learnt them, £. A. D.
Tofijuay.
SuKBiALS (i"" S. vii. 324, 399.)— A very rater-
esting article on aundiald will be found in the
Zemtre Horn for June 1, 1870. W, Marsh,
7» Red Lion Square. ^
« Akima Cbwti " (4"> S. Tii 822, 374.)— Who-
ever waa the author of this prayer, it certainly I
was not S. I|arnatiua ; for in a collection of prayera [
which I have bound up with a 32mo copy of the I
Samm Breviary (Pars flyeraalis, a.d. 1620), it is j
^ven aa an ** oratio post elevationern " to the say-
ings of which ** conoeduntur iij dies indultrentia-
rum a Joanne papaxxij." As John XXII. waa
Pope from 131u to 1334, the prayer is at leaat
two centuries older than S. Ignatius, Whether
the comparative nearness of this pope to S. Thomas
Aqiiinat^ (died 1274), and the fact that it was he
who canonized the a&Lnt, auffice to establish tiie
latter^fl aythorahip of the prayer, I must leave others
to determine. 1 have heard, though I cannot
aay on what authority, ati Englkh origin assigned
to it. But it seems to me much more probable
that botb S. Ignatius and Pope John ehtmld be
acquainted with tlie production of the great Do-
minican than with a peculiarly English prayer.
With all deference to P. C, II,, I woiUd suggest
that Jesuit reluctance to adopt Dominican compo-
fittions IS mhit ttd rem. If S. Ignatius picked up
the prayer somewhere, and placed it, as he ild^
in his book of Spiritual Exercises j its popularity
with the Jesuits is easily accouHted lor. It is
more diliicult to reconcile its comparative disuse
among the Dominicans with the authorship of S.
Thomas. Saribbitbiensis*
DBvoNsinRE Worm f4»* S, vii.429.) — L dome
(crockery), perhaps another orthography of laam.
[Qro«ie gives cloam^ coarse earthenware, E.nn. x
and Halliwell cloam^ earthenware, Devon ; domer^
a maker of earthenware ; clume^httsza^ an earthen
pan.]
2. Mound (a hamper), i. q. the Scottish fjiatmd ^
a hand-basket, from A,-S. wmwf/.- Dan. id.
3. Seam (of hay or straw), from the French
ionitne ; Lat, «umma for gaurtm^ satif/mttj gat/ma^
trayfiaf fiom (rdrrutf to load. lo Essex a seam of
com is eight bushels, Blount renders mmma
aimuBt ''a seam or horsa-load of oats/'
K. S. CHABlf OCK,
Oray'ft Inn.
3
William Bauol (4*»' S. vii. 302. 433,)—
ander de Baliol, elder brother of tb^^ Kuvg
Scotland, who died 1277-8, married Aliaaova
Genoure, "the king's cousin^** who survirsd IbiiL
(Catetidiirium Gentabifjicum^ pp. 261^ 744; hi
Pat. 7 Edw. I.) She wai apparentlj the di^
ter of Peter de Geneville, or Pierre de Gfuvf^i
blood relation of Queen Eleanor ot Prm <■
through her mother, Beatrice of Savoy. Hi
other Alexander de Baliol, whom AiroLO-Sonci
calls Sir Alexander of Cavers, married ItM,
elder daughter and coheir of Richard Hliroy ar
de Chilham (natural son of King Joho) lad
Roisia de Dovor, heiress of Chilham. Shi v»
widow of Ihmd de Strabolgi, Earl of Athoh^
and died at Chilham Castle in l2Vh?. Tbp ii,
therefore, nothing strange in her buri«l tn tht
Undercroft of Canterbury Cathedral
obit was annually kept on April 17
Christ Church, Canterbury, Arundi
She left issue two sons — John de ? f
Alexander de Baliol. Sir Alexander m
was living on April 8, 1298, when he wa^
neving to Scotland in the king's eervif**^
Ptf^. 26 Edw, I-) I thought both tb. \ ; r-^
ders were brothers of John Baliol. \V tj ^
Clementift de Balliol, precentrix of Eh-v, t
Abbey, and afterwards abbess ? Her electioti w-j
continued by mandate of Edward I^ Sept. %
1294 (Rot Pat. 23 Edw. I.) Hfi&MzirTtiFW
FiTZSTRATHERjfE (l'** S. ii. 302, 451.)— A yf-
son bearing this name has been inquired about it
" N. & Q.," and ia thus written about in tht sedK
daknis chronicle of a Miss Caiy, 1825, 3 Tola 8?%
London : —
" Th(^ son of a grave-digj;er at tbe Orkntys , « . . 1ft
attttiKl tiint»(air to be the aoii of the Duke of Rtat Xl»
Fitjutrflthome sayi be is in pArtnenship with II r. Kalil(
a solicitor, lie '^caa imitate anv handvrritii]^ aadlVS''
torgvd tho tetter to which H«r Majesty's [Qoan Chi^
lotte'»] name was affixed ; that letter wiu, aiiiS I m
still iio&i lively aiaored is, in tbe bar i
Mr. Fit/^^tratherne having recently ^v.
of hb misdoedH are likely to be ni'\'\<' [
ti;rs not what a inan*a name is w]< i ;.- ir: i -, r .-^.'..■, \
his conduct it correct. Hia asstun^Mi lalTii t.^tir L"-
of royalty is beat exftlained by stating tti^tl )a» Aitlc
was nevW out of Scotland* and, with tha ea^cvtuka di
His Majesty upon a reoent occasion, not otie of ibt ngr^
family has ever l»cii tlier^"*' — Vol. Ui. App. xvii.
BollBTl^
Old Songs and Bvllads (4** S. vi. 4:
vii. 3fJ8.) — 1 can fally endorse Mb. Ja(
assertion as to the wretched doggrel, not to
tilth in ess, of many of the original songs lA
melodies employed by Bums and Moor«, Boi
less some few are harmless enoagh^ but u a
they are belter consigned to that obUviao
they now enjoy. I have a pretty good siiriBkl^
of old song- books on my shelveev andiliooll
happy to convince any one, by persdnal \siMtik
of tue truth of what I most unheaitBlii^gi^ af^
4**S,Vll.JcHEl0.7J.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
The ideas of our grandfathers and grand moth era as
to what was presentable and what wns not, dif-
fered considerably from ours upon the same point.
I do not think that we should allow our children
free «cee«8 to the pages of Allan Ramsay's Tea-*
TiUde Miscellttnyf j^et the editor expressly says in
his preface : —
•• In my CoinpnsitioiJ and Collrrtion I have kept cmt atl
ncmt and nbaldry^ that the modest Toice and ears of tlie
Ikir singer miglit mtet with no alTronC
Some few of the originals of Moore*8 Melodies
are preserved in tranedationd from the Irish. I
may instance Walshes version of *^ The Twisting
of Uie Rope 'Mn Lover's Lyric ft of Irdandy p. 3111
With regard to many of the tunes mentioned
by Mb. BtAiR, they wfere originally dunce tunes,
and have no old words*. This ean not only he
proved from various sources, but is evident from
the structure of the melodies themselves which
ahonpra that they were composed for some instni-
ment.
The oldest Scotch tunea are to be found in the
Skene MS. (See Dauney^a^'l/jriWi/ Scot ink Melo'
dies.} The earliest Irish tunes (if we exclude two
or three trivial collections of dance tunes of the
middle of the lft*t centur}) are those noted down
by Mr William Bunting, and which supplied Moore
with the music for his celebrated Meiitdies. Had
it not been for Bunting and the late Dr. Petri e
(who jrave the poet a few tunes), the memory of
the Irish music would have been but little more
tlian as a departed dreami never to be satisfactorily
xeaUaed. Edward F. Rimbault,
Sttitbt GoDOLPimr (4*''S. vii. 364, 4«3.)— The
poet of this name was surely the brother of the
Lord Treasurer, ** a youn^ gentleman of incom-
partible parU/- according to Clarendon, who gives
nim a very high charaeterj both in hia Life and
in the Hittortf of t/w Iid*el/hth He was born in
Cornwall in 1669 or 1010, and was educated at
K\^'ter College, Oxford. As he was killed at the
attack of Chagford^ in Devonshiret Jan. 1642-*j,
he ean hardly be called (supposing it to be him^
** one of the wits and poets of Charles II/s reign."
Ho translated the fourth hook of the A^netfi^ in
'which he was assisted by Waller. It was printed
in 1058, and included in iJryden's MuceUanm
(edit. 1716, iv. 134.) Many of bis lyrics are pre-
served in MS. They are remarkable for prettineaa
cf thought, if not for great vigour of expression.
EoWAliD F* RlMBAUlT,
Sir Jonx Powell (4^* 8. vii. 465,)— If Mr.
Feebe has no objection, I will answer his query,
aa perhaps the author of J^mmmt Wth/tmen may
not aee *'N, ^ Q.*' The following extract is
taken from Dr. Thomas Reea* Descrij^tion of South
^ri»Hp. 382:—
" At a short distance to the westward of Laagbame
lire the rcmalDS of Boadway Hou$e., the seat of Sir John
NOTES ON BOOKS. ETC.
Scottith Lftur^itJt of the Reign of James VI. The Booitf
of CommLtn Frayer and Administration of the Scicra-
vtentt^ with other Ritra and Ceremome$ of the Church of
Scotland^ a* it was $ett Houme at firsts befort the Ckvmge
thereof made by ye Archh. of CanterhwrxCy and teni back
to Scottand. (^From a MS* in the British Miueum.}
Also an earlier Draft prepared before the Trouble*
caused by the Articles of Perth. (From a MS. in the
Advocates- Library). Edited with an Introduction and
Notes by tJte Rev. W. Sprott, B.A. (Edmonston and
Bouglas.)
This ample title-pagu shows so fully the niiture and
cont€ntfl of this little volame and ita bearing upon thc^
history of tho Episcopal Church in Scotland, as to render
any detailed accoont of it unneceswirv. Our readers art-
aware that, after the Reformation, the Prayer Book ot
£dwanl the Sixth waa naed in public worMhifj by the
Chnrch of Scotland nntil it was superseded by the Book
of Common Order, or Knox's Liturgy, In 1601 other
I
Powell, one of the judgea of the Court of King^s Bench,
who preaided at the trial of tho seven bijihops, in the
reign of Jame:^ II, The part he took on this ot^eajnton
against the Court cnnsred his dinmisisal from his situalion*
H© died in 1696 at the ago of sixty-three, and was buried
in the church at Lnugbarne, where is a monument erected
to his memory. The indcription ttatea :—
"Strenuua ecdesue defensor foerit. Testes ii septem
Apostolic i Prawules, qnoa, ob Christi fidem fortiter vin-
dieatom, ad ipsiuA Tribimnl accitos intrepidas absotvit."
Such ia the only notice I have seen of thj« up-
right judge. If Mr. Frere or any other reader
of " N, & Q." would like to te^t the accuracy of ^
the above, his shortest course will be to stop on H
the South Wales Railway at Ferry side, to cross ™
over to IJanstephan by boat, to walk two miles,
when he will tind himself in view of Laugh ame
Castle, and an old man ready to carry him on hU
back across the river. T. 8.
Atsks, Frerb. kyu Fklaji, Surjtambs (4*^ S»
vii. 386, 447.)— I think Mr, Eoqer indicates the
true source of the above names, seeing that there
is an English form in the surname Are^ north of
England, and Scotch Air and Icelandic Areson.
Bishop John Areson at Iloolum established the
first printing-press in Iceland. X. S. A.
Trinity House,
Ki?EELi5G IN Prat^ (4*^ S. vii. 437-)-- A
Concordance would have satisfied C. A, W. that
so far from kneeling being a feudal custom which
came in about the eighth century^ wti are ex-
horted in Psalm xcv. to ** kneel before the Lord
our Maker/' that Solomon knelt, and that Daniel
knelt three times a day. I admit '' to fall down
before" ia a commoner Scripture phrase than to
kneel; but that standing was the only Jewish
posture no Scripture reader will, 1 think^ allow.
I
J
608
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
[4««»S.VII.JniBlO,7l.
changes were contcmplatcJ, and the pn)f?ress of these
changes in well tnid in the Editor'.*) intnxluetion lu the
Litnrfgr which ho has printed in the volume before us.
That Liturcj' waa discovered in thi! British Masouin bv
the Rev. Alezaader Irwin, an<l described and parU of it
printed by him in The Sritith Magazint for 1H45-G. For
Its publication in its present form, with the accompanying
letters throwing light upon the preparation of tliu Prayer
Book of 1C37, Mr. Sprott deserves the tbanks of uU who
desire to study the history or the Chun.-li in Scotlaml.
The Work$ of Alexander Pnne. .Vr«p KdU'um, including
gneml Hundred uvptdtlished lA-tters, and other new
Maierkdt collected in ftart hy the late Uight Hon. John
Wilson Croker. With Jntntductions and A'tftet by the
Itev. VVhltwell El win. VoL VI I. Onrrcgpfwience,
Vol, J I. iVith FortraitSy and other JUmtmtiona.
(Murray.)
This now and important edition of the writing of the
Bard of Twickenham makes steady and most .latnfactory
progre»s. Tour out of the cij,'ht vidunuM ni which it is
to consl««t are now ])ulilisl»ed. The one before us is the
second of the " Corn^ipondiMU'e," and contnins, first, one
hundred and fifty-six letters to and from Swift and others,
fvGm 1718 to 1741 ; next, four letters between Pope and
Bolingbruke; thirty lottrrs betwit-.n Pujhs and Gay.
dated betwiM»n 1712 ami 1732 ; tji;;ht letters between Pop»j
and ParncU, from 1711 to 1717 ; and la.-<tly, ei;jhteen let-
ters betwj-cn Pope and Dr. and (loorcre Arbuthnot, from
171 1 to 17'13.— and of all the^o letters, it must be remem-
bered, there are a gn'at number which either in whole or
in part arc not in tho i.-dition of ili).-«one. The volume
ma^' not perhaps contain so unu-h new matt it as some of
tb«)sc which have precedeil it, but it is marknl by the
same careful editing and full and judicious illustration.
Mr. Asiibkk'h Oc<:a8U)NAi. Fac-nimilk Ukim:ist8. —
We have already brought under tlie notiivj of our readers
several of the series of Krprints of shurt printed traeb* of a
mUccllaneons character, whii-h Mr. Aslibee has produ'rcd
in fac-simile with a sueeess which mikes tlieni, to all in-
tents and i)urpo.-'i;ssatisf;i'?t(«ry sub-^titute-* fur the original.
We have now five more of them before us. naim;ly : —
The Deltatc and StryJ> betwenr. Sonur and IVyntvr^ I'rom
the original blaek-lettcr tract, "luiprynted by Lawrcns
Andrew." "?.. Tnatysr of this Cnlaunt with thf Mnryftrje
of the Bo«ne of Jidiijnnnijntf unti> Lowlnn Slnnr, «lso in
blaek-lctter. X A Xrir Phit calhd Cantrrhitric, his
Clmti'je of />/i;/, Av'., from the original puMi>«lie.l in Mil.
•1. A Certain RtUUinn of the ILmfwcd (imtfnnnnan criilal
Jfistris Fasmu/mr, .V/rl'wA.T, ^Ve. lO'iD ; antl .'). and l:i-t.
The Mt-rry Cunreited Ilnmntrs of BfUlnm the Wturcr,
from Kiriiman's edition of IfitU. We Uli-.'ve if the
iil«rar>' history of this droll was thoroughly inve-tigatel
it would throw considerable liirht upon a curioiis «;hap-
tnr in the history of the Knglish Drama. Our rpjulers
need scarcely be "reminded that these reprints, which arc
limited to lU') copies, are to lie procured for shillings
where the ori>;nial tracts would cost iwunds.
IwOYAL iNSTlTUTUkJf OF (rllKAT I^UITAIN. — At tllfi
gL'ueral monthly meeting on Monday, Sir Krederiek Pol-
lock, M.A., Vio''-Pre.M<lvnt, in tin- ch.'iir, Mr. Silas Kemlmll
4'ook, Miss Klinor Mnrtin, .Mr. Ch.-irles IJland KadclilTe,
M.D,, and Mrs. Kadelille w^-re ck-rted members.
Pari«». — It is n'jvirtiMl that nearly all the missing
pieces of the Colonne Ventloine have been reeovered, and
that it will be no ver>' difiicult matter to bring al>ont its
complete restoration. Meanwhile a discussion ha? arisen,
says The Times' special correspondent, •• as to what to do
iri'tb tberu'ma — which shall be rebuilt, which pulled down,
and which left standing. One proposal, ifbich &Tid& favour,
is to pull down all that ivmains of ttie TuiWriea, and lo
open up the Louvre to the Champs Elysees withoot a break
in the vista, laying out the sjpaoc now occupied by the
Palace in a public garden. 'Fhe universal »cntiment \*
to enclose the Hdtel de Ville in a square, and let it stand
a magnificent ruin and illustration of the manner in
which the most advanced philosophical and philanthropic
ideas of tlie present age find tlu.ir highest expreaion aad
ultimate development.**
Trk chateau of the Maniuis Laplace at Arcuril Caefaia,
which escaped the Prussians, has Iteen plundered bv a
band of housebreakers from the MoufTctard district. ITm
manuscripts of the celebrated astronomer were thrown
into the nievre, from M-hich the original of 7^e Meekamm
of the i/eaueiu, in the author's handwriting, hat sabv-
qaently been fished out. The library, which wu rich in
rare book-s souvenirs, an<l works of art, has been looted
and devastated. — Cwinlinn.
Ur a fire at Alexandria, Virginia, on the lOlh olL wu
destroyed the old Court-house of Fairfax county, eroctfil
of imported bricks in 174K. In this buildintr the Britisb
troops %verc barracked after the rapture of Fort NeceaBtv
in 1754, and from it the forces i»f Uraddock marched totheu
memorable defeat in 17.).*). For fiftv yoars it was familiar
with tho footsteps of George Wa«i}iinu:toii, and under its
rouf he cast his last vote in 170!). The old Alexandria
Musi'um, which contained many relics of Washingtoo,
was burnt, but tho relics were saml.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO rCRCHASR.
FsrUeulsrf of Price, *c., of thr foU-iwInirbolci to btper.l <!Iwr!»
the Rvntierocn by wliom thi-y arc reauuud, whoMi iimmc* aud aiUnaie*
are given for that purpoK :—
Caoliohtro. kixrr uku MruKwr»i>iaj*n:x AiirvTHznts
VNKRKS JAniiHc^oini'n*. I7W).
Mf^llOlUK.S Al'TnrNTIQrKS III' ClOI.IiiSTIirt, irvi.
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IjKTTIIK UK COUTi: UI MniAllKAU Sl.i: CAUt.KiSTRO RT Lavatcs.
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thv (jri'nimu tran«lation.
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whu will tie thunkful for early otieri.
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I SHI A. Iiy Jfciiit Fny do .Viidr«..la. TrarmUtci l.y Sir. 1*. IV)cht-
Loii-loii. intil.
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^aticrjer ta Carrr<{pantrrntif.
Joan (»f Aut!. — When referring Mij. Xoki.l JUSh
t'l.IiH-: (antt\ j). 4n0; tn M. /tdtpiirrr't pricjitvfy printwi
I Uouto llistoriquL'/Iw- iufornuition rcsprr.ting Joan of Art.
trr omitted to stute that thr tam/// i* jrihlisfud in thtitf^*-
Hi'wan'g int€rv*timg ni/Htnv, vntithd Hi.^torical L)iiliciliue»
and OmtCHtod K vents, rvrietreil in "X. «& y." N' Afn,
I lb»;s, I'h S. i. 331.
1 A. 11. 11ATR.S (Kdijbaston.) A more correct rrrtiamff
Jrkyir* *» Tears of the Cruet m " uppeiircd in " X. d Q."* 1*
8. X. 172.
Errata.— 4»'» S. vii. p. 470, col. i. line 19 from holtff"
(of text) dele " r= " ; ibid, coL last line Uit notej r
4*&TIL JcrjrE 17,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
IMynON, 8ATURDAT, JXTSE 17. IftTl.
CONTENTS.— N« 181.
KOTKfl ; — OfitJi von Berlichhiffon, SO©— ATrintcr** Error,
ia, — Lord Erakioe - Steel Eriirraviug — "HlbblU ** —
JLoimImi to October — Tvvttty Poiiifrs of iHel^ — Mra. Hmr*
Tfot dark^ieodlOS — McmoriJ^I Bells at St. Dun»Uu*i
r **- l^i^txy PortnitA — Itlflj Day at Oxrord, 5L0,
QUEUES: —** Agreeing t^ differ ** — Alcest'ii — " Arlbur'a
slow Wftiti"— Bumbo: Clod Berf—OoUcetion for a Hli-
tonr of laus. ±c. — *' Ex Luc*? LuoeUutn" — Ancifitit
SiQsm* — Flemish Ft>li t i^d ia £iu(buid — ** The
Garaen of tbe Soul " — i%n Bood " -^ Hebrews
ii. Idl — Joha Kii]0]ow i^o — Samuel MAundor
— MmimuLa^ a-nd Carlyltj -^ McdilUc Query — MUtOQ'A
Folk I^re— MoQoUth at Maftnata — Ancunt aiddl«»— The
Sej^ui^gmt — TbomM Bimon — Jamoa Smyth of Whttohill
^ biicip — ** The Sonir of Solomoa " — Biihop Jorcmj T^y-
lur— &Iby Family, 513.
RBPLIES^ — Eood Screens in SulTollc Churche»» 516 —
llurtl Paintinit in Storsit^n Church. Norfolk, 517— " Jaok "
Hitrton. 518— Pootry of the Clomk, /&,— Eoalm, B19 —
Jlwria^ea of Enfrlinh Princf^^-ii, 520— Ovid, " Alcbam/*
lULSii! •* B«nigmor/" 531 — 8un-dia] Inscriptions- Pivs-
liiror Ptelewe — Bismarck anticipated: "Htewiiifctu their
ovQ Ormvy " — Childjv n's Gfttoua — " The Wind has a
iAiigwwcL^ Ac — Cooke« : Cookeaey i Cooke — Another
Old Jenkins — FrsnHs: Junloa und the 8Mla— Oricln of
thx S I uam — *' Tho Thutiderer " — Uomn
— E- of " Barrnl-or|iran Fluno" — Mra,
Mar. 1 Dyer — Stunt Jlers — Oarae — Tho
HociniM' - '[ » oji u -^7 k — '• Thirty Dayi hath September " —
%%, Vaitt« tine— Miry QU'.'en of Scots' Iiuprtioiimcnta —
'*C*»iii«» to Grief *'— pMrT^i Changftsof Kaiiie8^'*Drum" :
an Bvesunv Pxrtjr , '
fttttti.
GUTZ VON BERLICHINGEN.
GSIs 0* Gottfried von Berlichinffen, or Ber-
liiMlHllirr^ amnaiiied ^ of the Iron Hand/' in beat
Iebowh to ms by Gothe'a drama or Sir Walter
Scott's tranaktion of it. Very lately the well-
lanttwn philologist. Dr. W. H. J, Bleek, has dis'
oovocd a Tery interesting hL^torical document
felfldx)^ to him in the shape of an inscription at
tiie end of an old manuscript Tolume in the Grey
libra^ in Cape Town. The manuBcript Tolume
m quse«tiaD ia a very curious one, " written ia the
loarfeeeiitli century/* I quote the words of Dr.
Bl-ckt—
It oonuUi* leaaoftui from the Goapela, and U highly
atfid with Ttiry qnaint luiniatures and mltiib in
pya and ooloim. The pr«iicnt bmdtjitkf is evidently
etigiaali and from the wori * im. ..!.«..». ' ,.,i.; >, ..,p^aj.^
Ibiu tsnsflf oa tii« fltam ped co\ ' u me
i»fiicclyb«loii0MltothcCou\ atimr-
teeh ia Uue Odewald, now the rc^cnce ol Xho. Ptince of
l^niB^TBO, a wmg rolative of Qoean Victoria's.'*
The inscription in question fixes the precise
:iLi>' during the peasant war of hit presence at
A!!^ arbock A parchment leaf attached to the end
c V r of thiij volume, ia the writing of tbe first
l^nn rf the aixteeath century, beam the following
"* jVjioo do. 1^.25 fflr
argento ^eminjaqu^ t^
^uodam sobHitaiij (n
huiuj libri, aaro
Uippi & .Ijuiohi i\
> GgC2 dc Deilin-
gen nomine at alio rostioane fectJ anteslgnano Georgio a
liaUenber^h Unio arte^ factis uero et actious homine per*
fido, latroae, et propHi honoris prpdigo, cleri, nobilitatisi
ac proprii domiui, contra evang^olic4U tocius quoque na-
tnralid Icgia sanctioned perseejuotore infestiadmo, eccl&-
aiarum inetiper et religiosonm locoram dovaatatore et
extvrDunatore atrocbsimo.^'
'* In the year 1525tO& the eve of Philip and Jamei;
there took rdace tho spoliation of thia book, which vraa
corered witli gold, silver, and jewels, by one who was
made cooapicuous by the title of nobilitVt G^tz of Ber^
Ikhin^en by name, and another leader o? the rustic mob,
GtH»rge of Bail en berg, a butcher by trade, but in his
deeds and actions a perfidious fellow, a robber, earelew of
hifl own honour, a most inimical persecutor of the clergy,
nobihty imd of hia own lord, contrary to thci ordinances
of theGoApd and those of every natural law ; also a moat
atrodoua apoiler aad destroyer of churches and all reli-
gious places/'
This fixes April 30, 1525^ &a the date of the
vi^t of Got2 and the insurgent peasants to th^
Convent of Amorbach.
The volume in ijuestion is now mounted on
brass ornaments, evidently antique, and probably
of the date immediately following its spoliation.
It is probable, boweven from the very tenor of
the denunciation, that it was the work, not of
Gutz, but of the Metzler or Butcher George of
Ballenberg of G others dramtu Gutz was but the
nomiiial captaiii or chief of the insuj^ents, and
must have been at Amorbach almost immediately
after he had accepted the captaincy ; for, having
met the insurgents at Gundelabeim^ he was on
the following day at Buchen forced to put himself
at their head. Thence they proceeded through
Amorbach, Mittenberg, &c., on their way to
Wuraburg,
The above interesting particulars are condensed
from a communication by Dr. Bleek to the Ce^
Magcadne^ and may be worthy of a comer in
"N, &Q." H.HALU
Portsmootb.
A PKINTER'S ERBOB*
The third edition of my Myihoiogy of Greece
and Italy was printed i>erbatim from the second^
except where additions were miMle in M8, My
surpriae, therefore, was great when, under tha
head of " Fortune/* in the mythology of Italy, for
** altars and fanes *' I found ^' altars and gamee.'^
It was a pUKzle to me for years. At lost it struck
me that, as in the com|K>»i tor's case the type ia
arranged in boxes, each box containing the type
of one letter, and iks the compositor works me-
chanlcaU}', be may stretch too far or not far
enough, and so t»dre up the letter before or after
tbe one he requires, and the reader seeing tha
error may mate the correction in the wrong
place : thus fm^ may have become ^<uic, wbic&
the reader changed to t/*tme. On inquiry I found I
was right, and that this is a constant source of
error.
510
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
Now there are aik places in Shakei^peftTe tbiia
corrupted, and curious enough they have all heen
corrected, and rigrhtly, by myself imd others— a
sure proof, by th« wnv, thnt emeitdQtioti» when
acting under a tme critical sense, is no moro hap-
hazard work. The places are as follows : —
"Or for loue^i sake, a word thnt hues all men."
roiJe'f Lnb, An IV, Sc, 3.
Here Hantner properly read mmtes, and to our
ahame be it said, no editor aeenw to have fol-
lowed him.
'* A mother^ oni] a miAtre^i, and a friend*'*
Am imi. Act L So, 1,
Here at the first glance I saw that the right
■word was fcrrr, but I supposed that a part of it
bad been elTaced, and too printer snpplif?d the
want. I now see that the eompoBltor and the
reader made the ordinary mistake.
" To nje she speaks ; she moufs mo for hfr tbemo/'
Cm. n/Erwrt, Act II. Sc, S.
Hejre I saw plfunly that the word waa lom^f
which the context proves to bo rigbti i
** My birth-place haue T, nnd mTlovc*B xipon.**
Will it bo believed that the obvious correction
hattf waa left for St^vena? — u and w, being used
promiacuously, were in the same box*
"And the marring upsprin^Sf Teela.'*
Hatttleij Act 1. Sc. 4.
For i the compositor took up m or t', which the
reader ch angled to it\
" 8fllt Oeopatra, soften thy mfattd lip.''
An.und C7«r«>/i. Act U. »Sc. !♦
As Cleopntra*s dark skin is frequently referr<»fl
to, the right word muat be iand {tnmi-'d^t of which
the compo.sitor mtide unnti or ixmdy and the reader
changed it to wand {wcm'd)*
Surely emendation is no mare gue^woik*
Lord Erskttte. — I extract the Mnwln^ from
an autobiographicBl Memff^ of TkomnA Hm-dij^ i
whose trial on a charge {of hip;h treason in 17V)4, I
and his acq^nittal after nine day»* inve-aUpalion, |
are well known. Speaking of Mr.^ afterwords
Lord Chancellor Erekitie, hi^ counsel, the memoir
atates : —
*' Ont' disappointment la the legaw way i3 particularly
worthy of rcinnrk, A fj^iMitlein"" ' ' — i^ ftirliinn in Hef-
byishirc^ of tbe iminc of Ivunt. Ita Htat^ Trials
m 1791, made hi* will, rinl in f hi? rjpproba-
iion of the ability. ' , U-
qucij ce diipla v»Ki' \ . 1 v*
beqncathca lum asj *,..,_ ...l.. .,^.^„i,a^ m» l..j, i> iiioti-
Band pounds. Hardy himself was also handsomefy ni<?n-
tioned in the will, b> which Mr. Kant afterwards added a
codiciL He died about seven years nflerwartia, snd hii
attorney came up to London with the will enclosed in a
letter written by the gentleman himself at llio time of
making lU After Mr. Erskin© hud rend the ktter he I
aakad the attoTcey if ha had taken ihe pro[
to make th« codicil valid ? He rcph'cd * N-
Mr. Ertikina, * Bj' God, yon hnTelo*t me the e ia|4
Krskiae tent for Hardy a few day» afterward*. ^
what had happened, ' aijd said that Ui^ will ^,.,_,.,,^
through the ignorance or villaioj oi » atvp^ oofUtij
attorney/*
Not having heard that this di
mentioned elsewhere, or that it i
generally, it humbly appears to a^ U> lu^iitji
eertion in '* N. & Q.^'
Edinbargh,
Stesl EnoraVh^o,— a, Correspondent 3
suggested (4*** 8. vii. 334) the photogTapbisg tl
old inns and manor houaea of Eo^f»nd ft«fittt,|
loso them for ever. May I .^^i
and propose thataome one ^
the taste should undertake n ^rr
grrarings ? Experience has not yei
photography will stand the ravages ..[ nrq
apart from this qucation, I have little ha
in saying that photography ouffht not to ^
engraver out of the field'. Tet read tb
graph, cut from our ^'>-'il t.mt.. v .^
" The art of steel «
the youngest line en;;}
be over fortj^ aofl without a pupil.
efiticru9 of pb^tbgraphy ha\*« Bacc«<«ifuil
It strikes me with alarm. Rath
80, 1 would devote my leisure to 1
To neglect it will be a di^grac*^
hope tliat the statement I nave ^
gerated, \\ ^lhu,-^
'*HiiiBXT8,"— ITy likle boy went out walk
in Devon with bia nurse, a g'enuint^ af^ediaen d
the cmiDty, and came home highly eidtM hPrnti^
he had seen "two hihbit^*^ on a iroa
Perhaps it is worth noting that thi-
word, which greatly puzzled me, i^ the '
Country mode of prononnciog ejf«€ — i #
eft GTnetct^ , V
LojTDOTf m October. — The late Lor* 1
John Archibald Murray, tlbo SeottiiU jt^^a —
thus writes to a friend ;^ '
" I am much djspr»sed to mmtir
will think a great piradox, that i
(.'xci^r^.-^ivi.'' ; bat it Ls otily U>,'D vr m auluma ttj.it ^
what I call Hoolety^-^innn part less and tbe
whom vou like or are disposed to ^.^ !♦---» /-
day. in April and May tnere are
thftt it distracts me, and I go out
fatigued that I am umible to attend La iUi^v
pn^^is m conversation^ aod have pot i>n£ideat]
flpints to take aahjira iu it,"
Had the good-humoured acC' ;
been more abstemious at table He \, v. un-
less discomfort J.
J TwEifTx I'oi?iw.p? PrwT*.r-Xhe ,_
which, I think, ougtt to find a plaoo in f*Jji
4«*8;Vlf.i<o«iii7iTli]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
1« «
rj
•l^^'i-e ActJount of our duty to God an4 our
It was written In 1557 Ujr t>j^^
i : . rigiitfollji'.
ijil in TriQity#
in unitv, * , • i
Thrtite pfefBoiis, one in Deity.
To «*»rve Him aJway, guitelef^ly,
T - -k Iliiji all thu'iijtf, iifedfully,
i^p: ITiui ih all euqi;»atiy/
rijin fUivrty, hc.irtiljrf
! i rn al Way, ChristI Ati ly*
! mercy, pam6fhtly»
lii» • 1 irti ahvay, thankfully.
ll» i alway, virtue iiily* '
Jfiw i" 1' '^ uiv neighbour hoortBtlV*
|(^* To IiM>k for dn-atli stilj^ pi'CMD^ly,
!7. To hrjlp ftic inr.or, in miser}'.
n'a ralieity*
;>c;, and ctiarity.
_,, M,^ vT.t*ii* u^M,-. .ii.j bat vanity : '
Be poorrs of CttmsTi.vjriTr,
Som0 ioiarmfttton about tli;0 fiuiLor would h&
acceptiibk. Tnos. Hatcllfjpe,
Mbs. IIahrikt Clabke. aged 100.— Tho en-
closed from the Sundttj/ Tivwi of May 28 deservcB
••Fd.vf.ital of / T . ..y iMi^ Years of Aoe.— On Mon-
d«]r nwromt: thr liiw of Mrs. ITarriet Clnrk(%
^dow of Mr. Th i.LS fonnejrly of Maryltsboiie,
irere interred in l\i;jj.ii,il Uroea Cemetery, near the grave
</ Tpuj H<xm1. Thy (lenea^ed resided at NortlivroiJ, and
"Imd attained the remarkable age of l^^'* v^-ar^.'*
U there for *»if]tJpKv»«i*/ that Mm* Clarke
iir it h um\i^y>A to ask wlxat eoidence
i: i Lited fact^— Eu, " N. & Q."]
Mbmoriai BfitM AT St. DtrssuAif *s, SrErKUT,
Iiiacriptiona on the church lielld of St. Dunatan's,
Stepney. On the treble : —
**Ca«t by Mi'ss* 3Iears & Son, LoacIun» Fcdit 1806.
iitnrixe. Harper, U.D., liector. Mathew EaAum, Kobart
Turner, W"" Wade, W^ Thorasoo, Gcg. Evcuritt, Church-
wardens,'*
Second bell, third bell, fourth bell, fifth bell
the same inscriptiou.
Sixth ball :«
** To the Piou* Memftn' of M« Prisca Cobom, a libetal
Rfrripfacfr'^ i l* thti Seamen's Widows of tlie Parish of St
D Liri3 1 a 1 1 ^ , S t ^ I I ) -y. J . Mears & Bon Feci t, 1 806."
SevGotU bell :^
•• The following inscription was upon ih^ sixth b^H of
tbe late peal :—
" 'TifjrlniM e<?Tegl« rocof, cAmpnuft miriie, 1503/ T.
!!««» dE Soa Fecit, 18(HJ/*
Sail
liyi
Weii
onr of the Volnntoera of tlje Pariah of
SicDntn. thiff Kaicliif C<nri»* cotnauuided
)r, U, C, O. T^ Ly W"* Thom-
Toplar ik UlaiHiwall, by John
■'i.
1784.
, 1806,
dohu MsiheWJ, Tr^aanfer,
i;^' the
r 1540,
lit Belk
in pTo-
^ Thirl-
Wnde.
Ninth ben :—
... 1
the ..-M... ,.,
T. Menr^v
Tenor beU t—
•* The late Tenor (Wrfpht, 49 Cw«) was pi
Prions of the Holy Trinity* Uulte^s Plao
Nidiolsts rimdwortht rentiw«d by Thom*ia /<'
wits - ' ' v-^-' -' ,1 ". ,- V ■:" ' "'''
Pft.
recii^'
were licvii-jt intu Ten Uy 1 , M^ir^ A
sanee of Geo, Harper, X>^V,^ Kcctor, K
wjUI, Lecturer, Mathew Enfuiu, Rol>* i n i >•« j ,
GtH>. Everritt, Churchwnrdenf*. J^'* Cnrtij?, Esq»; J*"**
Edwards, Esfj. j Jert-mijih f^imw, Ev|. ; .Ichn PauUtii Esq.;
M^ James rxirnfeild, W, M. Simcm«, Mathe%r WartoUt
Surveyor; Jk>hn Baiter, Vestn^ Clerk. ^Weight, 31 cw%
Kev D."
Tapestbt roRTKAiTB*— At ft 6(i3e of ttiicient
efFectfi that lately t/^ok phic© at 8Umbridge Erlea,
Hants, thene waa mid a, very handsome piece of
domestic tapestry^ worked on white satin, show-
ing faded gold nod white beadB^ This waa de-
acribed in catalogue aa —
" Tape$tr.v Neodliwork, rapneaoiititiir Charles II. and
his Queen In tho cbariober of a Shepherd and Shepherdesti,
date about 1670."
This curious epeoimea of needlework may now
bt) sueu exhibited in the shop window of a book-
seller in Beiuond Street^ StDUthampton, and at-
tracts the attention of all those interested in this
bygone accooipliahment* It ia an elaborate pro-
duction. E. n.
Kelson tSqtutre, S,E.
Mat Dat at Oxfoed.^TIio following account
(taken from The Tt'meg) of this time-honoured
cufltoni appears to me to deserve a comer for pre-
servation in *' N. & Q,'* :—
**The aneient fustotn of chanting a hymn on the top
of Magdalen ColkgB tower, Oxford, woa duly obsa'Vttil
yesterday morning at live oVlock by the choir, under the
direction of the organist, Dr. 8t&iner. For this service
the sum of 10/. U rocHrrtl out of the rectory of Shnaa-
hrid^e in Glon Tradition informs ns that,
previously t<> i tion, a requiem mass was cdt-
brat«»d on the tuj. r . l... , u.wer every Alay-dxiv morning,
at an early hour, for the repose of the soul of 11 enry VIL**
J. S. Udal.
I
I
I
S12
NOISBS AND QUERIES.
[4fkS.yiI.Jcnl7,71.
<Si\xttM.
*' Aqbxsjsq to diffsb." — When did this phzase
fint come into uae ? There is an idea somewhat
similar in Sir Philip Sidney^s romance^ the Catm-
tess of Ptmbroke^a Arcadia,^ in book i. of which
tiie noble author observes : —
•* Between these two pewnnnpes (/. e. Dametas and
Hiflo), who nerer agreed in any hnmbnr bnt in diaagree-
ioff, is issued forth Miatress Mopsu, a woman fit to par-
tidpato of both their perfcctione."
Eff.
Alceshs. — ^From what Yersion of the story of
Alcestis did Mr. Leighton take his picture —
^Hercules wrestling with Death for the Body of
Alcestis"? The critics refer to Euripides, and
The Spectator, one of the highest authorities on
artymys: —
•• Mr. Leighton has ventured, with the best result, to
represent the overthrow of Death as produccil liy the
most scientific croaa-buttock, and enforced by an irre-
sistible twist of the right fuoL The remaining groups
are too numerous, or too little massed togetlicr, allhougli
graceful in themselves and genorallv pretty in sentiment.
Alcestis herself, yet sleepirip; the sfcep of death, is fairly
well portrayed ; 'but tliere is no one tlie mind ran ac-
oept as a charly aatiafuctory ptrwnijicaiion of Admt tus, on
whose account all these thiujrs wore done. Some have
objected {after re/reshiny thvir nwmorUs regarding the
m^th) that Apollo is not present. But he could hardly
with decency look on, while his own bargain with Death
(viz. that if'Admetns lived some one should die for him)
waa being broken by a deity of inferior power." — Spec-
tator, May 27, 1871.
Those who object to the absence of Apollo have
not " refreshed their memories " with the play, in
which ho comes on with Death to speak the pro-
logue, and appears no more. Death ends it by
showing the sword with which he intends to cut
the lock of Alcestis* hair (v. 70), and I suppose
does so, as she dies at v. 401. After that, he has
no more business with her " body." She is dead
before Hercules arrives. Ho asks where her tomb
is, and says ho will go there and watch for Death
coming to drink the blood of the victims : —
K!bnrcp Xoxiiffas ainhw i^ cSpas (ru0els
Hdpr^Uf k6k\w 8c Ttpi/BoAu) X^P^^ ifiaii^f
Oi>K itrrty vfrrts ai'T^v 4^atpi}(rfTai
Mayovvra irXivpd, rrp\y yvyaiK ifiol fi^Bf,
XV. 8G2-0.
It is plain that ywaTKa does not signify "body,"
as he says, if Death do not come, ho will go to
Hades and intercede to bring iVlcestis back. Wh<?n
he returns with her, he tells how he seized Death
at the tomb (v. 1101). The picture represents
the wrestling as before the royal liousehold. Had
Admetus been present, the beautiful scene with
the veiled Alcestis would have been lost.
I believe that Mr. Leighton is an accomplished
scholar, and no journal is less likely to be mis-
taken on classical matters than 7% Spectator : so
I infer that the pieture is not from Eurimdea, and
ask, from whom P H. B. C.
U. U. Club.
" Arthue's 8W)w Wain " (Scott's Loff^ canto i.
V. 17.)— 'Why is the constellation of the Great
Bear called *' Arthur's Wain"? I know what
Miss Yonge (ChrMan Namei, L 125Xand Owen
(quoted by Southey in introduction to Ayn^ Arthur,
i. vii.) saj' about it; but the information they give
is not satisfactory. C. W. S.
Bumbo : Clod Beep. — ^In an hotel bill of 1709
I find -^
9, d,
" Clod beef about 40 Ibfl., charged only 20 lbs. :> 10
IJumbo I '^^
In another bill, about the same date, "a dod
of beef* is mentioned. What part of the ox wis
meant ? And what was Bumbo ?
J. M. CowpiR.
IBumbo we take to be J?iiin6o, a nautical drink. Sr
Walter Scott says : *' He intrudecl himself rni the tmtal
presence of Hawkins the boatswidi), and Dtfrrick the
quarter-master, who were regaling themselves with a can
of mmho, after the fatiguing duty of the dav.'* {The
Pirate, eh. xudx.) — Clod ia the coarse part or the nod
of an ox.]
COLLECmOK FOB A HiSTOBT OP 1^170, BIC^All
''Extensive and Curious Collection of Maiw-
scripts, Drawings, Engraving, Newspaper Cut-
tings, for a History of Inns, Taverns, and Coflee-
Houses, to be sold in one lot by Messn. Soutbgale
& Barrett, 22, Fleet Street, on Monday, JIaT 97,
1869 " (see The Aihepumm, May 21, 1859). Bdujr
very anxious to inspect the above collection, I
should |feel greatly obliged if you, or any reader
of " N. & Q.," can tell me where it can now be
seen, as I cannot find anythinjr relating to die
subject in the British Museum Library. W. D.
" Ex LrcE LucELLiTM." — I cut the followis^
from the Evening Standard of May 1 : —
" * Ex Luck Lucellum.'— * The Man About Town,' io
the SfMirthig Gazette, says: — 'Many ns are the retorts
which have followed and been founded on Ifr. Loirc>
now memorable er luce lucellum, perhaps the most biMV
U that which asserts that it is not orif^inal ! I «■
assured by a venerable " Man About Town," one who his
not quite'foiigotten Ids woU-titored lore anent the politics
of the last generation, that he perfectly" remembers tke
piirasc bein^ appended as a motto to a satirical coat of
arms devised for Mr. Pitt on that minbter creatrngpSr
rather increasiu^, the window tax. My informant %A^
that he is almost sure that he once bou'^ht a copy of tbac
coat, duly coloure<i, for sixpence ! It is, however, twt
possible that lilr. jMvre never heard of the former aqalb»
and that his classical fancy hit upon the idea quite «
original as the satirist of 1784.* "
Perhaps Mr. Reid will kindly tell ne wfaete
the caricature referred to is contained in the col-
lection of which he has charge at the Britkk
Museum. R. R P-
[Mr. Kekl informs us that nothing of tha kind c
among the caricatures of 17dl-o ; nar it tbcia 9aj d«
4<kS.TIt JcsfKlf,*?!.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t^ it in Om CeaeM Index in tli« Hitflldlloti 6i uUricm]
AXCIENT EXTGMA. — I off^ R C1lriOTi« old
e: ' r aoliition to tb© ingenious wndiira of
In El
itn tjuneo et cadiyer inttiB."
'A
A
ring
tber
.> t "-' '- ■■"- --r ^ within/*
F. c. n*
In Smil^^^s' Ilxtjmfiof^ I find the obsprvatiorr that —
"O: ' :"
the rv i
«hl«tb(bfc 111 ]\Kid woriiA, imiiii!:::*^ an'l places^ '
Can &ny of jour Sussex reftdeia gird aaj in-
atettocfi of 'these P A» 9*
" Tht GABi>Eif OP THE SoTJL.*' — Tho histoTy of
tbis work is somewhat obacuro. It bears the
name "f T7irTi?^ril Ohalloner, Bishop of Debrs^
Vicai of the London district, who died
<m Jf! ', 1781. The b<x»kT however, is
VBttlnT noticed by James Barnard in hi^ Life of
'^MMard ChnS<mtr (1784f, nor in nny bibliogra-
«ilMl account of Challoner's works. The earliest
^hh edition in the British Museum hna the date
y\ and leafl publiehed twelve years after the
nf l>r» Challoner, In 1S59 there appeared
at \ Aoncj —
•♦r.b* Jjirditi de TAm^ on CHnix d«9 Meditationa dc
Clialloi^ ;. pour tons le^fiimancUc^ et les prindpfd'** f<Stw
«lt riiiMi >. Trmluit de rAo^hii:! par IVtUb^ Baurdy,
I- there an earlier Frencb translation of this
TTork ? J. Y.
** The Grecian Beud."^ — I would ask my me*
.»:,..i t,. *!.-.,. ^^^^ i^^ QT- iintlier wan, the true
N, Si QV' i'^ S, vii. 123] ? I am
- not the ungainly forward stoop
V- d at the present day» and which
Ci les in the nips or loins^ or both
r i-ii ii I My belief is, that it was a natural
Hi: f nal peculiarity in tho conformation of
i\ 1 or humeral (neck or shoulders) por-
ti spinal column; throwing tho head n
little juore in advance of the bust thmi is asual
with our modern ladies, but at the same time
fiL' it cracefully downwards. In a population
,1 KX> I oulv know one young lady who in my
.<l0]^liuoti has thU tru6 Gredan bend^ and I need
■4iBMweiy eay that it is neither the result of art nor
affectation' M. D.
TTrnp.EWS tx« 10. — ITie Committee on the lle-
X i A ish Bible is respectfully rtqu«ated
to i olio win g^ suggestion : —
At Hebrews ix* 10 the vord haBf f^i^vov migfht,
without gi-eat violence, mean the nctim which
attests the Cnvr^Tmnt Wn sli nisLl \^^.^^y ^',.^A r —
"Forwljerc ry
be the death of i ; a
covenant Id oC foree ov«^r tlie daikd, d'mea ii never htkA
force while fbat which attests it is living/'
This makes as dear a^ aunli
the ordinary rendering niak^
jAsrr.it r
Ain» Pre9b*n Mission, Pttkinp, Vhmn.
ff K. .!,.♦.. 1 >..„,. ^ir.^.i ;„ 1.;, \'.... 7
wbich
.UCILVAIHB.
IMrtf
giv
dcjir
tLie«
ijCT.* ft
It niAdo It. For n
. ».-^ iiflnd, Aodng: that u .^ vj ..- r.i,'r-,i-ii, „i all
while he that made it is alive,'']
John Kingsiow^ thr Rkcitise,^ — ^Particulars
are re^ueated respecting the life of John Kingalow,
who IS said to have been the iirst rcclu&e who
lived in the Hermitage founded within Shene
Monagtery in 141Gj and whether any record or
work eiistfi containing any account of his life.
HunEiixSMrnr.
St. Leonard's, Bridgnorth.
Samiticl Mattn-der. — Can yon give me any in-
formation respecting Samuel Maunder t' — a name
fftiniliar to most people as the autlior or compiler
of some half dozen very useful Treaduries, but I
have never seen in print any details of Ids life,
where or when bom, and the date of his decease,
A new edition of the Bifif/rnphieftl Trrti^tty hm
lately been published, L is made of
the original projector. ae deserves
ftome notice, however brici, in iujll inUiretUag
Tolume? Wm. Wriqhx.
.Sj P., 1 . ir.,1 n\d Kent Road.
\> was the hrother-ia-law ofWilUatn
jPini ' (1 his .^i-f'-r'j. andli^iiltlii- <"Iiiit'f band
in iliy |>ri-p4i<*lii>ii of th«' vii for
&chal^ls to which Pinnotk' md to
him the yonth rf r- ^ r^ ' *' j^
instraction. It i-
mate aad finn 1 1 >
literature in ita btit»t »eut»a for ddueiiti^^ lUo hiiu>ti uj the
people, *♦ smell wwcet and bloaiom in the dast,** tso Xonir
shall the mcniory of 8amtiel ^r . ■ « - i ' ' ' /I
throughout tho liritifth Empire. 'n
Gibson Si)nnre, laUngton, on Apn. i
brief notice of hiDi in Cates*a DktiLfHary i*/ MtuonutitUt
td, 1867, p, 726,]
Macatttat A!n) CARtTT*E, — Who is the author
of the following parallel between Maoauluy and
Carjyle: —
"To sum ap the kmlini^ rbafat^torijitir** Af the** two
greatautli-r ' ' '' '/ ^' -• ' ! r-
baps the i
tho morP! i »
all their bnlli.Hiiay« areubvt
wbilfit those of Carlyk ar y
light, which makes hk b. «i iu* mat
they are to many a weary jrim, Mac-
auliiy writes like a tranWr i man of the
I
514
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»k 8. Vn. JusHE 17, 7L
world; Carlvle like a man who Mnokn l>eforo and after,'
and * hean the mil of the a^^en.' Maoaulav acldonK geti
beyond the out:»ide of a clmractor, whilst Cnrl3-le jiitrcos
to' the ^'e^}• heart. Aa an exjimple of my tiieaninjr, I
nee<l only compare Macnulay'.-* brilliant essay on John-
son with CarlyleV on thn samt; Aubjoet. Macanl.iy hu
given us an admirable incture (if .Tnhn.HDn's vuticartl niau,
at of Johnson'a heart ho know nothing. i-#t us how-
ever, read Carlylc'8 essay «tt*»ntivoly, ami wo nt once see
that Carlyle both knew and under.>*too<l .lohnson.'*
JoyATTIAN J^OrCHIEK.
Medalltc QrEKY.— Could any of your corre-
spondentA kindly give mo some infonuAtion about
a couple of BiWer uiwlals which 1 have lately
added to my collection? The first is a little
larger and hisavier than a lialfcrowu piece, and
lias on the obverse the three-quarter busts of a
youn-r womau and an aged man: the former is
represented a^ Ruckling the latter, ^rho is in a very
emaciated condition. In the haok^^round ii* a
fitronply-barred prison window. Tlie lopond (which
begins with a iive-p' anted .star, as a sort of mint*
mark) i.'* — ** ^ I . was . in . prison . and . ye .
came . unto . me ." On the revtTSO are several
trumpets or ])iiirlos, acr(»ss tln'iii l)».'ini»" laid an
open music-book. The name *'. Joseph PaiTy" is
inscribed iu the outer circh*. I would be glad to
know what is the connection between the obverse
and reverse of thia mtsdal, or what in the lirst
instance led to its being stru(!k Y I have also a
specimen in copper precisely similar, except as
regards the iiame that is engraved on the reverse.
The second meflal which I shall be obliged for
information about has on the obverse a full-length
figure of Krin, repres^Mit^'d with a bold defiant air,
holdinjr in Ii't riglit hand a sheatlied sword, while
her left hand rests on a harp. An Irish wolf-dog
sits beside h»»r : overall beino" the leg<^nd, *'Th«
Order of Liberators." In the exergue (in two
lines) are tlii> words " Ireland a^ she ought to be" ;
the whole snrroun<led l)y a double wreath of
shamrocks. On the r^versts Htandinjr on a rock, is
a large cro«*s, witli tlie l«^priui, ** In hoc signo
linces," o^-erhead. Tt) the left of the cross is a
pole, with a cap (of liberty?; thfreon; to the
right are thn^e hands joined* the words *' F!rin go
bragh/' in Irish chariicler.-^, being in the fxergue.
In the distance is a sun-burst, the rays of which
ocxiupy th»» field of the medal. A double wreath
of shamrocks surroumls the entire, as on the ob-
verse. Tliis medal is about the size and weight
of a crown piece, and is of rather coarse work-
manship. 1*. ^y. II. xasii, b.a.
Florinda Tlaco, Dublin.
MiLTOZ^'s Folk Lork. — The vitality of our
common folk lore is well known to those wlio
have only cursorily considered the subject; and
when thia haa been enshrined in our best poets,
the chances are that it will remain unchanged for
many centuries. Milton has a choic<> morsel in i
his hrst sonnet, and it will be interesting to ascer-
tain through "^. S^ Q.*' in how many icooiitiei
this piece of love lore still exists. When addtirai-
iag tJie nightingale, he says : —
** Thy liquid notes that close the eve of day^ ,
FirMt heard be/ore the shalhw CHchn>*t bifl,.
Portend succe»t in lovr. O ! if .Tuve's will
Has linkefl that amoroas power tn thy soft lay,
Now tSmely ping, ere the mde bird afhata
Korotel my bopclcM doom in some groye nigh.**
Id rAUcffro he tells of the doingu of <* Fairv Mabf
the '* Friar's lantern," or "Will Tvitb the'Wisp'*;
and the ** drudging Goblin," — in terms all ont
identical with tliose by which thi^ir pranks would
be described in Lancashire and Yorkshire at the
present time by the peasants in '^ the undistoxlMd
nooks and comers*' of those counties. So fara«
I know, we have no visits from the nightrngtle
so far north; and hence I hope some of the
" south-country " correspondents will state irhe-
ther Milton's fove-token is still extant
T. T. W.
MoN'OLrm at MEAsys. — On the high gronnd
which, I believe, is tlie southern boundaiy of the
parish of Meams, iu the county of Kenfrew^ dose to
the avenue which nms from the Kouken estate to
Capel Hig, there is a monolith, as far ns I can lednOf
about 5ft. Oin. high, or more. The noTthem and
southern sides are rudely sculptured, and divided
into two sections, each iillcd with a rude onameat
resembling a plait of three. The eastern and wastea
sides have been apparently ornamented, but aie
more indistinct ; a very deep groove is on Uie
eastern side, 'i his interesting stone is in a eon-
field, carefully fenced in. Can any antiquaTv give
me any information respecting its history 'ir Dimen-
sions, as far as I could guess : height, ->ft ^. by
6ft. ; breadth on north and west sides, 3ft.';
breadth on north and south, 1ft. Slopes irregu-
larly from base towards the summit. Thcs.
AyciJKXT RiDDLKS. — Some years ago an oH
friend of mine bought, at a book stall in London,
a MS. Medical Keceipt Book of the fifteenth cen-
tury. The volume bad once belonged to, uA
bore the book-plate ofj " Sir J^^rancis Fust, Bart.
WVl,'- While looking over this quaint relic after
it came into my friend s possession, I discovered
on Uio last leaf two attempts at rhyme, written 1
should say about the date of the Ilefomiatioaybot
certainly not later than the reign of Maiy. One
is still very distinct, and runs as follows : —
" The benety of the nvKhl vi .Miee,
of hncniora mother All that, be,
and l^'ke wvse lady of the ftiy^t
that tyme doth mesure as she tleys ;
the sonn ehe follows eveni- where',
and she ys chauf^rr of the nyer.
this ladys name fayae woold 1 know
that dwells so high A ndea «o low.**
TbiS| I take it, is dearly an elil{fma, and fk
answer to it I understand t6 be ^the'lnMil'^ ^
4«k S. VII. JcHK 17^710
NOTES AND QU^jtEJj.
515
i * f*y an alder .^crib<j, are wriUt'n
u: .nd corner of the s&mo leaf.
This coruer, uwia^^ lu exposoio to the «ur And the
friction consequeat on frequent turning over th6
leaves with appitrenlly not- over-clean hands, is
almost ille;^bl«. I submit the following as an
appixixtiijate teading^^ but must not guarantee
every letter, the writing is so very indistinct:^ —
*' t --^ h ^nwle of thctn that byde
"i;t rotrya jg'du
u' Tki- riddle, but if so I cannot
eat the auMWuK. ^ome of jour readtiis may be
Q to da so. 11. E* T.
"flLR S^PTUAGn^T.^Will you tell nao which lA
the best w ■' -■:''■ bed on the LXX, version, and
all questix : A with it ? W. A. B. C.
r* ' T Iniit gf A Icfn^'*' ' ^: ru.**-
t , we must rrc-
i' , i.p, iiC, 417,
1 J to Sir Lab ce-
! ^' '\ Con*tilt
ni /t:,i,2U-
A \\&<^"
Thuyas 8ixoir. — Where is nmr preserved th«
«»ri$insl mutm^cript of Oliver CromweU's appoint-
noentof Tbuni/ij* Simon to the otfic© of cMet en-
irrav^r and medal-maker, dated July 0^ 1G5(>P It
ii|irmted in (jouirb s edition of Vortue s UWka of
S' ■■■.'' MS* on volhina. in the library of
l !^^* (p, >*<3), containinpr the '* In-
r irunn*nts vt State, Grants of Of-
r .Tano>24, l<j5i, to Uie De.^th of
t_ii..T* t 1 ij<.^ril,'^ and also during the *^ Pro-
t«bi<mte of Klchard €^i<omwell, and the ndminis-
tTAtioQ of the Parliameut/'
;M:irL!mui Ilouae, Brightoi^
{TTEI OF WirrrBHiiiii. — ^This pfersonsge
V ■' M -* ' .^a Wark/'in Scot-
I; lie notoriety as «n
''i lu ,\\n'in\i'-^ pu '""'r-J- towns wlth
about wljioh hv i the Scotch
.,..-.., f ..r* ..,.■^,'.1 ,,. . ,^ ^c<e^ Acta Pari
*^ !tt/^^ Jfcc.) 1 shall
1' .. -. to ask a question
(If- I I, not with the view of saving
Ki\.-rit ,iu\ 1 1' 'iilr.i]i» ill searcbinc, but only because
1 have ei^jsu.^tr of infomiation in
priDt or yi^. wi: \bat T am in aearch
of, 'J i lu fcume of the principal fnct«
r??^i;H'r' , k I havo succeeded m exca-
u^t have been bom c. lG4<)-5(> ;
J Ld before IGbO to Janet, daughter
ltob4;ct MjA^e of Bftlfarg, the '^Elpg'^J^t^r
Mason/* About 1C80 he pn ' ^ \he estnte of
AVhitehill, in the parii^h of near Edin-
burgh, hoiitt^ th6 V iMa JiJ> . 1 if
land at Parkend ai -dalen-Bi
same parish j and iL^ctnveu. a grant of anii> (^.\/unj
throe Hauiefi of tire, «.>r ; oii a chief ardent, a thistle,
vert) from the Lord Lyon of Scotland. Hepoft-
se&sed at this time n tenemetit in Niddry's Wyud
in Edinburgh. In lOiliJ he is assignee oud credi-
tor \u the testament-dative of one Mr. James
\ Smvth, secretary to the Earl of Perth^ who di».Ml
about this time. In 1701 he is the ** cautioner"
for Miss Mariaona Smith, apparently his daughter,
on her mrtrriage; and two yeaw later he buya
another piece of Isod at Paikend. In 170o he
had a sou born, usmed trilbert. The next year
he sold part of WhitphilK but lays out eom*
mont^y to repair hh "dykes** at Parkend. In
171*3 his daughter llella was married to one Gil-
bert Smith in Edinburjrh ; and thirteen j9fa&
later ho uasigus the remftinder of his property of
White hill to his son-in-law Crilbort, m Boourity
for a debt of ^UOh sterliutr. He ttqs de^ui in
1720, leaving- two surviving mtiBf Gilb^t and
Cleiurttirick.
Can any one* give mo any ia formation ^^^^--ti^y^*
hh birth^ ptireota;:e, or rt^alions? '
the relationship, if aim between him :. }.Ll.
James, the secretary to' Lord Perth ?• F. M* S.
SNor. — What is the correct word to express
the sound made by a billiard or a croquet ball
striking another? In the Wostern counties we
should call it mt/fif a term that would with equal
propriety be applied to tl. ' ' ' %.
Imnnuer. Such words :
nji4/^ rapt none of theui
idea as FHop. Since th*
of the light between S*., . .
antagonist, a way valuable ]
has been adopted into our
butuhly sujjgeiit that, with our poverty in terms
of sound, we should draw upon our country
cousins for moTQ at theoi^ |i. 0* A. Pbxc^*
"TukSqxgofS 1 " ^v • ' ^.
phrases of this ui\
as the versions of tbe i
Hograpbical list would ^
Here is oae, probabi> iNi.ii.>>u L
Eclogue, or the Songs of Solon^on. P: 1
by h. Lftuiance, KevisM by F. L. i -. ,./ ..
manascripfc apparently preoared for the peSs.
Mr. L. is profuse in introductorv maiif^r: *'To
the well-ailected Reader'- : *♦ To tli' aded
Vul^ar'*f and *'Th<* Translator'^ li ' ^for
liid *'8acr«^d l " are from 'uhat famotts
French pr>ot, ^ hit '*>,— all in the comic
vein. It tiation the
author 11} ind here is
the ytyle of his deii«uicfc : —
a In T/ie Timt'it
. , , -_ i
516
NOTES AND QUERIES,
f4^8.VILJtwlT,U^
« Yt stupid Astes of tltill Midiw brot»<J,
In rudeness karned, and in lenmiug ^u^l^^
Hftn^T? ftff; I fffiy. profane out this my book
W" prcstiine not once to lfx>k
O \ •■ infectioua brtaih
JBiL -._..„. :.: jwikons and detracting death.
*TiB not to ypu y' I my lines oonuiieiKli
Or do 1 cmv^ y^ ftroar to bf friend
TbU sacred Poem ; ' ^a.^ke aad bite;
UaCf iwa J* utmost * d spite,
Spitt forth the xviu lid brains;
Whip,] 1 il w«^ invective strain*.
You cttu LI, for the wholo worKl knows
lt*9 alanuc'T-prcxuc, and can rcpalnc y blows :
U^ full of pr«cknaii worth, do c<juton thing.
Thfl Peonian waa du otht-r y» a King.
Then do not wrong y* Lar<l*s Anoynted so,
A» ba&e a9per$ioQ4 on bis works to throw ;
Shew more reap^t, forb*^- '■ T' '- Writt,
Nd wnntott faa£y of a cof
Ask j irnM BeJlcaih who I ne,
VV* d each line.
II. Ivre
Co:/^ . :, • • ,.i.i...4.. 1 lio attire
In 1 I 1 ' L , ■ i ?o b6 my qnOl
Con»i- -riMi-t ill m-. 'u- vr;uit of art not wUl.
Then €«Aio y Uiwling, Furyes, rt'preh*ud
In mil^KT terms, lunl the next tifin! wcH mend/*
My query ; Is the bwok in print ? A. G.
Brsnor .TfiREanf Tatlor. — I hAve Itttely seen
mquiries in tho **N. & Q/* for descendanta of
Bishop Jeremy Taylor. My object is not to
answer thoBo {nquiries, but to inttke an inquiry
myself, A Chri^opher Taylor, son of a .Tames
Taylor^ ironmonger in Dnblin (who was dead in
1728), was bonnd apprentice in 1728 to a procer
in London, and became hiin^lf a i^fAcer, having"
a filiop 3n Oracechnrcb Street. He was bom in
1717, and in 1737 (or thereabout*) married Anne,
the eldest daughter of Bir Edward Hales, Bart, of
the city of Lincoln.
Christopher Taylor reside d in the pariah of St.
Mft^us, London Bridge, aijd had a large family*
His eldest son, also named Christopher, was ree-
tor of Selborno when White, the historian of
8elbome» was curate there. The family is now
extinct in the male line.
I should mention that Christopher Taylor^ the
father, b<?camo clerk of the hospital of Bt, Bartho-
lomew, and died there at the age of fifty.
There has been a notion in the family that
Christopher Taylor descended frt>m the bishop.
Can any of the readers of "N. & Q.** say whether
there is any reason to believe that the tradition is
tme or not P Cecil Moimo.
Couicryative Club. S.W.
Sblbt Famtly.— Can any reader of "N. & Q,*'
give me particulars of the early life and parentage
of Charles Selby^ the actor? If so, I shall b«
much obliged by communications n-ddresaed to
H. A. Bainbbidge, 24, Eitss+.^ll iioad, Kenaing-
ROOD $Cn£E!!;S IN SUFFOLK CQL'ECSEl
(4'* a vii. 143, 2e7.y
I «ra indebted to Hftmlct T.' ' .,
Stonham, for the followiutr de*- -^s-
field screen* Theri ' la i>im£Li2t.t
which are painted ..ike, Juki, lU^
thew, Mary Mai^dal'ii*.
S* Mark is ve^t^d in k full white miBtk^ i
derdresa of green; hia right-liftml poiiltrto]
scroll on which ia writteu cw . WASf^ m 01
rs KEDKLBM jvt>E» Th^ U-f-l^^^ffiuild li «( fdl"*
with the ^^ VQfiica/' <^ ^'^ il9 ifi niiilpilk
At the head of thia aaLni .,.. j.viikgrQanilii'lip
with gold staii, with BAHcxvii habc^s in fiidd E&^
lidh lettera,
S. Matthew. l pen in hi^ right iiiadi«»
vested incArini % ffrct?n undcnirea^icnil
in left hand, iiet. . f. i;
written thereon; t , .u;,
but black diaper in^qiuTiidy^a^ aujiiHT^^MAMBmi
in old English letters.
S. John is of a youthful < Vur t
reddish brown^ vested in w i
derg^rment; In ' ' '
baud. At the
gold colour; bur i-i uniu ;^u:,
gold, on which is painted 8A>
S, Lidi-ehas :' - i ^ ■-- i
lined white, tL
At the dexter L .. ^ : ,. .^ .^. ..,.*,._. ^. ^
This saint beard a scroll^ on which is wniln d
MISSIS BJT OABTirEL. 1
S.Mary Magdalene,
specimen of screen paint 5:
h surrounded by a nimbua with
tho headdress of rich grcon : in
jewels, in the centre a
of precious atones. The i
lined green, looped up on the i
the underdress is of gold col
troidered with red llowers. iu
she holds the pot of ointment, t
with pearls and emendd^, *
cross of pearls; th^ I
SANCTA MAOD.
Mr, Watling points out th« ._
between the hgurea of tl;^^ a.,*..,
minations in the Bible,
abbey at Bury, now nt. i
bridge, and consider
to be the work Of t _ . Ibil*
ford. ^ i
Befl/M.—The screen is 'boarded ti|». hut k\
Daly's MSS, on Sufiblk lA th,e |gU<kw1ng ; '
liobtvs DKNI, Audx vx •
Johva MAyHVGH ,
% joELL . prtAj • BjaLmm .
*«fc«.VU.Jc»» 17,71.]
NOTES A^D QUERIES-
517
Sadipeil vlsA.— The foUowin|^ from Davy's MSS.
rolatea to this screen, dow eatureljr destroyed : —
Orate . • . yto , . . aiftbus . . . Johes . , . Boker , * . .
et p . , MMS . ^ . . f il . . * . mvin , * ♦ Uvc . • . ,
, IC9i0^ On the buitressea of this church are the
AooIb of ft blacksmith desig:ned in fllutwork, with
tLe letter Tl r* peated many timea. Doubtless this
T' <*£ the benefactor to the church,
T inme of Bokeii as on the screeA.
contained a good screen. On the
U'^ain. '.■ / ^ ■■ Lod —
FL4GEI.LM E^r IltB flCl TBiWlTlL V« D»TD
SEPTLXVS BST * IHS.
^ifpiston. — No trftc© of this screen now remains.
There were some thirty yeAra ago two panels
lemaitiing', one containing;' a painting of a bbhop
in full pontificals ; from his mouth this legend —
ADORAMVS E VWR ET BENEDICIMV9 TIBI. The Otber
panel represented a congri^n-ation in prayer j from
tlte mouth of one was written— am per scam
CBVCEH TVIM REDEMiSTi MVjrDVM, the back-
ground diapered with inB in monogram, and m
with a crown on the top.
In my next I will describe Uflord, Hitchftm,
and others from intormaiion sent to mo direct
from manT clergy and gentry in Suffolk, to whom
1 am deeply indebted for their kindness in anawei^
T, Red Lion gk^nare.
UUUAL TAINTING IN STARSTON CHUECH,
NORFOLK/
(4««» S. vi. poinim; Tii. 40, 173, 245, 396, 410.)
X am now in a position, haviDg the engraving
,y ^,. ^i f.. * . , ..r„T.|„te mj reply to the strictures
hall do AS briefly an possible,
.,r 1,^n,l .,f ih. ]u.], A\*lth
I have
^ i'*'ds from
]. 'Uth century, with almost an
rs, and find that the fall of
iig ia like the latter; and I
I '6 of the former which at all
• rather remotely, Unbappily»
■ effaced, it is now imposeible
I eiy either way. It is important
effaced portion show ' us a sub-
in cides in character
ith the figure hold-
ii, ijji-^* v,itM nj»_" form resembliag a
1 tree of a brigbt red colour, and also
red ** post " to which F, ( '. TL refers
irt of the bedstt'ad, U so different iu ita
strut LLDl Ol
with that
loug
has
Cbtii4bti«d frotn |i, 499.
existed, and it oomplicjitea the explanation of the
details. The base of the bedstead l\ C. II. says
** apparently " fits into this poflt; that is to say,
we nave a scarlet post to a st*'>ne-coloured base.
A very oxiginal combination ! But to my eyes it
does not fit in is a gap between, sbowing
a diapered p nowbat eiimkr to that oi
the "coyering' or which 1 ehall now speak. Thia
F. C, H., iu a tone of authority, declares to l>e '* a
screen of wood or other solid substance painted
in diaper/' It u therefore inentable that the bed
must, for the greater part, be behind the screen.
So an artist, representing a death-bed, places all
but the bead behind a screen. In the whole
range of art there will not be foimd a paralleL
Now as to the ** chalice.*' Here I entirely agree
with F, C. IL's obseryations. If the form given
in the engraying is a correct delineation, there is
no chalice; neither, by that same eridence, b
there a shield, for its shape is at least a hundred
and fifty years too late ; nor^ by the same rule, Ib
it ** a piece of embroidery '* belonging to the figure
behind. The "cope/' with all deference, is no
cope. It is difficult to imagine how »uch a con-
clusion CO aid be arriyed at, A cope is open in
front, and is fastened by a morse on the breast.
This i6 not so, but i ' ' n chasuble, F. C\ H/i
experience notwitl — one of the period,
however, ample in umh.^^ lalUng down oyer the
Bkiva» beyond the elbow, and showing also an in-
dication of the amice above it It is a matter to
be decided by the evidence of examples. All the
rest of the tigure thus attired is obscure. Now as
to the absence of the nimbus. F. C. II, says it
equally militates a^jaonst my '' i]M-r>ry •, '^ at the
same time he telU you it is ^ted. Now
the objection is a Justine, ; njzli against
my viewn, I will not allow of a fallacious argu-
ment. The *' nimbus '" is omitted by some schools
lato in mediaeval art, but in the thirteenth century
it is not so ; and the totJil absence of it in the
Starston painting is very remarkable. I was not
unaware of this weak point, but thought I had a
goo I nt in this ca^e. L'nless, however, I
can liy ^ood precedent, I shall allow it
to S'tarivl lie.
llaviii. to those objections I considered
most mattrriMi^ i now proceed to the h ' '' '^t,
Mary Magdalene. F. C. II. tells you I o
*' In]: .1 ;. tVnu an old Gk*rman accouju. .*ly
*Hi 'unt" was oo© of many, and was
only ...i V He then pr'^^^"''^^ *" wtn+i. tliiit
•^^ no on»' it at tha? ^
bishop/' i:_ 1 . iL it WA^ 111
an oratory. Hetl;
relating to th^' c
the evident b
faith on my i'
invention. Were F.
considered, I should
C. 11.
uiine
, vrith
1
■ : '.>^
die uulv one to be
W reply, but ^<iwx
I
NOTkife^AifD QUEKtfeS-'
[4»SwTltJfnnt1
readers requjm it Thm tben sliall vtt/ authoritj
(^SbwrjMit iJijrmi sec^trir) answer : —
M»rUt Mji;j:diil«fiii corpus vt B.injj:uinvni cwm tnaltA mora'
(JACioae lAchiymarum aN una'pU: <it'inJc pnoa-
tratA HDtQ alt&ra sam i anima ad liominiini
raigravU: et ang^U eju^ ..i..;....... ^.iim h^innis et cAndcirt
in celtim penluxcrant*. jnctijasexitut«ata»taayiasinkus
odnr IbitJem remansit : ut per Septetn diet ftb ingHditatt-
bus oratorium iontiret," &c.
Any comment is tmueceasafy, as I stall leave
your roRders now to judge between us. A« regards
Martha's death, &c., I counsel F. C. H. to further
reaearcli ; for I am not called upon to give autho-
litiea to one who has so indiscreetly challenged
my Terncity. Should I pursue the subject, I shall
not fail to substantiate what I have uttered.
The rest of F. C. H-'a rcmorkB refer to the ob-
servation of the nnkm. Xow^ are they not con-
stanth> even upon nrinciple, I would say, violated
in legendary art ? It is well known it is so ? Nor
is there any subject in which the unities are more
violated than in the *^ Death of the Virgin" and
the'*' Assumption/' as any one can convince him-
self of by tha smallest nmoimt of reaenrcli* I have
left many points urgtsd by F. C* H. unnoticed
because I am really indifierent to the issue, and
also Consider them of fieo(»idary importance. It
is not my ** theory," nor thf^t of*F. C. IL which is
of conaeouenee, but imih^ which is only to be
obtained oy thecoUiBioniuid expression of opinion.
(>8, Bolaover Street, W.
"JACK" BURTON.
{4}^ S. vU, 331, rt50;44i3.)
Tonr correspondent Edwjlbd Rowpek is in
error when he spealcs of the celebrated Miss Rom
Burton, dau^'hter of Dr, Burton, Canon of Christ
Church, better known by the name of ** Jack ^' —
her name was ** RacheL^' I was very well ac-
Quafnted both with her and her father. I should
think she never, in vouth^ was more than **got>d
looking and fi*esh/' 8he was certainly very clever.
Her mi.'^fortnne was to have chieliy lived in the
society of mou. Hhe used to have frequent en-
counters of wit with the lata Lord Ducioy, Can-
ning^ and others, in which she sustained her part
welh Tier verses were nearly all witirioal. I have
copies of t»everal : one is addreased to the Han.
Charles Bagot, ** My Apology on his objecting to
the Manners of a certain Nobleman, whom 1 at-
tempted to vindicate/' One of the stanaas runs l
thu§»— ^
♦'Til ' ' * ' * r refiiiod,
' A\ ^peAka hii miDd ;
u see,
rts tJee,
-\nii Yoie tuem ail a artrtr
Another is addressed (conv
ments) to Lord Garlies, and .
" I^rd GaUoway'a soil-' 'Mhm faat •toaia it |
following : — ^ ' <
" In a wortl, tlien, this youth has an paSned on my fc
That if fatts croel fate, »hoQld ordain ii» 1" p^rt, »
In the world I'll not tafrr, imt qalditT !'
And hi pmyent end my Uf^ /or Loed G&i
All her ver " '
Dire feuda v
Pegge, the witV> oi in. i
and Regixis Professor
Oxford Volunteer cr "~-
and members of t)i
Lnd V Mackworth pit .-^ .
Rachel produced the t
send vou as it is short : —
j^ht armr.
" TWR myxx, coi/>trKs.
{^Hms Burt '
'» Twice twenty sons of i
Formed a prcmd Hn«, iii
Seized my gay bAnnera with
And swore to' keep them, %J
For tlieset they cry, we even- lou win r
And bravery and beauty fUltd the air,''
{Ladjf Machv '' ' 'Uir.)
*' Twice twenty tnde9ni«^' i , to a row,
Mudc at my feet a fine a i 1 1^ i w ;
A um of Galen, stationed ut '
Who fiweflfji hfl'll stTfke the '
Xot n]j ' ]^\% iu the frtmt or rcnr.
Can 1. nan with a greater fear ;
For^ I' , tit once thay sure wonli ilaf^
If jihown ihii nliiab In my captain's abop j
And, cowarfl-like, would H^amper in a Xxicst^
If threatened e*tn with Major Pegcc^a advkA.
You have conjured up the rememl^n
more than half a century* I bave a
drawing too of her, very fil ^^ >"^» *^^^t I ^
send you. She was a sil l^t ^
Hon nf the poll at Leu liv
Chfincpllor^ in 1800, em'
party m the midnight cons
a yery worthy man^ was an >
younger eister, who married
Balen (I think), of yfhich lK?4y i^df uu^ie J*f**dr
was ft member. H. W, L
Kome*
POETRY OF THE CLOCDS*
(4^** S, vii, 310, 807.)
The following paasaffea from Antonp
iM^
vaira, if known to De Qoincey, might oam .
him luateriaHy to modify his extrnvagviiii ndtw^i
of Wordsworth's poetrv* Shakespeare seenw t>
havo exhausted the eubject in a dngle p«*^/
and one can hardly imagine how this ptaw^, ♦»
much to tbe point, could eacape the rtcolkctsa
of Oe Quincey: —
4*b3.yii. jn»«.7U] NOTES AND QyE:^S.
519
" Sffmi^^9 wa «te a cload that's draeoniih ;
4. f^^wnr Bom^tlme irke a bear or lion,
A.to'wer*d citadel, a pendent rock, '
A fbifced ttiwhitain, or bkie promontoij
"With trees npon't, that nod unto the world*
Aii4 nvwk oar eyes with air: thou hast seen these
signet
They acahUok vesper^s pagcanta^"
«« That whieh in now « hone, eren with a thought
Th« rfv)f^ jdislimns."
Bnt Dthev poeta have not been unobservant of
dofid peenepry, and I bave no doubt tbe following
ezteivti cfUi be largely added to. Milton, in
Piaradm Laa, has the following : —
«( Such a frown
Ei^li east fit tbe other, as wbon two black clonds
With heav'n's artillery fraught, come rattling on
Over the Caspian, then stand front to ftront,
Hovering a space, till winds the Mgnal blow
To join their dark encounter in mid air."
■' Book ii. 1. 7M-8.
In Conifnt we find —
** Did a Aablo cloud
Turn, forth her silver lining on the niKbt." •
And in liia ode "On the Morning of Christ's
Nativity '' : —
" So, wht^n the sun in bed,
CurtainM with cluiuly roil,
Pillows his chin upon an orient wave.**
In Quarles' Emhlcms wo find : —
" To dissolve a rock
Of marble clouds into a morning shower."
Book V. 5.
And in hia Hieroglyphics (xiv. 1) : —
*• Brij^ht Titan's hair;
AVhose western wardrobe now begins t'nnfold
Her purples, fringed with gold
To clothe his cv'ning glor}'."t
Beattie, in the Minstrel (Book i.), has the fol-
lowing paisage : —
* Oft. when the winter storm had ceased to ^a^T,
Ha roam*d the snowy waste at even, to view
The dond stupendous from th' Atlantic wave
High- towering, sail along th' horizon blue :
Where, 'midst the changeful scenery, ever new,
Fancy a thousan<l wond'rous forms descries,
More wilcUv great than ever pencil drew :
Kocks. torrents ffulfe, and shapes of giant size,
And glitt'ring cliffs on cliflfe, and flery ramparts rise."
Young, in his Night Thoughts (ix. L 554-7) has,
as follows : —
" Clouds in heav'n's loom
Wrought throagh varieties of shape and shade.
In ample folds of drapery divine,
Thy flowing mantle form."
• Imitated by Voang : —
•*.OBoe I beheld a sun, a sun which gilt
Thataablaeloud, and turned it all to gold."
Night Thmtghiti vii. 1. 815.
t See Gollins's Ode to Evening! —
«' The bright-faair'd sua
Sita in yon western tent, whose cloudy skirts,
Unth brede ethereal wove
0*eriiang his wavy bed."
But it is to Shelleyi with His exquisite fancy
and felicity of description, we must award thJa
palm as the poet of -the douds; A ehiBter of de--
ughtful paasagea are found in the opening Unes
of hid (£ieen Mob (booklL)^ iVom wnich I may
select the following : — i
'* the billowy clouds
Edged with intolerable radiancy,
Tewering like rocks of jet.
Crowned with a diamond wreath."
** Far clouds of .feathery gold.
Shaded with deepest purple, glenm
Like islands on a daxk blue sea."
*' Golden islands,
Gleaming in yon flood of light."
*' feather^' curtains.
Stretching o'er the sun's bright couch."
. " fertile golden izilands.
Floating on a silver sea."
And in a poem entitled The Cloud: —
** With wings folded I rest, on mine air}' nest.
And t»till as a brooding duve."
But it would occnpy too much space here to
quote nil the passages one finds in Shelley relat*
ing to this subject. If Mr. Cottkrill will read
The Witch of Atias, be will find other passages to
add to hiR list ; and he will also be rewarded in
reading Mariaitfte's Dream, A Vijnoti of the Sea,
and Erenittff, T. IJ^'GLixn.
REALBL
(4'** S. iii. V. vi, pamsim ; vii. 370.)
It is with some reluctance that I return to
this discussion, inasmuch as Mk. Chance, instead
of meeting the main argument, still dwells on
irrelevant points. The real question is, whether
the V found in reaulnw of the sixteenth century
is intrusive or organic. I have shown by re-
ference to the analogies of the French language,
and in conformity with all the philological autho-
rities— Diez, Burguy, Schelor, Brachet, &c. — that
it is tbe /, and not the u, that is intrusive— -the u
which in this class of words is organic, simply
representing the softening of the /—as, e. g,, in hati^
frr)m altua. Until Mr. Chanck can prove that
this automatic phenomenon was not a feature of
the earliest French, it is quite beside the question
to quote instances from later times, when theories
had superseded natural laws, and the language
had become corrupted, to show that / appeared
alongside of the organic ti. The fact is not
dLspoted, but it is maintained that it was dae
to the sciibe^s ignorance of the original laws of
formation, to a fantastic spirit of innovation, or
to an absurd ambition to mend what required no
mending. This is die real question between me and
Mr. Chance. Whetherthe word cAepn^ was spelt
chevaXy c?ievaus, or chevaux, is really no part of the
argument. The first form is probably toe earliest
520
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4^S,VU. JmiB IT, 7L
in point of time. Subsequently, or even coatempo-
raoeouiilr — for the point is doubtf q] — x was ased
(see Burguy, i. \}\) as a contmctian of h or ta,
benc« chmix'; then the proper xneaning of the .r
being ini«iintiMrstcH>d, i> w^i.^ rr^quently employed
for simple ^ and 1im uv ^^ Gheaam, So
in regard to Mt qt r i b I do not deny
to be ft Tariant of the word, though I hftve not
seen it)^ oIbo found oB dmis, ditz, with the femi-
nine fornis (hdcef dttctf, Jcwaw, dQUcCf it is evident
that th<ire w no triic© of **the insertion of o
[or ti] before the / dropped.'* The organic I ia
simply auperaeded by an organic i^ or £ is con-
tracted into :: = a. In no one of these forms che-
vans, chcvauj\ vheva^if doz, Sic* is u ** interpolated,*'
P ' . d by Mk. Chance from Macbault, is
T' in point, and can only be explained,
aa i uuve 6tif<jre shown, by considering the dou as
a phonetic spell Sag of the fourteenth century (at
which time it had unirersally become a«), «>f du.
I have in the precedinj^r remarks designedly gone
ov.*»- M .nri^l already trodden in order to keep tho
1' I'f the argument from beiog lost m ir-
ilJ- ..^ _i^cu8eion.
Mb. OiLAJfCE, in quoting from Ampere, seems
not to be aware that Aaii>dre is simply stating
Fallot's views, not his own- Amp^re^fl book,
though Teiy intere^tiog in many respects, is of
no authority on dialects. It anpeara to me that
Mil Chance baa not examiued for him^lf Fal-
lot's and Burguy^s elaborate discussions of the
matters which he treats in his Inat paper. If
I have been " inaccnrate " and *' positive ^* in re-
presenting their viewa» no one will re^rret these
taults mope than myself; bat 1 refrain from entering
on ttb«m again, as bearing: oulv very remotely on
the question before us, and leading to an intermin-
able controrersy on old French dialects, I simply
beg to remark in reference to Waco*s works aa
specimens of Xorman French, that the best judges
are of opinion that they very inadequately repre-
sent that dialect/ Fallot says (p. 46(ij of the
Horn flit Jr^ limif ^' Le dialecte de Normandie y
' ' en bien des parties j 11 y a de longs
fi ^ ; u il n'en reste que fort peu de tiacas,'*
and ho states his opinion that " la copie n'est pas
andenne: on ne voit plus la correcticai et la
rigide obeervatiou dea regies qui caract^risent les
bona manuacrits/- Indeed, if Wace's writings
are compared with genuine Anglo-Norman texta,
sneh as Chnrkmaf/n*?^ The Conqucd of Ireland, and
Th^ JUft of Edwwd the Confeami-f it will be seen
• Tho*t who dej»iru to know what th« oliarActonstici of
Aoglo-Ncrman were may be refiTrod to a paper by the
l^r.>...nr t, i^ef Jn the Tranmcliong of tht Phitofotfkal
^-9» ''The Norman Elcmenr in the S[»okeJi
I Enfflish of tlie TwL^ftb, Thirteenth » and
FounefiutU Centuries, and in our Provincinl niiUectd
(with nn KxriniiuiitioQ of Cbaiioer*s ug« of the final e.)
Piit.l. PxuuuiicialionYPp.3o^-44d,., (,.i,|ji , j ,i,v ,
at once that Waoe it ng Anglo-Normin wnftn ia
the proper sense of the term, Amp^^ii ofuioQ
to the contrary is of no value.
I remark, with some surprise, Uia£ Mb. CfiJUiCB
se^oaa to consider that the Scottish sani fat «t,
maut for inaltf Sic*. conhrm hia bypotbeoia* Th^
apoear to ma to confute it.
Mil Chancb will probably pronouuo^ worn cffifv
because I decline to so through bis cspaes ii
detidit and defend, aa 1 best could^ my *'ini^
curacies/' I am well content, however, to pri
him the ben eBt of -Ijmk
him to render it coi, , rnp-:-
sitions at the dose uT my la^t P^p^^
300.) -
Kiidare Gardens,
MAERIAGES OF E> '
(i^'^a vii, m ',397.)
If one of the most famous belles an3 Rfoota*
plished women of the fourteenth eentttjy — the
who was pronounced in Committee of the wkdt
House of Court ladies to be *^ la mieax damtatill
mieux chantant'' — could read the lial ol JciTI
NEPOSy her train of rayed bandekyu woal4 00^^
on end in indigoation at the preaumplioia that H
could be complete without her. He wIM ftlkMr
me to present him to the Lady F! f I«b-
caster, second sister of Henry r\ ;t<nr«4
her hand in succeaaion on three iiriu^h &ubjert&.
She married (1 ) in 1379-80, John HMtisjEi^ of
his iiuu third and last Karl of P«mbrolie^ to
whom she was divorced ; {2) about 1^1^ Jtffai
do Holand, Earl of Huntingdo ' » ;
Exeter^ beheaded Jan. 7, 1^1^:
Jiihn Uomwall, Lord Fanhopo, i.tixoueai mw
Nov. 24, 1425, Her Urst and third f—pty
were issueless, but by the second sho vvthi
lie
mother of three sons and two daughten^
Registers of John of Gaunt, her fa*"»
mimerous items of provision for the -'
dignity of '^iire file do Penbrok T
brother, Kiu-^ >ed in a cbaractoiiitt
manner his an as bis favaurile
by a grant datt^d l)ec. io, 1400, bestowing
her an exquisite collection of the sr tt^dt
deceased and attainted husbaiv' >i
Exeter : to wit, one old bed of h
old celet and tester of *ilk, 8
carpets, eleven towels, and '* m
et tracta,'* an old nowter basin, ani sundry -^U*^
valuables of the like character. Any tarn ^h
wiflhea to peruse Li \ v -- - *-
to his eister will
Part 1. I ought u* ^uin i
things better worth having
There are two nt^i v ,.rf,
appearance on the '
consideration.. iLu,, — ^
#»S,VlI.JinBl7,'71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
521
mar' ' ' de Bretaj^e, Duke of Breta^e and
CN? ! i IX, vrho had been Earl of Ridimond,
aod uii^uL":n he liad resigned bis earldom before
marriftgo/he nevertheleas continued a Biitiabsub-
H^ect, and received a ser- "* --" * <- ♦!- irMom
B iS96. A^n, Marv, fll.^in
manying her conain \\'i;..*^t.. j i.u ^ ...Lcester,
mxrely married a Britiib subjtct, though a prince.
Giindreda, married to Willkm de Warrenne^
Earl 0(f Surrey, (rota which union la descended
tho house of Howard, m included by some his-
torinne^ and jj^enealogistii amongst the daughters of
William the Conqueror* A* S.
OVia "METAAL" XIIL 2M : ** BENIGNIOB/'
Planudea translates the passage : —
kpaS^tfi<fs 6 Atas SoKtir<»t,
13ftSs8onad0 says in a note i — *
>T^rli^rt * fHi'rit<|oe Iw-nigtiior Ajox/ Vftlde aont ob-
iMi hjr oiil : — ipse AjAx vobi*, ai AtmtL
'jrjl w»e btinigraior, noc oa mihi reciiAaro :
ill vht in ea juris."
tslates :
*-*Sfli1agt deis VVaibii tuir ab, und etsei det verdientere
lUait.'*
Tlie obscurity of the p^issage is shown by the
Molcet efiv^rts to mend it. Muretus proposes
^ferat ha?c ut dignior Ajajc," and Koeppeniua
mbititates Hector tor Ajai. I agree with JMr*
King that there b ** ei nianifest sneer in the words,"
and I orftfr a very moderate alteration —
** Armtt negate mihi : fieretnt benigiiior Ajar ? "
I quote from IjemiUfe's edition, tomes iv. and r,
Tms^ 182% a B* C.
' r. u. Club.
.
(*qtt09 pretium pro uocte poposccrat b65tiB,
I ftHirote mihi, fueritfjue benignior Ajax/*
Mii. Kmc dvsx'vyea great praise for his 8oIidtud«
- ., , iM -v in this paseage^ aa well as in
; Is veraion of the Mdamor phases^
.. - _ Ly in requesting the judgment of
I a point on which he is m well able to
•: himself. In my opinion he has given a
y satisfactory sense of the word hejiigtnor m
tnin.«?lation. It rfgnifiesi, I consider, ** better
better satined, more kindly disposed to-
ju/' Fiitrit ia taleen by the Delphin
itor and (Others in an imperatiVe seusei as in
patntio plebi sua r€stitnero;
iuni ujciaci nequitur, jurt* fae-
<^. — 1--1 Miv iv-iuration of Ihdr rights to the
peopla hare been an ilv^ i
which CATtnot be avcnp
dtizBDa have b«en done v
citcntv; let that
: iig tlie blood of
The sense of Ovid-fl words will then bo, ** and
let Ajax (by this means — when this is done —
when the a/m« have been given him) have been,
or have become, better contented '* ; or they may
be turned optatively, ^'may Ajax have thus been
(rendered) more favourably disposed." But it
may b© considered whether ftierii may not be
taken aa a future, **and (perhaps) Ajax will by
this means have become better inclined towards
yon/' that ia, *' will be in b«*tter temper with you."
There is no doubt, as Mb. Kryc observes, a sneer
or sarcasm in the words of Ulysses : *' Refuse me
the arms of bim whose horaea the enemy had
demanded n« his reward, and then, noflsibly* A lax
will feel more friendly towards you ! ** Tho Delphin
editor, who is at all times a weak stall* to lean ojij
goes away from the sense with hia dt melius de
xn*hi4 m*fritm; but he was fully sensible of the
irony. In taking henitjtiior in the sense which I
have suggested, and in which indeed Me. Krjfa
had already taken it, no violence is done to the
word, but 'it is kept to itj? ordinary si^idcation,
"Ivind,** such as it hoa in Hor. Sat^ i, 2, 4, to
which Mb. Kutg refere. J. S. W,
According to the old Homeric account of the
coQte^ between Ajax and Ulysses for the arms of
Af;hiUes, Ulysses obtained them by the fraud
practised by th« Atreidse. See Sophocles' Ajajc^
1135, and Rndar's Nmnean^ viii* 2g412, who says :
**By ^oret ballots the Danai piud court lo Ulyaaes ;
and io Ajax« deprived of the golden armoort giappted
mth sla u Lf I i [ « 1 . Y. t A . ry d i fferen t %v i.= i o th i ^ iv ounds they
clave tt r warm fit ' ': lA'
tb« mai . partly in ! tHes
whoD iU'*i 1.^ n, 41111. aij-j Hi other hard ^Liuj,i,M.3 kiu <acath*
deoling^ days."
Now the object of Ovid was to remove the
coai'se device of fraud, and, without denving that
Ajax was ntronger and braver than Ulysfies, to
prove by argument that Ulysses waa the more
meritorione. We must, therefore, understand the
ingenious argument pot by Ovid into the mouth
of Ulysses.
If the steeds of the Troians* ally, Rhesus, had
not been captured by the Greeks ** before they had
tasted the fodder of Troy, or drank of the "river
Xanthiis" (--iViciVf, L 4bl)-73), or (Euripides'
RJiemj^, 408-50t>) if the Greeks did not obtain the
Palladium, or statue of Pallas, which the Trojans
possessed^ Ilium would have been surrounded by
a charm which all the prowess and valour of Ajax
and AehlUes could not break through. Ulysses
planned and performed the captund of the horses
(see. the Iihe$u^) by learning the watch- word of
Ehesus' men ; and, disguised as a beggar, he made
his wav into Ilium and stole the Palladium. This
522
N6¥i^ Mt) QUERIES-
[4*kS,VlLacantir»9l,
latter exploit waa the flubject of tU© old «pic called
'* The Vngrnnt;' \ _
Conaequently the nr^meDtuf Ulysa^U: Ajax^
ftlthough stronger and braver than I, hna neyer
remoTtfd any diiiicvilty without the remoTiti of
which Ilium could not be captmed ; 1 have re-
moved two ; in the face of theee facts, will you
e*teeDl Ajax Aea^ioi*, " ft jifreater bejaefactor,'*
than I P TfiDOj^. L'EexBA^iaB*
Scx-DiAL Inscriptions (4**' S, vii. 256, 377.)—
The followiDg inscription U eajrraved on a dial
prmecting from the ciU of the library window at
Arlej Ilall, Ch^sbir^ ;—
^ >*• Jklfiy the dread bonk At our 1 ist trinl,
T\'h«;'n ODCMi .sim'fltl, l>e like thb dial ;
'I I i i^i^ir to mark lUtretii
1 I nrk by ilecikof ftin ;
I'uu-^ 4>;kiy in tii;it record write
Which \iriu<^ tik€ the «tm maiked blight.'*
AyOTTt
'* Vado Q i^cnpo o^fni gbrho ;
Sla tu andmi scnzA ritomo.*'
By somt^ accident the letters r. and r/ in tho third
word are troDjepo^d* It ahould have bt^en pnnted
It may be a bold thing for an Englishman to
find fuuU with fin inscription in Italian, set tjp in
aa Italian city, but has wot the little word ne here
b<*en ouiitt43d^ which would haye given the second
line thvu —
« Ma^ tu n* andrai ac&%« litorno,"
I, k —
** I ^ away and comG Agtin every thiy,
Bui tJiuu (Llie leadur) ahult go awu^ and pever re-
turn/*
The other inscription —
"Pareuat et imfjuuntur,"
appears, amongst other placi^ undar the Inner
Temple clock, under that in All Souls College,
Oxford* and (I think) of the Cathedral at Exe-
ter. It ia ao truly reli^ioud and Christian —
u Ik " Though hours slip by U3 idly and unprofit-
ably, but are carefully written np ajGffiinst ua *'—
that upon on CO asking an exceEent scholar where
he thought it waa to be found, he replied without
hesitation that he supposed in Lac tan tins ! It is,
however (who would think it ?), in Martial—
**Ad Julium Martialein^
*'Nu5i " ■[ ijcuter hou, bouosque
St* J ■ At rjuy ahita aen tit j
Qui . - ^ -ni, et imputantur."
MartialU Ep'tg, V» 21, IL
But this ia not the only extraordinary passage in
Martial'a writiuga, who, although he can be nut
unfre<ju©nt]y naughty and dirty, has in the fol-
lowing liuefl to the memory of Alcimui?, his youth-
ful slave, m completely expressed in their fullest
extent all the tendenieaa and delicacy of the
Grecian mnscj, that I am siune the Editot
be disposed to forgive me far calling nttec^ i
them, by causing them to be je^riated ia ^
pagea:—
^*Ad AlcimaWL,
'*' Alcirne, qoem mptum domtno cresceatibii* ai8ti»,
I^hicaiui levi cc«pitc velat hmnus,
Acclpe noQ Phario nutaiitia poodera s&xo*
Qu;»^ !>T. ri vmniLS dat niittir • 1 ii.^n*
Sed f I , ct opaea*^ nhri
Maud fliuer ciacrps mondo jaccm inca«- '
am much obliged to IIer^iextri
kind correction of the eorror — \t^*„..,
course, the abbey meant I am under
pi'^sfioii that there was a Sir Christopher
Knt, in the eevent^ientU century* Prol
have eeen it in some old LancjLslnte char
latLug to Cookersand Abbey
friend, whose ancobtors, it f
of Bome of its land at H
however, be glad of a
mystery — the marriage "Ifi!
rietta Maria ..... CL
et h. of Tarbock ** — as appuiia in lU
of riayton parish ehurcL I mav !>
from 1617 to 1043 the veil urn \^ ^
cut (evidently ages sinco) from n
about the same period the tr-
ap pear very much oblit^rj^te*!
damp or vermin. It may be .j^
story of generations hangs to t;^
the loss of a manor in the ntig;^.^^.
which adds considerable ioteieat to t
question — romantic and flnnniinrinn
I should also lee I e\
correspondent who coulo
f*age and date of a hook written, I
aat or begiuain^of this century by a. >
on *^ Carpentr)'. I believe auch ft
catalogu^ for Mle within this last quarter
T. Hi
BidMAKCK AiNrinr.VIED : '
OWN Geavy " (4*'^ S» vii. It
correspondent J. A C. f"
conjecture that thiu m}
will be found in *' the ]
If he will turn to PlaiiT
ho will find in tIi.^ tV^r
lamenting to i
class of men v. .:._...
the country, and parasites hnve no tlioseri
comparing them to snails abut up iu 1
&c. lie flftvs :—
-er. J
^mm
4* s. rn; Joirt ir,»7U]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
1 iUlii>, J1IJ.>L-J| I "■ r^ii-:*,
l>um ruri lurant h liiiurriant/*
A ! > to 81, efJ» Teubrn'r.
As P]n«t«9 is the nioffit nnciont Latin aiith'T
extftot, liftvmg lived above 2000 years ago^ anless
the idea be found <vlao in 8f>me more ancient
Greek nnthor or in th^ Old Tti^tAnient, wc may,
I presume^ fym^dder liiin the aource from which it
ongiimted ; at least a«i the firpt nutiior in wJiom
the idea ia found, thoufrh he may have takeu it
from the Greek ilnaxandridei^.
It dt>e« not necessarily follow that an idea
found in a succession of authors hos been adopted
|v •' ^ -pr from the earlier; nnd thia one may
]i aa orijCiiial with Biamarck as with the
Wi be well to record in '* N. & Q/' on
wKrit he great statesman employed it f*
KK'UASD li.lRKIKeXOK.
i<if4*»« S. viL 141, 571,415.)
'] u of the Babylon (?) rhyitje^
f,; 10 i\ fill's play, wns jiicked np many
^r in Chorlt<?n-npDn-MeaInck, Manehea-
t*3( - —
**Qn*'ryi, * TJcfflr many milea to Buralcra ? "
*'.^«», ♦TlM-..-. ...v.in'ir/ f, n;
*'Qijtri/, ' ' ' candlelight ? '
^•OfM A3 \\i>\t' iiH you can*
At ^ limles and hh familj through.**
See al?<. xwiiuwreira Kurseri/ Rhjn^es^ No. 328,
Hulliwell also includes a ft^uixa of the "Green
Gmvel '* song or noniiny amou^ his relics {ISo,
66l>, but the follow'inp^ Gorton version, liS played
by the flchool-girla thirty-five years ago, is the
ttott complt?te we have seen : —
•nrvH-n r-m\'d, gtcen gniT«l, the praM ia «o gr«cn,
' you»(cd«mi«i that ever was seen.
') M«iry your true love is tli*o<l I
* I (urn round your head.*
, ilf> vou til ink* tt ia trac ? *
. , 1 1 lit ahftll [ do I
l')| W;tH^ you iu uulk, and dress rnn in ^Ik,
An' write down your njuao with a gdd pen and i&k/ "
, u«|r Oldhnm.
*' The Wdtd has a LAyGFA^E,'- ktc. (4*'* S.
-H. '''5, 46-? )"This poem is to he found in
' (18:10, p. 128.0), Prom the
Jy of the manner I should
jim^^iini it Wius \\ riLt*iO by L. E. L. or some clever
imitator of that p^rteM (in ppite of all the stron^-
nj" * ' ' T liold to this tisefol word).
11 1 '^ Iniprovisatrice/^ J, L,
im.H^vioies iiio innd line* Fie should delete the
*f And'* Wa LTKB TfiORNBUBT.
^jpoylting, ^_____«
* Or whatever the girri» naiu« wa& i
I CooKEs : Cookeset: Cooke (4'*S. vTk 11, 310,)
I r fim fifraid the book to which Sv. haa referred your
i ci>rrts|n>Tn!fiit will AtTordi him but little informa-
tinn, I" Mrt p. 17 iliat Thomas Arcber
*'inarrii IniTo-hter of Sir Walter C'odUof
Cokesey, ui '- nt' Woroeeter^ and fzrand-'
daughter of i {^e^y " ; but Coke should
be Cokesey. i i^*-'n^ aro numerous errors • of a like
description in the book: ♦*Ha^tieM, co- Herta,*'
shonM be ''Ha/fleM, co, Hereford " ; '* Banctoa.**:
should be ^' Bt arcroft/' *tc-
Your correa pond en t will fir'' " ^'^refuHy com-
piled pedigree of Cookeey < ' iu a* recent
number of Uie Iltn^ald mid ?''; but I
feel sure thnt any attempt :he Cookes
family upon that stock will l _ i failure,
i H.JS,G.
Anothek Olji Jkstvins (4''' S. vii. 320,) — I
have waited to tee whether some one with more
inform atloo than I have would gay eomething
about John Jenkins of Coddin^ton. I write now
to assure A, O. that no ** honx has been played off
upon the WorveUer Jaurtinl ^'* and in the hope that
further details may be seut to *^ N, & Q," by pome
one elae. It is believed in the neighbriurhni>d
that John Jenkina did reacli the a^e specified,
lie had been well known aj* approaching the age,
and had attracted attention by his protracted life.
A dauL'hter of his is living, and is said to be
eighty -tive. But the following statement, if it
can be confirmed, will go very far to settle the
question of Jenlcins'^a age. In or about 1770 a new
bell waa hung ia the tower of Colwall chinch, a
place adjoining to Coddiugton, both being on the
Ilerefurdshire side of the Malvern Hills. Jenkin.^
constantly affinned that he was put into this bell
at the time of it& being hung in the tower» Modem
bells are usually dati-d, la any bell in ColwaJl
dftted about 1770? I hope the subject will not be
allowed to drop without farther Inquiry* D. P,
Stuartj Lodgv, Malvoni W^elK
FflAifcis: Junius AJTP the Skaxs (4**' S. vO.
452.) — F. M., who ia looking into the curious
question of the seals used by Juniiu*, may bo glad
to be referred to a passage in which that writer
speaka of the care which an anonymous writer
would observe with respect to the seale he used.
It is in the PrmiU Letters to Woodfalt, No. 10
(Bohn'a editioui il. -- * " —
" 1 shall he glad t*' ket you speaker It
cannot come from tln' L jet, thVmj^h th«re he no
end of them. 7%eu would uot be bo Billy as to pat their
arms on the cover.
F,J,
I
I
• It is atatcd on p. 10 that in Coajrhton churolt lak 1
«ght sliicdda of llirockmorton " oil th*'ir rich monqr ]
meat," io all of whir^h arw quartcired th« inn» of Archen]
Thja is- aa error* The three arrows in these Bhte|d4 aif J
the arras of ^<>«njri. ' *
524
NbtES Airb QtTERlES u^ s, vii. jc« n, -n.
OwGiw OP THB Sttrname Ouhvikobak (4*" S.
ui., iv., pamm; vii. 221, 347.) — I am mnch
obliged by Espedabe's correction of my reading
in uie extract from Dundonald Kirk-Session re-
cords. Not having made up my mind as to which
is the correct theory of the origin of this name, I
had no intention of reopening a discussion 'already
sufficiently protracted, much less did I mean to
make the extraordinary suppositions so clearly
shown by Espedark to be untenable. I wished
merely to give what seemed to me a new fact,
viz., tne occurrence of the word conyngam, where
it could only signify " a place where rabbits
abound.'* Perhaps I was a little too credulous in
believing I had round a new word ; for on again
referring to the MS., with the additional light
afforded by Kspedaee, it appears I should have
quoted " in corsbies coivjufjan '' — either that or
conyngair. As however the' former of these words
is unknown hitherto, it is more likely that Espe-
DARE is right, and that I should have written
conyiigair. As to the earlier fonus of the name,
to which Esi'EDARK kindly directs me, although I
admit that he is here on the right track, I need
scarcely point out how little satisfaction can be
derived from such different forms as Canonan and
Inciinenintfumj given by writers so nearly contem-
porary as Taliesiu and Bede. Does Espebare
Know that the chapel of Corsbie was used for
divine service long after the Iteformatioii ?
W. F. (2).
" The Thunderer " (4**' S. vii. 45G. ) — In one
of the leading articles of Thi' TimeSj the writer
said, *' We thundered out," i^'c, referring to a
former article. Hence the appellation of *' The
Thunderer " was applied to the paper. Tho writer
of the article may have been Oapt. Sterling ; of
that I know nothing, nor can I recollect its sub-
ject D.
HOGAN (4*»» S. vii. 4,^0, 481.) — Bailey says
hogan^mogan is a corruption of hough 'mngedige^
high and" mighty, Bvlg. Supposing? tli»' word to
have the double senile of (iUhSj \ve should get the
" deep drinking,*' an every-day expression. There
is an old Greek word, ^Ciyhv = 'aiceavoy, which, but
for the mrft in&teiul of tlie rough breathing, might
suggest a derivation. Could the first use of the
word, however, be traced to Warwickshire, this
difficulty might bo surmounted. Every one has
hoard of " drinking the sea dry."
KDMuyn Tew, M.A.
HEV. Iv. C. MVTFRIN' OF " l^AP.KEL-ORGAX
Fame" (4»»» S. vii. 4r).|.) — The alhision of The
Athenamn, in speaking of this gentleman as of ;
** barrel-organ fame," is to a stanza in some
sportive verses of Dr. Maginn on liord Byron's
JDofiJuan ; they are entitled '* Dow Jtran Unread,*'
and are a parody on Wordsworth's »' Yarrow Un-
visitqd " : —
** XjBt Colbiim*8 toma-hred cattle annff
The sweets of Lady Mefgaa ;
liBt Motarin to amorou themes
Attane his barrel-oigan ;
We will not hear them, will not read
The parson or the granny;
And, I dare say, as bad as they,
Or worse, is Don Giovanni.**
The whole piece may be seen in Murray's seva-
teen-volume edition of Byron, toL xy. p. 89.
J.S.W.
Mm. Mart CHTmcimL (4^ S. vii. 234, 417.)
I have received from a learned friend a confinift-
tion of the reply given by vour cnrretpoodeit
Melcombe respecting this lacty. She wu the
daughter of Mrs. I^Iargaret Allen, whose nHrnn-
mentat Glan%'ille's Wootton is surmounted bytfct
following coats of arms: '*A chevron between
three leopards' heads erased, impaling in abordofe
six lioncels rampant 3, 3, and 1/' which may pro-
bably lead to the discovery of who she was.
Mrs. Mary Churchill made her will in 1G75,
wherein she desires to bo buried near her late
husband John Churchill, if her son-in-law, Sr
Winston Churchill, will give permission: but if
not, then near her mother, Mrs. Margaret AUen.
She was, therefore, undoubtedly the second wife
of John Churchill, grandfather of the great Duk>
of Marlborough.
My friend adds— and I know of nobody mow
experienced in such matters — that the pcKiigree^
of the duke are the most mendacious he has ere:
met with, being all apparently taken from coe
drawn up for himself by tho heralds.
Any light timt can be thrown upon the «mbject
by your useful pages would be very acceptable
fur tlie next part of the new edition of f lutcfain*.
C. W. BiyGH-vM.
John Dtek (4'»» S. vii. 232, m^, 443.)-Jati)EF,
surely dt)es not suppose that I\ver. a learned
clergyman, was ijjnorant of the English lancniai.'e
and its grammatical construction! Had ''lies"
been used it must have rhymed with *' eyes,'' and
the poet would have found a sibilant termioation
to each line. To avoid this his nymph has 'mt
eyey and we have a very excusable bit of bad
grammar. Jay dee is acquainted with fcjliake-
speare. Has he ever examined the first verse of
" Hark, the lark " P or if he patronises Pope, ^^
is his opinion of the grammar in the verse **Thott
Great First-cause," &c. ? Any ornithologist cvi
inform Jayi)i:e that there are ditferent sorts of
IhincU, .'Vmongst them is tho green linnet,* irfuA
probablv is wliat Dver meant, or ho might m«n
the bird known as tKe ^'yellow yo wring." whid,I
believe, is one of the linnet tribe. If Dver b»
erred in his ornithology, which I do not aomxt, o;
if ho has committed a grammatical error, wluflbl
* I think that Ebenezer Elliot hav a ^re«ti Ihmet
4^aVIUJujrKl7,11.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
5i5
do admit, X aasert that such UemUhea do not de-
tract from his merit* ae a poet. What does Jat-
Bias thinlt of the " there let him hi/ " of Byron ?
StWtten Jackson.
BjlXPIXBS (4**> S, TU. 405.) — ^The embroiderj
iEtBftCton ia mentioned in ** N. & Q.,*' Dec, 19,
1868, p. 579. This is douhtleaa what J^our corre-
0|>oiident alludes to. 'W.MjlksK.
7, Bal Lm\ i^qoiiire.
OoRsK {4»* S. vii. 3:23, 370, 407.)— The eve of
3klay Day was forraerlj known m ** Mischief
Ki|f ht " tlirouj^hout South Lancashire, and prior
the epf>eb of thf) ** new policotnB«»" many were
ilMU3i ' -, rude practical jokes, imd mor-
^ 1^ i1 13 conaniitted. But there was
■Ib' cu^Loni, certainly in aomo fespect^
loi I , but liable to be cuuie ©qually aa
ioying> i hid was the iiej>ositiT]fr on the thres-
bold^ or affirming" to the door-handle, sprip:^ or
lirancheB of certiiin .shrubs and tr^'es, m eiuble-
laatical of the traits of character of some damsela
lli^^o t...u;.i;vM. \o t>.i.r]jt be *?xp^'cte^^, « "i '^ *m
iM^i women wouh t
ioaih . :^-« - . .liing fnces in *' - -^ . /'
ind 6o beautify themselvw for tAvelve mcjotbs to
borne, but ako to ascertain what compliment.^
Ihear suitors had paid them. Bat alad, it often
happened that some Diischievous lad or rival fe-
BMB had *' laid tK^methiog at their door ^' not
it to moTali«e upon. The popular rending'
tkede Ternal avmbola bore no relationtihi|i to
ly fancied resemblance between them and tlie
inal characteristics cd' th& persona honoui-ed,
it wBfe formed out of an attempt to rhyme . The
r are the chief: —
of quicken (or wicken) = my dear (or
rreet; chidcen.
•Sprig of oak = fond of a j oke.
,, owler (i*. e. alder) ^ a acowler (scolder),
a^h ^ a swearer i*ash.
ntit (hazel) ^ a slut
thorn = teom.
brfimblp == lik^M to ramble*
:-i;
-01— in Uiil l.iu
'OltUiAm.
^ a w — at noon.
Joint HiGsoK.
I BocTRixE OF Celticism f4*^ S. rii. 340.)^ —
• correspondent BrLBO says, " the doctrine of
tticism aeems to me a species of popular deln-
- '* Tu Scotland we hold Celticism to be n
. It ia established by a variety of proofs
1 not be entered into here. Nay, more,
s reason tn. think that there ia a much
?atpr amount of Celtic blood among English*
I U commonly aunposed. But my chief
re is to refer to the popular notion that
r blond race, in the British Isles, denotes
Litonic anccfetry, and that the dark races
I <1» some 1500 years B.C., by
Caucasian races — the Celts
iir-skitmed and Ught-halred,
are the Celts, Thia ia not aupported by ethnolo-
gical authorities.
Nott and Oliddon, in T^Pff of ManJdnd^ after
an analyfiiH of the works of Thierry and Edwards,
conclude that —
''An- - " ' ' ..
at lea- I
and thi i
and the other a Usirk i
Bodichoni in his £(ud^s sirr TAJgh'ie^ plaeea the
Celts (whom he divides into Gaelic, Bel^c» and
Cymbric) in his great division entitled '' The Blond
Bace." Professor Huxley, in hi^ lecture at St.
George's Hall (March, 1870), coincides with the
above statementSj and emplmtically says —
"Tn!T stature, fair ha!r,and bluc^ye'', in a native ofBri-
t.ii I \idence of hU dwcent n thepri-
n [>eflking, than from th* Tcutoni« -
K|ji ^ juent of oar population. .. ,..- . verse. Bu-
U as likeiy to be a Gek a^ a Teuton; a Teuton as n
Celt."— licport in PaU Mall Gtizetic
Whenoc, then* the dark races in'tbo Britiah
Lilies ? Therei as in other parts of the West of
Europe, they are descendants of the Iberiana, who
seem to hare been spread over Europj before the
arrival of the Celts- Alfred Maury, late librarian
to the French Inatitutet says : —
♦* These Iberiana^a nation lively n.nd tnapre«9ionab\t'.
vain and stirrinir — ^may wi'll have infustd into the Eehic
bjood that cl' - - * * n j^tleMCt^d and kvUy which one
perceivca in : but which U alien, on the con-
trary, to the 1
Professor Huxley adopts the same view as to
onr dark races, that they are of Iberian descent ;
referring, aa fiuthorities, to Thurnam and Be
Belloguet,
I must add, for the information of Bilbo and
your English readers, that in Scotland, without
adhering- to them slavishly, we lortk upon George
Chalmers, I Jr. Daniel Wilaou, and Dr. John Stoart
as gentlemen who have done g(x>d aervico in Bcot-
tiflh history and nnti(]uities, and whose vieWa on
these subjects are eutitled to rvapectful con^idera-
tioo. n. E,
Dtinbar.
" TirTRTY DATS TlkTE SlPTEMinni " f4** 8. Til.
S8G, 464.) — Your correspondent J- P,, who refef^
for an early example of these '* memorial linea '*
to my edition of Chaucer's Trcaim oti fhe Aiiro-
iabe^ and who seems* to regret that the extract
from Stevtns'6 M9. should have been eontined U*
the one line quoted, may be pleased tu have a
transcript of all four lines, as follows : —
** Thirtic dales hath Sefytetnbtr,
Apriil, June, and Novembor ;
Fcbruarie t wen tie and eight alone,
And all the rest have thi r tie and one/'
This example is certainly not later in data than
1555, and may be a Tear or two earlier.
A. E. Bra&
Leeds.
526
NOTES AND QtJEHIEa
St, VALETn-iNE (4«» S. v\. 670; tu. 132.)—
•* Ut maiieiii vi scroti vixU ut mciriturui^/'
reminds me of the following distioh^ which mj
masfter wtote ih my Stftnutthu^h when 1 left school
•* I Ui wenti du stirbat
P. A.L.
Hart Qfeek of Scots' hiPRisoKatExts (4*'* S,
111. 451*) — Does Dr, Gattv mettu that Mary Stuart
was never in cliarge of Elizabeth Slirewbbury at
Hardsvicke IJjUJ ; and that the chamber, bed» and
arraa shovvu there are all a myth aa fkr as Mario
Stuart jj concern e J 1" W. D,
<*CaMES TO Gkief" (4^^ iis. vii. 420.— I fancy
that it is quite withia my owa memoiT that thict
slang phrase has obtained currency. 1 have al-
ways rejrarded it as an adaptation of thoBe most
solemn word« id laaiah liii. 10, '* He hath put him
to grief *^ and haro eschewed and repro Dated it
accordinii^ly.
It 13 certainly not twenty years &go, that I
rememher a friend of mine — and by no means a
atrait-laced oae — who exprt^^ed to me hia horror
at hearing^ it at a bishop'^s table from the lips of
one of his dati^htere. C. W. B,
PUBJTAN CttAJSGEB OP NlMES (4^^ S. Vll. 430,)
Were my m»^mory botter» I am «ure I could give
other quotalions- The following is from the first
act of Jonson*3 BaHholomew Fair :—
'* Jtfhn, He wtt? a bakex, ftifi buLt he does dream now,
and Ace vi^oos ; he has ^iveu ov6r hu irHde^
Qnat* . . . his riirUten-naine is ZcJil-cif-tho-land.
i/<>/iiw Yea, wj, Zeal-4)f-thc4arjil Dusy.
W»f»r* How ! wb^ta n/ime'jj tlus ? '
Jtfhn, Ob, they have all tmcli oimics* airt ho was wi(-
iieaa for Win hi?ro (tbcy will not be called god-fatbew),
and aaniett hor Wm-thc'li^tit ; you Uiought her nam^
had be«ji Winnifred, did you not ?
WinM^. I did ind«Ned.
Jb/iit. He woidd ha' thought hlmaelf a atark reprobate
if it had."
Some years agt> the nam© of an omnibus pro-
prietor in Sheffield was pointed out to meaa bcJing
the contracted umfi cation of one of theae Puritan
names, hut what the contraction Ib^ or what the
oiiginal name was, I now forget. B. N.
"DauM": AN EvKNUio Party (d^** S. vii. 453.)
I pmume the origin of the term ^ drum/' as
applied to an even in {j party, ifl merely from the
drcamstanco of the company being aBsembled or
dntmfned together, as soldiers are by the military
mstroment of muHio in queation* In reference,
however, to this particular application of the word
** drum," the following t|uotation from Fieldinf;*a
Tom Jtme* may not l>9 without interest. It seems
to show that at the penod when that work was
first published (1740) the phrase was of recent
inb-oauction in England, and not much known
beyond the bounds of London: —
"That lady [Soiibia Western ] wa* most unliniflT
dine ihU very day with h«r auDt We«ti?rn, «ad iu I
iifbemoof) tbey wera all throai, by anpnintuniM, m
together to the operas and IbeQc^'
Hatchet's drum- . . . Haviui? ri
moiitionod a Siruifii,' — .1 t^v ri ivlJi h
hoped, will nor
m^at todeacri^ie iiit- fnii-ruiiuintnir, ajiri :&►• r.u.fe-.'?, -■
can ia a moausal «le»cnl>e ii.
•* A ilnini, tlivu. i^ au .a>-rcmLlv of WirlUanj:-^^ ! u
ofl
do ^
foTTm till.' ['urt <u iiif itiiMiiMv
londhidy of an inn, priilt^i her^-
gUi*t«/ though sh« doth not uj
thhix by it.
*' Nu woadeor, theo. a« so tnaoh spiriLa ttiiur^
to ^ny ■■-'-*-"'—:'■--;'-''■■•'■ • ---- • ■' '^-
hea 1
of III
to II i.iat thb time: !
xvii, Kiv.,^, ,,,
We have improved aomewbat, 1 do.
the days of Fielding, but
DOW iind some points of refer .1
fashiouable entertainments mi u ^
and those of our ancestors as des l.^I^l^^
thinly the term ketttedttitn is now the *<u
vogue ihfandrttm^ but Fielding's afitidpau
scarcely been realised.
Compare Dutch drmn^ *' crowd'*;
verzamek^i^ ** to crowd together/' *
part}', a rout,
NujiiSMAtic (4^ S. vli. -
notes on the numismatics of
of 1870-71 may be worth iiiotx
to the conxmuxiication of F. A* ^
puhlioue/'
A nronze ten-centim«8 pi6C4»
been struck, bearing — *1
flags and rigging : *' Iv
verse, **1870" in the ceiuiv,
*< Gouvemement de la Defenae N
Also, in the IlktMnd^d I^utttinn
March 11, 1871, is engraved
commemorating the nj?-*''*""
tional Aseemblv at B
are the arms of the cii,, . .
crown, and aurrovmded by a
oak. Above ia the inacripti
tionale a Bordeaux, 12 f^vrier 1cj71/*
the following words in four lines ; ** £le
8 fi'vrier 1871."
I have not yet been aucces«fi^ In obtiumitf li
originals of these jneces, and therefore I no*
guarantee the entire aocnracy of ^e al»f» k
scrlptions, llKy»r \y» Ej^Flll
15, Eaton riace, Brighton.
Waltole's NAFL-Biirfeii f4** S. m Itt
take it that Mfijor Dales* meaning, i!tl
aaall iriiiai
4*fc S. TIL Jc3f« IT^^IlO
NOTES AND QUERIES.
62T
EgurivtiTely expressed^ was that Walpole hod not
kept hU Imndft clonn in office, wKicii iiftdoubtodiy
lio hftd not. It wtts, 8t the time whi?n Watpole
wfwi expelled, a very rare thin^ for a man m office
to do so,
1 hftTO not tt t n Major Dale/ ivorle. and do
not know ;ie Diiuje are, or
wheihereitl imed; but . ios wrote
ID 1800, and I have very conwderable doubts
wBetlier nail-brushes were in u«e in 1712. I
think that was the date of the t-xpubion, not
1710. James Ejs'owles,
45-1 i_T f\r..A- tiiat K P, 1). E. in mistalcen in
ptr lOg he quotes to have been part of
a u:. „ .^ ._. 1 remember a similar Terse in
"vogiie^ aa he says, at the be^dniiin;.' of the present
century* But it wtxs merely a bi^j>rlo Torae which
used to be tacked on, rather profane! y^ to the
natioTinl antbeni, " God e^ave the Kin^,'' and
pv L4 for hU jnajeiity^ which I alwiiys
iiL |tartieularia&d : —
••^ad him roast bo>ef in »tof9 j
Wiicn tJb&Vi pone «jid liim motv,
And IIm! key of the cdUr <loor«
(jod have the kin^/'
, I F. an,
SsMRwoRT (A'^ S. viL 25, 161, ?44, 832, 468.)
TW plant I mentioned as bearing this natn^ is
^PTtafely not the Carditmine hxrsuin^ nor any other
mint. This plant 1 knew before 1 w»i ftv©
M, "What 1 described is tbo Arahi»^ but I
ti i \t Itiilinfia ; it is what AVitberinircnlk
** d " and ** wall -cresa.-* My authority
f' It fihoerwnrt wns an old but very intel-
h: e of Dorsetshire, who rocop-nised the
^i ' ''' ' ' ■ nty,
-^ nd
^Iri. * 't. ( I i r,.T« El ^ii^n i.n Liiy piiiuc 110%^ m nii>s.soQl
to my garden. F, C, H.
What ra i Bakrow? r4^*» S. vii. 474,) — The
moanliT'* of tttp /.^rr^ir on the corporate iKjal of
^ *^*' 1 is exactlv explaiued in the
«*"^^ from Keanett >18. J.ansd.
^ ' m iliiliivvell** /^V«, .J#W*. HwW* •—
fwicb »nrl DrofhvMi !]in , o,ii. nl bftskHs
^'..rH,n J i .V T^itt thf. »ttlt to 1^ ' m Av>*t» It
m CiUetl luirrotta. A Urnjw ^ i,i pe^lu,"
John PiaooT. Jtrif,
SfOTJKSO^ BOOKS, KTC
■^y t Inn, llurfbtPr-at.I.*w, ^t-.
ono OTf^re amusing or inatnTctiv* than the presrat, in
which he applies LvIv'a wi»ll-known work to the itltidtra-
tion of the Gwat Master. Tbo E^phues vrnn pablifihei'' ^
1j«foro Shakespeare b^jan to writ* for the stacfc; snd.i
it liaa been taiU *'that all t' ' ' ' '' * ^
Lyiy'a gcbolarSf she who 5;
Utile regarded at court a^ ii
it is reasonable to bdieve that L>
without bis inflaonce <vn Shakeape'i t
r- r-^-.— ^' •.- ■'"- >!-- '' i
■^\
:- _ ._. , ,, '-ej
tbc ^mm UuQ^io^e and phru&cd, aiid play upuu the szuoe^
Fi-li.
fry from i?v
ry. Sy 1
mL Oxford. Plur-
rton, D.D.»
r.«trv ill thfl^i
University af Oxford. ^iM a Frefiu:€ bit i^ichard'l
Prirt?, and Notes VariorunK IJ<f'f'if li/ W. Crirewj
Hnzlitt. With nete Notrs
Frederick Madden, KM
W
and I^Lictt, In I'uur Valumes,
J ''^ctry
or others;
Pattnj has
iriouij^
h buft
V\ J. Furoi-
' of Nam
Cllt' \ Co & "turnerO
In much the same spirit in which FalstafF dpeiarcd
hJmscliV ** 1 am not only witty in
that wit is in other mcnV' (he b:^'
mi^ht claim the credit of boini;? u
but the tiieauB of calliiig forth r
for Wiirtoa*a invalaable BhtoTi/
awmredly been the rneanA of dra\i>
iilnstration of the fiubject from otl
for it niijE^ht othenviw aevw hi
world. Ihe iml edition of Wn
appeared at intcrviila bttwecn 17
it was reprinted in 1J^24 under ;
aceomphflhed sch&lnr Mr. I*licharil
work was greatly enhanced by tlic i: ..;
of the illustrations of Joseph Kilson, i»r. .
Park, that ripe and rare scholar Francis Dotj
eminent antiquiirica* Sixteen ycAm ^
Mr. Price's edition, and in 1841) it waf^
the superintendence of the printer, li
Taylor^ a man of no ordinary leaminj;. Tin
like mniiner received a lange accession ^f v h
from Sir Frederick Madden, the la« "
Kemble, the Rev, R. Garnett of the
Mr. Tlhitnas Wright, and other stu '
Uter.r presaot ediuon jn
i<^ \> ir. Mr, llazlitt
are r ' t.v ur.w.x
Uh: ./!■;-,
nud •
vtlyo
II U wUi^diuiOait ««^ (*i iu ii4ab».to
If
528
NOTES AND QUEBIES. [4* a vii. Jow n.iL
ing, to be hold oa Thursday, to promote sach reparation,
are going on satisfactorily, and will, we hope, produce, a
a good result. It is not generally remcmberea that this
abbey, of royal foundation, has at intervals since the
Reformation received the considerate care of various
sovereigns. In a.d. 1612, for example, from James I., by
brief— '•That monarch took a personal view of the struc-
ture as he made his progress into the North, ' and out of
his princely zeal and pious inclinacion to preserve so
antient a monument and memorable witnesse of the first
conversion of this kingdom from Pagonisme to Chris-
tianitv, granted a brief for collections to be made through-
out England and Wales for the speedy repair of the
same.' "—(Old MS.)
1681. Charles II., by brief.
1689. William and lEdary by grant out of certain ecde^
siastical funds.
1721. Greorge I., by brief.
1764. George III., by brief.
1832. William IV., by voluntan- contributions, raised
under his ausjMces.
The example thus set will, wo dare say, not be lost
sight of on the present occasion.
Arcu.£Ological Institute of Gkeat Britain. —
The preliminary arrangements have been made lor the
congress of thissociety, to be held this year, towards the
latter end of .Tuly, at Cardiff. The Marqnis of IJute will
bo president; the Duke of Bedford, Lord Tredegar, the
Earl of Cawdor, Mr. C. R. Mansel Talbot, M.P , and the
Bishop of Llandatf, the local patrons.
The OfHcial Reports of the various sections of the
Ijondon IntGrnatiorud Exhibition are already nearly com-
pleted. Part I. of the Fine Arts Division, comprising
Painting in Oil, by Sir Coutts Lindsay; Painting in
Water Colour, by Mr. S. Redgrave ; Miscellaneous Paint-
ing, by Sir M. Digby Wyatt ; and Mosaics and Stained
(rlasSf'by Mr. T. Gambier Parry, will appear in a few
ilays. Lord II(»ughton is the general editor. The Reports
are t" be published by Messr.^. .1. M. Johnson and ^>ons,
and wi'.l l>e sold in the Exhibition at }>opular prices.
Lincoln Cathedral LmRAitv. — Dr. Jercmie, the
present Dean, iifis presented upwards of a thousand works
to the catliedrar library. Great improvements have lately
been made in this library. The whole collection, which
contains many rare and valuable books anil manuscripts,
is now open to all the clergy of the diocese, and a cata-
lo!;uc, very carefully drawn up by the Librarian, has
been published.
The remains of Ugo Foscolo, the celebrated Italian poet
and patriot, were last Wednesday week .disinterred at
('hiswick cJiurchyard, in the presence of the Italian
Minister and a number of distinguished Italians, for the
purpose of being removed to Italy, to be rciuterred in the
churcli of L:i Santa Croce, at Florence. Although the
body ha?" Wrn under ground for forty-four years the
form was intact and the features still perfect.
The Into ^Irs. Charles Maclaren, widi»w of Charles
Madareii, at one time editor of yVie SrotsfHan^ has be-
qucathetl !*,.'>' »()/. to found a scholarship connected with
the l^niversity of I'.dinburgh, to be called *' The Charles
Maclaren Scholarship."
Ar.CII-EOLOOICAL DiSrOVElilES AT FlNKLEY. — Dr.
J. Stevens, of St. Marj* Bonnie, Hants has just discovered
a Roman villa nt FinkW, Sir C. Hoare's site ofVin-
domis. It is situated 400 yards west of the Portway.
There are,' ho says, at least three others close bj-.
The Acad]^iiu£ Frah^aise resumed its sittings on
Tuesday ; its Dictionaiy will appear this year.
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CONTENTa— N* 182*
rid Nncwia In Bmttlimi, 529—
inpet«i S3<X — Notci muuiinir in
HiivM ..Pi ax..i.^u'8 Poeroi,5ai — A t.u.^i.^;.,.i
• i,ife of Johnson " — Abitil or
jQSxm of SooU — Bi^a aud i
- EngrAriDir of AniiD of Bcnin&rk, &3d — Birch
. B Bocaae Tree — Buck I <\v , u H >.\ Toi tl — *' Candor
' Dftndj Rollij — Eit^^ -''Tlir! Four
gi" — Helionrabalus - — Uori© —
J of Sir PeUT licly by < kirburj Dun
ant*9 Priophccy — JiOuiH Vive--. — Peri txlieala —
' Lifo of Dr. Dotine *' — PliiJip WilliRms^s Mfita-
I Wreck of the London," a Po(?m by FiUbiiD, 634^
J -^ The " Fett«r-Lock " aa » Co^izancc of the
|[Wr»ihaJl, 63«— P1i«iPoloni<a. M»— The Toad-
— Propbeci'"^ ■' *^' ■ •-idamua and others on tho
ria. S42-A Hhire Song, 64'i-Kipper,
of t « Moth*T, £44 -'Sonnet
Ger ri . -u fsiiblin, /ft,-^
I — *- John l>ver —
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i hivii — rjuwB^* tujl^ ijii^e; Tlie Sl0W>
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1 of 1561 — John Poster of Wepdslcy, 177U —
- Refdroontil Bttdm. MottoeiL tc. — Jennour
GruouiloeyGi^'^OoiQered'' (mt ** Uioorcd."
Oka. 40.
0F TEHTNA AJTD NTTCEBIA T??
BKUTTIUM,
Iftched tH6 site where these ancient eiUes
eed to baTQ been pUced^ froua tlio direc-
_ the CRpital of one of tbc Calii-
fing ]>russed the night at the small riilfige
^ wluch overlooks a beautifiil wooded
«it which I found from the official au-
to ^a^ onl J a deceitful cloak of briganda^^ej
J was in fact exemplifying the saj iiig of
prtr, ii, i, 7)—
'^Incedi^per ignea
&Ufypo«iito8 chieri doloso/'
least dangerous course, I was advised to
night for the coast, walldng- along the
the SaTuto, the ancient Sabbatusi and I
rmore inclined to do thi»^ as it brought
e spot where I knew these ancient citiea
ised to have been situated. Hoad there
I, but I paaaed without much difficulty
\ bed of the S&Tuto, which risea in the
dof La Sila from a fiisure in the hiU, at
Fontana del Labro, and becomea
^ stream, In the beginning of May
TSieiderable body of water, and in the
m it muftt be quito impassable, Henry,
of Frederick IL, waa drowned in at-
to cross the river, and on looking at its
winter channel I o(»uld belli^Te thai such an ao*
cident could easily take place. After a fatigiiing
walk, and, I confess, with conaidei-able trepida-
tion, I got safely to the village of Nocera, which
is believed by some to represent the ancient Nu*
ceria, only Imown to us by its coins, which
hftve the Greek inscription NOTKPlNriN. The coins
have on the obverse a head of Apollo crowned
with laurel ; on the re verso a lion's head ; and
what iscujiousy those of Terina differ in no respect
but in the epigi'sph^ which is THPINA and TEPl-
NAIAN,
The village of Nocera ia prettily eituated on
the declivity of a hill a short distance li-om the
banks of the Savuto, which falls into the sea
some three miles further down. This is the first
interruption in that mountain ridge, which be*
gins a little northjof Paola, The valley is about
a mile in breadth, when the mountains again rise
suddenly to a coneiderable height, and are wooded
to the top. Nothing could exceed the beauty
of the epoty and it may very well be the site
of an ancient village ^ but though I made diligent
inquiiT of the intelligent inhabitants, both lay
and clerical^ 1 could bear of no ancient remains
that had ever been diicoveied at Xocei-a. Yet the
modern ilhme and the ancient coins render it dif-
cult not to believe that some such city must have
been placed in this neighbourhood. Is ext morning
I pioccN&ded with the Syndic of Nocera, who had
promiaed to show me the ruins of an ancient city
about three mile 6 distant, close to the aea.^ We
passed down the left bank of the Sayuto till we
reached a spot called Torm dd Piano^ where it
was evident that the extreme point of the hlU had
been levelled, A few bricks were scattered here
and there, while the foundations of houses were
clearly to be traced. What, however, showed the
importance of the city was the aqueduct j which
had conveyed water to it from the Savuto, and
which is still to be seen in tolerable preservation.
May not this, therefore, be the fflte of the ancient
Nuceriai as we know the piratical attacks of th
Saracens during the Middle Ages drove the in-
habitants on the coast to seek safer positions in
the interior ? and it might be thus that the present
Nocera took its rise. It may be asked, if this
be BO, where are we to find the position of Terina,
We know it to have been a city of considerable
note, as it gave^name to the bay now known as
Sta. Euphemia,* being called by Thucydidee (vi.
104) rhit Ttpiytuotf K^WoPf where Gylippus the
LftcSedffimonion, B.C. 413, was driven by adverse
winds from the coast of Sicily. Strabo (vi. 255)
informs its that it was destroyed by Hannibal
about i!,c. 20:3, when ho could no longer retain it,
and it probably never recovered from this blow,
though it is mentioned by Pliny and Ptolemy.
1 think we must go some twelve miles farther
south to look for the ruins of Terma, to the nedt
nfttne to the Imy, liut it will be obeerred ill at H
bay waa called in later times, after Terina H
in a greAt measure disappeared from hli^tH
Hipponiates, from the city of Ilipijonium or VH
the modem M<mte4imi6j "which la nearly atH
e<[Ual diatance from the sea* In fact it woH
receive its name from the largest city with ill
moderate distance of the coast; Terina in cnl
times, and Vibo latterly, seem to have been I
The village of Tiriolo is situated on a steep (9
cliyity of the Apennines^ where the mountains I
the Sila come to an abrupt close, and where tl
JlaiiiB of Maida are found, famed for the battle J
uly 4, 180G^ between the English troops undl
Sir John Stuart and the French under Generl
Re|rnit*r. The ruins of the ancient city are a mil
below the present village, and are of considerabl
aize. If this bo not Terina, we know of no otbJ
ancient city in this neighbourhood. It was herl
that a bronze tablet was found in 1G40, on whicl
is inscrihed a decree of the Roman senate^ B.al8<3
against a society devoted to the worship of Bac
chus, which bad excited their alanu from thi
licentious and profligate chnracter of its devoteef
This decree U referred to by Livy (xxxix. 18)
and it is surprising^ that a copy of it should hav*
been found in this remote part of Italy in the niin
of a town respecting whose name there should b
any doubt, Thig tablet is to be seen in the Roya
Museum of Vienna^ and its enacting daiiaes \
fnund to he the toll owing ; —
"CirSSVERK . HOM1?fES . TLOVS . V . OlXTORSEl .
VIRKI , A-rqVK . MVLIVIRKS . SACRA , KK ,
QVIJKJVAM . 1T-CIS?8B , VSLKT . KKVB . TKTER ,
TBai . VIRF4 . FLOVS . t>VOBVa , MVLIEIIIB%<'8 ,
PLOYS , TlunVS . Al>FVI3SK , VEU5T."
The present inhabitants of Tiriolo are a race o
sturdy mountaineers, and its women_
" x\v fltrili ~
DSBM/n.j
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ith^ like UiAt or the ophfckidea one heurs
.ey smi Gregorians capttidly/ Mr, Fidd,
Bimvl'rooko, gives the dimGasiona of thia
t, din. ia lenfi^h, and 2iL lin. Acroaa the
t has no isUde tike a telescope. Ar« the
^rijins prepared to Adopt Mr. Sutton's
[uite certain tbat these instrumenta
order to make the mnst of the voice
>al village vocalist^ whether in ** lead-
ly bv eingin^ the melody, or in lead-
tea. ' When these trump eU were iu
', tiinea for villiijare pftftlmody were
part arranged with the melody as a
then those who sang by ear could
t up, whether boys, woDien, or men ;
h fid could read music or bad ft aenae
there was a second treble or counter-
") part, and iilso a bnas part. How-
:nn>eta may have been used, we may
that the trumpeter would be in hia
f in such paasages aa the bit of basa
mbridge New/' or in darkens psalm,
a pleasant thing' to stand/' where
ig cedar ^^ cornea in. I have under-
a Lincolnshire the chief bass singer
fittempted to pronounce the words at
ted all the energies of body, pou!^ and
enunciatioQ of the notes* J. T. F.
[I, DarhafD.
:NG in KKKillTLEVS EDITION OF
MILTON'S FOEMS.
y great surprise, in looking^ over my
C after they had been published, 1
no note on the well-known —
Bpiritual creatures walk tfae t^Artfa,** &:c,
Far, Lo»t^ iv. C77.
; I should have left it ao is an utter
, and it at laat struck me that, as I
es on anmll paper, the leaf continning
been lost at the printing-otiice, and
I by tlie printer or by myaelf. To
3vil as far aa poasible, I have added
I paragraph in MS. to the section on
y in my L{fe^ ^c, of Milton .*—
i and evil an^eb were, according,'' to Mil-
LO only animated and ratioual Uing^ in
1 God rcsolv&i to create tbe worlds and
irtb, ita centre, the firnt liuman pair. It
, iurpri:9e to meet LiL Parmlhe Lost the two
iges, 1q tbe first, speaking of tlie stars, he
urlda they accmed, or happy i^les,
lesperiangdrdens famed of'old»
slds and grovea and tlowery vales,
Y IhleSf but ffAa dweif happy there^
it to inquire.*' — iiL 5<i7.
i: —
spiritual creatures walk the eartli
I when wc wake and when we alcep j
h ceasoless praise hii worka behold,
d night,*— Iv, t/77.
** The firfit of thesa is an instance of whnt we have
already noticed, tlie poet'a halting between the Ptolt inuic
and Copemican aystema; tho second ia a reroarkahlt}
proof of the power the iniflgt nation posseraca of over-
riding and controlling the other mental faculties Milton^s
imai^natioQ bein^ full of a w«dl'kiiown beautiful pae4a^
in Ilesiod^* he rc£;olvod to imitate and surpass it, utterly
forgetful of how completely it waa at variance with hii
whde eastern of pneumatology. What could he have
replied, if asked who or what those apiritual creaturca
were^ or where they came from ? But this question never
se^ms to have entered his own mind, or thoao of his com-
mentators. It may, no doubt, be said that they were
good angeia (see v. 647) j but these were the reaident*s of
btaven alune, which thus rarely if ever left, unless when
dispatched on special errands.*'
Having thus cured as well aa I could the only
defect of any importance to bo found in njy Poems
of MiUon, I venture to claim for it the character
given it by one of our most Jistiogui«bed pro-
latea^ that of being by far the beat edition ot an
Enitrlish classic in the language.
The beautiful Variorum Edition of Shakespeare
now coming out at Philadelphia, U. S., will dis-
play the number, variety, and value of my not^s
and emendations aa compared with those of my
predeceasors ; and I feel convinced tbat fur many
years to come my name will appear in constant
union with those of our two (may 1 not say three ?>
greatest poeta.
A parasitic immortality ! it may invidiously be
aaitl. Even be it so: it contents me. I have,
however, written other works which may bo read*
for many a year to come, TnoiiAs Kki outlet*.
A PLAGIARISM.
Whilst recently perusing a book contoining se-
lections from Flemish authors (Leesoefeniftgcn imw
(h Jeugd^ by K. F. Stallaert, Ghent, 18t.io), I
found an alleged incident in the life of Louis v«tt
Male, CouDt of Flanders, aa having occurred in
1351 at the French court of John the Good, where
the burgomasters and Bheriils of Bruges, Ghent,
and Ypres had presented themselves^ with tb^-ir
count, to pay homage to the new king on the
occasion of big coronation. It ia therein record* d
(p. 47) that at the grand tourney held in comme-
moration of the event, Louis, who was a stately
knight, carried off all the honours. Notwith-
standing the magnificent display of the surround-
ings of ro3'alty at the feativo board on the same
evening, the narrative proceeds, there was some-
thing, nowever, which displeased the natives of
Bruges : it was their seats, which, whether simply
of wood or not so costly as those they had been
used to, seemed to make them uncomforlabl*^.
Perhaps they had hardly imagined, at the French
court, that they were too common for Flemings.
« It was enough ; the men of Bruges spre.ad ttuir
splendid thickly gold-covered scarlet mantles upon their
• See Ilcsiod,'JEp7,, 120.
I
532
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[4»«»S.VII. Ju3fE24^7L
seats, and following the advice of Simoen van Aartryke,
their burgomarter, left them there upon their departure.
This astonished the king as well as all his ooartiers and
guests ; and messengers were sent after them to inform
them of what had been forgotten. But Sim6en spake
smilingly to the polite master of ceremonies : ' Friend,
when we Flemings leave the dining-table we never cany
away our scats with as."
.Now it happens that this tale is told of Robert
of Normandy in his travels, some hundreds of
years before, to the Holy Land. Maistre Wace,
the Norman trouv^re, in his metrical chronicles
follows the duke to Constantinople, where the
emperor gave him an invitation to meet him at
Ills palace, but never as much as offered him a
chair. The following lines, given as an English
version of the passage referred to, are taken (I
believe) from BhckzcootTs Magazine for August,
183<5 :—
»* Then from his shoulders off he drew
Uis mantle ; on the ground he threw
It down, and sat himsolf thereon.
The converse ended, when each one
\lo9e to depart, he left it there.
One of the Greeks, with courteous care,
Reminded him, and to him brought
That mantle rich and fair ^'wrought,
That he might put it on ; but he
Replied— with true nobilitie—
* Wliere I have left it let it lay, [«ic]
1 carrj' not my seat away.' "
History is said to repeat itself, but I cannot
think the two pictures a coincidence. The only
question is, under how many forms and under
what varied circumstances has the incident been
misrecited ? II. W. R.
Jersey.
BoswFJiL's Life or Johnson. — There is an
error in IJoswell which neither Croker nor any
later commentator has, I think, detected. The
dates of the various epochs of the career of the
great conversational gladiator of the last century
are the very vertebra} of his Life. Now one of the
chief of these dates Bos well has evidentlv set
down incorrectly. At page 30 of the ISCO edi-
tion, Boswell, in his list of Johnson's London resi-
dences, writes '^Staple Inn, 1758," whereas in
E age 118 he inserts a letter of Johnson's to Mrs.
rucy Porter, dated March 23, 1769, which con-
t^iins the following conclusive passage : —
" I have this day moved my thin^rs, and you are now
to direct to me at Staple Inn^ f^ndnn^ &c! , ... I am
fiCoing to publish a little storj- book (7?ajwe/a«), which I
will send you when it is out.*'
In 1750 Johnson was fifty years old. Ilis
mother had been buried on the ^23rd of January
of the same year. ItasseUvt was written in March
1750, and published in April. Jolmson received
100/. for the first edition, and 2^)1 for the second.
lie told Reynolds that he wrote it in seven con-
secutive evenings. With the lOOA Johnson, like
a good son, defrayed the expense of hia motiiei'f
funeral, and paid off some small debts she hrnd in-
cnrred in Licnfield. Voltaire's Ca$utidef also a po-
test against the comfortable doctrines of optimum^
appeajred about a month before HasdelaSf but Jobs-
son had not seen it Two passages in JRataelm,
alluding to the death of the aathor*s mother, al-
ways seem to me peculiarly touching illustntians
of what a tender heart the hig bear-like man
had. The first is in cha]^ter zlv., where Imlae
the sage says: "I have neither mother to be de-
lighted with the reputation of her son, nor wife
to partake the honours of her husband." In
another place Imlac says : ^ That the dead an
seen no more I will not undertake to mmtain
against the concurrent and unvarying testimony
of all ages and of all nations.''
Johnson, at the time he was in Staple
was carrying on the liller, which he began Ap
15, 1758, and ended April 5, 1760. lie seems to
have left Staple Inn in l)ecember 175D, forGrvr*i
Inn. It was as nearly as possible, too, about the
same time that Johnson formed the acquaintance
of Goldsmith, then a bookseller's hack in Green-
arbour Court, Old Bailey. In 1700 he had cham-
bers at No. 1, Inner Temple Lane, and in 1777
he went to Bolt Court I feel a new pleasure in
passing along Holbom when I think of Johneco
reading the proofs T)f Basseiat or writing the ItBer
in his chambers in Staple Inn.
Walter Tkovxvukt.
5, Fornivars Inn.
Absaxox and AcniTOPHEL. — ^In a note to the
following lines, which occur in the well-known
description of Shaftesbury (Achitophel) —
*' David for him his tmieful harp had strung.
And Heaven had wanted one immortal song,"
Mr. Christie, the editor of the "Globe Edition"
of Bryden, makes the following singular re-
mark : —
" This arrogant hoast, Trhich has been justified, cooU
only have been made in an anon^-mous publication.''
^ Surely this is entirely to mistake Dryden's allu-
sion. Tie poet has been drawing (whether jiutlj
or the reverse is not here the question) a m
severe portrait of Shaftesbury, and goes on to eay
that had he been as loyal a subject as he was an
upright judge, David would have composed a
Sialm in his honour, and Heaven (to whose gloij
avid*s psalms are without exception devoted)
would have been without at least one of the
number.
It is true that on this explanation, equallv with
Mr. Christie's, the allegory halts; for Charfes E,
who rejjresents David in the satire, was not in
the habit of addressing hymns to the Almightf ;
but such occasional lapses are a nite in Diyden'i
manner ; and it is certamlj most improbable thai*
arrogant or not, Dryden should speak of a sildzicii
4«^S.VIL JuyB24,71.]
KOTES AND QUERIES.
333
poem as one by the writing of whicli *' HeaTen "
could be eitlier pleased or honoured-
I ahftll be glad to know if any more plausible
explanntloa of the passage ]ias been fiuggested.
Sir Walter Scotfs edition, like many other*,
pasens orer tbe dilHculty, ** sicciBsiniis pedibus."
Templeu Alfred Ai^oisb.
Mart, QrEEX of Scotb.— A tragedy on this
eTer-attractive theme baa just appeared in Oer-
^_2iumyf the author's name Lothar Erae, a native of
■•Austria. The scene of action is placed, not in
England, but in Scotland; and Mary is not repre-
aented as in prison^ but as a reignmg aovereign*
The play ia said to posaess decided dramatic
poTvor, and waa received, on ita representation in
Weimar, with great applause. In the present
dearth of native aramatic talent, here is a fine sub-
ject for oui* playwrights to work from ; and I freely
throw out the hint, as suggested to me by a
favourable critique in a German periodicaL
JoHK Macray,
BrFFix AKD PrFFD?, — Afl I was walking some
two or three years ago through the streets of
Cambridge with my wife, we noticed in a grocer's
abop 0ome pears Hattcned out and dried after the
manner of bitlins. " What do they call them, I
wonder," said my wife, '*J*ilHn8 of course," I
repli»*d^ jokingly. We went into the shop and
asL^id. **Piflin8, ma'am," waa the reply, to my
gr^at amusoment The originator of tnese dried
peats had evidently followed exactly the same
train of thougbt that I mjaelf had. Dried apples
are called bi^s ; the word pear begins with a p :
therefor*.' dried peara should be called /^i^/j^. No
logic — ^but concise and oonvenient And so the
wr»r>i Has pn^sed into the English language. It h
t' I now-a-days for philologists to deny
t ! can be manufactured in this way out
• liiore other words,* and the word piffin
I t valuable as showing how convention-
El I may sometimes be formed. If irifin
i *n formed in our own days, is it notpoa-
fii.ji. ^u ,L ,i few words may have been thus formed
in former dava? And if so, this mode of word-
foruiation, utterly illojj^ical and irradical (if 1 may
cold the word) as it is, should be borne iu mind
M possible,
i know one other instauce in which a word has
be6ll manufactured in a similar manner. A young
ladjr of my acquaintance has for her Christian
names Jane Emma, and for some little time she
was called Jane Emma* Some one, however,
60OO discovered that Jane Emma was rather long,
• Tiitta the word Jefumah ia commonly beliaf ed by tha
JawB t ' ' ' ■ : . i-.i.. .- I ^.,m of tlie past,
prese n i i trew verb Ka^h
ai AUog<utlt<ir iuipos^bl^aailiidiculed hy Hebreir 8cb<dir«*
.qC the modem bcIloqI.
and that Jemma would anaweT the purpose
equally well. The idea found favour, and now
no intimate friend of the young lady ever calla
her anything else but Jemma * j and if she ever
marries and has daughters, I doubt not but that
one of them wiU be christened Jemma, and then
some day the origin of this name mav be a puzde
to her descendants and to other people also.
F. CttAITCB,
I) IK WIN *s Th^ort uj Java. —
^^Jiundreda of anecdotes are told concemmg thcsso
* doubles * of th« Javaufi^e. If you question a native on
the subject, there is not one who will not tdl you, * The
monktJjB arc mcu just like ourselves, but th«y are much
<ilevcrcr, and have never cbosen to speak, so that thi?y
unght not be mode to work,** — A Voyage Round tht
World, by M, D© Beavoir,
This is precisely the opinion, and expressed too
in the same words, which ia attributed to the
natives of India by Euiopeans. Eut because in
Hindu mythology there happens to be a monkey-
god, there U no reason why such a belief should
bo attributed to them. They are scarce! v suf-
ficiently enlightened to entertain it sonously.
Perhaps travellers do not give semi-civilised ori-
entals sufficient credit for their satirical talents*
There may be many a Domaaf in Java. 8,
CHurrtritf,
ENGRAVING OF AKNE OF DENMARK,
I bave recently met with an engraved portrait
of Queen Elizabeth (P) three-quarter lengtn. As
I am desirous of knowing if it is of any Talue, I
will endeavour to deecribe it The size of the
engraWng ia 10 by 8 J in. The face ia certainly
not young; the hair in rolla, leaving the forehead
bare. Between the fifth and sixth rolls, which
are transverse in their direction and powdered^
are what seem to be abort rolla of a darker
colour, 80 disposed aa to resemble an embattled
coronet, and quite at the back ia a dark feather ;
on the left side is a long, narrow, tapering plait
of hair with the ends free. She wears a necklace
of three rows, and a locket appended to them.
On each aide of the neck is a broail, embroidered,
ribbed, reverted ruE The low drcas has a rosette
on each shoulder, and one in the centre ; on the
left arm ia a scarf with very brood ends of fringe.
The long sleeves end each in a deep richly em-
broidered reverted cuJFj on each wri^t is a triple
• My wife, IT ho 15 a rtlalton of theroung lady, teUa roe
that the name is now alwaya spelled GemnuL This makes
ita origio atill more obscure and puzzUagt for there is n
genuine Itatian woman's name GcnuiMU— See Miss Yoagc*a
HUU <\f ChrisHaH NaiM».
f Dumas being oaked by a rude fellow (with reference
to hiB ©omplejuon) who lua father was, repHed ** A
'^— "Ani! your crtndfathcr ?" — " A monkey , air,
b^^lna where yoars ends,"
534
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«*S.VIL Jui««4,7L
row of beads ; in the left hand is a handkerchief,
and in the ri^ht a fan (?) of three large ostrich
feathers fixed in a handle. The waist is long, end-
ing in a hoop. Unfortunately the dress has been
daubed oyer with dull red paint. At the bottom
of the engraying are the following two verses of
eight lines each, placed side by side, in manuscript
cluuracters. There is no date, but this inscription :
— ^^ Sould bv John Ouerton at the White Horse
neere the Fountaine Taueme without Newgate.
Are to be sould by . . . .,* Peter Stent."
Before the first verse is a large A, and after the
second a large C, done in pale green water-colour.
** Thee to invite, the great God sent a starre,
Whose friend and neerest kyn good Princes arc.
For though they run the race of men and dye,
Death seems but to refine their Majestie :
So did the Qaeene from hence her court remove.
And left the Earth to bee enthroned above ;
There she is chang*d, not dead—no good Prince dies,
But as the day sunne, onely setts to rise.
*• And now that cloud of death is ouer blowne.
To heav'n her native soyle, her sonle is flowne
Where her Redeemer lives, with him to raigne,
Millions of Angclls waiting on the traine ;
No more, as here, half mortall, half devine,
But in pure glorj' in her sphere to shine,
From whence shec sends a brighter lustre downe
Then Coisars locke, or Ariadnes crowne."
T. P. Febnie.
[The engraving of which Mr. Ferxie has furnished
us with a rough tracing is Anne of Denmark. A fine im-
pression, bat without the large letters A. C. and the line
beginning " Sould," is in the British Museum. It is thus
described in Granger (ed. 1824), ii. 9 : —
"In a rich dress, large feather fan in lier left hand,
sixteen English verses, * Thee to invite,' &c. No name
of engraver, Sec. ; small Bhect ; rare.'*
Judguig by the style and extremely delicate working
•of the face, it is very probably the work of Pass.]
BiRcn Family. — In the church of South
Thoresby, Lincolnshire, is a tablet to the memory
of the Rev. Thomas Birch, who died in 1808, and
who had heeu rector there for upwards of fifty
years. I should feel ohlipred to any of the numer-
ous readers of " N. & Q." if they could give any
account of the ancestors of the above. Mr. Birch
left, I believe, five sons — viz. Thomas, Jonathan,
William, Neville, and Charles. Anv information
■ of the descendants of these would likewise be
esteemed a favour. F. M. Datkin.
43, Glasshouse Street, Nottingham.
The Bocase Trke.— In Farming Woods, Rock-
ingham Forest, Northamptonshire, stands an old
stone about three feet high, with the following
inscription : —
** Here in this pines stood Bocase tree."
If you would give any information about ". Bocase
tree " you would greatly oblige F. R. A.
Thrapston.
[The bocase tree signifies i)robably the chestnut-tree,
from the old French word bochassef a wild chestnut. (See
♦ An erasure here.
Cotgrave*8 Dictionary.) In Anglo-Saxon hoe or bocet,
in modem Swediah Mk, denote a beech-tree ; bat the
common root in all these is evidently the same ae fai the
Fiench bois, a wood, bocage, a grove of trees, and the
English wood, which is doubtless merely a metathesis of
letters. The word book also comes from the same sonra^
from the circumstance of thin layers of wood or bsik
havine in former times been the materials on whid
recorcb of any kind were kept From the primary rigniil-
cation of the root in 6oc or bochasae^ the word b^' a natmil
law of metonymy came to be applied to particular tnsi
as well as to wood in general. What this significatioa
originally really was would be difficult to pronoonoe on
positively, and at least would entail a lengthened and
wearisome disquisition. Bescherclle derives boiM firom
the Greek $6<ncM, to graze, from woods being the pasture
grounds of cattle ; but this explanation, though it donbl-
less carries some truth, is manifestly imperfect la
** N. & Q." 2«<i S. vUi. 498, will also be found some con-
jectures as to the origin of the Bocase tree.]
BucKLET, AT OxpoRD. — Some years ago then
was a young man at the University of Oxford of
the name of Buckley, who gave promise of gnat
eminence in classical and general literature, bad
his life been spared ; but he was cut off, by ferer,
I believe, before he had reached his thirtieth year.
He was indefatigable in editing new and iniprored
editions of standard school and college books, aad
I am anxious to procure a list of all tnat he ddd m
this way. Can any of your readers assist me F
Young Buckley was a proUgS of the well-known
Greek scholar, George Burges. Quxbist.
[The Rev. Theodore Alois William Buckley, UA^
late one of the chaplains of Christ Church, Oxford, was
bom July 27, 1825, and died Jan. 30, 1856. He wm
buried in* Woking cemetery with this inscription on his
tomb : —
" The love of learning made thee early known.
But Death as early struck the flower half-blown."
The works he edited or translated attest his diligence,
accurac}', and accomplishments as a classical scholar. A
list of them (too long for quotation) is printed in the
Gent. Mag. for March, 185G, with some account of hi*
personal historj*.]
''Candob iLLiESTJS." — ^What family used the
motto " Candor illfesus " in the early part of the
seventeenth century, say from 1020 to 1030 ?
Geo. Willluis.
Dandy Rolls. — I am a maker of dandy roUs.
Can any of your correspondents tell me the mein-
ing or derivation of the adjective in this case?
I suppose its application is not anterior to the
making of paper by machine. E. Aiueb.
English Bible. — Will one of your learned
correspondents be so kind as to favour me vith
dates of the editions of the English Bible pab-
lished in the reign of King James I. P and also io
inform me which is the most authentic histoiy of
the English Bible ? R GBimTBB.
Molleston House.
[The following list of the English Bible printed tt^
James I. is taken from Bobn*s /k>»fKfw and theCi^
loguee of the British Museum :~Loiid. 4to, blad^ leM
J
4«kS,TlL JcNB2i,7L]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
535
4to and 870 ; 1005, Lond. black totter, 4to } t<J06. Lond.
4toaQdSvo; 1607, l^nd. foL; 1G07-8, Lond. 4to; 1608,
Lond. 4to and Sro j 1609, Loud. Ito ; 1610, Lond.foU, 4to,
and Bvo; Edinb. foL ; Dowav, 2 vola. Ato\ ICIO-H,
Lond. 4to; lOll-UUa, the Authorised, Lond. fol., 4to,
8ro, and 12ino; 1612, the Koyal, 4to ; 1<;13, Load, fol
and4to; 1C13-14, Lond, 4to ; 1614, Lond. 8vo ; 1615,
Lond. 4to ; 1<j16, Lond. foL; 1617, Lond. foU 8vo, and
12ino; 1618,Lond,l'2rao 1 1613,Loud.4toiind8vo ; 1020,
Lond. 12mo; 102 1» Lond. 4to and 8vo | IGi:^, Lund. 4tn;
1^^-S, Jjoml Ho; 1625. Lond. 4to. Consult also the
T. ' s. Cotton, and Li a Wilson.
rk. on The History of the Bible is that
h\ ^ - -:-.,:.iiouaC| especially tbo ediLious corrected
ttiid improved by Dr. George Glei^ (Lond. 3 vols. 4to,
1817), and that by Dr. Dewar (Gla^^gow, roy. Svo, 1838,
l^G, 1650), The following works may aUo be profitably
coRflultcd*— (L) A General Surrey of the HUtoty of
the Cnnon of the JVeuj 7'e^tametUL during the Jirtt four Cen-
ttirit*, by u, F. Woatcott, M.A, 1855, Svo ; and by the
sanae author (2*) A Gcntnil View of the Hi$tory of the
KnglUh Bible, 180«, 8vo, To which may be added Dr,
Wni, Smith's Student' i Old and New Tettameni History^
2 Yok 18C5-60
"The Four Last Things."— A kte acquisition
to my library is Pocnu on the Four Last Tkmys :
viz. Death, JufltpnetU, Hdl^ Ift^veHf ISmo, pp. 122,
Hetffworth, 170<1 In the catalogue of the collec-
tioa it came from it is called Greeo^s; but 00
looking up that name I find tlie Four Last Thintjs
of the Rev. T* Greene, Bishop of Ely, are iu prose,
John Bun van wrote a book in verse under the
dtl©, but It is not Ilia ; nor i$ it The Four ImM.
Things of Dr. Tra^p. '* The Author to hia Booke,
in Imitation of Ovid/* introduces himself and work
in thirty-two linca, tegiiming —
" Go, little book, whikt 1 lament
My wretched fate and barmhment/*^
and eoding^ —
** but kctp my iiam«
From the malicious breath or Fame."
A prohibition which, considerinjj the time of day,
the possesaor of the secriit umy without any breadi
oC confidence now reveal, A. G.
IlELiooABALVS.^Upon what occasion was it
that, or for what purpose did, *^ Ileliogabalus col-
lect ten thousand pounds weifrht of cohweba in
Rome"? aa I have just found stated on the au-
thoTity of Lauipridiua in an edition of the worka
of Horace. W, P.
[The following passage occars in the life of Helloga-
lialus by Lnmpridiiui:— "Joeabatuf sane ita cum scrvis,
(ij 1 - t miHena pondo sibi aranearum deferrc^ pro- I
p >; colkgiswciuo dicitur decern millia pondo
01 . liccns ct hinc iatelligendura quam magna
c»*i.L Koiua,"*]
Heraldic. — Can any readers of ** N, & Q," in-
form me to whom the creiat of a lion rampant
holding an olive branch in hid mouth belongs ?
also ft coat of arms with a coronet and two chev-
rnnela? Also, I am desirous of a'^certninin;?
antecedents of a familv name<l •
nected with that of Millet Any information
respecting the above will grreatlv oblif^e H, A.
Eaixbkidoe, 24, Russell Road, Kensington,
HoB.13, — I shall be much obliged if any of your
correspondents, learned in ritual matters, can tell
me in what part or parts of a MS, Book of Hours
ir* look for the diiTerencea which distinguish one
Use from another, as the Use of Sarum from the
Use of Home or Paris. I have one befij^ me in
wliich there are no words such as we r^[uently
tiiid — ** Incipiunt Horte b. v. M. secundum usum
Ftomano^ carife,'* or the like. The workmanbhin
ia apparently French; of the few saints which
the Calendar contains there ai'e none but St. Ed-
mund the king which are, I suppose, distinctively
British ; but the fact that there are large minia-
tures of 8t. George and the martyrdom of St,
Thomas of Canterbury might lead one to conjec-
ture that if one knew where to look for the proof
the vohuiie might be found to be a Sarum one,
IlEJTRr H. GiBBS,
[ Wc are indt;bte<l to a kind friend for the followiag
rejil y to our correapondeiu's querj* : —
"The particular Use after which the Manuscript Hours
were writteu i^ to be \m\inA for at the commence men t.
When not thus apecilied, the diocese, monastic onlcr, antl
even the church and monastery where it was recited, mny
be gathered from the ^nU named in the Calendar, the
Commemorations, and the Litauiaa Sanetornm* The
Sarum hourd of the Oksaed Virgin Mary difTercd from
the Koman in paalminaud lessons. At pre?cnt the Itoioaa
is^ alone in use, duasult also De. Officio Parro B. Marim
Viryinig : Rfttlnlph, Deam, Tonfjrrc'M De CtHQHum Ob-
servantia^ pr<ipo.«itio 21, at p. 1146 of Melcldor Hittorpin*.
De Divinis Vtiiholk. EccL OJiciis, I- aria, fob 1G'J3, —
H. C."]
MONITMEN'T OF SiR PeTER LeLT BY GiBlJONS. —
It is Stated in the Art Jotrnml for January IS^lj
that Sir P. Lely was buried in the church of St*
FauFa, Coven t tfarden, on Dec. 7» 1(180, by torch-
light. He left one hundred pounds for a monu-
ment, which was executed by Grinling Gibbons.
The fire of 1705 destroyed the church. Does any
drawing or engraving of thia monument exist?
JoHJ^ PiOGOT, Jtnr.
Marbury Dry.— Xe.ir Morbury Hall, Cheshu
13 a knoll or tumidua crowned with trees, and (
stone bearing the inscription : —
" Here lioa Marbury Don,
The best mare that ever mn,**
Where shall I find the true history, or even tba
legend of this famous horse » which is said to have
been buried with silver shoes P M. D.
MiRY Rant's Prophecy.— In Langiua' preface
to that curious alcheraiatical book --L* Open En-
trance to the Shu Palace^ there is an allusion to
" Mary Rant (an Englishwoman), who by inward
revelation promised concerning the making of
gold^ th&t it would become vulvar or common in
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»fcS.VILJuHB2i,'71.
the yefir 1061.'* Who was she, and where is the
prophecy to be seen ? Similar anticipations have
been ascribed to many modern physicists.
C. Ellis Browne.
[Marj- Rant's work is extremely rare, and is not to be
found in the British Museum or the Bodleian. It is en-
titled Clavia Apocalyptica Maria: RaniCf Angl, qua auri
facturum Brevi Vufyarem futurum forty ut note anno
IGGi.promittiL To1obip,8vo. See"N.&Q."2"<»S. v. 130.1
Louis Vives. — Who was J. II., the translator
of Vives' Commentary on the treatise of Saint
Augustine, " De Civitate Dei " H In what works
can I find any information as to his (Vives')
sojourn in England ? Em. Vanden Bussche.
Bruges.
[J. II., the translator of Vives* Commentary (1610) was
John Ilenlcv, of Eumianuel Collc^, Cambrtdp.% of whom
some notices will be found in **N. & Q." 3'* S. ii. 203,
334, 470 ; iii. 28G. The best account of Johir Ix)uis Vives
(ob. 1540) is the Mcmoire sur la Vie et les Ecrits rleJean-
JTAiuis ViccSj par A.-J. Xameche, printed in Mnnoire*
Couronnrg de CAcadfrnie Roynle dv* Sciences et Belies-
Lettreu de Bruxelies, 184 1 . U)ine x v. ( Consult also Wood's
Athena Oronienses by Bliss, i. Ml, and Fiddes, Life of
Cardinal JFohey, etl 1724, p. 218.]
Pekiodicals. — A lady will be obliged to you
or your correspondents for .information as to the
names aiid numbers of periodicals published in
Great Britain, London excepted.
[Our correspondent will find a copious li$t of maga-
zines, rcvifws, and neriodicals published in the United
Kingdom and the British Isles in the Newgpaper Press
Directory for 1871 (London, C. iMitchcll & Co., Red
Lion Court, Fleet Street, price one florin), pp. 125 to 135.]
Walton's " Lipe of Dr. Donxe."— In Wal-
ton's Lifo of Dr. John Donne there is an extract
from a letter written by the latter, in which the
following passage occurs : *' It is now spring, and
all the pleasures of it displea?o in<» ; every otlier
tree blopsoms and I wither," &C. The date of the
letter is Sept. 7. Can any of your readers account
for this -^ ' " Alpha.
[\yhat appears a9 one letter in tho Life of Dr. Donne
consists of extracts from several others, as stated by
Walton in the priccdin;^ paraprraph : " Tluis he did bo-
moan himself; and thus in other Icltrrs.** Some of the
pa3sa;:fes we have traced in Donne's Ltthra, edit. ICwl,
pp. 30, oo, 51, 78, &c.]
Philip Williams's Metaphor. — In the JRccol-
lectins of the late John Adolphus, by his dau;f li-
ter -Mrs. Henderson, just publi*lied, are m.iiiy
interesting extracts from his diary. In onr^ dated
Christmas Day, 1840, he mentions dinin-j in the
Inner Temple Hall and hearing —
"A strangely mixed metaphor used bv Phil. Williams
in a lecture delivered by him as Vinerian Professor, I
believe. It was somethiupj like this:— * Thus is the
student launched into tho wide ocean of the Law without
nidder or compass, jinnpini; like a squirrel from boufrh
to bouuh, and cndeavourini; to tish up the disjointed
members of the polypus." — p. UIG.
I remember Thilin Williams, K.C., about thirty-
five years ago, as tne tallest man at the bar. I ,
think he was on tho Western Circuit. He hid
little practice, but was reputed to be a competent
lawyer and good scholar. He held tfae Vineriin
Professorship at Oxford, and was bo well satisfied
with his Inaugural Lecture that he had a few copies
printed for private distribution. Lord Denman
received one, and told me the metaphor, which
was so striking that I wrote it down, and asked
him if I had it correctly. He said yes, and offered
to lend me his copy for perusal, but as he said
there was nothing ehe remarkable in it I did not
trouble him. My version is : —
" Launched in the wide ocean of lepral study without
rudder or compa.<a, he leaps like a squirrel from twij^ to
twi^, vainly endeavouring to collect the scattered Imbs
of Hippolytus."
I commend these variations to the consideratiai
of those who believe that the text of Homer wai
preserved in its purity through so many centnriei
oeforo the invention of letters. Should any resder
of '* X. & Q.** possess a copy of the lecture, I shtll
be glad to have the exact passage, if it diflers from
the above. An Inner Texfus.
" WRiiCK or THE London," a Poem by Fni-
BALL. — ^AVhere can this be obtained P X.
WitpTiti.
THE "FETTER-LOCK" AS A COGXIZAXCE OF
THE LONGS OF WBAXHALL.
(4"» S. vii. 423, 496.)
The communication by the Vicar of Bradford-
on-Avon about a monument in South 'Wraxhall
church, CO. Wilts, will not fail to catch the atten-
tion of any Wiltshire archoDologist acquainted
with the place; for, as he most truly says, it Ins
been for a long time a verj- great puzzle. It may
be well just to mention, m aid of any reader oif
** N. & Q." who may wish to try his hand at in
opinion, tliat small engravings of it (with id
elaborate description by the late C. E. Long, Esq.)
may be found in the Gent, Mag,, June, ISfe,
p. 688; also in Walkers ^w/A rtVa.r*<i// (p.C),
and in Wiltshire Collections, Aubrey and JacKSCO,
plate ii. and p. 23. The effig}- is certainly that oft
lady, apmrently the wife of a " Long." ' That the
'' fetter- lock '' badge on the cornice and panels lisd
reference to the tenure of the manor ofDraycote
Ceme (a manor some miles oiij and in a different
Hundred from that in which South Wraxhall Kei)
was John Aubrey's story, not mine. At the tine
I wrote the observations on Aubrey which the
Vicar quotes from me, tho matter bad not been »
fully ino uired into as it has been since both Iv
him and others; and I therefore did not Ibm
myself quite in a position to contradict or camd
Aubre^r (who lived two hundred years ago), exospi
on a minor point It is now, I think, lUmoit eer-
tain that the *< fetter-lode ** badge has notldivto
4«*aVII. Ju3fE24, 7h]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
537
do with tlie tenure of the manor of Dnjcota
Ceme.
' That this hsdge was more lilcoly to hare been
adopted by the Long family, as an emblem of
' their herediUiT office of '* IWdell or Bailiff of the
hnndred of Bnuiford," under Shaftesbury monas-
tory. ia m good idea of the Yicar'a own, and it is
i]\r, hest solution of the diiliculty yet put forth.
J\v will, I ara sure, not object to my making one
zetnark upon it, yiz* that, firom the authorities he
qiiotest; there seem to have been two quantities of
lands attached to the office of Bedell: one which
paM*d through the hands of ** William Bedell,
' t*> ** John Long, R*q,, a.d. HJSO " ; the
j^h thrvse of the fiuTiiliea uf *' Ford" to
•• (nbove, p. -125, col 2), Now that
11 I parcel of ground, with office of
IkaLji Li'ijchul, ever come to the Long family, I
think iltultiid; because the Ford and Berlegh
eatatee in thtit part of Wilts and Somerset cer-
teinly passed to a different family — the Huaseye ;
ISpom them to Sir Wm* Button of Alton, now
r^pre^riented by Heneage of Compton Bas&et Sup-
ooaing that aomehow or other these Berlegh lands
had come to the Longs, they muat have been
iMigniticant in quantity, not enough to constitute
whrtt is generaOy unier33toi>d by **aa heireaa";
to SUV ni>thing of the fact, that of any such heireaa
13 no record, nor eten tradition j in the
;,^" family.
The Vicar of Bradford auggeata that the anna
on the tomb may perhaps bear out hia conjecture
about aij Jieiress of the name of Berlejrh, or Bar-
ley. Tho rjiv^wtion turns upon the 1st and 4lh
<] r'lQ wnister (the wife^s) aide of the
^1 t>y the figure of the angel. This
qt. ; hrts hitherto been commonly supposed
t*:- ' iirnis of Berkeley, But as the Vicar
counts oidy nine crosaea" upon it* ** whereas every
!Bczheley coat haa ten,'' and as he considers the
isharge on the chevron "to be fleurs*de-lys as likely
aa rose* or plates, which two latter no Berkeley
coai has," he is led to think that the quartering
jnay be the arms of ^^ Barley or Berlegh *' ; because
Burke's Armoty giyes, under the name of *' Bar-
ley,'* **nine croasleta litchiSe, and on a chevron
three fleurs-de-lys."
In reply to this there is, firct, this objection:
the crosses given in Burke to ** Barky '* arc croaae«i
JUih^'c (pointed at the foot), whereaa those on the
SLontiment are assuredly crosses paicc — and such
arc- lit^rkeley croases.
iN uKJn t at? to the number ''nine." Ten is eor*
tainly tlv? proper nunibt-r on the shield of the
priiKnpiiI Jm iii^' of Bi^rkeley; but Papworth {Or-
tUtiftfy vfliriiuhAnHorUih) and other authorities
ahow that the number ten was not uniformly
adhered to by all the Irmwheg of the house of
Berkeley, We tind **8emee of croasea" or "field
laruailly"^' (where the number is indefinite), and
other varieties, a8*Hhree,"«aix,"«8evBn," ^* eight/*
and **mne*' (Papworth, pp. 412, 413). So that
had there been only tiint at South Wrathall,it
miffht still have been a variety of Berkeley: but
I think the Vicar will tind, at his next visit to
the church, that ho has counted wrong. I had
often examined the monument, but (since reading
his communication) I examined it again, taking
with me other eyes besides my own; and we
declare ^Um crosses patt^, without a doubt."
The quarter No. 1 is damaged and indistinct ; but
the quarter No, 4 contains undeniably Uftj sue in
chief and four in base.
As to the charge on the chevron, whether Rosea,
Plates, or Fleurs-de-lys. Generally speaking', the
Berkeley chevron was plain ; but (as before stated)
the subordinate houses used distinctions. Boutell
(Memldtyj p. 172) and Papworth (p, 424) name
**rose8^*j the latter (p. 600) *^ three torteauxea*'
(which are merely plates gules). On the glass
windows of old South Wraxhall manor house,
Aubrey copied thfee varieties (see Wiitsht're Col"
l^ionif plate ii, Nos. 16 and 17; also plate lii.
No, 32) r one chevron *' plain/' another " ermine "
(for Berkeley of Botetourt, in PMmondson's Baro^
naffium, y, 40), and another char^j-ed with " three
torteauxea or plates.^' BouteU mso gives an in-
stance of "throe ileiirs-de-ivs " on the chevron of
Bericeley; so that whether they be Roses, Plates,
orFlears-de-lys on the monument, any one of them
is to be found (according to the authorities above
named) on Berkeley shields. But upon the late
careful inspection (just referred to) my companion
and myself were decidedly of opinion that the
*' charge*' was never meant for Fleurs-de-lys, nor
(as I formerly thought, and indeed once printed)
for Plates, but ceTtninly for "/?<i*ed." ThU is j iist
one of tho.^e t^enf diflicuU minutim of an old worn-
out stone which would puzzle the whole Ruyal
Society of Antiquaries itself, every member with
his beat spectacles on, to pronounce for certain
whether the thing is OUs or thtiL AH that my
fneiid and I haye to say, i>ersu$ the Vicar of
Bradford, is, that we « go in • ' for " R^aes '* I
But, there remains upon this Wraxhall monu-
ment one peculiarity (not hitherto taken notice
of, 80 far as I am aware), which, if admitted
to be correct, ouj^ht to go a long way towards
determinin;^'^ the lady^s effigy to be that of a
Berkeley. In front (see the engraying above referred
to) are I wo large lions as snpporrters, the mtisler
one inihj heimj cromted The crown is a very
clumsy one, quite overlapping the animal's head;
but its clumsmesa is the more useful as showing
(to our eyes at least) that upon the dexter lion
there has never been any crown. Now, it is
curious enough that (as may be seen in any iUua-
trated Peerage) the " supporters ^* of Berkeley are
two lions, the sinider one ortfy crtntyned, i
1 observed above that, in the family of Long of
538
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4»*S.TII.Ju2fK24/7L
CO, Wilts there h no record , nor even tradition,
of a mnrriftge ^'hh a lady of the nnmo of Berlegh
or Barley ^ Dut it ia otherwise as to Berkeley* In
& letter printed in Kiniber"tj Baronvtagt (ii, 266),
Sir Jamea Long of Brayoot©j writing in A.n. 1688,
speaks of —
** an ancestor wlio married Berfeclej-, of BeverstoOt »nd
an belresa; by whom vre qu.nrter Fitzhnrding^s coat,
now Eflrifl of Burkleji 'with didti action of tbree roeesi, on
tlie cbevt-roti, bctwect) the croasi^a pntde/'
In anpport of this tradition^ th^ arms of Berkeley
(ftccordiug to Aubrey's drawinffs) were in bia time
on the windows of South Wrasball old manor
house \ and they are etill to be seen on o tomb of
LoDg- in Di-ajcote Cerne church ; also, impaled
with Long (fet the ^'icar note tbia), mxt to a
shield of Lmi^ impahmj Fiiphum^ on a window in
lb© ball of Lacock Abbey ; nlsOp with the anna of
Long aod the '* fetter-lock** badge, on the font in
I^ri^ton chureh, near Bath, All tbia leads me to
think tbat Iho lady on tbe Wruxboll tomb must
hare b^en a Berkeley*
And why not a Berkeley of EeveTSlonej accord-
ing to the family tradition mentioned aboro in
Sir Jamea Long'a letter ? For it helpa nij notion
of the case^ to say tbat Waller Lord Hungerford,
lk,G*, Treasurer of England tmniK IIen» XL, who
according to Camden *' preft^rred ^' one of the
eaily Longs to a '*good marriage/' had himself
maiTied Eleanor, daughter of Sir John Berkeley
of this very Be vera tone (a castle, the ruins of
which are siill Remaining near Tetbviry^ co. Glou-
cester). In deeds in my po.'^^'iession relating to
this Lord Hurigerford, of a.b. HoO oud thereabouts,
I find "Itohert Long" as hm feolfee and coniiden-
tial friend, associated with Wm, Lord Botreaux,
Sir Humphrey Statr^rd, Sir John Stourton, and
others. I beheve this ** Kobcrt Long*' to bo the
earnest to whom that pedigree has been traced
with certainty. He was Mr. for ^^'ilt^ in 14^33,
and as the names of }m two wl^es t\v^\ on record,!
would suggest (and it is simply a t^uggestion) that
the county of Wilts. Lord Iluogcrfoid, the Trea
eurer, may have introduced the fatJur to Bever-
stone Castle, there to talve unto bim&elf a wife
out of the same nest of yomig ladies from which
lie had chosi?n one for himself. It may assist the
Bolution of thia obscure ^ue^tion to add, that this
U^anor Berkeley (Counteas of Arundel, and
widow of Lord lluui^erford), being sister of Sir
Maurice Berkeley of Beveratone, by her will,
A,D. 145u (Nicolas' TM. TU, p. 270), bequeathed
money to I'homas Berkeley, a younger son of ber
brother Sir Haiirice; and t&ere is a Thomas
Berkeley named in a pedigree bv Le Neve {BaH^.^
Tol i VoE Arm.) as tbe husband of *' Elij&abeth
B&j'mer/' ginnddaughter of '* Edmund aepjra.OT
Chiraler.'* These aie all the hints that I mn
supply towards the explanation of the shield on
this tomb, viz. Long impaling (aa I must maintaia)
Berkeley quartering Seymer,
Of *' sum lande bad for Long," as Leland saja»
'* Vy Hun gref orders procuration," I have one or two
notices, but not at South WraxhalL The Hun^
ger fords had nothing in South WraxhaU except
sixteen acres adjoining At worth, and an "ad vow-
son worth 5^." The first notice I hare of tha
Longs havincf land in Wraxb&ll is in the KoUs of
Parliament (iv. 407), which contain —
" 11 <fc 12 H,yi, (A.D, X433)- A Petition to the Crtwa
from tbe Abbess and Coaveat of Sliafteabury [to wliAia
Wraxb^ll belong^] and Kobert I^ng for License to Eciba-
Long to give to tho Abbesi and Uonveut Ij^nd^ worth
3C murka por annum in Attewarde, Bradefordej and Wrox-
hnU, wbich he bdd under tbe Abbess and Convent la
exchaui^e for certain other landfl and teocments in Wrtix-
bttU and Briideford ivorth ^ murks per antinin* to k
given to tbc aald Hobert Long by the Abbc^^ki ud €m^
vent tn escbflnge for ever bj tlie 'same service as be Bdd
befoF^;*
I had always supposed that the Longs, having
been tenants of Wraxhall manor under the ahbey
of Sbaftesburj^ had pat d for it at the dissolution;
but a novel idea has occurred to me, wMcb I
throw out for the condderation of the Vicar of
Bradford. He will find in HutchinB^a Don^ (1st
edit,, App. to Tol, ii, pp. BIO, 517) eeTeral notice
of proper^ belonging m tnoieiies to the mcfflsstaijr
of Shaftesbury and the Berkeley family. Is it
possible that the Berkeley s may also have hid
some moieti/ intm-eM in \Vraxhall which, by tie
maniage with a lady of the Berkeley familv, ctutf
to the Longs P If t bis point could be estftMishad,
my explanation of the South Wraxall ** difficulty'"
would stand thns; viz., That the lady wai »
Berkeley of Bevei'stone ; that the Berkelevs hi4
eome joint interest with Shaflesbury Ablwy io
the manor of Wraxhall: That Lord' Hun perfori
(from his own wife's family) had (delicat€ly)_ob-
tmned a partner for Master Long (the fafmr d
Itohert, the M.P, for Wilts, in a.j>. 1^33); vii
that, by some arrangement with the Abbevj tie
Berkeleys* joint interest in Wraxhnll wasfiuallr
S3Vtred from that of the Abbey, and became tb«
lady ^a fortune. In this way the meaning of the vny
cursory notes, both of Leland and Camden, aboat
the original rise of a well-known Wiltshire Umif
still owners of AVraxhall manor, would be m^d^
ont{ and, after four hundred years' interral, it
would, at last, appear how " Long'' was not (tfiy
** preferred to a good marriage,'' but also '* hsd wm
laude by Hungreforde^a procuration***
With the email exceptions of such tiifliaf
matters as Abury and Stonehenge, I do not Ina*
anything in WMtsbire that has tormented tbi
archEeologistB of the county more than this*' SootI
Wraxhall monument,"
\ L E. Jacksoit, Hon, Cmon of Briftot
4">S. VII, Jg^K 24,71.]
KOTES AND QUERIES.
539
PLICA POLOXICA,
(4"* 8. TiL 475.)
I now a woman euifeiing from this affection in
Berlin in 1858, and I heard a clinical lecture de-
lirored upon the case by Prof. Bareneprung, a
man of hi^U reputation. Her hair was matted
and felted together in the moat intricate manner,
and fornied a kind of natural pad or ciiahion several
inches in thickness and aymmetricallj placed upon
the top of her head, hat prcgecting be3'ond it to
a coGSiderahle distance all round. A milkmaid
would have fomid such a pad invaluable. Be-
hind, however, the hair was feathered into two
taila, one of which was three or four inches lung»
and the other perhaps ten/ Dr. Biirensprung
bade us particularly note that the hair for an inch
and a half or two inches above the scalp was not
matted together, but that for this distance everj*
individual hair was normal and free, whilst tbere
was no exudation of any kind visible, and thescidp
itw^lf presented a perfectly natural appearance.
^^ Ij» ti the hair waa taken hold of, there was no
t jiiipldat of tenderness, either in the hair itself or
io tlie jJctUp.
Br, Bhrensprung then told ua that he had re-
cently been to I'rusaian Poland for the express
porpoee of investigating the eo-called disease ;
that he had seen some hundreds of cases of it^ and
that they, one and all, had presented the same
characters as the case then before ua. Some
writers had described the Plica aa an Rfrection of
the e4!^p which furnbhed an exudation glueing
the hairs toprether, but this we had seen to he in-
correct. Others considered it to be a disease of
the hairs themselves, from whicli a glutinous
matter exuded ; but this he had never fomid to be
the case. Others, again, regardetl the pr€^^enco of
fungi as the real source of the whole mischief, but
no fimgi hod ever been discovered by him. In
Poland he bad found the general opinion to be
that thei^e wa^ an internal disease, the Plica-
polottica disease (Weicbselzopfkrankheit), of
mrhich the matted and felted state of the hair was
merely the outward and visible sign, or rather con-
jiituted the crisis. Whenever, therefore, anvbody
living in a part of Poland where the Plica wa;3
common felt a little out of sorts, het immediately
rufihed to the conclusion that he either was going
to have, or had already got, the Plica- polonica
dAsea^e. He woiUd then go to some old woman,
iiliepherd, or parson in the neighbourhood who
liad ffamed a reputation for skill in the treatment
<>f tbigaftection (for medical men in Poland seldom
• ITcnce the Cemmn name of the^ai^r«VWw)
1 \^*'"J«»a"^^<y^/; pigtail, thuut,'U it
^ « .... . .; . ,,.„ . ^"* ^*''' ^ ^*^« ^^*^^ *^ soraetime^
cJm'it'.'''* ^'"^ ^**^ -^^ ^^^ appear to suffer
cared to interfere in cases of the sort), and
would beg to be told if he had, or were likely to
have, the dreaded disease. A lock of hair (dog's
or horse's) would then be given him, with direc-
tions to wear it next hia skin, either on hb chest
or in one of hia armpits, for a certain length of
time. If the lock of hair, at the expiration of the
time, was found to have become tangled and
matted (as of course it almost invariably would
be found, in consequence of the constant friction,
and of the moisture of the piurts in which the hair
was placed) — them the patient waa declared to be
sufFeriog from the disease, and he was told ho
could nut be cured unless the disease were brought
to a crisis — in other words^ unless a Plica could
bo produced upon his head* For this purpose hia
head was kept emistanily covered up, his hair was
never cut, and sudorificji were freely administered ;
so that, Bsmight be expected, he found himself cro
long in poflsesfiion of his much-coveted Plica. But,
when he had it, it waa not long, the professor con-
tinued, before he quite aa eagerly wished to get rid
of it again, though ho but seldom gave efiect to his
wish, as he was afraid to have the mass of hair re-
moved, lest the internal disease * should return with
redoubled violence and hill hira. Dr, Bflrensprimg
had nevertheless, he said, removed the hair in
several cases without the occurrence of any ill
effects ; he had always taken the precaution, how-
ever, of cutting off the htdr little by little. If
t\m account of the disease were correct, the lec-
turer continued, it wa^ evident that the Plica
could be produced at will, and accordingly he had
succeeded in producing it in several of his hospital
patients. The means he had employed were pre-
cisely those mentioned above as adopted in Poland ;
and if the Plic4i occurred only or chiefly in Poland,
it was, he said, merely because it was only or
chiefly in Poland that" paina were taken to pro-
duce it.
In conclusion, Br, Barcnsprung observed that
we had daily before our eyes genuine instances of
Plica, although we were probably unaware that
they were such. He alluaed to the matted state
of the hair bo common in long-haired, uncared-for
dogs, and to that of the wool in sheep.
If this is the true view of the matter — and I
believe that it is the true view^how con we
account for the fact that, even by recent eminent
medical writer3,t the hair is described a^ being
glued together by a secretion exudino; from the
8caip J that the hair and scalp are said by one or
• The poticnt wham I M^ coinplained---ftl though she
had a very fine Plica, and ought to have bcc» cured— f>f a
number of achc«, pains, disagreeable sv^tiHatitrnfl and feel-
ings, which Dr. Bttrensprung obierTed might wdl be re-
ferred to hyateritt, dyepcpBia, or botli.
p/666), and lIo\m«if Skt^*^ ^^^^^^^:^^
Men % caa« oi Uio ^iae^ae*
540
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«»S.Vn. JuH»24,71.
other of these writers to become acutely sensible
and tender, and that the scalp is said to *' bleed on
the dightest touch " ? • Dr. Barensprung did not
enter upon this part of the question ; he contented
himself^with describing what he himself had seen
in hundreds of cases. My own impression, how-
ever, is that sometimes an ordinary inflammatory
affection of the scalp accompanied by exudation
(such as Eczema) comes on in a person who has
already become possessed of a Plica in the way
above described t ; or, again, that a person, already
having such an affection of the scalp, fancies he
has the Plica disease, and allows his hair to be-
come matted* In either case there would be an
exudation glueing the hairs together, and there
would be tenderness of the scalp, which would
xeadily bleed ; and yet the exudation, the tender-
ness, and the bleeding would have nothing in the
world to do with the formation of the Plica.
If I send this account of Dr. Barensprung's
viewj to " N. & Q." it is because I look upon it
rather as the record of a singular popular supersti-
tion than as the history of a real disease.
F. Chance.
Sydenham Hill.
In this disease (Pol. GwozdzieCy Qer. WeicJuel-'
zopf, Jndenzopf) the hair also is characterised by
imusual length, by becoming thickened, and by
loss of lustre. The disease is not conflned to the
scalp.
•*The hair loses its lustre, and appears thickened,
softened, or distended by a glutinous lluid of a reddish oi
brownish colour The hair is matted or aggluti-
nated in different wa3'S — sometimes in single locks of
various thickness and length, resembling ropes
Occasionally the hair is stuck together in one mass or
cue. In other instances it is felted into a mass or cake
of various sizes The hair often accinires a great
length. Instances of its reaching the length of some
yards have been adduced." (Copeland.)
It occurs principally in Warsaw, Cracow, and
Landomir ; most fre(niently on the banks of the
Vistula and Dnieper. It is also found in Lithuania,
Volhynia, the Lki-aine, Tartary, and Hungary;
but is very rare in France, Germany, Ilolland, and
Switzerland. There are two cases of plica polo-
nica in England ; the first in the middle ot the
last century, the last (discovered by Dr. 13eigil) in
18G6. A memoir of these is recorded in Philoso-
phical Transactions, May 28, 1714, and in Trmi-
• That the hair itself becomes fleshy and bleeds when
cut, as mentioned by G. E., may, I think, bo dismissed at
once as a popular exaggeration.
t The process adopted for the formation of the Plica
'Would, I think, have a tendency to produce such a skin
disease. '
X This view has never, I believe, appeared in print,
for Dr. BUrensprung died very shortly — I think withiti
4 .rear— after the delivery of this lecture of his. I took
cophuB notes at the time, and it is from Uiese noVsa Oaax
/ bare drawa up the above suraniary.
sa(^ian8 of Pathological Socidy, toL zvii. I doubt
much whether any one of the diseases of the hah
mentioned by Qalen is represented by plica polomcai
In this disease I have seen several specimens of
hair in which the whole growth (adhered together)
has been removed entire. B. S. Chasvogx.
Gray's Inn.
THE TOADSTONE.
(P^ S. TiL 324, 899, 484.)
Aji account of the toadstone, its genentioo^
nature, and properties, will be found^ under its
Latin appellation — Bufoniits lapis — or its vaiioai
synonyms in most of the old treatises De Gemmii
et Lapidibus, The following passages are inteTMt>
In gin themselves, and may save M. S. C. the time
and trouble of seeking for rare and unfindaUe
books : —
*' Borax, Nosa, Crapondinas, are avnonymoiu namci of
the same stone, which is extracted ntmi a toad, of whki
tbex6 arc two spedea— the white, which is the hestyaad
rarely found ; the other ia Uack or don, with a esm-
leiin glow, having in the middle the similitude of an 9ft,
and must be taken out while the dead toad ia yet pant-
ing, and these are better than those that are extiiwted
ffom it after a long continuance in the giocind. TVj
have a wonderful efficacy ia poiaona. For whoever kai
tuken poison, let him swallow this; which b^ii£[do«B»
rolls about the bowels, and drives out every 'potfoiMMi
quality that is lodged in the intestines ; and then paaM
thro' the fundament and is preserv'd. It is an exoBlksi
remedy for the bites of reptiles, and takes awmy fenB>
If it be made into a lotion and taken, it ia a great hdp
in disorders of the stomach and reins ; and some sa^ it lutf
the same effect if carried about one." — The 3/inw of
Stones, &rc., by Camillus Leonardus, M.D. London, ^
1750, p.'77.
I transcribe another account from the c\xAm
English translation of the I7taufnatogranhta 3V
iHralis of Johannes Jonstonus^ a Polish pbjd-
cian : —
'^ Toads produce a stone ; with their own image iobm-
times. It never grows but in those that are veiyoU.
Libav. 1. 3. singul. In the familv of LemmuM there is
one kept that is greater than a hnzel nut. Lemmm ir
occtdt. 1. 2. c. 30. It ia proved to dissolve tamoois tbit
arise from bitings of venomous beasts, if you mb it «b
often. The Lapis Bufonitu, called GraterianOy the Swete
ebronicles write of it, it weighed 5 physicall pounds nfl
a ounces, 2 drams lesse ; Crahius Annal. Sueric L 11
p. 3, c. 87. The words arc these : — * After the joyfWI
birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Vircin iluy, tbe
Mother of God, anno 1473 ; after the birth of St i(^
the 27 of June, Berchtoldus Gratterus, dwelling then tf
llopstach, in the afternoon went into a wood, which tkr
call the Yale of Dipachifi, to cut poles to make hoop f*
vessells. In that place he heard a hissing and a gnt^
noise by a river in that valley, and when he stood a ftff
off to see what the matter was, he aaw an incredible htfp
of serpents and vipers, and toads lying twined to^^'
As nere as he could conjecture, it was a neater ^^^ i
than a great waahmg tub conld contain, ue was fif^jttj j
and durst go no neerer, yet he cat a bongh, and mtiW
I \.Vi^^Wi& there in the confines ; that day he canw t*ic|
\ \^<!»:^ «sA\^^^ ^^ ^»q:^^3iU&1a of serpentSy uA *
4»awVn. jOTn!S4.7i.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
641
fonnd them all, ttltmottt to^Llier upon a heap : wherefore
b« left ihom amt went homci, concefilinjc; tho matter for
tijree J^tye?* ; when he rLtumed to the wooij, he fuimd that
thoMi wati-'r snakes wore gon, aad nono of th(is«^ venomous
creatures were leflt, bat onljr one toad that waa killed, and
a fnnkf* m a w!iit<? ^iQtenous bumoar, and thick, Bhiuing
K a neere to it, that toadatone^ Bu-
up^ aud wiped it, and carrietl it
V, . •-.. ..J , „. ( „i^ it for some farther profit* But
jxiiei t ii4t GrAtterus came into tha town (about a 100 j'earea
since), the stono waa used aQccesfully, for a mail and
btAft» A* it folio wes. The eldast bo ace of the hoti^ of Grat-
••BBftiM keept thia toadstono, and he will not lend it^
especially to strangers, under a pawn of 50 or lOQ Urers/
^st the other vcrtuca it is observed that it hath
. roat force againat maUgnaBl tamiooia, that are
v^itfuioua. Cbolenok,oreiiaipe[jia,apOBtemB, and bubos^
mod for oait«l that are bewitched. They are used to heat
it la a bag« and to lay it hot without anythiop;' between to
the naked Iwdy, and to nib the affected place with it*
'The3" Fay it prevails a^jaiost inchantmenta of witchea,
^Mpecialij for great bt^Uiad women and children bewitched.
Bo aoon At you apply it to one bowitched* it sweats many
dtofM. In the plague it ii laid to the heart to strengthen
it. It draws poyaon out of the heart, and out of carbun-
cles and i>estilemt sore?. It consuznei, dissipates, and
softenfl all hardnesse, tumours, and TArices,**— An If itttoty
of the H^ontlerfnl Things of Aufwrr, Art'. Rendttd into
Etiijluh l>r/ n Pentm of Quaiitt^, fol,, London^ 1657,
p. 115.
Aiiotlier pliyiician of the same period — ^an esprit
fort in his way — ^was not satisfied with hearsay,
bat dared put the matter to the test of actual ob-
eeTYfttioti and experiment. This is bis account: —
■ ' rrc de crnpaut que qnclqueji-rns appdlent
nite, batrachitc, ou era pau dine, du mot
itjt. et les autrea garatroine^ mi appelltf« par
''•nttcin. Car c*e9t vn bruit vulgaire,
Hi liora par des vieux crapauts i quoy
^.u.v^^ -aliment quo c*eu est Ic crane. Je roe
mmv^atSf lors que j'estois enfant, d'auoir prix vn vieux
cra^aut, et rauoir mis sur vu drnp rouge, afBn de pouuotr
auoir oestepierre : (csrron racontequ'tl nc rend point aa
pierre, qtt« Ion qu'il est repose' «ar vn drap rouge,) tusis
apria anoir obsent4< toute la nukt, le crapaut no jetta
naiy et depuis oe teinps-lk, i*ay ton^ours creii pour badi-
Deries tout c© que Ton racontc de la pierro de crapaut et
4e son originc. 11 me aernble qu'oti la pt^t rapporter
ixnnsnodement cntre la pierre stellarfs plu^i olisoure :
(«aj- elle a de«i taehei obscures, et la coutcur ile ta pierrc
atellaris, *i ce nVat que sa cotileur cendr^ et grise retire
tUT le Toti[|:p). I'lk* e*t <'onii**X' commo itn eeil, et de I'autre
Cioat^cl; I lita-vn nppellent
^StUi^I^ii i oinbria/* — Le
Pttrfkk* t . , .- i^... ,, ..,., , .. . . i,r;M» ii'Ct Com-
p«»# par Anaeime Bo#ee de Boot, tfvo* A Lroo, 1G44,
See also a loog account of the etone in Jonnrjis
De Laet De Oammis el Lftpidihm libri fluo, ^r,,
3ro, Lup:d. Bat. 1047* This writer conaiders that
Boetiri/? ( De Boot) has wrongfully confounded the
** ' ■ ' with the ** garatronium,'* lie adds ;
tn illius virtutem pncdicat contra vertigi-
p 81 parti dolcnli appHcetur, uut brachio:
»* rtam, contra pleuritidem, deliquta antml at
tTi * ' uit me Vir Nobilisaiinua Wilhcl-
fi' '■ mi Regis Mag, Britao, res agens
^J iinoa D.D. Ordines gcaerales Cou-
I
fa^derati Bdgii, hanc g^mmam si ardenti Canddfle pro*
plus ohjiciatur, cam senaim extiuguere, quod iMjpias
fuerit expertup, scd ;;;emmam paulatim nonnihil corrumpi
et vcluti rugaa conlrabere."— p. 09.
Mao J similar passages might be transcri1>ed,
the authors often doing little more than citing or
referring to the statements of their predecesaora.
I mav", however, before concluding, summon a
Danisli physician to gi\^e us the i^eault? of that
rare and dilHciilt process, especially where the
marvellous is concerned — personal observation : —
**BufoDias Lapis, ab aliis CI ' ' '" "' 't
Crapaudina vocatur; Germans ] i
fert ab antiquis bnfonibus enii i . , . i ::i
falsum e^e tL>enit Anshelmo Bo^tiou Buot. . . , Nasci-
tur fungi insiar in saxis et pctris, non ver5 in capltibus
hufonuin, ut vul^i credunt.
•* ComnjcndiUnr ad tiiraorca et inflationes h veneiiatis
animalibus ilbta,", quas eontactu et adfrictn discntit^
cujus exempluni in contubcmali vidi, qui cum inter alias
plantas Esulsm majoreni colh^iwet, ac inter eradtcan*
dum auc4;u ' ItN adhttsissct, quibus iocaute faciem
fricuit ; t fit ad ni iracu) urn usque, sed petito
annulo n^ jii lapidcm hunc tenebat, et loco
tumido aliquutie^ ailricto, intra horam detumuit indatio.
Praaeote veueno sudare et colorem mutare ferunt, quo-
circa contra venena ejus pulvis exhibetur. C^Jutra cal-
calofi vtm habere insagnan existimantt aUeo ut eunt
g«nerari non pcrmittaU* — jlTiisettJA Wormummn^ »eu HU-
tQria Rervm Ittiriontm, &fc^ ab Olao Worui, Mod. DocU 4c,
folio. Amstd. (sput L. and D. Elzevirios), 1655^ p> 107*)
But the possessor of the 'Hoadstoiie ring'*
seems somewhat dubious as to the nature and
yahie of his gem, and may wish to be assured of
its genuineness— for belief is a jrreat thing in these
matters— before he invokes its virtues to pre vent the
formation of calculits, to dissipate a tumour, or to
" give forewarning against venom." An old writer,
copying from others still older, indicates the means
by which the character of the stone may be settled
beyond question, and which your correspondent
will have no dilHculty in putting into requisition r —
" You shall know whether the tode-stonn be the right _
and perfect stone or nol. Hold the atone before a tod<| ~
so that he may see it» an<l if it be a right and true ston
the totle will leap toward it, and make as thuti;j:h he would ^
snatch it. Ilecnvicth io mndi that miin should have that
stone." — A Thmannd NftiuUe ThinffM, by T. Lupton, Ito.
Loudon, 15dG, book i*
I need not remind H. 8. €. that the stone in
his ring is that *' precious jewel," which, worn in
the head of the ** ugly and venomous toad," is
used by Shakespeare {As You Like It, Act II,
Sc. 1) as an apt symbol of the sweetness of ** the
uses of adversity." The analogy is unfortunatel^J
not based on scientific truth. lu an amusing littU^
work the Rev, R. H. Newell remarks upon tbk
paaaage: —
"The stone diftinguijdied hv th? nimii of the rep^je-
and called Ti^d-itone^ Crapandinft KfottmtUin, has b""^
diiKHjvertHl to be nothini? but the fomii tooth of the I
wolf, or some flat-toothccl fish not ttiif«wvi«^ ^J?!^.
iatand, as w«ll 7& *e^<ixiil tfCtwei ^ywsssSjfwft- — T\^* l4BKWS(«ft
842
NOTES AXD QUERIES.
r*<»S.Yri.JiwisS4.7
1
4*fth* Eftgluh Foett correcttd by the Writingt of Modem
il^aiuralUUt imall 8yo, London, IB45, p. 130.
See also on the samo poiat Pennaafa Brituh
Zoology^ iii. 16*
Some further remarlcs upon the «mpo^ed virtues
of the toadstone will be found in The History and
Poetry of Finger Rimjs^ by Charles Edwards, 8vo,
Rediield (U.S.), 1866, p. 107.
William Bates, B*A,
Biniiiiigbain*
PROPnECIES BV XOSTRADAMUS AND OTEEEES
ON THE FALL OF PARIS.
(^^ S. vi. 32-1, 370, 390, 500,)
The Bubject of French popular prophedea of
impending national calamities remains etill un-
exhaufited, although there has been a good deal
of writing about it of late. If I mistake not, the
first reference to it in ** N. k Q." bore my signa-
ture. My attention was attracted to the subject
by a little brochure which I picked up on a six-
penny stall here in Melbourne. The title of tbia
volume, which is obviously a pedlar'a chap-book,
**Le Livre de toutei lea Proph^tics et Pr^Uctioni,
Pass^— Prtfsent— 0t Avenir, (4fmff ^). Consid^mble-
incut nugment^e, et suivie dune Lcttre sur la rroximiti?
de In Fin du Monde, par M. le Chaaoinc RdmuMtf at de
la Pri^ de Pie IX Paris, 18 19."
Peihapa a brief account of thia curious little
budget of oracles may be of some interest io your
readers.
The collection ranges from Istoah's prophecy
a^nst Jerusalem (chap. ixiL) down to the pre-
dictions of the seers of the revolutionary year
1848, All the best-known oracular utterances of
these latter days — ^such as those of Oazotte, Sla-
dame Lenormand, the Nun of Blois, La6j Hester
Stanhope, and Chateauhiiand^are included ; and
taken aa a whole, and read by the light of recent
events, it is impossible to deny that there is n
atrange reality and an arresting intereflt in the
littleoook. Take the prophecy from Isaiah, for
example. In our English version the title of
chapter xxii. is "The Burden of the Valley of
Vimon," and it is quoted with an obvious sub-re-
ference to the coming doom of the proud and gny
capital of France. In your last volume (p. 540),
Mi, Q. A, Sala has shown how slrikinglv the
predictions contaioed in the sixth chapter of Jere-
miah would apply to the siege of Faris by the
Pnisaana ; but there is a still more remarkaWe
coincidence of statement in Isaiah's prophecy of
the sack and fall of ** tbe tumultuous city, the
joyous city,** whose ** rulers are all lied together,**
snd of which *' the houses have been broken
down to fortify the wall,*' Another remarkable
circumstance which the book presents is that,
though it has been evidently compiled for popular I
drctuation in France, it everywhere predicts the I
decline of the national glory ^"-^ i^ ■
empire. This is exactly the
would be sure to find in a^ri .
oracles. Thus, the fall of the i
Church is indicated in these ttn
the Ninth there shall be ten
each indicated by a Latin sy i
and then —
»* In peraecuUone extrcma Ronuno! Ecclcflfl!
Petrns Horn an us, qui piAcet oves in r
buii, qiiibos transacti^* civitos aepti
judex tremendns judicabit populum.
Again, Jean de Vatiguerro in the
century predicts ** the spoliation, devHstali
pUlage of that most famous city which
capital and nustress of the whole king *
France.'* At the same time, *' toute r£glS
tout l^univers, s^Sra person t^ d'line ma
men table et douloureuse, et i^ra d^pottl
privde de tons ses biens temporeb.** T*"
of the Church, moreover, is to, change
dence, and (this is striking) *^ I'Kgli^e n-aumf
de d^fenseur pendant vingt-cinq mois et plajy
parce <jue pendant tout ce temps, il n'j ftun m
fape m empereur a Rome, ni regent en Ttnxus^^
t is specially mentioned that ''Lcaraino ikaB
shudder over her spoliation, and Ohampagne ifail
be pillaged wid devastated." But, when all the»
calamities shall be overpast, " a young captin
prince shall recover the crown of the liliea, and
shall extend his dominion oyer aU the umTena
Once established, he shall destroy the
Brutus and their isle, so that their' memo ^
pass into everlasting forgetfulnees "' — an erili
lor England*
This young prince, who is to delivifir
from her uttermost depths of tribulation, m^
pears in very many of these prophecies. In •etem
of them he appears as the last remaining mem of
the ** vieil sang de la Cap," which would seem
to point to a restoration of the Bourbons.
Madame Lenormand, the seeress of the
Nnpoleon*8 days, predicted in *' '
guage the utter destruction «
tbage, modem Babylon, the :■
It should fall a prey to " ;
whom its cowardice and indilici^ia
more resolute to ruin it ; and thr
that Paris, destroyed hy forei^^n '^'
temal dissensions, would fall
" narrow limits of the agea of
The general tenor of the i
same cast, and the last imi
mind of the reader of the U' k
plusage of undesigned errnr all
always in the world a Ini
spired but perfectly auii
however, only after its fuUiluLen; Uia.1 any ^tq<
phecy can be proved genuine. D. Hlais-i]
Melboarne.
tmiTena
re mtoi
^
i^^iA
NOTES AND QUERIES.
{4^ S. Tii. 428.)
Thh quaint and liamorotia ditty was formerly
very po^mlar in South Laacoshire and in Cbe«hire.
Even atill it is frequently sung^ by farmers' sons
and daughters whilst driving- in springs carta on
Sic-nic excursions to Dunham Park, Rostheme
Teer, Belle Vue, &c. Indeed, only sjk few months
ago 1 saw a gentleman make hia d{'htU before a
Weat-Riding^ Yorkshire, audience at a " Penny
Rl^g/' singing this song to the best of his
■^4 So uiorough waa the appreciation and
^' the laughter at song and ainger, one or
hj that he declared he would never appear in
public Again, The South Lancashire veri^ion is
much like the one given by Mr. Morris, allowing
for the diflorence of dialect, except that the anxious
mother advises him to ** put on hia fine clothes
wad hia new yeUow hose/' in order to captivate
tBe afTections of the fair sex. But the Cheshire
TersioD^ obtained from Nantwich seventeen years
ftgo, which I give verbatimj is by far the best I
bare seen. It is entitled —
"Robin in ttarth of a Wife,
**' I am thee mother, and thee art ray son,
Come listen to pftrent's advice,
Put on thy bc«t clolhfia and thy mvcai yellow hoaa,
Ao^l go out and seek thee a wife— thee must !
Aye thee must, sure th«e mtast,
Go out and e«ek thcc a wif(>— thee must ! *
•* So Robin be put on his holiday dothea.
Which were neither tatter'd nor torn,
HiA iwc^t yellow hose, as well as bU clothes ;
Be looked Uke a gentleman bom — he did I
Ave he did, eitre he did,
He looked like a getitlemau bom^-he did i
** He had not gone aJoag very far.
When he met a farmer's fat daughter called Grace ;
He had ooly just aj^ken but two or three words.
When she hit him a slnp in the face — she did !
Aye she did, sure she did.
She hit him a alap in the face— she did !
•< As ItobiD was walking the street one day,
Ttiinking of nothing but folks.
He hAppened to kiss the wife of a priest ;
She had him put into the stocks— she did I
Aye she did, sure she did, '
She had him put into the stodcs-^he did t
•• Now Robin sat sobbing and aiKhlng fuU sore.
And kicked up a terrible bother ;
• If this ia the way the men get their wives,
ni go home and live with my mother— 1 will 1
Aye I will, sure 1 will,
m go home and live \i'ith my mother— I will ! '
** So come take down the tabor, and play us a tune,
And take down the meal from the ihelf.
For we shall have muBic and dancioig in fuJl^
For Robin's a man of himself—hels I
Aye he is, sure he 14,
For Robin's a man of hunself— be is !
•♦ • I'll tell thee now, mother^ it's no such nice thing,
I was never more shamed in my life j
IVe spoiled my best clothes and my sweet yellow hose.
And 111 never more seek for a wife — I won't !
No I won't, sure I won*t I
I'll never more seek for a wife— I wonH I * "
John Hiqsou
Lees, near OUham.
KIPPEK.
(4^'^ S. vii. 4090
Our lexicographers have been singularly unfor-
tunate in their treatment of a class of words
closely allied to l-ipper. The idea of something
crooked, or something turned suddenly or sticking
out abruptly from a normal direction, is common
to the whole class. Thus we have, from the form
of the things named^ gibhet fiXi^jib-hmtm ; and to
Jihe^ from the action of a horse or boat in starting
aside from a direct course. On both sides of the
common border of England and Scotland, a cow
with a crooked horn, that is, with a horn abruptly
bent upwards or downwards, is called a hppit
cow; the tumed-up plate of a man's shoe is a
htppit toe-plate ; a tumed-un nose a kippit nose,
&c. A stick with a turned handle is always a
" dbby " stick,
Ilalliwell gives gib-fieh as the name of the milter
of the salmon in the North. Jamieaon {Eti^m,
Diet, of Scot iMng, SuppL) says gib (g hard) is
used m Et trick Forest to denote the beak or
hooked upper lip of the male salmon*
I think, then, it may bo fairly concluded that
the word ktpptr h only a corrupt form of gibhr.
A kipper salmon is a salmon with a Jcippit nose.
Those who know how the word kipjier is pro-'
ootmced in Scotland will recognise it in the fol-
lowing verse, which I have met with in Watson's
Choice C&Uedum of Ct^mic and Seriom Scots Poettis
Qjm, 1700, /7ll), in a description of ** The
Blythesome Wedding," which ia said to be *' the
first of the sangs of the Lowlands to bo met with
in print ** : —
** And there will be sow-libber Peottie,
and plouckie-fjic't Watt i^ the Mill j
Cap per- nosed Gib hie & Francie,
that wins i* the howe 0' the hill."
Though Jamieaon failed to see the true mea
of the word kipjk^r, his explanation of it contaiiii"^
matter of interest, lie says (Supplement) : —
" Eiifper originally denoted salmon in the state of
spaNvnia^, and was synoaymous with * reid fische.' "
The title of an Act of 7ames IV. (1503), c. 72,
ia <* of slauchter of redde fish, or kip per. '^
Skinner thinks the word denotes youngr salmon,
or fry, from Belg. kippm = to hatch. Kipper ier
properly the name given to the male fish ; tho
female is called a roan, or roaner, on the Border.
We read in Acts, Hen* VU» c. 21, ** That no person
take and kyl any salmons or trowtesnot heymg in
seaeon^ being kepper salmons, or kepper txowtes^
544
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t^tJ-S-VII. Jux«24,7L
eliedder salmons, or shedder trowtes"; and in
Eot Pari 60 Edward III. (Cowel), '* that no
salmon be taken between Gravesend and Henley-
upon-Thames in kipper-time, tiz. between the In-
vention of the Cross (3 Mar) and the Epiphany."
TnoMAS DoBSON, B.A.
Kipper, according to Webster, is '^ a term ap-
plied to salmon when 'unfit to be taken, and to
the time when they are so considered." Kip-
pered salmon are —
"Salmon split open, salted, and dried. The word
IdpperttX. first denoted a fish immediately after the spawn-
ing season ; and as such fish are not cobd for food whUe
frtth, they were usually cured and hung up. Whence
the word properly denoting a spawning salmon came to
mean a salted and dried salmou." — Jamieson's Scot. Diet
Dr. J. further suggests that the word kijyper
may literally mean ** beaked " £sh from the Scotch
word kipf a hook, a jutting point ; and I suppose
that thus construed the name expresses the ap-
pearance of the fish out of season.
It is hardly likely that this word has any con-
nection with the English word *' keeper."
D. B.
Paisley.
Kipe (from the Saxon Cypa)^
''A basket or engine made of osiers, broad at the end,
and narrower by degrees, nsed in Oxfordshire and other
parts of England for the taking of fish, and fishing with
those engines is called kipping. Wo read that no salmon
flball be taken between Gravesend and Henley-upon-
Thames in kipper time, viz. between the 3rd of iiay and
the Epiphany. Rot. Pari, 60 Ed. III." (Jacob's Lax
Diet.)
G. M. T.
THE DUKE OF BUCKINGHAM'S MOTHER.
(4"» S. Tii. 4C9.)
It has lonff been reckoned amongst the ex-
ploded scandals of history that this brilliant and
accomplished countess, who played so prominent
a part in the court of James L, was originally
a kitchenmaid of mean descent. This absurd story
has lately been reproduced by Mr. Ilepwortn
Dixon with so many circumstimtial details with-
out a shadow of foundation, that one is almost
afraid of correcting one of the blunders in his nar-
rative, for fear of being supposed to acquiesce in
the rest. Those who write on historical subjects
in the spirit of the song at the music halls, "that
every dodge is fair which will make a good sensa-
tion," scarcely deserve serious refutation. The
pedigrees of Villiers and Beaumont in the third
volume of Nichols's Leicestershire are incom-
plete and require some corrections; but the parent-
age of Anthony Beaumont, the father of the
xsountess, appears in the Visitation of Leicester-
sbiieaflOlS.
Mb. Gabdineb is mistaken in supposing that
there is any doubt about the marriage of Lady
Villiers to Sir William Reyner; for the marria^
took place at Qoadby on Jane 19, 1606, and is
dul^ recorded in the parish register. Peck, the
antiquaiy, extracted from the Goadby r^isten
all tne entries of the Villiers family, and they
were reprinted by Nichols (voL ii. p. 196). The
following extract from these registers supplies wk
amusing illustration of Mr. Dixon^s recklessness cf
statement : —
« 1607, April 8. Sir William fielding sad Mrs. SoM
Villitts married.*'
It is clear from this entry that Snsan Mllien
married Sir William Fielding, one of the prindpil
knights in Leicestershire, and afterwards Esn <tf
Denbigh, in the next year after the death of her
father, Sir George Villiers, and some time before
her mother mamed her third husband. Sir Thomsa
Compton. But what does Mr. Hepworth Dixon
say about it l* —
<< A *litt]A man, a dmnkard, and a fooV Sir Thooafl
Compton 'tras the butt of his county, and the makesport
of his village green. But what were such thuigs to a
parent with her four small children — John, George, Kit,
and Susanj to feed and clothe ? She knew that he was
rich, and that was enough for her."
I should like to know, by the bye, what evideaca
there is of the gre-at riches of Sir Thomas Compton.
TSWAXS.
Since my note was written, I have found evi-
I denceof the second marriage of Lady MUieis. Ins
pedigree (State Papers, Domestic, xc 10), which w
proved by internal evidence to have been drawn
up as early as 1017, Buckingham's mother is said
to have been married the second time to Sir W.
Ranger. There are other misspellings in the
pedigree, so that the name may be identical with
Sir vV. Reyner. If it is, she must have married
very soon after her husband's death, and the
name "Maria Villiers" in the list referred to
must have been left uncorrected. As she had no
special bequest in SirW. Reyner's will, she nnat,
if he is the husband in question, have been en-
titled to her dower out of his lands — another
argument against her extreme poverty.
I would tfJre this opportunity of pointing oat
two misprints or miswntmgs in my note at p. 47(X
In the pedigree there should be, of course, no
I horizontal line connecting Nicholas Beaumont
] with Mary Beaumont ; and the date at whidi^
George Villiers was siud to be fourteen yeeis »
more is Nov. 23, not Nov. 8, 1661.
S. B. GabdiA
J
4«^S.V1I. Jujne 24,71.3
NOTES AND QUERIES.
545
SONNET QUERIES.
(4**' S. Tii 456.)
J Mr, Botjciuer will find the soonet on the Kil©
' isL The Life and Letters of KvaU, by K« Moncktou
BClnea (Moxon, 1848), L 90. In a letter to lik
bi^Dthera from nampstead, Feb, 16^ 1818, Keats
writes: "The WeoDesday before last, Shelley,
Hunt, and I each wrote a aonnet on tlie river
NUe." The aonnets of Shelley and Hunt are well
Jmown as magnificent specimens of their clti^ of
poetry. Keats', which was certidnlr lea^t suc-
eeaaful of the tliree, and ia not included in bis
^oemsj runs aa follows i —
** TO THK NILK.
** Son of the old moon-motiataina Africau*
Strenm of the P\Tamid and eroctxiil?? !
Wc call Xhm fruitful, and tlmt ver>' whUe
A desert lilU oar sceiog's inward span :
Knrve of swart nattoDS since the world began,
All thou to fruitful ? or doat thou beguile
Tliose men to honour thee, who worn with toil,
Host them a space 'twixt Cairo and Decan ?
O mjiy dxak fanctea err 1 They Hurely do \
Tifl WDoranoe that makea a barren waste
or alibeyond itself. Thou dost bedew
Greun rushes like our rivers, and dost taste
The pleoaajit sun-rise. Green islea hajt thou too,
And to the jiea aa liappily dost haste.'*
This would seem to have been not the unique
utfttaoce of a poetical tournament of the kind
lietween these highly-gifted men. Both Leigb
Hoat and Keats wrote a sonnet each on the graas^
liopper and cricket ; Leigh Hunt's beginning : —
'* Green little yaulLer in the sunny gtass,** —
ftnd Keats' —
** The poetry of earth is never dead-"
I quite a^ee with Mtt. BoucnTEE that Mr.
Boesetti'a version of the line from the Adomm of
Slielley is a mistake. The emphasis belongs to
the word *^wild," not to the coirj unction "And."
G. J. De WtLDE.
Mh. Joit^TEAN BoFOHiER questJoDS the cor-
rectness, as regards rhythm, of Mr, Kossetti's
alteration of around to round. In defence of 3Ir,
IRosaetti's reading:, if it requires any, in the fii-st
place I beg It^ave to say that this accomplished
editor has a precedent in earlier editions* I have
one, published by Milner ajid Soweiby, giving the
line in question the same as Mr. Kossetti. And in
HhB second instance, I cannot iwi'ee with Mb.
B^UCHiEB in his correction, and I do it with the
less reluctance, as Mb. Bouchxeb ia so far unde-
cided himself as to ask other opinbns. The line
in debate is a most perfect Alexandrine; and
throughout the whole poem SheUey has preserved
the close of his stamtaa unvaried by increase or
decrease of syllables, If a had been prefixed to
roundt it would have been an exception; and I
eftimot help thinking, with due deference to Me.
BoucittEB, an uopleasing one. The emphasis on
** And," as the line now nms, is slight, and its
weight is on the " wild winds,'' then on the paose
at round; the first syllable of the second member
of the verso answers^ but with a much stronger
accent, to the ♦* And " of the first Thus it runs : —
" And the wild tmnds flew round, fobh'mQ iu their ilhmnyj*
It is the only instance in the elegy of two
monosyllables eounded long coming together —
^'wild winds/' and the auperfiuous a to rotmd^
would to my ear be very inharmonious.
J. A, G.
Carisbrooke.
GERMAN LUTEERAN CHURCH, DUBLm*
(S'** S, X. 302, 4B40
By- the kindness of a friend I have been lately
furnished with a copy of the following document,
which, us I have oeen informed, has never ap-
peared in print, and which, unless I am mistaken,
will be deemed interesting by many of your
readers : —
**-i Short Statement of the German Church and
Conffregfation,
" It was about the ^^ear 1698 that a Mr, Lichtenstein
came to Dublin to try if he could find a congregation of
Germans. He sneeeeded in collecting a small number,
who agreed to receive him as their mini»teri and pay him
n salary by voluntary subscnjitiou ; but as the mo;ii of
them were poor, they were notable to give him as much
as was neoeeaary to anpport hims&If and fomily. Mn
Lichtenatein offered to go to Londou and the Continent,
and trj^ to raise flubscriptiona, which he did ; and rccoivod
a good doal, which \vm afterwards applied to the buLklbng
of tbts church and dwelling- ho use for the minister in
Poolbeg-street. In the year 1706 a ^Ir. Kellinghmcn
succeeded him ; and under his dirwrting the church and
houAc wero built about the year 1725. It appears that
about thia lime ho got a yearly fprant from the King by
royal patent, which was renewed to his suceesson^ bat
was never granted by Parliament or the Irish Govern*
ment* Aa oefora stated, the congregation ha« bean con-
thiuallv small, and most of them poor : only one or two
were a6le to contribute for the upholding the church and
ministry; of which wa« a Mr. Felster, who oontribated
liberally nearly fifty years, and at last left In hh wUl
b^\}L for the poor of the German church ; by whidi he
could not mean only what arc called paupers, but the
poor who attended the church service, but could coatri^
bate very little for upholding It. The fore- mentioned
bequest oame to the church in the year 1 770, when a
Mr. Molkrwaa minister; who had also been appointed
hv atr. Febter executor, to act after the death of Mra.
Felst^r, which happened in 1769. From that time the
interest of saiJ money baa been used by minister and
churchwarden, as it haa been wanted, for charity and
upholding said church. In the year 1806 I was a[»pointed
minister, and vtas promised 100/, salarj' per year, aa thoge
was no one who would enijage for less. This same
should be made up in the following way t that h tJ> say,
fitW* from Government, the other by ^ -i ; and
what was wanting should be added tV est ol
said money. This was kept up until Ii^ ! , ru that
time the contribution ceased, as most of th« cotigregation
had died, and no now uettlers did come; so that I could
not receive my full salary any more, only what came
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4««'S.VII. Ju»b24*»7L
from Goyernment and the interest. I had also from this I
to keep the charch and house in repair; by which, if I
bhonld be paid, there woald not be sufficient, if I should
get the whole of said 500/. ; but I do not claim it, and
wish not to deprive the church of it ; only I have taken a
loan of it, to finish some houses belonging to my family."
Appended to this document there is a note to
the tcmowing effect : —
*• This is my father's own writing. I have only to add,
that when the other grants to charities from Government
were stopped, my father's salary was likewise withdrawn.
— C. M. Shulze."
Abhba.
Ancient Riddles (4*»» S. viL 514) — The
answer to the first riddle is certainly the moon^ as
sug^ted. The second is rather a prophecy than
a nddle. and refers to the overthrow, soon after
the Reiormation, of the celebrated ''Rood of
Chefiter,"'formerly a favourite object of pilgrimage.
This cross, mentioned in Piers the Plovnnany pass. y.
L 469 (B text), stood beside the "sacred Dee,"
as Tennyson calls it, in a spot to which it gave
the name of Rood-eye or cross-island, now cor-
rupted into Roodee in the attempt to assimilate
the latter part of the word to the name of the
river. The prophecy merely asserts the downfall
of this cross, and was probably written soon after
the event. Walter W. Skeat.
1, Cintra Terrace, Cambridge.
Sun-dial Inscbiptions (4**" S. \ij. 255, 877,
622.) — At Middleburg, the capital of Zealand,
in the island of Flushing, there is a fine old town-
hall, built 1408 by Charles the IJold, ornamented
with twenty-five colossal statues of coimts and
countesses of Flanders. Above the face of the
clock affixed to this building there is the inscrip-
tion—
" Prietcreunt et imputantur."
No doubt " Periunt et imputantur" already quoted
In " N. & Q." is to be preferred.
It has struck me that part of the tenth verse of
the ninetieth psalm might form another solemn
inscription for a clock or sun-dial—
" Soon passeth it away, and we arc gone " ;
or—
" Irrevocable I Irreparable."
Round the clock at Keir House, near Dunblane,
the seat of Sir William Stirling Maxwell, the fol-
lowing striking inscription appears : —
" Hours ani Time's shafts, and one comes winged with
death."
R. B. S.
John Dyer (4»»> S. vii. 232, 353, 443, 524.)—
Mr. Jackson knows the old proverb, that '' two
blacks don't make a white,'' and it is needless to
bring forward instances of bad grammar in Shake-
speare, Pope, and Byron to excuse the same faults
in Dyer. If he had written such poetry as theirs
we might pardon him a slip in grammar now and
iheu} hut — to quote another vulgar ada^e— "^i..
J4GKB0N ''falls out of the fiying-pan into the
£ie " in suggesting an amendment or Dyer's Tezb.
'' Thou who Um " would be just as bad as '' thoa
who he:'
As for the linnet, of course Dyer used the WQid
yeUaw as an epithet without any intention ci oni-
thologicall^ distinguishing the bird from the gieen
or brown land. The twittering of the linnet sug-
gests nothing poetical or pensive, in harmony with
the ''purple evening," and tiie bird^ being an
early rooster, does not sing at that tune at alL
Ana now I tnink we had better let poor Dyer zeit
In his obscurity. Jatdek.
EooD Screens dt Suffolk CnrBCHBS (4* 8.
vii. 148, 267, 610.)— Allow me to remind Mb.
Marsh with regard to his kindly-intended con-
tribution, that it will be most desirable (as indeed
he vrill have learned from the endless controveifly
on the unhappily destroyed Starston fresco, the
original copy of which is now known to be of
doubtful accuracy) to wrify the statements and
inscriptions sent to him before printing them, siooe
akilful draughtsmen like Mr. Watling, and even
clergy, are not always quite accurate in copjin^
legends or skilled in reading the contractea and
indistinct words.
Possibly Mr. Marsh might obtain valuable
assistance from Mr. R L. Blackburn, F.A.S.| who
in his professional duties as architect has for many
years been* compiling the History of the Rood-
Bcreens of SufTolK and other counties from personal
inspection, and some time since issued a prospeetitt
of a forthcoming and evidently very careful wod[
on the subject. Suffolk AjraariBT.
" The Grpatest Clerks are not the Wisest
Men"(4^S. vii. 409.)—
« The grctest clerkcs ben not the wysest men.
As Ymilom to the wolf thus spake the mare.''
This is the only passage, so far as I can remwn-
ber, in the Canterbury Tales, containing an alluaion
to any incident in The History of Heynard tk
j Foxe, Mr. Thomas Wright, in his note on the
above lines, says : —
** The fable of the wolf and the mare is fouDd in tfa»
Latin iEsopcan collections, and in the eariy Frencli poem
of Renard Je Contrefait, from whence it appears to MW
been taken into the English Reynard the I'ojc."
Now it is quite true that the story occnis in
Reynard le Cmdrefait and in other early poesji;
but it certainly iid not come into the Epgyu
Reynard from the French poem just mentioDei
Caxton translated, as we all Know, from the Dutw
prose Historic van Reijnaert de J os, printed at
Gouda in 1479, and his translation is for the suMt
part fMthful, fully justifying his own statemtfi:
*<I haue not added ne mynusshed, but hanefcj- \
owed as nyghe as I can my copye, whiche was*
dutche " ; and this fable of the wolf and the W»
\ (oTtcA T3L0 exception to the fidelity with which M
4«* S.VIJ. June 24, '71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES,
547
iiAs **folowed his copye." It may be observed
that Chaucer appears either to have had an im-
perfect acquaiut*ince with the fable, or to have
quoted from memory ; for it was not the mare at
^1, but Iteynard himaelf who thus addressed the
wolf, the mare having quietly trotted away with
her foal as soon as she had shown laegnni the
price which was written on her hoof.
F. NORGATE.
Montaigne (Ess., liv* i. ch. xxiv.) quotes : —
*• Mng^is magnos clericos non etint tUAgU mugnos sapi*
And his editor (ed. Didot, Paris, 1802), tbe poet
Pegmer's translation i —
♦* Le« plu5 graada clorcs ne «ont pas Us plus fins."
James Knowles,
Scss^s Folk Lore : The Slowwohm (4^ S» vii,
427.) — In Norfolk the saying is —
•* If snakea could hear and slows cotild tet^
Nur loao noir beast would ever be free."
The ^low-worm is known as the liind-wofm
^Teryw here, G. A* C*
**Fro3i Ci/iGs TO Cloos/'etc. (4^'' S. Tii, 472.)
M. D» ha^ «ent you ti refined copy of the proverb
in question. The original, 1 venture to tliink, is
tlie better of the two: '* There's nobbut three
generations atween dogg and clogs."
HBEMBNTEtTDE.
'' ts '' AND ^' En '' (4'»» S. Ylpamm ; vii. 50, 193,
264.) — I have been prevented by a long ilbiess
from enticing Dr, Dixon's reply to me before. My
•* languHge/' of which he complains, is simply that
of the facts. I am sorry they do not accommodate
themselves to Dr. Dixok's hypothesia, but surely
that is no fault of mine. It appears, however, tha't
tbe real combatant, conveniently sheltering him-
self imder Ds. Dixojt's buckler, ia " the author of
se?^al learned works and the professor at a
foreign university." and^ moreover, "one of the
most distinguished scholars and philologists of the
age/' Well, "non omnea oumia scimus,'' This
g«litlemau may perhaps be a profcfesor of geology
or of oriental languages, but certainly not of
French J and therefore (especiiilly as we do not
Imow who he is) I hope one may, without want
of courtesy, question his authority ivhen it is
opposed to that of all the philologists of France,
It vdll be remembered that I before asked Dr.
Dixon where he ** discovered ^* ** ea science,** " ^
droit," and *'^ philosophie.'' lie now informs
UA that those phenomena are "very common in
French Switzerland and elsewhere,*' as well as on
ibe rifiiting cards of some of his acquaintance (bad
'cess to the engravers I) ; and adds that ** Dncteur
^ droit,'' in the newspapers, is as frequent aa ** Doo-
teuT an droit" In the presence of these statements
I admit I)r, Dixox's rights as a discoverer, but
demur to the value of the discoveries ; especially
as the accomplished Littr^, after working inde-
fatigably on his great dictionary for twenty -four
years, seems to have been enUiely ignorant of
them. Perhaps the incatmu professor would ob-
ligingly conmaunicate them to him for insertion
in the " SnppMment," I have often read with
great interest Br. Dixon^s valuable contributions
on ballad literature in " N. & Q.,^* but I submit,
that this case of "^* and en^^ comes under quite
another category. J. Paok*
KUdare Gardens.
In the BovcUer de la Fmff ov defense de la con^
fessioii de fo\j des EgltM^ rS fannies de France , by
Herre da Moulin (1619), this word and its com-
pounds are very frequently met with. Thus, in
sec. X. p. 85, ** lis nous ont laiascS I'Euangile iji
Escritures, pour ©str© colomno v^ appuy de nostre
foy,'^ is given as a translation of t^e passage,
*♦ Evangel! urn »V* scripturis nobis tradiderunt, fun*
damentum & columna fidei nostno futurum" — ^s
plainly meaning " dans les,'' But I have not as
yet noticed any reference in your columns to the
words esquekf isqutUes^ &c., compounds of ^^, and
implying ^* dam ksqwetW' Here is a line, from
the some work, which ehows it^ own significa*
tion ; —
" lis sf auent que le iour ]i*Qst pas plus oontraire [k la
Duict que lea ftudtus coacUes aux noaueaux, vioueh U
pa|>e Tegle tout & ordoane de tout . . . dans leaqueb," etc.
Then again ; —
** Uae dgliw partiouli^ro est Aujette k ettct, mesme en
ce dont 11 a^agit, h e^auoir ii faire defl remonstrancea, el
vser (user) de cenaurea, eaquelUt (daua lesquelles) se
cammetteat des fautea*^*
H. W, R.
Jersey*
Date of CitATTCER's^BiRTn (4'" S. vii. 412, 478.)
Ms. FuBJf ivALL speaks of Chaucer's *' Boke of the
Duchesse '" as '* essentially the work of a young
hand, of a man under thirty." I will not 'pause
to consider how few men of such an age could
have written one of the most melodious and hautU'
vit/ poems that ever was penned, but I ask per-
mission to call the attention of your correspond-
ents to a difticulty in the chronology of this poem.
Chaucer deecribea the duke as —
" A wonder welfariog knight, . . .
Of good mokc!K and right yong thorto,
Of the age of four and tweotte ycre."
The Buchesa Blanche died in 1300— an undis-
puted date; and in that year John of Gaimt,
according to the received date of hii birth, would
be twenty-nine, not twenty-four. His friend
Chaucer can hardlv have failed to know his age,
which is attested oy Froissart and other histo-
rians, but not (so far as my researches have in-
formed me) by any State document otherwise thaiL
inferentiaUy. Tb«» tosl m^v^Si^ SSswbXV ^s^^^
him ia ia ou^ ot \>x^ Botul\ CwtTaT^u\«>.«m ^<a^
548
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4«»8.TII.Jujie24,71.
pkii LiberOTum Mf^w^ tindar date Feb. 16^ 1S41.
£iiig EdwJird, who was fiometimeg dilatoTy in hia
p&Tmeiiti^ did not beatow his gift of lOQ/p reward
tbi the tidings of bU san^a Wth (which thiee
Indies hod to divide among them) until Julyr
1342 (Mot Riit. Mi^A. 16 Edw. UL) These two
entries may, however, be taken as confirmatory
6Tidence of John of Gaunt 'a bkth in 1340, con-
Hideriug al§o that Edmund^ who waa certtuiily hie
younger brother, was bom in 1341, How shall
we account for the five years' di^repancy between
the datea P HERME3f tb'D^be,
« Heaet of HEiRia " (4*'* S, rii, 362, SOD, 463,)
Among the able writora who Have assisted to give
currency to this phraae, ia Mr. Anthony TroUope,
ATi gr. : —
•* Id hfir heart or liearts Mra, GFantly hated Affs^Prou-
die^that h, with the sort of faatrsil one Cbrktian lAily
allcrwfl bflrself to feel towarda Another/* — Fmmtty PaFMoa-
CuxHnEUT Bebe.
Glatton {4^ S. vii. 964j 44(5,) — Perhaps the
4uemt meaot to ask why an iron-buOt turret-
Bhip was caKed *' Glatton," If bo, he will find
that hia query has already been answered by my-
aelf and others in previous Tolumoa of " N, Sc Q./'
but m 1 have not now got them at band I am un-
able to ^ve the exact reference, I may, however,
briefly saf, that tho name of '* Glatton " has been
preserved in the navy since the beji^inning^ of the
century, when ^Ir, WeUs built at Chatham a ahip
of fifty guns, which be named " Glatton/' after
the Huuting-donabirc parish of thnt namo, near to
Stilton, of which he waa the lord of the m^mor.
The greater portion of the 1^1^,-^11 of Gktton still
belongs to Ins descendants W. WeDs, Esq,, M.l\,
of Holme-wood. A full description of the Gkt-
ton will be found in Mr. Heed s Our Irondad
Ships. I have often been oniused at seeing the
woTd miftiirintAd '* tliA DlnHnn/'
CrrnuERT Bebe*
word misprinted '* ^^ Glutton J
Glatton is a parish in riuutingdonsbire, and
gave name to ILM.S. Glatton, 5U, in wbidi Capt.
^f*...^ j_ c.:..x TT m ,, , French
fee
very littlo boy, occoaional visits paid to the gallant
old man in bis quiet home at FroBhford, near
Bath, where he prided himaelf; with justice, on
the beauty of his garden.
Was not Lord Simdwich, First Loixl of the
Admiralty, connected with Hunts?
Mackexzje E. Walcott, B.D., F.S.A.
Maidbnwkll, near Louth (4"» S. vii. 380.)
The first of the family of Mosely living at
Maidenwell in the eighteenth century was an ad-
lierent of the House of Stuart, who raised a troop
of hone in 1715, and was made prisonei Skt Pi^-
ton. After many adyentures ne Bucce«><i^^ m
escaping to Franca, wbeie he resided for mmB
time, but ultimately came hock to Knghmd, and
not venturing to return to the north, settled at
Maidenwell under the assumed name of Moselji
which his desc^mdants retained.* A short tims
before the rising of 174d Prince Charles Edward
visited Mr, Mosely at Maidenwell The prinot
was knded from the vessel which bad brought
him from France somewhere about Saltfleetby bj
a man who was known to tbe writer's grand-
father > Burin? this visit the prince went to Lin-
coln, and with his usual recklessness appeared tX
an entertainment where his presence excited sus-
picion, and would have led to his detention had it
not been for the vigihrnce of his hoat^ who acoozn*
pamed him from Haidenwell. Amon^zst othar
Jacobite relics which have been handed down m
his family^ the writer has in hia possession an old
8Jc^'Mi4e nbbon of the Garter which was worn hj
the prince, and left by bim at MaidenwelU Hj:
Closely died suddenly about the time of tbe ri^h^
of 1745, from the mortifieatiou of an old woanu
received in 1715. The authorities thinking thit
bis eofHn bad been filled with stones^ and thit
Mr, Mosely himself bad gone to join tbe ianif-
genta, had him disiuterred and exposed to puUk
view. The Moaelys being Catholics, it is not uht^
that tbe parish books will contain any reigiatir «
baptiams, though they may of burials. About
thirty ^-eara ago there was a atone in the wall m
the inside of Farforth church recording the desth
of one of Mr. Mosely 'a daughters, R S. B.
Cratjfd-eds op Newahh, Baeokets (4^ 9. rii
343p) — I have not seen Burke*a Batonti^j^ for
this year, and do not precisely underataQd ham
Mp's communication what arms utb now attrilHitd
to the above family ; but in the volume for IW
the]^ are : Quarterly, let and 4tb, giijes, a im»
ermine; 2nd and Srd, a chevron between tiuw
crosses patt^e . Crest : an ermine,^be4»rings whidl
can only appertain to the descendants fiout ths
marriage of Malcolm Craufurd of Greenock iriti
Marjory, daughter and heiress of John BoidsT d
Kilbimie,
I notice, too, that the present baronet is atyW
*^of Kiibimie"? and in the "Lineage" Quentm
Craufurd of Newark, the father of tbe first biH^
net (created 1780), is called '* a descendant of t**
Graufurds of Kilbimie." The ermlno fceee tai
the chevron and crosses x>att^e are quartered tj
Sir Hew Crawfurd-PoUok, Bart., who it appein
to me is alone entitled to the dedsnatioo ''rf
Kilbimie *'; but I write under correction.
Betham, in his BaronHage (voL iv., Appeodh^
p. 15), gives a short account of the Newark i«^
out although tho then baronet ia called <<of M-
bumey/' the pedigree is not caziied beyond tlieiU
baronet, and the arms are there given as Anca(
\ K Wck'a head erased gules, which are not^ I ioi4
\ ^<^>M»saL^ ^'CfiL^^^^li^^amSk family.
\
4»»S.TU.Jc»»2*,'71.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES
M9
The Rev, C H, Craufurd, rector of Oldswinford,
in Wniceatershiro (whose fotber, the fankius
r-Generid Robert Cmufurd, was a sou of Sir
tuder, the first baronet), in n (pitbH^ibed)
e Tuiou preftched "on the occaaion of his secfmd
xnarriafire/* made the following extraordiuarj state-
ri ^ yectinf? his family : —
:<Ifl ray ance5itn% i vc\]\ iintr only RHj* that,
1 Mvith the li«roii* VV'ftllll(:^e,• I am ut leitBt
i- to, if not line^ly dtHcended Iroin, the
:< rnufard, who ruled their broad domnios
i uf ftiudal &tjltQ licform the nximy mtuA-
warm the peerxigc, had BprouttJil from
H. B. G.
<*Tiii SimrrBs of Pabitassus** (A^^ S. vii. 410,
448.) — The author of this little Tolumc was Wil-
liam Woty. {See mycommimication to ** X. & Q./'
4''* S* ii. 4tl8.) Perhapa the most interesting poem
in the Tolume i^ *^A Description of Baij^iiigjie
Wella.** In the same author's DhaAoms of Jielicon,
170.0, w*? haye a poem on " Yauxhall/'^ and another
on ** WirUe-Conduit Houae." Woty was fond of
writing ftViout theee old places of amusement, and
his descriptions are valuable records of the past,
Edward F, RrMBAULT*
Oi^ Scotch N^nsrAPEjis (4'*' S, vii. 390.)—
Tho oldost exiting Scotch newspaper, barring the
<^'' ihurffh Gazette, is the Edinhnrgh Eoett-
if*: ^ which waa established on Becem-
l>erlO, 1718: —
♦* It Tra-,** S3V3 Andrews, la bis HtMiary of BntUft
Jpmrtvt' 7), "the property of three partners,
John >f rnea iMSwen, and WOliam Brown, and
•^^^'■' M. ,,H of the said Jamet M*£tren aod WU-
1' The privUege was panted to James
^^ inn-r, burgosa, of e^cclasively printing news
i' fondaws Tuesdnya, and ThurMiays, on
<■' tiould * g^ive anCi coppie of hw pnent to
tj ^'--' prior to pablicatioD. An Edinbur^
^'' ' been in eicialenco for lomc years prior to
t]' i he Scotch paper which »tancFa next ou the
V\ i hvrdnen Journal^ wbich WAS <%stabhshej in
1 ■ battle of CulJodeji, of which No, 1 contains
A^- i'he pablicalion was so^pettded for about two
jmmxa^f but it has been pttbli*hed regularly since 1748.'*
Alexaj^der Paterson.
Bartuder,
y Canterhuet Tales/' edition of IGOl (4*** S.
TiL 422. )— pKLAorra can be referred to a copy of
iJb\s edition, if he will communicate with me*
GbO. OLtTLOW.
87, Ctvmham Road, K.W,
JoBsr Foster op Wordslky, 1770 (4»*' S. vii.
4I10.>--To the name of John Foster of Wordaley
th^re is added a note, that he was a member of an
ffi^^^t LWceatershire family, noticed by Nichola
i^' ' y of that county. Are the Leice^tej-
*^; 13 related to the Foatets of Ryhall,
who njinruiarried with the Bnrr^Us^ and whose
* _
• Wall4ce'a R]Qth«r vrai a dntiirhtcr of niii^U Craururtl
pedigree is given in 13i\Qt<i^ Rutland? In Bloro
the arms of the Bujrelh* ore given, but not tboae
of the Fosters, F.
La Cail^colb (4'*' S, vii. S4, 149, 243,)— From
the Spanish caracoL Johnson and Walker give
it as **an oblique tread of a horse.*- Noel and
Chapsal aay ; *' Tormc de maut-ge, mouvement en
rond ou demi-roud qu*on fait faire h, un chevaL"
Motley nrobably made use of this hippie term
to denota tne^ custom which obtains at courts, never
to turn on©*s back upon the sovereign ; and thence
the awkward obligation* when initiate, to with-
draw performing a semi-circle after making the
nstial *' Salam alaiknm, alaiOmm salam/' This
mode of retirement ia sometimes attended with
ludicrous, if not serioua consequences, as I onco
witnessed: an unfortunate foreign military ir^^ar/i^
(one of hia spurs having got entangled) taldng
what the French call humorously *' un billet de
parterre," to the no amall glee of the midcMef-
loving young prinoeafies pieeent
I have seen the tezm caracoier uaed otherwise
than in the mtm^e. When that brilliant young
naval officer, the Prince de Joinville, appeared with
bis frigate before San Juan d'Ulloa at the taking
of Vera-Cru2, a French newspaper said ; " li
prince est Tenu cranement faiie caracohr LaBeHe-
Poule en vue des forls»"
There was another kind of evolution in dandng
much in vogue at the court of Catherine de Me^
dicis. It was of Italian origin, as its name implies,
La Pavatie (from l^va for Padova), It oonalst^Hi
tn A slow majestic step: hence we say in French,
^*Be pAvaner, marcher d'une mani^re grave."
P, A, L,
Beoiupntal Bai>6E9, Mottos, ktc. (S'^ S-
pamm; 4*»» S* ill, loi 312, 890.)— I have not
noticed any reply to the inquiry respecting the
meaning and origin of the pigtail, saicl by Sebas-
tian (p. ?j12) to be worn by the officers of the
2l8t Begiment I understand that it is the 23rd
lloyal Welsh Fusiliers who wear this peculiar ap-
pendage, and not the 21st North British Fusiliers,
The 28th Eegiment^ familiarly known aa the
*' Slflshers/' being attacked in front and rear, faced
About, and in that novel position repelled the
enemv, and thus acquired the distinction of wear-
ing tto number in front and rear. (See Sioc-
queler's British Soldwr, p. 85,)
The 34tb Regiment have had confirmed to them
the laurel wreath, but were unable to prove its
origin, aa the regimental records were lost about
17fe— tradition associates it with Fontenoy.
H MoRPimr,
Jexnofr Arms (4^** S. vi. 45^, o€3.)— 1
arms of Dr, Edwaid Jenner of Berkeley, accord-
ing to Fofibrooke in 1^ Biographical x] s '^
Dr. JeHfieVf were — * * Az. two aw o«4& <i"t^-
I
1
550
NOTES AND QUERIES.
C4ttS.TII. Jd»»34,
4
covered cups of Ibo last/* 1 have seen a copy of
Dr« Jenner 8 book-plate — Azure, a cro6& flory or»
between four tieurs-de-lis. Crest: a greyhound
sejant, sable. Motto : " In pretium perse vero."
On his father's tomb, in Berkeley church, same
arms UnpaUng Head. H. Mobphtk.
Ladv Geeensleeves (4'^ S. vii, 475.) — The
ballad, with its music and history, Ib printed in
Cha^pell's Popular Mtmc of the Olden Time
(i. sSo). The picture is not explained by it, unless
the " dead-cold colour " of the kdy's face be con-
sidered to typify her coldness to her lover ; —
** They act thee up, they took thee dovrn,
The>" served tneo witli humility ;
Tbv foct might not once touch tho ground,
And yet thou WQuldat not lovo me."
H£B][E5TKiri>E.
" OOMERED '' OB ** UMEHEp " (4** S. vil. 475.)—
A word with a similar dgnifi cation as the above,
viz. **to be overshaded," and pronounced as if
written omneredf is in common use in North Lan-
cashire. James FEAEsoif,
MUnrow.
**St." jlbbeeviated to *'TJ' (S'^ S. passim:
4**^ S. vii, 470.)— In Norfolk parlance *'it'* is
generally abbreviated to t or tt, I was waiting
for a train at a railway station this afternoon ; as
soon as it camo in eight| a boy called out '* Here
a come;' Q. A. C.
Roger de Loqes (3^<* S. vi, 534.)— It may pro-
bably interest F. P. to know that Bernard Kirk-
bride of Ellerton, in Hesket, co. Cumberland, who
died in 1677, was the last descendant of Adam^
second son of Odard de Loges, secoat^baron of
Wigton (circa 1206), ^l3tE0J>*
The Chevron (4^*^ S* vii, 4aS, 4G7.)— Robson,
in vol. ill* of his British Herald^ after describing
a bezant, which is believed to represent a coin of
Byzantium, states —
*■ That its inlroductioa into coat armour is supposed
to luave takt^n place at the time of llie Kir»t CniAade, or
Uoly ^Var, und since borq.e by the descendants of the
Championa of Chrittiatdty in 'that and tlje ffuoceediug
cnuftde."
S. P. may have had this, or a similar passage^
in his mind, when he asked his chevron queiy,
Flefe-de-Ly8,
EvEBTEoni's BuaiNBsa is NoBonv^s Busln^ess
(4*** S. vii, 453.)— I often wish that a list were
made from your earliest pages downwards, of que-
ries which have never been in any way answered.
The truth of this proverb would abundantly ap-
pear thereby.
As to its antiquity, I can cany it back at l^afit
Bftf years before Lobb LYiTELTOK'a reference — to
WaItOD*$ Complete Afigler^ where, pait i. c u,, he
B6j8f ''I remember that a wiae m^nd ot imiiQ d^
i
usually say, * That which is everybody**
is nobody's businefia.' "' YnfGBX'T S* I«K49*
Sir Rob, Killigeew: Burlamachi <4** S.
454.) — The State Papers, domestic and fowi
especially the latter, of the latter part of th^ \
of James I. and the early part or GharW X
fuM of notices of Phili; ^ Achi, He
great cajjitalist, with c :nts in
commercial centres in lAirope, who
employed by the government to transi
siderable sums of monev abroad for th
ambassadors and for the payment of
occasionally also to adr-*" - t*^p sums
In this way his name i y to bo
the issue books of the E^v»v^«c.»
In the Journal j>f the Mof/al ItfUittdion o/*CwniJw^',
just issued to the members and sabacribris, b •
** Memoir of the Family of Killigrew,^' irriitirtilf
Hr, Martin Killigrew in 1737 or 1738. ITiis mtf
perhaps afford some information which intf m
acceptable to Mr, Hessels. After dispomug d \k
elder branch of the family, ^the writer prxe^
to speak of the younger; and inasmuch «i tfae
Journal has not a very wide circulation, and ttif
not be easily obtainable by non-members» wfbM^
Mr, Editor, with his usual courtesy, will alW
me to trespass upon his space with the followiai^
extract : —
" ConceminR the younger hfiitich of Ihfi CunQv,^
writer says **Thiit Thoma? ' - ^n, wnsoflilrl
KiUigrew, 2^^ Governor < iLt DisUf^ ^
great esteem with Queen L tadioqtxln
estat6w Sir Robert Killigrew waii at y* hvkd i
branch, Vice Chnmberldn ttr King 'Chajles
Queen, and lefl ht.^ great posaeaaioiis to hlai
Sir W* Killigrcw :^»ereral younger lona mak
%urea in >« world, and four fine dauj^liter*,
their Wit and Beauty, and from t^
inarriage^ one to y« Earl of Yarroout
ShonnoD, a third to Berkeley Lord Fius-nariir^s; i
othiir to Qodolphin of ComwalL Y* aaid youiiM
of^* said Sir Robert making their tray at Court b}
wit, w<**, for want of prudence, was y» min of r* !
branch of this familyf still exceptingij -with jii4i i
(Mb
to his memory, Henry, one of y« Toungest soiu tf( j*^
blr Uobert, bred to y* Chnreb and of great Ettemnt
Governor to y* Earl of Devonahire'a sona, sinc^ t.% tlsr
William created Duke of Deroosblre, also
T''lflte Duke of York, King James y* 2»**, l
KDligrew, Master of y* Savoy and V—'
miusterf who had two sons, Heniy an
to the Sea. HIb son Henry, a roan
long service arrived to command y
under King VVm.j iny* late war with I
by J* name of Admiral Killigren-, -v^-
James, at 31 years of aea, waa Xv
of 5 men of war in y« Straights :
of Lechom be met with and engaged 2 Ftk-.
war, bigger than any of his, and yet tho* tif«» C
tains proved Cowards and would dbt come to L
ance, he took odo of the Frenchmen and annk }
V \ra.t at \.\\A expense of hiai own life, and that of oMll
\ i£t!a^^^£iint,«^ ^fvKM&«sL^KAdid^ aamo Jiiail ]
4
to vl^^H
niAky< ^H
ofoMril ^H
»JasiMll ^
«*S.VII. .It-!ne!4,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
551
I
I
I
gr«w makA; ir^ two Cow&rd CApUinB For y" prea^Dt from
J* death of y* said Cotnmuider e^eapcd Paniahmcnt ; but
Mme yoftrs aifter, apon a seootid mtabehaviour, werti con-
demned and shot at Pljmouth. Kirby wae the niime of
one of them/'*
Hammersmith. JOHIT MACLEAN.
" Rough '* (4'»» S. tII. 431.)— That this word
(which, m I said in my query, first became popular
about forly years ago) should have been used in
its modem sense by Queen Elizabeth, passes all
I r ti ds of belie f . Wi th all h er faulta sh e did not
itiiike silly unmeaning remarks; and surely it
would hftVe been utterly aillj in her to say she
did not wish a low rulBon to succeed her on the
tbroD©. One cannot accept the Italian Searamelll
as good authority for explaining an obscure sayings
of the d}ing queen* Does any English writer of
the time mention that Elizabeth used the word
rott^hf as reported by Mr. Motley ? ( Ignited Nethef^'
hrtfh, iv, 138.) Had the wori been common in
her day, we should surely meet with it in writiogs
of the period ; it would not have lain dormant for
more tiian two hundred years. A word that has
escaped the notice of Nares» Wricfht^ and Halli-
well (see Nares' Glossary^ ed. 1B50) cannot have
been in use daring the seventeenth century j and
unless some good English authority be produced
for Queen Elizabeth haying used this word rough^
I must altogether disbelieve that she did so. If
8lie uttered any word having that sound, it might
possibly have been n*^. The '' rutlV although
worn by men of the upper clasa, was in Queen
Eltxftbeth's time an es]>ecially female article of
and the queen might have said " I will have
/f to succeed me,'* just as now-a-daya one
1 say " I will have no petticoat government.^*
t, Ijowever, wait for some better authority
1 bat of the Italian Scaramelii before I can
<-i that Queen Elizabeth used either the word
or i^ff when consulted as to her wishes
L'ting her successor on the throne, Jaydee.
^xittWiiwtnui,
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
T%€ Uol]f Bihlt^ accorflinp ta the Authorised Version
{AAj* 1611); te'f//i an Explanatory and Critical Com-
mumiarif, ana a Rtviiion of the TVufti/a^ton bu Bishops
■ " ^" -y of the Anqlican Church, JCdited by
A./CHnoii of Exeter. VoL /,, Part I,
■IS, VoL I., Pari JL Leviticus^ Num-
' fotiomy, ( M tirra3\)
or did good service to iho catue of religious
ought under the notice of the heads of
IvjjjabUity of pro V id in 1^ a Commentary
_ UookA, in which the ktest information
u« made accessible io men of ordinary culture :
: »v«ry educated man should have access to some
wai the name of the other. Tlioy were shot
ii Soond in 1702 for cowardice in Bonbow*s
Lj<tn \\M\ r>» Casse, in the Wcat Indies, and were
rtcd in Charles Church, Plymouth."
work in which he might find an explanation of any diffi-
cnltiftj which his own mind might sug|]fCJ9tt aa well aspf
any new objections raised a|;?ainst any particular book or
fiaaaoge. The want of auchCi^mmcntary has indeed b«ea
ong and deeply felt by large classe« of intelligent Church-
men. But it is a far ejiaicr matter to point out a want than
to devise tlie mean^ of ^applying it ; and it was not antil
after long and anxious conaitlcration that the ArchUi^hop
of York, and the company of divines who were asso-
dated with him in the endeavoar to orgaaise a plan for
the effecttial carrying out of the great object proposed by
the Speaker, saw their way to overoomiog the diilleuUles
with which the undertaking was enoompasiaed. Not the
least of these was the necessity of keeping the Commen-
tary within the limits whieh would make it acccaaiWe to
those for whom it was more especially intended; and
boundless o-s la the subject^ it hoij been decided to com-
prise the Text and Commentary in eight volumes.
Another difliculty arose from the' neoessitv of treating
subjects requiring a good deal of research, hi*tQrica.l aad
philological, at a length disproportionate to the interest
which could be felt by those not specially prepared for
such studies. This has been overcome by remitting such
nates or essays to the end of the books or chapters to
which they refer, where they can be fbund by thoae who
desire them. To a Committee, fonned for Che purpose,
iTOii left the aeloction of the writers of the various sections
of the whole, being divided into eight sections — and of the
general editor. Tlie latter important duty was entmsted
to tht: Rev. F. C. Cook, Canon of Exeter and Preacher of
Lincoln's Inn, with whom are ajisociatedi aa a amoll Com^
mitteeof Reference in coaasof difficulty, the Archbishop of
York, with the Rej^us Professors of Divinity of Oxford
and Cambrid;^c. The text selected as the basis of the Com-
mentarv is the Autherised Version from the edition of
1611, the first section of the Commentary is now before
na, forming a volume (In two Parts) of upwards of nine
hundred pages. The Book of Genens has been the work
of the Bishop of Ely j Exodus^ ^o the twentielb chapter,
of the editor; the remainder of 'that book, and Ltviticu*^
Cif the Rev. Sarauj?! Clark, Vicar of Bred warden; while
Number* and Dtui^mnnmy have been the joint labour of
the Rev. T. E. Espin, Warden of Queen** College, Bir-
mingham^ and the Kev, J. F. Thmpn, M.A., late Vicar of
Barrington. From what we have thun stared, it will be
readily seen how great are the claims of this New Bible
Commentnry to general acceptance, «nd the satisfaction
with which its appearance cannot fail to bo hailed hy
those earnest Churchmen who have long felt the want
of such a guide to the profitable study of the Holy
Scriptures.
A Dvctionary of Binqraphical Reference^ ranbi'ming One
hitnthcd thousand A*atneMt tog^thfr with a Clnuifitd Indtj;
of the Bi^fffraphicai Literature of Europe and America.
By Uwrencc B. PhilUps, F.K.A.S., &c. (Sampson
Low*)
There is one fact stated in this title-page which must
commend the book to general attention, namel}^ that it
contains one hundred thousand names, so that whoever
consults it for information rc*pt^ing any man wtio has
ever made himself a name from Julius C^iaar to Edmund
Cnrll, mav be prcttv snre of Ending in it the mare pro-
fninent dates and facts jn the lifi« of the individoaf in-
qnired after, and in addition a reference to the works of
a more recondite nature, in which fuller information may
be found if needed. It is this whieh gives a peculiar and
most useful character to the' Dictionary, not of simple
Biographv, but of Biographical IJefcrence, How f^nx^
has been the hibouc, a\i^\— ^\\a\. \& cA ^5t^.\v\^«t'vowyw^-
552
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[4*»'S.VII. Jcjf«24, 71.
preparation may be learned from his preface, which should
DO carefully read. But the book has another ver>' useful
feature. It is supplemented by a Bibliof^raphy of Bio-
graphy in the shape of three classed Indexes of Works
upon Biography. The first is an Index of General Bio-
graphies classed according to the languages in which they
are written ; the next of Xational liiographies arranged
in Countries, and subdivided into Provinces and Cities ;
and the last, of Class or Particular Biographies arranged
alphabetically and according to Countries and Cities.
After lading before our read(>r8 the^ notes illustrative of
the objects, scope, ami extent of tlio work in question, it
Mr. George Smith, of the British Musenm, read a paper
on the ** Early History of Babylonia," oommeneing witk
a resume of facts already ascertained by the Ubonn of
Sir Henry Rawlinson and others. Mr. J. W. BoMnqaA
read a paper " On the Date of the Nativity," conaidcnBg
in detail the facts of that occurrence, and thegovenuncBt
of Cyrenius and the Census of Caesar, as recorded in ths
Gospel and by Josephus. The various eclipses and astn-
nomical data incidentally connected with these evcBti
were enumerated, and the author, reasoning from ^
together, was disposed to believe that the birth of oor
Lord took place eitlier in the autumn of the year 3, or ths
is scarcely necessary that wo should give our opinion spring of 2 before the Christian Era.
that it is a book which is destined to take a permanent
and foremost place among biographical text books and
authorities.
2^ JVile without a Dragoman. Bi/ Frederic £don.
(King & Co.)
Written in a bright and pleasant style, and full of
practical common sense, this book will Ik; fuund a most
valuable companion to any who, chilled by the cold, and
wearied by the length of bur Englisli winter, may wish
to pass one in Egypt without indulging in that most ex-
pensive luxury — a Dragoman.
Engliah and Scotch JlUtoricnl Ballads. Indited, rcith an
Introduction^ Notes^and Ghnsari/forthc The of Schools,
hy ^Vrthur Milman, M.A., late Student of Christ Church,
Oidbrd. (Longmans.)
A well-consi<lered essay on the nature of popular
poetry prepares the reader for the explanatory' .sketches
with which the several ballads, selected by the editor,
are introduce<l. These, with the illustrated notes and
glossary, form a little volume for whicli every school-
l)oy into whose hands it may be placed will acknowledge
his obligations to Mr. Milman.
Remarks and Svggtisfions on the Scheme for the Comple-
tion of St. PanVs Cathedral. By George Edmund
Street, A.IJ.A. itc. (Kivingtons.)
A Letter to the Venj Uev. the Dean of St. PauVs, printed
at the Requvst of the Executive Committee for the Com-
pletion of St. PauCs Cathedral. By F.* U. Sutton,
Vicar of Theddingworth. (liivingtoiis.)
The former of these pamphlets treats of the proposed
mural decoration of St. Paul's ; and who has a better
right to bo heard on such a subject than Mr. Street 7
whilst Mr. Sutton's letter is principally taken up with
discussing the style of pointed glass that sliould be intro-
duced into the Cathedral. Both contril)utioiis as well as
our own column^, testify to the variety of opinion that
exists on these Hubjoct". We thoroui,'hly agree with
Mr. Street when he asserts that no one known what Wren
intended to do in the way of decoration, otlu-rwiso how is
this variety of opinion to 1ki account«Hl for? nay, the
verj' work.** carried on during the ht^t few years within
the building— now, happily, to be all undone — witness to
not a few and by no nn»ans inexpensive leaps in the dark.
Without endorsing all ^Ir. Stroft's opinions— we confess
to fearing that the objection stated at p. i;^ to the carT>'ing
out of his design woul<l prove insuperable — wc earnestly
trust that theCommittee will listen to his words of warn-
ing. For our own part wc should like to sec the works
at present confinetl to freeing the walls of their wretched
coats of paint, cleaning the windows, and the removal of
Stkabburoii Library.— The University of Oxford,
by a decree in convocation, has authorised the delegttss
o^ the press to contribute copies of sach works printed by
them as they may think fit to the library of the Univer*
sity of Strasburgb, and that the volome so presented by
them be bound.
The Historical Sogiett.— This Society held its
sixth Meeting for the Session in the Scottish Corpora-
tion Hall, Crane Court. Fleet Street, on Mondav evcniEg,
Sir John Bowring in the chair. The following papers
were read : ** Xotes from the Records of Farersham, lo60
to 1600," by J. M. Cowper, K«iq., Fellow of the Socidr;
and *' An Official Inaccuracy Bespccting the Death and
Burial of Princess Mary, Daughter of King James I.**,
by Colonel Chester, Fellow of the Society. An intere^tine
discussion followed. The p.ipers, it was agreed, shooM
be included in the Society's Transactions.
Mc. S. R. TowxsTiKXD Mayer has resigned the edi-
torship of the Illustrated Review,
Mr. Grote.— It has been truly said that by the deidi
of George Grote this country has been robbed of one of
its chief literary ornaments. Bom in 1794 at Beckcn-
ham in Kent, and having been educated at Charter Hooie^
the future historian of Greece entered his father's count-
ing-house in hi<} sixteenth year, devoting all his spire
time to classical studies. How iirofound a Greek acbolir
he became his History, as well known in Germany ss
England, and of which the first volume appeared in 1W4,
sufficiently testities. Plato and the other Companioiu (f
Socrates was completed and published in 1865, but un-
fortunately the Aristotle will remain an unfinished worlc,
only one volume bein;: ready for the pres:>. Mr. Grot*
was a trustee of the British 'j^Iuseum, and hi.s portrait by
Millais, in this year's exhibition of the Royal Acadnav,
as Vice-Chancelfor of lx>ndon University, testifies to the
gratitude felt by members of Convocation for their cbaa-
pion.
Mk. B<;h.ton Corxky's LinRARY. — ^The sale of the
library of the late Mr. Bolton Comey was concluded os
Saturclay, at the Rooms of Messrs. Sotheby, Wilkinson, 4
Hodge. One of the chief features was the collection of
early voyages and travels and works relating to Americi,
all of which excited nmch competition and brought vcnr
high prices, as will be seen from the following qnoU-
" Ffori^.
daylight
SociETT OF BiTtLiCAh Arch.eolooy.— At tho last
meetlnff of thia society, Dr, Samuel Birch in the c^aaii,
tion:— (218) Basanier, Ilistoire Rotable dc la
lo«6, 3C/.— (710) Champlatn, Voyages en la XouveBe
France, 1627, 3.)/. 10a.— (813) The celebrated Letter rf
(Columbus, being tlie first printed document known rdtt-
to America, consisting of four leaves, 1493, 116/.— (SH)
Historic del Fernando Colombo, 1571, 16/. 16«.-- (I19I)
Enciso, Suma dc Gcographia qne trata de todas las Vf-
t book printed in Spanish relatiiV
(1204) £rondelle,Nova Frsnda,
ar, Romanoero del CavalleroelCi^
1812, 45/.— (1^2) Frobishcr, True Discourse of the UH
. Voyages of Discovcrie, 1578, 67/ (1412) Gilbert's Dif-
\ CK>^Ty& Qi^Ty^&^N^m^Qt &New Passage to Cataia, 1j76i4^
4«»S,Y1LJCOT 24,71.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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! itt his aatograph, 88/,— ( 1 70t>) James,
3^JTOUS Voyage, 38/. 10*.— (2140) Mar-
ii Optw Epbtolarum, KiSO, 49/.— (2164)
TransA'lvani Cicsnris a Secretis Epistola,
1 *. ^nar Nafiess
'. Historia
htto, Ht)0,
I a Wonclerfuli
ription of New
34/. 10*. — {2*i)04) SclwuUjUh
Voifigc, 1619, 22A— (a02n)S!
InrfanrV ^'^"' ^r^A 10».— (:^.r^.vj
1518, ■' ' Tpspntiufl (Aivi. -<n,
BMIile L tt Nouo MondO'ii iti^i
1507» loli. Tke toUl amount realizi^a was 3,53d/. 1^4. &il
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WAJTTED TO PITKCHASE.
Pcrtteulin uid Ptfae. *e^ of the Jblloviiif bcpok* to be Mnt ^ilroek to
1h* pmltenan Irjr wliooa ther m rcqQlitd^ Vho«e nwne and addresi uq
WK>»[.i:ri.i^ HfrrnoQicT MAaiZiSE. I«f7'.
W^, Or June Part of the latter.
WafU«d br JTr. C. W. Styring, Kidon Moant. Leetk.
flirticrsf to Corrrd^aitlrnitit.
AtTF TTTTTIK AXT E3CTANT MS 9. IN TfTR HAjmWRrT-
IX rtSFKARK ? fpt// ht dkatned m tmr neactf in a
J nierable interest,
isr,- — f ftv v^n^, **See hoir 0te*e ChriitioHM Itwe one
tfMf^y" i§ moiic^ bjf TertuUifiH m a remark cvrrmi
mmm^ ih« heathen. See " X. Jt Q/' S'^ S. i, 488.
C E* D. — DfmaipB comet waM ^Ucorered bt/ Dr, Donnti
af fiorrnce, Jtint 2, 1868^ ond was tsitUAe in England in
th« end of SeptemUier and m October cf that ytar,
TA.vtLSTB.r PouTBAiTS. — The »peeimen alluded to at
p. 511, ii to be § fen at Mr, Gilbert* tf Bernard Strtet,
Stmthampion.
^I. T. iTfom(ySeIwCKKl.) — No particular* of Jakm
I 'jiren in Manning and Brag't Surrey.
■ nrnr.— Copf. Fdnnrd Sterling — not Thomas
£aritL ^ifierer of The Times,** 09 ttated in
Thm»*'! ! Jobn Sterling, ed- \B^>\^ p- 1&»
r A' ... ..-^Ute, a, 177 J and CoMaetrt Bio-
^' iiy.
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P. A. L. 7*hf mom^ram dotM not agree tcith the exampitt
of the hoHdu^riling of Hemry VI, ofj&tglami in the Brttith
Sfueeuntt
C* E. B. (Peckham) vV-^ ' ' — ^fafed where he picked
•^ mtch a quetr tcont c ■ -, for om he facetiim*tg
miyt, ** if ft not tit be J heaveni adove^ or the
e*T /j, Of tfte uujtLj^i under the earth** It hoks
it < ttrruptum of PrtJgeny .
J, nwi iiiT. — Thctr: * ;, excuaabk, Antfone
•0asi »€r that it 94 a mrrr . «,
F. \V. r:. f Hnfh i— I .; _:,;^A edi^itm of Burns* e
V ■ !, Th^'Jirtt edition wom priided
iu ■ nnd Hte WMond editim nt Edin-
^^ 1787.
—Ff*r the editio^nt of P^tiennne de
/ ..■.,„«,„; jUmtarir Servitude emiwuh Bmnet^
.Ml I ^Mb'i, iti. 711. An Engliih edition vHtt pnblifhed in
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<TA,— 4«» 5. vM p. 353, tot ii line 12 from bottom.
u«p. I,** read " sect, ix." ; p. 473, ooU li. line 22, /or
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INDEX.
FOUKTH SEEIES.— VOL. VII.
. £7fv cUiftifled ariidei. tee Amokympcs WoiKi, B<wic» itcetrtLT poBusmo, BptGAJiMs, Ei'Itapi*, Folk Lofli,
FftOVKRBf AKD Plllliiailtff QVOTATJOW*, SBAJUPWANA, ^MD SOKG* AMD BALLADf.]
on StJifl'ord family i 337
(A. M. BO on *• ItV a fur cr; to Locli Jiwt,** 41
Ltkke dwelUogs on Lou;;h Much, 42
AbhbA on tlie Eev, H, F, Cury, 137
Cary (BUhap Mardfic«i>, 463
German Lather&n church, Dublin, 545
IrUb car aud noddy, 23
AccideoU Compensation Bill, 2S0, 373, 466
AoootuUnoe, the osc of tbe word, 492
A. (D.) on Domeaday repres^ntjitive*, 208
Adam of Orleton, bishop of VVincbeator, 53^ 308
Addis (John) on blink vtr. wink, 460
Cbnucer'B " Sliipmim/' 208; ** ScUoo^' 361;
"Aft«r 000,'* **Stoor/' 386} '^* Col- Fox/' md
"GattotLBd,"418
^^ CheTisatmoef 343
^K '* Dolopatbofl, Ihe King and Seven Wive Men," 1 1 1
l^^f Deril bcaUflj^ bis wife, 400
^^ Merks, bi*hop of Carlisle, 190
I Poetry of tbe clouds, 397
I Poiot de ▼]<», 445
I H0toliei,44O
1^^ Sdioolmavtcr abroad in Siafford^bire^ 465
^H ** StAWiDg in their own graTj," 272
^f 8toi7 of a Btatuf*, 300
P Vw«i feeae: feaxe, 294
I Warm — wealthy, 84
f ,"■ ^ ' t Hymn, its tune, 41, 133, 21 7
1 (Alexaader), Greek poet, 221, 292
- ) on '*OwlI that loveat the boding sky," 202
£.) on Sydney Godolphin, 462
I (Alfred) on ** Absalom arid Acbilopbel/' 532
L *' Hoart of beartc/' 399
I A. (J*) on Mortimer, Earl of March, 209
I AtbADey and Amondeville family arnui, 234, 312^ 373
I AUmt (rHnce), a practical engraver. 20
W WL^iii^ Mr. Leigh ton's picture uf, 512
I V: (Bp, John), family and arm*, 122, 334
I 1 (Dr. Henry), dean of CanterlmT, deatb| C7,
I *i7
1 AVUlridgfi (XL W.) on Toyagear pigeons, 2S4
■ Akaof and L^raine and Napoleon dynaity, 281
I Attars of stono in the Anglic;in cburch| 162
AltlUam, a coin, 143
American literary men, their wealth, 47
I Amies (E.) on Dandy rolb, 534
' Ammargau paaAion play^ 296, 48 7
I AoarkaU, faroarite vrif« of Akbar, 321
I Anar-Kalii, page of tbe emperor of Hinduttait 385
I Angeb (Michael), '* Last Judgment/' 253 #
Anglesey (Marqtiw of), anecdote, 196
1 Anglo- Scot U9 on William Baiiol^ 432
I Bothwell (Franeia, Earl of), 177
Brtuse (Robert), bone^ and ooffin-nalU, 379
I FraBar; Frieel, 330
Laird, who Ih one? 243
Friory of St. Ethernnn, 376
I R-ger (Sir William), Knt., 242
I Spitten Lai nl, 310
" Anima Chriati,*' its antboi, 322, 374,506
Anne (Queen), filty new cLurcheji, I12j eonrtspondence
I with MadaiTie de Malntenon, 188
I Anne of Denmark, consort of James I., engraving, 53*
Anonym one Worka: —
Barnes (Betty), her History. 342
Bertrand, or ^lemoira of a Kortbumbrmn Noblft-
roan, 95
Confoawoufl of a Gam«ater. 474
CoQcilUid, iatirical poem, 161, 270
Eaoayi on the Sources of Fleasufe from Liteftttj*
Compositions, 474
Essays, Divine, Moral, and Political, 418
Exerciises, Instructive and Enteruinitii;, 403
• First Impressions, or a Dav In India, 266, 354
Fox s &Iartyrf , a satire, 383
History of Edward IL, 1680, 298
Jesaamy (Jenny), her History, 342
Juhnson (Dr. Sarnuel), L'jfe, 43
JudgiTient on a TLrctjfoI ! Order of Bibbop*, 19^
Lay of the Scoitl&b Fiddle, 10
^ LexiphAnei, 15
Mary Magdaleu^s Tears wip't uif, 95
MeU Briianbtcns, 76
of an Old Wig, 474
556
INDEX.
f Ia<lex 9up|ile0«icto tke Ko««»m4
iQoeriM^ wltli No. 181^ Jalj li^ IfTL
Anonjmoas Worki :—
Pleasing ilelancbolj, 54
Poems on the Four Last Things, 535
Rome in the Nineteenth Centary, 33
Shrubs of Parnassos, 410, 44S, 549
Thirty Letters on Various Subjects, 474
Thoughts of PatriciuSf 97
Volume of Smoke in Two Poffi«, 474
Warreniana, 15
Whitehall, or the Days of George IV., 15
Anselm, abp. of Canterbury, lioea on his death, 364
Ansoa frigate, accounts of its wreck, 305
A. (0. S.) 00 Badger, 166
La Caracole, 34
Ap Collins on Grantham inn signs, 440
Applegath (Augustus), his death, 1 53
Arabic numerals in Wells oathedral, 282, 375
Arbuthnot, its pronunciation, 842, 419
Arbuthnot (Dr. Alexander), 8
Arc (Joan d'), her death, 409, 508
Ardueological Institute, collection of early printed
books, 422
Arcbe (Elixabeth de 1'), her dream, 409
Archer family, 387
Archer (George), BLD., his £unily, 365
Archer (T. H. S.) on the wreck of the *• Temple,"
365
Archer's Court in Kent, its ownen, 41
Arden family of Wilmcote, co. Warwick, 1 18, 169
ArgylfTamily, its history, 316
Armour, old fknoilies without coat, 344, 420, 481
Arnold (Dr. Thomas), allusion to a great mao, 209,
353
Art, the modem use of the word, 89, 224, 247
Arthurian localities, 281
Arthur's Wain, constellation of the Great Bear, 512
Arundel castle, origin of the name, 234
Arundello castle in Piedmont, 234
A. (^) on epigram by Samuel Bngtr*, 388
Rogers (Nehemiah), 77
Ashburcer family of Furness, 131, 227
Ashmolean Museum, lecttire on it, 67
A. (T.) on the meaning of fof^^ 217
Atheist's prophecy ful6Iled, 76
Atkinson (G.) on Hogarth's book-plates, 304
Atkinson (J. C.) on British scythed chariots, 460
Cleveland funeral uaage.^, 298
Sheffield folk-lore, 439
" Skerring upon a glave glattea/' 265
A. (T. S.) on R. P. Boirington, artist, 141
G. Camphausen, artist, 188
" The Prodigal Son," a print, 150
Attic talent, its value, 363
A. (T. V.) on the veto at papal elections, 163
Audley (Ralph) of Sandbach, 1 1 *
Auretti (Madlle.), dancer, portrait, 822
Aurora borealis, 106
Austin family, 342 ; arms, 75
Austin (T.), jun., on " The Lamentation of a Smner,"
376
Automaton chess-player, 63
Avery family pedigree, 161, 288 %
Avery (Parson), " Swan song," 20, 148, 288, 483
A. (W. E. A.) on automaton che>8-player, 63
Rosemary used tt funerals, 348
Simonidea and the " Codex Slnaitieus,'' 71 \
A. (W. E. A.) on tea, early ootioe of, 139
Witoheraft in 1868, 58
Axon (W. £. A.) on the first book printed in Has
Chester, 64
" HienisalemI my haj^ hooM," 151
Lines on the human ear, 384
Reasons for going to church, 99
Ayres family sumame, 386, 447, 507
B
B. (A.) on ** Summnm jos, somnia ii^juria," 4C0
Babel, the builders of, 316
Babies* bells, 21, 45, 138, 201, 291
Bacon (Francis), Baron Vemhun, his Queen's
ship, 188,291
Badger, a corn-dealer, 166, 245
Badwell Ash chnrch screen, 517
Bailee (John), loQgefity, 254
Baily (J.) on Rev. Nehemiah Rogers, 179
Bainbiidge (H. A.) on Leavenworth family, 864
Heraldic crest, 535
Selby family, 516
Baker (Mn. Barwick) on Wm. Fenwick, 235
BaUol (Sir Wm.), 802, 432, 506
Ballad airs, traditional, 355
Ballad printers' sucoessioD, 187
Ballasalley, origin of the name, 176, 318
Balloon post and the siege of Paris, 207, 270^ 275
Balloons and newspapen, 141
Ballycollitan, co. Tippenuy, 122
Bannister (J.) on Cornish spoken in Devooshii% 851
Baptism for the dead, 107, 263, 377
Baptismal customs in the HighUrnds, 51, 267
BaptisU (Joannes), " Commentaiy on Aristotle," 84S
Barbados parish registers, 887, 496
Barber (H.), M.D. on Bishop John Fell, 288
Lancashire funeral custoois, 281
Barber (John), king of Throstle Hall, 1 19
Barbers' forfeits, 22
Barker and Borford's panoramas, 279, 432
Barkley (G. W.) on churches in Roman camps, 14
Barnes (Dr. Albert), his death, 47
Bamingham church soreen, 517
Bams, mediaeval, 95, 224
Baron BailUe, his duties, 72
Bar-Point on an extraordinary memory, 471
Barrett (A. E.^ on Madlle. Auretti, 322
Barrington (R.) on " Stewing in their own grsty," fiW
Barrow in heraldry, 474, 527
Baskerville (Thomas), portrait, 429, 486
Bates (A. H.) on anonymous works^ 474
Etchings, 474
Bates (Wm.) on the aurora borealis, 106
Bookworm ravages, 846
" Eikon Basilike," its aathor, 225
EcsUtica of Caldaro, 193, 350
Eraser's gallery of portraits, 21 1
Hair growing after death, 181
Hervey (Rev. James) and Hogarth, 255
Mont Valdrien, 135
Nicholson (Ronton) <' Baron,*' 286
Parodies, works on, 15, 177
Royal topography, 20
Sun never sets on British dominiom^ 482 j
Thomson ( Janies), a Dmid, 485
INDEX
557
»
iths and wells of Britttm, 497
iiutar (CljarJej) on a Datcfc neirtpaper, 339
(a W.) on ** Comes to gri<" 526
(D,) on Che? imiDco or cbcvi&anct, 447
Dmm^ an evtnrfng ptrt^, 526
lie r J.) on BalUaalley, 176
Chaw ban explained, 74
CrjptagTiiphf, 291
Tjnwald Hill, Iil« of )fan, 93
baiting, 138
«an. a pbot, 256, 350, 420
(W.) oo Laird, 32&
leaachamp family arma, 219, 342, 442
toelerk (James LordX 3
mmoul (Mary)^ mother of the Ut Doke of Bockiag-
liam, 469, 544
Beantle.'t of England and Wales,** pbna, 34
iecket (Thomaa \), mnrdermj, 33, 171, 19!^, 268,
395, 464
kfcrd (Wm). HieoNiy't tranalatfoo of "V»tl»k,"
35, U.% 174,244
i«cqiicrpl (M.), his death. 275
;B«de (Cuthbert) <m Chrifittrrw Qiamtneiii, Ac, 52
French pigeons driren to England, 341
GlaltOD, a ship, 548
"Heart of bearte," 548
Keadyboof or Rediongh family, 301
Wpftther saying, 399
! md ctiMoms^ 50
^e^i' ), d«K«Ddants, 104, 199
n!>ui ciiutvti i^creen, 516
lo (Gtjorge) on Criaa-croeo row, 41 S
Den, a local ti^fmiiiatlim, 397
Hahcmiflii of Ihe dden time^ 1 74
(Louia tod), pttroirtBge, 257, 3^
B«l|^ue on Mvdical Order of St. Jolin, 235
B«l!, tlic passmgt 388, 499
Bell-h»rp, a Tnn«««l instnimenty 309
Bell-ringings 110,388^
Belk of St. PeterV at Rome; Kremlin at Moseow; and
St. Paal'e^ Loadon, th«r weight, 11; St. Midiiel'B,
CoTHitry, 45; legend tm, 95; aneedote of OB^al tht
Boyal Ex&haogff 110; inemoriAl, at 3b 1>9mttnn\
Stepney^ 511
Belle (,1a) Dame sans Mtrei,** potfm, 324^ 399
Bflltfi (B. B.) on Kmg*« Oiitleg<», New Ywk, 2W9
Ward ^Bunlly ■nn«, 275
Berkeley family arm^^ 537, 53S
Berlichtngea (Gdtt von), 50*
Bewick (John), engrwiifa^ 365
BenzHt a cdfl, 208-
B, (F.) on tlie Paterson family, 60
B. (H. £.) <'*> MaidMtweU, dvat Louth, 389
Bible, tfa« Bishops' ^'^?rBioo uaed ■- *'^'" ' — ^ftlatofs ©t
tlM authorised venFio?i, 74; revt ^nlkn^mf
^frnmo, 181 ; the Vnlgate, ed. i , lilt imp^
Jame^ h, 534; works on itfl histoiy, 5^9 ; Gritictl
CommeiDtajry, 551
Bible illtetn^ionfl, 11
Biblical Arobawlogitjal liodetf, 2U2, 552
BIblioftlieear. Obalbaai. oo boptistn ftir the dml, 107
0iiidi0*8 Aurora, print, 11 3, 29S
" One swallow doee not make a iummer/' 292
Pisnphlelf its dymokgy, 439
*^ VeriLii in puleo," 312
Biffin and pi^, 588
BUbooB the descent of Daniel O^Oonoell, 348; 48$
BUU actudly presented, 32, 132, 269
Bitaton legend, 71, 197,248
Bingham (C. W.) oa the book^Torm, 65
CbarchUl (Mrst Maty), 2M, 524
Loogerily, 280
Memory of smells, 418
Portugoew o^per e<olo, 344 '
Samplsf? poesy, 19$
Thread buttons, 94
*' Bioigraphia Briiannioa,** 1747-66, Kippia't* copy, 340
Biographical lieference Ditrtionazy, 161, 402^ 551
Biographies, wrong dates in, 46| 80« 183| 270
Bireh family, 534
Bin (Peter), psdigrse, 122
B. (JOf GUtsffouf, on tb» MlttoQio spitepli, 94
B. (X li.) m '* Heart of bSMrta,'' 399
B. (J, M.) on Parson Avery% Sw»q sonj^, 148
B. (X li.) on Arnold*a aUiksiofn to a great man, 209
353
Carmelites, 383
Cromwell note, 429
Dry den's agreement for hb Virgin 197
Edw&ids (George), 388
Ferrers (Lady), b&lldd of, 445
Jamieaon (Alemander), 219
Parker (Robert and 1 homai), 475
Blaekett (Henry), his daatb, 228
Blackfriars' tbeatrv, 183
Blackie and Son on dates in biogmphies, 4$, ]33
Blaekkaoh (Bp. HmnX of Sodor and Man, 34 ,
Bladss (WmO on the bookworm, 263
Blair (D.) on Enamoored, oa a verb, 429
Ewiyd'e rittwa on the Apocalypse, 175 •
Fairy changelings, 283
Hampshire country cbnrehyard. 174
Holty, the German poet, 174
Jones (Sir Willlan.) •• Alcaic Ode," 454
Matnrtn (Bor* C. K.), 454
Memory of smells, 413
Prophecies by Noatradamns, &&, 542
Songs and ballads, 398
" The wtwid'a jodgmenf," flte,, 458
Blair (Robert), « The Grave," 441
Bluachard (H. L.) on Baron NiohalsoD, 327
Ble«kl»y family, 141
Blenkinsopp (B. L.) on Goor^ge Daniol, 63
Gwiona engraring, 98
Eaitern story, 131
French word for ** to rtde,*^ 431
Grantham inn signs, 343
St Wttlfran, 270
Simooides, 179
" Blink," or ** wink," their cormjt too, 325, 459
Block booki, Ibeir hiatory, 13, 151, 217» 832
Bhcdf « aliowfr«f, 47
Bluebeard, ongiu of the story, 29
Bine books, 12S, 199
Blue Lsws of Conooctieot, 16, 64, 191
B. (M* A.) on corrupt Engiisb, 142
*• Whether or no^" 485
Wink or blmk, 325
BoASe (G. C.) on the Bet. John Enty, 55
Foote's " Piety in Pattens," 161
Bobadil, Ben Jodsod^s boliy, 208
Booisetree, 634
Andttiffffi Amtomm of giwaiii^, 40i^ 443
AMcm*s Dramatic Alnnmck for 1871, 86
Aaiibee'« ikcuioiiAl Beprintt, 508
Ajcoo's LRRCftshire Folk*Socig, 274
Bsilejr OQ the Angliun EpiaoopAte, 467
Bmrtbolotiiew's StnJent'i At) as, 1t5
Bible, ibo Authorised, ifith« Comment^rr, 551
Bloomfield (Bohert), Comepondence, 43S
fioowickt (AnibFOee)^ hin Life, 114
BookwOTtii, 115, 154,227
Bojd^a ReD)iol!iceDc«a of Fifty Year*, 316
Brooke on tlie Voysej Jadgmtnt, 447
Cifcleiidar of St»te Papew, Domwtic, EUs^betlij
1601 1603 ; Fomgn, Elix»b«th, 1 564-5^
Fwtjign and Domeatic, Henry VJIf.; GoloiDiHl}
Eoat Indies, ChlDa^ aod Japnn^ 1617-1621^
180
Cajnden Knioellafiy^ vol. vi., 354
Cftrr'a Stoiy of Sir Richard Whittingtoo, 45
CbAQCcr'a Canterbary Tales, the Prologue, 3M
Chronicles and Afemoriala of Great Britain and
Irelaod; Hardy's Catalcgoe of Materiala, 335;
Williain of Majuieabury; Hiatoric Docntnente of
Ireland, 380
Claijde the CJoIpode&r, 47
OpMck'a History of Kerry, 364
Dame £aropa'i» School, 181
DaTooportf Lord-Lieutenaxii and Higb-Sberitf, 422
Debrett'a Illiistnited Houae of Cocntnona, 153
Debrtti'a Peerage and Haronetage, 114
Delapierre^ La Parodie chcz lefs Grecs^ &«», 296
D«flchaners Treatise on Katiiral Philosophy, 134
Dictionary (Library) of English Langaage, 25
Early Eogliah Tciit Society: England in the Reign
of Henry \T11L A Snppllcacyon for the Beggars^
315
Eden, The Kite without a DragomaD, 562
Engliah'a Orowlaod and Burgh^ 27i
Fairboti'a Rambles of an Archosologi&t, 274
Felton'a Gaido to Tanbridge WelU, 487
Fiahwick*« Chapelry of Gooenargh, 153
Fofiytb*a Koreii and NoTdiata, 246
i
r
'^M'V
u
Bootrfm church K!('V!r»r»1 t
Bothwell(Fr.
Bgachier (J
Soonet qaedoti 456 i '.
Boagbs before doors, 107 -
B-oiuiie and Croft fanitlii^, 256
Boftj (John), family, 11, 170
OWW3 Hdll eafeit«#, K««x, 11*9 r-
owjwin (Kubm), AH 4i^ged centenfifiau, ^8» 67 ;
I and curUie«, 109, 220, 330, 444
r yaLop of ihe rri»ptg]iada| 21
1 (E. L.) OP i" Wboi ItiUUi doth poyetyn ^vi.i,t 4 4'^^
Bojle (E. W.) on Joha Bovej. 1 1
Irkh House ;c»f Cotmnoiu' Jwt^, 323
Moomiag paper, 30&
^Ipwkeiilbergiiu* '' Treatise on >^osee,*' 1^5
Tein'pk fuDilj ann&, 104
■ I (Sir H..i..-^rt\ yJB^t to Iftiliiak|,285» 3S2
313
ihirty days luiUi Spplemlwr/* 5^
iiiiiii^iu York^kii, 257
dichuroli e^ocD, i3I6
a, its siege io 1 €24, J53
. (B. H. DO on tlie oAtaooQik cf Parii, 22
■ t (F. D,) on tho 6l>i"' --']m^-t, 46
lofBal^jIon, 493
_ Kiw jinne, 40»
Brltiib Ma^eum Keadiiig-r«0cu grieviuioe, 402
Britten (J&mea) on ^Dwigl^l DguglasI tender and
troe,^ 23
SpitheU of ike montbi;, 445
£.AVi^«<V» baby,** 885
, l>Wiilll«n (Ladj), h«r ^nre, 1 29
.: fijMimtDrt^ a nJaiik, 244, 463
Sheffield fulk-lore, 299
StroliwUtwe, 44t)
gBnrwia* •* Grete Herbair 162. 403
Voodoni^m, origjiii of the trroi, 1210
I (Dr. TbgophUiw), deati of KtlhU, 137
Irodefiek UmWf^ 474
I bridge, an exliibUiau, IGO, S9S
I (John) on GmTith^m, iJittg Bkaetows, 44^
I CSWfliy) <•' ii? huinen wr, 204
I (Ber. Thoma;.;, D»r>grapiiy, 342, 417
bj(J4hQ Car£iU)i tibnirlui d' tlje London la^tltu-
, 4n?
b^ uod the itaj «f Mre. Kigbtiaijiile,
76, 378, 402; hli bo&t 2 13
Fell< 283
-;o4
u 117 i ; n ! 1 1 'is prophec V, 535
31
, -u ..a«) of Archer')* Court, 4 1
r (ftubert), boMS aud cofliii^nails, '>97. 378
gr^ (h%) Aiid the book^lkr';> di^ughlcr. 207
. (T. H.) on trrcck^i, 305
Portrait pfttntiiy:, 324
udungbam (Geo. VOyera^ Ut Dnka of), ii::^ JS»oL\jf r,
469. 544
|o:rkley (HoT, T, A. Wat.>«ba«Mj tobdar, .134
'nekton (T. J.) on Zodiac of Denderab, G5
'ir»r. >>i/
Buff (A,) en f^
; IndkiHtrit^
6 limbo, or ^u
Bnrfr, its deri V [
Borford's panoiin:^.-,. * ; ..
Burgoyne (Sir John), ily:
lines hy him, 451 ^
Borkouebi (Philip), sic^h ;
Biimet Thotnas), satire on . 1 , ^
Bums (Robert), reSicf attd klli^ 44^1^1 .^r^.^^-^uid. 1
hang Syne,'' 386, 501
Burton (Mies Rachel), eatli - "'^ '**^ Ji-ooH
Bnseche (Etn, Vandeo) on ^
Botier (Cbftrki), Biue aad .. . — , :.-
Butler (Om^), order Ag^Hi^t the i^diw of New Qrie*ns,
363
Butler (Mrs. Mttr7)j s ceiiUnari/in, IfiO .^
Buttery (Albert) (KrChri*L«i partniit, 34 j[
Henry Vlli. and. tlifc r: : 3 ,,
Stamp on picture CAtr , j
Buttona, lftwr« reUiiog to, T ji
B. ( W, C.) 0^ Johji Deak i|
Beauty bat akin-daep, ^
Chap books, 302 \
Frencb Ritst«ix*p]a^f IS4 -^
B. (W. D.) on '^ Cap, ; • ' *
B. (W, E()pn4brft K 40;*
SL Wnlfran. 44^
WtapbraMj 223
D. (Wt 11.) m a vrhiih^'ft rU> at fiviroenta, 33* ^4
Byron (George Gordon, 6tli Lord), the young gallatit
Howard in "ChiWe EUruW* 4a3^«Tri*w of bi»
*' Englinh Bardi," 2;^^ im, W,4W, 44 1
q. on catlied^l liclla, 1)
, Jkougbaoi (Lord): asd \>lu&rft 352
Dnnby (Enrl of) and Lord ArJiDgtQo, 36^
Ghost story. 453
Kingatoti (Karl of) and Oldham, flSB
LondoD in Octol^Tt 5U»
Troi ei\}oymflnt, 492 1
C&lais and Sir Gilbert Tulbut ia 1512, I3£> >J
Oaldaro, tl^i E< h^ika. 21, 123, li»3, 341 1
Onlihan. .c, 56, lJi>
Oalw>- 62. 103^ ill ft, 372
Gninn (Jalmj uiid St^rvclus, 141
Onmbqdg^i Qew ediUoci of Uw UoiTecutj *'0^jdili-
tiones/" 153
Oumbridge Philological &jcirty, 336
0 em den Sooietj, gentfrA] nhvtlui.. 402
Cameron (Donald) •' {
Campbell , (Lord), It i. 3T3,
466 ,y
Oamphaoflen (0.)> Vtt«t» ISS, 312
OanDdian novel, 26
OaarCint A danee, 108
Oanms tho poet, hia iVngst,,....., .;,^
Canoiog (George) and Lord I>ad|6y, l%\
CsDDon, ita derirajiijo, 58, 150
Canterbury (G«>rge)»,hi9 " Wili;'Afcaie, 357
Gapers and muttou, IdO
damcole, \\b mesnin , ' " ' '
Oarcw (W, II, r.) . t
Caricatures: '* The li. . .. ......,..-,. -,_ :^ .t^elir"
493; *' Ex luce luceUum,' 512
UUMf ^Am^iOtCltt, 41* 21 7 u > ., ...-_.'. I
CatiU] (John), ■ centenarian, 301
C« (C.) on n scripit, 201
Gmsot find Galsc^ 270
U O»r«colej 343
Moaeieor, mon«itQr) 311
G. (C. D.) on Airne GhapmnHf 234
Gompetitors for the Scottish cn>wn, 3G3
LeeXRoT. Timothy), rooniuiieiit, 304
Stow-in-llif.Wold, 344
C. (C. G.) OD BobUm : Omhr&^ 398
Q. (G, H.) an Loid Pluak«t jLud the boui>£lii&s, &3
C, (E*) on curicius precursors of the Pretender, 139
MonUga (L(uly Mary Wankj)| buJtftJ, 207
Ode of Arthui Grev, 375
C. (E. B.) on '* The ftUid of Rje," 390
GelUoi (Beaveuuto), tirma, 266
CelticiiPt ^lifi doctrine of, 349^ S25
Ceiiteii«rui[ii»Tp< Ste LQ^/evity
Ottrmmic art^ work on it, 336
^G«rto«iao^ its m«MiiDg« 19, 400 ,^
GenraDteSf new edition of " Don Qaixoti*,^ 275
G. (F. W*)on La Caracole, 149
C. (G.>^m T, BukerviUoij portrait, 459
C, (G. A,) OD folk-lore^ the tlowworm, 547
Legal commomplacscs J'^m/I^ James L, 83
PAJntiDg in S^rstoQ obufch, 245
St. «bbrevialed to T, 550
C. (G. H.) on Lord Pluokot, 265
G* (H.) on the plant Liu^un Auaetw, 333
Trevem' *' Gr<Ke Herbal I/' 333
GhAinneu, hints to, 55, 176
GUIlooer (Dp. Ricliard), "^ Giirdeo of the Soul^ 513
Chambers (Eobert), LLO., his dealh, 274
ChftQce (F.) on Biffin and f\fSa, 533
Gleopntra, 49a
Plica Polouica, 539
Bealm, it* ditleront hrvas, 370
St, abbreviated to T, 479
Gbap*booki!^ 303
Cfaapmau ^f John), hia danght^r?, ^4, 334
11 i'lay— \
i
i
1W#^
Mflil
o
~Chr
CLinese raddera of »iiipa, 1&2
C. (H. M.) OD consecmliiii; rti J^l'
Chowier, 4 Mvoary dish, 85
CbrUt (J«ei30), |>ortr«it» ^i
Chri&t -cross A B C, 418
~^bnbtmis mnmni«irB,Aii(J^,pioujy^'WU ^45
Sbn^tmiu carol^ 23
Chmtmai schoolboy piecs-s 145»90), 351 ^ I'y^
Chrooido of evenis in 1870, a5
Chronologer of tLe *' = '-' T ., 1 .. it'^
C. (H. a) on toaJ
Church, Botne reas
"rhurch (W. M. H.) on Au*tin fiimilj'. Ui
ArniB of Jentiour, 55
nreliM, dedication of, 3SS, ' '^.v ones
in Loddon, 112; in Surrey, -, 476;
irithifi Rooian cn~ 7- 1< "'
hurcUill (Lord) ures, 416
urchill (Mrs, Mj- ;, ll Mini erne cliurch,
234, 417, 524
, (H. W.) on 9, Litin p^ivtrb, 56
iiitin^of "Sl Fmnck"27()
^loiii. slippjcr, 196 ^
'i^iiitr vi\v ' ' . "_""Jl^ 377
SwUrciaa u : EngUn.J, 141, 263
J, (JOor> 1 Akuck, 122
NctI]1 1 Latimer, hla wife, 90
NoeI(i:. 12-1 ■•■
L (J. H.) on Dr, \\ iJiam King, 388
•* RoUkd," with notea, 540
(J. L,) on Lflrd and LaUj Dome, 2?3
C, (J- M.) on gfiftta titlng, S52 ) '* |
C. {J. R) cm crypt ograpliy, 1 55 |
Ckrke (Mn. Hftrriei), her loni^tvity, 51 1
CUrke (Hyde) 00 lion flhillixig>, IS7
!l MaJc and female nunibcid and letters, 407
I Midw, origin of the name, 429
Saeezing, 301
Thonder, 429
Clarke (Somery), Jon., on compktiiiu of St. Puura, 241
pUtry oU u newly. b>rrj cLiLi crying, 289
[ Ciin,,;,!,.^:: CLor,o. Li>- .A Lor.i Lrisdhurst, 373
' ■
Coldinghain pi
Cole family, I
Coleridjye (S,
^leburae (Wnj-), of Tlppcrary. iir.ir
477
Cl«'op*tra! wa4»he Egyptian kw Gi
Cleveland f BjrLir.u r>'iK]:i-..s .>r), \\\\
Ix
^ivck. /in usuoijuiuip*!, 322, ii50
^ T beef explained, 512
vri,
429, 50G
\ 397, 5tB
■ ,■,!■ r.t" ArbuLL...... .-.^
. (M. M.^ on pictarii < i4ee%'es, 475
, (C) ota govemora of . '.♦
MiaiatDro pinter imkfi. CJuiiicj L, 474
Cobblers* lamps in luly, II, 152, 245
Cocker (Edward). « The Pen's Gatlantry," 407
Codd (Mrs. Shirley Murse), a cciitcnarinn, 160
Cofffee-hotiijea of London, 5
Cokts, elevcn^shilling pi<}ce$ of Charlej I.^ 55, 148,
442, 4fl6; dcnariua of Droana, sen., 95, 143, 14S;
L Bltilium and oboluB, 143 i Fortngac^o copper, 344
:"^ 187,311.379
,,,-..i.209 '
(JoJot CJoha), dctm ot Si. Pfliii's, 281
Colvtl<s (P. L.) on Robert Keck'd portrait, 12
Common Prayer Book uf tb^ Church of EngUod, «dit*
1732, JOD; the SeitJ.-d Book photo*ftinCogrBphi«i«d ,
47; Sturt's edition, 1717, 283, 351
Cock-fighting a cen(:iify ago, 108
Congresaioonl library ^ 153
Congrev* (Wm,), who was " D-iri-i "? .1B3
Connecticut, its " Blue Lair*/' 16, «♦, 191
Coosoh defined; 492
Coaatablc (Henry), paasag- in, 23:1
Canatantine, his ch&racter^ 303, 349
Constantinople, the Hall uf Wulers, 1 : <X<Q-
man dub, 181
Conway, origin of the namcL 61
Cook(Capt), hjA tbroslies. 3^7
Cjoka (Chr.) on LoniJoii < ' M
Cookea, Cookesey , and r \ \\ t\ 0^ 523
Cookes (H. W.) o« * *%s. 11
Corbottfamily of Oi 8
Cor Caroli^ a donh!c y tu, i-5
Coik Cuvicrian and ArchatoIoglcjilSocf' *v\ 17
Cornell family, 343, 446
Corney (Boltoo), sate uf his library, 552
Comi:sb spoken in Det^jHshire, 11, 126, 353; Gl^tsary,
126
Cornab. on Oar Lady of Hdy4rell, 175
Cottell (W. IL) on Broderick ftimily^ 474
Cottlo the ^t, 493
Cottcrill (H- B.) on r» »» rr-.Tv ^►f f>iA clooda, 3n
Cattle (Amoi). pOe^ " tilery/' Aht
Chjtlle (Joseph) of li, , 493
Conch (Edward) Jiis iuageviiy, 120,200
Coach (T. Q.) m geheratiijna within Ttting tt^emotry,
387 '-'
Couftenay (Wm. de), 26a p
CourUey (W. P.) on Her, Samuel Hc«.ity, 174 '^
" Coutumicr of the O.der of Htm Bl«««ei! Vif^ifl Hiirv/'
322
Coventry, bells of 1^'
Cowper (J. M) on j >
Anonyni-' ;
Bumbo :
. '* WheUier or no," 373 TvnniirfO
A (RO, r(?rJt, on bar^fi^n for Ihe ae^J:^?^^^*^
Book wonn » 4 62 ' wiMlO
Kile and tlie B/b!e, 314 ' «MlK>
Picbltr, a g«m engir ^
a (8*) (ient, aoUior of ' tl-V ^ 7
C r*cow un i versi cy , i is ^K\t « ; 1 .1 1 u '^n: ui 1 ' ''
Crag, a local affix, 360
Criinfurds of Newark, l);irtmel:i, 343, "j ; ^
Cij.w(brd (John) on blink rer, wtnk, 45.* -^
Crawl«y rpr. CrawliT', a prcibate Cusc, 2:*9 "^
Crcighton (Dr. IJobert), on th? Council yf FJi^i-eiii-'e, 142
CroHta, assamptiou of more th tn one, 257, ^553, 443,
305
Crtvpinus, his arms, 4fi'9
Criticism, oniulored, 271, 3S7
Critics described, 490
Crivelli (Carlo), life and work^, 161, 270
Croft fiimily of Croft c«sU«, 255 ^
,562
/I:^(P,firX.
{Ia4ex Siwi>leuient to tlie KoCe^nd
Cromwell family, 429, 481
Cromwell (Oliver), letter.. .to tLa.£mfcn>r Spltin.^Ai-
homet, 199t 2^L^ meuotuit, 374; iioose on Bxifton
Ribc, 468;' htUif of Jt^eb. 4, 1650- 1, 474 f siippoebd
descendants, 246j 429 1 medals, 495; af^htment'of
Thomas Simon as medal maker, 515
Croqois (Alfred), i.<?. Daniel Modibe, 213
Crofisley (James) on an. old bpiUad, 322
Go^smiUt (OUwr), iuediUd elegy, 66^ 131 i
'' Hi8toi7 of Edward 11.. 1680,*' 998
Growland abbey, its history, 274
Crowquill (Alfred), *,«. Alfred Henry Forrster, 2U
Craiksbank.Georgfl), illustrations iQ Boscce's '* Novel-
ists' Library,'* 40
Cryptography, 155, 291, 377
C. (T.Jon Bp. Gibson's wife and mother, ?&
C. (T. E.) on the canal of Xerxes, 97
C. (T. W.) on Hoelty, the German poet, 244
Millon (Jean de). 495
■" Pen of an angei'a wing," 312
" Slewing in tlwir own gravy," 379
Cucumber, its deriralioD, 19, 108
Cul, Coni, a local prefix, 495
Cumble, its derivation, 482
ConniDgliam, origin of the eornamo, 221, 347
Cunningham (F.) on lines omitted in ** Comoa," 384
Cun-btone, its derivation, 61
Cuvier (Clementine), biography, 408
C. (W.), Jiichniondf on London citiTce houMS, 5
C. (W. A. B.) on " Bos hoc vocari debet," &L, 149
The Septuagint, 515
C. (W. D,) on Sydney Godolphic, 364
C. (W. M H.) ofl Austin faujly, 75
Average of linman Ufc, 10
Chailemagoe arm;, 75
Dauhygn^ monument, 54
Hampden family, 189, 441
Ueruldif, 409
Mortimer pedigree, 12
MoiiUioent in Kentxtt cLurcb, 140
Pipe Bull, 5 Stei^hcn, 236
Cywrni on orders of knlgIj.i,OLd, 10 1, 441
Song, "Lanriger licrMtiuH," 39S
D. on IIi(;li.jiriks, a tipi^y inerriuitnt, 4^7 •
Memory of sm4ll:>, 414
Mourning writini:- paper, 378
Thundt-rer of '* Th« Times," 524
Dacier (Andrew), noticed, 427
Dalby (J. \V.) on Geor^-e Daniel, C3
D'Almeyda (Don Frat9t'is:, 101
Dalryinple (John), noticed, 286j 46;J
Dandy rolls, 534
Daniel (George), editor cf CuLiUiland'l 'British
Theatre," C3, 84, 113
Danish couit head-.lrte,^, M
Dante literature, 354
Darwin (C. B-X uia theory in Java, 533
Diiteii, discrepaocres in, 9
Dtubygne (Sir John), r.ouumont at Brize^Nviion, 54
Davies (T. L. 0.) oa prouuuciutiou of Greek atel Litjn.
178
" The Poetic Miiror," 177
Dawes (Alp, Wm.), fond <4 punning, 106
Dajkin. (F. M.) m iht BircU family , 5A4i
D. (E. ^).GO Butff or burf, 379, .. y .. ? . -
fiil8et'gTuuititie8,.35p . ./^ \'' ' . ,f'
Hames^ken^ 33^ . "'''.'■.'■
Phrase, " Comes to griefi" 4ia' ,"
Song, " Old woman, old womtin," 196
Wray (Daniel), 372
Deacon (yVm. Fr^ick), *'W»rmiiaija," 15
"* Deaf dd w*omaD,7 Hnes oni 75, 796
Dean (S. A« U.) on Christmas piieee8,'462
Death by torture for imputed beresr, 30^
De Bohan family, 24, 150
Deed, ancient SootUsh, 19
De Foe (Daniel), qooUtloos ia "Rbbixtson Crnsoe,'*
426
Defoe (Mercy) of Moochester,' 34 .
De la Soie (GL) oh the marine rotf, 4$
Demoniacs, works on, 109
Den, as a local teooination, 397
Deniuias of Dnisus, sen., coin, 95/354
Denbigh, origin of the name, 61
Denison (John), his works, 162
Denney (Andrew), Greek couplet, 76
Denton (Sir Alexander), Iuyali&t,.323
^ " De profundis," its early use, 495 .
Derby (Henry Stinley, 4th Earl of), aricdofe^ 388
Derby (Thomas Stanley, 2nd Ear] oOt.^k King of
Man, 250 *
'* Der relegirte Kobbold," 55"
D. (E. S.) on Maidenwell, near Loath, 548 .
DtyjH bents his wife, 25, 400
Dexter (timothy), Ameiican merchant, 174
D. (F. H.^ on " Pigs may fly," &c., 41 .
pi (0* f J on epitaph in "Wing qhiirch^ 53
D. (H. P.) on Epigram : " As Cyril ami Nalfiw,'' 442
Epigram on the Walcheren expedition, 18
Fell (Dean Samuel), 352 .
Punning and jesting on names, 313
Titlers of siigar, 224
Winter saying, 18
Wray (Daniel), 372
D. (H. W.) on China mania, 73
Derby porcelain, 75
Diaz (Bartolomao), discoverer of the Cape Boute, 102.
195,313
Dibdin (E, TL) un Hvauiv ilecp, 41\)
Bhk (HoEi^tt), " The Grave," 441
Dib4in<0L T, R), '' Bibrb>graplLv«U D*can:eren,' 256
Dickens CChatlea), ctpyyjghts of his worit?,- 134
Diez (Dojijja Juliji£&)| Portugncsc beauty, 34
Djgftnuii«j. 414, U\ . ' . ,
Dighioii (Evhch}, ca^paturist, 41S
Disraeli (f^aac) and ^unlj, 300
Dis-spirit^ its old ;*ud nwdem mewuing, V$6, 1^4,377
Ditchfield (J. B.) on " Memoirea ce Cautfiova,'' io
Dixon (S.) on " After me the 4'*luge," 18$
. BalUd of Lady Ferrers, 334
Gnizot and Guise, 333
Hair growing after deatli, l30, 315" ■' .
Dixon (James Henry) on Ballad priiueu'
187
Byron's ** Erglijjh Bards," . 106, 351.
CjBrtosino, its meaning, 19 . ^ .
Gobblers' lamps in Iia|^% 11. ' - . . .
. Convivial scngs^ 58. ,. v \
« E»" |«d " En." 1 93 . . . ";/ ,'■ ' ■;
In^T 8iip|>Ietii«Qt to the T^atet and \
Qucrlet, wlib Ko. Iflfi, July IS, 1«7L >
INDEX.
563
Dixon (Jnmea Henry) on Manchester efaip-bookflp 1 10
ATiasftle ad mum LjiusaDDensem, 124
Fotten of the uortherD counties, 96
Scriptut, 146
Swiss spring song, 231
" The He«vjng of tht tend/' 55
Ww song: An Imperial Letter, 145
D. (M.) on Babylonian bricks, 493
Bear-lailing, 138
Bwiiy sWp, 143
Ghl]ies« mddera of ships, 162
DtlineatioDs of the dragon, 12
Eatfttica of Caldano^ 123
Gipsy cookery^ 121
Heraldry of Smith families, 43
Inkstand of Wedgwood wjirc, 163
Kay (Jobn), portrait, 173
Macaroon, its derivation, 364
Marbiiry Dan, a fanied home, 535
Military chevron, 475
P> A. L's oommntii cations, 156
Pools, or months of streams, 12
Proverbs, 406
Pumps, low-heeled shoes, 389
Scripsit, 201
Snmames in Domesday Book, 320
The Grecian bend, 513
Tom Tiddler's ground, 57
Yorkshire Prayer-book, 13
Dobson (Thotnns) on the meaning of Kipper, 543
" DocBiuentofi Arabicoa," 303
D^inger (Dr. J. J. Ip^atiua ran), Oxford degree, 487
•* Dolopalbosi or, the King and the Seven Wise Men,"*
111
Domesday Book, its surnames, 320; its kodon^rier's
representatives, 208
Don on Eastern story of a heavy b!ab, 12
War medals, 13
Donne (Dr. John), " Pq«ms," AH] letter ia Walton's
Life of him, 536
Dore, a family name, its derivation, 453
Dome (Lord and Lady), 2S3
Donglas (W. S.) on Bams' "Kicht Gnde-Wiilie
Waucbt," 501
Donr, or Dur, a local prefix, 22, 152
DoTer castle, smugglers hung in front of it, 364, 445
Downing (ilrs Harriet) ^ Irish poetess, 142, 289
Doxat (Lewii), his age, 408
Doyll on Enphah queen buried at Porto Fino, 208
Spenser s " Hymn of Heavenly Beauty," 220
Dragon, earliest delineation, 12, 1 25^ 174, 200, 214
Dramas, political satirical, 491
Dramatic Almanack for 1871, 66
Drennan (W. It) on gipsies in Ireland, 110
Druidical history, 487
Drom, an evening party, its derivation, 453, 526
Drumlanrig (tha Laird' of), 190. 310
Dmry Lane, the Bear tavern, 363
Dryden (John), ptstaga in ** Absalom and Achitophcl,"
532
D. (T.), on George London, 444
Dmule (D, Jacobo), collection of pictures, 364
DobUn, Gennan Lutlieran church, 545
Dudley and W*rd (John, 2nd Viscount), portrait, 235
Dagdale (Wm.), alioaiona in bis ** History of St,
PaalV28l
*' Dalce Domnm," 140
Dan, as a local prefix, 104
Dunkin (A. S.), on barben^ forfeits, 22
Balloons and newspapers, 141
Doer or Dcir, a local prefix, 152
Lancashire wilchea, 504
Parodies, work on, 105
Eederiffe, in Surrey, 25
Dunkin (Edwin) on prints of Stonelienge, 36
Donkin (E. H, W.) on Feock church registers, 232
Dunn (Sarah), a centenarian, 159
Dur, or Dour, a local prefix, 22, 152
Dutch newspaper, 1652, 339; periodical, « 0. le
Eenw," 163
D* (W,) on collections for history of Inns, 512
3fary Queen of Scots' imprisonments, 526
Scotch newspsper^ 390
Thomson (James), a d raid, 401
D- (W. G.) on the Ghisgow noddy, 165
Gnat t'. mosquitoes, 416
D, (W. T, T,) on Charles IL mt Malpas, 295
Dyer (Sir Edward), "Sixe Idyllia,^' 494
Dyer (John), poet, 232, 353, 443, 524, 546
Dyer (Samuel), his portrait, 232
Dymond (R.) on Gary's ** Patasologia Chronica," 271
Bishop Mordecai Gary, 376
Ear, lioei m the human, 235, 264, 334, 369
Eastern story of a heavy slab, 12, 131
Eating to excess, 429
Eboracum on the Rhombus and Scaras, 376
Eclipses, popular method of observing, 472
Ecstatics, works on, 21, 123, 193, 350
E. (D. CO on Robert do Comyn, 19
Edward L, marriages of his daughter*, 204
Edward IL, " History," 298
Edward IV„ letter dated Dee. 10, 1460, 229, 312, 417
Edward the Confessor and the ring, 474
Edwards (George), ad. 1545, 388, 464
Eff on " Agreeing to diSer," 512
Bookworm, 462
Phelps (E. S.), " Gsles Ajar," 452
Roscoe's "* Life of William Roscoc," 471
Effessea on Sir Thomas Sewell, 376
E. (G.) on Bobadil, 203
Congreve and Wycherley, 486
Himpden family, 273
Milton and homceopathy, 54
Nile, its overflowings, 186
Plica FoJonica. 475
Length of hair in men and women, 475
Repentant thief, 490
Wellington (Duke of), anecdote, 490
E* (G. F. S.) on "*Ti8 better to have loved and lost,"
376
Egcrtou (Sir Charles), Kut^ 12
Eggs as an article of food, 409, 464
E, (H. TO on •* The Shrubs of Parnasaos," 410
** Eikon Baaihke,** authorship, 9, 225
Eirionnach on quotations in " Itobinson Orusoo," 42 G
E. (K- P. DO on centenarians, 159
Diaz (Bartolomao) and the Cnpe route, 195
Indexes, their utility, 42
Lincolnshire drinking song, 454
Seizure of chattels under an heriot, 302
564
INDEX.
rikid«x6iipiil«BeBtlotli»«aimiMd '
t QBttfM, with No^aiw JalF IK un.
Eleanor, daughter of King John, her marriage, 208
Elecampane, a plant, 243, 314
Elizabeth, daughter of Edward L, maniage, 204
Eliiabeth of Lancaster, marriage, 520
Elk on the oldest inns in England, 464
Ellacombe (H. T.^ on legend on belb» 95
EUcee on cobblers^ lamps in Italy, 845
Parkes (Joseph) memoioi asid ccmreapopdence, 74
'< Point deviee,^ 255
Song: " Goodj bottkd ale,** 44
Schoohnaster abroad in Lnoaahire, 31 1
Ellis (A. S.) on Beckefs mnrderen, 266
Chepstow— Estri^oie], 290
Ellis (J, H,) on cryptography, 377
Ellis CJobn), misoelJaneons writer, 5
EUis (R B. W.) on Amorkala, wife of Akbac, 821
Barbarous massacre, 221
Bibliotheca lodlca, 54
Donna Juliana Diez, 34
" Documentos Arabieos," 308
Mansoleam and town Uoaiknllee, 3S5
Poppa Bai, or Queen of Misrule, 190
Elze (Dr. Earl) on "Ueicha&t of Venioe;*" Ma.
Downmg, 142
<* Thnoo of Athens," two paauges, 350
Enamoured, as a verb, 429
Engraving, a curious, 95; early, 13, 151, 217, 332;
steel, 510
Enigma: '< Cadaver nee habet snum sepnlchnnn,'' 5t8
Enty (Rev. John), biography, 55
Epigrami : —
Brown (Tom) on Dr. Samuel Fell, 283
French cock, 54
Jackson (Cyril) and Nathan Westherell, 821, 350,
442,518
Walcheron expedition, 1 8
Epitaphs : —
Bailee (John) of Northampton, 254
Bird (Mrs. Susannah), at Midnapore, 280
Cotes (Thomas), in Wing church, 53
Havers (Rev. Thomas) at Stoke Holy Cross, 94
Heversham church, Westmoreland, 32
Portland (Richard Weston, Ibt Earl oQ, 325
Stanley (Sir Thomas), 190, 292
E. (R.) on "Streak of silver sea," 486
Eric on the Duke of Kent in Canada, 86
E. (R. R. W.) on mummy-hunting, 491
Erse (Lothar), tragedy on Maiy Queen of Scots, 533
Enikine r John), editor of his " Institutes,-' 364
Erskine (Thomas, Lord), disappointed of a legacy, 510
Es and En, 59, 193, 264, 547
Espedare on A'Bocket's murderers, 395
Cunningham surname, 347
Laird or lord, 328
Pennytersan, Cunstone, etc, 219
Sickle Bqyne: Boyne Money, 313
Este on Industries of England, 289
Evans (John) on coin of Denarius, 354
Ewald (H. G. A.) and the Apocalypse, 175
Exhibition, International, of 1867, 67, 153, 181, 202,
296, 855, 401
B. (Y. C.) on the completion of St. PauVs, \ft5
£^ck (Brothen Van), « Adrntkn of the Um\>r \S0
F. on Calvin and fiervstas, 141
Foster (John) of Wordsley, 549
Nile and the BiUe, 421
F. 2 (W.) on the bookwoBn, 168
Cunningham, origin of the tomanie, 221, .224
"* The Soater and his Sow,' 467
Facts in unexpected places, 297,1178
Faidherbe (G^n^ral), noticed, 121
Fairfax court-house destroyed, "508
Fairfax family pedigree, 257
Fairf ord windows, 47
Fairy changelings, 283
FalUand (Lord), mtioed, 4M
Falkner (T. F.) on metrical muM cf ^ Paafana, 305
Falls (Mr.), his pun, 107
Families without coat anmir, M4, 420, 481
Faraday (James), pedeatriaa fort, 140, 266
« Farceur (le) du Jour et de k Nnit,'' 12
Famham (Lord), memoir, 227; SMnnsoipta, 246
Farren (Eliza), house in GrseD StrMt, 169
Faussart (Sister Guillemette), 135
Fell (John), bishop of OzEord, 268, 362
FeU (Samuel), dean of Christ Churdi, 288, 262
Female saint lepnsented, 56, 150
Fendles: Beanchamp, 318
FenoUes, or Fendles (Sir Wm. de)» daiig^ Mngant,
12,223,318,437,505
Fenwick family, 33
Fenwick (Lady), her disiatennflnt, 3S
Fenwick (Wm.), mayo^ of Hull, biogniphy,-2S5
FerguaMm (J.) on the eompietion of St. l^vS^ 890
Femie (T. P.) on engraving of Amw of Denmark, 533
Ferrar (Nicholas) and George Buggle, 490
Ferrers (Lady), ballad, 209, 334
Ferrey (B.) on St. Paul's cathedral, its eompietioo, 344,
460
Sturt's Book of Common Prayer, 283
Fert in the Savoy arms, 22, 104
Fetter-lock, a cognizance of the Long fsmily, 428, 536
F. (G.) on bears* ears, 350
Fiction and fact, 494
Fiennes family pedigree, 438
Filial piety, 121, 180, 199
Findeme flowers, 194, 813
Finkley, archnological discoveries, 528
Fish and the bark " Providence," 492
Fishermen in the olden time, 174
Fishwick (H.) on Badger, 245
Frost on the shortest day, 73
SaarbrUck custom, 174
Stilts=crutcheB, 243
Fitz-Hameys (Robert), genealogy, 222, 2Sfi
Fitzhopkins on a black country legend, 197
Funeral flowers: Goldsmith, 426
Jests, 445
Old jokes, 121
Schoolmaster abroad in StaffBidshire, 811
Story and its expansion, 32
Fitz-Richard on punning and jerting od name;, 107
Riehard PUmtagenet, 150
Fitzstratheme (Mr.), 506
F« (JO on the.8ig08 of the Zodiw;, 844
\'
Indax flopplemf nt to the Sotn and )
Qanlm, with Xo. 165, Jal7 U, 1871. J
INDEX.
565
F. (J. T.) on burff or burf, 879
Cobblera' lamps in Italy, 132
Gigantic tin singing trampots, 530
Gnn, its deriTstioD, 58
" Marj llsgdalen's lean/' its anthor, 95
Mnral painting in Slanitoa chnrcb, 40
Print of the Prodigal Son, 56
Shard, or sham, 1Q5
Wolls cathedral, its Acabio nnrntrah^ 376
F. (J. W.) on Kew Zealani medal, 197
War medals, 13], 482
Flag, the new German imperial, 322,416, 503
Flemish families, their arms, 11, 310
Flemish fishermen in England, 513
Flenry (Abb<< de), letter to Card. Gnaltexio, 69
Florin, the golden, 808
Flj.fishing, artificial, 161, 265
Fljn (Dayid) on the boy-bishop at GJiristmas, 21
Fog, meaning of the word, 96, 216, 351, 466
Folk Lore :—
Agne charms, 443, 483
American folk lore, 91, 92
Blackbirds singing before Christmas, 186
Frost on the shortest day, 73
Fnneral, 51, 63, 231, 298
Gabriel liotnds, 299
Garlie, its anti-witchcraft properties, 20G
Graves open on Sandays, 471
Irish: Crawley ver, Crawley, 299
Kin^re snpeistitioos, 93
New moon and the maids, 445
Kew year saperstition, 299
Sheffield folk lore, 299, 439
Slow worm, 427, 547
Sneezing, 361
Stafibrdahire folk lorej 91
Summer rainfall and the great bear, 300
Teeth folk lore, 85
Thnnder, 428
Toads core glandakr swelling, 210
Weather sayings, 299, 300, 343, 419, 445
Winter faying, 18
Foots (Samuel) ^IS. of " Piety in Pattens,** 161 ; cha-
imcters in his "Chrysal," 186
Ford Abbey sale of paintings, 475
Ford (J. W.) on the game of Ombre, 306
Foreigner on a German Etymological Dictionary, 303
Forrest (C.) sen. on black wax, 443
Forster (Dr. Thomas), "Anthologia Borealis etAns-
tralis," 160
Fortone tlicatre, 183
Foicolo (Ugo), removal of his remains, 528
Foster (John) of Wordslc^y, 410, 549
Founders* kin, pedigrees of^ 389
Foxmtains abbey, 141, 269
Fowler (J. T.) on Foontwns abbev, 269
"Fox's Martyrs," a satire, 388
Foyers, the falls of, 62, 178
Fra (Ghuton) on schoolboy words, 44
France, its reigning beauties, 427 ; coins of the Bepnb-
lies, 473, 526
Francis (Sir Philip), a Junius claimant, 421, 453, 489
Franklin (Benjamin), laurel wreath, 189
Fraaer or Frisel £amilies, 55, 179, 330
''Fraser's Magazine,*' portraits circa 1935, 81, 211
Frederick king of Prussia, his alleged letter to Prince
Charles Stuart, 117
Freie (G. E.) on Sir John Powell, 465
Fretton (W. G.) on bells of St. MlchaelV, Coventry, 45
Friday tree, or non-success, 123, 199
Fiiswell (Hain) on Chignons, 326
" Gentlemen of the Pavement,*' 341
Old families wiUiout coat armour, 420
"Stewing in their own gravy " 187
Tennyson and Congreve, 301
F. (R J.) on Dover castle, 364
Scot's Hall in Kent, 433
Frock church register, its recovery, 232
Frosts, severe ones, 18
Fruits, wild, in Germany, 233
Fry (Franois^ on Tyndale's New Testament, 30
Bishops version of the Bible used by the trans-
lators of the Authorised Version, 74
F. (S. B.) on Horan family arms, 454
F. (T. P.) on the nuuriage of the Duke of Manchester,
364
Unpublished letter of Essex, 406
Fulham porcehun dishes, 37
Fulhun (G. T.) on the Janney family, 312
Fuller (Wm.), bishop of Lincoln, parenuge, 257, 351
Funeral customs in the HighUnids, 51, 267; in Lan-
oashira, 231 } at Glevehmd, 298
Fnneral flowers, 426
Fumess Abbey and the Chdtham Society, 74, 310
Fumivall (F. J.) on Chaucer's birth, 412. Works,
492
Fust (Sir Edward), his sword, 77
Fust (H. Jenner), jun. on Jennour family, 152
F, (W. G.) on plans In " Beauties of England and Wales,"
34
F. (W. M.) on the memory of smells, 414
G., Edinburgh^ on Lord Erskine, 510
" Fox's Martyrs," a satire, 388
Hamcsuckea, a legal t<>rm, 257
Judicial oaths, 209, 440
Mar's year, 186
« The Deaf Old Woman," 75
The Souter and his Sow, 361
Wolfe (Gen.) and tlio 20th foot, 53
G. (A.) on Dr. Benjamin Carier, 130
Hilarion;i servant, tlie sage crow, 178
" Poems on the Four Last Things," 535
" The Song of Solomon," 515
Weaver's art, 244
Gabriel hounds, 299
Gainsborough (T&omaa), " Blue Boy," 237, 386, 391
Gainsburgh legend, 251, 457
Gairdner (Jan^e-s), on letter of Edward n% 229, 417
Galileo, his letter, 12, 113
Galimatias = nonsonse, 1 74
Games, children's 141, 271, 415, 506, 523
Ganthe (Hancse) of Dantzig, 283
Gantillon (P. J. F.) on Denny's Greek translati-in, 76
Epigram by Owen, 292
Hood's poem, 293
Trench's Hulsean Lectures, 78
Gardiner (S. R) on Philip Burlamachi, 550
Duke of Buckingham's mother, 469, 544
Gardner (J. D.) on Skedaddle, 351
566
INDEX
f Tndex Sopplemeot to the IToCet nd
\ Qnerlea. wTtb Vo. IM, loir U. isn.
Garlic, its anti-iritchcraft properties, 206
GarroD, a small horse, 494
Gaspey (Wip.) on the last of the Plantagenetf, 271
Gates, Isle of Man, 409, 484
Gattj (Dr. A.) on Barker's pmoramas, 432
Mary Queen of Scots' captivity in England, 451
Gatty (Margaret) on bubieh' l-.ells, 45
Ballad of Lady Ferrers, 209
Sea-dragon delineated, 125
Son-dial qaeries, 399
Geddes (D.) on the meaning of fo^, 216
Gem query, 322, 307
Gemini, 351, 441
Generations within living memory, 387
Gentlemen, as used in the army, 75
" Gentlemen of the Pavement," 341
George IV., his last days, 473
German Etymological Dictionary, 303, 380, 456
German imperial flag, 322, 416, 505
German prince inquired after, 235
Germans of the first and nineteenth centuries, 87
Geronde convent, 255
^ Geschichte des boruhmten Berggeists Gnome aaf den
Sudeten," 55
Gg. on Arundel and Arundello, 234
G. (G. M.) on Strasburg library, 223
Gheel iu Belgium, the home of madmen, 21
Gherkin, its derivation, 19, 103
G. (H. J.) on arms of Counts of Perche, 1 1 1
Ghost story: Lord Hastings, 453
G. (H. S.) on Albaney and Amondeville, 234
Alcock (Bishop), his arms, 334
Bourne and Cruft families, 256
Chevron, 467
Cookesey family, 523
Corbett family,'408
Craufurds of Newark, baronets, 543
Dore, a family name, 453
Heraldry, the barrow, 474
Gibbs (H. 11.') on babies' bells, 133
Bovey (John), 179
Manuscript Horaj, 535
Ombre, a game, 167
Gibson (Bp. Edmund), mother and wife, 76
Gibson (William Sidney), his death, 48
Gilbert (James) on convivial song, 151
Hamel (Nicholas), 64
Pianoforte, its first public exhibition, 143
Reform bill in 1831, 113
Local tournaments, 105
Gipsies in IreUnd, 110; their cookery, 121
G. (J. A.) on bell-ringing, 388
Coincidence of thought, 93
Creighton (Dr. Robert), 142
Eggs as an article of food, 409
Gigantic ox, 159
Marriages before twelve o'clock, G64
Sonnet queries, 545
•* Stewing in their own gravy," 272
Thomson (James) a Druid, 225
(jladh, its derivation, 454
GUmma waterfall, 62, 178
Glan on the English invasion of Switzerland, 36
GUtteUf a provincialism, 121; its meaiim^, ^^4^446
494, 5iS
GlencMim (James, Eari of), letter to Jaxawi YL,^0
Gnats, their bite, 258. 362) 416, 505
Godolphin (Sydney), 364, 462. 507
Godolphin (Sydney, Earl oQ, 364
<' God*s baby," iti mtMiins, 235
Golding (0.) on Glatton, Its meaniiig, 445
Suffolk rood sereena, 867
Gddsmid (Jal'ian), present to the UnivwBityof Londan,
336
Goldsmith (Oliver), Elegy w J. F. Sleigb, 9, 66, 84,
131; bis tomb, 426
« Good night," Ac, stanzas on, 96
Goosnargh chapelry, its histiwy, 153
Qors, erected on rivers, 1 13
Gorse, its emblematical meaning, 328, 379, 467| 5S5
Gort (Viscount) on the ftunily if FitDDflS, 436
Mourning writing paper, 378
Scottish guard of Fninee, 455
Smyth family of Ireland, 122
" Sun never ssttingon the BritSsh 4oniinioni»*SM
Grantham, alias Bloetown, 44; inn signs, 343, 440
Orasebrook (H. S.) oo Worcesttrshira sberifftf* arms, 410
G. (R. C.) on " This ean nighty" Ac, 133
G. (R E.) on Bobens' " Jodgmtot of Paris," 364
Grecian lieod, origin of the term, 123, 513
Greek and Roman literatnre, 475
Greek pronunciation, 13, 173
Green (G. M.) on book omamcntatloii, 147
Carlo Crivelli, 270
Carrier (BenjaminX 150
GaUleo's letter, 113
Simonides and tha Codex Sin^tieiB, 179
Greene rLady Katharine), twifK Charles II., 2
Greene (R.), " The Prodigal Son. ' 407
Greenoway family, 535
Greenslcevea (Lady), her picture, 475, 550
Gregory (Barnard), editor of "The Satiritet," 327
Gresley (Sir Nigel), porcelain manuiactory, 75
Grey (Arthur), ode to, 207, 375
Griffiths (E.) on Bibles, len^. James I.. 534
Grimston (Lady Anne), grave in Tewin churchrarJ,
76, 128, 172,195,273,309
G. (R. J.), on •♦ The Plain Dealer," 467
Grosart (A. B.) on tha Rev. Thomas Brooks, 417
Egerton (Sir Charles), knt, 12
Falkland (Lord), Dr. Donne, and £• Dyer, 494
Hogan, or Hoghens, 481
Vaughan (Henry), allosion in his poem, II
Grote (George), his death. 552
Gualterio, (Card.), papers in the British Museum, 69
Guido Canlassi, lines on his ** Aurora ,** 13, 113,221,
292
Guild uf Literature and Art, 26
Guise and Guizot^ their pmnuncaatlon, 142, 270, 333
Gulson (E.) on Devonsliire words, 499
Gun, its derivation, 57, 149
G. (W.) on Mediieval bamji. 224
Norsemen in Cumberland, &c, 360
Panning and jesting on names, 106
Gwyn (John Frauuceis), sale of paintings, 475
Gwyu (Nell), letter to Mr. Hyde, 2
H
H. on English descent of Daniel O^Coooril, 242
S \ H., Dublm^ on SiTS aod liie Whiteboja, 124
\ ^^ T>iTiB«9, ^ ^QDib>ac^%\wtacilu^ of B. Saason, 56
\ \ ^^^^H
^H
^^^
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^3
^K^ "^1 ISDEX.
867
^^p. (A.) <m «dLtor 1 »
Sealer (Ber.^liMtiiMl). a&, 113, LT4, 244
^H Gberkio imd c ^ . .« ,^. , i u a
\Uy^xv VIT '■n.,rr>...>.. nr- Ih^ a^BghtfflT ila^» tm
^H H^riddic. 433 ,
W *». 2S8,3ffO
^H *^ 'i imoD of Athene/' t w« p«M(i.
r , : vm '
^■BftbAtji Cofpuii Ac t pABSfld 9iy A j«Bi.
!' ..-rOjiitJril, 3o,'
J Licknuf T lis
^ Eiir ^o?ring fttor deiAb, 66^ a3| \4it, %2^^ \im, 345,
aer]>ert {^ICiGiiiira; at Loodw, aacealn-, 4»4
476; lU loQgth in mea and wooiiin. 475
Herbs and leaves, noteltta on, 206, 34«, 44^
I^UtPff * v;- n»on Jiia dflrth^ 3?>
Herefordshirt manor-hanaas, 387
Hall { 7011 Berliu:
Heriot, Atimre of chattels under om, 3<iJ
ttdl ( ' i p«odi<*» J ;
Heriz family of Withcote, c* Loieettar, lz*j
Hall (Wm.) Aitetkfie«» adft : - . .
Hormeatnide on the Adveat Hjrnai,' 13^
HaUiwetl, (X 0.) on MS. ikM la^Hgtliigh'a Hiatar^
Aver7 pedigree, 161 ^^
eft; ■ ■ 36
Baliol (Willkto), 606
HamcN ^ iffcudi aoUior, 64
Beauofaaoip amv, 442
Hame;^, tu„ ^..^u piptT of. 84
Bedrat'a mardiitts, 4^
HazoesQokflDf a kw tmn, 257, aa i
Bows and enrlKTi, 220
Hampden family, 169, 273, 333, 441
CUieiioelatt%, 16€
HampBhitv ccMUitr; cburciiyard, 174
Ohaucer's bifth, 4t2, 347
HaiiOTcki^ /amilj of CusibnuiTUa, I m
De Bohcn family, J 50
Eaodtl (G. F.).<K»«rtg ior th« hanv207i "ilwwali,"
Edward. (G«trge),4«4
304, 349
Eogliish queen baried at Porto Fiaa^ 375
. £o«UdipiliifsiiB^thikmaniasa%5SO
" From dogs to cloga," etc., 547
Harlaiid (Ber. BobertX :hba«g«iii7, »»
Judicial oaths^ 354, 50fi
Hannaji (Sir John), lib death, 365
*' Lady GreeittlflevM/ a Ullad, 550
Harper (Thomas) qq iiftoyiiw Hed Gap, 208
Utim«r {Gm. Ktvillcv LanJ), his wiA^ 219
Harria (Joseph), actor, 3 u\^ . , -.
Long family d WraiaU, 486
Mwsddfl; Than* of Fife. 132
Finderae ilowors, 194
Blaida of boiiourf 441 ^^^M
Harriaon (Joseph), jun*, on Wkd '< NulAirij^, ' 102
More fjui%, 401 ^^B
Harriaoa (Wm.) oo liioe or qosen of lb© kW of Maii,
&Iortlmer pedigtte^ 'iM ^^H
S49
Padewe familTi 3^4 ^^M
Placard=atomacber, 389 ^^^M
Hart (Mni,X actressy 3, l^a
St Jaoe of Valoia, 201 ^^H
Hanr«»(llob«:0.£ttwalogy, 222 ,
Smith (Hev, William), a.D. 1539-15$9f^lf> ^^H
Harrej {l^Af HUfiOraUt), 3
Steffbrd (Abp.). ori^ of, 5t}0 ^^H
HajitiDga (Lord), a ghogtalorf. 4&3
Suiblk (Charles BmndoD^ Duka oQ* d^oendaata, ^^H
^^areri^a] (R X) aa ibe Saram. mintaU 65
^^H
^K, Vdgdtti Bilk of U16, 344
Walfrona, 13 ^^H
Hemy (Boht, F.), *" Concordance i,'* 142'. 467 ^^H
^^pAjdou (B. H.), puiuter, pcdi^
*ef>. .'jfj 143
^^Daydoti (Fraftlr^wDtt) on B. I: 13
Hen ey, Duke of Odeana, oottst ^^H
^Hajm (K. F.X " Hiator; oll^lu
Hervey (B«ir. James) and Wia. i ^^H
^■■^g. G.) oD liuea on Ah^ A&^m, ^4
Heaketh ( Bpi Jliian)^ of Sadot axtd Han . >4 ^^H
^Hm^) 00 tapastrj portnilB, 6) I
Hcasek (J. H.) on :^r Rohetft. KiUfiSitw. ike., i54 ^^H
^^bmHtj (R il) on opitheU of th« luonthi, 419 1
IJ. (F. CO on Amtnaan natzoonl toUf ^ ^^H
** Haut of iieftru," the phxMt, a^fi^ 399, 46a, 548
Anscdotea* 196 ^^H
Hearth Ux. 112
«' Adiiia Oiurtaf V 374 ^^1
Heavte *
Bean' cars, 350 ^^H
Hftlire, atw readiiift jIH
Bill actually presente9| 1 39 ^^M
HaIiogiiLd4& aqU cohirebs. 535' s. ^
BookvOfO}, iti Timigee» 65 ^^H
Helmal«7 tnoe, 41, 133^21:7/ ♦^in ^«tr»*»U 1. iu: n
Bntlar^a Blue and Bfll BoeUi*, I Jl* ^H
Halii^J (TO, OR AshWraerfl of FiviiMi, 337
Carrier (Benjamin), aita ^^^|
P»jJe7 Of PnbJcwa f*tnjif, 2IU, £22
Charms for agu4^ 463 ^^H
" Seven SUr« " ino, Maathaatcr^ 267
Chriatmui cat^^'^ ^^H
Shakspeaze and A«d«D, 11%
Cistareian abbeys, 2d9 ^^H
SntitlitoUKitd
Deaf old >wwram, lOe* ^^B
ElBftvf (H. Wr); oft^ Qliarlii* JJa cOaftn ^Miliaff i>iec«,
DedlcatioQ of churches, 490 ^^^H
49§ , ^ '
Dragon a«li<teti(Wia, 1 79 ^^H
Gbws ill China, Lid 1
Eggs aa an art! IR4 ^^H
Creats, their j»roper use, 363 ,
Ecatalica and ^^^|
' Croonfell (OUv»?r), ATA, 481
Elecampane^ 3 1 ^ ^^^|
NamlyQ^Mticr* 336
Eogliah ¥0ni«<}ciitl«v>, 464 ^tfjI^H
I^Afi^ lihniriu end Oiuimns. :i^i\
Efiigiaa^ aaoitQl, .^Iffr ^^^^H
gr.8»iiiM^(Tli4iAa>>, mdaib
Tcttd^o^ ritig, S^U-
-.^^^^^^^H
568
i:ndex'
f Indcz Sniipleincnt to the Xoftes «ii<l
tQiierlGt.>Ht]i Ho. 188, Jalr It. len.
H. (F. 0.) on Gone, its embkinatio sigDificAtioo, 379
Hair growing after dtatb, 83
Holctu lanatos^ 360
Hole in the Wall, an ion sign, 201
La Caracole, 149
Lincolnshire drinking-song, 527
Man*8 animal nature called a beast, 484
Manx bisbops, 293
Medical Order of St. John, 394
Mezaotinto prints, 483
Mount Calvary, 62, 215
Mourning, or black-edged, writing paper, 307
Mural painting in StarBton cburcb, 40, 410
Nativity of our Lord, feast of the, 225
Nelson (Lord), opinion of German generals, 74
''Parson and Bacon," a song, 171
Poet prophecies, 151
Placard, its signification, 445
Prophecies of Thomas Martin, 32
Prophecy of Orval, 53
St. Anguktin's Sennons, 17
St. Jane, or Joanna, of Valois, 150
St. Paul, the first hermit, 112, 245
St Thomas of Villanova, 431
St. Wulfran, 269
Scripdta, 146
Sheerwort, a plant, 25, 332. 527
" The Heaving of the Lead,* 148
" Though lost to sight, to memory dear," 173, 332
Tetragonal inscription, 379
Titlers of sngar, 110
Veto at papal elections, 269
Wells cathedral, its Arabic nnmerals, 375
"Whether or no," 286
IL (F. H.) on '^ First Impressions, or a Day ia India,"
354
Sarum Missal, 177
H. (G. J.) on the will of Elizabeth Talbot, 384
H. (H.). PorttmoHth, on Oliver the Spy, 66
. Puoch-ladJe of George in., 236
Sandown Castle, Isle of Wight, 175
Watches of distinguished men^ 259
Hibbit8E= little eft or newt, 510
I lie et ubique on book ornamentatloD, 147
Superstition in Suffolk, 210
Higden (Ralph), " Polycronicon," 422
Highland customs at births, marriages, and funerals,
50, 267
Higson (John) on children*s games, 523
Gorse, 525
Nortli Lancashire song, 543
" Hilarion's servant, the sage crow," 11, 112, 178, 245,
293
Hill (Lord Arthur^, pun on him, 107
IIind*s Hili, near Godalming, inscription, 344, 379
Hinton (Charles), on Dr. Johnson's watch, 151
Historical Society meeting, 552
History repeating itself 280
H. (I. W.) on the Bleakley fumily, 141
H. (J.) on Lord Byron's " English Bards," 23
Cancan, a dance, 108
Mental equality of the sexes, 223
" The greatest clerks not the wisest men," 409
U. (J. F,) on a French Wesleyiin ^la^am^ Z*l^
IT, (M.) QD Harriet Clarke's longevity, 5\\
i^/>/> in the tV^ftll m hm siwu 123. 20\,^'20,^\Ci,\\n
Hodgkin (J. Kl) inr the antiquity of drigaon, S61
Notes on fly-leaves, 288 ■ '
St. Valentine, 1S2
Hogan, galloping and drinking, 430, 481, 594
Hogarth (Wm.), book-plates, 304 ; sprint of Lord
Lovat, 385 } vignette, 255
Hogg (James), soDg " Kilmeoy," 323
Hogg (Robert) on George London, 505
Holcos lanatnss Yorkshire f>g, 323, 380
Holt (H. F.) on Adam de Orieton, 53, 306
Block Books, 13,217
Henry VIIL and the Goldett Fleeca, 370
Hdt (H. F.), his death, 381
H31ty (L. 0. H.), German poet, 174, 244
Holywdl : 6\a Lady of Holywell, 475
HomcBopathy noticed by Hilton and Hippoeratet, 64, 109
Hood (Thomas), <' Address to Mr. CroM,** 472; *' Lfe
Shore," 32, 197; Works, 181
Hook (Theodore), stoiy ascribed to him, 73, 19S, 314
Hooker (Maria) on Mut^ Park and the moss, 440
Hopkyns (D. D.)» ^ ^^7 Grimston^ S"^* ^^
Horan fiunily arms, 454
HcekyiiB-Ahrahall (John) on lothing hmd, 19
House of Commons, speeches after midnight, 402
'' House that Jack built,** its original model, 23 ' -
Housset (Jean) of Mont Val^rien, 136
Howlinfton (BiJbert), a osntenarian, 120
Hoxne abb^ register, 258
H. (B.) on " Cold as a dog^ noBe," 1 14
H. (S.) on the meaning of Pogi 96 '
H. (S. H. A.) on R F. Herrey, 142
H. (T.) on the " fretful porcupine," 453
H. (T. A.) onJtev. John Macgowan^ »W
H. (T. C. G.) on the ptfronymic <• ing," 105
Hume (David), pedigree, 71
Hungerford fSwnfly, 425, 426, 538
Hunsdon church, co. Hertford, 250
Hunsdon house, ca Hertford, 250
Hunt (J. H. Leigh) " Lefanre Honrs in Town," £6,
132, 198; •* The Months;" 226
Hunterian Clnb, 2G
Husband (H. A.) on negro proverbs, 43
Husbandman, its meaning, 255
Husk (W. H.) on Convivial songs, 294
Cromwell (OKver) medals, 495
" The Golden Pippin," 218
" The Heaving of the Lead,' 200
H. (W.) on the Bodleian MSS., 406
Criticism on ** Merchant of Venice,* 271
Cromwell (Oh'ver), letter, 291
Eleven-shiinng pieces of Charles 1., 442
Sampler poesy, 331
Science and art, 224
H. (X.) on the Hall of Waters, 112
Hyde (H. B.) on De Saye family, 272
Hy-jinas, a tipsy merriment, 427
Hymnology : ** Guide me, 0 thon great Jdidrsh," 33;
"Advent* 41, 133, 217; «Jen»a!«mImy
happy home," 41, 151 ; " The Lord b tny Shep-
herd,** 210; ''The Lamentation of a Sinner,"
298, 376
I. (C, P.) on Latin proverb, 419
"^ ^^^RSA «l^^fe!QBL ^<GMlt iQatrev.^ 314
\'
1 (H. M*) *»» » tetwgoiwl iiiscilplioB* 344*,
Indexes, tbeir utility* 42, 1 4&
lat^ks of EngUod, 209 289,444 I
InUute, tbcif imtfiiag«, 103
fotfttind of Wedewood ware, IbJ, -i/^ ^
Waii«n,Crh ,'.,64,510
lona. ancient, jo i . . a ij a-,^
ic^riplion at Hini.. n.u, xua. ammg. 344, ^. J
loD on tbe Roger family, 244
Ixifth CAT fud tioddy, -i^^, i^'^*
Irbb forfeiture*, 21,109 -^^
Lu «iiasci4pt- beloa«ii.g to LV.^ja. 42
Imh '* prorincial characteri^
Irrtne (Aikfn) on Taul Y. ;.
Ifvine (J» T.) Q» Arabw nuv.ieri
282
l^lcs of the Sirens^ 337
luly, anliquaiiaii eicaTaUona
Iran oo an aoony«v>uii worl^ 6^
Moakaa (Pnnce Faeckler)»
J
330
Wells catbevlnd,
47, it a didatUo
J. m George Loodi>ja, g^rdejwr, 2Jl>
Tayluf (Bp. J«roti,y), a««pduril^, 14J
J. CA.) OD chowder, ft aava^ry dii.b» bj
Smith family, 176 ■ , . ;^^, r^r.
Jackson (J, E.) on ih« i-tWr-lock as A c.gnir>-"
Bak growing after death, 4^6
" Moore (Sir Georga), *67
Jackson (Stephen) on the BroV i
*• Alio nando dormiUt boiiu
Craven saying, 1*7
Cumberiaivi'a BritUb Tbe^U. , -^
Dyor (John), iha po^^,353. 5a4
Hob in the well, 3*0
Kaahmir, Ua ancieat bttiidtflg^ 1 1^
KaiD«9, aigiilficantj 30
Ni^jheUon (Reotoa), *^ Baro», 18
Ootnensd or UitjereJv^"^
" Owll that W^cet the bodu^K sky,
Parodies, 261
-PigBmayflyr&c.,4l
Beasyoa for going to chiirch, H.HJ
Sawney Beane, the irian-taUt, 77
j;miS?io.i^rtof,172(>.n ,
11^., legal common-places i" hh re.gn, 5 K3|
^1 J Gk^caiiaa klter to lilm. 90, Scottiflb bt^r^
ji: UL^f'a^Iboo.e of his assa^natio^. 297
Jamieaon (Alex,), matheaiatiaani 142, 21i*
Janney family, 312 . .► „ lu
Jarvi*.(J. W-) oQ book orB^«ejjUUi>o, I U
JaVdee on Jo£a DyWa ^ GrotJgw liai,'\4*4:, '.'
Wray (CapricionOi 466 j
J fB TOon liidu^trws«t t.Q^ [
j'. (c! S.) on W*e qLaantities, 3. ,,
I ^ SpeDaer»aPanope,2S3 ^^^
, Jenkins (John), at'
j Jennonr family, 5.^ chinois, 24i)
' Jeremiah (JO ^, ^yTTW,
Tenby* its deriVaUon, eo
V«ae' feea®. ^*^^ '
Jestai* on shipboard, 209
Jeata unrecorded, 361
Jesuit manoaenpts, 35-i ^ i
Jewish marriage nnp,^ i
J (H, F.) on French \\ {
jinf^le, an Irish hackHL)
J. (X) ion, on badger, Itjb
^ Derivation of c^icnrrber, 10^^
Naccarine, r ' "
Millie Brok^i ' ^^
T fj, C.) on the BI^kk u-K-t 1S1|,^^^-
' ■ Book omamonttttion, 243
Dudley and Ward (tard). poriril!, 1^-^
MedtsBTa seals, ^f 3
Pi<,tiireofa>in*1«!»i'^^'^-
Porcelahi qhci^. 210
Scena: 6oen(S, 414
Service book, 496 ^
JukeA, some old 00e8,J2l ^^^, li
tnes'(Sir Wm,^ ^Aka;. <3a^- 1^, ,,^tzabe*», 423
Junes (Wm. Henry) ' = • ' igg. the
Joni5on(BenjO *»<* - 230; the
conjoint proprtft Li
Crispinnsof "Ini i < -iU
Joseph of Arirnalhr^. . 5^63
J^ephus on Gen. B^^
Jqj (Edunand) on e^
innW handwriting, 421, 453. 4BJ,
' 100
Julien (Mons.>. leiver - -— --^ g^g
Junins handwriting, 421, 453. 489,
J (W. CO oil prfif«sa^oii»T ^V^
Lines on maU^enmUcs, abi*
Kiiiendb = first fruits, 495 ^ , . ,,3,.
K!\A.B.)ontbe"BrMc.nfEnde.^j^^3^^
Kaiimir, Lttt andi' ,^
Kay (John) of Bus ant, 284
Iriahforfcltiirea,109
Laird,aporLi^«eron^t)d,lj-
Tgylor (Bp. Jcrctny), d.«.c.nd.
570
ZSIDSX.
( mderflMppMiMMto'i
Keato (JohB), !* La IkUa ORine hmm U:rd,"^4, 39fl
KSbes, a ThebaD philos(;phtT, 93, 226, 391 - * :
Keck (Robert), portrait, 12
Keighkiey (T.) <m a\kf^Tj of " Tb« FaBf'nb Qtkttn;' 1 ;
real persons, 49, 317; tjpqpTftpIueal mtora, 383
MiltoD's Poems, note nisaitii^, 511
MiltOQ'B ^ Biv«r9, arbe! *> fre., 187
Phoenix Park and FuntaioeUmv, 207
Printer's error, 509
Kelly (Win.) on Macliiic'd picture of the Fnuerians, 214
Kelsall (Cbarka), " Mala Britannietu,'* 76
Kempe (John), abp^ of Canterbury, ami, 9Ul
Kencott church, Oxfordbhxre, moBnDMBt^ 140
Kennedy (U. A.) on Cheat in EngUad and- China, 137
Angelo (Michael) " Last Judgment," 258
Consols defined, 492
Singular fee puid by Irish bishops, 161
Kent, a new history of, 354
Kent, history of the Weald of, 274
Kent (Charles) oo " Chateatix en Espagna," 158
Kent (Duke oQ in Canada, 86
Kerry, History of the Kingdom of, 354
Ktnay (John), inathamatician, 323
K. (G. B.) on epithets of the mootha, 343
Killigrew (Elizabeth), Viaoonutess ShaoDOD, 268, 454
Killigrew (Sir Robert) fainity, 454, 550
Kindt (Harmans), on Accointanee, 492
Fruits, wild, in Gennany, 283
Hunt (Leigh), '• Tlie Mooths," 226
Notekts oa heiba and leaves, 205
Simms (Wm. George), his death, 406
King (Henrir) on Ovid, " MeUm. ziii. 264,'' 455
King fP. S.) ou Mont Cauia tunnel, 10
King (Dr. Wm.)i Judge cf the Irish Court of iWimiralty,
389
King (Dr. Wm.), Principal of St. Mary Hall, Oxford, 389
King's College, New York,' 289
Kingblow (,Tobn), the Uiclunood recluse, 513
Kingston (Wm. 4th ICarl of), biography, 389
Kinsale (De Goiircy, Lord^ descendanta, 75
Kintyre superstitions, 93
Kipper, its derivatioo, 409, 543
Kirk Santon, origin . f tho name, 44, 148
K. (J. A.) on pHtsagQs in ShclUy, 455
Kneeling in prajer, 437, 5u7
Knight of the Budy and Kfquira uf the Oudy, their
duties, 55
Knight of Icishowea on Mm aula/s ballads, 235
Knight of Morar on the Garter of Chsrles :L, 440
Knight (Mrs.), celcbmtcd singer, 2
Knighthood; "Oidre Imie'riate Aiialiqoe," &c*, 78;
and foreign orders, 100
Knights of Malta, 100, 101, 197, 346, 441
Knowles (E. U.) on lloeity, the Gwrnan poet, 244
Naccariiie, its meauiog, 286
Soluta, in pariah rcKiattrs, 31.4
Walpole's nail-brush, .>26
Knox (John), houso at Ediuburrh, 260
Kobold of Groben, 96
L. (A.) on untutored criticism, 387
Vese: feese: feaae, 224
L. (A. E,) ou B^ Huan BhickkaQb, 34
Bezant and florin, 208
Fumeaa Abbey and the GhetlMm SiM'iatT, 74
L. (A. E,) on Gates, Isleirf^MlK AO^*- : ^ '
Kirksantoo>'14l' - ■■*'■: •■ .''•■■' '
Manx bishops, burial places, 123)^184 - '
Plough*k>tai J90 ...
Societas AUwrtorain^ 5B
Sfamky (ThoBMi), bishop of 8od»r and Hao^ 96^
. Winter sayinr, 84
Laiid» or lord, 1^:175/ 243y 310v 398'
Lamb (Chariea), <* Compiitt ChtrnfmHsMb and
W«ka,"86 •
Lamb (J. J.) on Phi-Beta-Ka]^ Satiety, 98
Lambda « topographioal iMrti> 459-
Lancashire funeral UHk^mi 68, 98T,- lli oMl'timber
halls, 442
Landgren (J. H.) o> Genaan ttyamtegicat MAmuimt
380
Laodor (W. S.), letters on CbattertonV mmtamal^ 979
Laoa (Vice-adoical Lionel), death, 78
Lmglir (Be?. Samml; IMX, txamiataoii of '^Tht
Iliad," 889
Lappaga (Thomas) of Dantrig, 983
Larchden on eiTptogmpfay, 877
Padigrtw of fonndar'a khi, 399
" Eiase MMt," two works ao eotiiM, 141
Latimer (George Nevill, I^rd), his wife, 90, 198, 119.
442
Latin pvonnnciatioi, 18, 25, 173
Laurance (L.), " The Song of Solomon* 61V
Laurie (Anne), alias Mrs« Fergwaoo, 491
Lausanne Missal, 124 ■
" Law, physic, and divinityV' compared, 99
L. (C. A.) on Ombrs: Boctoo, 305
L. (E.) on lines on the human ettr, 985-
Lean (Vincent S-Xoo "^ Eirwybody'h bfaslDM,*-te, MO
Leathart (W. D.), M& HiatorT- of ISlU Pancms^ 36
Leavenwurth family, 364
Lee (F. G.) on Hampden (amily, 338
Prayers for the dead, 389
Lee (Rev. Timothy), monament, 304
Leeds (Danby, Duke of), ** LettKra," 389
Lees (Edwin) on marine roee, 45
Legal common- plnccs temp. Jamea L, 5, 83
I^ighton (RuU'rt), iieiiiiou on behalf v£ hil ftmilyi
I 247
Lely (Sir Peter), lifa and wt>rhs, 258; nMBuant bf
Gibbons, 535
Lenfestey (Mrs.)> a ceateoarian, ^8
Lenihan (Maurice) on Edward Coeker, 407
Carolaa s porlrail and akulla, 80
Cleburne family, 477
L'Estrange (T.) on Ovid, ''Matam. xiii. 254," 5tl
Levesell = a lattice, 177
L. (F. G.) on extraordinary riMnnagw, 361
Heraldic query, 409
L. (H.) on old volunte«T oorpe, 284
L. (H. W.) un Hiss KarrauVhoUHe/lSO
"Jack' Bttrl»n, 518 .
Hart (Mn?.) actresa, 198
^ Lines by Sir John Burgoyne^ 340, 461
Lhvyd(£dw.X Irish maBiuoriptor 49 ;
Lichfield cathedral, paintii]^ of the GnieifijticD, %
Liebig (Baron) on Franch MdtDlifio moo, 8S0
Life, average term of hvoMn, 10
Li^htfoot (Rev. Joseph Barber), cimd of St. Fftdfti
, \^^ • . - .■.--. I .»
lUilffX iSitpplrnrf tut to Ihc XotFA •tttS \
yurrlc^t uu^ ao. l«5. Jut) la, tan. /
INDEX.
571
LiogDi AuMm, ■ plAut, 162, 394« 333
Licm ahillbgii. 187
L. (X) on " The wind h«a ti Un^tttJige," 463
L. (J. D) on HAndel'd *' Mesukh/' 349
U (J. H.) on Frvnch word signifring *' to aUndr'* 437
L. (K.) on sign of *• The Hale io'tbt Wall/' 123, 201
Llojd (George) on tiMQ tri|l8 imd spring gaus, 409
Sft^ bj a fisb, 492
Lock (G. J. S.) on cdmIoids at Duirniige&, &c^ 267
Locket'a Ordimuy, 113
_^fti« (W. J ) on Uiin poem on weftthcrcocks, 36
iJlMiioriAl v«r6e8 of the moolhsr 38D
rStaffoni (Abp,), family, 253
m (Soiger de), de»cendiuita, 550
Lok (Henrj), Poems, 401
• LoDdoo, iu fiftj navr churchei, 112; its cele^Mnted
characters and remarkable places* 114^ its oUmiio-
loger^ laS; chaitjge in the noinea of itt streets^ 246
London and Middlcwx Archajologicivl Society, 381
London Corporation Libmrj, Second Report, 87
I London JoaiitutioDf it& new librarian* 403
' LoDdoD (George), gardener, 235, 335, 444, 505
Long famil/ of Bajnton, 7G, 385; cognitADce, 423,
\ 489,536-538
Longwity, rmark»ible cases, 38, 56, 97, 99, 120» 159,
200, 254, 280, 301, 320, 348, 408, 5U, 523
Lomune family, d03
Lotholr on D« Lorraine, 303
LoChing land, ila derivation, 19
London earldom, abeyance, 204
Loogh ainch, Inke direJIio^ or, 42
Lonii XiV^, his fti^j, 2€
Low (S«n>pftan), jun., bis death, 228
L. (P. A*) un " Apr^ moi te deluge," 3V0
BoDington, {II p.), 502
Bookworm nragoe, 847
CrvBts, 505
Caniughftm family name, 343
Dia2(Barlolomiio), 313
Dover Castle, 445
" Ei" and " En," 264
•* Eugene Anun/' 504
Hair g^rowing after deatb, 290
rCtidler (Sir G.idfri'y), epitnph on, 504
I La Cumcole, 549
f ** Monsi^nr, monsieur,'* 484
I Mosquitoes, 505
Palmerston (Lord), diamiBSul fpora office, 496
Panoramaa in London, 438
Fatoiwm farotly, S64
Peel collection of pJctuiw, 415
Point dc vice, 380
St, V.i^--:..^. ''»f;
St*ff hn), 350
'' Su-A ir own gniry," 272
*' The iiofo i loani the teas I think,*' 447
»' To ride/ absence of ant French word for, 504
VoyagMir pigeons, 419 ' ^
" When philiwopbers have done th«r wont," lit
L, (&) on ^itten Laird, 190
L. (8. E.) no Bob in the Well, 310
Hnine abbey register. 258
Ll (M. C) on the menUl eqtialily of Uio ii«««, 9^4
Lttke (Sir Samuel), letter hr^k^ J 42
l/tfknJ M a irinter m/iitg, Si
Lyeo (Jwhn), foondof of Harrow School, S04^ memo*
rial fond, 487
Ly tteiton (Lord) on " the bitter end,** 23
Oampboll (Lord), life of Lord LyndfaurBt, 280
" Everybody's baaincss^*' 453
Handei'd " Messiah," 349
Schoolmaster abroad in StafEbrdsbire, 160^ 374
LtHoo (Lord), " Engene Aram," 429, 504
M, 00 Cranfnrds of Newark, baronots, 843
Mac, a patronymic pr<»6x, 220, 332
McAlpinclan, 189,290,417
Macaroon, ita derivation, 364
Macanlay (Lord) and Thomas Carlyle, 5! 3; UlUiJs
235, 264
MacCabe (W. B-) on Charbon de Tcrre, ^ Liege
legend, 7
Chignons, antiqnity of ladies', 93
Irish legionaries in Rio d« Janeiro, 403
Political satirical dmmss, 491
R*ignj»g beaut iea in France, 427
McCartney (Daniel), bis extraordinary memory, 471
WC. (E.) on Vese; feese, 109
Wray (Capricions), 466
MeC. (R.) on Parodies, 261
MacCulloch (Edgar) oti the Story of Bltiebetrd, 29
Manx bishops, 352
Saints' embkma, 305
Two centenarians of the same name, 353
Bfacduff, Thane of Fife, 132
McKwan (A. L.) on a remarkable clock, 322
iL»n;owaii (Ittv. Jvlm), author of "Tbe Shaver," 283
5kGratb on a newly-horn ebild crying, 394
Poetry of the clooda, 518
" The Moses' D*light," &c., 446
M*Grigor (A B.) on RIooot Calvary. 62, 215
M*llaraith on " As cold as a maid's knee," 43
Nursery Uk, 43
Mcllvaine (Janper S.) on Hebrews ix, 16, 513
M'K. (J.) on Cul, Conl, 495
Maclaren (Mrs. Cbwles), scholaraliip in Edinburgh
University, 528
Maclean (Sir John), his knighthooil, 67
Maclean (Sir John) on Avery, or Every families, 288
KilHgrew family, 550
Macliae (Daniel), drawings m Fraaer's Magnaine, 213,
214; Ifameii', 467
Macphail (0,) oo eock-6ghting a centiify ago, 108
Kinlyre soperstitioM, 93
Ibfiny, (X) on Utbig^ taitinumy to French Ht«nti,
320
Mary, Queen of Soots, 533
Fittfy «r tiii ehNida, 397
riiwiimiiliwi of ArlMtknot, 490
Sm^borg Ubiw^i 1S4>
Ib^tn (0r. Wm.), ** Wlnteball," t5
IlilMRMMdttifin as a biaticll of th« cJiardl, 195
IfeMnwia, Mar Loot^ ^% 548
lWdai>nMMMttr,Usliol,34a,44l ^ ^
liUHtmon riMMM daX u»in»f«BJ«»« '"th Qaooi
AaM.l8S
M. (A, J.) m Udy Gnwom*^ ©»^ ^^^^
572
I IT D B X.
f latex SQppleaMnttA tto Votct Mid
t QoertflB, wltk Ho. ltt» 7aiy U. im.
Makrochdr on pboamz thnne, IfiS
ProDimciatioo of Greek and Latin, 13
Bhombns and Scanu, lSi2
•* Stxwk of iUw Ma," 890
Male and female nnmbers and letters, 407
Man, Isle of, bnrial place of its Usbops. 128; oouri of
the Gates, 409, 484 ; snoceBsian of ito biahopB, 184,
862; title of King or Qaeen of, 249, 882; Tyuwald
mU, 92
Man traps and spring gnna, 409
Man's animal nature, 430, 484
Manbey (W. J.) on Charles L's ribboD of the iOarter,
342
Mtfichester, the first book printed in, 64; chap bpoks,
110; '* The Seren Stars " ino, 267
Muichester (Robert, 3rd Duke of), marriage 3M
Manalanghto* and cold iron, 265
Mannel (J.) on Elecampane, 243
Findeme flowers, 313
Manx cats and fowls, 96
Marbnrj Don, a famed hone, 635
Maroh (Mortimer, Earl of), his sons, 209
Marriage cnatoms in the Highlands, 50, 267; in Aber-
deenshire, 55; of infants, 105; not alkmsd jfter
twelye o'clock, 364
Marriages, extraordinary, 361
Marriages of English prinoesses, 203, 289, 809, 897,
520
Marriot (Rev. Thomas), 282
Mar's year ezpUined, 186
Marsh (W.) on the " Adoration of the Umb," 150
Crivelli (Carlo), 270
" Messager des Sciences et des Arts," 348
Rood screens in Sufiblk churches, 143, 516
Saints* emblems, 421
Samplers, 525
Marshall (p:dw.) on SL Augustine, 259
Dedication of churches, 480
Fog, its meaning, 216
German prince, 235
Passage in St. Ignatius, 39
Marston (John), alias Crispinus, 469
Martin (John), M. P., his armorial pun, 181
Martin (Thomas), his prophecies, 32
Mary, the Blessed Virgin, her "Dream," 341; MS.
Hours, 535; painting representing her destb, 40,
173,245,368,410,517
Mary Queen of Scots, captivity in England, 451, 526;
German tragedy on lier, 533
Masey (P. E.) on Friday tree, 199
MedisBval bams, 224
St. Michael's Mount?, 200
Shop signs in Vienna, 206
Whale's rib at Sorrento, 180
Mason (C.) on clergy in Stepney pariah, 282
Mason (Captain John), 265
Mason (Sir John), his descendants, 365, 420, 495
Massacre, barbarous one in IndLi, 101, 221
Masson (Gustave) on the Gualterio pupers, 09
Key to " Le Grand Gyrus,' 149
Mathematics, lines on, 389
Maturin (Itev. C. R.), noticed, 454, 524
Maund ^ a hamper, 429, 506
MMonder (Smne]), noticed, 613
MMxwell (J^mes^ Paisley poot, 244
MMj^daj customs, 430, 525; at Oxford, 5\\
May (Cborgi), bookidler, bis diath, 468
Mayer (S. R. T.) OQ A'Beflkct's mordersn, 33
Hair growing after death, 66
Henley's English « Vathek,*" 35
Lanb^ Corraapondeoee and Wockt, M
(hiikaihrer fmntaina, 85
6hakspeare*s death: weitX gsMilngy, 62
M. (C. W.) on mosquitoes, 505
''Thaiigh krt to sight, to memory dau',"«
M. (E.) on a poem, *" Let them tear Urn," ecc^ 1 U
Meaim, monolitb at, 514
Madillio qneiy, 614
M. (E. E.) on Tranches Halasn Leetima, IM
Mflmoi7, an exiraoriinary i■rta]lc^ 471
Mendez (M.), ^'EpisUe to John Kliia,** 6
Maotil or Mennll family pedigree;, 889
Mereer (Andrew), deed of an award, 19
Meiks (Thomas), biaiiop of Garlitie, 86, 190
" Memger dee Bdnoas fft dsa Arts," 843
Metheringfann, fire at, 494
Meynell (Philip) on the Mentib or Mensili, J89
Memlnto pratB, 406,483
M. (F.) on Francis and Jnnins, 458
M. (F. D.) on Kalendia, 495
M. (F. W.) on Beethow'fl pwentagt, 257
Denarios of Drum, osn., 223
M. (G. W.) on Ralph Aodley of Ssndbacb, 11
M. (H.) on Sir John Maaon, 495
M. (H. 0.) on Herbert of Muckrnsi, 12
Michel (Frandsqne) on Akoee and LomuM, 281
Correspondence of Queen Anne and AladnM de
Maintenon, 188
Monsieur, mooaieiir, 188
Napoleon III., 405
New Song from Paris, 72, 158
Treason, a cry to anna, 362
Midas, origin of the name, 429
Middle TempUr on the prefix " Mac," 220
Middleton, singular custom at, 119
Middleton (A.) on derivation of Kipper, 409
Middletou (A. B.) on Gaiiuib<wongh'a •* Ulne Bi.y,' 394
Prints of Stoneheoge, 197
Miller (Joeiab) on venes by James Montgomery, 251
Milon (Jean de), physician, works, 495
Milton (John) and homceopalhy, 54; epitaph attri-
buted to him, 94 ; Poems, " Rivecs, ar'i<el " Ac, 137;
fourteen lines omitted in ♦*C«mu*," 384; hi« folk
lore, 514; Eeightky's edition of Mi ** Pueros," 531
Minerva press, its histoiy, 141
Miniature painter, D. D. G^ 454
Missale ad usum Lansannensem, 124
M. (J.), Edinburgh, on Dr. Arbuthnot. 8
Coldingham priory, 187
Frederick of Pruwda, aUeged letter, 1 1 7
Hume (David), pedigree, 71
James Earl of Glencairn, letter, 90
Loudon earldom, abeyance, 204
M. (J.). A'cwrtrit, on mummera, 121
M. (J. C.) on French word siguifying ** to stand, ' 437
M. (J. F.) on Eraser's M^gasine portnuts, 31
Lancashire funeral folk lore, 63
IL (J. H.) on Denarius af Drosiai, aeo , 95
Mi. on the siege of Breda, 56
\^
VlUa Kil. IA«, July U, iBTL f
INDEX.
573
ougu
bAllad<
hfdi^re (J. B. Poriaelm ilt), Emulator of JUs " ScIieQt
Couiedifs,** 365
i»t lletms, 514 '
(Cecil) on Bp. Jtstmy Taylor^ dnoiodnktSp
M6
IHms Valtur doicnbod, 3
itwr, monsieur, ita double sfo, ISS, ^11, 4S4
L Gmis Imuid completed, 10
tY«ltfne&, 135
1 familf , 30i
(Udj Mary Worlky), Ittlm, 1^ SIS;
I on Arthur Gmj, 207, 375
MoDtgomerj (Jnmes) mnd L^rd Bjraa^ 33, 106 • M»
earl J reracftt 251
llfofitbfl, «pithei5 on tli«^ 843^ 419, 445; ^meamkl
verses, 386, 464, 525
Montpen^er (MadomoisdJ* d»), 205
Mood, iht naw, «nd tiifl mild^ 445
Moot Pvk, EvrtfardBbire. tmgravl^p^ 300, S90
Moore (C. T. J.) on tho Mora fanu^, S96
Stockwell aQj;«lfi, 270
Mbofe (Sir ikoii^), Knt„ 76, 467
Moore (ThomaA), the poet of IreltAd, 317, 357; poero,
"The Ring," 125
Moorl&nd Ljid on blU ftdnullj jneseotsd^ 38
Goldamitb'a ilMdlled Kiw^j, f>, 84
HeT«rsb<m churcbf epiupb, 3S
Pretendti'ft cordialf 53
Scbooloutter abrotd in Stu^dahm, 181, 674
Spoon inscription, 74
' ' I (Cluiitophani«)^ «* Mum/* 159
^Um\[j, 226^401
t (Prof. AngnsttM do), his dtalh, 274
t (OoUrios) on Dr. Jofinaon's watch, 55
^Jewish marruige rin|pi, 495
l^iforpbf 0 (H.) on Jenoour nnxii, 549
Hegiment&l budget, he, 549
i (J. P.) on AsbbcmerB of FumeWf 131
Kewlj lioiti child crying, 394
Oldland (John), a riutJe poet, 158
Song, a Kortb Lcnoubir^, 423
Hortit (Bofaert) on tlie pttHini^b?!!, 499
Morritt (J. B, S.) and true onjoyment. 492
Mojtiffier (Sir £dmand de), piediffw, 12, ^23, 318,
437
Morton (Edward) on Sir Stephen Proctor, 456
Morrilld (Count de), letter to C«fd, GiMOltfio^ €9
Morwell (Sir Richard), nolif?«d, 895
Moaley (Shr Oswald), 1
Moeely fomily of Maid
;,, Lv, ^1,.,. 1
^i,JO, OJi^, *t J t>. JIJ*?
I Cup, 283
, n, 233
Motto: ' O&odor iyffi5ua;\534
Haandng, court, 257; or bkKikfd|ttd p«p«^ iOt. 307,
376, 443
Moisstebnnk of the last century, 302
If, (P.) on Isaac Disnn)i« 300
M4i»oa (Sir Jtibn), 365
M. (R) on "whether or no," 2^6
M. (t.) on Sir Peter Ldy'ji life ami wotki, 2&e
TmnjaaDitmA, 431
M. (T. A.) on Sttvigny'a " Trcntiee on Oi»Hg«lioQf,^ 13
Mom, a strong sort of beer, 429
Mamtners, Chri*tnm.s 52, 245
Mummy hnnting, 491
" MTtnlakhab al Taw4rikh al BftdAQm,** 54
Murillo (B. S.), illmtrntioiiB of tbe PradtgEl Sod, 120
llimthian on mirine nee, 45
l!aia£5f on Ordre Imperial A«nit^«e 4e Moi4l» DoU
Yttstiie 76
Moftkan (Priooe Poedtler), 77, 2e7
M* (W. T,) or Boros'e ** Aold lang ayner 3S6
Gnc\m bend, 123
*' Hie liber eat in qao," &c, 109
Johnson (Dr. Samuel), ^oeodote, t07
Memory of amells, 461
Poet prophecifli, 228
Scottish deed, 19
Sarrey churches destro»wjd, 47 C
Weaver '» art poeey, 149
Myops on scena: ftean^. 259, 415
M. (V. S.) m Bififaop Bedel re deaccodanta^ 104
Gary (Btfihop Mordeoai), 2S4
Crests legally awttmed, 257
Fuller (Bp. Wm,), parentage, 257
Habeas Corpus act. 161
Hynm: *' OttMe me, 0 tboa graiit Jiterab,^ 33
l4di li«t O^Neale, Iko., 35
O'Malley (Sir Samuel), bart., 9
itarfi^ of infiuita. 105
Sewell (Sir Thofias), 305
Swill (Godwin), 104
Mystery play of the Resurrect ton in Frenclj^ 1S4
N. on American national song, IffS
*^ Ar'iie! BritnnniA*a sans, ariee! "' 75
Smoking illegal, 198
K, (A.) on altar slab in N<irwich oatHedral, 485
HacofiDe, Ha meaning, 23(i. 315
Nakedneas, pbiloaopliical, 259, 375
Names, significant, 30; obaogca of in Ireland, 41? pu-
ritan chsngea of, 430, 596
Napoleon 11 L, literary co > 4 05
Nash (E* W. HO on "1^ '14
National Gallery, Anntiai uejinri, ir»i
Natinty, frast of the, early notice*, 142, 225
Naylor (Charles) on a barbarous maKaacre, lOJ
Beethoven (L. Ton), 353
N. (B.) 00 Puritan cJiangcs of oamet, 4iS6
'* Whether or no," 378
N. (B* K.) on Lbwyd^a IrUk maotiseripfcs, 42
Neale, not O'Neale family, 35
Negro proverbs, 43
Neill (E, DO en Nicholas Fenv afid George Baggie,
490
Neill's '* History of Virgmia Company," emtntD, 401
Nelson (Horatio, Lord), opiniea of German gefiet«U, 74
Nemo on '' a beast within tw," 430
Nephrite on the Blue Laws of Connaoiicnt, 64
Phi>Beta*Eappa Society of Boilaii, 2S0
• Toad^lone ring, 484
Neebitt (John), M, P., 366, 391
Newfoundland, its t^-l fi:.l,.*n. A19, 4«A
•' New MunthW M
Newsome (WO on . .id. 365
Newspaper, an old Dutch, iim\ ''«r[y .>eatta»b, 390
Newton (Ttev. John), line* tm a sampler, 273
New Zealand mednl, 197
N. (1, AO on Sandown Castle, 325
674
INDEX.
f Index Soppleaimt lo the IfoCM and
t Qaeriet, with Ko. 185» Jaljr 15^ im.
Nichols rJohn Gough) on rectorabip of 81 jean, 98
Shjucespeare and Ardea, 169
Unpublished letter of '* SX.,** 458
Nicholson (B.) on the arms of Crispinns, 469
JoDson (Ben), proprietonhip cf his Works, 230
Nicholson (Benton) " Baron,* 18, 286, 327
Nightingale (Ladj mizabeth), storj of her death, 277,
330, 352, 402
Nile, its overflowings, 186, 314, 421
Nimrod on BalljcnliUn, 8ce., 122
Fitzhamejs (Robert) or Harvies, 222
Henrej, Dnke of Orleans, 123
Herbert (John), 494
Loges (Roger de), 550
Neiirs " History of the Virginia Company,* 140
N. (J. G.) on Hares taking vengeance on mankind, 259
Mountebank of the last century, 302
Ward, as a personal name, 256
N-n. on the plant Lingaa anseris, 294
Smoking illegal,*293
Noble (T. G.) on Ben Jonson, 183
Noddy, an Irish vehicle, 23, 163, 267
Noel (Theodosia), wife of Visconnt Wimbledon, 124
Noon honses, 340
Norfolk (Elisabeth, Dncbess of), her will, 384
Norgate (F.) on " The greatest clerks not the wisest
men," 546
Norman TEdward) on coincidence of thought, 198
Norman (G. J.) on Barker's panoramas, 279
Norman (Louisa Jnlia) on Bismarck anticipated, 379
Norsemen in Cumberland and Westmoreland, 360
Northampton, the Rode of the Wall, 124
Northamptonshire feasts, 475
Northumberland (Earls of) their wives, 57
Northumberland (Robert de Comyn, Earl of), 18
Norwich cathedral, remarkable altar-slab, 360, 399, 485
Nostradamus (Michael), prophecies on the fall of Paris,
542
" Notes and Queries,*' Spanish, 202
Non^ (Seraphin de la) of Mont Valcrien, 135
Nous, a slang word, 85
Novelists of the eighteenth century, 246
Noyes (T. H.)» jun., on Sir Wm. Stanhope's portrait,
259
N. (P. E.) on Coldingham priory, 879
N. (S.) on Hunsdon church, 250
Nuceria, its ruins, 529
Nursery rhyme, " There was a little man,* &c, 20
Nursery tale, 43
N. (W.) on shard, or sharn, 199
N. (W. L.) on " Antlologia Borealis," &c, 160
0
Oakley (J. H. J.) on a remarkable clock, 350
Dis-spirit, 294
Phoenix throne, 268 !
Scena: Sceo^, 334
Thomson (James), a Druid, 225
Oaths, judicial, 209, 354, 440, 505
Obolns, a coin, 143
0*C. (W.) on Mrs. Downing, 289
O'Carolan (Turlough), portraits and skulls, 80
O'Connell (Daniel), his English descent, 242, 349, 444,
485
October society in London, 510
" Officinm deftwctorum,'* its autlior, 495
O'Flanagio (J. B.) on Sir Richard Bojle, 359
0. (J.) on mexzoUnto ptipts, 408
Oldland (John), ihymcster, 152
Olim on De Sayo or Say &mUy, 123
Oliver the Spy, 66
CTMalley (Sir Samuel), btrt, of oou Mayo, 9
Ombre, a game, 35, 167, 3Cf2, 398
Omega on stone altars m EngHah churcbas, 162
0-n. (U.) OQ the seven wonders of the world, 267
Oom (Mr8.).T«aDi8t, 210, 379
Oomered, or Umered, its meanfasg, 475, 550
O'Rafierty (Paddy), Hogg's song, 472
Ord (Chief Baron), portrait, 889
Orleton (Adam de), 58, 151
Orval, the prophecy of, 53
Cutis on numismatic query, 143
Ovid " Metam. xiii. 254," 455, 521
** Owll that lomt the boding sky,** a poem, 190, 292
Ox, a gigantic, 189
Oxford, the Heralds^ TisStotion, 355; May-day costoo,
511
P. on Sir Robert Bojle^ 289
Marriage of princesses, 309
Old families without coat anmmr, 344
P. (^Bur$lm) on new moon and the midds, 445
Saggar, its derivatbn, 459
P.* on Chignons, 481 «
Digamma, 481
GibboB'a ''Deerine and Fall," ed. 1819, 481
Junius's unpublished letter, 453
Knights of Charles I., 481
Strasbnrgh library, 473
Surnames of officials, 483
Worcester armfl, 463
P. (A.) on a caricature query, 493
Pagny (Maroellin) on *< Chateaux en Espagne," 271^
Painting, a mural one in Starston chnrdi, 40, 172,
245,368,410,497,517
Palmer family of Bath, 76, 285
Palmerston (Henry, 2nd Viscount), lines on his mar-
riage, 340
Palmerston (Henry John, 3rd Viscount), dismissal imn
office, 496; visits to Paris, 134
Pamphlet, Hs etymology, 439
Panoramas, Barker and Bnrford's, 279
P. (A. 0. V.) on Rokesby the spies, 344
St. Wulfran, 162
Selden's ballads, 496
Paper, mourning, or blackedged, 909, 307
Papworth's '< Onlinary of British Armorials," 47
Pardon in 1660, a fragment, 496
Parallel passages, 428
Paris catacombs, 22; pigeon post, 185, 291, 419; its
libraries and museums, 321 ; prophedes on its fall,
542
Park (Mungo) and the mosa, 298, 440
Parker (Robert end Thomas), 288, 475
Parkes (Joseph), Memoirs and CorrBSpaDdeoce, 74
Parochial registeifB, their histecy, 99
Parodies, works on, 15, 105, 177, 261, 996, 491
Parsley piert, or break-stooe, 355
Paaipaphy, works on, 316
^%a^v3 , « i:^w^ \«Ric\^ ^a\ft^ 854^ 623
\'
1(1 "'Ui
.i ?!§)??•
;W5
PauLiu, lis deav.ti
Patemfty, 24
patersoii (A,) on i
OJdScotcli El
Shwd, or shLlIT rn ' r 1
Pat«r*oo (Robqrt), - Old M.rU^U);. to^ily, u) ,. > »
pattersoii (W. H.) m J, Chv»ii, a canteMfiaTi, 301
Paul v. and the V
Paiilet familY of A
PAJUB (J.) ' i '*'
Bealoi,
Tjodttlv^ AT*-' *
P. (C. B,) on Bicon's l;
IHU&rioii*t5 servant,
rbojaix throoe, 268
Treveria* '' Grete HerbaU," 26S
What ctilic8 arc, -itJl
CD,} ou tho arms of BenttcliAmp fawUj, 3458
Arms of BenTenuto Cellini, 366
Brass ia Boitou cliuidj, 48^
Fenaicsii B«nichamp, 313; 505
Fert io the Satoy tamn^ 104
Gftnnwi imperUl flig, 322, 503
JeDklDA (Jobn)j a cantenwrinn, 523 rrq
Orders of kriighUiood, 100
r ^ L-.ter3,l97
I lafTic Queeo," 176
liv L,., ^ - Ahr.igUtcr'a, i^
Pearson family of Kippenrow, 36
Peck (Bfiv. Samuel), 285
the '* Chapeuti de I
PeUgios on ague chm
Artificial fiy-fifil
CbisA mauim, 442
Cook (Captain), tUroaMi, 1^7
Hlbbit^. 511
dF4i<1^ on stilts =r<"v
■U'i
'".4
14
■■■'J
Mi 4^;
Fenoytcrsan, or Pern;
' pe -'', uilusions in, 107
P^ri_ ; ■i.ireat Brluin, SfJ^
Peraiau uiauujK:npt o-
p. (E.) onclcveo shii
Peanioa (A. HciKvl-,. > . >■ ;;,uo Liwjitii, i
Peirwn(J.l'^^* -^ ian ^ jJiO
Fog, its Ditnoingt 2 L 6
Marine tose^ 150 ^.t^
OoHJtred. or Unitred, 5^
J?Lv rreanJii 113
Pm£Cic1c (J£dw»id) oa iUa
Tire al -
Guiiiiibu.„
Gantbe (iiine,
- Guats and W' * '
PiiTitciEi tJjaitgea oi Uiiiuctt 430
St. Wulfran, 335, 506
Sandt^ft reipterj 496 .
Sbecrwort, ita etyroologf,;l5tT* ^«<l
P0fC<^j^aF«
Pcn^TTy O^i''
Children'
Grti
, . Pit!
•■■- Stm; u..
rer0 (J.) w
Bear tav :
Bookworm, 34^7 ,1
Kersey (JfibnX»atlufliintiu»li#^ 323
PftrodAOfli, 261 "]■
Pettet (Charles) on tlie bookworai, 461
p. (Ff C.) 00 *"• ^^"^ Oxfurd «pigr»Bi, 321,
Sumplefs, 465 .„ . *«
P. (H.) 0(1 the Loiiiz faiTnly of Bayntoo, j«
i fhrlps (E. S. ■ ' ''
riii'Beta'Ktt} I
! Philip Norton, iU i...
I Pbiiri|Ks(SirTii<iri.
Phconix Park in Irt-KUii
I l^boBuix tbrone, a legomi,
I Photography: the w.-ir ai :
' Piaoofarte, early notice, 143
I Pigbler (MrO, gem «ngraTer, 322 ^9^
PickeU«iTUig,ft(iUoUor Merry Andrew, .ij-*,*^^
TpS^JobD) i» Lady — ^ ^^,.<rt«rn.nt. ,J3
** lL*j» H ftf: cry ><* ^
^empf (Joli'O '^ -
^Sliotook Llv , t>J
Pictou (J^'^^ M Iifoagb»m6 Mtc^hwgiaphy,
277
r. ■
lo ttiwit^/ 4')i3
>1, 419
B^; carrier o. w^gcui, 2d4i driven ^rom Fr*uoe
Piggol%Xi5.^^ -" .l«tV«nuird.r.r., 171
Barrow *xt x sue
i<"J^ / ven in iJcvuUhhir^ Vi6
« I alo), life and ^Torks, 161
Lely^B moil.
Moat^mtoeik
••^p£a«e?fiilbe»i^'^'''*e^
Railway matchi 2^"
Pinkerton(lfmOonl; - '
Porcclum meiijoiisil vi caaiiw u., j#
■i'l
4
157.J.
ii-'
!/*;
^ppft&o* ^'
Pipe K^I, 5 6tirptMO,i^6 . * f
Pitt (5lr^ HW)r a centenaiixu, l.iJ
PitU (Mr.). *>all*d printer 187
R (J.) on T«f8«» on the moi^^^ - ^ '
P. (J, H.)ooi»B««^'P^^
P. (J. TO on th^ppn q««<ir
482
Placard or stomacher, 389, 44&
n,^c( (J.) 00 0\xt or Dour, 22
ritUiMv,it»ni«MiDLgi^^ 173
rUcii Putonica, a dUease, 475. s.-»
PloT. plon, origin of th« pbr^utr 2»»4
PU.igh-bolo,lt» m^Komt V90
1 1 t > ^Ui^
iufflioioiiif
PooU, or hioqUh or»trfftii», 13, }l$^ ^ f
Pope (Aid.), ^ orki bj Elvlu. S6, 2?5, 50iS I
Pops (MlBa), ftctreas, 2 '
Pop« ol Boom, veto At tli^'ir •l^cUona, I &3, ^d
Foppft B»i^ or Qaoen of MMnilti^ XDU ,
PorccUin querj, ^10^ niaaurACt^^ry st Churcli Greilvf,
75; memorial of Chftrlea lit ^1 7 '
Forcupme, the fictful, 4£r3
PortUnd (Rkhard AVcttoo, lat Ewl uf), 325
Porta FioOj bunal-plac« of on Ebgltsti (^tiee£^ 2L^,
375
Portrait paintmg in water-^oloura, 384 |
Potten of the northern countieii^ t>6
Powell (Sir Joliny 4C5, .VC
Poller (C,V -oir fTA/, 226!
Pow«r (D,) , I
Power (E. H.) on Mr. U^uaham utj'i lu^ rtporttrs, 83 i
P. (P.) oQ a blAck country Jcgenij^ 2iS
Book finmraentAtion, i 1 1
Bookworm, 168
Cocanvber &od gberkm, PJ
Brooglijun (Lonl) ftsd the KigbtifigAle moma'
in«tit, 378
KDeeUqgin prajer, ^07
Knjgbt and enquire of ibt 1)o4j# 55
Laocasliire witches, 417
Nile, its 0Tcr£uwingr '^ 1
PAFodiw, work on, 105
Phoenix throne, 401
lioyal arma, 398
BojilEichi I
Stanley (T: >Qdor *|jd ll.*n, 2*)1
Prayen Ibr thedeau iu Luurciniuda darini; l7Ui> ISiK},
P. (K. B.) on Thomas Baskervllle, 4$6 ,
*' Ex lace lucellum," 518
P. (R. C. A.) oQ Corniih gpufcca m Dcvoitsfiirc, I J
PrcatoQietisU on I^jjicashire witches'
Pretender'ji cordial, 53
Ptuw>eai«fl, Boarriagcg of EeigliaJi^ **taj, ^c:^^ ouj, .ii^Tt,
5»0
J
I
fndci Surplriiicnt to the Natrs am) |
I^PiEX^
^77
FlBftlnUf lines on the metrical ^ot^ianVi 30^}
Faalter ecrvic«-book of the l3ih centbfy, 49^
pDliston (Edmrard), Ub fttsily* 124
Paope, or dancirgslioeij^ 389
^'PowV lb profibct, 33
Pmich-liidle of George III., 236
pQiming aod jesling oq fULmes, 106, 313
PuriUn cfajwigea of names, 430, 526
P, (W.) oa miwnjmoaB works, 343, 4 OS ^
Bdkdi '' The bftron Atcod Uhmd ik trtfl," $87
Bible i Hast mt ions, 11
CiLrt«r (John), bis dmmiXig&, 3a
I .Obaqgvof immes m Irelund, 4]
Greek and B^rmn literal ore, 475
Groaa eating, 429
HeliogaliDliu and cobwebs, ^35
Hogan, fc acting aiidilriiib'fjgp 430
** Id the straw,'' 407
B« Loodoii (G«orgt), gardener, 335
Mmn, A strong beer, 429
Memorial tableta at St. Bauets church, ^^S
^LtriL Sftwnaj Be«Of the man-^ter, 180 ' ^
Soogn, 410
" Tboagh loet to fiigbt» to memory dear,^ 5$
White Tower of I
P. (W. HO nn H*Dky .U
Sive and the WbiicjQjB, zt j
Witches m Ireland, 137 ,
»Pjcroft (JAineB)o]i Dr. Johnson's wak'Ti. 243
Pyrimida and the NiU^ 186
Q^IQ^) cnBritiaL acjlhed ebanr.ts, 95
Quare (Daniel), watchmaker, 402
•• Qnett) Aigeaw/* a poem, I4t>, 245
Qoickiilver fopnlaios, 85
Qui»(L7nn) on Maj-dajr^^lomit, 430
> ^,^ , A glowinjgltH benlittg o'er the atornjj 9G
rirst, 426
A part J in a parlour, 36
Aliqnando dormira' '-■■'^"-' t^'
k J£i Fer sodden joys,
God made man :<i
SSI ^ ^ ,,. ,
Hlo Uber est i n ^^6^ $tc,f 1 09 ^ ,
III tbe fierce light that beaU upon the thr^e^ 124
^Ji did-Qot knoWf poor fool, 365^ 446
Let them tejir liim, &c., Ill
N9 pent-«p Itbaca contracte yonr ^wers, 1S4
Nol thou art aot my first Ioyc, 429
Rob hoc Tocari debet, an domus louge? 96', 149
SapieoB est fi Una qni ooTit patrem, 314
StUl glidee the geptle &t ream let on, 293 .
I <fy Talk not to me of longitude nnd latitude^ 365
The aotioDfl of the juat smell sweet, &c.^ 162
The hietory of the world is the judgment of tl»
world, 456
The mpre X learn the lesa I think I know, 365, 447
The viad has a lAngoage T wL»h I could learn,
365,463,523 ,,
1^ If^'iiou^li Iwt to sight, ;to memory djpr„ $6, IIS,
244,332 "'
Tranquil it^ spirit se^^J and Honied ih% 365
When Itnlie doth poyeon want, 365, 446
f7^
Qnotationi :^
\\hm philoeopher* hafa done tbetf wonf, 365.
446
Whowyest^i ckwardi withaaroi!^ 124
Witty as FL. vus, 344, 441
Winter e cold bh^ts are gon^ f &&
R. (A,) on Prince Foeckler Maskau, 266
Piwt propbedBBTj 15!
Seven wonders of Wa lea, 143
Shropflhire sayings, 151
RadeclifTe (Nocll) on Joan d'Arc, 409
Galimatias, 174
Mental equality of the Mxes, 97
Portrait of lord Spynje, 410
St Thomas of VillanoT*, 431
Stella (JiKMinee), 7 1
Railway match in 1841, 280
Baleigh (Sir Walter), marglailia ijl hk ^HlSt^irte ht
the World," 36
HaBekgh (Coles, Barons of), 124, 201
Rant (Mary), hei* prophecy, 535
Bamagfl (C. T.) on Fmncis, Extl of Both well, 62
Bnrna*s relics and letters^ 449
lales of the Sirens, 337
Lande (Anne), aiioi Mrs. F^rgnssoc, 491
Mona Vullnr^ 3
Pulersona of Baltimore and *^ Old Mortallfyi* 218
Ruins of Terina aud Nnc^ria, 529
SigneE fotmJ at Baias, 300
" Veritaa in pnteo," 108
Ratcli ffe (Th omas) oa the A 1 1 1 ■ 3
Balloons Ji^iid aiego of Pu; >
Epitaph on Mrs. SasantjuL L-i^u, _->
La&easHre witches, 31 1
Twenty Pointa of Piety, :>] 0
Rayner (Wm,) on an ancient -
R (C*) on Alhaiwy and Amon :
Cresta, 443
R (C. J.) on Hampden family, 373
Ord (Chief Baron), portrait, 380
Stern hold and Hopkins, 324
Readings, various, in p.>eU', 32, I!>7, 25 j
Readyhoof or Kedi w; 1
Realm, ita difleren ot^
Hebetlloaof 1745,
BetJ Book, a mam: 199
Rederifife, co, Sorrtv, ^.'t
Refmn Billin 1831, 113
Regiment, the 8jity-6e<;ond, 46 ^^ '^
Regimental badges, mottoes, &,C„ 549
Regimental colours conaecnited. 28^
1?eid (Jamea) on author cf '• Pleasing JfelancholyJ* 54
Song, ** The Shan- Van Voght," 64
Ketchet, its etymology, 29^, 439
Beaver (Gastave) on Lord Jertsolder, 304 '
Reynolds (Sir Joahnk) aild GaiDsborongh, 30 G
R. (F. R.) on PnmoKs Abbey, 310
R, (H.) on tha doctrine of C«lJid'>fn 525
" WitlY ua Flaminius Fit
It (H, H.) V ** The Flret B^^
RhOtnbtis and Scartii, I3J2j 376
R. (H, K) on " is *' ftnd " K/i,'" 547
Plagiarkm^ 5"'
i *a«ti;air i
srs-
i^i%'±'
r ladnr Bavilcment (»««lSioi«r«id
Richard on media) val bams, 95
Biditrd III., tatobiography ofhis natvrfj koh,I^n, 271
Richard of Cirfenceater, historian, 332
Riddles, ancien^ .514, 54G
Ride, the abwoee of any French word, '* to rT./ ii31,
436, 504
Rimbaalt (Dr. E. F.) on the Advent liyinn, 41
Cleveland (Barbara, Duchess of), 66
Godolphin (Sydney), 507
Haynrs " History of Music," "23
Old songs and ballads, 506
"The Shrobs of Parnassus," 549
Ring, a toadstone, 324, 399, 484
Rings, Jewish mairiage, 495
Rio de Janeiro, its Irish legionaries, 403, 486
R. (J.) on " Et fiicere scribenda," &c,, 292
R. (J. Ck.) on Falls of Foyers and Glnmma, 62
Fog, its meaning, 216
Gates, Isle of ^lan, 484
" Gude Willie- wancht,*^ 502
ProQsnciation of Ariiathnot and Ruthven, 419
Segdoune, Segpidun, &c , 499
R. (J. R.) on Atfhbnmers of Forness, 227
R. (K.) on the ballad "Kilmeny,*' 323
R. (L.) on the doctrine of Celticism, 525
Smoking illegal, 352
R. (L. 0.) on « George Canterbury's Will,*' 257
CbiRcheB within Roman camps, 333
JamiesQD (Alexander), M.A., 142
Post praphecics, 42
Sampler poesy, 331
Roberts (Askew) on John Dyer, 443
RobinsOQ (C. J.) on Vicemdiniral Lionel Lane, 76
Manor bouses of Herefordshire, S87
Robinson (S.) on Imes on Gnido'* " Aurora," 13
Rochester Castle keep, 134; hospital, 21
Rochester (John Wilmot, Earl of), 3; portrait of Lis
daughter Anne, 259
Rochester (Lawrence Hyde, Eari of), 2
Rode of the Wall, Northampton, 124
Roger (J. C.) on Ay res, and Frere sumaroeB, 447
Cruikshank's illustrations, 40
Dragon delineated, 126
Heraldic, 146
Roger (Sir William), 165
Roger (Sir William), Knt., 82, 165, 242, 244
Rogers (Dr. Charles), on biographical dates, 80
Laird or lord, 175
** Paddy O'Raflerty," a song, 472
Roger (SirWniHam), Knt., 82
St. Leonard, 108
Rogers (Xehemiah), vicar of Messing, 77, 179
Rogers (Samuel), epigram, 388
Rokesby the spies, 344
" Rolliad," suggested annotated edition, 340
Roman pavement in Mark Lane, London, 402
Ronayne (Patrick), artist, 122
Rowl screens in Suffolk churches, 143, 267, 516, 546
Roscoe (Wm.), sale of his books, 471
Rose, the marine, 45, 152
Rosemary used at funerals, 20G, 348, 464
Ross family of Wigtonshire, 110
Ross (C.) on a word for Thomas Moore, 357
Phnse, »' In the straw,*' 482
Roesetti (Dante), picture of Lady GTe(?n»\etvw, 415 \
liossetU (W. W.) CD Shell ?y's *' Demon of ibeW'oiU:^ ^4 ^
Rougli = ruffian" origio of the word, 43l^4Uil.. . ■ r t- .
towdon (E.) on epigran^.fVOfql) Od Ihtton," 44ft -^ •
I ]|oyal Academy, Bariingtim Henec^^ tiw ^ Aa ■ iha ikfid
\ gallery, 96, 220 ■ -« ...;■ . . ■ i
Royal Albert Hall, 296, 316
ioyal assent to the Irieh Cbsnfa UU, 365, 4il
.lioyal households of.Sins.Patid and QRMn VilMi
■ ■ 428
Royal typograpbj, W
Royoe (Divid; on Bridy^tiaeniMi-IOS
Gloaeesteiibire folk iose, 471
Pardon^ 1660, 486
Stow^n.the^W«ld,4B0
B. (R.) on an old arinkiag joag, 2M
"Poetic Mirror," 177
B. (S.) on M Es " Md « Bo/* 1 W
Guide's Auron, print of, 821
Buthven, its pronunciation, 342, 419 • -
Bushworth (Joh«), Index to Ida -Hiitorkal iColhc-
tions,'- 149
Bussell rChiriea) im Pkoles family «f AmiMNt, JO
Russell (J. F.) on the pediTree of FaiWiiz, f57
Rust (J. C.) on Psahn zxui^ 210
R. (W. F.) on atoiy of & atsttie, 800
Russell (W. P.) on " The ConclUri," «70
S
Su on ChiUren's games in Sootland, 141
Darwio'e theory in J^n, 533
Discrepancies in dates, 9
EquifalaDt fortigtt titles, 113
Einsale (Lords), desoendants, 75
Orders of knighthood, 197
Surnames of Q6kiala in tJM West hidiM,A(»
Taafe familv, 476
Wreck of " The Temple " bog, 4L0 .
S. (A.) on book omomeoUtioD, 111
Friday tree, 123
Flemish fishermen in England, 513
St. Joseph's ere, 96
^ 3treak of silver sea," 445
Saarbriick custom, 107, 174, 294
S»bhft^Rj hoofM, 340
.Sftga^JWqnnga, 494
Saggar, its derivation, 452
Saint abbreviated to T, 479, 550
St. Alban's Abbey, its restoration, 228, 487, 527
St. Albans (Charles Beaoclerk, let Daka oQ, 3
.St. Anthony, engravings of hia temittAtMn*, 401% 483
St. Augutioe, '' si^endida ^coaU," 250; fiemuos, 17
St Benet's chnrch, Paul's Wharf, memorial tahbt?, 47a
St. Eloji or Eligins, bis lennoo, 305
St. Elphege, engraving, 483
St. Etbemin's priocr, 304, ^376
St. GnthUke, engraving, 483 .
St. Ignatins, passage attriboted to bim, 39
St. Jane or Joanna of Valob, 66, 150, 201
St. John on Sive and the Whiteboys, 401 -
St. J(din, medical order of, 235, 294
St. Jowph's ere, song on, 96
St. Juan of Dalmatia, engraving, -483
St. Leouaxd, two of the name, 108
St. Michael's Mounts of Cornwall and Biittnnj, 125, 20>
Sit. VoMXiE^Lsathart's MS. History, 36
tndfrx Supplemeul to the Xoteii aud I
^erl«ft. with Ho. !», Jtt)j lA, It/TUf
INDEX.
5W
St. Pftora c«tliedrd, ill oompktioD, 185^ 241, 344^ 391,
434, 460, 552
St Swittda on 6ction and fact, 494
Fi«sloo jAmjB, 475
St, TbotnAs of Villanova, 431, 481
St. VidcoUDf, 132, 526
St* Vmaio, an Irish Mint, 396
St Wttlfnm, 162, 269, 335, 444, 505
Saints' imblems, 305, 421
SaU (Geo. AtigiutDa) cm deriration of Gan, 57
Salkdd CWin.)i aeijaiiot-at-law, 236
Sampler poeay, 21, 126. 220, 273, 331, 465, 525
SamacH) (Rev. Richard), longevity, 66» 97^ 11J7
Samson (W.), aotbor of ** The Conciliad," 161, 270
Saodaliiiai on Mrs. CathtrizM Zephyr, 285
Saodcn (S.) on seal foaod in Ia!c of Ely, 324
Start's sditioo of ilia Common Prayer, 351
Sandown Castle, Isle of Wight, 103, 175, 325
Saodtoft register, 496
Sandys (Sir Edwin) and the bi&faops, 359
Satigreal. ar Holy Greal, 201
S. (A. r.) on the chanicter of Constautlne, 849
Becket's mordercrs, 196
Epgram: »* As Cjrril and Nathan/' 360
Lady Grimaton's grave, 76, 129, 195
I church scaisen, 517
, its deriTation, 206
hurifiuua on ** Anima Christ!/' 506
Lltargicai qnery, 495
i missal, 64, 177
lell (T«) OD Index to Bushworth's *' Oi^llectfoas,'^
9
tgny (F, C. von), ** Treatise on ObHgattoni," 13
i.'nS (E«aj)f Tice-ehamberkin, 3
twney Bean, the man-eater, 77t 180
g«ye, or De Says fatDily, 123, 272, 333
S. (C.) on bills actaalty presented, 269
" Tha strait gate and narrow way," 31 1
Want, as a personal name, 461
Scamds, its provincial use, 210
Soena: scene, 259, 334, 414
Sehendel (Pecms van), hi* deaths 25
Scbodtnaster abroad in Stafifbrdshiie, 121, ISO, 199,
311,374,465
ScoilaDdf list of its kings, 295; early cjneenif of, 344;
cocDpeUtofB for the crown, 363, 446 j Soeivty of An-
tiqoaries, 47
tt on the case of Mary Jobson, 76
Kobold of Groben, 96
[tidamsiQ America, 159
lisb guard of Francs, 455
newspapers, earliest, 390, 549
societies, 73
Scripait, or Christinas school piece, 145, 201 ^ 351, 462
Scrope (Sir Carr), Bart., 2
cndcry (G. de), Key to *' Le Grand Cyrns* 44, 149
ry (Madcmoiseile de), 44
. W.) on the bookworm, 168
"Arthur's slow wain,** 512
Parodies, 261
** Pnnch " a prophet, 33
(D.) on bell-ringing, 110
T Winchester Dotn am song, 140
lu the bio of Eh% 324
.wt.^J^e beads in tnedwval, 493
of straw and bay, 429, 506
Seats not carried away, 531
Segdotine monastery, 395, 4B 9
Seifferth (C.) on " A party in a parlour," 36
S. (E, L.) on a forgotten Homer ist, 362
HowUoson (Bobert), a ceotesariAS, 120
Irish noddy, 165
Twiss (R) '* Tour in Ireland/' 267
Selby family, 516
Selden (John), collection of balJuds. 496
Septoagint, works on, 515
Seven Wonders of Wales, 143, 267
Sewell (J.) on Gainsborough's " Biue Boy/* 237, 366,
391
Sewell (Sir Thomas), parentage, 305, 376
Sexes, Ibeir mental equality, 97, 223
S. (R) on " God made man,'* fltc,, 4l, 221
Handel'a Bfesslah, 304
Si^boards, 320
"* The Heaving of the Lead," US
S, (F. Bl) on the bookworm, 262
DMiu's ** Bibliographiciil Decameron/* 256
Privately-printed books. 13
Hofis family of Wigton»hire, 110
Smyth (James) of Whiteh'dl, n 1 5 \
S, (G. HO m Middleton custom, 119
ShadweU (Thomas), poet, 3
SbafUabarjr (Anthony Ashley Cooper, Ist Earl aQr ^*7
Sbakspeare (Willsain), tradition of bts death, 52 ^ and
the Ardeo family, 116, 169, his acquAiiUanco wiih
Lyly's ** Euphues," 624 j Works, early cditious, 181
ShalcaperiaiLa i^
Merchant cf Venice, 142, 27 1
TimoD of Atliens, Act iv, sc. 3: *' Tott waot mvch
of meat/' 350, 465
Shannon (Francis Bovle, \lscount of)^ 258, 454
Shard ^ cow-dnng, i05, 199
Sharman (Julian) on baby's corals, 21
Bacon's Queen*s counsel^hip, 291
Laws respecting battoue, 73
Manslaughter and cold iron, 265
Nous, a skng word, 85
Parodies, worka on, 16
Philosophical naked ncsiS, 375
Sharpe (Rkhani Scrafton), noticed, 55, 14$
Shaw (Samud), on the bookworm, 16S
Scripait, 145
Shearer (Isaac) on Benj\ FrauklinV kurel wreath, 189
War medals, 131
Sbeerwort, a pknt, 26, 151, 244, 832, 463, 527
Sheffield folk lore, 299, 439
Shelley (R B.), "Demon of the World," 24; **Ques-
tioD " 455; " Oiymandias," 456; " Adonais," 456
She well (W. M.) on the great boar and nuiumer fail, 379
Shield (Wm,), song/^ Heaving of the Lead,*' 65, 148
Shillings, Ken, 187
Ships, Ch'mese ruddera of, 162
Shipton (Mother), life and death, 25
Shirley (E, Ph,) on Irish folk lore, 299
Irish forfeitares, 21
Stanhope (Sir William), 353
Stedman &mily, 335
" Thoughts of Patricius," iu author* 97
ShoQgles, its derivation, 186
Shop signs in Twtiua^ 20^
Shonh^juM (^3.B.') m aj4oro\n^^^\va.'i^^
580
ISfDB^X.
f Indftc Biii)(de9BKSit to Ofv Votrnm
Shropehire sayiDgs, 9, 131, 221
Sicilian tyrant, 431
Sickle Bojne, 236, 313
Signataries, an adjactive or noun, 44, 176, 331
Signboard for teetuUllers, 320
Signet foond at BaioB, 300
Simma (Wm. Gilmore), hh death, 406
Simon (Thomu), appointment as medaU&C^ Alft'
Simonides (Oonstantine) and tha ** Codtx' SSaudtkm,"
77, 179
Simpson (W. Sparrow) on Dogdalif'a St. PftnTa) 981
Panning and jetting on names, 106
Samm misaal, 64
Teeth folk lore, 85
Sirens, the Isles of the, 337
Sive and the Whitebojs, 124, 269, 401
& (J.) on Lord Bjron's <' English Bards,* 28
& (J. R.) on WilUam Baliul, 302
Skaife (R. H.) on the Hon. Gatherino SoutboolKv 64
Terrick (Richard), bishop of London, 104.
Skeat (W. W.) on Da Bohtua, 24
Chatterton*8 knowledge of Aftgk^Sazon, 278
ISb and En, GO
Riddles, ancient, 546
Skedaddle, its derivatioo, 351
Skerring = sliding, 121, 265
Skwkeobergios' '' Treatise on NoseA." 125
Sleigh (John) on " Eikon Ba«llke," 9
Winnel, orWjnneU (Ber. Tbomvi), 191
Sleigh (Joseph Fenn), Goldsmitfals Elegj oo him, 9
Slow- worm superstition, 427
& (L. y.) on Cbaavinisme, 408
S. (M. A.) on samplers' poesj, 126
SmalUpoz in Wales, 1722, 301
Smells, the memory-of, 178, 413, 481
Smith families, the heraldry of, 49, 175, 313
Smith (Hubert) on John Eingslow, the rechise, Sfl3
Stedman family, 259
Smith (W. A.) on '* Though lost to sight," &c., 244
Smith (Dr. Wm.), temp. 1539-1555, 77
Smith (W. J. B.) on hnbies' bcllji, 291
Inkstand of Wedgwood ware, 272
Mummers: waits, 245
Toadstone ring, 484
Smoking illegal, 198, 293. 352
Smyth family of Ireland, 122, 125
Smyth (James) of \Vhitebill, 515
Smyth (J. J.) on Smyth, alias Herir of Wiftwte, 125
Snaix on five third-pointed spires, 132
Snop, a sonnd made by a billiard ball, 515
Societas Albertorum Antiqaomm, 56
Sodni, mounment to the, 381
SoldJera, maimed, in 1659, 495
Solnta, in parish registers, 314
Songs and Ballads:—
American national soi^ 1 1, 78, 198
Arise! arise! Britannia's sons, aritt! 75
Arthurian ballads, 472
Ballads, English and Scotch, 552
Bonnie Annie Laurie, 490
Brides of Mavis Enderby, 322
Bring ns in good ale, &c., *224
Bumper Squire Jones, 17&
Christmas carol, 23
Colombia'f ahorw on widt and mU, U,U,\»^
Bcmg* aad Bidkidi:^
Cum Roger ta me as thou art my sen, 428
Danish boy's song, 24
Death and the Lady, 202'
Dongks! Donghul tender and tne, 23
DriiSung song, 454, 527
Dulce EMntmi, 140
Ferrers (Lady), 209, 334
French convivial, 58; " O mm IKen! fit ftun n
pcCMe," 72, 115; war, 145, 158
Goody bottled ale, 44
Gny (Arthur), the footman, 207
Greensleeves (Lady), 475, 550
In automn we shonild drink, boys, 294
Kihneny, hyvlamea Hogg; 929
Lanriger Esfstias, 824, 39»
NOTth Laneaahire song, 428, 543
Nutting^ 162
0 happy coontiy life! pure like itvah*, 427
Order of the Bath, by Lord ChesterfieU^ 207
Paddy, or Peggy, O'Raflftrty, 472
ParMBand Baeeo, 171
Pleasant song, 822
Robm in search of » wife, 549
Shan Van Toght, 64
Similes to Molly, 410
Songs, old, and ballads, 398, 506
Swan-song of Parson Averj; 20, 148, 288, 4SS
Swiss spring song, 231 •
The Baron stood behind a tree, 387
The Boj and the Mantle, 247 " ^
The Goontry Life, 427
The Golden Pippiir, 218
The Heaving of the Lead, 55, 148, 2DV
The Hefar of Lione, 473
The Pauper's Drive; 365
The Souter and his Sow, 361, 467
The Thought, or a Song of Similes, 410
The True Mayde of the Sontir, 390
The True Toper, 58
War songs, 10, 145, 158F
Whinny Moor, 63, 133
Sonnet qnerie^ 466, 545
Sotheran (C.) on De Saye or Say family, 383
Fuller (Bishop Wm^}, 351
Man, King or Qoeen of, 332
Southcote (Hon. Catherine) in 1736, 64, 177
Sp. on Ayre family surname, 386
Cary*s ^ Palnologia Ghronieaj'' 143
Children's games, 415
Cooke: Cookes: Cookeaey, 310
Flemish families arms, 310
Fraser and Frisel fismilies, 55
Ham taking vengeance, 352
Hood (Thomas), and varioua rsadiagB; 32
Pearson family, of Kippenross, 36
Perche (Counts oQ, their anna, 221
Prosody, 255
Scottish societies, 73
Smyth families, 313
Spanish ** Notes and Queries," 209
Spenser (Edmund), allegory hi tba *^filurfiB QoNB,"
real persons init, 49, 176; typognphieal ecrai,a8
the poet of Irehmd, 317; his Paaops^ 283
, Spires, the five Engfish ef th&rd-pointad ditSL 291.181
I IT D EX.
581
Spoon ioMripiioaai Etwall Eail, Dfirbj^fthiie, 74
& (P. WO oa a gem query, 322
Sun-dlfU ioacnptioQB, 256^3^21
Spyni« (iJid Lord}, notified^ 410
S. (R. B.) on " Hiiut of bearts/^ 46d
Sundial iDdcriptions, 546
3. (S. M.) on baptiAm for tlio dead, 263
FxctB in anejcprcted placos, 207
Ne^vton (Bti^. John), Imea on a sampifix, 273
Ss (T») on Sir John FowcU, 307
Stafford family, 387
Stafford (John), abp. of Caoterburjr, &miljr, 253, 350,
500
Stamp OD Pic Lure canYos, 97, 195, 243
Staci^, the abAeneo ai muj Fmtcb wofd aigtiifyisg " to
fitaDd/' 278, 435
Stanhope (Sir Wm.), portndt, 239, 363
StanJej (Dean) otx Moriilo'ii picliirsift of \h& Prodigal
Sou, 120
Stanley (Sir Jubn), 500tiOd king of M«xi» 249
Stanley (Thomas), biMhop of Sodor aod MaO| 96| 201
Stanley (Sir Thotnos), «pitapb» 190, 292
Starkie (Liflul. €tl.) on mwzotiiit of Olirer Civmw^ll,
374
StintOD Cbnieb, muml poiuUflgf 40, 172, 24£, 363,
410,497,517
Sfcatimtots. mK ^32, 273, 289, 418, 461
Statue, story of one, 125, 200
S. (T. C.) on tba dnsam of Eli^bdtJL dft TAfobt, 409
Motion and capeia, 190
WordAWortb, Constab^ &«,, 233
Stodnum Damily, 259, 335
St«l]a (Jacquea), aftist, 77
Steplieaa (F. G.) on *'Ea»7ij Diviiie, Moml," &c,
418
Stepney parbb, it« clergy^ 282 { meisoiial bdlsatSt.
Dnnfitaa's* 511
Stflriiiig(Capt.£dwErd), "Tbuod«rar uf 'Tba Timea,' "
456, 524, 553
idd (Thomas), version of Pb. Izxriii 4G, 324
son (John Hall), his " Craiy Tales,'* 154, 291
rddon (Thosv), jun., on Bramluuu cUurcb. 237
Goiaot and Gnifld, 333
Jesters on aliipboanl, 2U9
"The Hob In the Well," 417
Stllta ==i!niU^«B, 243, 314
Stock well angels, 270
Stone (W, G.) on book oroamMitatioo, 147
Story of a statne, 200
Stofiebengft, old phnta of, 36, 179, 197
Story and Ob expansions, 32
Stow>in ibt-Wold, ita iir«t diocese, 344, 420
Strait gate and narrow way, 93, 226, 311
Stnubm^g library, iu CMtoratioo, 120, 223, 448, 487,
552; Uaenel'a Catalogue, 473
Street (£. £.) on '' The Deril beata bia wUe," 25
Street {Q. £,) on the completion of Sl Paura, 434
Stuart (Charles Edwerd), grandaon of Jamee XL, an
alleged letter of the Klcg of Pni«aia to bim, 117
Stnart (Janice Frascia Edward), son of Jamee IL, bi^
binb, 191
Start (JohnX ediOon of the Commaii Prayer, 283, 351
tyring family, 324
uffolk (Cbarlea Brandon, Duko oQ^ 220
ummer rainfall and tbe Great fiear, 300, 37H
Sun-dial inscriptions, 255, 324, 377, 2109^506^522,
546
Surnames of offidala in tbe Wfst Irriira^ 406, 483
Surrey churohBt deatroyed in 1668, 476
'* Sufiau and Kubcccji,*' ita wreck, 305
S. (W*) tn Jiisop's Fttbles by Bewick, 342
*' Danish Boy's Eoog," 24
Gkdh, ita derivation, 454
S. (W. A.) on Briliiih acytbed cbanota, 460
Sweeting (W. D.) on reasons for gijlng to cbutcb, 100
Kectorsbip of eighty -oue jean, 98
S, (W, 11.) on F&raday'a pede&UiM feat, 266
MarriAgc of EngliAh princenea, 28i9
Mourning writing paper, 209
Norwich caLbedral, Ita altar slah, 360
Pbilosopbkial oakedneM, 375
" The Prodigal Son/' 407
Swift (Godwin), 104
Swift (Dean Jonathan), satire oa bimr 418
Swiae spring song, 231
Switzerland invaded by the £flgiiib iii 1975, 36
Syon fiouM nuns, 408
T. on parish regiBters at Batbadoes» 406
Taafe family, 476
Talbot (Elizabeth), her will, 384
Talbot (Sir Gilbert) and Cal»ia in 1512, 139
Tancock (0. W.) on Britisb scythed cbarioUf 503
Tapestry portralta, 511
Taverns, inna, &c., collectiooa for thelc blaUify, 512
Taylor, not Tayloor, faniily, 35
Taylor (Bp. J«r«my), destendant*, 143, 290, $16
Taylor (John) on Nyrtl>aaiplo«abir« feaeta, 475
T. (B.) on Pichler, a geta eiigc*i?er, 397
Toadetooe ring, 399
T. (G. B,} Q& *' Mela BdtanniciiB," 76
T. (C. E.) on Englkb versitotion, 390
ToA, ita early o^ 139
Teeth folk-bre, 85
Teetotallera' signboard, 320
" Temple" brig, ita wmik, 365, 410
Tenby, its derivation, 60, 61
Tennyson (Alfred) and Congrew, 301, 376, 48«
Tunny&onianft, *131
Terina, its ruins, 529
Terrick (Bp. Bi chard), biography, 104
Tew (Edmund) on " the biltar eod," 85
Gonstantine, chat»ct«r of, 303
Difl-spirit, 186, 377
** Hie own opinion was liia law, ' 1 (>i>
Kibes, a Tbeban philoeopher, ua, aai
Mount Calrary, 103, 372
Orletoii (Adam de), 151
Patcbin, ita meaalog, 21
Fierca the PlDngbmana Orede, 85
Popular method of obsenriog flcllpsaa, 472
PronxutoislioQ of Greek and Latin, 173
Huh fttatements, 232, 289
St. Igimtiiis, panage atlribiitid. to^ hk^ 30
Scena: Scen^, 334
Strait gate and narrow way, 99^
'' Veritaa in pDteo," 199
Tewars on marriages of Eo^lLib prmeeoai, 2(k3
Duke of BQckingham'a mother, 544
Fltshftro^, or HaKTiei> ffl]iitU«a,.292
BMlflnliip «f df hlT-^Oi jean, 98
r (bwiX Scnnon oo the Plrfld^»I Son, ll
TfrtMB (Bidiftrd), bkbop of Londoni 104
M thtmp^ la«l to light to mnnoij dctr^ 5.1i!
Tbkf, tbt rcp«Uiit, 490
Tlikkld (Cbtffat) 00 Rfajm* lo widoir, G2
TliOBAi (£. C.) on iOQ^, ** Laoriger Honiitt«^* 399 1
ThofBA (W, J.) OD Hob»t Boirnui), ttntcOArUo, 38
CLftoeer'a birUi, iu date, 338, 47d
Tbomtoo (Sir Aleuaderl kiuetitL^xvl 2?4
Thofubttfy (W,) on Bofe. vtd, 532
** Tilt wiad b«i a luigun;;?; i*':i
Thotighl, ootociilimov of, 93, t98
Tliro»tl« lUtl ctiftotn, 119
Thiupp (J.) 90 Wi1pp1e> Uftil-brtub, 410
Tlttu on BMioolUh At M«^rfii, 5t4
Tiadttnia (B.) oo German et^rmological dletiMMrief,
456
*' TiOiii " Qtiitpopcr, iU " Thaitdcrer," 456, 524, 553 '
" TJia«i Whbile,'* bj R. C, »7, 130 1
Tlniack (Sif Oor^^eoua) oo Mr, 5l John, 346 '
Tlt«(B(r Wm.) uo Irtiera of KcM Gwjn and Kinj
Titlcra of tugif, 110,224
TiUi-A^ «miivaleta foreign, 12, 113
*i\ (IC F.) on >ti& never eettiag on tb« Bdtiab do.
tniiilQ(af, 210
T — Q. 00 equivaleot fimigo lillei, 12
lottdi OQft gUuidiiliir iwellinga, 210
Toidjtooi ring, 334, 399, 484, 540
TotMio^ Uken medtciDallj^ 53
Tula Tidilltir'v ground, 57
Toflbridge Welb, **GQid«»," 487
Topognphj^ works od, 456
TomTiftrncou, local, 105
Tower of London, tho White, 211, 309, 394,
oK*ie< *u1j No. 1,15. Jurr liiWt f
172
b
Vertikm (Eiirl of) ou
'victorfii (Qaeerr), Itniprcsi ot loai
Villegaa (R. F. AlfonaD), - TUe i
178. 293
VUll^rti^amily ^gre*, 451, iji4
TSflitrtC^^ '' * "■ • '"1'
■^ Vergil; Er j:>
VivesCJaL.. . ,, ,, , '
Vm»a (Chtrioaii to Ktrk S .
. Volt*iriaii*p 431
Voliinteer corps m 1744-5, 284
VoodOsiiem, origin eP tbe term, 210
W. on Fwreyinga Siig»» 494
SWkdd (Serjeant)t ist
W^, Brighton, on *' Hmta to Chairn
W. (!,) on the bookworm, ^tt
Fog, itfl meanini;' "'^ '""
FooU's **Cbryi^.
Quotation, 162
Sua-dial inacriptiwi^ 377, 622
Ward, A3 a pr^oflal nAtne, 330
^Yfldell (P, H.) OT " Gnde.willie waucht/' 502
Wftddin^ham (T. J.) on aong *' Laiirigcr Horatiufi,'* 324
WiigBtaSe (Tbomafi), nonjuror, oooscc ration, 10
Wake (H, T.) on cobbler^' l*mps in lulj^ IS2
CftkiiandSirGi' - ' *^-^ ^ ^^ ^
Luke (Sir Sflmue ^2 ' * y.-
Walcott (M, K C.) or, teries^ 263'
Dedicatioos of cburcb«5, 60 j
Glatlan, a ship, 548
Gnn, an engitn of war, 149
Wales, ilfi seven wonders, 143, 267
Walesby (Thomas) on John Bmle^' longn'ity, 254
WalUa (Geo.) on Lair growing iifur dwtli, 83
Walpolo (Sir Robert), expelled the Hoaac if Cummooe,
410, 526
WaUh (Father Peter), " frkh CoJoar^i i 7 i
WaUingbam (Sit Francis), Journal, 354
Walter (J. G.) od tbe bookworm, 169
Mnrtl paintlDg in Btarstoa cKurcb, 173, 368 ,
497,517 ;
Waltlnmataw pari»li lanii 144
Waltfaeof on Btecl bu, '
WiiltbainitOW P • 4 4
Walton (Bev. Tb^maa), 282
War medab, number of d^apa, 13, 131, 294^ 482
Ward, itB ctymolopy as a periODal nam«, 256, 350,
481 I fjimily anus, 273, 351
Ward (S.) on liicbai-d Plantagenet's aDtobiograpby, 150
WArtfi^ meaning wealthy, 84
Warren ^C. F. S.) on tbe cliimRnU of the Sootti«h
crows, 446
W. (A, a) on the Zodiac ortNjoderab^ 65
Wwon (J,) on chess in Eagkod and. Cbioii, 34
Watcbee of dialing uisbed men^ 25^
Watson (Arebd.) on *■ 0 Gemini,'^ 441
Wattgh (F. G.) oa Keats* ^' La Belle Dume aans Merci,"
324
"Tbe New Monthly Magaaluo,'* 475
" Witty as Flaminiiw Flaccua," 441
WiixigU (ft,) on Leatbftit'a MS. of St. Pftncras, S6
.^..^.T
'446
U3,44S
220
Wai, black, ita aark iisp '^''^
W. (C, A.) OD French .,
Sign«itar}' and SSj
W, (C. EOonC)>
W. (aL.)anM^i
W, (E,) on Longs and PuIuk
PoU^ton family, 124
Bight to quarter ar- -
Swan song of Farn
Weale (W. H. JO on a <
Weare (Rev. Thomas Wm,), i.
Weathercocks, Lntin rbyintn:
Weather aayings, 18, S J
Wearer's art, allu&ioos *
Webtf (T. W.J on V
Garroona or
Gentlemen, n^ .... — ,. , .,,
Webb (William), % oenlenarian, 12U
Wedding custom in Wales, 265
W^eperPr ^^^ at moaroinga, 257
WelUngtOQ (Arthur, Diike of), aneodote, 4QQ
Wells, custom of adorning, 107, 294
Wclah wedding cuatorn, 2S5
Wells cathedrAJj Arabic numeral^ iu, ^i^^ .^-
Westbrook (W. J.) on the Advent hyinn/217
HAUdeFs concerto fgr live hurp, 207
Oom (Mria.), piftmst, 210
West Indiei, eumames of offloifl)!!, 406^ 483
Wesleyan Ma^azii, "
Westlock (G.) 01.
Weatmoreland gtUi^ ->
WiBtwood (TO on arlii.
Hood'fii "Lee Sbor ,
Pfinte of Stoaeheuge, 17y
W. (HO on Robert d« Comyn, 18
Hearth tax, 112
W, (H. AO on Anima Chriati, 322
ChrifitophcmiB Morales, 1 59
^' Coutumier of Order <»f ibe Virgin Maty," 322
Whate*a rib at Sorrento, 36, 84, 180
WhiUki!!- (Dr. T. D,), initial ^ttecs ia hti ** BUbmond
uhirfl and Leeds," 237
Whitfield (Sir John Hiirman), -n^.'^
Whiting (Jamea), bia dentil, 'dbl
Whitmore(W. IL) on Parson A v fry's Swan -song, 288
Smoking illegal, 293
Wliittingham (WmO, Dean cff Diiiham. his lift*. 354
Whittington (Sir Bichard), I
Wickham (WmO oD^lAck-jt^
" Whether or no,*' 485
Widow, rhjmo to, 62
Wilde (G.J. de)on "T " '
Hunt (Leifb), *' '
Parall^^l T,.,;.ur,.., ;, .
Pha^ 1*4
Rode >rurth:tmptaD, 124
Soni^ ■ i ')
Typ:, , ::!,,4o2
Wilkio (Sir U^vidj, ri>uced, 41 j
Willement Crbomaa), Jonth, 24G
WiUiam IIL, bis stirrnps aivl i!
W'dllam of Malmeabary, '* C
Wniiams (CO or. a curl-uii '
Hair
WilUama(i lor
Wilson (DmielJ, on Krox h iii>iihe at Edinbtttgh,
no sans Merci, " 399
- in TawB," 132
584
INDEX.
{Index Snpplemeiit to tlie Kot«t Mid
QiuMei, with JTo. 18S, July IS, 1871.
WilMm (John) on Richard Plantafcenet, 151
WiUoD (Robert) of March, Ely, 324
WUtoo (Rev. Edward), his death, 448
WindhMri (Sir Wm.) and the reporters, 83
" Wink" or " blink," theu: correct use, 325, 459
Winnel or Wjonell (Thomas), 191
V^nnington (Sir Thomas E.) on boant* ears, 256
Bnrff, its deriyation, 282
Garter (John), his drawings, 35
Edward the Confessor and the ring, 474
Good Sir, and Dear Sir, 235
Henlej (Re?. Samuel), 1 13
" Hob in the Well," a sign, 310
Stanley (Sir Thomas), epitaph, 191
Son never sets on the British dominions, 293
Theocritus, ii. 2, 56
Winter (Admiral), his pun, 107
Winter sayings, 18, 84
Winters (W.) on McAlpin clan, 291
Montagu (Lady M. Wortley), letters, 293
Peer tree farm, 18
\Vitchcraft in Loudon in 1868, 53
Witches in IreUind, 137; in Lancashire, 237, 311,417,
504
W. (J. S.) on Ovid, " Metam. xiii. 254," 521
Maturin (Rev. R. C), 524
W. (M.) oo Queen Victoria, Empress of India, 409
Woroestenhire sheriflb, their arms, 410, 463, 549
Wolfe (Gen. James) and the 20th Foot, 53
Woodcroft (B.) on portrait of John Kay, 142
Woodspring priory, 396
Woodwrnrd (G. M.), ** Something concerning Nobody,"
474
Woodward (J.) on arms of Charlemagne, 400
Certosino, 400
Flag of the new German empire, 416
Margaret Fendles, Lady Mortimer, 43S
Wordsworth (Wm.), sonnet in Walton's Lives, 233, 312
Worley (G.) on Staffordshire and American folk lore,
91
Wrazall church, ai-morial bearings, 423, 486, 536
Wray (" apricious "), 259, 372, 466
Wright (W. A.) on book omameotatioo, 147
Wright (Wm.) on Samuel Mannder, 513
W. (T. T.) on " The CoocUiad," 161
Lancashire timber halls, 442 '
Milton's folk lore, 514
New York superstition, 299
Wnlfruna, a Sazoa princess, 13, 132, 222
W. (W.) on bells at St. Donstan's, Stepney, 511
Wylie (Charles) oo John Dyer's portrait, 232
Hunt (Leigh), ** Leisure Hours in Town," 270
Johnson (Dr. Samuel), " Life," 43
Locket's Oidinary, 112
Newly born child crying, 394
" That man's father," &c., 24
Xerxes, the canal of, 97
X, (L.) on '^ Le Farceur da Jour et de la Nuit," ] 2
Y Blaidd on Welsh wedding custom, 285
Yarker (John) on Jscob Bohme, 65
Yarmouth (Charlotte, Jemima Henrietta Boyle, Countess
oQ, 258
Y. (J.) on " The Garden of the Sonl," 513
Yeoman, its meaning, 255
Yeowell (J.) on William BaUol, 433
Hippocrates and homosopathy, 109
Yorkshire Archsoological and Topographical Journal,
67 •
Yorkshire Prayer Book, 13
Y. (W.) on quotation from Young, 201
Zephyr (Mrs. Catherine), a caricature, 28f
Zetetes on putting to death by torture, 305
Memory of smells, 416
Zodiac, the present signs, 344, 445
Zodiac of Denderah, 65
Z. (Z.) on the dragon, 125
Feast of the Nativity, 142
Ombre, a game, 167
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