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now, make johnson's speaker job is in jeopardy. we are live with democratic congresswoman becca ballot. why she voted no on legislation funding is real. >>> plus, from the kremlin to congress, the chilling impact of russian propaganda seeping into american politics with the far right republicans taking the bait >>> and a growing crackdown on protests in this country. -- daughter of congresswoman ilhan omar and her first tv interview since her arrest during april palestinian protest at columbia university. let's do it. >>> so after months of delay and dysfunction, house speaker mike johnson finally managed to push through a long stalled aid package. just hours ago, in a bipartisan vote, lawmakers approved three separate bills that will send billions of dollars in foreign aid to ukraine, israel, and taiwan. a fourth bill, including a variety of national security priorities, like a prospective tiktok ban and sanctions on russia, china, and iran also cleared the chamber. the senate is expected to take up the package, which totals over
now, make johnson's speaker job is in jeopardy. we are live with democratic congresswoman becca ballot. why she voted no on legislation funding is real. >>> plus, from the kremlin to congress, the chilling impact of russian propaganda seeping into american politics with the far right republicans taking the bait >>> and a growing crackdown on protests in this country. -- daughter of congresswoman ilhan omar and her first tv interview since her arrest during april palestinian...
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but it could cost mike johnson his job. now democrats may have to save him from the likes of marjorie taylor greene in his own party. robert garcia and andrew join me live to discuss the stakes. >>> trump on trial, opening statements are set for monday and in the election interference case. we will look closer at the jury that will decide his fate, whether trump will testify, and the tough questions he will face if he does. >>> and 25 years since columbine. the deadly high school shooting in colorado still haunts america today. we will discuss what has changed and what has not since that fateful day on april 20 1999. 1999. this is the saturday show. w. >>> after months of dithering delay and denial, the house has finally passed foreign aid legislation for our allies. with 311 votes including all of the democrats, $61 billion in desperately needed funding for ukraine, part of it in the form of a loan was approved. the big bipartisan vote was also notable for one big reason, 112 republicans voted against it. that is more than
but it could cost mike johnson his job. now democrats may have to save him from the likes of marjorie taylor greene in his own party. robert garcia and andrew join me live to discuss the stakes. >>> trump on trial, opening statements are set for monday and in the election interference case. we will look closer at the jury that will decide his fate, whether trump will testify, and the tough questions he will face if he does. >>> and 25 years since columbine. the deadly high...
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he personally thanked mike johnson. johnson, who is fighting his own battle to retain the speakership as he faces a possible ouster over the ukraine vote from now three members of his caucus, led by marjorie taylor greene. we will have the latest from capitol hill, and here in new york, where a jury is now in place after the first week of donald trump's hush money trial. and trump says he is ready to take the stand. joining me now is our capitol hill correspondent. you had a very busy day, julie. with these aid bills passed, what is next? >> s nereporter: what is next that the senate plans to take all of these bills up in one package. that is funding and also a bill that would ban tiktok, as you said, if the owner, the parent company has ties to the chinese government, does not sell tiktok within one year. it would be banned from the app store in the u.s., certainly a devastating blow to the millions of americans who use it every single day, but the reason that was part of these bills is because many lawmakers and the i
he personally thanked mike johnson. johnson, who is fighting his own battle to retain the speakership as he faces a possible ouster over the ukraine vote from now three members of his caucus, led by marjorie taylor greene. we will have the latest from capitol hill, and here in new york, where a jury is now in place after the first week of donald trump's hush money trial. and trump says he is ready to take the stand. joining me now is our capitol hill correspondent. you had a very busy day,...
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and providing, giving johnson the space you need. if joe biden was front and center, it would've been a lot harder. he has been watching the issue but this is clearly a decision by mike johnson to do what he thought was the right thing to do. a lot of republicans did not vote for best but this was atop a vote. i would be lying if i said i did not think the reluctance to give biden a win was on the mind of a lot of republicans who voted no. they handled it well. there is still a long way to go not just in getting the senate bill passed but putting these resources to work in a way that will bring outcomes that we are hoping for >> do you think this cost johnson his job? >> reporter: it is a real question. i think it would be difficult to get re-elected right now. there is a lot of factors at play. i don't know he is necessary losing the ball. democrats seem like they will protect him if there was a vote to remove him now. down the road, the next congress, we do not know how big a republican majority is. there is a lot of things that co
and providing, giving johnson the space you need. if joe biden was front and center, it would've been a lot harder. he has been watching the issue but this is clearly a decision by mike johnson to do what he thought was the right thing to do. a lot of republicans did not vote for best but this was atop a vote. i would be lying if i said i did not think the reluctance to give biden a win was on the mind of a lot of republicans who voted no. they handled it well. there is still a long way to go...
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for johnson. >> we will see about that. i think it is good time to redirection from president zelenskyy. he posted it on x and it came with in just minutes of the bill passing, which indicates the close nature of his watching what was going on because of all it represented for him and ukraine. he writes, i'm grateful to the united states house of representatives, both parties and speaker like -- mike johnson that keeps history on track. we will never fail as long as america helps to protect it. the vital u.s. aid bill passed today will keep the water from expanding, save thousands and thousands and lives and help both nations to become stronger. peace and security can only be attained through strength but we hope the bills will be supported in the senate and sent to president biden's desk and he ended with, thank you, america. julie, i'm a client conversations i had with two members of congress. we had jason crow who came on and he said just before going into vote on the bill he has spoken vfa's time with some ukrainian sol
for johnson. >> we will see about that. i think it is good time to redirection from president zelenskyy. he posted it on x and it came with in just minutes of the bill passing, which indicates the close nature of his watching what was going on because of all it represented for him and ukraine. he writes, i'm grateful to the united states house of representatives, both parties and speaker like -- mike johnson that keeps history on track. we will never fail as long as america helps to...
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they finally got speaker mike johnson to agree to a process to bring this up and democrats with help of many institutional republicans who are pro-ukraine helped carry it over the line. the interesting thing about this is that these are all unique coalitions. it is a different coalition that passed ukraine aid, some democrats and some republicans. it will be a different coalition that passes israel aid, mostly republicans and some democrats over the objections of many progressives who wanted to slap conditions on how the netanyahu government can use the aid out of concerns for their actions in gaza. the final vote is to come but this looks to be good shape to pass. it mirrors the $95 billion package that president biden wanted. it will go to the senate where there will be support from chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell to get it done. >> just got word that it is done and it has passed, just getting the word from the control booth. we will get the numbers in a moment. you referenced ukraine. 101 republicans, 210 democrats voted in favor. there was one republican from pennsylvania, repr
they finally got speaker mike johnson to agree to a process to bring this up and democrats with help of many institutional republicans who are pro-ukraine helped carry it over the line. the interesting thing about this is that these are all unique coalitions. it is a different coalition that passed ukraine aid, some democrats and some republicans. it will be a different coalition that passes israel aid, mostly republicans and some democrats over the objections of many progressives who wanted to...
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why did speaker mike johnson bring this up now? >> i think the question is why didn't he bring it up sooner and i don't have an answer to that. i know every day we delay in passing the aid, more people die. this is critical. we have a large ukrainian american community in my district. people from the ukrainian army who are back in my district, receiving medical care. i will tell you, it is difficult to speak to them as we were waiting for the aid to pass. a young man who lost both of his legs, both his eyes, talking about how he stood in the breach, facing off russian soldiers knowing if they got past him, they would raze the village behind him, rape women, and kidnap children. he stood there losing so much in his desire to protect the village. now woe know they are being outgunned about ten to one according to the head of u com. this is critical and we have to get this passed today. >> i'm curious how this hits for you personally as a former navy pilot. you are a veteran. when you hear stories like that, experiences like that, how
why did speaker mike johnson bring this up now? >> i think the question is why didn't he bring it up sooner and i don't have an answer to that. i know every day we delay in passing the aid, more people die. this is critical. we have a large ukrainian american community in my district. people from the ukrainian army who are back in my district, receiving medical care. i will tell you, it is difficult to speak to them as we were waiting for the aid to pass. a young man who lost both of his...
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but of course, over all of this is johnson's job. it is his job on the line especially after republicans, three of them had said that they could potentially force a motion to kick him out. i talked to one of them yesterday, congressman thomas massey, who gathered with reporters just a couple minutes ago, as well. he is looking to have speaker johnson resign on his own. a part of that is because of the drama that they faced in the fall when the ousted kevin mccarty. you saw joachim jeffries, ended up getting more votes than a republican speaker candidate did. that was an embarrassing moment for republicans, one that they do not want to repeat. overall here, it is just not clear to see what happens in terms of what marjorie taylor greene is going to do later on the floor today, if she is going to do any glenn beck on the floor to force a vote on this, but johnson, so far, avoiding us as we have been trying to find out him all day long, does not want to face us ahead of these critical votes. both for the first time as i can remember as
but of course, over all of this is johnson's job. it is his job on the line especially after republicans, three of them had said that they could potentially force a motion to kick him out. i talked to one of them yesterday, congressman thomas massey, who gathered with reporters just a couple minutes ago, as well. he is looking to have speaker johnson resign on his own. a part of that is because of the drama that they faced in the fall when the ousted kevin mccarty. you saw joachim jeffries,...
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, mike johnson could only lose two republican votes to lose his speakership. either that our convince democrats to bail him out. julie tsirkin is live on capitol hill. we have to separate this into the bills that are being voted on and then what, if anything, happens to johnson if the bills are passed. >> reporter: well, we are about two hours away from the house beginning to vote to take up the foreign aid bills plus the bill that would force chinese company bytedance to sell tiktok if it doesn't happen within a year. you could see something from the group of three, potentially more as thomas massie is one of those three, just a few feet away from me. he was just talking to reporters, telling us that he thinks johnson's job is in jeopardy. he wants him to resign. as i told youalist hour, we had that conversation yesterday. it is not clear if that will translate to a group of three or more to kick johnson out of the job. that remains to be seen. what massie did say in part was even if johnson survives, even if democrats take him over the line with the foreign
, mike johnson could only lose two republican votes to lose his speakership. either that our convince democrats to bail him out. julie tsirkin is live on capitol hill. we have to separate this into the bills that are being voted on and then what, if anything, happens to johnson if the bills are passed. >> reporter: well, we are about two hours away from the house beginning to vote to take up the foreign aid bills plus the bill that would force chinese company bytedance to sell tiktok if...
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now, if all democrats also vote against johnson, as they typically do in a speaker vote, then mike johnson can only lose two republican votes to save his job. either that or convince at least a couple of democrats to bail him out. joining me is julie live from capitol hill. this is a nailbiter on capitol hill because, he could go smoothly and we could have the passage of four important bills, or could derail the republicans in the house and the career of mike johnson as speaker. >> reporter: or both can happen, they could pass these bills and invest them to the senate where they are excited to take these pieces of legislation up, specifically to fund ukraine, these bills are similar to what the senate passed in february. leadership over there are satisfied with the construction of these four bills in the house. let's say they clear it, which we expect them to, yesterday, a resounding bipartisan vote, more democrats voted in favor of these bills that republicans did. all in all, we do expect this to pass in the house in the next 3.5 hours. the next problem is for mike johnson and his job i
now, if all democrats also vote against johnson, as they typically do in a speaker vote, then mike johnson can only lose two republican votes to save his job. either that or convince at least a couple of democrats to bail him out. joining me is julie live from capitol hill. this is a nailbiter on capitol hill because, he could go smoothly and we could have the passage of four important bills, or could derail the republicans in the house and the career of mike johnson as speaker. >>...
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house speaker mike johnson pack for support of the aid package may put his job at jeopardy. now that at least three republican members have announced their support for a motion to vacate the chair and will almost certainly need democratic members to bail them out. joining us now is democratic congressman jim clyburn of south carolina. he is also a biden/harris campaign cochair. welcome. good to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> good seeing you. >> you actually voted against advancing the foreign aid bills yesterday. why did you do that and how are you going to vote on the final passage of these bills? >> i voted against the rule. when you have been the house majority and voted against rules. there are couple of things in their that i particularly don't like. the fact that we are treating this aid to ukraine as forgivable. i think we need to stand up for our allies. and maybe not a member of nato bit trying to be a member of nato for a long time. and nato members are supporting ukraine. and supporting nato members. a couple of things in that rule that irritate me a litt
house speaker mike johnson pack for support of the aid package may put his job at jeopardy. now that at least three republican members have announced their support for a motion to vacate the chair and will almost certainly need democratic members to bail them out. joining us now is democratic congressman jim clyburn of south carolina. he is also a biden/harris campaign cochair. welcome. good to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> good seeing you. >> you actually voted...
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what it means for speaker johnson patients gaveled back home. and new details on the intense situation in the middle east. israel patients latest strike against iran. get your coffee and settle in. welcome to "the weekend." . >>> a critical the on capitol hill as congress steps up for our allies overseas. in the next hour, debate is set to begin in the house on a long- delayed foreign aid package. separate bills this afternoon to support ukraine, israel and taiwan. the package also includes humanitarian relief for gaza. to get these bills across the finish line, speaker mike johnson must rely on democrats. and fact, might also need the support of democrats to keep his job. three gop house numbers are pushing a motion to vacate which would force a vote on removing johnson as speaker. joining us now, congresswoman pramila jayapal, chair of the congressional caucus. >> good morning. >> did you expect to be here this saturday? >> i didn't. i had plans but here a.m. >> how you think the vote will play out today? >> how do you think it will pass and h
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which way johnson will go on the war. but we now know. what was dick's mood then that you reflected on, having looked at everything in the boxes? his mood toward lyndon johnson and the increased escalation in vietnam? >> one of the things that happen for dick and me is that i was a jeh johnson loyalist. i ended up working for him in the last days of his white house and helped him on his memoirs. while i have been antiwar activist i had such great respect for what he did domestically. immigration reform, everything. dick was a kennedy loyalist. it was a fault line between the two. after the were escalated he was sent to johnson. he loved him so much, he was involved in doing the selma speech right after bloody sunday. it was dick's proudest moment in public life. that speech. after that speech was over where johnson went right after voting rights and talked about the idea of what america stood for and how we have the freedom writers and the people marching were the real heroes, they had made this happen. he said god, how i
which way johnson will go on the war. but we now know. what was dick's mood then that you reflected on, having looked at everything in the boxes? his mood toward lyndon johnson and the increased escalation in vietnam? >> one of the things that happen for dick and me is that i was a jeh johnson loyalist. i ended up working for him in the last days of his white house and helped him on his memoirs. while i have been antiwar activist i had such great respect for what he did domestically....
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johnson said that that is critically important. for now back to dateline. >>> welcome back to dateline. i'm craig melvin. >>> mischele lewis felt hail over heals in love with alive. fianci william allen jordan claim to be a british spy but in reality was a convicted bigamist and fraud. she was not alone. jordan at more than a dozen children with several different women around the world. but mischele was determined to be his last victim and hatched a daring plan to stop jordan once and for all. here again is dennis murphy with the mystery man. >> reporter: msnbc.com head spinning like the dry cycle on a washer and too much to take in. according to the woman, mary, and scotland, the woman engaged to mary was a rare devious career criminal and complete fraud. >> he was a phantom and does not even exist. you don't know who this person, this liam allen is. >> everything was a lie. >> did you feel like the biggest fool ever born? >> i could not believe i fell for this. >> mary warned you about that, didn't she question mark >> i said i f
johnson said that that is critically important. for now back to dateline. >>> welcome back to dateline. i'm craig melvin. >>> mischele lewis felt hail over heals in love with alive. fianci william allen jordan claim to be a british spy but in reality was a convicted bigamist and fraud. she was not alone. jordan at more than a dozen children with several different women around the world. but mischele was determined to be his last victim and hatched a daring plan to stop jordan...
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more democrats voted for the rule than republicans rescuing speaker mike johnson. the house will vote tomorrow on that ukraine aid that has been stalled for months by what liz cheney called the putin wing of the republican party. our next guest, timothy schneider testified about that on wednesday in the house oversight committee. >> if we follow chinese propaganda we notice that's political warfare themes which has colleagues have said are meant to pass through us have in fact done so first. ukrainians are nazis, a russian theme picked up and repeated on the house floor. second it's all about nato enlargement. third ukraine is corrupt. a russian theme picked up by china and repeated on the house floor and in the senate. 4th, that the democracies can't do anything about ukraine. that it's all pointless. a russian theme repeated by china, picked up in house discussions. 5th we should pay attention to the border and not do anything about ukraine. a russian theme picked up by china repeated in both chambers. 6th, the biden bribe. a russian theme picked up and repeated
more democrats voted for the rule than republicans rescuing speaker mike johnson. the house will vote tomorrow on that ukraine aid that has been stalled for months by what liz cheney called the putin wing of the republican party. our next guest, timothy schneider testified about that on wednesday in the house oversight committee. >> if we follow chinese propaganda we notice that's political warfare themes which has colleagues have said are meant to pass through us have in fact done so...
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look, i don't think i agree with speaker johnson on anything political. but, i will say that he, look, he said two months ago we are going to pass the budget and we had a freak out over with the weather there could be a shutdown. he said we would pass 702, which we did last week in the house. now i think we are going to pass ukraine and israel supplemental and it has all got them. i don't think i agree with anything he thinks politically but he appears to do what he says he's going to do and he's gotten stuff done. yes, of course he's going to be threatened by, i love the way hakeem jeffries put it, quite a group. the absolute most french members of congress. >> talk to me about the logic. some of the logic is, i suppose when the election comes around, democrats could say the business of america needs to be done and we support the business of america being done. on the other hand, micah johnson was, has been, and continues to be an election denier, an ally of donald trump, what is in it for republicans to help him ? >> you mean democrats? >> i'm sorry, ye
look, i don't think i agree with speaker johnson on anything political. but, i will say that he, look, he said two months ago we are going to pass the budget and we had a freak out over with the weather there could be a shutdown. he said we would pass 702, which we did last week in the house. now i think we are going to pass ukraine and israel supplemental and it has all got them. i don't think i agree with anything he thinks politically but he appears to do what he says he's going to do and...
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because the hero of propaganda was mike johnson who is a much more important person. it's not a good sign for them actually. they've had to go down to pick up marjorie taylor greene. >>> some republicans are trying to run from the chaos they helped donald trump create overturning roe v. wade. some republicans promise that they will stop at abortion, they are coming for more of your rights. but some republicans they're saying the quiet part outloud. that's next. order until may 12th for up to 30% off personalized jewelry, fresh styles, original decor - and other things moms actually love. when you need a gift that's as unique as she is... etsy has it. tamra, izzy, and emma... they respond to emails with phone calls... and they don't 'circle back', they're already there. they wear business sneakers and pad their keyboards with something that makes their clickety-clacking... clickety-clackier. but no one loves logistics as much as they do. you need tamra, izzy, and emma. they need a retirement plan. work with principal so we can help you with a retirement and benefits pl
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johnson is privy to be a sensory to our adversaries. hep was a hold out himself. >> yeah, i think it did. i really think it did. and look, i don't think i agree with speaker johnson on anything political. but i will say that he, look he said two months ago we're going to pass the budget and we had a whole freak out whether there could be a shut down. he said we would pass 702 fisa which we did. and i think next is a supplemental. i don't agree with him on anything politically but he appears to do what he promises to do. and i like the way hakim put it. the absolutely most fringy members of congress. >> talk to me about the logic and some of the logic as i suppose as the election comes around, democrats can say the business of america needs to be done and we support the business of america being done. on the other hand, mike johnson was, has been and continues to be an election denier, an ally of donald trumps. what's in it for republicans to help him? >> you know democrats. >> yes, what's in it for democrats. >> for us to be, and in fac
johnson is privy to be a sensory to our adversaries. hep was a hold out himself. >> yeah, i think it did. i really think it did. and look, i don't think i agree with speaker johnson on anything political. but i will say that he, look he said two months ago we're going to pass the budget and we had a whole freak out whether there could be a shut down. he said we would pass 702 fisa which we did. and i think next is a supplemental. i don't agree with him on anything politically but he...
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the second is that republican speaker mike johnson appears to have a sincere ideological belief that aid to ukraine is good. it should pass and he is willing to do things to make that happen. the third is that house democrats did something extraordinary late last night. as the democratic members of the very important and powerful house rules committee voted in tandem with republicans to move the four foreign aid bills, the ukraine bill among them, to the full house. less than 12 hours later the democratic caucus again helped move the bills along, voting with republicans to set up a floor vote on the bills. as the new york times notes, what happened in the rules committee basically never happens at all. the rule for considering a bill is historically a straight party line vote passed with more democrats than republicans. this essentially formalizes something of a coalition government in the house of representatives. a coalition government born of the fact that republicans have shown that between their slim is already, two or three votes in the marjorie taylor green maga caucus, they a
the second is that republican speaker mike johnson appears to have a sincere ideological belief that aid to ukraine is good. it should pass and he is willing to do things to make that happen. the third is that house democrats did something extraordinary late last night. as the democratic members of the very important and powerful house rules committee voted in tandem with republicans to move the four foreign aid bills, the ukraine bill among them, to the full house. less than 12 hours later the...
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. >> johnson has become his reputation, his history, his legacy will be the speaker who got things done with democrats. and unfortunately, that's a fact. >> wow, that's an indictment. >> i don't even recognize the person that i once called a friend. >> that was not a joke. they really do think that bipartisanship is bad. they also think that helping ukraine is so bad that three insurrectionist republicans, representatives marjorie taylor greene, thomas massie, and paul gosar, decided to back a motion to kick fellow election denier mike johnson out of the speakership like they did to kevin mccarthy. the latest hot maga mess left one of their republican colleagues wondering who they're rooting for. >> i guess their reasoning is they want russia to win so badly that they want to oust the speaker over it. that's a strange position to take. and you know, i think -- i think they want to be in the minority, too. that's an obvious reality. >> joining me now is charles blow, columnist for "the new york times" and msnbc political analyst, and lizz winstead, founder and chief creative officer at t
. >> johnson has become his reputation, his history, his legacy will be the speaker who got things done with democrats. and unfortunately, that's a fact. >> wow, that's an indictment. >> i don't even recognize the person that i once called a friend. >> that was not a joke. they really do think that bipartisanship is bad. they also think that helping ukraine is so bad that three insurrectionist republicans, representatives marjorie taylor greene, thomas massie, and paul...
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i know you personally said you would help johnson. do you think many of your other colleagues would. >> i think what you should look at is that democrats and republicans are working together for the american people. this is what the american voter wants. this is what the general election voter wants. this is what independents want. democrats and republicans working together for the american people. maybe it's what primary voter doesn't want. the gerrymandered district doesn't want. we're doing it together to show the world and our allies that we can stand up with them. and we can still be america and still lead the world rather than becoming isolationists and allowing china and russia to fill the void. as far as what happens to mike johnson, i have been consistent, and i think my colleagues are probably there as well. there's just no way we're turning this place over to marjorie taylor greene. right now, the band of brothers is marjorie taylor greene, thomas massey, and go satellite and rada -- gosar, the three little pigs. they would
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so johnson's situation is very difficult. it's tenuous at this point. but the one thing we have to point out, chris, is that he knows that, and he said that he still believes that this foreign aid package, which includes funding for ukraine, was worth putting his job on the line, and that's the position he finds himself in right now. >> i mean, honestly, elise, it kind of seems like if you say, you know, somebody's endangered and the house speaker in one sentence, it's repetitive. i mean, we know that's where we are. but is congressman crenshaw right? is there blame to go around, or is something else at play here? >> i think there's plenty of blame to goat around. they aren't governing right now or making an attempt to govern. we have some people -- this mirrors what happened with senator langford and immigration bill. he put forward real reforms and then republicans tank the reforms, the border reforms. that's what's happening right now. you have some congressional members who are not serious, and they're hi jacking the process, andki then you have oth
so johnson's situation is very difficult. it's tenuous at this point. but the one thing we have to point out, chris, is that he knows that, and he said that he still believes that this foreign aid package, which includes funding for ukraine, was worth putting his job on the line, and that's the position he finds himself in right now. >> i mean, honestly, elise, it kind of seems like if you say, you know, somebody's endangered and the house speaker in one sentence, it's repetitive. i mean,...
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mike johnson very well might know that. i do expect democrats to step in and help support mike johnson, really because this is -- these are critical matters that need to get passed. also, there's very little legislation of consequence between now and the end of the year. i think what hakeem jeffries and democrats largely know is, you can bail him out now. that doesn't mean you have to be in a relationship forever. this can be a short-term relationship until democrats take back the house or until republicans topple mike johnson next january. >> i guess it's speed dating or something on the house floor. charlie sykes, the ukraine aid likely to pass. it could almost be too late given how many losses they have suffered. a lot of people have died in the last six months while, frankly, these people have been screwing around. >> they have been dithering. let's not pass over what an extraordinary this is. you have a temporary break in congressional dysfunction. what you saw on the house floor today was basically a bipartisan coalit
mike johnson very well might know that. i do expect democrats to step in and help support mike johnson, really because this is -- these are critical matters that need to get passed. also, there's very little legislation of consequence between now and the end of the year. i think what hakeem jeffries and democrats largely know is, you can bail him out now. that doesn't mean you have to be in a relationship forever. this can be a short-term relationship until democrats take back the house or...
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appreciate it. >>> up next, more on the fate of speaker johnson. could he lose a gavel over the foreign aid packages? we'll ask our next two guests who worked for three house speakers. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. everyone. baby: liberty. oh! baby: liberty. how many people did you tell? only pay for what you need. jingle: ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ baby: ♪ liberty. ♪ that grimy film on your teeth? dr. g? (♪♪) it's actually the buildup of plaque bacteria which can cause cavities. most toothpastes quit working in minutes. but crest pro-health's antibacterial fluoride protects all day. it stops cavities before they start... crest. i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi i
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far right members threatening speaker johnson's job over this. let's get right over to nbc's ali vitali who's tracking the very latest on capitol hill for us. walk us through what we expect of this vote this morning and after those unusual dynamics overnight. >> reporter: we're expecting it to be bipartisan in fashion, ana. a lot of movement around me here because these are the steps that lawmakers take to go up into the chamber to vote. some of them of course are already on the floor now. if you're going to see and you're looking at the vote tally in the house chamber right now, you're likely to see a lot more republican votes happening than you are to see democrats voting. it might look like that because our understanding is that they might be waiting, the democrats to see how many of them they actually need to join with republicans and help them get this rule over the finish line. this is the last procedural hurdle before house members will be able to actually vote on those four distinct bills that include aid, as you mentioned, to ukraine and
far right members threatening speaker johnson's job over this. let's get right over to nbc's ali vitali who's tracking the very latest on capitol hill for us. walk us through what we expect of this vote this morning and after those unusual dynamics overnight. >> reporter: we're expecting it to be bipartisan in fashion, ana. a lot of movement around me here because these are the steps that lawmakers take to go up into the chamber to vote. some of them of course are already on the floor...
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i've known mike johnson for many years and have had many disagreements with mike johnson in recent years, but this is the mike johnson that i knew a long time ago. this is a mike johnson, a man who had real principles. i was very glad to see it. >> "new york times" columnist david french and "the new yorker"'s susan glasser, thank you, both. david, we were happy to have nancy on the other day, the better half. >> i'm sorry you downgraded to me. i'm sorry you downgraded to me. >> she's amazing. all right. thanks for coming on this morning. >>> let's bring in senior political columnist for "plate politico," jonathan marti his piece, "trump the front-runner? not so fast." what are you seeing playing out, jonathan? >> i think the trump is going to win conventional wisdom got out of hand the last couple months. there's, frankly, some overcompensation from people who aren't trump fans but want to see him. like, they get it. they're in touch with real america, kind of unlike perhaps they weren't in 2016. but this assumption that he is a sure thing kind of doesn't fully factor in that donald tru
i've known mike johnson for many years and have had many disagreements with mike johnson in recent years, but this is the mike johnson that i knew a long time ago. this is a mike johnson, a man who had real principles. i was very glad to see it. >> "new york times" columnist david french and "the new yorker"'s susan glasser, thank you, both. david, we were happy to have nancy on the other day, the better half. >> i'm sorry you downgraded to me. i'm sorry you...
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they do go back to their districts, and they want to be able to say we stood up to johnson. whether they're going to be able to keep doing that and end up to his removal, that doesn't seem to be as clear as it was when mccarthy was in the situation, but it could get there and get there soon and we might see democrats leaning on johnson. >> i think in my view as i was talking to folks yesterday is, cool, maybe you're disappointed in the speaker maybe his role is diminished in your eyes. but who has the right answer? >> that's been the issue before. if they get rid of him, who are some of the replacements? that could just find us in a new situation looking for a new speaker, which no one likes on the hill or outside of washington. >> on the hill or outside of washington, and i'll speak for the press corp. nbc's raf sanchez from tel aviv, thank you. and senior reporter for axios, eugene scott, thank you as well. >>> up next we'll talk about the weight of president biden's influence on israel as the country ignores white house warnings against retaliation. that after overnight s
they do go back to their districts, and they want to be able to say we stood up to johnson. whether they're going to be able to keep doing that and end up to his removal, that doesn't seem to be as clear as it was when mccarthy was in the situation, but it could get there and get there soon and we might see democrats leaning on johnson. >> i think in my view as i was talking to folks yesterday is, cool, maybe you're disappointed in the speaker maybe his role is diminished in your eyes....
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wants obviously be happy if that congress does pass the $60 billion by the end of the week, as speaker johnson is now er promising, that will make a big difference right now. ukrainians are having a hard in time just fighting back because they don't have ammunition. they don't have the basics to fight their war against the russians. they need assistance and the $60 billion, obviously, is a big, big ticket for them. so in that sense, obviously, a war in gaza, a war with iran is prompted, the republicans in ed the house, to finally get going with the security measures. it might not work out best for putin but he is more happy for the united states to be drawn into a middle east war where he thinks that we will therefore not be as focused on his actions in europe. >> general, as peter said, the white house, president biden does have his hands full, what could this escalation mean going forward for the relationship between president biden and prime minister netanyahu? >> obviously, there is a major threat to the region of war unbounded, taking place in the next week or so. so i think you are going
wants obviously be happy if that congress does pass the $60 billion by the end of the week, as speaker johnson is now er promising, that will make a big difference right now. ukrainians are having a hard in time just fighting back because they don't have ammunition. they don't have the basics to fight their war against the russians. they need assistance and the $60 billion, obviously, is a big, big ticket for them. so in that sense, obviously, a war in gaza, a war with iran is prompted, the...
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>> mike johnson is in trouble. right now, the speaker of the house appears to be moving forward with a plan to allow a standalone vote on aid to ukraine, which has made house conservatives furious. some of them are ready to kick mike johnson out of the job the same way they ousted speaker kevin mccarthy six months ago. like mike johnson, he is running out of options to save himself. at the beginning of the date, there were rumblings that johnson might try to change house rules in order to make it harder for conservatives to oust him. that proposal unsurprisingly outraged conservatives. cnn reports that johnson was essentially pinned against the back wall of the house floor with members on all sides of him, with the speaker constantly pivoting his head as he responded to members speaking to him. sounds hectic. the congressional bullying circle, if it wasn't sufficient to get johnson in line, they put together a team to monitor the house floor to make sure johnson or his allies introduced old measure to change the ru
>> mike johnson is in trouble. right now, the speaker of the house appears to be moving forward with a plan to allow a standalone vote on aid to ukraine, which has made house conservatives furious. some of them are ready to kick mike johnson out of the job the same way they ousted speaker kevin mccarthy six months ago. like mike johnson, he is running out of options to save himself. at the beginning of the date, there were rumblings that johnson might try to change house rules in order to...
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. >> mike johnson wishes for an alternate caucus. tell me about the sandoval hearing. >> sandoval hearing is an opportunity for the defendant to understand what the scope of cross-examination is going to be before he can make an informed decision whether or not he is going to testify. the d.a.'s office -- again, he says he wants to so the d.a.'s office served a notice that lays out 13 categories of misconduct. many are things that couldn't be charged as crimes, including like the trump foundation settle many when they were accused of wrongfully using charitable dollars for political purposes. they also include sanctions awarded against trump when he sued the dnc and hillary clinton in florida. but they are misconduct through which he can be impeached. and merchan is going to call balls and strikes what is within or not acceptable cross. we will see see what the d.a. plans to confront trump with. >> and it is a tool you will use as a defense attorney to prep your client in terms of coming up with a reasonable answer. >> he is not goin
. >> mike johnson wishes for an alternate caucus. tell me about the sandoval hearing. >> sandoval hearing is an opportunity for the defendant to understand what the scope of cross-examination is going to be before he can make an informed decision whether or not he is going to testify. the d.a.'s office -- again, he says he wants to so the d.a.'s office served a notice that lays out 13 categories of misconduct. many are things that couldn't be charged as crimes, including like the...
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i'm jason johnson in for joy reid. we begin tonight with a breakthrough moment in the first criminal trial of donald trump. hours ago, new york judge juan merchan declaring that, quote, we have our jury. that's right. after three days, 12 people, seven men and five women, have been selected and sworn in to decide for the first time in american history whether a former president is guilty of a crime. an alternate has also been sworn in. five more are yet to be chosen, but the judge remains hopeful that opening statements can begin as soon as monday. it is a major development in the hush money election interference trial. but it didn't come without some drama this morning as two jurors already seated were abruptly dismissed. excused after questions were raised about the accuracy of some of the answers he had given the court. the other was dismissed after telling the judge she had concerns about her identity becoming public. the juror said friends and family have already inquired about whether she's a juror. and given the
i'm jason johnson in for joy reid. we begin tonight with a breakthrough moment in the first criminal trial of donald trump. hours ago, new york judge juan merchan declaring that, quote, we have our jury. that's right. after three days, 12 people, seven men and five women, have been selected and sworn in to decide for the first time in american history whether a former president is guilty of a crime. an alternate has also been sworn in. five more are yet to be chosen, but the judge remains...
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here's marjorie taylor greene earlier saying she defending her move to oust speaker johnson. watch. >> the republican speaker is hinging his entire ability to stay speaker on sending $60 billion to ukraine. i can't think of a worse betrayal to happen in united states history, and here's what's really ironic, the constitutional attorney, mike johnson, is literally betrag the american people in order to keep his grip of power on the speakership. >> reporter: there was confusion over what happened directly. after talking to lawmakers they said a lot of them did not want to go forward with the motion to vacate, even though they were frustrated and increasingly disappointed with speaker johnson's leadership on this issue. a hot of moderate republicans and democrats vowing to prop johnson up if he puts aid to ukraine on the floor. we don't know if that is going to happen for sure. >> to understand fully where we are right now, we have conservative republicans who want an israel aid only bill, and that means democrats would have to get behind for this aid package to pass. right? doe
here's marjorie taylor greene earlier saying she defending her move to oust speaker johnson. watch. >> the republican speaker is hinging his entire ability to stay speaker on sending $60 billion to ukraine. i can't think of a worse betrayal to happen in united states history, and here's what's really ironic, the constitutional attorney, mike johnson, is literally betrag the american people in order to keep his grip of power on the speakership. >> reporter: there was confusion over...
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and for speaker johnson, you're going to have a vote on ukraine. go with it, man. if you win, great. if you don't win, great. life's short, do the right thing. >> former governor john kasich, and carol leonnig, two of my favorite guests. thank you so much, i appreciate you coming on the show. >>> we want to go back to jury selection because it's back underway in donald trump's hush money case. nbc's vaughn hillyard is outside the courthouse for us, and vaughn, there is some question about what exactly was going on when they came back into the room. so tell us what's happening. >> reporter: right. we've got about two hours left of court today here on this thursday, chris, and i can tell you right now, there's a crop of 18 potential jurors, if i may, to simplify this here. essentially they are on the second round of being potentially cut. the first round was making it through the 42 question questionnaire. now this is the voir dire process. this is where right now the district attorney's prosecutor has 30 minutes to ask all 18 of these individuals together. they can
and for speaker johnson, you're going to have a vote on ukraine. go with it, man. if you win, great. if you don't win, great. life's short, do the right thing. >> former governor john kasich, and carol leonnig, two of my favorite guests. thank you so much, i appreciate you coming on the show. >>> we want to go back to jury selection because it's back underway in donald trump's hush money case. nbc's vaughn hillyard is outside the courthouse for us, and vaughn, there is some...
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. >> and the nasty split between speaker mike johnson and house conservatives is somehow getting worse with personal insults and more threats to remove him from his post over foreign aid. we'll take you to capitol hill in just a minute. >>> but we start with donald trump's hush money trial where the proceedings are unfolding more like a tv legal drama than your run-of-the-mill jury selection. two of the jurors who had already been selected for the trial are now out. juror number two, a female nurse, said she was worried she couldn't stay anonymous or stay fair after details about her identity were made public. juror number four, an i.t. consultant apparently hid details about previous brushes with the law. all of this burning time and moving selection backwards, with just five jurors now in place and 13 more still needed. so far today, more than half of the initial pool of 96 prospective jurors have been dismissed after saying they can't be fair. that includes one woman who spoke to my colleague yasmin vossoughian who's not sure it's even possible to pick an impartial jury. >> i'm not
. >> and the nasty split between speaker mike johnson and house conservatives is somehow getting worse with personal insults and more threats to remove him from his post over foreign aid. we'll take you to capitol hill in just a minute. >>> but we start with donald trump's hush money trial where the proceedings are unfolding more like a tv legal drama than your run-of-the-mill jury selection. two of the jurors who had already been selected for the trial are now out. juror number...
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. >>> a major flip from mike johnson. he is ignoing threats to oust him and saying that votes to pass aid to ukraine and israel are critical. >> this is not a game. it's not a joke. we can't play politics with this. we have to do the right thing. i'm going to allow an opportunity for everyone to vote their conscience on this. >> i will talk to mike turner this hour. >>> ukraine's prime minister will be here to talk about the dire situation as they wait for u.s. weapons. ♪♪ >>> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. jury selection in donald trump's first criminal trial is forging ahead despite this morning's setback. no new jurors have been selected today. one who was seated tuesday has been removed. the nurse raising concerns after friends and colleagues questioned her identity as a juror and whether she could be identified by details that have been disclosed in court. that led the judge to redact all employment information, previous employment information from official transcripts and instruct the med
. >>> a major flip from mike johnson. he is ignoing threats to oust him and saying that votes to pass aid to ukraine and israel are critical. >> this is not a game. it's not a joke. we can't play politics with this. we have to do the right thing. i'm going to allow an opportunity for everyone to vote their conscience on this. >> i will talk to mike turner this hour. >>> ukraine's prime minister will be here to talk about the dire situation as they wait for u.s....
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and with mike johnson, the future of his job on the line, this morning as we have been hearing johnson downplayed he's considering changing the rules that just one member can call for a motion to vacate him as speaker. joining us now, democratic congressman adam schiff from california. a member of the house judiciary committee. it has been a while since we spoke. i'm very grateful for your time. so, let's go a little bit over the politics of it. to what extent will democrats work with speaker johnson to pass aid to key u.s. allies, ukraine, israel? >> well, thus far, i think we have been keeping our powder dry to see whether the speaker delivers what he says he is going to deliver and that is clean opportunities to vote on ukraine, on israel funding, on humanitarian assistance, on aid for taiwan. if he follows through with that and does the right thing, i think many members of our caucus are going to not want to see him punished for doing that. at the end of the day, democrats want to get things done, we want a house that can be governed, if we're not in the majority, we need at least
and with mike johnson, the future of his job on the line, this morning as we have been hearing johnson downplayed he's considering changing the rules that just one member can call for a motion to vacate him as speaker. joining us now, democratic congressman adam schiff from california. a member of the house judiciary committee. it has been a while since we spoke. i'm very grateful for your time. so, let's go a little bit over the politics of it. to what extent will democrats work with speaker...
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ali, johnson is trying to push these aid bills through. sounds like he's willing to lose his job over it. what was the tipping point? >> reporter: this is clearly a moment where we're seeing him change the strategy and forge ahead on an issue that many within the republican conference have wanted to see action on, not just when it comes to ukraine, but also when it comes to israel. the fact that they're doing basically the version of the senate supplemental but it's all different in terms of you're taking a vote on each individual piece of aid, that's the key difference here along with some other tweaks and changes that were made by the conference before this bill text was actually released. but look, this could be the thing that ends up losing johnson his job or at least putting it up for question because we see people like congresswoman marjorie taylor greene saying not only does she not like the strategy she's em employing here, it might be enough for her and other members to come together, trigger that one person, motion to vacate. tha
ali, johnson is trying to push these aid bills through. sounds like he's willing to lose his job over it. what was the tipping point? >> reporter: this is clearly a moment where we're seeing him change the strategy and forge ahead on an issue that many within the republican conference have wanted to see action on, not just when it comes to ukraine, but also when it comes to israel. the fact that they're doing basically the version of the senate supplemental but it's all different in terms...
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that's why when we talk about accepting, mike johnson today, thank you, mike johnson, for standing right. i'm not going to sit here and go, yeah, but you did this, this, this, this, this. that time will come if it needs to come. right now, we found an issue that we can agree on, so we lift that person up. we look for opportunities to come together. like you said, we form a coalition of the decent, of people who want this democracy to thrive, people who, once again, want leaders that are respectful of each other, that can talk to each other, that can get things done, because at the bottom of it all, they are in a coalition of the decent. >> that's absolutely right, joe. there's this wonderful line that i got out of james baldwin's work as i was studying with him. you know, he's talking about, you know, how hatred gums us up. how we retreat into our silos. he says, you know, salvation is not found in that tricky magic, where you need the quote, unquote, illegal human being. who is illegal? or if you need the n-words or f-words, or to put women back in their place, as it were, quote, unquot
that's why when we talk about accepting, mike johnson today, thank you, mike johnson, for standing right. i'm not going to sit here and go, yeah, but you did this, this, this, this, this. that time will come if it needs to come. right now, we found an issue that we can agree on, so we lift that person up. we look for opportunities to come together. like you said, we form a coalition of the decent, of people who want this democracy to thrive, people who, once again, want leaders that are...
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the fight heads to the rules committee where johnson needs republicans to support the bills. democrats for their part appear inclined to approve the package that after president biden gave his full support yesterday. and despite all the threats from his colleagues, johnson is pushing forward. >> going to stand for freedom and make sure that vladimir putin doesn't march through europe. we're an exceptional nation. we're the greatest nation on the planet and we have to act like it. and we have to project to putin and xi and iran and north korea and anyone else we'll defend freedom. it doesn't mean boots on the ground. we're not the world's policeman but we have to do the right thing. >> are you going to have to rely on democrats to pass the rule in order to bring these bills to the floor? and also the legislation itself? >> well, i hope not. i hope that our republican colleagues will stand together, stick together on this. i think we understand, look, i'm a child of the '80s. i understand the concept of maintaining peace through strengthen. that's one of our guiding principles.
the fight heads to the rules committee where johnson needs republicans to support the bills. democrats for their part appear inclined to approve the package that after president biden gave his full support yesterday. and despite all the threats from his colleagues, johnson is pushing forward. >> going to stand for freedom and make sure that vladimir putin doesn't march through europe. we're an exceptional nation. we're the greatest nation on the planet and we have to act like it. and we...
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johnson had resisted doing that for months, but this week he finally relented. here he was explaining the reality of what he is facing just a few hours ago. >> i'm operating with the smallest margin in u.s. history. i have a one-vote margin. listen, we're not going to get 100% of what we want right now because we have the smallest majority in history and we only have the majority in one chamber. >> despite what speaker johnson understands here, far-right members of his party are now saying they'll vote to oust johnson over bringing up ukraine aid. that's how much the far-right does not want to help ukraine combat russia's war of aggression. and this is not just a problem for the republican party. it is a problem for ukraine and america and the rest of the world. because ukraine and the vote on ukraine funding has become a leverage point for russia. "the washington post" had some explosive reporting today on newly revealed documents from inside vladimir putin's government, documents which show how russia is seeking to subvert western support for ukraine and disru
johnson had resisted doing that for months, but this week he finally relented. here he was explaining the reality of what he is facing just a few hours ago. >> i'm operating with the smallest margin in u.s. history. i have a one-vote margin. listen, we're not going to get 100% of what we want right now because we have the smallest majority in history and we only have the majority in one chamber. >> despite what speaker johnson understands here, far-right members of his party are now...
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a maga revolt and are democrats going to be the one to save mike johnson's job? a dysfunctional day in the u.s. capitol. that's next. the u.s. capitol. that's next. >>> every day the house is in session is a day of barely contained chaos. we had the republicans delivering their farcical impeachment of alejandro mayorkas to the senate and the senate held its impeachment trial today. that procession happened yesterday. today was the trial. despite every attempt by republicans to delay the inevitable it took all of three hours for the senate majority to dismiss them as unconstitutional. ending the proceeding. watching all of this. maybe you think of a parent watching, a young child grabs her phone and pretends to be on a work call doing their six- year-old impersonation of the meeting. the impeachment of mayorkas had most of the formal elements with zero of the understanding of the underlien content. during a week that donald trump's trial is starting. and it is falling apart after taking control just a little over a year ago. congressman robert garcia serves on the
a maga revolt and are democrats going to be the one to save mike johnson's job? a dysfunctional day in the u.s. capitol. that's next. the u.s. capitol. that's next. >>> every day the house is in session is a day of barely contained chaos. we had the republicans delivering their farcical impeachment of alejandro mayorkas to the senate and the senate held its impeachment trial today. that procession happened yesterday. today was the trial. despite every attempt by republicans to delay...
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at first there was a thought that speaker johnson, that republicans would not have the ear that they had for kevin mccarthy, it now sounds like maybe there will be enough republicans to possibly threaten his job. i have been talking to democrats on the help wondering whether or not they will help save him and a number of them told me i will vote for jeffries , but there is a sense now that he may get a couple of democrats siding with him to say thank you for putting up this aid bill but it is a interesting moment where we now have republicans having deja vu you have another republican speaker saying i want to put forward things that as a caucus we should get behind and he is not able to get the number of republicans he needs to save his job so it will be interesting, especially the way he is talking about it. johnson is saying he is not worried about the motion to vacate when you have somebody like marjorie taylor greene and other republicans saying we may use this against you. if they do for some reason get rid of speaker johnson, who else will want the job given the fact that they
at first there was a thought that speaker johnson, that republicans would not have the ear that they had for kevin mccarthy, it now sounds like maybe there will be enough republicans to possibly threaten his job. i have been talking to democrats on the help wondering whether or not they will help save him and a number of them told me i will vote for jeffries , but there is a sense now that he may get a couple of democrats siding with him to say thank you for putting up this aid bill but it is a...
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i applaud speaker johnson for doing the right thing in the face of a lot of opposition from the party of vladimir putin which is the majority for the house republican party. >> thank you very much for joining our discussion. >>> coming up, how trumps favorite republican candidate lake is no defending the 1864 law that bans abortion in arizona. her solution did not exist in 1864, the automobile. that is next. that is next. the places we cheer. trust. hang out. and check in. they all choose the advanced network solutions and round the clock partnership from comcast business. powering more businesses than anyone. powering possibilities. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt nergy ino weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪♪) have you ever considered getting a walk-in tub? well, look no further! and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. safe step's best offer, just got better! now, when you purchase your brand new safe
i applaud speaker johnson for doing the right thing in the face of a lot of opposition from the party of vladimir putin which is the majority for the house republican party. >> thank you very much for joining our discussion. >>> coming up, how trumps favorite republican candidate lake is no defending the 1864 law that bans abortion in arizona. her solution did not exist in 1864, the automobile. that is next. that is next. the places we cheer. trust. hang out. and check in. they...
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house republicans, on the brink of ousting speaker mike johnson. yet again. not even six months after they booted mccarthy. what is your take on this chaos? >> these guys are ungovernable. so keep asking me. i have the same answer. they can't govern themselves. they could barely name a post office after donald trump at this point. so that's what's happening at the house. the interesting i think today, and i don't want to be lucy with the football. i'll believe it when i see it. but mike johnson actually sounded like a responsible speaker of the house a couple of hours when he was speaking in front of the press and doing a few interviews. now it is six months too late. but, if there really is a change of tune with democrats' help, he gets this through. and we are able to help ukraine. and that costs him the speakership. that would have been a worthwhile move. i wish he would have done it earlier. there is that much he can do. the other thing he can do and not do anything policy wise and frankly not help the party. >> i think lucy gets a bad rap. she was always
house republicans, on the brink of ousting speaker mike johnson. yet again. not even six months after they booted mccarthy. what is your take on this chaos? >> these guys are ungovernable. so keep asking me. i have the same answer. they can't govern themselves. they could barely name a post office after donald trump at this point. so that's what's happening at the house. the interesting i think today, and i don't want to be lucy with the football. i'll believe it when i see it. but mike...
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i frankly applaud speaker johnson for doing the right thing in the face of a lot of opposition from the party of putin, which is the majority now of the house republican party. >> thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. >>> coming up, how trump's favorite republican senate candidate is now defending the 1864 law that bans abortions in arizona, her solution for arizona women didn't exist in 1864. the automobile. that's next. that's next. amazing. on my bed... my couch... my jacket or jeans. in between washes. even shoes. febreze doesn't cover up odors with scent, but fights them and freshens! over one thousand uses. febreze fabric refresher. that grimy film on your teeth? dr. g? (♪♪) it's actually the buildup of plaque bacteria which can cause cavities. most toothpastes quit working in minutes. but crest pro-health's antibacterial fluoride protects all day. it stops cavities before they start... crest. a perfect day for a family outing! shingles doesn't care. but shingrix protects. only shingrix is proven over 90% effective. shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shing
i frankly applaud speaker johnson for doing the right thing in the face of a lot of opposition from the party of putin, which is the majority now of the house republican party. >> thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. >>> coming up, how trump's favorite republican senate candidate is now defending the 1864 law that bans abortions in arizona, her solution for arizona women didn't exist in 1864. the automobile. that's next. that's next. amazing. on my bed... my...
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johnson's got these four bills lined up. i think the bill text is out, people are reading them. essentially, they end up being quite similar to the senate package, with a little bit of a change about some of the aid to ukraine can maybe be revocable and repaid, whatever. the key thing is, the rule is going to fail to put the floor votes up on a partyline vote. so what is, what is your understanding of what democrats are being instructed here? are there active negotiations with johnson, and are democrats going to be the ones to vote for the rule, or vote to keep him in the chair, or basically bail him out? >> well, look, i think first, mike johnson made this mess himself, and there is no scenario where i personally, in any scenario, whatever vote to keep the speaker in office. i know that some democrats, we have different opinions. that's absolutely not mine. and so i will not be providing a vote. i think most progressives also agree with that position. he has made this mess. he's one of the most extreme speakers we've ever had, and in no way would i ever support him or vote to k
johnson's got these four bills lined up. i think the bill text is out, people are reading them. essentially, they end up being quite similar to the senate package, with a little bit of a change about some of the aid to ukraine can maybe be revocable and repaid, whatever. the key thing is, the rule is going to fail to put the floor votes up on a partyline vote. so what is, what is your understanding of what democrats are being instructed here? are there active negotiations with johnson, and are...
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speaker johnson, will not put it on the floor. he is now trying to break it up into four mini bills that are essentially the same what's in the senate package, broken up into pieces. the ukraine piece, a piece for taiwan, a piece for israel with included a big piece of humanitarian aid in that one and then this other bill he is now proposing which essentially includes this draconian former hr 2 language which guts people's ability to claim asylum. it restarts construction of this border wall. i don't know how you build a border wall in the rio grande river. it rolls back protections for migrant children. e verify -- is all this going to pass? will pieces of it pass? what do you think? >> well, that immigration component is obviously a poison pill. and an effort by the ultra maga right to bring the whole thing crashing down. from the beginning, donald trump has made it clear he doesn't want any kind of immigration or border solution. he wants a border crisis. and they know that every -- that most of what's in that h.r. 2 is indiges
speaker johnson, will not put it on the floor. he is now trying to break it up into four mini bills that are essentially the same what's in the senate package, broken up into pieces. the ukraine piece, a piece for taiwan, a piece for israel with included a big piece of humanitarian aid in that one and then this other bill he is now proposing which essentially includes this draconian former hr 2 language which guts people's ability to claim asylum. it restarts construction of this border wall. i...
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that donald trump, mike johnson, none of them will be blamed. that's why we have seen today just three great examples of just chaos. the trump trial, this drama with the speaker and the mayorkas trial or lack of impeachment trial that we had over there in the senate. i mean, all of those stories are linked by one thing, republican belief in chaos as a governing philosophy. >> yeah. i would push you a little on that. i think it sounds right that they think if you can blame the other side, that helps, but mcconnell and others have said, you know, you go too far like that, like a shutdown, usually it's not the democratic white house that is blamed. mcconnell himself said that recently. >> right. >> just to pick an analogy where government fails. here is republican representative armstrong today. take a listen. >> by throwing ourselves into chaos without having any kind of real succession plan. i mean, just to be honest, i don't know who would want the job if this succeeds at this point. >> so that's kind of talking about the idea that the most powe
that donald trump, mike johnson, none of them will be blamed. that's why we have seen today just three great examples of just chaos. the trump trial, this drama with the speaker and the mayorkas trial or lack of impeachment trial that we had over there in the senate. i mean, all of those stories are linked by one thing, republican belief in chaos as a governing philosophy. >> yeah. i would push you a little on that. i think it sounds right that they think if you can blame the other side,...